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Tim Miller
Hey, everybody. Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with my buddy Will Sommer, author of the False Flag newsletter. And there's stuff happening in Candace world that I decided to talk about. Okay. Will's been posting about this on X. Candace Owens has a new miniseries docu series, I guess coming. Not docu series. Let me correct myself with MOCU series Machu mystery coming out. Will, why don't you just tell us what it's all about?
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Will Sommer
Yeah, sure. So, Candace Owens, you know, ever since Charlie Kirk's assassination, she's been spreading all these conspiracy theories. She's obviously a very popular YouTuber, Charlie Kirk's friend. And now she seems to be packaging all of several months of often contradictory or debunked conspiracy theories as a specific attack on Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow. She's done these in the past about Brigitte Macron being a trans, you know, international criminal. And now she's coming for Erica, and it's called Bride of Charlie, which I guess it's a play of on Bride of Chucky.
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Tim Miller
Bride of Charlie. I thought it was Fatal Attraction.
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Will Sommer
So the working title was Fatal Attraction.
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Tim Miller
Okay.
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Will Sommer
And this Candace, she's taken some time off to work on this. Obviously it's a. It's a great art work. I'm sure it took a while, but she said, you know, current working Title is. Is Fatal Attraction. Now she's emerged from the studio from her monastic concentration, produced Bride of Charlie.
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Tim Miller
Bride of Charlie. Wow. She had to take a break from covering the news to really. To focus on this. It does start to raise some questions for me, such as I do sort of wonder. I mean, I am confident and convinced that Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk. A big part of my confidence is that regular humans. Prosecutors have indicted him and they're gonna present evidence to other humans in a jury. That said, at this point, Candace Owens is spending so much time focused on this. It does raise some questions for me. And I do. I did. I think that authorities catch Patel after he's done shotgunning beers in Milan. I just might want to just ask her just like a run of show. You just make sure she hasn't. She didn't have any contacts with Tyler because it does feel like the behavior of someone who's trying to throw people off the scent of something else. But you played. So I guess there's a trailer, a teaser trailer.
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Will Sommer
Yes. Yeah, there's a teaser trailer. And we can play that.
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Tim Miller
Yeah, I'd like to watch that. Let's do it. President Trump says that Kirk has died after he was shot from a nearby building after being shot at Utah Valley University.
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The great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
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The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.
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Tim Miller
Can we pause it here? At this point, it's like, okay, you know, this is a MAGA influencer doing a Charlie Kirk tribute documentary of some kind. Probably wouldn't be my cup of tea, but nothing abnormal there so far. The first 20 seconds. It takes a very interesting turn here. Not quite yet. You know, you'll start to get the sense where it's going, and then things really go off the rails. So let's, let's. Let's continue to watch the. What was it? Life of Charlie.
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Will Sommer
Oh, Bride of Charlie.
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Tim Miller
Bride of Charlie. Bride of Charlie. The Candace. That young man.
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I forgive him.
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Tim Miller
Take your time.
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Erica Kirk has been named the new CEO of Turning Point usa. My husband's dead. Like, I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead. It's weird to say excited. Describes her husband's funeral as the event of the century. Merch hats. We have 50,000 plus hat borders.
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Will Sommer
Nobody knows why she's out there in a glittering pantsuit in a recreated tent that her husband tragically was murdered in, throwing merch out.
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Everyone grieves differently. So if someone's acting weird, don't read into that.
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Tim Miller
Zionists. Oh, whoa. Okay, so right there, so we start, we're watching, you kind of see where she's going. She's trying to say that Erica's been acting inappropriately. That is, again, that's not a critique I've leveled. I think if I lost my spouse, I don't exactly know what I would do. So it's not one I've leveled. There have been good. Tim Dillon is one of the people on there. I don't think he's, you know, like there are some good faith people that have, you know, expressed that there's something weird with the, with Erica's behavior without suggesting she was involved. But things seem to are about to go a little bit deeper, I guess. Well, before we watch, is there any, anything you want to preview for people?
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Will Sommer
Well, you know, I do think it's interesting here that they just kind of, there's this quick pivot to Zionist, you know, kind of flashes. And now. So we're at this point where basically like we're about to get all of Candace's bag of conspiracy theories and they're all going to be jammed in, including the Erica inappropriate conversation with a 15 year old one which we can maybe dig into because that's kind of the freshest one. One thing I should add, this video she's playing of, you know, Erica, what appears to be on a zoom. These are leaked videos that Candace got of Turning Point conference calls. And you know, I've written about how Turning Point has kind of been purging employees apparently because they're freaking out about all these leaks to Candace.
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Tim Miller
Got it. That is, it's pretty alarming that somebody inside Turning Point that are sending Candace videos given what Candace is putting forth here. Okay, so we're through. The Erica might have did it part or you know, maybe not completely through it, but we have, we've had the Erica might be involved section. Now we go to the rest of the conspiracies, beginning of course with the Zionists. Let's watch Zionists. The Prime Minister of Israel all lied
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through their teeth about Charlie Kirk.
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Tim Miller
Her operation was in Constanta, the epicenter of Romania's trafficking scandal. We heard conversations to have with a 15 year old. I'm going to touch your butt.
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$8.6 million to their own shell company.
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What is going on? We have nothing to hide. My aunt used to tell me, never do something that you don't want on the front page of a newspaper.
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Tim Miller
Bride of Charlie, I've got some questions and firstly, one thing this teaches you is that you could put a compilation of clips of anybody together with a bump, bump, bump, bump at the end and kind of make it seem like maybe they were at the center of a deep conspiracy theory. That's one thing we've learned from this. I want you to kind of run through the various things that she showed there. That baby, in her deluded mind, implicate Erica. But I'm most curious about Romania. I was watching that the first time and it's like, okay, the Zionists, I hear we're always going to blame the Jews for everything. Maybe it was the Jews that killed Charlie. But the turn from Israel to Romania caught me a little off guard.
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Will Sommer
Yeah, so the Romania thing is, and I'm sure the Candace fans, the standases, will disagree with my summary here, but essentially it's that Erica Kirk did like missionary or charity work in Romania and was affiliated with this organization. I think she was a very low level volunteer for an organization that I think a California based church that turned out to have some like, sexual abuse scandal in Romania, but there's really no
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Tim Miller
sexual abuse scandals in various churches. I guess I would just.
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Will Sommer
Exactly. And you know, by, by the standards of like Pizzagate logic, I mean, that's like, oh my gosh, you know, we've caught Erica doing sex trafficking, but I mean, I think in reality, like, there's really no evidence she was, you know, in even, maybe even in the country when it happened or anything like that.
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Tim Miller
Got it. Okay. So potentially implicated here, Israel, France, legionnaires and Romania could all be involved in the plot with Erica where Erica is, I guess, some kind of an asset for one of them doing some of their bidding against Charlie. Is that the theory?
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Will Sommer
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I think what they're all, what the argument is shaping up to be is that Erika was like almost like Charlie's handler. You know, her mother has defense industry connections. So there's this idea that Erica is like a you, deep state operative who was, you know, secretly controlling Charlie. And then when the moment came that he had to be taken out, she said, okay, you know, I, I, I sign off, I don't really care.
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Tim Miller
Yeah. Are there any examples of that happening in real life?
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Will Sommer
You know, the situation we're all familiar with?
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Tim Miller
Yeah. You know, you got a handler, you know, a woman who was not involved in politics at all, really, who marries somebody who'd been involved in politics and started an organization, but she was the handler. All part of a, I don't know, you know, 18 dimensional chess efforts to prevent Charlie from speaking the Truth about Brigitte Macron's penis and, you know, Israel, I guess. Okay, so what, who's the 15 year old girl? How does she get involved?
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Will Sommer
The 15 year old? This is kind of the latest Candace thing is basically there was this. When Erica was 25 or so, there was this 15 year old she met in Phoenix, this girl. I think there was like, it was like the 15 year old's family was renting a house from Erica's relative. So there was some like, kind of tenuous connection there that they would know each other in Arizona and then the 15 year old at the time would post like, look at this silly text message Erica Kirk sent me. She kind of blew up her spot here. I will say that. And people are interpreting these as like really sexual text messages with the idea that, well, if Erica is like a lesbian pedophile, then, you know, then she really didn't care about, you know, executing Charlie. But I think like a lot of these messages are what I would describe as now and so this was like 10 years ago as like millennial cringe. They're sort of, you see that one where it's like, you know, touch my butt, you know, it's Valentine's Day. Or, you know, it just, it. And also sort of a, sort of like a pageant girl homoeroticism where there's sort of like, like, oh my God, like, your hair is so beautiful. Like, I wish I had it. I wish I could kiss your hair. Like, like, I am kind of paraphrasing here, but it's along those lines.
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Tim Miller
I, I don't want to leave this video without mentioning that this, this mockumentary miniseries from Candace is a pretty big L for Megyn Kelly. I mean, Megyn Kelly, you know, when this all was erupting around America Fest couple months after Charlie died, there was a Turning Point conference and there were, people were taking different sides and there was kind of a pro Candice faction or like a Candace, you know, us quietly pro Candice faction and then kind of an anti Candace faction led by Ben Shapiro. The same. Basically, she's spreading lies, lies about, you know, the wife of Charlie. And this is unacceptable. Me and Kelly was the person that in, in, in the middle of that fracas had decided that she wants. She's going to be the mediator, you know, she's not going to pick a side. No, no, no sides being chosen here. You know, just kind of the Fox News kind of, you know, mindset. Right? Fair and balanced. Okay. On the one hand, Candace says that Erica Kirk and the French legionnaires and, you know, some underground people and the Romanians were involved in a plot to kill Charlie. On the other hand, there are people that said, no, the person that confessed to the killing of Charlie is the person that killed Charlie. Megan looked at the two presentations and was like, you know, I'm not. I'm not going to pick a side here. And I'm actually, not only am I not going to pick a side, I'm going to be Switzerland, and I'm going to host, like, a summit between Candace and Erica and try to find peace and use my skills as a former prosecutor and talk show host and YouTuber to kind of bring the tribes together. Doesn't seem like that was a successful effort to me.
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Will Sommer
No, I mean, you're exactly right. I mean, for months, people were saying. People like Ben Shapiro were saying, hey, Megyn Kelly, you want to step up here and help, you know, defend this widow? And she was saying, oh, you know, well, actually, I have to be quiet because I'm cutting the peace deal. I organized the summit in early December between them, a summit, which you can see how well that summit went. And so, I mean, this is like, she cut this peace deal, and now one of the sides is just lobbing missiles at the other. So, I mean, it's a real disaster for her.
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Tim Miller
Wow. Well, I'm interested. Watch the whole thing. I guess I do wonder. I'm a little bit surprised that there. That there continues to be such a rabid audience for this. And I know that there's some hate watching. You know, there's some rubbernecking happening, but you would think people would be bored of this story by now. And a lot's happening in this world. You know, we might be going to war with Iran. You know, the. The cartels are burning down Hyatt's in Puerto Vallarta, like, lots to talk about. But she's still talking about the Charlie Kirk thing. But I guess, I don't know, it doesn't seem to have to have cost her any momentum in the audience front. Have you noticed anything? Well, like that.
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Will Sommer
I think Erica Kirk has proven to be a very unsympathetic figure for a lot of people. Even, you know, like, I feel like the average Internet sentiment, even outside of, like, Candace world, is that, like, it's all a bit weird, the reaction has been strange, the fireworks are a bit much. And so, you know, I think in that way, I think previously Candace had talked about people like Meghan Markle, Blake Lively, these kind of, like, female usually kind of like the audience just kind of goes crazy and they get in a frenzy. And I think in sort of the same. Similar way or Brigitte Macron, they're looking at Erica Kirk in the same way. The other thing I would say is that whenever Candace tries to veer away from this story to get back to the more kind of like Republican coded celebrity gossip she used to do, the audience is furious. She tried to do like a Brooklyn Beckham story when that was really hot a few weeks ago and the audience was like the deep state got to Candace. Why isn't she talking more about Charlie's murder?
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Tim Miller
Got it. So opposite of what I'm saying. The audience is not only not getting tired of this story, but they are demanding new. New chapters.
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Will Sommer
I think that's right.
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Tim Miller
Healthy. That doesn't seem.
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Will Sommer
No, I don't think so. And then you also have to wonder, I mean, I guess the wind Turning Point in Erica are finally going to sue her. I mean, they've sent her legal warning letters. There's kind of a. She has this pre existing non disparagement agreement that basically makes her more legally vulnerable if they do decide to sue her. And so I feel like it's getting to that point once when someone's making a documentary about you and it does
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Tim Miller
feel like Candace has violated the non disparagement agreement now that she has ye. Yeah, now that she is creating this dedicated video series to, you know, advancing the premise that the wife of the Turning Point USA founder murdered him as part of a secret plot where she is being controlled by foreign entities. And that seems disparaging. You know, I'm not a lawyer, but we'll see how it turns out. Okay, before I lose you, you did just file another false flag newsletter that people might want to go check out. But just give us the two cents, Tucker. Another one of these characters was back in the White House. This is causing a little bit of a stir. Why?
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Will Sommer
Yeah, Tucker, I mean, he's flying around the world. He's having combative interviews with Mike Huckabee, suggesting Mike Huckabee maybe wanted to murder him or have the Israelis murder him.
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Tim Miller
You know, he kind of painted Huckabee into a corner where Huckabee ends up gaffing and basically arguing that Israel should control large portions of the Middle east, which has created obviously some concern among Donald Trump's allies, business partners and the UAE and Saudi etc. So, you know, so he creates.
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Will Sommer
That's what you want. On the eve of a. On the eve of an attack On Iran, you want all the Arab states to be mad at you, Right. So you would think he would be on the outs, but instead, here on Monday, he visited the White House again. And, you know, people like Laura Loomer, these right wing kind of traditional pro Israel figures are going, what the heck is going on? Why is this guy still getting to visit the White House? Laura Loomer was just, like, flipping out and saying, you know, evangelical Christians and Jews need to stop supporting the administration or donating to Republicans. So it's, you know, it's an ugly situation.
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Tim Miller
It is an ugly situation. And do we know what he was doing there yet, Tucker?
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Will Sommer
Not yet. Not yet. I mean, in the past, you know, he got. Last month, I think he got lunch with Trump and then kind of hung around for the oil executives meeting.
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Tim Miller
I assume trying to convince Mr. Trump not to get bomber on, you would presume would be on the agenda.
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Will Sommer
You would think so? Yeah. I mean, Dave Rubin, the pundit, was saying Trump called him in to yell at him because he's been such a bad guy lately to maga, which I don't.
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Tim Miller
Doesn't sound right. What sounds more right is that Trump can't decide what he wants to do, and he was waiting to see who convinces him or offers him the biggest bag. Okay, that's Will Sommer. We'll probably be back. My guess is the trio will be back on Thursday or Friday to talk about what more information is presented by Candace Owens or whatever other craziness happens between now and then. So appreciate it.
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Will Sommer
It's gonna be a bombshell. I mean, the FBI is gonna move on Erica Kirk. I mean, it's gonna go crazy once these revelations.
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Tim Miller
It would be interesting if the first person that Cash Patel arrested would be Erica Kirk. And he's been indicting anyone in the Epstein files or finding Nancy Guthrie doing, you know, doing any of the normal FBI business. So I. I don't suspect that Erica Kirk will be his first scalp. But, you know, you can never. You never. You know, there's always the element of surprise in this world. All right, that's Will Sommer. False Flag Newsletter. Subscribe to the feed. Tell your friends. Where else are you getting this content? Nowhere. Nowhere else. We'll see y' all soon. Peace.
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