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Will Sommer
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Sam Stein
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Sam Stein
Hey, guys. Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bull. Org, joined by Tim Miller and Will Sommer to talk about. I don't even know honestly how to describe it. How would you describe it, Tim?
Tim Miller
A reality show cat fight among MAGA influencers. And I'm begging. I've been already on Twitter. I've been begging Matt Gaetz to host an oan show.
Sam Stein
Jerry Springer.
Tim Miller
Yeah, well, maybe, yeah, Jerry Springer's probably right. But I kind of want him to be the Andy Cohen, you know, where he brings them all together, all these women. These women are out for blood. I mean, they are.
Sam Stein
I've never seen anything like it.
Tim Miller
The. The way in which all. They're all maga. This is all maga on maga crime. They're all influencers. And boy, okay, they don't seem to like each other.
Sam Stein
So I. I admit that I don't really know these people, like, at all, but Will does.
Tim Miller
Where are you? Where have you been?
Will Sommer
Yeah, you don't know Morgan, Ariel.
Sam Stein
Morgan.
Tim Miller
Ariel is one of the most prominent TPUSA girls turned anti Semite, you know, like, like, far rightist.
Sam Stein
Okay, Will, why don't you give us just before we get into the tick tock here, because it's juicy as shit. Will, who are these people? Like, how significant are they?
Will Sommer
Yeah, so this is sort of a feud between people who are sort of right, far right influencers. I would say, for the most part, like, too racist or anti semitic to get an invite to TPUSA anymore, to returning Point usa, but like, it's that kind of world. Like, they're like, they wouldn't get on Fox News probably, but they still have pretty big following. I mean, like, everyone we're talking about here has probably at least 100,000, 90,000 followers on X. Some go up to, I think, a million. And so they're pretty big deals. I mean, it was last night. This has been kind of brewing for a few days. And then I was keeping an eye on it, and then suddenly someone was like, well, you got figured fingered in the lobby. And I thought, all right, all right, this needs to be shared with a broader audience.
Sam Stein
First of all, I like how Will's so anthropological about it. He's so academic, the way he discusses it. Like we're talking about dildos fingering in the lobby and Will's just got his button up shirt and talking about this.
Tim Miller
The other thing I liked about as he, he was demure enough to initially post a screenshot that redacted the names of these young women. You know, it was his initial post and I like, literally my, my phone starts lighting up with friends. Like, tell Summer to post the full tweet. Like, I need to see who, like who was the who fingered who in the lobby. I have to know.
Will Sommer
So anyway, I would say this lobby incident has been. This has been kind of the talk of the town for several years and they're far right. So I'm excited to get into.
Sam Stein
Okay, when we get to, when we get in the sequence of the tweets, we're going to let you just sort of cook a little bit. So we tried to map this out. It was really hard because there's multiple directions. It takes a couple of accusations of dildos and HPV and sleeping with black men as if that were a crime. The origin appears to be Sarah Stock, who will correct me if I'm wrong, she's like a newcomer on the scene.
Will Sommer
Yeah, she's relatively new. She's. People may know her from the Sam Cedar Jubilee video. You know, one of these like Sam liberal versus 20 conservatives. But she's the one who's like, America is a white ethno state. And people are like, whoa, whoa. And so she's used that to really increase her profile from there.
Sam Stein
All right, so Sarah Stock posts a photo. It's a fairly standard engagement photo. It's her with her hand and then rings on it and there's like a flower of fields. It all looks pretty nice, but apparently the ring wasn't big enough. And so that sets off Pearl Davis.
Will Sommer
Yeah.
Sam Stein
Who is who?
Will Sommer
Pearl Davis, just briefly, is sort of like a. Almost like a female Andrew Tate character. She's very like, women need to be submissive to men, you know, and she does these kind of crazy takes that.
Tim Miller
Just for a second though, when you said she's a female Andrew Tate character, I thought she was sex trafficking men. And I was like, okay, I'm kind of interested. Got it. Okay. She has Andrew Tate like views.
Will Sommer
Yes. So, yeah, she has very, I guess, anti feminist views and that's how she built her platform. And. But I should say, like, Pearl really hates other women and it's a big deal with her because she has very trad views, but she is herself not married or as far as I know, in a relationship. So whenever these more trad women get married, she kind of gets mad about it.
Tim Miller
Okay, just really quick, I want to throw out there, just as a quick aside, it is not safe as a MAGA influencer to post engagement photos. That's just something we've learned the last two weeks. We also had Robbie Suave of Reason, who posted his gay engagement photo. And that yielded some of the nastiest shit I've ever seen in the responses before this, before this video. So just we, we now have two data points. If you're a MAGA influencer and you get engaged, keep it to yourself.
Sam Stein
That's a pretty good. That's a pretty good public service announcement material right there. All right, so Pearl Davis says Sarah's just posting the engagement photo to promote her brand. And then it really takes a turn.
Will Sommer
Which is a gentle, relatively gentle rib, I would say.
Sam Stein
Yeah, but it's. It's not necessary. But it's fine. It's not beyond the bounds. Then it really takes a turn because Sarah shoots back that Pearl is quote, ran through by black guys. What the. Like, why? The why? I don't. Just totally taking it to a level that was not necessary.
Will Sommer
Yeah, well, these women really hate Pearl. I. I should say because she's constantly like, undermining other right wing women.
Tim Miller
Yeah, she's like the Omarosa of this reality thing.
Will Sommer
Clearly, like, they were just. She was ready to go off on Pearl.
Sam Stein
Yeah. Okay. Now then comes from the top rope. Emily Saves America. Who the fuck is that? I should know probably.
Will Sommer
Emily Saves America is sort of just like, you know what? You might. I wouldn't call them this, but like a right wing E girl. Right. I mean, she kind of like floats between I think these right wing outlets. And I think she was at the Blaze until recently. And, you know, she, she just does videos about, you know, how great Trump is.
Sam Stein
She makes fun of the ring size. Then Ian Smith.
Will Sommer
Yeah. This guy is famous. This guy is famous because he refused to close a gym in New Jersey during COVID and he became famous for that. But he's like, he's like basically like a, like a Nazi. I mean, he's like really right wing.
Sam Stein
So he comes out, he calls her an unwed, childless Fox News girl boss who complains when women make sourdough, now hates on ring size of a happily engaged young woman. Congrats, bozo. You're a feminist. And Emily Saves America does not take this one lightly. All right, this is when it gets really juicy. Bulwark takes a sponsor by Seoul. I gotta tell you, my days of drinking my calories are behind me. Having some drinks can be fun, but I'm glad I found an alternative that lets me feel great both in the moment and the next morning. Out of Office Gummies from Soul Sol is a wellness brand that believes feeling good should be fun and easy. Sole specializes in delicious hemp derived THC and CBD products designed to boost your mood and help you unwind. Their best selling out of Office Gummies were designed to provide mild relaxing buzz, boost your mood and enhance creativity and relaxation. I've been taking a low dosage of these before bed and you know what? I wake up the next day ready to tackle my day with a vengeance. And my parenting skills, I gotta be honest, they've gone through the roof. The out of office gummies come in four different strengths. So you can find the perfect dose for your vibes. You can choose from a gentle microdose, a perfect buzz, a noticeable high, or the fully lit experience which we call the Tim Miller special. With wellness at the forefront, you can feel good about what you're putting in your body. All of Sole's products are made from organically farmed USA grown hemp and are vegan, gluten free and low in sugar. And if you like their out of Office gummies, you've got to try their new out of Office beverage. A refreshing alcohol free alternative perfect for the summer sipping. So bring on the good vibes and treat yourself to Sole today. Right now, Seoul is offering our audience 30% off your entire order. Go to getsold.com and use the code bulwark takes. That's getsoul.com promo code bulwark takes for 30% off. Emily says America writes back between allegedly in quotations, cheating on your wife, being caught with a dildo up your ass, killing a teenager. I don't know why she blacked out the eye that killing a teenager with your first of two DUIs. You really should sit this one out.
Tim Miller
None of these people know so much about each other. I think is another thing that is interesting to me. But what is the dildo up your ass story? Do you know the next story to that, Will? I was wondering.
Will Sommer
I have to be honest, I'm not familiar with the dildo situation. This is the first I was hearing of it. I Do know he does have a history of DUIs, and I guess this fatal car crash, I think had come up in the past. But this is a guy who, again, like Pearl, is a very contentious figure on the right, and so people really have the receipts. Seats on him.
Sam Stein
Okay, could you.
Tim Miller
Could you get back to us with more on the dildos? Because I don't.
Sam Stein
The next false flag needs to be about the dildo, and I don't want.
Tim Miller
To impugn this guy or, I mean, nothing. I guess it's not impugning to get a deal up your ass that's totally appropriate if that's what you're into. But, you know, we don't want any false information out there.
Sam Stein
No. And we have. We're going through this incredible dildo epidemic at WNBA games. We're throwing dildos all over the floor. We're in a. We're really in a golden age of dildos.
Tim Miller
Yeah.
Sam Stein
Yeah. So this is. This is not the insult that Emily thinks it is. Now a separate fight starts breaking out on the side. Morgan, Ariel, will. Let's dive in. Who's Morgan?
Will Sommer
Yeah, Morgan, Ariel was. Was sort of a turning point USA figure until she got really anti Semitic and so kind of got the boot from that.
Tim Miller
She's kind of like a tier two Candace, maybe tier three. She's kind of like a homeless man's cam. Candace Owens, kind of.
Will Sommer
She's not like the great value Candace. I mean, she's a couple tiers below that.
Sam Stein
I want to get back to Morgan because. I'll let you know. During the course of this, I began to feel sympathetic towards Morgan. And then I found the most blatantly anti Semitic tweet from her that was issued just, like, hours before this whole thing went down. I was like, oh, wait, no, not my side of the fight. Anyway, she comes in and she says to Emily, you gave it up for Frijo. Might want to sit this one out. And Emily, who just knows one speed, responds with a bazooka. Morgan, your baby daddy abandoned you, your rape, raising a bastard child. But yet somehow, some way, you think you're better than me or anyone on this app. You gave it up for free, got left in the dust, and now post rage bait on X to supplement in the inadequacy of your monthly child support payments.
Tim Miller
Got it. Is Morgan's. Is Morgan's baby daddy also an influencer? Is that. Is that right? Or do I have that mixed up? Well. Or do we not know?
Will Sommer
I don't think we know that. At some point, I believe Pearl also says, you know, like, Morgan, you have HPV, because Morgan posted a YouTube about her HPV once. I mean, it's like. Like, stuff that, you know, in a high school be like, holy smokes. Like, these are really going for it, right?
Sam Stein
And it just goes from there. I want it.
Tim Miller
Because then, Morgan, we shouldn't be stigmatizing HPV either. I should say it's easily dealt with. Okay, so that's just, you know, just something I wanted to throw out there.
Sam Stein
I like that you're defending all this stuff. The real voice of reason here. Okay? And then comes the real, like, coup de grace. I mean, this one was truly from the depths of, like, anger and humiliation.
Tim Miller
So just. So Morgan, just. Just. Just to contextualize, because now we're getting a lot of names. This is the anti Israel, anti Semite, who is a single mother who has hpv, came in late.
Sam Stein
Not the dude with the dildo in his ass.
Tim Miller
He came in late for the debate. And now she's going after. Not the original person that posted the engagement photo, but the person that made fun of the person who posted the engagement photo.
Sam Stein
Yeah, we have players here. Yes, of course. We have the Astildo guy, the HPV girl. We have Em Saves America. We have Pearl, who somehow threw the first lob and then, like, got out. And then we have Sarah Stock, who accused Pearl, I believe, of, like, having sex with black dudes as if that's a crime. And then just was, like, kind of quiet for a little bit. But here's Morgan responding to Emily Saves America in what is the perfect tweet of the night. None of this is true, Emily, but unlike you, I don't lie. So here are some facts. Guys, buckle in here. You got fingered in the middle of the hotel lobby at a TP USA event. Well, everybody watched, and there were families around.
Tim Miller
Any slam that starts with, you got fingered is gonna be a winner. I have to say, just. Just. Just as a figure skating judging, not discussing the morality of it.
Sam Stein
Yeah, it's like. It's like landing the triple axle on the first jump.
Tim Miller
It's a strong opener.
Sam Stein
You brag about having sex with married MAGA dads and doing drugs. You have been completely. You've been completely ran through. They keep saying ran through. You've been completely ran through by both single and married men in the right wing. You call young virgins losers, encourage them to have premarital sex, and you're pro abortion. You're a disgusting feminist with a Jezebel spirit who uses filters in all her videos. Ouch.
Tim Miller
Morgan. Deep cut and lives in rebellion to.
Sam Stein
Go while grifting off the conservative movement and simultaneously trashes women who desire to live God honoring lifestyles because their engagement rings didn't cost enough or their lifestyle isn't flashy enough. But yeah, I'm the one who needs money, you gold digging hoe. So yes, I am better than you, Will.
Tim Miller
There's a lot of. There's a lot of lore about this fingering and I just wonder if you could add any color to it.
Sam Stein
Yeah, this is where Will's expertise comes in.
Will Sommer
Yeah. So I've actually been in Twitter spaces where right wing influencers have talked about the fingering incident, the hookup incident, whatever. Basically Current Revolt, which is a right wing blog out of Texas which actually does some decent reporting they reported a few years ago, basically this came to a head when Christian Walker, who people may remember as the son of Herschel Walker, he accused Elijah Schaefer, who is a right wing guy who worked at the Blaze and left that under allegations of sexual assault to his employ his co workers.
Tim Miller
We should throw out there really quick that Elijah Schaffer's now spun off his own kind of white nationalist right wing media outlet.
Will Sommer
That's right.
Tim Miller
Yeah, I see a lot in my feed. So you know, some prominence in the white nationalist, you know, area.
Sam Stein
Yes.
Will Sommer
And that comes up because. Because so basically Christian Walker and Current Revolt Acute said that Emily here had hooked up with Elijah Schaefer in the lobby. And I'm assuming, given it's a TV USA lobby, I'm assuming it's the same thing. That's.
Tim Miller
Oh my God. So Elijah Schaefer is the finger.
Will Sommer
That's the allegation.
Sam Stein
That's the allegation.
Will Sommer
And there's also a twist.
Sam Stein
According to Christian Walker. According to Christian Walker.
Will Sommer
And I would also say gossip, just to show you how incestuous all this is. Elijah Schaefer is now Sarah Stock's boss at his new media venture. So you know.
Tim Miller
The original person that posted the engagement photo. So just to circle this up for people who are trying to follow the fingerer, okay. Who fingered the lady that went after Sarah Stock for her engagement photo is also the boss of the engagement photo poster. Got it. Okay, that's interesting. That's an interesting wrinkle.
Sam Stein
So as this is going down and Morgan and Ariel's going after Emily Saves USA and Pearl, who started a lot of this, decides that she's gonna go after Morgan. So sorry, I'm catching my breath here. She says, Morgan, you're A single mother with a public video admitting you have hpv. You may want to sit this one out. Ah, man. And then we just keep going from there. Emily goes after Morgan for raising a bastard child. Morgan then goes after Emily for that. We got the fingering.
Tim Miller
Yeah. Okay.
Sam Stein
Okay. So that brings us to me. I. I went through this whole thing just sort of kind of like I feel bad for Morgan because she's really, like, just, you know, it. It just seemed rough on her, and I felt like that was wrong and like, you know, there was a bunch of racist and stuff like that. And then I just kind of like decided to check out who Morgan was a little bit. And I, like, just. All I did, I just scrolled through the Twitter feed, like, literally, like half a page, like, not even that. And I stumbled upon this tweet that she had issued earlier in the day, like 7:27pm so we're talking about hours before this whole thing went down where she writes, TPUSA kicked me out of their organization and blacklisted me because I exposed Israel and the Talmud right after October 7th. Charlie Kirk is owned by his Jewish donors, and his loyalty doesn't lie with Christians. Christ is king. And I thought to myself, geez, that's fucking anti Semitic. And I don't know if I can take sides with this person anymore.
Will Sommer
You're no longer Team Morgan.
Tim Miller
I don't think there is a side taking in this situation.
Will Sommer
No, I've just kind of.
Tim Miller
I don't think that there's any. Any. Anybody that is a white hat. I think that it's sort of who comes out looking.
Sam Stein
Well here.
Tim Miller
No one, I guess. Sarah Stock. She's engaged.
Sam Stein
She was throwing out accusations about, oh, you slee of black people. And it's like, what the.
Tim Miller
Oh, is that her?
Will Sommer
Yeah. And, you know, she's got the tiny diamond.
Sam Stein
She went and responded to pro by saying, once you stop getting ran through by black guys, it could happen to you too. Yeah, these people are not great. Last question for Will. What the fuck happens at TP USA gatherings? Like, what is going on there? It's just a fest. What is, like, the deal?
Will Sommer
They sound fun, if you're into it. I mean, this. This kind of thing, I should say, like, allegations of, like, who misbehaved at tpusa. This is a very common trope on the right about, like, we all know what you were up to at the bar. This kind of stuff. I mean, I think someone made the reference. They're like, hey, I'm just surprised to hear heterosexual sex was happening at TPUSA events.
Tim Miller
So.
Will Sommer
So this, this is a frequent topic.
Sam Stein
Tim, any final thoughts?
Tim Miller
Well, I have a podcast on some real topics I've got to get to.
Sam Stein
Okay, fair enough.
Tim Miller
You know, things that are happening in the world world. But I appreciate you guys adding me at the last second because anytime there's accusations of dildos and fingering, I feel like I would be really unfortunate if I could.
Sam Stein
It's actually in the bulwark bylaws that we have to include Tim on any dildo conversation. So we are obligated to do it. All right, well, Tim, thanks a bunch for people who endured this and actually watched to the end of this. Thank you and subscribe to the feed.
Tim Miller
Tell your friends.
Sam Stein
Subscribe to the feed where you can get all the dildo talk you want. All right, guys, take care.
Will Sommer
Thank you.
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Podcast Summary: Bulwark Takes – Episode: Inside MAGA’s Wildest Feud (Highly NSFW!)
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Introduction
In this explosive episode of Bulwark Takes, host Sam Stein, along with co-hosts Tim Miller and Will Sommer, delve into the tumultuous feud unfolding among prominent MAGA influencers. Titled “Inside MAGA’s Wildest Feud (Highly NSFW!),” the episode dissects the intricate web of personal attacks, allegations, and power struggles that have captured attention across social media platforms.
1. Overview of the Feud
Sam Stein introduces the episode by describing the situation as “a reality show cat fight among MAGA influencers” (00:41). The hosts emphasize the intensity and public fascination with the ongoing conflict, comparing it to popular reality TV dynamics.
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2. Key Players Involved
The feud centers around several key figures within the MAGA influencer community:
Sarah Stock: A relatively new figure in the scene, known for her provocative statements advocating for America as a white ethnostate.
Pearl Davis: Characterized as a “female Andrew Tate,” Davis promotes traditional gender roles and openly criticizes other women within the movement.
Emily Saves America: Described as a right-wing "E-girl," Emily is known for her fervent support of Trump and frequent content creation around conservative themes.
Morgan Ariel: Initially a TPUSA figure, she shifted towards anti-Semitic rhetoric, leading to her ostracization from mainstream conservative groups.
Elijah Schaefer & Christian Walker: Elijah, formerly associated with The Blaze, now runs his own white nationalist media outlet. Christian Walker, son of Herschel Walker, gained notoriety for refusing to close his gym during COVID-19 restrictions and has a history of DUI offenses.
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3. Timeline of Events
a. The Spark: Engagement Photo Controversy (03:31 – 04:18)
Sarah Stock posts an engagement photo that seemingly goes unnoticed until Pearl Davis criticizes the ring size, deeming it inadequate. This public scrutiny marks the beginning of the feud.
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b. Escalation: Personal Attacks and Allegations (05:27 – 14:05)
The conflict intensifies as Sarah accuses Pearl of being “ran through by black guys,” adding racial undertones to the dispute. Emily Saves America enters the fray by mocking Sarah’s ring size and personal life, prompting further backlash.
Morgan Ariel steps in, confronting Emily with personal insults related to her status as a single mother and allegations of premarital sex. The situation spirals as Morgan reveals anti-Semitic sentiments, further complicating alliances and support within the MAGA community.
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c. The Fingering Incident and Additional Allegations (14:05 – 17:55)
A pivotal moment occurs when allegations surface about inappropriate behavior (“fingering”) during a TPUSA event. Will Sommer explains the background, linking it to Elijah Schaefer’s controversial past and his new media venture where he now employs Sarah Stock.
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4. Analysis by Hosts
The hosts provide a critical analysis of the feud, highlighting the destructive nature of personal attacks within political movements. They discuss how these conflicts not only damage individual reputations but also tarnish the broader MAGA narrative by exposing internal discord and hypocrisy.
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5. Conclusions and Implications
The episode concludes with reflections on the futility of such feuds, emphasizing that no positive outcomes emerge from the constant backstabbing and public humiliation. The hosts suggest that the MAGA movement suffers from a lack of coherent leadership and internal solidarity, which could undermine its political effectiveness in the long run.
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6. Final Thoughts
In a humorous yet critical tone, the hosts wrap up the discussion by poking fun at the sensational nature of the feud, reinforcing the episode’s central theme of internal conflict within the MAGA influencer community.
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Conclusion
This episode of Bulwark Takes offers a comprehensive and unflinching look into the chaotic and often-toxic interactions among MAGA influencers. Through detailed examination and insightful commentary, the hosts illuminate the broader implications of such feuds on political movements and public discourse.
For those interested in the intricate dynamics of political influencer communities and the impact of personal conflicts on broader movements, this episode provides a rich and engaging analysis.