Is Jeanine Pirro About To Be Fired?

Summary

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Bulwark Takes – “Is Jeanine Pirro About To Be Fired?”

Date: August 4, 2026
Host(s): Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and team

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Episode Overview

In this lively and fast-paced episode, the Bulwark team dives into the chaotic world of Trump-era politics, focusing on a particularly disastrous week for the administration. They highlight Judge Jeanine Pirro’s high-profile blunder as U.S. Attorney for D.C. and rumors that she might be on her way out. Along the way, Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and crew analyze Trump’s habitual double standards, pivots on Iran, hypocrisy around tax laws, and more, in their signature candid, irreverent tone.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. The Max Miller Scandal and Trump’s Reactions

Timestamp: 01:06–05:20

• Trump is questioned about alleged domestic abuse by Rep. Max Miller and whether Miller should resign. Trump’s response is defined by familiar deflections and an unusual tone of empathy.
  • Quote (Trump): “It's accusations and I'm going to let them figure that out. It's a very sad thing, especially when you know somebody so well to be going through that.” (01:30)
• The team notes his empathy is uniquely reserved for accused men, especially accused abusers—not for victims of other tragedies or policy failures.
  • Insight: “There's like a couple truisms of Trump and one of them is that if there's a male Republican who is accused of some sort of domestic or sexual abuse, he will feel empathy or sympathy.” (Sam Stein, 02:00)
  • Discussion of how quickly Republican circles (and right-wing media) close ranks around one of their own if an election is near.
• Speculation on whether mainstream conservative voters are even aware of this story, given a media bubble and lack of Fox coverage.

2. Iran: Weakness, War, and Trump’s Flip-Flops

Timestamp: 05:25–09:52

• Trump addresses repeated “last chances” for Iran and claims he’s holding off on major military strikes—despite bluster.
  • Quote (Trump): “I want to give them every last chance before decapitation. ...I'll give people a Chance, this is a big move to do an attack that big.” (06:14)
• Tim Miller criticizes Trump for “astonishing weakness,” contrasting it with Fox’s past attacks on Obama.
  • Quote (Tim): “The weakness that he is showing is just astonishing... if you're going to start the stupidest war ever, you have to have the backbone to see it through.” (07:07–07:34)
• The panel notes how “limp” and “low-T” his posture is, and that Democrats, instead of attacking, are tacitly letting him twist.
  • Quote (Sam): “It's limp, it's low T.” (08:10)
• The cycle of “almost a deal” talk, media overreaction, and Trump’s repetitive bluster are lampooned as a never-ending loop.

3. The Trump Tax Code and ‘Deals’ with the IRS

Timestamp: 09:54–12:39

• Trump continues to claim there are two tax codes, and that his 10-year audits were routine until he ran for office.
  • Quote (Trump): “I've been audited every year for my entire life... a lot of wealthy friends who were never audited.” (10:31)
• The team ridicules this myth and points out it’s a smokescreen for the lack of tax transparency and continual legal maneuvering.
  • Quote (Tim): “Maybe they weren't all fucking tax cheats like you. The whole thing is just like, yeah, dude, you're screwing people over all the time. That's why you kept getting audited.” (10:48)
• Discussion shifts to the IRS “deal” to shield Trump, Trump Org, and his kids from certain audits, calling it unprecedented legal favoritism.
  • Sam notes a related new story: a federal judge throwing out Trump’s lawsuit against Capital One, which had closed Trump org accounts over anti-money laundering concerns.

4. Trump on Europe, Immigration, and... Windmills

Timestamp: 12:46–15:06

• Trump veers into Europe’s immigration, energy, and “windmill” policies.
  • Quote (Trump): “Any country with windmills is a loser. Okay? You just have to look, if they have windmills, they're a loser.” (13:12)
• Panel mocks both Trump’s disdain for wind energy and his apocalyptic framing of Europe’s immigration crisis.
  • Lighthearted banter follows about “windmills being gay” and whether visible evidence actually matches the right-wing hype about European cities.
• Tim and Sam compare the media treatment of real crises (like homelessness in California) vs. the hyping of European immigration troubles.

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The Judge Jeanine Pirro Debacle

Timestamp: 15:09–21:15

• Focus turns to Judge Jeanine Pirro (now U.S. Attorney for D.C.), who severely botched a vandalism case tied to the DC Reflecting Pool, forcing her to drop charges and blame the Department of Interior for incomplete info.
  • Summary (Sam): “She had a press conference where she said, we found a vandal who cut all the 300ft slit in the reflecting pool... Anyhow, over the weekend, she files motion to dismiss the lawsuit because it wasn't rock solid. It was clearly a installation issue, as they admitted in the lawsuit.” (15:35)
• Trump is reportedly furious. When asked, he gives lengthy, rambling answers, blaming Pirro herself.
  • Quote (Trump): “Jeanine Pirro made a mistake. There was vandalism.” (17:40)
  • Quote (Trump): “Frankly, I think she choked.” (17:45)
  • Panel mocks the idea of Trump criticizing others for choking.
• Doug Burgum (Interior Secretary) piles on, attempting to keep in Trump’s good graces, as the panel notes the demeaning effect proximity to Trump has on formerly reputable people.
  • Quote (Sam): “He just makes people into the worst versions of themselves... He's got power... but like, you know, it's ridiculous...” (18:44–19:10)
• Panel jokes about Pirro being “put on ice” like a bottle of Pinot Grigio, and notes the gender pattern: so far, only women from the administration have been axed.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Trump’s sympathy for accused men:
  • Sam: “There's like a couple truisms of Trump and one of them is that if there's a male Republican who is accused of some sort of domestic or sexual abuse, he will feel empathy or sympathy.” (02:00)
• On Trump and Iran:
  • Tim: “The weakness that he is showing is just astonishing... if you're going to start the stupidest war ever, you have to have the backbone to see it through.” (07:07–07:34)
  • Sam: “It's limp, it's low T.” (08:10)
• On Trump’s tax excuses:
  • Tim: “Maybe they weren't all fucking tax cheats like you.” (10:48)
• On windmills:
  • Trump: “Any country with windmills is a loser. Okay?” (13:12)
  • Sam (deadpan): “It's true. It's a fact.” (13:12)
• On the dysfunctional administration:
  • Tim: “He just makes people into the worst versions of themselves.” (18:44)
  • Sam: "Judge Pirro...like a bottle of Pinot grige on a warm summer day needs to be put on ice or is being put on ice. How’s that?” (20:10–20:12)

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Final Reflections

Timestamp: 20:15–21:15

• The episode closes with the Bulwark team imagining how media would treat similar fiascos under a Democratic administration: endless focus on “message” and leadership.
• Harsh assessment: Instead of addressing real issues facing Americans, Trump is mired in personal drama and defending the indefensible.
  • Quote (Tim): “Instead, you know, he is out there, like, litigating personal vendettas and defending sexual abusers... he has no message.” (20:57)

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Essential Takeaways

• Trump’s empathy appears when accused men in his party are in trouble, never for victims or ordinary people.
• On policy, Trump’s erratic, weak-seeming moves on Iran contrast starkly with past Republican posturing on Obama.
• The administration’s legal double standards continue, including suspicious IRS deals and failed prosecutions.
• The Pirro fiasco is emblematic of the dysfunction, backbiting, and personal loyalty games at the White House.
• Media hypocrisy and audience bubbles result in selective outrage and limited public awareness.

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For Further Reading:

• JVL’s Triad at thebulwark.com – in-depth on the reflecting pool debacle and cabinet dysfunction.

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Transcript

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[C]

Hey, everybody, Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with Sam Stein.

[D]

Yeah, I need hazard coming back in. You know, it's just like you got to throw me into the fire.

[C]

And Donald Trump did an Oval Office press conference. Tired, Tim, before vacation was skipping some of the press conferences.

[D]

I didn't need it.

[C]

I couldn't handle it anymore. It was bothering me. Not, not, not refreshed too. Sam Stein always working hard.

[D]

He's always watching everything.

[C]

So we launched this press conference. The biggest news about Jeanine Pira.

[D]

We'll get to that at the end. Judge, Box of wine.

[C]

But there's a bunch of other weirdness and craziness and let's just go to

[D]

the clips, huh, Sam?

[E]

Yeah, let's do it. Man. It's good to have you back.

[C]

First up, alleged wife Scalder and domestic abuser Max Miller.

[D]

Trump was asked about the latest with him and his father in law saying he should resign from Congress. Let's listen to that.

[F]

You were asked yesterday whether Representative Max Miller should resign from Congress. Congress over the allegations. And you said that you'd have a look at it. Have you thought about that? And also, do you think that he's.

[G]

It's a very sad thing. I know Max, he's a good person. I mean, I always thought he was a very good person. And I'm going to let the families figure that out. You know those families, I know they're working on it. It's a very sad thing, especially when you know somebody so well to be going through that. But it's accusations and I'm going to let them figure that out.

[E]

There's like a couple truisms of Trump and one of them is that if there's a male Republican who is accused of some sort of domestic or sexual abuse, he will feel empathy or sympathy.

[C]

Really? Even Democrats often.

[E]

Yeah, that's true too.

[D]

Really? Any man accused of sexual assault, I mean, it's varying degrees, but Bill Clinton,

[E]

he actually, you're met. You're right. Like he wasn't the most on the board with glam like The Graham Platner pitchforks, he wasn't there. And it's, like, really bothersome. I mean, I think, you know, if I, you know, you read the charges against Miller and you see the weird psychotic tape that he put up on. On Twitter over the weekend and you're like, I don't know, get this guy out of here. Like, at the very minimum, you're like, go resolve your stuff outside of elected office. Like, do something else. It's really sad for the kid who had a bone broken by a seatbelt and the wife who is going through an incredible trauma. But no, Trump's gotta be like, you know, I like the guy. He's a really good guy.

[C]

He gets wistful and you're putting out empathy. Right. It's a tone that Trump doesn't hit very often.

[E]

Right.

[C]

It's a very sad thing. You know, you hear him talking. It's just a very. When you know the family, it's a very sad thing. It's like he doesn't ever sound like

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that when talking about.

[E]

When it's a guy who was killed by an ICE agent, it's a sad thing.

[D]

His daughter, the separation of families at the border.

[C]

Like, you never hear. Or even any just tragedies. Like, you never hear Trump doing that. Like, we've got to help the people.

[D]

It's so sad what has happened.

[C]

Like, it's only when a man is

[D]

accused of sexual assault that he hits that register. Or Ghislaine Maxwell, he did that for her also. Not Jonathan Swan interview, Remember talking about how, how that was very sad as well.

[C]

It's interesting you guys did the take on it this morning.

[D]

Do you think that, like, there's going to be any momentum for pushing Miller out or not?

[E]

There's only a couple days left to do it and Miller doesn't seem like he wants to budge, so I don't think so. But, like, you watch all the evidence coming out and you watch that creepy video he did, and then Marina finally speaks out and says, yeah, this guy shouldn't be in the house. It's tough to sort of process a universe where he, you know, just sticks it out. But then again, like, all the history that we have is that they'll rally around the guy if it gets close enough to election, right?

[C]

Yeah, it's really, it's disgusting stuff. It makes me think. I like, I think about.

[D]

I hate to pick up my own ants and put them into this, but, like, I had these MAGA ants and I was in, I was hanging out with them and, you know, I always try to, like, see what's happening in their, like, information diet. And they were, like, very aware of Graham Platner. You know, like, they were like. And I was like, naming other senators and Senate candidates. Nothing, like, knew nothing, you know, about, like, the other Roy Cooper. Like, they don't even know that person exists.

[C]

I wonder if this is breaking through the bubble.

[E]

I doubt it. Platinum. Platinum was like, topic 1A on news for, like, you know, several weeks straight. It was front page discoveries on the New York Times and the Journal and, like, rightfully so. I'm not gonna, I'm not trying to dismiss the coverage of Platinum. You know, the Times did a piece on, on Max Miller, but, like, I don't get any sense. Not like Fox News is covering this stuff to the degree that they were at all. So. No, there's a double standard here. Obviously, everyone knows there's a double standard and there's a hat gap. But I think that's echoed by Trump, who. Who obviously is being, you know, incredibly deferential to a guy who's got some serious issues.

[C]

Okay, let's flip the next clip. Let me hear him talk about Iran. But before we play it, if we could just pause and just kind of

[D]

set the scene for a sec. Oval Office is looking pretty good.

[E]

Yeah, I knew you're going to love it. It's just, it's. It's hit peak 10 right now.

[C]

I mean, I'm like, wow, more is more. I need a few more accoutrements around me.

[D]

I think we did it while you were gone.

[E]

We did a video on just this. They've really optimized the gold ornament on the. It's just. It's like totally over the top. But I know this is your lot

[C]

of color in that gold finger. Okay, let's play. This is Trump talking about the Iran war. Let's do that.

[H]

Mr. President, this is at least the fifth time you've turned off airstrikes against Iran since April to negotiate. What is your message to the American people who are wondering what has changed this time? Why should it be any different?

[G]

Well, you don't know. I don't know. I think we're going to maybe get something, but I want to give them every last chance before decapitation. It's very tough to do what we have planned. Still planned. We'll see what happens, but it's a very, very tough thing to do. I think I'm very proud of the fact that I will give people. I'll give people a Chance, this is a big move to do an attack that big. On a contrary, I'd rather not do it now. We've already threw lots of large attacks, but they were normal large. Hopefully they'll come to their senses because what happened cannot have a nuclear weapon. But hopefully they'll come to their senses. So they called me and they said, please don't attack. We'll make a deal. That's the real truth and everyone knows it.

[C]

Okay, that's enough. This is enough of that. Sam, I gotta tell you, I would like to go first as the former neocon here. The weakness that he is showing is just astonishing. And I think that the Democrats are afraid to make that argument because they don't want to seem like warmongers or whatever, which I guess I understand. I think that you could make it in this frame, which is like, if you're going to start the stupidest war ever, you have to have the backbone

[D]

to see it through.

[C]

And I'm sorry, but this is.

[D]

Think about the hours that Fox spent on the red line that Obama didn't cross.

[C]

I mean, think about the statements that

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Tom Cotton, fancy pants Tom Cotton put out about the red line.

[C]

Obama is a weak pussy. He didn't follow through on his red line. Trump starts a war with Iran, and then it's like, you know, we just got to keep giving him every last chance. I just got to keep giving him chances. I got to keep giving him chances. I gotta give him more and more chances because I don't want to do it. I don't really. I don't want to have to do the dirty work. It's just, it's, it's limp, it's low

[E]

T. It's limp, it's low T. I disagree that they should. I don't think they need to help him unbury himself because this is. It is sad and, and, and it looks so, so weak. There was another part of the clip we didn't play where he says they're going to go quickly one way or the other. We're talking about the straight, the opening of the straight, having it open literally by tomorrow. And phase two is when we talk about the nuclear capacity. That will take a little while. And I was just watching it, I was thinking to myself, like, that's literally what the MoU was, right? Where we're just in, like a repeat of what you signed a document alleging that the strait was going to be open to, the nuclear deal was done. You're just saying, oh, we got to deal with this stuff.

[C]

Phase one. Is back to the status quo before the war started.

[E]

I know. And honestly, you're off for two weeks. Like I'm sure he said verbatim what he just said. Then two weeks ago, we're just in this repetitive cycle. It's so obvious. I'm like genuinely shocked that the markets still react at all the way they do. Like the deal that we had last night when we had a deal to open the straight and oil fell precipitously in, the stock market took off. It's like, folks, obviously there's no deal. There's no deal. What are we talking about? I'm not an expert. I don't need to talk to the Iranians. We know now that this is just how it goes. He's going to say that they're close, then he's going to say he's going to annihilate them, then he' to say we're close, then he's. It's just back and forth and I feel like we are in a never ending loop of nonsense. And yeah, maybe the Democrats can be like, hey, you look really stupid and weak and they should say that. But like he. What do they. I don't think they'd be more prescriptive than that. It's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.

[C]

So with the Blanche story, talked about

[D]

this a bit on the pod, he produces the piece of paper that gets Cornyn to say that he's going to go ahead and push forward, you know, saying that the not to go forward with deprivation fund.

[C]

But the paper doesn't say anything about

[D]

the immunity from the IRS looking into Trump, which was the other element of the so called deal. So Trump's asked about that. Let's listen to that.

[I]

There are Democrats right now who say there's essentially two tax codes. There's the Trump family tax code and a normal people tax code. Why do you think that your family deserves some level of special exemption when it comes to the auditing of tax code?

[G]

Well, I'll go into that. First of all, I had a 10 year case that was settled until I announced I was running for office. It was a settled deal like I've been doing all my life. I've been audited every year for my entire life, which I have a lot of wealthy friends who were never audited. To this day, they would never audit it.

[C]

Maybe they weren't all fucking tax cheats like you. The whole thing is just like, yeah, dude, you're screwing people over all the time. That's why you kept getting audited and Then you kept cutting these deals because you didn't want to pay the full rate. A lot of your other rich friends

[D]

are just happy to be rich. American patriots pay their fair share or

[C]

they have offshore accounts and they're American patriots that are smarter than you about cheating the tax code. Like, whatever. Like, you know. And then the other thing of him saying he was audited for 10 years, that was all fake. That was his excuse. That was pretense for not releasing the,

[D]

the, the tax return.

[C]

So anyway, that's.

[D]

Sorry Tim with 2016 PTSD has to weigh in on that, but it's pretty

[C]

telling that he doesn't back off the pretense at all that, like, that deal

[D]

is still in place.

[E]

And the deal is still in place. It's very much in place. Even in the, like, most generous reading. You take what Cornyn and Till said, they're like, well, we have a deal. The IRS immunity is not going to extend beyond Trump, Trump Org and the Trump kids. And it's like, okay, so there is a deal to immunize them, at least three of them. And like, is that fair in the slightest? I mean, there is another story that broke over the weekend about Capital One. I'm going to read this from the, from the AI overview. So if I get this wrong, blame the AI bots. But federal judge permanently dismissed A law asked a federal judge to permanently dismiss a lawsuit brought by Donald Trump Trust revealing that it closed hundreds of Trump organization accounts in 20 due to anti money laundering concerns rather than political bias. So a major bank is saying, hey, there is real potential of money laundering happening with these accounts. Is this deal that now is still in place even if limited, does that mean that he can't get investigated for anti money for money laundering? I mean, like, what are we, what are we talking about? Are we just going to basically say the laws don't apply to this company, this one company? Now I happen to think that this is sort of a little bit overblown because I don't think another future administration is going to be like, yeah, they have a deal. We're going to abide by it. Like, no, I mean, come on. It still is a distortion and a perversion of the law.

[C]

It's not within modern precedent that we're

[D]

in this place now where it's like the other party has to be in power for a person to get investigated.

[C]

I tease Judge Box Wine, but we got one more. Trump has some thoughts about what's happening in Europe.

[E]

This one's great.

[G]

It's very sad when I see what's happening to Europe. It's very sad to me, but they have a problem with immigration. They have a problem with energy. You have windmills all over the place. Windmills. You lose your shirt. Any country with windmills is a loser. Okay? You just have to look, if they have windmills, they're a loser.

[E]

It's true. It's a fact.

[C]

Well, we're a loser. We have windmills.

[E]

We have the second most windmills in the world next to China. Total losers. We got 75,000 windmills in this country. Losers. Loser mentality. Trump's trying to destroy them, but we still have a lot of them. What does that. Are we losers for windmills? Are windmills like, you know, dare I say, are they gay?

[C]

Windmills are a little fruity. I just want to say one thing about Europe and I don't, you know, look, I'm an American. I'm a tourist.

[D]

I don't want to pretend like, you know, I'm not Tom Friedman in here in the cab saying, I was going

[C]

around here, but I don't know.

[E]

But you have a cat taxi driver you talk to in Germany, and I

[C]

was in Germany and France, and I was in, like, Marseille, which is one of the cities that comes up on Fox. And I just. I was expecting a lot more hijabs is all I'm gonna say. Like, I don't, you know, I just like the way that they talk about this. Not that that would even matter. Like, you know what I mean? But the way they talk about this. I was just figuring that, like, to the naked eye, you would notice that

[D]

these cities had a higher percentage of

[C]

Muslims or migrants than you would have expected. And I. I did not. I did not experience that. And I was. I was going to some of the seedy gay neighborhoods as well.

[D]

Sam.

[C]

I wasn't just in the fancy neighborhoods.

[E]

You were looking in the wrong places. All the Muslims, they live in the windmills and they come out at night.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not saying there isn't some immigration issues with Europe. I'm just saying if it's the crisis

[D]

that everybody says it is, I was

[C]

expecting to, I don't know, notice it. Like in Oakland, if you talked about homeless crisis in California, they would put. And I used to say this when I lived there. I hate to give Tucker credit. It's like the one thing Tucker is right about. There are no middle class people in San Francisco, basically.

[D]

And the homeless crisis in the bay

[C]

is out of control. And, like, you would just have to drive around and you would notice it and it would be very noticeable. I didn't notice it in Marseille. That's all I'm saying.

[E]

Okay, thank you, Tom Freeman.

[C]

All right, Judge Jeanine could be on the chopping block. Have we lost a man yet from the administration? Only women, right?

[E]

Only women.

[C]

Tulsi Christie Paine.

[E]

Judge.

[C]

Judge Pirro, maybe. Maybe pirouetting out of the White House. The gist here is, well, actually, Sam, you lived this, so could you just

[D]

summarize really quick, what happened to Judge Jeanine, why she. Why he's under the ire.

[E]

Why not? So Judge Jeannie never knows her. Famous for facts. May, may or may not like a good glass of merlot before going on air. We don't know. She is now the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. And when the reflecting pool had a disastrous reopen opening under Trump, Donald Trump insisted that vandals were to blame. And our good judge decided she was going to take up the cause. And she had a press conference where she said, we found a vandal who cut all the 300ft slit in the reflecting pool. And we've got it on video. We got all the evidence where this indictment is rock solid. And, you know, and everyone's like, well, did he do with his hands? Like, what happened? Was it not an installation problem? Said, just come down, the grand jury's got it all. It is rock solid and blah, blah, blah. Anyways, over the weekend, she files motion to dismiss the lawsuit because it wasn't rock solid. It was clearly a installation issue, as they admitted in the lawsuit. And then they. On top of that, she threw the Department of Interior under the bus, saying they gave us insufficient information about what happened. They withheld information from my office. If we had known everything about the installation, we never would have brought this lawsuit. And that was a huge egg on the face of the administration. The president in particular, has been going crazy about this stuff and. And Trump is not going to just sit back and take it. So he then puts out a bleep and he's like, what the hell is Judge Jeanine talking about? This is definitely vandalism. What is she doing? I don't know why she said that. And then Doug Burgum, who heads the Interior Department, is like, yeah, this is not true. They have to do this play acting. JVL wrote about this. And she has to actually be, you know, accountable to the rule of law. And instead of just like reconciling this and being like, yeah, we got our wires crossed and whatever, now Trump's basically like, yeah, I'm not a big fan of Judge Jeanine anymore.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

CNN says he's furious with judge.

[E]

We've heard that before, though.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

Yeah, boy. Well, he gives an eight minute answer

[D]

when asked about her during this press conference.

[E]

Was it eight minutes?

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Yeah. We're not gonna play all eight, but we'll play a couple choice bites.

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Let's take a look.

[E]

Have you spoken to Jeanine Pirro about

[C]

her decision to drop?

[G]

No. Jeanine Pirro made a mistake. There was vandalism.

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And we got one other one. Let's watch that.

[G]

Then it got carried away because the judge was extremely unfriendly to Jeanine. And frankly, I think she choked.

[D]

Choked, Sam choked.

[E]

What a choker.

[D]

She choked.

[C]

Not like Donald Trump when he putts. He won his 92nd straight golf tournament over the weekend.

[D]

He doesn't choke on the. No gimmes for Trump. No shortage.

[C]

The whole thing. JBL's newsletter is really good.

[D]

People should go to thebullerg.com and read the Triad if they haven't signed up for that because your guy, Doug, I

[C]

mean, we had our cabinet rankings. I mean, we've been doing our cabinet. It's been a minute. It might be time to re up that here. He's moving up and he was always towards the top and here he is. They tried to ruin a man's life and we can joke about it. They tried to ruin a man's life, put him in jail for 10 years. The federal government was going after him based on lies. And now you have Doug Burgum from the Interior Department, like, who is still smearing him even after they lied about him, jailed him, handcuffed him.

[B]

It's.

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It's disgusting.

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And this is like what Trump does to people, right? Like, he. He just makes people into the worst versions of themselves, like Doug Burgum. Say what you will, he was like a successful businessman. He was a governor of a state, pretty highly regarded, ran for president. People took him seriously. He was never going to win, but people took him seriously. And like, he had a good reputation. You know, he employed lots of people. Again, he ran a state like he was doing serious stuff. And now he's reduced to this clown show prosecution and the beautification projects of Washington D.C. this is the interior Secretary. Like, his job is spent looking at golf course designs for East Potomac and like interior pool linings for the reflecting pool. Like, is that really the best use of Doug Burgum's life and time? Maybe. I mean, he's got power. He's a Cabinet official. He's in line for succession. That's great. Congrats. But, like, you know, it's ridiculous and you're absolutely right. Like, the real story here is that they ruined this guy's life. They threatened to jail him, they dragged him through the mud, they made him pay all these legal expenses for what? Because you couldn't tell Donald Trump, the friendly contractor that you had, who worked at some, you know, Trump property back in the day, couldn't handle the task of lining the reflecting pool. Because that's what happened. Can I, Can I try out a line, please? Judge. Judge Pirro. Like, Like a. Like a bottle of Pinot grige on a warm summer day needs to be put on ice or is being put on ice. How's that?

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That's pretty good.

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Trump seems ready.

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Later, he was asked about Lafayette park

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and dug in on her. I guess my final thought about this whole thing is like any other politician

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in this moment, when there are real

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problem states in the country, people have real concerns.

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You can imagine just what a panel on cable news would say about a Democratic politician who has this really off message.

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Imagine.

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You're the panelist. Yeah, I'm the host. You're the panelist. And this is a Democratic president doing this shit. And I say, Tim, what did you make of that? What would the Republican commenters say?

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Look, I think, look, working Americans are really struggling right now. And you would think that the President

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of the United States would have a message or a plan for them or

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some kind of focus on their everyday concerns. And instead, you know, he is out there, like, litigating personal vendettas and defending sexual abusers. It's just like, what? Like he has no message.

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He has no message at all.

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Tweeting, tweeting pictures of his wedge from 40 yards out. It's like, come on, man, what are you doing?

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Yes.

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Where else are you getting stuff like this? Nowhere.

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