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Tim Miller (0:30)
Hey, everybody, it's Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with Lauren Egan. It's a reporter writing about the Democrats and the opposition. And there was much opposition this weekend. On Saturday, there were 1300 hands off rallies of varying sizes across the country. Organizers estimated about 600,000 total participants for a nonpartisan estimate, the Atlanta police. So there were 20,000 in Atlanta. Gives you a sense for what's happening there. They're in big cities. In Boston, there's a big protests focused on Rumeza Ozturk, the tough student that's got swept off the street for not bed in Silva, North Carolina. Small town, North Carolina. 300 people came together to oppose the national parks cuts in the community. So it was all different types and just wanted to make sure we were covering it and getting a sense for what was out there. And so, Lauren, at the top, what did you make of what we saw this weekend?
Lauren Egan (1:23)
Yeah, I think, you know, one organizer texted me and said the opposition is, is alive and well and it's reentered the chat. I think there's been a lot of conversation about, like, where is everyone? Like, why are people not marching on the mall like we saw for the first Trump administration? So I think, you know, the, the anger is there, the energy is clearly there. I thought what was most interesting was not necessarily like the DC Rally because those rallies are always going to be, you know, you're always going to get people to turn out for those. But some of these, like, smaller cities, like, I think like 4,000 people turned out in Huntsville, Alabama, like 5,000 in Portland, Maine. That's kind of impressive. You know, places like, like Idaho, there was people out there protesting places where you are seeing, like, a lot of federal workers lose their jobs for. You mentioned Atlanta. That's an obvious one. So I think this past week, we've really seen just like this resurgence of energy and frustration and anger really bubble up into the public on the left.
Tim Miller (2:23)
Yeah, I think that's right. As re entered, the chat is about Right. I got into a little trouble with some of the commenters because Lovett and I were discussing this very frustration, like, on the pod. I forget if it was last week or two weeks ago, just kind of the lack of people in the streets, and we were talking about these upcoming protests. And the way I framed it then is it kind of felt like, you know, this was a first step to start incubating these things. Like, in 2017, there was just this, like, raw emotion. People were like, fuck this, and, like, we're in streets. And it was palpable. And like, this time, like, that, like, part of it hasn't really been it. Right, right. And so, to me, it felt like these rallies on Saturday were, like, you know, sticking the flag down and saying, we are here. We are going to fight this. We're not going to be scared of this. You know, it might take a little bit to, like, really, really build. And these are big crowds, but, you know, it's not like the massive crowds that you see in, like, Serbia or, like, lately in some of these places where, you know that. Where people, like, feel very acute about the threats to their rights. But it is the kind of thing that's like, okay, we can. We can build for this. That was at least my sense. Does that feel.