Oh God, ANOTHER Racist GOP Group Chat Leaked

Summary

Bulwark Takes | March 6, 2026

Oh God, ANOTHER Racist GOP Group Chat Leaked

Host: Tim Miller
Guest: Will Sommer (author, False Flag newsletter)

---

Episode Overview

In this dynamic episode, Tim Miller and Will Sommer delve into the wild week of MAGA infighting, bizarre scandals, and fresh controversies roiling the right-wing media ecosystem. The main theme revolves around a newly leaked racist Young Republican group chat, but the conversation covers a smorgasbord of right-wing drama: from a Tucker Carlson vs. Laura Loomer feud, to Candace Owens’ spiraling conspiracy theories, hyper-masculine nicotine pouches, grifting gold IRAs, and the banishment of a GOP gubernatorial candidate from Waffle House.

Miller and Sommer maintain their signature mix of biting wit and incredulity, unpacking the deeper implications and absurdities found at the intersection of young conservatism, online grifters, and the burgeoning MAGA media world.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tucker Carlson vs. Laura Loomer Feud and the ALP Nicotine Heist

[00:45 – 04:06]

• Tucker Carlson’s New Business: Carlson launches a nicotine pouch company called “ALP,” marketed as a macho alternative to Zyn.
  • Sommer quips: “This really is kind of like a fast and furious truck hijacking situation.” (01:57)
• The Drifter Truck Heist: A truck carrying 400,000 tins of Carlson’s new “Drifter” pouches is stolen in California—“Supposedly it was worth millions of dollars.” (04:06)
• Laura Loomer’s Schadenfreude: Loomer mocks Carlson over the theft (“Tucker, Tucker Carlson”), amid their spiraling feud over Israel.
• Deeper Feud: The battle symbolizes the growing rift between MAGA’s anti-semitism-curious, paleocon wing (Carlson) and the hardcore, pro-Israel Trump loyalists (Loomer).
  • “This is pretty much just a proxy fight between, like, the MAGA anti-Semitism curious wing and the MAGA pro-Israel wing.” — Tim Miller (02:57)
• Loomer’s Regulatory Attacks: She tries to sabotage ALP’s FDA approval with complaints about missing nicotine warnings in social media ads and accuses ALP of mocking her gender and image for marketing purposes.
  • “They’ll say discount code Larry Loomer, which the implication is that Laura is transgender.” — Will Sommer (05:22)

2. The Right’s Gold Grift and Tucker’s “Honest” Gold IRA

[06:48 – 08:26]

• Grifter Economics: A staple of the right-wing media business—selling gold IRAs to retirees at massive markups.
• Tucker’s Outsider Pose: Carlson claims he turned down a $20 million endorsement offer and now calls out others, including Loomer, for misleading their audience.
  • “He says it’s the Honest Gold Company... now he’s taking aim at people like Laura and essentially saying... they’re tricking their audience into buying gold that is really way too expensive.” — Will Sommer (07:51)
• Cynicism of Conservative Commerce: Tim remarks on the circular firing squad of grifters exposing each other for fraud, all while selling dubious products.

3. Tucker Carlson’s Evolving Public Brand

[08:26 – 09:35]

• New Storefront Shtick: Tucker leans into self-aware, meme-laden merchandise with slogans like “Nation building is gay,” “Neocons are gay (for Israel),” and “Psyop critic.”
  • “What is that? He’s like, what is that? Seriously?” — Tim Miller (08:53)
  • Will finds dark amusement: “I kind of like the psyop one. It’s like, what, Psyop disrespect or something?” (09:25)
• Shift in Persona: They joke that Carlson is fashioning himself into an Alex Jones-type archetype, weaponizing trollish irony and culture war branding.

4. The Leaked “Gooning in Agartha” Young Republican Group Chat

[10:05 – 14:40]

• Explanation of “Gooning” and “Agartha”: The group chat’s name references an extreme masturbation subculture combined with Nazi-adjacent esoterica.
  • Will: “Gooning is sort of a very intense form of masturbation... Agartha is a sort of mystical imagination of, like, a Hitlerian fantasy world where, like, everyone’s white.” (10:36–10:57)
  • “So it’s kind of like, you know, what was it? You have all the virgins, you know, for the radical Islamists... This is kind of like that, but for the white nationalists.” — Tim Miller (11:24)
• Irony and Racism: Despite the Nazi-fantasy branding, the group is composed mainly of Latino young Republicans.
  • “The irony here is I don’t think there were any white nationalists in this chat.” — Will Sommer (11:39)
• Content of Leak: Endless racist posts (N-word, violence, anti-Jewish talk), creating shockwaves even among black Republican Trump supporters.
  • “Insanely racist. I mean, tons of N word. Tons of like, just really like, talk about violence.” — Will Sommer (12:31)
  • “If I was a black parent... I’m not thrilled to see people talking about, like, murdering black children.” — Paraphrasing Black Hannity, a black right-wing activist (13:17)
• Larger Implication: Even “rising stars” in the Florida GOP are implicated in the endemic bigotry, and the base is not as white as the rhetoric often suggests.

5. James Fishback: Banished from Waffle House

[14:40 – 15:43]

• Fishback’s Campaign Tactics: Struggling Florida GOP gubernatorial candidate, young favorite, holds events in Starbucks and Waffle House—only to be banned from both.
  • “He claims he’s been criminally trespassed from every Waffle House.... if you come back here it’s going to be a crime.” — Will Sommer (14:59)
• Symbol of Conservative Counterculture: Highlights the disruption of traditional “third spaces” and the oddball subcultures of new right-wing activism.

6. Candace Owens’ Deep State/Mossad Conspiracy Theories

[15:43 – 23:42]

• Candace's Stringboard: Owens, in a series of documentaries, alleges a vast international conspiracy orchestrated by Mossad and the French Foreign Legion to murder Charlie Kirk, with his wife Erica supposedly complicit.
  • “Erica Kirk and the Mossad and the French legionnaires collaborated together to murder Charlie as part of a decades long plot of the deep state and foreign deep states, for that matter.” — Tim Miller (15:52)
• Absurd Evidence: Investigated “suspicious” details—like errors on a birth certificate, costumes, or travel teams’ basketball routes—as grains of proof.
  • “So it’s possible that this basketball travel team was a front story for foreign adventurism.” — Tim Miller (21:14)
• Grain of Sarcasm: The hosts mock the Rube Goldberg-ness of the plot.
  • “It is kind of interesting that the plan here would have been to…find a woman when she was a young child in a bee costume, recruit her, mold her over decades, have her marry a person…then wait for just the right moment to have her give a tip off to a Mormon boy... It’s a little complex, you know.” — Tim Miller (22:18)
• Underlying Motive: Candace seizes on posthumous revelations that Kirk observed Shabbat and had pro-Jewish affiliations, which infuriates her and helps fuel her conspiracies.
  • “This obviously was kind of shocking to the extremely anti Semitic Candace Owens…” — Will Sommer (18:17)
• Sectarian Fallout: Even Kirk’s death has created sectarian divides among right wing types: “Charlie Kirk’s legacy is now spinning off into kind of like a sectarian fight between the Shia and the Sunni TPUSA followers…” — Tim Miller (18:59)

7. Final Notes and Will Sommer’s Ongoing Scoops

[24:01 – 24:45]

• Tim encourages listeners to follow Will’s work: “Subscribe to the False Flag newsletter... Let us know if you’re seeing anything out there... Will Sommer is interested in your tips.”
• Will’s investigative philosophy: “I just got duped by someone who said he had a Candace thing for me... You know, I got to look like a fool sometimes to get the scoop, so I’m happy to do it.” (24:27)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the ALP Heist and Carlson-Loomer Feud:
  • “This is pretty much just a proxy fight between, like, the MAGA anti-Semitism curious wing and the MAGA pro-Israel wing.” — Tim Miller (02:57)
• On the Gooning in Agartha Chat:
  • “Gooning is sort of a very intense form of masturbation… Agartha is a sort of mystical imagination of, like, a Hitlerian fantasy world where, like, everyone’s white.” — Will Sommer (10:37)
  • “The irony here is I don’t think there were any white nationalists in this chat.” — Will Sommer (11:39)
• On Candace Owens’ Conspiracy Theories:
  • “It is kind of interesting that the plan here would have been to…find a woman when she was a young child in a bee costume, recruit her, mold her over decades, have her marry a person…then wait for just the right moment to have her give a tip off to a Mormon boy... It’s a little complex, you know.” — Tim Miller (22:18)
• On Gold IRA Grifts:
  • “Tucker claims that he was offered $20 million to endorse a gold IRA. And he said, wait a minute, how do they have all this money to splash out if they’re essentially trading a commodity?” — Will Sommer (07:51)
• On Conservative Meme Merch:
  • “Nation building is gay. That feels like an attack on Pete Hegseth. Neocons are gay. Underneath that, for Israel. Subtle APAC. An offer you can’t refuse. Psyop critic. What is that?” — Tim Miller (08:53)
• On Reporting:
  • “I got to look like a fool sometimes to get the scoop, so I’m happy to do it.” — Will Sommer (24:27)

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:45] – Show begins, intro to Will Sommer’s work and the ALP truck heist
• [02:35] – The Carlson/Loomer feud over Israel and anti-Semitism
• [05:04] – Loomer’s regulatory attempts to sabotage ALP
• [06:48] – Gold IRA grifts and Tucker’s “Honest Gold Company”
• [08:26] – Tucker Carlson Network’s new meme merch and ironic branding
• [10:05] – “Gooning in Agartha” racist group chat leak
• [12:31] – The chat’s participants and impact in Florida GOP circles
• [14:40] – James Fishback banned from Waffle House
• [15:43] – Candace Owens’ deep-state conspiracy docuseries
• [18:08] – Erika Kirk and Shabbat, Candace’s narrative, and Kirk’s legacy divide
• [23:42] – Discussion on the plausibility of Candace’s conspiracy
• [24:01] – Closing notes; Will on sourcing and scoops

---

Summary

Bulwark Takes injects trademark irreverence and sharp analysis into another week of MAGA mishaps and right-wing absurdities. Will Sommer’s reporting spotlights not just the action and infighting—spanning racist group leaks, new grifts, and eccentric campaigns—but the underlying ironies and mutations shaping today’s right-wing media and activism. With tensions high and antics ever stranger, this episode is a must-listen for anyone tracking the surreal world of post-Trump conservatism.

Transcript

[VRBO Advertiser]

Early birds. Always rise to the occasion for summer vacation planning because early gets you closer to the action. So don't be late. Book your next vacation early on VRBO and save over $120. Rise and shine average savings $141. Select homes only day or night.

[VRBO Care Representative]

VRBO care is here 24. 7 to help make every part of your stay seamless. If anything comes up or you simply need a little guidance, support is ready whenever you reach out. From the moment you book to the moment you head home. We're here to help things run smoothly because a great trip starts with the right support. And hey, a good playlist doesn't hurt either.

[Tim Miller]

Hey everybody. Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with my colleague Will Sommer, author of the False Flag newsletter. And he's like on a generational run this week. I don't know what to tell you. His X Twitter feed last night was making me laugh with a bunch of different crazy stories happening in the right. I guess you have a lot of fodder to work with, a lot happening in the maga world these days. And so we're definitely going to do Candace, because I just, I can't help myself, okay? I just, I can't. I just, I need to consume more. Candace. Death of Charlie. But we also have your newsletter about a fight between Laura Loomer and Tucker Carlson and some other, some other maybe bonus goodies. We'll see how it goes. But why don't I do this, actually? I'm going to read people the lead. You know, the term of art in journalism, you know, to have to have a good lead paragraph and lead sentence. You want to draw the reader in. Hijackers in California late last month, made off of the truck filled with nearly 400,000 limited edition tins of ALP, the nicotine pouch brand founded by Tucker Carlson. The theft may have left Carlson fans jonesing for their tropical favorite extra high dose of nicotine, but it pleased at least one luminary of the Magus field. Talk to us about what happens, what's happening there.

[Will Sommer]

Sure. So look, I mean, Tucker Carlson has a nicotine pouch company called alp. I mean, this really is kind of like a fast and furious truck hijacking situation. They were coming out with a new flavor called Drifter, and it was going to be extra nicotine and extra flavor. And someone in California made off with the truck. Enter Laura Loomer, who is only too happy to see her enemy Tucker Carlson suffer. And she says, oh, what a tough week for Tucker. It's so Tough to be Tucker, or as she calls him, Tucker, Tucker Carlson. So I use this kind of look at the broader feud between them, which is getting really ugly and starting to affect. They're kind of taking aim at each other's bank accounts, which is kind of a line you don't always cross in right wing media.

[Tim Miller]

And their feud is over Israel.

[Will Sommer]

Yeah, it's over Israel. You know, Laura wants, you know, maximal Trump support for Israel. Tucker has aligned himself with places like Qatar. I mean, he's also now he's suggesting that specific Jewish groups outside of Israel, you know, caused the Iran war. He's very into the kind of this puppet master, you know, anti Semitism.

[Tim Miller]

Got it. So I just, like, there's no other, you know, this is not like a scorned lover situation, you know, or there's nothing else behind the scenes. As we just think about the players here, this is pretty much just a proxy fight between like the MAGA anti Semitism curious wing and the MAGA pro Israel wing.

[Will Sommer]

Yeah, kind of the, the extreme hawks, I mean, is, you know, Laura hates Muslims. Tucker seemed to, you know, kind of soften on Muslims and they're kind of fighting over this. But, but obviously in the run up to the war and then now the war itself, you know, things, the stakes have gotten even higher.

[Tim Miller]

Now I've got to ask you the obvious subtext question to this, which is, do we think that Israel was involved in the hijack?

[Will Sommer]

Well, they haven't caught the thieves. ALP has put out $100,000 bounty. They say they want these thieves caught. They say if you see cans of Alp Drifter floating around your neighborhood, your bodega, you know, give them a call because they want to crack down on this kind of stuff. Supposedly it was worth millions of dollars.

[Tim Miller]

So. Yeah, And Tucker pitches. This is like the more masculine version of Zinn.

[Carvana Advertiser]

Anyone who loves Zen and I asked

[Will Sommer]

them to try out, it's like, oh, my God.

[Tim Miller]

He's made some jokes recently about how Zen users put their nicotine pouches up their butt. Well, as his very masculine users have extra nicotine and you know, like a real man, they put the pouch in their lip.

[Will Sommer]

Simply an oral fixation. Nothing gay.

[Tim Miller]

Nothing gay.

[Will Sommer]

More masculine.

[Tim Miller]

Nothing gay happening here. Okay, well, do we have any? But there are no theories out there on what's happening with the hijacking, whether that there's a political or just a financial incentive.

[Will Sommer]

So supposedly the thieves used a forged identification card. So, you know, was it an issue at the truck depot?

[Tim Miller]

Depot?

[Will Sommer]

Was it an Alp inside job. I mean, I don't think there's necessarily evidence of that, but. But there is a little more intrigue. You know, it's not like someone just came up with a gun. So it, you know, it seems like there's a bit of a ruse that took place.

[Tim Miller]

So Laura's gone after alp, and in addition, I guess to this supporting this hijacking, has, like, literally tried to go after them through the regulatory elements of her relationships. I was about to say assets with her friends inside the Trump White House, trying to get them to create regulatory challenges for the. For the pouch.

[Will Sommer]

That's right. So ALP is going through an FDA approval, and the Trump administration, I didn't know this, but they created a sort of accelerated approval for nicotine products. You know, they took over. They said, we gotta get more of these pouches on the market. And so ALP is still going through that. Laura is trying to kind of mess that up for them somehow, or maybe delay it. She filed a complaint saying they aren't in their social media posts, they aren't including warning labels for nicotine, which would violate the rules. And. And they have a pretty crazy social media presence at ALP, where they'll say things like, you know, RFK Jr. And Cash Patel, like, they love their ALP, and so they're kind of making it look like it's an endorsement. And then the real thing is, I mean, they really go after Laura Loomer. I mean, I think it's typically, you don't have a tobacco company kind of specifically targeting individuals, but they'll say discount code, Larry Loomer, which the implication is that Laura is transgender. And they'll post pictures of Laura and they'll say, you know, look at this loser. But everyone cool is at a party eating Alpine, and she's. And she's looking in from the window. So she's claiming that they're abusing their rights of publicity and sort of stealing her image to sell their tobacco or their nicotine.

[Tim Miller]

Got it. I don't think that, you know, we need to be waiting with bated breath for whether the Tucker Carlson pouch gets approved by the Trump administration. Feels like that's. That's going to be a pretty smooth effort, but good luck to Laura on that front. Tucker is shooting back also, though, going after products that Laura is endorsing.

[Will Sommer]

That's right. This is interesting. And I mean, this is kind of like even a broader effort to take on, to sort of set himself up as like, the only honest man in conservative media. He's going after these gold IRA companies where people can invest their retirement savings in like, gold coins.

[Carvana Advertiser]

Much of the gold IRA business is not actually about selling gold at all. It's about selling massively marked up coins to people who trust the voices delivering the pitch.

[Will Sommer]

As you know, I mean, and this has been like the lifeblood economically for a lot of these right wing pundits. People like Mike Huckabee, Mark Levin, Laura Loomer's in the game now as well.

[Tim Miller]

In a weird way. It's, you know, gold. If you're in gold and the market's been doing well recently in part because of the way in which Donald Trump's destabilized thing, I think that's an accident.

[Will Sommer]

But he's not trying to get a payoff for people like Mike Huckabee.

[Tim Miller]

But.

[Will Sommer]

Well, this is kind of where it gets interesting, which is that these companies, they kind of, they do some ruses. So it's not like you're buying gold on a more traditional gold marketplace and they're sending you the gold bars. You have to sound like you're in

[Tim Miller]

your Charles Schwab account, you know, where you have a credible, you know, counterparty.

[Will Sommer]

Exactly. I mean, in his case, Tucker claims that he was offered $20 million to endorse a gold IRA. And he said, wait a minute, how do they have all this money to splash out if they're essentially trading a commodity? They should be taking just kind of a tiny, like, transaction slice. Well, as it turns out, a lot of these companies have been sued for various schemes. They sell them to retirees at huge markups. Now Tucker, he has his own gold company. He says it's the Honest Gold Company. And now he's taking aim at people like Laura and essentially saying, like, you know, they've sold you guys out. They're tricking their audience into buying these gold that is really way too expensive or you can't really liquidate it.

[Tim Miller]

Okay, well, we'll continue to monitor that. I don't, I think unrelated, this might be maybe an area, well, partially an area of rapprochement between Loomer and Tucker. Have you seen the Tucker Carlson Network has updated their store. We're working on updating our store as well to give you guys great stuff like capitalist wing of antifa and potato boys merch and wokebill crystal merch. Tucker has updated his store. Did you catch this?

[Will Sommer]

Yes, I have.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. Why don't we put up some of these on the screen here? Nation building is gay. That feels like an attack on Pete Hegseth. Neocons are gay. Underneath that, for Israel. Subtle apac. An offer you can't refuse. Psyop critic. What is that? It's kind of like the Chandler Bing version of Tucker. I think it's going to talk about. He's like, what is that? Seriously? Really? Any other thoughts on the. On the Tucker Carlson story? It seems like he's leaning in, I guess, to just being the new Alex Jones.

[Will Sommer]

I kind of like the psyop one. It's like, what, Psyop disrespect or something?

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, Psyop critic.

[Will Sommer]

I could wear that. I try to criticize the psyops as I see them around me.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, I don't think we'd want to support his store, but. Yeah, because I'm with you. And I was kind of. I was kind of interested in nation building as gay. Like, kind of adding an exclamation point at the end. But anyway. Okay, a couple of other things out there that you've been posting about. Which one should we do? What's the most fun dealer's choice? Do you think that we should talk about Gooning and Agartha or Tony Gonzalez or the. Or the getting banned from Waffle House?

[Will Sommer]

Well, you know, why don't we do Gooning and Agartha?

[Tim Miller]

Okay. This was the one I locked in on the least, so I'm gonna let you cook on it. Essentially, it was a Young Republican group chat. You'll be surprised to learn there was some racism in there. The group chat name was Gooning in Agartha. Tell us about what that name is and what we're seeing in the chat. Yeah.

[Will Sommer]

Before we launch in, let's just explain what gooning is. And again, this is gonna get a little adult.

[Tim Miller]

Our viewers know about gooning, don't they? Well, maybe not.

[Will Sommer]

I mean, gooning is sort of a very intense form of masturbation where, you know, you. You kind of like. Or so I'm told, you surround your. You know, you kind of, like, lock in for hours at a time. And that's what gooning is.

[Tim Miller]

You kind of, like, unlock your jaw to, like, your tongue is hanging out.

[Will Sommer]

Yeah, You're. You're sort of. You're like, so, like, dopamine flooded.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[Will Sommer]

And so that's sort of a neologism. And Agartha is a sort of mystical imagination of, like, a Hitlerian fantasy world where, like, everyone's white. It's, like, kind of like esoteric and occult. It's kind of like what the Nazis in Indiana Jones might have Been looking for.

[Tim Miller]

So it's like kind of like tense white nationalist masturbation.

[Will Sommer]

Exactly. I'm in my kind of like white nationalist, like, Tibetan paradise. Gooning.

[Tim Miller]

Got it. So, yeah, so it's kind of like, you know, what was it? You have all the virgins, you know, for the radical Islamists, like when they die, they go to a place, you know, with whatever the number was. 10,000 virgins. This is kind of like that, but for the white nationalists. Gooning. And a girl. Yeah.

[Will Sommer]

And of course, the irony here is I don't think there were any white nationalists in this chat.

[Tim Miller]

Ah, interesting. Tell me more.

[VRBO Advertiser]

Early birds always rise to the occasion for summer vacation planning because early gets you closer to the action. So don't be late. Book your next vacation early on VRBO and save over $120. Rise and shine. Average savings $141. Select homes only.

[Carvana Advertiser]

Hey, Sal. Hank. What's going on? We haven't worked a case in years. I just bought my car at Carvana and it was so easy. Too easy. Think something's up? You tell me. They got thousands of options, found a great car at a great price, and it got delivered the next day. It sounds like Carvana just makes it easy to buy your car, Hank. Yeah, you're right. Case closed.

[Erica Kirk (voice clip)]

Buy your car today on Carvana. Delivery fees may apply.

[Tim Miller]

Yes.

[Will Sommer]

So this was a chat that included the GOP Miami, the. The secretary. So the officer there in that club, the Turning Point USA chapter president, I think Florida International University. So, like, a lot of kind of like up and coming GOP operative types, all of whom I believe were Latino, certainly a majority of them. And on Wednesday, the website called the Floridian published these chat. These chats that they were having. And really, like, insanely racist. I mean, tons of N word. Tons of like, just really like, talk about violence. I've heard from some. Some black Republicans or I've seen them on Twitter, people who are otherwise very pro Trump, and they're kind of just like shocked by how various white Republicans are reacting to this coming out.

[Tim Miller]

There's gambling going on in the casino. Yeah, yeah, guys.

[Will Sommer]

I mean, I saw. I saw a guy named Black Hannity, as is kind of his Alia, sort of a former James o' Keeffe affiliate. And someone was saying like, lol at this stuff. And this guy was like, you know, if I was a black parent, I wouldn't. Or he's like, I am, you know, I'm not thrilled to see people talking about, like, murdering black children. I mean, it's crazy stuff. And this is the sort of the up and comers in the Florida gop. So I think, you know, and again they're talking about Gooning and Agartha. It's a big mess for them.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, I'm just reading a little bit more here. You're talking about wanting to live in a place without Jews. You say that they weren't white nationalists. You don't mean that in the sense that they weren't literally white nationalists. You mean that like it's a lot of Latinos because it's South Florida.

[Will Sommer]

Yes, I think there are Latinos who maybe espouse white nationalism.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, got it. Okay. Hitler's dream. Do you ever see the. There's a pretty good, what's it called? The Hitler meme. The movie Downfall is a downfall. And in this version of the Downfall spoof, people are telling the leader that, you know, his biggest fans in the future are, you know, Muslims like Andrew Tate and like gay Mexican incels like Nick Fuentes and you know, kind of similar. I do think Hitler would be kind of disappointed in the people that have taken.

[Will Sommer]

I think that was after the Miami Hail Hitler thing featuring Clavicular and the gang.

[Tim Miller]

Yes, exactly. While we're in Florida, just really quick, we should mention the Republican gubernatorial candidate, James Fishback, who's losing badly in the polls except for notably among 18 to 34 year old Republicans. Where he's winning gives you a sense of where things are going in this country. He has been banned from Waffle House. Why?

[Will Sommer]

I mean this is the decline of third spaces in this country. You know, I mean James Fishback, as you said, he doesn't have a lot of money in his campaign and so he's doing things like he went to the, some Starbucks at Disney World and he got kicked out there to do these campaign events and then he went on a Waffle House tour. So he was going to go to every Waffle House in Florida, Florida and meet with his legions of groiper fans. This came out because he put out a statement saying sort of regarding my ban from Waffle House, which is never the kind of thing you want have to put out as a candidate. He claims he's been criminally trespassed from every Waffle House. So they said, you know, if you come back here it's going to be a crime. I asked Waffle House about this because I suspect James may not be giving us all the details and I haven't heard back yet.

[Tim Miller]

Well, I wait anxiously for that report and to our viewers as soon as we know why James Fishback has been banned from Waffle House, we'll make sure to let you know. We'll keep on that story. All right, I want to go to Candace. We did a video. Folks can go see that if they want. About the first installment of Candace's documentary. The trio did looking into her theory that Erica Kirk and the Mossad and the French legionnaires collaborated together to murder Charlie as part of a decades long plot of the deep state and foreign deep states, for that matter. Kind of globalist, new world order Deep state, if you will. So we watched the first video together. Not a lot of evidence, I wouldn't say. There's some interesting data points. Maybe an error on her birth certificate. She once dressed as a bee. That was suspicious. Her parents said they got married in a city, but we don't have any documentation that that marriage happened in that city. And it also happened to be a city where there was a military base. That's suspicious. A great grandmother seemed to be in the gambling game. Something you wonder if it's a family thing. So that's what we Learned in installment 1. What installment are we on now? I've lost track.

[Will Sommer]

I believe six episodes have come out and still she hasn't. She hasn't quite proven her case, I would say.

[Tim Miller]

Okay, we just wanted to pick. Just. I'm going in blind. Unfortunately, I'm busy and so I've not been able to watch installments 2 through 5 of Bride of Charlie. But let's just kind of check in on her. Let's. Let's see where she's at now.

[Erica Kirk (voice clip)]

So Charlie was removed, and in his place we got a Shabbat Shaloman not so grieving widow. This is the book my Charlie wanted you to read. He just finished it. He loves the Jews. He just finished speaking about how much he loves to Shabbat into shalom and to say daddy's home. And to throw down his phone. Barry Weiss. It's just incredible when you think about it all. Turning Point makes people think that it's Charlie's legacy. It's not. They should rename the company. They should rename it Shabbat Shalom. Shabbat Shalom usa. And that would be a better representation of its new leadership.

[Tim Miller]

Okay, so I guess this is related to you. Tell me. The fact that Erica was saying that Charlie would say Shabbat Shalom to her at times. Yeah.

[Will Sommer]

So after the assassination, a couple months later, they came out posthumously with a book he had written about observing the Jewish Shabbat and so essentially, as you said, Eric, I believe in her Bari Weiss interview talked about how, you know, he would come home on a Friday and say, oh, what a crazy week. I'm putting my phone down for a day and, you know, sort of practicing the Jewish Shabbat like that. This obviously was kind of shocking to the extremely anti Semitic Candace Owens, who now sees the Charlie Kirk legacy, you know, this attempt to sort of make it more look, look more pro Jewish. And this is sort of really irritated Candace and you can see what she's referencing there.

[Tim Miller]

I saw a tweet that I enjoyed about this, which is that Charlie Kirk's legacy is now spinning off into kind of like a sectarian fight between the Shia and the Sunni TPUSA followers where some are aligning behind the family legacy and Erika, whereas others are lining behind the popular front. And Candace. So that's interesting at least there's one other that I've saw on social media. I guess the additional data point here that we have is that Candace thinks that Erica is misrepresenting the degree to which Charlie had an affinity for Israel and the Jewish people and the Jewish faith. Is that a motive for murder?

[Grainger Advertiser]

I don't know.

[Tim Miller]

I guess that's up for other people to interpret. Doesn't seem like it to me. But, but like I said, she's presented some other things. It's not like a, it's not a clear eyed message. I just want to play this one other clip.

[Erica Kirk (voice clip)]

This is again, this is Erica speaking. She says, quote, winslow has so much character. We love stopping here. And then the writer continues. She and her family have come through Winslow many times on their way to basketball games around the state that she plays in. The email we received came from a very credible person. I will leave it at that. I'm going to protect this person's identity. They said that is bs. That is bs. They explained to me something I didn't know. Maybe you did. But in the state of Arizona, 80% of the population lives in Maricopa County. And the person went on to say, I'm very familiar with basketball. I can tell you that at most, because of the way that they structured doing teams and traveling teams, Erica would at most, if she played for all, all four years of high school, because Winslow is located three hours, three hours outside of Scottsdale, she would have only gone to Winslow two times. So this is just. Her mother is involved in this immediately flagging this as weird. How did she get involved with this hospital elsewhere? She says that she also loves to do charity work abroad. That would imply Erica has already been abroad, Right? She's already been abroad. So was she with Laurie? Did Laurie and her travel to do some stuff with the military? It's a fair assumption, or it's a fair question rather.

[Tim Miller]

So there you go, Will. In this case, the other piece of evidence that Candace has is that Erica and her mother talked about how on the travel basketball team they went through this town. But Candace has sources that played girls basketball in Arizona and they say that really at most it would have went through the town two times. So it's possible that this basketball travel team was a front story for foreign adventurism. It's maybe where Erica was tapped by the French or the Israelis, you know, for this long con against Charlie. What do you think of that idea?

[Will Sommer]

Well, I'm not so sure about that one. You know, I, I think this is kind of her explanation for a lot of these discrepancies. You know, whether it's the parents divorce record or something, she kind of leaves it hanging out there. It's like we're creating this missing time period where Erica went to Mossad camp. What happened? If I was the Mossad, if I was the French Foreign Legion running a decades long scheme, I'm not sure Erica Kirk would have been the person I would recruit to it as a baby. But you know, then that, that's.

[Tim Miller]

It does also make you wonder, you know, and if the Mossad is as good as everybody says they are and like, you know, look at them like you got, you got to hand it to them, at least judging on military performance. I mean, the pager play against Hezbollah, very deft, you know, a plan that was very successful, decapitating all of the Iranian leaders. And it's like they've broken into the Iranian communication system. Like the Israel military kind of knows where these people are and are able to take them out, given, you know, the capabilities that they have. It is kind of interesting that the plan here would have been to, you know, find a woman when she was a young child in a bee costume, recruit her, mold her over decades, have her marry a person that in the future you didn't even know who your target would be. Find, you know, find this person, marry them, sigh. Have him sire two children with her, and then wait for the, just the right moment to have her give a tip off to a Mormon boy who comes up from the underground of a university that her in laws have relationships to, to shoot him. It's a little complex, you know.

[Will Sommer]

Well then there's the B. Cult. It's a lot of moving pieces.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, it's a lot of moving pieces. I'm just saying it feels to me like there might have been easier ways for Mossad to do this if Charlie Kirk was what they were going for. One man's opinion. Okay. Will Summer, anything else? What else are you monitoring? Anything else? People to look forward to? Any teasers?

[Will Sommer]

I mean, I. I think there might be some more fishback coming soon. You know, some more. Some more insights there. There's a lot going on, you know, I. As you said, I mean, there's no shortage of stuff to write about.

[Tim Miller]

All right, we appreciate you. So, everybody, subscribe to the False Flag newsletter@the bulwark.com subscribe to us right here on YouTube. Comment. Let us know if you're seeing anything out there. You take tips. You never know. Will Summers, Will Summer is interested in your tips about things that are happening in your community. Do you see any?

[Will Sommer]

I know. I just got duped by someone who said he. He had a Candace thing for me, and I said, all right, send it over. And he said, candace, you know, dick fit in here or whatever, you know, he boom, roasted. I know, but you know what? I got to look like a fool sometimes to get the scoop, so I'm happy to do it.

[Tim Miller]

Comment your scoops. Appreciate you all. We'll see you soon. Bye.

[Grainger Advertiser]

If you're a maintenance supervisor at a manufacturing facility and your machinery isn't working right, Grainger knows you need to understand what's wrong as soon as possible. So when a conveyor motor falters, Grainger offers diagnostic tools like calibration kits and multimeters to help you identify and fix the problem. With Grainger, you can be confident you have everything you need to keep your facility running smoothly. Call 1-800-GRAINGER clickgranger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.

[VRBO Care Representative]

With VRBoCare, help is always ready before, during, and after your stay. We've planned for the plot twists, so support is always available because a great trip starts with peace of mind.