RFK Jr. Is the Biggest Public-Health Threat in U.S. History (w/ Sam Kass)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bulwark Takes

Episode Title: RFK Jr. Is the Biggest Public-Health Threat in U.S. History (w/ Sam Kass)
Date: November 7, 2025
Host: Jonathan Cohn (The Bulwark)
Guest: Sam Kass (Former White House Chef & Senior Policy Advisor on Nutrition)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s approach to food policy and public health, exploring both the substance and the rhetoric of his administration’s efforts. Former White House Chef and policy expert Sam Kass joins host Jonathan Cohn to discuss the intersection of food, politics, and public health—unpacking the true stakes and contrasting the Obama-era agenda with current trends. Kass also addresses RFK Jr.'s critiques, the wave of diet-related conspiracies, and the existential risks climate change poses to our food system.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sam Kass: From Baseball to Food Policy

(02:00–04:00)

• Sam Kass shares his unconventional journey, starting as a college baseball player with major league ambitions and pivoting to the culinary world.
• He emphasizes the formative experience of working in professional kitchens and his awakening to food systems' impact on health and the environment.

"I started realizing how much our food system was undermining our health and also starting to undermine and erode planetary health."
— Sam Kass (04:07)

2. The Obama Food Agenda and Its Challenges

(05:35–10:00)

• Kass explains the Obama administration’s focus on children's health, noting both the rationale (largest impact on starting young, politically palatable) and the practicalities of shifting food environments.
• The agenda aimed for both greater public awareness and systemic change, but faced entrenched industry and political resistance.

"We were trying to transform the health of the nation...you'll have the biggest impact the younger you start in terms of trying to improve people's health..."
— Sam Kass (05:53)

• Host Cohn raises the surprising extent of GOP backlash, with Kass recalling cultural pushback and political battles over seemingly simple proposals like school nutrition.

"Sarah Palin was passing out cookies and saying get the nanny state out of our house. Michelle Obama, like, you have no business telling us what to eat."
— Sam Kass (09:55)

3. RFK Jr.'s Food Platform: Substance vs. Rhetoric

(11:45–14:00)

• Kass acknowledges that RFK Jr.’s critique of the American food environment (over-processed foods, health consequences) is not new and, in itself, credible.
• However, Kass draws a sharp distinction between valid criticism and RFK Jr.'s conspiratorial spin or focus on “symbolic” issues.

"The critique is largely one that I agree with...After that point, it all falls apart, like, dramatically."
— Sam Kass (12:23, 13:46)

• The administration’s highly-publicized efforts around food dyes and seed oils are described as missing the point—more about optics than real change.

"Fruit Loops with food dyes. Fruit Loops without food dyes is still not something you probably should be feeding your kids...It is—there's still Fruit Loops."
— Sam Kass (14:20)

• Kass specifically debunks the demonization of seed oils and the influencer-driven “fear based ecosystem” around these ingredients.

"Seed oils are not dangerous. In fact, they are...better than saturated fat."
— Sam Kass (14:50)

• He criticizes the administration for promoting misleading health ideas, such as praising beef tallow-fried fast food, which moves public health backwards.

4. Erosion of Public Health Institutions

(14:55–16:50)

• Kass asserts that behind symbolic policies, RFK Jr.'s administration is dismantling core public health and regulatory agencies (CDC, FDA, NIH, USDA), undermining the capacity to support real improvements.
• He warns that this dual-track (“look over here” rhetoric while gutting institutions) is unprecedentedly dangerous.

"He is unequivocally the biggest threat to public health the United States has ever faced."
— Sam Kass (17:09)

• The food agenda acts as a fig leaf to draw in concerned parents—especially suburban moms—even as deeper harms are being done.

5. Nutrition Assistance: SNAP Cuts and Standards

(17:40–20:10)

• The conversation turns to cuts in SNAP (food assistance), which contradict purported improvements in nutritional standards.
• Kass lays out the trap: nominal improvements in standards are used as cover to restrict and cut benefits, rather than meaningfully support healthy choices for the poor.

"You can only do that, however, if you are meaningfully increasing the benefit. Because right now it's simply nowhere near enough money to buy healthy food."
— Sam Kass (18:38)

• For Kass, these are classic austerity moves that ultimately harm vulnerable populations.

6. The Bigger Picture: Food, Climate, and the Future

(20:11–24:00)

• Looking forward, Kass outlines the grave threats climate change poses to food security and national stability—affecting everything from beloved foods to commodity crops that billions depend on.

"Many of the foods we love and hold dear...are really under threat and may not be available, at least at a price point that most people can afford in our lifetimes."
— Sam Kass (20:39)

• The administration's rollback of climate and agricultural policies exacerbates these risks, endangering the well-being and culture of future generations.

"Our very way of life, when you start to get into what's happening in our food system, is truly under threat."
— Sam Kass (23:41)

• Kass suggests that RFK Jr.’s focus isn’t true public health, but rather a platform for legal and financial gain by lawyers.

7. Final Thoughts and Takeaways

(24:00–24:21)

• Kass calls for an agenda that authentically addresses both food quality and climate resilience, warning that current trends are dire.

"We need aggressive action. And that is absolutely not what we're seeing. In fact, quite the opposite."
— Sam Kass (23:58)

• The host recommends Kass’s new book, “The Last Supper: How to Overcome the Coming Food Crisis,” for those seeking deeper understanding and concrete solutions.

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Notable Quotes (w/ Timestamps)

• "I started realizing, you know, how much our food system was undermining our health and also starting to undermine and erode planetary health."
  — Sam Kass (04:04)

• "Sarah Palin was passing out cookies and saying get the nanny state out of our house. Michelle Obama, like, you have no business telling us what to eat."
  — Sam Kass (09:55)

• "Fruit Loops with food dyes. Fruit Loops without food dyes is still not something you probably should be feeding your kids...It is—there's still Fruit Loops."
  — Sam Kass (14:20–14:22)

• "Seed oils are not dangerous. In fact they are...better than saturated fat."
  — Sam Kass (14:50)

• "He is unequivocally the biggest threat to public health the United States has ever faced."
  — Sam Kass (17:09)

• "You can only do that, however, if you are meaningfully increasing the benefit. Because right now it's simply nowhere near enough money to buy healthy food."
  — Sam Kass (18:38)

• "Many of the foods we love and hold dear...are really under threat and may not be available, at least at a price point that most people can afford in our lifetimes."
  — Sam Kass (20:39)

• "Our very way of life, when you start to get into what's happening in our food system, is truly under threat."
  — Sam Kass (23:41)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:00–04:00: Sam Kass’s personal journey to food policy
• 05:35–10:00: Obama food agenda and Republican backlash
• 12:18–14:00: RFK Jr.’s food critique, symbolic reforms, and conspiracies
• 14:55–16:50: Institutional dismantling under RFK Jr.
• 17:40–20:10: SNAP standards, cuts, and impacts on the poor
• 20:11–24:00: Food security, climate threats, and the need for systemic action

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Tone and Style

The conversation is candid, urgent, and deeply informed. Kass combines policy expertise with vivid real-world examples, often communicating a sense of both hope and grave concern. The host draws out specifics and challenges, ensuring that the critique is nuanced—even as the overall outlook is stark.

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In Summary:
This episode reveals the vast gap between rhetoric and reality in current food policy under RFK Jr., warns of the deliberate undermining of public health institutions, and underscores the existential dangers climate change poses to food security. Sam Kass offers both historical context and a call for action, making clear that what’s at stake is nothing less than the health, security, and very culture of American life. For listeners wanting the roadmap to solutions, Kass’s new book is the recommended next step.

Transcript

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[C]

Cohn at the Bulwark. You know, we've been talking a lot about RFK Jr, what he's doing in vaccines, what's happening at the CDC. But there is a whole other part to his agenda which is about food. It's interesting. There's things to see there that maybe there's some good parts, bad parts. Sifting through all that is complicated. We have the perfect guest today to do that. It is Sam Kass. If you follow food, if you watch the Cooking channel, if you remember the Obama years, you may know him. He was a chef in the Obama White House. He was also a senior policy advisor on nutrition policy for the Obama White House and executive director of the let's Move initiative that was run by the First Lady. Since then he's gone off into the private sector, but he is also the author of a brand new book called the Last Supper. How to Overcome the Coming Food Crisis. Sam, I'm so glad you're here to help us sort through these issues.

[D]

It's great to be here. Thanks for having me. Yeah.

[C]

Now there's actually, I say there's an alternative universe, right, where actually you're not in food, you're actually. You play for the White Sox. I looked up, you played college baseball and I think I saw you had a 366 lifetime average at the University of Chicago, is that right?

[D]

Yeah, I was trying to get drafted. I actually went to junior college for a couple years before then in the hopes of making it to the major leagues, much to their chagrin, but. But eventually, you know, I went to UFC and then and Sort of hung up the cleat, so to speak. Although I played there.

[C]

The cleats?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Well, you did okay. You did okay.

[E]

Now, how did you.

[C]

How did you get to food? I mean, that's. I. I heard this story once, so that was interesting. I mean, how did that happen? Because, I mean, baseball to food, not a. Not a typical trajectory.

[D]

Yeah, not at all. So I was finishing University of Chicago, and I had a semester left, and I. I'd always loved to cook, and I felt like, you know, one day I should go to culinary school, because if you know how to cook, your life's better, you know, if you can feed yourself and feed your future family. And so I said that to the head. I said that to a friend of mine, Boyfriend, who was a chef. And so he invited me into this. Into a kitchen in Chicago. I basically showed up at this Italian American restaurant and just started helping out because he was like, don't go to culinary school. It's a waste of your money. It's super expensive. Just come hang out in the kitchen. And so then I had a great time, although I didn't know anything. It was kind of a disaster. And one semester left and went to. Got into an abroad program in Vienna and ended up, through a very random connection, got introduced to the sous chef of the best restaurant in Vienna, and they offered for me to come in and just hang out in stage. They call it just volunteer.

[C]

I watched a bear. So these terms mean something to me.

[D]

Yeah. That episode about when they went overseas to do the training was, like, hit so close to home. So that was basically my life, really.

[C]

Okay. That was realistic. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, totally. I worked for free. I would wake up and go work the lunch service that I'd run to class and then for two hours, and then work dinner service and then drink with the chefs late into the night and do it all again the next day.

[C]

And then. So how do you end up at the White House? Like, what is the short version of that?

[D]

The very short version of that is, like, during early, actually, in that training, I started realizing, you know, how much our food system was undermining our health and also starting to undermine and erode planetary health. And so I started doing deep dives into every book I could read around these issues around agriculture and food policy. And it was, you know, very nascent back then. And so I ended up after sort of cooking and traveling around the world for about five years, but. But really focusing in on these issues less around, like, what's the next recipe? I could Figure out how to make. I came back to Chicago coincidentally, right after the Obamas had. Then Senator Obama had launched the campaign for presidency and got connected with Michelle. And it was just grandma. They didn't have any kind of staff or team, and she had two young kids. So I started helping them out during the campaign a few nights a week and, you know, was talking about all the issues that families were facing and all the challenges and the health crisis we were in. And so we sort of decided to take on these issues if we were so lucky to get to the White House. And we actually got very all caught up one night getting like, you know, very excited about, you know, we could plant a garden and then do this big health initiative. It's going to be amazing. And then we realized, like, this guy's 30 points down the polls. Like, she. She writes about this in her book. And like this, what are we talking about? We started laughing at ourselves, but the rest was history.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. So the, the agenda, the. I mean, the people don't, you know, they think about health care, they think about, you know, financial agenda. Well, the food agenda. In the Obama administration, there was a lot of work you guys did. I mean, there was. It was a pretty ambitious agenda. Sum up, like, what was. What were the goals? What was the sort of. What were you trying to do?

[D]

We were trying to transform the health of the nation. You know, we were doing it in a different time than we find ourselves today. We focused in on kids and kids health because it was much harder to fight against, you know, trying to improve the health of children than it, you know, it's sort of like, who's against that? And so, like, just politically and strategically, that's where we focus. But also from an intervention standpoint, you'll have the biggest impact the younger you start in terms of trying to improve people's health and get them on the right trajectory. But yeah, we were looking to make, you know, fundamentally shift the health of the country, make these issues relevant to people, have them understand the connection between their food and their health and try to change the way we feed ourselves. And I think we made a tremendous amount of progress. Obviously, tackling a problem as massive and entrenched as our food system is takes generations. So you're never going to get there in a couple terms, but I think we got a lot done.

[C]

So when we talk about what was missing for kids, and I know this is, I mean, this is half your book, so it's hard to summarize, but I mean, to what extent is it Kids not getting the right stuff, too much of the bad stuff. The way the food is produced itself is bad for them. Is it all of those things? I mean, what are we talking about?

[D]

Yeah, it's all of that and more. I mean, I think basically our food environments are setting people up for failure. You know, the 80% of the foods were on the shelves are not classified as healthy. We aren't allocating enough resources to feed our kids in schools or certainly to support the nutritional needs of the most vulnerable in the country. And just generally, you know, we are prioritizing as a culture, you know, taste and convenience first and foremost and cost. And so it's providing, you know, we're providing people with mostly unhealthy empty calories, you know, that are, you know, chock full of sugar and fat and salt. And we're not getting the kind of nutrient density that we need in the bites that we're having. And that's playing out kind of in every quarter of the system. And that's on the health side. And then on the environmental side, you know, food and agriculture is the number two driver of emissions globally. Number one driver of deforestation and land use change and biodiversity loss. Number one, use of the world's fresh water. And it's being pummeled by climate. And so it's both a driver of environmental degradation and on the front lines of it and really being challenged. And so we have a lot of work to do if we're going to create a food environment and a food system that is both supporting the well being of the citizenry as well as protecting our ability to feed future generations in the way that we've been fed. Even the status quo now, which is wildly unacceptable, is under threat given the realization of what climate's already starting to do to our food system.

[C]

Now you said a minute ago you focus on kids because who could be against good health for kids. And that's right. No one's against good health for kids. But I remember very distinctly a ton of flak over this. And there were, I mean, I. Tell me if I'm wrong, but I mean, it seemed like there was a lot of pushback. My recollection and a lot of this was, you know, Michelle Obama wagging her finger at what you wanted to eat. And I mean, am I wrong? Did I imagine all that?

[D]

No, it. Given where things are right now, I feel like I'm living in the upside down because back then, you know, the GOP fought us on absolutely everything. I mean, there wasn't a thing we tried to do that wasn't, you know, criticized, critiqued both on the Hill and, you know, all the, the various conservative network, you know, Fox and the rest.

[C]

What's an example? Like what was something you got pushed back on?

[D]

Oh, I mean, Sarah Palin was like passing out cookies and saying get the nanny state out of our, our house. Michelle Obama, like, you know, you have no business telling us what to eat. You know, there's clips after clips. Everything we tried to do saw resistance. We had, you know, people in Capitol Hill, Republicans pushing back and, and trying to, you know, tie our hands on school nutrition reform or any of the other things we were trying to do.

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[C]

Bulwarktakes well, let's zoom ahead. Right now we have a new administration. We have a secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He talks all about food. I've heard him up there. He, you know, we're doing, he's doing things on food dyes and seed oils. And you know, this is his mantra, making America healthy again. He wants people to eat better. So that sounds great. Right. I mean, isn't that what you were talking about?

[D]

Yes, I'd say the critique, I think.

[C]

Let'S try to give him. Let's say the broad view is the critique he's giving. How does that sound?

[D]

Yes, I think the critique is. Is. Is largely right. I mean, I think, you know, at times I feel like he overstates some things. The conspiratorial nature of some of the. The way he lays out his critique sometimes I think is just not accurate. Some, by the way, is. I mean, you know, this isn't. I'm not naive. I've been. Been in the trenches for a long time. So I think, you know, the critique is largely one that I agree with and, and one that has been. That we were saying back then and has been, you know, been discussed by many authors and critics for a long time. So I think there's a lot of similarities there. And I think that critique 1 is an important 1 and 2 is. Is. Is evocative for those of us who really care about this issue and are doing work, you know, in the trenches in different parts of society. And it's important and exciting when somebody in a position of real power is uttering this critique. And I think that's why he's been able to get a lot of people to come be supportive of this administration, including friends of mine who otherwise would never get behind what's going on. But they see this issue as their most important issue and are willing to support what's happening here, you know, despite the rest. I take Big Issue. I got a lot of problems with that, but. But I do understand why people find that exciting. After that point, it all falls apart, like, dramatically.

[C]

How so?

[D]

Where to even start? First of all, I'd say on that, I'll just start with what's happening externally and. And then what's that's covering up that's happening behind the scenes externally. The reason it falls apart is none of the issues that they're actually working on is going to make an iota of difference to the health of the nation. Let's just start with food dyes. You know, Fruit Loops with food dyes. Fruit Loops without food dyes is still not something you probably should be feeding your kids.

[C]

There's still Fruit Loops.

[D]

It is. There's still Fruit Loops. Like, I'm not like some big supporter of food diets. Like, I, I'm happy to see them go. But you will see absolutely no difference to the public health whether they're there or not. They are just not the Problem seed oils. You know this, the, the influencer ecosystem that has been built is very powerful and convincing. These guys are very good at picking some study that cast some bit of doubt on something, overstate what that study, you know, is actually claiming when you read it and create this whole fear based ecosystem of this ingredient or that ingredient is going to kill you or is killing you. See, those are the perfect example. It even got me like I had to go back. I was like, did I get this one wrong? Like maybe I've been missing this this whole time and I'd go back and like do, you know, review all the studies and talk to a bunch of experts and realize like, yeah, no, this is complete. Like seed oils are not dangerous. In fact they are, oh study after study better than saturated fat. And we have the head of HHS going to fast food restaurants touting cheeseburgers and french fries as healthy because they were fried in beef tallow. I mean, it's just insane. It's absolutely insane. So none of what they focus on so far is going to have any impact positively on public health. In fact, you know, on that issue actually could move us backwards. The reports that they've been promoting, you know, have absolutely no fidelity in them, no details, and they're just not addressing any of the core issues that are going to, would have a positive impact on our health. What makes that much worse is that behind the scenes they're destroying the institutions that are actually there to help move us in a better direction. They're gutting the cdc, they're gutted fda, they've destroyed nih. And same with usda. I mean, USDA is being completely dismantled from the inside out. And it's under this mantra of we care about your kids, we're working to get these toxic things out of your food. None of that's really happening. And behind the scenes the regulatory agencies that would be in charge of this to actually try to make progress are all being gutted and decimated. It's a complete travesty. And I think he's just hoodwinking the American public. I think that's the food side. Then what you see, they're kind of laundering the rest of the behavior of this administration. You could take Tylenol and then into vaccines. And I think when you start to understand what's happening there, I think it's. He is unequivocally the most, the biggest threat to public health the United States has ever faced. The implications of what's happening in those areas are so scary for all parents And I'm a father of two kids, two boys, eight and six. It is, it is, it is hard to overstate the implication of hear what's happening. And the food side is really like, what brings like the suburban mom and the person who's worried about their kids. Oh, look, they're fighting for us. Like, I can trust them. Like they're doing it and they bring them into the tent. But really what's happening is calamity when it comes to the health of the country. I cannot overstate it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, well, and the sort of, the seed oil. When you were describing, going back to the studies on seed oil, I've had that experience with some of the vaccines where they're talking about. I'm like, wait a minute, I've done the deep dive on these studies. Did I miss something? And I go back like, no, no, no. They're just, you know, they're just, they're cherry picking this number and that number and putting things together. One thing they've emphasized, I know, is sort of nutrition standards for SNAP and for school lunches. Of course, that's not all that's going on with SNAP and school lunches. At least with snap, we're about to have the biggest cut in food assistance in history. How does that net out? I mean, if we have, on the one hand, you know, if they're, if they're sort of theoretically upgrading the standards for snap, but then they're cutting the money that's going into snap. What is, what does that mean?

[D]

Yeah, this is all a ruse to try to, you know, restrict benefits for poor people. It's just full stop. And this is nothing new. I was fighting this fight every cycle, every budget cycle when I was in the White House. I personally, as a public health advocate and somebody who's been working on the policy for a long time, I'm empathetic and think there is a path where some standards around SNAP benefits could be in the, in the best interest of taxpayers and of the public. You can only do that, however, if you are meaningfully increasing the benefit. Because right now it's simply nowhere near enough money to buy healthy food. Right now. The, the way that they actually calculate how much people should be be compensated for nutrition assistance is based on sort of a sketched out diet. And right now it includes like 40 servings of beans that don't quote me exactly. It's not exactly that number, but it's like you got to eat a ton of beans because they're cheap. And it's like the only thing you need, but nobody can eat like that. And so the benefit is just way too small to actually purchase, you know, nutritious food. So if we were willing to meaningfully increase the benefit, I would be open to finding some ways to, you know, have the most egregious like, you know, soda or candy bars to be restricted until you do that. This is just a. Yet another in a long series of efforts to pull back and push down programs that are supporting poor people in America. And it's unconscionable. It is absolutely. Given who's in the, in, in office. It's just how dare they go after people who are just barely hanging on and try to strip these benefits.

[C]

I was thinking, just thinking ahead because I'm an optimist, hopeless one. And so thinking to a time when we might have either a change of heart from this leadership or different leadership in the White House and what an agenda might look like. And your book is that it lays out an agenda. It's a big. You can't summarize it in two minutes. I know, but just talk a little bit about the fact that, I mean, it's a food agenda but also a climate agenda. Right. I mean, it's really the marriage of those two.

[D]

I'm happy you're an optimist. I mean, I'm hopeful but not necessarily optimistic. Yeah. I mean, look when you look at what's happening to our food system and the impacts of climate change, many of the foods we love and hold dear, like coffee, wine, chocolate, shellfish, crustaceans, stone fruit, nuts, like a long list of like, you know, foods that we're eating frequently are really under threat and may not be available, at least at a price point that most people can afford in our lifetimes, let alone our kids and grandkids lifetimes. And that's not taking into account then what's going to happen to the big commodities like rice. Especially where three and a half billion people depend on a daily basis for rice as a core part of their diet. As climate makes that production and those yields come down, the implications for global stability, for food security and then political stability, forced migrations and conflicts is. It's hard to actually wrap your mind.

[C]

Around the implications, security in both sense of the word. Right. Security for individuals, but also affects like national security issues.

[D]

It is one of the animating issues that national security experts in the future are gaming out and are very concerned about. And that's the other thing. I just have to bring it back to this administration. If you really care about making America healthy again. How can you possibly oversee the total gutting of every climate related policy in government, pulling back every regulation on greenhouse gas emissions, but also at USDA which is working to start to invest in setting our food system up for the volatility that we face ahead to help growers figure out how to produce food in a much more difficult climate. That's all been completely gutted. And there's, you know, the most, the biggest threat I think we face to our public health is climate change. And if we're not aggressively taking this on, the future is going to be quite dire. And I'm extremely concerned about it. I think when you step back and look at, I just have to get this, you know, I think in the end when you look at who we have leading this, we have a class action lawyer leading our public health system and you already quickly saw Tylenol now get a massive lawsuit based on this finding from hhs. I think in the end that's what this is about. This isn't about our health. This is about lawyers making a lot of money. And I think as we get out of this administration, that's what we're going to start to see. But the reality is the core issues that they've raised around our health and the future of our health is critical. And that's going to mean having real policies that improve the actual food that gets onto our plates and, and aggressively taking on climate so that future generations are going to be able to eat in the same way that we've been able to. And that's what's at stake. Our very way of life, when you start to get into what's happening in our food system is truly under threat. We're seeing whole collapses of different crops or different species that have been regions have depended on. Like a couple of years ago we lost 90% of the Georgia peach crop because of extreme weather. When you look at the models, you can give or take 10 years here, by the next 20, 30 years there's probably any peaches really grown in Georgia at all. It's just one example. I could give you hundreds of those examples. And so really our way of life and our culture is really, you know, under threat here. So we need aggressive action. And that is absolutely not what we're seeing. In fact, quite the opposite.

[C]

Well maybe if we're lucky this at least the, the themes that are being sound here that are, that are, that we all agree on will carry over past this administration. Administration and give us a head start. And definitely if you want to learn more about this, I recommend Sam's book, the Last Supper how to Overcome the Coming Food Crisis. Sam, thanks for spending time with us here at the Bulwark today, man.

[D]

Thanks so much for having me. It was a pleasure.

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