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Sam Stein
Stein, managing editor at the Bulwark, and I'm joined by our publisher, Sarah Longwell. And I'm not going to enjoy this video because Sarah and I for some reason have decided that we're going to read mean comments that people have said online about each of us.
Sarah Longwell
Two weeks ago, nobody decided this. Okay. I don't. Somebody handed me a sheet of paper with digs on Sam and they were like, you guys are going to do a take on this. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll just read mean comments about Sam.
Sam Stein
I mean, there's something really perverse about this because we both effectively, to a degree steer the company and yet we've decided someone's going to make us do this to each other. I don't know why we're doing this.
Sarah Longwell
It's just like us making fun of ourselves for the enjoyment of our listeners. So here you go, guys. Merry Christmas. We're gonna roast each other right now like a couple of yule logs.
Sam Stein
All right, how do you want to do this? Like tit for tat. You read one, I read one, and then we just sort of react. Should we do that? Yeah, I mean, let me just, let me just level set with people though. And I haven't seen a single thing that Sarah's gonna read to me about me. Sarah hasn't seen a single comment that people said about her that I'm going to read to her. But we have talked to the people who gathered these comments and it was very clear that I'm about to take it on the chin relative to Sarah, that it's much worse for me than it is for her. She's.
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Sam Stein
You don't believe that that's the case?
Sarah Longwell
I don't believe that because I also read the comments and if you don't have six of them that are like, Sarah, why don't you apologize every time for being a Republican for so long that you don't have an accurate reflect. Or go over to Reddit where they, you know, that's JVL's world over there, and they do not care for the voters that I show, you know, that I believe are humans.
Sam Stein
And let me just one last disclaimer before we get into it. We love our commenters. We love our fans and our haters. I actually. I revel in the hatred. I find it invigorating. As long as it's not too violent and personal, I'll take it. And so hopefully this is done in good spirit. All right, you go first.
Sarah Longwell
This is from Mr. Penxx. I'd be disappointed as a sponsor if Sam was reading my ad. Are you bad at the ads? You seem. Okay.
Sam Stein
Which ad? Was it the soul gummy ad or was it he takes one before he.
Sarah Longwell
Before he does the ad, so he's always a little giggly?
Sam Stein
I don't know. So. So gummy. They keep asking me to read the ad. Think they're happy with my content? Maybe I didn't do a job.
Sarah Longwell
I think we should do three in a row.
Sam Stein
Well, I don't even have. I have, like, three for you total, but go ahead.
Sarah Longwell
Lolly. 387 says, how many bad takes can Sam have in one video? Good Lord, I wish I knew what video.
Sam Stein
Yeah, I need the context for that one, Lolly. Thank you, but I don't know. What was the video? What was the take I had?
Sarah Longwell
All right, to be fair, he does. We all have some bad takes, guys. They can't all be good.
Sam Stein
Yeah, I'm like. I'm hitting, like, 50%. I'm happy.
Sarah Longwell
Yeah, that's. Those are good numbers. Juden Peterson.
Sam Stein
Oh, no, not Juden. I don't know Juden is this one.
Sarah Longwell
Oh, this is. This is anti Semitic.
Sam Stein
Read it, read it, read it. It's okay.
Sarah Longwell
Juden Peterson said. Oh, no, sorry. @ Juden.
Sam Stein
Peterstein. Oh.
Sarah Longwell
Yeah. Sam Stein in all caps.
Sam Stein
LOL.
Sarah Longwell
God. Who? I don't want to read this to you, Sam. Who knows spelled N O, S E. Oh, my.
Sam Stein
God. Who put this in.
Sarah Longwell
The. This is not. Who knows why he has a platform garbage can.
Sam Stein
Emoji. Okay, why did we read that one? What was the point of.
Sarah Longwell
That? I don't know. Am I supposed to. What am I supposed to do here? I told you, it's anti Semitic. It's.
Sam Stein
Bad. I will just say the context is I'm a Jew. All right, I let that one go. I get a lot of.
Sarah Longwell
Those. Do you want to keep that in here? We should.
Sam Stein
Maybe. I don't want.
Sarah Longwell
To.
Sam Stein
People. People should know what's on. I'm fine with full transparency. People need to know what's out there on the Internet. A lot of anti Semitism. I'm happy with my religion. I'm happy with my nose. I'll live with.
Sarah Longwell
That. You have a great.
Sam Stein
Nose. Thank you, Sarah. All right, let's move on. I'm going to read again. I just want to be clear. Yours are, like, half of the one ones I got were, like, people being complimentary. So it's like, not. This is not a fair fight, but I'm gonna read one. And this is. So. This is out of context, because people love what this is. I'm just gonna read it. Susan Winters, dash K6X. Sarah, your hair stylist hates you. You had gorgeous hair. Not so much.
Sarah Longwell
Anymore. That's not.
Sam Stein
Even. That doesn't represent the. And I'm being sincere. The vast majority of the commenters have been incre.
Sarah Longwell
Complimentary. The haircut, they've been pro haircut. But Susan.
Sam Stein
Winters. Apparently.
Sarah Longwell
Not. Okay. You know, the context of this is that I'm a girl, therefore get lots of comments about my hair when my hairstyle changes, which has been a new experience for.
Sam Stein
Me. That's good. I like the hair. I'm gonna do a couple. I'm gonna read these two in succession because they're about the same thing. Barry says, first, how could Sarah not have watched Seinfeld? And Charles says, sarah needs to keep an open mind and watch Seinfeld. Why don't you watch Seinfeld? Is this, like, a.
Sarah Longwell
Thing? It.
Sam Stein
Is. This is a form of anti.
Sarah Longwell
Semitism. It is a form of anti Semitism. Me not watching Seinfeld. I. I almost made that joke, too. JBL was making a Seinfeld reference in a recent podcast. No, I get all the references. I. And also, I did never. I never sat down to watch Seinfeld. But like the Soup Nazi, the. He wanted to. He was doing an Elaine bit that I didn't. That one I didn't know. But I've seen enough of Seinfeld. Like, I get Seinfeld. It's just not. It's not my.
Sam Stein
Favorite. Okay, fair enough. All right. While we were speaking, they've been adding some stuff I believe from Reddit maybe. Yeah, it looks like from Reddit. So I have more in the arsenal. But you.
Sarah Longwell
Go. You're up. I don't like.
Sam Stein
These. Try to keep them. Try to keep them on the right side of the anti Semitic line if you.
Sarah Longwell
Can. Is it my job? Because I Just thought I was reading these, but if you need me.
Sam Stein
To edit them for reasons I've not seen, I've not.
Sarah Longwell
Seen. I do not like that I had to read that anti semitic.
Sam Stein
One. I know you didn't believe it.
Sarah Longwell
Personally. If you have one there that's mean about lesbians, you have full range to do.
Sam Stein
It. I'm looking for.
Sarah Longwell
It. This one's just mean but nice. To Andrew Iger at. At fiery picnic. Sam is so bad. Can't you get someone good to interview Andrew? I spent half my time just cringing at Sam's inflated ego. It's really not fair to Andrew, who is actually good. I rarely click when it's Sam's pick on the thumbnail and I regret it every.
Sam Stein
Time. I think people need to have the proper context for this one too. Andrew and I have a very great relationship that's built on a little bit of sort of like fun false adversariness, I guess, adversarial ness. But I love Andrew. I just pick on him a little.
Sarah Longwell
Bit. There's a genre of the. Of the Andrew tweets. Sam is so patronizing to Andrew. Let him cook or cut him loose to a colleague that respects.
Sam Stein
Him. Okay, I'm getting. I'm picking up on a theme here and I'm going to make a resolution for this new year to be more kind to.
Sarah Longwell
Andrew. Okay, all right, you go. Do you do too now? Because now there's like a new genre I have, but are just.
Sam Stein
Minors. Okay, here's some of the new material. Yeah, see? Okay, before I get to new material, like, the. The stuff I had was like, you know, it wasn't even remotely bad. Patricia Riley writes, I'm not lesbian. I'm not a lesbian. But like Sarah, I find those men repellent. Like, that's not a bad thing. That's a good thing. All right, here we go from. From what appears to be the Reddit's ccbg77 writes, please stop wasting time on focus groups, Sarah. That's why Dems lose all the time. They have to have focus groups. Polls run, every statement by legal, et cetera, et cetera. Then CDNs, A, N D I E54 says, why does Sarah keep presenting the both sides in every situation? Just like msm. Please stop. There's no both sides with this. And then another one says, I hate Sarah. I hate Sarah. Please stop putting her on this show. That's her.
Sarah Longwell
Show. Yeah, I got tough news for that guy, which is it's her show. That's why I started this company.
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Sam Stein
Yeah. I'm gonna get rid of her.
Sarah Longwell
Sorry. There's no one to fire me. There's just no one to do.
Sam Stein
It. Okay, well, I'm saving a few for. For later. We have. I have a couple more for you, but go.
Sarah Longwell
Ahead. Well, these are just. This is. Sam, you can be a jerk. Which is. Which is right in line with. At James Crawford, 6771, Sam Stein is full of crap. And then at John Starrett, 3397, Sam, you're a bit silly. Where's.
Sam Stein
Sarah? That's fine. I'll take.
Sarah Longwell
That. Hey, Sam, wait until the full sentence gets out.
Sam Stein
Bro. Sensing a.
Sarah Longwell
Theme. Yeah, there's a lot of.
Sam Stein
These. Stop interrupting, you dick. All right, here we go. Some people just don't get the focus group concept. Let's just put it that.
Sarah Longwell
Way. I.
Sam Stein
Know. Okay. Count Brass. This is from four days ago. I love it. If Sarah could explain what the point is of asking these questions of the stupidest people the electorate. Do you want to address that.
Sarah Longwell
One just as a quick. Just. That person votes these. The stupid people vote in jail. They all get. They all get to vote. And so knowing where they are is good for politicians to know. Because just so you guys know, in a democracy, the voters, no matter how stupid, they get to decide who governs them. So that's why I.
Sam Stein
Listen. Makes sense to me. All right. Complex minds. Simple man. 6, 6, 4, 2. Simple man with a complex mind says, when it comes to democratic strategy, whatever Sarah is against, I am for. She's always wrong. And then Kowloon Tong says, can we get Sarah is always wrong T. Question.
Sarah Longwell
Mark? I'm sure you could make that.
Sam Stein
Yourself. I think that's pretty easy.
Sarah Longwell
Printing. I think. I think you could do it sometimes wrong. But, you know, I've had a lot of W's on the. On that, but that's. Whatever. That's.
Sam Stein
Cool. Do you keep a tab in your head like. Like what you think is, like, the score between you and jvl. Do you have.
Sarah Longwell
That? I do. I do. And I would like to tell you some of my big ones since I've got this opening. The first one is I was the one saying, Joe Biden shouldn't run again. Joe Biden shouldn't run again. The voters think he's too old. Because, you know, I listened to the voters, and they were real clear on this. They did not want Joe Biden to run.
Sam Stein
Again.
Sarah Longwell
Yeah. One, two. My big fight with JVL was over the economics during Joe Biden. I Was like, people don't feel it. They are so frustrated with the inflation. And that turns out, in retrospect, to have been the main reason why Trump.
Sam Stein
Won. Hey, you got those two right. What's the one you got the most.
Sarah Longwell
Wrong? Well, I definitely. I thought that there was. I used to quote this a lot, that there was just enough virtue in this republic to save it. Sometimes none to spare, but still enough to meet the.
Sam Stein
Emergency. You would say that.
Sarah Longwell
Yeah. It's a state. William Seward during the Civil.
Sam Stein
War. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I remember that one. You got that one wrong. All right, hit.
Sarah Longwell
Me. Hey, Sam. Oh, wait, I already did this one. Sam, what happened? Well, they're all like this. I should just read all of these. Sam, what happened to let her cook? You finish her sentences for her? That must have been with me. I don't know who else you're talking.
Sam Stein
To. Is every single comment just. Sam, shut up. You interrupt too.
Sarah Longwell
Much. Basically, it is does for from lucky man. Indeed. Does Sam Stein ever all caps Let a person finish a sentence or thought without interruption? Question mark at Gina Rosetti, 7722. I agree with Sam the Interrupter Stein. I'm not comfortable with all sports betting advertised during and possibly at sporting events. Oh, that's a nice one. She agreed with you. She just. You've got a nickname in the.
Sam Stein
Comments. What am I supposed to do? I got to stop. I got to, like, literally bite my.
Sarah Longwell
Tongue. L for Sam the Interrupter, Utah underscore John. Good Lord. Sam interrupts a lot. That's all I got, but okay.
Sam Stein
I got one more for you. I clearly, I have stuff to work on. Oh, oh, oh, this is good because it turns a critique of me on you. William Foots says Sarah talks a lot. Given it's supposed to be George. Explains it all to Sarah. Please stop interrupting George. Whoa. You would think. Has he watched the show? That's not how it.
Sarah Longwell
Goes. If you did, like, a thing where you just took minutes of talking time, I guarantee you it is 10% for me and 90% for.
Sam Stein
Him. That seems totally extraordinary to me. I don't feel like you interrupt George at all. Okay, I have one more for you. Louise Bolton, 1800, please have Sarah Longwell pronounced Ghis Maxwell's first name correctly. Apparently you can't do.
Sarah Longwell
It. Can't do.
Sam Stein
It. Can't do.
Sarah Longwell
It. What did you Ghisain? I say Ghislaine or I.
Sam Stein
Can'T. It's a tough one. That's a tough.
Sarah Longwell
Name. If you've run A pedophile ring. I do not feel obligated to say your name properly. I'll just. I can butcher your name all day long. You know what my favorite comment was recently? I've been listening for years and I've never heard Sarah Longwell finish a distinct thought. This is a real thing about me. I interrupt my own line of thinking all the time to backtrack and stuff. And I think that was a clean hit on.
Sam Stein
Me. Wait, so you, you have an interruption problem.
Sarah Longwell
Too? I interrupt my own self.
Sam Stein
Yes. Yeah, that's better than interrupting other.
Sarah Longwell
People. In your defense, I do think that Sam has a real TV and reporters knack for. He is trying to get out the next thing and keep the conversation moving quickly. I do think though, for our audience, they would listen to us. The number of people who after our 90 minute TNL the other day were just like more TNL.
Sam Stein
People. Yeah, no, I will say just in my defense, that is true. It's like, and especially with Edgar, Guy's got so many thoughts in his brain. I just want him to like synthesize a little bit and.
Sarah Longwell
Focus. He's getting his reps.
Sam Stein
In. Yeah, that's true. And I should just shut up because the guy's cooking, he's smart, and no one cares for an interrupting Sam. So there's that. All right. I don't have anything really more here in my, in my arsenal. I mean, some of them are just like straight up stupid and mean and I'm not going to read them. Oh, you have.
Sarah Longwell
Some. Wait, you have stupid and mean ones for.
Sam Stein
Me? Yeah, but I don't feel comfortable reading this. Like, like, oh my God, people. All right. Of course, Sarah was at war. Criminal Dick Cheney. Cheney's funeral. Lmfao. It's like, do we mean. Is that even that mean? It's like mean to Dick.
Sarah Longwell
Cheney. Yeah, I was there with Tim. Did you yell at Tim or just. Just the.
Sam Stein
Girl. Yeah, there's a couple more Chaney ones. I think we get the gist. Yeah, I'm ready to. I'm ready to call it quits on this one. This was, this was, this was humbling and important, but I don't want to do it.
Sarah Longwell
Again. You didn't hurt me, guys. You didn't hurt me. Try.
Sam Stein
Harder. Exactly. The comments are mean enough. Please, let's do better. Sarah, thank you so much. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you for, you know, commenting. Most of you, you do need to step up your hate game. I feel like this was. This was too easy to get.
Sarah Longwell
By. Not really we are people with.
Sam Stein
Feelings. Exactly. That's a thing. It does hurt a little bit inside. I'm masking it. We'll talk to you later. Subscribe to the feed where you get to watch us humiliate ourselves on your behalf. Take care.
Sarah Longwell
Sarah. You're the best.
Sam Stein
Sam. Love.
Sarah Longwell
You.
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Podcast: Bulwark Takes
Hosts: Sam Stein and Sarah Longwell
Episode Date: December 24, 2025
Episode Theme:
A candid, self-deprecating, and often hilarious holiday roast in which hosts Sam and Sarah read and react to mean (and some kind) comments from listeners and internet critics, exploring what it means to be on the receiving end of the modern media hate cycle.
Sam Stein and Sarah Longwell, two central figures at The Bulwark, spend this episode digging into the best (and worst) of their public hate mail. The conversation, described as “roasting each other like a couple of yule logs” (04:42), is a blend of sharp wit, vulnerability, and honest feedback. Throughout the episode, they reflect on public engagement—both positive and negative—while poking fun at each other and the sometimes-outrageous criticisms they receive.
Sam as “bad at ads”:
“How many bad takes can Sam have in one video?” (05:49)
Anti-Semitic Comment:
Sam the Interrupter:
With Andrew Iger:
Hair and Appearance Critiques:
Not Enough Seinfeld?
Focus Groups & Bothsides-ism:
Sarah “Always Wrong”:
Mispronouncing Names:
Interrupting—A Shared Problem?
On Taking Criticism:
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------| | 03:01 | Intro: Why are they reading hate mail? | | 04:49 | Disclaimer on loving fans & haters | | 06:18 | Anti-Semitic comment & handling hate | | 08:02 | Sarah’s hair critiques | | 08:48 | The Seinfeld debate | | 09:56 | Criticisms of Sam’s interviews with Andrew | | 11:37 | Focus groups: why bother? | | 13:25 | Sarah’s defense of focus groups | | 14:07 | “Sarah is always wrong” genre | | 16:09 | Sam on biting his tongue, interruption issue | | 17:14 | Pronouncing “Ghislaine” Maxwell | | 17:38 | Sarah’s confession: interrupts herself | | 19:11 | The wrap-up on reading hate mail | | 19:28 | Final banter and goodbyes |
The conversation stays irreverent and self-aware, with both hosts comfortable riffing on each other's quirks and the nature of media criticism in the internet era. While the show pokes fun at internet haters, it doesn't shy away from addressing the ugly (anti-Semitic) corners of public comment culture, modeling a resilient but honest response.
For Listeners:
If you’re curious about how media personalities process criticism—or just want a holiday laugh at their expense—this is a can't-miss installment. Sam and Sarah’s chemistry, willingness to be roasted, and deft ability to turn negative energy into entertainment make for a revealing, snappy, and good-natured episode.