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Tim Miller (0:00)
Hey, everybody, it's Tim Miller from the Bulwark. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant humiliated himself again on the Sunday shows, this time on this Week on ABC with Martha Raddatz. She was asking him about the status of these deals, these trade negotiations, where people are banging down our door, apparently, and the phone's ringing off the hook on all these trade negotiations while our economy, our economy suffers. And his answers were ranged from unsatisfactory to lying to just utterly, utterly mortifying and disgraceful. I mean, how could you just wake up in the morning, you know, in your Barbie house in Charleston and decide you want to go onto TV and try to spin this nonsense for Donald Trump? Anyway, I want to watch the first clip about the most important thing, the China negotiation, and I'll explain to you what the many, many problems are with it on the other side.
Martha Raddatz (1:03)
Are negotiations actually happening? Who is talking?
Scott Besant (1:07)
This was imf, World Bank Week, the ndc, as you know. And I had interaction with my Chinese counterparts, but it was more on the traditional things like financial stability, global economic, early warnings. I don't know if President Trump has spoken with President Xi. I know they have a very good relationship and a lot of respect for each other, but again, I think that the Chinese will see that this high tariff level is unsustainable for their business.
Martha Raddatz (1:38)
Why would they deny that the negotiations are going on?
Scott Besant (1:41)
Well, I think they're playing to a different audience.
Tim Miller (1:44)
The Treasury Secretary doesn't know if Donald Trump has talked to Chairman Xi. He doesn't know the status of the negotiation. Why are you on TV then? I mean, it'd be one thing to lie and to say, well, you know, those are private conversations. I'm not going to comment on them. That's not what he said. He said, I don't know if they've talked. What are you doing here if you don't know? I mean, like, this is the most important. If you're the Treasury Secretary, the trade war with China is your number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 13 priority right now. Okay? The trade war with China is like a, at the heart of Trump's agenda, positive agenda, if you want to try to spin, spin it that way economically, it is also at the center of the economic challenges that we have in front of us. It could be the thing that leads us into a recession. Like, you know, the negotiation with what's happening with Italy, if we want to pull them out of the EU and do a bi lap, like, that's not that big of a deal. Okay, you know, the Italian marble importers in the country, like, they'd appreciate that. But, like, systemically, what's happening with China is the game. We have a 145% tariff on them. I've mentioned this a couple times, but like, I talked to a woman just a couple days ago who owns a small business here in New Orleans who was like, I'm screwed. Like, so much of the products that we sell to tourists here come from China. There is not an alternative in the US 145% tariff is totally unsustainable. We can't make money. We're going to lose money on everything we sell. And like, we talked about the, you know, game board, the board game company. There are just so many examples of this across the board, like an 145% tariff on China's crisis. Like, there's stories out this morning about the ports, like the Port of Seattle, Port of Los Angeles, like, how much less traffic there is going into the ports already. Like, the final Chinese ship is going to be going into west coast ports in like a week. Or by Chinese ship, I mean, like a ship carrying Chinese goods. So, like, the impact of all of that, like, the impact is the big box store CEO said to Trump of empty shelves, like, all that is coming, that's like, urgent. This is an urgent problem. Okay, it's bad enough. The economy's bad enough right now. The market situation's bad enough, but like a real crisis that people will be able to experience in their lives, be they small business owners or people that shop at Home Depot that, like, almost every American is going to interact with. This crisis is coming right now. The Treasury Secretary should be fully engaged on what is happening with his counterparties in China, what is happening with the President, how we're going to get to some kind of deal or temporary, like some, you know, reprieve, though that wouldn't be that good. I mean, this is an utter crisis. And he's just sitting there all haughtily talking about, oh, well, you know, I, I saw my counterparty at the club, you know, after I had a Cosmopolitan and, you know, we had a little chat there and, you know, we'll see. We'll see. Like what? We're just going to wait. I don't know what Trump is saying. I don't know. I don't know what the status is. Get to work, Scott Besant. Anyway, he did some lying, too. We might as well watch that.
