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Sam Stein
Hey guys, it's Sam Stein managing enter at the Bulwark. I am back with Tim Miller and Will Sommer. Apparently the last video the three of us did together was not too depraved that they decided to bring us back to talk about something I honestly am a little bit nervous to discuss because it's even more depraved. We're going to get into calling us.
Tim Miller
The Fingering Trio now out there.
Sam Stein
Is that what they're calling us?
Tim Miller
Yeah.
Sam Stein
Okay.
Tim Miller
Right.
Will Sommer
I want to work on it.
Sam Stein
Yeah. I think that band name is either taken or no one wants it. Oh, great. Let's. Let's tell the viewers to subscribe to the feed where they can get more from the Fingering Trio and including this coming story on Laura Loomer, her deposition involving Bill Maher, and a truly grotesque line of inquiry involving Marjorie Taylor Greene. Get right into it. All right. Will, set us up. What is the situation? Why is Laura Loomer sitting for a deposition?
Will Sommer
Sure. So people may remember last year there was a point where Trump was hanging out a lot with Laura Loomer. She was on the plane sometimes during the campaign and Bill Maher went on his show and said, maybe they're sleeping together. Maybe he's cheating on Melania with Laura Loomer.
Tim Miller
Who's Trump fucking and it's not Melania?
Sam Stein
I think they may have our answer this week.
Tim Miller
I think it might be Laura Loomer. I'm just saying.
Will Sommer
And then. So she claims that this created all this trouble. She says she was banned from the plane and so she sued him in October. And so now it's gotten to the point where she's getting deposed. And somewhat inexplicably, her lawyers now, just recently, a few weeks ago, basically broke the rules of the judge by putting the whole deposition into the court record. Even though it's like pretty embarrassing and includes a lot of confidential details that they wanted to keep private. It's really Inexplicable, but it's out there now.
Sam Stein
Have they explained why that happened?
Will Sommer
I think they really want to get Bill Maher's deposition out there because I think, like, look, Bill Maher is a guy who is known to kind of stick his foot in his mouth at times. I, you know, he, he, he recently said Billy Joel. Told Billy Joel he wants to write a song, I think, basically reading between the lines about being a pedophile. So I think basically I have to.
Tim Miller
Defend Bill Maher's honor. Bill was just telling Billy Joel and I just in general, you pitching songs to Billy Joel. Not, not something I would do, but I don't really like Billy Joel. So anyway, for different folks, but Bill Maher, the pitch was kind of like, I want to do a song about how it's unfair to impugn an older man who has. Who falls in love with a younger woman. I don't have it in front of me. And so, you know, God bless him, I think, I think we all know where he's going with that. I don't think it was pedophilia. I think it was, you know, just kind of the Bill ouv that he's unapologetic about.
Sam Stein
And this is not a take on Bill Maher. This is a take on Laura Loomer. So we're going to keep the. Keep it going. So she sits down for this deposition. They're talking a bit about, you know, a bunch of things. Among them is just sort of what she feels like was cost by Bill Marley, the cost she endured. And, Tim, I'm going to come to you here because you've been in this world. You probably at one point had visions of being a White House press secretary. I think you wrote about it. She thought she could have been Donald Trump's version of Jen Psaki or Karine Jean Pierre. No question.
Tim Miller
Stranger things have happened. I mean, they just picked up a guy to make him the commissioner of Labor Statistics, who I think previously was doing, like, poo drawings on a piece of paper that said Mr. Trump, great. So, you know, it's not a competitive set, really getting into the Trump administration. So Laura. I don't know if I think Laura's got a lot of skills. I don't know if White House press secretary was in her future. I don't. By the way, as I wrote, I don't know that it was in my future. It was a dream. But as people who have come to know me on YouTube, I don't really have a good poker face, which is Not a great skill set for a press secretary. So I don't think it was in my path either. So I don't think either me or Laura were going there. But her claim in this deposition, I guess is that had Bill not impugned her by suggesting she's sleeping with Trump, I have thoughts on that as well. She would have been on this path to White House press secretary to then a show on Fox, I guess Dana, the Dana Perino model, maybe I would have gone with instead of Jen Psaki and then to boards. Who knows? She could have run to corporate boards. Yeah, that's what she said. Yeah.
Will Sommer
She basically says like, you know, I would cash in, you know, get on these boards, I'll get a foundation, I'll get a book deal, I'll get a cable news show. And this is, this was all cost to her supposedly by, by Bill's kind of offhanded remark.
Sam Stein
I do love the fact that she's like, I would have absolutely played the insider game and like, you know, reaped as many rewards from it as possible if I had the opportunity to do it, like not hiding it. I was going to go through that revolving door and I was going, going to go through it. Well, so, so to speak. Wait, you wanted to. So to speak. You wanted to add something about.
Tim Miller
I did well, so just sleeping with again. I know you said this wasn't a Bill Maher take, but he is kind of central to the story. Bill makes the joke about how she's sleeping with her. He wasn't the only one. This was out there. I'll just say it's important to pull back the curtain here. I have many people who have reached out to me with that same theory or idea that Laura Loomer was sleeping with Donald Trump. And maybe it's the fact that Laura Loomer did come to my defense when Kari Lake attacked me at a Phoenix bar and de escalated. Maybe I'm a little more sympathetic to her than I should otherwise be. I don't know. I do appreciate her de escalation there, but I think, here's what I think. I've spent probably too much brain power on this. I don't think Donald Trump's dick works anymore, I guess is what I'm saying. I don't think his dick works and I feel like if it did, we would know about it.
Sam Stein
Sorry, what?
Tim Miller
I mean, he's not good at secrets. He's not good at secrets. He has a decades long career of sexual harassment and misconduct and assault. He's on audio Talking about how he just goes up to women, he kisses them and he grabs them. And I found it interesting that since becoming president, you don't really hear stories like that.
Sam Stein
And I find, just to be clear, you think the President of the United.
Tim Miller
States Dick doesn't work.
Sam Stein
Should. Should. I know, but you think that he. In a universe where his dick did work, you think Donald Trump would be outwardly bragging about his dick working? I just am sort of.
Tim Miller
I just think we would hear from women that are talking about Trump being Trump. I just. I just don't think a dog changes his tricks. You know, like, he's an old dog.
Sam Stein
I'm gonna disagree with.
Tim Miller
Okay, so let me just go back to the theory. The theory of the case being offered by the Laura Loomer and Donald Trump are having an affair, people, is that Donald Trump becomes the most powerful man in the world in 2016. He has a lifetime record of just being a total hound dog, Like a debauched hound dog at best. It's the nicest thing you could say about his treatment of women. And he gets in there. He gets in the White House. Melania's gone a lot. He's alone, and the one person he has an affair with is Laura Loomer. That's.
Sam Stein
I'm not saying that. I'm saying. I'm not just saying. I don't think. Even if you're having a.
Tim Miller
That's all I'm saying. I'm on Laura Loomer's side of it. I'm not. I don't think there should be a defamation suit on this, but just on the merits of the story. I'm not buying that story. You're going to have to sell me on a different, better. Better conspiracy than this.
Sam Stein
This is why they call us the fingering trio. We will agree to disagree on that.
Will Sommer
One to think about for sure.
Sam Stein
Definitely might not end well.
Tim Miller
The logic pattern there didn't work for you.
Sam Stein
No. We're going to move on because there's parts of this transcript of the deposition that I just want to read and get reactions to, because they're going back and forth. And as Will notes in his piece, which people should read, several pages of the deposition are taken up by Loomer's September 2024 claim. Her arch enemy, Representative Marjorie Taylor Green, has Arby's in her pants. I. I'm not gonna be able make it to this. First of all, the roast beef burglar. We're gonna get to that. Well, why are they arch enemies? Can you just set the stage before I try to read this transcript without dying.
Will Sommer
I. I mean, briefly, this is like a years long feud, but basically, like, I think fundamentally Laura just like really hates other conservative women. I mean, I, I think like the nastiness she displays towards them is like a pretty part of her personality. But basically I think she doesn't like that there's this other prominent conservative woman. Also, Milo Yiannopoulos at one point worked for Marjorie Taylor Greene. And Laura and Milo have had a very bitter falling out. And so I think Marjorie kind of like was added on to that feud.
Tim Miller
I'm sorry, I must interject here really briefly since you mentioned, Milo, that after. Later in the evening, after I had another drink at this MAGA cocktail hour, whereas where I was accosted by Carrie Lake, when I asked Laura, I went up to her a little later and I was like, why did you intervene on my behalf? And she said, there's another homosexual at this party I have my sights on. And then ended up. She ended up getting up in Milo's grill and like they started screaming at each other in a different corner of the bar.
Sam Stein
I'm sorry, what does that mean? She can only go. She has to even Ledger.
Tim Miller
I didn't ask any follow up questions.
Sam Stein
If I'm gonna go after one homeowner, I gotta protect the other homeowner.
Tim Miller
I didn't ask any follow ups. I wasn't going to mention it, but since Milo came up, I felt like it was important context.
Sam Stein
All right, I'm going to try to get through this. I don't know how far I'm going to get. I'm going to just read from the piece here. Rumor was referencing Marjorie Taylor Greene's alleged affair with a man who once dressed up as a street fighter character. This is all real. Okay, it's clear that Loomer real rights May was making a pejorative reference when she said Arby's in your pants. Popular right to the anatomy of promiscuous women. What Tim was discussing, I was discussing anything.
Tim Miller
I called it the roast beef burger. Like the hamburger.
Sam Stein
Okay, yeah, fair enough. All right. But in the deposition, Loomer apparently couldn't admit that was her reference point. She instead pretended that she meant green actually puts Arby's ropes.
Tim Miller
Should Will read the transcript? We might have just read the transcript. Will, could you read the transcript for us?
Sam Stein
No. Yeah, yeah, let's see how far I can. Arby's roast beef sandwiches in her pants. Here's just a small portion of the roast beef exchange. Bulger this is the HBO lawyer. So what is your basis for.
Tim Miller
I think Will should do it.
Will Sommer
All right, all right, all right, real quick.
Sam Stein
Here, let me pull this up. I got it. So what is the basis for saying she had Arby's in her pants? Loomer. Because I know she likes to eat at Arby's. Bulger. And she likes to put it in her pants. You know that. Loomer. Yeah. Bolger. She puts Arby's in her pants. Loomer. Yeah, she does. Bolger. Okay, if I asked Marjorie Taylor Greene, she would tell you that she puts Arby's in her pants. Bloomer. It's my best belief that she would tell you that. Yes. Okay. Are you making a derogatory comment about her sex life by talking about Arby's in her pants? This is a fucking court transcript. No, I'm talking about Arby's sandwiches. I'm talking about Arby's. I'm a very direct person. If I was making a derogatory comment, I would have said it.
Tim Miller
If I was making a derogatory comment, I would have called it.
Sam Stein
No, this is the best.
Tim Miller
Double beef and cheddar.
Sam Stein
Yes. This is the best part. As Will writes, not helping her case. Louver tweeted the roast beef insult again today. That would be Monday. Asking Green's boyfriend, right wing reporter Brian Glenn, quote, how it is. How does it feel to eat Arby's every day? Oh, my God. What the hell is.
Tim Miller
Well, I don't know. I don't understand the. Could you explain the reference to me there? Why would that be sexual? Maybe Brian Klein also likes. Yeah, I mean, look, he likes the curly fries.
Will Sommer
Go to Urban Dictionary. You know, I mean, it is really crazy that she's doing this thing about, you know, acting like the sandwich is in the pants and then just saying, but, you know, there's no greater meaning here. That's all I can say about it. And the lawyer at one point is just like, like, you're a coward. Like, why won't you just say what you mean? And Laura's like, what? You know, it gets very tense.
Sam Stein
I mean, she literally is saying she stuffs an Arby's Roby sandwich in her pants. It makes no sense at all.
Tim Miller
When was the last time you had Arby's, Stan?
Sam Stein
You know, I'm not an Arby's guy. I, I, I probably had it once or twice. What's their tagline? You know, something that meets. We know. I forget what it is called, but.
Will Sommer
We got, we got the we got the.
Sam Stein
We got the meats.
Will Sommer
At one point in the transcripts, Laura's lawyer just says, where's the meat? You know, kind of just joking around.
Tim Miller
All right. If anybody's from St. Louis out there, alliance choice is the place to go if you're actually looking for a roast beef sandwich in the real sense, not in the Brian Glenn going out to lunch with his girlfriend sense.
Sam Stein
Loomer back to her. She, as Will notes, is, this is like, maybe the grossest she's gotten, but it's not, like, totally out of character. She at one point declared that Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker wanted to flash his penis at women. And yet here she is at the height of her powers, arguably taking more scalps than anyone in the industry, than the journalism industry. How do you reckon that, Will?
Will Sommer
I think it's. How do I reckon it? I don't know. We live in hell, as you said, this can come off as very like. Like, why. Why are we talking about this, you know, person who's the roast beef and blah, blah, blah. But, I mean, I think it heightens and sort of underlines the way the government is run now, where you have someone like this who she just. In the past two weeks, she got the guy who's in charge of vaccines that the FDA fired, though now he's back. She got the top lawyer at the NSA fired, you know, and now the big thing is she's going after this Medal of Honor winner who got his leg nearly blown off, but when he tackled a suicide bomber, and she said, well, this guy spoke, you know, at the Democratic Convention. The army basically blacklist this guy.
Tim Miller
Secretary, Army. Is she also going after the Secretary of the army right now?
Sam Stein
Yeah, because he gave this guy the award.
Tim Miller
Yeah.
Sam Stein
It's insane.
Tim Miller
Yeah. It's a lot of scalps. And, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene is her own power as well. And seeing a lot of strange new respect out there in the world for Marjorie Taylor Green, though she was. Did you not do that? Do we not do the tweet where she called her a Jezebel yesterday? Didn't that.
Sam Stein
Oh, can we do that one? I'm gonna pull that one up. Air is Loomer tweeting yesterday. I'm going to read it. I wish at Rep mtg that'd be. Marjorie Taylor Greene got on her knees for her lord and savior as much as she got on her knees for men who aren't her husband. Just another fake Christian. Can you call yourself a Christian when your mouth is full? Jesus Christ. When your mouth is full of other men's cock. Question mark. I may be Jewish, but at least I'm not a Jezebel.
Tim Miller
One of your people, Sam. Marjorie, as a congresswoman, has kind of, I think, probably kind of a pretty mild reply from mtg. She replied she has no. Laura Loomer visually attacks those of us who are President Trump's most loyal original MAGA supporters. She has no long term relationships because she psychotically turns on everyone. Laura Loomer is the most unstable person and worst liability to ever walk into the Oval Office.
Sam Stein
What about rumors? Tweets suggest unstability.
Tim Miller
I think that's interesting. And worst ever, the OVAs. That means worse than anyone in the Biden crime family, quote, unquote. You know, worse than. I don't know, Bill to Bill Ayers ever. Worse than anybody. Wow, mtg.
Sam Stein
There is a little bit of strange new respect for mtg, I suppose.
Tim Miller
Not. Not in my quarters, but out there.
Will Sommer
She does definitely come off, I think, as a little more like, respectable here.
Sam Stein
Well, that and the Gaza stuff is kind of interesting turn for her too. So not saying she's a liberal hero or anything, but very interesting times. All right, anyone I was gonna make will do the segment while eating Arby's, but he thought that was grotesque, so.
Tim Miller
At least she could have got some curly fries instead of the roast beef. And the curly fries are kind of nice.
Sam Stein
Nice, fine, but I think that's not the point.
Tim Miller
You're not a curly fries man.
Sam Stein
I. I think you're missing the point here.
Tim Miller
Oh, okay. Well, I'm gay, so I don't really know.
Sam Stein
Did you really not know what she was referring to?
Tim Miller
I. I mean, you don't know what.
Sam Stein
Wait, hold on.
Tim Miller
She had a roast beef, big beef and cheddar in her pants. And it's like, I can't tell if you're serious. Laura.
Will Sommer
Laura did testify under oath.
Sam Stein
Wait, hold on.
Will Sommer
I need to.
Sam Stein
I'm not.
Tim Miller
I'm not.
Sam Stein
Okay, I know, I know.
Tim Miller
I could think about it.
Sam Stein
All right, folks, if you're an Arby's corporate rep who's happening to be watching this and you're interested in just sponsoring some content and advertising, I can put you in touch with the right person at the Bulwark and we can set up an exchange here. And if not, I totally understand. I don't know if I would want to be advertising off of this stuff anyway.
Tim Miller
Buy his choice. We'll take your advertisement.
Sam Stein
Lean into it. Why not? Will, any final thoughts? Or you just want to leave it there?
Will Sommer
It's a lot to take in, but, you know, this lawsuit is, is ongoing and, and I think there's more revelations ahead.
Tim Miller
Great.
Sam Stein
Oh, I can't wait. Perhaps more depositions. We'll see. All right, Tim, Will, thanks so much. Arby's. Thanks a bunch, Loomer. Keep it coming. Mtg. What is with the balloons? Thanks for the balloons. All right, that's it for us. Hopefully we never do something like this again. If we do, and if you want to see it, subscribe to the feedback. Talk to you guys later.
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Bulwark Takes: The Laura Loomer / MTG / Arby’s Scandal That No One Asked For
Released August 12, 2025
Overview
In this episode of Bulwark Takes, hosts Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer delve into the latest developments surrounding Laura Loomer, a prominent figure in conservative politics. The discussion centers on Loomer's recent deposition involving comedian Bill Maher, rumors of an alleged affair with former President Donald Trump, and her ongoing feud with Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG). The conversation is marked by sharp analysis, humor, and critical insights into the dynamics within the conservative movement.
The episode opens with Sam Stein introducing the topic of Laura Loomer's deposition, setting the stage for a deep dive into the complexities of the case.
Sam Stein [00:30]:
"We're going to get into calling us. The Fingering Trio now out there. Is that what they're calling us?"
Will Sommer [02:22]:
"She claims that this created all this trouble. She says she was banned from the plane and so she sued him in October."
Tim Miller [05:06]:
"She basically says... I'll get on these boards, I'll get a foundation, I'll get a book deal, I'll get a cable news show. And this is, this was all cost to her supposedly by, by Bill's kind of offhanded remark."
Loomer's deposition reveals allegations that Bill Maher's insinuations about her relationship with Trump have severely impacted her political aspirations. The hosts discuss how Loomer believes Maher's remarks have derailed her potential career trajectory, arguing that without these comments, she might have ascended to roles such as White House Press Secretary or secured significant media platforms.
Sam Stein [02:40]:
"I think they really want to get Bill Maher's deposition out there because I think, like, look, Bill Maher is a guy who is known to kind of stick his foot in his mouth at times."
The deposition’s premature inclusion in court records has raised eyebrows, as it contains confidential and potentially embarrassing details. The hosts express confusion over the lawyers' decision to make the deposition public, contemplating its strategic motives.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the headlines suggesting an alleged affair between Laura Loomer and Donald Trump, a claim primarily fueled by Bill Maher's public insinuations.
Tim Miller [03:18]:
"I think it's Laura Loomer. I'm just saying."
Tim Miller [07:03]:
"I think Donald Trump's dick doesn't work anymore, I guess is what I'm saying. I don't think his dick works and I feel like if it did, we would know about it."
While addressing these rumors, Tim Miller critically examines the plausibility of the affair, citing Trump’s notorious reputation and history of sexual misconduct. He questions the legitimacy of the claims, suggesting that Trump’s behavior patterns make such an affair unlikely.
Sam Stein [06:58]:
"And I find, just to be clear, you think the President of the United States dick doesn't work."
Tim Miller [07:01]:
"Should I... I don't know."
The conversation reflects skepticism towards the affair rumors, with the hosts leaning towards viewing the allegations as unfounded and part of a broader smear campaign against Loomer.
The episode escalates into an analysis of the bitter feud between Laura Loomer and MTG, highlighting personal attacks and deeper ideological conflicts.
Sam Stein [09:34]:
"They have something to do with that, at one point, Laura and Milo have had a very bitter falling out. And so I think Marjorie kind of was added on to that feud."
Sam Stein [14:13]:
"How do you reckon that, Will?"
Will Sommer [15:24]:
"Marjorie Taylor Greene is her own power as well. And seeing a lot of strange new respect out there in the world for Marjorie Taylor Green, though she was..."
The hosts dissect the origins of the feud, tracing it back to ideological differences and personal vendettas. They discuss how Loomer's antagonistic stance towards other conservative women, including MTG, has intensified internal conflicts within the conservative ranks.
Sam Stein [15:44]:
"Loomer tweeting yesterday. I wish at Rep MTG that'd be..."
(Quotes derogatory tweets about MTG)
Tim Miller further elaborates on Loomer's aggressive tactics, suggesting that her behavior undermines the stability and unity of the conservative movement.
A particularly bizarre and humorous segment of the episode revolves around a strange reference to Arby’s sandwiches in the context of Laura Loomer’s deposition.
Sam Stein [10:49]:
"Rumor was referencing Marjorie Taylor Greene's alleged affair with a man who once dressed up as a street fighter character. This is all real. Okay, it's clear that Loomer real rights May was making a pejorative reference when she said Arby's in your pants."
Tim Miller [12:28]:
"Double beef and cheddar."
Sam Stein [14:13]:
"She literally is saying she stuffs an Arby’s roast beef sandwich in her pants. It makes no sense at all."
The hosts explore the absurdity of the claim, highlighting its nonsensical nature and questioning its relevance to the broader legal and political issues at hand. They humorously mock the metaphor, emphasizing its triviality compared to the serious allegations being discussed.
Will Sommer [13:09]:
"Go to Urban Dictionary. You know, I mean, it is really crazy that she's doing this thing about, you know, acting like the sandwich is in the pants and then just saying, but, you know, there's no greater meaning here."
The segment underscores Loomer's penchant for provocative and confusing statements, adding a layer of complexity to her public persona.
As the episode draws to a close, the hosts reflect on the broader implications of Laura Loomer's actions and the ongoing legal battles.
Will Sommer [18:38]:
"It's a lot to take in, but, you know, this lawsuit is ongoing and, I think there's more revelations ahead."
Sam Stein [18:45]:
"Perhaps more depositions. We'll see."
The conversation points to the likelihood of further developments in Loomer's legal struggles, suggesting that more revelations and public confrontations are on the horizon. The hosts express anticipation for future episodes that will continue to unravel the complexities of this high-profile case.
Conclusion
In this episode of Bulwark Takes, Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer provide a comprehensive and engaging analysis of the multifaceted scandal involving Laura Loomer, allegations of an affair with Donald Trump, and her tumultuous relationship with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Through incisive commentary and a touch of humor, the hosts dissect the implications of Loomer's deposition and the bizarre Arby’s reference, offering listeners a nuanced understanding of the internal dynamics and controversies shaping the conservative landscape.
Notable Quotes:
Sam Stein [00:30]:
"We're going to get into calling us. The Fingering Trio now out there."
Tim Miller [07:03]:
"I think Donald Trump's dick doesn't work anymore... I don't think his dick works and I feel like if it did, we would know about it."
Sam Stein [10:52]:
"He's talking about Arby's in her pants. This is a fucking court transcript."
Will Sommer [15:24]:
"Marjorie Taylor Greene is her own power as well... Seeing a lot of strange new respect out there in the world for Marjorie Taylor Green."
Timestamps for Key Moments:
This summary encapsulates the critical discussions and humorous exchanges from the Bulwark Takes episode, providing a clear and comprehensive overview for listeners and those who haven't tuned in.