Tim Can’t Stop Laughing at Rand Paul’s Son’s Twitter Name

Summary

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Bulwark Takes – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Tim Can’t Stop Laughing at Rand Paul’s Son’s Twitter Name
Date: May 14, 2026
Hosts: JVL, Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller

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Overview

This lively episode of Bulwark Takes features JVL, Sarah Longwell, and Tim Miller dissecting two major stories:

1. Donald Trump's reported attempt to secure a massive $10 billion settlement from the U.S. government over IRS tax return leaks.
2. Surreal drama from the Kentucky congressional primary, culminating in Rand Paul’s son drunkenly hurling anti-Semitic slurs at Rep. Mike Lawler at a DC bar — and the group’s rampant amusement over his Twitter handle, "Astybrew1776."

With their trademark sarcasm and exasperation, the hosts dig into corruption, generational divides in Republican primaries, anti-Semitism in politics, and the collapse of GOP norms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s $10 Billion Lawsuit Against the Federal Government

[01:17 - 07:48]

• Breaking Down the Settlement:
  • Trump’s administration is reportedly pushing for a $10 billion DOJ settlement after his tax information was leaked.
  • Tim Miller reads out the report: "The Justice Department is holding internal discussions about settling President Trump's lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service...to the tune of 10 billion over the leak of their tax returns." (01:47)
• Corruption and Self-Dealing:
  • JVL is appalled by the structure: "It is Trump realizing, oh, I'm going to control the federal government, so I'll file a lawsuit, and then I'll be sitting on the other side of the table deciding whether or not to pay myself. It is insane that the law allows this." (04:47)
  • The group worries this would set a precedent: “It's just such an absurd...” (Sarah, 06:12)
• Comparing Outright Corruption to Influence Peddling:
  • Tim and Sarah debate whether it’s worse for Trump to siphon federal cash or take money from foreign or corrupt actors.
  • “Obviously, taking our money is worse, but I don't know.” (Sarah, 04:39)
• Systemic Failures:
  • This scandal is a glaring showcase for the inadequacy of anti-corruption laws post-Trump.
  • “Donald Trump will have showed us more or less everywhere there's a crack that needs to be filled by new reforms.” (Tim, 05:22)
• Emoluments Clause Mockery:
  • “They expected that voters would never let this happen...the idea that a president would bilk his own DOJ out of 10 Billy of our money would lead to a revolt.” (Tim, 06:51)
• Settlement Outcome Predictions:
  • Sarah voices skepticism: "There's no way it's gonna really be 10 billion...there'll be some kind of smaller settlement." (07:06)
  • JVL jokes about Trump’s likely “charity” defense: “He'll say it's not even going to me, it's going to charity. Sure.” (07:19)

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2. The Kentucky-4 House Race, Boomer Dominance, and Party Defections

[07:48 - 13:48]

• The Massie vs. MAGA AI Bot Contest:
  • “There’s a lot of drama happening in this Kentucky-4 House race...” (Sarah, 07:48)
  • Massie is being primaried by a candidate whose campaign posts are written by AI, one of which accidentally included the prompt itself — “write a MAGA American Patriot post about why I am a better candidate than Thomas Bass.” (Sarah, 08:41)
  • Trump is actively targeting Massie, and the AI challenger is polling better among older GOP primary voters.
• Age Demographics and Primary Outcomes:
  • Sarah details poll breakdowns that show older voters (66+) overwhelmingly behind the MAGA bot, while younger voters favor Massie — “Age 66 plus Maga AI Bot plus 34.” (09:32)
  • Reflecting on the unusual gerontocracy in GOP primaries: “Somebody's voting for 34 years after they retire in Republican primaries. How? We're never gonna get out of this.” (Sarah, 10:48)
• Joke Debate on Age Limits:
  • The group humorously flirts with the prospect of age limits for voting and officeholding, then quickly rules it out: "Are we saying voters can't vote after a certain age?" (Tim, 10:56)
• Party Switching in the Trump Era:
  • JVL ponders why more traditional Republicans like Massie don’t switch parties (or why the trend is so one-way): “Why is it that in the age of Trump...there are any R's who flipped D...?” (JVL, 12:11)
  • Tim and Sarah cite Jeff Duncan as an exception but not one who switched in office (“But he didn't switch while in office.” Tim, 12:58)

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3. Rand Paul’s Son’s Barroom Meltdown and Anti-Semitism

[13:48 - 18:19]

• The Incident Explained:
  • Rand Paul’s son, intoxicated at a bar, insulted Mike Lawler with anti-Semitic language:
  • “He told Lawlor that if Thomas Massie loses, it's gonna be because of your people. My people? Lawlor replied. Yeah, you the Jews. Paul's son responded. Do you think I'm Jewish? Lawlor asked. I am not.” (Sarah, 14:29-14:39)
• Aftermath and Apology:
  • Paul’s son apologized and claimed he is seeking help for drinking. His Twitter handle is astoundingly “Astybrew1776,” leading to uncontrollable laughter:
    • Sarah, cracking up: “Do you want to know what Rand Paul's son's handle is on Twitter? His X handle? Astybrew 1776. I'm sorry, I'm seeking out for my drinking problem. Asty Brew. I love the Constitution and I love beer and I don't like juice. That's it for Rand Paul's son.” (14:43)
    • Tim nearly breaks: “Tim can’t stop laughing at Rand Paul’s son’s Twitter name,” riffing on “Asty Brew 1776” (paraphrased, all hosts. 14:43-15:39)
• Parsing the Logic of Anti-Semitic Blame:
  • The hosts try to explain the conspiratorial thinking connecting “the Jews” to the Massie race, the Iran war, and Epstein (“Allegedly Massey. Well, Epstein is Jewish. Massey was the only one to stand up to that...Establishment...pushed back...Now Massie might lose his seat because of all the money that's coming into the district to campaign against him from some rootless cosmopolitan sources.” - Sarah, 16:09-17:19)
  • Sarah is quick to disclaim: “I should just say obviously crazy, insane, racist, all of it. Just to be clear.” (Sarah, 17:26)
• Recognition of Illogic and Absurdity:
  • JVL: “Maybe Rand Paul's kid really was just drunk and going off crazy and didn't mean anything by any...” (17:33)
  • Sarah acknowledges the incident is both insidiously prejudiced and completely illogical: “This is not logical.” (Sarah, 18:05)

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4. J.D. Vance, Fraud, and More GOP Irony

[18:19 - 20:53]

• J.D. Vance’s Anti-Fraud Task Force:
  • While Rand Paul’s son is the episode’s comic highlight, the hosts also mock J.D. Vance’s new “anti-fraud” initiative, especially in the context of Trump’s own demands for government payouts:
    • Tim: “Vance is out there saying that Donald Trump is extremely concerned about fraud and therefore they're setting up a new task force...” (19:43)
    • JVL snarks: “How about asking the government that you head to give you $10 billion is that fraud feels fraudulent.” (20:01)
  • Tim relays the best social media jab: “If it's over 150 million, no need to bother. Those are our friends. That's what we call the pardon list.” (20:40)

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Most Memorable Quotes

• On Trump’s $10B Scheme:

  • JVL: “It is Trump realizing, oh, I'm going to control the federal government, so I'll file a lawsuit, and then I'll be sitting on the other side of the table deciding whether or not to pay myself.” (04:47)
  • Tim Miller: “Donald Trump will have showed us more or less everywhere there's a crack that needs to be filled by new reforms.” (05:22)

• On Rand Paul’s Son’s Twitter Handle:

  • Sarah Longwell: “Do you want to know what Rand Paul's son's handle is on Twitter? ... Astybrew 1776. I'm sorry, I'm seeking out for my drinking problem. Asty Brew. I love the Constitution and I love beer and I don't like juice. That's it for Rand Paul's son.” (14:43)

• On Boomer Power in Kentucky Races:

  • Sarah Longwell: “Somebody's voting for 34 years after they retire in Republican primaries. How? We're never gonna get out of this.” (10:48)

• On Anti-Semitic Blame Games:

  • Sarah Longwell: "I should just say obviously crazy, insane, racist, all of it. Just to be clear." (17:26)

Notable Moments

• Tim’s infectious laughter at “Astybrew1776” left everyone briefly incapacitated with giggles.
• The episode’s overall tone veered from dead-serious breakdowns of corruption to irreverent, gallows-humor riffs, particularly at the expense of the Republican Party’s current state.

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Important Timestamps

• Trump’s DOJ Lawsuit – 01:17 to 07:48
• Kentucky-4 Race & Age Demographics – 07:48 to 13:48
• Rand Paul’s Son’s Antisemitic Outburst – 13:48 to 18:19
• J.D. Vance Fraud Task Force & Irony – 18:19 to 20:53
• Wrap-up & Reflections on Recording Together – 21:00 to end

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Tone & Style

• Voice: Wry, relentless, exasperated, but always sharply insightful.
• Core Themes: Systemic failure, loss of institutional guardrails, generational divides, the absurdity and malignity of current GOP politics, and unintentional comedic relief courtesy of Twitter and bar fights.
• Overall Vibe: For political sickos only. Constant oscillation between horror and laughter.

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For the Uninitiated

If you missed this episode, you caught the Bulwark crew at the peak of their (un)serious powers, drilling into the latest news with sarcasm, skepticism, and a side of gallows humor. Serious commentary on government corruption and political decay is balanced by the sheer absurdity of the characters (and Twitter handles) shaping America's headlines.

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See you next week for the live show!

Transcript

[Sarah Longwell]

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[JVL]

Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friends Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the Bulwark in Meatspace, together with a bonus.

[Sarah Longwell]

Are you okay?

[JVL]

That's right. No, it's high energy, Tim. Gotta bring the energy up for the live shows. All right, we're giving you a bonus because the live shows in California are coming. If you are in Southern California, in San Diego or Los angeles, go to thebullwerk.com events, get your tickets.

[Sarah Longwell]

We might have a new surprise coming for LA. LA is like a panoply of stars happening in LA.

[Tim Miller]

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[Sarah Longwell]

We'll see.

[Tim Miller]

Wait, I don't even know what you're talking about.

[Sarah Longwell]

Well, maybe it's a surprise for you, too.

[Tim Miller]

Okay, great. I love surprises. Good ones.

[JVL]

Okay, so here's the thing. This is a short episode. We're only talking about two things.

[Sarah Longwell]

One hour, 12 minutes.

[JVL]

The first thing we're gonna talk about is Donald Trump attempting to extort the federal government for $10 billion. But that's not the good subject. You have to wait. You have to. It's all cotton candy. So you gotta wait. Because part two is gonna be amazing news from the New York times.

[Sarah Longwell]

Billion.

[Tim Miller]

It's 10 billion?

[Sarah Longwell]

I thought it was million.

[Tim Miller]

Now, hold on. No, let me read this to you.

[Sarah Longwell]

What?

[Tim Miller]

Okay. The Justice Department is holding internal discussions about settling President Trump's lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service in the coming days, according to three people familiar with the deliberations. A move that could involve the government directly providing taxpayer funds or another public benefit to the president. Trump, along with two of his sons and the family business, sued the IRS for at least 10 billion over the leak of their tax returns during the president's first term.

[JVL]

Yes.

[Tim Miller]

They're arguing the IRS should have done more to prevent the former contractor from disclosing tax information to the New York Times and Pro Bowl.

[Sarah Longwell]

There's no way he's gonna take 10 billion. I was mad when it was 10 million. It's a big difference between 10 million and 10 billion, 100x.

[Tim Miller]

The reason that this story, I think, matters a great deal is I want to do some math with you. Math is not my strong suit. It's not my favorite when we do it. But these are big, round numbers, so I think we can 1000 x 10 billion plus a billion for the ballroom. What do we think the arch is going to cost?

[JVL]

Oh, I'm sure that's going to be paid for by private monies only.

[Tim Miller]

Well, they say that, and then it becomes public money. Okay, you've got the Arch, then you've got all the crypto money he's taken and all the money he's taken in for the pardons. Like the amount of money that Donald Trump has absorbed. I know we're all talking about corruption, just sort of. Yes. We all know how corrupt this administration is. The amount of money, if you added it all up, like, it's gonna a be more than anything they did with Doge.

[Sarah Longwell]

Oh, my God, not even close. Right.

[Tim Miller]

And then also, do you know how much you could pay for with the money that Trump is directly trying to put in his pocket?

[JVL]

You could buy one Trump battleship.

[Tim Miller]

That's true.

[JVL]

So our friends at the center for American Progress have a tracker on this. Here's the thing. I don't want to get too hung up on the 10 billion because they won't get 10 billion, because I don't think the 10 billion is the object. I think the object here is to get some straight cash, but also then to have a written agreement from the Justice Department, the irs, that the Trump family will never be investigated again or some such deal.

[Tim Miller]

It's interesting to me that the sons are included.

[JVL]

Right.

[Tim Miller]

This does seem.

[JVL]

Ding, ding, ding.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. It does seem like a move to somehow inoculate them as well.

[Sarah Longwell]

Yes. A lot of our New Democrats say that a billionaire should not exist. That's the 1 billion. This is 10.

[Tim Miller]

But it's our money.

[Sarah Longwell]

It's my money.

[Tim Miller]

Question. Which are you more angry about? When Trump bilks the federal government, he takes the federal government, which he now controls, directs his DOJ to pay out a settlement to him of our tax dollars. Or when they take money from corrupt people who are trying to buy either pardons or favors or other things from, like, you know, the uae, the jet from Qatar, whatever. Which is worse?

[Sarah Longwell]

Obviously, taking our money is worse, but I don't know.

[Tim Miller]

It's actually a tough one.

[Sarah Longwell]

The sand dictators don't want them leverage on us.

[JVL]

It's not tough. This is worse. But the reason it's worse, though, is actually, God help me, it's because of the process. Right. It isn't even the money. It's the idea that the. It's like the 60 Minutes lawsuit or the ABC lawsuit. It is Trump realizing, oh, I'm going to control the federal government, so I'll file a lawsuit, and then I'll be sitting on the other side of the table deciding whether or not to pay myself. It is insane that the law allows this.

[Tim Miller]

It is true that if nothing else, Donald Trump will have. Yeah, of course it is. Donald Trump will have showed us more or less everywhere there's a crack that needs to be filled by new reforms. In a post Trump world, like, how would anybody.

[Sarah Longwell]

How would you even have had a law about this before? I mean, like, who would have even possibly imagined that? It isn't even, like, what. It's the. We're paying him because of his emotional distress. Like, he's negotiating with himself. This is no different than him just like saying, I've decided to increase the. The salary of the presidency to $1 billion because I work harder than everyone. Right. Like, he didn't even release. He was supposed to release his tax returns. The tax returns previously were supposed to be really. It's like the notion that previously to this.

[Tim Miller]

That was a law, not a law.

[Sarah Longwell]

Yeah. Some legislator would be like, you know, we really should make a law that says that the President cannot engage in a settlement with himself personally and take money from the treasury directly. It's kind of like, well, isn't that covered under the emoluments? Kind of. It's just such an absurd.

[Tim Miller]

It feels like there's gotta be a legal way in which this is already on the books that it would be in violation of.

[Sarah Longwell]

But let's just say that everybody just laughed about emoluments. So he had the emoluments law, and the whole first term became a joke. Like, it became like, oh, ha, ha, ha, the hatch. We have a hatchack. You never. Trumpers would bring up emoluments again. It's like, yeah, I do think it's bad that the government is paying money to Trump's businesses. It's my money.

[Tim Miller]

You know what, though? They expected that voters would never let this happen. They expected that the idea that a president would bilk his own DOJ out of 10 Billy of our money would lead to a revolt.

[Sarah Longwell]

I'm with you. In the end. I just. Who knows? This will now be on tape and people can make fun of me if it's wrong, but I was like there's no way it's gonna really be 10 billion and there'll be some kind of smaller settlement. Yeah, it will be but one.

[JVL]

And what he'll say is, he'll say it's not even going to me, it's going to charity. Sure.

[Tim Miller]

Oh, he won't say that.

[JVL]

Yes, he will.

[Sarah Longwell]

He's done that several times.

[Tim Miller]

Charity, Trump.

[JVL]

The Human Fund. The Human Fund to. The Human Fund to feed Trump's children. But it'll be the real get. Will be the ongoing immunity and the consent agreement about. Oh, we won't touch you again. All right, you guys all suffered through that.

[Sarah Longwell]

Tim, I'm gonna make you await even more for the best part of the candy because it's a two part. I wanna talk about the Kentucky. There's a lot of drama happening in this Kentucky four house race. I wrote about it in the Triad this morning. People should read it.

[Tim Miller]

Loved your Triad.

[Sarah Longwell]

Thank you.

[Tim Miller]

Read it twice.

[Sarah Longwell]

Oh, really? Thank you. It was really good. Most people who are viewing this, I assume are, especially if you're real sickos, are like familiar things are getting a little tense. We can say in the pro democracy Democratic coalition with regards to the primaries. You know, we're in primary season. There's some hard feelings. If you care at all about the Michigan Senate primary, you're probably familiar with the very hard feelings on both sides and all three sides really of that race that is also happening in Kentucky. But this might not be as visible to our audience. People might not be as familiar. We have Thomas Massie and he's running against. Do we have to even. I'm not even going to say his name. He's like literally a MAGA AI bot.

[JVL]

Okay.

[Sarah Longwell]

To the level that his Facebook posts are AI posts. And he screwed it up one time and put in the prompts. So he posted a Facebook post that included the prompts like write a MAGA American Patriot post about why I am a better candidate than Thomas Bass. So anyway, this race is happening there and among the drama, there was a confrontation at a bar. But before we get to it, I just thought this poll was kind of interesting. I want to share right now. Massie, who. It's like not the greatest really, but he stood up to Trump and Epstein stood up to Trump in the war. Better than nothing. He is losing by. What is it? He's losing by about five points. So it's close inside the margin of

[JVL]

error to the AI guy.

[Sarah Longwell]

To the AI Magabot.

[JVL]

Sure, why not?

[Tim Miller]

And cause Trump is spending like Trump is after him. Trump wants his ass.

[Sarah Longwell]

Are you ready for this? Age 17 to 25 Massey plus 25. Age 26 to 35 Massey plus 56. 36 to 45. Massey plus 38. 46 to 55 Massey plus 17. Age 66 plus Maga AI Bot plus 34. So if you have a mama looking at the camera, if you have a Maw Maw in Kentucky, four, please call her and bring her back from the edge. Turn off the tv, turn off the Newsmax and let her know that Tom Massie's been a good representative for her. So anyway, that because most of the vote in rural Kentucky in a Republican primary is 66 plus, I don't think

[Tim Miller]

they have anybody who's between 18 and 34. Those people move out of Kentucky.

[Sarah Longwell]

Exactly. So it's not great and it's a little concerning. And it made me wonder, maybe think a little bit about. And Sarah did a big ode on yesterday's next level to the boomers who are protesting. And we love boomers and we appreciate everybody who's listening to this. But you do wonder if there has to be an age like when the founders came. It's kind of like the guns thing. When they created the Second Amendment, we were talking about muskets. We were talking about voting laws initially. I don't think we expected people to, like, live to 100, you know, and so now we have. It's from 66 to 100.

[JVL]

We have to cut all this. This is terrible.

[Sarah Longwell]

This is your worst take from 66 to 100.

[JVL]

Horrible take.

[Sarah Longwell]

Somebody's voting for 34 years after they retire in Republican primaries. How? We're never gonna get out of this. We're never. One of the reforms we might want to consider.

[Tim Miller]

Hold on. Are we saying voters can't vote after a certain age? No, I thought you were going to

[Sarah Longwell]

say that's a horrible term. I want to consider.

[JVL]

Stop.

[Sarah Longwell]

I'm just throwing it out there.

[Tim Miller]

I thought you were going to do age limits.

[Sarah Longwell]

Candidates for candidates and voters after 80.

[JVL]

I have a different gripe. I have a different gripe, which is so.

[Sarah Longwell]

I'm sorry. Viewers over 80, we love on the Democratic side, they're great.

[Tim Miller]

Have them be mad at Tim, but

[Sarah Longwell]

it's just like we're never gonna have a normal Republican again. These people, they're living for 30 years, their brain is mush. They just watch Newsmax all day.

[Tim Miller]

Counterpoint. The Youngs are 50. They've got. They're not coming up.

[JVL]

I'm sorry. Look at Clavicular and tell me the Youngs Are better.

[Sarah Longwell]

Okay, well, what's all of our ages? Okay, maybe 38 to 47 are the suffrage for 38 to 49 year olds. 51 year old, 53. 37 to 53 year old suffrage.

[JVL]

That's great. I sneak under the wire. Listen, why is it that Thomas Massie can't switch parties?

[Sarah Longwell]

Oh, well, he's anti.

[Tim Miller]

Have you met Thomas Massie?

[JVL]

I'm sorry.

[Sarah Longwell]

He doesn't want the government to do anything.

[JVL]

John Ferman. John. Everybody's like, oh, John Fetterman might switch parties. We're making a real effort to switch. Why is it that in the age of Trump, the crazy, norm buster, fascist, authoritarian stuff, you have a. Not insignificant. Like, you know, you can count on two hands. Probably the number of D's who flipped R over the last 10 years. I don't think there are any R's who flipped D except for our friend

[Tim Miller]

Arlen Spector in Pennsylvania.

[Sarah Longwell]

It's like 100 years ago.

[Tim Miller]

Well, I mean, I remember it.

[JVL]

No, I meant in the age of Trump. Except for from zero. Didn't we get. No, we got one in.

[Sarah Longwell]

It was like a Georgia, North Carolina state. Georgia, right. Oh, yeah. Jeff Duncan.

[JVL]

Jeff Duncan's Jeff Duncan. You're right.

[Sarah Longwell]

Shout out Jeff Duncan. He's in a primary.

[Tim Miller]

Well, he's the best. But he's running as somebody.

[Sarah Longwell]

As a Democrat.

[Tim Miller]

That's right. But he didn't switch while in office. Right. This is a question. If you're.

[Sarah Longwell]

That's a little bit, I guess.

[JVL]

But if you're Tom Massey, he could

[Tim Miller]

run as an independent, I guess.

[JVL]

But if the president is spending all this money. So run as an independent. Right. I mean, anything to not. Right. I just. The lack of self respect for these guys to be like, yeah, I'm gonna stay in the gang that's trying to stomp me out.

[Tim Miller]

I'll just tell you that.

[JVL]

Come on, man.

[Tim Miller]

That argument for Murkowski or for Collins was like a little bit closer. You could kind of see maybe Murkowski doing it. But like Thomas Massie, he's one of these guys who sends out Christmas cards with all of his families. Like with atm.

[JVL]

Sure.

[Sarah Longwell]

He doesn't think the government should exist.

[JVL]

The two biggest things are Epstein and Iran. And he's. He's on the side anyway.

[Sarah Longwell]

All right, now, the candy related to that race. So there's a lot of tension. Rand Paul is on the Massey side. Set this out. Most of the party is of course, on the side of the maga. AI, boss? Sure. And there was a confrontation last night in D.C. me and Sarah were in DC. It's too bad we weren't at this bar. We were at the wrong bar last night, apparently. But Senator Rand Paul's son drunkenly accosted and hurled anti Semitic insults at Representative Mike Lawler at a Capitol Hill bar on Tuesday night. We've heard a lot of pearl clutching among the Mike Lawlor class, the establishment Republicans about the left wing anti Semitism. It's a big problem. It's interesting. Rand's son told Lawlor that if Thomas Massie loses, it's gonna be because of your people. My people? Lawlor replied. Yeah, you the Jews. Paul's son responded. Do you think I'm Jewish? Lawlor asked. I am not.

[Tim Miller]

He's Catholic.

[Sarah Longwell]

Paul's kid. Oh, wow. I'm so sorry for calling you a Jew loser. And then they. And they get into an extended verbal fight at a bar over this right as we were coming on. Rand Paul's son has issued a statement about this confirming that it's true. Last night I had too much to drink and I said some things that don't represent who I really am. I'm sorry. And today I'm seeking help for my drinking problem. Now here it is. Here's the good part. Do you want to know what Rand Paul's son's handle is on Twitter? His X handle? Astybrew 1776. I'm sorry, I'm seeking out for my drinking problem. Asty Brew. I love the Constitution and I love beer and I don't like juice. That's it for Rand Paul's son.

[JVL]

Oh, bro, I'm sorry for trying to impose anything that makes sense here. Why would it be the fault of the Jews if Thomas Massie loses the Republican primary?

[Tim Miller]

Hmm. I think you are trying to impose like some kind of like, logical.

[JVL]

No, like, is this like a thing that I just don't know about?

[Tim Miller]

So I do think that a big part of the discourse right now involves blaming the Jews for literally everything.

[Sarah Longwell]

I can feel this one.

[JVL]

Okay.

[Sarah Longwell]

It's hard for me to. So, again, not endorsing this. Don't clip this. I can get inside Rand Paul tasty brew at 1776's head. I believe. And I believe the thinking would go something like this. The Jews got us into the war in Iran.

[JVL]

Okay.

[Sarah Longwell]

Okay. Thomas Massie is the only principled person besides his dad that was against the war in Iran.

[JVL]

Okay.

[Sarah Longwell]

He is being. Well, also, in addition to that, the Jews were pretty involved in the Epstein child sex trafficking ring. Thomas Massey.

[JVL]

Allegedly.

[Sarah Longwell]

Allegedly Massey. Well, Epstein is Jewish. Massey was the only one to stand up to that. So across these two issues, we're going to blame the Jews for both of them. Beebe's fault for the war. Epstein was Jewish. And then the establishment, if you will, pushed back at his father and his father's friend Thomas Massie for speaking out about this. People such as Mike Lawler. And now Thomas Massie might lose his seat because of all the money that's coming into the district to campaign against

[JVL]

Thomas Massie from some rootless cosmopolitan sources.

[Sarah Longwell]

Correct.

[JVL]

Okay.

[Sarah Longwell]

I think that that was a real journey.

[Tim Miller]

I wouldn't have put any of that

[Sarah Longwell]

together, but I think that is what has happened.

[JVL]

I just think that this is.

[Sarah Longwell]

It's crazy. I should just say obviously crazy, insane, racist, all of it. Just to be clear.

[JVL]

In fact, from the point of view of Thomas Massie, him being able to differentiate himself from the maga bots by actually being against the war, which most magas are gonna be against, probably helps him. Net. Net. I guess what I'm saying is maybe Rand Paul's kid really was just drunk and going off crazy and didn't mean anything by any.

[Tim Miller]

No, I think Lawler's.

[JVL]

Because it seems like a bunch of nonsense.

[Sarah Longwell]

It's the establishment. The establishment, the money.

[JVL]

Okay?

[Tim Miller]

It doesn't matter what his actual religion is.

[Sarah Longwell]

You said it. The money was coming in from the so called rootless cosmopolitans. They're running the ads going after Massie again. He's hammered. This is not logical.

[JVL]

Sure.

[Sarah Longwell]

Okay, fair. I mean, there's some elements of going after Israel for their involved, you know, for participation in the war in Iran. The stupid war.

[JVL]

Do we know? Has JD weighed in on the prime

[Tim Miller]

on the bar fight between Rand Paul's

[JVL]

son and any of it?

[Sarah Longwell]

Right.

[JVL]

I mean, I assume JD is in his heart where Massie is. On Iran we should send in.

[Sarah Longwell]

And on Israel we should send in a request for comment.

[Tim Miller]

I think he's busy. I don't know if you've noticed, but J.D. vance announced today they're starting a new fraud task force in the White House.

[Sarah Longwell]

He's been tweeting about it.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, no, he returned to Twitter, remember he had his Lenten thing and then it went on a little longer maybe. We thought the shitposter in chief was gonna be off.

[JVL]

Well, it's the Easter season. It's the Easter triduum, actually. I wouldn't expect you to know, but it extends beyond Easter Sunday. Okay, you then gotta get out to, you know, laudate Sunday.

[Tim Miller]

Got it.

[Sarah Longwell]

Well, he really.

[Tim Miller]

Do you Understand the words he just said.

[Sarah Longwell]

Well, I do, but I was just.

[JVL]

I don't.

[Sarah Longwell]

I thought the JBL was just at a different level of Catholic from my Catholic. And I was like, maybe people do give things up for Len.

[JVL]

I'm at a lower level of. Kathleen, you were an altar boy.

[Sarah Longwell]

I was not. Are you kidding?

[JVL]

I thought you were an altar boy.

[Sarah Longwell]

My brother was an altar boy. No, thank God. I wasn't an altar boy. Could have been traumatic.

[Tim Miller]

Okay, anyway, so that was a cantor.

[JVL]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Miller]

This is gonna be off the rails. We're getting off. The point is, J.D. vance returned to Twitter to announce the anti fraud and Donald Trump. And I saw Don Jr. Tweeting about this. Vance is out there saying that Donald Trump is extremely concerned about fraud and therefore they're setting up a new task force because this is his priority.

[JVL]

How about asking the government that you head to give you $10 billion is

[Tim Miller]

that fraud feels fraudulent.

[Sarah Longwell]

I hate to not give credit to the person, so I apologize. The funniest post I saw on this on social media was a part of the. J.D. vance's announcement, I believe was 150 million. But whatever the number is, he said that previously the previous administrations had not been looking in or not been investigating or indicting people for fraud under a certain amount. Right. Because it's a waste of time. They're just going for the big fish. It's like, not us. We're gonna go after even the small fish who are defrauding only the small fish.

[JVL]

In fact.

[Tim Miller]

In fact, if it's over 150 million, no need to bother. Those are our friends.

[Sarah Longwell]

Yeah, those are our friends. That's what we call the pardon list. The people that defrauded for over 150 million. What a day.

[Tim Miller]

What a day. Well, what a day.

[Sarah Longwell]

I'm going out tonight. I might see where Michael Oller's going. See if there's any other.

[Tim Miller]

What's that bar the Magazol hang out with?

[Sarah Longwell]

I'm not going to Butterworth's tonight. I'm not going to Butterworth's.

[Tim Miller]

It's probably a good.

[Sarah Longwell]

That's it. Yeah, I'm gonna stay away from that.

[JVL]

That's great. Show Mere Shabbos. I don't roll on. Show Mere Shabbos. Okay.

[Sarah Longwell]

Anything else? You're seeing us in person. Do you want to.

[JVL]

Seeing you in person. It's great. A little weird again. I just feel like in a weird way, the vibe on this is a little more stilted than it is when we're all in our little boxes. I felt that. Have you not felt that?

[Tim Miller]

I don't think it's stilted. I think it is different to be in a studio and maybe it's just

[JVL]

physical discomfort at being near people. I don't know.

[Tim Miller]

Okay. Well, I also think most of our reps have been on, you know, in our boxes. But it's nice to see you.

[Sarah Longwell]

I like getting out of my hole. Let's touch.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[Sarah Longwell]

Okay. What a show. Well, you are welcome. We did this for you.

[Tim Miller]

This is an extra 20 minutes just for fun. I hope you guys enjoy.

[Sarah Longwell]

There will be in the next level feed next week, Sam is going to California because JVL wants to get back into his box. So it'll be Sam, and Sam can't have him. Soon enough, we'll be in California and we'll do a. Whatever you want to call. We need kind of when one of us isn't there, we need like, another word for the next level. Like what it is. If it's because it isn't real. I mean, it is, but it isn't, you know? But you will be getting something in your feed.

[JVL]

Why don't people workshop that in the comments?

[Sarah Longwell]

Appreciate that.

[JVL]

Yeah.

[Tim Miller]

We'll see you guys next week with the live show.

[Sarah Longwell]

Bye.