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It'S Tim Mower from the Bulwark. I have some more just really tragic, disheartening, maddening immigration news for you. And I think this story is particularly significant because it ties into a Trump foreign policy issue that I think has gone overlooked and that I wish I had a chance to talk about more this week. And that's what Trump has been doing with regards to Iran and the protests in Iran. So I want to first get into the story about what's coming Sunday and then talk to you about the implications. It is like so many of these immigration stories right now, so tragic and just blood boiling, blood curdling. Even my cortisol is spiking. Shout out to my colleagues at Ms. Now, Laura, Baron, Lopez and David for their work on this, Trump administration is planning to deport at least 40 Iranian nationals back to Iran as early as this coming Sunday. It's according to three sources with knowledge of the flight. The flight is going to be leaving from Arizona. Members of the group being deported by ICE fear for their lives, rightly if they're sent back to Iran. According to relatives and lawyers that these reporters spoke to. I want to highlight a couple of those deportees in particular. Two of them are Iranians who are gay men. They told their lawyer Rebecca Wolf that they are set to be deported on that Sunday flight. Being gay is illegal and punishable by death in Iran. They executed two gay men in 20, 22. These deportees are terrified. According to their lawyer, she said that one calls every 45 minutes begging me to save his life. She's hoping for a court to fully hear their claims before they're sent back to a country where their homosexuality is punishable by death. Both men, just for their backstory, they had fled Iran four years ago after they'd already been arrested by the country's morality police and were awaiting a likely death sentence. So, I mean, we're giving them a death sentence by sending them back to a place where they had a death sentence. We are giving these two men a death sentence. They had come to our country looking for asylum and were waiting for their asylum claims to be adjudicated. There's a third Iranian who is part of this deportation plight. Ms. Now spoke to a relative of theirs. This Iranian national has American children, has children who are U.S. citizens. They were picked up by ICE after living in the U.S. for years. Their family is afraid that he could be detained or killed if they return to Iran. This person came here as a minor and lived in the US for years. He did have a minor nonviolent criminal offense, we should say, but was regularly checking in with ice. And recently, as we've seen all across the country, ICE is picking on people who are doing what they should be doing, showing up for their check ins and nabbing them and detaining them, and in this case, potentially deporting them to Iran. This story would be bad enough as it is. Again, it's just like, really, America cannot find a way to accommodate people fleeing Iran. Isn't that the whole fucking purpose of America? You know, isn't that what the whole premise of the country, that this is a place where people who are discriminated against based on religion or based on, you know, their personal freedoms could come here and start a new life? Isn't that the story of the founders? Isn't it the story of the country? Like, we cannot accommodate this. We cannot accommodate these 40 Iranians who are trying to escape the Sharia law hell where they might be jailed or killed. We can't accommodate somebody who has American kids. Let them stay in the country or let them give them the opportunity to apply to either stay in the country or to find a third country to go to. Like, there's, there's, there's no, nothing we can do. We have to put them on a flight and send them back to the mullahs to be killed. Really, that's what we have to do right now. It's sick it's sick in any context. It's sick at any time. And the gay men, again, they have an acute fear, like, that's what asylum is. That's what the refugee system is. We welcome people who have an acute fear that they will be killed if they stay in their home country. So that is why they were. They came to America in the first place. That's why they applied for asylum. That's why they were, you know, going through that process. And for us now to decide, hey, no, we're going to send you back to a place where you had a death sentence just because you were gay. We're going to. And we are going to give you no opportunity to live here temporarily, even though you've been following the laws, haven't broke any laws, or contributing to the society. It is so fucking heinous and depraved. You would wish that everyone would just unify against this. So this policy is disgusting no matter what. We've talked about it in the context of so many other stories over the last year, but to me, this one is particularly bad because of the foreign policy implications. Now, I just want to walk back. It was not too long ago, like this month, that Donald Trump said to the protesters in the streets of Iran, continue, we support you. The Iranian regime is sick. The ayatollah is sick. The mullahs are sick. We support you. Stay out there. Regardless of what you think, the right policy should have been in support of them. You know, whether that was strikes against the regime or weapons or assistance for the protesters or other diplomatic efforts. What we said to those protesters was there would be some support, right, that you can feel good being out in the streets knowing that America will have your back. That's what the President of the United States said to them. And many of them continued protesting, and the Iranian regime started murdering them en masse. Thousands upon thousands are dead in Iran. Body bags are lining the streets in Iran because the Iranian regime is cracking down on people that are in the streets calling for their freedom, calling for economic opportunity. So to send people back to that country is insult upon injury. It's a horror on top of a horror like our country, which is, which in the, in our, in the past has been this beacon of freedom, beacon of hope in the world that said that we would support people fighting for rights and democracy abroad. In this case, said that we were going to do that again, regardless of whether you think the regime changes, the right plan or whatever the right plan was, we made a promise, public promise, to these people in the streets that we're going to support them. And instead, we pulled the rug. We've abandoned them, and as a result, many are dead. And so we are in the midst now of this brutal crackdown in Iran where the ayatollah and the government feels like they have carte blanche to execute anyone that challenges the regime. For us to just abandon those people is a moral stain on the country. Okay, like we should be doing something or we shouldn't have promised anything, Right? But at this point, we should be doing something. And instead of protecting the people that we said that we were going to protect, that we encouraged to stay in the streets, instead we're going to let them get killed and we're going to send more people to the slaughter. What? And again, you might not agree with this policy, at least it'd be consistent to say, hey, we're going to push for regime change in Iran. We're going to support the protesters, and we're going to send the people that have said they needed asylum here home because we're going to give them an opportunity in their own country. Ton of potential ways that could go wrong, like television. That at least is a consistent worldview, right? To say that we oppose the regime and that we support the protesters, but then not give them any support, let them get killed and then send a bunch of people back to get killed themselves or to be detained or to live a life always looking over their shoulder, wondering when the morality police will come for them. It is just a heinous abdication of our duty. And I know there are people out there. I know because I've seen them. I know there are Trump supporters that wanted him to act here because they do still believe in fighting these horrific oppressors. These people exist. And I just, I call on them to look at what is happening here, to look at Donald Trump promising to support the protesters, backing off that promise, letting them get killed and then deporting people who are. Are trying to flee that terror and oppression and sending them right back in to the place they tried to find shelter from here in America. It's a. It's just. It's a despicable, despicable policy that is an affront to what has made this country special, even in flawed. What has made our country special for so long. So hopefully some attention can be raised about this. We've seen them back off. So I'd encourage people to contact their representatives about this Iranian deportation flight that's coming on Sunday and try to encourage them to put the brakes on it. Because it is a wrong policy at any time. But in this moment, it is an absolute disgrace. Subscribe to the feed. Appreciate you guys. We'll see you soon.
Episode: Trump Deporting Gay Men to Iran Is a Death Sentence
Host: Tim Miller, The Bulwark
Date: January 23, 2026
In this urgent episode, Tim Miller from The Bulwark dissects breaking news about the Trump administration’s plan to deport at least 40 Iranian nationals, including two gay men, back to Iran—a move Miller calls “blood boiling” and “depraved.” The episode ties this deportation to broader U.S. foreign policy toward Iran and reflects on the moral responsibilities of America regarding asylum and human rights. Miller’s tone is passionate, angry, and deeply principled, calling listeners to action.
Tim Miller’s delivery is candid, emotionally charged, and direct. He does not mince words when naming the cruelty or hypocrisy he sees in this policy, peppering his analysis with strong language and pointed rhetorical questions meant to jolt listeners into moral reflection and action.
This episode exposes and sharply rebukes a Trump administration policy to deport vulnerable Iranian nationals—including gay men facing deadly persecution—back to Iran. Tim Miller details the fates of those at risk, decries the betrayal of American asylum and foreign policy promises, and implores listeners to take immediate action to stop a humanitarian disaster. The critique is both intellectual and visceral, underscoring the gap between stated U.S. ideals and current immigration enforcement. Miller’s message: this is a shameful and urgent situation that demands outrage and intervention.