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Hey everyone, you're about to watch a video of me, Andrew Egger, and Tim talking about a incredibly racist video that Donald Trump posted late last night. We recorded our take on it early on Friday morning. By the time we were done, shortly after the White House had decided actually going to take this thing down. Now, they had earlier defended the video, saying, ah, it's just a meme from the Lion King. But after a number of other Republican lawmakers subsequently said you should take it down, they decided to take it down. They also said, and I kid you not, that it was erroneously posted by some staffer. Doesn't quite make sense because it went on Trump's own Feed at 11:44pm with a number of other crazy posts that we also got into in our video. So to believe that, you'd have to believe that some staffer was just sitting up through the night posting directly to Trump's account. Probably not the case. My theory is that the staffers share him videos and he decides to post themself, but that's their excuse for this one. Anyways, we want to make sure that when you saw our take on this that you understood that we recorded it prior to the White House erasing the video. Hope you enjoy the take. All right, folks, it's happened again. It's happened again. Our President has done something pretty damn racist. Hi, I'm Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bulwark here. My bud, Andrew Egger. We are going live even though this happened overnight, but it's kind of blowing up right now. Last night at around 11:45pm The President United States, as he frequently does, was on a posting rampage. Uh, literally just go check True social. It's nuts. So many weird videos. I don't know where he gets these clips. Maybe we can get into that later. But among them was one of the more racist things I've ever seen from a president. Definitely the most, one of the most racist, maybe the most racist thing ever seen for president. Let's play the clip and you guys can just sort of discuss amongst yourselves then Andrew, I'll take your thoughts after that. Let's play it. Or we can just look at the screenshot of it when we get the.
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C
Important information is being communicated by the screenshot, right? I mean this is.
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B
But basically yeah, until we connect. Yeah. Go ahead Andrew, describe it.
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C
Yeah, so very, very weird. Should we watch like the full video the thing. But this is like a two second clip of the Obamas superimposed onto the bodies of dancing apes. The two second clip comes at the end of about a minute long totally unrelated video that the President posted which was also insane about, you know, totally invented election conspiracies. 4G Internet connected microchips embedded in voting machines, changing ballots from him to Biden in Michigan in 2020. So the whole thing was insane. It was not this exact same thing. There's nothing racist in that original 60 second video. Then there's this random two second clip of a different video posted by a pro Trump creator last year. So it's.
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B
Well hold on, we actually have the video now.
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C
Let's see the whole thing.
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B
The whole thing and then we'll talk about it on the back end. But let's play the whole video now.
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Initiated by a court order, the Michigan investigation team obtained forensic access to a DS200 tabulator, the machine that counts as votes. A Telet 4G wireless chip manufactured in Taiwan was discovered embedded into the motherboard. The voting machine tapes clearly indicate modem engagement and transmission of election data. Some of the anomalies that we noticed in the 2020 general elections that five key states all stopped counting at the certain time.
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B
This is by the way disturbed, weird.
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These were all where software, the mini machines, ESNs machines. This is like the Smartmatic, your brain's being broken. So when the vote stopped counting, and this has been noted in other countries as well, President Trump was significantly ahead. When reporting and counting resumed, there was a massive spike occurred that that favored Joe Biden.
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That's where the Italian satellites came in right there.
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C
And Then back, and that's the whole thing. And it just ends. So he posts this, right? And everyone's like, you know, Donald Trump posts insane election slop all the time. So that was not necessarily so noticeable in and of itself, but people kind of pricked up their ears at the insane depiction of the Obamas there at the end, for good reason. This has been all over the Internet this morning, right?
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B
So here you have Barack and Michelle Obama depicted as monkeys. It doesn't get more racist than that. It doesn't. And anyone who wants to argue that it's like, well, he's being funny or something. No, it's just racist. Okay, now here's where it gets even more ridiculous. So the White House was pressed on this this morning, and they put out a response that charitably is insane. Carolyn Levitt says this is from an Internet meme video depicting President Trump as the king of the jungle and Democrats as characters from the Lion King. Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public. She shared the full video. It also depicted Hillary Clinton as a boar, Hakeem Jeffries as a meerkat. Neither of those obviously were included in Trump's post. Just a fact checking here. There are no monkeys in Lion King. I believe we have a graphic of the Lion King characters, if we can put it up, because we do journalism here. Can we put up the Lion King graphic, please, so that people can understand that there are no monkeys in it? We'll get to that. We're running a little slow today, but the charitable explanation here is our president wasn't trying to be racist. He was just up late at night posting weird Internet memes and conspiracy videos. And that, as a defense is so ridiculous, so insulting, so pathetic, that you gotta laugh at it.
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Andrew.
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C
Yeah, I mean, a lot of this comes back down to like the like insane, nihilistic, sort of half ironic posture of what so much of right wing, like, meme culture is like the idea, oh, that wasn't racist. That was just a meme is like such a funny, ludicrous thing to say on its face because so much of what this right wing meme culture draws on is just like the broadest, most ridiculous stereotypes and caricatures and, and, and bigotry and I mean, like, just really awful stuff. Like the idea, oh, you know, we, we weren't doing black people as apes for racist reasons. We were just doing it for funny Lion King related reasons. I mean, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is straightforwardly crazy. But I think it does also point to something that's like, kind of new about the way that Trump approaches media now in his second term. It's weird because he was all over Twitter in his first term, but he wasn't like, consuming a lot of Twitter. He would consume a lot of tv, he would consume cable news, and that was like, what he. How he got his, you know, screen time for the day. Ever since he built Truth Social, he has been noticeably different in the way that he approaches just sort of like being on the screen. And it is that he is actually mainlining his own algorithm of like the craziest, most slop filled, most hate filled, most lunatic studded website out there. And he's just on it all the time. He's like up all night long when he should be sleeping, just scrolling and reposting stuff that he thinks.
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B
That's so true. And we're gonna get to some of that stuff. Like there's some other videos. I'll push this to the end of the, of our discussion. There's some other videos that if you just went through his truth feed and see what he was reposting, you'd be like, oh my God, like you have an addiction. You got to put this down. And your algorithm is so fucked, it's feeding you nonsense.
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C
His brain was already so cooked before this. And like, the degree to which he is like, in sloppifying his own mind every day cannot be over overstated.
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B
I believe we are able to post the Lion King visual at this point. Look at that. Here we go. Okay, folks, there are no monkeys in here.
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C
There is one monkey. Apes. There's a monkey. Rafiki's a monkey.
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B
Oh, yeah. I'm so sorry.
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My.
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B
My apologies. There's that. He's the one with the staff. I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit behind on my Lion King knowledge.
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C
My kids are. There are no Lion King right now.
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B
No, there are no apes, so it makes no sense. Again, we don't need to equivocate. It's racist or deranged or a combination of the two.
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C
Usually. A combination of the two these days. With the, with the.
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B
Yeah, but I think here's where I come down. It's like if this was a one time thing where, you know, he just happened to stumble upon a video and maybe he didn't watch the whole way through and blah, blah, blah, whatever, you would have more willingness to excuse the behavior. But this is just obviously a pattern for the guy and you know, he'll be out there saying he's the least racist person in the world. But I think fundamentally, there's just an obvious pattern where. Whether it's the Central Park Five stuff, whether it's, you know, depicting Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and sombreros, you know, just how he talks about Mexicans, how he treats black female reporters. There is a clear, established pattern. And to deny it is to actually be. What's the word? Subjective. You want to be honest about these things, and you have to go ahead.
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C
There's a head in the sand element to it. I mean, you could go on and on and on. I mean, the whole kind of premise of his sort of immigration policy, which is that we're importing the Third World, you know, become the Third World.
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B
Patience. Cats and dogs.
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C
Feeding cats and dogs. The only refugees he wants to let in are Boer farmers, white guys from South Africa. You know, I mean, just. It's a pretty standard pattern of behavior and policy from the White House. And I do think, like. I mean, there has been. It's. On one level, it's kind of funny to see reaction from. From, you know, some Republicans this morning who are like, oh, gosh, you know, the president's really crossed a line with this one, because on the one hand, we're here talking about it. It was totally insane. Like, it's jaw on the floor sort of stuff. And on the other hand, it's like, where you been for. For all this?
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Where have you been? Where have you ended? So let's get to that. So Tim Scott, who is the senator from South Carolina, he runs the National Senate Campaign Committee, which is charged with electing Senate Republicans, is a way to write on Twitter. You can see right there. Praying it's fake. It was fake because it's the most racist thing I've seen out of this White House. The president should remove it. First of all, this White House is interesting. It should be a White House. Although I guess pre Civil War, you could probably say there's some more racist things and maybe even in post Civil War and Reconstruction.
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C
I like the implication of the most racist thing I've seen out of this. No, that's not true.
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B
Woodrow Wilson did screen some Nazi propaganda in the White House. I suppose you can count that here. Um, but also, it go. Well, I was gonna say it raises the question, what's the second most?
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C
Right, Exactly.
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Like, does he have a ranking system? What's the third most? I. I'd be very curious for Tim Scott's response to that. Also, it's not fake. They're out there saying it's real, it's real.
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And I mean the, the, the, the one like if you wanted to do the Steel man of All Steelman, the weird thing of the, of it being like randomly attached to the end of this other video, like, okay, maybe he's like screen grabbing or somebody else's screen grabbing. And they meant to do most of the, the election stuff, they accidentally got a little of slop in there by mistake. If that had happened, which is like, not a totally implausible reading of like just the video itself, but the White House could have very easily gotten up this morning and been like, oh, you know, like, actually didn't mean to share the ludicrous racist slop. We only meant to share the election slop. Instead they go to the mass defending it because they do know this is their people. I mean, it's like it's, it is this, this video was created by this guy. You can see his watermark up there on the screen. He's just like an AI right wing maga griper meme guy. And he's followed by various people inside the White House. Harmeet Dillon follows him on X. Donald Trump has posted his content multiple times before. If you've seen, if you remember that video that Trump posted very famously during the latest no Kings protest of him flying a fighter jet with King Trump written on the side and dropping payloads of human feces all over the protesters at the no Kings march is the same creator who made this stuff. So this guy's content is obviously coming up in Trump's truth social algorithm all the time. And like I was just saying, he's cooking his brain even more and more and more every day on just the grossest, dumbest, most ridiculous content you can imagine.
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Tim Miller is going to join us in a bit, I think, because he can't resist. I will just let me say about, on that point about, well, this is just, you know, it's a little snippet in the larger video. I'm sorry, like, even if they had and they didn't try, you're right, they didn't try to spin it as, oh, he didn't know what was in the video. Even if they had, like, I, I don't, I don't think you can responsibly give them the benefit of the doubt here. Like, this is the President of the United States with the biggest platform in the world. There is a responsibility to post and know what you're posting. And then on top of that. The history of what he has done. Like, this is a deeply either unwell man, but also it's a man who is pushing racist into everyone's feeds.
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C
Yes.
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And you don't get to say. Well, you know, it was just a snippet of the video. He didn't watch the whole thing. No, that doesn't. That doesn't fly. Tim. Welcome to the chat, buddy.
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Hey, what's up? I was excited to jump on the live chat because I just taped the pod for today. David French, he's awesome. And I was so mad at myself. I don't know if you guys have covered this, because we did cover the Lion King, what we're talking about. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, it's been a minute since I watched the Lion King, and it didn't occur to me that there actually aren't.
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We talked about this.
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There are. There's a monkey.
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There's the one guy with the stickies.
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C
There are no apes.
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There are no.
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C
But there are no apes.
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He's plural. There are no apes.
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Very famous opening scene of the Lion King with the sun coming up over the horizon and everybody bowing at Pride Rock. There are a lot of monkeys in that scene. So, like, it's also not true. There's only one monkey. There are no apes. Sorry, my kids.
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Can we pull up. Can we find a photo of that original?
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We've already played it.
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Yeah.
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Let's put it up again. Put it up.
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No, no, not the picture.
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B
The Lion King.
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I want the Lion King picture.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Well, that's not the photo he's talking about, but. Yeah, I don't know.
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But this is the whole cast. Okay.
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Okay.
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There's one monkey with a staff. What's his name? Andrew?
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Rafiki. Rafiki is the monkey with the stat. The idea of going all Zapruder on this, like, aha. You know, like, what are we.
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Well, I think that's on Zapruder. It's just a fair point that, like, look, we. All we could do is take them at their word. They could have said, donald Trump didn't see that. He's very sorry. Sends apologies to Joe Obama. That would have been one option. They didn't do that. They said, guys, calm down. This is just a Lion King meme. And, like, Rand and, you know, Hillary Clinton was a boar. Okay. I mean, Hakeem Jeffries was a meerkat. That makes it better. He was the meerkat. Hakeem Jeffries. And. And they happen to be gorillas. And it's like. Well, it's pretty relevant then about whether or not the Lion King has a gorilla or not. If you're gonna take them at their word. That. That was the point. I, I think it's a pretty big hole in the spin. That's all I'm saying is that.
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B
No, no, I just think that even.
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C
If it were completely innocuous and like, like, if, if we all went back now and we all had completely forgotten that, oh, wait, there actually is an ape at some point in the Lion King, how would that, like, materially change anything about this?
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B
Andrew the Man. Andrew. Andrew the man is cooking.
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E
Get out of the way.
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B
We got Bob.
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How would it materially change it? How to materially change it? It would go from racist gaslighting to just racism.
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C
Yeah, okay. That's meaningful. That's true.
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That's how it would materially change.
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C
I do think the gaslighting. The gaslighting matters because they, they, you. You can tell that they cannot abide even throwing the original meme creator under the bus. You know, like, because, because it's one of their guys. This whole right wing ecosystem. Like, you can never apologize for it. You can never say anything. And it was actually bad.
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E
The other thing.
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B
Hold on.
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Have we discussed other questions?
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I'm gonna, I want to bring a little. Or to this. Because if they were to abide that he accidentally posted this, if they say, oh, well, he didn't steal a thing, would raise the question of, like, why is he up doing posting anything at this hour? Like, what is he doing through the night? And so I do want to play. Can we get the, the dog video ready? Because these are the, this is the other that our president is posting at like, and I want to be very precise here. The dog video comes at 10:55pm I'm watching Industry, okay? Like, I'm doing normal at that hour. This, this, the president is posting. Let's put the dog video up and play the dog whipped cream video. This is the shit he's posting. What the. What the. What the.
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C
What was the other one? Wasn't there one more? That. There's one more 50 things.
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There's so many. The other the pulled. The two I pulled out is that one. And he just randomly posted a Bruce Lee video, which is like, we'll play seven seconds of it or something. This is a 1056.
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E
Okay. I mean, Sam, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry to be pretty focused on the racism here. Instead of, Instead of grandpa posting, you post some. You post some questionable things. Late at night. We went to Your Twitter archive. So, yeah, it's not great. It's not great that the president apparently has insomnia and maybe some light dementia and is posting, like, racist stuff and, like, random AI slop. Like, that's not great. Have you guys dug in? I'm sure you have, but maybe I could cook for a second on the rest of the racist video. To me.
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B
Yeah, the election.
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Yeah. To me, this is the key. The key thing, because I, like, I saw Edgar and Slack, you know, I just. I don't. I'd seen the screenshot, but I didn't notice from. And so I was like, I wonder what. Like, what was the context of this? You go and click on the video that he posted where you have the racist guerrilla stuff at the end. And the video is insane. The video is about Dominion again. Dominion, who Fox had to pay 800 million to. The video is about a theory that the machines had a hack where Trump was. Where. When Trump reached a certain level, then they shot up Biden at the end. Like, that was. The video he posted was that our voting machines were hacked. And then at the end of the video, it's like, our voting machines were hacked. And, oh, by the way, the first black president was a monkey. Like, that was just like a little aside, but, like. So my point is that, you know, even if the defense is he didn't see it, which isn't their defense, their defense is he saw it and he liked the Lion King meme. But even if someone were to say he didn't see it, it's like, the actual video he posted that he. That he wanted to post is extremely pernicious. As far as, you know, you don't want the president posting that you can't trust voting machines. Like, that's. I would think that everybody could agree that there are some problems with that.
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B
Yeah. No, no.
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Scott is the only one who's. And Mike Lawler. Mike Lawler wasn't sure. He wasn't sure. Maybe he hadn't seen. Maybe it was an accident. It was kind of a fat finger retweet. That theory doesn't really work for Trump, though, because his fingers are so small.
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C
This one was not even a retweet. He himself, his account posted the video. It's not a ret. Right. He had some staffer had downloaded it and he fired it out.
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B
And both, I will say both these Republicans, the two, all of two who have weighed in so far, and it's been 12 hours almost since he posted it. So Tim Scott and Mike Lawler are the two that we know who've weighed in. Two prominent ones, both of them have this, like, hilarious, very telling caveat in their statements where Tim Scott's like, I'm praying it was fake. It's like, you know it wasn't fake. You see it with your own eyes. And Mike Lawler says, whether intentional or a mistake, they can't just acknowledge that this man did something wrong. Surely he had to have been duped into something. Meanwhile, the White House is saying, of course he did it.
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E
It's kind of similar to. Did you see the evangelical who posted that maybe Trump didn't get a good briefing on what the prayer breakfast was supposed to be?
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B
No, I missed that. What was this?
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E
Did somebody brief Trump that this was a prayer breakfast? And it's like, yeah, that's right there in the name. Prayer Breakfast.
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B
It's the National Prayer Breakfast. Yeah, they're trying to, they're trying to explain his comments yesterday and like, excuse me. That way.
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C
I think Donald Trump maybe understands the National Prayer Breakfast as it's currently constituted a little bit more than probably that guy does.
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E
Yeah, probably.
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B
I'm looking for more reactions online. And I'm, I have this column of MAGA people on Twitter that I follow. No one's talking about on that. They're trying to ignore it as much as they can avoid. And I'm not seeing much from members of Congress.
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E
I just say there's A lot of sometimes defeatism. And I have, I submit to this black pilling nihilism. This doesn't matter. Who cares what Trump says? People have elected him twice. Like, there, that is, you know, there is some good reason to be black pilled because I do think probably, I don't know, somewhere in the neighborhood of like 55 million Americans see that and they're like, yeah, and so that's pretty concerning. But, like, there's a meaningful segment of people that don't like to see Trump's overt racism. Like there really is. And you saw this and you know people now, there's like this. Looking back on the politics of George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, there's kind of this conventional wisdom that, that like, backfired for the left because of the overreach and all that. And maybe it did eventually. But like, in the moment, like, part of the reason Biden won was that there was like, backlash among, among a certain demo of people that were like, I don't like this. Like, I don't, I don't want to feel like I live in a racist country where the President is a racist. And, and so I do think that it is not me. Like, this isn't just cotton candy. I don't think. I think that as a, as a layer on top of his other political problem, problems, I don't think it helps.
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B
I want to believe you. I do. And I think there's probably a good bit of truth to that. But look, I mean, what was 2024, really? A large part of it was like, oh, we've gone so PC. We have to call. We should call people retards. All the minorities are getting all the benefits and, you know, woe is the white man. Like, that was it. And I know this is an extreme example of racism and that's not quite it, but I do think, yeah, I think there's a good, like you said, I think there's a good chunk of people that are totally fine with this and probably look at us as we yell and scream about how racist this is and say, grow the up. It's just a meme, you know, take a joke and shit like that. And I, I fear honestly that there's two very different conversations happening.
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C
And it can kind of be both. Right. I mean, it can, it can be the fact that on balance, this does not help Trump get to 51% of any given electorate. Right. Like, I think that's, I'm totally with Tim on that, by the way. I think that, I think that America Writ large does not like this. At the same time, we're coming up on a decade plus of the most prominent guy on the right constantly training everyone who likes him in this, in this song and dance of, actually, it's not that bad. Actually, it's fine. Actually, you guys are the crazy ones for thinking it's bad. You know, like it poisons people's minds. Every, every new instance of it is like, frustrating. Further moral training in, like, holding your nose and pretending that obviously bad things are fine and good. And that is actually, like, he continues to pump this sewage out into the public sphere. And there are people who keep drinking it.
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B
I mean, let me give you another, Let me give you another example of how this, how far we've come. It's like there's plenty of prominent people, Nazi curious people on the right who say horrifically racist things about Usha Vance, right? And even the vice president doesn't speak out against those people, right? He does. He, he bites his tongue. And some of these people get audiences.
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E
Really, really pushed on it. He'll be like, yeah, I don't think, I don't, I don't like Nick Fuentes that much. I don't think he's a great guy, right?
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B
But he, he would never proactively speak out. And, and I think, you know, I might be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But I do think there's a part of the right wing officialdom that's been kind of conditioned to just say, this is who our voters are, and we don't need to denounce it, nor should we, because we don't want to sever or we don't want to cleavage our own voters against us. And that's a problem when you have two lawmakers total. One of them the most prominent black lawmaker in Republican circles and the other one the most endangered moderate. If that's all you can get to say this is wrong. And even then they are like, well, maybe he did it accidentally.
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He did it by accident. Have we heard on, on his rankings of the top most racist things the White House has done so far? He said no, but this was number one.
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B
Do you have, do you have a second?
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E
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. You think about that? I have some. There's some also, I think it's important to tie this to direct policies. So, you know, we have what's about to happen in Springfield and what's already happened in Minneapolis and in Maine, where they're going after people based on their accent, based on black folks here's something from Carlos Espina, who I had on FY Pod. He's a, he's a Latino influencer. He was going through the worst of the worst website of the people that they, you know, that they claim that they've gotten an administration. And he noticed he recognized somebody, Jean via Farah, who's a famous Colombian soccer player. He was arrested in Colombia in 2020 and has been in custody for 11 years. He's never lived in the U.S. was not a migrant, was not captured, but they have him on their database to inflate the numbers. There's another story. Yeah.
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B
Jesus Christ.
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E
Not a white guy. I would just say there's no story. I talked about a little bit with French today, but I think is relevant to this. Have you seen the story of Godfrey wa. Wade is Jamaican. No Jamaican. He's been here for 50 years. He was in the military for eight years under, you know, one of the, like, kind of there are some programs you can serve in the military even if you're not a citizen. He never got full citizenship. He was detained by ICE for five months. He's been in ICE detention. They're sending him back to Jamaica this week. Today. He's been here for 50 years, and he served in the military. We kept him in detention for five months. I, I.
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B
How did he stay there for five months? Like, I've always been curious about this. Like, does he not get a hearing? Like, under what grounds are we detaining him for five months?
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E
Yeah, they're really backed up. And this ties to the, what's. Her. I don't know how to pronounce her. Julie Lee.
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B
Julie Lee, yeah.
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E
Yeah. In that story, she's like, the, the Minnesota judge is basically saying, you know, the, the courts have told them to release, like, there are a couple dozen people and they haven't done it, and they are in, in contempt of court, in violation. And so some of this is cruelty is the point stuff. Some of this is just backlog. Like, they don't have, they still don't have the, like, you know, the arms and legs to do what they want.
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C
Yeah.
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E
And so some of this is that. Some of that's incompetence.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, I got nothing else to add on this stupid racist Lion King thing. Andrew, anything you want to end?
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C
No, I think we hit, I think we hit it.
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E
Andrew, how's the text chain going? How's your MAGA text chain? You're on a couple MAGA text chains. Any, any, Anything firing up this morning?
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C
Nobody. Nobody's talking about this one.
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E
Okay.
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C
I don't have.
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B
I've been waiting.
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C
Logged in.
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E
We'll keep an eye out for it. All right. Good to see you guys hopping on.
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B
I appreciated that. Thank you. And I really appreciate Andrew holding our feet to the fire about the actual animals. Monkeys in the Lion King.
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C
They're different, it turns out.
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E
Yeah.
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B
And I really. What I really appreciate is him coming. Coming in hot, saying, you know, there's no gorillas. Oh, man. Okay. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Hey, for those who have watched, thank you. I was really enraged by this. I hope I didn't swear too much, but, you know, sometimes you gotta get mad at. And you can get that at the Bulwark. So become a subscriber. Follow Andrew Egger on morning shots. Follow Tim and his pod, one of the best pods in the business. Follow us at Bulwark tends to subscribe. Well, you're not quite at number one in the rankings.
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E
On the rankings, does McDonald's have the best burger in the market just because it has the most sales? I don't think so. I think there are better burgers out there than McDonald's.
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B
We got to give you something to aspire to. Okay, buddy? All right, take care, guys. I'll talk to you later.