Bulwark Takes: Trump Says He’ll Choose Iran’s Next Leader (w/ Marc Polymeropoulos)
Date: March 6, 2026
Host: Tim Miller
Guest: Marc Polymeropoulos (Retired CIA, co-host of Eyes on Geopolitics podcast, author of Clarity in Crisis)
Overview of the Episode
This episode dives into the chaotic U.S. policy toward Iran in the wake of Donald Trump's statement that he must be involved in picking Iran's next leader. Tim Miller and intelligence veteran Marc Polymeropoulos break down the unprecedented approach, assess the interplay between the U.S., Israel, and regional actors (particularly the Kurds), and discuss the policy's wider implications: regime change, covert action, brain drain from government agencies, and failing alliances. The episode is fast-paced, skeptical of the Trump administration’s planning, and rich with first-hand perspective.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Trump’s Statement on Selecting Iran’s Next Leader
[01:30 - 02:23]
- Trump announced he must be involved in picking Iran’s next leader, shocking both observers and foreign policy veterans.
- Polymeropoulos explains that while the CIA has historically been involved in coups, having a president openly declare such intentions is “preposterous.”
- Normally, covert actions involve identifying and recommending individuals for leadership, with the President giving approval based on interagency processes—not personal selections.
Marc Polymeropoulos [02:23]: "The idea that he’s going to kind of pick and choose is rather preposterous. … If he thinks he can do that in Iran, choosing a leader, you know, from a regime that has the blood of 30,000 Iranians on their hands, this is getting crazy."
Israel’s Role and Diverging US-Israeli Interests
[04:07 - 07:30]
- Miller notes the unpredictability and lack of secrecy in Trump’s pronouncements:
Tim Miller [04:07]: "What’s the David Frum line? There are a lot of secrets but no mysteries with Trump."
- Polymeropoulos outlines Israel's approach: They want Iran weakened, possibly arming ethnic minorities (Kurds, for example), and are less concerned with humanitarian issues like the deaths of protesters.
- There is a likely split between US and Israeli post-war goals. Israel’s support for chaos and civil war in adversarial states (like Syria) is a recurring pattern.
Marc Polymeropoulos [06:30]: "They’re quite happy to see kind of a mess ensue in Iran… What do they want, a weak(ened) Syria? … It’s fascinating to see how this moves along."
Kurdish Gambit: Arming the Kurds and Regime Change
[07:30 - 12:01]
- Discussion shifts to leaks about the U.S. arming the Kurds in Iran. Initially dismissed as fake news by isolationist MAGA circles, it now appears to be happening.
- Polymeropoulos draws from personal experience working with the Kurds and shares a poignant warning he received from a Kurdish leader:
Marc Polymeropoulos [08:34]: "We’re going to cooperate now, but you’re going to screw us in the end. You will betray us. And by the way, I know it’s coming…"
- Providing arms to the Kurds requires a formal presidential “finding,” which equals a regime change directive. The risk: arming the Kurds could spark civil war and regional backlash (notably from Turkey).
- There is a lack of experienced personnel to manage these complex operations, raising significant concerns about planning and competency.
U.S. Special Forces, Mission Creep, and MAGA Contradictions
[12:01 - 13:30]
- Miller points out the irony: Trump ran against “forever wars” but now appears to be escalating military involvement, deploying U.S. (and potentially Israeli) special forces and mobilizing reserves.
- The Pentagon has discussed ongoing deployments that could extend for six months, which directly contradicts Trump’s campaign rhetoric.
Marc Polymeropoulos [12:38]: "We’re talking… that’s six months from now. This is getting to be exactly what Trump said he would never do."
Brain Drain and Agency Dysfunction (CIA & FBI)
[13:30 - 17:35]
- Miller asks about CIA Director John Ratcliffe. Polymeropoulos calls him “an enigma” who is rarely at the Agency and more interested in White House access—and petty rivalries.
- The broader issue is “brain drain”: Senior, experienced analysts and operatives are leaving, leaving the government without deep expertise needed for complex operations like those in Iran.
- Cash Patel’s firing of Iranian specialists at the FBI just prior to hostilities is called out as “crazy,” jeopardizing U.S. preparedness for terrorism threats.
- Key point: Highly specialized knowledge about Iranian plots and history is irreplaceable—a major vulnerability in the event of retaliation.
Marc Polymeropoulos [17:11]: "Having… experienced people [means] you have to know everything about the target. … You’re always one really horrible mass casualty event away from that really coming home to the American people."
Ukraine’s Trolling, Drone Warfare, and Flawed Planning
[17:35 - 20:49]
- Miller notes President Zelensky’s public offer of Ukrainian expertise on countering Iranian drones, which can be read as a subtle dig at U.S. needs.
- Polymeropoulos praises Ukraine’s willingness but accentuates the underlying problem: U.S. planners failed to anticipate the Iranian drone threat, a vulnerability now being exploited.
- The evacuation of Americans was also poorly planned, and the operation’s overall execution lacks forethought.
Marc Polymeropoulos [19:47]: "I don’t shed any tears that the Iranian regime is getting their butts kicked. I just don’t know if we know what we’re doing just after that. … We’re really in uncharted territory now."
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Trump’s self-assigned kingmaking:
"[Trump] just says things off the top of his head. We all react to it—could be true, might not be true, but I don’t think they know what they’re doing right now." —Marc Polymeropoulos [02:06] - On arming the Kurds and regime change:
"In order to do that…if you’re providing weapons to the Kurds to foment an uprising in Iran, that is regime change." —Marc Polymeropoulos [09:40] - On US-Israeli divergence:
"The Israelis actually don’t care other than Iran is weakened. … For them, that’s what they want. It’s a weakened state." —Marc Polymeropoulos [05:48] - On the danger of poor planning:
"We’re at it again. Here we go again with my Kurdish friends." —Marc Polymeropoulos [09:31] - On U.S. government brain drain:
"I have no friends left there. Literally…you lose people with expertise like myself who would have said, really the Kurds?" —Marc Polymeropoulos [14:31] - On terrorism preparedness:
"You’re always one really horrible mass casualty event away from that really coming home to the American people." —Marc Polymeropoulos [17:31]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 01:30 — Introduction of guest & Trump’s statement on Iran
- 02:23 — How regime change & coups are (supposed to be) handled
- 04:07 — Trump’s lack of secrecy, Venezuela analogy
- 05:03 — Israel’s interests versus U.S. goals in Iran
- 07:30 — The Kurdish gambit and historic betrayals
- 09:56 — What is a ‘finding’ and its significance for regime change
- 12:38 — Trump’s shift from anti-war rhetoric to escalation
- 13:51 — Ratcliffe, CIA, and government brain drain
- 15:13 — Cash Patel fires Iran specialists at FBI
- 17:35 — Zelensky’s offer, Ukrainian drone expertise, policy blind spots
- 19:47–20:49 — Mixed personal feelings, uncharted territory
Tone & Style
- The conversation is candid, skeptical, and tinged with frustration (especially from Polymeropoulos).
- The approach is both accessible to non-experts (clear explanations of terms like “finding”) and rich with insider insights.
- Humor interspersed (mocking “Secretary of War,” referencing MAGA contradictions) keeps the tone sharp without descending into partisanship.
Conclusion
This episode provides a sobering, critical look at the Trump administration’s Iran strategy, highlighting the unprecedented nature of presidential bravado about regime change, the fraught dynamics with Israel and the Kurds, and the dangerous lack of planning and expertise in key government agencies. Listeners come away with both historical context and the sense that the U.S. is entering deeply uncertain—and potentially perilous—territory.
