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Sam Stein
Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bullock. I'm joined by Andrew Egger, author of Morning Shots. We're here to talk about some breaking news in a trend that many people have noticed about Donald Trump. Kind of a verbal tick maybe. All right, Andrew, today, which is Thursday, at her press conference, White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt led off with some breaking news about the current situation in Iran, saying that the President is going to actually pump the brakes a little bit, give a small window for maybe a diplomatic solution to manifest. And here's what she had to say and I'll get your reaction on the other side.
Carolyn Levitt
Now regarding the ongoing situation in Iran. I know there has been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the media regarding the President's decision making and whether or not the United States will be directly involved in light of that news, I have a message directly from the President and I quote, based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks. That's a quote directly from the President for all of you today.
Sam Stein
Okay, let's start with the substance. If you're, you know, following this Closely, I think you are of the mindset that you'd like to see a diplomatic resolution. So I think this is a good sign. Probably we were pretty close to just yesterday. In fact, the Journal's reporting that Trump had signed off on authorizing the strike. Was just waiting for the moment to say, go do it. So this seems like a little bit of a let's lower the temperature move. Is that how you read it?
Andrew Egger
Yeah, I mean, well, don't let Bill Kristol hear you say that, but yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot.
Sam Stein
Of throwing your co author under the bus.
Andrew Egger
Yeah. There's a lot of diverging opinions about military strikes in Iran at thebullwerk.com, yeah, I think that anybody in the more kind of dovish side of the president's coalitions breathing a sigh of relief over this, especially just because he seemed to be ramping himself up so quickly. Right. I mean, it was like on a sort of psychological level where he was like, just getting really into the idea of like, threatening the mullahs with extinction and the ayatollah, you know, like, hey, we know where you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is a little bit at least of a recalibration away from that. And we'll see. You know, we'll see. Maybe he's posting again tomorrow, but. But yeah, at least for the time being, it seems.
Sam Stein
Well, we know there's two. We at least have two weeks. And that brings me to my next part here. My ears perked a little bit. Two weeks. I feel like I heard, heard that before. And lo and behold, he gives everything two weeks. And this is not a notice. This seems to be his preferred measure. His measure, unit of time is two weeks. Have you noticed this?
Andrew Egger
Yeah. Let me read you an Axios headline from actually the first. My first week as a professional journalist in early June of 2017. Trump's timeline. Question mark. Always two weeks. The Axios headline summing up a Bloomberg piece from that same week. Taxes. We're going to be announcing something, I would say over the next two or three weeks. Wiretapping. I think you're going to find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks. Infrastructure. We're going to make an announcement in two weeks. Does the same thing three weeks later on. Infrastructure. We've got the plan largely completed. We'll be filing over the next two or three weeks. He does. There are like 15 different ones of these. This. And again, this was just like the opening five or six months of the First Trump administration, he has never really slowed down. Anytime he is, like, asked to contemplate a thing, a rollout, or like a question that he has not fully interrogated, there's not the ball rolling forward on it yet. There are basically two moves he can make. The one is what he did last summer during the debates and stuff. It's like the concepts of a plan thing. It's just like, you can just admit that there's no real action happening yet. You get kind of embarrassed over that. People make fun of you, they dunk on you, or you can just say, oh, yeah, we're totally working on it and it's totally coming. We're nearly there. About two weeks from now, we'll have more to say. And he almost always has been, has been opting for the latter whenever he's.
Sam Stein
Asked this question, and it's something that's continued to his second term in office, I should know. And it's not just with the Iran nukes. Let's play a few of them here. One, here he is talking about whether he'll get a read from Vladimir Putin on whether there's a resolution in the offing for Ukraine.
Donald Trump
You trust President Putin, you know, in about two weeks.
Andrew Egger
Is Ukraine doing enough to get this?
Donald Trump
To get this, I'd rather tell you in about two weeks from now, keep.
Andrew Egger
Saying two weeks about President Putin. What is two weeks? Give us, what is the actual date?
Donald Trump
What is the timeline? Two weeks or less. And if it's a little more at the time, I say, but, you know, they're losing a lot of people.
Carolyn Levitt
See those little dates up at the top. April 27th, May 19th, today is May 28th.
Richard Karn
So two weeks.
Carolyn Levitt
Two weeks. Two weeks. Now, we're still two weeks away.
Sam Stein
There's a couple times where he said two weeks. I believe the dates were April 27th, May 19th and May 28th. Just spanning a few weeks itself. Here's Trump at the Kennedy center on June 11, talking about how he's going to give countries their tariff designations, and you guessed it, two weeks.
Donald Trump
But we're dealing with Japan, we're dealing with South Korea, we're dealing with a lot of them. We're dealing with about 15 countries, but as you know, we have about 150 plus, and you can't do that. So we're going to be sending letters out in about a week and a half, two weeks to countries telling them what the deal is, like I did with eu.
Sam Stein
So there you have it. And then, as you noted, you know, recommendations for a couple other things. Paris climate accords. You mentioned bomb wiretaps, healthcare infrastructure plans, NAFTA decisions. He's also done this. And I know you're gonna push back whatever, I'm gonna throw it out there. He seems to incorporate this time frame for his executive orders, too. I was looking through a couple of them. On several occasions he's given agencies and states 14 days, which is two weeks time to get things done. In one case it was to provide recommendations for designated groups as drug cartels. 14 day deadline for agencies to do that. And he gave the Ohio schools to rid themselves of race based policies. So two weeks seems to be when he thinks things should get done by.
Andrew Egger
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Thank you for clarifying, by the way, that 14 days is the same equivalent length of time for our viewers. I'm sure.
Sam Stein
Not our forte.
Andrew Egger
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the funny thing about all this, to me, I mean, like, it's one thing to do this, like, for domestic policy, right? I mean, like, I guess, like, whatever. If he wants to be like, yeah, we're going to have a rollout on that, we're going to have a rollout on that. He can set his own timetable for like these, like, domestic.
Sam Stein
I just want him to switch it up. I want him to switch it up every now and then. Throw in like a four week or five week.
Andrew Egger
Yeah, yeah. But what's funny is what he's been doing recently, which is doing this with these global conflicts, right? I mean, it's like, you know, Vladimir Putin and Zelensky, Julius, these guys better shape up. Or two weeks from now I'm gonna have something to say and like the same thing here, right? Like Israel and Iran are beating the shit out of each other over there. And he's like, all right, guys, hold on. We're really going to give this a great deal.
Sam Stein
Let's talk about. Hold on, hold on. Let's. Let's pause for a second. Is two weeks, is that a do in your estimation? Is that a good timeframe? Is that like a substantive? Is that enough? Too little, too late? Is that the right amount of time?
Andrew Egger
You want to ask literally anybody else this question? My personal sense of time has been utterly ruined by a decade on Twitter and five years of doing daily newsletters. I cannot assess the way that normal people react or relate to the calendar.
Sam Stein
I'm aware, I'm aware that you have trouble with time lines and deadlines. Yes, I'm aware. But I'm wondering, do you think two weeks is an appropriate amount of time to get these things Done. I think it's a great, I think it's great.
Andrew Egger
Depends on the thing. I think it's totally fine to say we'll have some infrastructure news to share in two weeks and then two weeks later say we'll have some infrastructure news to share in two weeks. And to continue to do that on a rolling two week basis for the duration of one's first presidential term. I think it makes a little bit less sense to like have again like, like, like, like one of those like old cartoons where like you have like two, two people brawling abroad and like the, you know, there's, there's like exclamation points flying.
Sam Stein
If you can't do something in two weeks, it's not worth dying. If you cannot do something in two weeks, it's not worth doing. Okay, that's probably true. That includes making peace in Ukraine, getting rid of Iran's nukes, and includes building, you know, robust infrastructure and coming up with a health care plan. If you can't do it in two weeks, it's not worth doing.
Andrew Egger
Or two weeks from now, there's two weeks. You know, the sun will come out tomorrow, it's only two weeks away. Right. And that will always be the case. And that's a beautiful thing.
Sam Stein
I think that was beautiful, Andrew. I didn't know you had that in you. All right, on that note, we'll leave it there. I'll just note over your right shoulder is a beautiful smiley picture of you. What a great, what a great way to do a YouTube hit.
Andrew Egger
There used to be more art in here, but it literally fell down. So now this is literally the only thing you yell at me when I have a backdrop, colorless backdrop, my colorless clothes, my colorless skin. Just the most washed out YouTube frame on the entire website. So, yeah, so there's a picture of me hanging up back there, man, I'm.
Sam Stein
Sorry, I. I'll give you two weeks to get new art. Andrew Egger Arthur of Morning Shots, thank you so much. Thank you guys for watching. Hope you enjoyed this semi comical YouTube clip during a very serious time talk to you.
Richard Karn
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Bulwark Takes: Trump’s Bizarre Obsession with “Two Weeks”
Episode Release Date: June 19, 2025
In this episode of Bulwark Takes, hosts Sam Stein, Managing Editor at The Bulwark, and Andrew Egger, author of Morning Shots, delve into a peculiar pattern observed in former President Donald Trump's communications: his recurrent reference to a "two-week" timeframe. This long-form summary captures their insightful analysis, complete with notable quotes and timestamps, providing a comprehensive overview for listeners and readers alike.
The discussion begins with a focus on a recent press conference where White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt conveyed a significant development regarding Iran. Levitt quoted Trump stating, "I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks" ([01:42]). Stein interprets this as a strategic move to create a window for diplomatic negotiations, suggesting a temporary de-escalation in rhetoric.
Andrew Egger corroborates this stance, pointing out that Trump's expressed interest in diplomacy contrasts with his previously aggressive posturing. He remarks, "This is a little bit of a recalibration away from that" ([02:45]), indicating a potential shift in Trump's approach towards international conflicts.
The hosts identify a consistent pattern in Trump's communication: the frequent use of "two weeks" as a standard response timeframe. Egger references an Axios headline highlighting this trend, noting multiple instances where Trump cited "two weeks" in relation to different initiatives:
Taxes: "We're going to be announcing something over the next two or three weeks." ([02:38])
Wiretapping: "You’re going to find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks." ([02:38])
Infrastructure: "We're going to make an announcement in two weeks." ([02:38])
Stein emphasizes that this repeated use of "two weeks" spans the entirety of Trump's first administration and persists into his second term, suggesting a habitual fallback rather than a strategic decision-making process.
The hosts debate the effectiveness and sincerity behind Trump's "two weeks" commitments. Stein humorously critiques this as "his preferred measure, his measure, unit of time is two weeks" ([03:21]), questioning whether this standard timeframe is practical or indicative of procrastination.
Egger offers a critical perspective, stating, "He has never really slowed down... There's basically two moves he can make... or you can just say... we'll have more to say in two weeks." ([05:34]). This suggests that "two weeks" serves as a masterstroke to manage expectations without committing to concrete timelines.
The conversation extends beyond international affairs to encompass domestic policies and executive actions. Stein cites examples where Trump has imposed a two-week deadline for various initiatives, including:
Tariff Designations: "We're going to be sending letters out in about a week and a half, two weeks to countries telling them what the deal is." ([06:14])
Executive Orders: Assigning 14-day deadlines for agencies to implement policies, such as "designated groups as drug cartels" and removing "race-based policies in Ohio schools." ([06:34])
Egger humorously reflects on the absurdity of this pattern, especially in the context of complex global conflicts: "If you can't do something in two weeks, it's not worth doing." ([09:31]). This underscores a potential lack of flexibility and understanding of nuanced issues.
The hosts analyze the possible motivations behind Trump's fixation with "two weeks." Egger suggests that it may be a tactic to maintain control over narratives and timelines without delving into the complexities of policy-making: "It makes a little bit less sense to have... two people brawling abroad... like we're going to have something to say in two weeks." ([08:08])
Stein adds a layer of personal commentary, highlighting the conversational humor between the hosts while maintaining a critical stance on the effectiveness of such timeframes: "I want him to switch it up. I want him to switch it up every now and then." ([07:25])
In concluding the episode, Stein and Egger acknowledge the persistent and somewhat humorous nature of Trump's "two weeks" mantra. While initially seeming like a benign communication habit, it reveals deeper patterns of decision-making and expectation management within Trump's leadership style. The hosts wrap up with a light-hearted exchange, emphasizing the recurring nature of this timeframe in both domestic and international contexts.
Carolyn Levitt on Iran Situation: "I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks." ([01:42])
Andrew Egger on Trump's Diplomatic Shift: "This is a little bit of a recalibration away from that." ([02:45])
Donald Trump on Tariffs: "We're going to be sending letters out in about a week and a half, two weeks to countries telling them what the deal is." ([06:14])
Sam Stein on Two Weeks Philosophy: "If you can't do something in two weeks, it's not worth doing." ([09:31])
This episode of Bulwark Takes provides a thorough exploration of Donald Trump's consistent use of "two weeks" as a strategic communication tool, offering listeners a nuanced understanding of its implications on both domestic and international fronts.