Trump’s Minneapolis Raids Are Crushing Peoples’ Lives

Summary

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Bulwark Takes — “Trump’s Minneapolis Raids Are Crushing Peoples’ Lives”

Date: January 27, 2026
Host: Sam Stein, The Bulwark
Guests: Adrian (reporter and community member recently in Minneapolis), Daniel Hernandez (Colonial Market & Restaurant owner), local activists, and affected citizens

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Episode Overview

The episode dives into the direct, traumatic impacts of President Trump’s renewed ICE raids on Minneapolis' immigrant communities, especially Latino families and businesses. The Bulwark team, led by Sam Stein, brings firsthand accounts from the ground—stories of fear, economic devastation, family separation, and daily resilience in the shadow of intensifying federal immigration enforcement. The show highlights both the chaos following the tragic shooting of Renee Goode and the powerful community response determined to protect and support each other.

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1. Firsthand Reporting from Minneapolis

Community on Edge Before and After the Shooting

• Sam Stein introduces Adrian, who spent four days reporting from Minneapolis just before the Alex Preddy shooting, documenting the escalating ICE activity and community resistance.
• Adrian describes a city “under siege” ([01:29–02:50]):
  • Business owners struggling to survive (“business is down 90%”)
  • Families terrified for their kids' safety
  • Activists providing immediate mutual aid—groceries, rent help, and emotional support
  • Courageous everyday resistance: whistle alerts, confrontations with armed agents

“As we heard from Renee Goode's widow, they have whistles. Those agents have guns. So it's as brave as it looks like.”
— Adrian ([01:46])

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2. Impact on Individuals and Families

Fear, Economic Hardship, and Constant Threat

• Adrian interviews local residents (in both English and Spanish), revealing chilling daily realities:
  • Unprofessional handling and excessive violence by ICE agents
  • Even U.S. citizens feeling at risk for arbitrary arrest or violence

"They just take you over and throw you into the back of their cars."
— Local resident ([04:09])

• Fear keeps families and children indoors; business owners must risk going out to provide ([04:41–05:14])
• Traditional holidays erased by fear:

“There was no Christmas or New Year for the Spanish community because everybody was scared.”
— Resident ([05:21])

• Business activity devastated:
  • 90% drop in business for local Latino establishments ([05:50–06:02])
  • “Some of the business already closed.” — Local owner ([06:02])

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3. Community Resistance and Survivors’ Stories

Mutual Protection Amid Chaos

• Residents and activists describe real-time responses to raids ([07:24–10:19]):
  • Whistle-blowing networks, honking cars alerting neighbors
  • Entrepreneurs and activists coordinate to document ICE activity and shelter at-risk community members
  • ICE presence described as aggressive, intentionally intimidating

“You could hear that the people were saying, it's ICE. Lock your doors... People started honking, people started using the whistles, alerting people that ICE was here.”
— Local activist ([07:45])

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4. The Aftermath of Renee Goode’s Shooting

Trauma, Aggression, and Community Aid

• Adrian and a local activist describe the traumatizing aftermath ([10:25–13:56]):
  • Continuous abuse by ICE and border agents—even after violence
  • Agents use tear gas, rubber bullets; point weapons at teens, and show open hostility
  • Activists scramble to help: donning vests, bringing eye protection/masks, supporting the wounded and traumatized

“It was horrifying to see that despite [the shooting], ICE agents... were not de-escalating in any way... One of them pushed [a bystander] to the ground.”
— Community activist ([11:32])

“They were openly like they had their arms, their weapons out... to create fear. They were shooting some of the rubber bullets. One of them hit a 16-year-old.”
— Activist ([12:28])

• Stark scene:

“You could still see the blood... they were trying to block it off... trying to really hide what was happening.”
— Activist ([13:59])

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5. Coping with Ongoing Trauma and Mobilization

Mental Health and Collective Resilience

• Frontline witnesses struggle to process relentless trauma, unsure how to support others while caring for themselves ([15:10–16:49])
  • Many families remain housebound for weeks, fearing any outing could lead to arrest or violence
  • Community workers—often equally at risk—grapple with “never being prepared for this,” but carry on through collective support

"We have to continue doing this knowing that we can't promise anybody that we will be okay, that we will be safe, because we don't...[but] we're just doing the best that we can to take care of each other, because if we don't, we can't take care of the community."
— Activist ([15:51])

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6. Adapting and Preparing for More Raids

Community Networks and Mutual Aid

• Activist teams monitor helplines tracking ICE activity ([17:20])—hundreds of daily calls from fearful community members
• No sign of enforcement slowing; even U.S. citizens afraid to leave home

“Many of these people are also US citizens...are terrified because of all of the instances where they have arrested US Citizens, people with status, people with green cards that are being questioned, and people, regardless of status, are terrified.”
— Activist ([18:36])

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7. Community Business and Solidarity

The Story of Colonial Market & Restaurant

• Daniel Hernandez (owner) on immigrant entrepreneurship and the crisis ([20:40–24:00])
  • 25+ years in Minnesota, running businesses for 14 years
  • Colonial Market a key Latino hub, offering familiar foods and goods
  • Business down from $1 million/month to $170,000 due to raids ([22:35])
  • Offers daily updates, free grocery delivery, and logistical support to families hit by ICE actions

“The sales began dropping at the beginning of 2025 when President Trump took office. My sales began dropping dramatically by month. We used to sell $1 million per month.”
— Daniel Hernandez ([22:15–22:35])

• Organizing city-wide mutual aid:
  • Collaborates with Mayor Fry, Minneapolis PD, National Guard to protect and support affected families
  • “DOPA” — legal arrangements for community members to care for children of deported parents; nearly 2,800 executed in 2025 ([24:15])
  • Pushing for community-based food aid that keeps resources in local shops

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8. Closing Messages: Resilience and Defiance

• Sam Stein and guests highlight the fierceness of local solidarity—going beyond stereotypes of “Minnesota nice” ([19:34–20:38])
• Ordinary people, many with no prior activism, are standing up: “This is no longer an issue of left or right...but it's really about our humanity that is being questioned, our Constitution that is being questioned.”

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Memorable Quotes and Moments (with Timestamps)

• Adrian: “As we heard from Renee Goode's widow, they have whistles. Those agents have guns. So it's as brave as it looks like.” ([01:46])
• Local Resident: "They just take you over and throw you into the back of their cars." ([04:09])
• Business owner: “There was no Christmas or New Year for the Spanish community because everybody was scared.” ([05:21])
• Activist: “They were shooting some of the rubber bullets. One of them hit a 16-year-old.” ([12:28])
• Activist: “You could still see the blood...they were trying to block it off...trying to really hide what was happening.” ([13:59])
• Community activist: “We can't promise anybody that we will be okay, that we will be safe, because we don't...but we're just doing the best that we can to take care of each other, because if we don't, we can't take care of the community.” ([15:51])
• Daniel Hernandez: "We used to sell $1 million per month." ([22:35])
• Daniel Hernandez: “Between January and December 2025, we did 2,757 dopas total. And most of the kids...I would say 90% of them were US citizens.” ([24:15])
• Activist: “This is no longer an issue of left or right or where you stand on that line, but it’s really about our humanity that is being questioned, our Constitution that is being questioned. And that’s why people are willing to stand up for one another.” ([19:34])

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Key Timestamps

• [01:29] Adrian recounts tensions and courage in Minneapolis community
• [03:10–04:09] Local resident on ICE violence and fear as a US citizen
• [05:21] Christmas and New Year’s lost to fear
• [07:24] Activist describes ICE tactics and neighborhood response
• [10:25–13:59] Aftermath and trauma of Renee Goode shooting
• [15:10–16:49] Coping with trauma and supporting the team
• [17:20–19:02] Ongoing threats, mutual aid, inability to guarantee safety
• [20:40–24:15] Daniel Hernandez on the devastation of business and community activism

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Tone and Atmosphere

The episode maintains a stark, honest, sometimes emotional tone. Urgency, exhaustion, fear, and defiance pulse through every story. The language is direct, first-person, and empathetic, reflecting the chaos and courage of the Minneapolis community under extreme pressure.

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This episode is a must-listen for those seeking to understand the human cost of aggressive immigration enforcement—and the fierce resilience emerging in response.

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[C]

Hey everybody, it's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bulwark. I am joined by my buddy Adrian, who's just back from Minneapolis. Adrian, you were on the ground there. Now this I just want to caution people. This was before the Alex Preddy shooting. You left like a day or two beforehand, but you were there for about four days. In the thicket of this intense situation between ICE and people in the city. You saw a lot, you followed on a lot of people and you filed two great newsletters. People should subscribe to Huddled Masses. It's the best immigration policy newsletter in the business. But tell us about what you saw. I was on the ground for four days in Minneapolis before the shooting. But even before the shooting you could tell that activists and just people in the community were were truly fighting back and truly as brave as what we've seen in the folks in the general strike protests after in the ice Watch people that are showing up and confronting these agents. As we heard from Renee Goad's widow, they have whistles. Those agents have guns. So it's as brave as it looks like. I mean I spoke to business owners who are trying to survive whose business is down 90%. I spoke to people who are trying to protect kids from being taken and giving handing out food and doing delivery groceries. And I spoke to an activist who is just doing some really strong work with helping folks in terms of rent assistance and in terms of helping people with the things that they need in these moments. In this moment where Minneapolis has been under siege. I think you guys will really enjoy the video. I hope you check it out. So the agents started coming in December and obviously in January we have this horrible shooting. Can you just repeat to me what you were telling me in Spanish about what you thought when you saw the video and how it made you feel.

[D]

The shoot of the Rene who could be avoided and many others shootings as well can be avoided. Like I think so there was like unprofessional. Some people like they don't have like enough training for this kind of situation how to handle it. And then they just trying to create the worst for the Spanish community to get afraid and get scared I think. And like we saw Mona videos that the way how they treat the Spanish, even American citizens to get like basically kidnapped because they get taken away, they know they go nowhere and then it's very sad to see this to come up to until this situation that people get killed and it's not worth it.

[C]

How do you feel as a US Citizen if they could do that to a white woman?

[D]

Well, I feel every day scared to vote because like you guys have many cases that just gets stopped and they just, they don't give you the. Basically they take away a freedom of speech and then you just like open the cars, put hands caps and they just like four or six agents, they just take you over like and just throw into the back of their cars.

[C]

Do you have family?

[D]

Yes, I do.

[C]

Wife, kids?

[D]

Yeah, I have my two kids and my other baby and they're not going out. So they're staying home because afraid because you never know what they want to do to the kids.

[C]

I think it's obvious. But do you have to work for them that's why you have to keep going out?

[D]

Yes, yes. Because otherwise there's no. Like you said, the business is low but still try to make up some benefit to cover the bills, to put food on the table. So that's our everyday going out, risking life if we stay home alone, nobody's going to pay the bill for us.

[C]

You said there was really no Christmas or New Year's here. You said that basically in December, they started coming. Could you talk about that?

[D]

The beginning in December, I started hurting the economic over here because people are afraid going out. And there was no Christmas or New Year for the Spanish community because everybody's scared. Was scared. Afraid to go out because the way. How was the situation?

[C]

How much has your business dropped, I'm curious, from maybe December 1st of what it usually would be to now since.

[D]

The Death star, we're like 90% say about the business. We just barely making enough to cover the bills.

[C]

But did you say the business has dropped like 90%?

[D]

Yes, because we basically receive, like, Spanish community almost right now. We support for American community. That's why they were just staying off for a little bit. But just. Just like, it's crazy how this thing is going on and some of the business already closed.

[C]

I was speaking to somebody earlier, and he didn't seem like a bad person, but he seemed like a Trump supporter that was supportive of what's going on, even though he's lived here his whole life, a white man. And I guess, what would you say to someone like him? What would you say to people who support Trump's policies, either in Minnesota or in the country, about what this is doing to businesses like yours and to American citizens like you?

[D]

This is not like doing something good for the people or the community is, like, political. I feel like it's just damaging the whole country. Like, they should be, like, more professional to do this kind of job, to go just go after whoever's, like criminals, like special criminals, you know, like Slaughter or their dad. They're not doing that. They're just most doing, like the families, the working classes going out to work and just basically taking away the kidnapping, you know, taking the freedom to speech, everything.

[C]

Can you talk about what you saw going on here? Ice here, ice on every block, and then you going out and you recording.

[E]

Whistles, all that right outside. We're located by Longfellow Market. A lot of the neighbors go there, groceries, small items. And we were sitting here, I was having a meeting, and we started seeing people run out of the store. That was last week, on Wednesday. And at that point, I mean, those of us that were here went outside to try and figure out what was happening. And you could hear that the people were saying, it's ice. Lock your doors. They started running all the way. It's like a block and a half into the small businesses here. And people there were able to close the door, get everything locked up. We locked up this building here. Part of the team stayed here just to observe, talk to the neighbors, talk with the people that were in Longfellow Market. And then three of us went in the car to see if there was more ICE presence on Lake street or just trying to figure out what they were trying to do. And as soon as we started driving down Lake street, we were able to observe that there were ICE vehicles at every stop, single block, and they were. You know, one of them was parked in the McDonald's, one of them was parked at CVS. Some of them were hard to tell that it was ice. You really had to get close to see, you know, the. The uniform and the covered faces there. Some of them were in pickup trucks, other. Others were in vans. Others were in smaller cars. So it was. It wasn't like you could easily identify. But we could see because we were driving down to figure out what was happening as people started noticing, and they were intentionally waiting for people to come out to. You know, as people started noticing, people started honking their cars. People started using the whistles, alerting people that ICE was here. One of the team members was driving. I was in the back recording. And it got to a point where we were hearing the whistles and the honking every single direction. And it did feel very frustrating just to see that it was intentional, that they were doing it on purpose, getting people off guard, and making several arrests that day. The folks that were here in the building that stayed behind were able to record an arrest that got violent, where they used tear gas. And there were also becoming very, very aggressive in just their words and their physical actions. So that day in particular was just a reminder, right, that they're using different tactics, they're strategizing in new ways just to be able to arrest as many people as possible.

[C]

This was after the shooting of Renee Goode, correct? Yeah, I know that. You.

[E]

You.

[C]

You heard about that. I was listening to the podcast, and one of your colleagues, you could tell that something serious was happening. It scared you how serious they were. And you got there, and it was sort of the aftermath. And I think that sounds horrifying and traumatic for you and your staff at the same time. You were there for an event that is like this now, this historic and this flashpoint for this, for what's going on here in your city and in your community. Can you just talk about, like, getting there and some of the aftermath of what you saw?

[E]

Yeah, and I was precisely sitting here because we were also observing the street, just keeping up with the activity that's happening here on Lake Street. And that's when I got the call. And yeah, as soon as I started hearing her voice, she tends to be really calm and just even in high stress situations, it's really rare. I had never heard her as concerned and people, we had people from the team that were already on their way. But when I heard her voice, I also grabbed two other team members and I was like, let's go. We grabbed the materials, we have vests so that community members know that we are there to support, to help de escalate, to help with folks that are trying to get out of there safely. So we took some vests, we took eye protection, we took the masks for the irritants that they use and we headed there. When I got there, I know the focus was really on the community member trying to figure out what had happened to Renee Goode, if she was still alive was a question. And it was horrifying to see that despite that happening, that the ICE agents of border patrol people that were there were not de escalating in any way. They were continuing to be verbally aggressive with people. I mentioned that there was one individual who was recording from afar. It wasn't even close, not in the middle of anybody where one of the agents pushed them to the ground. At the same time, on the opposite end, we had the other team members that were supporting people that had already tear gas in their eyes and they were openly like they had their arms, their weapons out and you know, on purpose pointing at people to create fear. They were shooting some of the rubber bullets. One of them hit a 16 year old. But another team member that was standing next to him directly, he was just terrified. He was like, you know, they were aiming at us and they, for no reason other than creating fear and intimidation. And in many ways it felt as if they were almost enjoying it in a way that you could see it in their eye expressions. They were laughing, they were joking. And it's incredibly terrifying to see that level of disconnect from the humanity of the individuals there. It's crazy to me that they would see a 16 year old with his sister and see that as a threat. It's just the disconnect from the humanity. It's terrifying.

[C]

You were shocked by the amount of blood you saw, right? Including like in the snow.

[E]

Seeing that, seeing the violence, seeing what's going on and trying to make sense of all of it just puts your body into a shock mode of whole like what are we dealing with? What is, what are we dealing with? Why are we, to this point, they were trying to keep people away. They had, I mean, they had so many vehicles that they were just blocking the entire street. And you, I mean, you could still see the blood, but you could see that they were trying to block it off. You could see that they were trying to really hide, you know, what was happening. And that was also something that really made me upset because it was almost as if you had one part of the team just trying to cover it up, get the agent that shot Renee Goode out of there, while also trying to not de escalate, but really, on the contrary, continue to upset the people that had witnessed that. It just felt unreal.

[C]

You are helping people get through a traumatic situation while you yourself are dealing with a traumatic situation of you and your staff. How do you even do that? How do you, I don't know if you separate them, how do you do that?

[E]

I think we have to be mindful that all of us doing this work have been impacted in one way or another, that we continue to be exposed to this violence, that we continue to be exposed, exposed to even the stories of community, you know, that they're being vulnerable, they're sharing with us what occurs. And I mean, you know, 8, 10, 12 hour days of being exposed to that. It does something to you. And I think we have to be mindful. And that's always my fear, right? Like, how can we tell the team, hey, we have to continue doing this knowing that we don't know. We can't promise anybody that we will be okay, that we will be safe, because we don't. And how do we make sure that we are taking care of each other? Mental health, you know, our needs, our personal needs. We all have families that have, many of them have been home for weeks that we are also trying to take care of as we're doing the work. So it's complex and it's difficult. But I do think that, and it sounds terrible to say this, but, you know, after Covid, after George Floyd, now Renee Goode. I feel like Minnesota has been through so much that like it or not, it has prepared us in one way or another to be able to take this on in a way that is a little bit more manageable. But you're never prepared for this. Like you can never be prepared for this. But really we're just doing the best that we can to take care of each other, because if we don't, we can't take care of the community.

[C]

I think what you're getting at is resilience and Sort of the last question I have for you, we're in this sort of quiet 48 hours. Yesterday was Martin Luther King Day. And I know that you guys believe that maybe something's being planned. The agents have not gone anywhere. Maybe you could just talk about this moment and because I think the fact that you are now dealing with the ongoing situation, like, for example, you're trying to get food to people. I mean, can you talk about this, like, little moment that we're in now? You know, we're not. We're going to see what happens.

[E]

Yeah. And as I mentioned, we've seen how the agents have changed their strategy. We've seen how they are operating. Acknowledging all of that. We are expecting to see an increase in activity this week. And with that, we are as prepared as possible. Through our helpline, we do get several hundred calls each day. So we are consistently tracking that, seeing, hey, what's happening? What are the needs of the community? How are we addressing them? And also what is the activity? With that information, we're able to better prepare ourselves. And we do think that there will be an increase this week. Hopefully not. But nothing that has occurred in these past few weeks has even hinted that they are leaving or that they are no longer going to be doing what they're doing. There are just right now also a lot of folks that are calling and saying, hey, does this mean we can go out right now, that we can get groceries? That we have one person who hasn't seen her sister in several weeks and she depends on her for medical care. And she was like, hey, is this the moment for me to go over and make sure she's okay? And it's hard, right, because we can never. We can't guarantee anybody safety. And many of these people are also US Citizens that are terrified because of all of the instances where they have arrested US Citizens, People with status, people with green cards that are being questioned, and people, regardless of status, are terrified.

[C]

I wonder what your message is like to our audience, to people who are seeing this and wondering what's going on. We hear about sort of tongue in cheek, but I think also true, like the Midwest, nice thing that, you know. But I also, I've seen, like, a fierceness in the way you guys protect each other and take care of each other and. And have each other's back. I was speaking to a restaurant owner who talked about the sense of community that you guys have. I guess. Yeah. Just curious, like, what is your message to people that are wondering how you. How you guys are doing?

[E]

Yeah, I Think it's funny that you bring up the Minnesota nice. It's there. But I think right now, everybody in our community is fed up with the violence, with the injustice, with the narrative at a larger scale that they are arresting the criminals, that they are only going for people that are doing what's wrong. And we're here, we see what's happening, we see that that's not the case. And neighbors, I mean, the people that came out of Longfellow, neighbors that live around the area, many of them have told us, you know, I've never been engaged to this level, but it's. I'm fed up with it. This is no longer an issue of left or right or, you know, where you stand on that line, but it's really about our humanity that is being questioned, our Constitution that is being questioned. And that's why people are willing to stand up for one another, because we're here, we see it. And I think that that gives us the courage to speak up.

[C]

You're the owner of Colonial Super Supermarket, right?

[B]

I'm the owner of Colonial Market and Restaurant, yes. My name is Daniel Hernandez.

[C]

You've been here how many years and how long have you owned Colonial?

[B]

Well, I've been in the States since I was 16. You know, right now I'm 41. So it's been 20, 25 plus years that I've been in Minnesota, and I have owned several business, you know, during the last 14 years, and colonial is one of them. I own Colonial since 2019.

[C]

Can you talk to the people who might not be familiar? I see Colonial, and it seems very familiar to me. It looks like one of those local Latino supermarkets for the Latino community. And, I mean, you're important in a community like this, right?

[B]

Yes. Colonial Market is at the traditional grocery market in United States. We have pinatas, we have Cecina, we have Doritos. We have different brands that people know and care from their countries. We export 90% of our groceries. So most of them come from anywhere, from Brazil all the way to Mexico.

[C]

So in November and December, but definitely in December, it picks up right before the holidays that agents come here. And what I found striking is, I mean, like, you could have the greatest heart in the world, and I think you do. But you're a businessman. You have to make money for your business, or else you're not going to be able to stay here forever. How has your sales gone down?

[B]

The sales began dropping at the beginning of 2025 when President Trump took office. My sales began dropping dramatically by month. You Know to until now what we are, we only sell around $170,000 per month, which is very, very dramatic change.

[C]

What were you doing before that?

[B]

We used to sell $1 million per month.

[C]

So you're trying to help the community. Your, your own business is being, is being hurt drastically. And you do now, now what are you doing for the community? You do free delivery of food?

[B]

Well, we do different things. We, we do do free deliveries, you know, which is free for them, but I have to pay them. We also do dopas. I gave daily, daily updates to the community. I am constantly in contact with the city of Minneapolis on which we have helped to get free tow, to get free out of the impound lot. Cars that have been the owner has been taken by ice. Why is it so important for me to do that is because a lot of the ones stay behind are moms who do not have the money. And now they can get that car, sell it and get some money for the family. So I've been working with the city of Minneapolis directly with Mayor Fry. I've been helping the community to be the middleman, let's call it like that, between the mpd, Minneapolis Police Department and the normal citizens, Latino citizens. So I've been doing that for two years already. I am working with the Minnesota National Guard to help Latinos to join the National Guard. So I have a lot of things in my plate.

[C]

How old are you?

[B]

41.

[C]

Even before ICE came to Minneapolis in this huge way towards the end of the year, you were doing work to help young people, to help kids, Right? People that are taking. Can you talk about and explain what DOPA is?

[B]

Yes. DOPA is basically a parental authority that you give the authorization for somebody else to take your kids and take care of your kid up to a year. We begin doing dopas at the beginning of 2025 and January 2024. Between January and December 2025, we did 2,757 dopas total. And you know, most of the kids that we did, most of them, I would say 90% of them were US citizens. What we're doing right now is I'm trying to raise up to a million dollars or more for the Latino community to get them food. But the way I want to do it is completely different than most other nonprofits. Most nonprofit what they do is they raise the money and then they buy their groceries and everything to give away from big companies. Walmart, Target, Sam's Club, Costco, etc. So what I have proposed is to raise the money, but the money to stay stay in the community. How it's gonna stay in the community is that money. I want to be distributed in all the grocery stores, Latino grocery stores, and they can put together a package where everything is the same. So I'm gonna put a package together where all the grocery store can have the same thing and be paid in full. So that way we can help other small groceries, Latino grocery.