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Tim Miller (0:00)
Hey, guys, Tim Miller from the Bulwark just saw this press conference from the Trump's Deputy Secretary of State, who was explaining the administration's decision to welcome as refugees a couple of dozen white Afrikaners from South Africa. And like, I mean, the racism dog whistle here is, I guess, not really a dog whistle. It is a bullhorn from one of the most condescending blowhards that I've ever had the displeasure of watching do a press conference. And so I felt like I was obligated to share the pain with you all. And I had to learn a little bit about this gentleman, our Deputy Secretary of State, who is, not surprisingly, a Nepo baby. Christopher Landau. Well, a Nepo grandpa, I guess, at this point. But let's go to the video to watch his explanation for why the administration is taking in Afrikaner refugees at the same time they are blocking people fleeing persecution from other countries such as Afghanistan, taking away the protected status from refugees fleeing persecution in places such as Afghanistan. And we'll take a look at his answer.
Christopher Landau (1:17)
There are many people who are. Who fit the criteria of seeking help who are fleeing persecution, Afghans, for example, meaning they live in a country run by the Taliban, but they're being denied refugee status. So I'm wondering, why is such an exception been made for the Afrikaans, especially when the South African government says they're not in danger?
Unknown (1:39)
I think you may recall that on the President's first day in office on January 20th of this year, he issued an executive order that paused US Refugee programs that had been going at record levels under the prior administration and had brought in people that we were not sure had been carefully vetted for national security issues and put a pause on the refugee admission program in general. That pause, of course, was subject from the very beginning to exceptions where it was determined that this would be in the interest of the United States. Some of the criteria are making sure that refugees did not pose any challenge to our national security and that they could be assimilated easily into our country.
Tim Miller (2:37)
Making sure they can be assimilated easily into the country. Let's see if we can figure that one out. Hmm. Why do you think the Afrikaners, you know, the South African Afrikaners, quite a few of those in the administration, Elon Musk, David Sacks. Why do we think the Afrikaners could be assimilated into our culture more easily than those fleeing persecution from other countries, say Afghanistan or Africa or Venezuela? Hmm. Can you guys put your finger on it? I'm trying to put my finger on it. What do you think it would be that would make the assimilation easier, do you think? Are white Afrikaners, like, are they more into hamburgers? Do you think that, are they more familiar with American style football down there? Do you think? Do you think it's that big Taylor Swift fans, Beyonce in South Africa, there was that great South Africa concert for Whitney Houston a few decades ago. But I think that would have been many of the black South Africans who were in attendance in that. I don't know. I'd have to go back and look at the video of the crowd. I'm not sure. But what could be the other cultural elements that he could be referencing? Hmm. Because I don't know. For example, I might look at Afghanistan and say, boy, what about the people that fought alongside us, the Afghan refugees, people fleeing Afghanistan, they were like, presented a real choice between going along with the Taliban, you know, or going along with some of the other Islamist groups in, in the country, or working with the US government, working with the US military that was trying to, you know, bring a democracy, however ham handedly to Afghanistan. And many of the refugees that came chose to work with us, to help us, to ally with us. So you'd think that they'd already like, put their money where their mouth was, you know, and they'd already like, they have skin in the game when it comes to being assimilated into America. And I don't know. We'll put the link in the show notes. Maybe some of you missed it. I did an interview with Will Selber, who's an Afghan veteran who's been advocating for Afghan refugees. And just listen to him tell the story. And it's just the depths of the relationships built between our soldiers and the Afghan volunteers and translators, it's just unbelievably moving. And many of them I've had the privilege of meeting a couple that have come through Will and you know, they're now raising families here, they're going to church here. And what the US is doing is taking away the protected status from those refugees. And which means that in many cases they're going to have to go back to Afghanistan. And there was just this horrific report today from Kristi Noem where she talked about the rationale for that was that the home country was no longer a danger. I don't have the exact quote in front of you. The home country is safer now than it was when we gave them protected status. Really? The Taliban controlled Afghanistan is safer now. And so we judge that the danger is greater facing the white South Africans that doesn't feel right. On the assimilation point, we've decided that the white South Africans assimilate to our country better than the Afghans who worked with us, who risked their lives to try to help us in a military operation there, have come to the country and brought their families and learned English. In many cases, they've been, you know, like I said, many of them were translators for us. So you have to know both languages. It's hard for me to think of any reason that the white South Africans would be easier to assimilate than the folks in Afghanistan who, like, have already demonstrated that they care about American values. Except, I don't know, maybe. What could it be? Maybe French fries. Do they eat French fries more in South Africa? Huh? Maybe it's just that they're white. It's just that they're white that they could be assimilated more. I don't know. But you contrast that the white South Africans and how easy it is to assimilate them, and this fucking blowhard, Christopher Landau, is having this press conference about how, oh, we're assimilating these people. And you know what really pisses you off? If you're not already pissed off enough about the racism, if you're not already pissed off enough about just, like, the fucking pompous, affected way in which this stuffed shirt made the case for the Afrikaners. Think about it in this context. He's saying that we have to take them because they have a real risk in their country, the Afrikaners, and we can assimilate them, but we can't take the Venezuelans fleeing communism, and not only can we not take the Venezuelans fleeing communism, but if they have the wrong tattoo, we're going to put them on a fucking plane to El Salvador, and they are going to have to rot in a hole with no access to lawyers. So maybe, maybe, just maybe, what Mr. Landau meant when he said that the Afrikaners could assimilate to our culture better is maybe the Afrikaners are going to be more okay with our fascism. Because it is absolutely appalling to argue that Neri, the guy with the autism awareness tattoo, who is working his ass off at a bakery in Texas and volunteering to help kids with autism on the side has not assimilated into this country and needs to be sent to a fucking concentration camp with no due process. But these Afrikaners, they're gonna assimilate just fine, roll out the red carpet, have a little press conference for them. As I mentioned, Christopher Landau is a Nepo child I checked him out. He was actually not born in America, born in Madrid. Wonder why he was able to assimilate so easily. His father was also a diplomat, so he comes from a line of diplomats. You can call what he does diplomacy. He was previously Trump's ambassador to Mexico. Had a little undiplomatic exchange on social media. While he was the ambassador, a student had sent a tweet criticizing his content. Landau replied this. Apologies if I'm not sufficiently sophisticated for you. With your degree in international relations, obviously your great education and knowledge of the world would allow you to do diplomatic work much better than the rudimentary communications of this white foreigner. He sure seems to have a chip on his shoulder about his skin color. Tweeting at some random college student in Mexico about how he should be received as a white foreigner in Mexico. I gotta tell you, this one is. This one sucks. This one sucks. And by the way, I guess I want to say one thing clearly at the end of this. I actually don't. I'm sure that at least some, maybe all of the 50 some odd white Afrikaners that we are welcoming into this country will enrich our society in some way. This is not about any of them individually. It is about the absolutely depraved treatment of Afghanistan refugees, of Venezuelan Asylees, of other refugees for all from all around the world, combined with this argument that we have we can only take these Afrikaners because of their assimilation abilities. That combination is un American, repulsive and, and really a stain on against with nothing to do with them, but. But the context in which they're coming into the country is a stain on the administration. And so, you know, it's a tough one, but there you go. Now you know him, now you get to meet him. Christopher Landau did a late night taping on this one for you because I had to get my blood pressure up before I went to bed. I'll be back tomorrow with the pod. We'll be talking about tariffs, talking about econ stuff, and we'll see you all then.
