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A
Hey everybody, Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with managing editor Sam Stein. Boy, we have had a day. I just want to be candid with you guys. At the start I've been in the content minds here, you know, doing a lot of interviews and Donald Trump gave a three hour and a three hour long televised cabinet meeting. It was longer, three hours, 10 minutes, something like that. So Sam was, Sam was dipping in and out. I have had our team here pull together some clips which I've watched. So I just, I want to be candid with everybody. I did not watch 210 minutes of Donald Trump's cabinet meeting today. I've had other things on my plate. I went to yoga. So anyway, we're going to react to the clips but before we do, I'm going to do something totally unexpected for the Borg page. Sam, is that okay?
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B
Okay, yeah, sure.
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A
I can't throw the guy a bone. I mean, where is his energy coming from? I just, I would love to do the dead, the Donald Trump's like on his, on his left legs, the hands coverage and the ankles. I love the Alex Jones Jones ankles coverage. They are like really big.
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C
His ankles look like they're about.
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D
15 inches around.
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A
And I think that we should be honest about kind of the evidence on both sides of the plate here. There are some physical ailments that are notable. But like when does this dude fucking sleep like he is? He does an hour of makeup a day at least, you know, to put the orange face on. He did three press conferences yesterday. By all accounts. He's on the phone a lot, people are calling him. Yeah, I mean he's not sleeping, he's bleeding like at late hours of the night. Yeah, it's, it is. No, I just got hand to the guy. Can't do you. I mean it's notable. I get tired. I'm just myself. If I have a long day, I do three content activations, I'm on Nicole, I do a podcast, I do a YouTube video with your dumb ass. I gotta read the news so I know what the takes are. You know, you gotta do bedtime with the kids but by the time 9:30 rolls around, sometimes I'm a little tuckered out. And Trump like, and then you add.
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B
To it, you add to it that his diet is atrocious.
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A
Right?
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B
Like he's, he's got like the world's worst diet. He's eating McDonald's and shit. Like he should be petering out. Yeah, sure, I'll hand it to the guy.
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A
Anyway, go ahead and Clip this. Bannon's war room. Go ahead. Go ahead and clip this now. We'll have it for posterity. You can have this, Greg Gutfeld. Okay. Anyway, that's going to be the last compliment, I think, because the three hours and ten minutes weren't exactly a sign of mental.
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B
Well, he's. Come to think of it, though, he's the President of the United States. Like shooting the. With the press. I'm grateful for it. Don't get me wrong. Great content. But I would imagine there are other more pressing matters on his plate.
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A
Well, sure. They're sure. I. Again, there. I have many critiques of Donald Trump. It's usual. It's what we do all day on this page. For the most part, his judgment is notable. Yes. Yeah. His prioritization. You know, what he cares about and doesn't, for sure. But, like, I mean, just blab in there for three hours. I don't know. I know I've got some less than 80 year olds in my life that start to kind of doze off a little bit by hour. By hour. Hour. You know, whatever. Three. Okay. All right, let's do a quick highlight reel. We're doing the Sports center style. We're going to go rapid fire. Section one. Here is the dictator soft launch, part two. Yesterday, me and JBL did a YouTube on how he's doing kind of this, you know, it's kind of dictator. Yeah, it's a float. It's a trial balloon. Let's. Let's play clip number one here.
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C
So the line is that I'm a dictator, but I stop crime. So a lot of people say, you know, if that's the case, I'd rather have a dictator, but I'm not a dictator. I just had to stop crime.
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A
I'd rather have a dictator. Sam.
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B
Yeah, he's been doing this one. You know, people. He just thinks people are yearning for a dictator and, you know, he doesn't want to be it. But if they ask, it's like Ron Burgundy, you know, whipping out the jazz flute from his pocket. Yeah. I couldn't possibly do this. Oh, here's the jazz flute. So I'm a little bit nervous about this one. It does seem like he's just priming the pump a little bit. The fact that it's like day two or three of this is adding to my anxieties.
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A
Yeah. Well, here's another thing you should add to your anxieties. Here's another club. He's talking about what their plans are for Chicago.
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C
I think crime will be the big subject of the midterms and will be the big subject of the next election. Think of it, they are. Instead of saying Trump's right about crime, it's really bad in Chicago. You have a guy in Illinois, the governor of Illinois saying that crime has been much better in Chicago recently. And Trump is a dictator. And, and most people say if you call him a dictator, if he stops crime, he can be, he could be whatever he wants. I'm not a dictator, by the way, but he can be whatever he wants.
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A
So, yeah, there it is again. People are saying if he stops the crime in Chicago, he can be whatever he wants.
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B
Sure.
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A
He does. The. I'm not a dictator, by the way. No, no. But I don't.
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B
Just to be clear, just to be clear, I'm not addicted.
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A
Yeah. I find there's, there's a serious, I mean, there are a lot of serious reasons to find this alarming. But just like a couple of the specific things I've noticed as a follower of this out, and I'm curious, and I brought this up to JVI yesterday, I'm curious. Your take is that like several times there have been things that he was floated, really extreme things that then came to fruition. Like the other things have other side of this. Like all kinds of show. Like the Muslim ban at first was kind of, was kind of a lark, like a rally thing, you know, and then we ended up banning Muslims for the country for a little while. So.
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B
But then there's some stuff he does that he doesn't do. Like, we haven't conquered Greenland.
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A
We haven't conquered. Right, right. But interesting. There's enough of a track record of him being like, well, you know, we might have to do this where then it becomes reality that that's alarming. And the other thing I find alarming is there's just this asymmetry in the dialogue on the maga. Right World. This is something that won't be clipped over there, which is like there's a handful of people who are like, yeah, I think we need a dictator. Tucker recently. Then there's a category of people who like, like the troll. They're like, oh, yeah, Trump doing that dictator troll. The libs are mad. Let me show you a clip of Sam Stein on Morning Joe crying, you know what? So they like, they said that's positive. And then you've got Trump saying it. And then on the anti dictator side, the only thing you hear from people is like, well, those lefties are a little bit alarmist. All right. Like that's not. He's just joking. He's obviously joking. So there's no one in the whole ecosystem that's like, you know what? Actually this is bad. We shouldn't have a dictator. We shouldn't joke about it. And I think that eventually that, like, creates an environment where people start to acculturize themselves to it. Is that too tds no, no, I.
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B
I agree with that. And I think he knows that, like, he. I think this just touching the stove type stuff, like, seeing what, what kind of reaction he will engender from this. But like, you know, we. It's the same thing with, like, you know, of course he won't with the Federal Reserve. Right? He's never gonna. With the Federal Reserve. Like, no one would do that. And then he's like, actually, I'm gonna fire Lisa Cook. And it was like, that's never gonna happen. Then he fires her. And then you're like, well, you know, do I care enough? Do I need to, like, get mad enough about this stuff? And I think you properly diagnose the three types of reactions that this usually engenders on the Right. And it's sad that there aren't enough people out there who are like, actually, this is not good. I mean, there are a few people here and there, but I think people are just kind of, I don't know, beaten down by it all, and they don't. They just can't get. They can't stomach the. The outrage and they don't want to have to deal with it.
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A
Well, we've got one more clip from the dictator section. This one is interesting because he doesn't actually use the word dictator. And I think. I think this clip is almost more telling. So let's watch that clip. 4.
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C
Not that I don't have the right to do anything I want to do. I'm the President of the United States. If I think our country is in danger, and it is in danger in these cities, I can do it. No problem going in and solving, you know, his difficulties. But it would be nice if they'd call and they say, would you do it?
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A
So I want to just read you the quote there. I know you started, but just like I have the right to do anything I want to do. I'm the President of the United States.
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B
It's very Nixonian. A post Watergate with Frost Nixon interview, you know, of course. And yeah, it's it. That one actually struck me as the most alarming of the. Of the bunch because it wasn't him, you know, trying to Provoke, if that's what you think he's trying to do.
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A
Wasn't a tongue in cheek. He doesn't do the thing like, maybe I'm addicted or maybe I'm not.
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B
He's like, he's like, if I, if I have a rationalization for doing it, I can do it. And that's clearly how he views his entire second term presidency. He's talking about like, you know, we're going to give the death penalty to people who can murder in Washington D.C.
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C
Capital punishment, capital capital punishment. If somebody kills somebody in the capital, Washington D.C. we're going to be seeking.
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B
The death penalty also in this three and a half hour extravaganza. And like, no, you can't just make up your capital punishment law in Washington's, you know, criminal code. Like, that's not how it works. But I think he thinks that's how it works and that's why that quote stood out to me. It's just like that was the most revealing of his mindset about how he doesn't think there actually are or should be checks on his power.
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A
Yeah, that's, I think that's the key point. Like that is his mindset, right? So he might not, you know, like in their, in a head like a dictator is something different. Like that's something from another country, right? That's Gaddafi. Like that there's a costume and you kill your foes and stuff, right? And so like I'm not just hang.
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B
Them by the nipples.
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A
Yeah, I'm just joking about that. But when it comes to what I want here, I am a president who can do whatever I want, right? And so like that is not really a meaningful distinction from dictator.
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B
It's not a meaningful distinction, but in his head it is, right? He's like, I can be a president who gets dictatorial powers, but I'm still president versus I am a dictator, which everyone knows you don't really want.
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A
You would think a couple small government conservatives might think something about that. People who care about federalism. No federalism. Remember we're a republic. Remember we're a republic, not a democracy. All right, well, this is not the dictator section. This is the licking trump balls section.
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B
But that's kind of related to the dictator section. I love this. I love this. And this is why I watch the cabinet meetings. It's for this part because it's the best.
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A
The team pulled together a clip reel of all this that was just too long for me to bear. I just want to be like my vicarious embarrassment for all these People was so acute, I started sweating, my hands started sweating. And I'm like, we can't make the people watch four minutes of this. So we both picked our favorites, which I think is more. It was a more fair thing to do to you guys, and we'll watch. You have to remember that every member of the Cabinet did a version of this.
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B
So it takes a while before we get into this. I think I've asked this before, but do you think they rehearse this shit in the mirror before the Cabinet meeting, or do they write it down to be like, I know I have to do the praise section. Like, here's what I'm going to say. And like, they.
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A
I have an answer to that question. And we. So we go to my person first. Here's Treasury Secretary Scott Besant.
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E
As we've said very often, economic security is national security, and our country has never been so secure, thanks to you. You have brought us back from the edge. You have the overwhelming mandate from the American people. You're restoring confidence in government, a topic that is on the front of everyone's mind. The Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve's independence comes from a political arrangement between itself and the American public. Having the public's trust is the only thing that gives credibility. And you, sir, are restoring trust to government. Mr. President, your return to the White House marked the return of the American worker. Thank you for reclaiming Labor Day for the American people. You're growing the economy for everyone, especially the middle and lower income households who suffered disproportionately under the last administration. And it's an honor to do this under your leadership.
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A
That's like the longest 40 seconds of my life. It's like, it's like I, I just. He's like, he's praising a special needs child and, like, telling them how good they're doing. Like a child that's, like, done a very fort. Or like, maybe not special needs. Maybe a child who's like, done, like, very bad at soccer. You know, get the soccer team and you let the worst kid on the team score a goal at the very end. And you're like, yeah, look at you, Freddie. And it's nice. It's nice in that moment because the kid needs that. But this guy's the president, United States. But you notice there, Besson's got notes. Like he is. He. He has prepared this. Yeah. Like he is. He's looking down, he's made some notes. The, the tone of it is like, oh, the economic strength is a Kearney strength. And so he's planned the language. It's not off the cuff and I don't know. It's humiliating. Like, it's humiliating.
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B
It might be a B, but it's also, I mean, he doesn't give a shit, but it's humiliating. For Trump, it's so humiliating. I mean like, if you had a set of like a shred of dignity to like the sort of like to demand that your, your cabinet go through this entire process. It's just, it shows how like, I.
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A
Don'T know, I'm not built. Yeah, you're right. I don't. Again, Donald Trump is very different than me.
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B
I'd be hum. I'd be embarrassed.
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A
Yeah, I would be embarrassed. And this is not, this is going to seem like a humblebag. It's not. It is not. It's like a weakness because it's actually a good thing to be able to take genuine praise well. And I like really don't like it. It like makes me very uncomfortable when people are complimenting me and so I'm like, please stop.
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B
Well, I'm not used to being complimented, especially by you. So I wouldn't know.
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A
Well, this way we get along. I show love through shit talk, you know what I mean? Like a little, A little negging, you know, it's like, I wouldn't neg you if I would. Anyway. This, I just feel like that's a normal, more normal way for bros to deal with bros. Okay. And the Scott Besant Trump relationship is a little ick for me. All right, you pick yours. Who, who is your.
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B
So I, I thought Woff really hammered it home. Because Woff, he asked.
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F
Your team is nothing short of incredible. And there's only one thing I wish for that that Noble Committee finally gets its act together and realizes that you are the single finest candidate since the noble piece this noble award was ever talked about. To receive that reward beyond your success is game changing out in the world today. And I hope everybody one day wakes up and realizes that.
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B
Okay, so like, it's just this whole Nobel Peace Prize thing. I can't take it. I cannot take it anymore. Part of me wants to just call up the Norwegians who handle this thing and be like, just do it. Just do it so we can just end this shit. Like there's five of you. You know he wants it. Maybe we can extract something in exchange for giving it to him. You have some leverage here. Just give the man what he wants so he can move on from this. I just can't deal with it anymore.
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A
I don't want to give it to him. I don't know what's old. I like that. I thought you're gonna call out the Norwegians and let them know and have them send him a letter and say, because of this, these, these reasons from your actions in the past, you will never receive this award. You're disqualified from the award. And so stop asking about it. Stop calling.
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B
I don't know.
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A
Norwegians, if you're listening, consider one option.
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B
It's so, it's so obvious. Like, every world leader that now meets with this guy's like, you know what? You probably. You probably should get that Nobel.
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A
All right, we're gonna move on to the Ukraine clips and Russia clips. Really? I thought that there was some stuff here that was.
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B
This is like actual news again here. But, yeah, go ahead.
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A
I don't know if this first one's news, but we'll look at it. Here is Donald Trump complimenting himself about Operation Warp Speed and relaying an endorsement he received about Operation Warp Speed from a very important individual to him.
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C
We did a great job with it. Never got the credit for the job we did. Operation Warp Speed, people say, is one of the greatest achievements ever in politics or in the military, because it was almost a military procedure. But everybody, including Putin, said that Operation Warp Speed, what you did with that, nobody can believe it. And we did a great job. But it was still. It was a horrible, horrible poll over our country. We had a very dark cloud over the world. That was a very, very bad thing. That came out of Wuhan, which I said it came out of Wuhan. That's where it came from. And China suffered greatly. But everybody did. But we, we did a good job with that. As good as you can possibly do. And we came back, and now we're stronger than ever before.
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A
All right. Everybody, comma, including Putin, including Vlad, said that it was great. Well, not your base, actually, but Vlad Putin thought it was great.
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B
Yeah. Do you think Putin brought it up in Anchorage? Is that what happened? I don't. Why does this. Why did he mention that? It's so random.
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A
I mean, they talked for a while. Like, did they talk about Operation Warp Speed? Think about all the random.
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B
Hey, remember Covid?
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A
Vladimir told him that he shouldn't do mail in balloting anymore.
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B
They did talk about it.
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A
He complimented Operation Warp Speed, Vladimir sending the picture. Have you seen the video at the picture?
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C
I thought you'd all like to see it. That's a man named Vladimir Putin, who I believe will be coming. Depending on what happens, he may be coming and he may not, depending on what happens. We have a lot of things happening over the next couple of weeks, but I thought it was a nice picture.
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B
Yeah, I saw that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It'd be funny if they just spent a lot of time reliving, like, 2020. Remember those days, Covid? Mail and balloting. That was a weird campaign.
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A
It's interesting. It comes to his head. It is. You notice this.
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B
Well, when you're talking for three and a half hours.
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D
Yeah. Right.
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A
And my friends notice this on the pod. They're like, okay. If I keep mentioning somebody, it's usually a sign of care, you know, that I'm like, I have somebody on my mind. Like, I'll just blurt them out. You know, sometimes I'll get a complaint from someone who's like, did you have to tell that story on the pod? I'm like, it's a nice thing. It means I was thinking about you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Anyway, Trump's been thinking about Putin quite a lot.
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B
A lot, a lot.
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A
All right, couple other clips. Why don't we just put these together here? Because they both cover Trump's reiterating his warped view of, like, the nature of the conflict here. Let's watch.
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C
With war, you never know, right? War is very tricky, very horrible. But with war, you never know. Things change. People go into war, think they're going to win the war, and then they get their asses kicked and they lose their country, they lose millions of lives. Nobody goes into a war thinking they're going to lose. They go in. I'm sure that Ukraine thought they were going to win as going to be, you know, we're going to win. You're going to beat somebody that's 15 times your size. Biden shouldn't have let that happen. Biden shouldn't have. I mean, the man was grossly incompetent. He should have never been there. That would have never happened. But you don't go into a war that's 15 times your size. Now, I have to also see, because not everybody, you know, Zelensky is not exactly innocent either.
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A
Okay.
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C
You know, it takes two people to tango. And I say it all the time. You got to get them together. I get along with Zelensky now, but we have a much different relationship because now we're not paying any money to Ukraine. You know, stop that. We're paying money to ourselves. What's happening is NATO is buying all of the equipment and paying in full.
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B
But he just can't get over the fact that he just doesn't like Zelensky. I don't, I don't understand it. Why does he think he started the war? Jew.
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A
Short?
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B
Short, more likely, yeah. I don't know.
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A
Taking his money, doesn't want someone.
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B
But he sees, he said in the air, he's like, we're not sending him a single cent anymore. So, I mean, he doesn't think that, but yeah, he, he, like, he has it in his head that Zielinski started this.
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A
He's not exactly innocent either. Yeah, it takes two to tango. What did he do? They did nothing. The thing that is the most comparable to is his view of Me too allegations. Honestly, this is comparable to that. Trump always sides with the predator. Trump always sides with the predator in Me too allegations. And you could imagine him saying this.
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B
Oh, so Zelensky falsely accused Putin.
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A
Yeah, you can imagine Zelensky being a woman who's like, oh. Trump's like, oh, but I mean, she kind of wanted it.
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B
In this case, though, we all saw the aggression. It wasn't a he said, she said it was to. We saw it.
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A
You know, I'm just telling you how he sees the world. Then there's the part of it where he talks about again, he seems to be confused about how Ukraine got into the war. He keeps talking about how Ukraine thought they were going to win and how they got into the war with someone 15 times their size. They didn't get into a war. Zelensky didn't bomb Moscow thinking that he was going to take him down. He was invading, he defended himself.
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B
What this is, this is not like one of those Trump isms where it's like, well, you know, maybe he's just like kind of confused about the math. Like how he's been like talking about, I'm going to reduce drug prices by, you know, 1400%, which doesn't make sense.
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C
Where I'm going to be reducing drug prices by 14, 1500 percent.
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B
Like, this is just like, it's out there. It's plain, clear as day what happened. And he just can't. Either he deliberately is not getting it right or he's just an idiot about the origins of the war. I don't get it.
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A
Well, for to do a cabinet meeting rundown, we do have to have a nut lick clip of the day. Yes, we'll do this one. Let's watch.
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G
The Biden administration had given $11 billion to intel, given it to them, done corporate, just gift. And you turn that into really, you know, it was like less than five minutes of conversation and intel agreed to give us 10% of their company, which of course was worth $11 billion. So it's not socialism. This is capitalism. If you give someone $11 billion who's just building in America, they're not doing something special, they're building in America. And their CEO told the President he didn't need the grant. And you said, well, then why don't we get something for, for it?
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A
It's not socialism. This is capitalism.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
How do you figure?
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B
I don't, I don't follow the logic on this one, to be honest with you. I don't know if he, if he thought this one through. We took over a stake of a company.
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A
Of capitalism.
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B
Yeah, I, I don't know. This whole intel thing's hilarious to me. You, you have to explain the Republican mindset to me on this one because this seems like so obvious. There was never a universe I existed in where Republicans would be cool with this. And yet here we are.
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A
I think that the answer is Donald Trump did it. So it's cool. The most substantive defense I've seen of this from the right.
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B
Yeah.
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A
From like a couple of serious people on the right. Serious is they, they, they do this thing, it's like this, this little three card Monty where it's like, well, if you gave me two options and one option was the Biden option, which is you give a loan to intel for 700 billion or whatever it is.
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B
Right.
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A
And then the other option is that I get the government takes 9 billion, you know, gives them the money, but takes the stake back. I guess I would take the Trump plan over the Biden plan. Like that's like the logic that.
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B
Then you're not a conservative.
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A
Right.
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B
Well, that's fine. You're a Bernie Sanders type, you know, government, cool liberal.
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A
You want a government run economy.
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B
Yeah. You know that. Cool.
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A
This is capitalism, says Nutrich. All right, one more. Well, it's a double. Do we need. I don't. People have seen enough of Trump. We had a double clip on the windmills. Windmills came up multiple times.
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B
Let's do Bobby.
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A
Yeah. So Trump mentions. I always just say Trump says windmills. Were not going to allow them.
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C
We don't allow windmills. We're not allowing any windmills to go up.
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B
They're ruining the Trump fucking hates windmills.
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A
A dictator, a fiat rule that there'll be no more windmills. We'll see how that gets enforced. Bobby Kennedy, though, also, who is, what's his job again?
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B
HHS secretary.
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A
Secretary of Health and Human Services. So I received this text when I was not Watching the press conference, I knew it was a good one. When I got this text, it was, why the fuck is the secretary of HHS talking about how many whales have allegedly been killed by windmills? And I was like, I'm not watching, bro. I don't know what you're talking about. Let's watch together.
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D
I wanted to talk because you mentioned the wind farms. We now have an inter departmental coalition team, which is Doug Burgum and Howard Ludnick and Chris Wright and Pete Hegseth. We're all working on this issue.
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A
And Lee.
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C
And Lee.
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D
Sorry, Lee. We're all working together on this issue. We're meeting together. There are right now 11 wind farms planned that were launched during the Biden administration between Maine and Virginia. It's 1130 towers. These towers are twice the size of the Washington Monument. The blades on them are massive.
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C
It's so crazy.
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D
The blades are 350ft long. One blade. One of these blades blew up on Nantucket last summer. And water is filled with shards of glass, of sharp glass. So it's dangerous to swim and to close the beaches and. But they have identified themselves as the local communities. Can't sue them. None of these projects are bonded. If you build an oil derrick in the Gulf, you got to put a bond down.
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B
This one confused me a little bit, but then I did a little bit of Googling because I thought I was like Kennedy. That doesn't make sense. Like, he was an environmentalist in his past life. Like, surely this, this is a contradiction of a past position he took where, you know, because you, you would think environmentalists actually want to harness wind power. But no, he's always been pretty anti windmill. And I think it has to do, of course, with his times out in Nantucket because he mentioned Nantucket in this. And I, I think the windmills out there have like, hurt the marine population. Marine life population in Wales. And so he's like super against it. He also had a big riff about radioactive shrimp during this press conference. So, you know, he's, he's, he's drifting a little bit out of his lane here. But, you know, that's.
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A
Didn't Bobby decapitate a whale?
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B
Yes, I think so. He's had a, he's had a, an odd relationship with animals.
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A
Let's Google this here. Live RFK Decapitated. Didn't we do a video on this? It's hard to remember everything. The bear video was great.
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D
At the end of the dinner, it went late and I realized I couldn't go home. I had to go to the airport. And the bear was in my car, and I didn't want to leave the bear in the car.
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A
See. Federal agency closes investigation into RFK over dead whale carcass. So, yeah, there was an investigation against him about his treatment of a whale carcass.
- [27:30]
B
Yeah. There's some weird allegations.
- [27:32]
A
Beheaded a whale, apparently. Allegedly. Allegedly. An alleged whale beheading in 1994. So, I don't know. I mean, I guess in his past maybe has been such a strong advocate for the whales. I don't. It's strange.
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B
I continue to insist that he is unique among the cabinet officials.
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A
This is about. Here's what this is. This is rich guy shit.
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B
Yeah.
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A
This is. Bobby is in Nantucket. He thinks the windmills are an eyesore. Trump has his golf courses like Turnberry. There are windmills. They think they're an eyesore. Kilnsburg. This is what this is. This is not, like, forgotten man. Man of the people. I want coal back. Like, this is just simply.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I. When I. When I'm at my resort and golf club, I do not want to have to look at the windmills.
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B
Yeah. And he was. And Bobby was talking about, like, these big, you know, blades that have to go up there and they could fall off and to kill whales. And it's just like. Is that I. This can't be your lane. Like, this just cannot be your lane. Focus on. Actually don't focus on vaccines, please. Maybe it should be your lane.
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A
Yeah. Because that's nothing. We should have had that couple. We could get in post. We had one more.
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B
The autism one.
- [28:46]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this was in his lane, which is a little bit more fucked up. So we'll close with this one. Let's. Let's go ahead and watch it.
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C
Autism. If I could just. I don't want to go too long because we have a lot of people, but the autism is such a tremendous horror show what's happening in our country. There's something wrong when you see the kind of numbers that you have today versus 20 years ago. And those numbers. What are those numbers?
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A
Yeah.
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B
This is not good.
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A
Not Trump. Seems like Trump in the past. I was saying this during the campaign. I don't think you realize this. Trump has been kind of an autism conspiracy vaccine curious for a while. Like. Yeah. You know, in his random, like, word salad over the years, like, this has been something he's mentioned a couple of times. It's not been like, his main thing, like terrorists or whatever, but he's been. He's been autism vaccine curious for a while. And, and he, and so I think it's pretty alarming there in that room that it's, they're like next month RFK is gonna have some kind of announcement on this. This has obviously been his hobby horse for a long time. That was pretty ominous.
- [29:49]
B
I'm sure it's going to be, you know, dutifully researched and thorough.
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A
Right.
- [29:53]
B
Like, this guy has had a decade long charade against vaccines causing autism. So he's going to come up with the research to prove it in four months. Despite, you know, years and years of scientific research disproving it. Trump's totally bought in. Like, totally bought in. And it's, it's pretty profoundly scary to think about what's going to happen in September when they make this recommendation. Already they're making major changes or previewing major changes. Cone Jonathan Cohen's got a newsletter that looks at how they're going to potentially scrap liability shields from manufacturers of vaccines which could, you know, really have profound effects. So we're in, we're in a bad spot here. I know a lot of damage has been done in eight months by Kennedy. It has nothing to do with windmills, but it's going to get worse. It's going to get worse. And boy, like, I shudder to think about what's going to happen with the anti vax movement.
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A
On that note, subscribe to the feed.
- [30:50]
B
Exciting stuff.
- [30:51]
A
Stein. He's the managing editor. I'm Tim Miller. This is, you know, tell your friends about this. Like, you know, this is, this is just exactly what they want to do. We'll be seeing you all here soon. Bye.