Tim (1:50)

It's.

Sam Stein (1:50)

It's filled with anger, insults, and conspiracists. And that brings us to this episode, because late afternoon yesterday, a series of tweets. What was it, 13? Or was it 11? Will?

Will (2:05)

13.

Sam Stein (2:06)

All right, so, yeah, yesterday, FBI director's girlfriend Alexis Wilkins decided to just go on a Twitter rampage in which she threw a bunch of accusations against prominent conservative figures that they may be foreign ops. Before we get into the heart of it, I just want to step back and sort of emphasize how fucking bizarre this is that the FBI director's girlfriend is doing this. You don't normally do this and will touched upon it in his newsletter, but if there were issues with foreign operations and foreign influences of some of the biggest conservative voices like Candace Owens, Michael Flynn, and Tucker Carlson, there is someone who could look into this, and that would be the FBI Director.

Tim (2:46)

Yeah. The 13 tweet thread about how she is not a Mosaic honeypot is raising a lot of questions answered by the 13 tweet, Fred, which was retweeted by

Will (2:58)

members of the Netanyahu family. So there you go. So.

Sam Stein (3:05)

Well, okay, let's back up a little bit, because I don't know if everyone's going to know who Alexis Wilkins is. Why don't you start there? Sure.

Will (3:10)

So Alexis Wilkins is the country music singer who is dating Cash Patel. They. Cash is. Yes. Well, he's called her a sensation. You know, she is, I would say, significantly younger than him. The problematic age gap, perhaps. She's also.

Tim (3:27)

People find her a lot of problems. Just fine.

Will (3:30)

Age gap's fine.

Tim (3:31)

Just. All right, let's.

Sam Stein (3:33)

The problem is the physical. The physical beauty gap is the problem. Right.

Tim (3:37)

Beauty gap is significant to most.

Will (3:40)

She's hotter than Cash, I think it's fair to say. And so, you know, they say power, but, you know, so. So when Cash first started saying that Epstein killed himself and all this, people started accusing her of being a Mossad honeypot. Now, she's not Israeli, she's not Jewish. She's worked with some Jewish people in conservative media, but that is sort of the. The evidence. And now she's sued multiple conservative media figures for saying she works for the Mossad. And that kind of brings us up to this current moment.

Sam Stein (4:12)

So what is this current moment?

Will (4:13)

So she comes out with this week, a thread where basically she fed all of these tweets, calling her a Mossad age and other kind of like generally divisive tweets from Tucker Carlson, from Candace Owens. She fed those into, I would say, ChatGPT or Claude. And then it kind of spits out this thing, and she. It's sort of one of these. Wow, that's a great insight, Alexis. You know, you made a really good point there. And then she. So she posts that and says, you know, I've analyzed this, and I have found that all of these people are part of a foreign influence operation.

Tim (4:46)

Yeah. I just want to just pick one of the tweets, for example. And Sam, thank you so much for starting with this, because I do just want to Send an apologies to the people that went to the Tim livestream on Tuesday night because on that live stream I promised a dial a monologue about Alexis Wilkins at the end of the show. I had a couple glasses of wine during the stream. It was very long and I forgot about the promise that I made. And there was definitely some feedback about people who are waiting anxiously for my takes on this. So just thank you for bringing it up and my apologies for making people wait 48 hours. I always want to do a little bit of a dramatic reading from the thread, if you don't mind.

Sam Stein (5:20)

Yeah, go for it.

Tim (5:21)

Chapter 14 out of 13 May 202410 days before the Butler assassination attempt, Ivan Rakelin, former Green Beret, former Defense Intelligence Agency board member of Michael Flynn's nonprofit America Future, posed directly to elon Musk and J.D. vance. General Flynn would make Trump assassination proof. 166 retweets, 14 tightly clustered time windows amplified within one second that what like what is happening? The threat is ostensibly about how people there's foreign influence into the effort by some conservative media members to smear her as a Mossad agent and a honey pot. And like, she goes on this deep into these deep rabbit holes that like raise many more questions than they answer. It's like, what is the connection with between Ivan Rakeland's tweet about the Trump assassination to her? Is she suggesting that there was an inside job related to the Trump assassination? If so, what is her boyfriend doing? Why is she tweeting about this? Should not her boyfriend be looking into Ivan Raiklin and General Flynn? I don't know. It seems like yes.

Will (6:45)

Well, it's pretty remarkable that she took maybe 100 tweets and fed them into an AI and sort of got to the bottom of this foreign influence op. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that previously we needed like a special counsel investigation to prove. Now Alexis was able to do it. I mean, she's pulling in. Candace Tucker, you mentioned Ivan Raiklin. You know, it's basically anyone who's like kind of one of these insurgent right wing, quasi anti Trump figures. Does she say what country it is? No, but you know, she, she feels really confident that she's proved something here.

Tim (7:16)

I'd like to move us ahead to a later chapter. Chapter four, nine out of 13, because you mentioned Will, that she put some data into. Into. I would, I would say Grok, you

Sam Stein (7:26)

keep suggesting chapter four is eight out of 13. Chapter four is eight out of 13.

Tim (7:30)

Yeah, it's a two part it's a two parter.

Sam Stein (7:32)

Okay. Sorry.

Tim (7:33)

Thank you. Thank you. Well, it begins the first part of chapter four. Section. Chapter four, Section one reviews Joe Kent's resignation and how he suspiciously was invited to a gala for Catholics for Catholics following his resignation. Catholics for Catholics is under suspicion as part of the foreign influence op. But then she goes on to lay out where all this data is coming from. And she writes this. The data across all six chapters. 3,166,207 retweet engagements, 80% amplification rate. Abnormal volumes of accounts documented across multiple chapters spanning 22 months. The same accounts that were active before Butler in 2024 are active again as Joe Kent is fired in 2026. This is not a series of separate events. It is a single persistent infrastructure activated at each fracture point.

Sam Stein (8:24)

Yeah.

Tim (8:24)

What?

Sam Stein (8:24)

I think she's onto something. So when Will. When you initially were sent in this article and I was looking at it, I don't know why I did this because now that I'm reading about it, I was totally wrong. But I took out the line that you said this was fed through a chat GPT. This is the most chat GPT text word I've ever read in my life. There is not an original edit at all here. Even the presentation is completely chatgpt. And I'm. And I'm sort of curious, do you think she put any effort into this or just decided to feed it and then post it and then secondarily. And I'll start with you, Tim, on this one. How do you think the conversation went down between her and Cash before she posted this? Do you think she actually alerted to him, say, hey honey, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna throw out some tweets on the thread tonight.

Tim (9:10)

Great question, Sam. I just want to re. Reemphasize. This was Grok, you know. Okay, this is. We're at the lowest bottom basement. We're at the bottom basement here of the various AI options. I know that you guys are high class AI users. She's on Grok. Okay, I. Did she show it to Cash? I don't. I guess I imagine that the relationship between Alexis and Cash is kind of similar to the relationship between J.D. vance and Donald Trump? I don't think Cash is saying no to Alexis very much. So did she alert him to the fact that she was firing off a totally insane 13 point thread about a foreign influence operation that ties her Mossad honey pot, Mossad honeypot allegation to Trump's assassination plot to the joint firing I don't believe so. I, I, I, I assume not. I assume she probably was like, hey, honey, I've did some, I did a little bit of research on the trolls looking into us and I'm gonna post about that. He was like, great, babes, great. Okay, let me know when you need to have the plane come pick you up. I think that's probably how's this going on? It got posted and cash is like, what? And she's like, honey, I've got a team there. I know there aren't that many agents left at the FBI because I've fired any, all the good ones, but like there, here that could have looked at this, I think.

Sam Stein (10:34)

Yeah. Or edited it.

Tim (10:36)

This is unintelligible.

Will (10:37)

It's been embraced by the people who are opposed to people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens who are acting like this is just this, you know, huge, you know, she's really gotten to the bottom of it. You know, on the other hand, you know, it is kind of crazy that she went ahead and accused, you know, some of the biggest right wing media figures of being foreign. Foreign agents, as we talked about, presumably without clearing it with cash or also this is the same week the Trump administration just settled with Michael Flynn for like $1.5 million. Now she's also accusing him of being a foreign agent. I mean, should we be paying, you know, someone, the FBI girl director's girlfriend thinks is, is a spy, perhaps, you know, maybe not.

Tim (11:19)

Can I say no? I would say I'm a hard no. Regardless of whether. Well, we do know that Michael Flynn was a foreign agent for the government of Turkey already. Okay.

Sam Stein (11:28)

Yes.

Tim (11:29)

So she is now suggesting that he was also part of another foreign influence campaign, which I think is reasonable. The things that she put forth, that's not, that's not a big jump for me. But no, I do not believe. You said the Trump administration settled. I guess the Trump administration settled. Did, but we did. I mean, the American people settled. You everyone listening to this taxes contributed to the payoff that we sent to Donald Trump's first national security adviser because of this imaginary accusation that he was targeted falsely by the government, even though he was absolutely colluding with the Russians and on the take for. From a foreign country while he's National Security advisor. Now, I know you look at this now in 2026 and you think, is it that big of a deal that the National Security Advisor is on the take from a foreign country, since most inside players in this administration are on the take from foreign governments and making money from Inside info based on gambling, you wouldn't think so, but back in the early days of 2017 when we were all young and didn't have any grays, that was kind of a big deal to be on the take from a foreign country while you're a national security advisor.

Sam Stein (12:36)

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Tim (14:29)

If everyone's an op, then nobody's an op. That's something to consider. Will.

Will (14:33)

Yeah, no, no, I, I think that's true. I mean I. And you know, to the point, to the point that, that you Made earlier. Sam. I mean, it is. I would love to see Alexis just cut her off from any AI. Give her 30 minutes to explain, like what she means here. And, you know, I don't think she could do it.

Sam Stein (14:52)

I would love it. You can. Come on, the trio, Alexis. All right, let's move on because the next one is Candace Owens.

Tim (14:58)

Before we go to Candace, can I just, can I just get a quick count? Sam, you follow the news a little closer than I do. So far, has Cash successfully indicted anyone that is involved in the op against his wife or the op against Trump or part of the 2020 election fraud scandal, the biggest scandal in history? Has he.

Sam Stein (15:18)

No.

Tim (15:18)

He found a criminal yet?

Sam Stein (15:20)

No. And why? And, and, and clearly that's starting to bother people, right? Because they want to know why he's sitting on his hands. He gets a lot of. That's what was. People were mad about Dan Bongino. For the last time we did a video where. What were they saying? Don't be afraid of Satan, Dan. It's like they're all getting in Dan Bongino's face for not doing this. So obviously there's a lot of anger over the lack of action there. All right, Candace, she perplexes me every single day. But this one is kind of interesting because she's now going after Nick Shirley, who, if people forget Nick, has had moments of infamy and fame. He's, you know, gone after corruption in Minnesota, seems to have tried to do the same in California. Doesn't seem to care all that much about corruption in any red state, but is now this anti fraud warrior on the right. And then suddenly I wake up today or I come into the office and people are mad because Candace is going after him. And I don't get it, Will, what is going on?

Will (16:16)

Yeah, so there's an important context to get into here. So basically, Candace's feud with Nick Shirley started on Monday or Tuesday where basically she's trying to prove that Andrew Colvett, Charlie Kirk's right hand man, that he could not have been on this particular plane on the day of the assassination. She's obsessed with planes, right? Egyptian planes, whatever. So she's trying to prove that he pre recorded an interview with Nick Shirley to kind of get his whereabouts and

Tim (16:42)

to find myself on top of Brazil's largest favela in a destroyed house interviewing gang members of one of the largest gangs in Brazil.

Nick Shirley (16:50)

Okay, I'm just gonna say I don't believe that at all. I'm sorry, I just, I, I just. It's so stupid. I'm not even gonna tell you why I don't believe. It's like. It's like, if you don't know that that's stupid that he infiltrated the gang in 48 hours. Like, it's just. That's so dumb. I'm so tired of dumb. That's not how that works, okay? You don't just go up to gangs on the street as a nice looking white boy with a camera and say, hey, I just wanted to sort of like see what you're doing here, what's going on. Okay, that's just. Stop. That's stupid. Of course that's dumb. I'm sorry, Nick, I know you're young. I hope you know whoever is your contact that has you infiltrating antifa and infiltrating El Salvador at the age of 23 years old. It just feels like Sean Penn Young to me.

Will (17:29)

But to prove this was fake, she has to prove that Nick Shirley is also an intelligence operative. So she goes back through the Nick Shirley archives and she says, well, how could this guy go to this Brazilian favela? Because Nick Shirley, he goes to some favela and he's like, in just 48 hours, I like, got in tight with the gang and he shows himself like dapping up these gang members. Now what I think was going on, Nick probably went and paid some fixer who said, all right, I'll get a guy in a mask who's going to tell you how cool it is to be in a gang. But basically she's arguing, this guy has to be in the CIA. There's no other way he could do this. And so that's why, you know, you

Tim (18:07)

can't trust him as the only person on the trio who's been to a Brazilian flavella. I'm not going to give you any details on why I did that, but, you know, I had fun in my youth. I can weigh in and say that it's a little easier than you think to get into the Flavella. I don't know any Portuguese, but I was. I don't think it's a ton of evidence that I'm a CIA plot. I don't have any pictures to prove it, but you'll have to take my word. I'm gonna say this about. About this feud. So I was interviewing pumps from I've had it podcast I hip news on yesterday's podcast. And we. And they have a segment called Hit it or had it. And at the end of the segment, I was doing that with her, with various figures. And I brought up Candace and you could tell she was about to say, hit it, which is a good answer. And she was about, she was like, she's tempted, she was interested. There's a lot of. Candace is compelling her. And I interrupted her and started screaming, no, no, no, please, no, please, no. And I think that that little exchange tells you a little bit something about what Candace's strategy is here. Because I think over many Trio videos we've been trying to unpack, is she having a psychotic break? Is this a strategy? Because it's not, it isn't a clear grift. Like, it's. The easy thing to say is like, oh, this is a grift. But it's like, well, there are a lot easier ways to grift in conservative media than like coming up with elaborate plots about why Charlie Kirk was killed by the French Legionnaires. Like, I guess more simple grip would have been like a trans chaser or whatever they call them, you know, like a, a furry chaser. You know, he was a furry chaser that killed Charlie Kirk. And like the trans ideology is bad and it's all about trans. Like, that would have been, that would have been a nice little single down the plate to grift in the conservative media space. Make the Charlie Kirk murder about trans. Because there was some evidence of that. She didn't do that. You know, she went, she went for the grand slam, which was, it was the French Legionnaires and Brigitte Macron and the penis and you know, the underwater bee colony and you know, okay, so that's, that makes you wonder, okay, what's happening here? What's her strategy? What's the game she's playing? And increasingly, I think by going after Nick Shirley, by going after the Trump deep state, I think she's, I think she's maybe considering that she can bring in, and I don't mean this as an insult to pumps who ended up coming around and saying the correct thing about Candace, but maybe she can bring in conspiratorial minded lefties who, who share her skepticism about Israel and about the Trump administration and the Trump deep state, and she can take her core base of what are they called? Will Candestans stand us Standasses. Thank you. She can take her core base of standasses and add on to that some conspiratorial lefties and then add on to that some people that watch it, like when you watch a car crash, you're just like, what is happening? This is so I Can't look away. And she can build a new audience out of that. That separates her a little bit from the right wing grift audience. So that's my new analysis. What's happening?

Sam Stein (21:07)

I'm going to counterpoint, if that's okay.

Tim (21:10)

I'm not that confident about this. I'm positing a theory.

Sam Stein (21:13)

I think she's had a. I think she's had a break, like a true break with reality. I don't think she's calculating that much. This is just an outgrowth of Glenn Beck. Right. I mean, the Glenn Beck chalkboard era was like a big deal in the Obama era. And that was just tracing all the little lines that connected all the people and, you know, all their shady operatives and things like that. And if you just didn't see it, you weren't really thinking deep enough. And the reason she couldn't do the Trans Fury thing after Charlie Kirk is because everyone else was doing that. And she had to have one level of distinction between the crowd and so she's got to go a level deeper for her popular appeal. I think she's got. I do think she has her finger on the pulse for that, which is she's. She's glossed onto a bunch of these sort of, you know, murder mysteries and, you know, soap opera detective things and, you know, like the. The. The what was the one with a Boston cop and. And his wife who died. Like, she was, like, super into that. And so she's got some cultural panache that no one else does. But I don't think that's because she's trying to win over lefties. I just think she sees conspiracies around every corner. Yeah.

Will (22:16)

So I actually, Sam, I think I have a bit of information that may help settle this dispute between the two of you.

Sam Stein (22:21)

Well, who do you side with?

Will (22:23)

Well, so what happens is I think Sam may be more right, at least in this case, in terms of the psychotic break, because after this aired, Candace then said the next day, she was like, I demand answers from Nick Shirley. And she had to come out and say, well, never mind. Turns out I was totally wrong about the plane. You know, we can leave Nick Shirley alone. I got the planes mixed up. It doesn't really have anything to do with this boy. So I guess, you know, I guess we're going to leave out there that he's a CIA agent, but maybe we haven't nailed it down.

Tim (22:52)

Hell, yeah, it feels fine. We're just positing.

Sam Stein (22:56)

I got my finger on this.

Tim (22:57)

We're spitballing out here. We're spitballing out here, okay? This isn't about, you know, this isn't about wins and losses. This is about. This is what I tell my eight year old girls. You know, it's about improving every week. You know, it's good sportsmanship, having a good attitude.

Sam Stein (23:09)

Yeah, I tell my kid that. I tell my kid that too. But I'm dying on the sidelines if we lose. All right, last one. This one is hot. I'm not sure how much I want to touch this one, but let's play the video. This thing's been going viral this morning. This is Dresky mimicking Erica Kirk. It is so hot. It's uncomfortably hot. Let's play it.

Will (23:36)

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Sam Stein (24:08)

All right, we can stop it there. We don't need to play more than that. That is fine.

Will (24:15)

Yeah. This is rough for me.

Sam Stein (24:16)

Okay.

Will (24:17)

Yeah.

Sam Stein (24:17)

As of now. As of now, this has 70 million views. Okay. An astonishing number. I'm not going to address this. I don't want to touch this at all. Tim, thoughts?

Tim (24:27)

I'll gladly address it. Thank you for asking me. Some right wingers, including Clay Travis, who, you know, just want to rage bait, are out there being like, this is white face. Because Drewski, for people who don't know, is a black comedian. This is whiteface. This is offensive. You could never do this if you were a white person. It's just like, it's great content. I mean, dude, nailed it. Dude, nailed it. Look at them side by side. I've never seen anything like it. And it is a miracle of modern artistry. He should receive an Emmy for. Do they give Emmys out for hair and makeup costume design? He should win a costume design Emmy for this. It is brilliant. I, more than maybe anyone, have been out here on the streets being like, poor Erica, leave her. Everybody's being too harsh on her. Leave her alone. The conspiracies about Erica are mean. Like, just let her be. Her husband died. It's gotta be hard. Stop with the conspiracies. Stop with the accusations. And I stand by that. This is comedy, though. This is comedy. And you've put yourself in the public space and people can make jokes and do skits about you. That comes with the territory. People make fun of you on Reddit, Sam. It's just. It's part of the deal as a. If you're a minor notable, she's a major notable. And so I gotta say, you just have to hand it. I mean, it is. The execution is off the charts and you could see all the ways in which that could go wrong. During the free press, Gal tried to imitate John Oliver. Yes, she dressed up as John Oliver and it was horrible. It was horrible. And in this kind of thing, the risk is high. You're doing a high wire act, you're imitating someone, you're putting on a costume. It can go really wrong. And for Drisky, it went extremely right. And bravo to him.

Sam Stein (26:23)

I will say the pyrotechnics was a nice touch. I did chuckle at the pyrotechnics, but other than that I didn't like it. We're going to cut it there. Too hot to touch. Don't want to dust. Don't want to step on any landmines. Will Tim thank you so much guys. Appreciate another trio for those who watched. Thank you for watching us. We're trying to bring you the worst of the Internet with the best of the context. Talk to you later. Subscribe to the Feed See ya.

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