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If you're listening to this on your lunch break, you're in the right place. Welcome to a snackable episode of Business Lunch Podcast. Normally it's me, Roland Frazier and my business partner Ryan Dice. But these snackable episodes let me share research I've been doing in a format you can actually listen to. This one's about the first 90 to 100 days after a private equity acquisition. How do you prove margin expansion fast enough that it changes your valuation? Let's get into it.
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Welcome to the deep dive. Today we're plunging into what is probably the most critical high octane period in the life of a private equity backed company.
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Right.
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We're talking about that intense, hyper compressed time frame where management has to generate not just improvement, but, you know, rapid, auditable value creation.
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That 90 to 100 day sprint. It really is a performance test. The clock just starts ticking the second the deal closes.
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And we've brought in a fantastic step stack of sources for this. We have a tactical blueprint for proving margin expansion almost instantly.
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We do. And a strategic framework that's really tailored for the CFO stepping into this PE environment and then sort of the foundation for it all, the philosophy of lean thinking, which is what makes true sustainable speed even possible.
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So our mission today is to give you the shortcut. We want to distill the concrete actions and I guess the essential mindset you need to move lightning fast and seriously boost that business valuation. And that brings us to the core question. How do you move from simply claiming you have margin momentum, which is just a hopeful statement, to actually proving it with, you know, verified undeniable receipts, the kind that can withstand really sophisticated due to diligence.
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That distinction is, well, it's everything in those first hundred days. Investors aren't looking for some kind of theoretical perfection. They don't want a grand multi year strategic plan.
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Not yet.
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Not yet. They're focused on control, on execution against that original investment thesis and just visible forward motion. If you can provide documented proof of increasing efficiency within that first quarter, you fundamentally de risk the asset and you change the entire valuation trajectory.
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Okay, so let's unpack the financial imperative here because it's not just about goodwill. The incentive is really precise.
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It is.
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One of our sources points out that a buyer will pay an estimated, what, 0.2 to 0.4 times EBITDA premium, simply foreseeing margins. Margins improve quarter over quarter.
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That's a huge number. It's an instant confidence boost. We're talking millions added to the sale price down the road.
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So what Exactly. Goes into manufacturing those 90 days of undeniable proof.
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You have to build what's called a proof pack.
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A proof pack.
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Think of it like your financial defense shield. It's a formal deliverable. It has to be designed to be completely audit ready. And it's anchored by a really concise one page buyer packet. That's where you paint the picture.
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It's a high level store.
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Exactly. And that's backed by an ironclad annex, which is where you keep all the documentation, all the receipts.
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So let's start with that one page packet. It has to hit key metrics. Right. I'm seeing the last three quarters of revenue, gross margin, ebitda, and of course the EBITDA percentage.
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And that trend has to be visually obvious. I love your idea of putting a little sparkline trend next to the percentage. So the improvement just, you know, jumps right off the page at the investor. But raw numbers are not enough. You need the narrative. So that page also needs a bridge chart showing exactly what drove the margin percentage change.
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So was it a price increase? Was it a change in product mix.
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Reductions or SG&A cuts? You have to isolate every single driver. Then you need a next 90 forecast.
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And this can't just be wishful thinking. I see here. It needs to show three levers that are already executed. So they're locked in, signed, the P and L impact is certain, mathematically certain.
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And then two planned levers that are already deep in motion. Maybe a vendor negotiation or a tech implementation.
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What about cash?
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We can't forget cash buyers are obsessed with cash conversion. You have to include the trend data for dso, Dio and dpo, Days sales.
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Outstanding, days inventory outstanding and days payable.
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Outstanding, right alongside the working capital delta. These are so critical because they show immediate managerial control over the what you could call the cash clock. If management can prove they're shrinking that cash conversion cycle, they prove they are deeply on the ball.
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Makes sense. If your DSO is dropping, you're collecting cash faster. If your DPO is extending, within reason.
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Within reason, yes.
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It means you're wisely using your suppliers money. It's about optimizing the float. But you said the real credibility. The receipts are in the annex.
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Precisely. The annex holds the verifiable documentation. This is where the paper trail lives. You need timestamped screenshots of the payroll run showing the new comp structure, the.
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Physical contract, amendments with the SaaS providers.
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You've renegotiated the change log for sticking, new pricing adjustments, the signed vendor agreements. Without this full auditable Trail. The numbers are just projections. You're selling a trend with receipts.
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That makes perfect sense. Okay, let's move from documentation to action. How do we actually generate the P and L movement for that proof pack in just 90 days? Our source outlines five tactical high impact moves.
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And these are all designed for velocity. First one, the quick win cost audit. The goal here is a visible 3 to 5% OPEX cut. And the keyword is visible. The savings have to hit the P And l within 30 to 45 days.
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So you don't boil the ocean.
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You don't. You aggressively renegotiate or replace your top five OPEX lines, which are almost always.
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Let'S see, freight and logistics, payment processing Fees, Cloud or SaaS subscriptions.
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Right.
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Consolidating seats, things like that.
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Performance marketing, spend and contract labor. The common thread is they're all high spend, easily negotiable, and there's often immediate fat to trim.
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Exactly. Move two is the performance linked compensation shift. This one's kind of genius because it targets a 50 to 150 basis point EBITDA lift without necessarily resorting to mass layoffs.
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How does that work?
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You shift about 10% of the payroll incentives. So for the sales team, you link their comp directly to gross margin dollars, not just top line revenue.
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Oh, that's a big shift.
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It is. And for operations, bonuses get tied to measurable efficiency metrics. Scrap rate, return rate on time, percentage unit cost. You align the incentives with value creation, not just volume.
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That's a critical psychological shift. You're asking the team to care about efficiency, not just activity. Okay, okay. Move three is that interesting Cash surge. Play the annual prepay. Sick U.
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Yes. And you have to do this carefully. You create bundles that offer net new tangible utility like priority support, a dedicated account manager or early access to features.
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Instead of just offering a big discount.
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Exactly. The goal here is accelerating cash flow. Targeting 30 to 60 days of added Runway and much better optics for both cash and EBITDA in that first quarter.
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But wait a minute, that sounds aggressive. If you focus too heavily on getting customers to prepay, aren't you risking long term satisfaction if that new value isn't truly compelling? I mean, couldn't this short term boost damage the long term relationship?
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That's the core trade off. You're right. It requires real finesse. If you just offer a 20% discount with no added value, it absolutely signals desperation. Savvy investors see right through that.
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It's a cash grab.
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It's a cash grab. The key, as the sources note, is the net new utility. If the customer perceives genuine added value, that solves a real pain point like guaranteed priority uptime. Then the transaction is mutually beneficial and the risk of churn is minimized. It has to be a value exchange, not a deep discount.
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Understood? Okay, move four pricing and mix micro moves.
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This one targets a significant 100 to 300 basis point jump in gross margin. You introduce a good, better, best tier structure and you actively guide 10 to 15% of buyers up a tier.
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And the other side of that coin.
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The other side, which is often overlooked, is you have to rigorously identify and then kill or reprice any SKU that is currently operating at a negative margin.
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Now if we eliminate those negative margin skews, are we risking a reduction in our customer base? That seems like it might contradict the growth model we're supposed to be engineering.
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It's a calculated risk, but it's often a necessary one. Look, if a sku costs A$10 to make and it sells for a dollar, it's actively draining your capital and distracting your operations team. Okay, Killing it signals managerial maturity. The immediate margin lift almost always outweighs the loss of a few unprofitable customers. Especially when the goal is multiple expansion on clean ebitda.
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And finally, the fifth move, Procurement sprints.
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This is all about speed in the supply chain. You execute a rapid two round bid process with key suppliers and you leverage that volume commitment to swap payment terms. The goal is to get a specific DPO increase, say extending your days payable outstanding by 10 days.
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And locking in rebates.
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And locking in auditable schedules for volume based rebates. Again, immediate cash flow benefits and visible control.
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Okay, that is an aggressive tactical list. It's designed to hit the P and L fast, but moving this fast has to introduce massive risk. What are the landmines CFOs hit when they try to do this?
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Oh, the pitfalls are severe. First, you never cut a working growth engine like performance marketing that demonstrably drives profitable leads just to spike a short term margin number.
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Because buyers will see it in due diligence instantly.
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They'll analyze historical spend versus acquisition data and see you've artificially inflated the margin at the expense of your pipeline health. Second, as we just discussed, heavy discounting for prepays without that net new value just smells like a desperate cash grab. It undermines your credibility which is the.
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Most valuable asset you're trying to build. And crucially, we talked about the annexed don't use KPI screenshots without clear verifiable General ledger tieouts or timestamps. The documentation has to be unimpeachable.
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Totally.
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So that tactical plan for the 90 day close, it sits inside a much larger strategic window. The CFO's first hundred days of PE ownership. Let's pivot to that. The urgency here is paramount. It is the role of finance shifts. Completely clean books are no longer a badge of honor. They're the bare minimum. The finance function has to actively unlock systems scalability and cash efficiency.
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That is the strategic shift. The PE sponsors, they've already built their investment thesis a set of assumptions about how the company will grow and where costs can be cut.
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Right?
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And they're watching from day one to see if the CFO can execute on that model. Perfection isn't the goal in the first quarter. Visible momentum is the best. CFOs pinpoint exactly what's blocking scale. And they make demonstrable progress on removing the those blocks.
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To structure this, our sources use the scale 100 framework. Let's go through the five phases. The first letter S stands for set the operating mandate.
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This is all about non negotiable alignment. You review the original investment thesis, maybe you even challenge parts of it. But you clarify the three to five specific measurable outcomes the investors want to see in that first quarter.
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Things like hitting X margin expansion or Y cash conversion metric.
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Exactly. If the CFO isn't perfectly aligned with that mandate, they're just running in the wrong direction. Direction from the start.
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Next up, C, clarify the current state.
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You take a detailed inventory of all the manual processes, the siloed data systems, the reporting gaps. This also includes assessing the health of your general ledger to identify any high risk issues like revenue recognition practices that might not pass a formal audit.
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So that baseline assessment justifies the aggressive changes that come next?
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It does. Which brings us to a architect. The finance core. This is foundation building. A lot of it is system standardization. You have to standardize the chart of accounts, which is essential for PE firms that need to compare performance across a.
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Whole portfolio and establish a consistent rapid monthly close timeline. Let's focus on that for a second. Why is a 5 to 7 day close so critical in a PE environment?
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Speed equals agility. If a company is stuck in a 15 day close cycle, management is making decisions based on data that's already two weeks old.
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That's ancient history in this context.
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It is in a PE world where you need to execute these rapid tactical moves. We just discussed, having numbers ready in five days means you can pivot, optimize and report back to the sponsors with near real time intelligence. This architecture also ensures your ERP can support scalability and future acquisitions.
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Okay, moving on to L Locked on Cash discipline. This seems like it provides immediate tangible proof of control.
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It does. You have to build a 13 week rolling cash forecast that's tied directly to real operational drivers, not just abstract financial assumptions. You Streamline AR&AP, you rigorously enforce collection, and you align vendor terms with customer cycles to smooth out volatility.
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It shows the PE sponsor you're managing working capital proactively.
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That's the whole point.
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And finally, e engineer the growth model. This shifts the focus forward, tying all this new efficiency back to profitable scale.
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Right, you build a comprehensive driver based forecast that clearly shows how future growth plays out. Headcount planning gets tied directly to productivity metrics, not just wishful thinking. And crucially, you stress test the tech stack to make sure it can actually support that expansion without becoming a source of friction.
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Speaking of the tech stack, it's worth dwelling on that for a moment. Our source material is very specific, noting that NetSuite is the most common core ERP choice for PE portfolio companies. Why does that system in particular stand out?
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Well, NetSuite and similar systems are favored because they support rapid roll ups. They can easily consolidate the financials of multiple acquired companies, and they facilitate that segmented reporting that PE sponsors demand. Right, but the deeple point is automation. The best stacks use native automation within the core system. That avoids fragmentation and the financial drag caused by having too much messy middleware connecting disparate systems. Simplicity and integration are the keys to scalability under pressure.
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So we've covered the aggressive 90 day financial tactics and the strategic 100 day system overhaul. But if we connect this to the bigger picture, all this speed and efficiency has to rest on an operational bedrock that prevents waste from creeping back in.
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It does.
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And that brings us to the underlying philosophy of lean thinking.
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Exactly. Lean thinking provides the structural mechanism for getting rid of muda, which is the Japanese term for waste. And while lean is often associated with, you know, manufacturing shop floors, its principles apply perfectly to streamlining the financial close the sales process, the entire system's architecture. It directly drives margin expansion and speed.
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The philosophy is defined by five interconnected principles. Let's break them down. The first principle is value.
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And value is defined solely by the customer. What is the customer actually willing to pay for? The source material clarifies that internally. Real value usually translates only to direct materials and direct labor. Everything else is potential waste.
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The second is the value stream.
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This is so crucial, the Value stream maps out all the activities needed to move a product or service through three foundational activities. Problem solving, information management and physical transformation.
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So in a finance context, mapping the value stream of the monthly close from invoice to financial statement would instantly reveal where the muda the waste is hidden.
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That's a great connection. That's exactly it. So if a reconciliation requires three manual approvals and two days of waiting, that's clearly waste in the information management stream.
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Which brings us to the third principle. Flow.
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Value must flow smoothly without interruption. Any stagnation products sitting idle or cash that's stuck in receivables that represents stagnant cash flow, you have to aggressively remove the root causes of that stagnation.
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Whether it's a machine breakdown in the factory or in the back office. Waiting for a manager's approval.
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Exactly. Removing the friction is paramount. Fourth is pull only produce or process what is explicitly ordered or requested by a customer, internal or external. This minimizes overproduction and inventory, physical or digital. In finance, it means only generating reports that people actually need for decision making, not just massive unused data dumps.
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And the final principle which ties it all together is perfection.
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This is just continuous improvement, structurally and relentlessly minimizing waste using those first four principles. The lean mindset is that when something is improved, you have to immediately improve it again.
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Stagnation is unacceptable.
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It's unacceptable because if you're not improving, your costs are static while the market gets more efficient, which essentially means your margins are eroding.
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And if we look at the guidelines for action that come from lean, they perfectly complement those rapid 9100 day strategies. They focus on how to implement this philosophy fast.
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You start by mapping those value streams, often with a value stream map or VSM for each product, family or core business process. That visualization helps everyone see where the waste is, which immediately tells you where to focus your 90 day cost audits.
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And the importance of early wins can't be overstated. You start with the low hanging fruit departments or processes where you can show.
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Quick visible results that success acts as crucial organizational motivation.
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Right? And practically, this might mean reorganizing a physical layout or in the finance core auditing, the simplest, most repetitive reconciliation task.
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First and ultimately, this all comes back to behavior. Continuous improvement is never ending. And the most critical guideline is training employees in root cause analysis so that everyone from the shipping floor to the accounts payable team can proactively help eliminate waste.
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You can have the perfect strategy, but if the people executing it aren't trained to Spot and eliminate waste the whole system stole.
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Exactly.
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This has been a tremendously insightful deep dive into urgency and efficiency. The synthesis is really clear. Value creation in these rapid environments requires two things at the same time. You need those aggressive short term tactical plays, the 90 day financial proof backed by meticulous data. And you need a foundational strategic shift towards systems control and waste elimination, which comes from that 100 day CFO framework. And the deep seated lean philosophy.
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Precisely. The highest enterprise value isn't just about showing good numbers. It's about selling a trend with receipts backed by systems that guarantee you can repeat it. It's the combination of demonstrating control and showing trajectory.
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So as we wrap up, let's connect that deep financial engineering back to the human element. We discussed how lean thinking is fundamentally about how people behave.
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Right.
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And one of our sources suggested that statistically 10% of any workforce falls into a category of people who actively work against you or resist change. And that their removal is the last painful step in achieving perfection. So if efficiency means standardizing processes and getting rid of friction, what role does the behavior of that human element, the mandatory buy in the training and ultimately the presence of those resistant 10%, play in the success of even the most perfectly engineered plan. Yeah. How much pressure does that put on a leadership team in a 90 day sprint? To manage culture, not just costs. Something to mull over until our next deep dive.
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All right, Roland, here again. So here's what I take away from that. The game isn't just moving fast, it's moving fast with receipts. That proof pack concept, the one page story backed by the ironclad annex. That's the difference between a CFO who talks about improvement and one who can hand an investor a document that survives forensic due diligence. You can engineer a 90 day sprint, but if you don't eliminate the systemic waste, you're just creating a sugar high. The margin boost disappears the second you stop sprinting. If this was helpful, share it with someone who needs to hear it. Thanks for listening. After five years and 100,000 entrepreneurs helped, I'm closing Epic for good. It's fitting that I'm writing this from the same bar chair in my family room where it all started back in 2020, when the world hit pause. A few friends asked how I was still buying and growing companies when everything else was chaos. So I jumped on a small zoom call to share what I was doing. And that call was supposed to be a conversation between friends, but it spread. Friends invited friends, then Hundreds joined, then 800 people that one call turned into the Epic Challenge. The challenge turned into the Accelerator. The accelerator turned into a company. And over the past five years, that accidental company has helped more than 100,000 entrepreneurs learn how to buy, scale, and exit real businesses. Not hypotheticals, not theory, actual acquisitions. But somewhere along the way, I realized something important. I never wanted to build a course business. I'm a deal guy. And the time I spend running EPIC is time I'm not spending doing what I love most. Finding, structuring, and closing deals. So after five incredible years, I've decided to close this chapter for good. No new courses, no new community, no one more round. I'm shutting EPIC down completely so I can return to what I love most. Doing deals, staying off the org chart, and enjoying my time with the people I care about most. That means every EPIC course, framework and training will disappear from public access after this week. The challenge, the accelerator, all of it. Once they're gone, they'll only be available privately to my top clients and acquisition partners. Which, ironically, is how it all started in the first place. If you've ever wanted to learn exactly how I structure, negotiate, and close deals the same way I've been doing them since that first Zoom call in 2020, this is your last chance. The link with the full story and discount bundle is in the show notes, or you can find the link on my socials. Let's finish EPIC the right way.
Podcast: Business Lunch
Host: Roland Frasier
Episode: The 90-Day Proof Pack: How PE Firms Engineer Instant Value
Date: November 27, 2025
This "snackable" episode, hosted by Roland Frasier, dives into the high-pressure, results-driven first 90 to 100 days following a private equity (PE) acquisition. The focus is on how PE-backed companies can quickly, visibly, and audibly prove margin expansion—crucial for enhancing company valuation and passing due diligence scrutiny. Roland explores both tactical "quick win" actions and deeper strategic frameworks, providing a blueprint for CFOs and leadership to move from theoretical improvement to verified growth, supported by robust documentation.
Outlined as a checklist for immediate results—each with emphasis on speed, clarity, and audibility (05:06).
On the difference between theory and proof:
“How do you move from simply claiming you have margin momentum, which is just a hopeful statement, to actually proving it with, you know, verified undeniable receipts...” (B, 01:11)
On the Proof Pack concept:
“Think of it like your financial defense shield. It’s a formal deliverable. It has to be designed to be completely audit ready.” (C, 02:36)
On the importance of documentation:
“Without this full auditable trail, the numbers are just projections. You’re selling a trend with receipts.” (C, 04:52)
On the compensation shift:
“You align the incentives with value creation, not just volume.” (C, 06:15)
On discounts vs. actual value:
“If you just offer a 20% discount with no added value, it absolutely signals desperation. Savvy investors see right through that.” (C, 07:14)
On removing unprofitable products:
“Killing it signals managerial maturity. The immediate margin lift almost always outweighs the loss of a few unprofitable customers.” (C, 08:21)
On urgent PE reporting:
“Speed equals agility. If a company is stuck in a 15-day close, management is making decisions based on data that’s already two weeks old.” (C, 12:13)
On lean philosophy:
“Stagnation is unacceptable because if you’re not improving, your costs are static while the market gets more efficient, which essentially means your margins are eroding.” (C, 16:46)
On the people factor:
“10% of any workforce falls into a category of people who actively work against you or resist change, and their removal is the last painful step in achieving perfection.” (B, 18:54)
The episode strongly emphasizes that proving value creation in PE-backed companies isn’t about theoretical improvements or wishful projections—it’s about demonstrating with auditable, real-world documentation that improvement is underway and sustainable. The episode's actionable strategies (the Proof Pack, financial tactics, and the SCALE100 framework) are underpinned by the philosophy of lean thinking and the necessity of organizational buy-in.
Final word from Roland:
“The game isn’t just moving fast, it’s moving fast with receipts. That proof pack concept, the one page story backed by the ironclad annex. That’s the difference between a CFO who talks about improvement, and one who can hand an investor a document that survives forensic due diligence.” (A, 19:31)
For those seeking to engineer instant, repeatable value in PE deals, this episode provides both the practical framework and the cultural perspective needed for lasting success.