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Summary

Bussin’ With The Boys

Episode: All-Pro DT Jeffery Simmons Squashes Taylor Lewan Beef & Breaks Down Titans Coaching Search
Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Will Compton & Taylor Lewan
Guest: Jeffery Simmons, Tennessee Titans All-Pro DT

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Episode Overview

This episode brings All-Pro defensive tackle Jeffery Simmons onto the bus for a deeply candid, insightful, and at times hilarious conversation. While the boys spend some time chopping it up about snow days, soup, UFC fights, and general “clean takes,” the heart of the episode revolves around:

• Titans coaching culture: the transition from Mike Vrabel to Callahan to McCoy, leadership styles, and team identity
• Honest reflections on losing seasons and locker room dynamics
• Team leadership, player accountability, and what’s lost in translation with young rosters
• The real story behind the “beef” between Simmons and Taylor Lewan—aired out and squashed live on the mic
• Jeffery Simmons’ powerful thoughts on therapy, fatherhood, and breaking the cycle

The language is raw, authentic, and captures both the locker-room energy and the vulnerability of the guests. If you want to understand the actual pulse of NFL team culture, this episode is a masterclass.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Winter in Nashville: Snow-Day Banter

[03:23 – 14:00]

• The crew debates the merits of impending big Nashville snows.
• Will is openly anti-snow (“Snow can kick rocks, buddy.” [08:07]), while Taylor and JP wax nostalgic about snowmen, sledding, and snow day soup.
• They riff on classic snow day rituals, struggles bundling up kids, and why winter hits different as an adult and a parent.

Notable Quotes:

• “I have feral kids. They just want to be outside and rip around in the mud and stuff like that.” – Will Compton [05:23]
• “If I could just travel to snow, I don’t need it to come to me that often.” – JP [09:28]

Memorable Moment:
Debate gets heated over how snow changes the sauce on soup, video games, and family vibes:

• “Playing video games when the snow is outside. Hits different.” – Taylor Lewan [32:46]

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2. Titans Coaching Transitions: Inside the Locker Room

[55:08 – 101:42]

From Vrabel to Callahan to McCoy

• Simmons describes Vrabel as setting a “foundation”—clear, demanding, and consistent.
• Under Callahan, the team identity was lost: “What is really our identity? ...I really feel like we really didn’t have [one].” – Simmons [58:24]
• Simmons emphasizes the difference between Vrabel’s rigor and Callahan’s lighter touch—how crucial tone and early leadership are.
• Lack of accountability and situational football drills led to internal frustration: “The little things off the football field... lead to the football field.” – Simmons [61:46]

Leadership and Accountability with a Young Roster

• Simmons details struggles motivating younger players: “The hardest part about leading is how can I get through certain guys?... If I say certain things, this guy gonna think I’m talking about him directly, and he gonna try to feel, I guess, like he gonna—emotionally.” [81:15]
• He credits therapy and trusted mentors (uncle, DeMarcus Ware) for evolving his leadership style.
• Player-led efforts to maintain culture and keep the locker room from fracturing, even in tough seasons.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps:

• “Winning solves everything.” – Will Compton [57:56]
• “Leadership is from within. We can keep this locker room together no matter what we’re going through.” – Simmons [84:52]
• “Being nice is not the way this thing’s gonna work. You have to set your foundation.” – Simmons [87:19]
• “To win the Super Bowl… that’s something we all dream of. That’s the reason why we play this game.” – Simmons [154:54]

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3. Titans Coaching Search: Defensive or Offensive Minded?

[95:20 – 102:27]

• Will and Taylor ask Simmons what kind of head coach he wants for the Titans.
• Simmons leans defensive: “I would love a defensive head coach... Especially if he’s a defensive front guy, you know. If he let his defensive front go.” [97:12]
• But he’s clear: winning > everything, and the right fit for young QB Cam Ward is crucial.
• Discussion on the “secret sauce” (like Vrabel/McDaniels in New England), why offensive coordinators often get poached if successful, and the dream pairing of Robert Saleh as HC with Mike McDaniel as OC.

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4. The Real Story: Simmons & Lewan’s Locker Room Beef

[102:27 – 125:05]

The Camp Incident

• Will brings up a notorious altercation: Will banked Simmons on a play, Simmons got pissed, and it carried tension into the locker room for a year.
• Jeffery: “There’s been a lot of things to where, you know, I’m not saying a coach have to do that, but it’s also just that feeling in the building…” [61:45]
• Full-on “locker room court,” both rehashing the escalation and eventual apology.
• Simmons: “I apologize for creating a grudge.” [124:50]
• Resolution comes, and everyone, even the audience, exhales.

Memorable Moment:

• The “gold chain” storyline: Taylor had previously promised (and forgotten) to buy Simmons a gold chain. The bit runs deep, with Simmons dryly ribbing Taylor for broken promises and high-roller ways. [147:40+]

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5. Player Culture: Building Identity and Standards

[78:56; 84:51]

• Taylor and Will press on the challenges of getting young players to internalize a “championship standard.”
• Simmons explains it’s about not letting the standards slip—a lesson from the Vrabel days: “How can I not let guys be okay with being okay? Just being okay, you won’t win football games in the league.” [82:41]
• Taylor: “As a leader... you’re able to speak on stuff you don’t even need to know. That matters, they respect it.” [66:57]

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6. Vulnerability: Fatherhood, Therapy, and Breaking the Cycle

[128:11 – 147:47]

• Simmons describes his upbringing without a father, being the man of the house with his brother, and the impact on his own parenting.
• Powerful segment on considering reaching out to his father, and why therapy is a 2026 priority: “It was hard, because for me, it was like all the stuff that I’ve been through in life… I feel like I got through it, but not really got through it.” [143:02]
• Will and Taylor both share their journeys with parents—creating deep empathy on the show.
• The hope: therapy will eventually prepare Simmons for that conversation with his dad.

Notable Quotes:

• “The biggest thing this year is do more therapy. To be able to maybe... eventually have a sit down with him.” – Simmons [144:12]
• “As a parent... it’s about how can I be the best dad for my child.” – Simmons [134:17]

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7. Miscellaneous “Clean Takes” & Locker Room Vibes

Throughout

• Classic Bussin’ with the Boys topics: snow day rituals, soup debates, early dinner times, kids' activities, outdoor adventures.
• Will’s “clean takes” run: “It’s never too early for dinner.” [35:20] / “Breakfast over dinner as a parent is the way—kids are better behaved, breakfast easy.” [45:16]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “What is really our identity? ...I really feel like we really didn’t have [one].” – Jeffery Simmons [58:24]
• “The little things off the football field...lead to the football field.” – Simmons [61:46]
• “Leadership is from within. ...We can keep this locker room together no matter what’s going on in the season.” – Simmons [84:52]
• “How can I not let guys be okay with being okay?” – Simmons [82:41]
• “Being nice is not the way this thing’s gonna work. You have to set your foundation.” – Simmons [87:19]
• “I think the hardest part about leading is how can I get through certain guys?” – Simmons [81:15]
• “My goal, especially this year, is do more therapy… to maybe, eventually have a sit down with him [my dad].” – Simmons [144:12]
• “I don’t care about draft pick. I want to win football game.” – Simmons [77:36]

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Episode Flow – Key Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | Topic | | ------- | --------- | ----- | | Small Talk/Snow Debate | 03:23 – 14:00 | Snow in Nashville, snow day memories and pet peeves | | Titans Culture & Vrabel/Callahan | 55:08 – 101:42 | Team identity, coaching, locker room standards | | Titans HC Search | 95:20 – 102:27 | What’s needed, offense vs. defense, ideal hire | | Simmons/Lewan Beef | 102:27 – 125:05 | Rehashing and squashing aged locker room tensions | | Leadership/Player Culture | 78:56 – 84:51 | Player standards, holding teammates accountable | | Therapy & Fatherhood | 128:11 – 147:47 | Simmons on childhood, therapy, breaking paternal cycle | | Fun Wrap-Up/Gold Chain/Outro | 147:40 – end | Gold chain promise, Super Bowl sacrifices, group hugs |

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Final Takeaways

• This episode is a masterclass in blending unfiltered NFL culture with deep, honest introspection. Simmons’ candor about leadership, the locker room, and his own growth—from wanting to fight in the locker room to prioritizing therapy—lays out a blueprint for the next generation.
• The “clean take” format keeps the fun rolling: From soup to snow to video game rituals, it’s the ultimate locker room environment—competitive, brash, but ultimately caring and authentic.
• The beef between Simmons and Lewan gets a perfect resolution: It’s funny, heartfelt, and shows that grown men (and elite athletes) have to learn the same lessons about ego, communication, and forgiveness that the rest of us do.
• Simmons’ vulnerability about his father and his plans for therapy is both inspiring and poignant—a rare look behind the mask of NFL toughness.

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“My goal, especially this year, is do more therapy… to maybe, eventually have a sit down with him [my dad].”
– Jeffery Simmons [144:12]

“How can I not let guys be okay with being okay?... You won’t win football games in the league.”
– Jeffery Simmons [82:41]

“Taylor, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have hit you that hard. It wasn’t intentional, and I shouldn’t have gone to your locker.”
– Will Compton [124:01]

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A must-listen for anyone who wants to understand real NFL team culture, the pressures of leadership, and the evolving journey of athletes as men, not just players.

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[Jeffrey Simmons]

All right, we're good.

[Taylor Lewan]

Be like busting with the boys.

[Will Compton]

Hanging.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

With the fellas Betting on a game.

[Will Compton]

No woman's gonna tell us what to do and I've been over here just drinking beer and making that noise, baby. I'm hanging with the fellas.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Busting with the boys, bro.

[Taylor Lewan]

Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This is episode 364. We're having big Jeff Simmons on the podcast.

[Will Compton]

Jeff Simmons.

[Taylor Lewan]

We got a massive snow coming this weekend in Nashville.

[Will Compton]

I don't like that. I don't like that.

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

Listen, you brought up something during before you got into the ad read and it's I walk, I walk back on the bus, get myself some water. You say something about 18 possible inches of snow.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah. So. So per our sources, the weather app's telling us 15 to 18.

[Will Compton]

Per our sources.

[Taylor Lewan]

Per our sources weather apps telling us 15 to 18 and the Weather Channel is saying 5 to 8 regardless.

[Will Compton]

Not good.

[Taylor Lewan]

Regardless. We're getting snow. Dude, it snows are good.

[Will Compton]

You get a snow day that's a Kevin's natural Arizona. That's why you live in Arizona.

[Taylor Lewan]

Kevin's natural foods clean snow days are fun.

[Will Compton]

No snow days. You're right. Snow day is fun. Having a snow day. Snowmen, sleds, maybe some ice skating going on outside. All fun stuff. All fun stuff. Guys, this is. That's people doing real snow places.

[JP]

We could do it at your house.

[Will Compton]

Snowing or skating Snowing.

[JP]

If the pond freezes over.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. You need like multiple days for it to freeze over. Like you have to have. I believe it's weeks like three weeks of below freezing.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like a foot.

[JP]

Right?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. You'd have to that and you have somebody walk on it. I'm not going to be the guy that walks on it. But anyway, snow day is fun. After day we're done. Shut it down. Oh no. Oh, this is a clean take right here.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's not a clean.

[Will Compton]

Arizona's the best. That's clean take. That's a clean day. You don't like that take? No, no, I do. I say a lot.

[Taylor Lewan]

A lot of good states out there.

[Will Compton]

Lot of good states. A lot of good stakes. A lot of good states. Regardless, snow days are fun but not. I don't want it more than a day.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Oh.

[Will Compton]

Oh nothing. Oh no, nothing. I hate that we're due to clean take to you. You don't like that take.

[Taylor Lewan]

We're due for a good snow when you have.

[Will Compton]

We're not due for nothing.

[Taylor Lewan]

When you got the boots at the door. All the kids snow clothes are sitting there drying and you're hoping it's dry because you know tomorrow morning the kids are going to want to rip out.

[Will Compton]

In the snow again. Yeah, there's nothing better.

[Taylor Lewan]

It dries up because it's just wet.

[Will Compton]

30,000 foot view. Sounds amazing. Now let's go three weeks of having snow on the ground. It's freezing outside, it's frigid every day. You got to bundle these little guys up every day and they're not thinking themselves. My five year old daughter goes outside in a dressing like, honey, it's January. You can't do that. She goes, yes, I can. I'm like, technically you can, but you're going to get sick. And then they don't want to wear shoes. I have feral kids. They just want to be outside and rip around in the mud and stuff like that. And it's like, I have to bundle you up. I put the shoes on. I have to have the fight about the shoes. We put the pants on, but we need layers in the pants. We put the stockings on, then the pants and then those little buttons. That's a bit of a pain in the ass too.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So you, you just don't like winter. You, it's not like you don't like snow because you have to do that regardless.

[Taylor Lewan]

In January, I don't mind.

[Will Compton]

Like this weekend when it was 20 degrees but the sun was out. Cool. I can handle that. Winter, I'm all about that.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But I'm saying you still got a.

[Will Compton]

Bundle of the car during winter time. That's a winner to me. I like that. But having snow, snow's good for Christmas. Gooch week. As Jack eloquently put it a few weeks ago. New Year's, New Year's hits. We're all in depression mode. It's, hey, we're sad till spring.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You know what makes you not depressed?

[Will Compton]

Snow for that day. You're absolutely right.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I will be having a little pep in my step anytime there's snow.

[Will Compton]

Right? It'll be fun for that day. Hey guys, let's go to the studio. O2 sledding the whole time. After two weeks, think about after driven by it. Slushing, the kiddos.

[Taylor Lewan]

You get the kiddos all bundled up and then you're building that snowman or you're going down that hill on a.

[Will Compton]

Sleigh or a sleigh.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Or you're just, you go outside and like, you know what, let's just get, let's just cause a razz. Get a snowball. Just chuck it at somebody and plans canceled.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like anything you think you might not be wanting to go to snow just made that decision for you.

[Will Compton]

I can see a pro in that. Yeah, I can see a pro in that. Every winter it's the same thing. Everyone's the same thing. I get up in the morning, there's snow on the ground. Towns like. You sure you go to work today, babe? Yeah. We have the bus. I'm going. But it's snowing outside. It's like, I'm going. And then there's nobody on the road. It's more dangerous. Can't drive as fast.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, but there's also that, like, trucks.

[Will Compton]

Don'T do well in the snow. Gotta put some sandbags in the back of that thing.

[Taylor Lewan]

There's also that focus and challenge going on of being careful and looking at all the snow and let me go. Let me go ahead and turn on this road.

[Will Compton]

Road. Let me go ahead and turn on this road. Let me go and do my exact routine I do every single day with more caution.

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't know why you're being mean right now.

[Will Compton]

No, I'm not being mean. I'm just. I'm selling my point. He had a clean take. I had a clean, clean take. I had a clean take.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I don't know if it was very clean.

[Will Compton]

You guys trying to sell me on the clean take on my. My take's not clean, but I think it's clean.

[Taylor Lewan]

Here's a pessimistic take.

[Will Compton]

It might be pet peeve. Pet peeve. Snow. Snow. More than one day. Yeah. Snow out of the calendar. I just told you guys, Gooch week in Christmas. Out of that. Snow can kick rocks, buddy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, that's an.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's. That's an Arizona kid.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, he's an Arizona boy.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Not used to this.

[Taylor Lewan]

I get it. I do get it.

[Will Compton]

I know. There's one individual in this place who's been pretty quiet because they agree with me. No, I just think it's just. I ain't talking to you, Jack, man. Just a bad taste. Everyone's happier when it's snows. Everybody.

[Taylor Lewan]

Kids, adults, Everybody watching, just comment. Oh, Taylor, come on.

[Will Compton]

Do you guys want to go have a snow day or is it summertime? Shorts, barbecue, pool.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's not what we're doing. We know a big snow's coming season. We're accepting that a big snow is coming, and we're being optimistic about the big snow coming.

[Will Compton]

I want the snow day.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, yeah, if I could be on a beach and getting some sunshine. Like, yeah, it's a great day.

[Will Compton]

Oh, so you're a beach guy now?

[Taylor Lewan]

No, I'm just saying I can be all the guys.

[Will Compton]

Jp, how do you feel?

[JP]

I do understand what you're saying. I would just extend my day. Like, I enjoy more than one snow day. Maybe. Give me three to five.

[Will Compton]

Done. Okay. I'LL sign off on that. It's clean. Take. Yeah, three to five.

[JP]

Other than that, it's perfectly fine. If I could just travel to snow. I don't need it to come to me that often.

[Will Compton]

Exactly.

[JP]

But three to five days. Get a lot of sledding. Yeah, yeah, it's fine here. It snows like once a. Once a year. Like a big snow here. I feel like. Which I can handle. Yeah, I love sledding almost as much as anybody, but I am with you. Three to five days.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I'll take three to five days.

[JP]

I'll hit y' all up on that fifth day. See who's still outside.

[Taylor Lewan]

Snow can definitely be. And outside, especially when it melts and it's all gone and there's just like this transition that happens again. Like just super dirty to just getting everything kind of cleaned up. But just knowing a good snow is coming. Due for a good snow. We're due for a good snow.

[Will Compton]

You always eat some good food somehow when it snows.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Soup tastes different.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Hot chocolate.

[Will Compton]

I'm over here hearing guys get excited about soup.

[Taylor Lewan]

You don't like soup?

[Will Compton]

Three to five, man. I'll do three.

[Taylor Lewan]

Everybody coming. Oh, Taylor, come on, dude. You like soup either?

[Will Compton]

I like soup. I like soup. But when you go soup, it's different.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Can I.

[Taylor Lewan]

Does soup not hit different on a cold day with snow outside?

[Will Compton]

Soup's great. Porridge. Whatever, dude.

[JP]

Three to five days.

[Will Compton]

Some sort of broth. I'm with it. It's good. It's del. Especially on a cold day. It's nice, but different.

[Taylor Lewan]

Come on, Taylor. Pumpkin spot is. Pumpkin stuff hits different when it's Halloween time.

[Will Compton]

It does.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Is.

[Will Compton]

It does. Totally different.

[Taylor Lewan]

And picture of Taylor sitting across from you being like, listen, you guys talk up this stuff. That hits different because it's Halloween time. We be. Oh, come on.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, no, I'm with that. But that person be wrong. Is. I'm over here thinking about soup right now.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Is. Is. Is Taylor being in a bit of an energy vampire right now?

[Taylor Lewan]

He kind of is being an energy vampire, man.

[Will Compton]

I guess. I guess my truth isn't good enough for you guys, huh? I have a little bit of. I walk into a safe space, I think, where I can just talk to my voice. This is how I feel. Thank you, jp. Does that make me an energy vampire? Because I'm like, I'm not too excited about 18 inches of snow. I'm a snow vampire, dude. You won't even be here for it. I'll be out there with a hairdryer. I'm putting down the, the plastic tarps like Jack's dad.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hey, speaking of soup, my wife and I, we have a snow day soup that we always used to make in Pennsylvania every time we had a snow day. So I'll send you the recipe. Oh, yeah, and make sure, like put it, put it, put it on the video too, so everybody can kind of see the soup recipe. Snow day soup. And then you have you in and out in the snow and then you got food ready every time you come in warm soup.

[Will Compton]

Great, great recipe.

[Taylor Lewan]

Soup on a snow day. What are you dipping in that snow day? What are you dipping in that snow day soup recipe? The clumps. French bread, probably with a little butter.

[Will Compton]

Oh, a baguette.

[JP]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Oh, let's go.

[Taylor Lewan]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

I kind of, I'm getting on that baguettes hit. Different now.

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[Will Compton]

Something like a nice slice of bread, freshly toasted with some, like some seasoned butter.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, there we go.

[Will Compton]

That's hitting. You know when that hits any day of the year, that's when that hits. Soup hits too. When the weather kind of breaks a little bit. I like a little soup in my spooktober. I like that. I like in my December. I like December 15th soup. I love that.

[JP]

I think we should bring back soup in thermoses. I feel like that's a good, like.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just kind of carrying it around.

[JP]

I say bring it back. I've never actually done that. I just see the movies. Like, man, that is cool.

[Will Compton]

With the cup that unscrews and you pour it in, then you got it. Like, man, just sip from the bottle. And you know what? I'll go even farther on the snow. December 1st to January 1st. I can do, I can do snow. I can do snow. But now we're in the middle of January. Like, yeah, we're all thinking about the spring right now.

[Taylor Lewan]

But so that means too, that the weather took something from us that we wanted, that we needed, that we craved.

[Will Compton]

Nope.

[Taylor Lewan]

And now they're giving us one.

[Will Compton]

I need to crave one and need a grave. Was not a part of my what I, I, I was like, oh, that's a good, that's a good spot to have snow. Pickles on a sandwich. I'll take them or leave it if it comes in that time. But we get to mid Jan, it's like, what are y' all doing? They're piling on three to five. I'll take that. So whatever. When I get back from Vegas on Sunday, I'll land to a snow ridden Experience kind of would be a dub, wouldn't it, Jack? No, I want to be here for that snow. And kind of off what you're saying, not getting the snow from December 1st to jam one like Will. It's like you're missing something. And we're going to get cold weather for the next month or, you know, month and a half. It's nice to catch a snow day.

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[Will Compton]

Can provide just a little bit of sunshine.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

You know when the cold weather can provide sunshine, when the sun comes out during cold weather. Well then why do you live in Nashville? I know. Well, we're here then. I'm showing the reason of it. Let's make the best of it.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Enjoy the snow.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, man, make the best of it.

[Will Compton]

Hey, and there's one thing when you're.

[Taylor Lewan]

Everybody come and say, oh, come on, make the best of it.

[Will Compton]

Even if you don't like it though the look on your kids faces when they wake up to sleep it I'm so excited for that's going to be all time for you. I'm so excited for my kids, man. They're going to have a great time. Dad, come out and play. No, come on. Can we make this? No, we can't. I'll just sit there with my soup that's hitting different from the window. Just watch in my thermos be like I guess I'm checking all my boxes right now. Get dad, look at this. That's great, honey. That's awesome. Fire going. That is it. Fires hit different fires do it different fires hit different now. Yes, yes, yes. I might even put on some Christmas music during it. Pretend like Christmas. I might go buy another tree. I might redo Christmas. I got to bring some sort of positivity. But yeah, man, I'll tell you this. I'm out on snow. Anywho, onwards.

[Taylor Lewan]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Growth in other categories. But anyway, Dave's coming. It's going to be a great time. I can't wait to have him. Can't wait to have. No, Dave's gonna have his own. You know, Dave out there probably saying, he tells you me macking up some ladies. He was over at my house yesterday asking about Taylor's friend on, Dave, what are we doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Dave. Dave's gonna be out there, man. Dave's also learned. Dave's also learned AI. He just kind of sends me AI photos of himself, and he's like, did a photo shoot the other day and, like, showing him bike, a Harley. Like, Dave, I don't know much about technology, but I know for a fact that's not. That's not you. So I know this is me. I also. And then it's like him on, like, by. On, like, a helicopter pad on a skyscraper. Like, oh, Dave, when were you in New York? Yeah. You know, it's on his Tinder profile.

[Taylor Lewan]

I feel like parents, the older parents or grandparents, like, they love that vibe, too. It's like, whenever. Like, the big emojis, they figured out that they could send those to you. Yeah. When there's big characters. I feel like now the new wave might be.

[Will Compton]

I can find a couple photos, might.

[Taylor Lewan]

Be putting themselves in these AI photos.

[Will Compton]

Man.

[Taylor Lewan]

That'll be fun, though. Little father, son action.

[Will Compton]

Little father, son action. He wants that. He was like, you know, bucket list to go to UFC event. Would love to gamble with you all those things. And he's kind of. He's done that throughout the course of.

[Taylor Lewan]

25, dropping little eggs, dropping little hands to the point.

[Will Compton]

I'm like, do you want to come to Vegas? And he's like, oh, I mean, I'd love to. Yeah. I'm like, if you want to come to. Dude, you're more than welcome to come on to Vegas. We'll have a good weekend. We have a good crew there. But I already know. I already know I'm gonna have a my dad is bragging on his son moment where I'm like, having. Like that. Can you stop? And I'm sure everybody else is like, this is totally fine. Like, this is just a father bragging on a son. But in my brain, I'm gonna have a heart. I have to, like. I have to see it, understand it's happening, and then just fall back and allow him to keep talking to whatever individual is having to suffer through that 15 minutes. That's.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's what I'm gonna figure out on Dad.

[Will Compton]

I tell this story all the time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Here they are. Here's one. Here's one. Yeah, there's Dave on a motorcycle. Sent me that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hell, yeah.

[Will Compton]

All right, Dave. Hold on.

[Taylor Lewan]

You know he gonna get them dating profiles going.

[Will Compton]

George Washington. Him in a chair, just in a suit.

[Taylor Lewan]

Look. He met George Washington.

[Will Compton]

Holy. I mean, Dave. Dave got them arms, though.

[Taylor Lewan]

He does.

[Will Compton]

They've got them biceps, triceps, forceps, rceps. He's got it all. He's got a body of George there. Yeah. George couldn't handle Dave back in the day. There's no way. Could you imagine if Dave was on the British side? We might have English accents.

[Taylor Lewan]

For real.

[Will Compton]

For real. Right? They've had that. Now they got him down at the knees. You got shaky knees like a son. It's tough. I inherited his shaky knees.

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Taylor Lewan]

JP our UFC correspondent seems like it's.

[JP]

The year of Patty Pimblett. It's for the interim championship belt. I believe he's going to get it. Which is sad because Justin Gaethje, legend of the game has has given us so many great moments throughout his UFC career and he could very well. Just like any UFC fight could come out of there with a W. But watching Patty versus Mike last time. It seems like Patty is a different kind of locked in right now.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[JP]

And I'm excited because I'm also excited. Sean o' Malley is on that card too. He's fighting Sonya Dong. And Taylor was telling me about the podcast he was doing, talking about, man, how far have I fallen? I'm not even the co main all this stuff. And I think he's just setting it up perfectly for him to knock Songy Dong out and kind of give it to that. That sugar.

[Will Compton]

I feel like it's gonna be a good week. It's gonna be a good weekend for fan favorites. Fan favorites. To catch a dove. I think Patty's hitting his stride after we did to our boy. That's heartbreaking. But he's kind of just been doing his thing. And then Gaichi, as much as everybody loves Gaethje, he's like on the tail end. This is a great opportunity for Patty to take advantage of that. And then, yeah, I think Sean o', Malley, after he rode so high like Icarus and it's kind of fallen a little bit. He's addressed it. He talks about. He talks down about himself. A little self deprecating humor in this pod about how much he just sucks now.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And I think that's the perfect. We're talking about C.J. stroud, this offseason type mentality, you know?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

He's about the body bag, the world. So that's. I'm excited to go see that.

[Taylor Lewan]

I'll get to watch my new little theater room.

[Will Compton]

Are you fully moved in?

[Taylor Lewan]

We will be this week. We will be this week.

[Will Compton]

In a snow day.

[Taylor Lewan]

I know in a snow day, but we got a nice little hill in the front yard. The kids are gonna love. Daddy go down on the sled a little bit.

[Will Compton]

A hill in the front yard.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, we got a little hill. Got a little hill in the front yard. Yeah, it's nice. I'm telling you. I'll send you a photo.

[Will Compton]

Send me a photo.

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[Will Compton]

I've asked Will multiple times, like, hey, man, can I come see the house yet? Can I come, like, check it.

[Taylor Lewan]

You've asked me one time twice. Okay.

[Will Compton]

Maybe two, which is multiple. He's like, no, I gotta wait until I. This thing's all set up. I want. He wants to have a big welcome. Welcome to the Compton estate. And I respect and love that. I'm just having a little FOMO myself. I'm hearing that we're moving in. All the things are taking place. I'm like, can't Wait to get my hands on that sauna.

[Taylor Lewan]

You have to come before you go off to Vegas.

[Will Compton]

Can I? Yeah, I would love to. I would love to.

[JP]

Because it's pretty much photo shoot at the new house or the old house.

[Taylor Lewan]

The new one.

[JP]

Got you.

[Taylor Lewan]

We did a little. We did a little quick like 30 minute deal over at the new house. Get we. It was fun getting Scotty in a diaper and some little cowboy boots running around.

[Will Compton]

Kids in California. That's awesome. We're fired up for you. It's gonna be a nice little time.

[JP]

Jp, Costco guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, over by Costco.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Jp, you're in Seattle this weekend?

[JP]

I was, man. Heard that stadium rocking all the way from Olympic National Park.

[Will Compton]

No way.

[Taylor Lewan]

I did, man.

[Will Compton]

How was it? What'd you guys do?

[JP]

Man, we did, we did a lot because we really only were there for just Saturday. So we went to Olympic national park, hiked Hurricane Ridge, which was awesome. It's like a three mile loop and you get to see basically you look out to the left, you look to the water where like Canada would be on the other side of you look out to the right. It's back. Just all mountains going back like more east. And so full panoramic view of every kind of site you would want. Then we drove probably two and a half hours to this rainforest, the Hoh rainforest. And it was incredible. It's like mossy trees, the river flowing through. People are fly fishing on the drive there. The drive is just as awesome as the actual forest. So that was like a 1 1/2, 2 mile hike in there. Then drive to Rialto beach to catch the sunset. And could not have capped it off any, any better way. The sun goes down, we're starting to leave. Bald eagle flies overhead.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, let's go. She take her hat off?

[JP]

Yeah, took my hat off. I was on the phone with my mom at the time, FaceTime and I said I gotta go. Hung up immediately call back. She what happened? I said, America happened.

[Taylor Lewan]

And oh, mom gotta go.

[JP]

Yeah, but it was so cool, man. That was my first time out there. Then the next morning we got up early, we drove back to Seattle to go to Pike Place Market which had this insane smoked salmon sandwich.

[Taylor Lewan]

It was so good.

[JP]

I saw the fish get tossed, which was, which was fun, but really cool. I gotta get back out there ASAP because there's so much to explore.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[JP]

And it does something to the soul when you're out there in that nature.

[Will Compton]

Dude, that area, that area of the world, man. It's got different it's very cool.

[JP]

Yeah, I guess it's like a maybe like what, a four hour drive to Kelowna or.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, it's like a 30 minute flight from Seattle to Kelowna. And that's every time I like fly into Seattle or spend a little time there. It's like this is. They're very similar as far as like landscape and everything like that. That's just awesome to be around Vancouver, bro.

[JP]

I know.

[Will Compton]

I got it. I think it's Victoria Island.

[JP]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

A chance to go there. It's so much fun. Taylor and I, she took me like off like fishing in Victoria island. And we're sitting there, got the. Everyone kind of doing the deal by. Hey, this is where we fish. We're going, we're. We're trolling. And they're like pointing out like that mountain ridge right there is America. That one's Canada. You're looking around those little islands everywhere. It is very fucking cool, my friend. The photo that Sherman's up, we had tea in that building.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, that is sick.

[JP]

Yeah, it is incredible. And from Port Angeles to get to Victoria island is like an hour and a half ferry. So we were thinking about doing it because my friend lives there.

[Will Compton]

But check that. That's the building.

[JP]

It was canceled that like for the next three weeks. There's no ferry going to Victoria, but I'll be back out there for sure.

[Will Compton]

They had a bunch of biplanes too.

[JP]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

That would like just fly around that area and it's just so cool. A lot of orcas. A lot of orcas in that area. Hotbed. Hotbed for the orcas.

[Taylor Lewan]

Love orcas.

[Will Compton]

Bunch of pods ripping around around there.

[Taylor Lewan]

You were bringing up the outdoors. You know who's gonna love the outdoors this weekend?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Who?

[Taylor Lewan]

Clay Matthews. The snowfall that comes down. If you got like stuff to ride around outside in farmland to drive on.

[JP]

Delaney will be going nuts.

[Taylor Lewan]

Delaney.

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[Taylor Lewan]

Four wheeler, four wheelers, the gator or the side by sides pulling sleds on the back of that. Oh, that's a different level. And you would love that.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I can see myself loving that for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's one where you look at you, you shift the mental round a little bit differently because you're somebody who has access to all these outdoor toys and you got a bunch of land to rip around the snow in.

[Will Compton]

I don't deny that all that snow provides these types of things. I'm talking about. I'm talking about the in between dog. That's a good day. You can get that done in three to five days. What you just said right there, I love three.

[Taylor Lewan]

Knowing you wake up each morning, get out in the land, and rip around.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. But by the third day of doing that every day, you're like, so what do we do today? It's probably do the same thing.

[JP]

Taylor. They. They need to send us to Brian Peters new house in Idaho just for, like, a snow boot camp.

[Will Compton]

Now, bro. There's something about when I see, like, people in, like, Norway or Sweden, like, do the saunas and they get out and they jump in the cold water. I'm like, that's, that's kind of nice. I like that. Then the towing. I, I. There's a lot of activities. You knock those out in three to five days. That's why you go see the snow. Enjoy the snow.

[Taylor Lewan]

Come on.

[Will Compton]

Then you get. No, stop. Sherm.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's highlighting hibachi night with the boys at the shop. What does that mean? Like, have hibachi chefs come over and, like, do a hibachi night here?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

People at the shop. Could be kind of nice. Could be nice just like a dinner. The boys. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Do what?

[Will Compton]

You've never seen that?

[Taylor Lewan]

No.

[Will Compton]

They come to you, they bring the. The table and they cook it in front of you. So we can just set up tables however we want.

[Taylor Lewan]

And they do a show for everybody. I think it could be good for the vlog.

[Will Compton]

A little content game going.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Fun vlog. Another one. Another one. You got you. You also have on the list paintball. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Are we doing it? I just want. I just wanted to pulse check because Saturday would be great.

[Taylor Lewan]

Paintball snow day.

[Will Compton]

Jeremy had confirmed that we have a place that we could go paintball at. It's really just finding a date to do it.

[Taylor Lewan]

So the play, it's like a paintball spot clump. You've talked to them, so they. They're more than happy to have the boys out prepared for this. But, yes, there is a. There's a place that will let us come. They'll shut down the whole place so.

[Will Compton]

We can just play every.

[Taylor Lewan]

Every course all day.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I guess Delaney's hooked up with them. I forget the name of what it is.

[Will Compton]

I think Delaney took all the titans out there during OTAs 1 years.

[Taylor Lewan]

All I know is it's gonna be sick. We just have to find a date and we can do our thing there. I think that sounds fun.

[Will Compton]

Like a goal you look for for the spring when it's a little warmer. Oh, I. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Saturday was a joke, but clean take. That's A good clean tape.

[Will Compton]

A lot of activities to do here up. But we can't paintball. Why can't we paintball in the snow, boys? We're busy. We're busy out in the fields.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

For three to five days. Exactly.

[Taylor Lewan]

It's a good, clean take.

[Will Compton]

Thank you. And then there's the thawing process, where it starts to thaw, and then it melts down a little bit. But that night, it goes back to freezing. So the next day, you got a bunch of ice around. Black ice is everywhere.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's where you get the text from all your parents. Like my dad always says, be careful with the black ice. I got you, dad.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, don't worry.

[JP]

I'm not going anywhere.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

It's just like, they got to worry about that if it's not snowing outside.

[Taylor Lewan]

Great. Out for video gaming, too, when you got the snow days, man. Yeah. Opportunity.

[Will Compton]

You can do that. Do you do that every. Every day of the year?

[Taylor Lewan]

But it is. Hey, hey, hey.

[Will Compton]

That's another thing you can do every day of the year. Hey, that's a clean take. You guys could actually. I promise you can play video games every day of the year if you wanted to, regardless of the weather outside.

[Taylor Lewan]

So let's see if this is a clean take. Playing video games when the snow is outside. Hits different.

[Will Compton]

Great clean take. Great clean take. Guys are getting a little in the comments, but it's different. You guys are getting. You guys getting a little aggressive with the hits. Different comments.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

The thing is, though, like, for Will, like, what he's. What you're saying, like, say it's like a Thursday. Like, any day during the league. Wednesday, Thursday. And it's starting to snow. It's like, boys, you're on the game with the fellas. You think we're gonna have school tomorrow, bro?

[Will Compton]

You don't.

[Taylor Lewan]

When those combos are going down and you're in high school or you're in any. Any. Any grade school, whatever, stay up a little later.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yep.

[Will Compton]

I don't think kids have that anymore.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just gotta get it updated on your phone, on Twitter.

[Will Compton]

There's no anticipation, bro.

[Taylor Lewan]

When you're standing in front of the tv, just seeing the ticker go and then seeing your county pop up.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Nothing worse than seeing your county not.

[Taylor Lewan]

Get called or your rival school get called and you. Not yet.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Wait, hold on. Y'.

[Will Compton]

All.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Y' all go by. Y' all go by counties.

[Will Compton]

I think that's what. Yeah, ours were counties.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

We pa was like individual schools.

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[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. You'd see North St Francis County.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Did you all get a like. So you did your whole county?

[Taylor Lewan]

No, no, it'd be schools. It'd be by school.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Did you guys have like two hour delays and stuff or.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, we never had delays.

[Will Compton]

We'd be like coming at 10. It's like, man, this. I'm already up. I'm just going now, Wade, smoke some weed in the parking lot or something.

[Taylor Lewan]

This is gonna help.

[JP]

This will help Taylor's case of anti snow. But the best.

[Will Compton]

I have the best. I have the best case right now. The best. My case is a lot right now.

[Taylor Lewan]

The best thing, so many comments being like, oh come on.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I bet that's good. Tier ones doing their thing is when.

[Taylor Lewan]

It would snow and you'd get out of school and by like noon or one o' clock it's all melted. But you got the whole day. That was a great one of our boys, his dad's great.

[Will Compton]

Going to school, getting a good education in the sunshine. That's great, dude. Clean take. Caring about your education is so important.

[Taylor Lewan]

Proud of you.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Went to sleep. You know what is, you know, it's clean take not staying up late to watch the news to see if your snow snow day. It's getting a full eight hours. Okay, well your brain's developing.

[Taylor Lewan]

It's because you missed out on that as a child.

[Will Compton]

Missed out.

[Taylor Lewan]

He missed out on that in Arizona. One of our boys, his dad was a superintendent, so he'd be the one getting up and driving around to see if we'd have school or not. So we'd always be hitting them. Hey, what's your dad saying? Get him on the phone.

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[Taylor Lewan]

It. Was a good clean take.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, my, my clean take is that it's never too early for dinner. Brooke and I went to Sushi San, say 3pm well, we went at 4pm okay. It was the only reservation that they had available. All the guys said, bro, you didn't even have to do that. But when I got there, the place was popping. There was a good amount of people there. The place was really good. But I mean then you're done. Dinner 5:36. You could hit another spot later for dessert if you want.

[Taylor Lewan]

If you want to. Full belly. Can't lose a lot of the day left.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's a clean take. That's a clean take by Mitch, right?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

There's a lot more like, like you still have like the rest of your night. Like you can go home, chill for a little bit. Then it's like 8 o' clock. And like if you still want to go do something like.

[Taylor Lewan]

So, like, you can go do it.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think you get away plenty of time.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think you get away with that.

[JP]

4Pm dinner just because it gets dark a little early.

[Taylor Lewan]

But a 4pm dinner when it's nice.

[JP]

And warm out in the summer. You got two days left still.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah. Then you can go somewhere, get a drink.

[Will Compton]

I'm messing with everything Mitch is saying.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, I know. Across the board. All parents are on board with that clean tick right there.

[Will Compton]

There's not one parent that goes, rather be at 8. Like, it's. We eat dinner every night at 5 in the Luan household.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. 5pm you can get those reservations early. Go somewhere early. We had a six dinner, and I.

[JP]

Think that's a sweet spot.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Six, 6:34pm Start winding down around 7, brother. I liked my 5pm dinners.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

4Pm was kind of a vibe. Everybody was saying, like, you're. You're ridiculous. And like, I kind of with it.

[JP]

There's a lot.

[Will Compton]

Can we explain why it was ridiculous, though? Is it okay if I go through this?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I. I am. Because I am leaving out a mess.

[Will Compton]

Because Congratulations to Brooke. She just finally graduated. What is the PA School.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

She took her, like, board exam for pa so.

[Will Compton]

So Mitch on Wednesday, no free shout outs. He wanted to do something special for Brooke for this big milestone. So he's like, I'm gonna get a reservation. And he's asking about a restaurant called Craig's. And I'm thinking he's doing this in a week or two. What's up? And go ahead. Sorry. He was trying to get the reservation for the following day, so he only had 4pm or 9:30pm and so he chose that. And then he also forgot he had his flag football game the same day. So it kind of was a win.

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[Will Compton]

Eat dinner at 4, get a nice digestion, and then go play flag at 8. Did you play flagger? Because it rained that night.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Flag is indoors.

[Will Compton]

Gotcha. So indoor canceled.

[Taylor Lewan]

Pregame meal.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Pregame meals. I ended up not going to Craig's. Like. Like, yeah. Because she was like, we don't have to do that. But went to sushi. Sign got full. It's like, I'm a good fool right now. I know in two hours, I'll be like, everything will be digested. I'm ready to play flag. Ripped around. Play flag. Shout out. Jack Bibi. He came.

[Sponsor Announcer]

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[Jeffrey Simmons]

But, yeah, I did want to do, like, something special for Brooke, but then I was like, I have flag.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Garrett just asked, did Brooke make it?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Brooke did Not.

[Will Compton]

So what's ridiculous about this?

[Taylor Lewan]

It was supposed to be about Brooke.

[Will Compton]

And it was kind of so Mitch could play flag later on.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I wouldn't say it's about.

[Will Compton]

It's clean tech. That's clean.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That part's clean.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I think it's all clean. I think everything's clean here. I can understand where you're coming from. I love the idea of a four o' clock dinner. Almost called it lunch. And I also love the idea of them saying it's ridiculous that you chose fly football over your girlfriend. That's all good. So clean.

[JP]

Just hitting the restaurants now.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, getting them out.

[Will Compton]

You know what's awesome, dude? When you live in a place, you don't have to worry about the weather and all the sports are outside. That's a clean take.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I'm still able to play inside.

[Will Compton]

Huh?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I was still able to play inside.

[Will Compton]

Turf, man. Turf. Knees, hips, ankles. Come on now. Achilles power plants. Like there's a whole bunch to think about there. A whole bunch. That's clean take.

[Taylor Lewan]

Clean takes.

[Will Compton]

Just patting my uncle. That's a clean one. Big news for bus with the boys. Myself, Will Compton and Jeremy Klump will be at Sam Calm this week on Wednesday. Is it Wednesday? Thursday. We'll fly in Wednesday.

[Taylor Lewan]

Sam stands for Sales and marketing Communications meeting.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Clean take. Mad game.

[Taylor Lewan]

Correct answer.

[Will Compton]

That is going out there. We'll be on stage for a minute, have a little fun, get after it, and then it's Vegas.

[Taylor Lewan]

Rumor has it Post Malone will also be there. Gonna hang out with the boys. Open invite to Postie to hang out with the boys.

[Will Compton]

While we're there, Posty future beer Olympics.

[Taylor Lewan]

Competitor, teacher, friend of the show.

[Will Compton]

Wyatt Iverson.

[Taylor Lewan]

Love Wyatt Iverson.

[JP]

Congratulations.

[Will Compton]

Oh, the girl won. The girl dad won.

[Taylor Lewan]

Daughter.

[JP]

Yep.

[Taylor Lewan]

What is that one called?

[Will Compton]

Who knows?

[Taylor Lewan]

Something like that. Something like that.

[Will Compton]

Still haven't heard that song. Still haven't heard it.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It's hard to.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he does a couple of Sturgill Simpson remakes. I'm like, this guy's hidden right now. Come on, man. He's doing his thing out there. Cannot miss. That's a clean take. Post Malone cannot miss. Clean take. Clean take.

[Taylor Lewan]

A shout out. No free shout outs to new head coach in north county football. Wyatt. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Big time.

[JP]

Is the youngest coach in school history.

[Taylor Lewan]

He might be. I. I have no clue.

[Will Compton]

Spring tour stop.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, we might have to get it. Should we go check out Spring tour, Fall tour.

[Will Compton]

We gotta. We gotta get out there for a game.

[JP]

That would be epic.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Wyatt Compton.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I love how yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

New head coach is his first head coaching job.

[Will Compton]

Is he an offensive or defensive mind?

[Taylor Lewan]

He's an offensive mind.

[Will Compton]

Offensive mind.

[Taylor Lewan]

So taking on the model of the NFL. Yeah, I think he's got his quarterback.

[Will Compton]

Oh, he's doing a west coast offense type of thing.

[Taylor Lewan]

I have no clue.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Taylor Lewan]

Snow. He's an offensive guy. He's been the OC there for the past few years, but he's now taking over the reins. North county head.

[Will Compton]

What's that PPG he's been running with as the OC?

[Taylor Lewan]

It's a good question. Good question. I don't know.

[Will Compton]

37. And he also is the youngest in school history. Wow.

[Taylor Lewan]

Shout out to Banner.

[Will Compton]

One more. One more for the kids.

[Taylor Lewan]

We got to get the first state title this team's ever had.

[Will Compton]

Ever. They couldn't get it with Billy Bob Bompton.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, no, no. Farthest we got. We got to the quarterfinals, but no, tough.

[Will Compton]

You never sniffed.

[Taylor Lewan]

We didn't sniff it. We didn't sniff it, man. They went to the quarters of the semis a few years ago, but yeah, it's been like the farthest they've gotten. Well, no, that's a lie. In 97 they went to the state championship. It got dummied by Webb City.

[Will Compton]

Oh, 97. A good year. Who was the national championship in 1997? Will.

[Taylor Lewan]

In what sport?

[Will Compton]

College football.

[Taylor Lewan]

Michigan.

[Will Compton]

That's right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Michigan has Michigan. Wolverines national championship.

[Will Compton]

It's a good year. Got their schedule up for next year.

[Taylor Lewan]

It looks. That looks familiar. It's a familiar looking schedule.

[Will Compton]

Farmington.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, Farmington. That's the rival school.

[Will Compton]

Oh, you guys played them week one.

[Taylor Lewan]

DeSoto, Hillsborough, Festus, Windsor, St. Clair. St. Clair's who took us out the quarterfinals my freshman year? St. Genevieve.

[Will Compton]

Because 828 is that week zero. Is that week zero. I love to get. I love to get out to that rivalry game.

[Taylor Lewan]

That would be fun.

[Will Compton]

I love to get out to Bonaire. I love that Bonaire in that area. You got the French saint spelling and you got the English saint spelling. That's a. That's fun.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, fun.

[Will Compton]

Bonaire is also French.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yes. For good earth or good people. One of those. It's all the same, man.

[Will Compton]

It's all the same, but big.

[Taylor Lewan]

This is. This is lineage right here. This is bloodline. Grandfather went to North County. Well, he didn't go to North County. This is when the north county was split between the Bonter. What was it? The Bonter Bulldogs and the Deloje Tigers. North county forms, becomes a family in 1967. The great integration. So my dad, he was a North county boy. He bled for the blue and gold. Your boy, Willie C. Bled for the blue and gold, my brothers. Now, White's the head coach of the Blue and Gold, man.

[Will Compton]

Now, let me ask you this. When White gets the head coaching job, did he make a phone call to his older brother asking to be a.

[Taylor Lewan]

D.C. no, he didn't call. No.

[Will Compton]

He didn't even mention it in passing.

[Taylor Lewan]

He talked about the interview process, but no, no. Like me coming down to health going.

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What are you saying?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Is that below you?

[Taylor Lewan]

No, it's not below me. It's just going to be hard to pull me out of this world of podcast. No, I've been flirted. You know, there's.

[Will Compton]

Oh, there's been everybody in the comments going, oh, no, Willie, there's been a. You're not helping out your brother. Oh, no, man, come on. That's. That's beneath me. He said.

[Taylor Lewan]

I didn't say that.

[Will Compton]

You said it with the shoulders.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, I'm just saying it'd be hard to pull me into the coaching world with the gig we have going on, because I've been flirted a couple jobs in the football world to your boy.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Oh, is that true?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

There'S a. Let me ask you this. Does it stand for knowledge? Are they called, you know, lbs?

[Taylor Lewan]

Been conversations in the past. It's been conversations in the past.

[Will Compton]

God, it'd break my heart if you left.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Break mine.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Don't. Hey, don't do it. Not yet. Okay. Dude, did you give a clean take?

[Taylor Lewan]

Your clean take?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Well, yeah, Will's clean take.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think I gave a couple clean takes. The video game one and the snow day one.

[Will Compton]

Who said. Who had the super intake that everybody was all about? I. I think that was a good take.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's a good clean take.

[Will Compton]

Different. That's a clean take on the snow days. Are we. Everybody else give a good take? Clean take. I got one. Oh, what's your clean tape?

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, my wife and I may have cracked a code of parenting for going.

[Will Compton]

Out to eat with your children. I'm all ears. Breakfast over dinner is the way. For some reason, we're like four in a row of just going out. No problems at all. Kids are hungry.

[Taylor Lewan]

They eat easy breakfast food in and out. So we get to go have fun.

[Will Compton]

Dinner's always tough.

[Taylor Lewan]

You don't know what the.

[Will Compton]

The menu's like, what the Mac and.

[Taylor Lewan]

Cheese is like, if it's the one that JJ likes or the one he doesn't like. Yeah, go get A pancake.

[Will Compton]

That guy will throw down some pancakes.

[Taylor Lewan]

So.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Breakfast is a.

[Taylor Lewan]

A clutch move as a parent to.

[Will Compton]

Go out to eat with the kids.

[Taylor Lewan]

So clean take.

[Will Compton]

That's a clean take. I like that take.

[Taylor Lewan]

Clean take. Should we get into Jeff Sims, Jeffrey Simmons, not the old quarterback for Nebraska.

[Will Compton]

And of course, a big thank you, too.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Listen, everybody, hearing all these clean takes, whether you're driving with them, whether you're not, all these clean takes come to us. Big thanks to Kevin's natural foods. Clean takes for all of our clean takes today. Thank you.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Will Compton]

Great job. I love dramatic pause.

[Taylor Lewan]

Dramatic pause. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Do you. What's that?

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, shout out for.

[Will Compton]

Shout out.

[Taylor Lewan]

I did. I. I just shouted out Wyatt. And then we did a shout out. No, free shout out for. For Brooke.

[Will Compton]

Go ahead, Mini.

[JP]

Fast shout out. No free shout out. Somebody may have said this. Jack might have said this before, but when you land and you have a connecting flight, you get off the plane and. And you're still. Your next flight is at the same exact gate. So you have. You don't have to go anywhere for it. You just hop on, go to the bathroom real quick, sit down for 10, 15 minutes, get right back on that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Good shout out.

[Will Compton]

That is a good one.

[JP]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Will Compton]

Nice.

[Taylor Lewan]

Nice.

[JP]

Happened to me in Denver last yesterday, actually, so. So nice.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Shout out. No free shout out. 90s parenting. When you look at the kids and you're like, go outside and like, what are we gonna do? It's like, figure it out. You got to be out there. Go out there and have fun. Just really tricks them into complex thinking. Hey, how am I get rid of this boredom? No one's coming to save me. They go out there, they have a lot of fun. I enjoy just sending my kids outside and being like, I'll see you when I see you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, get the belt.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[JP]

It's the first.

[Taylor Lewan]

The first.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. Shut up. Beating your kids up.

[JP]

The first gen switch.

[Will Compton]

The first gen switch. Yeah, My kids. I. That was when we. I told them because we were having a conversation about consequences, and it was like, you know, you get this. And like, what happened when you were a kid? Dad, I was like, the belt. The little. The little stick. That's not as. It has to be thinner than your thumb getting the switch. All those things and their faces when I was telling them, like, this is how consequences used to happen back in the day. You have no idea how good you have it, do you? No idea. Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

What was the stick thing with the thumb to switch.

[Will Compton]

So it has to be like less than the width of your thumb. You have to find a stick out there and they let you know who's who in the zoo.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Wooden spooners. Oh, yeah. You know, you find out, you find.

[Will Compton]

Out, you find out.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

These kids, I look at them the wrong way and they're like, oh, oh, dad, is soap on the tongue? Is that still fair game? Washing the mouth vinegar, the whole.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That was definitely a thing.

[Will Compton]

That's so cool.

[JP]

Now it's emf. Emf, exposure, punishment.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hand on the back of the neck. Just aggressively drug all over the house. We have a great question here. Tear talk with Martin Kenny. When you order. Guys, listen into this one. Now, when you order a salad, do you prefer thin sliced cucumbers or a thicker slice? Peel on or off? For me, sliced size doesn't matter. However, if it is thin slice, leave the peel on. If thick though, it better be bald. That peel will overwhelm the whole cucumber in the salad. I. I don't mind cucumbers.

[Will Compton]

That's an overthought, take over, overanalyzing take. Here's how I like my cucumbers on the salad.

[Taylor Lewan]

I like a thicker slice because I enjoy cucumbers.

[Will Compton]

I like the crunch. You gotta have the crunch. Add the texture to your salad. Skin on, skin off. I feel like when you're asking for skin off cucumber, it's like, what are we asking for?

[Taylor Lewan]

Didn't even know that was a, like an option, I guess. Yeah, I guess you could peel it.

[Will Compton]

Off, but that's crazy to me.

[Taylor Lewan]

Never my life. Right?

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[Taylor Lewan]

Can you take the skin off the cucumber?

[Will Compton]

That Greek salad? Please. But can you do the cucumbers and just peel off the. The skin of it?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[JP]

This guy. All right, go back.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You know, this guy had the least clean take I've ever heard in my life. Asking for these cucumbers. That's crazy. So, yeah, I love. Just to preface this one, I just.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Love that this fan is so passionate.

[Will Compton]

That he put this on a football shows tear talk of something that we would talk about. I was like, I got to put it on there. Here's another one by devs fan82. The New Jersey Devils will never win another cup as long as Harris and Blitzer own the team and Tom Fitzgerald is the gm.

[Taylor Lewan]

I agree with that same.

[Will Compton]

I've thought about these guys for a minute. I've thought to myself, they'll never win, they'll never make the playoffs.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

With those three preds are looking good though.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I like that. They're only three games back, I believe. Or two games back.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, I agree. New Jersey Devils, far from a cup.

[Will Compton]

Sacrilege if you really think about it.

[Taylor Lewan]

As long as Harrison Blitzer on the team and Tom Fitzgerald's the gm.

[Will Compton]

Tom Fitzgerald. I've always had a seat for those guys. Unless the ownership wants to go to the playoffs and win a cup. Yeah, a hot seat for sure for Tom. I would say that's a no brainer. But as far as like ownership, it's a little different in hockey, you know.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, the jury's out, man.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, right. You have to be seen. You have to be seen.

[Taylor Lewan]

That concludes our NHL talk. Jerry's out.

[Will Compton]

Also, Arizona is a hotbed for NHL players. We have any more to talk about. Good on tear talk. Good on tear talk.

[Taylor Lewan]

Good on tear talk.

[Will Compton]

We feel good about. Let's see, we get a big Jeff Simmons on the pod. All pro year.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

First team all pro.

[Will Compton]

Maybe the most dominating football player I've watched this entire year. Come on. Dominating. Clean take. Very good clean take. That is a clean take. About to get a bag and a half. Maybe two.

[Taylor Lewan]

Maybe a gold chain.

[Will Compton]

Maybe a gold chain. Stay tuned. Apparently I promised him a gold chain that I forget about.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah, we'll dive into it and.

[Will Compton]

Whatever he says, I'll probably just agree with it. I really don't. Remember, remember, remember, big dog, you said, this is it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, dude. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes, Mr. Big Jeff. Let's dive in my pre weight.

[Taylor Lewan]

Big hugs, tiny kisses.

[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

And gentlemen, welcome to another wonderful interview of Bustin with the boys. We have a a legendary Titans guest with us today. Drafted had an ACL situation training training for for for the for the NFL Draft. Four time Pro Bowler 2025 comes in this year. No belly, no nothing. Just A whole. Just a ball of muscle gets his first All Pro. Big round of applause for Jeffrey Simmons.

[Taylor Lewan]

Back first All Pro. Congrats, man.

[Will Compton]

Appreciate it, dude. Because you, you've obviously, you've been extremely dominant when you came in. So let me just give you guys, all the viewers, the view of how Jeffrey Simmons is in the building when he first got there. There, guys. Got an ACL, gets drafted 18 overall. 19, 19 overall. Comes in the building. Can't do OTAs, can't do rookie mini camp. Can't do camp. But you're in there and everyone's kind of getting their jaw sets in the training room. You know how it is. And this guy, this cat who like can't play yet, is just talking shit to everybody. He's just like, you trash you. I'm gonna be your ass. I'm thinking, this. Who the is this guy? And then Chargers game, he plays, gets his first sack in the Chargers game. You're like, oh, yo, this. This Jeff Simmons cat's got a little bit of ass to.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

To him.

[Will Compton]

He's got a little something going on. Fast forward to four Pro Bowls, your first All Pro. And it feels like to me, because you've had an incredible level of dominance, especially this year. Is there a piece of you that thinks to yourself, like, man, if I was on a team with a higher. That had a higher medium market, not taking anything away from the Titans at all. But if you play for like the packers, the Cowboys, the Eagles, these teams, the Steelers, are there multiple all Pros in your bag right now?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think so. But I also think it just the consistency, you know, throughout my career, it's like, you know, some games especially, you know, things I can't control, like injuries, you know, from the elbows to the meniscus to ankles. Like, of course I had a couple injuries here and there to where I missed a couple games, but it didn't take away from when I'm out there, my present been felt. So I would say maybe that would play a big part of it. You know, I have always thought of. Thought of that especially later in my career now to where it's like, bro, we. And then not just me, it's like guys around like on the team. I mean, you, you've been here, you been in Tennessee, especially your career. You know, the type of market we in, you know, the attention that we don't get here because it's been like this past year, I would, I feel like, like Cedric great. I mean, he's. Before he went out with the concussion, like he was second in the lead and tackle. You know, I feel like guys like that had got no attention, especially this past season because of the market we was in. But on top of. We didn't win a football game. So we could say the market, but man, we haven't won no football games.

[Will Compton]

Winning solves everything, I think.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Winning solve everything.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. What do you feel like has happened over these last couple years? Because you, you, you. You came from the. You were drafted, you've been around Braves, you were around that culture. He's now in New England. You're watching him kind of them do their thing out there. A lot of optimism when Callahan came in. You get Cam Ward this past year, but what do you feel like's been different from going from variable through Callahan to now you're looking at getting another head coach.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Trying to say his best white cat. So without like. Because I, I don't mean we learned with Vrabel not to compare. So I think. But when you could. When you look at it from a player standpoint, it's like what is really our identity? You know, I feel like as a team, you know, and that was something that I was trying to help find. We. I really feel like we really didn't have. I mean, because later in the season we started running the football. It's like, damn, why we couldn't do this early in the season. I feel like that should have been our identity to start off with, to help a young quarterback, which is no knock on the coaches or whatever. But I feel like going forward we have to. I mean, it all start with the foundation. It's all start with the. When you lay just like building a house, if your foundation not there and not good, you out of shitty house. So I feel like when we first. When Callahan first got in and it's no knock to Cali. Cali is a great guy. He was a great coach. You know, he. I don't think it was just the time for that because, you know, going from Vray, but I knew. We all knew what it looked like. The guys who've been there, me hook. Like we knew what it looked like to not let things slip. I feel like in the past, like, you know, first maybe the year or so when we got the coaching chain going through the coaching change and I mean, you guys saw the roster. I mean, we got. Got what, maybe six or seven rookies playing at one time at one point of the season. So it's like when you have such a young team, what. What can you really fall back on What, What. Who are the Tennessee Titans and what do we really stand for? And I guess that that's. We didn't have that. It's like we knew what Raybo expected. And I was telling guys, like the first day of meetings, and I remember lta's. I was there because I had to got my ankle cleaned up. And I get there and I see guys running around looking for notebooks and pencils. Very. But first I. Right. The last year he was here, and I guess it was the message that everyone was getting in the locker room. I'm talking about new guys, everybody coming in there with notebooks and pencils. I remember him saying, guys, what do you got? What do you got ready to write down? I'm not gonna talk about nothing right now. And that's what, you know, we knew what Variable expected, and we knew do what he wanted out of the team. Like, God, the message was in the locker room. And it's like this past year and last year, it's just like, we didn't have that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Because with Braves, it's. The vets are just letting the young guys know. You better be like, I'm ready, right? Because he's going to ask something and you're going to be on the spot, and you better have something.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You better be ready.

[Taylor Lewan]

You better be ready to go.

[Will Compton]

Any rookie worth their salt is like, reaching out to a vet. Be like, what should I expect going into these ot?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Me, I'm training in Dallas, and matter of fact, I'm at the Pro bowl last year, I'm at the Pro Bowl, I'm talking to Dre May. He's like, what about Vrayl? What you think about Variable? What should I expect? Like, these guys asking this. Like, this last year when I'm out there in Dallas training, they got a. I think he played more special team, but he was like, bro, everything you told me about Vraybo, you wasn't lying. Like, he asked hella question. Isaiah Iden, he was here and he was like, bro. He texted me. He was like, bro, you wasn't lying. Like, you know, everything you saying about Variable is true. Like, guys, be on alert in team meetings. He asking, guys, he said, I'm not even playing. He asks me questions.

[Will Compton]

Right?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So there's been things like that to where, you know, I'm not saying a coach have to do that, but it's also just that feeling in the building to where, yeah, we gonna have fun, but we gonna know how to do things before we even touch the football field. Because, I mean, we all could say it. Like, we could say you. The little things sometimes don't matter and whatever, but I, I feel like the things that happen off the football field in the mean room, it lead them to the football field.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because now you've seen it play out too.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. Seen it play out. And then this year we went to the Patriots camp and Will and I are walking around like, okay, like, this is Rape's first year. They went 4 and 12 last year. You look at the roster as a whole and there's not like a bunch of names that you know and you're like, they'll probably like double their win total. Probably like an eight team.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

They'll have cultural wins here and there's. And then you see the turn on that they have and you're just like, oh, that is clearly the coach having everybody understand every situation and they just run it. Dude. The thing that frustrated me the most watching you guys, as opposed to when Vrabel was there, was the time management.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

The situation of football. Dude, don't worry about it.

[Will Compton]

This is, this is a safe space. We know Callahan's a good guy. He's a friend of the show. Like I'm, I'm a fan of him as a person.

[Taylor Lewan]

Absolutely.

[Will Compton]

But from a coaching standpoint, he had so many blind spots where you kind of see when you're around Braves enough, you see like, okay, he's got people in his left and right pocket during games. Stretch being one of them. That is feeding them all him, all the information that he knows. Like, it takes so much for a coach to sit there and identify every situation with the, with the play clock going on, with the time, with your timeouts. Was that a catch? Was it not a catch? Do I need to throw a red flag out here? And Ray would have the right people to be upstairs saying those things. And it just seemed like Callahan was kind of just a first time head coach that was like not. He was taking it all himself.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. If Ray boys did a good job of like teaching like the Friday tape, like coaching technique. There's a play over the weekend against the Texans where I see, I think it was Gonzalez, the db. He just shoots. He shoots his hand to get a pbu and I'm beautiful.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And everybody who's played for Brave or I'm sitting there watching, I'm like, that is literally. That'll be on the Friday tape next week. Right on something that was done well.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Taking the coaching to, to the full football field.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's well coached, bro. I mean, I didn't. We. We all like the Friday tape, bro. Like, it blew my mind. Like, and I. Like I said, it's not. It's not a knock to Callahan and the coaches, but to. It blew my mind because I came from vra. Like, I was with VRA five years. But to see. And he did a hell of a job. But to see Bones do the Friday tape tape and go over a couple situations, that was surprising. And I know Bones could be a freaking head coach, and I'm talking about special team coach. I'm sure he, like, Bone got the quality. He's got the. The way he. The way he connect with players, the way he get guys to play hard on special team. He could. In my opinion, he could be a head coach. But to see him doing the Friday tape, it was like, what the hell, right? You know, why is maybe not the head coach doing it it? Or why is, you know, someone else that could ball not he over special team? Like, I'm not expecting our special team coordinator to do the Friday tape.

[Taylor Lewan]

You'd be surprised, too. It's not. It's not like every. Any. Every head coach I play for, like, it's Raves had. Has had this certain style about him that's been different from all the other head coach.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And I'm not saying it was a bad thing, which I can say Bone did a hell of a job of know, like, giving us a couple situations. But it's like, you know, I feel like because our team was so young and like, we look. We talking about, okay, let's go to the offensive side or defense side and play defense. We're talking about a certain situation in the game. Do Bones really have the full attention of our young DBs? That's my thing. Like, you know, I'm not saying. Like I said for me, like, I'm. I'm locked. I'm sitting in the front row. I see never change. I'm sitting in the front row. I'm listening to Bones. Like, I'm locked in to the situation. But also, do you got the guys in the back who's a rookie that we've depending on right now? Are he really locked into this situation? They. I mean, do. Are we gonna quiz these guys or are you gonna ask them what's rabies? What situation is this? He used to point call guys, what situation is this?

[Taylor Lewan]

But you as a D line, like.

[Will Compton]

I hope, like, there'd be. He pulls something on the screen, and everybody would stare at the screen like, what situation is this? Because if he calls me. I don't want to look dumb in front of everybody else.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And that's the thing though, bro.

[Taylor Lewan]

You'd have to keys for offense. You'd be a D lineman. Big Jeff, what are the offensive team keys?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You can ask.

[Will Compton]

He would never ask Big Jeff that.

[Taylor Lewan]

I bet he did when he was like his first year rookie asked me.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

He was to me in my rookie year. But I was bro. To this day money hookers sit beside me. To this day I still take down when the special team coordinator up there giving the keys defense and offense. And I've been doing that since very. Because I. I guess I'm scarred. Like I need to. I want to know every like and then also just come with being a. I guess the vet. I am like I want to know everybody keys so I can look at these things. Maybe come up in the game where I could be like they go to red dot player. This the guy we supposed been taking care of. We not taken care of him. So I just.

[Taylor Lewan]

As a leader, you're able to speak on that. If you do check somebody that's kind of like out of your. Whether it is special teams or out of your position and then you're coming kind of correct or with. Hey, I listen to the same stuff you do. And I don't even need to know this stuff.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's. That's why. That's the reason why I do it too. I want. Because I mean I get guys like a couple guys especially young guys like can I see your notes right quick? What did you write down? And then like they see me writing down all because it's at the top all three phases of the keys. And then now like I. I take hella notes. I mean I'm not. I'm not the guy when it come down to film because you know, I get. Guys ask me what type of. How much film I watch watch after Wednesday it's really cut off. Like Monday through Wednesday I watch Hell of Tape because of course Wednesdays, Wednesday nights is third down. Let me look at third down. I mean I'm not gonna go watch and see how this guy blocking me. Like how is he an outside hand puncher? Yes, I see that. But every time I get into a damn game, I'm getting a slide, I'm getting trapped, trap pass. I'm getting all these different blocks. So it's like I'm not. Not crazy over watching tape. But when I take my notes, especially getting all the information throughout the week, it's a lot of notes.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

What Was Callahan's operation. So just so people that are listening, like Vrabel, Monday we'd all watch and correct the film. Wednesday he'd come in with a. With the keys. Keys to victory. From an offensive defense and special team standpoint, he would hammer everybody. That when he came in Thursday, it was basically, we're doing a pop quiz on everything we know over. Wednesday you do third down on Thursday, Friday's red zone. And the whole time, yeah, two minute. The whole time he's peppering you on the keys to win the game. The entire time. From Callahan's Monday to the game the night before. Like, what was his process of how he got you guys ready?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I'm just saying almost the same thing. Monday, you know, of course, come in, have the team meeting and then you go and break it up into. Of course, I'm not going to say too much two minute. And it wasn't that, like, I feel like what I was the only. The guy who really did all that was Denard. Then we'll get to the defensive side. But Denard, I mean, Callahan were more of like, you know, this is why we lost a game. And same thing we kind of. With McCoy, it was kind of the same operation. Like, this is how we lost the game. Showed a couple plays, sometimes we didn't show no plays. I don't think it was a time that we walked into a raid where he didn't show no plays. You know, sometimes they show played, sometimes they didn't be walking in like, oh, yeah, like, man, whatever bad play you.

[Will Compton]

Had, that thing's popping up.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like, hopefully I don't be on this tape for loafing or something.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But Tuesday, normally off day. Then, you know, Wednesday is the same thing. You come in and get the keys. It's not an everyday thing to where in the past VRA did it his way. He gave all the keys for everybody. Every phase. Maybe our D line coach come get a defensive keys. Maybe a different receiver, our receiver coach come get offensive keys. Bones and Stu, which is Stu is the, you know, assistant special team coach. Maybe he'd do the keys one day. And that's how I was with the keys. Like, no one, the head coach didn't do it every single time. Every coach gave different. And then the rest of the week, pretty much the same thing. I mean, I was wanted two minutes more than what we did it. You know, two minute wasn't a big thing that we did. I mean, which we. Which we didn't really get to two minutes. Like a lot this Past season, but I still feel like in the situation, like, situation football, I feel like it's very needed doing practice, no matter when you do it. I think Callahan did, you know, when we. We had our captain meeting and we kind of talked about it a little bit, and I was one of the guys said, I think we should do two minutes. You know, we started doing it, and then it was kind of. I think during training camp, we started doing it a little bit. And then later in the. More early in the season, right before he got fired, that's when I think we kind of started to pull back. We'll do it one week and not do it next week. And I think maybe it's go to some guys saying their body may be a little, you know, tired or still sore because we didn't do it on Fridays. You know, we tried to do it on Fridays, but I guess they didn't like how practice lasted a little longer. So that was a decision. They kind of took out. It took out the two minutes, but the week stayed the same. I mean, the night before the games, we. I mean, y' all saw like, the Primo videos, and I think that all that was cool because especially when you knew the type of message that was trying to get across, you know, some of them was like, okay, you know, let me figure this out. Like, how. Like, what is the message? But when you got guys like Primo, that story, I'm sure y'.

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[Jeffrey Simmons]

I don't know if y' all saw it or not to where basically it was just a teamwork that if one person off flying the jet, they was flying, the whole thing screwed up. And I end up getting that message pretty it fast because I'm like, all right, it makes sense. We all need to pull together and do this together. But outside of that, bro, is we didn't do the. You know how we used to be. Had to be at the stadium and meet in our rooms. We didn't do that. Yeah, everybody just had to be in the stadium at a certain time. But never. Never just got together right before the game.

[Will Compton]

When you guys are. The season is going the way it is, you just had a little juice at the end of the year. But, like, when you're in the middle, like, late October, and you're like, man, once again, like, this is another season. We're not making the playoffs. And you peer over in the AFC east and you see Vrabel and the Patriots doing what they're doing, like you and Hook and whoever else has been around Variable. I don't even know if there's anybody else in that team. Are you guys kind of like, man, look at this. And what he's doing with this squad.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean, it's. That's the nature. That's nature. That's the nature.

[Taylor Lewan]

Of.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, I didn't do that because that's. That's. Yeah, yeah, I did, man. We talked about it in the locker room, guys. Arden Key been around him. You know, Morgan. These guys was in the locker room. Of course, Morgan not gonna come over and say it, but you know, guys that gonna speak their mind, like, damn, like, what if. Yeah, like, what if we could be in this situation right now? But there's also, like, I say, I mean, props are variable. You know, when you talking to guys that play for the Patriots and. And you see the interviews, you watching them play, like, you know, I mean. I mean, they got every coach that was pretty much was in Tennessee. When you turn on the games, you look on the sideline. I got pretty much everybody over there. And then when you. When you watching them play, you're like, that's variable. Style of the way he get his guy to play. And I think that's. That's a testament to him. And to get guys like. I mean, we saw all the crazy stuff about Stephon Diggs in the past. Oh, he's a diva. He this and that. Not one time have we heard that in New England.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he's just putting licking emojis on Instagram.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's just having fun once he's off the field.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I'm with you, bro, but I'm just.

[Taylor Lewan]

Saying, you haven't seen this style that we've understood Stefan Diggs to be. You see him as a guy who is clearly, like, all the way bought into everything playing football.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, that's my point. I know. I'm just like. And I never said that to nobody. Like, Like. But today I'm like, no one. We always see the when guys on the other, like I said with Stefan. But when you turn on that, the game I keep want to say tape. When you turn on the TV and see these guys play, it's like, damn, just what if, you know, it's not one of the things where. No, I do not want to go to New England.

[Will Compton]

Like, they can have Paul Kaharshi's licking his chops.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, I do not want to go to. Yeah, I guarantee he ready to tweet that. But, you know, I'm not saying I want to go to New England, but it's fun to see. See because that's where I know. Like, I know the type of style he played. And that's what, you know, it's exciting to see. Like, it ain't no hate against them.

[Taylor Lewan]

When did you know that you guys were gonna. When did you start to feel that we're about to have another one of these years? Obviously, Cali got fired early, but how early in the season were you? Like, honestly, it flipped on its head.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I feel like once we. Once we end up going like. Like, I think it was, like, at a point, it was after the. The Raiders game, because I'm like, that's no way. We just lost to this. This team. Like, we shouldn't never lost this game. And it's just like.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because that's a tough loss.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like, even the Arizona game, I'm like, what are we doing? Like, don't get me wrong. Like, teams got good. And it's not. Like, when we look at our roster, maybe our roster not better, but when you turn on the tape and you watching these teams, you're like, we should not lose to this team. Arizona and the Raiders, them early games. I'm like, we should not lose to these teams. So I'm watching it, and I'm doing. Doing the Arizona game. I'm like, what are we doing? And everybody, you know, don't get me wrong, I was happy as hell we won that game, but when you go turn on that tape, he was like, what do we.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, it shouldn't even been close.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like, road. And then it's just like. Like, just imagine because, I mean, the guy running out broke the big run. And because we. I'm. No, I'm talking about for us as defense. Like, we. I'm watching this. I'm like, bro, we are playing like, shit. Yes, we made a couple of good plays in that game, but the stuff that we are doing is just uncharacteristic of our defense. The big run. Like, see that big split in our defense, and you see this running back running 80 yard down the field and just so happened. Fumbled a football in end zone. It's not like we did something magic. He fumbled the football.

[Will Compton]

He fucked up.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

They called an interception and fumbled a football. And we recovered in end zone. So it's like things like that to, like, man, I'm like, this is the type of season we about to have. And then when we went to Vegas and lost to Vegas, I'm like, all right.

[Will Compton]

You knew it was over.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I'm like, all right, Jeff, let's just play your best ball. Yeah, like, whatever. You do is your family or resume. Go out there and play as hard as you can and try to keep this team together. Because I mean we felt it and.

[Will Compton]

People are so critical about like, hey, these athletes are making so much money. They should be feel fine whether you're winning or losing. But there is something to be said about when you're halfway through the season. You can't see the start and definitely can't see the end, but you know it's over, over. Like, you understand that we're not a team that's going to be able to compete. Don't want to. It takes to be like, I have to figure out some sort of why to get this done. Especially when it's a cat like you who first three years you're in the playoffs, you're making deep runs in the playoffs, you're the 1 seed in the playoffs. Going from that to not making the.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Playoffs at all that hard. I don't know why people, I mean, of course they on the outside looking at it, it's like, oh, just Ludy's game. Get us some draft field to get us Hob Jack. Like, bro, I don't want to hear this right now. Like, I don't care about draft pick. I want to win football game. But then you get out there and you just like, what, bro? Then you get in, then you come back and watch tape though. And you was like, only if we do our job. Yeah, because you come. We come in a defensive meeting room, bro. It's a lot of games. Yes. You know, I try not to worry about the offense. Yes, we were struggling early in the season. They started figuring out. But when you come in, you hear Denard talking and he's showing 25 clips, the explosive plays, and you see guys making up shit in our defense and if they would just do their job and. Well, I'm saying not. Not Dave, because it's been some plays where he pointed me out, but we just did our job in them games. Who knows how our season went, bro. And that's the honest truth. Like when you. When we went in there in our defensive meeting and the north show showed us the plays that they scored on, it just guys just missed tackles, guys not doing their job.

[Taylor Lewan]

What's the. What's like the player culture like as the season's unfolding? Because again, I know we keep going back to the. The comparison of the culture of variable and the culture of this. But you're also in a spot too to where where you. You came in there was good vets Here you became a leader in your own right. You are now, like, the leader for the Titans or one of them anyway. And when stuff like this is happening, what. What is it like, like, around the player culture, like, do you get in spots where you might say something every now and then, but maybe the cracks were in the foundation before that to where there's really no saving what's going on or getting guys heads wrapped around how serious this is or, like, what was the feeling throughout the season, like, when these moments were happening? Is it more just like you're kind of sitting and be like, I'm just gonna feel these guys. You're not. You're not, like, wanting to say, these guys don't care. They might not get it, but I'm just gonna put my head down and work.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, it wasn't a time that I wasn't quiet. I mean, that I wasn't talking. I should say Laws, you know, lost a lot. So, of course I was trying to talk. But even after the wins, like the one we lost, the one we end up winning, I forgot what game it was. And, you know, I think it was the Cleveland game. And at the moment, you know, Ken Ward was kind of pissed. You know, I'm sure y' all saw that. Like, he was like, you know, wasn't good enough.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, yeah. Like, when he was.

[Will Compton]

He was getting criticism. Shador had a great game.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And I understand. I understood it later because when you turn on the tape, he didn't play the way he wanted to play. And as a team, another game to where they got good players. Miles Garrett, but we eliminated him that game. We should have did way more in the game, in his opinion. But the same thing early in the season to where. And let's go back to when you turn on the tape, guys just not doing their job. And so when I. When I speak and when I was speaking to the team, it wasn't trying to attack guys. And I think that's what the hardest part about. About leading. You guys been in the locker room. I think the hardest part about leading is how can I get through certain guys? Because I know if I say certain things to. If I say certain things, this guy gonna think I'm talking about him directly. And he gonna try to feel, I guess, like he gonna. Emotionally.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And that was the hardest part for me, especially last two years. Like, of course, this year was way better. But like, even last year, year, Cali first year and everything, because his way, like, the way Khaled wanted to lead and the way he he was leading. It wasn't so much of like, I'm gonna be hard on your ass. Like, like this. This is like for real, like, you know, the, the hard truth sometime, I think, right. And I think we was trying to.

[Taylor Lewan]

Build on good moments. And hey, you see. Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It's like no, hell no. I mean. And I remember and me and my. I'm sure. Sure McCord. Don't mind me sharing this. Like, you know, it was one game. We. We ended up losing the. The game. And I was pissed. The comments that was in the locker room a little bit. And I. Because I think yes, TP was having like a rough year. And you know, I think he ended up breaking. You know, he had a good game to where I mean we had. I wouldn't even say a good game. I don't think we had 100 rushing yards.

[Will Compton]

But TP is Tony Pollard.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they would. And it was one of them games to where they was kind of congratulating some guys in the locker room. I'm like, like what the fuck are we talking about? Like, we just got beat and we didn't have over 100 rushing yards, but we congratulating certain guys and o line, what do we do? We didn't have 100 rushing yards, but we okay with okay things. We not okay with great and like the good.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Then the next week we come back and rush for almost 200 yards hard or whatever it may be. That's what you're supposed to congratulate. I feel like when you. When you the standards is here, then the guys around gonna be okay with that. And for me it was more, how can I not let guys be comfortable? How can I not let guys be okay with being okay? Because I want to win football games and just being okay. You won't win football games in the league. Everything gotta be. Be up here. Like the standard's got to be high. You got to hold your. Yourself to a higher standard. And I feel like that's what. That was my thing as a leader. Because yeah, I was. I was. At some points it was just like, all right, I can't say certain things, but at some point it's just like I'm tired of being a nice guy. I'm tired of saying certain things that guys want to hear because the, the, the. The hard truth is sometimes the best thing to say. We grown man. If you take. Take things personal in the locker room, then I don't know what to tell you. Like this, this is a grown man sport.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like I said, sometimes you got to know how to lead and. And get to certain guys. But, I mean, when y' all came in and lead, y' all vets didn't talk to y' all nice. I'm sure, like, everybody would talk that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Uncle Hatch, like, oh, he kept it real.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like, you gotta. You gotta know how to do it. But it's also one of the things to where, like I said, I. I was asking for advice. I was. I'm calling my uncle. I'm calling guys that he played with DeMarcus, where, like, I'm asking him, how can I get, you know, do certain guys. How can I talk to these guys to.

[Taylor Lewan]

How can I get the message?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, and he, of course, like, I got some great points from him and. And it helped me a lot as a leader this past year or so. And. But to. I think that was a long answer. To answer your question, the locker room itself never split. We had moments. We had moments to where maybe I did say something and offensive alignment may got mad. Or maybe I did say something that, you know, somebody on the back end didn't like at the time. But I. I would say as a locker room, we never kind of start splitting.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

As the. Maybe the media maybe said something like, oh, let's see if they're gonna lose the locker room. Because I. I'm big. I'm a big believer. Leadership is from within. We can keep this locker room together. Guys could keep the locker room together no matter what's. What we're going through in the season. We could. That's the reason why, you know, we doing things out throughout the season. Let's have a Halloween something.

[Will Compton]

Let's.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Let's do something right here. Let's make sure, like, after the season, you know, I wanted to do something for the whole team. I invited the whole team, did like a private party just for the team. Like, y' all understand that, you know, yeah, this was a hard season, but we stood. We stood together, we stuck together, and we made it through. Even though it wasn't a good season, we made it through.

[Will Compton]

So that's one of the hard things about being, I'm assuming, a head coach that comes in a little lighter footed than Vrabel was. Because what Vrabel was able to do in, like, 2018, when he first came in, there was a lot of criticism on, like, yo, he is an asshole. This guy is difficult to be around. But as success started to happen, he would let off the reins a little bit and allow guys to be who they are. So when that. That standard you had ever wavered, Vrabel could easily go back to this and it's like, well, that's the variable. We understand what his standard is because he's shown the hard part earlier. Yeah, we can get right back to that. From Callahan's. It sounds like Callan came in a little lighter, happy to be around look good of us. Kumbaya. Hey, look at all the good things we did, even though we lost. And then when it really comes crunch time, it's like we're spiraling. If he went and was hard on the guys, all of a sudden, that's when you lose a locker room completely. So it's almost better to be extremely critical of your players, break them down foundationally, build them back up, and then be able to be their friends.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think that is called being a coach. Like I said, it's no knock. Like, I.

[Will Compton]

We're not knocking Callahan.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I love Callahan. Like, I text Callahan, like right now. Like, you know, he respond. But. But it just. When you talking about the NFL, we saw it this morning with the. With Buffalo. With Buffalo. Like, I'm sure that guy's a great leader. I'm sure he's hard as hell on the players. He love his players. But this league is about winning. Like, you don't win football games. You don't get the teams to where they need to be in the amount of time you're gone. So. So to the nice. Being nice is not the way this thing's gonna work. You have to set your foundation. You have to have a strong set foundation.

[Will Compton]

What was. What was Callahan's demeanor early this year? Like, before the firing? Did it. Did you see the change coming? You're like, oh, he kind of knows. Or was it the same guy?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Nah, I was that one thing Khaled didn't do. He didn't from the. The game we lost to the. I think think because he was still there when we won against Arizona. Like, up until that point, you didn't feel nothing. Like, I didn't. I was surprised. I didn't know they was going to make that move. I mean, you kept like, of course been on social media, you see certain things and you read it and all the tweets, this and that. But week six, like, I didn't expect. I met my daughter gymnastic. Like, I met gymnastic. And I get a phone call to, you know, talking about this, and I'm like, what the hell? Like, this really just happened. And I'm like, wow. But like I said, I didn't I didn't expect that to happen that early, you know, even if I. Because I didn't know it was gonna happen, I should say, but I didn't sure didn't expect it to happen that early.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, but what was it like with the transition with Coach McCoy, him stepping in a lot?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean, it was. McCoy did change some things up the. I mean, I'm sure you guys saw with the. The practice tempo guys been. The guys were talking about throughout the season. He did want the tempo. You know, how. You know, his. I remember when he first came into the captain me and he was like, one big thing I want to change is, you know, when. Especially when you guys on defense and the scout team break the huddle. You got receivers breaking the huddle before the whole huddle. Like, he was like, that's one big thing. He, like, we cutting that out. Like, you know, he was like, I want things to be ran. I want tempo of practice to get up. And, you know, the way he, you know, I would give him his prop, you know, he. He did a hell of a job of also keeping his team together, also, you know, making it. You know, I mean, he knew what is. I guess might been in this league for a while now. He knew what kind of expect, especially throughout the culture change and how maybe the locker room would maybe react. I want to say he did a hell of a job of keeping us together. You know, he was.

[Taylor Lewan]

He.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You know, he made sure he met with the captains. He came, he came. He was coming to me a lot. Like, you know, is there anything we need to do? Do I need to change anything? You know, ask captain. Do they have anything? We come into the captain meetings on Wednesday. Do y' all have anything? What can I do better? So he was doing a hell of a job. And the transition, you know, as a head coach is. It's just about leading the football team. And I think, you know, he stepped in and did his job, and he did a hell of a job at it. And like I said, yes, do we wish we could have won more games? And. Yes. But I think in his position and the way he stepped in and filled that role, I think it was unbelievable to see, you know, a lot of people may wanted somebody else at that spot as. Like I said, when you read them things like, you know, why not Danoy, why not Bones? But I think them guys were able to do their job and, you know, not have a hiccup and. And they might stepped in and did a good job too.

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

When we're, we're sitting here now and there's no head coach for the Titans, you, your guarantee is almost up. All the way up, somewhat up. There's a, there's a level there. But there's 10 head coaching vacancies right now and there's a lot of names being thrown around. When you see those names, like what sparks your interest. Is it a defensive minded head coach? Are you like, hey we see the good DC or do you like an offensive minded head coach? Like if you're, if you're Jeffrey Simmons and you're owning the Tennessee Titans and you see where the holes are, what is your thought process?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean I feel like with a defensive head coach, I mean brave was a, you can say brave was everything because he swear he could go over there and coach the damn quarterback.

[Will Compton]

Dude. He came in the offensive line room. Yeah, like we would come in our room and Keith Carter would be telling us don't do this on your technique on the back side of like gap scheme, don't pass set, none of that. And Rebel would walk in five minutes later. But hey, on the backside of gaps game, like why don't you guys just like pass? It was, it was always Vrabel can coach everybody in Rabel's mind.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But I would say just, you know, because when you're talking about, because every, it's going to be a lot of, of it's a lot of coaches available and I mean especially when you see the interviews and you see some of the guys that they interview, you see like, okay, these guys is they got a good resume. But for me as a defensive player, I was love a defensive head coach, you know. But me being the, you know, the player I am, whoever come in, I just want to win football game. Can we get a guy who was a winner, a guy who could come in and set a great foundation and a great culture and get this thing back to winning football games. But of course, you know, I would love the defensive head coach because especially if he's a defensive front guy, you know, if he let his defensive front go. D line, not a D line, not, not a D line coach.

[Will Compton]

As a. Jeff Simmons wants a, wants a defensive coach that allows the defense line to do whatever they want. The linebackers have to figure it out.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Just go, go Play ball, Mike.

[Will Compton]

And will you guys just cover them up? Let these boys go, man.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Listen, listen, will you? Okay, Just. We just talking about guys that interview like, I mean that's available from the D.C. from the Fortiners. You got the D.C. from the Broncos, right.

[Taylor Lewan]

I mean Vikings with Brian Flores.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You look at halfway. Yeah, look at the defense that we. The guys that's available in that interviewing right now, their defense is led up front. I feel like if you could rush four to five. My thing is rush five, give me some one on ones. The Broncos, it's hard to block them up front because they rushing five damn near every snap. And it's just like when you get guys like that that can let their front. Because I feel like when you playing defense and when you try to go so much of scheme versus players.

[Will Compton]

It.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Ain'T gonna be good. Yeah, I feel like when you let your best player. Like our strength was our defensive front this past year. Like we can say whatever we want, but our strength from me sweat. You got Arden the guys up front. When we played our best ball, it was because the defensive line had a great game. Yes, we, we get some, you know, maybe an interception here and there or whatever on the back end. But what's causing them intercept. And I feel like when you let your D line go and eat and maybe rush five now they got a 5, 0 offensive line hate 5, 0, especially centers because they can't they the worst athletes on the O line. Like that's just what it is. Yeah, that's the worst.

[Will Compton]

You were 100% right. Knowing that everybody's one on one, you're not getting help anywhere is terrifying.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Put your worst. Put me over the center on third down, one on one, they not blocking me. So it's like whoever give me a one on one line of my ass up against Taylor.

[Will Compton]

One on one, you're getting jump set and cut.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's fine.

[Will Compton]

But you know what pisses me off is when like Chris Jones, he'll line up on the end sometimes. And I watch these tackles like vertical set. I'm thinking, bro, what the fuck are you thinking? Like anytime Chris Jones or a big guy would come up on me like, oh, we're playing basketball, there's no way I'm going to allow you to just have a running start at my face.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Fast white though, if I know you jumping me. What about fast swipe or inside move.

[Will Compton]

Buddy, I'll take that over me just backing up and you being like, I didn't do that.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean, I'm Watching what you do.

[Will Compton]

To guards, I'm thinking to myself, jesus Christ.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean I was to your point because I trained with Trent Brown. Like I see the type of sets he do. And I mean he messed it up on me one time when we were doing get off and one on ones. Not full speed in the off season, but. But when we play against the Texans and I told Arden, switch with me. Because I'm like, bro, I'm just keeping the slide, kicking the slide. And it was a play that I'm like, switch with me. But I'm like, oh, it Trent big ass. It was like the play that I. When I end up switching, I'm like Trent. But when I got off the ball, I saw he set me. Then I saw him try to punch me. I swiped his hand and got a sack. I'm like, you know, like, this is. This is fun to be on the edge. Like I could do this. I could play on it. I could get off maybe on some. Some I'm not ever down. God to be out there on the edge. But now I could have the freedom to move around. But. And then on that play, it was a play they had the 5 0. So now the running back not on my side. I'm not getting chipped the tight end out of the core got a one on one with one of the biggest. Probably the biggest.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's a big human.

[Will Compton]

Big ass human being.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But yeah, man, I just. Hopefully we can get somebody here and just defensive coach.

[Will Compton]

So we want a defensive coach. We want to be.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Guess what. You go get your. Guess what. I ain't taking. I know Cam them especially with Cam being a quarterback. He may want an offensive guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

But I was gonna say I feel like you kind of need an offensive guy.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But you go get. It's a lot of. It's a lot of good coordinators that offensive coaches that May got just got fired that May won't get a head coaching job. Pop now we just go offer him a nice contract to be the oc.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's the like kind of secret, right? Because that's what rage has got with McDaniels. It's like he. That's dude's that been like the secret ingredient with Drake made.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's my point. You kind of need not vra.

[Taylor Lewan]

You need that situation. You don't need an up and comero see there with Cam for a year then go get a head coach.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You got. You got to. You got to get you a like somebody who you lock in with that we could get Cam rolling Because, man, we get a defensive head coach who can't think, go get Will to come call her down and coach Cam up. I'm sure very Bo over there thinking. I'm sure he probably over there trying to act like he coaching Drake up and it's McDaniel probably.

[Taylor Lewan]

So, you know, he won't say nothing. He'll take the credit.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Oh, yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

He won't talk too loudly about it.

[Will Compton]

Rabel's in a unique place because his OC who's been so great, he's already had two stints as a head coach and they've gone horrible.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

So he's this guy. He's now like put himself in like, like he will always be an OC from here on out unless something unforeseen happens. So Braves in a great spot with that being a defensive minded guy and oc that's never going to go anywhere.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Because anytime you have offensive success in a big way, that guy's gone. He's either. What you're looking for is I think what Jack brought up, which is a beautiful dream to have, which is Robert Sala as your head Coach and Mike McDaniels your OC.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just gonna start picking them.

[Will Compton]

Like just start yell. There's 10 hood coaching vacancies, but let me get two of the top don't dogs and put them on one team.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Put the names in the hat.

[Will Compton]

Put the name in the hat.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I can't. Can't say that right now. But yeah, that don't sound like a bad coaching.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, it's not a bad Nick combo right there.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Taylor Lewan]

How. How's the relationship with Cam?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It's good, man. We, you know, of course, my first time get after it.

[Taylor Lewan]

Now y' all talk.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, that's part of it. I feel like that's part of my first time meeting Cam. We had like the lit, I think with D Hop. Was that D Hop? Yeah, I think D hop. Even though he wasn't here actually on the team, he had like a. I think it was like a get together or a birthday. I think it was a birthday party. And of course, like we all came. It was right before OTAs mandatory mini camp. It was. And I remember seeing Cam and he came in and you know, of course we introduced. That's my first time meeting him. And that was. That was in June and I saw him and from that point, from that time when I walked up to Cam and we were talking, we started talking instantly. It was like. Because I heard, I was like, I heard you've been talking Hella shit. And I heard you've been, you know, having fun with the little 707 or whatever y' all been doing. And he was like, yeah, I'mma slice y' all ass up, too. He said, you'll see. And I'm like, okay, this is what it is, huh? And then from that point on, I can't remember exactly what we're saying about. Of course, I started talking to him. And then, you know, we get to training camp, and it was the same thing. I think even with the stuff that was on social media and they talking about the fight, it wasn't. It was literally, you know, it was a rough day. It was a rough day for the offense. They started off kind of slow, and we was out. You know me, I. I talk a hell of. Like, I'm a. This. Not just in. In the game. This. To my teammate, this at practice, and we talk a hell of smack. And we was in the red zone. It was a day before. The day before. We beat the hell out of offense because Dinar, he had this system to where we're tallying every single play. Did we lose or win this play? And we was killing the offense. We were killing the offense, and, like, we was kicking their ass. But the next day, it was red zone. And, you know, we started out good, whatever. Cause we do the inside runs, and we brought that back, the inside run. So we shut that down. Next period, seven on seven, whatever. Then we get the red zone. And you know me, we stopped him. I'm talking shit to Cam. The next play, he fucking throw a touchdown to rid in the back of the end zone, I think. And I'm like, fuck it. I'm like, here he come. And so he's caning me, talking shit. And.

[Will Compton]

And.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And he. You know, of course, at that point, I'm. I'm pissed. I'm like, bro, what are we doing? We just gave up a touchdown. Like, it's. I think. Because I think it was actually move to field. Maybe it was move to field. I think it was moved to field. Wasn't actually red zone, but we was moving the field, and they got in the red zone and scored. And I'm like, what are we doing, DB he's like, now I gotta hear this motherfucker, man. He got. And he did that shit. I'm like. That made me even. I'm like, I'm pissed for real now. So then he came. He came up to me and kind of, like, gave me a shove, and it was like. Did this just push me, like, that while I'm already pissed off. So it was like a reaction. Not of like, let me beat his ass, but it was like reaction to.

[Will Compton]

Like, another man put his hands on you.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It wasn't even that. It was more like in the heat of the moment, you're not thinking, I'm.

[Taylor Lewan]

Gonna beat his ass. You had a reaction like, I'm gonna beat his ass.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But then it wasn't nothing but like, I kind of pushed him. But it as offensive lineman now, he come to miss the badasses. Like all the linemen, like, they trying to protect the quarterback. Here they go. So I'm like. Then that's. That's when they start pushing. I'm starting. I didn't grab. I forgot who I grab. And I'm. It's kind of just like a push and shove. It wasn't no punches got thrown to nothing. But that all started because of course, Cam doing his damn celebration. And he kind of bumped me. It was like, hold on.

[Will Compton]

He kind of bump you or did he push you?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It was. It was a more like a, you know, like, okay. Talking about. It wasn't like a meme push.

[Taylor Lewan]

I heard can beat him up, put his hands on him, and he came off. He shoved him.

[Will Compton]

I heard Cam beat his ass. And then Buck rising was like, you, Jeff Simmons, he beat your ass?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Hell, no. That's.

[Will Compton]

He's getting all comfortable.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's feeling that. How does.

[Will Compton]

How is your leadership developed from on the field antics to the locker room? Do you bring it to the locker.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Room with the smack into it with people? No, no, no. See, I don't. For me, because I didn't. I mean, offensive lineman's like, we. We go at it and then I feel like, like linebackers or whatever they do, they drills and maybe they got seven on seven. When we start hitting each other one on one, it's kind of. But it's the truth. We go from individuals we all know. It's like we always moving. And then we go straight to one on ones.

[Taylor Lewan]

Get off on the snap.

[Will Compton]

We go, I've seen your individuals. You over there.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And one was big T. That was.

[Taylor Lewan]

A good jump right there.

[Will Compton]

You would be dying over there and you'd be everybody jumping like, you guys. You guys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Sorry.

[Will Compton]

As you should. This man's taking a knee for 15.

[Taylor Lewan]

Minutes with a little arm.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It's not that bad.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, good lean, good bin right there.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Don't say, I'll be. I'm not saying I'll be dead an individual. But I'm saying from when we Go straight to. We go to straight to one on ones. Then we go to inside run, then we go to teams. It's like from that point on it be some play. The linebackers are quarterbacks or receivers. They might not even get touched. But it's like a long day. Hell no.

[Taylor Lewan]

Try covering Tony Pollard out of the backfield.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Well, we didn't leave you on no damn running back. But I'm just saying like the, the temper is going flare like it's gonna happen. But then it's like after practice it may, hell, sometimes Khaled may have me break it down on purpose to where I'm like, you know shit like this gonna happen when we walk off this football field. You know, it's still the brotherhood, it's still. This is the reason why we play the game. But now because we are teammates, we trying to win the football game and we working to win football games. So I wasn't, I'm not a guy that if I get into it with Tony Pollard on the football field, not finna could bring it into the locker room and be like, you know, like I want to really fight you, you. Because I mean, what is it going to get me?

[Will Compton]

Let me give you a hypothetical. Let's say you're in the middle of dog days in camp. It's mid August, right? There's a two minute drill taking place. You guys run a zone blitz the right side, the left tackle pads. Pads left tackle kind of gives you a bank on the hip. You go flying. Left tackle runs down the field. You chasing him and trying to fight him or.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, it depends if I'm tired.

[Will Compton]

Let me ask you this. After that play, are you going to the locker room and standing over over him, trying to fight him?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Listen, because I don't know what you're trying to get at right now.

[Will Compton]

You don't know what I'm trying to get at?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, but sound like it got some other that oh this is, this is.

[Will Compton]

We have to be worried about Jeff's mental health if he's not remembering the situation.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Listen, it had to been some other leading up to it because it's not just going to be one play that going to make. Because I'm. I mean happened. But I really realized, I think that play that you bringing back up that happened a couple years ago, it's crazy that you could remember that and not that damn gold necklace but the fact that you brought that up that day. Now that I'm thinking about it, the shit started. Individual and team 707 and one on ones it started back there. You remember that? We got into it and doing one on ones, I beat Roger south folk. I beat Roger Safo.

[Will Compton]

Okay, so he remembers the situation.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I remember I beat Roger Safo and he was like, let me get another rep. He said, back on the line, whatever. Y' all know how old lineman get beat so fast? They want to get a new rep. That's what they do.

[Will Compton]

Same thing happens with defensive linemen. They get hammed up on that slot of scrimmage. I'll be like, we'll run it back.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

We'll be like said, let's get another rep. I'm like, you know me at that point, I'm hype. I'm still a young boy at that point. Year two, whatever. I'm going to Rogers half or no, year one. Was it one or two?

[Will Compton]

This is, this has got to be like 20.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think it was year two, year two, whatever. And I'm, you know, I'm hype as hell. I'm like, this right here, Is he like Roger Sappho have a name? He's like, and that when I'm going against these guys, I'm like, I'm going to get some good ass guys.

[Taylor Lewan]

You trophy hunt.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But when I'm. No, not, not done all that. Well, you trying to.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, I'm saying.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, yeah. But when I, when I did, it was like, oh, I just beat his ass. Like, you know, and that was like, let's get another record up. And of course his background music over here. Oh, you scared this and that. Oh, you missed.

[Will Compton]

The guys can't have fun. Guys can't punch chops. Guys can't punch chops.

[Taylor Lewan]

Building up to this.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

He wouldn't stop. And you know, at that point, at that point, shit, we going at it and maybe I, I told his ass and I remember what I said. I said, motherfucker, you making all that money. You go again. I said, they overpaid your ass. That's what I told Taylor.

[Will Compton]

It has been said a few times.

[Taylor Lewan]

And that's crazy. He's just somebody.

[Will Compton]

Right now.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Aren't you just trying to be a. He was talking.

[Will Compton]

I did that every day. Every day.

[Taylor Lewan]

Got beat. I want him to. Hey, yeah, you got this and you're overpaid. God damn.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

He said, you he mention something about me?

[Will Compton]

What's crazy is he's not seeing it right now.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You remember you saying something about the first round and I remember after that when you said that, I don't know what you said. I can't remember exactly what you said. And that's when I went to the overpaid and I think he was. Taylor was pissed about that. Because one thing about Taylor after the situation, he gonna let you know like bro, that with me a little bit. Like you gonna know. You gonna know like it with him a little bit. Cuz his demeanor like with something Taylor, come on, is I'm lying?

[Will Compton]

Well, it depends on how you finish the sentence of demeanor. It depends how you finish the sentence of demeanor.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Your body demeanor. Like when certain if someone rub you the wrong way or I mean that's just, that's us being human. Like someone say something maybe like oh, this mother especially me being a young buck, I've said that to him. He probably like did this young just say this to me? Probably.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But then we get the teams. I'm like at this point it's like him and Roger you. I'm already, at this point I'm already like dynamite run game. Like it's like you already got to know because for one he gonna jump the snap.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And it's like I gotta come off and I do.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And I would finish a little harder.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yes.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

He only did it once. He know he got you good.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh yeah, I've been there. But he's like put me like he pushed me all the way off the side.

[Will Compton]

I did that cuz it was you with Jeff.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Jeff.

[Will Compton]

It's like, oh, if I can catch this dude on the hip, I'm gonna catch his ass on the hip.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But most time like if I get off and like I'm come off on the guard, like I got my hand in his Roger chest or some shit and I knock him back, he may give you a little bump and keep going, get the line back. But if he catch you, he like trying to take you to the far sideline. And I'm like this motherfucker.

[Will Compton]

Nasty boy. Nasty boy. Hold on, hold on.

[Taylor Lewan]

Let me just tell you what first round thing. Did you hit him?

[Will Compton]

I can't remember. I can't remember, remember the first because for me it's like, for me it's offensive linemen are like more quiet. They're more like the Ben Jones. I know. I'm saying for the most part they are like this. But then I see the defensive lineman at this time they have a lot of rest. We, we are going and going, going Keith. So in my head I'm thinking I got to bring juice. So we go to one on ones. I would talk shit. We go to practice to talk shit. I was always a well conditioned cat. And so I would always kind of like. Like, be talking crazy during practice. Jerrell wouldn't say a whole lot. And then you come and you're doing the same thing. So I'm like, oh, I'm having. I have somebody to banter with now. Not knowing that Jeff takes it personal. When you banter with Jeff.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Take it personal.

[Will Compton]

All right. It seems like you're taking that personal. Just. I do not take it personal. I don't remember that. That comment. But as far as the double teams go, it depends where I'm going. If it's a power, I'm going to the backside linebacker so I can dig into you a little bit.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Bit.

[Will Compton]

And if it's a duo, I'm going to the front side linebacker. So I do have to, like, get off based on what they're doing. But if I can dig in that hip a little bit.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Taylor, you never came off. No matter what play. Whatever you was to catch me, you never came off.

[Will Compton]

No, that's not true. We could pop up film.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Taylor, I'm. If you. If it's a play, that I guarantee. Because how many. How many. Y' all was the offense. Y' all was running. It was more of a stretch anyway.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. But you start getting guys who go lateral, then you hit him with the duo, and that's when they step lateral and get got there.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Ain't many times that I step later. I'm in.

[Will Compton]

Definitely not. Like, that was a very painful situation. That's why I loved Roger. Because Roger would be able to hit you.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And he would do all three texts, and then I could just hit the hip, and then Roger could handle business and I can go to the linebacker. But to go back to this hypothetical situation that you remember or at practice, and I think you can correct me if I'm wrong, after I'm done telling the story. We have, like, a good relationship, you and I. The end. The end drops. You start to loop out, and I kind of just. I hit you, but I catch you off your center of balance and you fall down. I got you.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Was it just. Wait, was it just like a.

[Will Compton]

It wasn't. I. I promise it wasn't a malicious. Like, as if I'm in a game, I'm throwing my entire body into it because I know you're not.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But was it. Was it. Was it appropriate for practice?

[Will Compton]

I think this is what I truly believe. I truly believe I caught you off balance.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Okay, so let me ask you this.

[Will Compton]

And you. And you flew.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So let me ask you this. You Know how brave Used to say as a defensive line, defensive front, use your hands at practicing and pick.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So when we was running them games, if I was to come and smoke my ass. Smoke you? Yeah, with a shoulder and say, oh, I badly touch you, would you not be pissed at practice?

[Will Compton]

I'd be pissed at practice. And that's a great point you just made. I'd be pissed at practice. So I bing, I bink, and I start finishing downfield. I hear some huffing and puffing behind me. This dude comes up, tries to swing on my ass.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So why did you take off running?

[Will Compton]

Because we have to finish the play, you know. Hold on, hold on. Well, when the ball come down, you always heard Rabel and Keith would be like, you have finished. Got to finish, you know?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So when you. When you were running, while you was.

[Will Compton]

Oh, when I turned around, I knew there was something coming after me 100%. So you come over, we face mask, grab. We get in the football fight, whatever. Practice ends, I'm thinking to myself, we are done with practice. Things have happened. It's all good. Things need to be cleared up. We get in the locker room.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

What did you do when you walk in the locker room?

[Will Compton]

What I do?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Went and set your sweaty ass in my locker.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I did.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

All right then. All right then.

[Will Compton]

Hold on.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

All right then, what did you do? Me walking the locker.

[Will Compton]

Because I know your personality.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So I'm in there. So you in.

[Will Compton]

Jeff comes up like this. He goes, you wanna do something?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So while I do something, you just.

[Will Compton]

Call me little N word.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So I'm thinking to myself, like, go to your damn locker. You in the fucking corner. You deep in the corner.

[Taylor Lewan]

You got two lockers.

[Will Compton]

Hey, our lockers are right here.

[Taylor Lewan]

In here.

[Will Compton]

I can.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Okay, sit right here.

[Will Compton]

You right there.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, you had that damn thing standing. I mean, in the. Right there. You maybe you in the corner, though. When you walk in the locker room, you take a left. You kept straight, set your sweaty. It's camp, you know, he's the offensive lineman. They sweat nasty like they.

[Will Compton]

Now Jeff can't sweat. I swear.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I swear.

[Will Compton]

Now Jeff can't sweat.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like you and Nate David was the worst sweat. Like y' all sweat. Well, yeah, but you go and sit and you know, as when we get dressed, we put our clothes right there in our locker and he set his sweaty ass in my locker. So I'm like, he's still on bullshit. So what the fuck you want to do?

[Will Compton]

So guys can't have fun. So Jeff. Jeff tries to fight me. Will tries to fight me right there. I'm like, bro, we're not gonna fight. We're teammates. What are we doing? I'm trying to have a little fun with you. I walk over to my locker and you followed me and I'm getting on just. Dude, I'm literally taking my crates off while this dude's barking.

[Taylor Lewan]

Time out, time out, time out.

[Will Compton]

Let's go back, let's back up.

[Taylor Lewan]

So the angle of sitting on his.

[Will Compton]

Locker, instigating, for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

Okay, yeah. So you guys have an exchange. You come over, he calls you little N. Little ass. N. Yeah, little ass.

[Will Compton]

And you try to do this little lesson. I'll beat your little ass. Little end.

[Taylor Lewan]

You're thinking, there's a lot more ends.

[Will Compton]

Being thrown around than I care to. I care to. I'm a white boy from Cape Creek, Arizona. I'm a little. I'm out of my element right now.

[Taylor Lewan]

Clearly, it's escalated to a level to where now you're just like, all right, let me just remove. I'm going to go right.

[Will Compton]

I need to back up because clearly I misread this situation, which is not out of the realm of possibilities with me at this time in my life. Even now, I'm thinking to myself, I.

[Taylor Lewan]

Got this situation on how this.

[Will Compton]

He's a competitor. I'm going to mess with him when we get in the locker room. But at the end of the day, like, I felt like at this moment we had a good enough relationship to be like, you know, I wouldn't try to get you. Get you, You.

[Taylor Lewan]

Okay, so going back and forth, you go to your locker, then you follow him.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I don't remember following him, Jeff.

[Taylor Lewan]

I. I don't remember that part out.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, I probably cuz the. The part. The part where. Cuz, I mean, I think that. What that play you talking about? Of course, maybe at the end of practice to where he hit me, whatever. And maybe the temper stilled up. But I'm not going to come in the locker room to let's go fight in the locker room, but to go sit in my damn locker. Now, my pants may be wet that I wore in to. To practice that day. Like, yeah, I'm pissed off at that point.

[Will Compton]

Like, I ain't seen on your clothes. But anyway, that's what. That's what essentially took place to where, like, we're talking a week goes by where I try to lend the olive branch a few times. Hey, man, are we trying to have it be like this forever, man? You little ass. I'm thinking to myself, I gotta worry about being at practice like this dude. I'm gonna get blindsided.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think that same way.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I'm thinking. I'm like, I'm trying to have fun at practice as much as you can have fun in camp. I get a bank. It literally wasn't like a malicious bank. It was just. I caught this man in a set of gravity. Everyone gets got. And to the point where Jeff unfollows me. Jeff unfollows me on social media. We go back and forth. I let a year later shoot him a dm. Hey, I'm ready to make up on. You are no response.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I don't remember all that response. I remember that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Remember the gold chain?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. So what happened with the gold chain? Are we good now though?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

My first couple years, you know. We good, bro.

[Taylor Lewan]

This is big. This is big. Time out.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Time out.

[Taylor Lewan]

Here's what we need.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But. But when I was in Vegas.

[Will Compton]

We gotta have a hug.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

When I was in Vegas. I feel like that was like a fuck you moment though. Cause maybe. Maybe. Maybe they. Yeah, like last weekend. Maybe they did. Maybe they did tell Will. I mean, they did tell Taylor I was over there. And he probably said, don't, don't, don't, don't.

[Will Compton]

Like, I can promise you that. There's no way I was there.

[Taylor Lewan]

Jared has no clue who you are. It's nothing to you. Jared. He doesn't know.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But no. But no.

[Taylor Lewan]

That is.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Go back to the gold change, though. You know, he was.

[Taylor Lewan]

Before we get to that. That here's all I think we need.

[Will Compton]

I'm ready to.

[Taylor Lewan]

We just need both of you guys to say sorry to one another. Because even when.

[Will Compton]

Even.

[Taylor Lewan]

Even when you're searching, like, when you're like, hey, are we good? It's not hey, that's my bad. You didn't say, hey. That's my. There was never a That's my bad. I feel like all this needs is for y' all to be. You're like. You know, temper's probably still flared up from practice. I wasn't expecting to go in. It's not like. All right. I was still a little fired up from practice, so I wasn't sitting there.

[Will Compton]

Hey, hey.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Who you think start. No, no, no, no.

[Will Compton]

Let me say one thing. He's right.

[Taylor Lewan]

All we need.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Before you say that. Before you say that. I was done with this shit. I didn't come off the practice field like, what the fuck Taylor at? Did he not. He went to the lot. So I came on the field and said what?

[Taylor Lewan]

We made so much progress.

[Will Compton]

We've made progress, but let's just see if we can fix this and then go back. Because this man was saying something to me as I was going into the practice field where, like, Jordan Ruse and a couple guys are like, yo, is he good? I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna try to. Who?

[Taylor Lewan]

Ruse.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Oh.

[Will Compton]

That was your turn.

[Taylor Lewan]

He hates Ruse.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, I don't. But them all, because I want to say I hate him. They always his sidekick. They kiss Taylor ass. Everybody.

[Will Compton]

Like, I can't leave my voice.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like, everything Taylor did, like, to the way Taylor was fucking dressing. They went and got vans. They went and got.

[Will Compton]

Damn.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Everybody wearing vans now. Like, I'm like, man, get off here. Nuts, bro.

[Will Compton]

Like, we had a good offensive line, we had a good time. We had good leadership in that room.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Get it? But golly, like, whatever.

[Will Compton]

Hey, can I tell you something? Can I tell you something?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

What, bro?

[Will Compton]

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have hit you that hard. It wasn't intentional, and I shouldn't have gone to your locker.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

What? So what, you want me to apologize for saying an N word?

[Taylor Lewan]

What do you think you can. You know, this is on your own.

[Will Compton]

Let's take a. Let's take a moment to realize maybe, just maybe I shouldn't have volunteered to his locker, tried to fight him, held a grudge for a year and a half.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Tyler, you said. I told you, I don't remember. But if you say that, I apologize.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not a real apology.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I apologize for the situation that happened in the locker room.

[Will Compton]

Is that good enough for you?

[Taylor Lewan]

And I apologize for kind of creating a grudge. You can even say kinda the grudge.

[Will Compton]

Like, hey, you had a grudge. You know, you. It's all good.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Okay, I apologize for creating a grudge.

[Taylor Lewan]

You want to know what's funny, too? As. As we're having fun with all this.

[Will Compton]

Bro, it's so funny the way Jeff's just like. And I apologize for having a grudge.

[Taylor Lewan]

But I'm thinking we're talking earlier about, like, player culture, leadership. And he alludes to, like, we all grown men, like, we shouldn't be sensitive. You could just tell. There's the sensitivity throughout the locker room. Myself, everybody included. You could just tell how it gets a little. It gets a little sensitive around everybody. Everybody should be able to handle.

[Will Compton]

Especially, like, where you're at in your career right now. I completely understand the whole, like, I'm not bending the knee to nothing because there is a level of like. Like, you want to be the top dog. You want to be the alpha dog. You want to like always like hold the standard for yourself. You always have. And I'm just telling you, and I hope it's not for 10 years from now when you're out, you realize like, wow, there's a lot of that I handled that. I was like, I shouldn't have been that mad or I shouldn't have handled that. I shouldn't have gone and sat the guy's locker after to try to instigate or around to.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I had them moments though, like, yeah, throughout. Like, like that's the reason why this year, like was a big year for me. Like I did a. Like this past offseason was probably the most. I actually did a lot of self reflecting to where my last couple years from the reason why I changed my diet to the way I led, the way I was a leader in the locker room, to some of my actions and not just with the game of football, but in life to where. Damn, like you just said, maybe I should have never got that pissed off. Maybe I should have had the, the Cam Ward situation in training camp when I after practice and especially the way it blew up. Like, I didn't want that to like the way it blew up. I'm like, why does shit blowing up? Because after practice, what didn't get to the media is how Cam came straight to my locker when we walked off the football field. When they locked it. What Taylor did, that's what Cam did. He sat right beside. Not in my locker, but he sat right beside the empty locker that was open. Came over there, eating a damn freeze pop, talking to me like, that's what you know. But it's like in the heat of the moment when you got media practice and you got guys setting up these tents, getting ready to do interviews, like, damn, how can I handle that? How could I. How could I handle that different to, you know, throughout the years, to my. In my career, on game, game days to, to go back to the damn situation. I think we were playing the Bills. Bobby Hart, I know y' all remember when he punched Vrabel, you know that all happened in the middle of the game to where he pissed off at me now after the game. You know, I'm at that point, I'm still, I'm. I'm not a old. I'm not old. As old as old I am now to where Damn right. You want to fight? Let's we fight in the tunnel. We walking. We gonna roll out in the tunnel together. You know, in Buffalo, the Tunnel right there together. The locker room's right there together. So I'm like, let's fight old. To me now, it's like, bro, not like what happened on the. In the. Between them lines. If you want to fight, go ahead. Like, yeah, but like, that's the type of things to where, like I said, I did a lot of reflecting this past off season. How can I, you know, not just be a better football player, but a better person on the football field?

[Will Compton]

Is there. Is there a piece of you with, like, growing up, going to Mississippi State, however your story is and however it went where you've had this, like, chip on your shoulder of like, whatever your motivating factor is, like, I had to be an on the field and. And letting things bleed over to the other side off the field that you feel like a man. If I lose this piece of me, then I might lose that piece of me on the field. Because I know that was a thing for me, especially in college. In my first couple years in the league, I'd be like, well, I partied a bunch. If I don't have this like, whatever mentality, like gritty type of mentality off the field, on the field, I'm not going to have the same thing.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Nah. I would say for me personally, I don't. I never had that. Like, I never had, like, oh, let me be an asshole in the field. But if I lose that, maybe something else, I guess I lose something else off the field. I think for me, the game of football is the reason why I made it to where I'm at right now. I've been playing football since I was five. I started playing football early. I got an older brother, of course, two years older than me. I was going to football practice with him and I decided I wanted to play football because of him. I'm watching him and I started early, remember traveling to Atlanta to play travel ball. And we went out there and I'm the youngest kid out there and I'm playing out there with him. And we used to be in the backyard, put on our shoulder pads and helmet, hitting a damn poundry that we had in our backyard. To now, it's like the game of football was my escape goat from everything. So I would say growing up as a child, not having a father, I think when I got older, I realized how much that did affect me. I would say that's the reason why I play. I think I play with so much anger because, I mean, in high school, you playing, you, you having fun. In college, you still having fun but you're not realizing like damn, why the hell I'm playing so angry, you know. But I'm still having fun doing it. And it's still to this day it's just like when you, when you could get to a point where were like damn, football is the reason why football really saved you. Kind of one of them deals. And I mean it's just like, you know, not to even kind of go in detail to the situation I had in high school to you know, if I was just a average person, you know, not not having a scholarship to go play football at Mississippi State, you know, where would I be right now would in that situation to where that just happened? National media. I would have got a second opportunity in life without the game of football. And that's the reason why like even to this day, like maybe that kind of helped me mold me to the player I am on the football field. Cause it's just like, you know, I'm grateful to play this game. I'm grateful to go out there each and every day, each and every Sunday to go out there and have people cheering for me. And that's the reason why like when I go out there there I'm trying to go 100 mile per hour every single time I'm on the football field. And it's just like that's my why because I, I didn't have that second opportunity in life to continue to doing what I've been doing since I was 5 years old. So I wouldn't say it's something that if I lose, I don't think I. It's not something that if I lose that edge that I have on the football field, which I don't think I lose until I'm maybe can't do it no more. But I think when you, if I ever lose the game of football because of maybe I retire, maybe an injury, whatever it may be, I don't think that'll change the person who I am off the football field.

[Taylor Lewan]

Appreciate you sharing that all. All that was too about your dad and everything.

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[Will Compton]

Does it change your perspective on being a father now?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Most definitely. You know when you for me, you know I I don't try to like because I I never want to sit, you know and and bash my dad. I never had a conversation with my dad. I'm 28 years old. Never to this day do I have of like bro, I just want to go sit down with my dad and figure out why and what happened throughout from when I was born up until this day. Like I want to like sometimes do I have them thoughts like hell yeah. But it's to a point now where I'm a grown man. But I also I have guys like my uncle one probably I call him dad at times like he act like a dad at time. I mean you've been around my uncle like no matter who it is he probably, probably. He treat grown men like, I'm going sit down and talk to you. But when I, when you have guys like him, my high school coach, who's one guy that I really used to call my dad and still, you know, great communication with him, my high school coach, Tyrone Shorter, like, when you have guys like that around you, it kind of. I wouldn't say. I would say put a band aid on it because it's not fixing the problem. And so throughout my, My, like, my life is like, I want to sit down and talk to my dad. I remember talking to my uncle about it. Like, do you. Because I'm, I'm talking like, you know, he, he recommended, like, I think you just should try to do it. And I'm like, like, reach out to him and just say, like, let's meet up and let's have a conversation. But one thing that's, And I really don't tell people this, but one thing that scarred me was I remember being back in Louisiana, where I was born at. I was born in Gina, Louisiana. I just remember, remember being in Louisiana and me like kids walked. I mean, my family right there. I was like, your dad about to pull up, your dad coming, and I'm sitting on the step and then I think, this is scar me, bro. Like, he walked straight past me and ain't say no. And it was like, like, you know, as a kid, like, you're not thinking like, oh, he going, you know, he just maybe in a rush, he going to come back, whatever. And like, I mean, nothing. So throughout my life, like throughout my growing up and to this point in my life, it's like, that was an opportunity. Yeah, but nothing. So it's like me at, at this point in my life now is like, how can I be the best dad? How can I, you know? Yes. Sometime when you. The parents of your child, you know, pissing you off, like, but it's not about them. It's about how can I be the best dad for my child. Because, like, yeah, as a parent, like, especially playing the game of football, we know how much time is valuable and you know, that's the thing that we wish we could get back, especially you know, with me, with my dad. But, but, you know, I would say my mom did a hell of a job and that's the reason why I give all. Like when I signed the contract, like, I was damn, not damn near, I was in tears up there talking about my mom because, I mean, my mom raised five kids. You know, my mom raised five kids and I'm guarantee you that every one of them you walk up to and when you meet. When we meet other people and you talk about. You talk about. About who we really are as a. As per. As a people. I'm sure, like everybody that meet us and they go back and tell my mom, like, your kids are respectful. Like, it's gonna be yes, man, yes. Like it's gonna be all of that. And that's the way we was raised. And that's why I always get a praise to my mom because she did a hell of a job. Like, you know, from job to job to me seeing my mom sitting on the side of the bed crying, trying to figure out what's the how to. To make all Christmas good because she just got laid off to, you know, not wanting for nothing as a kid. And that's the reason why, you know, no matter what it may be, you know, sometimes we all know parents could get a little. Get. Get a little. What's the word for it? Like, like leave me the hell alone sometime. Like, you know, but we all know they can get annoying. I should say at time. But, you know, I'm grateful for my mom and, and you know, she did a hell of a job of raising us because as a. At an early age, me and my brother had to learn how to be the man of the house early.

[Taylor Lewan]

So I can only imagine how hard that was, balancing jobs, raising five kids like you're a father now. Like, you imagine having five kiddos that.

[Will Compton]

You'Re fully by yourself, just ripping around.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. And feeling like, you know, holidays or what your. Your kids are learning at school, the excitement around a holiday and you and your mind having to sit with like, man, I need to figure something out to provide like a Christmas experience. Like, you let it that you. You let them down at times and you just wear that I can only imagine.

[Will Compton]

And not telling them what's really going on. Just be like, I have to make it as good as possible. They need to worry about these issues that I.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's why I say with us like me and my siblings. See, like, we saw my mom break down to where she just got laid off.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But every birthday we had a part maybe like hot dogs. And that's when we were sticking our damn head in the bucket of apples and water. We used to actually, like, she used to make things fun for us as kids. And Christmas, like, we always had a good Christmas. And that's why I said like, to this day, like, you know, my mom is like, she's like, I said things get annoying. That's just family for you. And, and you know, I would, I would never like, not do for my mom.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah. You feel like the conversation you'd have with your uncle about talking to your dad and then it doesn't get to that step. Do you feel like it's, it's you being angry about the situation. You feel like, hey, maybe I reach out and he. The whole, you know, walking past you on the step.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't say angry because I'm past that stage. I mean, because I, I feel like the anger would, would cause utter like hatred because I don't hate my dad because of the situation. It's more of. For me. It's like, why now? Like, why would I do it now? Yeah, but. And I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago and I was talking to my girl about it. It was just like, what if I don't get an opportunity? Something happened to him, something happened to me. Should never know. What if, what if I don't get the opportunity before something.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Tragedy happened.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's what I was going to ask.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And I, and I think that's what I've been thinking more on. You know, my goal is to continue to try to. I mean, because I mean that one thing I'm big on and one thing I'm. I want to get more into is therapy. It's like, how can I figure out ways to get around all of these? I wouldn't say like hatred or you know, anger, because it's not really that, but how can I get around them feelings to put aside to have that conversation?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Because I mean, I still, I talked to my siblings on his, on his side. Like, you know, one of my sisters, she. She's always checking in. You know, my brother the other day, you know, he probably made his fifth Snapchat, but he just added me on Snapchat and we just changed numbers just the other day. So it's like, like I, I don't want the relationship. Not like me and my immediate sibling here in Tennessee, but I still have a line of communication with them. And so it's just him. Like, when can I put them feelings aside and how can I put them feeling aside? Because I mean, it's not easy because like I say it's to a point where right now it's like, why now?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

So has he ever. He's never reached out.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Out. I mean, I think he didn't tried through. Maybe my mom or. Cuz I think my sister, my older sister, which she 34, 35. She. She had more of a relationship with him because her and my mom. My mom and my dad was together when she was coming up. And she's of course older than me, but I think they used to like, talk here and there, especially when I was in college. I think he. He tried to get in contact with me, but it was just like at that point, it was still kind of.

[Will Compton]

You probably felt some type of way.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, like, now that I'm doing well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of what my mindset was.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Have you done therapy yet?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Not. Not. Like, I didn't talk to therapists. I didn't. I didn't talk to therapists. I didn't. You know, that's one thing that I would say as a man. It's like, it was hard because for me, it was like all the stuff that I've been through in life, it's like I feel like I got through it, but not really got through it.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And so it's like when you start actually talking to people. And like my therapy at the time was my uncle. Like, I'm going to him. I'm we sitting on the phone, I'm crying in my uncle. Yeah. I mean, he's not my. He's not a therapist. But I'm saying, you have somebody. That's someone I trusted.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I trust my uncle to take this stuff too. But not everything. Like, I didn't. I don't. I don't. Like, Mahogan could tell you, like, it'd be certain stuff that. And he. For some reason, I don't know what is about him, but like, he'll call me. He was just like, I saw you out there on Sunday. Like I'm watching the game. You didn't look yourself what's going on? And it'd be something actually on my mind before the game.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

To where I'm not thinking that's out there affecting me. But he was like, you didn't seem like yourself to today. Like, like, not this year. But like in the past. He didn't done that to where I'm like, damn. Like, how did you read that about me?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But like I said, just. I think my goal, especially this year, you know, I don't do all that. New year resolution. No, I mean, I don't do all that. But I think the biggest thing is for me this year is do more therapy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

To be able to maybe, like I said, maybe I could go to more therapy and actually talk about that situation to eventually have a sit down with him. So.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, I would. I'm a fan of therapy. I wouldn't. I would for sure. It seems like you're kind of curious about it enough to. Where I can.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah. Like, because it won't be.

[Taylor Lewan]

And you already. It's like just listening you talk about where it's like, you know, I can get past it or I set my feelings aside. Whereas therapy, you. It's like you. They put you back in those spots and you. It's almost like helping equip you with tools to go through all the emotions and feelings that you're actually feeling. Feeling to kind of like get through, get to the other side. And then hopefully it's like it ends up with a no pressure burger. Almost definitely sitting down with your old man.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

But.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, let's see. We'll see.

[Will Compton]

And also just having kids like you, the tools that you learn now that you. That affected you as a child. When your kids go through things, you'll be better equipped to help them through those processes. I had a situation with my mom where I hadn't spoke to her in a long time and I thought, no.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You actually served that. Which me. What's that about your mom?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah. Because I remember. I don't mean to cut you off, but I remember I was looking for some outdoors furniture and I went to the. Is it patio or something like that?

[Will Compton]

Was it in 12 South?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, it was. Right. Going to Titan Motoring.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah, Patio.

[Will Compton]

Yep. Patio furniture.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And I remembered I was like, I met your mom and you kind of went into starting. Like, I don't. In order to, you know, talk to.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, so we had that. That's kind of how the situation was for the last like seven years or something like that. And Will was big on like, hey, you should talk to her. Will has his. A lot of reasons why, but I. I wasn't going to. And I was like so resistant to the idea of it. And then I thought to myself, well, what if my kids ever feel the way I feel about my mom? If I don't do. If I don't have tools, if I don't go fix it now, how am I going to be able to give them the step. Steps to maybe like, hey, this is how I fix my relationship with my parents when I had a problem. And I remember the first time meeting her, dude, like the first 30, not meeting her, but like seeing her for the first time a long time. It was like I just like cried for 30 minutes. Just be like, I hate you.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And then within like an hour after that, it was way better. She's now met my kids and she's been around a little bit. Still parents in the sense that like, all right, Mom, I need. I need 15 minutes. Like, you need to relax a little bit. But it is. It's like, it's refreshing to feel the weight. You didn't realize that was on your own shoulders. And you're like, oh, like, I really was. Whether I was like, getting. Getting through it without getting through it. Like, it's like, takes away. Alleviates a pressure from you that you're like, man, it feels a whole lot better. So just to piggyback off that, it's like, it's nice too.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Kind of work my priority. That's going to be really a big priority for me this all season.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I love therapy and figuring that out.

[Taylor Lewan]

So having a convo with your dad.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Or if you want to call him by. By name.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I am a. I am a junior.

[Will Compton]

So are you really?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

There you go.

[Taylor Lewan]

What else do we have that. Hey, dude, I appreciate you sharing that with. Seriously. Yeah, I do.

[Will Compton]

Listen, this podcast has had a lot of eps and flows.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

It's honestly been a phenomenal.

[Will Compton]

It has. Because a lot of football talk, you're like, all right, we know. We'll get the meat potatoes that we made friends again. Look at us. Probably going to hit catch a lunch date later, grab coffee, talk about our therapy sessions and then all that and.

[Taylor Lewan]

Talking about low key or like our deepest fears. Like our deep, deep, like, insecurities.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, here's how I'm thinking. This is like a goal of mine.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You said go. A gold goal.

[Will Compton]

Goal, go.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, you're like, hey, I gotta.

[Will Compton]

But you brought up gold. What was the gold chain thing?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You wearing one now?

[Will Compton]

No.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Oh, you took it off on.

[Will Compton]

So is this sitting. My sonic is.

[Taylor Lewan]

Was this your rookie year?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think I was. This is year one or year two. I can't remember exactly.

[Taylor Lewan]

But here's what I can envision, you know?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You know, he.

[Taylor Lewan]

He.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Because it was two guys that wore gold necklaces. It was him. I don't know what brand, like, what kind of gold he used to wear. And then Delaney. Delaney used to wear David Yurman. I'm sure he still wear him.

[Will Compton]

That's where I got him too. Delaney used to wear that choke. And I used to see. He used to cut the V. I used to think, my, my God, that goes so hard.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

See what I'm saying? And it's coming back to life, you know? Delaney used to wear that. Just the reason why.

[Will Compton]

So you approach. So you approach me. You're like, taylor, I really look up to you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did you notice Taylor anywhere else he trying to.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Huh?

[Taylor Lewan]

Did you notice. Did you see Taylor give necklaces to.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think he. I think he didn't for sure promise other guy go, go necklace.

[Will Compton]

Damn. I'm not promises. Probably I could.

[Taylor Lewan]

Here's what I could see.

[Will Compton]

I can for sure see this.

[Taylor Lewan]

That time where you ordered a few, did you give Derek one?

[Will Compton]

No. Is that when I gave you one?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's when you gave me one. I don't know if you got DB1. Like, if DB was just in the market for another one and you hooked him up. And then I could just see Jeff, like, just being part of whatever circle was happening, and you just offhant.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It wasn't a year that I was ready to beat your ass, as you say. But I knew I wouldn't. Never. I wouldn't.

[Will Compton]

I like to think of us as hard friends, hard stop, and now we're back to being friends.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But there was a hard stop there for a minute where it was like, yo, if I cross halls with Jeff in, like, the middle of the night, he might get it. Yeah. He might swing on me. I'm duck that shit and think his ass to let him give me two pieces.

[Taylor Lewan]

I could see a situation like that. That happening.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

So it's kind of fleeting, and you're like, if you get.

[Will Compton]

I can see that happening.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean, I know I can't talk much about it. That's gonna get to my point, but I can't talk much about it. And, you know, with the. I don't have no jury right now, Taylor, it'd be a nice gift for you from it.

[Will Compton]

Gold chain.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But you need a gold chain.

[Will Compton]

I would say $23 million a year. Let me get you. Gold chain.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

At this point, when we off the pod. I mean, when. When the camera. I mean, this. But. But at this point, I mean, I don't have no Jerry right now, man. I'm a. I'm a couple things short. So.

[Will Compton]

Did it have to do with Pro Bowls?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

What?

[Will Compton]

This thing, the gold chain thing.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, but I. What I. What I am going to say is the Buckner. I mean, you're not in the locker room, but I don't think no guy in the locker room going to walk up and say, I'm going to buy you a $60,000 AP for making All Pro. 13. All Pro. That's what he get. Y' all see that?

[Taylor Lewan]

No, I didn't see that.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

So it's. I think it's the. I want to say the rookie tight end. I think he made all pro this year. And guess the far Buckner gifted him AP for making all Pro. AP for all Pro.

[Will Compton]

Buddy, it sounds like you have a huge opportunity for leadership in your locker room right now. Well, you talking about guy hasn't played three years.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean so you say you made.

[Will Compton]

All pro and I need to.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, I'm not saying you need to. I should but I mean I'm seeing videos. You grab that throwing 20k on a what the game Bakarat.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. So you consume. You consume more content.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I. I see it like yeah. And then I saw you in Vegas going to high rollers room. When you ignored me, I said Taylor.

[Will Compton]

Hold on, hold on.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I got. I see it but I'm just.

[Will Compton]

What about.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But I'm not saying you have to. I'm not.

[Will Compton]

Would you want to do the tunnel of chaos?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

What's that?

[Will Compton]

That's the gambling. We do it. Dana.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Hell no. From with his money. I ain't, I ain't going in there and take out how much money? How much money estimate to where y' all walk into the room.

[Will Compton]

It's not. We have credit lines.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

The credit lines.

[Will Compton]

So my credit line is 500,000. I got.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

That's. That's not what I'm doing. That's just like, like I didn't, I didn't lost some money in Vegas. Yeah, I didn't like a couple weekends ago. I'm like God damn. All right, that's enough. I'm not going to get no more money. Like I goddamn. But 500k ammo.

[Will Compton]

That's all it's looked at is ammo. You max bet, you win two and you get out. That's the goal. Every time.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And then you do you get out.

[Will Compton]

Well I used to. And then the real my last couple times I've got. I've gotten kind of when I see.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Them videos I'm like, golly, like maybe I just need to get in the room. And that's what I'm saying. But if I around and lose 10k on one bit big buddy, it'll be bigger.

[Will Compton]

You want? You want. I know that's my will's done a tunnel of chaos. He. You were down how much at one night?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

300.

[Will Compton]

300,000. Will was down.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah. I'm let y' all have it.

[Will Compton]

But he came back.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

My financial vows would be calling me like dude, are you losing your mind? Right now.

[JP]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. It's kind of.

[Taylor Lewan]

It was. We made it out, but not without some scar tissue.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I would love to watch it. I'm not.

[Will Compton]

If you. If you ever partook and it went well, that few minutes of being in the tunnel of chaos, it's the most intense situation there'll be in your life.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I guarantee you. I watched the videos. What I'm saying is what if it don't go the way I know.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I know. It's a battle I deal with every day.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like. Yes. Like to win that much. Like I see that dealer word. Flip over seven into two. Like.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Now I just on myself like damn.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And you just like.

[Taylor Lewan]

I gotta.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

And she flip over, buddy.

[Will Compton]

I know that's happened. And it's like how the. Do you have the one hand better than mine, right? The one card better than mine.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You just bet 100k on that hand.

[Will Compton]

God, I wish I could bet on.

[Taylor Lewan]

The K. Well, Dana white, what's max 30.

[Will Compton]

My max at Red Rock is. Is 45 and my max at Caesar's is 50. Dana's at Red Rock is 100. His max at Caesar's palace is 400,000 a hand. What? 400.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Jesus Christ.

[Will Compton]

Bro. I saw. We saw him win 2.8 million. Million.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I'm sweating, bro. Like I would. Don't. I wouldn't.

[Will Compton]

We're short on time. Says Sherman via the computer. So. Do you want the Bud Light question?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. So big Jeff, we know you know how everybody would do anything for an ice cold Bud Light. What is something that Jeff Simmons would do anything for?

[Will Compton]

Can't say. Family.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Anything I would do something for. I mean the nature. You said so not dealing with football. Right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Could.

[Will Compton]

Could do football.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean, I'm not going to say I cut my dick off like Braver did.

[Taylor Lewan]

But that time. It's ticking again.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I think got. Huh.

[Will Compton]

It's.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's back.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I know. I saw y' all posted that too. So. Yes, I do see what y' all be posting. I would say ruining the Super Bowl. I. I think I do pretty much. I wouldn't say.

[Taylor Lewan]

I can't say anything but kind of anything.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, I'm not. No. I know you thinking some gay right now. Thinking some gay. But to win a Super bowl like I. That's something. Playing this game is like. That's something we all dream of. Like this reason why we play this game. Especially on this level.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Cuz the money. I mean the money taking care of itself to win the Super Bowl.

[Will Compton]

Let me ask you a hypothetical.

[Taylor Lewan]

Would you give one of your homies like a peck on the lifts. Just, just.

[Will Compton]

Hey, bro, that's a. That's an easy yes.

[Taylor Lewan]

I mean, just a peck.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

How is that an easy yes to a Super Bowl? You got your boy, my brother. Like, I love you, Doc.

[Will Compton]

Now you just kind of. That's a little extra something else extra.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like, you know, to nobody dap up.

[Will Compton]

And kissing the lips.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

No, no, no, no. I'm saying no, I ain't doing all that at one time. I'm like. But if that mother give me a piece of paper. And they said dap. I mean, what you just say kiss on the lips. Now you. Now you saying kiss is different. Like, you got to really.

[Taylor Lewan]

But you're going like, you got to smoke moves. Like, you go.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Now you can do it to the side.

[Taylor Lewan]

Are you gonna be. You think you'll go eyes open or eyes closed when you do it?

[Will Compton]

That's so funny, because if it's eyes open, it's like, all right. Like you're into it. That is an awesome follow up question, bro. To win a super host a Lombardi trophy in Nashville, Tennessee. The first one ever live in infamy. Probably have a statue outside your building.

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[Jeffrey Simmons]

Super bowl epic, my brother. Yeah, I tell it was me, so. No, I know. I'm not going to lie, though, to know. No, bro, cuz I know what he had it like I a. I know I got my did, but to know what he had in his before he got.

[Will Compton]

We.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

We all. We've been there.

[JP]

Like, I been there.

[Will Compton]

Nobody had it.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But like, then you.

[Will Compton]

Then you.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

You just. Y' all keep putting that in y' all lip, man.

[Will Compton]

Like genie pops out of a bottle. You're in the locker room right before the super bowl. Who jeie and he says, hey, you're going to lose this game unless you kiss this man. All of a sudden, Will Compton pops up. But if you kiss this man, you will win the Super Bowl.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Damn. Blindfold me and we'll bring your ass here.

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[Taylor Lewan]

Not champion.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I can't. It was that, like, fear factor at that point.

[Will Compton]

Johnny Knoxville pops up out of nowhere. Look at that. You know Will would say something right before, too. Here I come, big dog.

[JP]

Give me one.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Happy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Come here, big boy.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Relax. You getting a little too happy.

[Will Compton]

Before we let you go, how much would it hurt to watch Variable win a Super Bowl?

[Jeffrey Simmons]

It wouldn't hurt.

[Will Compton]

It wouldn't. Are you rooting for the Patriots?

[Taylor Lewan]

That's his guy.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I text var yesterday.

[Will Compton]

That's his dad.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, we know.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Listen, what I told him, I said don't. Don't get comfortable. Go fend this. Like, I don't. I mean, I mean VRA been in this sit like my, my rookie year. Like we've been to the AFC championship and he have. Yeah, he have the team to do it. Like, I think Dre may playing some good football young buck up there struggling a little bit. Maybe you could call him Will Campbell. He. He having a listen.

[Taylor Lewan]

He was.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

The last two weekends. I'm like, oh, I feel for him because he seemed like a. We even talked out of the game. Like, he seemed like a good dude. And of course, being a rookie, spotlight on you.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Fourth overall pick.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yes. Like, damn. But I would say like, I'll be happy as hell to see Variable winning a Super bowl with the Tennessee Titans. Fan base, maybe be happy to see it.

[Will Compton]

I think it would.

[Taylor Lewan]

It probably would be. But just be tough. Like damn.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Yeah. Yeah. That's what. That's what I'm saying. They'll be pissed. Like the what ifs.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. The anger would be directed toward the uppers. Yeah.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

But the upper room out of my control. And yeah, like I said, I'll be. I'm gonna be. I'm. I'm happy as hell. Me first year back into coaching. Well, head coaching role to take off what they. What's their record last year? 4 and 12 and yeah. To be going to. Getting ready to play in the FC championship against a quarterback. And now with Buffalo, I mean with Chicago losing yesterday, like, I think he should get coach of the year.

[Will Compton]

So I. Oh, you think you.

[Taylor Lewan]

I mean the two.

[Will Compton]

Johnson. Ben Johnson, he was like fourth in the odds.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean you got him and then you got the guy from Jacksonville. Like.

[Will Compton]

Yes, he turned Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, Kyle Shanahan for the 49ers.

[Taylor Lewan]

Jaguars were 4 and 13 last year, but the Patriots have been 4 and 13 the last two years.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

When you look at Kyle Shanahan, they also just lost. But to take a young second year quarterback back to take a team you just got in to the AFC championship potentially, I don't see Denver beating them.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. It'll be a fun game to watch. It will be throwing Knicks out now, that's. That sucks.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

Like which I also. I go back to that game. I feel like the Broncos that's. It's not just B Bo Nicks. I feel like that's a system offense so Jerus De can come in and just.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, may like. Yeah, I'm sure he'll have. He will be what's the word I'm looking for.

[Will Compton]

Competitive.

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[Jeffrey Simmons]

I mean, I'm not saying he's not.

[Taylor Lewan]

Gonna come up slinging the rock around.

[Jeffrey Simmons]

He was. But I just feel like because of that type of offense, you could put Stipman in and have some success. But it's a defense that's nasty. And that's why I said if they can block, block that front and really they're gonna be the run game. You got to be able to run run the ball just late as you know, like you got to run the ball this late. But to answer your question, I'd be excited. I'm not going. There's no hate towards. Yeah, towards various. So I'll be happy to hear to see him win.

[Will Compton]

Oh, Luke's here. Perfect. Hey, we got a wrap. Jeff, thank you so much.

[Taylor Lewan]

Phenomenal episode. Phenomenal episode.

[Will Compton]

Appreciate you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Big hug, tiny kisses.

[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

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