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Bo Jackson
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Bo Jackson
All right, we're good.
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Busting with the Boys Host
Busing with the boys, hanging with the fellas, betting on a game. No woman's gonna tell us what to do and I bet over here just drinking beer and making that noise, baby. I'm hanging with the fellas busing with the boys, bro.
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Busting with the Boys Announcer
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
We have a legend, some worlds. Arguably. It's a debate in our world. It's not a debate. The greatest athlete of all time, Bo Jackson.
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Busting with the Boys Announcer
Bo Jackson on bus with the boys.
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Bo Jackson
Hello, hello, Hello.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
This camera guy didn't clap. It's okay. I'm just giving him a hard time. But hey, you. Sounds like you've been through the ringer a little bit. You walked in here, you're like, this
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Bo Jackson
is the second day, second day, non
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
stop, non stop, all day.
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Bo Jackson
Balls to the wall.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
What is. What has been on your schedule the last few days? And if you don't mind, what has
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Bo Jackson
been on my schedule? If you look at my hat, that bk.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Burger King, that.
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Bo Jackson
Hell no. Wouldn't need it if you paid me. This is Bo Knows Men's Health.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
You're starting your own pod with.
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Bo Jackson
Yeah, I'm starting my own podcast. And. And 90% of the country would say, oh, it's going to be another sports podcast. Nah, been there, done that, know how to do that. This is on Men's Health for the simple reason, and I say this, you guys are young, but I'll give you four or five years from now, you're going to be going to get your prostate check and doing all this and so forth and so on, and they're going to get to the point to where you're up three, four times a night, going to take a leak. That's what happens when you get old?
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
So that's what you got for it. That's what you got to look forward to. Me, myself, I want to use my. My platform, my name, my rep, my. My recognition to promote bo nose men self. Because what we do as men. Well, I'm gonna ask you this question, and that's for both of you. What's the first thing come to your mind if your doctor come out and told you you got prostate cancer?
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
How much time do I have left?
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Yeah, probably.
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Bo Jackson
Or he says that you're in the beginning stages of prostate cancer. It's not. But it's not bad. But you have to have your. You got to have your prostate taken out and then you research it and look at everything.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
How did I.
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Bo Jackson
And the thing that you do well, probably genetics, because you go back and look at your great grandfather, your grandfather, your dad, your uncles, find out that, Find out like that. But the thing about it, most men think show you how small our minds are as men, because we're all like this, we all have this fault, is that the doctor come and tell you, hey, you're in the beginning stage of prostate cancer. You. You can either treat it or take it out. Most guys, without thinking, is going to say, let's try to treat it. Because if you know what your prostate do, it controls everything that you do as far as sex, everything. Sperm produce all of that. Erections and so forth and so on. So we're gonna think, oh, there goes my sex life. That goes my sex life. I'll be on ed drugs for the rest of my life. That's how the small part of our mind thinks, right? And so instead of thinking like this, I need to get that taken out so I can spend time with my family, with my kids. I want to be around so I can hear the word papa, I want to go to papa's house. Papa want to take some fishing and so forth, so on. Well, I'm at that stage. Not only that, colon cancer, prostate cancer runs in my family. So I was going to get it regardless of how many football I football games I play, how many touchdowns, how many home runs I hit, period. But we, as men, we never talk about that. When the last time you sit around with your guys after either hunting or fishing or golfing, and say, man, you know, last night I was up four or five times pissed because my prostate won't let me sleep. We don't talk about that.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Or if you did it, we're sitting here laughing, joking.
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Bo Jackson
Absolutely. Because you don't take it serious.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Right?
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Bo Jackson
But if you're serious about it. And so we don't talk about it because we don't want our buddies or the public to. To look at us as not being strong or we got a cheek in our arm and we're not that alpha male that every. Everybody perceives me as because we're weak. That's not. That's not the case. If you ask your girlfriends, your wives, your. Your. Your mom's aunt, they go to lunch in order to wine and dip and talk about all their issues. They talk about breast cancer, they talk about incontinence, they talk about menopause, they talk about everything. But we, as men, we don't talk about that because it's taboo. I want to use my platform to peel the layers off of that onion so we can talk about it. I want to set up my podcast to where I could take it on the rope and travel and go into different cities, get one of my buddies that I played with or played against, either in the NFL or the Major League Baseball, have them to get his personal doctors. Get your. Get your cardiologist, your gastroenterologist. Get your. Who else? Your orthopedic surgeon. Get all your doctors, your urologist, proctologist, sitting on the stage with you and tell them, look, we're going to have you here to talk to this crowd of men, to talk to this big audience. And what we want from you, we will advertise you and your business and your clinic or your hospital. But what you got to give us is that you got. You got to help take care of these gentlemen out here who can't afford to pay for a PSA test because somebody may not have the insurance that we have. We got to get the audience to attend. And if they attend, it'll cost them from anywhere from one to ten bucks. No more than that. And that money stays in a fund for that area to help pay for their psa, to help pay for their colonoscopies and make. And make it easier for guys to sit around and talk. Instead of just talking about the football game and talk about this. Let's take a page from the women's book, their playbook. Let's. Let's sit down and go to dinner and talk about our problem. How many times have you watched TV or you're on your computer and a Ed commercial comes up? Damn near every time you turn it on, right? Yeah, but we don't talk about that. I have my prostate taken up in October.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
This past October.
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Bo Jackson
This past October, I had My prostate taken up. I never for once set up and said, oh, nope, I don't want to do it because it's going to ruin my sex life. It's going to do this or do that. The first thing I thought about was my family, wife, kids, grandkids. Why should I be selfish and cheat them out of the future? Right. I said, get that taken out, get it out of me so I won't be looking over my shoulder. Because if you decide to treat it with radiation, there's a 99% chance that it's going to come back. It may not come back within one or two years, but five, six years down the road, it's going to re its head again. And when it does, it's going to have gone from your prostate to your bones, your bones to your lungs or liver, then to your brain, and then it's over. And so I buried my brother in law just two weeks ago because it happened in that order.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Really?
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Bo Jackson
Yeah.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
It's interesting about prostate as well too because like it seemed like it's like men over 40, right? That's when you get your, the prostate exam. They get the, well, two fingers up there and they do those two fingers
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Bo Jackson
get, get the PSA test done. Yeah. Where they draw blood. And that's a real what. And that's so. And that's a real, real way to check your psa.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
Go get the blood work done. They send it off and then they combine your, your numbers from your PSA test with what they call your Gleason score.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Okay.
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Bo Jackson
Now I don't know what the hell the Gleason score is because I'm not a doctor.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Totally fair.
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Bo Jackson
But it combines both of them. And if it's in the high six or seven or above, you need to
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
get something done, get something figured out. It's so interesting because like the prostate is something like he's 36, I'm 34. And they're like, it's, it's 40, right. Is that when they say you should get your prostate?
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Bo Jackson
They say 40. But if, if it runs in your family. Yeah, you probably need to get it checked. Bed 440. Well, you have to be on the safe side.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
That's the thing that's going on right now is it seems like rates in younger men are having prostate issues sooner
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Bo Jackson
than the age of 40.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
And so we sit here and we hear the number of 40. 40, 40. Kind of. Wait till then. I had a guy that I put with in high school and in college and he was the healthiest one of all of us. He passed away a couple years ago because of prostate cancer.
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Bo Jackson
That's what I'm saying.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Same age as, same as me. So he's like, what, 32 at the time.
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Bo Jackson
Check out this. When I was 20 years old, I'm in the prime of my life. I could whoop King Kong's ass, buddy.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
I was watching film before,
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Bo Jackson
and the thing about it, I woke up one morning, went to the bathroom, used the bathroom. I'm getting ready for class. This is on a Friday. We had a game on Saturday. I get up, go to the bathroom, get up to flush the store. There's blood in the stool. Oh, shit. Scared the hell out of me. Go tell the trainer, tell the head trainer. He said, all right, well, I'm gonna call the doctor, we're gonna set up something and you. All right now, we're gonna play the game tomorrow after the game tomorrow, but I'm gonna give you this package. This is Madison. I want you to mix it with a gallon of water and drink it and drink it all. Give me two gallons. You can't have anything to eat after noon. So from noon on, I'd start myself and drink this crappy stuff. And it flushed me out, blew the toilet up from 4 o' clock that even till the next morning when I went to the doctor. Yeah, I got liquid clear liquid coming out of me. Go to and they do my first colonoscopy. They find a polyp that was benign. And if you know the story behind Chadwick Boseman, the Black Panther actor, he passed away at 43 from colon cancer. Nobody knew he kept a secret to pass away from colon cancer. So if I had ignored like, like we all do as young, young guys who think we, that, that we are invincible. Invincible. We know everything. If I just say, oh, that's probably nothing, so I'm not going to bother, I wouldn't be here right now.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And since then, I guarantee to you that I've had at least 15 colonoscopy. I just had one last month.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And I get one now because I'm 63. I get one every three years.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Really?
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Bo Jackson
Because in 10 years you can grow a cantaloupe inside of you and don't even know it. And don't even know. So that's why I'm using my, that's why I'm using my, my platform to help educate men. Because we do. Women educate each other because they sit down and talk about it. We don't do that because we're too narrow minded and we're thinking, oh, I don't want somebody talking about me or laughing at me. I don't want friends talking about me. Oh, I can't get it up. Trust me, guys, I'm talking from proof. I've been down that road. Cause the first thing guys think is, hey, there goes my sex life. I can't get a hard on anymore. They got shit out there now that'll make Vigra look like a chump. But, and, but, and the thing about it, but, and I say that in a laughing matter. But that shouldn't be the first thing you think about or the second or third. It should be. For me it was. I have a four year old grandson and a two year old grandson and it's the best gift God has ever given me. And I want to be around and watch them play in the first Little League baseball game, their soccer, their taekwondo classes. That's what I want to be around for. My grandson just sent me a picture yesterday. He got an acceptance letter. Now he's four, he got an acceptance letter to go to kindergarten at the big school where all the big kids go. And he, and he's happy. Like he just got a full ride at Harvard. Yeah, but that's what makes me happy now. Sports. I haven't attended a football game or a Super bowl since Troy Aikman and the Dallas Cowboys won their second super bowl with Troy. And the only reason I'm here is to get this out to the public. Yeah, because I figured, hey, there's no better time than to do this now because the super bowl, everybody watch it. But hell, 90% of the viewers are men, right? And this is a good time to let the country know that, hey, it's okay to talk about this.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Right?
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Bo Jackson
Don't sit up and keep it balled up inside. Because as they say, pressure will bust a pipe. If enough pressure builds up, it'll bust a pipe. And for, for me, I don't think I was put on this earth to be one of the greatest football players or baseball players. I was put on this earth to share messages like this. Period. It's not about the fame. I'm over. I'm over that. This is the first, this is the first public thing that I've done since I got a professional sports and to come out and let people know something personal like that, just about me. That should tell you, hey, if this guy can do this and we seldomly see him or hear him, it should be easier for everybody else to say, hey, I'm having prostate issues. I'm having colon issues. I'm having, I found, I feel a lump in my chest. Right. We, we don't call it breast. But men have breast cancer, period. Yeah, men have breast cancer. And I didn't know that till a couple years ago. But to let guys know, hey, there's an avenue for you to sit and talk about this. This isn't conversation for just you and your doctor. This is for you to spread with your friends. When I find out about my prostate, I call all my buddies from high school, college, everybody on the baseball team, we, we, we got on a zoom call. And half of my teammates already having prostate issues or I've had their prostate removed, but nobody knew. Talk to my teammates from the pros, from baseball and football told them the same thing because it needs to be known.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
I think it's powerful too, because again, it's like Bo Jackson. Everybody who has this idea of Bo Jackson. Do you ever. I assume you do because you talked about being over fame. Like, does it. It's gotta just be exhausting knowing that everything that you've done on both the diamond and the football field, that's what people always want to talk to you about.
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Bo Jackson
I hope. Now when people want to talk, they want to talk about these issues.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Do you ever enjoy reliving or talking about old, you know, old memories and everything that you accomplish on the, on the field?
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Bo Jackson
Only when people ask me about them and fireside chats, so forth and so on. Yeah. Now on my grandson, I was gonna say I talked to him about it.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And they make me watch my highlights, which I hate because I've seen them a hundred zillion times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They want to watch them over and over. They don't want to watch your hat over your leg. My grandsons can mimic, can mimic me in all my highlights.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Really.
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Bo Jackson
They get the ball, break the bat over the head.
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Busting with the Boys Announcer
That's got over their knees.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
That's got to put a smile on your face.
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Bo Jackson
Throw out Hammer Reynolds. Then they imitate Harold sitting on the ground throwing his helmet. Yeah, they do all of that and they're two and four years old.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Is there a highlight of theirs that is like their favorite?
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Bo Jackson
Believe it or not, it's not of me.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Really.
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Bo Jackson
Guess who's up?
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Will Compton.
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Bo Jackson
It's a Aaron Judge. When he hit his record breaking home run.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And he went around the bases, he's waving. Then he went to the fence and waved to his family up in the stands. My grandson can mimic him to a T. He'll hit the Ball first, take out. He's go around the base, then he'll do that little Aaron Judge dance. Yeah, yeah, he'll do at home plate. And he runs over to the wall, to the curtains, and he's waving to Aaron Judge's parents and he come back, then he said, papa, I don't want them boys to pour water on my head.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
Because his teammates come out with the water and that's on it.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
He likes everything but the water poured on his head.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Fair enough.
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Bo Jackson
So that's what I enjoy doing now.
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Busting with the Boys Announcer
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And if I can reach out and touch one person, I figured that I've done my job. But I plan on reaching out to me.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
I plan on touching millions.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
Because we all need this.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Absolutely.
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One store, one store, one tail lore. It's rumored it's out. It's. People talk about it like you're, you know, you're in the Old Testament times and you just got to gather around and you listen to grandpa tell a story about one time a Bo Jackson ran a. What was it? A 4.1 40.
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Bo Jackson
Like I 413 4.
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Busting with the Boys Announcer
And that's true, True, as we're saying,
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
the rain, the 413 ran out of the stadium.
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Bo Jackson
This was a combine at the time.
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TurboTax Representative
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Bo Jackson
But combines back then was where the people at the combine, that they would come to your college and invite all the colleges, the athletes from 100, 200 miles away. We had it at Auburn because that year I was going to be a first round draft pick and I didn't go to some big combine at the Superdome or wherever because if you're the first round draft pick, if you know you're going to be number one, you don't have to go to combine. So. And I was on the track team. I was on my way to track practice. In my job, in track practice, my track coach said, if you can catch Harvey Glantz, you don't have to track practice. Harvey Glantz won the gold medal. He was the fastest man in the world. Auburn graduate in 1976. So it's 82. So he's at least nine, 10 years older than me. And I never caught him. Coach said, if you catch Harvey, you don't have to track practice. And I chase him every day. Couldn't catch him. So it was like a 18 wheeler chasing a Ferrari.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And I never. And I never caught his ass. But I was on my way to track practice and everybody had to come by and sit up in our indoor practice facility. It was about 60 yards long and they had it set up with electronic tape on the ground, a laser light down at the end. But they only had about from here to the wall in that room, stopping this. So they told me to ring. They. They told me to run. And my coach said, bo, please come in and run for these guys. They are here because they want to get your 40. All these other kids are here because they're trying to make it to where. Where you are. Just come running the 40. Because I'm tired of these people calling my fucking phone. You was just calling me all night.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
So you're hanging out, you're at track practice, and your coach is just bugging you about.
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Bo Jackson
But I'm on my way to track practice, right? So I had to pass the facility where they were getting ready to sit up for today. So I said, all right. I went in and I saw where they were, and I got up and I got down and took off. And I say, from here to the finish line, which is to the wall, I let up, cruise through, ran a 4, 2, 6. And the guys with the only thing I said, he slowed up five yards. He slowed up five yards from the thing. So the coach said, both. Please run through the fucking tape so I can get these guys out of my head.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
Cause I don't want them calling my phone. They're pissing my wife off. They waking up all time of night, six in the morning. Cause they trying to wonder where the fuck you are. Please do it for me. If you love me, run the fucking 40 and run through the tape. I said, I'm not gonna run. I said, because if I try to stop, I'm gonna tear something up. He said, well, we'll open the fucking door. And that door hadn't been open since I've been at Auburn. I was there, that door. And they cleared all the crap back, and they opened that back door. And I went and got down and I told my guy, my teammate on the track, who was a high jumper, I said, will you get my bag? And just gonna start walk walking towards the track. Cause when I break this tape here and run this, I'm gonna keep going to the track. And I got down and pow. Out the blocks. And everybody. Everybody had stopwatches.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
And the electronic tape was by itself. So all. Everybody that had a stopwatch had me under 4 1. Electronics. Some guys had. Had, had. Some guys had me at 39-3954, flat 41 in the tape set. When I crossed the laser line, it was flashing 4, 1, 3. And I kept going so you did.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
So when did you find out that you ran a 413? Because clearly you didn't try to practice.
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Bo Jackson
They came up to the track practice and they said, hey, what do you think you ran? What do you think you ran? I said, I don't know. They said, you ran a 413. I said, all right. They said, all right. They said, ain't nobody ever run a fucking four four one three. And you say, it's all right. And I said something to the fact, look, I got bigger fisher fry like trying to catch this motherfucker over here. So I went to practice.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
I'm trying to not do track practice.
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Public Investing Representative
That's all you're thinking about.
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Bo Jackson
I'm trying to get out of track practice. But that never happened. But the 413 story is true, is factual.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
So when you see at the combine, and for the longest time it was Chris Johnson, right. He was 4, 2 9. And then the cat that went to Cincinnati, I'm pretty sure his name, he was John Ross. Yeah, he broke that. You're watching everybody argue on the NFL Network about, oh, the fastest 40 time and you're sitting there just with your grandkids like these guys don't even know that.
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Bo Jackson
Well, I'm saying it sits sitting there saying, well, I didn't say it, but if the arrogant side of me. Yeah. Which is okay. The 21 year old side of me.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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Bo Jackson
Would have said, he's still looking at the bottom of my cleats because he's crossing fence line. I'm down there slowing down. So I didn't cross it.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
But I said it was kind of hard.
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Bo Jackson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I would have said. But. But no, I tilt my hat to the young man for running a 426. Yeah, I took my hat to him. But I know what I did. I wish somebody from that, that was there at that combine, they're probably all dead, but I wish that they would come out and say, hey, I was there when he ran the 41 3.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
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No one ever came out and said anything.
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Bo Jackson
I don't know who they are because I didn't care. Because I was on. Because I told you I had bigger fish to fry. Yeah, yeah.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
You're probably the first man in history to be the number one overall pick and sit there and be like, yeah, I don't care about that. I have to go to track practice.
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Bo Jackson
I gotta go to track practice.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah. We were at Radio Row today and we were walking around doing a little bit of media here and There. And I heard a story about you, how when you were growing up, you wanted to go to the University of Alabama.
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Bo Jackson
Yep.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
And your visit to Alabama is why you went to Auburn.
- [30:33]
Bo Jackson
The coach came to my house to visit with me and my mom. And we were expecting Coach Bryant to come up. And he told me Coach Bryant had a family emergency here to go down to. So they sent the defense coordinator, Ken Donahue, and I just come in from a baseball game. I come through the front door. I walk in, I see my mom sitting at the dining table. This old white guy. I speak, go downstairs and do my laundry, get my baseball uniform out to wash it like we do. Cause I got a game the next day. He comes down. He said, vincent. They called me Vincent. Vincent. My name's Coach Ken Donahue. I'm the defensive coordinator at the University of Alabama. First of all, I want to apologize because Coach Bryant couldn't make it because he had a family emergency he had to go tend to. He said. But I want to tell you that we. We. We would love to have you in Tuscaloosa. We think you'll fit in great. We'll think you'll be successful. But my honest opinion is that I don't think you get a chance to play till the end of your sophomore, the beginning of your junior season. And we know the only other place you want to go to that you are looking at is Auburn, because you want to stay close to home so your family can come see you play. Then he said, this young man, let me tell you something about Auburn. I said. He said, auburn hasn't beat Alabama since 1972. This was 1982. And then he said, and they never will. So I shook his hand, like. Because he said, vincent, I'm gonna go back upstairs and talk to your mother. So he shook my hand, and I'm smiling, but inside I'm saying to myself, you gotta be a fucking fool if you think I'm gonna come to your universe and ride the bench for two fucking years and not play.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
He's still gotta.
- [32:28]
Busting with the Boys Announcer
He's still.
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Bo Jackson
That's what I'm saying. To my.
- [32:30]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
He's got a strong grip. As he relives it, he's getting tighter and tighter.
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Busting with the Boys Announcer
My God.
- [32:35]
Bo Jackson
Damn. But that's what I'm saying to myself.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
- [32:40]
Bo Jackson
And I remember his last words. And they never will, and they never. In my freshman year, Auburn signed 11 running backs. They signed the number one running back in the state.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
That's insane.
- [32:52]
Bo Jackson
And I wasn't. And I think I was the fifth top Running back that they claim I was. But come they let me in the game one time. And I say this to all kids who is competing in sports. If you go out for a position, somebody's in front of you, you should have one goal on your mind is to take his job. I don't care who he is. It's a take his job. And I told him, you put me in the game. I'm gonna make it hard as hell for you to ever want to take me out. And that's what I live by. And I got in the game this second possession, first quarter against Wake Forest my freshman year. I lit him up like a Christmas tree. And I've been doing that. But. And not saying that from a bragging standpoint, but I try to teach young kids today, you should have one goal is to make it to the top and stay there. I said my mental aspect of the game was when I stepped across that white line on the football field to go on the football field or stepped across that white line on the baseball field, in my mind, I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Ain't no dog is bigger than me on the field or badder than me. That's it. That's the way I live my life in sports. Not saying it's about me, but this dog is gonna make it to where my. All my teammates, my other dog can run around the ballpark. Cause I'm gonna make sure that I'm the baddest dog in the park.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Kind of going right now. So how were you on the field? Were you like internally as the baddest dog on the field? Were you sit just kind of quiet, keep to yourself or you're a talker.
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Bo Jackson
Quiet before the storm. Yeah, quiet. Quiet before. What about never talk when the storm's happening?
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Ryan Reynolds
What about.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
What about other dogs are barking when the other.
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Bo Jackson
I let them bark.
- [34:49]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Let them bark.
- [34:50]
Bo Jackson
Because it's just bark. Yeah.
- [34:51]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
People walk up, boom.
- [34:52]
Bo Jackson
Bark ain't never bark has never harmed anybody.
- [34:56]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
What if they try to bite you?
- [34:59]
Bo Jackson
My bites bigger. Kind of doing so right now.
- [35:03]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
So you were unfazed by the talk?
- [35:05]
Bo Jackson
No.
- [35:05]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Someone walked up to you boat you a. You're not going to do anything today.
- [35:08]
Bo Jackson
Speak with my actions. That's all.
- [35:13]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Dude kind of scared now.
- [35:14]
Yeah, I'm kind of nervous. We're sitting with Bo Jackson. You can imagine that type of swagger, confidence that this player would have, especially when they're like a. A dual sport athlete. Like, do we feel like there's ever going to Be a dual sport athlete again, like in your mind as you
- [35:31]
Busting with the Boys Announcer
sit back and see guys, special guys.
- [35:33]
Bo Jackson
Not for football, baseball. Not for football, baseball. If you try to do both, you're going to be mediocre in both. You'll never be able to start at both positions.
- [35:44]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
What made it to where you were a Pro Bowler and an All Star in both of those sports?
- [35:51]
Bo Jackson
The heart, the fight. Heart, the fight.
- [35:54]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Was it hard to juggle both?
- [35:56]
Bo Jackson
No. No.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
See, here's the problem. Will, let me just tell you something right now. We brought Bo back to that mindset right now, and now he's just thinking to himself, I don't gotta say a whole lot. I have my actions.
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Yeah.
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That are speaking. We've lost him. We've lost him to the darkness right now. So we've lost.
- [36:18]
Bo Jackson
We. But I'll tell you one, one story. Then I'm gonna let you fellas go because I'm tired. Monday night, Monday Night Football against Raiders against Seattle. My college roommate who blocked for me for four years, was backup fullback to John L. Williams for CLC Tommy ag. And that's the week that the Seattle fans made a big to to do out of Bo versus Bosworth. Brian Bosworth, baddest guy in the NFL.
- [36:54]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yep.
- [36:55]
Bo Jackson
So called bad guy in the NFL. He had the mohawk with the pink and red hair. They had the tattoos and everything. And he was jacked and box where he got to be famous. And I'll tell you that he was smart because that Persona he put on made him a ton of money.
- [37:14]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Right?
- [37:16]
Bo Jackson
The bad guy.
- [37:16]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
- [37:17]
Bo Jackson
The rebel, the heel. I'm gonna hit you even if you run out of boundaries. That's him. Take the 15 yard penalty. I don't care. But I'm gonna teach you, you can't run away from me. And I like that. In the whole week, they talk, Bosworth talk. I'm down in LA with the Raiders. They said, bo, yeah. No, I don't have nothing to say now. That week leading up to the game, Wednesday before the game, now I'm not exaggerating this and I'm not lying. Swear on my mother's grave. The Thursday before that game, on Monday night, three things happened. First thing happened was I told my wife she was pregnant with our second child. And she didn't believe me. She got a pregnant test two days later and she was pregnant. She said, how did you know that? No, I'm serious. And then I went back and said, and just being arrogant because it's just me and her in the room, I said that Bo knows shit. I said, it's true. So that's just me that the first thing happened. Yeah. The second thing that happened that game was November 30, 1987, my 26th birthday. On that day, the third thing that happened, I celebrated my birthday. Me and my Raider teammates by blowing the asshole out of the Seahawks.
- [38:59]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Owned them.
- [39:01]
Bo Jackson
Oh, owned them. Folded them up and putting them in our pockets. But at the end of the game, we have a. Sam, what do you want to do with these guys? By the end of the same, we want to have their souls in our hands. Stuffing them in the pocket. By the fourth quarter, we want to kill the will. Kill their will to even play us. They don't want to play us no more. And the icing on the cake was when I truck Bosworth down on the goal line because they've been talking all day, but. And it worked out good. Now the first play that I ran two series before, I had the 90 something yard run. We ran that play and I cut it back because I'm using all my peripheral vision. I never looked here. I'm looking here, I'm looking at you and I'm looking at this guy here, but I'm looking this way. So I'm looking. So I see my. So I was notorious for cutting back and eating you up. My offensive coordinator, Terry. Terry, Terry Robisky.
- [40:07]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Terry Bisky, coordinator of the Titans, but
- [40:10]
Bo Jackson
we call him Biscuit. We basically come on, said Bo. He said, we gonna run that play two series from now. We gonna run that same play, keep it outside. And I promise you, you take it outside, you gonna bust their ass wide open. And we was back like on the 7 yard line, was it 7, 6, 6 yard, 6 yard line or something? He said, keep it outside. And I did and went, went to Tacoma, asked what's his name, said he's not gonna stop till he get get to Tacoma. And they had the door open to the lunar stadium. That's the only way I stopped they had. And in the tunnel there's about 30, 40 yards. I went three quarters of the way down that tunnel, turned around and come back. Most of the defense, all of the kicking game was in the tunnel clapping for me, hugging me, cheering me on and so forth and so on. And then I think I caught a pass for a touchdown. And then the pay that put the nail in their coffin that killed their spirits was when I truck Boss down on the three yard line.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Did he say anything to you after the game?
- [41:24]
Bo Jackson
No, but with me being young, but I lied this is a lie. So I'm saying it to you right now. But I wanted to say, next time, have bus fare, motherfucker. But I didn't. That's just the trash side of me talking. Because, as you know, we talk trash the whole game. We talk trash the whole game. But that night, that week was probably the best week of my sports career because of the pregnancy of my wife, my birthday, and all my family and friends back home got to see me work.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
- [42:03]
What was, what was your relationship. Relationship like with Terry Robisky in 2016? He was. He was our office coordinator at the Titans, and he was. His personality is incredible. He could sit there and tell stories.
- [42:14]
Bo Jackson
But I just did a piece with him last year about his book.
- [42:17]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Oh, really?
- [42:17]
Bo Jackson
That's awesome.
- [42:18]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
- [42:18]
Bo Jackson
Yeah.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
At what age do you feel like you're you. You kind of do something outside, whatever it is, where you're like, you just. You have the conversation with yourself. You're like, I don't got it anymore.
- [42:29]
Bo Jackson
Oh, hell. I said say that. I say that when I left the toilet seat.
- [42:35]
Busting with the Boys Announcer
But all the ability you had in the morning.
- [42:37]
Bo Jackson
Yes, I was. I'd have to say, I set up a thing now. And I say to myself, you was a shit at one time and you woke up this morning and you felt like you got run over by the herd of cattle. And I have. And I asked my wife, did you beat me with a sledgehammer last night while I was asleep? Arms hurt. My elbow. Can't sleep because this shoulder hurts. Got an artificial shoulder here. Artificial hip, prostate surgery, colonoscopy. I'm a mess. I'm a mess.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
I know. We had two. I got one more question. We'll hit you with the Bud Light question. What do you say to people when everyone's argued by the greatest athlete of all time? Like your name and Deion Sanders name comes up quite a bit. What do you think when people are arguing for Deion Sanders? Knowing the mindset you have, and I know you're not going to say it publicly, but what do you think?
- [43:35]
Bo Jackson
Everybody have their own opinion. I would never say I'm the better athlete because that's not my mentality. I'm gonna always compliment somebody else, period. Dion Sander was great at what he did. He's in the hall of Fame. I love him for that. We are friends and I'm quite sure I'm gonna go to Colorado and get him on my podcast because with him having his bladder.
- [44:05]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
- [44:06]
Bo Jackson
Cancer. And my prostate issue, we'll have an award winning podcast.
- [44:11]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Hell yeah, two. Two. The two greatest to do it on. You know, playing both baseball and football, you guys having a conversation with all the hell stuff going on.
- [44:19]
Bo Jackson
Absolutely. So that's where I am. And I say this. I was good for the sports when I played, but those sports was great for Bo Jackson. It's allowed me to be here with you all. It's allowed me to provide for my family. It's allowed me to do things for the public that nobody knows about. I can go do things in the shadows and put some sunshine in somebody's life and leave and nobody know the difference. And I love that. I love that part of me. I love. I love being private. I don't have to be out there. Look at me. Hey, this is me. I hate that a lot of people, I've been living in my community in Illinois for almost 35 years, and I drive my Dodge dually to the service station that's a mile up the street. And I'm not you. Somebody will walk up to me and say, you like that fellow Bo Jackson? Then he said, damn it, you are. What the hell are you doing in Illinois? I live a mile down the road. No, nobody knows it. The people that see me often is my buddies that I hunt with, fish with, and the people down on the golf course.
- [45:39]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
That's awesome.
- [45:40]
Bo Jackson
That's who see me the most.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
That's awesome. We have a segment sponsored by Bud Light, because people would do anything for a nice cold Bud Light. But what is something that Bo Jack would do anything for?
- [45:51]
Bo Jackson
What is something or someone that I do anything for?
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Something Bo Jackson would do anything for?
- [45:56]
We're gonna put a wrinkle in it, too. Can't say family.
- [45:59]
Bo Jackson
All right. I would do anything to keep. No, I can't say that because I'm starting the podcast. All right. And it can't be anything with the family.
- [46:19]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
No, no, no. Well, we give you. If you can't. Anything. We can give you family.
- [46:24]
Bo Jackson
Put it to you like this.
- [46:25]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
If you have a favorite grandchild, you know, I want them to be. We'll take that.
- [46:29]
Bo Jackson
But I would. I would give my life. I would give my life. If I can hug and kiss my mom again. Period. Period.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
That's a good one.
- [46:50]
It's a really good one.
- [46:52]
Bo Jackson
That's it.
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Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Yeah.
- [46:55]
Bo Jackson
Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. We really appreciate you. Thank you, man.
- [46:57]
Busting with the Boys Co-Host
Thank you. Get you some sleep.
- [46:59]
Bo Jackson
Thank you all for having me.
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