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Taylor Lewan
All right, we're good.
Clay Matthews
Be like busing with the boys hanging with the fellas betting on a game no woman's gonna tell us what to do and I bet just drinking beer and making that noise baby I'm hanging.
Delaney Walker
With the fellas busting with the boys bro.
Will Compton
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Delaney Walker
Great read.
Will Compton
Thank you.
Delaney Walker
Great trophy in front of your face. Larry o' Brien trophy is here. So how did this happen? Who reached out to who? Larry reached out to us.
Clay Matthews
Larry himself.
Delaney Walker
Larry himself reached out to us.
Taylor Lewan
Larry reached out to us on one of my gmails and then we, we made it happen. We hopped on a zoom call with the squad and I loved the NBA. When I was a kid, I loved the NBA more than any other sport. So to see it here, dream come true.
Delaney Walker
God, it's beautiful.
Will Compton
Gotta replicate all the photos of the.
Delaney Walker
Got to, have to, have to. Don't have a choice one way or the other. That thing, by the way, sneaky heavy. Sneaky heavy thing right there. 30 pounds. The weight distribution is a little bit crazy. I'm very surprised. Kevin Durant was able to lift that thing up after only doing185.0 times.
Will Compton
All the championship winners that have touched this trophy, it is. We're sitting with history right now.
Delaney Walker
Right. And by the way, you know who.
Will Compton
Else is a champion?
Delaney Walker
Who's a champion?
Will Compton
Clay Matthews.
Delaney Walker
Our guest, Clay Matthews.
Will Compton
Yes, sir.
Clay Matthews
Yes, sir. Thank you.
Delaney Walker
Great setup. And there's something else to set up, too. Massive news in the bus with the boys universe this fall. The locker room, myself, Will Compton, Delaney Walker, and our fourth chair, consistent fourth chair, will be none other than super bowl champion with beautiful hair, Clay Matthews as well. There he is. He will love you, Clay.
Will Compton
And week out.
Delaney Walker
Dude, fired up, fired up. It just turns. It turns into, I meet you at a charity event. We talk. I have sparkles in my eyes talking to V. Clay Matthews, the guy who gave me my welcome to the NFL moment, to getting you on the bus. You're so scared to come on the bus. You have to bring your brother at one time. Then all of a sudden, you get on, you come in the locker room. You loved it. You're about it. Like, I want. I know we're just hanging out. This is just the boys hanging out today, but I do want to talk about the process on of having you come and, like, be a part of the locker room with us, because it is awesome.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, well, I mean, like I told you coming on the first time, I've always been real reserved with the media. I just. I like to separate my public and private life. That's why I don't really speak about, you know, my wife and kids and. And kind of our day to day operations, which is the exact opposite of you guys. You got Will farting in the mic, you know, you just doing your thing, so. But yeah, I. Man, what was great about the podcasting world and just being a part of this is that there's. It's a comfortable environment where you kind of just speak your mind. There's no producer in your ear talking about best dressed or, you know, other hot button topics.
Delaney Walker
Some guys, hey, 30 seconds. They're coming to you next. Yeah, they tend to your turn to talk.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. So. And then I had. I had a great time doing the locker room and just, I mean, you. You presented the offer to me and I jumped on it. So I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll be a good. A good mix of the boys.
Will Compton
Was it the little. The little popper that brought you back?
Clay Matthews
No, that made me want to demand. You know, I still feel Bad. Guaranteed compensation. Yeah, yeah, but that's tennitis tinnitus.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, we need some injury.
Will Compton
We need some injury guarantees in this deal.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, no doubt. But, dude, it was awesome. Like, having you on the first time and knowing you don't do a whole lot of media was just cool to kind of dive into that. The USC world, the packers, all that stuff. And then to see your curiosity and then the locker room and then seeing how much like how prepared you are as a human. Like when we're. Hey, you should come in the locker room. We talk about bets. You're like, okay, what do we do? It's like, really? We just watch the games and we talk about who we think is going to win next based on the odds for the next week. And you came on, dude, and you, you just flood with the boys like it was nothing good. It was. It was great.
Will Compton
You know who helps give. Give picks other than football?
Delaney Walker
Who?
Will Compton
Clay does for the NBA?
Clay Matthews
Well, my. Okay, so I mentioned this when we were on the locker. My brother. No, I'm not my locker.
Will Compton
We can't talk about your brother. We have a guy.
Clay Matthews
Oh, all right.
Will Compton
We'll just say we have a guy.
Clay Matthews
We have a guy who gives me pics. Read between the lines here. And he's a stud when it comes to the NBA. He stayed with us for Thanksgiving one time. Him and his family, they're up there in Cleveland. But man, the amount of research. It's not just a gut feeling. The amount of research that goes into it. Minutes played against zone defense. First man. When going up against a seven foot defender, whatever it is in the NBA. And so he has some, some parlays that hit. Now. We, we. We've been unlucky lately.
Will Compton
We've been unlucky.
Clay Matthews
And then I. Yeah, it's been tough lately. That's why the NBA is so difficult to predict. But, but yeah, he's been helping me out with some bets and then I, I gave. I should have helped you with your ufc, you know, bets that you put out this weekend because I'm a big UFC fan. But man, I, that was a. That was a tough night for. Tough card, tough card, tough night. Took. Took a few losses, but we're gonna bounce back.
Will Compton
Had a five leg parlay, lost right away.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, the ufc. The UFC card.
Clay Matthews
Canadians.
Delaney Walker
I'll say names. Zade. Zade gave me that parlay. I reached out to Zay. Zade is this cat from Chicago. He's always in Vegas. When I'm in Vegas, he's like, Taylor, I got all the picks. I knew. I know everything. And then every time I don't bet with him, it. He's like, you should hit. I was seven for seven, blah, blah, blah. If you parlayed that, you bet 10, 100, there's a million dollars, all these different things, then every time I do bet with him, it never works out. So, Zayden, I got to do a. Some sage or something like that. It's. It's just not good.
Clay Matthews
I would like you to come to me, though, moving forward. Not to say I'm always gonna be right, but I'd like to give my input. I'd like to give my input.
Delaney Walker
So from here on out, every UFC scandal parlay that we together, Clay Matthews will have his hand.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, absolutely.
Delaney Walker
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Will Compton
Does our guy, Brian, like. Does our guy. Does he have a pick for the NBA Finals? Like, who's gonna win it all?
Clay Matthews
Do you want me to.
Will Compton
Do you. Do you have a. Do you have a prediction where. I know you like to follow it?
Clay Matthews
I think the Celtics are going to win. I know they're down. You know, they is now 2:1, but I think the Celtics are just that good. Indianapolis is looking great right now. Up 3:1, but I think it's gonna be Boston again.
Will Compton
Okay.
Delaney Walker
How do you feel about that?
Will Compton
I love his pick. I love that pick. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Like, one of the reasons why you love that pick.
Will Compton
My boy J.J. redick's out of it. The Lakers are out of it, so, you know, I don't really have a dog in the fight, so I'm gonna lean on my dog, Clay, and our. Our guy that we won't mention in their picks because last week we did. He had a. He had a. He just drops every so often, he'll drop a parlay and he'll say, this is it.
Delaney Walker
This is the one.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
And then it doesn't Hit. But then, hey, he doesn't give up. He's not discouraged. Last week. Yeah.
Will Compton
Because even it was on Friday, and so it was like, let's all consolidate. We're all going to do pizza Friday together to make sure this parlay hits. And I want to say every leg except one did not hit. So it was.
Clay Matthews
It was close, though.
Will Compton
Yeah, it was close.
Delaney Walker
You always want your parlays to hit every single one except for maybe the last one.
Will Compton
Yeah. But I don't necessarily have a dog in the fight with the NBA. I'm more so just like watching the athletes. Did you guys see watching the athletes?
Delaney Walker
Just watching them boys run around.
Will Compton
What's. What's his name?
Delaney Walker
Anthony Edwards.
Will Compton
And yeah, Anthony Edwards. Him going up top. I didn't know he was only six' three.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
I mean.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
What college did he go to?
Will Compton
I have no clue.
Delaney Walker
Ucl.
Taylor Lewan
Georgia.
Clay Matthews
Nope. Georgia. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
That was from the hip.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Hey, that dunk and the shout out to the Minnesota team, their social media team, because they crush it with him. But. And Clay, how do you feel about Ant?
Clay Matthews
I like him. I like him.
Taylor Lewan
You'd be up your alley.
Clay Matthews
Swagger. I like. Did you see the clip with. When he was in front of Obama.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Talking about he's that man or that dude or whatever he had said. I love it. I think they need more of that in the NBA. And then you saw him get after LeBron, kind of pushing him a little bit. Here you go. This is a great clip right here. Just kind of showing his mentality. I feel like we don't get that enough anymore, at least viewership. You know, we're always trying to go to. We. These athletes are trying to go to the free throw line, you know, flopping and stuff. And I feel like Ant, man, is.
Will Compton
He's got some old school in him.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Delaney Walker
There's a. There's a conversation that always takes place around the bus, usually JP and Will, about football and NBA. And NBA guys could play in the NFL. What's your take on NBA guys playing in the NFL?
Clay Matthews
Guys?
Delaney Walker
Can they do it at a high level?
Clay Matthews
You mean just like throwing them out there or if they like, train to become.
Taylor Lewan
I don't train to become train.
Clay Matthews
I think if you train them to become, first of all, you have to have, you know, somebody who can take the hits.
Delaney Walker
And I think that's the biggest.
Clay Matthews
But that's. That's hard to quantify, you know, without seeing what they. What they can handle. But from an athletic perspective, absolutely.
Delaney Walker
I think they could Athletically, they could for sure. But there's something different about football. The. The physicality of that. Like, it's not. It's not for everybody.
Clay Matthews
Right.
Delaney Walker
You just can't do it. You can't just take a guy just loses all the athletic ability in the world and make him into something special. In the NFL, we don't want to throw shade. Obviously, the trophies here, I understand that, but Larry O. Trophy here, man. I understand.
Will Compton
Yeah, but I'm saying has the better athletes.
Clay Matthews
Better athletes. NBA. You're talking about athletes, though, like. Yeah, like, who can jump higher. Yeah, that's NBA.
Delaney Walker
Put a corner out there.
Will Compton
Yeah. Look, there are some. Some elite athletes in the NBA. All of them are elite athletes because they're in the top 1% of their sport. But I've been coming around to. Yeah, maybe these guys do have some shit to them, especially Anthony Edwards.
Taylor Lewan
I'm telling you, two people. And yeah, Russell Westbrook turning back the clock, locking down sga. I don't know if y' all saw that, but sga, probably league MVP Russell Westbrook locks him down, like, end of game, pretty much to seal the win. And Russell Westbrook is how old? Like, 34, 35.
Will Compton
No clue. He's 34, 35.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. And locking down the best player in.
Delaney Walker
The league in the NBA, it's so impressive. Those guys play for so long. I feel like 10 years is like the average in the NBA. Guys just go forever.
Taylor Lewan
ACL is like, that's better than me.
Delaney Walker
That is better than me. Yeah. I couldn't. Your boy messed around the YMCA in third grade. I had. I was, like, one of the few kids that could shoot a three. One of the few kids, but that's. That was it. That's as far as it went for me.
Will Compton
Did you play any basketball growing up?
Clay Matthews
I played.
Delaney Walker
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Clay Matthews
So I played all sports when I was a kid. And then.
Will Compton
Did you wrestle?
Clay Matthews
Well, no, I didn't. That's. That's more like a Midwest thing. We didn't do that on the West Coast. I wish I did, though. Wrestlers are studs. I've got all. I saw some old. Some old video of you getting. Were you getting pinned or were you. No, I was dog.
Will Compton
And the kid. Yeah, yeah. Hit him with a fake cut, let him up. No. Head in the side, cradled him.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. No, and then, Then as I went to high school, and that ain't me, I started pulling up pictures. Pulling up a picture of a.
Delaney Walker
Is that you?
Clay Matthews
No, that's not me.
Will Compton
It said Clay Matthews.
Clay Matthews
That's me on the right, and that's my brother Brian on the left. But anyway, I. I play basketball, but I. I developed late in high school and was getting like going through puberty late, and I wasn't getting any burn, so I just. Just retired.
Will Compton
I was like, oh, look at the football player. Try to shoot a basketball.
Clay Matthews
Great on defense, though.
Delaney Walker
No easy buckets. People are scared.
Clay Matthews
Five fouls.
Will Compton
Yeah, that's always our go to as well. It's like, oh, we can play some defense, we can play some deep, we can set some screens.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, dude. The wrestling thing is such a Midwest thing because I never. It never crossed my mind growing up in Arizona, but it is something you look at now. Like, I've said this so many times in the show, but every time Will's put his hands on me and I think I'm gonna. He throws me around. Even when I was like 3:10, 3:15, I would go and try to wrestle him and he would just pick me apart. And this guy was on JV his senior year.
Will Compton
Oh, man, stop.
Clay Matthews
Okay, well, I was a jv. We'll get back. Yeah, it's a matter.
Delaney Walker
Did you say you were JV your junior or senior year?
Will Compton
No, like when I first. When my parents made me go back into wrestling, they said I could either be grounded for the winter or I could wrestle. So when I got back into wrestling, such a crazy. At the very beginning of the year, they sent me to a JV tournament to, like, earn my stripes or like, I had to stay back. I couldn't go on varsity. Went to the JV tournament. Did not get scored on with the. One of the worst hangovers of my life because I threw a party at the house the night before. But that's the only time I Was on. I was on jv.
Delaney Walker
Okay.
Will Compton
Qualified for state, man.
Delaney Walker
Come on. My bad, my bad, my bad.
Clay Matthews
But, like, like, you mentioned the body control. Like, the centers are offensive linemen who are former wrestlers. You just be like, all right. I'm like, you. You just can't put hands on them because they just.
Delaney Walker
They just brace and get around them a little bit.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Because the wrestling is. My daughter, my youngest, Willow, she's doing Jiu Jitsu right now. And then she kind of, like, wanted to get away from it for a little bit, and I was really pressing her.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Just kind of. Hey, sweetie, I promise, like, you just keep doing this. Defend yourself. Now she's running around. We put Kung Fu Panda on this weekend. And then. Yeah, she started throwing around some kicks and all these things. I was like, you want to learn karate? She's like, yeah. I was like, jujitsu is the way to go. She's like, I'm back. So we had, like, three week hiatus, and now we're getting back into it on Tuesday, which fires me up.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Because my oldest, there's just not a competitive bone in her body. She doesn't have it. Yeah, she doesn't have the stuff. Which is heartbreaking because for me, I mean, we all grew up in sports. We all grew up in, like, you go. You play every single sport, depending on what season it is, and you just roll into the next one over and over again. With my kids, they're like, I got my daughter in soccer. Didn't care for it. They love, like, art and music and all these different things, which is great. But now I'm, as a father, like, I'm out of my wheelhouse. I need to find something.
Clay Matthews
So Jiu jitsu. How old are your daughters?
Delaney Walker
Seven and four.
Clay Matthews
All right, well, we got a. We got a stud flag football team. I'm. I've got two girls on our. On our team. We're. We're, you know, accepting.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Of all genders.
Delaney Walker
Okay.
Clay Matthews
And, you know, we. We got a good little squad. They're coached up. We got one more game and then playoffs this weekend.
Delaney Walker
Really?
Clay Matthews
We're gonna be back to back.
Delaney Walker
What's the. What's the age group we're talking about here?
Clay Matthews
Like five, six year olds.
Delaney Walker
Okay.
Clay Matthews
So it's pretty. It's considered pre K. Gotcha.
Will Compton
But you're going to move up with them as they get older.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Yeah. Because my. That. That's my. My youngest is. Is in that. And it's like you had mentioned, that was the first time. I don't know if I, I had mentioned this last time, but coaching them, where I felt that, yeah, that adrenaline, that rush. It was this first game like a year ago, year and a half ago. We won on like a. I'm being honest, like, we won like 30. Yeah. I told my wife this. I mean, this is why people get back in of coaching, because you just have this wealth of knowledge that you want to give to everybody. And that's, that's where I'm at in life. Like, I love coaching these kids. I coach them hard. You know, the first thing I tell them is, like, we're going to win. Like, I don't, I don't like the coaches who, let's have a good time. It doesn't matter if we went. No, we're out here to win. We're out here to be great. We're. Let's, let's, let's take advantage of our time. Like, they will develop the skills. And then I got to lean on the dogs on the team like my son and the other ones, you know, I'm just saying, like, who is your son?
Will Compton
A dog?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, he's a dog.
Will Compton
Or is it like, that's the coach's son?
Clay Matthews
There's no. Okay, he's got that dog.
Will Compton
There's a meritocracy, but he's, he understands.
Clay Matthews
Let's take that with a grain of salt. But he knows what's being asked him. I always talk to him. I try and talk to him like a man at 6 years old. Like, hey, these other kids are looking up to you. You know, they might be in pre K, you know, four. What are these? So I need him to be the example, the role model. So I'm just trying to set the tone moving forward. But I'm not, like, I gotta preface this and say, I'm not that sports dad. Like, I'm not like, my kids have fun.
Delaney Walker
That's you right there.
Clay Matthews
And the parents. No, and the parents have fun too. And we have fun by winning. Learning the game, building confidence, having respect. Everything that you would hope that your, your child would be, would be taught from, you know, a coach, a role model.
Delaney Walker
That.
Will Compton
Or has there been a kid that hasn't wanted to play sports on, on our team, on. In your family?
Clay Matthews
Oh, yeah. My, my oldest is probably the same as your daughter. Where he's like, we, you know, we tried him out in soccer, just being like, nah. But he's, he's, he'll probably, you know, build spaceships or something like that, like Elon or he's Loving fishing right now. I think they've got some fishing, you know, clubs out here, which we didn't have on the west coast. So, yeah, he'll find his niche. But I tell my kids, like, I don't care what you do. Like, my daughter, you know, she does play basketball and some other sports, but she loves gymnastics and dance. I'm like, just be the best at it. Just be the best at whatever it is you do, and you'll be fine in life. Like, that's all it comes back to, be the best podcasters, you know, whatever it is, like, you will have success. It doesn't. You don't have to play football, you don't have to play sports. But naturally, like, I. I gravitate towards that because that's what I did as a kid. Just be the best.
Will Compton
So your son, he doesn't play any sports?
Clay Matthews
My oldest, no.
Will Compton
Or you don't keep him playing sports if he didn't like it?
Clay Matthews
Well, listen, I mean, like, kind of like my dad told me, if we start something, we finish it, but if you don't want to play after the season, that's fine.
Delaney Walker
That's. That's the move. That is the move. Because when I put my oldest in soccer, it was very, very quick. She was like, I don't. This is not really my bag. And I just told her, you're doing the whole season, right? And we're going to go every single time. I'll go with you every single time. But we have to go. Like you have. Your team's waiting on you. They're relying on you. And so once she was done with the season, it was over.
Clay Matthews
But sometimes I finish the season well. My son, my youngest, who, you know, his first game playing flag football, he played two snaps and cried the whole time on the sideline as I'm trying to coach him, send him off to his mom, you know, do this. And now he can't get enough. Like, when's the next game? He's, you know, he's. He just loves, you know, sports. Loves football right now. So I think that comes from confidence as well.
Delaney Walker
So how does. How does you take your kid who plays two snaps, cry, goes to his mom to. Now he loves it. Like, well, how did you work on that? Because that's maybe where I need to fill in the gap a little bit, is I don't know how hard to push or how hard it is to push.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, it's consistency, because every time I push too hard, then I, you know, you're like, I go Too hard. And if I'm too soft, I'm like, oh, I'm being soft on him. So I think we all have that internal, you know, kind of tug of war of. Of parenting, but I think just consistency and. And giving your kid kind of the resiliency and courage to have confidence, you know, that confidence. Because I think that's what it stems from. My kids tend to shut it down when they don't have confidence when they're in a new environment. So it's just filling them with that, like, you know, like, you can do this. You're going to be all right. Everything's okay. And then as they start to do it, you know, they get better at. And they learn to like it, and they learn to be the example. So. Yeah. I mean, we're having a good parenting talk right here.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, it is good, because it is, like, just fighting through the fringe of the insecurity and fear.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Of what they need to do. Like, my daughter had a. They had World Day at school where they all had. They did. My daughter did Panama, and she had to make a whole thing for the animals in there. And then she's talking to me the night before about, there's gonna be 400 people that I have to perform in front of, and her and I are going through her whole thing. Then her mom gets home from, like, a little, like, a. An outing for nature and nurture company. And I find out it's like everyone just goes into a room, and the parents kind of walk around and like, look. Oh, that's real nice. And then you kind of keep going. But Wynn was, like, trying to dial in all the different animals, all the different things, to the point where up. We're up to, like, 10:30, and she was, like, so nervous about speaking in front of people. She's like, have you ever spoke in front of people before? A couple photos. This is me at the Grand Ole Opry. You know, I started showing her some stuff, but it is, like, the pushing part to me, I worry about, because I don't want them to, like, get pushed so far that they kind of just. The bed when it, like, it happens. So it's a war.
Taylor Lewan
You might need to put Willow on his team.
Clay Matthews
That's what I would. That's what I was. Yeah, that's what I was alluding to at the. At the beginning is like, we. You know, they're still at the age where they put the boys and girls together before they separate them. And obviously, it means nothing to the boys right now, but there's a part of me that loves it when our. When our girls get after it on the team.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
It's like. Yeah. Yeah. I love it.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Willows. Willow's definitely. She has more coordination right now than when. When's like built like me. Like she just still got that baby deer movement. Like she kind of doesn't know how to run or kick or throw. Willow, for whatever reason, just picks it up and goes.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
So she might. Yeah, we'll look into it. Let's talk about.
Clay Matthews
Well, we're just finishing up, so we'll have to get you on the fall end. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Oh, yeah.
Clay Matthews
Try out. Try out. To be in the.
Will Compton
Too young.
Delaney Walker
You're looking for an online coach.
Taylor Lewan
Have her play up.
Clay Matthews
That's how you get back and do that. All we have is it's five.
Will Compton
He would accept it. Seems like this is squad you got us.
Clay Matthews
I, you know, and I enjoy it. I really enjoy it. This.
Will Compton
We need to get r under the. The mentorship of a Clay Matthews.
Taylor Lewan
Be the example.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah, I know when he's asking like, oh, yeah, you trying to build a. Are you going to move up with them? Are you going to stick to coaching the 5 and 6 year olds? Trust me, I'll get ru.
Delaney Walker
Could you imagine Clay's kids just like 15, 16 years old and he's like, still with the five and six year olds. He might be just random five and six year olds.
Will Compton
That's what Luke and them are doing.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but I feel like they're with Olsen's kid.
Will Compton
Right. Their. Their kids like they grow. They go up with them every time. Remember, they're in middle school right now, but when they get to high school, it's almost like the high school stat's gonna get fired and they're gonna come in and take over.
Delaney Walker
You gotta know that high school staff.
Clay Matthews
That's what my dad did. So when my dad retired, I was in. I think I just finished fifth grade, you know, somewhere in fifth grade. And he took over as coach. He might not have been the head coach, might have been decord, whatever it is. But he stayed with us the whole time. And we just, you know, you just have that same group of kids who goes through an NFL, you know, mindset of how to run. I mean, we were running like zone blitzes in high school. Just off, you know, offense is just, just putting a blend.
Delaney Walker
Menacing.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Just.
Delaney Walker
You were basically. Your dad was the first Deion Sanders.
Clay Matthews
I mean, the first. I love, I love Coach prime, but I think they're two very different but.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah, he goes up with this kid the whole entire time.
Clay Matthews
Respect. Yeah, he was. He was with us the whole time. And then as soon as I graduated, he went to other brother and then went to his high school and worked his way up. And they always had great teams. And they were. They were coached well. I mean, coaching is.
Delaney Walker
There's no doubt about it.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
I mean, that family, they were coached well.
Clay Matthews
They were, yeah.
Delaney Walker
In high school. Did you see guys with technique in high school? It's like, what are they?
Clay Matthews
Who they working with?
Delaney Walker
Well, I had a guy in high school with me. His name was Craig Rowe, played at Michigan with me. But he was a kid in high school that, like, actually had technique and coordination. He was at the end and he would just know the body and, like, he wasn't like. Like the most physically gifted guy in the world, but he was a stud. And I was like, where is he getting this? Because we're all kind of just running around out there still, even in high school. So shout out, Craig. Row. There he is.
Will Compton
The coach's kid, too, has always got kind of a leg up initially when they're young.
Delaney Walker
I wouldn't.
Clay Matthews
I wouldn't. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were. I thought you were, you know, just in the way that you are taking, you know, digs at me, about to say, no, Mr. Clay. No, no, you're right. You're right in that regard because, you know, they just. They live it, you know. But I felt like there was times when I was in high school where dad was just ruthless with. Not ruthless. I shouldn't say that one. Give him bad rap, but just, like, he had to make sure he wasn't showing me preferential treatment. So it was always, you know, you gotta work a little bit hard, you get treated a little bit different. Same goes with my kid at this age. It's like, obviously you build them up when they have good times, but you just. Other kids are goofing around. You yell at your kid for, like, the one in there.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
You know, try and tighten them up.
Delaney Walker
In California, do you have to be a part of, like, the school staff to be a coach as well, or you can just kind of come in.
Clay Matthews
No, I. Well, I'm not sure how it is public versus private, but no, my dad wasn't a part of the. Wasn't. Wasn't a part of the staff. So I'm not sure how that worked. Maybe he didn't take a salary or something.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, just like, showed up.
Clay Matthews
Just showed up, called out.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, that's awesome.
Will Compton
Just always having to perform in front of your old man, too.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. You got to give him the whole, like, you're going to be treated. How you treat the team speech.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
That's the first thing you have with.
Clay Matthews
The kids that was tough because, like, you know, naturally, every kid thinks they know more than their father. And, you know, when dad played 19 years, and I'm like, I just didn't want to hear. And it wasn't until even going to college, like, it took a while for me to be comfortable with him watching me and. And all that. I don't know if you guys ever went through that, like, having your. Having your dad come and watch and being embarrassed or, you know, just not wanting to let him down. So.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
And then they want to talk to you, like, after the game, and you kind of just like, whatever.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, exactly.
Will Compton
Very short answers. Kind of. Your body language is kind of turned away from them.
Delaney Walker
High school, I think you're more receptive because, you know, your old man played high school ball.
Clay Matthews
So you think, like, there's the opposite for me, because it wasn't until the NFL where I was like, dad, let's. Let's talk about. Yeah, let's talk like, I need help.
Delaney Walker
Right? See, my dad would come to me when I was in the NFL and be like, maybe you should do that. Listen, we're gonna be all right, Dave. Don't worry. And I have to go find. I'll go to my coaches.
Will Compton
I enjoy talking to my dad more. Like, when I was playing it, not even in college, but the NFL. But, yeah, if he brought up schematics.
Delaney Walker
Or he dropped technique. Okay, so what do you think about punching with the outside arm first? And then I'm like, dave, no. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. The dad, though, how was your dad? Like, the reason I'm bringing this up is Will. I remember I tore my acl and I went to Will's house, and then Will's dad spent two hours telling me how much of a glue Guy Willis, like, boasting about in Will the best in the awesome. I'm, like, thinking, like, I think my career is over. I'm so sad, and I just want to hang out my boys. But was your dad, like, the proud dad, or was he, like, it could always be better dad?
Clay Matthews
I think it was somewhere in between. I don't think he. Obviously, he let me know, you know, when I did a good job, you know, post game, traveling to the games and whatnot. And then you Know, he was always. He was always careful about tiptoeing that. Like, hey, can I. Can I offer? You know, like, he didn't want to insert himself knowing that I probably have. You know, me and him are so much alike. We're so, like, I got this. But at the same token, like, one has to want to receive, you know, that type of coaching, so to speak, parenting. So he was always like, hey, can I offer something? Yeah, sure, dad. Let's go. Like, tell me. So he was good about that, but at the same token, you know, I mean, wasn't like he was telling me it was never enough or, you know, telling me. I'm not to say that's not the right thing. You should have all the confidence in your son, you know, talking about me for two hours, just like, oh, yeah, he's a good career. You know, that type of guy. Just real.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. 19 years in the NFL, dude is insane.
Will Compton
But it was proud, man.
Delaney Walker
Reflect, like, smile about it. Yeah, it's just funny.
Will Compton
His old man got. You said 19? Yeah, he played 19 years in league. It's like, my dad didn't. So him seeing his boy, like, yeah, he's a proud. He's a proud.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, Dave's the same way.
Clay Matthews
Well, I always got these. These times where I go home and, you know, I just. I like to reflect and think. And you had post. You had posted like a. A tweet or an, you know, whatever post on X talking about how you were a free agent and you played what, nine, allegedly 10 years? Like, that's remarkable, dude. Like, I. I truly mean that. Like, to go from a, you know, a free agent to playing that many years is. Is impressive because, you know, as a first round pick, like, you're kind of handed the keys, like, don't screw it up. You get a guaranteed four or five years and, you know, you got time to develop. But as a free agent anyways, I just want to tell you, good job, man. That's awesome. I actually thought about that and I was like, man, that's. That's impressive. You know, that's impressive.
Will Compton
Thank you, man.
Taylor Lewan
I was waiting for the butt.
Delaney Walker
I know.
Clay Matthews
Yes.
Delaney Walker
About the kill. Will murder this man in a second. Good job receiving that compliment too, man. You did a good job with that. You're the best.
Will Compton
I'm gonna need that clip though, too. And I'm gonna send to my old man. Hey, Dick Lee Matthews.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, we're more a Ray Malaluga fan.
Will Compton
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Delaney Walker
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Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
So shocking to me, seeing guys like just gone and then the next, like two days later, four or five guys are back. Yeah, it's just. You did it, man.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Yeah. We all had great careers, but yeah. Thank you. I need to receive.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, we all played great. Yeah, dude.
Clay Matthews
The draft, Jeff, was great.
Delaney Walker
Great execution.
Clay Matthews
Oh, thank you.
Delaney Walker
It was amazing.
Clay Matthews
Thank you.
Delaney Walker
The whole thing, I had no idea. I saw you come out in that bike. I saw you stand behind Goodell. I'm thinking to myself, good company, man. He's doing his thing right now. And obviously we saw you right before.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
And then going to do the speeches you did. Can you just run down that process?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, man. So I was. Well, I'll just go back to the beginning. So I don't know where, you know, people are like, where'd you come up with that idea to, you know, you know, mention Trump and then Bear still suck. So my agent, you know, I was going to be out there, you know, some endorsement opportunities, appearance Opportunities.
Will Compton
Shout out Bud Light.
Clay Matthews
Bud Light was one of them. Shout out Bud Light. And they had asked if I wanted to come up, come up on stage, much like last year's in Detroit, two years ago in Kansas City. So I looked at last year's and it was like, Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Aiden Hutchinson, Jared Goff, you know, and I thought it was great. Like, obviously you got a mixture of legends and current players and. But they all went up there and they just screamed into the mic, you know, and I was just like, I. I don't really just want to get up there and be like, green Bay. Make some noise. So I was like, let's make this memorable. So I don't know where it came from, but I ran it by my wife. I go, you know, she's always the voice of reason, babe, what do you. What do you think about this? You know? And she's like, yes, you need to do this. So she's the master at Photoshop. So I went online and searched for some letterhead with, you know, his President Trump's signature on it. And so she was like, we need it bigger. We need this. We need to make it look like handwriting if you're going to hold it up. So she was, she was behind it, and she did a great job right there. But anyways, I didn't tell anybody because I knew the NFL wasn't going to improve it. You know, I knew just, you know, just in today's political climate, you mentioned one's, you know, political affiliation left, right. Like, it's just not going to go over well with, with the NFL. So I, I, man, I was, I was nervous backstage. I was with Jordy. I'm on green, James Jones, Mason Crosby, Lil Wayne showed up back there. Meanwhile, everyone's. I'm just. Because I'm, you know, I got this envelope that I'm holding just shaking because they didn' Know. No, they didn't know. They didn't know. I didn't. There wasn't. So there was a bunch of stuff going, probably overthinking things, but I go, listen, this is a live event. They could cut me off if I go Too long past 15, 20 seconds, you know, so they had asked me, hey, is there anybody who wants to go up there and say some things? Like last year? So I kind of, you know, Mason and Jordan, I'm not gonna do. I said, I'll get, I'll get them going, boys. I'll get. I'll get them going, you know, So I kind of fit in. But I didn't know where I was going to fit in with Lil Wayne and. And whatnot. As far as when he was gonna.
Delaney Walker
Just a wild wrinkle to have him out there.
Clay Matthews
Well, he just showed up. So I'm like, well, is he gonna say any? I just thought, like, he should have at least, you know, like Eminem did last year. Like he should have. He just kind of came up there. But anyway, so then, yeah, the opportunity just kind of opened itself and I just, I pulled this piece of paper out and just. And it. It went over well. It went over well. My brother, who I, you know, Kyle, who was on here with me last time, he. 10 out of 10 execution delivery. Everything was on point. So I was, I was happy with, with how it landed. The boys all behind me, they enjoyed it. They had no idea. So they were, you know, equally as fired up. And then, you know, anytime you can take a chance to put the bears down, you know. Yeah, you got to take it. So one of the. Well, I went. Then I went backstage. I'm like, oh, now I gotta face. I gotta face the wrath of Goodell and everybody else viral. Immediately they, they were.
Delaney Walker
Immediately, they were super cool.
Clay Matthews
Backstage. I was like, you know, I kind of half heartedly apologize while laughing. I say, hey, you know, I'm sorry. Like, I knew you weren't gonna prove it, but this and that. And so Roger was like, I just, I didn't want to laugh when I was out because, you know, I didn't want him to seem like he was. He knew what was happening, complicit, whatever you would call it. And. But they were all like. There was a few like, hey, let me, you know, because I had the sheet, they're like, let me get a picture of you with it. So they were super cool about it. Yeah, so it was good. It all went over. I told, I'll probably never be invited back again, but, oh, you made your mark. Yeah, it was cool. Then the phone.
Will Compton
When you're, when you're riding the bike out there, like, how nervous are you?
Clay Matthews
Oh, I was so nervous because I told them like in a week before, like, are you open to riding a bike out there? And I was like, no, I don't want to ride a bike. Like, I got my wife put me in these Tom Ford pants. Beautiful, you know, like super, super tight, you know, got these loafers on and so. But everyone else was doing, I don't need a one guy to walk my bike. I wrote it out there. But yeah, I was nervous not to be on stage. But Just to deliver something that I. That, like. Like, I was just fired up for, but that nobody knew. So I was like, I just hope it come goes over as well as my wife thinks it's going to come over. I think it did.
Will Compton
Did.
Clay Matthews
And then. Then the response I got from it was. Was great, too, because I'm like, oh, this is a dig at the Bears. Right. Well, then it turned political. You know, it's like, you know, Tron, like, oh, I've lost all respect for Clay. You know, this and that. All right. But I was happy. I went over.
Delaney Walker
Well, yeah, you're not going to please them all, but.
Clay Matthews
No. Exactly.
Delaney Walker
10 out of 10.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Well, it wouldn't have worked with anybody else. Like, it just. The joke wouldn't have worked because I watched your guys's, you know, your time up there in Green Bay, and when I went up there, you know, you're filming yourself, and you hear me talk about, you know, Donald Trump. You're like, oh, no, you. I can just sense. I could sense in you.
Delaney Walker
You're like, you're 100.
Clay Matthews
He's gonna bomb or he's gonna. Like, now's not the time.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Like, oh, no.
Delaney Walker
I thought you're about to plant your flag in the mega world. And I thought, this is a crazy time to do that.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. I could just tell you he was right about everything.
Delaney Walker
We did it. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
But, yeah, that's why it worked, because I had you. I had you out here. I had you out here.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
So I had 50 going. Don't got 50% going. What did he say? And then I take it a whole different time.
Delaney Walker
Dude in the pause, too, he's like, I just got off the phone with Donald Trump. He has a letter. Let's see what it says. And you took the time to open it up. So everybody in the room's, like, holding their breath. Like, what is get about to happen? You had a bunch of guys, proud boys. Like, what's he gonna say? Proud boys out there? And then you. For you to do that, like, it was the 10 out of 10 delivery. It was awesome.
Will Compton
Did. Did Trump catch wind of it? I'm. I'm assuming he did.
Clay Matthews
It's funny because my mom, I talked to her, I got home that night, and she called me and, you know, oh, my gosh. Like, we were. We were delayed. You know, dad pushed pause and, you know, something was happening. So their phone started blowing up there, and, like, some of their Chicago friends are, like, not cool. You know, what happened? And so they were just. They were they were. They were laughing. They were. They were thinking, it's hysterical. My mom was like, do you think President Trump's gonna see this? And I was like, no way. Like, he's got. I mean, we're over there talking about tariffs and the Middle east and stuff. I go, no way.
Delaney Walker
And then, you know, he's on it.
Clay Matthews
So the next night, Friday nights, like, 10pm and a Washington number text me. And I said like, hey, this is so and so with President Trump. Like, I think it's. It's his, like, right hand girl who does all the tweeting and whatnot. And. And he delivered a. A nice text, something along the lines of, you know, you delivered your speech with the same fiery approach that you took to the game. I was like, hell, yeah. So I let it sit that night because I was like, I don't know if I'm getting pranked or whatnot. So the next day, the Packers PR was calling me saying, hey, a certain someone wants to get in touch with you. So I. I just replied back, and. And I wrote something nice to him and. And he's like, yeah, all right. Stay, you know, stay in touch. I was like, sweet, but, like, listen, we won the super bowl when Obama was in office, and Obama, his wife Michelle, her brother, I believe, was like the Oregon basketball coach or women's basketball. And I met him. So he, you know, he shook everybody's hands and was like, you know, nice to meet you. Then when he saw me, you know, it's the whole Key and Peel sketch. Yeah. I want to say he dapped me up. We got a little look back through the archives. But he was so cool. Like, he was so cool. Just, like, knew about my family history, knew about my brother going to Oregon, and I was like, man, this is. This is great. Anytime you have the. Now, here's me, you know, anytime you have the. The ability, the. The opportunity, I should say, to, like, meet the president. Like, it's. It's awesome.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, you take it.
Clay Matthews
You absolutely take it.
Delaney Walker
You get the photo.
Clay Matthews
So it was awesome. It was the joke landed, you know, made a contact out of it, made a friend, and we carried on.
Will Compton
When you met Obama, had you. Was the Key and Peel sketch before?
Clay Matthews
I think Obama. I think it was after.
Will Compton
It was after.
Clay Matthews
After.
Will Compton
Yeah, I. I have no clue, but.
Clay Matthews
I just wanted to know what side.
Will Compton
I'm wondering if it's, like, in your head. The sketch is out there. Like, is he going to try and shake my head? I'm gonna. I'm gonna make it known that we're deaf.
Clay Matthews
No, I was reading his energy, you know. Yeah. When he had the little laugh and the hand was up, the elbows up, I was like, oh, we're in. We're in.
Delaney Walker
Boy, Obama, he understood, man. The whole thanks Obama thing, he like, he like leaned into that as well. When everyone was like, thanks Obama everything. Inflation so high. Thanks Obama.
Will Compton
That.
Delaney Walker
And he had this bit where he like had a giant cookie and a glass of milk and the cookie wouldn't fit in the glass of milk. He's like, thanks Obama. Like he had a whole bunch of stuff like that. And the dap thing.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, it is.
Delaney Walker
I got, I got hand shook by Obama one time. It was me, Denard Robinson and Patrick Obama. He was doing a commencement speech at Michigan and he dapped up Patrick Omame black guy. Dapped up Denard Robinson black guy. Gave me the stern white guy handshake. Yeah. So we are not the same level.
Clay Matthews
Did you have your tat showing though?
Delaney Walker
I think I was wearing like a blue Michigan collared shirt.
Clay Matthews
Okay.
Delaney Walker
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Will Compton
I know we only have an allotted amount of time with our Larry o' Brien trophy. What's your guys's fondest memory of the NBA Finals?
Delaney Walker
Dude, I was actually looking up stuff before this episode on different NBA final stuff. But the thing that comes to mind the most is LeBron's down, what, three one.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
And coming back and winning it. That's. To me, there's. There's mine.
Will Compton
Yeah. We were in Mexico when I was watching those games, and that was electric. Everybody's. Everybody's packed around the TVs at the bar and seen them come back. Because when they went down three one, and then Ray Allen bangs that three to kind of ignite them coming all the way back. That. That was electric.
Taylor Lewan
You might be mixing together Finals.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I didn't.
Will Compton
Am I mixing together finals?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're thinking of with Miami, when Ray Allen hit a three. Three one was with the Cavs.
Delaney Walker
He was at the Cats because he went.
Taylor Lewan
Kyrie did it.
Delaney Walker
That was his first year. He came back from Miami, right?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, yeah.
Delaney Walker
Came back and went with the Cavs and won.
Clay Matthews
It was. Yeah. You're thinking of Kyrie, though, when.
Will Compton
Right.
Clay Matthews
Hit that. That three to.
Will Compton
Okay, that was.
Delaney Walker
That.
Clay Matthews
The final game was. That was that.
Taylor Lewan
I don't think it was the last game, but it was a game seven.
Clay Matthews
You put it away. Yeah, Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I guess the warriors block.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Because LeBron. That's. That's right, LeBron.
Will Compton
Because that was the year the warriors had like. Like the. Like, arguably the best regular season of all time.
Taylor Lewan
73 and nine.
Will Compton
Yeah, bro.
Delaney Walker
Which is insane.
Taylor Lewan
Crazy.
Delaney Walker
That is crazy.
Will Compton
Other than that, I think of, like, when MJ was playing back in the 90s, like, because space Jam had came out.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Like, I. I didn't think I recognized how great MJ was until the Last Dance came out. Because I was thinking in a way to, like, how do we bring up who's our goat? And my. My answer would be Michael Jordan. But the only reason why I bring up that answer is because it would be because of the Last Dance. The Last Dance was one of the best documentaries I've ever seen in my entire life.
Clay Matthews
I love when former players give. Like, I always enjoy seeing former players give, like, Jordan his. His praise or his flowers or his props. Same with Kobe. It's fun to watch, you know, because as a fan of the game and I. I hope when it's all said and done, because, you know, football, it's tough. It's like, you Know, Taylor was, you know. Yeah, I beat him a couple. You know, it's like, we have such an ego, right? It's always nice when, you know, you see the guys on, like, the TNT desk or whatnot, kind of let their guard down, so to speak, and, you know, give praise to other great players. It's fun to watch. As a fan, like, you only hope NFL, because I just find, like, in the NFL world, everyone's so guarded that, you know, we're always so worried about.
Delaney Walker
Like, posturing always going on.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah. Like, it was like that, that interview you did with, like, Luke Keakley. I was like, watching. I'm like, dude, that was like, what a great guy. You know, I'm just sitting here like, dude, great guy. Like, I just, you know, you want to give someone their flowers and their praise and stuff, but it's just. Just a separate.
Will Compton
I wonder and take it the approach, too, of, like, you just being a fan of the game and realizing it's like, like, you know, anytime we've had you on or being around you, I like, I mess around with you, but it's like appreciating the game and art that you had on the field. I love to refer to it as art, but just giving guys their praise, like, you are a fan. Because we were all. We were all those little kids growing up watching these players play just because you played with them against them, or they're older than you, younger than you, same age. It's like, it's still the same approach. I feel like people mess with that because, again, your fans watching the game and when you see other greats or other players that are sitting there taking it from, like, the fan perspective and just appreciating it, because it's like, yeah, your ego get in the way of, like, throwing some flowers somewhere.
Delaney Walker
Right, Right.
Will Compton
And that's why you just want to be like, yeah, I played pretty good. Right?
Delaney Walker
Especially when you're playing like, you. You feel like you shouldn't give. I don't know if you feel like you shouldn't give people flowers, but, like, the thought of giving somebody else flowers, like, almost takes away from you. But it should. It shouldn't be that way at all. Because you see these ex basketball players and they do definitely give more flowers than I feel like football players do. And then Keakley coming on. I'm just watching this guy, like, he was the ultimate team guy guy. Just the way he's talking. Is he so accomplished and he's not worried?
Clay Matthews
Right.
Delaney Walker
Or is it. Was he always this way. Because the way he even talks about his career, it's like, bro, you don't. You don't understand, like, how good. How good you were. He was incredible. Even when he had concussions and he couldn't be physical anymore, he was just as productive, like, keeping his head out of everything, which to me is impossible.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah.
Delaney Walker
To be able to transition like that.
Will Compton
But, yeah, even just giving his teammates his flowers, too. Like, it could have been so easy for him to talk about how they change. Check to two there. And not really brought up Thomas Davis, but how he goes into each guy and how it made the play work and everything else. It's. Yeah, it was. It was awesome.
Delaney Walker
Loose the man, dude.
Will Compton
J.P. i know you're a big NBA guy. Your fondest memory of the NBA Finals.
Taylor Lewan
My father's memory actually comes from one of my dreams because I'm a big Heat fan. And in this dream, I guess I was in college, but I'm in the huddle. I'm on the team. And it's Coach Fo. He's. He's coaching us. And we're drawing up the final play. We're down by two, and I. We're all thinking it's going to LeBron. And Coach Foe is like, no, J.P. it's coming to you. D. Wade is going to inbound. LeBron is going to set the screen at the top of the key. You're going to come around the screen and you're going to bang it home. And we're going to bring a championship to 305. I was all right, let's do it. Not knock it down. Knock down the three, get lifted up on LeBron and D. Wade shoulders and legit. My dream ends as I'm, like, walking out or on their shoulders with the trophy. And just like, this is the greatest day of my life. And then I wake up and how to go to class. You're not aware of what I just accomplished. That's one of my favorites.
Delaney Walker
That is beautiful growing up.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, so many summers, like June feel like the NBA Finals to me. Is summer growing up or like, June hits, you're out of school, you're with all your friends, you're watching what's hopefully a great, great series. And we had so many good series growing up.
Clay Matthews
So that's my emotional back there. It's good. Yeah. That was a great, great dream. I remember growing up in la, just walking, watching the Lakers, Kobe, Shaq, even before them, Nick, man, exo. But I remember big shot Bob, Robert, Ori nailing Down a three. I want to say it was against the Kings or something. That was always a heated rivalry versus the Kings. Vlade Divach. But yeah, who was Derek Fisher, too, hitting that shot against? Was it San Antonio with point, point something seconds, like, just lots of good memories. NBA is fun to watch.
Delaney Walker
I gotta get into it more.
Will Compton
We would have.
Delaney Walker
I gotta be more intentional about watching.
Will Compton
The NBA at Nebraska. Like when we were doing the summer training and everything else, like being June and all the guys would get together. It was back. Back when LeBron was young and they had that series. Remember against the. Against the Spurs.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Oh, when they just started killing him.
Will Compton
Yeah, bro. They were killing him. Because you're either just like now, you're either pro for LeBron or you're against LeBron. And when that went down, the spurs end up beating him. Oh, that was tough.
Taylor Lewan
I was fighting for my life as a LeBron fan. He's still almost average.
Will Compton
A triple double. Yeah, yeah. And then just Sheldon up.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
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Delaney Walker
Thank you, NBA.
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Will Compton
Boys, how was, how was Mother's Day weekend?
Delaney Walker
It's good. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Good.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Yeah. Like, we didn't really do nothing.
Will Compton
Good.
Clay Matthews
Wash the dishes.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, no, I, I literally, I turned Mother's Day into Mother's Weekend. And we just basically, me and the kids, I had like a sit down conversation with my kids Friday night and I was like, when you wake up in the morning, you wake me up. Mom is not doing anything. She, anything she doesn't want to do, she's not doing. And so it was just like tree tailing like a queen for 48 hours. And I, in my head, I like, was like, we got, so we got like mulch done and stuff like that for like, the property, but I didn't, like, get flyers. I didn't get a card. And I was like, trying something new. And last night she was fired up on it. She's like, I really appreciate the way you did this. Mother's Day.
Will Compton
What was the, what was the. Trying something new.
Delaney Walker
Try something new. Like, usually you just get like the cards and the flower and you do something. The kids make a craft, which the kids did. Make a little something. But we just kind of just was like, hey, this weekend's about you. Whatever you want to do. What's. What we're going to do. We had antique stores, got a nice little coffee in the morning. Like, like, just do whatever she want. And then like Sunday night, her friend Natalie came over and she's like, yo, I, I. This was an awesome Mother's Day weekend. I appreciate the way you did it intentionally as opposed to just handing me whatever because something that's so easy to kind of like, hey, here's something. Here's something. Happy Mother's Day. Let's go back to our regular, you know, regular scheduled programming. But yeah, Taylor was, she was happy. And that's all that matters.
Will Compton
Oh, absolutely.
Delaney Walker
I can't, I set the tone. I can't wait for Father's Day. Can't wait for Father's Day Day. What you boys, what you do?
Will Compton
Put, put, put Mother's Day together with Father's Day in mind.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
It's a real thing, though.
Delaney Walker
It's a scoreboard thing.
Will Compton
You're kind of play the game a.
Delaney Walker
Little bit, see what's up, see what's. What y' all do.
Will Compton
Woke. We did a sleepover with Rue on Saturday.
Delaney Walker
Nice.
Will Compton
Which was, you know, fun. She had, you know, she didn't want to go to bed the whole time, but I was giddy. Because it was kind of my first time doing a sleepover with R because she's done it with Charl before. Woke up, brought Rue out to kind of bring her out, bring her out of the room and surprise her. Got her flowers, better flowers than I have in the past. And Rue had a little craft thing made for. And then I took the kids like, I got Scotty, got the kids ready, took them to Benji's Bagels to pick up Charles favorite bagel because she loves Benji. No free shout outs to Benji's.
Delaney Walker
What's Benji's. Where's Benji's at?
Will Compton
It's over in. On the west side. Kind of where our old. We're old. The church warehouse.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, you can see where they make it.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Okay. I think.
Will Compton
Yeah, like down that road on the right. Bake bagel guy came back to where she's reading outside on the front porch. And then we went to Whole Foods to shop for. She loves doing picnics. So we got everything needed for a picnic, went out, did the whole picnic, had a good time for a couple hours out there. Put the kids down for a nap. She got up, she had like a, a sound bath. Have you ever heard of those? She had like a sound bath at like 4:30. So had a few hours to herself rom really ripping with the kids. Made her to where it's like a sound bath is essentially. Yeah. Like you take your own pillow, you got a blanket and you're just sitting in a room with just sounds to where you meditate, fall asleep, take like a nap, I guess, whatever to do. And she came home. I had some steak and shrimp with some, some with a garlic cream sauce getting made. Oh, we had steak and shrimp and asparagus. Had a nice little dinner. I put Scotty down. Rue was adamant about. Hey Mama. Mama. Putting me.
Delaney Walker
That's a selfish mindset. It's a selfish mindset. Yeah.
Will Compton
So Charl had to kind of put. Had to kind of put rude down. And Scotty's been a little under the weather. She's got like a little cold going on. So we're kind of in it a little bit last night. But overall all very solid, very good. Well executed. Mother's Day. I brought Rue because you guys know the flowers got shipped to the shop last week. So on Saturday I went to go pick him up because I couldn't, I didn't want to like put him in the truck. So I used Charles car to come over and pick him up. And I'm kind of telling Rue, like, obviously, you know, it's going to fall through with the three year old. But I'm just telling Rue, like, hey, this is a secret. This between you and dad. You can't tell mom about the flowers. When we go inside, we don't tell her about the flowers. You can say she has a surprise, but we don't tell her until tomorrow. Tomorrow she's like, one more sleep, and then we tell her tomorrow. I'm like, we'll go to bed tonight, we'll have a sleep, and then we'll surprise her tomorrow with the flowers. So she comes in and she's kind of like, mama got you a secret. And then we're kind of, you know, playing it cool. Like, hey, play it cool. And we're kind of sitting there on the couch and she's like, one more sleep. And then we show you the flowers. Let's look over. God damn it.
Delaney Walker
God.
Will Compton
And Charles starts laughing. But, dude, that's a good Mother's Day, man.
Delaney Walker
The three year old being adamant about mom putting them down. There's no doubt my kids choose my wife over me. There's no doubt about it. But for whatever reason, it clicked this year. And I was like, guys, like, I know you want mom to put you down, but it's about mom. Like, wouldn't mom want to put us down on Mother's Day? Great wrinkle. Great wrinkle. Win, nice job. However, no, yeah, no, I'm gonna do it. So they were. They were all on board, which is nice. Hopefully they continue to do it. Hopefully they continue to handle business. They had a good showing.
Will Compton
What is your, like, Father's day gift that you like about Father's Day? You're like, hey, here's how I kind.
Delaney Walker
Of like, I don't know, because we've done the. That one year we had with you and Dennis and everybody when we went and just like, had a. Had a boys day.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah.
Delaney Walker
Set up like a whole boy's day. That was sick. But I feel like my kids, like, because Win's older and like the second just being more developed because they just watch their oldest. The oldest sibling, like, they, like, are really intentional about, like, Mother's Day. Fathers, like, celebrating that person. So, like, I. I kind of just want them to have fun with it, like, whatever you guys think. Because to me, it's like, gotta sleep in. Like, let me sleep as long as I want. And then after that, it's like, we.
Clay Matthews
Can do whatever is usual for me.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Like, I feel like she lets me sleep in. My wife will make me breakfast. Which is really nice. Kids will, you know, give you cards. And then after that, by about lunch, it's like, all right, like, I'm cooking Mac and cheese for my girl. I got pizza for, you know, and then, then it's business as usual. I mean, she might let me sneak away for a nap, but I think it's all about expectations. You know, it's just, just knowing what you're getting yourself. And if you think the whole day is gonna be about being pampered and whatnot, it's like, yeah, just, just be real. If you get to sleep in, that's a win in my book.
Delaney Walker
So the way the, the sleep, maybe.
Will Compton
Let me go sneak off and take a nap on the love sack.
Delaney Walker
I'm not a big nap guy. You love the nap. I'm.
Will Compton
I just, I get a little midday sleeping.
Clay Matthews
How long is your n nap?
Will Compton
45 minutes to an hour.
Clay Matthews
It's perfect.
Will Compton
It's like when the kids go down, like we were in a rhythm. When we put r down for a nap on weekends where it's like I give me a little nap in on the love sack. Might fall asleep for a good 45 minutes. Feel rejuvenated.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Nap while they're napping. God. So that's kind of my vibe.
Delaney Walker
See, I can't do that. If I go like take a nap at like 2, 3 o' clock.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I'm up.
Delaney Walker
I'm up. Like, I can't fall asleep at night. For me, it's like, let's just grind through this midday sleepiness.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
What's your sleep habits? What time, what time you go to sleep at night? What time you wake up up?
Delaney Walker
If it was my world, I'm going to bed at 9:30. Okay, what about, what about sleep? I'm more like that 10, 10:30. Intentionally winding everything down at 10. Because my wife, she like, she's a little night owl. I like to get up a little earlier.
Will Compton
So you fall asleep after 11.
Delaney Walker
Usually it's 11. The TV's going off, which sucks. Which sucks because I do really just want to like, hey, if we just go to sleep at 9:30, we wake up a little earlier. We get more out of the day. You. Yeah, you know, that's. I'm all about that. Night falls. As soon as night falls, I see that sun's starting to set. My brain turns into, how do I.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I'm the same way.
Delaney Walker
How do I figure out a way to get everyone to sleep so I can also go to sleep? I'm kind of a nightmare. At night, dude.
Clay Matthews
See mine, mine is about getting the kids to sleep so I can have some me time, some us time between the wife and I, between me. Even if it's just like mindless, like whether you watch a show, whatever it may be. But I'm, I, I feel like I put myself in a, in a pickle so to speak, that like, like I don't go to sleep until like midnight or something. Our kids school starts like an hour early before everyone else, so I'm up at 6am and then I do that for about four or five days and then I just crash. One day.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, the crash is real too.
Clay Matthews
9:30, 10:00, sleep until like 8 the next day. But then it powers me through the next four or five days. I know, I know it's not, you know, it's not great for longevity, but you know, I'm just trying to get these kids right.
Delaney Walker
It makes you look at like the Rock and like Kevin Hart be like, how the do they do do that? Like they're sleeping four hours a night.
Will Compton
They're optimal, man. Yeah, they're on that Medicine 3.0.
Delaney Walker
Medicine 3.0, what's that, Peter?
Will Compton
Tia, Dr. Gabriel Lyon. It's referred to as like, yes.
Delaney Walker
Oh, is it really? Yeah, yeah, we're on that.
Will Compton
I'm about to be on it. I'm diving in this week.
Clay Matthews
What's this?
Will Compton
So on the sleep thing, I can get good sleep and I'll still have like midday sleepiness. Yeah, like it just, I don't know, for whatever reason, I just get like a midday crash. But the medicine 3.0 stuff is like preventative medicine versus reactionary where it's like you'll go to primary care or you go to a doc. By the time you go to a doc you already got something going on. But like all those full on 100 plus blood panels, there's a spot down in Franklin called Paradigm. No free shout outs to Paradigm. But I'm diving in this week because as you know, I've, I've hurt my back so many different times and this last time I'm just, I'm legitimately so pissed off that my back keeps getting re injured. And I'm at the point too where it's like I'm 35, like if I keep doing the same habits that I'm doing, like I could have some actual problems by the time I'm 40. So it's like I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. So now I'm going to this spot. I Went to this PT shout out Griffin down at Paradigm. And they have this whole thing to where it's like, they'll have, like, this medicine 3.0 type of approach to do all these labs, DEXA scans, like, things to where it's like, what your goals are and tailor, like, lifestyle towards those goals. So that is what. This week, I'm diving into it. I'm getting Charl on board, too.
Delaney Walker
Really?
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. When you brought that to me last week, it fires me up because we've been doing the Gabrielle line for a little bit, but it's always zoom calls. Then you have to do blood samples, and then those take a couple weeks, and then by that time, it's like a month's past.
Will Compton
I'll get lazy.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, and you get a little lazy with it. But having somewhere to go in town is the move.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
And they have the DEXA scans. They have all that stuff apparently. Like, we'll just fill me in on this a little bit. A little bit. And I. I think I can. I'm gonna get the family on that too. I think I'm gonna reach out soon because it is nice, like, dude, being able to operate cognitively, energy, all that stuff, it's like, it's what you're seeking 24, 7. When you start to get older, once 30 hits back starts to hurt, things just start to hurt more than ever. And I. I just don't understand it.
Will Compton
Dude, I'll sneeze. And I get nervous when I sneeze.
Clay Matthews
Dude, I'm. Hey. So, like, right now, today's like the first day I'm coming off back spasms last week.
Delaney Walker
Hey, when you. When you got here, you kept, like, doing something with your back.
Clay Matthews
Like, I'm sitting in this chair at an angle because this is not a. Her lumbar support chair.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
That I have at the house. But yeah, so, no, we. My wife and I, we took a little early Mother's Day, her birthday, my birthday. Vacation to BlackBerry Farm and, you know, in East Tennessee. And, man, that dry. I was driving out there. I feel the. My left extensor start burning in the car.
Will Compton
You're just adjusting while you're driving.
Clay Matthews
I'm sitting forward. So finally I let her drive. I'm, like, completely flat the whole time. I stand stave it off like, you know, she wants to do pickleball. I rallied mountain biking. I rallied hiking. You know, let's go. It was. Yeah. And. And then as soon as I get home, I'm like, all right, I dodged a bullet. And then that Monday, just. Just. And then I'm on the ground for two full days until the spasm gives out or gives up. And now I'm working on pushing that inflammation out. So, like, right here, I'm just like, buddy, yeah.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
And it's crazy because I'm 38, you're younger than me, and I've had scans on my back, and I remember the word was capacious. You have a capacious, like, you know, like spinal whatever. Because I'm almost hoping they find something so we can surgically fix it, because it happens about four times a year to where I'm just. My wife knows I'm out of commission. Don't ask anything from me.
Will Compton
You're looking in a mirror right now.
Clay Matthews
But here's. Here's my promise. I'm excited to hear you talk about that, but here's where it gets me is, like, it's going to take a commitment from you. It's.
Will Compton
Yes.
Delaney Walker
And.
Clay Matthews
But the thing is, like, every time I think I want to make a commitment, I'm going to do physical therapy. I'm going to get. Get my core right. Then I go, and I start feeling better. I go, ah, just get it, buddy.
Delaney Walker
That is how everybody.
Will Compton
That is my life, man.
Delaney Walker
It's like the stretching thing. It's like, I'm gonna stretch. As soon as I wake up in the morning, I'm gonna stretch. Then the day is like, hey, when I. Before I go to bed tonight, I'm gonna stretch. And then you're laying in bed, you're like, tomorrow we start. And it's just a vicious circle over and over again.
Clay Matthews
But I feel like I'm not ready to make that commitment to a healthier lifestyle.
Will Compton
Yeah, that's. That's all too late. It gets to where it happens again, and then you start bringing up the surgery. And that's the one thing I want to just get far away from because it'll bring stuff to back. All right, you got some degeneration going on in your L4 and L5. Like, just that kind of stuff.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but everyone has, like, some sort of herniated disc. 13. Like, luckily, I haven't had any, like, back pain like you guys are dealing with, but I got a little. This little knee thing. But it's the. The spine is the most terrifying thing.
Will Compton
And once you start once what? He says that. Not the same conversation that I've kind of had with you on, like, it'll happen four or five times a year.
Delaney Walker
Once a month, Will and I have a conversation about his back and what we both need to start doing more.
Clay Matthews
Better, but it'll be something. I remember I was getting my shotgun. I was. Because it was like turkey season. I went to go put it on the table. You know, I was like, oh, I just threw it on the ground. Like, I was like, well, I wasn't load or anything like that. That was just what I was doing. But it's. It's the most. Like, I was getting a cutting board out one time and, you know, like, you just throw everything down, grabs on you and. But I can work at my. My property and lift something incredibly heavy. Embrace, you know, brace the core and whatnot. But it's always the little things, like bending over to, you know, help your kid out of the bat, whatever it may be, where it's. It's, you know, you feel like it shouldn't happen. And then, of course, you're like, why? I'm. You know, I'm 38. Like, this shouldn't be like this. And then. Then I go back to my. And I'm like, I'm good. I gotta quit bitching. But it's a bad cycle.
Delaney Walker
That's how it happens.
Will Compton
It's a terrible. It's a nasty cycle. Like, you're talking about just the smallest things. I'll pick Rue up out of bed, and it'll just grab me. And then I draw. Like, I'll lift, drop Rue down. I mean, she's.
Clay Matthews
She's too.
Delaney Walker
Dropping guns, dropping babies.
Will Compton
She's like, oh, that hurt his back. And she back from surfing because when we were out in Hawaii, we surfed, and I had to end up stop surfing because I was like, hey, my back is in absolute hell from surfing. But you grind it out. Wife wants to grind it out. She wants to play tennis. Grind out. And the whole entire next week, back from Hawaii, I'm like, I'm in hell right now.
Delaney Walker
God, I don't envy that because I'm younger than. You know. I feel like I'm two years away from that happening. I just feel like we're all in different stages.
Will Compton
Yeah, but it's. It. You know, when I was in Vegas and I got rolled out by the Big Big Bertha, which I love doing the big.
Delaney Walker
Oh, you did the. The body tempering units.
Will Compton
Body tempering.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Yeah.
Will Compton
And my man went over my low back, and it just. It spasmed on me right there. And I'm kind of sitting there. It was before the very first. First practice that I got there, probably from flying. And you. You do the workout, and I'm Sitting there. Like, I cannot be hurt. Literally before I even go out to walk through. So I'm doing all the band stuff to warm my glutes up.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Through practice and come. Come back after practice. And so I'm gonna do, like, band distraction to help, like, decompress my spine. Spine, bro. I got down to decompress my spine to where I. I get it like this. I crawl out, and then I was just, like, letting my back decompress, and when I go back in and it compresses back down, I could not get up off the floor.
Clay Matthews
This is exactly.
Will Compton
Hey.
Clay Matthews
So I used to have one of those inversion tables. So naturally you get on it and it hurt where you, like, lay backwards, and it just takes the pressure off your spine. So you think about it. You. You lay in that. And it hurts a little bit at first. And you get the. You're like, oh, this is so good.
Will Compton
I love it. Breathing into it.
Clay Matthews
And then the second you start your. Those muscles that are already in spasm, they start to contract. You're. Oh. And then you. You get. It's even worse. So you're on the ground. You can't even get off the ground. You have to slowly inch, like, army crawl your leg up to your side so that way your back. The muscles don't fire.
Will Compton
Clay, the strength coach is coming over. Hey, Will, do you need help? Do something. Oh, no, I'm just. I'm just working something out down here. Trying to just fake it, like, again. I cannot be injured right now. Know and end up inching my way up to standing, breathing, and getting in, and I just hobble back. Just get in the car, go to the. Go to the hotel. Just being like. But since that moment, I feel like that area of my back has never been right. When. That was the time when we wrestled in the. In the pool and I got you. But bodied me, but lifting you up and that activated. I feel like that lower right side of my back has been in hell ever since 2020. 2020.
Clay Matthews
It's not funny, but you have to laugh at it.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I've had one. Back then, we were. We went to Arizona to play the Cardinals. Dude, we went to Arizona to play the Cardinals, and I stayed there the week before the. A whole week and then played San Francisco. And I played like. Like 14, maybe 20 snaps of the game. And my back was in such a pretzel, I had to go back and I was on all these different, like, muscle relaxers, somas, all these things. So now I can't. I get up in the morning, like getting out of bed is just like the hardest thing ever. Brushing your teeth, it just even a sneeze, you feel a sneeze coming. You're like, if this comes, it might actually kill me.
Will Compton
You guys could have saw me on the weight room floor like just trying to inch up and.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, it's embarrassing.
Will Compton
Hey, you need help doing anything over there? I'm just doing some floor work.
Delaney Walker
Just do some floor work. But even we were in Green Bay. You were in hell, weren't you?
Will Compton
Yeah, a little bit. Ever all the traveling we did in the springtime.
Clay Matthews
Traveling.
Will Compton
It's like when we went to Nebraska. I'm getting stuff to calm it down anti inflammatory wise. And I just know in my head this is going to make me feel good to where it's like I've gotten away with another one, then the next one pops up. So I'm just like I'm battling with myself, bro.
Delaney Walker
When we were in Nebraska, the team was waiting on Will in the locker room and we. Will's in the training room and I get one of those closed doors like he's talking to the doctor right now. I have to go. Jack walks in there like, hey, the team's waiting on you guys. Like, oh for real? So I knock on the door and open up. I hey, Will there waiting on you. And he's like, oh really? Yeah. And so we go there and Will starts this speech with the entire team and he goes, just got my back looked at. It's not good. That's how speak start ends up being like an incredible speech. He starts the whole thing like that. It was just. Yeah, this whole trip literally. This is the end of the night at the draft, this still photo and I'm doing some doing Sherm's like was it name, age, body count and Will? This is Will. Like that's, this is.
Clay Matthews
Oh, have you ever taken like water bottles and just put it under your lumbar just so when you're sitting like on a, like on a plane or something just to give you just.
Will Compton
No, but that's smart. I'll like roll up my hoodies and stuff and just put it back.
Clay Matthews
That's desperation mode right there. Yeah.
Will Compton
Cuz you just, you just know when you have my plane, I'm gonna be in hell.
Clay Matthews
I had my like yeti mug driving big old thick one. I put it right here. I'm drive. My wife, she's like, you okay? Maybe you should take over. It's only funny and high. So you're going through it and then you have no. You're under. You're in so much pain and so uncomfortable. Everything pisses you off. You're just yelling at everybody. You're just miserable.
Will Compton
And you're not telling your wife that, hey, like, yes, please, for the love of God, switch me out driving. But you'll move enough to where you.
Clay Matthews
Get out of it. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah.
Will Compton
All right. Yeah. I mean, if you want.
Clay Matthews
I'm playing pickleball with her. It's good.
Delaney Walker
Were you guys at BlackBerry Mountain or BlackBerry Farm?
Clay Matthews
Mountain. That's why we did all.
Delaney Walker
How was that? Because I've been to Farm, but I haven't been to Mountain.
Clay Matthews
It's just different. It's.
Delaney Walker
It.
Clay Matthews
Well, still. It's still an older demographic, but it's more like. Everybody's in, like, yoga pants and, like, active wear, whereas, like, the farm is more eating and. Yeah, but I. I like the farm a little bit more just because, you know, with the mount. Yeah, it just. It depends. My wife says the. The farm. The spas there is. Is the best. But the food at the mountain is so good. Everywhere. It's really good. But the mountain is so good. They got an octopus up there at the. At the fire tower. It's really good.
Will Compton
Some puss, dude. Some octopus.
Delaney Walker
Have you. You been to farm? BlackBerry Farm.
Will Compton
I have that.
Delaney Walker
You need to take Char and the girls there, dude. Cuz it is.
Will Compton
It's a good vibe.
Delaney Walker
The farm's awesome. Like, everything's like farm to table there. It used to be.
Will Compton
That's awesome.
Delaney Walker
Ruby. Was it Ruby Tuesdays? Yeah, Ruby Tuesdays. The owner of that bought that land. Land to do, like, business stuff there. What's that? RT Lodge or this? Well, you're talking about BlackBerry Farm.
JP
Oh, RT Lodge. Also the Ruby Tuesdays farms and family owns a bunch of. I was just in a Knoxville wedding three weeks ago at the Ruby Tuesday's lodge, which is also beautiful. But continue.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Basically.
Will Compton
Guys doing well?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They, like, bought all that land.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, that's BlackBerry Farm. That's the barn, right? No, that's. No, that's the. Sorry. That's the spa at BlackBerry Farm.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, the spa goes hard there. They could have a better weight room. They could definitely have a better.
Will Compton
We'll hit South Hall.
Delaney Walker
Yes, they. Everyone says south hall is like the. The closer. BlackBerry Farm.
Clay Matthews
It's. That's.
Will Compton
So you've been to south hall, too?
Clay Matthews
I've been to South. That's apples and oranges, though.
Will Compton
Okay.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. I'm just helping you out.
Will Compton
All right.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, like that. That's a good birthday weekend, Mother's Day weekend. Probably take a second loan out on your house type weekend.
Will Compton
But it's okay. But it's worth it.
Delaney Walker
You're dropping a bag to go there. Yeah, it is crazy. And then the. The barn. I don't know how the mountain is, but the barn is like a five star restaurant where like, chefs come from all over the world to, like, cook there for a season and then they leave.
Will Compton
Jesus.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, it's. It's nice. The only thing I don't like is, like, you pay all this money and you can get as much food as you want. You know, you start with your appetizers, you can get two entrees if you want. I want to try the scallops with my, you know, my lambo.
Delaney Walker
And you're going to want two, too.
Clay Matthews
The servings are very small and. But then they. They charge you for the alcohol. You know, I get. Someone might take advantage if you're buying a bottle of wine, but if I just want a beer or two, like, you gonna charge me for that, right?
Will Compton
Dude, leave a review. Hit him with the.
Clay Matthews
I'm not. I'm not a Yelp, Google review type of guy. I just feel like you just scrolling.
Will Compton
Reviews to see Clay Matthews review.
Clay Matthews
I just. If it's. If it's all inclusive, make it all inclusive. Because I hate paying for something. You spend all this money and then you feel like you get nickeled and dimed, you know?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, they try. Yeah, that's how I feel.
Clay Matthews
It's just how I feel. It's like. It's like chartering a flight. And then they go, hey, hey, do you want to get food on there? I go, absolutely not. I gotta draw the line somewhere. They're gonna charge you 200 bucks to put those sandwiches on the plane. I'm not gonna eat them all, but I will pay X amount for the ride up there.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
You feel me?
Delaney Walker
There is nothing better than private aviation. Nothing beats it.
Clay Matthews
I've said this.
Will Compton
Speaking of, we got to get into it.
Delaney Walker
Ultimate bro move. Ultimate bro move by you. Because I had to go fly back to Nashville from Green Bay. And for you to even send that text, hey, I got room if you want to jump on this plane. And I was trying to figure out any way to get on that plane for sure. But once I realized it was gonna. I was. You're gonna be waiting for me. Just. Just you reaching out. That was huge. That's. That's big. Anyway, onward.
Will Compton
Well.
Clay Matthews
Well, I knew you had to Stay, though. Or else I would.
Will Compton
Yeah. Yeah. I had to go to. Yeah, we had to get the Lincoln the next morning.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. But private aviation.
Clay Matthews
Hey, let's.
Will Compton
This is super bowl champion.
Clay Matthews
That's how I talk, too. The beer in the room should be free.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Yeah. The aviation thing.
Clay Matthews
Do you know what it's called? Nickel.
Delaney Walker
I forgot for a second.
Clay Matthews
Good. Nickel, actually. I might actually think it's me.
Delaney Walker
Oh, man.
Will Compton
Yeah, the private. Yeah, the private aviation. We can pull off some trips like we did with Nebraska and Michigan last year.
Clay Matthews
Would you. Would you. Okay, let's say you win the lottery. Would you rather have a yacht or a plane?
Delaney Walker
It's not close.
Clay Matthews
You can get anywhere in the world with that.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah. The plane thing is the people talk all the time. Like, when have you made it? Yeah, one of you.
Clay Matthews
Listen, there's some people like, like, Shot Khan or whatever down in Jacksonville, you know, who have these. These yachts that look remarkable, but you can only get so far. Right? You know what I mean? It's like with a plane, dude, I. I don't know if it's called window. I watch YouTube videos on, like, the latest golf streams, like the G700 or the G800, and I'm like, when I win the lottery, right, we're getting to play.
Delaney Walker
This is yours for only $98 million. You're like, how do I make 98 million to just fit on this plane? How do I do that? Because it is the best, man. The first time I ever flew private, I was with Gabe Eichert and his wife and their family. Both sides. Like, one side of the family started American Fidelity Insurance, the other side of the family started Loves gas stations. So both families very well off. I fly to LA commercial. And then, like, hey, we're gonna fly from LA to Mouse Maui. And I get on this plane, and it is as big as this warehouse. The bathroom is as big as this bus. And I thought, this is the most incredible thing ever. Flying to a private airport in Maui.
Clay Matthews
Private fbo.
Delaney Walker
God, I'm hammered. I was hammered. I threw up in the bathroom. We go looking up at the stars. I don't even know what's going on. Wake up in the morning, there's like, this giant. I'm in this giant house, and it's like, in this bay during gray whale mating season. And they're, like, splashing in the air. As I'm sipping on a coffee, nursing a hangover over. I thought, this is. This is it.
Will Compton
Life.
Delaney Walker
This is the life.
Clay Matthews
And this is the content. Your fans Are going to love to watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Delaney Walker
Then I flew back on Southwest, and still to this day. Yeah, that is wild. But yeah, you can't beat that, man. Can't beat aviation.
Will Compton
What else do we got, boys?
Delaney Walker
We got a beau. Shout out. Oh.
Will Compton
Shout out. Bofree. Shout out.
Delaney Walker
Shout out. Bofree. Shout out. Where we at? I'll go first.
Will Compton
You want to hit?
Delaney Walker
Oh, yeah. If I have it. I was there. Let's see here, let's see here. Let's see here. Okay. Well, it's final. Okay. Shadow Bow. Free shadow is brought to us by Bojangles.
Will Compton
Bow time.
Delaney Walker
Bow time, baby. Bojangles. The home of delicious chicken scratch made biscuits, legendary sweet tea, and amazing fixings fixes. Bojangles breakfast is the best biscuit sandwich in the game. Like the iconic Cajun filet, Bojangles Supremes are always a good choice, especially when paired with a sauce like homemade ranch honey mustard and peach honey pepper. Current offer, free Cajun filet biscuit with code bussin available at participating locations. I'll go first. My shout. No free. Shout out. My shout out. No free. Shout out. Shout out. Bo. Free shout out goes to this winning a bet against your boys and having it last a long time. And unfortunately I was on the receiving end of losing this bet. But Bert Kreischer at the super bowl in February, able to bench at £320 and then again £325, where he has conned us into promoting his show, his tour, his everything on this, this, on this bus with the boys program for an entire year, is a great bet to win. I wish so badly that. That Bert tore his pack and just completely failed on that bench press. Unfortunately, he did not. So with that being said, his new special is out. Unlucky. What we got tour dates. What else he got going on? What has Bert got? Well, let me get those tour dates.
Taylor Lewan
Real quick while it's getting pulled up. One of my friends in Greenville sold a house to a massive Bert Kreischer fan who went on Burton Tom's cruise. Cruise. And so I promised him I'd shout him out. His name is Tony. He just moved to South Carolina.
Delaney Walker
Shout out, Tony. All right, so Burke Crusher's tour is July 18, Winnipeg, August 9, Halifax, August 23, Spokane, Washington, August 24, Calgary. Shout out. Bert Kreischer. You're the man, dude. You beat us. How's that biscuit?
Will Compton
Phenomenal.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
You guys want a little? Because people can get a free little Cajun biscuit, right?
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Yeah. Up. Free Cajun biscuit at participating. Participating partners using code busing. Yeah, that is it.
Will Compton
So when you get that Cajun free biscuit. Here's my low Cajun free biscuit hat. And I've already talked about it, but it is putting honey. It is drizzling honey on your Cajun filet. On your Cajun filet biscuit. That's my hack. My shout out beauty shout out. This week is going to go to snot suckers for your kids. Yeah, for the kids. Scotty. We at first, he's very congested. Acid and using those little bulbs that kind of suck it out. They kind of just don't.
Delaney Walker
They don't.
Will Compton
They just don't do it. And you just feel like you're torching them the entire time. But hopped on Amazon got a little snot sucker to where you kind of set it by her nose and you, you like suck it up out of there.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
And it's. It works wonders. So if you're out there in the parenting game and you're using that little bulb and you get a little frustrated with it, just pop on Amazon. Get yourself a little snot sucker. It does wonders.
Delaney Walker
Wonderful. Yeah, wonderful.
Will Compton
That's my shout out Beaufort shout out.
Delaney Walker
I love that. Well, speaking of hacks, anytime I get my Cajun filet biscuit, I do think more protein the better. So I like to throw a little egg on there, a little bit of cheese I have to get crusted with my sandwich.
Clay Matthews
Are you eating sandwich?
Will Compton
Yeah, I'm eating it. Cajun flake. Got the egg on there.
Delaney Walker
Looks fantastic, buddy.
Will Compton
You guys got some beauty shout outs. All right.
Sherman
My shout out beau shout out goes to when you go to a concert, like the light show show that they put on Garrett G or G. Jack and I, we went to Rufus De Soul last Tuesday. And the light show that they had going on, like, I would. I caught myself watching the lights more than I was, like, enjoying the music. And like they had like this smoke go off and then like these lasers go through it. And it looked like the sky was like you could like touch it. Like, I just. It was one of those things where you like, I should be on drugs right now. I was completely sober October, and I was like, this would be. This is so awesome.
Delaney Walker
But then also, you didn't have one drink.
Clay Matthews
No.
Will Compton
No training. He's committed to his craft.
Delaney Walker
I guess so I guess he is committed to his craft.
Sherman
But then also, like, another side. Shout out when you see your friends enjoying stuff. Like, I, me and like, our crews were right near each other And G was standing right in front of me the entire time. And G was just vibing the entire time like he's having the best time of his life right now. And it was like I was happy seeing him happy, just like enjoying it, just like grooving. And G can dance too, so he.
Delaney Walker
Was, oh, okay, G. He was doing his thing. Let's go.
Will Compton
It was electronic music. There's not like a dance move for that.
Delaney Walker
That's just a flow. That's a flow. Yeah. It's just rhythm.
JP
Shout out. Both of you, shout out to staying on property at a travel wedding as a single man. Like, you typically get in these flows where you get an Airbnb outside of said property for a venue because it's cheaper or it's whatever. In the last few weddings that I've been traveling for, I've been staying on property. And the convenience factor is amazing. And on top of it, it's usually a beautiful location to go celebrate love and be with your friends. Our friends were in Miramar beach in Destin, where I was just at this weekend. We were staying closer towards like the Alabama state line side. But we were in this like 20 story hotel. We're on the ninth floor. Have this beautiful view of the bay day. Every time I've been in Destin, I'm very much used to being on the beach, so it was a different Destin experience for me. But we had this beautiful view, a beautiful room, tons of good places to eat and hang out and drink around us. But yeah, when. When a wedding party wants you to stay where the wedding is happening, it's usually for the right reason. And so I think I'm just growing up and I'm about to just stay on property every time I go to a wedding.
Delaney Walker
Nice.
JP
Because they take care of you. And the wedding was six floors below where we were staying and all of our friends had to drive 20 minutes and I was staying with three single guys. And it's like, hey, the singles are kind of up right now, so. But yeah, shout out. Staying on property. Shout out. Bo Free Shout out. Also, are we supposed to be doing something with our Cajun filet hack?
Will Compton
Yeah. You have a Cajun filet hack?
JP
Yeah. It was said earlier because I don't know, you can't. You don't want to go too outside the box on a Cajun filet hack. But if you throw honey on a Cajun filet biscuit. Biscuit. Especially a hot Cajun filet biscuit. The sweetness of the honey paired with the heat level of the chicken is a really good combination. So I wouldn't necessarily call it a hack because it's been done. But we don't need to reinvent the wheel either. Like, let's just stick to what we know. So shout out a little huzzle. Yeah. A little honey.
Delaney Walker
It's been done.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
More than once on this bus.
Will Compton
No need to change the. Change the wheel.
Delaney Walker
Nope.
Taylor Lewan
I know I, I my boat free shout out hack would be I love honey mustard with my Cajun filet biscuit. And another shout out to Bojangles just because for me, Bojangles, I think immediately related to college football because South Carolina, there's a Bojangles right next to the stadium. And every single game day morning go to Bojangles, get occasion filet biscuit combo, the bow rounds, dunk them in some honey mustard, and it's just college football is the best time of the year. And Bojangles makes me think of it.
Will Compton
Love that Cox.
Taylor Lewan
And shout out Spencer Rattler, New Orleans.
Delaney Walker
He's in. It's his time.
Will Compton
Yeah, man.
Delaney Walker
Also, shout out Beaufrey. Shout out Vegas this weekend. Jackie hitting the cards hard. We're gonna see what happens. Hit the little Apex, little UFC. Just get after it for 48. Hit the sphere.
JP
I think the kids would love to see that. I know I would.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. I'll tell you what. I'll get you a single ticket.
JP
I will.
Delaney Walker
And I. I know you will.
JP
I know it, man.
Delaney Walker
I swear. Yeah. All right, Fair enough. I pulled your leg enough. You're going, baby. Let's go. That's it. Vegas. Yeah. Anybody else? You should go with him, buddy. I'm not. Here's why. You could go for the first half.
JP
First song.
Delaney Walker
Saturday night, I will be playing cards. And then as soon as I'm done playing cards, I'll be going to sleep because we have a 5am flight. And then the next Monday, Tuesday, we got a big couple of days here. Not gonna say what that's true. We had a big couple of days that I need to be. I need to be ready and heady for.
Will Compton
What do we get? That's called growing up.
Delaney Walker
I'll tell you after the show, bud. But.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah, that is big.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Monday and Tuesday.
Will Compton
Yes, yes, yes.
Delaney Walker
So I want to be available. I want to be available emotionally for that experience. So, no, I won't be going.
Will Compton
We interrupt. We interrupt this episode to take you back to December of 2023.
Delaney Walker
Beautiful time.
Will Compton
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Will Compton
AJP you think it's going to be a big year for Rattler?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, dude.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, last year, you look at their roster, obviously there was a whole issue with their head coach, coach, the coaching staff. The roster was not a good roster. He did break Archie Manning's record, rookie record, passing yards in the season. But no, I think it's Kellen Moore's down there. I think they'll be a great, a great duo. And I believe, of course, I believe in Spencer Rattler because he's a gamecock, but I just think he is. I mean he's so talented. He was highly touted as a young kid. He played well in college and I think if you can just have a decent roster. Roster, he's going to be good.
Will Compton
Yeah. I don't know how the Saints will do it. Feels like they just need to reset the entire thing.
Taylor Lewan
Right.
Will Compton
Young QB room.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Because who's the. Who's the. Who was their draft pick? Tyler.
Taylor Lewan
Tyler Sh.
Will Compton
Right.
Taylor Lewan
Shuck. Right.
Will Compton
Yeah, shuck.
Taylor Lewan
And they have Jake Haner as that as also in the room.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
I thought. I feel like the division's all Tampa. This is year all Tampa.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
But hopefully he takes a step where they like, this is our guy for the future. He just can play for 10, 15 years. I know other quarterbacks Sh Sanders, what Sher were using the Cleveland Browns bringing up a bunch of stats, breaking all the stats in the entire world.
Will Compton
The trolling by the Cleveland fan base.
Delaney Walker
Cleveland fan base is getting weird because they were going after Mason Graham too. Showing him in some drills, being like, there's no way this is the fifth overall pick.
Will Compton
So they're trolling by talking about he has these record breaking numbers for a rookie minicamp. And it's obviously working everybody up because Shadir Sanders has been such a talk since the whole draft.
Delaney Walker
But you got to respect 28 for 34 plus yards.
Will Compton
I love this one because it's very obviously a 40 yard pass.
Clay Matthews
Well, it's just I read that last night. I'm like, this guy. It's not 81 and a half. Like I'm now putting it together.
Will Compton
Like I. I'm not gonna lie, I watched that video several times. Times just be like, oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a troll because that's insane.
Clay Matthews
And then I'm like, wait, Baker, this pass. I was. I'm literally like racking my brain because I'm like, it was a nice pass. I hope he does well.
Delaney Walker
That is going to be. That's going to be news forever.
Will Compton
Oh, bro.
Delaney Walker
This whole entire offseason, all the media.
Will Compton
Coverage for that quarterback room throughout all of training camp is going to be insane.
Delaney Walker
Were you surprised that he went in the fifth round?
Clay Matthews
I was. I think from a talent standpoint, he obviously is greater than. Was it fifth?
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Fifth rounder. I Don't know. I don't know how you know what happened in the meeting room.
Will Compton
Right.
Clay Matthews
He'll prepare, whatever it may be. But yes, I was, to answer your question, definitely surprised. I'm not, you know, I'm not one of those guys talking about collusion or anything like that, but I hope he does well. I've, like, I. I've watched more Colorado ball than I have like any like, you know, being a former USC Trojan. Like, I watch them and I'd watch Colorado because they were like, must see tv. I want to see what Dion was doing. Shador Travis. And so, you know, I, I hope he does well. I hope he does well.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I feel like he's put in the best position to do well now because he's learned early in his career how not to handle things if some of these things are true. Like the way he was handling himself in the meeting room. Just a photo that trim just had up with him. The sideways, the hat backwards and sideways while you're at the combine doing press. Like there's. If you're NFL quarterback, there's only 30, 32 of you that start. Like there's a way you handle yourself, the way you operate everything. And if you're a billion dollar corporation, you want to put your hands, you know, you want to put everything on this guy. It's like you want him to represent your team in a certain way. So I hope he crushes. Yeah, I'm kind of mixed because as Dylan was it Dylan Gabriel. Right. Like he Oregon cat. He just being around him for the short amount of time I was for the Oregon Ohio State game, he was. He's a dude that seems like he's got a good head in the shoulders, works super hard. Dan Lanning had a lot of good things to say about him. So I hope they're both successful. I don't know how that happens, but it'll be interesting to say the least. See how that all goes down.
Will Compton
They get all Joe Flacco.
Clay Matthews
You think they're both on the roster week one?
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Clay Matthews
Over. And who was. And who was the other other buddy?
Will Compton
Yeah, desean Watson.
Delaney Walker
Well, desean Watson's not going anywhere.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So Watson will be on IR and then you got to get rid of either one. But you just don't give up on rookies like that especially.
Delaney Walker
I think if they show enough promise, you you might get rid of Joe.
Clay Matthews
And just.
Will Compton
Squad guy.
Clay Matthews
I know, but you need Joe to be the, the, you know, to, to Be in that locker room, the quarterback room, to show these guys how to be a professional.
Delaney Walker
I don't disagree with you because you take Joe out of that. Out of that locker room, it definitely gets weird.
Will Compton
It'll be Dylan, Gabriel, Shadur, Picket that get cut. Like, Joe is going to be on the.
Sherman
Picket's going to be the one that gets cut.
Delaney Walker
It would. It would probably be Picket if you.
Will Compton
Both those young quarterbacks showing up.
Delaney Walker
But you're looking at. You're looking at five quarterbacks here. Really, it's four. Like DeShawn Watson, like, that's. He's going to be on IR and they're. I feel like even with the Browns, with the money there, yeah, he's going to be on the wrong roster, but he's not really in the room.
Will Compton
And Mitch, to your point, like, fifth round, you're a draft pick, but probably be on the roster because he was a.
Clay Matthews
Third round.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah.
Clay Matthews
And they went and got him at third round.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
You know.
Will Compton
Yes.
Sherman
My thing is, though, why would you waste a draft picked on. On them? I feel like you're like, your draft pick should not. Should stay on the roster unless they have, like, a poor preseason. But, like, if you cut a draft pick, you just wasted a pick.
Delaney Walker
That can happen.
Sherman
No, I know, but, like, that just seems like in my head, that just seems like dumb for a franchise to waste a fifth, sixth, seventh round.
Will Compton
They're probably not going into it thinking they're gonna cut him. Like, they.
Clay Matthews
Well, they're also not thinking it's a waste, too. I mean, obviously they were happy with their third round picking Gabriel, but, you know, now you have somebody who, for whatever reason, has fallen to the fifth. You're like, all right, let's. Let's take a chance.
Will Compton
Let's see.
Clay Matthews
Let's see if he can do it.
Will Compton
Pickett exceeds their expectations. That's where it's like you. You have Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and maybe you try and get Shadur on the practice squad if that's how it were to play out. Like, again, it's like they're all. They're all going to be in a spot to where they can win a job.
Sherman
Would you imagine Shedeur gets cut? The frenzy. The media frenzy that'll happen. Or if he's a practice squad guy. I don't think.
Will Compton
Well, it's going to be a media frenzy. No matter what.
Sherman
I think.
Delaney Walker
No matter what.
Sherman
I don't think they'll allow him to get cut just because of who he is. And, like, I Know the NFL doesn't really care about that. But like I just.
Will Compton
Bro, they won't operate like that.
Delaney Walker
They won't. He's in the league now.
Will Compton
He's in the league.
Delaney Walker
I think if you see, if you see Pickett, Shador and Dylan all show promise to like, okay, one of these guys could be our quarterback. Long term. There's a world. You get rid of Flacco because you have all of Campo Flacco. They learn from Flacco then. But like he's a short term answer and these are some long term guys. So as a franchise, you want to invest in the long term options. I mean, it sucks for Flacco because he is a dog still.
Will Compton
But to Clay's point, it's like you have somebody in there who would be a pro and teach them how to, to be a pro. Like, I think Joe will be on the roster no matter what.
Delaney Walker
Hey, Sher, can you look up how many years Flacco's been in the league?
Clay Matthews
He came in 2008, I believe. Right.
Taylor Lewan
Also, it looks like Adam Scheffner 10 minutes ago. Trey Hendrickson says Bengals have cut off contract talks, bro.
Clay Matthews
Hey, just real quick, why does it always seem like the Bengals going back to Andre Smith, maybe even before then, always seem to have an issue signing their players? Now there's a kid, a first round.
Delaney Walker
Pick to the Bengals, sitting at a.
Clay Matthews
Rookie camp, who's sitting at a rookie camp. And listen, he has all the. He. He has every right to do it, but it's because his gear, let's just say guaranteed money, whatever it may be that they're fighting over is less than the 20, 24 pick at the same slotted 24th pick. Like why is it always an issue?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I don't.
Clay Matthews
I mean, well, listen, I mean that's. But I'm talking like this has been, this has been going on for some time now. Whether I remember like when 2009 was Andre Smith from Alabama, you know, like Darius Hayward, he was slotted somewhere. I don't know if he was asking for too much. I'd have to educate myself a little bit more if he was asking for what was approach appropriate. But now Hendrickson making Jamar chased and they make him wait another. It just seems like there's always.
Will Compton
Yeah, they've always kind of messed around with their players.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, it seems like. I don't know if I'm putting words where they shouldn't be, but I don't think they're like a cash heavy franchise. Like they're a Cash poor franchise. So they have to like manipulate and handle these things. And they've kind of run into a good problem to have where they have all these great players and they've got to pay them relatively around the same time. The Trey Hendrickson thing, didn't he get paid already?
Will Compton
He's got an extension, but I feel like that's always been kind of a drama. That's always been kind of a beef between them because he's always. He's always wanted to kind of extend his contract. They've always kind of been in talks, out of talk, saying stuff in the media.
Delaney Walker
The Bengals put themselves in a bad position waiting this long because you had Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, all these other guys. I mean, if you got his team, Jamar Chase, like Max Cross, he was the highest paid non quarterback guy in NFL history. And a week later he was like the fifth high biased. So the market's gone crazy now. Trey Henderson's probably thinking, well, I'm up there with Max and Miles, I want to beat them. And so it's probably because they paid Jamar Chase.
Will Compton
They paid T. Higgins.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Do they? Or they franchise?
Will Compton
No, I'm pretty sure they go, yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, they did pay him.
Will Compton
It's like the highest paid number two receiver in the league, I believe.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
But they've tried taking care of their guys on offense and now it's come time for a Trey, it's just like, you know how the business kind of gets in the way. Giveaway or priorities, wherever they're at. Because like Trey probably could command somewhere close to, you know, those guys are getting paid at the top. Obviously their agent in the market's kind of working in that favor. But the Bengals might be strapped for cash.
Delaney Walker
The rookie sitting out. The rookie sitting out of rookie minicamp, though, I don't understand because my understanding of the new CBA is every pick is slotted, right. With a 5% increase every single year. So there is nothing like you're. You're negotiating over like minor details, smaller things, things like the price kind of is. Is what the price is.
Clay Matthews
Right.
Delaney Walker
So if this got to sit out, like, I don't. You. You were the old CBA when you got drafted, but you went to rookie minicamp without being signed.
Clay Matthews
I. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. I mean, you have the right to. So I, I, like, I don't know. I think it depends on the situation. So I don't know what they're fighting over. I think it had something to do with guarantee, you know, some type of guarantee in There. But I, I definitely think as a rookie you want to put your best foot forward, but at the same token that that's, I mean, some. You just got to stand up for.
Will Compton
You know, the, you know, the agent. The advice there will be, don't, don't, don't. You don't risk injury when there's no right.
Clay Matthews
100%.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but you, but you are like, it's already there. Like, I agree. My understanding of first round picks still, like when I got drafted, it was like, Taylor, this is how much you're going to make. It's guaranteed. It can't go away unless like I, you know, I. You get a DUI or something like that. Like something crazy has happened. But like, if you get injured, you're good through the four years. I, I did. I didn't sign until two days before camp started. And that was the only time my agent was like, hey, you might have to like not go in for the first day and just. And then come in the next day. But it got, it got done. I, But I did rookie minicamp. I did OTAs. I had like $12 in my bank account. I'm thinking to myself, I can't wait for this phone number. It's gonna look different.
Taylor Lewan
Remember Sean Merriman? He said he held out of camp.
Delaney Walker
And then his rookie year.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. And then he showed up like, that's right. Day one practice and went nuts.
Will Compton
Yeah, that's what he talks about. Going after Lorenzo Neal.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, exactly.
Delaney Walker
But it also doesn't make a whole lot of sense because they, they're. That's like a fragile. Such a unique franchise because Burrow's so good and their team is like super bowl caliber. But there's always something up. Like they're always losing the games they shouldn't lose. They're always fighting to get in the playoffs. The end. Not always. Like this happened last year. But they are just a team that like, it seems like some bullshit's around them that they don't need.
Clay Matthews
Why would you like the Carson. You know, when Carson was there and demanding a trade, you just always think there's a. Yeah, it's.
Delaney Walker
But they were like a franchise. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. The franchise is, you know, with just little instability, so to speak. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Well, Joe too. It's like, bro, you've got the tools.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Like you guys are a team in the afc are.
Taylor Lewan
It's because the kid shows up too, every single day and he's in the jersey. He just doesn't do the actual drill but he's like there on the field.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. That's his agent, right?
Will Compton
That's the agent. Like, do everything you can.
Clay Matthews
He'll be fine. They'll figure out it. Weird, it feels like the end of the world when you're not going through it, but once he starts, if he starts making plays, it's, you know, he'll be all right. But I, I would like, as an, like, as a former player, I'd be like, ah, I want to be out there.
Delaney Walker
All right.
Clay Matthews
The boys, I want to give off a good impression. First impression.
Delaney Walker
You never held out?
Clay Matthews
No, but my contract got signed. I think my rookie won, like, right before the first day. Hey, you might have to hold out the first day. Got signed in my second one. Five year deal. I played four years. And we just pretty much told him we're not showing up until we get a new contract. Obviously nicer than that. And, and there was. There. That's what was going to happen. So we got signed in the off season at some point and that was it. Yeah, it was easy. I mean, there was no, like, it was going to happen. I was playing well. I deserved it. I was, you know, it was, it was going to happen.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. So you, you, you had full faith in that?
Clay Matthews
Yes.
Delaney Walker
I had to hold out for a mandatory mini camp and I was stressed out about it. I was so stressed because they were kind of starting the negotiations going on. They sent it off.
Will Compton
Picked up your fifth year, right?
Delaney Walker
They picked up my fifth year and so I played my fourth year. So going into my. I believe going into my fifth year, they started the negotiations, but like the season ended and obviously it's like all you're thinking about is like the second contract. You're like, bro, yeah, I've done it. Haze in the barn. I've done X, Y and Z. Like, I know what I'm kind of worth. You're excited about it. And then February, no, nothing. March, nothing. April, you show up for OTAs and you're like, all right, I mean, let's see what happens. You kind of try to be in the best shape possible. Like, you got a little tan on. You're in the gym a little extra long, a couple days leading up, and then they send like some offer that's like, like it's still, it was still a good, like, it's money, but you're also thinking like, you know what you're worth. And I knew what I was like, supposed to be getting. And then like, John Robinson's like, you know, we just sent you a Big offer, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, for real? So I called my agent. They're like, this is a terrible offer. This is awful. Blah, blah. So we kind of go through it back and forth a little bit. And then Tom Condon, my agent's like, hey, maybe you should think about not going to mandatory minicamp. And I was, like, stressed about it, and so I ended up.
Will Compton
That was rapes first year.
Delaney Walker
That was rapes first year. But Rabes, like, he came up to me during OTAs, and he's like, hey, I know that you guys are in negotiations. I want you to know, like, I'm not touching any of that. Like, you want to talk about football, we talk about football. If you want to talk to me about contract, you go talk to John about that. That, like, Rabe cut it down the middle really quick to where he was totally not about, which I actually appreciated. But this is like 18 Braves.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
So, yeah, I. I held out for that mandatory minicamp, and I made that mistake of going on 145 the zone that first day and just kind of listening. They're like, this guy, blah, blah, blah. I'm thinking, ah, did I up? Should I not have done that? And then, like, literally, it was kind of the same thing as my rookie. My rookie deal is, John Robinson goes, he's not going to be here. We're not negotiating with guys that aren't here. So they cut it off. So all of June and then half of July. Like, I think it was like, July, like, 15th. And so camp's in, like, a week. They called, and then they got. They got it done. Like, I think they're doing, like, minor detail stuff. So, like, this kid who's, like, sitting out my first day of camp, I was like, hey, just to protect myself, I'll be here, but I'm not going to do. I'll do drills. I'm not going to do any team stuff because the last thing I want to do is get hurt. I was, like, very transparent. Like, if I get hurt, like, you guys understand. And John was like, yeah, we totally get it. So I kind of just, like, chilled that day, which was so nice. So nice. That first day of camp, dudes are just dying. I'm like, you just be all right. Take a little sip of water. And then I got done the next day. But it's so uncomfortable to sit down.
Clay Matthews
It is.
Delaney Walker
You feel like you're just letting everybody down.
Clay Matthews
Oh, they're taking advantage, you know, because you've never been in a business negotiation meeting before. So you have no idea. And you feel like everybody's looking at you, especially as a high draft pick. You're like, I need to be out there, I need to show my worth and. But you got, you got to do what's best for you, though.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
It's hard at that age though, at, you know, 22.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
It's interesting though, because the nil, like everyone's got agents. They've all had agents for three, four years now. So they kind of like understand the business a little bit more now.
Will Compton
I mean. Yeah. But until you go through the experience, you don't have any experience.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
So you can sit there and talk about with your agent, but once the chaos and the posturing and everything else starts, it's still brand new to you. And everybody's living in their own world. It's like you're in your own movie. So the panic and anxiety or how are they seeing me, how are my teammates seeing me, how the coaching staff see me by doing this, because I'm listening to my agents agent, I feel like I'm second guessing my agent a little bit.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Because I wanna, I wanna be out there with the boys. So you're kind of pressing him, he's pressing back. It's like you don't know until you actually go through it.
Delaney Walker
And that's the thing you brought up at the beginning too, of like you're in your own story. Like no one actually gives a what you're doing.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Everyone's so focused on their own OTAs, their next contract. They're making the team and they're like, hey, Will's holding out. It's like, oh, for real. I hope he gets his money. And they go back to whatever the they're doing. But you're just playing this game in your head of like, like, oh, yeah, dude, did you. With the draft this year, did you feel any type of way with the packers taking a receiver for the first time in like 22 years?
Clay Matthews
That never really affected me in the simple sense that like, we were always so close. Although, see, they hit on a bunch of second rounders. Randall Cobb, Devonte Adams, Jordy Nelson, I mean all those guys went on to Will and are currently in like the packers hall of Fame. Like they're, they hit on those, but they, they haven't. We were so close for so long. Then even after, when I, my last year was 18, they, I think 1920 had two of those NFC championship games and you're sitting there going off. We had just, you know, one more wide Receiver one or wide receiver two to devonte. But no, to me, it meant nothing. But I think it was the perfect pick for the crowd, for that energy, for, like, to 100. It was electric, by the way. The draft. I mean, I. I just assumed you'd have equal parts fan base of all, you know, 32 franchise, but it was like 95 packers fans.
Will Compton
It was a celebration for Green Bay.
Clay Matthews
Dude, it was unbelievable. You think, like, on a game day, there's 77,000 fans, 200,000 on, like, day one. I mean, it was. It was awesome. It was electric. That's what I tried to tell everyone. I lost my voice. I'm like, it was. It was fun. We had a good time.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
I can't believe how they were able to get everybody in there, because it seemed like it was easy for everyone to move around, but it's just crazy how it's a small town town and there's this big, historic stadium just sitting there. It was all. It was awesome to see.
Will Compton
We got. Before we wrap up, the NFL schedules do release on May 14, and FanDuel has NFL futures which can be parlayed. Do you have any early predictions for future parlays?
Clay Matthews
On what? On.
Will Compton
On. Yeah, like, on the season. The schedule has not came out yet. It comes out.
Clay Matthews
Well. We. We know the season opener, right?
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Dallas and the Eagles.
Clay Matthews
Or we could.
Delaney Walker
We could.
Clay Matthews
We could bet the money line on that or.
Will Compton
Well, I'm thinking, like, who do you.
Delaney Walker
Think wins that game?
Will Compton
I think commanders take the NFC East.
Clay Matthews
I think Philadelphia is still the big dog there.
Delaney Walker
What about the hangover?
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Man, they still got their saint or. No. Did they lose a couple of their D linemen, right?
Delaney Walker
I think so. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
In free agency.
Will Compton
Yeah, they lost. They lost Kell.
Clay Matthews
I mean. Mean. But there were some young.
Will Compton
Yeah, they got some. They got some young. Yeah, they're just. Philly, when they draft, they're just reloading.
Clay Matthews
I mean, you think of how they want. I mean, Jalen Hurts played smart. Saquon did his thing. They had arguably the best O line and D line. I mean, you know.
Will Compton
Yeah, they're gonna be the favorite going.
Clay Matthews
Well, that's what I think. I mean, yeah. What's his name? Jaden Daniels was. He was fun to watch, but, like, he had to put the team on his back. I feel like with Philadelphia, they're more sustained. It's. It's a full team. They're gonna be able to sustain success provided there's no, you know, hangover. But I feel like, you know, Herz doesn't seem like a guy. He seems like he's got his head on straight. Saquon. You know, they seem like they got a. The, the right pieces in place to do it, to go after it again.
Delaney Walker
It seems like for the last like 10 years the Eagles have had great leadership and that has been a great, like they just been handling their, their, their stuff well everywhere they go.
Will Compton
You got the Eagles winning the East. What other team do you have taken their division? Bills.
Clay Matthews
Let's talk about nfc. Okay. You want afc? Yeah. Bills.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
I gotta, I gotta take on the Bills. I think the bill. I think this is the Bills year. Super Bowl. I think this is finally the year they get it done. This is finally year Josh Allen gets over the hump.
Clay Matthews
What? Who's Diggs with? Is he with.
Delaney Walker
He's with the Patriots.
Clay Matthews
Okay.
Delaney Walker
Which I think the Patriots. Let me see their over unders on the wins this year.
Will Compton
I think the Patriots can get a little spicy.
Delaney Walker
I think so too. I don't think they're winning the division, but I think.
Clay Matthews
Do you think they'll get better because of talent acquisition or, or.
Will Compton
I think both.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, they definitely have more talent. They spent more in the, in salary than they have I think since Tom was there early and Rabel like he gets, he has. The boys understand like he's a great coach. Seven and a half is a lot.
Clay Matthews
Who's there is a quarterback. Buddy. Yeah.
Will Compton
Which he played well.
Delaney Walker
Well, people are talking about how he is.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Who you think's going to take the. The NFC North?
Clay Matthews
I think Detroit. I'm interested to see how Buddy from Michigan does for J.J. mcCarthy. Minnesota.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
You know, they've obviously got a great team of Vikings, but Detroit is just. They've got that it factor right now. Until someone d. Yeah, but, but until someone, you know, dethrones that. I mean packers are right there. You know, I think that'll be the best division.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. I mean NFC north and the NFC East.
Clay Matthews
I love watching the AFC north though.
Will Compton
I feel like the AFC west is going to be fun this year too. With Bo Nix in a second year, you got the Chargers. Harbaugh in his second year with Herbert. Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll with the Raiders. They're probably like, you know, know they'll probably have the worst or the longest odds going into one of the division, but I feel like between the Chiefs, Broncos and Chargers, like that's going to be a really fun division to watch.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Broncos would be cool. I just, I could see the Chargers winning that division. You see Harbaugh On Rich Eisen talking about how he's having dreams like JP Was having. He's had a dream. I woke up in the morning, I was like, I've got to get Justin Herbert to the hall of Fame. I've got to do it. He's the best, man.
Will Compton
He is, man.
Delaney Walker
He's got it. He's got his guys. Yeah. Let me get the Chargers on that future. Let me get the Chargers taking the AFC West. I'm jumping on that train with Compton.
Will Compton
I kind of want to jump on the. The Broncos.
Delaney Walker
Are you.
Will Compton
I kind of like the Broncos.
Delaney Walker
The biggest question mark for me is the AFC South.
Will Compton
Like, yeah, buddy, the AFC south is.
Delaney Walker
But it's like, Texans. Yeah. Texans is your obvious choice to win that division. But then Jacksonville, like, they're always, like, good but not good. The Titans have, like, everything but said out loud during a rebuild. The Colts are kind of lost as a franchise right now.
Will Compton
Texans are winning that one.
Delaney Walker
I think it's gonna be closer than you think. Yeah. Yeah. That does mean they're gonna lose. It ain't Andy. I could see the Titans making it. It really just depends on camera.
Will Compton
You can see the Titans, man.
Delaney Walker
Make it depends.
Will Compton
I hope Cam Ward is a stud. It seems like he.
Delaney Walker
You know, I'll tell you what. He came out with the. What was the Savannah. Savannah Bananas. There's a clip a couple months ago about him and. And Shadur Sander. Sh. Sanders wanted to make a. A song, and he goes, no, I do football. That's what I do. I do football. And now it's coming out with the Savannah Bananas. Like, let's keep the main thing. The main thing, right? Yeah.
JP
It was all the rookies.
Delaney Walker
I'm just saying, man. Man, he has that viral clip that goes out about him being. Hey, I'm a football player. When you look up Cam Ward, it's.
JP
The draft class, and he's the leader of that class. But he's just going to act like he's too good to be with the. The boys.
Delaney Walker
Get in the film room, man.
Will Compton
By the way, why does it feel like you're. You're going against Jack right now? Like Jack's pro.
JP
No, he's going against the city. Remember that.
Delaney Walker
I'm. I'm not going against the city. No, no, no, no. I love Nashville. I love the Titans. I do. It's a joke.
Will Compton
Joke.
Delaney Walker
Relax.
JP
I'm. I'm cool.
Delaney Walker
You want to make a song? He says he doesn't do anything but football, but now he's at the Savannah.
JP
Bananas with his Football team.
Delaney Walker
Okay. In his football stadium.
Will Compton
Weird take, bro.
JP
Weird take.
Delaney Walker
All right, boys. Onward.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, but Curse. What's the first name? Javon.
Clay Matthews
Curse.
Taylor Lewan
Did y' all see that video?
Delaney Walker
Yes.
Taylor Lewan
Oh, my God.
Clay Matthews
Right? No, I missed.
Delaney Walker
He's, like, 40 something. Dude, he is still.
Taylor Lewan
He's stacked. Stacked, stacked, dude. Like, I feel like Terrell Owens is always the guy that gets resurfaced of how they're still jacked, which. I don't know if y' all saw him racing. Tyree Kill.
Clay Matthews
I saw that. Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
No, dude, barely lost to him.
Will Compton
Is this a cat that kind of looks like Terrell?
Taylor Lewan
I'm saying, like, he's like. Yeah. It's like, okay, there's.
Clay Matthews
He's ripped.
Will Compton
Your body fat percentage is.
Delaney Walker
He's got. Got it.
Will Compton
His rookie highlights are insane.
Delaney Walker
Dude, he is. His. His movement, his bend was crazy. That defense for a while there was nice. Yeah. See if you can pull that photo up. Sherm. Javon Cur, Savannah Bananas. He's on the. He's on the. The pitching mound.
Taylor Lewan
And after this, we'll. We got to get into Cam Newton.
Delaney Walker
And Claire, the third one over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. Right.
Clay Matthews
What do you want to get into?
Delaney Walker
We'll talk about it.
Will Compton
Yeah, sorry.
Clay Matthews
I got. No problem.
Delaney Walker
I did see a clip of Clay, too, that I sent to Will or. That I sent to Will, and I was just. Thought I was admiring Clay's effort, but kind of pulled off on a play during the Super Bowl.
Clay Matthews
Oh, Super Bowl. We won that game. Let's get over it. All right.
Delaney Walker
Look at this, man. Oh, yeah.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah.
Delaney Walker
How old is he?
JP
Probably like, mid-40s.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
At least.
Delaney Walker
I mean, good for him, man.
Will Compton
He'll be pushing 50, too.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Honestly.
Will Compton
From Florida Gator.
Delaney Walker
And the nickname.
Will Compton
All right. Yeah. Play of yours, Clay. We always hear the breakdown from Cam Newton on the one where he's like. You're like, watch the wheel.
Clay Matthews
Watch the wheel.
Will Compton
He's like, oh, you've been watching film. Us, too. Watch this.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Like, I. Like, I know people. People think, like, I should be up. Well, well. But, yeah, people think I should be upset about that, but. So we always had signals in the. We go through a meeting, and your DBs and linebackers would be tipped off to signals, you know, Like, I'm sure they'd be watching a rod. We'd be watching camp. So one of his things was, I think, when he went, like, you know, Hulk Hogan flex, and they run the wheel route off that. So the. The bigger issue is how was me as a pass roll rusher alerting the DBs and linebackers about, you know, route concepts? Okay, because watch. Watch McCaffrey here, okay? He runs the angle route now without talking with. Without talking with Cam or, you know, is he running that wheel route right now, or does he break it off? Because Olson pins either Martinez, like, you can see right there. They don't take it. And three, looks like he's become the new number two. He cuts back in. He's wide ass open like, so. Yeah, it looks bad to me because I studied my play film. I knew the route that was coming. As a pass rusher, I'm not even coverage, and he. He makes it happen. But to me, like, I'd love to have a conversation with Cam, be like. Because he, you know, Cam hasn't said anything because he knew I was watching film. That's why he said, oh, you've been watching film? Like, watch this. Like, yeah, I don't know if they. If they switched it up that week, if he just. If CMC ran a. An option route off it. But what I'm most disappointed in him is why I'm the one calling it. You know what I'm saying? It seems like that's what gets me fired up because I'm. I'm a pass rusher, right? But I'm in. I'm in meeting rooms, you know, being my little student of the game, because there's times when I got to be in coverage, and I go, oh, okay. Hey, we got the. We got the wheel route coming. Nobody else is clued into it. That's what gets me fired about the club. Like, I. Like, yeah, Cam made a great play. Like, I. I, you know, let me give the guys flowers like we just talked about at my expense. But, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody wants to make it a big deal. Like, oh, I'm like, bro, I'm a pass rushing on this. And in fact, I'm pissed because I went to do a spin move, and I saw the. The guard lining me up. I tried to pull out of it and got, you know, thrown out the club right here. Nobody's upset about that. But he knew. Yeah, he knew I was watching film. I'd love to chat with Cam about that. I got nothing.
Will Compton
And you're on the other side of the field, too.
Clay Matthews
So I want to do. Hey, watch this. I'll go. I go for a spin move, and I see the guard just like, oh, nope. And then I just get thrown out. Like, damn. So not only you're right too.
Will Compton
Because either way, even if it was a wheelchair route, like, that would have still been.
Clay Matthews
That's what I'm saying.
Will Compton
You guys are running.
Clay Matthews
That's so I'm on the sideline looking at like before I know it goes viral, and I'm like, what? Like, you know, it's tough to be a field captain when you, you know, you're on the first line of defense. That's why playing that inside spot was always so much fun, because you can get guys moving, you can talk about route concepts. I was. That's what I'm most disappointed in right there. Okay.
Will Compton
Yeah, they probably did. Honestly, they probably had such a 100% that they probably self doubt.
Clay Matthews
But that's why if I ever see Cam, I want to holler at him and be like, yeah, hey, hey. On this play, like, let me know. Did, Was that the actual play? Did they, did you option off it? Did, you know, because I called it, you know, whatever it may be, but I knew that, like, that's, that's the type of stuff I studied. I'd rather people be like, clay, how'd you know that? Route concept?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah, don't study my watch film.
Clay Matthews
Hey, watch.
Will Compton
He'd probably tell you, like, yeah, we were 100. We knew we had to change something.
Clay Matthews
And not that I would, I'd feel a little bit more like, all right, good. You know, like, I knew it. I knew it was coming.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, it was my boy. Is that one of those things after the game? Game, you sit in a team meeting room, you stand below. Hey, fellas, we gotta be, we gotta be more aware of this.
Clay Matthews
We were so young right there. I think we had like a rookie at safety. And, you know, there's like, it just, I forget what year that was. Like 17. You just, you know, we, I think we didn't win many games that year. It just, it was the beginning of the end, so to speak.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, that's tough, man.
Will Compton
The Bud Light question that we ask every guest. Yeah. You know how people would do anything for a Bud Light? What would you do anything for?
Delaney Walker
Can't say family.
Clay Matthews
I know. I heard the floor say family. I, I. What would I do anything for?
Delaney Walker
A private jet?
Taylor Lewan
Big turkey. If you're a big turkey hunter.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, no, I do enjoy turkey. Yeah, sure. I like, I like. Dude, every time I drive past, you know, on 65, I see those big billboards for the Powerball in the mega million. Like, man, so I love to, I love to think I'm a dreamer, you know, So I Put myself out there. I look at 300, 400, 500 million, you know, like, what you would do with that? And I played. My wife just, like, laughs at me when I do this. I'm like, babe, what would you. What would you do? What would you do if you had this much money? So, yeah, I guess do anything to win the lottery. Well, I mean, that doesn't sound good when you say it like that.
Delaney Walker
No. No. But can you guys team me up.
Clay Matthews
When I'm coming on what questions I'm gonna be asked too, so I can have good answers?
Will Compton
We do a better job of that. We can do a better job.
Clay Matthews
I mean, I'll give you my honest take on it, but, like, some of the stuff, like, is your. Like, what is your. Whatever you call it, your fix with your sandwiches, like, oh, yeah, we could.
Delaney Walker
Have done a better job for sure. You know, that's for sure.
Will Compton
We're learning 10 year. Because you are part of the family.
Clay Matthews
Hey, you know, you're right. You know, what I do anything for is a. Is a good back right now, is a healthy back. You know, I'm 38. This. I gotta. I gotta go. Yep. That L7 right there is just acting up. A nice back, you know, a younger back.
Will Compton
Hey, we're gonna get. Right.
Clay Matthews
We will.
Will Compton
Some accountability action.
Delaney Walker
That's good. One wants surgery, the other one's doing anything. But.
Clay Matthews
No, no, I don't want surgery. I'm just saying there. I've gotten so desperate that you almost hope that there's, like, oh, you got something pushing on, you know, your nerve here. Just fix it real quick.
Will Compton
You don't want it to be the game where you have to kind of play the long game and have to stay disciplined.
Clay Matthews
I recognize that. That's it. But as I'm not ready to commit to that.
Will Compton
Right. Okay.
Clay Matthews
I'm not ready to commit to that.
Will Compton
We'll work together.
Clay Matthews
Let me know how each other. Let me know when you start going to 4, to 3, to 2, to 1, and then I'll buy in.
Will Compton
Okay. All right.
Delaney Walker
Let me ask you this. Going back on the Powerball, if you did win and it's at $500 million, not telling. But what's the first purchase you're buying?
Clay Matthews
I'd probably try and buy the land around my current property.
Delaney Walker
Try or just do.
Clay Matthews
Do.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. It's just happening.
Clay Matthews
Make it happen.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Sorry.
Delaney Walker
What do you want? This can k. Yeah, no problem. Clay seems like his investments are doing really well.
Clay Matthews
Doing very well.
Will Compton
How much have you spent in one visit for the the lottery. Like getting lottery.
Clay Matthews
$100, actually, when I was in Green Bay. Not this last time. But I go in there, I just drop. Let me get 50 tickets. This was back in Green Bay. Just, you know, if it gets up to like a billion dollars, like, that's usually when I.
Delaney Walker
Anytime you see the B dude, you.
Clay Matthews
Guys, he says, usually when I. And then I sit there, I sit there and then I get no numbers.
Delaney Walker
I'm.
Clay Matthews
I'm never playing this again. I'm never. Hey, I'm never doing rehab. I'm My back again. And then I get hurt. You know, it's just so many what if games.
Delaney Walker
What if this hits to win the lottery?
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
God, that would be.
Clay Matthews
That's hundreds of millions just in your pocket. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
You want the lump sum or you want to do a monthly lump? Give me that lump, brother. Yeah. Oh, it's actually 60 tax. Don't care. I'll take 400 million. Yeah, Bink, right there. Just imagine that one.
Clay Matthews
That's what I like doing. I like imagining. I hate all the people. Like, oh, you've already been blessed, so. Yeah. All right. Okay.
Delaney Walker
All right.
Clay Matthews
Let me drink.
Delaney Walker
All right. Yeah, let me just dream.
Clay Matthews
Sorry.
Delaney Walker
You were super talented and hard working. It all worked out for you. But let me get some luck as well.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I got six bucks in my pocket. Yeah, I want three tickets. Random numbers. I'll share with you up front, buddy. Make friends with all at the quick trip out there.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, you do got to break off. Whoever bought you those tickets, I think.
Clay Matthews
Well, I think they do. I think the, you know, whomever sells it, they get a cut of it. Not of yours, but like, you know, the lottery.
Delaney Walker
I think we need to look that. That up. We need to look that up.
Will Compton
That's why gas stations get faceless.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Yeah. All the really nice gas stations, like, they won. Yeah, they won it.
Clay Matthews
There's always like an incentive and then more. Then more people will go there to buy the ticket thinking there's a lucky ticket.
Delaney Walker
And it's never in like a. A busy area. It's always like some.
Clay Matthews
You got to drive out in the.
Will Compton
Middle of nowhere, somewhere in the middle.
Delaney Walker
That might be a vlog for us, dude. We just all drive out, three hours, some random spot and buy a b. I got 10,000 worth of lottery tickets. Could you imagine? I'm buying a plane. That's the first thing I'm doing.
Clay Matthews
I've thought about this.
Delaney Walker
Go ahead.
Clay Matthews
I don't know if I'd buy it or just. Would you just because think about it, you know you're gonna spend 73 million, give or take.
Delaney Walker
That's brand new. I'm gonna get one that's about five, six years old.
Clay Matthews
Oh, really?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, because the appreciation is crazy.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. What, 30, 40, 35. But why don't you just pocket that and then just have it on? I would like a Gulf Stream, you know, whatever it is. And that way you just chartered at whatever you don't have the upkeep pilots. I think there's something nice about having that. But are you going to use it as much as you think you are?
Delaney Walker
If I'm still doing this, this is.
Clay Matthews
How deep I've dove into this.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but think about this. You're sitting there, we're all hanging out in your backyard, you own all the land, and we're talking like, man, you know what? UFC is going down to Miami tonight.
Clay Matthews
And it's like, let me call my broker.
Delaney Walker
No, let me call.
Clay Matthews
Me call my pilot.
Delaney Walker
My pilot. Hey, get the jet ready. The boys are coming over right now. Cuz, a broker. It's like there's a bunch of back and forth. They're running the numbers on you. All this stuff, you just call the guy. Hey.
Clay Matthews
Yes, sir.
Delaney Walker
I'm letting you know. Yeah. Yes, Mr. Matthews. And by the way, we want sandwiches. And I'm not paying $200 for it.
Clay Matthews
Thank you.
Delaney Walker
That's right.
Clay Matthews
Gosh. Nickel and diamond.
Delaney Walker
Me, it's called the call pack. What happens here? Well, I don't know. What are you buying?
Will Compton
Oh, with the. With the money?
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Oh, I'd want to get a jet.
Delaney Walker
The jets?
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
You ain't going anywhere.
Delaney Walker
Busing would have a jet. Bus would have a jet.
Taylor Lewan
Where would you go?
Will Compton
Anywhere.
Delaney Walker
We'll just go to Bonaire. Bonaire come back.
Will Compton
Y' all are trapped. Tripping. Y' all are stuck to something that's not even there. You say I don't go outside. You say I don't travel. I hit the. I hit. I hit the streets all the time. We travel all the time.
Delaney Walker
We do travel all the time.
Will Compton
Aren't you taking your first trip to Europe this year? Yeah. Your first trip.
Delaney Walker
How many times you been to Europe?
Taylor Lewan
A couple times when I was 22 years old.
Will Compton
Hey. Actually, three. Three times.
Delaney Walker
Oh, for real?
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
You've been to Europe three times?
Delaney Walker
That's two more times than me. Yeah, and mine was for football.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
Do What?
Delaney Walker
Is that 30A or like.
Will Compton
Actually, no. Went to Munich, Germany.
Clay Matthews
Is that for football?
Will Compton
London.
Delaney Walker
That doesn't count.
Will Compton
And Italy, You've been to Europe?
Taylor Lewan
One time on your own time.
Will Compton
I've still went three times.
Delaney Walker
He's crossed that pond.
Will Compton
I've still hit the hofbra house in Munich, Germany. I've still, like, enjoyed the culture and complained about everything being small.
Clay Matthews
No, my. When I was with the Rams, I was supposed to, but I was nursing a broken jaw, so I missed that. But no, I've been. I've been to Europe. She's a good old boy.
Will Compton
Hit it up, bro.
Clay Matthews
I'd like to, but I got these kids, you know, they need to learn how to eat better so that way I can take them on many more vacations. This is the. This is what I talk to them all the time about. Like, we can't just have macaroni, pizza, french fries and act like we're going to be okay for seven days. You know, we're not. You know, you can't have mom put you to bed every night.
Delaney Walker
Night. Got it. Yeah. We got to learn how to operate a little bit better, you know? Brings it all back.
Clay Matthews
Some issues. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Do we feel good, boys? Is there anything we want to say before we jump off? Episode 328? We feel good. We're happy. Yeah. Let's give another round of applause for Clay man. Welcome to busting with the boys.
Clay Matthews
Thank you.
Will Compton
Gonna be a hell of a year.
Delaney Walker
Hell of a year.
Will Compton
Hell of a season, Clay.
Clay Matthews
It'll be good.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
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Podcast Summary: Bussin' Hires Clay Matthews + Draft Day Prank Tell All & NFL Futures Predictions
Podcast Information:
[03:00] Will Compton:
"Welcome to episode 328 of Busting with the Boys. We are brought to you by the number one sports in America, the FanDuel Sportsbook."
Note: Advertisements, intros, and outros have been omitted as per instructions.
[02:15] Clay Matthews:
"Larry himself reached out to us."
[02:17] Taylor Lewan:
"Larry reached out to us on one of my g-mails and then we made it happen. We hopped on a Zoom call with the squad, and I loved the NBA. When I was a kid, I loved the NBA more than any other sport. So to see it here, dream come true."
[03:02] Delaney Walker:
"Massive news in the bus with the boys universe this fall. The locker room will include super bowl champion Clay Matthews as our consistent fourth chair."
[04:31] Delaney Walker:
"We talk about bets. You're like, okay, what do we do? It's like, really? We just watch the games and talk about who we think is going to win next based on the odds for the next week. And you came on, dude, and you just flood with the boys like it was nothing. It was great."
Summary:
In this episode, the hosts announce the addition of Clay Matthews, a Super Bowl champion, to their team. Matthews shares his initial reservations about joining the podcast and media but expresses excitement about the comfortable environment that allows him to speak his mind freely.
[31:03] Delaney Walker:
"Can you just run down that process?"
[33:36] Clay Matthews:
"I ran a prank during the NFL Draft by holding up a fake letter supposedly from President Trump, making a playful dig at the Chicago Bears."
[34:22] Clay Matthews:
"They were super cool about it. Roger Goodell even took a picture with it."
[35:44] Clay Matthews:
"President Trump texted me complimenting my fiery approach, and it turned into a memorable interaction."
[36:37] Delaney Walker:
"This was a 10 out of 10 delivery. It was awesome."
[37:25] Clay Matthews:
"Meeting President Trump was an incredible experience. It all went over really well."
Summary:
Clay Matthews recounts a memorable prank he pulled during the NFL Draft, where he presented a fake letter from President Trump. The prank was well-received, leading to unexpected positive interactions, including a commendatory text from Trump himself. Matthews highlights the camaraderie and positive reception from both his peers and the NFL.
[05:28] Will Compton:
"Clay does NBA picks. How do you feel about that?"
[06:35] Clay Matthews:
"My brother gives me NBA picks based on extensive research, though we've had some unlucky outcomes recently."
[07:48] Will Compton:
"Does our guy have a pick for the NBA Finals? Who's gonna win it all?"
[07:55] Clay Matthews:
"I think the Celtics are going to win. Indianapolis is looking great, but Boston is just that good."
[08:14] Delaney Walker:
"I love Clay's pick because the Lakers are out, and I'm gonna lean on my dog, Clay."
[09:32] Clay Matthews:
"I like Anthony Edwards. He has the swagger we need. His mentality is something we don't see enough in the NBA."
[10:04] Will Compton:
"He's got some old school in him."
[11:06] Delaney Walker:
"The NBA is difficult to predict, but Clay's insights are valuable."
Summary:
The discussion shifts to sports betting, with Clay Matthews sharing his NBA Finals prediction favoring the Celtics. The hosts delve into the complexities of NBA predictions and emphasize the thorough research behind their betting strategies. Matthews also touches on UFC betting, sharing recent challenges and the influence of his brother's picks.
[13:20] Clay Matthews:
"So I played all sports when I was a kid..."
[15:34] Delaney Walker:
"My daughters are getting into jiu-jitsu. It's about building confidence and resilience."
[16:23] Delaney Walker:
"Seven and four-year-olds—coaching flag football is rewarding."
[17:49] Clay Matthews:
"Coaching these kids is about teaching them to win and be great, not just have fun."
[20:15] Delaney Walker:
"How do you turn a kid who cried playing two snaps into someone who loves the game?"
[20:28] Clay Matthews:
"Consistency and building their confidence are key."
[21:08] Delaney Walker:
"Fighting through insecurity and fear is essential for kids."
[25:25] Delaney Walker:
"Helping my daughter overcome stage fright by supporting her through her preparation."
Summary:
The hosts engage in a heartfelt discussion about parenting and coaching young children in sports. Clay Matthews shares his philosophy on coaching flag football, emphasizing the importance of teaching kids to strive for greatness and building their confidence. Delaney Walker discusses challenges and strategies in encouraging her daughters to engage in activities like jiu-jitsu and overcoming fears such as stage fright.
[44:50] Clay Matthews:
"I have two girls on our team. We're accepting all genders."
[53:59] Clay Matthews:
"I've got two girls on our team. We're accepting all genders."
[60:15] Will Compton:
"I'm digging into Medicine 3.0 at Paradigm to address my recurring back issues."
[61:25] Clay Matthews:
"Back pain is a vicious cycle. I'm contemplating surgical options but hesitant to commit to a healthier lifestyle."
[64:02] Will Compton:
"Got a little spasm from surfing. Trying band distraction to decompress my spine."
[66:04] Delaney Walker:
"I have a little knee thing, but my spine is the most terrifying."
[67:01] Clay Matthews:
"Commitment to a healthier lifestyle is challenging but necessary to prevent future issues."
Summary:
The conversation turns personal as the hosts discuss their own health and fitness challenges. Clay Matthews and Will Compton delve into their struggles with back pain, exploring solutions like physical therapy and advanced medical approaches. Delaney Walker shares her experiences with knee issues, emphasizing the importance of proactive health management to maintain an active lifestyle.
[41:38] Delaney Walker:
"My fondest memory is LeBron's comeback in the Finals after being down three-one."
[43:13] Clay Matthews:
"I enjoy seeing former players give praise to legends like Jordan and Kobe. It's refreshing."
[43:53] Clay Matthews:
"As a fan, it's nice to see players express appreciation for others' greatness."
[44:47] Will Compton:
"Apollo 'The Rock' talks about appreciating the game from a fan's perspective."
Summary:
The hosts reminisce about memorable moments in NBA Finals history, highlighting LeBron James' remarkable comeback. They also express admiration for how former players honor legends like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, appreciating the genuine respect and camaraderie observed during such interactions. This segment underscores their deep appreciation for the artistry and sportsmanship in basketball.
[83:50] Delaney Walker:
"I think this is the Bills year. Super Bowl, finally."
[85:28] Will Compton:
"Texans are likely to win the AFC South, but Titans and Colts have potential."
[85:57] Clay Matthews:
"Detroit has the 'it' factor in the NFC North. Packers remain strong contenders."
[86:48] Clay Matthews:
"Jeff Florence's rookie, Jamar Chase, and others are shaping up well for future success."
[90:05] Delaney Walker:
"Discussing the Bengals' contract negotiations and draft picks."
[94:37] Clay Matthews:
"Rookie contracts and their impact on team dynamics."
Summary:
The hosts provide their insights and predictions for the upcoming NFL season. Delaney Walker confidently backs the Buffalo Bills for a Super Bowl run, while Clay Matthews analyzes the strength of the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers in the NFC North. Discussions also cover the complexities of rookie contracts, team roster decisions, and the financial dynamics affecting franchises like the Cincinnati Bengals. Their predictions reflect a deep understanding of team performances and player potentials.
[44:50] Will Compton:
"Trying to stay disciplined despite midday sleepiness from improved sleep patterns."
[76:25] Will Compton:
"Planning to explore Medicine 3.0 to prevent recurring injuries."
[84:25] Delaney Walker:
"Attended a wedding in Knoxville, highlighting the convenience of staying on property."
[87:42] Clay Matthews:
"Imagining life with substantial lottery winnings, focusing on real estate investments."
Summary:
This segment features personal reflections and achievements of the hosts. Will Compton discusses his commitment to improving his health through advanced medical practices, while Delaney Walker shares insights from attending a destination wedding and the benefits of staying on-site. Clay Matthews humorously imagines life-changing lottery wins and the practical investments he would make, showcasing their aspirations beyond the field.
[74:01] Will Compton:
"Shout out to Bojangles for their delicious offerings and sponsorship."
[76:49] Will Compton:
"Shout out to Snot Suckers for helping with kids' congestion."
[80:05] JP:
"Shout out to staying on property at travel weddings for convenience."
[84:20] Taylor Lewan:
"Shout out to Spencer Rattler from New Orleans."
[85:57] JP:
"Shout out to staying on property during weddings for better experiences."
[116:42] Delaney Walker:
"Shout out to staying on property for wedding convenience and comfort."
Summary:
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with their community by giving shoutouts to sponsors and supporters. They acknowledge brands like Bojangles and Snot Suckers, emphasizing their contributions to the podcast and listeners' lives. Additionally, they recognize individuals within their listener base, fostering a sense of community and appreciation.
[121:39] Will Compton:
"Gonna be a hell of a year."
[121:38] Clay Matthews:
"Thank you."
[121:38] Delaney Walker:
"Gonna be a hell of a season, Clay."
Summary:
In closing, the hosts express excitement and optimism for the upcoming sports seasons. They acknowledge their guest, Clay Matthews, appreciating his contributions and looking forward to an engaging and successful year ahead.
This episode provides a comprehensive blend of sports commentary, personal anecdotes, and interactive discussions, making it a valuable listen for both regular followers and newcomers to "Bussin' With The Boys."