Cam Ward On Rebuilding Titans, Being #1 NFL Draft Pick + Tyler Lockett & Corey Levin | Bussin'

Summary

Bussin' With The Boys: Cam Ward On Rebuilding Titans, Being #1 NFL Draft Pick + Tyler Lockett & Corey Levin

Release Date: August 26, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton & Taylor Lewan
Guests: Cam Ward, Tyler Lockett, Corey Levin

---

Episode Overview

This extra-long, highly anticipated episode dives deep into both college and NFL football as the 2025 season kicks off. The boys first tackle the week's biggest headlines, their signature banter, wild stories (including a viral family scuffle in Ireland), and some spicy "Ro Tier" talk.
The back half features exclusive interviews with new Titans quarterback and first overall pick Cam Ward, veteran wide receiver Tyler Lockett, and O-line stalwart Corey Levin. The episode explores leadership, transition to the pros, NIL chaos, the Titans' rebuilding future, and life both on and off the field.
Perfect for hardcore football fans and anyone wanting locker room energy and player perspective.

---

1. Football Headlines & Preseason Vibes

Timecodes: 03:53 – 27:39

Football Is Back!

• The boys are hyped for football’s return, with witty banter about the perfect “football weather” and an optimistic outlook for the upcoming season.
• Quote:
  “If you're having a tough day, just go ahead, get you a good night's sleep, because soon it's going to be a whole lot better.” – Will Compton (06:41)

College Football Chatter

• In-depth discussion of College Football Week Zero, heavy focus on betting takes, Nebraska (Compton’s squad) vs. Cincinnati, and broader outlooks for Michigan, Kansas State, and Iowa State.
• Concerns about Nebraska’s head coach Matt Rule launching a podcast right before kickoff – distraction or innovation?
• Quote:
  "If you want to take an hour out of your week and do a podcast, I love that he's standing, by the way. Great for the body." – Will Compton (24:07)

The Locker Room & New Content

• The boys hype their expanding brand, including the new “Locker Room” series and their ambitious, documentary-style "Rear View Mirror" looking back at the Trump interview.
• Production value praised as "Netflix-level" (34:46).

---

2. NFL News, Titans Talk, & Free Agency

Timecodes: 27:40 – 53:11

NFL Rumblings

• Early over/unders for teams, breakout player predictions.
• Deep dive into the Tennessee Titans' off-season, expectations for Cam Ward as a rookie QB, and concerns about the Titans' defensive backfield depth:
  "I think the national media, the football casual fan is sleeping on the talent that the Titans can put out there." – Taylor Lewan (43:43)

Around the League

• Big contracts signed (Terry McLaurin re-upped with Commanders, 46:03), implications for trades and roster moves (suggestions Titans could trade for Trey Hendrickson or even Micah Parsons).
• The Cowboys' and Jerry Jones' media posturing with the Micah Parsons contract dispute.
  "See, what you want about Jerry Jones and how he's operating, that star on the helmet is just different." – Taylor Lewan (49:02)

Browns QB Conspiracy Theories

• Spirited debate about the Browns’ crowded quarterback room – dismissing wild conspiracy theories that Shadur Sanders was “set up to fail.”
• The boys stress reality of roster politics for late-round/undrafted guys:
  "Nobody's coming to save you. You're going to be on your own island... There is not a fucking chance... someone is making a decision to not block for somebody because they will lose their job. That is so dumb." – Will Compton (54:00)

---

3. Locker Room Culture & Spicy “Ro Tier” Segment

Timecodes: 53:12 – 74:53

Locker Room Superstitions & Player Etiquette

• The boys share stories of “running out of gas,” bad first pitches, and football superstitions.
• Locker room culture, camaraderie, and navigating veteran/newcomer relationships.

“Ro Tier” Talk: Role Play Edition

• The boys embrace vulnerability (and plenty of laughs) exploring fantasies and awkwardness around bedroom role play.
• Memorable bit:
  First-ever on-mic locker room “role play” improv, with Will and Sherm (Taylor) doing a cringeworthy but hilarious teacher-student scene.
  • “I always try to make jokes and then Taylor’s like, what are you doing?” – Will, on why laughter ruins his role-play game (74:32)

---

4. Feature Interview: Cam Ward – Titans’ No. 1 NFL Draft Pick

Timecodes: 77:03 – 104:52

Transition to the NFL & Leadership

• Discusses the steepest learning curve: NFL’s complex playcalls, the importance of over-communicating, using VR, and self-testing with teammates.
• Quote:
  "Each word means something for everybody. In college, we can have one word and everybody know what to do. [In the NFL], how long, how wordy they can get...very different." – Cam Ward (78:10)
• Leadership style: Believes the QB is a leader by default, but his approach is to “say what I feel”; credits parents:
  "My parents, they real old school – they believe in whoopings, they believe in taking stuff away... They raised me well." (83:15)

NIL, Transfer Portal Chaos

• Candid insight on the transfer process and wild recruiting stories – including trying to recruit star receiver Jeremiah Smith as a package to Miami ("If I would have just committed a little bit sooner, I could have had him" – 94:40).
• Emphasizes the value and challenges of NIL: “College football is a job... you have a way different schedule than a basketball player.”

Focus/Motivation & Relationship with Shadur Sanders

• Ward’s self-discipline and “football-first” mentality—a running theme.
• Speaks highly of fellow rookie QB Shadur Sanders (denies any rivalry):
  “This whole process, me and him were going to be one and two the whole time... That’s just always been our mindset.” – Cam Ward (95:17)
• Addresses drama after his last Miami bowl game—shutting down social media speculation with direct, calm clarity about the plan with coaches (97:02).

Titans Draft Experience & Early Impressions

• Recaps his draft day, being selected by the Titans:
  “That was their first time to get to see me throw in person… you don’t know until your name get called.” (100:52)
• Names the D-linemen he most looks forward to facing: Maxx Crosby, Chris Jones.
• Quote:
  "I always have fun with those guys [the D-Line]...they think everything is a sack, I'm telling them it’s not a sack." – Cam Ward (103:08)

---

5. Interview: Tyler Lockett – Veteran WR & Renaissance Man

Timecodes: 106:01 – 119:16

Longevity & Adaptation in the NFL

• Lockett reflects on reaching Year 11:
  “I just wanted to play eight [years]…right now I’m just in overtime.” (106:06)
• Candid discussion about evolving as a player, learning from his dad and uncle, and how special teams and “availability” drove his career longevity.

Seahawks to Titans: Culture Shifts

• Talks philosophies from Pete Carroll (fun, self-motivation) to Mike Vrabel (military style) to new Titans head coach “Cali” (balance of both).

Off-Field Passions

• Real estate, poetry, and TV binging (“I could sit at the house from sun up to sun down and just watch TV” – 115:19).
• Unveils his love for analyzing plot twists and parallels to film study.

On Cam Ward

• “He lives, sleeps, breathes football... The biggest thing for a rookie is the mentality – understanding defenses and the copycat nature of the NFL. He’s doing a great job." (114:01)

---

6. Interview: Corey Levin – Titans’ O-Line “Glue Guy”

Timecodes: 123:06 – 139:29

Career Resilience

• Stunning nine-year survivor of NFL roster churn:
  “When did you come here? 2017... after bouncing around the league, I started missing it.” (123:56, 127:20)
• Shares his journey through being released, practice squads, even contemplating quitting football after stints in Denver, Chicago, and the Patriots.
• Discusses defining moments that reignited his passion (including some tongue-in-cheek locker room hazing).

Titans O-Line Culture

• The Titans’ OL room is praised as a special environment.
• “Year three, glue guy—gotta keep the standard that was set." (126:00)
• Locker room staple, provider of snacks and comedic relief.

On Cam Ward’s Maturity

• “It’s the bounce back. If he has a bad throw or a bad period, the next one he’s trying to bounce back with the same confidence.” (132:51)
• Emphasizes that Ward immediately commanded respect, even as a rookie, for his leadership and attitude.

---

7. Locker Room Fun & Closing Chatter

Timecodes: 139:30 – end

• Bonding over Titans culture, uniforms (“jacking all season long” – running joke about OL Jack Conklin’s technique), team superstitions (smelling salts!), and aspirations to play through the opening of the new Titans stadium.
• “Biscuit” (Levin) gets love as the chat’s glue guy.

---

Notable Quotes/Sound Bites

• “If you're having a tough day, just go ahead, get you a good night's sleep, because soon it's going to be a whole lot better.” – Will (06:41)
• “If you want to take an hour out of your week and do a podcast, I love that he's standing, by the way. Great for the body.” – Will (24:07)
• "This whole process, me and Shadur were going to be one and two the whole time… That’s just always been our mindset.” – Cam Ward (95:17)
• “Nobody's coming to save you. You're going to be on your own island... There is not a fucking chance... someone is making a decision to not block for somebody because they will lose their job. That is so dumb.” – Will (54:00)
• “When he talks, we listen. He brought us up after the first Atlanta practice…and when he talks, we listen…” – Corey Levin on Cam Ward (133:11)

---

Key Takeaways for Listeners

• The future is bright for the Titans, as the locker room seems invested in the new leadership and the culture is strong.
• Cam Ward combines humility, mental toughness, and studious preparation—he’s all business but loose enough to connect with teammates.
• Tyler Lockett exemplifies what it takes to have a long NFL career thanks to self-awareness and off-field balance.
• Corey Levin’s saga is a masterclass in persistence and thriving under the radar—essential listening for aspiring pros.
• Will and Taylor’s blend of raw football talk, inside jokes, and oversharing make this a top-tier episode for lovers of football culture.

---

Timestamps at a Glance

• 03:53 – Season kickoff, headlines
• 09:46 – College football week zero breakdown (Nebraska, Kansas State, Iowa State)
• 24:07 – Matt Rule podcast debate
• 31:31 – Rear View Mirror (Trump interview doc)
• 43:43 – Outlook for the Titans and Cam Ward
• 53:12 – Browns QB room debunking
• 68:14 – Ro Tier Talk: Role play segment (locker room laughs)
• 77:03 – Cam Ward interview begins
• 106:01 – Tyler Lockett interview begins
• 123:06 – Corey Levin interview begins

---

For Fans of:

Locker room stories, honest player talk, rookie-to-vet transitions, and the inside track on how NFL teams rebuild from the ground up—plus, a heavy dose of signature Bussin’ With The Boys banter.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. As always, it's your boy Will Compton, my co host, Taylor Lawan. We have a loaded a loaded show where we talk of the first half of the episode. We'll be knocking out football headlines, college and NFL. We'll be having some fun stories. There's a little spicy road to your talk where we talk about role play. A little segment does happen. You're going to feel a little weird at first, but just it's normal for the show. It's normal for the programming. If you're here for our interviews, Cam Moore, Tyler Lockett, we're Corey Levin, Cam Ward. That will be in the back half of the episode. We appreciate you so much for tuning in. If you're watching right now, please make sure you are subscribed. And here's what I want to say. If you enjoy the show, if you enjoy what you listen to, if you enjoy the boys, you enjoy the locker room, you enjoy the banter, you enjoy football season, simply all we ask is that you subscribe to the show. Follow us on Spotify. Follow us on Apple. We got a lot coming up this season. Huskers play Listen, Huskers play this Thursday and I do have an announcement, some housekeeping items that I'm going to address. We are doing, as you guys know, our bus and live show that's kicking off September 19th before the bus and Bowl. Those tickets are selling out fast. If you want to secure a ticket to go to the live show, I don't know, there's not very many left, but it's bwtb.com we are also announcing I got right here in my hand. We are doing a tailgate on the morning of September 20th before the bus and bowl where we will be at Haymarket park at 11am RSVP at the link in this YouTube description or the bio on our socials to secure your spot. This is going to be huge, boys. Another announcement with a partner that we've been working with that's been near and dear to our heart that we both play for the Tennessee Titans. We've teamed up with the Tennessee Titans for an official watch party this fall. Week 5 October 5th against the Arizona Cardinals. It's an official collab. October 5th watch party. Titans versus Cardinals the Brooklyn Bow Brooklyn bowl tickets are on sale now. BWTB.com we will see you there. This is a fun episode. Again, we appreciate you for being here. We appreciate you listening to us at work, at home, whatever you're doing. Thank you so much from the boys to you. Big Hut Tiny kisses. Enjoy this episode.

[B]

You can make a difference in someone's.

[A]

Life, including your own, with a job in home care.

[C]

These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime.

[D]

Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply.

[C]

That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.

[E]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, hydro Silk razors and Edge Shave Gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four times points to use for later discounts on groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end Sept.9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[D]

All right, we're good.

[B]

Be like busing with the boys. Hanging with the fer Betting on a game.

[F]

No woman's gonna tell us what to.

[B]

Do and I've been over here.

[F]

Just drinking beer and making that noise, baby. I'm hanging with the fellas. Busting with the boys, bro.

[A]

Welcome to Busting with the boys. Episode 343 Football's back.

[B]

Football's back.

[A]

Football is back.

[B]

Football. If you're wondering when it's going to be back, it's back.

[A]

Let's do the ad. Let's do the AD before we ramp up because we're here because people are.

[B]

Going to tell more. Talk about football.

[A]

The air outside, the sunshine that what is it in the 70s all week?

[B]

It was 67 degrees when I was driving in today.

[A]

And I want to say at lsu, Clemson is going to be cool when we're at Ohio State, Texas. It's going to be the opening morning is going to be like in the upper 40s.

[B]

It's going to be nice. Football, football is.

[A]

And busting with the boys is strongly, beautifully, powerfully presented by FanDuel, the FanDuel Sportsbook, the number one sportsbook in America. Boys, if you're tuned into the show on Tuesday, August 26th, Futures Day is live right now on FanDuel. Happy Futures Day from the FanDuel sports book. We're talking 24 hours of boost bonuses and bragging rights on all your favorite football season picks today only. Every single person gets an instant bonus on on any football futures bet.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You think your team's going over their win total? Lock it in you're feeling crazy and want to parlay eight division winners.

[B]

Lock it in.

[A]

You want to ride with the boys in our picks?

[B]

Lock them in.

[A]

Whatever your game is, you choose how you want to play it today at FanDuel and make sure to check back in the app every three hours for special flash deals on football futures. Head on over to FanDuel to claim your Futures day promos and lock in your picks. FanDuel play your game 21 + and present in select states for Kansas in.

[C]

Affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18/.

[A]

And present in D.C. opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boost tokens.

[C]

Restrictions apply including any token expiration and max wager amount. See [e-mail] Gambling problem.

[A]

Call 1-800- Gambler or visit rg-help.com, call.

[C]

1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org Chattinc here Gambling Helpline ma.org or call 800-327-550.

[A]

For 24. 7 support in Massachusetts, visit www.mdgambling help.org.

[C]

In Maryland, call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY 467369 in New York.

[B]

I love it. Josh Pay said it perfect. It's March Jam Pack show. It's March Wednesday. Got it. Bad Wednesday. There's nothing we can do for you today. You have a tough Monday. Don't worry, you've got this Thursday, you've got this Friday. You've got this Saturday. Hell, you even got Sunday. And that's just a college football slate next week. Having a bad Tuesday. Guess what? We got Thursday, we got Friday, we got Saturday, we got Sunday. Football is here from now till almost the second quarter of next year. So if you're having a tough day, go ahead, get you a good night's sleep because soon it's going to be a whole lot better. I lost my toes. Go ahead. Lost my train of thought. I know football's back.

[A]

You're excited.

[B]

I'm very.

[A]

You're excited. The Huskers play this Thursday.

[B]

They do. And it's here's the best prime time.

[A]

Television and the thing that fires Cincinnati Bearcats. Go ahead. The thing that Rule Year three, the era. Go ahead.

[B]

History. History. Yeah, Matt Rule, Year three and the fire. The thing that fires me up is everybody's making this out to be a big game because it's neutral site. And Cincinnati was good four years ago, five years ago when Fickle was there. I have no doubts right now that Nebraska is covering -6 and a half. It's almost.

[A]

I thought it was salty. I thought.

[B]

I know. Yeah, I know.

[A]

I, you know, I'm moving the line.

[B]

I'm on that with you. I'm on that. I might not move the line as much as you, but I am with you on -6 and a half. That's more of a locker room thing. The locker room come out?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wednesdays it comes out at 6pm comes out at 6pm on Wednesdays. That's the college football Thursday, 6am is when the NFL portion comes out. That is how the locker room schedule is going to work this season. Obviously we have Thanksgivings, we have these other things. We'll figure all that out as it goes.

[A]

If you're sitting there rocked up and you happen to miss the locker room debut last week we have Josh Pate with the boys. College football. Taylor just said it. Every Wednesday at 6pm the boys and Josh Pate, NFL's locker room. You got the boys with Delaney Walker and Clay Matthews. That's all season long, gentlemen. That is all season long. Great news coming off of last week. Over a thousand people subscribe, new subscribers when tuning into those shows. Really, people are rocked up. They're ready to go for this football season.

[B]

People are juice up. I will say this, if we're playing a transparency game every year week one of the locker room or whatever gambling show we're doing kind of has that big spike. It's up to me, you, everybody on this bus and everybody who watches this show to make sure that we're following the picks all year long.

[A]

But that's we're doing deliver a great.

[B]

Product for people to deliver a great product. I'd like to think week zero futures picks went very well.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think everybody was dialed in. Everybody was locked in. Clay Matthews came in with an absolute bang on the NFL locker room. Josh Pate, encyclopedia guy is incredible. Any team you want to talk about, I can just say a team to him. He's going to start rattling off transfers, transfers in, transfers out. OC Changes, DC changes how the school looks, the vibe, the culture, everything. Josh Pate's that guy.

[A]

Don't sleep on yourself now. You say Taylor one Arizona State. Go. You know everything about Arizona.

[B]

I am, I did. But I'm, I'm more of like a. I'm like I can sprinkle on a certain team here and there. I'm not as widely versed as Josh Paytas. You got him on.

[A]

That's why we got.

[B]

We got him on. Because I know when it Comes to Nebraska football. You have an idea of what's going on around there?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You have an idea?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Speaking of Nebraska football, speaking of podcast, Matt Rule House Rules first episode just came out. I watched 10, 15 minutes of it. I want to know what you think.

[A]

Time out. I've got to place this bed.

[B]

Here's what I.

[A]

It's Futures Day. It's Futures day.

[D]

Also.

[A]

Nebraska right now is +320. If you want to go 10 + wins on the season, people. We saw this was week zero of college football on Futures Day. This was a past bet, present bet, but we know there's a little bit of a Will Compton curse out there sometime. He goes on bad betting streaks. And I couldn't help but be watching the Kansas State game open up Twitter. And he places a live bet. And he says, now we push money line. Kansas State doesn't hit. It was. So it's week zero. Iowa State scores. So we're down. Kansas State's down 10.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm looking like, okay, do I hedge here? Do I go, you know, Kansas State to cover. I think it was sitting around nine and a half, but the odds just weren't tickling my pickle the way I wanted it to. J.P. and I just saw Kansas State plus a thousand. It was either plus a thousand or ten thousand something. It was plus a thousand plus a thousand. And, you know, okay, am I going to chase with minus nine and a half to cover like 250, whatever my unit is. 250. 500 is kind of my unit range. Or do I just take 50 and sprinkle the money line on Kansas State?

[B]

Right?

[A]

And what do you know? I pound it and they bomb score, score right when they get the ball, and I'm like, oh, my God, I might be a fucking genius right now. And, you know, Kansas State ended up losing the ball game.

[B]

Now, in the locker room, College Football Edition, you said Kansas State is going to win the Big 12. Does your opinion change at all after watching?

[A]

I think the Big 12 is so wide open. It's a long season. And that does. You sit there, you look at Iowa State, you see, where's it rock go?

[B]

Yeah. Which, by the way, I fell in love with him during that football game.

[A]

Coach Campbell, they can run the ball. Well, that little white boy in the backfield now, he was. He was toting the rock.

[B]

Nothing gets you more rocked up than a white boy toting the rock.

[A]

Yeah, but they can run the ball a little bit. Kansas State's got to figure out who they want to be like, it's like Avery Johnson has this ceiling and everybody wants him to touch this ceiling. But after watching that performance, the grace I give him is just that the elements in the environment. There's a wet ball field. You're going to Ireland, you're doing all these different things. But the way he handled, handled himself in a couple, couple of pressure situations. It's like, are we just going to get the same guy? Because if it's the same guy, you're going to be looking at a four loss season again. Four or five. You're going to get that floor with the coach climbing every time. He's a culture guy.

[B]

Culture.

[A]

They him going through the air. You just got to build it in the run game. You got to lean on him. You got to lean on him. I'll give you an example. It was like. And also drop balls everywhere. Week zero. You got to assume there's going to be bad football being played. A lot of off the field stuff too. A lot of off the field. Yeah, yeah, we'll get to the, we'll get to the Johnson scuffle. The g, the, the, the Johnson coffee date.

[B]

Johnson and Johnson scuffle.

[A]

Yeah, the Johnson and Johnson scuffle after the game. But there was one where it's like Iowa State pressured them and they're running to zero bullets. Offensive line did a poor job picking it up, but somebody came screaming right down the middle. There's a dude, you know, wide open on that slot. He doesn't. Or Johnson, he, Avery, he doesn't see it and he gets an intentional grounding penalty. To me, it's like those cool, calm, poised quarterbacks that are tapping into their ceiling in college football. They're going to know what to do with the ball. If they see the offensive line break down in front of them. They're obviously, they see pressures coming. You're assuming nobody's going to come scot free up the middle. I think the offensive line had a brain fart there, but the quarterback usually knows what to do when they are absolutely dialed the fuck in. Yeah, they won't be, you know, falling back, getting. Not to the line of scrimmage and getting a grounding penalty, in my opinion. Yeah, I think seeing his head on a swivel, it's like those moments right there. And there's also drop balls. Like there's this cat. I think his last name is Bradley, number five. It's like a fourth and seven, fourth and eight guys wide open. He drops the ball.

[B]

No doubt.

[A]

But we're not hitting the panic button.

[B]

Specifically talking about that. That play where Avery Johnson kind of scooted over to the right a little bit, didn't get it past the line of scrimmage, get an intentional ground and call in the fourth and whatever. Avery Johnson shows flashes of, like, amazing athletic ability. He can run the ball really well. He's a powerful career. He's got. He's got some savviness in the. On the east, west category. But when I look at him throw the football, one, his motion doesn't. I mean, I'm not a quarterback coach. You guys seen me throw a ball. I'm not the greatest. Like, I don't have the greatest arm motion in the world, but if I'm watching a D1 quarterback, his. His release looks a little different to me. And he has cats. This is after the weather subsides in the first and second quarter. This is now, you know, the game is officially, like. People are getting into a groove of the game. I'm watching Avery Johnson. I'm watching Rocco Becht. Yes, I am seeing Rocco Becket. At one point, he is 5 for 12 in completion. His completions, however, I saw four or five drops that were like, right in the breadbasket, right in the hands, where.

[A]

It'S like when you put it on.

[B]

The film, and it's like, the coach is there, and he's like, our quarterback can't give you a better ball. You have to come down with this. That was in the first quarter and a half. Avery, when I watch him, he had a guy in an out, you know, not necessarily a routine play, but a lot of separation. He's sailing that thing where it's an uncatchable ball for both of them. I saw Avery kind of flinch a little bit when it comes to putting the ball in the places you need to be if you want to be a Big 12 champion, if you want to be the school that's going to take the next step, not have the floor because you're going to lean on your culture of having four or five losses. I didn't love that. I give grace because you're in Ireland, the weather's bad. Anytime you go, you know, over to Europe or the other side of the world, everyone's always bitching, complaining about the field. You see that with the receivers or slipping and sliding everywhere. But I like, I. When I walk away from that game, I look at Iowa State's offensive line, I go, they've got a lot of holes. They've got a lot of issues going on there. But I look at Rocco Becht, he seems very decisive. He gets the ball out really fast. He puts the ball ball in a good place for guys to be successful. I see Avery Johnson in that zero blitz. He, with all the athletic building in the world, kind of gets scared and just this kind of muffins one over in the right side. Avery, I think he needs to take a look in the mirror a little bit while you look. If you're an Iowa State fan, you're like, yeah, we have obvious holes in certain areas, but I like our quarterback and he's going to give us a chance to win every single time. Because once the run game started to get going a little bit, you see the offensive line, they're a little undersized. They're not the most athletic group in the world. They were giving up some pressures, especially early in the game, versus that defensive line. But your quarterback buddy, I'm telling you, you got a little something. You get a little creative with some bubbles, some movement, stuff like that. He's going to put the ball where you want it to. I don't feel that way with Avery after this week, but that's.

[A]

You got to build it through the run game with Avery. Like, Avery gives me a feeling of like, I don't want this to come off as a shot in any type of way. It's just where my brain. His dad will come and beat your eyes like. Like a poor man. It's like a style of Taylor Martinez where he can run the ball really well.

[B]

What was it like to a 2012 reference?

[A]

Yeah, Taylor Martinez was. He was a monster.

[B]

Yeah, no, no, he was a stud.

[A]

But, yeah, ceiling awkward, you know, arm motion, all that kind of stuff. But you build it through the run game with Avery Johnson more than you would. Obviously, the opposing quarterback is Rocco Beck.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just think I'm not pushing the painted button on Kansas State. It's a lot of that where they're going to get back over, back across the pond, and it's going to be a lot of just playing team football.

[B]

And you of all people should know with your team, week zero doesn't count. Yeah, foreign soil. Foreign soil. It doesn't count.

[A]

Doesn't mean that on Sidekick still haunts me.

[B]

I'm just looking at Iowa State, and if I'm Iowa State, I feel really good about my quarterback's performance. I think percentage wise, he was actually below 50%. But if you watch the game, you're like, okay, there's a lot of drop balls. There's a lot of week zero. No preseason Guys feeling out and the weather.

[A]

I wonder what made Johnson and Johnson get into the scuffle. Like, what?

[B]

Probably this conversation. It's probably this conversation where the dad is feeling some type of way. He thinks his son's going to be a first round pick when the season's over. A lot of people are talking about.

[A]

The big fact that they're on the.

[B]

Ground fighting, which is just crazy. And in a puddle, too. They're just fighting in a puddle.

[A]

It just means that, I don't know if you want to get in Ireland.

[B]

Scuffle in Ireland. Like, I think.

[A]

I think that's.

[B]

To me, that's just another.

[A]

To me, this is nothing to look at. Yeah. This is a. This is a coffee rainy day in the.

[B]

On the pebble.

[A]

This is a couple family members getting a coffee in Ireland. This is what happens. This is nothing even to look at. I saw that they posted an apology. We won't let it happen again. It means more to this family. This family takes their football very serious.

[D]

Who won, though?

[B]

I don't know which one's which.

[A]

Low key. I think dad had top control. Dad had top.

[B]

Is that dad who had top control? All right, all right.

[A]

On a great, great dub for the dad if he was the winner.

[B]

What.

[A]

The stuff that I've heard in the college football world. I saw that video. I saw that fight, and it didn't come off surprising to me because, you know, you got the. You got the dad who's very involved with his son, who happens to be the starting quarterback at Kansas State with a high ceiling. So when I saw this video, I wasn't too surprised. Had a good laugh, and it's like, hey, keep it moving.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Gotta know what.

[B]

To me, this is.

[A]

Gotta know what set them off.

[B]

You're sitting. This is. This is. This is a family issue. Family decided to handle stuff in public a little bit. Take the cameras away, let them handle their business. Let's move on, move forward. Let's get on out of here. That's all it is.

[A]

I like to picture it.

[D]

The.

[A]

The brother, younger brother was like, saying, like, avery sucks or whatever. And the dad was like, your ass to even play college football. So shut up. And then they start fighting. Yeah. That's how I picture it.

[B]

Going down.

[A]

You know, dad's at home right now. Everybody's asking about family fights, right? Family fight all the time. That's all that was.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Foreign soil doesn't count. Anything you do over there, it doesn't matter. What do you do in the continental United States or Hawaii, where Stanford lost.

[A]

Yeah, they're having. They're having.

[B]

Stanford loses to Hawaii, bro, which is just. When are they going to come out of the gutter, man? When are they going to get back to the Harbaugh area where they're in, you know, 46 personnel. They have all offensive linemen on the field and one running back. And they're just going to shove it down your throat because they just can't. They just can't fucking get it done. You even have Andrew Luck who retired early, who is a generational talent, your gm, and we just can't figure it out.

[A]

I know. I hope they win just because Andrew Luck's there.

[B]

Yeah, same.

[A]

But I don't really watch Stanford football.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, no doubt. They've got to have the worst schedule. Every year they fly to Hawaii, okay? That's a six hour flight from Stanford. They fly back and then they got to play five or six games on the east coast because of an accident. We're setting these boys up for failure. Yeah.

[A]

Give us some airline miles and a.

[B]

School that's known for being so smart. What are we doing? What are we doing?

[A]

They're racking up their rewards. Points. Right?

[B]

Here's what you do. Fly to the east coast, get yourself a high school football facility. Zoom. Online classes, fix your program. Right there. Just got you two more dubs in the season. Probably because we're not dealing with so much damn jet lag, you know? Yeah, right. We interrupt this episode to bring you neutral. Have you tried Nutral? If not, you're missing out. Neutral is so much better than any other seltzer I've tried. It's made with real vodka and real juice. That's what makes it delicious. Neutral comes in a variety of flavors. I've told you before, I'll tell you again. My favorite flavors, pineapple and lime. Neutral is the perfect drink to bring when you're hanging with friends. And it is such a crowd pleaser. Neutral, keep it tasty. Back to this episode.

[G]

You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job and home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply.

[B]

That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.

[E]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points. Points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, Hydro Silk Razors and Edge Shave Gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four times points to use for later discounts on groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[A]

A team that looks solid and don't know how good Fresno State is It seems like they are ass, but Kansas look pretty good.

[B]

Yeah, I think Fresno stage is ass. I mean, I I to be honest, to be honest, I didn't really watch the game, so that was kind of like that was a floater. I just put that in the wind right there. I probably shouldn't have. No disrespect for the J that what is the Jayhawks. I My brain sees basketball. That's all I'll say. Show me. Don't tell me.

[A]

Yeah, Jalen Daniels. Is he. Yeah, he is a dog. It for for Kansas, it's truly all about him being healthy because he's built again, not trying to take a shot at the kid. Built a little lean, built a little frail. Hell of an athlete. But he's been on the injury report several times from Kansas because you listen to Peyton, you listen to all the college football heads talk about it like Kansas or Kansas could be a competitor in the Big 12, but it truly all depends on the quarterback. Jalen Daniels.

[B]

Big week, man. Big week.

[A]

You were asking about Coach Rule in his podcast.

[B]

Yeah, I was. I want to know how you felt about Matt Rule 10 days before the kickoff of their football season. Has a podcast that comes out. I saw the intro. He's got a lot of questions, too. I understand that he's in the building. I love Matt. Yeah, I love Nebraska football. Are we getting distracted? We had to photo shoot a couple months ago. We got a podcast. Now. I have no doubt Year three Matt Rule is going to show up this year. That's not going to be the issue. What's too much, though? And that's I'm not, I'm not saying I'm in it or out of it. I'm just worried about distractions. I I know my boy's been hurting for the good part of a decade, and I just want everyone to be focused on your mental health. And when I see the podcast, I get worried that maybe we're not 100 focused on Will Compton's mental health in Nebraska.

[A]

He doesn't need to be focused on my mental health. I I love the podcast. I think you know, he's a pioneer in the space, man. He. When he was talking about doing it, I was like, bro, I think it's a great idea. You get an inside look at everything going on with Nebraska. And again, he's got a lot of questions. He wants to have a podcast. Let me ask you, when we started our podcast, would you say that you were distracted?

[B]

I would say no, but I like.

[A]

Would you say you lost focus, you're not focused on the task at hand?

[B]

No. It's a bad argument, but I understand what you're saying.

[A]

Why is it a bad argument?

[B]

Because I was a left tackle for a team, one of guys on the field at one time, knowing my job, my circumstances, and basically evaluating the players that I'm playing against and the scheme I'm playing against. This is a head coach of football team who's managing recruiting guys, who's managing transfer portals, who's managing quarterbacks who want more money, receivers that they're bringing in to help their quarterback out. Now they have to worry about their offense. Hogerson's doing his thing well. How's our defense going to be this year? We lost two guys in the middle that we liked. How do we replace that? So there's a lot more on a head coach's plate than there is on a left tackle plate. I'm not saying this is a bad thing. I'm just worried. Distraction. And it's only. And Matt said it in his podcast, there's only so many hours in the day. There's only so many hours in the day. There's only so much time you can focus on football before you need to, you know, spread your wings and do your other stuff, invest in other things in your life. So I'm with you on if you want to take an hour out of your week and do a podcast, sit there. I love that he's standing, by the way. Great for the body. I think that's awesome. I think it's great. I just. It's so new, right? It's so. It's very new.

[A]

Feels uncomfortable.

[B]

Feels uncomfortable.

[A]

Is. It's like when you. Hey, when you, when you drop the first episode, just be ready for the external noise because it's going to be there. Especially if you don't win. The external noise is going to be there. But you answered, you know, you answered the question the same way when you were coming on and doing busting with the boys is you understand what your capacity is. I trust that he knows what his capacity is. If he's taking an hour Hour and a half to do a podcast. I'm sure there's a lot of episodes that are already banked. Then it's like, you know, he's doing his thing.

[B]

I just hope that if the season doesn't go the way that we expect it to go with Nebraska, I hope he just keeps doing it. I don't want there to be a week where it's like, we're not going to do it this week and then give an excuse for it. That's a bad look. You gotta, you gotta punch through no matter what. Similar to our first year doing the podcast. Yeah, right. We start two and four. I'm suspended. The whole world's burning the ground. And we just kept on going. And it's like you don't. You want. You don't want to. But worst case scenario, you got to keep doing it, Matt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Got to keep doing it throughout the season.

[A]

You know, when will goes on though, that episode's gonna.

[B]

Gonna go crazy.

[D]

What week will.

[A]

It'll be after the season when we, you know, you should do it.

[B]

You should do a bustin bowl week.

[A]

No, no, he's got, he's got again after the season because I'm sure he's got a lot of episodes that are already backlog. Like, that's not. No, it's not the right time. Timing is everything.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And the timing for that banger will be postseason when we 10 + wins.

[B]

10/Plus, maybe like super bowl week. He's got like a set up at Meteoro.

[A]

Yeah. All the haters though, they're waiting for a little drop and then the point to, hey, this is a distraction. Yada, yada, yada.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. The white noise.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a bunch of. I'm just, I was playing. I'm playing a little devil's advocate for you. I want, I want Nebraska to be Nebraska for your sake. I can't see you go through it again. Taylor. This is not.

[A]

I feel good. Listen, I. I am.

[C]

I'm.

[A]

It's football week. We're finally here. Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Week 1 Cincinnati Bearcats home game. Yeah. And I feel in Kansas, really good. Dana Holgerson knows JP isn't.

[B]

He understands. Yeah, he absolutely understands.

[A]

Del Riola, year two. Matt. Matt Rule, year three.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Got a bunch of hogs. Everything.

[B]

Everything's going your way. Everything's going your way.

[A]

Not yet. It feels good.

[B]

Everything's set up to go.

[A]

Momentum feels really good right now.

[B]

The year three, Matt Rule, quarterback in year two. Went to the transfer portal. Got yourself a couple of Wide receivers to help out that offense a little bit spicy. Defense hogs in the middle. I'm with you. Yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

Some youth on defense. I'm excited to see the black shirts run around out there.

[B]

Yeah. Other news, Bryce Underwood is now the starter for the University of Michigan. Golf up for him.

[A]

I'm excited to watch. Bryce Underwood, man, he looks like an alien in a uniform.

[B]

He looks like an alien. The one practice we got to saw, I think we all walked away impressed. Like, okay, maybe this kid is who people are saying he is. He had the one hiccup against Nico shout out our intern. Nico who. What's his middle. What's his last name? Ghetto. Yeah.

[A]

Andrew Ghetto.

[B]

As Italian as it gets.

[A]

Picked him off.

[B]

Yeah. Quick release the. The question mark going, this is. You get Mikey Keane from Fresno State. You bring him in. Do you let Mikey Keane take over while his kids kind of learning a little bit. Unless you see something that's. This guy's got to be our starter right here, right now. I think it's a good move long term for the University of Michigan. You bring back a lot of starters in the offensive line. A lot of things coming out of that camp saying that offensive line's gotten a whole lot better from last year. They ended the season really well. Much better in the run game, much better in protection. I'm excited to see him New Mexico, but more than anything, I'm excited to see that. That week two in Oklahoma.

[A]

Yeah. I think Bryce Underwood's. You brought him there to be the future for the next however many years at Michigan. Like, you throw him in the fire. If he's got any type of ability that you recruited him for. I don't like the juggling quarterbacks. I don'.

[D]

You.

[A]

You, you start another cat, let him get, you know, let him feel out the game. D. I mean, you got Oklahoma on week two. You're at Norman.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Week two. I think you just got to get him in. If he takes his licks, he'll take him early, but he's going to be a stud.

[B]

He's going to be. He's going to be a stud. Yeah. The whole. The phrase, if you got two quarterbacks, you got zero quarterbacks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta, you gotta stick with one guy and get this kid, you know, in the fire immediately. A Big ten ball.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Big ten ball with an. This weekend, New Mexico, I think we're favored by 38 and a half points. That's. That's nuts. Probably. Yeah. I'll probably just take it to, you know, support the boys. But last year. Last year, week one, we're sitting in te. Was it Texas? Station. Station. College Station, Texas A and M versus Notre Dame. And I'm sitting there on my phone watching. I don't know if it was Bowling Green or something, just being like, we can't.

[A]

Fresno.

[B]

It might have been Fresno. That's a. That's a. I think that might have been who it was. But I remember sitting there while this electric game's going on on my iPhone, thinking to myself, oh, but y' all.

[A]

Did put it in big trouble.

[B]

Yeah, we. Yeah. But we still didn't cover. Yeah, still didn't cover. And it was shaky. We couldn't throw the ball very much.

[A]

Come out of that game with some question marks.

[B]

And then I think the next week or the week after that, we're play Texas. And we all walked in that we knew it was a bit of a sacrificial lamb out for slaughter. Huge year feeling.

[A]

It's a huge year for Michigan.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Pivotal.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I think it goes bad. You gotta hire a good. Well, I won't go there. You want to find out who's at the helm?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're like, this is a big year for coach Iran Moore.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, this is a big year. I don't think this is, like a hot. Let's say, worst case scenario, we hit the floor with Michigan. It's bad. It's seven and five, whatever it is. I don't think you're looking at Sean Moore being like, we're replacing him after this year.

[A]

Higher fast, fire faster.

[B]

You think so? I think the biggest thing that colleges run into issues is like, hiring or firing guys way too quickly.

[A]

I'm with you. 100.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think I'm fully on, like, I.

[B]

Think Matt Rule should technically still be.

[A]

A quote that a lot of successful business owners say is like, hire fast, fire fast.

[B]

Yeah. I just think that.

[A]

I do think if you guys have a. You mentioned seven to five. You go seven to five. Your antennas do have to.

[B]

Your antennas go up for the next year. No, there's no doubt about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where you're. You have a really short leash into the following season.

[A]

Right.

[B]

There's a fa. This is other. You know. Yeah. Oklahoma, you got Nebraska. And then it's pretty favorable after that until you get into, obviously, the last game of the year, which you can kind of just mark up as a win at this point, the way they've played the last four years. But, yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be a Fun year to watch. I think we're all excited for our teams.

[A]

Big year, big season. Just for busing in general. We just had a Rear View Mirror, the very first episode of Rear View Mirror. If you guys like some little documentary style content. Rear View Mirror just dropped last night On Sunday, looking back at our Donald Trump interview, everything that went around the Donald Trump interview, how we ended up getting him as a guest, the lead up into him coming in the room, everything around it with the Bus and with the bus and boys, Taylor, myself, Delaney, the boys in the back. Jared Beeman, a producer at Bus, did an incredible job. This is his brainchild, something he's been wanting to do for a long time. And we didn't really, we didn't give him any guardrails. It was just, hey, make whatever you is going on in your mind.

[B]

Right? Right. This is his idea. This is his baby. He went out and did it show. I mean, when he was showing it to me, it was like 75, 80 done. That was blown away by the production.

[A]

First time I watched it was last night.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. And I called him up and I said, bro, that is incredible work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like you crushed.

[B]

Absolutely killed it. So if you like that, if you like the Rear View Mirror, it's a very, it's a very new thing, sit.

[A]

Down, confessional corner type.

[B]

Like, yeah, Jared came in and at the end, at the end of the episode he's like, if you like this, blah, blah, blah. And I'm. We're just one. Who do you want to see next? Obviously there's a lot of other big guests that we've had on. If you're wondering about the backstory, go ahead and leave in the comments. Who do you want to see in the rear View Mirror?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, drop comments. That feedback's really going to help Jared because I think he's saying the cadence might be like once every three months and just focus on a moment in bus and lore and busting history that was pivotal for us, I think. I feel like there's a lot of different. JP's got so much footage from the vlogs. Yeah, I, I think like a Bus and bowl one would be cool. Bus and Bowl.

[B]

Bus and bowl be awesome.

[A]

You got the Variable. Like when we took off with Variable, signing with barstool, leaving barstool FanDuel, Jeffrey.

[B]

Jeffrey star Jelly Roll. I think just how he got in the fold with us would be awesome because we kind of just stumbled upon Jelly, like came out of his own way just to come and meet us and be like, hey, I'm a fan of you guys. I want to come on your show. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Starting as just a podcast and expanding in the vlogs. Expanding into different shows and content.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Taking the camera inside locker room, like. Yeah. I think there's a lot of. There's a lot of meat on the bone.

[B]

Yeah. It. It was awesome that the production values. Unbelievable. It was like a Netflix documentary the way he put it together.

[A]

I saw one comment that was like.

[B]

Y' all think y' all are 96 bulls. Yeah. Yes, we are. Yep.

[A]

The one that I like the most is the one sitting as like the top comment with all the thumbs up stuff is them just saying, like, you know, tipping the cap to the production. Like, this is something that could be on like Netflix or HBO style because the can't. Like the production of it was that good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jared did a really good job. Jerry came up with the quiet. Jerry came up with a lot of the.

[B]

He did. I think he did it all.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know he was. He was talking about he's sitting with JP on a lot of different stuff, like going over different moments. Way to kind of build the storyline out. Ways to kind of like just look back at that moment, how it all transpired.

[B]

Perfect length too.

[A]

Yeah. It was like 23 minutes.

[B]

Yeah. Good, easy digestible. You kind of want to eat. Like just the intro of it all. You're like, I gotta see what this is all about. Yeah. How it all kind of went down.

[A]

The music. I thought he crushed it with the music.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure the watch time on that video is going to be insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there's no way you click on that and not want to stick around and just see how everything turns out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you know, the end result. But like, how did it all happen?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Y' all talking about the. The matting ratings, bro.

[B]

Was so. Yeah.

[A]

And then JP having that. Yeah. Having that sit down. Talking about we're about to have party.

[B]

In the chair is crazy. And dude, us just getting. Being stir crazy. We're in there for six hours.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just eventually, like. Yeah, just a couple of wild dogs that just need to get out of there.

[A]

About to sit down with the now President of the United States and we're. We're arguing about Madden ratings. Everyone lying.

[B]

Delaney said he was a 99 is insane.

[A]

And then him saying, oh, no, no way. I was injured that year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That has nothing to do with your mad right? At all.

[B]

No, it was. I do feel disrespected still. My Mad ratings. We went back on a couple weeks ago.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Or 82.

[A]

Speed was high or acceleration.

[B]

Acceleration was nasty. I think my speed was like a 75. We interrupt this episode to bring you Lucy. Let's level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy co buston and use promo code bus in B SSIN to get 20 off your first order. Lucy has a 30 day refund policy. If you change your mind again, that's Lucy co and use code bussin b u S S I n to get 20 off. Let's get back to the episode.

[A]

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but do we need to like, this is the biggest show in the bus and universe. Do we need to touch on the. The first pitch from last week?

[B]

Yeah, we can if you guys. I mean, we did talk about in the locker room with Josh, correct?

[A]

Yeah, it.

[B]

Listen, if I go into St. Louis and throw that pitch the first time, I think we all just walk away like, hey, Will Stow was better. And we all kind of giggle. But the end of the day it's like, yeah, it's a first pitch. It went in the direction you want to go because of St. Louis. How much work we put in and then the result we had where you have to essentially get off your feet to go get the ball.

[A]

I jumped. That's 32 inch vertical.

[B]

Wow. Because you had to jump in the air, it's like, yeah, it's disappointing. It's. It's a disappointing deal. I wish it was just a laser right down the middle. There's things I'm proud of. There's things I'm proud of. I didn't shy away from the speed. I didn't shy away just. Just to lob it in. But yeah, I think the moment was 32.

[A]

Did you see Frank the Tank's pitch?

[B]

I didn't see it. I did see it. It was nice. I did. I also noticed.

[A]

Strike.

[B]

He wasn't on the diet.

[A]

He wasn't.

[B]

He wasn't on the mound. He wasn't on the mound.

[A]

You're right. If you throw that pitch, there's really.

[B]

Nothing that gets nothing to hold talk. Nothing.

[A]

But since St. Louis, it's like the question raises, does Taylor have this athletic ability in his bag and are you right handed?

[B]

Yeah. I think it's really just turned into like, is the moment become too big for me? And that's a, that's, that's a tough thing to look in the mirror and ask yourself that question. Like, is the moment too big for You.

[A]

Because in the vlog, you did say. Will said, are you nervous? You said, nervous for what? We've been playing in front of big crowds our whole life.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Was that a lie?

[B]

I'm sure at the time when I said it. But once you get in, then the lights are on. You're all 15 people in that stadium. It's like, yo, I gotta operate now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you get out there, and I think we're playing catch in the outfield, and I get like four or five in a row that kind of just squirrel away from me. Where Will has to essentially be like, hey, you gotta lock in. And then I, you know, I go. And I.

[A]

We shorted up, legit stood up and was like, hey, bro, come on. This is like.

[B]

I think I got. I think I.

[A]

That guy moved my load a little too early.

[B]

I think I was in a good headspace. Before we do the FanDuel TV, where the guy had 100, 354 saves. Career, he starts. Yeah, yeah. Career leader. Starts coaching me on, like, over the top. And I said it so many times, I should have stuck with my Guns of Haze in the barn. It's like, you put the work in, you know, the way you're throwing, you kind of know what feels right. But to try to change the trajectory right before that pitch, I think that's what put me into a position that I'm not proud of. Of. I'm not proud like that. That checked the box. But it's not. It's not the result. It's not the. The exclamation point you want at the end of the story. Am I going to do another first pitch? I think the answer has to be yes.

[A]

Yeah. But like you said, we'll put it on the shelf.

[B]

You put on the shelf right now we have a whole football season ahead of us. Let's get into. Let's get into opening day. Let's get into the start of the next. Next year's baseball season. Let's go throw a pitch.

[A]

You had a bad week last week? Week?

[B]

No Bad. No bad days. Maybe bad weeks, though. What happened last week?

[A]

Well, not only did you have a bad first pitch, you also ran out of gas, right? Jesus. Yeah.

[B]

And it's like, at what age is that just unacceptable? I think the. I think the answer is 18. I think once you are technically an adult in America, it's time to make sure your gas is always good. Couple of disclaimers. My gas gauge doesn't work. And so I'm thinking to myself, I literally no joke. This is not.

[A]

If only you could get it fixed.

[B]

No joke, dude. I'm leaving the Titans facility and I see and I'm like. I'm pretty sure I like filled up that tank like six days ago, seven days ago maybe. I think I'm all right. And as I'm getting on, I think I'm at the last little bit. Like I'm a quarter mile from the exit from our shop. All of a sudden the gas that kind of goes from like, what the is going on? And I look, I'm like, I ran out of gas. This is crazy.

[A]

Let's not talk about this truck. This truck needs to get put down, bro.

[B]

Cool looking truck. I had the most unrealistic expectation in my life of having old vehicles that work and run every single day. That's. That's whatever. For whatever reason a goal I set for myself. It is never going to come true. Every person I cross is like, had I had this, had that, it always broke on me. And I think I'm gonna be the guy that changes it. Changes the game. I ran out of gas. Did the car break? No. The dumb idiot who driving the car, he's the one that up.

[A]

Didn't you say the gas gauge is just not correct or.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

We were. We were talking about it. He got more. He got more car problems. We were talking about it though. Is. And this isn't like a shot because when you do, when it happens to you, it is like you feel this way, but is running out of gas the dumbest thing you can do A thousand percent.

[B]

It's got to be up.

[A]

I think I did it twice in the year of 2020 24.

[B]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[A]

You know that you're the one that would tell me, hey, I never let my vehicle get below 100 miles right.

[B]

On the new vehicles because it. Yeah. It up your fuel pump. I did say that to you. And look at me right? Like, take your own coaching. Yeah, take your own coaching and run with it. I like that. My week was tough last week. I like the week before the football season starting. Having some. Some more downs than I did. Ups. Now I get to get in the season. I feel like I can wipe that away. Woke up this morning, threw a little sage on myself, burn it. Sat there, cleansed myself. Let's get moving forward. Let's get this football season with good vibes. Yeah, it's good to get away from that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And we were coming off of some. Just some good interviews that people are going to get to listen To Cam Ward.

[B]

Cam Ward.

[A]

Cam or Tyler Lockett, by the way, I was very impressed with. That's your Saturday partner right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's my. Yeah. Just love and just sit at, sit at the house all day long.

[A]

Yeah. Binge some shows. Not say a word. Hey, you got, you got this snack. No, but I can get it for you.

[B]

Yeah. Tyler does have that vibe where you don't. There's really no expectation.

[A]

I just love tv, which is the.

[B]

Best kind of person. You just sit there and hang out. Hey, you don't want to talk? I guess we're not talking today. It's all good, man. Whatever's on the tube, you're gonna let it happen.

[A]

Yeah. And then. Yeah.

[B]

The Biscuit give him that last minute call. He's.

[A]

We were talking about it on the game the other night when we were gooning, but he felt. It seemed like he was nervous sitting there.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I, I thought he was like shaking. I thought he, the mic was shaking a little bit too. I just think, you know, being a part of our group chat, our friendship, I think he sees how bus is kind of like done, you know, gone up a little bit. He's probably made it a little bit bigger in his head. I think the risk thing, I think all. Everybody was. Everybody besides you and me was pretty blindsided by the chat.

[A]

I also think he's just a true war dog when it comes to football. Like this dude is in Fight or Flight. Has been in Fight or Flight his entire career.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Making rosters. He's going into year nine. He's, he's survived, he's. He's had a career that he's proud of.

[B]

Survive in advance is his mantra.

[A]

Yeah. And he's sitting there, he's probably got all the, you know, what's coach gonna think? Like, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Be a distraction. I'm not trying to make it seem like I, you know, all these things. Like he, his anxiety was probably just through the roof. Just as a football guy, that's all ball, easily breathe ball.

[B]

When we go in this training camp tour, you can tell the guys that are more vest vets and some guys who are a little, little more new. One guy that was surprised me a little bit was Cam. Like he's the first overall pick. There's a lot of eyeballs, a lot of people watching every move he makes seem very relaxed, very comfortable in who he is as a person, which I, I was a big fan of, a big Fan of what that kid's gonna do. Obviously, the Titans, I feel like we're gonna have a better year than last year, but we need a temperature.

[A]

I think the national media, the national football casual fan is sleeping on the 10 talent that the Titans can put out there. Not in a way that they win the division, but I think that they're spicy. I think that they can be spicy as long as they stay healthy. I feel like they got an O line that's humming a little bit better now.

[B]

They're obviously paid a lot of money for your office.

[A]

A lot of money for it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But can you hear it seems like everything he's been advertised.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They got talent on the outside. They're gonna have a good defense again.

[B]

That's where I worry about that. I think, I think their back end, they have very little depth.

[A]

Right.

[B]

The other corner, I think is a little up and down. Hooker, I think Titan fans are back and forth on Hooker a little bit about like, is he the guy? Is he not the guy?

[A]

But bro, that defense. Well, last year they played good enough to win a lot of games. Yeah.

[B]

Linebackers got stronger. You're. You're. You need somebody to rush the quarterback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arden Key, you lost Harold Landry, obviously. Jeff Simmons is an absolute monster. Devondre Sweat, he's solid, but it's like, who's your notable backups?

[A]

Yeah, because they'll collapse. They're going to collapse the pocket, but they're going to be taking up the doubles and you need the guys doing their one on ones on the outside.

[B]

Right? Yeah. And if you just have, if you don't have somebody that can put pressure on the outside of the offensive line, it's going to be very difficult because you can put as much pressure up the mill as you want. If you don't have somebody to clean up as this quarterback scrambling out, you're going to run into a lot of issues. So I think think they'll be better than they were last year. I think we're going to see from Cam Ward, we're going to see a guy that doesn't make the same mistake twice. You're going to see a guy that makes a couple of throws, you're like, holy, he's the guy. But at the end of the day, he's also a rookie. Like, he's a rookie. He's going to make rookie mistakes. One thing that I've learned that I've talked to a couple people inside that building is he's. He's a guy that when he makes that mistake, you don't see that mistake again, which is huge. Huge for the brand, keeping him upright. He doesn't seem like a guy that's going to fall into the tank if he doesn't have a couple of good weeks. So future wise, I feel really good about it. This year is one of those. We'll sees big. We'll see this year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you go get Trey Hendricks from Cincy Hendrickson? Yeah, I mean, you could. I think they have the capital. They do have the capital. It's a lot of money to do it. It's a lot of money. What year is Trey in? Don't know.

[D]

Off the top.

[F]

Now we're talking about the titans, but Terry McLaren just signed a three year, 96 million.

[B]

Oh, let's go. Terry McLaren. That's big for the Commanders. Big.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, they get rid. They get rid of the running back, they trade the running back to the 49ers. Yeah.

[A]

So good move for the Ners. I feel like the Ners really got some, some upside with that because you just don't know the health of who, who's the backup to Christian.

[F]

Say they get Mitchell, Isaac, Garendo.

[A]

Yes, Guerindo. Both guys that were on the injury report a few times last year, but I just think Brian Robinson's a stud.

[B]

Stud man.

[A]

They got good depth. Yes. Very physical inside the tackles. Now you can put Christian, like in that Debo kind of spot, you know, bounce him outside, put B. Rob in the backfield right to where they're both. Push him out, let Christian run it underneath. You got options. Yeah, Eckler. You got Eckler, but they got. They drafted somebody who they. Yeah, yeah, their depth chart. Sher Commanders, they went and paid some money for Tunsil, right?

[D]

They.

[B]

Yeah, they traded in Miller now, so. Von Miller.

[A]

Yeah, but they. Listen, Von Miller on the, on the team.

[B]

Von Miller had six. Six sacks and 14 games left.

[A]

But for Washington, again, the worst run defense in the NFL. For them, it's just going to be stopping the run. If they're going to close the gap in the NFC.

[B]

They got Jeremy McNichols. Yeah. Can't kill McNichols. Can't kill him, boys. Damn. He might do a little something this year. Eckler, I mean, catch the ball of the backfield. Savvy, smart. Debo. Yeah. I think that Larry Tunsil trade is going to be massive for them. That is such a huge win for the Commanders.

[A]

They got a McCaffrey. Luke McCaffrey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

K.J. osborne with some Depth commanders will be tough this year.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, good for Terry also. I know there was a lot of back and forth between the franchise and him this off season, getting that big deal. That's big time. Yeah, yeah, you got. You got to have that football. We're here, we're here. It's here. Boys, got a juicy up.

[A]

What do you think's going to happen with Michael Parsons and the Cowboys?

[B]

You gotta trade them.

[A]

If y' all watch the Cowboys documentary. I haven't watched the documentary, but I've been consuming because Jerry Jones has been doing a little press tour, talking about the negotiations, basically, and just posturing up, letting him know, I mean, we got him for three more years. I hope you guys keep talking about how much. How great Michael Parsons is, because we love him here. And if you guys could see the contract we offered him basically on the agent of Michael Parsons for stepping in the documentary is unreal. It's very, very. Oh, buddy, I can't wait to consume that.

[D]

Because it's all.

[A]

Because this is, like, my time, so, like, learning about it. Yeah. Like, it's sick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This was my squad until I got to Washington. Dallas Cowboys, 90s.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's. It's very, very well done.

[B]

Yeah. See, what you want about Jerry Jones and how he's operating, that star on the helmet is just different.

[A]

I enjoy seeing him speak so much, like, on the topic of the negotiation with Michael Parsons, because I just feel like Jerry Jones loves the game. Loves the game of business, loves the Cowboys.

[B]

You gotta have Michael Parsons on the field, though. And I feel like Mike. Mike is a prideful guy that he'll be like, all right, you. I'm not playing, then.

[A]

Yeah. Which I think Jerry also kind of. Kind of enjoys.

[B]

He likes. He likes it.

[A]

He likes to see a little backbone from. He had that. Likes to see a little song and dance. They had the same situation with emt.

[B]

Smith just learned this in the documentary. Really? Oh, yeah. He was holding out as well.

[A]

He held out, like, two games they lost. First two games came back, he had, like, four touchdowns. And then they, like, went on to the Super Bowl.

[B]

Keeps me young.

[A]

Yeah. Drama keeps him young.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's been. It's been interesting. I have no clue how that's.

[B]

You go get this year if you're Titans. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Either one of them.

[B]

Yeah. Trey is. He's a such a unique rusher, though, because he's not overly fast. He does a great job of getting around the edge somehow. He's much more of a power rusher. He's savvy, plays the game very. What's the word I'm looking for? Like sound. He's very sound in the run game. Like he does a great job. Michael Parson is one of those guys you kind of just go, hey, Will, linebacker, Sam, linebacker. You guys gotta watch what he does and cover up. Cover his ass up because he's gonna go make some places.

[A]

Party.

[B]

Yeah, go up that party. And he's much younger. I mean, Trey's been in the game for a little bit, so I mean, both of them would help your defense in a big way. Go get both of them. Go get both of them now. Now. You just changed the entire season. Doesn't matter how your back end looks like you're not getting the ball off, you're not getting the ball off of that.

[A]

We interrupt this episode because this show is sponsored by Liquid iv. The boys are going to be on the road a lot this season and we're going to need our electrolytes and one stick and 16 ounces of water. This hydrates better than water alone. Liquid IV has three times the electrolytes of the leading sports drink and has eight essential vitamins and nutrients. Always non gmo, vegan, gluten free, dairy free and soy fee soy free. Savor the last bits of summer with Liquid IV. Tear poor, live more. Go to LiquidIV.com to get 20% off your first order with code Bussin at checkout. That's 20% off your first order with Code [e-mail] Back to the episode.

[G]

You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's Oregon Home Home Care jobs.com.

[B]

Hey.

[E]

It'S Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items to keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th. Earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard Raw Sugar, Dove Soft Soap and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[A]

Another exciting headline is who's going to be the third third string quarterback for the Browns. TG people, the Internet eats up that.

[B]

Is it Joe. Joe's 1.

[A]

Joe Flacco, who's 2. Pickett.

[B]

Pickett.

[A]

On the depth chart right now, it's Joe Flacco, it's Pickett and then it's Dylan Gabriel.

[B]

Real. Yeah.

[A]

Because there's conspiracies coming out of the weekend that the Browns, this is what they wanted to do. They wanted to set up Chadur for not having success. They took him out, they removed him on the two minute drill and put in Huntley who they knew wasn't going to be on the roster the next day. Why not let Shadir get those reps in? There's also the conspiracy is going so deep. I mean this is Tim Tebow esque type fandom. But the conspiracies are running so deep that they're saying the old line wasn't going to block or was didn't block for him, was like trying to sabotage his game by not blocking for him.

[B]

Okay, let's start there. Let's start there.

[A]

I'm just saying that's.

[B]

God, no, no. If you are a Browns fan who believes that the offensive line look at it like this is. Remember the Titans and the guards just kind of like being a revolving door. That is the dumbest fucking thing if you will ever hear. Yeah. You have guys that are also getting paid that also want to make the team.

[A]

I was going to say a lot.

[B]

Of starters out there, they're not yet. Yeah.

[A]

You're telling me that there's five guys on the third string. If I go back to my rookie year, five Willie C. Type mentalities out there being like, oh, I'm not going to block for this dude.

[B]

Fighting for your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Who you.

[B]

I mean, you keep nine offensive linemen and you're the third string. You're the bottom. You know, 15 guys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're going to be like, hey, go ahead. And when Shadora's out there, maybe just let it go a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you got 31 other teams. Most of those guys are going to get cut. You have 31 other teams that are evaluating you as well. Hell, maybe you're a peace squad guy. Maybe you're good enough to be on another team. Maybe the Cleveland Brown's offense is that good. There is not a fucking chance in hell that someone is making a decision to not block for somebody because they will lose their job. That is so dumb. And if you draft a guy, it's like, yeah, you put yourself in a peculiar situation with Gabriel With Flacco being older. Pickett, like, you've got four quarterbacks and you're like, here it is. We have a very unique situation. Also, desean Watson, he's putting out film of him being ready to throw again. He's got guaranteed 260 million most interesting.

[A]

Quarterback room in the world right now.

[B]

But there's no way that the Browns are sitting there being like, I know we don't ever make the playoffs and we have a great defense, but we still can't get over the hump from an office perspective. But let's take the time to ruin this young man's career.

[A]

Where I will, where I will fodder while throwing some, some fish food is. I was listening to TJ Hushmanzada and Chad Ochocink break it down and Hushman Zada had a good point. Like, if you're, if you're in a tight race competing for the threes and you kind of know what your roster is going to look like, why in that last game would you not give them equal opportunity versus Dylan Gabriel playing, Did he play the first half and then Shadir played the second half? Like, why not go a couple, you know, a couple drives at a time, kind of give them equal opportunity and let it play out versus, you know, you're, you're just, you're putting Shadur out there with all the, the bottom roster guys and then also removing him, him from a two minute drill where you could learn a little bit more about him. When you know Huntley's not going to be on the roster the next day. That's the only one I can sit there and be like, oh, I, I can understand that perspective totally. But if you're going, then, if I challenge that and then go complete business perspective of the front office, everybody else. And you want to be proven right about taking Dylan. Like Dylan Gabriel's a third round pick to shoulder and be in fifth. Like, yeah, that's a couple rounds. But still, if you want this quarterback that he's going to potentially be the future of the Browns, you want him to be in the best situation. So it plays out that way. And that's just, that's just, you know, as my man on Bruce Almighty would say, that's how the cookie crumbles, right? Because when you're, when you are a bottom roster type guy, you're not going to be in the perfect situations. It's going to be, you have your opportunity, nobody cares, work harder. Like nobody's coming to save you. You're going to Be on your own island trying to create your own opportunities and the chances that you do have. I thought Dan Orlofsky did a good job breaking down Shadur's game. Game on. Actually talking football, how he's drifting in the pocket, doing some things that were question marks of him coming out of college. Actually talking football. But again, when you are a lower round pick or an undrafted guy, I'm, I, I'm telling you right now, there's, there is no chance where the staff and everybody's thinking how do we set up this lower round guy or this undrafted guy for success. Nobody's thinking that. It's, it's make your own way when you get to the NFL.

[B]

I don't disagree. You said a lot of words there. Let's try to break it down one by one. Why do you play one quarterback for a first half and the other quarterback for the whole second half? Half My answer to that is when you're looking at a quarterback and the product they put on the field, it's not one drive that's going to define them in that game. It's the consistency of having them in. How are they operating when they make operation, how do they, when they make the mistake the next series, how do they operate? How are they handling themselves when they have down, how they bring themselves back up when they're up, how they keep that consistency. So I think that's a reason why you play one guy for a chunk of time and the other guy for a different chunk of time.

[A]

And Dylan didn't play in the first game.

[C]

Game.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He was, he did not hit a hamstring.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Huntley taking over a two minute drill and taking Shadow out. The logic in that is, you know that Tyler Huntley is not going to be on your team. This is the last preseason game of the year. This is where teams would go, we need this guy. We should give this guy a look as a tip of the cap to be like, hey, he's still a viable option. He keep trying to keep his dreams alive. We've kind of made our decision, let's get this guy out there. So there's 31 other teams that might want to bring him in as a third quarterback.

[A]

And I love that thought because it's, we know, we know Shadur is going to be on the squad. We know, we, we trust him. A two minute drill and if you flip it to setting up somebody else for, hey, he's not going to be on the squad. He can have some tape before he goes out to the open market. Yeah, I like that. Thought of, hey, let's rip him out there for a two minute drill.

[B]

People are scratching and clawing for an answer about these two quarterbacks, Gabriel and Sanders. You want the answer? You don't get the answer. Time is what's going to give you the answer. Joe Flacco goes down. Who's going to go in? Kenny Pickett's going to go in. Let's say he goes down or he starts not playing very well. Well, the next person that's going to go in is Dylan. All right? That's. That's how it's going to be. He's a third round pick. He's going to get the nod before Sanders. That is the answer. It's not because there's a conspiracy. Dion has said all these things and boasted his kids up. That is what is going to happen.

[A]

Because Dylan has operated well enough in training camp that, hey, we're going to roll him out, right?

[B]

And a third round, you're being like, oh, it's only two rounds. It's a big fucking deal. Those two rounds that first three rounds are guys that you know are guaranteed to make your spot. Spot guaranteed is such a relative term, but for the most part, your three first three rounds, those guys are almost guaranteed a roster spot unless they fuck up in a big way right after you get past the third round. That's when question marks the farther you get towards that seventh and undrafted, the less guarantee or chance you have of actually making the roster. You have to do something. Shador Sanders is a talent, there's no doubt about it. But to say that they are not sitting up for success is such a fucking lie. It's not real. It's.

[A]

This is how intentionally not setting him up for success.

[B]

It's. We're trying to set up the team for success. You're trying to make sure the Cleveland Browns are the best team they can possibly be. If Shador is that answer, we will find that out in the future. But our job is not to coddle and make sure that this kid gets the rep. So we can say he's finished product now or he's not and we get rid of him, or we make him the starting role player. That's an answer that the fun media wants and the fans want to know, but it's not the best thing for your franchise. So that is. It's so overdrawn and ridiculous. And you see how overdrawn and ridiculous it is, by the way, Shitter is being asked questions and the way he's being clickbaited. I thought you did a great job with the obviously quote. And you're like, here's the clip for context. I think that is a good job being for the boys a massive, you know, that's the foundation of this show. I've been like, there. Everyone's trying to give a Shador I got you moment. And you being like, no, no. Here's the context of everything that's going on. You got to watch out for the smoke and mirror because everybody wants is.

[A]

Such an easy grab that everybody, it's. They're so drawn to this story of Shadir Sanders. And it's like, I'm in both. Like, to me it's the ball. It's like when everybody's bitching and complaining, saying they're intentionally setting him up not to fail. I'm just thinking, dude, he's a fifth round pick. He's handled himself very well. But it's like, man, you're not going to have all the best opportunities. Like, that's just reality.

[B]

That's real.

[A]

Everybody everywhere and it's. And then when you go with the. With these grabs of these media accounts, it's like Shadur asked if he like belongs or I forget what it was. And then they just use the one word. Obviously they know that that's going to fodder the basis of look how arrogant he is. Everything else, without even looking into anything, they just read that and think that. And it's like, you see it there when Shadur has it. He like grins and smiles. He's like, I know what you're trying to do, but obviously I feel like, yeah, everybody in this lockdown feels like.

[B]

They should be asking all 94 guys on that roster, do you think he belonged? No one's even be like, no, I think my dream's over. And I think I'm actually not built for this NFL thing. Even if you are having question marks about your talent level, you fake it until you make it. No guy's gonna sit there and be like, I'm not good enough to play in the NFL. It's the same thing as a couple weeks ago. They had their reporter that keeps writing bad things about Chadur. It's like, Shadur Sanders confronts reporter. And you watch the video and he's smiling like, hey, you're gonna write some good things about me. Yeah, like you gonna do. It's like, yeah, you have to tip your. If you are a shitter Sanders hater, you got to tip your cap to the way he's handled this. This kid, no disrespect, has had a silver spoon shoved so far up his ass his entire life. His dad is Deion Sanders. His dad is prime time. He has been in the spotlight, he's been in reality TV shows. He has been probably given a little bit more than he should have in college. Go back to his jersey retirement thing. I think we can all agree that, and Shane actually put it the best at the SBS of being like, whatever his record is and winning the album or losing the Alma bowl, whatever it was. That probably doesn't get you a jersey retirement in your college. However, he's been punched in the face from falling in the draft as far as he can. People hating on him, hating on this much. And he still continues to have a smile on his face and works his ass off. For me, I've seen enough. I need to see about Shitter. I'm bought in and I hope he has success, but it's like to go and try to grab all these things just. It's just wild. His brother, on the other hand, I'm sure he's a great kid. I'm sure he's fantastic. But if you're an undrafted cat and you're swinging on guys in the last preseason game, you are going to get cut. There's not, there is no if, ands or buts. You. I was a first round draft pick. I could almost murder somebody and I'm probably going to be on the team for the year. That's the reality of the NFL we're dealing with. When you're undrafted, you have to do everything right. You have to be on time every single time. You can't be getting in fights and you have to show Sparks where they're like, like, wait, who's this kid over here? I could around my first year of camp and act like an idiot and they're gonna be like, give him time, let him mature. He's a talent. Blah, blah, blah, all those things. If you're undrafted, Shiloh said, you cannot be swinging on a tight end. That's just, it's an unforgivable move. It's dumb and it might have hurt you from getting into another team.

[A]

Yeah, grab his face mask, bro.

[B]

Come on. I.

[A]

You get caught up in the moment there for sure. I mean, you said that. I got, I got no notes.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

You got to do everything right. Like, you gotta do everything right on. You have no. You don't have nine lives. You don't have any extra lives. Like, you got to be somebody. That's where it's like, oh, hey, he's pretty good. Does he know the playbook? Is he serviceable on special teams? That he do all the things right? That's where you set yourself up for the best chance. To me, what. What's the saddest about this whole thing is it's not even about Shedeur. It's not about Shiloh. It's about how everybody else feels about fans that are on the other side, that are arguing on social media about the whole thing. Because if you. The way you put it, it's like if you watch the body of work shedeur has put out there since he's the NFL, since he's gotten into training camp, the way he's handled interviews, everything, he, he. He knows he's got to put his head down to work, and he has done that. I think he's going to continue to get opportunities, but for everybody to make it, it's just. It's truly crowds arguing against crowds. It's not even about the actual player.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People being upset about, you know, it feels like a politicized fucking thing.

[B]

Yeah. It's too much. I mean, we're. I mean, we're. The headlines, the fun storylines are about to start coming out where we can all kind of grasp something. Is this team good? Oh, this team's fumbling. We're gonna have all those things.

[C]

Things.

[B]

July, August, everyone's looking for a story. Every media outlet is trying to do it. You'll watch Cam Ward podcast. What do I ask? I ask about Shadira Sanders. Why? Because I know you. You guys are going to go and be like, oh, we talking about shitter Sandra, let's go. Let's go. Look at that clip. Yeah, we all do it, but it's like, now we're getting to real football, where the real that actually matters in that world is going to happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're going to be good this year or you're not going to be good this year.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of good highlights and story lines, we will be doing a watch party Oct. 5 at the Brooklyn Blow Brookly Bowl Watch party with the Titans. October 5th.

[B]

October 5th.

[A]

What you can look forward to is the merch drop that's happening as you're watching this episode. Vwtb.com all the gear you're seeing the boys rocking right now. If we die, we die. We got Nebraska merch. We got Michigan merch. We got a. We got a plethora of new merch in the store that just dropped these hats. That you're looking at right now. A lot of different stuff that is on BWTB.com we're also. Again, tailgate announcement. The boys. You. As you know, we're doing a live show show Lincoln, Nebraska at the rococo Theater on September 19th before the prestigious bus and bowl. We will also be doing a bus and bowl tailgate on Saturday morning. Saturday morning in Lincoln, Nebraska. Tune into the locker room on Wednesday for another special announcement involving the bus and bowl. But we will be releasing those details as we get them. So again, live show tailgate bwtb.com let's have some fun.

[B]

Also, big shout out to Nebraska and Michigan for allowing us to use their license licensing. I know that's a thing that people don't really talk about a whole lot, but to have the end Nebraska go big red. If we die, we die. To have all that on one shirt takes a lot of work. Also shout out G for working through that process. Michigan, the Go blue handle. The victors. Michigan, the. The winged helmet. All of it. We have had to work with them. They have allowed us to use this licensing to have like custom busting with the boys merch.

[A]

We got the logos on the head.

[B]

Got the logos on the hats. I mean, buddy, this is. It's a special year body bwtv.com new merch drop tomorrow. Yep. I think, I think the quote by Garrett was optimism. Let's hope that merch comes in so we could promote it. Correct. So if you haven't seen a promotion on the new merch, it hasn't come in, but if you did, hey, go and check because it's out there.

[A]

Promotion. Hey, and tickets for the live show are going fast.

[B]

You don't want to. You don't want to miss a live show. Oh, we're coming cooking right now, huh?

[A]

Yeah, I think it's gonna be a great week.

[B]

There's another big announcement about the live show. Tune into the locker room Wednesday, 6pm that's the college football edition.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Big announcement. Specifically around bus and bull and the live show. We'll leave it at that. We'll leave it at that. But not. You might want to call and check in on that. Let's talk about. Would you like me to go ahead? Let's talk about row. Row. Sparks are a two win prescription treatment for guys who need a secret weapon against softness. Rose sparks can give guys bigger, thicker, longer erections because they get fuller after rose sparks dissolve. They work in 15 minutes on average if prescribed. New sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of Sparks on a recurring plan, connect to the provider at Roe Co Bussin to find if prescription rose sparks are right for you. That's Ro Co Bussin for $15 off your first order. Compounded drugs are permitted to be described under federal law, but are not FDA approved and do not under undergo FDA safety, effectiveness, effectiveness or manufacturing. For full safety information go to Ro company Safety info. Now row we have a spicy, spicy, spicy rotier talk. The category for today's Ro Tier talk is role play.

[A]

Oh, can I be honest? Hand up. Can I be honest? Can I just get out in front of you?

[B]

Can I just say something? Do. Can I say that I just want to pitch my wagon? Do you. You. Whatever you're about to say, I'm probably the same. Okay, go ahead.

[A]

Not a deep bag. Really not a bag at all when it comes to role play. Same. I flirted with it. You know, you fantasize about the role play stuff. And, you know, I've had a situation or two, and it's just. I get awkward.

[B]

I am.

[A]

I can't deliver.

[B]

I know. To me, it's like you just excited when it happens. Anyway. You want me to put, like, I feel like when you're putting an expectation on it, and then you go. When you put the clothes on or whatever, there's a chalkboard, the whole thing.

[A]

Like, I'd like to think we'd be having stories with Taylor. Like, for me, as far as it goes is wifey might be throwing on some lingerie, but I'm sitting there silent like, oh, you look good, baby.

[B]

Yeah. Heavy breathing. As you know, once that blood flow goes from your brain to down below, there's not a whole lot of. I can't do a whole lot with myself, you know?

[A]

Well, can we?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Sitting on the edge of the bed and you just. He's got the little boner leaned up like this.

[B]

He's kind of like, just. He's like fighting for his life to get his head out above water. So you ready for this? Maybe because we are not well versed in this. We create our. Our tear talk together. It's just a thought. It's a brainstorm. No bad ideas in a brainstorm. How do you feel about that?

[A]

I'm. I'm with it.

[B]

Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. I'm gonna go. This probably be. This would be my tier one. Something about a massage table. So you know what I'm saying?

[A]

Are we talking massage table?

[B]

Like something about, you know, I. I honestly, Taylin's family watches this show. So I'm trying to be as respectful as possible, especially grapple, win. But it's like the idea this hasn't happened. The idea of, you know, are we talking with the Robert Kraft type of situation. You get, you know, know, get a massage, laying down, towel, the whole. The whole kit kaboodle. What's happening? I had no idea this was happening. And then it happens.

[A]

Are we talking massage table like on the show, Dave, where he's getting milked in the garage where you got a little cut in?

[B]

See, that's maybe. Sure, go ahead. Throw that one in there. Two, three.

[A]

I don't know if I'm thinking anything. It's like, you know, you just feel the get uncomfortable. Like, yo, do we call this one aap? And like, you know, Charl walks in the room, she's got a helmet on. She's got a Nebraska helmet on. And hey, sweetheart, we're playing a gap tonight. She comes in and I got the. I got the full suit on and I tackler. And you know how they go to where they roll around and they're starting to get up off the field. She rolls around, we end up in doggy style, and we just call that we're a gapping tonight, sweetheart. And she just keeps the helmet on. You know what I mean?

[B]

Hey. Because we're both uncomfortable. I'm with you. I'm with you.

[A]

Or get her a headset on. Maybe she plays Dana Holgerson. She wears a boys hat. She's got a Nebraska jersey on. She's got the heads.

[B]

Big dub just.

[A]

Yeah, we're in a two minute drill, sweetheart. Get me going. Give me going. She starts, right?

[B]

No, you guys win the game. You're in the locker room after and like, hey, you called a hell of a game. You called a hell of a game.

[A]

Yeah, she calls the game. I'm the commentator. Touchdown. We start jumping, hugging, and then we just start going.

[B]

She's sitting there. She just got. She got the towel over her shoulders there. Door. You hear the door open and close behind her. Call it a good game today. She looks back. You think so? I think a lot of things. And then all of a sudden something starts going down a little bit. All with red and white on. Yes, yes. Love you, sweetheart. Sher, what do you got? What's your tier one? Sherm would be fantastic at role play.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now. Now I kind of want to answer it. Seriously. I was going to say pick six at the Holiday bowl would be pretty good.

[A]

Another Willie C. Like, I just. Rolodex I have a playbook of. Of fantasies I gotta play out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All my best plays. Yeah. Just after I go just dab shout out to row.

[B]

I just. I. I love so many movies. I would want to do, like, some.

[A]

Kind of movie scene, some kind of movie character.

[B]

Oh, how Lord of the R. If I'm Aragorn, she's Eoin.

[A]

That's game over, dude. I have Sher. How would you handle being a. Like a team teacher? Substitute teacher.

[B]

Why don't you guys try a little something real quick?

[A]

See, now I get uncomfortable. I'm gonna be Jill.

[B]

Yeah, you. You could crush it. And I'm the substitute. Yeah, you're the substitute. Okay. All right, class. Everybody, let's get our pencils and papers out. Let's quiet down. Oh, you right there in the front row, you had a question? Yeah. What will.

[A]

Mr. Young, what will we be learning today?

[B]

You can just call me. You can just call me Sherman. Mr. Young's my father. Today we're going to be studying anatomy. Do you know what anatomy is, Jill?

[A]

Will you teach me what anatomy is, Mr. Young?

[B]

Absolutely. That's the study of the human body. Would you want to come up and I can demonstrate something in front of the class?

[A]

Oh, I wouldn't mind that. Mr. Young, you're looking really real burly today. Do you mind taking your shirt off and I can explore your anatomy?

[B]

Hold on. Settle down. Sounds like you need a little private tutoring after class.

[A]

Oops. Class is over, Mr. Young. It's just me all alone. Dee Dee, Dee Dee.

[B]

The bell rings. Everybody clears out. I'd probably take my mom's.

[A]

Mr. Young, I've heard you're somebody who likes to take charge.

[B]

I sure do, Jill. I sure do. And you've been misbehaving in my class. I don't know if we can have that anymore.

[A]

Are you gonna punish me, Mr. Young?

[B]

I might just have to. Get over here. You scoundrel. All right, Good job, guys. That was nice. That was good. That was solid. Yeah, I see what you mean. That's hard. That's hard. Hey, good job.

[A]

Yeah. For everybody out there. Tuned in right now. Hopefully you're watching on YouTube.

[D]

YouTube?

[A]

Subscribe. Don't be afraid to subscribe.

[B]

You like content like that? Go ahead, hit the subscribe button. You know, that's what you're gonna.

[A]

If you like what you just heard. Yeah, you're on Spotify. Spotify right now. Just hit that follow button. There is more to come from that.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

All right, so I feel like the women too. They want you to like take control. That's where for me it would get awkward. I'd kind of be like the way Sherm was where I just. You keep throwing it back.

[B]

Yeah. I always try to make jokes and then Taylor's like, what are you doing?

[A]

Throw it back in it. Yeah.

[B]

Laughter is the way to your heart. Right. And then it just, ah, you know.

[A]

Spicy road too.

[B]

I hope they got everybody horned up. Fifteen minutes on average. All right. We feel good. Yeah. Let's get the hell out of here, huh? I think we all need a break.

[A]

I feel, I feel about the way I do. If we were to do like a little role play at the house.

[B]

All right, this episode, Cam Ward, first overall pick by the Tennessee Titans and this past draft, a lot of exciting stuff. First, first interview I think he's done. First long form interview he has ever done. Had him. Tyler Lockett, the boy, the biscuit, Corey Levin on there. I think everybody who is a fan of football will enjoy listening to these three talk. Three very different personalities. All three play for the same team. Team. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's enjoy this episode.

[A]

I love thinking that the Titans fans tuning in that they just got to hear that before we get to the interview.

[B]

Yeah. Hopefully they made it to the interview. This interview is brought to you by Bud Light. Bud Light is always brewed with four simple ingredients for a clean Chris taste. Bud Light is the official sponsor of the NFL. The NFL draft tied into you the UFC, Shane Gillis's 2025 tour. Bud Light partners include Peyton Manning, Taylor Lawrence, George Kittle, Will Compton, Baker Mayfield, Emmett Smith, Shane Gillis, post Malone, Dustin PO Stock up on Bud Light now. Head to www.budlight.com locator to find a store near you. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Let's get to this interview. You can make a difference in someone's.

[A]

Life, including your own, with a job in home care.

[C]

These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and.

[A]

Opportunities for overtime time.

[C]

Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.

[E]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, hydro silk razors and Edge shave gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four points to use for later discounts on groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[B]

Obviously, it's amazing to have you on the podcast. First overall pick. Incredible. Talk to me about your relationship with Puff and how difficult it was for him to get you on this podcast.

[D]

It real difficult for him. I try to get him here every day. Yeah, somebody got to do it, you know, on the team. I think the players don't do it enough. I mean, Puff, he's a cool guy. I mean, he's someone that I like being around. I'm glad he doing our. Our operation here. He tried to make me do much more than I really want to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So, you know, I'm trying to put my foot down on him. But, I mean, I like Puff. I'm glad he with us.

[B]

Yeah, no doubt. It's got to be. It's got to be tough. You come into this media market, everybody wants a piece of you. And really, at the end of the day, like, you're quoted having endless quotes of just being like, I am so focused on football, All I want to do is focus on football. Football. So for you to sit and take the time, I do appreciate it.

[D]

Appreciate you.

[A]

What's the learning curve been like for you going from college to the NFL? Like, how do you feel like you've handled it personally? You. You have quotes out there, waking up at 4:30, getting to get into the facility early. Like, what has the process been like for you, retaining the offense and just finding your own ways to learn through it?

[D]

I think the biggest learning curve was, I would say, the timing and terminology of the NFL. And I just think it's different from college because there's more communication in certain plays, maybe sometimes over communicating in certain plays. But it all comes down to each word means something for everybody. In college, we can have one word and everybody know what to do. So I think that was the biggest learning curve, just learning that, but also making it make sense in your mind, getting reps at home on the VR that we have here. And then I would say the biggest thing was saying the play call for me. And I did it my last year, Miami saying the play call, huddling up, but just how the play calls, how long, how wordy they can get. It's just very different in college.

[A]

Your study habits have to be good, like even on your own at home, because there's. It's like you hear stories about you. You could be talking shit. A defender and coaches in you're giving you the play call and you're retaining the entire play call and going out and executing. I feel like that's very impressive for a young age in a first year quarterback. So you're. Is there anything creatively that you're doing at home that is that you feel like people might not know? Ongoing. You have the VR stuff here. Anybody quizzing you, like what is your style of studying when you're by yourself?

[D]

I say every way my style from watching it on tape to cuz on tape. It'll show you the play call as well. And then I'll say the biggest thing I have just whoever I'm with, even Restrepo like he'd be up here with me. Some of the other receivers, they would read the play to me and I'll tell them only read it once. So I got to remember the first time cuz whether who's calling their practice Coach Nick or coach Callahan, they always read it twice. But I think just having to hear from somebody, whoever I'm running round and then saying it again, I think that was the biggest way how I learned to just spit out the play call fast and then just get rolling.

[B]

I heard an interesting story about you when you went to first got to Miami. I don't know who it was but they talked about like the first two or three days you were there and they were there to watch practice, see how spring ball was going and you were essentially the team on how we're not good enough, we got to be better. And it's like your second, third day in the building. Now I'm seeing photos of you standing up in front of the team at Tennessee Titans. Talk to me about your leadership mentality. And then when you walk into an NFL program seeing guys that are in year 10, year 8, 9, like guys who have families and kids and you're a young cat who's coming as a first overall pick. Putting yourself in a leadership category with this team.

[D]

I just think it's more about learning your teammates. As a quarterback, you always going to be the leader no matter if you want the job or you don't want the job. It comes with the territory. So I think young quarterbacks got to understand that and I understood that I would say as soon as I got to college and just being able to be in the locker room with vets. They also helped me on becoming a better leader. Knowing how to interpret my words to the guys. Then also just being around the older coaches in the building, Coach Bush and Coach Rocca I think those two guys, they set me down, down and they also helped me, you know, be a better leader just every day just try not to, I would say over communicate, but get the things that we really need to get done. And that just all comes with work ethic and I think just the grit that you want to have. Like in Miami, we were a very talented, talented team last year, but when I first got there, we weren't there mentally. So I tried to get guys there mentally because in day I say at least 80% of the game is mental. Yeah, you gotta have some physical, you know, attributes to play the game, but you gotta have a mental attribute as well. And just for here, I think just all about playing together. I think we got a great group of guys in the locker room. We're unselfish group and I think the vets that we have in Jeff Quandre, Tony Calvin, like they've helped me just in this short amount of time, you know, get to at least being able to play at a high level. I know I got a lot of work to do and I'm glad I got those guys back.

[A]

Bobby, you mentioned like stepping into college and understanding the role that you're playing leadership wise and being the quarterback. Who's been your biggest influence in leadership? Because it is uncomfortable no matter how you spend it, the first time you're standing up and speaking to the team or stepping out of your comfort zone to be like, I'm going to take on this responsibility. Who's been your biggest influence when it comes to leadership?

[D]

I wouldn't say I had an influence on that, on being into leadership. I just always felt that I'm always say what's on my mind. No matter how it comes out at any given moment. I just, I'mma say what I feel. If it touches you a certain type of way, then it touches me. I could give. I don't care, so.

[A]

But is that something you're observing from either your parents growing up, they created a space to where you, you could have this confidence with yourself?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I would say that. Especially growing up. My parents, they real old school, so they believe in whoopings, they believe in taking stuff away. So you ain't gonna get over on them, especially as a kid over time, you know, they got a little bit more lean with me since I'm the youngest of the family. So I got a lot, I got a lot away with a lot of stuff in my house. So I just think, I think, you know, just it's, it's a product Product of your environment. I think my parents raised me well and you know, I think, I think, you know, it shows in my leadership.

[B]

There'S a. I mean, this new era of college football where nil. Everyone's got money, everyone's making something. Chains, cars, the whole like, it's really like a mini NFL at this point. You see a lot of guys allowing the distractions to overcome them. But you're a guy that consistently you see, whether it's in press conferences, that viral video of you and Shadow Door sitting there and shadows like, hey, let's do a. Let's do a song. And you're like, I'm a football player. Like all people that know I'm a football player. At what point were you like, were you not letting yourself be distracted by all the new shiny things? Obviously having one, you have one scholarship offer coming out of high school, then you go to Washington State and you end up in a place like Miami. There's a lot of opportunity there with you making money to be distracted, but you just seem like a guy that consistently is like the main thing is. The main thing. That's all that matters is football.

[D]

I just think that's how I always carry myself. Like even now, even after signing the field, I still don't have no crazy stuff. Eventually I'm going to give me some crazy stuff because I worked for it. I want to eventually. That's just never been my focus. You know, at that time, right now, I still don't my focus and I want to be known as a football player. At the end of the day, I just think, you know, that's what, you know, at least I was put on this earth for one thing to do is play football. I think I'm very good at it it. And I just, I just believe in just showing, you know, my skill set. Letting everything else. Take care of yourself.

[A]

I was just gonna say, why do you love football so much?

[D]

I. I think I love it more now because it wasn't my first love. So every day I'm constantly learning something different. Whether it's by myself, whether it's about what I need to get better at or just in offense particular. I was a big time basketball player growing up. That's really all I want to do. And then, you know, just over time, football just became just better to me. The, the atmosphere around it, the crowd around it, the enthusiasm everybody plays with. And I just think there's nothing in this world like football. Nothing. No other sport can relate to it. And I really didn't start Taking football serious until my senior year of high school. And I think just after that, there wasn't a lot of kids, you know, who could throw a football like me. And, you know, I just took off and ran with it. Look where I'm at now.

[A]

Did you start picking up football because you're like, all right, basketball might not be working out for me at the next level?

[D]

Yeah, it was. It was sort of like that. I wasn't really getting no, no offers or wasn't hearing from no big time schools. You know, in basketball, I played football my whole life. My dad was a quarterback. He taught me how to throw the football. But I was just so in love with basketball that I want to push it away. But then, you know, just over time, I just had to get back to it because I knew it was my opportunity to, you know, showcase my skills.

[A]

After you get wild.

[B]

Yeah, it is. After you get one offer, you end up going there for a year. What is take me through the transfer portal? Because Will and I were old. Like, there was no, like, nil. If you transferred, you'd have to sit out for a year back when we played college. But like, what is that process like? Like, when you have to look at the team, you're playing with me like, I'm out of here. I'm going to find a better opportunity.

[D]

For me in my future transport a while is. It was wild the first time I got in and the second time got even worse. And it's just going to continue to get worse and worse in. In regards of why the person is transferring. I was transferring for a better opportunity. I played FCS for two seasons. I balled out both seasons. I just think it was ready for me to take the next step. I wanted to go to a Power 5. I couldn't do that at a high school. So when I got my opportunity, I would go. Then when I left Washington State, I did two years there. I really was just wanted to find a new place. I was gonna leave at the end of the season no matter what, whether it's gonna go to the draft or hit the portal. I already had my mind made up and just going to Miami, I think it just, you know, just made everything come to light. But I just, I really think it depends on why the kid is transferring. And majority of the kids who are transferring, whether they get in the portal late or early is because they're trying to get on the field. Because at the end of the day, the goal is to try to get to NFL no matter how hard it is. No matter how you can get it, that's the goal. And half the kids, I would say three, four kids are transferring because they need to see the field. That's the only way you can get to the NFL. And I think the nil made it better, especially in not only quarterbacks, but everybody, because now, like, we can actually get paid for a job. Like college football is a job. You have a way different schedule than basketball player or, you know, if it's a. If it's a soccer player or in college or just a regular student college, like, the job is actually different from early mornings to late night nights. The fall camp is where the job really kicks the edge of the season. So, you know, I'm glad, I'm glad, you know, I was able to get, you know, what I deserved in college. I'm glad the young guys are going to continue to get what they deserve.

[B]

You, you talked about every kid wants to go to the NFL, wants to go to the draft in 2024. You declared for the NFL draft, ended up going to Miami. Like, what was that process, like, where you're like, you know what? I am going to take one more year and maybe get my draft stock a little higher or whatever it is. Because you said if the goal is the NFL draft and you send in that page paper and they're like, oh, you could be whatever, first, second, third round pick. It's like you're. It's like they're basically saying you can achieve your goal right now. What was the reason to go to Miami?

[D]

I think the reason to go to Miami is I. I love college football so much. I didn't think I was ready, but also what they were telling me, I just thought it was B.S. i got a chance to compete with some of the other guys, you know, at camps, in the draft class before. And I've just always thought I was better than those guys. And so going to Miami was easy for me. I knew in that situation I wanted to go somewhere where I wasn't part of a rebuild. They returned the whole receiving core, the whole offensive line. They returned majority of the defense. And so really it was just plug and play for us the whole time I was there. Coach Dawson in my OC there, he's a spread. He's a spread guy. He got to coach NFL guys and Geno Smith and Clayton too. So he has some experience with NFL quarterbacks. And so I just think the, the biggest thing for me going there was just being myself. And then it to me is also another opportunity to lead coach crystal ball. He gave me the keys to the kingdom there. He let me, you know, run the team how I thought it should be ran. But you know, we were able to get a couple wins off that season.

[A]

Taking a quick break from the episode because we are also brought to you by True Classic. The boys at True Classic just sent the boys a lot of these guys good prima shirts where they got a little curve in the shirt to make you look good and feel good. Find True Classic at Amazon in Costco, Sam's Club and Target nationwide or [e-mail] Bussin these shirts, boys, I am telling you, got a little length so that way it doesn't get a little too high on the waistline but on the sides it's got a little curve up. Fits you very nicely. Highlights your physique. Look good, feel good, play good with true classic. That's trueclassic.combussin back to the episode.

[B]

Enjoy that Pima T shirt.

[G]

You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, healthcare, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregon oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.

[E]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, hydro Silk razors and Edge Shave gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four times points to use for later discounts on Gro groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[A]

You mentioned the Nil portal being wild. Is there a story you look back on as the wildest story in your nil portal days.

[D]

For me or just.

[A]

Or maybe something you witnessed something I witnessed.

[D]

I did see something. It's about. I was a part of it actually when I was going to Miami and they wanted Jeremiah Smith. At the time I didn't know who he was cause he was young and I'm trying to get me a place to play and so they tell me to just look him up, watch him a little bit and. And that boy's a baller.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And so they gave me his phone number. I called him and I had told him like I'm Going to Miami. It was before, like, it had went out. Cause I told him this maybe a week earlier, before I told him. So I been knew where I was gonna go. But I'm always gonna do everything on my time. And so, you know, I called him. You know, we chopped it up. He ended up going to Ohio State. I was kind of salty, but, you know, I'm glad he went to Ohio State.

[A]

Oh, so you guys are about to be a package of deal, like, in your head. You're like, all right, I'm gonna call. I'm gonna call up. I'm gonna call Jeremiah Smith, and I'm gonna let him know that I'm going to Miami in. In thinking that we're going to be aligned in both going together. And so when you're telling him, you're thinking, all right, he's probably going to follow suit based on our relationship. So then when he chose Ohio State, you kind of felt n.

[D]

I wouldn't say that because I already knew the offers he had. But I tried to get him there for me so I can have me a good pass catcher. But they already had good receivers there, so, I mean, he's one of the best players coming out of high school. I think he made a great decision going to Ohio State just because productively, what they done in the receiving room there, he's going to have a chance, know, another year or two to be one of the best, you know, receivers to come out of there.

[B]

Yeah, hardline, too. I mean, he was a wide receiver. I think he's the OC now.

[A]

Yeah, he got elevated, like.

[B]

Yeah, they just produce wide receivers all the time. Do you think you were close getting them? You got off that phone call I needed. Was there a PC that's like, we're.

[A]

About to shock the world.

[D]

Got him. Yeah, I was. I think if I would have committed earlier, I might have had a better chance to get him. But I just waited so long. I literally wait till the last day. It's just. He got. He got, you know, dreams, too.

[A]

He.

[D]

He got to make his decisions, I think. I think. I think if I would have, you know, waited a little or did it a little bit sooner, I think I'd had a better.

[A]

Ken's reflecting on his recruiting tactics. He's like, I should have stopped dragging my feet.

[B]

Yeah, if I would have just. Yeah, if I would just committed a little bit sooner, I could have had him. You talked about going to these camps and seeing these other quarterbacks and being like, I'm better than these cats. So before Your. Your final year at Miami, there's a lot of conversations revolved around Shador Sanders. He's the first overall pick. Obviously, you guys. I'm assuming you guys have a great relationship. Some of the clips you've seen and stuff like that. What. What is it like for you to have, like, this rivalry with Shador and have it play out the way it has?

[D]

I don't have a rivalry with him. That's my boy. So at the end of the day, this whole process, we thought me and him were going to be one and two the whole time. Whether he's one, I'm two. Whether I'm one, he's two. And so that's just always been, you know, our mindset. It didn't go that way. But, I mean, just coming out of college, even to the draft, I thought he was one of the better quarterbacks in the draft as well. Even throughout college, he's been productive. Where he's been every time we both started fcs, he was at, you know, Jackson State. I was at Carter, Warren Word. And that's where really we met for the first time with our quarterback coach when we first got to college. Then he. He's always been, you know, just a great person to be around. A lot of stuff out there on him ain't really, you know, the truth. Just because they spin it different ways, like they spend stuff about me different ways. But, I mean, I've always thought he was a productive quarterback. I mean, a lot of people may have their own opinion. I have mine as well. But, I mean, when he gets his chance, you know, to become a starter, I know he gonna make the most of it. And, you know, I'm ready to get back to. Back to work with him, you know, after the season, you know, talk some old stuff to him, you know, say some crazy stuff. I mean, we just gonna keep on pushing each other.

[A]

You talk about the media spinning things different ways, you're leaving. Halftime was getting spun a lot of different ways. At the bowl game in Miami. Was it always the plan? You go out there? Was it you. Were you going after the record, and then once you get the record, you were going to shut it down? Was it just play one half of football? Was it try and get Miami out to the fastest start as possible, and you were going to be done because obviously you have the net, you have this career to think about next. But what was the game plan going into that bowl game? Yeah, that was crazy because it got spun everywhere, bro.

[B]

There was a lot of different things.

[D]

About that And I didn't even know how this was going on until I said maybe two hours after the game once I think my cousin sent me a text message message or something because I really don't be checking my phone like that. And that's just always been, you know, a part of plan. After we lost the Syracuse, which by the way, crazy. That was pain up what, 21. Yeah, pain.

[A]

So sorry to open.

[B]

That's a whole different conversation. Yeah.

[D]

But after, after that, me, Coach Dawson and Chris Ball, we all had a conversation. They knew what I had, you know, in store in the future. And they also want to, you know, leave the program the right way. And I respected it for it. That's always been the plan for, for me to play, you know, a half actually played, you know, more than me and the OC had talked about. And so I want to, I want to get out of there. When it was my time at least up in this, up in the game, we were up by I think three points. And then at the end of the time they were trying to find out who their quarterback was going to be for next year. They ended up playing one of the young guys. So that, I think that let them know that, you know, they want to go try to get a quarterback. They got a good one in Carson Beck. But I also think, you know, the guy who did play Emory, you know, he's a good quarterback. And after this year, you know, if it's Emory, Tom, I think he'll have a good, a good year once it's his turn.

[B]

What is it like? Will brought up the Syracuse 20 up by 21 1. When you, when you're walking to a game in Miami and you're like, essentially I have to put up 40 for us to win and things are not going your way sometimes, what is that conversation like from you to the defense or to the team when it's like we're essentially wasting this offensive juggernaut that we have going on here because you did the, your offense was crazy.

[D]

Yeah, I think, I think the end of the year we played team ball really majority all the time. Like I can say the Virginia Tech game, I had two books and the defense, they kept us in the game. The Georgia Tech game, we didn't have our best game offensively and the defense did enough to keep us in the game, getting every two minute drive and we didn't come through. In the Syracuse game, we didn't lift up the defense enough to be able to win that game and finish it out. So I just think I Think at key times, you know, we didn't lock in and that that ended up resulting us not making the playoff. But I mean, we had a good run. We had. I think it was like five or six or seven, maybe seven of us that got drafted. So that's a good draft class for Coach Cristobal. All of us are good places that we want to be in. But I mean, one of those. We have a game like that when you up that much and then. And you just end up losing like that. That's something that you don't want to go through as a competitor. But end of the day, you gotta lose to win. That's how I think of it. And the guys who got drafted, we all in good situations. And I believe that Miami gonna be able to get some more draft picks in this next draft class.

[B]

What? When did you know that the Tennessee Titans was gonna be your new home?

[D]

I knew.

[B]

Like, when did you know? When did you be like, I'm pretty sure this is gonna happen. And then when were you like, all right, I know for sure now. This is. Is happening.

[D]

I. I think honestly, pro day. I think pro day.

[A]

We hear you.

[B]

Puff, puff.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't worry.

[A]

Like, we see you back there.

[B]

You see he's got. He's enjoy. Yeah. Does he have a meeting?

[D]

This don't work. This ain't my damn watch.

[A]

What you talking about? I had to check my what, nine.

[B]

And you're free to go whenever you'd like.

[D]

I see.

[B]

The last question.

[A]

We're in the middle of a Titans question. You bet.

[B]

You want us to promote the Titans.

[D]

You need to put the camera on pro. Yeah, I would say I knew, at least in my mind, pro day after pro day. Cause that was their first time to get to see me throw in person. And then. Cause all the draft is, you got an idea where you going? You see just stuff they put on TV out there to meet, but you don't know until your name get called. And so even like when he was at the draft, they was on the clock, you know, they waiting like two, three minutes. I'm like, what's going on? What's going on? And so they ended up calling me, telling me that they gonna take me by me. That's an unbelievable experience. I mean, it's something that you dream of every single day of your life. For me, I want to be a professional basketball player. But, you know, I knew, you know, the chips wouldn't fall my way, but they fell my way in football. And so when you get a chance to to be a pro at something, you don't take it for granted. But I mean, that was a unbelievable moment, not only for myself, but all the other draftees. No matter where you was, first or seventh round, we all gonna remember that. You know, I'm glad I'm here, you know, not nowhere else.

[A]

What, what individual defensive player are you most excited to line up across from, in a way, to where it might be? Oh, fuck that. Smiles Garrett about to try and get my ass. I would say, like, oh, that's Patric D out there. Calvin, I can't wait to watch you work today.

[D]

Individual. Well, so I. I would say more D lineman, because I'm not really going against a DB every play. I'm going against a D lineman every play, whether they trying to sack me, pressure me, whatever. So D lineman. And I would easily have to say Max Crosby and Chris Jones, those two. Those two of the best football players in the world, probably some of the greatest of all time. So I'm trying to be up there, you know, eventually when my time is done in the NFL. And, you know, if you want to be up there with them guys, you know, you got to be able to compete with those guys and you got to be, you know, say some crazy stuff to it. You got to be able to get them to play your game.

[A]

You have some crazy stuff. You say with Jeff Simmons at practice, there's always some, you, you know, a fight broke out. Cam Ward, Jeff Simmons, you having fun with the D line of the Tennessee Titans?

[D]

I always have fun with those guys, Jeff. I think the sleepers are the key. That's my guy right there. Even James Lynch, I be messing with him. Bash, we all be having a blast out there, but I mean, I'm ready. So, you know, they think everything is sacrifice. I'm telling them it's not a sack. So, you know, if they ever get a chance to, you know, play me the game, they gonna find out.

[B]

Yeah, Bud Light question. So anyone would do anything for an ice cold Bud Light? What is something that Cam Ward would do anything for?

[D]

Kansei family, would I do anything for? Yeah, I would do anything. I'd probably say for football.

[B]

Just in general, just general.

[D]

Top football. I honestly don't know where I'd be without sports. That's why, you know, I think sports is one of the greatest thing because it teach you so much whether you win or you lose, whether it's an individual or a team sport. But especially for football, I mean, it's crazy how, you know, just a little weight, a Little pit skid can change a person's life forever. No matter what sport you play, a sport can actually change your life, your family's life, life. But I think. I think it teaches you more outside of just, you know, getting things that you want as well.

[A]

Cam Ward. Hey. Thank you, man. It's. It's been cool to watch from afar. I can tell that your parents did a good job. You speak on them. I love how you bring up examples of your dad and you can see quotes from your dad. You can tell your parents are proud and it fires me up. And thank you for your time, bro.

[D]

So appreciate it.

[B]

Yeah. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. All the things he said, all the things. Will that. Yes. Hold on. Do you want to ask a question, Jack? Oh, j. Jack and Garrett have been Titans fans their entire life. I do want to know who do you want to.

[A]

Jack, get the microphone.

[B]

Who in camp and in a preseason, who has shocked you the most on the new wide receiver core?

[D]

It's not even a shock, cuz I see it every day. Day, I say. I say Gunner. He went and snagged that big.

[A]

He snagged that one.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. We interrupt this episode to bring you Form Energy. Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeine derived from green tea. Form comes in a variety of flavor. Talking about screaming freedom. That's Bottle Rock, Bottle Pop inspired. Grape Smash, Blue Blitz, Orange Fury. Perfect for those who put in the work. You wake up early in the morning. Morning. You get after in the gym. Your kids are up all night. You have a newborn baby. Whatever it is you need, that extra boost of caffeine. Form Energy is going to give it to you. Form Energy. We do the work. Let's get back to the episode. I'm gonna learn about you on the Fly Man. What year is this for you? 11. Yeah, buddy. That's incredible.

[C]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[B]

I mean, how does it feel to be playing 11 years in the NFL? Did you ever think that as a kid?

[C]

No. I mean, I just wanted to play eight. So, I mean, right now I'm just in overtime pretty much.

[B]

So we're just bonus. We're in bonus hours right now. Go out, drink it the next night, you'll wake up in the morning, you're like, I still feel pretty good.

[C]

Yes. It's a little. It's different, you know, obviously, like your body changes and you got to be able to adapt all that different type of stuff, but for the most part it's cool because I get to experience a different city, different coaches, different teammates, rather than just being at the same place for so long.

[B]

Why did you just, like, where. Where did eight come from?

[C]

I just thought it was a good number. My dad played for seven, and then my uncle played for three. And so when people was just like, well, how long would you want to play? I was just like, I mean, eight sounds pretty good. Yeah, eight sounds pretty good.

[A]

Now you got them both combined.

[C]

Well, he beat me when it came to getting drafted. He got drafted in the second round, and then I went in the third. But for the most part, though, I mean, I think it's been pretty cool. I think after eight, like, the more that I played each year, I was like, man, I want to play again. And I still got so much that I could be able to get better at. And then even last year, when I looked at the film and I was watching myself throughout the season, I thought that I was still doing a lot of the same things that I was doing with getting open. It was just hard for the ball to find me with as many great players that we had. And so that's why I was like, well, I'm cool with going into year 11.

[A]

Yeah. What were some of the best. What were some of the best tidbits of advice from your. From your dad and uncle?

[C]

I mean, they gave me a lot of advice. It just depends on the situation. Obviously, like, one of the things that I would talk to my dad about is just special teams. Like, he was like, that's really the biggest part about being able to play. Play early. Because a lot of times if you're not first round or second round, you gotta be able to earn your way to be able to play. And so when they drafted me up in Seattle, I was already going to be a starter at punt return and kickoff return. It was more just my job to lose. And so the more that I was able to play and I showcased what I could do if they dressed four or they dressed five, I was also one of those people that were dressed. And at that point, it gave me the best shot to compete, to try to be within those first three receivers. So I think that was one of the biggest things my dad would always talk about. And then another thing he said was just don't worry about adjusting to them. Let them adjust to you within the coaches, because a lot of times they draft you because they loved what they saw when they watched you in college. And a lot of times when we get to the league, we start trying to change our game. To how we think they want us to play. And he was like, just go out there and just do the same things that you were doing. And then they'll, you know, kind of like work around you. And so that was really one of the biggest things.

[B]

What is the biggest difference culturally that you've seen between, like the Titans in Seattle?

[C]

I mean, I think it just depends on the head coach. Cause everybody's different, right? Like with Pete, it was come as you are. Like, I'm not gonna tell you what you can and can't do, long as it doesn't become a detriment to the team. There was a lot of, like, you had to be self aware and you had to be self motivated because we did things that was like, in a competitive level, like shooting hoops and doing all these things. And people could have so much fun, but if you weren't doing the work, you weren't gonna be on a team. And so he found ways to have fun, but also to compete. And the people who couldn't do both of those were the ones that wouldn't make it because they just fell in love with the fun and they didn't fall in love with the competing aspect. And then, you know, when Mike came. Mike's more of like a military style coach. So kind of similar to when I was with Coach Snyder in college. And so, like a lot of his stuff and how he goes about it is a lot different. And it's a lot more like time consuming and a lot more work oriented. And then coming out here with Cali, it's like, I think it's kind of the best of both worlds because he's come from a lot of different places where, you know, he's been within the Peyton Manning systems. He's been within and scentsy. And so kind of like understanding the new age of how to be able to tailor things to get the most out of your players. That's kind of like what Cali's starting to do here.

[A]

You have a. It sounds like you have a phenomenal head on your shoulders and somebody who is. You brought up the key word being self aware, like in the league. I have a couple different questions, but when it comes to, like, you know, your dad and uncle, I'm sure you got a lot of different types of game, but you're known for, like, when you catch the ball, if you get close to it, hit, you'll go to the ground. Like, to me, I'm seeing that. I'm seeing that as like, you understand that your best ability is Availability is probably a reason why you've lasted so long in the game. You're also somebody off the football field who optimized himself through poetry. You also have a real estate portfolio in Tulsa. So it seems like you've picked up a lot of things around the game to how can I allow the game to work for me on the field and stay available at all times and allow the game to work for me off the field at all times? Was this something that. That you were aware and trying to jump into and be intentional about, like, right out of the gate when you came into the NFL?

[C]

I mean. Well, I think football has always been a stepping stone of, like, what you should be wanting to do whenever you're done. I think a lot of times what we do is we put ourselves in a difficult spot because as soon as we're done playing, then we want to start the next thing. And it's a lot more difficult because the fan bases start to leave, because they start tailoring and going to different plays. Players. Then all of a sudden, maybe certain organizations may not help those players out as much because they were like, you never took advantage of the opportunities in the stuff that they had that was there with the marketing, the branding and all that different type of stuff. And I think for me, the more that I've just played, obviously one of the coaches that I had in college, his name was Andre Coleman, he would talk about how, like, man, look at Isaac Bruce. And was it Tory Hunter?

[A]

Tori Holt?

[C]

Tory Holt? I can't think of it right now. He was like, look at Tori Holt and Isaac Bruce. Like, they catch the ball, they fall, and, you know, they get what they can get and they live to play another play. And, you know, even in college, I was still catching the ball, running. I wasn't falling as much unless it was, like, three or four people. But it's not until you experience, like, some of those gruesome injuries that make you start to reflect and do some of those things. So, like, in college, even my freshman year, I ended up having, like, a lacerated kidney. And, you know, I think I still scored, but it was just the fact that I was out, like, the last two games or whatnot, just because I had a lacerated kidney. And then all of a sudden, when I got to the league, even though it was one of those freak incidents, I had caught a ball against the Cardinals, and then he landed on my leg, and then I had a tib fib, compound fracture. And then all of a sudden, you know, you learn over time that A lot of people don't come back from that. And so now that I was able to come back from that, you start to realize that the biggest availability is durability. And, you know, and vice versa. Durability is the best availability. So the more that you're out there, the harder it is to be able to try to replace you. Because they haven't been able to see certain people take as many reps to be able to have a chance to get in front of you. But as soon as there's something wrong with the injury, or even if it's minor or gruesome, it gives them a chance to be able to look at everybody else. And so I think for me, I just wanted to try to be out there the most that I can. And sometimes you sacrifice 1, 2, 3 yards, but if it's a third down or a fourth down, you know, you got to take those hits to be able to get it. So you still got to be smart in the aspect of when to fall and when not to. But it's also based off of the quarterback, right? Like, how fast can they get the ball in your hands? The faster they get the ball in your hands, the more you could be able to make the move. There's sometimes when it's third and four, you just need to secure the catch. So you might body catch it just to make sure you secure the catch, just to move the sticks. Because sometimes it's when we want to get more that things start to get taken away, like the ball.

[B]

When you talk about quarterbacks getting the ball out, putting in certain places. What have you seen from a guy like Cameron Ward this early in his career?

[C]

I think he does a great job and being able to lead the receivers. He definitely knows how to throw receivers open. And the more and more that we talk and communicate and connect, we kind of get a feel of. Of what I like, what he likes, and what's going to be the middle ground to be able to get the best out of both worlds. But, you know, everybody knows now he definitely comes in early, but I mean, he lives, sleep, breathes football. And I think as a rookie, like, the. The biggest thing that could be able to help your growth is just the mentality of understanding defenses and understanding how the league works, because it is a copycat league. And so the more that you can understand how defenses play in the NFL and how the offenses work within, who's your first read, your second read, your third read? Because even though they may be similar plays like college, in certain systems, there's different reads, depending on who the coach says you should look at first. But then in the league, it's a whole different read based off of that same play. So the more he's able to understand the logic of how the NFL works, which he's been doing a great job of, of I think that's just gonna speed up the process of him being more than ready.

[A]

What is your off the field between poetry and real estate? What do you.

[B]

What.

[A]

What fulfills you the most? What do you look at and you're like, oh, this is. I'm proud of this work that I've done.

[C]

You know, I never really paid attention to much of the work, but I mean, if I'm not doing poetry or if I'm not doing some type of real estate, I mean, I'm just watching tv. Like, I grew up and the way me and my mom were, we always just watched tv. We watched shows, we would watch movies. And so, like, that's literally what I do. Like, my wife gets mad. Cause it's like she can't do it all the time. But, like, I could literally sit at the house from sun up to sundown and just watch tv because I love watching shows. I wanted to be like. It's like growing up, I wanted to be like a detective, like a cop. Not a cop, but like a lawyer. And so I would watch shows and movies and try to figure out out the whole point of what this rider was thinking of before they would do it. And it would get to the point where, like, I already knew what would happen and I wouldn't even pay attention. And so, like. But I love doing it because it's almost like in football, you're scouting, you're trying to figure out what the coordinators are going to do and how defenses play. And you try to figure out how the story's going to end before you even start it.

[B]

What kind of shows. What kind of shows are we watching right now that we just love this guy? I've first off, Will, every time a new week starts, like, have you seen this show? Have you seen that show? And I'm always just three years behind everybody else.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I mean, right now I hadn't really been. I had watched Love island with my wife, so she wanted to watch.

[A]

Gotta appease her.

[C]

Yeah. So I was like, all right, I'll watch that a little bit. But I already had started this show a while ago, but one of my homeboys is watching Blind Spot. So I was like, all right, I'll watch Blind Spot a little Bit.

[A]

Bit.

[C]

But I mean, just some of the shows that I loved watching, like at one point, like Scandal, how to Get Away with Murder.

[A]

Good one.

[C]

Money Heist, definitely. That was in my type. That was in my top three for sure.

[A]

Especially during COVID Yeah. When I was popping off.

[C]

Some of the sleepers that a lot of us probably wouldn't watch is like the originals. Vampire Diaries, like Legacy, like all of that is fire. I ain't going to lie. That's pretty good.

[B]

Good.

[C]

Where do I want to go with this? Prison Break? Figure feel like that's an all time favorite. Yeah.

[B]

Lost.

[C]

I mean, I could go on for days, cuz Dexter. Yeah, you're crazy if you're watching Dexter. It's a good show. They just came up with another one.

[B]

Yeah, I saw one episode of Dexter. I thought the acting was horrendous.

[A]

Dexter, Ivan, Dexter was my first Netflix show that I consumed. Then it was Prison Break. That's kind of how I got into the streaming services. How about Severance?

[C]

Severance.

[A]

Have you watched that yet?

[C]

No, I don't think I watched Severance yet. It's a lot of shows that I've watched and I'm like, I can't think of right now because I can't think of the one that's on Hulu. But it's a lot of different shows. Nah, it's the one when it's like Paradise. I had watched Paradise. It's like something's about to happen in they world so they go down like underground and that's a whole world there that they living in.

[A]

Is that good? Is that one good?

[B]

G?

[A]

That's a good one.

[C]

It made season two.

[A]

How many, how many teammates hit you up? Like, hey, Tyler, help me buy a house, man. Let me get in on what you got.

[C]

Oh, probably a couple.

[A]

Do you work with any current teammates or former teammates?

[C]

Yeah, in a sense, like. Like I was able to help about some. Probably don't want their names named. So I probably helped 1, 2, 3, 4. I might have helped like five or six players, maybe seven or eight buy a house.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[C]

And so I helped one of them. I helped two of them sell a house. Like so it just depends because even if I'm not able to help them, I can go refer them to somebody and we can still get it done. But as far as me like working for them and helping them buy it or sell it lit definitely probably about six to eight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who is. Who was the guy that came on the podcast and had that incident with Percy Harvin?

[A]

Oh, Golden Tate.

[B]

Golden Tate, were you in the locker room?

[C]

Oh, no, I was still at K State.

[B]

Oh, that was.

[C]

Yeah. So when I ended up getting drafted, Golden Tate had just signed to go to Detroit.

[B]

Got you, got you.

[A]

K State. I got y' all taking the. The Big 12 this year.

[C]

Yeah, we gonna see. We'll see what they look like versus Iowa State State on Saturday in Ireland.

[B]

Feel good?

[A]

Yeah, we're about. We're one minute away. And listen, I want to respect. We respect that Mandatory breakfast.

[B]

Mandatory breakfast with no phones. We appreciate you taking the time. I know camp. Camp is hell. And so for you to come and sit here with us, hang out for a little bit and get out of your routine, it means a lot. So we. We really appreciate it.

[C]

No, I appreciate y', all, man.

[B]

All right, let's get.

[A]

We interrupt this episode to bring you dude wipes. Are you fumbling the ball when it comes to getting a confident clean back in your end zone, make the right play, call an audible and switch from dry toilet paper to wet extra large dude wipes. Why? It's simple. Wetter just cleans better. And dude wipes are wet and extra large, so they clear. Never smear your rear. So when you got to go number two, be sure to bring the number one product and clean dude wipes the goat of cleaning your keister. Available on Amazon and at Walmart nationwide. Dude wipes best clean, pants down. Back to the episode.

[G]

You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options, and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.

[E]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It is hot out there this summer, right? But don't sweat it. We got tons of ways to save on your family's favorite personal care items to keep yourself feeling cool and smelling good. Now through September 9th, earn four times points when you shop for items from your favorite brands like Right Guard raw sugar, Dove soft soap and Olay. Then use your points for discounts on groceries or gas on future purchases. Purchases offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[G]

This Labor Day, say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Annabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Anibase Pet Friendly, stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time with modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life. Now through Labor Day, get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees, every penny back. Shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[F]

You know how that feels, right?

[A]

First time you. Come on now.

[B]

That feels all right. All right.

[F]

We were born feeling that.

[B]

No, dude, no.

[A]

He was born with the pads off.

[B]

No.

[A]

First rounder. Yeah.

[B]

First round year. I played every preseason game, the full game.

[F]

It was. It was different back then. It was a little old school for sure.

[B]

Yeah. But, you know, I. Hey, I'm with you guys.

[F]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Your life was guaranteed, though, as a first rounder.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, his life.

[F]

His life was set up.

[B]

Dude, how's it been? How's camp? You making friends?

[F]

Yeah, dude, it's the. The group is getting a lot more tight knit. Camp's been great. Just been. Just been grinding like. Like, you know how I always have and getting opportunities with obviously Lloyd being down. He's coming back, so whatever way I can help out, that's how I've been doing, man.

[B]

Seemed like in that Bucks game, you're holding your own around there. Seemed like you're tossing some kids over the yard.

[F]

Actually, I mean, we. We held up pretty good for Cam. He was able to have time to sling it, so it felt good to stack a couple weeks and. And go against some good competition in practice.

[B]

Damn it.

[A]

What year's this for you?

[F]

This is year nine. Your training camp. Nine.

[A]

Let's go, bro. Isn't it crazy that you're in this building?

[F]

It is.

[A]

It's after, you know. When did you come here? 2018.

[F]

2017. 2017 was drafted under Malarkey, that was. What year was that for you?

[B]

Third going to my third. Fourth going to my fourth.

[F]

Like Derek Henry's second year. Like I was here with.

[B]

With.

[F]

I tell people all the time, like the first quarterback I snap to is Matt Castle. And then they're like, oh, dude, you're pretty old. And I'm like, yeah, I'm getting up there like, I just turned 31.

[A]

If you're in that locker room in 2000, if you're what, you fart? No, that was like, you cleaned and everything. Like, hang on, let me see. No, no, nothing. It could be a coffee one. You don't want to. You don't want to risk the coffee one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did it happen again? So back in 2018, it's like, you look around the locker room. It's like, which dude in this locker room is going to be here in 2025? Like, who's got Corey Levin on the bingo card?

[B]

No one.

[F]

There's nobody else. There's nobody else.

[B]

Kind of the longest tenure tie in. You just took a quick little break. Was that two years?

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

20.

[A]

20.

[F]

2019 and 2020.

[B]

Corey's the one of those cats that, like, left and came back and he's like, this is. This offensive line room is 10 out of 10 compared to everywhere else out there.

[F]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's all right. Why is that?

[F]

I don't know. It's the standard that was kind of set and just kind of the camaraderie that was kind of built. I don't know. Probably when you first showed up and there was probably a good room going before you, there was a.

[A]

That's a good locker room guy right there. Giving credit to just a past generation.

[F]

Cat uphold how it's been year after year, and obviously new guys, new personalities come in, but it seems like, you know, around here, they've always gotten linemen that generally enjoy being around each other.

[B]

So, you know. You know what Corey's got. He's got the, like, he's able to hit the cats that, like, from urban areas all, like, every different part of the world.

[A]

He's a gatekeeper.

[B]

He's a gatekeeper. He's. He's. He's their new Ben Jones? Because our locker room was. Was real shaky until Ben got there.

[F]

Year three, Glue Guy.

[B]

Glue Guy.

[A]

Glue Guy.

[B]

Glue Guy. You feeling confident about the season, about everything like that?

[F]

I feel good. I mean, you.

[B]

I mean, at this point, you gotta be like, 53 is locked.

[F]

I mean, I definitely.

[A]

Let's knock on wood.

[F]

I mean, yeah, always knock on wood. For sure. Anything can happen. But, I mean, I feel like I'm in a good spot as far as my role on this team. Um, I just, like, again, I just want to keep growing on it. See what happens with it. I got. I have a lot of tread on the tire still, so, yeah, just want to play.

[A]

You're obviously here going into year nine. Give remind. Remind the listeners out there that, like, what was it that one or two year period to what was it?

[F]

The Bears, Right. So I. What was that? I got released here in 2019, went over to Denver, was put down on peace squad after like two weeks, and then got off their peace squad. Chicago picked me up with like four games left in 2019. And then covet hits. We don't do OTAs, nothing. We just show up for camp. They released me. I was like, hey, I'm gonna go to the Patriots, be on their practice spot. That was like, that's gonna look good on my resume. You know, someone's gonna want to get me from there. Ended up hating football. Wanted to go home, went home.

[A]

Why'd you hate football so much?

[F]

After New England, I mean, it was just like. I don't know. I had already gotten released and bounced around a couple times that in that past year, like, my son was back home. He was maybe seven months old at the time, my first son. I don't know. I just started to kind of see the different side of the league and I was like, man, I don't have to do this anymore. But. So I decided to go home. And then that was the year that Derek went for 2K. And I was just in here, Nashville, just watching them and being around the buzz, and I was like, I still miss it. So then I started training again, probably like after the new year, and then signed with the jets in April. But I had already gotten down to, like, when I stopped playing, I was maybe like 2, 255, 260 within like three months. And then I got back up to like 285 when I signed with the Jets.

[B]

Was there a defining moment when you're bouncing back and forth at the idea of playing or you're maybe not giving your own football, where you're like, I'm gonna prove the haters wrong. Like, maybe you were late night playing a Risk game. Somebody comes at you and you're like, I gotta show these. These cats. I gotta. I gotta re. Energize my career.

[F]

Basically. Taylor tried to call me soft or.

[A]

Say that I love Muffin Top.

[F]

Muffin Top?

[B]

Yeah. You. You were. Yeah, go ahead.

[F]

It was something along those lines, but it kind of sparked something in me to be like, you know what? This guy. I'm not a Muffin Top. Whatever.

[B]

You're a biscuit.

[A]

I was kind of mean when you landed that.

[B]

Yeah, no doubt. But obviously it was needed. I mean, at the time, I mean, it.

[F]

It sparked something and it definitely got me going.

[B]

We played risk until like 2 in the morning and at 6am you did the group chat with Cleats on at the field.

[F]

I mean, I. I don't know, it was kind of. It helped me. It helped motivate me a little bit. I was already kind of getting started back and then that was just like, you know what? Just add a little bit of fuel.

[B]

It was.

[F]

It was great.

[B]

A little something.

[F]

Yeah, just a little something.

[B]

Welcome, man.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

What else? What's your favorite snack during film?

[F]

My favorite snack during film. I don't really snack much, but if it's afternoon, I gotta have a coffee so that I have energy for my kids when I get home.

[A]

How is that balancing the football life and dad life?

[F]

It's kind of. I gotta get back into it because we were just on the road for like 10 days, so I was able to, you know, practice, do whatever, and then just after, you know, and whatever. But now when I go home, the boys are ready to see me for like, I mean, we get home at a decent time. So I. I have a good few hours to. They're just wrestling and doing whatever the hell they want. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, but your football, you go home, you got to be dead. They put them down. You probably got to go back to football mode to prepare for the next day.

[F]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

It's a different life than when, you.

[F]

Know, you didn't have a gift and whatnot. When you put the kids down and then you check it out. Out if there's anything weird. But typically, you know, by this point in camp, nothing. We. We've installed everything. So, you know, it's not. It's not too crazy. But obviously we're playing Minnesota here Friday, so you take a look at the rushers and stuff like that and then you. By that time, it's freaking 10 o'. Clock. It's ready. Time to go to bed.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Wake up early.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you have any like, superstitions, locker room things you have to do before game?

[F]

I mean, nothing. Nothing major besides like putting the. Putting the pants in the same, you know, same way all the time. You know, always take like an ice bath before a game. Nothing crazy like that.

[B]

Just need to have a couple of check. Boxes of check.

[F]

They took away our. Our smelling salt. So we gotta provide our own. You know how they.

[B]

What's up with that?

[F]

I don't know. I. The. The club can't provide them for you. I think it. I think they said it. Mass concussion symp symptoms. So they. They don't want those anymore.

[B]

But they're like, hey, you can go buy your own and put it in your locker. Yeah, so do you have your own?

[F]

Josh Wiley provided some last. Last week.

[B]

Good badge for the boys on hand at all times.

[F]

They're. I mean, they're just not as strong as. As the old ones, you know what I mean?

[A]

You gotta find them.

[B]

You gotta go out there, buy ones in a jar now where you kind of.

[F]

That's what he had. They were just loose in the jar and it just kind of.

[B]

Yeah, but I feel like the same.

[F]

It's not the same. It's not the same as just cracking it on the sideline.

[B]

Especially like.

[A]

Yeah, you nostril.

[F]

You know that before kickoff, man, that's like special.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[F]

That's a special moment.

[B]

You even.

[A]

Holy moment.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like accepting the body of Christ before you go out there.

[F]

Literally, you're just.

[B]

The smelling salt is an all time move.

[A]

All right, let's go.

[B]

Who's number one bro on the team?

[F]

Number one bro on the team.

[B]

Who's a guy that's like, everybody would love this, cat.

[F]

Everybody would love this. I mean, there's. There's lots of guys on that team that, that are, bro. I mean, I think everyone enjoys Mason Kinsey. He's one of those guys that.

[B]

He's another guy that you just can't kill.

[F]

Yeah, I think everyone enjoys him. I mean, I would like to say myself, I think everyone enjoys my company.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

All right. We're just a few boys sitting on the back of the tailgate just catching up. What are you seeing out of Cam Ward as a rookie? Like, what do you notice trait wise that you're like super impressed with.

[B]

Pretend like cameras aren't on.

[F]

Just the bounce back. Like, if he has a bad throw or, you know, a bad period, the next one, he's trying to bounce back with the same confidence that he went into the first period with. And he's confident to make any throw he wants to. I'd say the confidence in the next play mentality.

[A]

How's it. What have you seen from like, leadership wise, being that young, coming into a locker room full of dads, you know.

[F]

I think we're all. The main thing is we're all bought in for, you know, the main goal. And I think obviously, you know, anyone's going to listen to the quarterback of the offense and, and, you know, being the first overall pick, like, staff did their due diligence to make sure this guy had all the qualities he needed to be the first overall pick. So there's merit in that. You know, we're going to listen to him when he speaks. He brought us up after the first Atlanta practice and kind of told us like, hey, that wasn't our standard whatnot. And when he talks, we listen. So we were all listening. We came back in the second Atlanta practice, this, and overall had a better day. So I think, you know, it, it doesn't matter with this group, age wise. We. We need leaders at all levels, at all, you know, at all ages, and I think he's one of them.

[B]

When you guys, when you see Cam and Jeff getting into it, that the, the media is probably blowing away out of proportion. What's the offensive line doing in that moment?

[A]

Yeah, did you get a couple in there? You get a couple blows?

[B]

You gotta, you gotta. I mean, Jeff's a big ass kick cat. You may be sneaking from the side, like, oh, that was J.C. you go first. Yeah, exactly.

[F]

J.C. was in there right away. But I mean, that's probably the guy.

[B]

You want to say.

[F]

Yeah, he's. He's big as. But we. I don't know, like, we. There was just some push and shoving and then all of a sudden it just kind of, you know, scrums up and obviously, like, there's guys way bigger than me. I'm kind of on the outside. What the hell's going on?

[A]

But Cory's like shoving backwards. Like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[B]

Grabs one guy and goes, you and me, we'll just end it. Feel like you're doing something, quit.

[F]

Hey, hey, knock it out.

[B]

Knock it out.

[F]

But no, they're.

[D]

I.

[F]

To me, it kind of seems like the relationship they have like a big brother, little brother relationship. And little brother just kind of upset Jeff a little bit and he just kind of barked back. It wasn't anything crazy. It was just a little pushing and shoving.

[A]

I need to see you hit hitting. Whenever you get a pancake in the game or something.

[F]

Yeah, I'll do it like, you do that.

[A]

You hit that. It's like, that's what you see somebody, you see an offensive lineman hit that celebration, you're like, okay, the culture and the swag here is growing. Look at offensive lineman. Just get a pancake and then just start, right?

[F]

It's a good selly for sure.

[A]

It is a good.

[F]

It's Nice. It's nice, buddy.

[B]

I miss you. I miss you.

[F]

I miss you guys, man.

[A]

I do, too.

[B]

It's been great.

[F]

Great.

[B]

We gotta get the chat fired up more.

[A]

I get another stream going for Risk.

[B]

Brad does the best job of keeping that stream together. Or that he's the.

[F]

He's the group chat's glue guy.

[B]

He is.

[F]

He is.

[A]

Dennis will pop in every now and then.

[B]

Dennis will pop in, but it's mostly to shame us for something. And then he's. Onward and upward, Cor. He's just always in the shadows.

[F]

I'm lurking. I'm lurking for sure.

[B]

Always. But we do got offseason. We got to hit a wrist stream for sure.

[F]

Let's do it.

[A]

You say you're year nine?

[F]

Year nine, one year away.

[B]

You've been playing in the league longer.

[A]

Than two guys sitting next to you. How's that feel to be a. He's in year nine. He had to go another one after that.

[F]

Yeah, it's tough.

[A]

That's tough business trying to get to them double digits.

[F]

It is crazy.

[B]

The first nine. I'll say that. Hey, next one. Nine to ten is the hardest. Everyone knows that. Nine to ten is the hardest one.

[F]

I mean, every year they're bringing in younger. And these young guys they bring in these days are so freaking strong and fast, dude, it's. It's unreal. But you just. I don't know, you got to do what you do to. To hang on, I guess.

[B]

And is there a piece of you that's like, I gotta get 10 so I can tell Will and Taylor I got 10? Yeah.

[F]

I mean, it's not just for you guys. Like, I. I mean, I wanna. I. I want to play. I have like, these different goals that I've been able to set the last couple of years, but my newest one is to try to be on the Titans when they open in the new stadium.

[A]

So try.

[F]

Yeah, try to try to still be here.

[A]

Yoda. Do or do not.

[B]

There is no try.

[F]

All right, then. I will be on the Titans when they open.

[B]

I had a goal, too. I had a goal. It was make it to when we had the alternate jerseys.

[F]

Didn't make it.

[B]

Didn't make it.

[F]

Didn't make it at the end of the stage.

[B]

Looks so nice. Do you think the Titan should go full time back to those jerseys?

[F]

I like the white helmets a lot. Are you talking the Oilers, the oiler ones? I. I like those every couple of games. But if we could go back to how we had white helmets at least.

[B]

And when do we change it? 18. Yeah.

[F]

When Rabel's first year, I believe we changed it.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

There's something special about the all white uniform, you know, or the way the white. White looks with the navy. With the white pant, you know, the classic.

[A]

I like the white helmets, too, because it's like the navy ones. They. They're just at their best when you're going like, all Navy. In my humble opinion, more versatility with the White House. Yeah.

[B]

You'd like to see a little more if you're gonna go white jerseys. Go white helmet, navy. All navy with the navy helmet. Goes hard. Do you miss the Smurfs?

[F]

The. The. I never really wore the. You didn't get the color rushes we did in. I think Thursday night in 2017 versus Pittsburgh was the only time.

[B]

Yeah. We got donkey that game.

[F]

And then I believe that was the.

[B]

Game AB went off, right?

[F]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah. So did. I think Cam Hayward had a good one, too.

[B]

I can't remember he go off in that game.

[F]

It was tough sledding. Yeah, tough sledding.

[B]

There's tough times.

[F]

That was a good line, though. You guys played very well together.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, Josh Klein. Yeah. Benny.

[F]

Jack Conklin was.

[B]

Jack. Was that Jack's first year?

[F]

That was his second year.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. It was a good crew.

[A]

Jack's still doing it out there.

[B]

Jack's still doing his thing out there. Sneakily. Gumby is just doing his thing. Does he do you to see the Browns play when you see the film? Is Jack still jacking?

[F]

Jack's still jacking.

[B]

The most unique technique you'll ever see in an office. Alignment of all time.

[F]

He's crazy. He. It defies all odds. Yeah.

[A]

Jacking all season.

[B]

He's jacking all season long. Buddy. We appreciate you coming on, man. Thanks.

[F]

Appreciate you having me, boys.

[A]

Love you, Biscuit, buddy.

[F]

Love you guys.

[E]

Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safe Way. Feel good and look good this summer with savings on your personal care favorites and earn four times points now through September 9th. Shop in store or online for items like Dollar Shave Club razors, hydro silk razors and Edge shave gel. Plus some favorite brands like Tampax, Pearl, Depend and Poise to earn four times points to use for later discounts on groceries or gas. Hurry in before these deals are gone. Offer end September 9th. Restrictions apply. Offers may vary. Visit albertsons or safeway.com for more details.

[G]

This Labor Day, say goodbye to spills, stains and overpriced furniture with washablesofas.com featuring Annabe the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $6.99, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Annabe's Pet Friendly Stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric built for real life. You'll love the cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time with modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your life. Now through Labor Day. Get up to 60% off site [e-mail] Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return return shipping, no restocking fees, every penny back. Shop [e-mail] Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[A]

My finance guys like you know we talk every day about stocks. We should just shut up and bought bitcoin. Just shut up and bought Bitcoin. Forget everything else and bank I have all my crypto on Kraken.

[E]

Dave Portnoy trusts Kraken with his crypto.

[A]

So do millions of clients around the world. Download the the app today.

[B]

Get $10 in Bitcoin after your first trade of $10 or more. Just enter code iheartten under add Invite.

[A]

Code when you sign up.

[G]

Not investment advice. Crypto trading involves risk of loss and is offered to US customers through PayWord Interactive, Inc.

[B]

Terms and conditions apply.