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Taylor Lewan
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the NFL the locker room. As always, I am joined by Clay Matthews, Will Compton, Delaney Walker, and my name is Taylor Lawan. This is a big week. A lot of games here, a lot of games that'll be discussed. We can talk about those while during the show. Let's take a peek at last week. Someone put week three here. Week two, Week two says Clay Matthews. Very nice.
Will Compton
Four two.
Taylor Lewan
That was really good. Delaney five and one. I wonder what that one was. Maybe it was the chemistry between Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. We'll get into that a little bit. Terrell Lawan, five and one and wee little Willie two and four. Wow. And if you check in on the college football one as well, it was about the same. Actually you did a little bit better in the NFL. Let's get into it this week. Bay Colorists. Before we get going though, subscribe, Unsubscribe, Resubscribe. It's very important. If you like the show, you like the stuff, it helps us out a bunch. Put a pumpkin in the chat. We are so close to spooked over.
Will Compton
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Taylor Lewan
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I'll tell you guys this, like when we do these streams, like it's really fun. Like the whole group chat goes, we hit a bunch of parlays and literally I just blind. I'm like, I just. I just. Every. Every parlay that comes in, I hit it, hit it Hit. But something about, like, you know, this week, Bill's first drive, what's it end in? Like, this person having catches on this drive. Like that gets you juiced up every single drive, and it kind of just makes it a little more fun, especially in a game. Like this week, this Thursday seems like it's going to be a nasty, nasty blowout.
Delaney Walker
And it's always too. It's like, when it's just a primetime game, it's the only game on tv. That's where you're just so bought in.
Taylor Lewan
Your focus is right there. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Because on Sundays, I don't know about y', all, but when I have the four screens up and one of them happens to be a red zone, I don't know, I get overstimulated. It's, like, too much for my infant brain to handle.
Delaney Walker
It's hard to keep up with. It's like you're following the games, but you're not actually watching the game.
Taylor Lewan
Very true. And I know we gotta get into the show, and we know that Clay is kind of. He's punted on the idea of doing entertaining intros. So I want to check in on you.
Clay Matthews
Wait. Okay, first of all, that's not true. That's not true.
Delaney Walker
Oh, so I got a gift today.
Taylor Lewan
Who are you? Who are you every week? That's what I want to know.
Clay Matthews
I'm me. I'm me every week. I want this to be the last time that I. That I am the glue guy for this locker room.
Taylor Lewan
Oh, dude, you can't do that.
Clay Matthews
So you gave me some heat last week, so I come bearing fruit this week.
Will Compton
Okay.
Clay Matthews
I know it's Will's birthday coming 19th, right? Yeah, it's Will's birthday, so. And I know you've been all in on the packers even before the mica trade, so I just wanted to get you something. Can we have the boys bring it out real quick? I just got you just a little something. Nothing big, just something to show my appreciation.
Taylor Lewan
Look at this.
Will Compton
No, no, let's put it right here.
Taylor Lewan
The ultimate. I think it's gonna go right there.
Will Compton
Okay, perfect.
Clay Matthews
So that is. That is £80 of Parmigiano. Reggiano, Straight from Italy. Cause you've been all in. Yeah. You feel that grease?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
That means. That means that's a block of cheese right there. It's been aging for years and years. See if you can see this all up in that. And you know it's legit when it's got this, you know, the little roll. Parmesan So I didn't bring the tools today. I brought. But we'll have to crack it open sometime.
Will Compton
So.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. This. This right here, though, the Inside. The heart of the cheese, that's what kings and queens used to eat in the. In the. In the 1800s, being.
Taylor Lewan
Being a Packers legend. Is this something that just sits in your basement, or did you have to go and buy this yourself?
Clay Matthews
I went out, got this especially for you.
Will Compton
Where did you get that?
Clay Matthews
Happy birthday to you because you're all in. This is. This is, you know, my way. Former Packer being all in. Thought you'd love something like this.
Will Compton
Thank you.
Clay Matthews
Break it open.
Will Compton
That's crazy.
Clay Matthews
I didn't forget about you guys, too. Just little small.
Taylor Lewan
Let's get into something.
Clay Matthews
I just. I got. Let's pass these down. Just some cheese curds.
Taylor Lewan
Just some cheese curds.
Clay Matthews
Delaney, I don't know if you're lactose intolerant or not, but I know this. Hey, Parmigiano. Reggiano. No lactose. No lactose.
Will Compton
Where did you get that from? They usually don't like selling those.
Taylor Lewan
They got them boys just chilling there.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
No, this is from Italy, I'm telling you.
Taylor Lewan
From Italy. Imported.
Clay Matthews
It's expensive.
Taylor Lewan
I hear the tariffs.
Clay Matthews
Well, I'm telling you all. You know, when they watch the show.
Taylor Lewan
Especially when it comes to cheese.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Clay's got it. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
I asked my wife. I said. She's like, yeah, bring some home. So I'm gonna need. At least.
Delaney Walker
It's got a good smell to it.
Taylor Lewan
A quarter.
Clay Matthews
Wait till we cut it open.
Will Compton
I thought you don't. I just thought you'd take the top off so you can mix the pasta in there.
Clay Matthews
Oh, brother, you can. I mean, you can use this. Just eating it raw with, you know, nice fruits and jams and preserves.
Taylor Lewan
I'm not.
Will Compton
I'm not that.
Taylor Lewan
You know who loves charcuterie boards more? Common left Shakuri board. That's a great starter pack for Shakuri board for the next 16 years of his life.
Delaney Walker
That's a good board at a party.
Will Compton
Not if it's been sitting there all day.
Delaney Walker
No, that's the one.
Taylor Lewan
They're literally dried meats and cheeses, buddy. Like, they're good for the day.
Will Compton
I mean, a lot of people done coughed and touched over flies usually.
Clay Matthews
I have seen that.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Vomit every time they land on the ground.
Will Compton
I know.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
I know that.
Delaney Walker
My fingerprints on all the food.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, like, before we get into, like, you brought up, like, germs and stuff. What's your Stance on double dipping.
Will Compton
Oh, I don't do it. You don't do it? Yeah, I'm not. If you double dip.
Delaney Walker
If we're sitting there and you see Taylor double dip, what's happening in your brain or what are you doing?
Will Compton
It's his. That sauce is his for now. Like, that's.
Delaney Walker
But are you saying anything or are you just like.
Will Compton
I'm like dog. That's like not washing your hands after you take a number two. Like, it's disrespectful.
Delaney Walker
Oh, you see this Disrespectful.
Taylor Lewan
First off, never want to disrespect you would never try to disrespect you.
Will Compton
It's like disrespectful. It's like you taking.
Taylor Lewan
But I do double dip.
Will Compton
It's like you taking it. Number two, coming out the bathroom before.
Clay Matthews
Like, you don't mind if somebody else double dips.
Will Compton
I don't mind.
Clay Matthews
What if they, like, nose is running, they got a cough?
Delaney Walker
Well, then I might like, think like.
Clay Matthews
All right, so maybe we should just be blanket statement. No double dip.
Will Compton
Oh, you true.
Delaney Walker
I think it can be situations sometimes.
Clay Matthews
Symptoms don't show themselves.
Will Compton
I'm sure.
Taylor Lewan
Sit over there. Just take a nice little toosie walk out. D. Good to see you.
Will Compton
I know it happened. Of course. I'm like you probably.
Clay Matthews
What's your stance on washing hands in a public restroom? Whether it's a number one. Number two, I think it's disgusting. Public restrooms. I won't. I'll wait till I get in the car. I got my little anti baccalaureate.
Will Compton
You ain't washing your hands.
Clay Matthews
I got antibacterial soap in the car, so I don't wash them if, like, I'm going to a public bathroom. But I'm also. I grab the paper out of the thing. I touch the doorknob with it, you know, throw it away. So. And I listen.
Delaney Walker
Oh, you want me.
Clay Matthews
I know what I got. I'm clean. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about you. You need to wash your hands afterwards. I think that speaks volumes.
Taylor Lewan
I lived in Compton for four years.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
I'm more bubble boy over here.
Will Compton
Yeah. I'm weir weird about the hand washing.
Taylor Lewan
I am with you. I. I wash my hands in the bathroom in public because I have this, like. I'm always like grabbing my mustache.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
And these fingers being so close to his mouth. That's how you get worms. Can't have it.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Having kids, I realize it's very easy to get worms.
Will Compton
Yeah. What is Worms.
Clay Matthews
What type of worms?
Taylor Lewan
Pin worms.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Earthworms.
Clay Matthews
I've never had your kids have loved.
Will Compton
What was that? Hand, Foot, mouth.
Clay Matthews
Now, that's. That's real contagious.
Will Compton
No, that's what I'm saying.
Taylor Lewan
Like, the cheese, gone.
Delaney Walker
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Taylor Lewan
Form Energy derived from real green tea. I love that.
Will Compton
It used to be cats all the time that use the bathroom.
Clay Matthews
To America's Dairyland. Okay.
Will Compton
Can I actually come out the bathroom and be like. I'm like, damn, you didn't wash your hands. They'd be like, oh, no. I was gonna use the hand sanitizer.
Clay Matthews
See? They're lying.
Will Compton
I'm like, what? See?
Clay Matthews
But I got it in all the cars, though.
Will Compton
You'd rather use the hand sanitizer than you wash your hands? The hand sanitizer is just like a film. You ain't really cleaning your hands.
Taylor Lewan
99.9% of bacteria.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Soap is for getting, like, dirt and grime and whatnot. But the 99.9, the alcohol is what kills the germ. So what's, you know, like, what's more important to kill germs?
Will Compton
Can you wash your hands and put the hand sanitizer.
Clay Matthews
You can.
Taylor Lewan
Both of you guys are from California?
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Why you say that?
Taylor Lewan
Just germs, all that thing.
Will Compton
Hey, that's weird.
Taylor Lewan
It's okay to dirty yourself off a little bit. How about miss your fingernails?
Clay Matthews
I just cut them this morning.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Yes. You're cute.
Clay Matthews
Well, I've seen you on a tractor before. Going 20ft down. Your driveway. Thing looks brand new.
Taylor Lewan
So you see me work?
Clay Matthews
Got five hours on it, and you've had it for four years.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Probably a Kubota endorsement.
Taylor Lewan
Jealousy is not a good look for you. Yeah, but this works.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. I do kind of want a tractor model.
Taylor Lewan
Get you one. You got the land for it.
Clay Matthews
I do, I do.
Delaney Walker
You said no.
Will Compton
You was about to ask me something. You was like, yo, what? And then Taylor.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Barry's. Caleb Williams.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
They look good, right?
Delaney Walker
They're gelling.
Clay Matthews
Hey, their first drive, though.
Taylor Lewan
Always.
Clay Matthews
They did look good.
Will Compton
They look good. Look, look, look. Long story, guys. I'm gonna just tell y' all what happened. I was frustrated. I pulled out the Tommy gun, let it off in the front. Cause I'm like, dude, I said all this shit in this climate, this fool done posted hyperbole.
Clay Matthews
Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, huh?
Delaney Walker
I did hyperbole.
Taylor Lewan
If I hadn't shot a gun off. Cause you were that, man.
Will Compton
I was hot because I already knew what was about to happen. I already knew what was about to happen. I went in, he said, this man.
Delaney Walker
Done posting me on the Internet.
Will Compton
This fool chopped up. Just a bear segment. Just me. Yeah, Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, Delaney, like, you got to know, like, when you have that type of take, that's going to come back to you.
Will Compton
I mean, I get it. And I thought they was going to hold me down.
Taylor Lewan
And literally your record's five and one, but you were going Vikings until you gave a stat about how good the Vikings are. And it made. You know you're just throwing darts at the wall. You said, Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson have a good chemistry.
Will Compton
I never said they had a good chemistry. I said the team was playing good.
Delaney Walker
I think you did say Caleb off.
Will Compton
Like, he said something about Ben Johnson. Caleb, I said, that may not be true the way they played, but deep down, I just can't fuck with Caleb right now. Like, I'm a shot. And like, dog, I was riding with you. Now I was riding with you, but now I ain't with you.
Taylor Lewan
So.
Will Compton
Bears are 02 02.
Taylor Lewan
You have a 12.5 chance of making the playoffs. So it's very. They're. It's very likely that they're not going to make the playoffs this year. In the.
Will Compton
Are you gonna say that about the Chiefs?
Taylor Lewan
Hold on. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Hold on. If we're big on, like, college football. You did a bet on college football. Michigan, Nebraska, playing this week. A bet for you. If the Bears make the playoffs, Would.
Will Compton
You paint your fingernails if they make the playoffs?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Like Caleb.
Taylor Lewan
Like Caleb?
Will Compton
Yeah, of course.
Taylor Lewan
Can they say Caleb on him?
Will Compton
No, no, they cannot say Caleb.
Delaney Walker
Come on, do that.
Taylor Lewan
No, Daddy bear.
Will Compton
No. Why would I put suspect as it goes? The painting of the fingernails is a lot for me.
Taylor Lewan
I wouldn't put it past you the way, I mean, when I played with you, like you like to.
Will Compton
I never got aggressive with your.
Delaney Walker
I could say I never got it. You went on, you swag it out.
Taylor Lewan
You took a over between.
Will Compton
I never tried it out. You got me twisted between OTAs.
Taylor Lewan
One year you left and came back for camp and you go, I went to Israel. Hebrew, Israelite, now. Yeah, like you'll make this.
Will Compton
What does that have to be?
Clay Matthews
I'm just saying, like, I wouldn't put.
Taylor Lewan
It against you to paint your fingernails. I don't think it's.
Will Compton
No, no. I mean, my daughter's painted them and my daughter's painting them. I'm a rocket, like, straight up. If my daughter paint them, I'm rocking them.
Clay Matthews
So have your daughter paint them. If the Bears.
Will Compton
Yeah. Yeah. If the Bears go to the playoffs, I'll have my daughter paint my nails.
Taylor Lewan
We'll get into the Chiefs, by the way, because we have them on the slip today, but we have right now, straight up. NFC west showdown, Cardinals 2 0. Niners 2 0.
Delaney Walker
Talk about seeing the board.
Taylor Lewan
What's that?
Delaney Walker
Preseason. What was Delaney talking about?
Will Compton
Who was going to be playing Mac Jones.
Taylor Lewan
His boy.
Will Compton
Called the round.
Delaney Walker
That shadow would be high, too.
Clay Matthews
I know.
Taylor Lewan
Against a powerhouse of the NFC south, the Saints.
Will Compton
They not the powerhouse, Rattler. They not the powerhouse right now. They. They used to be, though. Yeah, they used to be.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Yeah, they used to be.
Taylor Lewan
So who you got? Yeah.
Delaney Walker
How you feeling? How you feel about Mac Jones and the 49ers? 49ers favored by one.
Will Compton
I'm let y' all go. I'm gonna let y' all go first because it may change my opinion, but go, y' all go ahead.
Taylor Lewan
That is. Is wild. I like the 49ers in this game. I know we're missing George Kittle right now, but you break down the film of the 49ers versus the saints, the offensive line, no one runs a better zone scheme than that offensive line. Kyle Shanahan understands manipulation of games, the way he runs the outside zone. And then all of a sudden, he'll do a right down the middle. He's got blockers that'll go and block for him all day long. Juwan Jennings got the shoulder, but he's still playing cmc, still doing his thing. And then, like, the thing I love is Robert Sala and his ability to get 11 guys on defense to play as hard and as fast as they do. Because for the most part, you look at the 49ers defense, and it's like, oh, Fred Warner, I know who that is. Nick Bosa, I know who that is. And then it's a lot of like, oh, shit, who's that guy? Oh, who's that guy? But it's really just dudes flying around the ball. Cardinals, I mean, they haven't had more than 300 yards of total offense in both their games. All three of their corners are out. And so when I just look at this, at being at the 49ers, I just see them starting the season three, and, oh, that's how I feel.
Will Compton
No, I feel you. I like your opinion.
Delaney Walker
I'm rocking the 49ers.
Taylor Lewan
I like your opinion.
Delaney Walker
You had, you know, all the good points right there. To me, it's like Cardinals are an overhyped 2 0, beating the Saints and the Panthers by just a few points in each game. I like Rob Sala. I love how he has the defense flying around right now. It is. It sucks that, you know, Mac Jones, he did step up and he's. He played an incredible game with Brock Purdy out. Hopefully he can keep that up.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Leaning on cmc. Last I saw CMC was on the injured. The injury report.
Will Compton
Okay.
Delaney Walker
I thought so too. I saw the queue next to his name. I didn't dive into it too much. Yeah, I like the Niners though. I like the Niners at home and it's one and a half. I'm taking the Niners.
Clay Matthews
Does the Cardinals sweeping the 49ers last year have any.
Will Compton
Yeah, they both times beat them both.
Clay Matthews
One way or the other.
Taylor Lewan
And what if they're secondary bad was in such bad shape because like I kind of like Kyler Murray. Like other than the one horrendous play he had against the Panthers like that. He's playing good ball and he's so shifty.
Delaney Walker
And you got McBride, what? Marvin Harrison Jr. James Connor, still Harris.
Taylor Lewan
Johnson Jr. Harris Johnson for the show.
Will Compton
But I mean the offense is stacked.
Clay Matthews
So I got 49ers. I got 49ers. I think like you said, they're secondary. You got three guys out. Mac Jones aired it 39 times for a career high. Like, I think Shannon, they could lean on him. Leaned on. Yeah, the quarterback whisper.
Taylor Lewan
You know, they come out of that game where they start the game against the the Saints like they threw the ball three times a row. They go three and out.
Clay Matthews
Right.
Taylor Lewan
But it shows. Shanahan's like, oh, we got a guy that can go and facilitate the ball the way we want. Like we can still play the same offense that we want to. Similar to like a Jaden Daniels if he's out. Marcus Mayer going in.
Delaney Walker
Oh, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
It's like bang, bang, offense is still the same.
Will Compton
Yeah, bang, bang off.
Taylor Lewan
It's still the same.
Delaney Walker
We're gonna lose this game.
Taylor Lewan
Huh?
Delaney Walker
We're gonna lose this. We're all on the nine.
Taylor Lewan
I know and I look over.
Delaney Walker
We're all undoubtedly on the nine.
Taylor Lewan
Pump fisting Delaney. Cardinals.
Clay Matthews
Who you got?
Taylor Lewan
We're dead. We're done.
Clay Matthews
Who you got?
Will Compton
I got the Cardinals. I just wanted to hear everything you jokers had to say.
Taylor Lewan
Dude, I love so much for that.
Delaney Walker
I had to get the gun out last year.
Clay Matthews
I will say, hey, Cardinals defense though. Delaney haven't let up. Haven't given up 100 yard rush.
Will Compton
No.
Clay Matthews
Bringing in Josh Sweat had that huge play to start the game off.
Will Compton
K. Campbell, still balling.
Clay Matthews
Still doing it. At 38 years.
Taylor Lewan
Balling is a very.
Clay Matthews
He closed out the game.
Taylor Lewan
He closed out the game like cla Campbell. You have to give a lot of respect to him.
Will Compton
He's 14 year bet.
Taylor Lewan
Yes.
Will Compton
Four. Damn near push.
Clay Matthews
I think he's like 18, buddy.
Taylor Lewan
He was like seven years in league when I got.
Will Compton
That's what I'm saying.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, I play.
Clay Matthews
We just lose count at this point.
Will Compton
Yeah, me too.
Taylor Lewan
A minute.
Will Compton
A minute. I played when he was in.
Taylor Lewan
Never got sacked.
Will Compton
Back in Arizona. Back in Arizona. But look like he said, they allow 78 rushing yards per game with a 3.8 yard per carry. I mean that defense right now, they going to shut that run down. Yes, they do have banged up back a backfield, but if they can get to him before he throw the ball, it's going to be a tough game for them. And like you said, Kyle Murray's been exciting. Just running all over the field. He looked like a little, little person running around. Watch what I say.
Taylor Lewan
You're on. Cancel Speedy Gonzalez.
Will Compton
He likes Speedy Gonzalez. The way his legs be moving. He holding the ball like all crazy. But he exciting. I love.
Taylor Lewan
He looks like a bobblehead on the move.
Delaney Walker
He do look like a bobblehead.
Will Compton
His head is huge. But I'm taking, I'm taking Cardinals plus one and a half. I, you know, I'm not gonna say. Yeah, I'm taking.
Taylor Lewan
I'm taking the Cardinals.
Will Compton
I'm leave it there. I ain't gonna second guess myself.
Taylor Lewan
Good. Don't. Yeah, all of us were on the 49.
Will Compton
No, I wasn't. I was. I wanted to, I wanted to move the line. But I know how you guys are about me moving the line.
Taylor Lewan
If you want to move. If you want to favorite and make them more favorites, then go ahead.
Will Compton
No, I was gonna take the money line.
Delaney Walker
No, it's only one and a half.
Taylor Lewan
It's like five and a half. Six and a half.
Delaney Walker
He wanted to go the other way.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, there you go saying guessing yourself. We're just not gonna let you do that.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I got the Cardinals plus 12 and a half this week.
Taylor Lewan
Same put me on that as well. I'll take the Cardinals plus 12 and a half.
Will Compton
I'm all about winning, guys.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, you're about winning. Yeah. Pennies on the dollar. You're like the Canadian currency out there, dude. Next game, Bengals at Vikings. The battle of the backups. Vikings are favored at minus three total points in that game is 42 and a half points.
Clay Matthews
Who picked this game?
Taylor Lewan
Who picked it?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, who picked this game?
Will Compton
Two injured quarterbacks, Jeremy Clump.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, did you get Carson Wentz Browning going at it? Jake Browning's 4 and 3 as a starter. He was pressured seven out of eight times. He went 7 for 8, 152 yards.
Delaney Walker
Like some exciting stuff.
Clay Matthews
I'm going to mark Chase did go off their connection.
Taylor Lewan
You know, Chase T. Higgins, I want.
Delaney Walker
To say Trey Hendrickson, too, has, like, it leads the league in pressures.
Taylor Lewan
He's fourth in the league in pressures.
Delaney Walker
Fourth in the league in pressures.
Taylor Lewan
He's 4th in the league in pressures. And hey, go ahead. Big reason I picked this game is all of you in your careers have had backup quarterbacks, have to play games for you. Oh, that's a good point.
Will Compton
That's smart.
Taylor Lewan
Point. Can I be honest about how I felt when we had a backup quarterback? I was so delusional. I thought we were going to win every single game. Oh, unless.
Will Compton
I never thought we would.
Clay Matthews
I know you guys are thinking, we had Seneca Wallace come in at one point and then he, like, tore his groin off his bone. And after, like, when a rod went down, it was just like, oh, no, there goes our season. Like, Matt Flynn balled out early in my career. He got a big contract off what he was able to do in, I think, 2011. The last game we were 14 and 1, and he came in through for like six touchdowns, 500 yards. He got a. That was when he went up to Seattle or. Excuse me, that's when he got the contract from Seattle. And then they brought in Russell and Russell ended up starting over him the very next year. But after that, it was tough. It was tough sledding.
Will Compton
Yeah. Ron, I never thought we would lose in San Francisco. We had Alex Smith and then Kaepernick. So it was just like either one, we was going to win the game with those two dudes.
Taylor Lewan
You guys were top to bottom. Such a great team.
Will Compton
Yeah, we had backups. That's what I'm saying. We have backups on backups, on backups.
Taylor Lewan
I've never been on a team where we had a Delaney as a backup.
Will Compton
Yeah, I know.
Clay Matthews
It's such an important position, too. I.
Taylor Lewan
My fault.
Delaney Walker
I know.
Will Compton
I've been there. Yeah, I was there.
Clay Matthews
It's such a position.
Delaney Walker
I was gonna say Johnny was nice.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, but Johnny, look, he started over you towards the end there.
Will Compton
No, he did not start over. My ankle was, bro. I broke my ankle.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, but you could See, you can see it in camp, like, oh, they're starting to favor this young cat you.
Delaney Walker
Can see in camp because he was never out there. He's in the training room hanging out. Coach gave me another off day.
Taylor Lewan
When Delaney broke his ankle the next season, it was like, we go to walkthroughs, and he'd bring a stool out and sit there behind the line of scrimmage. Nah, Dawn, I'm a game.
Clay Matthews
I'm a ball out on something.
Taylor Lewan
You don't even worry about this. Y' all go ahead and do this dumb shit. I know I block.
Will Compton
They'll come over like, what you got, D? I'm like, post. Ah, you like? Yeah, I know you. I know you on top of. I'm over there telling jokes. These motherfuckers.
Taylor Lewan
He come.
Will Compton
I see him walk up, watch out, he coming. What you got on that plate? Our cutoff.
Taylor Lewan
Oh, yeah?
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
He paying attention? You damn right.
Taylor Lewan
He also had, like, the easiest coaches.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah. The easiest coach.
Delaney Walker
I'm curious if the. If the Vikings feel like, you know, if you might lose a starting quarterback who. You don't know if it's like, the guy yet. J.J. mcCarthy had an incredible fourth quarter on week one. Didn't play very well in week two. It's like, when he goes down, Carson goes in like. I wonder if the. The locker room feels excited about Carson getting a shot because, you know, the Bengals do like the Bengals. It sounds like the situation with the team or with, like, the Niners and stuff to where Browning goes in. He's been proven that he can step in for Joey B. And play at a high level. I wonder if it's the same for Carson Wentz.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I think Carson Wentz is more prepared to run that offense. And this is only going off. I know he started, what, one game, the last game for the Chiefs last year, but I think he's more prepared to run the vikings offense than J.J. was.
Will Compton
Yeah, me too.
Clay Matthews
I don't think there's anything controversial about that. I just think J.J. maybe he does sit for the next three. I think they go on the go overseas for the next two games after this. Like, let Carson run the show. They have a whole week to prepare. It's not like they're throwing Carson in in the middle of a game. Like, I think o' Connell is going to game plan for this. And I see the Vikings beating the Bengals. I see Browning did play well last year. He did play well, but he also turned the ball over three times. So if they can limit those, the Bengals limit those turnovers, then I think they got a chance. But I, I just don't see it happening. Especially just, you know, a little stat. Delaney, I know you like them, I like them too. But last six seasons, pass protection, eff or ranking? Excuse me, 29th, 30th, 30th, 27th, 32nd and 28th are the Bengals. They can't protect their quarterback. There's going to be pressure on them. You got a backup coming in. He's going to turn the ball over.
Delaney Walker
Is it Van Ginkel? Is he coming back this week?
Clay Matthews
He's still got a.
Taylor Lewan
Rumors are swirling.
Delaney Walker
Rumors are swirling.
Taylor Lewan
Rumors are swirling.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
The thing that makes me nervous about this is the vikings, they blitz 38.9% of the time on drop back passes. And Jake Browning has proven he's really good against blitzes. That, that worries me. Vikings are also 30th in the league when it comes to giving up pass yards. And you have massive weapons on the outside for you in the perimeter. I think Joe, if I'm Joe Burrow, I might be getting a lawyer right now because he's probably the only quarterback that can go and sue his team for not protecting him over the last four years and win that battle. But like, the Bengals are looking at their quarterback being like, he's done it. We've seen him do it. He went 4 and 3 as a starter for us. We can be successful. The Vikings are probably thinking the same thing, but I like the Bengals.
Will Compton
And the scout, is Jaden gonna play? Is he off his suspension? Was it two game suspension? Three.
Clay Matthews
Oh, Addison.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah. Three. Never mind three games. You got one more.
Clay Matthews
Jordan. Jordan.
Will Compton
Addison.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
What'd you call him? Jameis.
Clay Matthews
Jalen.
Will Compton
Jalen. I don't know what you just got.
Clay Matthews
Jalen.
Will Compton
Addison.
Clay Matthews
Addison.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, but I'll take the, I'll take the Bengals.
Delaney Walker
I like the Vikings. I like the Vikings at home.
Taylor Lewan
You like the defense?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I like the defense. And again, it's like JJ's. I mean, he's young. This is essentially his rookie year, being injured all, all last year.
Taylor Lewan
They're still.
Delaney Walker
You look at, you look at Danny Dimes too, in Indianapolis. The, the, the, the moment he had a couple weeks ago where he's talking about the preparation of o'.
Taylor Lewan
Connell.
Delaney Walker
He feels like he got better with the short stint with the Vikings. Like, I just believe in o'. Connell. Coach Phillips, that offensive, the way they prepare, the way they game plan and everything else, I think they'll have a solid plan against the Bengals. And Bengals are very Questionable defensively outside of pass rush moments from Trey Hendrickson.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah. I'm going to take the under.
Taylor Lewan
They're getting better in the turnover margin.
Will Compton
They did.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
I'm gonna do. I'm take the under 42 and a half.
Taylor Lewan
Well, pick a team, too, just for the sake of the show.
Delaney Walker
That's his pick, though. It's a gambling show. He likes the under.
Taylor Lewan
Okay, that's great. I also like, if you were to pick a team, we don't have to.
Will Compton
Put you like, the under.
Delaney Walker
You love the under.
Will Compton
I love the under.
Delaney Walker
What do you like?
Will Compton
I would definitely take the Vikings if I had to take the Vikings because Carson Wentz is just proven quarterback.
Taylor Lewan
Perfect quarterback.
Will Compton
Lots of times we all get cut.
Taylor Lewan
How many times?
Delaney Walker
Not me. I walked away.
Clay Matthews
I got cut.
Will Compton
You lying like a motherfucker.
Delaney Walker
I tried to play. I was banging on the door. They wouldn't let me in. I was gambling.
Will Compton
That means they don't want you.
Delaney Walker
No, but I didn't get cut. I was going in to get signed, and then it's like, all right, but.
Will Compton
How did you get off a team?
Clay Matthews
Contract ran out.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, contract ran out.
Clay Matthews
You went out on your terms?
Delaney Walker
Went out on my terms. They was trying to sign me in the off season, too. Teams was trying to sign me in the off season, too. They were like, nah, we got something special going on. Busting with the boys.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, you did win that battle, though. It kind of worked out for you. You showed the NFL who's who in the zoo.
Delaney Walker
Take that minimum contract and shove it up your asses, boys. I'm gonna stay.
Taylor Lewan
Look at these rookies. Not as bad. Paid off when I was scratching and clawing.
Delaney Walker
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Taylor Lewan
Commanders are favorite -3 1/2. Raiders just lost to the Chargers. Commanders just lost the Packers. What gives? What happens here? Austin Eckler, Torn Achilles.
Clay Matthews
Oh, hate that.
Taylor Lewan
You see it on his face. Yeah, when you when it happens, it's heartbreaking. Is Jaden Daniels gonna play? If he doesn't play, are we going to be okay because Marcus Mariota like that and then when he came in the game he balled out. Geno Smith looks good. Ashton Denty doesn't look so hot right now. Does he figure it out this week he gets a defense that was suspect last year in the rush. All questions that'll be answered by Will Compton right now.
Delaney Walker
I think this is big. It's a big win by the Commanders. I think they got punched in the mouse last week against the best team in football. Good team obviously. Packers are up there. You got the Bills, you got the Eagles, but they Got hit in the mouth last week against the Packers. Their run defense has improved tremendously since last year. They have some pass rush. To me, it's like even if Jaden Daniels doesn't go, I love Marcus Mariota in this situation. You see him when he came in last year. He played very well in the Raiders defense. Like when I was watching when I was trying to catch up on the Monday night Football games the next day by watching see how Herbert was dialing it up. The pressure, the pass rush that the Raiders had. And I'm sitting there watching the film in the back seven looks brutal for the Raiders guys. You know, two guys shitting in the same coke cane, standing next to each other in zone areas, guys not picking up crossers, guys just. It honestly does not look good. I love the Commanders in this game and I love them big too. But I'll take a minus minus three and a half. I just think the commanders that again, you go to Green Bay, you get hit in the mouth. I love Dan Quinn. You've heard about his cult. You hear about his culture all the time. I think they're going to be ready to go there and they're going to love like playing at home, hosting the Raiders. Raiders got to travel. Raiders lost a tough one. Geno Smith and that and that Chip Kelly offense, they can't do it all. O line has struggled big time. Pass protection struggled. Ash and Genti with picking up pass protection. They can't get a run game going with him. And I think I was about to say the Redskins, the Commanders are built. They're not going to get better against the Commanders in that defense.
Will Compton
No.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
Is Brock Bowers going to play this game?
Clay Matthews
He came out all right, I think the last game, but he was a little hobbled.
Taylor Lewan
Brock Bowers, unless it's out of the skin, he's going to play. Friend of the show. Seen his mentality. They asked what would you do anything for? He said stick.
Will Compton
No, that's. That's what I'm like with him. When he's healthy and they got him, he makes all the plays on there. We know that for a fact. He helps the Raiders make plays. If he's not healthy, it's going to be tough for the Raiders to even be successful on offense. He's the key player.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. I think if you want to be successful as a Raiders, you have to be able to run the ball and protect on third down. Like those are two keys that you can never run.
Will Compton
You're not going to be able to do that.
Taylor Lewan
And Both those right now are not like the offensive line has to do a better job in blocking. But Ashton Genti, you watch the film, he's missing a couple holes here and there. And then if you are the commanders on a third and six plus you are in a great position because you have four guys rushing the passer. And then you take a guy like Frankie Louvre who you can put down in a three point stance, you just drop him back. That they did with Derwin James. When the Chargers are playing the Raiders find the man's side, exploit the back. Because you ask Nugenti hasn't proved that he can be. He can protect in pass protection yet. They ran a lot of great games where you have four offensive linemen sliding one way and keeping the right tackle one on one. And then you take Frankie Louvre or Durham James situation, you pick him and then Genti's got to pick up that end. That's pressure all day. That's something that you look at. It's like how do they handle that situation? You have to have a back that's able to step in protection. You can't slide auris and Ls the whole time. Yeah. So when you get in third downs, which you're going to get in a football game. I love commanders over Raiders in this. I think, I think Geno Smith slept on but I like the commanders as well. Three and a half.
Clay Matthews
Do we feel like. Because when we watched that game last night or whenever it was Monday night, Chargers, Raiders, it felt like the Chargers were winning by a pretty good margin. But the score was closer than it was until Herbert hit that, you know, 60 yard bomb. So my question is, are the Raiders closer to being a better team than what was put on, put out there? Because I'm having a hard time. I think I'm gonna go with the commanders. I wanted y' all to speak first but man, they looked uninspired on Thursday and that was before Jaden supposedly hurt his knee. So I don't know if like the packers are just that good on defense or if they just had their number or what. You know, I just feel like the Raiders, they played at least the game looked closer to me than the Chiefs did against the Chargers in week one. So I think the Raiders are closer than what they put out there. I mean obviously what Geno throwing three picks couple just, just, he just threw away balls there. I, I think it's closer but man, I got the commanders too. But I just, I don't feel real confident about that pick. But I like if Marcus Mariota goes in there just to pick, get him on the edge a little bit. Because if Jaden can't run. Yeah, you lose. You know, that dynamic ability. That's what you saw last year. Well, that's what you saw last on. On Thursdays. He ran for like 17 yards or something. And I'm. I'm waiting for him to get on the outside, you know, keep the packers on us. And he just. I mean, between the pass rush and that zone, defensive packers were playing like he just couldn't get a pass off in their db. So I don't know. I think if he loses that ability if he plays this week, Jaden Daniels doesn't have the ability to run.
Will Compton
Like, I feel like Marcus is going to have a package, though. I think they know his mobility is low.
Taylor Lewan
So Marcus.
Will Compton
No Jaden. So we're going to see probably two. Two back two quarterbacks. See Marcus come in for the rollout plays, getting that momentum going. I don't know Marcus, even if they.
Taylor Lewan
Had that game plan, I'll take the Raiders in that sense, because if you have. Yeah, the whole phrase is like, if you have two quarterbacks, you actually have enough quarterback. Yeah. Like, you need one guy to be in there. He's got to feel the game. He's got to. Even if it's just a handoff. Being in the rhythm of a game, I feel like is so important for quarterbacks. Then just having a guy out there for cold plays, switching in and out, it just makes it so choppy when it comes to how smooth and crisp you can make a game plan go.
Will Compton
I just feel like Jaden don't want to sit out, even though he's hurt. Like, even in the past time when Marcus was playing, he did not want to sit out, but he had to. He said it like, I wish I was.
Taylor Lewan
He's a competitor.
Will Compton
Yeah, he's a competitor. Oh, no. I got the commanders.
Clay Matthews
Give me the commanders.
Taylor Lewan
We're all on commanders, commanders across the board. I don't like it.
Delaney Walker
I hate that, too. But if we get to sit and we were watching. We were watching this underneath coverage in their depth and zone drops everything. Even on. Even on. Even on quick steps. Guys are getting, like, full depth. Like, it's. It's not. It's not pretty.
Will Compton
No.
Clay Matthews
I think the Raiders are going to be okay. I think they're going to be okay. They're just behind where, you know, like, you saw Harbaugh with the Chargers last year. Now he has a generational talent in Herbert, whereas you bring in Geno Smith. But like I, I think they'll be okay, but I don't. I think they dropped this one this week.
Will Compton
The Raiders first contact, when they rush the ball, when Ashton's running the ball, they average the first contact behind the line of scrimmage. Because he don't.
Delaney Walker
Right.
Will Compton
He just runs into the person.
Taylor Lewan
His eyes, his eyes are a little big right now. You can tell he's, he's. It's a different animal when you go from college to NFL, of course. And a lot of guys get it, pick it up right away like Will Compton did. And a lot of guys, it takes a couple of years.
Will Compton
Well, he, you know, he said it. I like contact. They literally was like, yo, why like you getting hit? He like, well I like.
Clay Matthews
I like that first run. I was hitting the safety in the hole.
Will Compton
Truck though.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, trucked his ass.
Clay Matthews
But yo, that spin move in the flat too sometimes.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. This is going to be a fun year for backup quarterbacks. Might be the year of the backup quarterback. Mac Jones. Sam. Sam Arnold goes from Minnesota now. He's in Seattle. Seattle, yeah. Jones is back. Everyone's kind of resurrecting the career. Baker Mayfield might be my favorite.
Will Compton
Sometimes you just got to go to a different organization because it may be that offensive coordinator who's holding you down.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, who says. Who says Marcus doesn't have a big comeback? Who says Marcus isn't a championship level quarterback? Generational talent. When he was coming out, he was.
Will Compton
He was, you know, he got got. He got beat the up at the Titans. Yeah, beat the upper.
Taylor Lewan
Well, you never say it like that, but yeah.
Clay Matthews
Is that because they're old line or what?
Taylor Lewan
Just his first two. Yeah.
Will Compton
I mean it was. It would be from the left tackle play, but definitely he took some hits.
Clay Matthews
Who was the stud? Roos.
Will Compton
But they played with Marcus. Yeah. Brad Hopkins.
Taylor Lewan
29 years the Titans had three tackles.
Clay Matthews
Left tackles, stellar tackle plays. What you're saying?
Delaney Walker
I like the packers with their quarterback.
Clay Matthews
There you go, there you go.
Will Compton
Hey, yeah, you're right.
Delaney Walker
Packers for life, man.
Will Compton
Eagles, bro.
Clay Matthews
I got you a block of cheese. The state of Wisconsin's behind you, Will.
Delaney Walker
Rams and Eagles.
Clay Matthews
Who we behind?
Delaney Walker
Eagles favored by three and a half. Over under on this game is 44 and a half. I don't know.
Clay Matthews
This is two elite teams right here. This is a 12 o' clock game too. What are we doing here? I don't want it to get mixed.
Taylor Lewan
Too early for the fleck. I think people were sleeping on the Rams this year and everyone's like Eagles Will just pummel Stafford looks good.
Clay Matthews
He's starting to find devonte Puka continuing to be Puka out there. Their defense looking phenomenal. Just littered in the top 10 boards on offense. Defense looking like a better team than.
Will Compton
The Eagles looking till they play.
Clay Matthews
Until they play the Eagles. I think they both have a tremendous pass rush. Rams defense, number one, scoring defense. Like, I think this is gonna be a fun game. But went back looked at those two games last year in which they played the Rams. You know who went off? Saquon had over 200 yards rushing in both of them. Four touchdowns, all of them for over 60 yards. I think it's gonna come down to explosive plays, but I got the Eagles. Like, it was kind of like how I bet the Chiefs last year until somebody knocks you off. Proved to me that's the way I. That the other team is better. And they're going to the link. They're going to the link. And I just. I think it comes down to explosive plays if the Rams can stop the run. And the Eagles haven't looked as good as where they finished last year. And the Rams were the only team to give them a test in the playoffs before, you know, they beat the Commanders and the Chiefs. So I like the Eagles. I think it's going to be close, but I think it comes down to explosive plays. Really.
Will Compton
The Rams are 9 and 2 in.
Clay Matthews
Their last 11 games.
Will Compton
Only two losses. I'm definitely going for the Eagles.
Clay Matthews
The Rams are 9 and 2 in.
Will Compton
Their last 11 games, including postseason. Their only two losses have both been to the Eagles. I'm going with the Eagles now. Thanks for that stat.
Delaney Walker
Give me the Rams with the points.
Taylor Lewan
I like the Rams with the points as well.
Clay Matthews
What are the points again? I got it right.
Delaney Walker
Three and a half.
Taylor Lewan
Three and a half. Dude.
Delaney Walker
Feel more or less.
Taylor Lewan
You talk about that pass rush that the Eagles have. Like, you know who else has a good pass rush is the Houston Texas Texans on both sides. Maybe probably a better one. No one does a better job of getting the ball out more accurately than Stafford with somebody in his face. And also you look at the defense that has studs everywhere for the Eagles, but it's who's across from Mitchell that's the person that's going to get exploited all day. And the Rams have the weapons to do that because they got Devonte Adams and they got Puka Nukua. Like, you can't double both of them. You've got to give help somewhere. And I think Stafford is a guy that. That can get the ball out in the perfect amount of time. He can throw it accurately. Deep, intermediate, short. Like he's a guy that you just. You never question. I thought Blake Corn looked kind of nice last week.
Delaney Walker
He did, bro.
Taylor Lewan
I understand they were in a tough position.
Delaney Walker
So you can see the Blake Quorum. You know why? They got him out of. Out of Michigan. Like you could. You could see it as he's running the football.
Taylor Lewan
He started. Yeah, I want to get Blake Corn the ball more. And they. They were very clear about that. That and want to get devonte Adams the ball. You could tell both those things. Shout out clump anytime. Touchdown, devonte Adams. But like Corum starting to find himself as a. As a rusher in this league. And that's going to only help Stafford getting the ball out. All those things. You need a good rushing attack. And then also head coach playing injured plantar fasciitis away inflammation on a plane. Getting into the link. Probably might be in a boot. Probably too tough for the boot. Players are going to see that. They're going to rally around it. I like the Rams with the points.
Will Compton
Literally got hurt standing on the sideline.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, a lot happens to a lot of guys. Remember the same Georgia, maybe.
Delaney Walker
Maybe he saw the highlight of Ray running outsideline. He tried to take it off.
Will Compton
Wait, what? Who?
Taylor Lewan
There was like a camera. I don't know if it was last year. Yeah. Kamara, like, gets hitting the sideline and this old guy who's like, got with that little yellow or orange penny on, like, picks up his leg and you see it's like, oh, yeah, it was broke.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
It's like a timeout. Yeah, his ass one there the next week. Sean McVeigh is Sean McVeigh.
Will Compton
He talking about a dog, a security guard.
Taylor Lewan
I'm talking like AARP there to protect.
Delaney Walker
He doesn't have insurance.
Will Compton
Smoking Newports every day.
Taylor Lewan
I'm just saying, Dude, Sean McVeigh being injured is a big deal in this game.
Will Compton
No, very. I'll give it that.
Taylor Lewan
It's a big deal in this game.
Clay Matthews
So Delaney and I got the Eagles. You two got the Rams.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I'll take the Rams. They're going to have Jalen Carter.
Will Compton
It'll be a good thing.
Delaney Walker
I'm taking the Rams.
Clay Matthews
How have they done running the ball this year, the Rams, in these two.
Will Compton
Games, they're not a big run team, though.
Taylor Lewan
But they are the fourth best in passing.
Will Compton
Yeah, they pass the ball a lot. I mean, Puka, they just. Just throw it to him. Let him just make something happen.
Taylor Lewan
The Rams are good against the run, though. They do relatively well against the run.
Will Compton
But what about the tush push last year?
Clay Matthews
They didn't, though.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, if it's third and one or two, like, you can assume that's gonna move.
Clay Matthews
Can we talk about the tush push again?
Delaney Walker
We need some laundry on the field with this T push.
Clay Matthews
I agree. So last year, I was. I thought it was, like, I think when the packers came out first, probably on behest of the league, you know, saying, hey, we don't want the tush push anymore. I thought that was, like, a cowardly thing just to get the play out. But after watching it, I'm like, I think I'm done with the tush push, man. Like, bro, I want to see them run. Like, just. Just admit what it is. You're too successful at the play. Like, nobody's going to get hurt. Nothing's going to happen. But it's too hard to officiate as well. Like, just get rid of it. Let Philadelphia feel good about themselves saying, oh, they. We. We ran this so well, we had to get rid of the play and just get back to what looks like normal football instead of a scrum, hoist.
Taylor Lewan
Lombardi trophies by getting like, hey, you did a really good job with that play. Like, if I'm the Eagles, I'm keeping that playing anyway.
Clay Matthews
That's why I'm saying, if you're the.
Delaney Walker
Bit of a play, we gotta get out.
Clay Matthews
I'm also saying, like, it's too hard to officiate. Like, I sound like I'm making excuses now. But also when it was third and one and fourth and one. Like, I remember Ray Lewis hitting Darren Sprouls when he was playing for the Ravens in the backfield on, like, a third or fourth and one to seal the game. I want to see that. I don't want to see a scrum to win the game. Chris Jones on the other side, you know, yelling at Hertz and whatnot. I'm just saying, like, shame on you.
Will Compton
That's the only team you gonna see do it, though, is the Eagles. The Eagles is the only team who really does it, who can do it.
Taylor Lewan
Everybody's trying to replicate it.
Will Compton
I know they can't do it.
Taylor Lewan
But the competitor. Yeah, like, everyone's going to think you're not going to stop it until one day somebody stops it.
Will Compton
You're right.
Taylor Lewan
One day they go, enough is enough, and they figure out the sauce that needs to happen to stop the toaster.
Clay Matthews
Stop jumping over then and only then stop it.
Taylor Lewan
You let it Walk away like that is it? And for you to sit here and say they're too good at it.
Clay Matthews
It's just. It's the purest in me. It's the purest in me. I'm sorry.
Taylor Lewan
Talking about purist is man versus man. The Gladiators, I agree, but.
Clay Matthews
But to say refs, if it's man versus man, that's different. But you include the refs who had a horrible weekend. Horrible weekend.
Taylor Lewan
When have they had a good weekend?
Clay Matthews
Talking about that pass interference against Travis Hunter, that rough in the passer, who was that against Carolina? Not against, against the Cardinals. Like just horrible calls up and down. But we can talk about that.
Will Compton
Get a hat that says make refereeing great again.
Taylor Lewan
When was it, bro?
Clay Matthews
When was it ever?
Will Compton
I'm assuming in the Delaney.
Taylor Lewan
We took a.
Will Compton
You got that?
Clay Matthews
Delaney? Would you ever be a referee? Would you ever be a referee if they paid you well? Of course. Here's what I think. Here's what I think. I'm talking a farm system for retired ex NFL players. You come in there, they give you a nice salary, you're full time, 401k, NFL will match it. You've seen the game, you understand the speed of the game, you understand the intent on roughing the passer and pass interference. You understand when there's a minute left, like I think we get some ex NFL players and I don't know what it is, maybe they need to play 3, 4, 5, whatever it may be. But you make them full time employees, give them big salaries, give them those 401ks, all those Pete Rosel's, everything we get, we don't know what it means. But you see the little indicator going up, going, yeah, I hope I live till see 65. I'm telling you, like that's what we need to have. And I think you get more people who are around the game rather than part time teachers, attorneys, whatnot, who understand the game.
Taylor Lewan
It has to be a full time job. For sure.
Will Compton
It's actually full time job.
Taylor Lewan
Yes, full time job has to be a full time job. It's actually ex NFL players.
Will Compton
No, no, it's actually ex NFL players going into officiating. That is actually.
Clay Matthews
Why do you say no though? There's nobody who understands.
Taylor Lewan
I look at the sample size, I'm sitting at this, this with Delaney. Could you imagine him sitting on the sideline being like, hey, that was good. And then someone got bro, No, I don't think so. He's like, yeah, you're probably right.
Will Compton
Yeah, no, never.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, that's a good point. And then, like, literally.
Clay Matthews
But.
Taylor Lewan
But just, hey, imagine this. Jurgens, Nebraska Corn Husker alumni, Will Compton sitting the back. He sees him yanking a boy in the corner. Will grabbing that.
Clay Matthews
No, Will's a man of the shields. He's a man.
Taylor Lewan
They go.
Clay Matthews
They're in the Super Bowl. No, fourth and one go.
Taylor Lewan
There's an obvious dpi, and you're like.
Clay Matthews
I gotta let it go. Gotta let it go.
Delaney Walker
The only games you can't trust me to officiate is the game.
Clay Matthews
Okay? Conflict of interest. They already have that in the NFL when they get referees who post on social media about their favorite team and whatnot. I'm just saying. Maybe not us right here. Guys who had an established career, made a little bit of money, but maybe right in, you know, the tweens of that, three to five guys looking to make some more money. Guys who want to stay involved in the game. I think it could work.
Will Compton
I'm the type where I'll be like, yo, I'm letting y' all play this game.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, that's exactly. That's my point. There's my bail.
Clay Matthews
Within reason.
Taylor Lewan
Delaney's the head rev. One guy, man, what is you doing? I told him I was gonna let them play. He has to take it up. There's no foul on the place. He's a dude just getting yanked by his face mask. No foul on the place.
Clay Matthews
I'm trying to offer solutions here.
Taylor Lewan
Coaches in there be like, hey, Delaney Walker's the head official, do businesses. Business is being done. The first one's on me.
Will Compton
Hey, they gonna love me every Super Bowl. You ain't gotta get Delaney.
Taylor Lewan
You're crazy.
Will Compton
Me and my crew, they throw the less flags. They let you play, they come in.
Clay Matthews
I'm on Delaney's crew right now.
Will Compton
Talk to you. Hey, I saw that. Next time, I gotta throw it, so be careful.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Hey, that's how it goes.
Will Compton
It's just how it's gonna give everybody the same.
Clay Matthews
And the quarterback.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
The roughing calls. I'm gonna be on your crew on.
Will Compton
The rough and the roughing. The quarterbacks. Yeah, we gotta throw those. But everything else, I'm letting y' all play.
Taylor Lewan
You know, what we need to do isn't like Saudi Arabia doing a flag football game. We need you two to be two minutes. That would be awesome.
Will Compton
Tom Brady, let us do it. I promise you, I'll be on Eagles.
Clay Matthews
I got Eagles over the Rams.
Taylor Lewan
Eagles. Rams, Eagles, Rams.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I like where we sit comp. I like where we're sitting on this one.
Delaney Walker
I like it, too. And get rid of the touch push. Don't get rid of the touch push unless the officiating changes. What's the thing, too? You're an offensive lineman and you on the line.
Will Compton
I was never in it. I would never.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but, like, what's.
Taylor Lewan
Don't put him in the same place.
Delaney Walker
So rule people are posting, like, the pictures from up top, and it's like, oh, the offensive line is like, oh, yeah, crossing the new reservoir with the center. Where do they have to.
Will Compton
We supposed to be like this? It's supposed to be like a wing, but they like that. So you supposed to be back.
Clay Matthews
In.
Taylor Lewan
The belt line of the center.
Delaney Walker
Your head is on the belt line of the center.
Taylor Lewan
No, you have to be as at least that far forward when it comes to being that up. It's like, yeah, you're like. If you're on the ball, there's really no rule that I'm aware of that is like, hey, you can't be this far forward unless it's like, clearly over the line. Because a lot of times an offensive lineman, you want to be back so you have more space to decipher and figure out what's going on. That's why you get a lot of tackles. Or like, and you.
Delaney Walker
You're thinking.
Will Compton
You're thinking.
Delaney Walker
You just can't have your head be on the ball or, like, anything in.
Taylor Lewan
Front of the, like, you can look down, you can see like, oh, I'm good. But there's.
Delaney Walker
There's no zone to where you have to be back.
Taylor Lewan
No.
Will Compton
Okay. You can't be too far back, though.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. There's nothing wrong.
Delaney Walker
No, I get that one. I'm talking about just when I've seen, like, people talking photos over the top being like, oh, this. The offensive line is, like, beyond some point of the center.
Clay Matthews
There's no rule on that now. What do you think they're teaching them? I guess I'd have to go back and listen. Like, is Jalen hurts doing, like, a first sound type thing. Because you see the guards leaving before the center. Like, have they taught the center, like, hey, give it a. Give it like, a little millisecond before you snap it to let the guards get off. Because every time the guards were getting off first that. You can't tell me that was by happenstance.
Will Compton
Well, it didn't used to be.
Delaney Walker
And in the fourth quarter, one, two, guy like the guard and the tackle.
Clay Matthews
But they're going. So, like, I'm wondering if the center knows, like, like, all right, if you get, you know, a push by our, specifically the guards, maybe the tackles too.
Taylor Lewan
Then it's got to be the middle three. The middle three is the only way that play works. The tackles are kind of just there.
Will Compton
When Kels was there, he used to snap it before, and they not used to him. That's why this new center ain't snapping classes. Kelsey Kels used to be like. It was almost like he was jumping off sides when he snapping he and diving to the ground. They. It's just not.
Taylor Lewan
You're in a full sprinter stance.
Will Compton
Like, that's not.
Taylor Lewan
That's like, no fair dodging, like. But could you imagine they do what you did? Like, hey, you guys won that. And then 20, 30 years from now, where there's a photo framed of two defenses in the super bowl lined up like this, someone's gonna sit back there and be like, man, that's when football was football. And you took that away.
Will Compton
I mean, football has already been. It's not football.
Clay Matthews
I'm the one who's lobbying for quarterbacks, giving them a little extra when they're in the ground, giving them a step. I'm the poster boy for that. All right, poster boy, Just come at me. Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
How do you feel about the new kickoff rule? How they line up everything you hate trash. Yeah, hate.
Clay Matthews
It looks ugly.
Taylor Lewan
I think it does look ugly.
Will Compton
I don't like it.
Taylor Lewan
I just think about the Super Bowl. The ball being kicked off, all the cameras going off, people running back.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
And it's like everyone's stationary and there's a zone.
Clay Matthews
Leave it in, leave it in.
Taylor Lewan
Leave the tush. Push in.
Will Compton
Well, they wanted to take the kick. They wanted to take kickoff out of the game. So this is.
Clay Matthews
What are the injury statistics on this. This new kicker? Because I know it's coming out a lot more.
Will Compton
No one's getting hurt. Really, though? Because it's one on one blocks that opening week.
Clay Matthews
Buddy got his knee.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah, yeah. One on one blocks. Pretty much.
Delaney Walker
I see the kickoff lineup. Like, I don't even. I just look at it differently.
Clay Matthews
The Patriots. That was a fun game. I know. We're not talking about it. Miami Patriots, back and forth.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. It's like battle the deaf and blind at that point.
Delaney Walker
One game we gotta talk about is the True Classic game of the week.
Taylor Lewan
True Classic game of the week.
Delaney Walker
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Taylor Lewan
That's cute as hell in it too.
Delaney Walker
Thank you man. Got the hair going. People talking about my receding hairline, well that's a different story for another time. Find True Classic at Amazon and Costco, Sam's Club and Target nationwide or go online@truclassic.com Bussin look good, feel good, Stop.
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Delaney Walker
Let's get to the game of the week Monday Night Football Detroit Lions at the Baltimore Ravens. Right now the Ravens are favored by five and a half points. The over under on this game is 511 1/2.
Will Compton
A lot of people say take the over.51 in there.
Delaney Walker
Lot of people talking about the over.
Taylor Lewan
A lot of people say take the over. I will be this show. I'll pick a team, but I will be taking the over in this game. Just a little personal boy there. I'll get on the FanDuel Sportsbook app. I'll hit the over. Okay, how do we feel about this game?
Clay Matthews
Klay Matthews, Lamar 244 against NFC teams and on Monday night, 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions. He's built for prime time. Here's what I'm going to say though. Outside of statistics like you look at the Lions and I said this last week. You looked at when the Lions played the packers. The packers had more to play for. We talked about home game. Hearing their one and five divisional record all last year. The trade for Micah. Now you get the Lions coming home. It's their first home game. They're coming off a tough loss. Ben Johnson coming back. They play like world beaters. Score 50 plus points. Jared Goff, those were five touchdowns. They look like they don't need Ben Johnson.
Taylor Lewan
They didn't miss a step.
Clay Matthews
They didn't miss a step. They look. Jared Goff took it personal, sure, but it was that their Super Bowl, Was that their, you know, reason to get up now? We got to go back. The Lions got to go back on the road at the Ravens. I just, I, I think it's still too early to, to make a decision on the Lions like what team they are this year. Maybe just the packers are just that good. I think it's too, too small of a, of a sample serving. But, but I like the Ravens. I picked them to win the Super Bowl. I picked lamar to win MVP and they could very easily be 20 if it weren't for that collapse out there on Monday or Sunday Night Football, whatever it was week one, week one. But man, I like the Ravens. I think them going home like to see Derek Henry get back going. I only had like 20 something yards this past week but I think it'll be. I'm taking the over but I got the Ravens as well.
Delaney Walker
You want to talk about the Ravens?
Taylor Lewan
No, I like the Ravens. I think the Ravens are really good.
Delaney Walker
There was a couple question marks when you're talking about.
Taylor Lewan
You put on the film with the Ravens and the Browns and it's like going into half, it's a seven point game.
Clay Matthews
Then ended up Divisional games, I think you throw, throw out all the stats.
Taylor Lewan
Third quarter you get in that, they rush it down to the goal line, end up having a false start penalty, end up in the five. They have four plays to get it into the end zone. They can't get it, end up having a big interception by number two of the Ravens and then they end up having an explosive play and getting it in the end zone. Then it starts to steamroll for him. Joe Flacco, like he's getting chased down all over the place, but he's all, he only had a couple of sacks and it's like he's holding the ball for 3, 4 seconds. Like the pass rush really wasn't, you know, unless they were bringing extra guys, what was really coming in. The thing I like about the Lions is them in 12 personnel. I think obviously you have Sam Laporta, but you also have Brock Wright, who's a guy that like he's going to be your blocker, your first and foremost, your Delaney Walker when you're the 49ers, like he's going to put his face, his hand in the ground, his face in your face over and over again. Then he sneaks off and gets himself a couple of touchdowns. But the movement in the pocket of Jared Goff, his ability to put the ball in the place he needs to be with Almond Ross, St. Brown. I love the way that offense operated. And it's like, okay, we checked the box, everyone kind of calmed down about this offense and it's like, now you have to go play this juggernaut, the Ravens, who are the best put together team in the afc. And then you look at the Lions and their defense and early in that game when the Bears were running the ball from a perimeter standpoint, outside the tackles, they were having success. The coaching staff making in game adjustments before even half, you see them start to run those perimeters, those tackle pin pull schemes. Brian Burns, number 32, comes in, puts his head on the ball, turnover right there. And that's when it starts to steamroll. That's what I love about that coaching staff is like they're not waiting to halftime to make adjustments. They're waiting to, hey, we'll see if these two series what we have and make adjustments accordingly. And so I like the Lions in this game. I like the Lions a lot.
Delaney Walker
I think, I think I'm rocking Lamar on prime time. Yeah, because the big, the big thing too with the Ravens, like they turn it on like in the fourth quarter, the second half, like, you know, the urgency in that building right now is how do we start fast? How do we get going in the first half and play against a tough Detroit Lions team? It's like, who even knows what Detroit's going to be this year. It's like, do they play when they play the juggernaut teams, they kind of fold. When they play the bad teams, they whoop them. Are they kind of in the middle tier? Like, are they going to continue this success against the Baltimore Ravens defense? I don't think they have a whole lot of success against their defense. And I also see, like a big sense of urgency to come out hot and start fast versus bringing this game into the fourth quarter when we start blowing everybody out.
Will Compton
Right.
Delaney Walker
And again, it's like the statue pulling Lamar Jackson in primetime. I just think Monday Night Football in Baltimore, in Baltimore. I like Baltimore to cover here.
Will Compton
And then you gotta look at Derek Herring. He comes out quote, we'll see on Sunday. Gets 20 some yards, no touchdown. I feel like he.
Delaney Walker
That's fumbled again, too.
Will Compton
Oh, fumbled again as well.
Clay Matthews
Maybe that got in his head.
Will Compton
So I just see this as like a game. He's like, I'm about to show everybody what I got. You know what I mean?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, but you felt that'd be the this week too.
Will Compton
I thought it would have been against the Browns, but the Browns do got a good defense. We acting like they not Myles Garrett watching solo.
Delaney Walker
Miles Garrett's a good defense.
Taylor Lewan
He's one of the best pass blocking.
Delaney Walker
Miles Garrett's a good defense, but you.
Will Compton
Feed off of that. You feed off your defense. Feed off. You know how like when you got that dog that's out there just grinding, you kind of like, shit, I'm next. You know what I mean? You feel that? Like, that's how I used to be on offense. Like when Derek or demarco used to bust, I'm like, it's my turn. Give me the ball.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, Dale ain't even the bus.
Will Compton
I want the ball. Give me the bus. All over that defense, you got to. You know what I'm saying, right? Don't you feel like I never got.
Taylor Lewan
The chance to bust?
Will Compton
You caught a touchdown.
Taylor Lewan
I busted that.
Delaney Walker
Man. Ain't nobody catching. Hey, coach, give me the ball.
Will Compton
Yeah, he was excited about that play.
Taylor Lewan
I was our best receiver, I think, statistically, ever. No 100% catch. Every time I touch the ball, turn into a touchdown, same. No, that is not true. You were a hell of a weapon. But like, percentage wise, I blow your.
Will Compton
Out of the water if I did trick plays like, you Too. I will score. Tricks. It was a trick play.
Clay Matthews
Gimmick.
Will Compton
It was a gimmick play. He blocked first, then ran out for a round. Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
No one's ever heard of a wide delay before.
Delaney Walker
All right, who are you going.
Taylor Lewan
You and Ravens.
Will Compton
Yeah, of course.
Taylor Lewan
Ravens.
Clay Matthews
Ravens, Ravens, Ravens, Ravens. The Lions look great when they're on time. When they're on time. You're right.
Taylor Lewan
There was a couple in that game where it wasn't. And like, yeah, Aiden Hutchinson is not Myles Garrett. Aiden Hutchins had one second this game, a couple of pressures. But one of those pressures was a bomb that turned into an interception. Like, they've got. They can get pressure. They have that Campbell kid who's running all over the field, sideline to sideline. He's getting his nose bloody with the offensive line. I'm not in love with the Ravens offensive line. I think the Ravens offensive line knows they have two. Two aliens in the backfield that can kind of make things happen for them. But I'm not in love with the grit there.
Will Compton
I mean, they did play the Bears.
Taylor Lewan
And who's. Who's the Ravens best. Best rusher? No disrespect to Kyle Van noy. He had 12 and a half.
Will Compton
Van Noy is a hurt.
Clay Matthews
He's hurt, though, right now.
Will Compton
He hurt?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. He had 12 and a half sacks last year.
Delaney Walker
But golf, though, though, he'll be.
Will Compton
It's fucked up. The dude got 12 sets, sacks, more sacks that. I ain't gonna say his name, but he played for Green Bay and he got way more money than him. And this man been doing it consistently for 13 years.
Taylor Lewan
How many times he had 12 and a half sacks in his career?
Will Compton
Maybe two, maybe 13 years.
Taylor Lewan
Consistency.
Delaney Walker
But he.
Clay Matthews
But he's consistent.
Taylor Lewan
I like Kyle Vanoy. Kyle Van. Friend of the show.
Delaney Walker
Friend of the show.
Taylor Lewan
Friend of the show. He's consistent. I like Kyle Vanoy. Kyle Vanoy is great at taking advantage of opportunity when the play is. But like from a one on one, like, are you fearing him? Like a Miles Garrett, a Max Crosby 8.
Will Compton
No, you saying it like he the dude at the bar that got to get the drunk chick. Like, he gotta take advantage of an opportunity.
Taylor Lewan
I'm not talking about sexual. Take advantage of. Look, Kavanaugh, he understands the game at a very high level to where he knows where the ball is going to be. Like, I have a lot of respect for that guy.
Will Compton
Smart. Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Athletically, we're not talking about.
Will Compton
No, he's not athletic.
Taylor Lewan
Right.
Delaney Walker
Like you're talking about an elite roster. On Baltimore, you're not sitting there circling Calvin or you got an look at defense, they're still circling Michael Parsons even though he's not even playing every snap of the game.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah. You know when he come in, we need to know like with this guy, they're going to be like, man, they're going to be like, hey, he got a high, high motor. He never gives up.
Taylor Lewan
Disagree. You disagree. He's, he's a very opportunistic player. He knows how to play the game.
Will Compton
So you say he give, he don't. He take plays off.
Taylor Lewan
I think he knows when the plays go the opposite way of him. I think he knows when there's a Paul dude. That's what I'm saying. Like a guy that never takes a playoff is Aiden Hutchinson, a Max Crosby, a Miles Gar, who is just like, they're just a bull in a china shop over and over again. You look at Kyle Van Noy, like if they like run like a Randall or Lamar, you know where the line rolls and they fake the handoff and they roll back the other way and he's in the front side of that play. Yeah, like you could go to the wide on the screen and see that he's jogging. And it's not a disrespectful. I truly mean this as like, like he knows when his opportunity is there, when he, he, he's a guy that like knows when the line's sliding, knowing there's four sliding away. Okay, I have a one on one isolated pass rush here. He knows.
Delaney Walker
Good neck up guy.
Taylor Lewan
Good neck up guy. And I have a lot of respect for that and, and what he's been able to do. But you're not, you're not putting on the film and going, fuck, man. No way this week.
Will Compton
He can change a game though.
Clay Matthews
All right, well, he's not playing this week, so we could just, you know, like move on.
Will Compton
But let's. Can we be honest and say if we put all of us right now we put up game film, we'll have. You can find at least one or two plays. We're either walking, jogging, or is this.
Taylor Lewan
All the back half of our career?
Delaney Walker
You gonna find a place with me out of gas? Okay, but I'm still making plays when I'm out of gas. You look at the clip last week.
Clay Matthews
That was one of the worst highlights I saw.
Delaney Walker
I'm still productive even when I'm jogging.
Clay Matthews
Bro, you seen this?
Delaney Walker
And I'm actually sprinting. It just looks like I'm jogging.
Clay Matthews
This man's running a 5 4. Like, he's not interested in getting the ball whatsoever. Buddy.
Taylor Lewan
Who.
Clay Matthews
Who was it?
Delaney Walker
Peanut Punch.
Clay Matthews
Taylor's friend. Punches it out and you just fall on and get up. The crowd starts roaring. Yeah, like, come on now.
Will Compton
I asked him, was it in slow motion, Slow motion.
Delaney Walker
I told him, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
He's like, oh, opportunistic player.
Clay Matthews
He knew the play was a.
Will Compton
He was a. He would go get it.
Taylor Lewan
He was.
Delaney Walker
I'm a dude. That what Delaney was saying.
Taylor Lewan
Like, these guys that do pretend to be the dude.
Delaney Walker
He tries hard. He never gives up.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
I guess he was starting to explain the guy.
Taylor Lewan
You balk and have to play. You go, man, you're really trying.
Will Compton
Good for you.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, like, you're trying to, like.
Will Compton
Good job, man. Play over.
Taylor Lewan
Effort wise, though mine going back to.
Will Compton
My effort was low. All right, we'll get. We'll get. We'll get to go back to what? Going back to Kyle Van Noy. He has two solo tackles this year and zero sacks.
Clay Matthews
When he get hurt two games.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, he got hurt in the two.
Clay Matthews
Games and he didn't play last game. So he's played one game and he probably got hurt during that game. So let's.
Taylor Lewan
This is not. This is not an indictment on his character and his effort. Like, he is a great football player. I believe that. But I'm just saying, like, we're talking about tears here, and he's not in that one upper echelon tier. And I know he's going to see this respect, and I feel bad.
Delaney Walker
I respect big fans of cop, but your effort.
Will Compton
My effort was never low unless it was a backside play and it was already past the line of scrimmage.
Delaney Walker
Okay? It's all right. Listen, guys, we're all here now. We're all done playing the game, talking about my effort. It's all good. Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Michelob Ultra's got this idea that we love. Play for an Ultra, it's all about those little friendly competition when there's an Ultra on the line.
Delaney Walker
It's like if the boys are playing big.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
I take you down. I claim my Michelob Ultra.
Taylor Lewan
Right? And everybody knows if we were to play Pig, that would never happen. That beer would be mine.
Delaney Walker
But that's exactly my point.
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Delaney Walker
It'S touchdowns, hoops, ping pong, cornhole, whatever. Bragging rights. Tastes better when you have an ice cold Ultra in your hand.
Taylor Lewan
Superior is worth playing for. Michelob Ultra Superior Light Beer Poke a little bear.
Delaney Walker
Hey, little bonus, little bonus game we forgot to talk about was the Sunday night football game. Chiefs at Giants.
Will Compton
No one cares.
Delaney Walker
Chiefs favored by five and a half. The over under on this game is 44 and a half.
Clay Matthews
Chiefs aren't starting owing three. We said they weren't starting owing two. Actually I did say they were starting.
Taylor Lewan
Chiefs can't start owing three.
Clay Matthews
They won't start owing three.
Delaney Walker
They start owing three and lose against the Giants. It's done.
Clay Matthews
It's done.
Delaney Walker
It's done.
Clay Matthews
They're still a wild card team. I know. Were you saying earlier you said they're out?
Will Compton
He said they won't make the play.
Clay Matthews
Oh yeah. One of y' all teams.
Delaney Walker
Teams who start 02 over the last.
Clay Matthews
Few years and how many teams have won two Super Bowls in a row? What's the stats on that? Or been to Three Super Bowls in a row.
Delaney Walker
But we ain't talking about the past. We're talking about right now.
Clay Matthews
No, you are talking about the past because you're bringing up a playoff. Literally, your statistics are based off.
Taylor Lewan
We're not talking about the past.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but there's no data on how.
Clay Matthews
Many Super Bowls there has to be because the Chiefs just played in three Super Bowls after they said it's impossible.
Delaney Walker
But they never started owing two. They haven't started owing two since2014.
Will Compton
He said, Bro, I'm.
Clay Matthews
Man, we're so like. I'm asking what the statistics are. If you're saying it's Damn near impossible. 12 and a half percent to make the playoffs when you start 0 and 2. I'm asking. It'd be three, four years ago. When you say, hey, what are the chances the Chiefs make the super bowl the next three years?
Taylor Lewan
Three, four years ago, I think everybody was like, probably pretty high.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
All right, whatever.
Taylor Lewan
Statistically, teams that start owing 3 since 1990, which is 35 years ago, is 2.8%.
Will Compton
Okay.
Delaney Walker
Oh, nice.
Will Compton
Did you just pull that out your hat or.
Taylor Lewan
I actually looked that up this morning. I was thinking to myself, like, it was always talking about 02, like, I wonder what 03 is. Chad GPT's cute ass just popped that.
Will Compton
Thing up there for me.
Taylor Lewan
Stuck right here.
Clay Matthews
I still think the Chiefs are. I picked the Chiefs to win the division.
Taylor Lewan
How do you feel about that?
Will Compton
But you said that earlier, though, right?
Clay Matthews
What, that the Chiefs are going to win. Yeah, No, I picked them to win the division. It's looking tough right now at 02. What's the chance of them winning their division?
Will Compton
Oh, That's a good one.
Taylor Lewan
14.6.
Clay Matthews
Okay. All right. So there's a chance. I mean, listen, I'm not going to jump ship, but, like, it looks like the Chargers are, you know, two weeks.
Delaney Walker
In, it looks like the Chargers.
Clay Matthews
Right. But I got the chance would be two.
Delaney Walker
No, two now if they didn't get the.
Taylor Lewan
All I'm saying is Broncos scored more points in both games. They'd be up.
Will Compton
The Chiefs are played a part in that game.
Clay Matthews
Look at the two teams they played. They lost by one score. Whereas I believe before the. When we were doing our futures picks, you had said, like, they can't keep winning like this. And perhaps these are those two teams. But are these two games like, they play the Eagles, they play the Chargers, who. Who look phenomenal. Two phenomenal teams. Like, let them play some Giants, you know, and stack those wins up versus Russell west. That was fun to watch, but that was just bad defense by Dallas.
Taylor Lewan
I just think neighbors 100, 176 yards.
Clay Matthews
That was a fun game to watch. That was a fun game to watch. Russell Wilson out of nowhere, dangerous Russell.
Taylor Lewan
Wilson a nowhere like Russell Wilson has always been known to throw like a.
Clay Matthews
Beautiful, beautiful deep ball.
Delaney Walker
But like, but I'm saying the conversations last week, when you throw in Jackson dart.
Clay Matthews
Yes, when speaking.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, when do you throw in Jackson dart? And then he goes off for over 400 against the Cowboys.
Taylor Lewan
That's cause he knew anytime soon.
Clay Matthews
I got the Chiefs. And I think the Giants are one more loss closer to starting Jackson dart. I don't see the Chiefs losing this one.
Delaney Walker
I'm good.
Taylor Lewan
I look, yeah, I think I agree with everything you're saying. I think Russell Wilson bought himself some time with that last game. I think it's more of like defense on the cowboy side breaking down a lot more than Russell Wilson wheeling and dealing. Like you still only have a run game. You still like that was Chiefs got.
Delaney Walker
A better pass rush, they got a better second level.
Taylor Lewan
They have a better defense. If one thing the Chiefs has to live by right now while they still have Rice out and all these guys, they've got to have a defense that's reliable, that's showing they can do that, consistent. They did it all last year, they did the year before. Like Spags is not going to have these miscues with the Giants. Like, but to me this is not about, you know, the Chiefs covering minus five and a half. Like Chiefs need to cover big. Chiefs need to have explosive plays down the field. Chiefs need to figure out a way to get tough and like run the ball efficiently and like take shots in the field, be productive. Like show like, hey, we're still here because you go and win this game comes down to a field goal, you know.
Clay Matthews
Well, the Chiefs were there last game. If it weren't for that, that interception on the goal line, what was the score before that? Before that play?
Will Compton
That would have tied it.
Clay Matthews
That would have tied it. And I'm saying they're going in a little angle route. Travis can't get his head around fast enough. Beautiful pass by Mahomes. Mahomes is still Mahomes. Mahomes is still phenomenal. All I'm saying is they go to tie it right there. Meanwhile, you can tell the mantra of the Eagles in the second half is like, let's not screw this up. I mean, I don't know. Many times Jalen Hurts threw the ball.
Taylor Lewan
He threw for 101 yards, averaging 119 yards throw.
Clay Matthews
So they're just trying to play right. Really good situational clock management, team ball just to win games as opposed to doing what they did last year. Run for 200 yards. Jalen scoring his feet. Like, right now, it looks like they're playing not to lose than they are to win. I know we're not talking about the Eagles here, but I think the Chiefs, it just shows how close they are. I know that we talk about scoring more points, but, like, very easily could be 20 right now if they score more points.
Taylor Lewan
But I'm just saying, if they went to Brazil and they went home against.
Clay Matthews
The United States, scored more points there.
Taylor Lewan
That's why we got you for the show.
Clay Matthews
Thank you.
Taylor Lewan
That kind of. That kind of.
Clay Matthews
And gifts.
Taylor Lewan
And gifts. Which apparently you're done now with.
Delaney Walker
I can't.
Clay Matthews
Well, honestly, you're saying I'm done with that. Maybe if you were a little nicer than me, I'd get you some gifts. When's your birthday?
Taylor Lewan
You forgot about the cheese curds.
Clay Matthews
Those are great, by the way.
Will Compton
But he telling you, if Kelsey makes that catch, we talking about different.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Taylor Lewan
There's still a lot of times on that clock.
Will Compton
It was a lot of time.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. But then the Eagles have to start opening up a little bit more, allowing that passer. That's all I'm saying.
Taylor Lewan
Right. Here's what worries me about the Chiefs being successful the rest of this year is when you get into situations like you are right now, where you don't have a lot of weapons in the perimeter, you have to run the ball. If you're a team that has kind of. You're running the ball has been these, like, really short, quick throws, which no one does it better than Patrick Mahomes. Like, toughness is a thing that's earned, like a callus. And you can't just go in and be like, okay, now we're going to run the ball down your throat. That's not something you can just go and do. And so that makes me really worried about this offense in a big way. I think the defense is going to keep them in games always. But, like, to think we're looking at another super bowl team.
Clay Matthews
They still squeak.
Taylor Lewan
No, big time. Big time.
Will Compton
No, that's right. I mean, I want to take the Chiefs, but I got to move the line on this.
Clay Matthews
You know what that is? That's a protein.
Will Compton
I got to move the line.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, this is what happens if you guys are falling Asleep eating cheese over here, trying to move the line.
Clay Matthews
Are you lactose intolerant, bro? Try it.
Will Compton
You can hit a squeak. I can't. I just. I can't.
Clay Matthews
I don't feel like Minnie Mouse if you hit it.
Will Compton
I don't feel comfortable taking the Chiefs at minus five and a half.
Clay Matthews
Good.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, it should taste good.
Will Compton
I said I don't feel comfortable taking the Chiefs minus five and a half. I just don't feel comfortable.
Delaney Walker
So you got. You got the Giants plus five and a half.
Taylor Lewan
Right? So this is 101, right? I'm looking at something and people are saying Chiefs are going to win this game by more than five points.
Will Compton
I know.
Taylor Lewan
And you're going, I don't like that. So then you would take the other team, who you can take to lose by less than five points.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Why is this squeaking?
Clay Matthews
That's the protein in it. Look it up. Look it up. It's the protein in that.
Will Compton
Okay.
Clay Matthews
I believe so. This is cheddar right here. Before they press it into a mold, they just. They take off the curds off the top. Something about the protein structure when you start biting into it, it's got that squeak.
Will Compton
It's got a fucking squeak.
Clay Matthews
I'm telling you, bro, this is Giants or Chiefs from Wisconsin.
Taylor Lewan
All right? This cheese, plus my fake teeth, it's gotta have some sort of weird vibration going on.
Will Compton
Giants as well as five and a half.
Taylor Lewan
There you go.
Will Compton
Hey, There you go.
Taylor Lewan
I was gonna get nervous. Piece of me. Ones actually go with you, huh? There's a piece of me that wants to go with you.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
How about this? Bet the boys parlay, though.
Taylor Lewan
How about it? Let's do it.
Delaney Walker
How about this? Bet the boys parlay. How did it do last week?
Taylor Lewan
Clump. We didn't do well.
Will Compton
We only missed one.
Clay Matthews
Hey, Jalen got his touchdown. You should have stayed with. Saquon scored and then he had a great game.
Will Compton
He had a great. I know. It was crazy.
Delaney Walker
I'm still rocking with Javante Williams.
Clay Matthews
So we're doubling down on Bijan this week. Taylor.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, I'm doubling down. Bijan.
Clay Matthews
All right.
Taylor Lewan
I love Bijan. First off, Rya Shockers drafted him.
Will Compton
He's been crushing for going nuts.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, we're 2 and O.
Will Compton
He's been going nuts.
Taylor Lewan
We're 2 and O. We have two guys that are suspended, so we're in a good position. I like Bijan Robinson a lot.
Clay Matthews
Give me almond raw. I mean, last week. Play the odds, brother. I mean, he looks so good. He looks so good. Like when they're on time. You're talking about Ravens don't. If they don't have a pass rush, like he's wide receiver number one there. He's going to get his chances. They're giving him 10 plus attempts a game. Like, yeah, if you're playing the odds. Wait, did I just say I am playing the odds?
Taylor Lewan
You said you can't play the odds, bro.
Clay Matthews
The odds are that he's balling. That's what it is. The odds are that he'll ball out because he's playing so well. Give me almond raw. Who did I have in week one? Did I hit on that? Thank you.
Taylor Lewan
I don't think you've missed yet.
Will Compton
He did not score.
Clay Matthews
You sure that wasn't week two?
Taylor Lewan
This is actually a great week.
Clay Matthews
That's because Kittle got hurt. I switched it from Devonte. He didn't have it, but Kittle got hurt. So that's not really my fault. So I'm in raw. I got him this week.
Taylor Lewan
Josh pay. It's not your fault.
Clay Matthews
It's not my fault.
Taylor Lewan
It's their fault. They up.
Clay Matthews
Well now you got hurt. Like I didn't foresee that how much.
Taylor Lewan
The soft tissue was going to happen.
Clay Matthews
Us white boys, we get soft tissue injuries.
Taylor Lewan
You get soft tish. I had never had a soft tish.
Clay Matthews
Well, you didn't. You just weren't explosive enough.
Taylor Lewan
Well, that's weird.
Clay Matthews
You were just like.
Taylor Lewan
I ran a 48.
Clay Matthews
48. Hey, you know what? The two first off.
Taylor Lewan
Don't do that.
Clay Matthews
Hey, don't take away my 2009 combine. Check this out for explositivity, if that's a word. Hey, you know who ran the fastest 10 yard split at the combine amongst all positions? Percy Harvin. 149. No, 14 8. You know who ran the second fastest? Your boy right here. 148. 10 yards split off the line. It's got me drafted in the first round.
Will Compton
That's potential.
Taylor Lewan
You're less than two.
Clay Matthews
No, I'm just saying I'm an explosive guy. I'm an explosive.
Delaney Walker
You are. You are. I got.
Will Compton
I got Jonathan Taylor, so.
Clay Matthews
Oh, sorry.
Will Compton
No, no. You got to get going.
Taylor Lewan
What was your 41 thing on the explosiveness? Your RAZ score is a 9.68. Hey, that's pretty good.
Clay Matthews
What's that?
Taylor Lewan
That is amazing. That's your.
Delaney Walker
Like you're an elite athlete.
Will Compton
Your combine.
Taylor Lewan
Make sure. Make sure. Make sure you in the mic, your com, your combine. It is your relative athletic score. 9.68 Clay, which is Amazing. That's. That's elite, actually.
Delaney Walker
Taylor Luans, 10.0.
Taylor Lewan
What? Nice.
Delaney Walker
It can be for Rasport.
Will Compton
Just throwing that out there.
Clay Matthews
Oh, what was Jake Matthews not that high.
Taylor Lewan
Listen, Jake's still playing, so, like, obviously you take him six overall, but, like, we ain't doing combine numbers.
Clay Matthews
Combine is just, you know.
Will Compton
Talking about.
Taylor Lewan
Combine because he found out the wrong way. He was eyeing me up, too. I remember the combine. He was looking me up and down. I said, hey, go ahead and watch this kid.
Delaney Walker
Jake Matthews was 9.55.
Clay Matthews
How's he. How's Matthew's doing?
Taylor Lewan
He's.
Clay Matthews
He's playing year 12. Yeah, year 12.
Delaney Walker
You were elite, though.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, they wanted me back. I just said I didn't want it, you know?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, they want me back.
Taylor Lewan
I said, I don't want to play no more.
Clay Matthews
What's. Can we get some more ras? What was Will. Did they have an NA in there or what?
Will Compton
Did you go to the comb?
Taylor Lewan
You. He just munching on cheese. He goes, hey, you were elite, man.
Delaney Walker
He goes, thank you.
Taylor Lewan
What was Will's a. I didn't mean.
Clay Matthews
I didn't mean any disrespect. I didn't know if you went to the combine or not. Did you go to the combine?
Taylor Lewan
Oh, respect the sevens.
Clay Matthews
What's the percentages of a guy who was 7.28 lasting 10 years in the league?
Taylor Lewan
What was Delaney's rat score?
Delaney Walker
Damn.
Will Compton
Delaney's was 7.22.
Taylor Lewan
Damn, Delaney, we got a better rat score than you.
Delaney Walker
Oh, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Taylor Lewan
Was getting that squeaky cheese. He didn't hear it. Say it again.
Will Compton
Wills was 7.28, Delaney 7.22.
Clay Matthews
I think when you transferred, like, maybe there was.
Taylor Lewan
You're the most athletic guy on this show.
Will Compton
Listen, I only ran the 40 at the combine.
Clay Matthews
Why didn't you do anything else?
Will Compton
Because I was. I was a receiver. They wanted me to be a tight end.
Clay Matthews
You were a receiver?
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
What you weigh? Coming out?
Will Compton
238. Wow. And they wanted me to do tight end. And I'm like, oh, hell no. I'm just going to run to 40, and that got me drafted. You lost to a guy just shoveling cheese in his mouth right now. Who.
Delaney Walker
Who?
Clay Matthews
He's retired.
Will Compton
Was he drafted?
Delaney Walker
Nah.
Will Compton
Okay.
Delaney Walker
Clearly a mistake. Less than nine years. Clearly they were wrong.
Will Compton
They obviously wasn't wrong about me. Delaney did run a 4, 4, 9. Damn.
Clay Matthews
4, 4, 9.
Taylor Lewan
At the combine.
Clay Matthews
Official.
Will Compton
Official.
Clay Matthews
Would you run 4, 5, 4? I think official. 4, 6. Hey, after the 10 yards I looked away.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, he looked away.
Clay Matthews
Oh, like I never had around 40 yards. I ran 10 yards of the quarterback, you know.
Will Compton
You know.
Taylor Lewan
Oh, I know.
Will Compton
You know. You not scores out there now. The people who taking those charts are the same.
Clay Matthews
Pft people.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Clay ran a 4 7. What?
Will Compton
You ran a 4, 6 7.
Taylor Lewan
So you're 2/10 of a second faster than me when I was 312 pounds. Would you weigh the combine?
Will Compton
We take it 240.
Taylor Lewan
Okay, so I weighed 70 pounds more than. Than you.
Clay Matthews
That 10 yard split, bro, you have a longer gate. What was this 10 yard split? 10 yard split?
Delaney Walker
A runner shorts.
Clay Matthews
No, no, no. You're reading. You're reading from the. Com.
Delaney Walker
The only one that matters.
Clay Matthews
The USC apart. You're reading from the pro. You're reading from the pro day. Come on, bro, that's Wikipedia.
Will Compton
You read questions, gangster.
Taylor Lewan
Bro, get his ass clown. No, I want to hear this. Ah, for real.
Clay Matthews
Hey, wait.
Taylor Lewan
What was him. What was him? 167.
Clay Matthews
They're both wrong. It's not.
Taylor Lewan
Oh, so he's a tenth of a second faster than me on the ten. And according to Will, I'm pretty good at the quickness. It's not.
Clay Matthews
That's wrong. The Internet's wrong.
Delaney Walker
Internet is wrong.
Clay Matthews
The Internet's wrong on that one. Hey, Will's a dog. Delaney's fast.
Will Compton
As.
Clay Matthews
You're pretty good. And I was fast. Like, that's pretty good.
Taylor Lewan
According to the stats, I'm better.
Clay Matthews
Bro, you probably. You probably moderate your own Wikipedia page right there. You probably enter in all your little information.
Taylor Lewan
I'm not good at the commuter though. I can't really get the edit button down.
Clay Matthews
Okay, well, I'm just saying.
Will Compton
Wait, so. But see, Taylor, you got. You was an athletic tackle. You got to make this known. Like, you're not.
Taylor Lewan
Gotta make it known. It's public information.
Will Compton
I'm just saying.
Delaney Walker
But what are you saying? Like.
Clay Matthews
Like that's all.
Taylor Lewan
That's all. Because I didn't have stats is what you're saying. Saying because I didn't have stats, I just say, hey, guys, look at me.
Will Compton
No, I'm just like you was you thin. You was thinner than most tackles.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. In shape is what they call that.
Will Compton
Okay, if you wouldn't call it that.
Delaney Walker
You're saying he's getting judged amongst like tackles and offensive line.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, like you should have just been a tight end. Really saying like, you're not even a tackle. So those numbers, they were saying the.
Taylor Lewan
Same thing to me in the all American game. Proved them wrong on that too, but.
Will Compton
That you should have played tight end.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Really.
Taylor Lewan
When I got there, Kevin Grass was committed to usc. He told me, he goes, what you doing over here, man? You should go sit with the tight end. That's where you'll be anyway when you go to college.
Will Compton
Wow.
Taylor Lewan
I kept it quiet, but in my head I remembered he went undrafted. Wow. He might have been like a fifth round.
Will Compton
Oh, yo, yo.
Taylor Lewan
Hey. So petty, guys. So petty.
Will Compton
What's the touchdown parlay?
Delaney Walker
Bijon Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, Javante Williams, Amon Ross, St. Brown.
Taylor Lewan
We stream every Thursday night for the Thursday night football game. You were there last week.
Will Compton
I was there.
Taylor Lewan
You were there last week.
Clay Matthews
I was not there.
Taylor Lewan
You were not there last week.
Clay Matthews
I was coaching flag football.
Taylor Lewan
Are you gonna be there this week?
Will Compton
Did I say that too? I said what are you doing coaching flag football? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, they was killing you on the line.
Taylor Lewan
Also, we'll have a special guest, Biggie Cook. The Bucks will be joining us on our live stream Thursday. He'll be joining us traveling from Chattanooga. First time I'm actually meeting him in person. Actually second time. This dude named Biggie, he has an Instagram account called Cook the Books and he does like skits all the time. Funny cat. He actually, when he was first starting out we were in Vegas for a meet and greet. He met us outside the meet and greet and gave us like a. Just like a quick little piece of content with us. But he's blown up in a big way.
Will Compton
Good.
Taylor Lewan
So we've been talking to him a little bit. He's gonna come to the stream. This is like the first real time I'm meeting him. Hopefully he has a good showing.
Will Compton
Yeah, let's slow people's a good hang.
Taylor Lewan
Hopefully he's a good hang. That's. That's what you want.
Will Compton
JP guy didn't say a fucking word.
Taylor Lewan
JP's guy didn't need to.
Clay Matthews
He was sunburned.
Taylor Lewan
He was dying.
Delaney Walker
Just taking shots. Your homie just coming to hang out like he's like, yeah, I guess.
Will Compton
He wasn't.
Taylor Lewan
Big parlays will be cooked up. Possibly some giveaways. Possibly, possibly some giveaways going on. But yeah, great show boys.
Will Compton
Great shows.
Taylor Lewan
Fun times. It's always good to fun to poke the bear a little bit. We'll check in on Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson and Delaney Walker's thoughts next week. Week. Big hugs, tiny kisses, have a great day.
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Episode: "Clay Matthews Wants To BAN The Tush Push, Will Compton & Delanie Walker RIDE The Ravens VS. Lions"
Date: September 18, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton & Taylor Lewan
Guests: Clay Matthews & Delanie Walker
The Boys jump into a classic NFL locker-room banter episode, diving deep into Week 3 predictions, reactions to Week 2, quirky debates about on-field trends (including Clay Matthews’ crusade against the tush push), hand-washing drama, and backup QB chatter. The crew debates betting strategies, reflects on personal career moments, and delivers good-natured roasts amid honest football talk.
On Double Dipping:
“If you double dip… it’s like not washing your hands after you take a number two. Like, it’s disrespectful.”
— Will Compton [08:54]
On Backup Quarterbacks:
“When we had a backup QB, I was so delusional. I thought we were going to win every single game.”
— Taylor Lewan [21:27]
On the Tush Push:
“I think I’m done with the tush push, man… I want to see them run. You’re too successful at the play… just get back to what looks like normal football instead of a scrum.”
— Clay Matthews [44:15]
On Ex-Players as Refs:
“Make ‘em full time employees… then maybe people who understand the speed of the game…”
— Clay Matthews [46:52]
On Athletic Scores:
“According to the stats, I’m better.”
— Taylor Lewan [83:57]
Cardinals vs. 49ers:
Taylor & Delaney: 49ers | Will: Cardinals [+1.5] [15:00–20:23]
Bengals vs. Vikings:
Taylor: Bengals | Delaney: Vikings | Will: Under 42.5, but Vikings if forced [20:32–27:20]
Raiders vs. Commanders:
Everyone on Commanders [-3.5], though not super confident [30:41–37:39]
Rams vs. Eagles:
Clay & Delaney: Eagles | Taylor & Will: Rams +3.5 [38:44–47:40]
Lions vs. Ravens (MNF):
Everyone picks Ravens [-5.5]; Taylor offers strong tactical Lions love but sides with Baltimore [55:38–65:08]
Chiefs vs. Giants:
Everyone sees the Chiefs avoiding an 0–3 hole, but Will & Taylor wary of them covering -5.5 [69:35–77:14]
The Boys aren’t just making picks—they’re offering honest, often hilarious insights from their NFL playing days. The episode stands out for its irreverent tone, depth of football IQ, and open disagreement (especially with Clay’s anti-tush push activism and betting line debates). The NFL’s “year of the backup QB” comes alive through stories and analysis. And at the end of the day, it’s all about bragging rights, ice-cold ultras, and proving someone wrong next week.
Catch the Boys next Thursday for more locker-room wisdom and laughs!
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