Dan Lanning On Oregon’s Win Over Penn State + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan: “The Chiefs Are Back”

Summary

Bussin' With The Boys – Episode Summary

Episode Date: September 29, 2025
Main Guests: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan, Dan Lanning (Oregon Head Coach)
Main Themes: Oregon’s win over Penn State, college football weekend recap, NFL talk, guest interview with Dan Lanning

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively Monday morning recap that covers the wildest moments from the college and NFL football weekend — including major upsets, betting swings, top team analysis, and an in-depth interview with Oregon head coach Dan Lanning. Will and Taylor, with their signature locker room banter, break down why "the Chiefs are back," debate the insanity of college football overtime rules, mock the AP poll, and welcome Lanning to discuss Oregon’s dramatic double-overtime victory at Penn State’s famous Whiteout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekly College Football Recap

Timestamps: 03:23–30:41

• Group Betting Antics & Parlay Near Misses

  • The crew discusses their weekend bets and the beloved ritual of sharing FanDuel parlays in the group chat.
  • Notable story: Will held on to a 10-leg bet (03:17), taking listeners through the emotional rollercoaster as Georgia threatened his final leg.
    • "I almost had a 10-legger hit... there's a part where I should have cashed out." – Will (03:17-03:55)

• Biggest College Games & Results

  • Analysis of Alabama’s comeback and resurgence in the SEC — hosts agree: “Bama’s back.”
  • Oregon’s controlled but tense double OT win over Penn State, highlighting the intimidating Whiteout environment (07:16–08:31).
  • Shout-outs to dominant performances (Ohio State at Washington, Virginia’s double OT thriller with FSU, Illinois upsetting USC, etc).
    • “Oregon going into Penn State on a night game, whiteout, and getting that W with a young football team, that speaks volumes.” — Will (07:58)
    • “If you’re watching that game from start to finish, like Illinois was clearly the better football team on that day.” — Taylor (29:06)
  • Chaos in the ACC and Big Ten—parity is strong, anything can happen.

• Fan Behavior & Field Storming

  • Discussion of fan field-storming after Virginia-FSU, with player safety concerns and musing on the wildness of college crowds (09:26).

• Conference Power Rankings and Open Field

  • Hosts debate the most “open” and unpredictable conferences, with most title races “wide open” this year (11:49).

• Player & Coach Highlights

  • Praise for Ty Simpson’s fundamentals at Alabama (16:28–16:39).
  • Heisman chatter: Diego Pavia’s stats, Dante Moore’s odds, and standout performances from unexpected stars.

Notable Quote:

"I know Hubbard had the effort plays — number 18, that backer for Bama. That’s a good ballplayer. But what I loved about Bama is when something would happen, the coaches, like, come running onto the field telling their guys, forget about that play … That’s on us. That’s on me. You love to see that rallying effort."
— Will Compton (12:08)

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2. College Football Culture & Rants

Timestamps: 24:36–30:41

• AP Poll Critique

  • Extended riff on the AP poll’s flaws, the need for real “football guys” like Joel Klatt and Kirk Herbstreit as voters, and general distrust of media rankings.
    • "I feel like they're not being serious … reminds me of the Madden ratings where they just get everybody talking." — Taylor (26:46)
    • "Bus with the Boys should definitely get a couple votes..." (26:40)

• Portal Era & Transfers

  • The transfer portal’s dominance: the top 7 portal classes started the week at a combined 27-0 (21:36).

• Heisman Watch and ‘Fraud Alert’ Teams

  • Chatter over who’s real, who’s not (USC, LSU, etc. on “fraud alert”).
  • Notable newcomers like Ole Miss QB Trinidad Chambliss getting recognition (20:36).

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3. NFL Week-in-Review

Timestamps: 39:45–66:29

• Chiefs Back On Top

  • Chiefs declared “good again,” while the Ravens have “some s*** to figure out.”

• Overtime Drama and Game Planning

  • Packers-Cowboys tie sparks debate on NFL overtime rules and the “embarrassment” of ties.
    • “A tie is just a weird headspace. It’s like, you didn’t lose. You didn’t win. What are we doing?” — (49:36)

• Team-Specific Deep Dives

  • Cowboys: Dak Prescott’s huge day (despite missing key weapons).
  • Titans: Extended lament on Tennessee’s struggles — “the worst franchise we’ve ever had in the history of the Titans.” (53:09)
  • Eagles: Jalen Hurts keeps winning despite a stat line of zero second-half completions; A.J. Brown’s cryptic tweets.
    • “Death, taxes, Eagles being undefeated, and A.J. Brown cryptic tweet coming out.” — (64:36)

• Injury Roundtable

  • Hosts, with player-guest stories, reveal their worst football injuries and locker-room war stories (61:20–63:35).

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4. Dan Lanning Interview: Oregon’s Thrilling Win & Building a Program

Timestamps: 78:30–111:28

Emotion After Beating Penn State

• Lanning animatedly shares the post-game emotional dump, calling himself "jacked," cycling from near tears to triumph (78:30).
  • "You're about to cry, you’re about to scream, you’re just like jacked. And I probably had like 50 Zyns at the time, you know."
    — Dan Lanning (78:30)

Defensive Mindset and Game Adjustments

• Lanning details the crucial interception in OT, and the staff’s decision-making under pressure — pulling a practiced, as-yet-unseen play out of their “Rolodex.”
  • "We ran a call we hadn't run all game, but we had practiced for this game. We created it for those two plays." — Dan Lanning (79:48)

Preparation for the Whiteout Chaos

• Oregon’s prep for Penn State’s famed Whiteout:
  • Simulated crowd noise at practice, strategic focus periods (“Hot Spot Period”), and pride in the O-line for avoiding false starts.
  • "We had our stadium speakers going ... and 15 Turtleboxes up on our guys. Our offensive line didn't have a single false start." (82:39)

Handling Players, Building Culture

• Honest conversations with QBs about competing for the job (esp. with Dante Moore), and the importance of patience in the portal era.
  • "What it starts with is you be honest ... The key was how they played when they left."' (90:00)

Philosophy on Coaching, Legacy, and Pressure

• Lanning opens up on outside criticisms, how coaches deal with "shadows" like records vs top-10 opponents.
  • "What I think you figure out really quick as a head coach is like, who cares? Who cares what anybody else thinks?" (98:09)
• Focus on always learning lessons, stacking advantages, and improving even after a big win.

Decision-Making in High-Leverage Moments

• Aggressive playcalling: went for it 7 times on 4th down in the PSU game.
  • "I told our guys, we’re going to be aggressive in this game, and we’re going to walk back after the game and say: Oh man, I wish we would have... or."' (99:48)

Unique Football Dad Moments

• Shares his favorite off-field tradition: night walks with family

  • "That’s something you can never take away from me. At some point these guys are gonna be 18 and 20 and they're probably not gonna want to go on walks with their dad anymore." (107:59)

• Admits: enjoying being on the grass, with the team, and “never getting tired of winning.” (109:17)

Locker Room Culture

• Banter about Missouri running backs/LBs, and playful jabs about Will’s spring game moment.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Dan Lanning:

  • "We're going to hit cuts, and eventually we're going to hit a couple arteries. And, yeah, we hit one there, but it obviously wasn't enough." (81:53)
  • "I can't speak to [Penn State's struggles vs Top 10]. ... James Franklin is an unbelievable coach." (96:42)

• Taylor Lewan:

  • "If you're Ole Miss, he kind of has to take the accountability at some point. He told the world, take the over..." (19:17)

• Will Compton:

  • "We love to overreact, but also, a lot can happen in four weeks." (14:42)
  • "If you can't acknowledge [luck in football], you haven't really been a part of football." (98:09)

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Segment Timestamps

• Weekend Recap, Betting, and College Football Chaos: 03:17–30:41
• AP Poll, Portal Era, Heisman Watch: 24:36–30:41
• NFL Recap & Deep Dives: 39:45–66:29
• In-depth with Dan Lanning: 78:30–111:28

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Episode Flow & Tone

The tone is classic locker room: honest, irreverent, competitive, loaded with inside jokes and big-picture observations. Both hosts aren’t afraid to roast teams (especially the Titans), or themselves. Dan Lanning fits in seamlessly, bringing authenticity, vulnerability, and genuine football intellect — always keeping it playful with the Boys.

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Summary Takeaways

• Standout College Performers: Oregon proves itself in Happy Valley; Alabama surges back; chaos in the polls.
• NFL Themes: Chiefs are back. Eagles win ugly. Cowboys vs Packers “tie” highlights OT rule insanity. Titans fans enter full-on despair.
• Dan Lanning’s Insight: Preparation, self-scouting, building a culture, and the emotional highs and lows of leading a team through iconic environments.
• Football’s Parity Era: Every league is up for grabs.
• Locker Room Takeaways: Even the best are learning; family moments matter; criticism is ever-present, but focus stays on growth.

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This episode is a must-listen for fans craving inside-the-lines detail, smart recaps, and big laughs — with a rare, candid peek into the mind of one of college football’s rising head coaches.

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For additional details or particular game discussions, reference the timestamps above.

Transcript

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I almost had. I almost had a 10 legger hit.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Man, you're so close.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I know, dude.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

There's a fun thing we do at bustle with the boys. Whether it's Saturday, Sunday, Thursday, Monday, whenever there's a football game on, boys just start putting in the group chat, you know, fanduel here, I got this parlay. I got this parlay. I don't even look at the parlays. I just hit them and I, I put on whatever on it responsibly. Responsibly. But I, I just love to be in the action with my dogs. Yeah, absolutely. And will had a 10 legger. College football. Everything was going according to plan. Literally everything until the dogs.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Until it was and I could have, should have, I don't know, cashed out. There's a part where I should have cashed out. And honestly I was thinking I should hit this cash out. There's no way George is going to get this ball back and move the ball down and score and take the lead and. But I held it because honestly, it's like, hey, what if we want Bama to win? Maybe I have to stay on this parlay.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

If I get out, do all of a sudden Georgia wins and then I'm. I'm kicking myself both ways.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yep.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Because I wanted to cash out just so I could be like, I want to cash out and just vibes because it's not like I'm gonna sit there and be hype in G's face if Georgia comes back.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

But I could cash out and just go all in on like root for Bama to win this game. But if Georgia happened to win and I cashed out, I'd be like, oh, this is all bad.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

See, for me, I was kind of. I wanted you to have his time. He had his headphones and he was there, but he really wasn't there. He was so focused on the game while watching Oregon and Penn State. But I'm sitting next to JP and like towards the end of that game, I keep flashing over the fanduel like, hey, this old ten Laker, I kind of need Georgia. I need Georgia to come back in.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

A big way and say it a little loud. And I'll be, hey, hey.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Like, look over here. Because Garrett's, like, verbally assaulting people.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely murdering.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Lucky they were on the other side of the tv.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. But, yeah, Will had himself an L5S1's seize up during the game. So he went from the front row to the back row. And I keep, like, getting a little kink in my neck looking back at him being like, hey, do we cash out of this thing? Because it is his parlay. So when I get. There's nine out of 10 legs, like, I'm kind of letting somebody else drive here. And he goes, I'm staying. I thought, okay, we're staying back. Last words.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Get nervous. When Will moved to the back because you were next to me all game.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And then when I went to the.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Back, I was like, you might.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I had to move, bro, Because I had to, like, stand, like, my back spasming. Yeah. You know I sit on soft.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Tell you what. I know you heard that fart, though.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Which one?

[Guest or Analyst]

The whole stream, dude.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

But he's smoking out the whole place.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Apparently, it wasn't even me, bro.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Allegedly. Fargate. Fargate was happening. Can we get a big round of applause for everybody on the bus being victorious in college football this week. Their teams going victorious. G. We just talked about Alabama, Mitch. Ohio State 1. And you're. I guess, or Ohio State. Baylor, big win. Tennessee with an overtime win. Gamecocks just. Beamer ball. Was that two. Two defensive touchdowns. Back to back, back to back. It's just the offense sitting on the sideline being like, I guess we're just gonna win this game no matter what. And then clump. He is a. He's a Tennessee fan. He's a. He's a State of Tennessee fan. Tennessee Volunteers win. Vanderbilt blows out. Utah State got a little hairy in the first half. Second half, they blew it off, I think, too.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

A big takeaway from the weekend is like, you watch both the Big Ten and that. The heavyweight fights between the Big Ten, the sec. It's like the conference plays wide open.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You said watch Oregon, Penn State, both good football teams, but still, it's like nobody wasn't lopsided. You look at Illinois, take care of usc. And by the way, Illinois, that game shouldn't. That game was closer than what it should have been. Illinois should have won maybe by a couple scores the way that they were taking care of the football. But you, you look at, you look at. However everything's went down, Alabama is now just. They're fully back into the fold, taking down Georgia, Mississippi State, given Tennessee a run for their money. Like everything is wide open.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Everything's wide open. I agree with almost everything you said except for the Oregon Penn State game that I know it went to double overtime, but I felt like that game was controlled. 99.9% of the game was controlled by the Ducks. Like they just felt like they were.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

First half was pretty boring.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

They were moving the ball much better. They're converting more often. They seem very poised at Penn State. And the sky cam view every time it came in a commercial and you just see that sea of white and that whiteout going on at nighttime. It has got to be the most intense environment in probably all of college football. Yeah, got got to be. If not one, what? Two to Tennessee maybe because Tennessee gets loud too. But I've only been there for like a noon 3 o' clock game.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And so yeah, I guess I view it more from the lens of when I look at the Husker schedule and Penn State and USC on their. Both beat. Both those are both beatable games because I. Yeah, if there are like two big dog players, Oregon going into Penn State on a night game, whiteout and getting that W with a young football team like that speaks volumes. And then also Ohio State going out to Washington and take care of business against them because that quarterback was like the. Washington's quarterback has been like number one on like all the charts that come out Big Ten play. Quarterbacks, running backs, really good too. Supposed to be a student. Ohio State's defense is for real.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And in the first half, it might have been the first half. In the first drive of the second half for Washington, they were in the red zone three times, only came away with six points. They had two field goals. Yeah, and then one was either blocked or missed or something like that. So it was a lot closer. They end up pulling away in the end with Jeremiah Smith. Dude running reverts on everybody him having a little over giving the ball. It literally got the ball at the line of scrimmage and just ran it for 25 yards. No problem. Like, that kid is extremely special. Ohio State's legit dude there. That's a legit ball club. Patricia's doing a great job. Ryan Day is doing a good job keeping his boys all dialed in. So it's going to Be a fun1 that third week in November. Man, that'll be a fun game for sure. Let's talk about. Was it Friday night? Virginia FSU double over, double overtime, Fastest rush the field of all time. Like, have we seen an injury report on that wide receiver yet? We have.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Sounds like they all made it.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Cleared.

[Guest or Analyst]

He sounds like he made it out.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

He's cleared to play. Good.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Because when that happened, I was legitimately worried because again, you'll see, like these mosh pits and everything that happened at these concerts where people die and when they stormed the field. Yeah, yeah, AstroWorld. I saw those videos. And when I see that storming happen, I'm like, they're not even on their feet.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And you know, you know, some of these, like, students are getting a little rowdy and they. There's nothing. You know, throw a little boat. There's a lot of people. Maybe no one's gonna see it if I throw a little bow in this kid's chin real quick. So you never know. You never know what's going to happen. Got the helmet on, that chin's exposed. Buddy. As a guy who's been in a lot of football fights, I'm telling you, it's the crank, the face mask. And he got a lot of exposure in that throat area. A lot of exposure.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Man, I tell you, I hate the fake tough guyness when these fans are on the field and they got their phone out and they're like flipping off the players and quarterback knowing, like, nothing's really going to happen.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Legara Blunts out there. You gonna find out what happens.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, we need some Legera blunts back in this game.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

We need some blunts back in the game is what we need, dude.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Good composure, though.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, literally. Mufasa. Yeah, it was Mufasa and the water buffalo, man, I thought that kid was done for. I thought that kid was done. Now, there was an interesting situation that game. Devil overtime, Virginia scores and the coach sends out the pat. Go out there not knowing. In the second overtime, you got to go for two. The refs sit back and they go, hey, seems like just a little bit of a mix up. You guys go and come back out and they'll put that. Obviously they have the field goal, but Norvell is over on the other side.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Freaking out because losing his mind.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I mean, if you don't know the rules, you should use. There should be a penalty for not knowing the rules. And they just reset the game clock. They hit up one of those, hey, game clock, put it back up, no problem. So Is there an issue with Virginia and their head coach not understanding overtime rules?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Well, yeah. He should have been losing his mind. It should have been a penalty. It should have been something. I don't know what, like, the rule book says, but also, I do want to give a shout out and hats off to the ACC conference for allowing people to listen into the reviews. That's one thing I got to enjoy while I'm sitting there on Friday where you're, like, in the war room, you're in the headset with the referees breaking down, like, when they're reviewing calls and they're all, like, making sure, all right, are we all aligned? That this is what we see?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Everybody?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yep, yep, yep. All right. Then they go out there, make the call and everything else. That was cool. I would love to see that with every conference.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Another shout out to the acc. I don't know how good the conference actually is compared to other conference play, but it might be the most open conference in college football right now.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Dude, I think they're all pretty open. Like, Big Ten. You got Ohio State and Oregon, like, you know, until something happens there.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

What I mean, Michigan beat. Beat Ohio State four years in a row, and we got a very favorable schedule up until Ohio State, Ohio State.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Michigan and Oregon at the top of the Big Ten. But I feel like every conference is pretty wide open, even the Big 12, dude, Big 12, ACC, SEC, SEC. Like, teams are beatable, man. We got a huge one coming up this weekend with Vandy and Alabama. Yeah, man, like, the way Bama. And hats off to the staff. Like, we talk about the Bama game for a second. Bama, Georgia. But hats off to that staff. It's like, you know, we're sitting there watching the game. Number one, by the way, I know Hubbard had the effort, plays number 18, that backer for Bama. That's a good ballplayer. That's a great ballplayer. But what I loved about Bama is when something would happen, the coaches, like, kind of like running onto the field telling their guys that forget about that play. Like a double, move that eight or number one for Georgia hit, and Georgia ends up scoring. Coaches immediately running the field come back here, like, and the coordinator, head coach are saying, that's on us. That's on us. That's on me. You love to see that rallying effort. You could tell it was a full team effort coming into Georgia, like, we're going to win this game. We're going to get hit in the mouth a couple times. There's going to be a Couple moments of adversity. The coaching staff, the way that they've bounced back since week one, I think it speaks volumes for that, for that football team. Because Bama is tough. They're back in the fold. Everybody thought they were dead. Myself included.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Massive red flag. They're one and five. Unless their last six true road games. Can they actually go in and beat the Georgia Bulldogs? They controlled the clock. They kind of did what they needed to do to win that game. And I just, I feel like watching the staff too. Like in any bad moment, DeBoer and the whole staff is out there on the field. Come back to the sideline, just minimizing any damage possible. Not standing there, be like, fuck it.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Truly.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Was that.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

All right, next play. Like, yeah, that one's done. Next play.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It's really cool too, that. I mean, it just shows how much of Joe's we all are at this point. Because we get after week one, after Florida State and we sit there and we're like, you know, we talk. There's boosters talking about kids are out till 2am getting Uber Eats. Maybe girls are ripping around those types of things. It seems like they gave them a little bit of a leash and they've taken a mile. As opposed to the Nick Saban era where like anything you messed up on your teach for endlessly. And so we sat there after week one, you're in the. We're thinking to ourselves, the Cribs and Titus Pro are probably dead. Fast forward four weeks. Essentially a month later. We're like, my God, they. They are. I mean, if you listen, they could probably be. They're probably the front runner of the sec besides Vanderbilt, which is crazy. Which is crazy.

[Guest or Analyst]

But other undefeated teams.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Yeah, I mean, commissioner said it on locker room this Wednesday. Maybe that loss early helps you figure out your weak points. The course correct course correction. You know, we locked in. We had to give Ty his time to throw. We did. And penalties were a minimum.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

So let me just go from Bama's dead. They're probably the front run of the SEC right now.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It's like love to overreact, but also, I mean, a lot can happen in four weeks. Yeah, but like Clump just said Oklahoma, like Matier, he's got hand surgery. He's out three to four to six weeks. Lsu.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

But let's see the team rally. Like Oklahoma's still undefeated.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Missouri, Missouri, Alabama just went to Georgia, who had the longest home win streak in college football and put on and were never down in the entire game. That's that's impressive where you go. Yeah. I mean, that seems like the team to beat now in the sec, obviously. Well, we can get another month, right? Another month goes by, another overreaction happens. But if I'm going to react on today, after I overreacted on Alabama a month ago, I. They're going. Yeah. Though that's. That's the top team in the SEC right now. True. Fair point. Fair point.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Virginia might be the best team in.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

The country, but yeah, over. If we're going over, Virginia might be the greatest team in the country.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

That might be the hardest stadium to play in.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Maybe. Maybe another Clemson assistant coach G. While we still have you on the mic, you do have a big game coming up this week. Vanderbilt, Kate McConnell.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Hate Week number two.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Cade McConnell, Hate Week. He's. He's one and oh, and hate weeks. The bus with the boys. He is Diego Pavia. 400 yards accounted for, six touchdowns. How we feeling?

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Obviously this one's going to be personal. I. I feel like it's going to be one of those. You let them do what they're going to do on the offensive side and we do what we did against Georgia. As long as we take care of business when we have the ball, it should be. It should be business as usual, bro.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You guys. Bama two just third down. You guys. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty incredible compared to weeks past.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

And so that's going to be. That was the tell last year against Vandy is they converted on third down. Kept us on the field. We got to flip the script.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Ty Simpson, I mean, you have to give him a lot of credit. Will brought this up quite a bit. The fundamentals.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Keeps the ball high.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Keeps the ball.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Keeps the ball up.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That's where you want it. Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Sets his feet well. Poison the pocket. Keeps the ball up here.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And delivers a strike.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Hey, he has.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Delivers a tight.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Will get pulled, but he doesn't have that lapse of like that long release.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Great fundamentals.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Keeps it forward, keeps it moving forward. Just like that. Gotta love that. Good ball player, strong ball.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

I text Cade when the game day thing got announced, I was like, bro, game day. That's so sick. He was like, yeah, if you make it down there, make sure you stay the whole time. We tend to clear him out these days, you know.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You know, V's feeling confident, man. Van's feeling so. And as they should be. They are undefeated. They've been putting up a shitload of points.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Possibly the team to beat in the sec.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Where. Yeah, where is Pavia, where is Pavi and the Heisman on a fanduel right now. Do we know? Pulling it up now, cuz again, 400 yards, six touchdowns. I mean he. Some battle.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

They got a next. They got a. A good stretch of games coming up though.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Good thing they they host 8th LSU 8 right now.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I thought Justice Hayes was 8th.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Zoom in on it.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No, he is not. Oof. Justice Hayes isn't even scrolling.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Scroll up who's at the top.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It's amazing what a bi week will do.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Dante Moore, OR 650. He had a good game out there in Happy Valley. Oh, die Simpson.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Crazy Bama stat that I think Josh Pate shared. That was the first game of the Caleb DeBoer era where they had less penalties than the other team, which is. Oh, good for them. Yeah. Really turning it around.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Discipline.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Need it this week because the Crimson die. They're gonna be fired up. They're gonna want that revenge. Sometimes it doesn't go your way a little bit, you start getting a little pushy, a little shovey.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

So I'm glad it's at home, I'll say that.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Would you be more. You'd be more nervous. Vanderbilt's selling them out now. They're selling out. That stadium now might be under construction.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You walk around Saturday mornings, bro. People rep in the Vandy gear traffic now.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, yeah, that is true.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

They got jerseys in the stands.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The one day of the week that there'd be no traffic in Nashville. So like on the weekends, on Saturday, maybe at the first part of Sunday. Yeah. But now it's. It's busy Vandy football around here. Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

The last time Vandy was five zero was I think 2008 and they finished the year seven and five. So that's what they're. That's the history they're trying to correct right now.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

God.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Tell you what, Coach Lee, man, he's good.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

He's a dog. Great coach Lane Kiffin got. Got it done. He beat lsu, but he did not cover. If you're Ole Miss, you take that as a loss, Will.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, I think if you're Ole Miss, he kind of has to take the accountability at some point. He told the world, take the over.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

So he has to take some accountability.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

You went on the show, looked me in the face and said, LSU's offense is frauds. You were right about that. But he said, I'm taking the over because Lane Kiffin took it. So I took.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And here we go.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Once he tweeted the reply, take the over it's like, okay, like, don't even think, don't overthink this game. Don't even think about it. Just take the over.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

So he let a lot of people down. He did.

[Guest or Analyst]

And I'd be a man of his word.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Supposed to be.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And again, LSU's been on the. On the fraud list for your boy.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It seems like it's starting to finally come together. Whit Weeks got a little nervous, started throwing up right in front of his future father in law.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, I saw that. He just started puking.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Sorry. It looked like he tried to catch a mouthpiece or something that got a handful of his own vomit. It's like that hit the ground. You put that mouthpiece back in your mouth.

[Guest or Analyst]

When you know, you know that his hand just smells like now because of all the throw up that he just got all over.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I mean, pregame meal. Pregame meal is tough to settle on game day, man.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The jitters out.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah, Lane probably had him over. Not before.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, classic wedding crashers move. Eye droppers in the glass. Everyone sat down for prayer. Lane looked over. Great to have you, Weeks.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Great to have you over.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Should we bow our head in prayer? Got his ass. That was big.

[Guest or Analyst]

Did y.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That was big for Lane.

[Guest or Analyst]

Have you all seen or like been watching their quarterback, Ole Miss. Trinidad Chambliss, stud D2 national. He was a D2 player, had no offers, went to Ferris State, D2 national champion, transferred to an SEC school and is now like top three in the Heisman voting. Like rush for 300 or threw for 300 yards and rushed for 100, I think. Damn. In like back to back games. Like, he's a stud and he was.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

The backup at the start of the season. Yeah, starter gets hurt, he's been in there. I don't know if this is true enough, but is a starter like healthy now? They're just like, hey, this is our guy.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah. I think Josh was saying on the locker room that like you have. If you have two quarterbacks, you have none. But like for Ole Miss, like, no, you have two quarterbacks because both guys are studs.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Studs.

[Guest or Analyst]

I think the other guys like Austin Simmons, he's a lefty and like can run. Yeah, he can run and he can fucking zip it.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Lefty, man.

[Guest or Analyst]

Sherm had a great stat earlier about how college football is pretty much one in the portal now. And then them saying that about what?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What was the stat prior to this week?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

The top seven ranked portals leading into the season where it combined 270 going into this week.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No way.

[Guest or Analyst]

20 top seven portal classes or 27 0. It's one in the portal.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Check it out. Dabo.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Yeah. Take a peek in the portal.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Dabo.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

God bless, man. Do we want to talk about A M Auburn?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, dude. A M's undefeated since what, 2016? First time I started.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

4.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Is it 4 050? What week we on?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

This is going to be the fifth week of the season, correct? Week five. Week five of college football. Week five. Yeah, it's. It's impressive.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. A M in the sec, right?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, Possibly. Possibly a team to beat.

[Guest or Analyst]

Well said.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Is Hugh Freeze. Is he on hot seat? Hot seat alert. Hugh Freeze.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

They've looked good against these good opponents.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Is the only crazy thing. I mean, they damn near beat Oklahoma if it wasn't for losses.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Are two top five teams all right?

[Guest or Analyst]

They got to keep their receiver. They have arguably like the best receiver in the sec.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

There's rumors about him going to Michigan. Yeah, I've heard that. Have you heard that? Sure. There's a lot of chatter around. Yeah, that is a lot of Alabama guys as well. They see Justice Hayes up there. Like, maybe I should get the out of here. I'm just reporting the news. I'm just reporting the news. Don't give me that look, G. A.

[Guest or Analyst]

M does look good though.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I was doing that stream, brother. I was just in there like, I'll take that guy. Can you put that guy.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Sherman, can you bring up the. The conferences right now? Sec because again, another sneaky game was Tennessee going into OT against Mississippi State. We got to watch the end of that game with old Jack and she's cooking.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah, I mean, scary game. And Tennessee just came out flat. Had the muff fumble off the punt, but they stayed in it. Defense played really strong. Chris Razzle and Joey Football are some of the best duo quarterback receiver in the country. Joey Aguilar is currently leading the SEC in total yards and passing yards and touchdowns. Chris Brazil is leading the country and receiving touchdowns and second receiving yards. He's very much in the running for the Belinda cough, which is promising. But yeah, when you go down to Starkville on ranked Mississippi State, their best win of the season's ASU, which they were what, like 24 or something when they beat them 20, it. If you don't feel positive, you don't feel as good as you want to coming on an SEC road game. But still like the SEC is the SEC just like the Big Tens, the Big Ten. And like a road win is big, especially in a loud environment like Starkville. So yeah, I think, I think they are good. I think they don't get enough credit. And the AP poll definitely won't give Tennessee enough credit for that. We have not moved in the rankings in three straight weeks.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The AP poll is. It's just. I feel like it's louder and louder or that it's just a fraud.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, there's. There's been more. It's been more vocal than ever on how shitty it is.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Wait till like two more weeks from now to start doing that.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

They just need to adopt the commissioner's poll. Josh Pate, Josh Bates Commissioner's poll.

[Guest or Analyst]

But yeah, scary game, fun game if you're not, you know, sweating it out. But yeah, the ap.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

The good news is you gotta win.

[Guest or Analyst]

Necessary.

Gotta win.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, you gotta win. And you have a lot to correct, which is awesome.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah, the AP pole feels like Arkansas, which revenge game. And then Bama.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

So is Arkansas in a buy as well?

[Guest or Analyst]

I'm not sure if they're on a buy this week.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

We got to find out about that because Sam Pitman, he just got fired.

[Guest or Analyst]

Arkansas needs a buy.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Arkansas needs something.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

And didn't they get rid of him?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Who? Patina? I think he still there. No, no, no. Or Petrino.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Petrino before Sam Pit.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Correct. Yeah, I have the inside.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

They're about to sneak him back in. I'm already done. So.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Fun fact. Went to high school with the girl.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

That was on the back of Petrino's motorcycle.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

You did little fun fact.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Fun fact.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Wow.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Shout out.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Alito, Texas.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I, I, dude, staying on the AP poll, I do feel like in my heart of hearts, I feel like people are trolling as these voters. I feel like they're not being serious. Like, it almost reminds me of the Madden ratings and how they kind of. They kind of gyp you on some Madden ratings just to get everybody talking. I feel like that's what the AP poll is becoming.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Or these, these voters just aren't watching all the games. They aren't. Joel.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Clyde's very vocal about some things and.

[Guest or Analyst]

He hates Tennessee with all this art.

I feel like the AP poll, like, it's people who, for lack of a better term, don't know ball. I feel like it's the personalities that are, like, talking about the game and, like, are announcing the games and who are actually physically watching the games should be the. Should be like the AP poll. It shouldn't be these, like, news writers that are.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, bus with the boys should definitely get a couple votes that are basically.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Admitting that they're not watching these games.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah, because I'm, I'm like, obviously Josh Bate should be. The commissioner should be like, he should vote for the AP poll. Like Joel Cl. Like those guys who are watching the games and like announcing, like Kirk Herbstrey, like they should be. They should be giving the rankings and stuff because like they're physically there doing film study, watching the games, announcing the games like they know it better than these ap.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And love the sport.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yes.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Love the league.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

This guy has Penn State at number three after losing to Orton.

[Guest or Analyst]

It's just a useless poll because it doesn't do anything for anybody.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

At any point. Because when the playoffs come around, like, they don't go off the AP pole. It's really just like a seven week playground poll that nobody takes serious. And every single one of them should lose their jobs.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Boycott, not interact.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, it is, it is very interesting, the AP poll. You have three AP voters that all.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Had Penn State at number three after.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Their game against Oregon.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Are they alumni?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

None of them are alum.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I can't wait to. The CFP stuff starts coming out, bro. Like the playoff stuff.

[Guest or Analyst]

Bracketology about to be crazy.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, we're in a great year.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I love great year for college football. Yes. There's no doubt about it. Also, let's give a round of applause to Illinois. Got absolutely smacked versus Indiana comes in. Everyone's talking about usc. They got an amazing. Their quarterback's incredible. The running backs, awesome. They have this Lemon kid out here who's like probably a top 10 pick and like, oh, they're gonna roll all over him. And Illinois was able to do anything they wanted the entire game. They own the line of scrimmage. Luke Altmire, he was throwing for it, he was running for it. He was doing everything he possibly needed. The score, I mean, obviously came down to a last second field goal, but Brett Bielema and that and that team looked like, like Wisconsin, an old Brett Bielema, Wisconsin team. So shout out to them, man. Seems like USC might also be on fraud alert right now.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Could be. Or they could have just traveled to the Midwest and just got punched in the mouth maybe.

[Guest or Analyst]

Hopefully they're playing a pissed off team too.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, yeah, no doubt. You think after a score like that and watching. I went back and watched Illinois, Indiana, and it wasn't like a lot of ball, like a lot of bounces didn't go their way. Like they just got the shit kicked out of them for like 60 whole minutes. So you watch that, you think it's over.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, because there was one at the, toward the end of the game where Illinois is going in a score, they fumble the ball in the end zone. USC gets in that kind of, you know, it's USC's alive. They could still win this football game. And then even, you know, in the, the middle eight, the last four, the first half, first four, the second half, like Illinois, I think was in position to go 21:10 going in a halftime and getting the ball, but a turnover happened or I forget exactly what happened to our usc then goes down, gets in the end zone to make it closer than it was. Like again, Illinois was. If you're, if you're watching that game from start to finish, like Illinois was clearly the better football team on that day. On that day, the Illini came out swinging.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Do we, before we go to NFL, do we feel like the Notre Dame Fighting Irish might be back on track?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Oh, yeah. They had to win out. And they also have to have the rest of like the other teams they play work for them a little bit. Right. Because you lose those two games to Miami and Texas A and M. The Texas A and M game is so tough because they probably should have won that game. That last second play, there was a holding that didn't get called.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

But main C.J. carr. Yeah, it seems like he's doing it. Jeremiah, Jeremiah Love. Like, he's like what? Four touchdowns, 158 yards. That was my Heisman pick. I thought it was dead last week. Here we are this week. I feel like I'm in a good spot every week. Yeah. Jeremiah Love. Heisman got a beat.

[Guest or Analyst]

October is when football starts.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Spooktober is when football starts. And we are here, boys. God, we're here. Which by the way, I'm wearing the merch right now. G once again, [e-mail] Got this hat. Got this. Do you want to show some of the stuff? Sure. Before we get to NFL.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, just give me a minute.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Oh, you know what? Hey, Will's got it back.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The spasms could come at any moment.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I got you, buddy. I got you. All right, let's take a peekski at some of these things we got here for. This is, this is a nice one right here. Go and read that one out, Willie.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Gridiron graveyard. Got a little skeleton holding the football. The final down, busting with the boys. Got the little bus in the back. Got some electricity going around. I like this shirt. Very great looking shirt.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

If you're watching, if you're listening on audio, don't even just go to bwtb. You'll be able to see it. Incredible stuff. Next one on the list, a fun one for everybody. Little callback.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

This one says nothing, Just chilling, killing. Oh, in white. Got the orange font on it. For those who are just listening to this podcast. Great looking shirt. This is how you embrace this.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Another one. If you don't like it in white, we got it in black. Black and orange. The colors are spooked over.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

That one says nothing, just chilling, killing in orange font on a black tee.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And this is if you're. If you're looking for a cute ass Booktober shirt of the week right here.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, you gotta. You got a father pup with a little. With his little baby pup. And the little baby pup, he's wearing a little ghost costume and he's holding a little. He's on a little pumpkin. What are those called? Little pumpkin balls. For the candy. Yeah, he's holding a little pumpkin candy carrier. There you go for the dads. Underneath, they're out with the moon shining. Little half moon. Yeah, very nice.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Crescent moon.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Crescent moon.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Crescent moon. Yes, very nice. So new spooktober stuff, that stuff is coming out Wednesday, if you're wondering. Wednesday, I'm assuming 10am it's always 10am Central Time. Always. I gotta cough. Hold on. All right. We feel good, boys. You want to read some ads before.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We go to NFL? We just got to shout out a little bit of Big 12 talk. Rocco backed Iowa State beating the breaks off of Arizona. Them coming up to visit.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Don't know who called that, but he's sitting on this bus. Cincinnati looking tough.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Look tough.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Big win over Kansas. Who else in the old Big 12 right now? Arizona State.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Arizona State look good. Sam Levitt, dude, he was out there putting, hitting, hitting circle button on everybody. Couple spin moves, dicing them up a little bit. Looked real nice.

[Guest or Analyst]

Utah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Utah back on track.

[Guest or Analyst]

Utah smacked West Virginia. West Virginia might.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

They did. But again, Texas Tech.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Texas Tech smack. Utah. Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia. Houston's 4 0. He was my coach at Michigan.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Houston sneaky.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Don't forget that. Rich Rodriguez is my coach.

[Guest or Analyst]

You know, the, you know, the quarterback for Houston is that Connor Wegman guy. He's like, let me get my shoe back, bruh.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That's right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Oh, we remember a shoeback Wegman.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

He's hot right now.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

He got that shoe back.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

He got that shoe back. All right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Potty break for some ads.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

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[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

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[Malcolm Gladwell]

Malcolm Gladwell here. I recently recorded the first episode of Smart Talks with IBM where I learned how AI agents are joining AI assistants as a major productivity tool. Let's start with AI agents. AI agents can reason, plan and collaborate with other AI tools to autonomously perform tasks for a user. Brian Bitzel, an expert from IBM, gave me an example of how a college freshman might use an AI agent.

[IBM Expert or Julian Edelman]

As a new student, you may not know how do I deal with my health and wellness issue? How many credits am I going to get for this given class? You could talk to someone and find out some of that, but maybe it's a little bit sensitive and you don't.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Want to do that, bissell told me. You could build an AI agent, a resource for new students that helps them navigate a new campus, register for classes, access the services they need, and even schedule appointments on their behalf, which in turn buys them more time to focus on their actual schoolwork.

[IBM Expert or Julian Edelman]

We can see patterns of how agents and assistants can help employees and customers and end users be more productive, automate workflows so they're not doing certain types of repetitive work, work over and over again and streamlining their lives and making data more accessible to them 24 hours a day.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

To learn more about IBM's AI agents and how they can help your business, visit IBM.com agents.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yes. Thank you, Steelers, for showing up over in. What was it?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Ireland.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Ireland. Brazil.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

On the other side, on the not America side, y' all showed up for the first time all year. Ran the ball for more than 75 yards. Interesting how a run game can get it done, huh? Interesting.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. I was gonna say shout out. Kenneth Gainwell, man, he had 99 yards, two touchdowns on the ground. They had a run game. DK Metcalf came alive. You saw some vintage Aaron Rodgers ripping a slant over the middle to DK Metcalf as he runs away from the entire defense. Defense showed up a little bit, causing a couple picks.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Couple picks.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Balls.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. A lot of conversation around DK Metcalf. Somebody on this bus said that DK wasn't getting a lot of separation.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yes, myself.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Wow.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Compton.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And they run the ball and look what happens. Ends up being separation because the run made with the pass helps a lot of ways. That's what Arthur Smith wants to do. By the way, let's give a quick shout out to Arthur Smith. The man looks incredible with that mustache, wearing the all black. Did you guys see him? He's looking like a seasoned vet right now. He is definitely in his Russ Grimm era right now.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Just wait for him on the sideline.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Poise Aaron Rodgers. A lot of question marks around him. Is he too old? Is he looking at the rush? The guy crushed it all day long.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

You see that block he had?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yes, bro.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No, I didn't.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Lit that boy up.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Lit that boy up, huh?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Put it through his body in there.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

It was nice.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Was he 42.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. 42 years old.

[Guest or Analyst]

Outside of the game, you'll see the story about Skyler Thompson, the Steelers backup on Friday night. Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No way.

[Guest or Analyst]

What are you doing? One going out, I guess by yourself in Dublin, Ireland.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

A bunch of mini McGregor's walking around there.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

But ever since Conor got the double belt, Ireland's got a little cocky with their fighting skills.

[Guest or Analyst]

Tough look.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Tough look. Got the dub. Yeah. Tough look. The thing you gotta love the Creatine Caucasians.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Let's give them a round of applause.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Hard launch of the Creatine Caucasians out in New York. Nobody thought they could do it. Nobody.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No one. Not even us?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, not even us.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

We just thought it was a fun story.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

It's like Jackson Dart, he could. He could bring some juice, but the dude is an absolute maniac. Did you see him that third down? Running head, beautiful. Running through a. And then not only that, thinking he just throwing basically a fist at the db. I loved every second of it.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I love it. To me, that play. Style of four quarterback, not very sustainable in the NFL.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

No.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Gonna throw your body around like that. But to start it off.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yes.

[Guest or Analyst]

It gets those people.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yes.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Look, going into this game, it was, hey, what do the Giants need from Jackson Dart? And the whole thing was show life, show a spark. You take Jackson Dart, mix them up with Cam Scatter. Boo. And boys, you've got juice, you've got creatine, you got Caucasians, you got energy in that building.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I saw a comment to people that I was. I was having a nice little giggle at where it's like a Cam Scatterbo. Sounds like he didn't know how to tie his shoes until he was in seventh grade. That's how he loves his running back. I thought I got a nice chuckle.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Out of that dude. The thing that. And also like that defense went off yesterday, that defensive line, I mean, Thibodeau, Brian. Brian Burns. Brian Burns, like Dexter Lawrence had himself a pick like Sexy Dex. He kind of got after a little bit. It's awesome for the Giants to see a little bit of life. They get themselves another W. And they have to go to the Saints next week, which is. You have to assume the Giants are probably going to win that game. The only team that's probably worse than the Saints is our beloved Titans right now. But if you're the Chargers, you are. You're in a really tough spot because you have a good ball club. But you lose Rashawn Slater during camp to a broken leg, Joe Alt goes down with them. Assuming some Sort of ankle. Hopefully it's not a high ankle, but like, you gotta assume he's gonna miss a couple of weeks there and then who is. Buddy, who played for the Eagles last year, won it, was drafted by the jets, went to Louisville, Makai Becton, he gets hurt as well. So now you have a second and third string tackle playing as your bookends. I mean, Herbert was running for his life. He got hit 14 times in this game. That is not a sustainable move for even like a guy with Jim Harbaugh. Like, their defense is going to be really good, but you got your tackle. So like that some stud tackles and Chiefs. Chiefs look fantastic.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

They might be good again.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, they're good again, man. It's like as much as things change, they also stay the same.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And the Chiefs, they might be good again, Buddy.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

They're good again.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Listen, the Ravens, they're, you know, they got some shit to figure out.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

They got some shit to figure out. They do. They really do. But I think the Chiefs are good again.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Might be good again.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And if we can't protect Herbert top five quarterback, we're in trouble.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, Broncos, they still got to play tonight. I love the Broncos in this spot right here against the Bengals. So we'll see.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It's been a weird week, though.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

It's been a weird week, dude. Any given Sunday, I mean, you look at the Packers, Cowboys last night, overtime ending a tie, which everybody was saying that.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

We were on ESPN and everyone's like, they're going to get boat race. We're saying it's going to be a bloodbath.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Everybody in the world was saying that the packers are going to boat race the Cowboys. We might have overreacted. Not might have. We overreacted on how good the packers can be because they clearly got some holes right now. I mean, Dak Prescott, he is absolutely him. Yeah, you know them just operating that way offensively without CD lamp Pickens out there, just being a dog. Yeah, but Dak looked amazing.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Turpin was out there going off like they. Their run game was incredible. The game plan they had for Micah Parsons, you need to copy and paste that. Who, if I don't know who the packers play next, but whoever's playing the packers next, you need to copy and paste that game plan. Running away from Parsons, hitting with the sift when you had to throw the ball, you're rolling away a little bit, you're chipping, you're sliding towards him. I mean, the guy had very little success during the game. He ends up getting a sack that would have been a go ahead touchdown. And it's kind of like, yeah, I think we overreacted on the Packers a little bit after Week one. And it's like, you look at the NFC north, and it's like, oh, the Lions, I mean, they. They're just killing everybody right now. And it's like they just needed a week.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

They showed you that week one didn't matter.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, they showed you. And it's like, give credit to Eberfluss a little bit. They still got a 40 burger put.

[Guest or Analyst]

On them, but, like, defense still sucks.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

However, you see the effort in them disguising a couple of blitzes here and there. They mixed in a little bit more, man. Like, they tried. They still suck. They're not very good. But you got to give a little credit than just doing the same thing over and over and over again.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

They're not giving up. They're still trying.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Not giving up. Because there were. They were. They were flying around. And, I mean, Jordan Love still diced him up a little bit, but it wasn't as. As easy as it had seemed in the last couple of weeks.

[Guest or Analyst]

Jordan Love had 175 yards in the first half.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Like I said, it wasn't as easy as we thought it was going to be. And Dak Prescott, like, that had to be one of Dak Prescott's best games of his life. I don't know. I don't care about what the stats are. If the stats match. He's a baller. But you're down. CD Lamb, you're down. Tyler Booker, you're. You're missing a lot of guys tackle.

[Guest or Analyst]

Too, or another offensive lineman.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, it's like. But he just still went out there and did his thing.

[Guest or Analyst]

I think Dak has had those games before, though.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, he has.

[Guest or Analyst]

Like, it was one of his best ones. But I feel like he just gets so much unnecessary hate, and every single year he brings it.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Yeah. This is one of the better ones because again, coming in this game, you come off a very bad loss of the Browns. You knew the packers were going to be pissed off. Homecoming for Michael Parsons is like, there's just. There's no way that the packers are going to lose this game. And for him to put up 40 and him perform the way he did. Absolutely. And two, it's like people want to know who won the trade. When you say everybody won the trade. Like, all Jerry Jones needed. Like, you saw the life of both teams after that tie was over. You know, their Cowboys kind of, you know, a few more Smiles like to them that that tie was a dub for them, right? Packers, it's like they're sitting there, they're fucking. God damn. I can't.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, maybe we're not as good as we thought we were.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And, and, and Micah, he. He had that one sack, but it was kind of like a chase tackle on Dak. But for that to happen, that to go down that way, you know, Jerry's like. I think he even said after the game, it's like he made a comment on paying Dak over Micah. You see tonight, my. Or Dak Prescott, he's indispensable. Micah, not so much. Not so much. It was something like that. I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like that.

[Guest or Analyst]

You see the promo before the game that they rolled. Like the, the thing with Jerry Jones, he's like, you know, I want the best for Micah. He's a great guy. Like, we have a great relationship. It's like a one on one interview. Then it kites to cuts to Michael Parson. He goes, I didn't even get a text from Jerry Jones when I got traded. I was like, dang, this is some freaking WWE storyline.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

How do we feel about ties?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

About who ties?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Oh, ties in the NFL. Get him out of here. Yeah, I have to take a long walk off a short period.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I see a shitload. Like, I want to see that game be like 65, 62.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Like score until you can't anymore. Let's get to some college football rules.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

College football rules. Or just start them at the 50. Like, hey, the red zone's a little too easy. It's gonna skew a bunch of stats. And everyone's so good in the NFL. Like, okay, start with the 50. So, you know, you're for the most part gonna walk away with points. Especially with these kickers are kicking it nowadays.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, they're making those.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

That's like a 60 something yard.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And make it. Yeah, make it college rules after that. Like put 50. You score 3k touchdown wins it. 3 gets another overtime. Shut the clock off, start going for two. Right?

[Guest or Analyst]

Is. Is tying the most embarrassing result?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, not if you're the Cowboys. I think that is the best result you could have asked for. I don't think. I mean, they could have obviously won that game, but no one ever thought the Cowboys were even going to stand a chance. Especially when it's, you know, they score a touchdown, they end up blocking a kick and getting two points off of it. But at some point, like the first half, we're like, oh, they're about to run away with it. We were all right, here we go. And if you're the Cowboys getting that tie, it's like they got to feel good.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. A tie is just a weird headspace. It's like, you didn't lose. You didn't win. You know what we doing. Yeah. You don't know how to feel.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Go back to that last year talk.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You had a waste of a game.

[Guest or Analyst]

You just did all of that effort. You had all of those hits put on you for what?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, my brain doesn't work well enough to understand, like, how ties affect standings and stuff like that.

[Guest or Analyst]

It's. I think it's so dumb.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It's dumb. We got to move on. Put them on the 50. College rules.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

This one's from Kyle Green, KG0720. Hashtag tear talk. If Jerry gets a deal done with Micah, it's arguable the Cowboys are 4040-team to start this early NFL season. That's false, Kyle.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That is very false, Kyle. That defense is so bad. I know Mike is a stud, but one.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, one pass rusher is not going to.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, you.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You don't end up. You're not four now.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You saw Schottenheimer, the way he was able to game plan Micah. Like, teams can do that. You can get one guy and say, all right, we're done with him. Look at the Raiders. I mean, name another guy on the Raiders Divas besides Max Crosby. Max Crosby is a. Was a man on a mission the first half of the game.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The tip and then the pick.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yes. I mean, Max is incredible. Incredible. I think we're getting to a point. The Raiders like, hey, can we not waste this man's talent? We need to get him one. We got to get him one. Because there's too many picks, too many fumbles. So much on the off side of the ball. Shout out Ashton Jenty.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Shout out Ashton Jenty. Coming out. Party.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Coming out. Party.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Touchdowns. Old stance.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, the old stance is all he needed.

[Guest or Analyst]

I was going to say. Some are saying he's back to his stance and now he's.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

He's back.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

He's back to Genty.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Kind of the Will Compton stance.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

It's.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It's similar.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

If he just stood back there and.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Got him bowed out, the flex would be hilarious.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We got a tear talk on ties from El Guo with the hashtag tear talk, tear talk, ties honorable mention, the bow tie. Tier 3, the 2002 MLB Allstar Game tie. Thanks, bud. Selig cig Tier 2 the 2008 Eagles vers Bengals tie Donovan McNabb didn't know was even possible Tier 1 the tie fighter from Star Wars. Hashtag tier talk thank you El Guapo.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

El Guapo. Thank you. Thank you Aguapo. Very sweet.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

There another honorable mention Washington Redskins and Cincinnati Bengals back in 2016 London ended.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

In a tie 23 I luckily never had to be a part of a tie Gene Daniels at Gene Daniels 24 can at Taylor177 take some of his Vegas winnings and get us a wide receiver in the portal at Umich Football is almost back. I agree Gene and luckily luckily for you vlog.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

That'd be a funny vlog.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Busing with the boys just gave $50,000 to Michigan's Nil fund. So we've contributed he's like we've contributed.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

This trip to Vegas is for the nil collective of Michigan.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Shout out Gene. But yeah man I think the Cowboys need to be happy about that result. That's awesome. If you're the packers everything was in your favor. You're playing the worst defense in the NFL. You just lost had a bad loss against a bad Browns team and it's like everyone's pissed off. Everyone wants to show you have and you still tie. That's tough man.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Hey Jackie boy. Titans man Was it 26 nothing?

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah there's no before before.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Before you say anything about the Titans I want to point out the Patriots Mike Vables Patriots won 42:13 against the Panthers. Okay Titans.

[Guest or Analyst]

So no prepared statement the Titans are miserable. This is probably the worst franchise we've ever had in the history of the Titans organization. Kwart said it best keep it a buck. We're ass they gotta fire Callahan. He's right. Now this will come out at 2 so 30 minutes prior to this at 1:30 Callahan has a scheduled press conference as he does every week. I I don't even think they're gonna fire him which is crazy. But yeah, we're just at the point where yesterday might have been one of the worst NFL games in the history of the league. I mean until the third quarter neither the Houston Texans or the Tennessee Titans got to the red zone. Obviously Houston turned it on the fourth quarter but it's just embarrassing. It's not fun to watch after you finish Titans games at noon 90 of your soul doesn't want to watch another game but you still you push through because you put a couple bets in on fanduel shout out to Fandel Source but yeah Titans are miserable and everyone knows in the league. It's by far. We're the 32 of 32 teams in the league, so we'll see. I don't really have much else.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You just need an Impromptu, you guys versus the Saints, Titans versus Saints and just see who's getting the 1 pick. Yeah.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What are your, what are your thoughts on the Titans? I mean, you were a cornerstone in this place.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. I mean they don't have a competitive team. They, they got too many holes everywhere. That doesn't seem like there's a whole account, a whole lot of accountability other than the quarterback right now. Situationally, they don't handle it very well. I think, you know, you have the two minute in the first game against the Broncos and it didn't like go the way Callahan wanted to go. And so now there's a level of like, I don't know what to do when I'm on the 50, 45 going in. And he's second guessing himself quite a bit. You got me, you got. Latham's hurt. You got, one of your running backs is hurt. Your veteran wide receiver. You paid $90 million, set some uncharacteristic drops 92 million. It's just, it's really being a part of teams that have been in the position of, you know, being one of the worst teams in the NFL. It's hard, man. And do I think Callahan is a long term, there's a long term coach of the Titans. I don't, I don't think he seems very overwhelmed. That franchise in general seems very overwhelmed. It's a top, bottom thing. It starts with the ownership that has to essentially, if I'm, if I'm the Titans and I'm Amy Adams drunk and if everything's going the way it seems like it's going to go with Callahan, where he doesn't have a job by the end of the year or at the end of the year. If I'm Amy, I'm not releasing a lawyer press conference. Hey, we've decided to part ways. Want to appreciate Callan for everything he's done for this franchise. I would essentially do a selfie video and say, listen, I made a mistake. This is my team. I hired the wrong guy. I would essentially throw Callahan under the bus and be like, the fans deserve better. Here we go. If I'm, this is, this is strictly. If I'm Amy, if she does a video or just does a video in general. Like if you're as a g. As a Titans fan. Jack. If you're a Titans fan and Amy doesn't have to be a selfie video. She sits there and she's like, I want to speak to the Titans fans. We've let you down. Are you guys feeling a whole lot better about your ownership taking accountability?

[Guest or Analyst]

I mean, maybe 1% better, but 1%, say 1% every day will not do that. She's kind of a coward and every Titans fan knows that. She probably will not even address she, no, this isn't even a joke. Like, Damie Adams will not address the Brian Callahan firing. When it inevitably happens, she will have someone else do it. And this is how it's always been. And that's why a lot of people, if you go online, are saying, sell the franchise. Because the ownership, like you said, it starts from the top down and it's miserable. It's like in the 25, 26 years I've been a Titans fan, this is the worst organization that has been run, operated and being like, I can't imagine some of these players where it's like you hear all the outside noise and you just see how pitiful it is and how, you know, the lack of motivation it is to go in today and be like, hey, this is going.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

To be the week.

[Guest or Analyst]

We're gonna go and show the Cardinals.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What we're gonna do.

[Guest or Analyst]

Come to the live show or the tailgate.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

We'll have fun at that. We'll have fun with that. I'll say this man, like Wizen Hunt, 2 and 14, 3 and 13 wasn't great. It ended up getting turned around. It ended up getting turned around. So if you're a Titans fan, there is you. You've had history, patches of success where it can turn around and get better. Do I, do I think Kelly is a guy I really don't know if I'm him. I need a lot more guys in my ear who's telling me situationally what's going on so I can focus on it. He gives up play calling. Last week, it obviously didn't turn out very good, but you've got, you've got a first overall pick that is showing a lot of potential and you just, truly, from a roster standpoint, you don't, you don't have the horses to get it done right now. You don't. And so this year's a wash. It is what it is. Feel good about having the first, you know, a top three pick in this draft and let's, hey, let's get optimistic. It's not great right now, but it could be.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And we've seen the last couple, though like, if this year's a wash, last year is a wash, this year's a wash.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right, I understand. Yeah. 2014 was a wash. 2015 was what? Boom. 2016. 9 and 7. 17. 9 and 7. 18. 9 and 7. You know, like, you start to get in a position of being successful, guys just got to learn how to win again, man. It's hard. It's tough. And when you lose a shitload, it's kind of like you don't really know what to do. It's like kind of just kind of becomes you for a second, and all it takes is one little spark. You get a win. It's like, oh, there's a little bit of confidence. Keep it moving.

[Guest or Analyst]

With this new stadium opening up, they got to turn it around quick.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No doubt.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Amen.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I'm not taking away from the amounts of pressure that is happening around Nashville and what they need to do in order to have this 2027 look a whole lot better than it's looking right now.

[Guest or Analyst]

Get Jon Guden in here.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Do you think John Gruden would take the job right now? No.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

If he has a top three pick, maybe.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

You got a lot more holes than that, man. It's just tough.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You know who else sucks, though? The Saints. The Saints. The Bills played him over the weekend. I don't know if you knew that.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I didn't know that until the 4th. Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Honestly, it was close until the 2nd.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. I mean, that's. I think that's Josh Allen's MO at this point.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Maybe the Saints don't, like, suck suck, but just trying to get us, you know, on a different vibes are getting really low.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

It was more of a therapy session.

[Guest or Analyst]

They were in the red zone. Saints were in the red zone a bunch. They just could never get the touchdown. But it was close up until, like.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

Halfway through the fourth quarter.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. And then Josh Allen kind of took over, started running the ball a little bit.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

That move he had in the middle.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Nice, man. That's that. I was saying, though, that's Josh Allen's M.O. like, he's kind of had, like, an average to slightly below average defense, and he's just been able to put points on the board no matter what. James Cook is cooking right now. He's doing his thing. Like, Josh is the real deal. The real that he's always gonna. They're gonna be contenders as long as he's the quarterback.

[Guest or Analyst]

Back to back.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Mvp, possibly.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I want to apologize for the audience bringing this back to the tides, but we do have a tear talk. Hashtag tear talk from slick. From slick rick 626. Do you trade your first round and second round pick to get an edge rusher or weapon for the Titans?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Jack?

[Guest or Analyst]

I, I, I don't know. No, no.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Just to defeated.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

He's just on who would it be like?

[Guest or Analyst]

And we just went over it with Michael Parsons. Like, one edge rusher is not going to change your franchise.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right, right. I mean, Jeff Clowny, I guess. Jeff, look, he had that one play, he swam over the center. That was unbelievable.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

They're saying fastest sack in NFL history.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

All right. That was incredible to see if we're talking optimism. If they do have the number one.

[Guest or Analyst]

Pick, they have a quarterback.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

So maybe they trade that number one pick, add some more pieces, get some equity. Yeah, maybe Optimism.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Optimism.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I mean, hurt clump. Yeah. Spend money. If you're the times ma', am, you're Amy. Get your checkbook out like you want this thing to go well, you got to spend money and get some cats and then get some people to put them in good positions. Noel Belcher at Noel underscore Belcher. Hashtag tear talk. A lot of dudes out right now. What are the worst injuries the boys had while playing acl? It's been a mainstay.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

PCL and breaking oil. The Liz Frank. The Liz Frank that I had.

[Guest or Analyst]

The PCL was nothing to you, though.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, I was out eight days. I was on the practice field after eight days. Put some, some stuff in the old knee.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

What was the most painful injury you had?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The foot by far. I thought somebody took a shotgun to the top of my arch.

[Guest or Analyst]

From this from barstool camp or from NFL?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We're playing the Vikings. We're playing the Vikings, bro. I remember it happening. I kind of like plant to go into a block and it just pow. And I like kind of crawled off on the side and doc camera, I was like, it's broken the entire arch. It snapped in half.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Diagnosed.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, I'm retiring. That one was painful. And I had this, I had this weird cyst on my tailbone that was.

[Guest or Analyst]

Pretty brutal from footballer.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I take from hygiene. The docs would be in there trying to pop and stuff and oh, that would be so painful. They'd have to numb it. So they had to put like whether it's like lidocaine, but even the needle like going up underneath to try and numb it. Oh, my God.

[Guest or Analyst]

Is that the one that's like, is that one that's like right above like your butt crack kind of.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got them take. I Got videos on my phone.

[Guest or Analyst]

Yeah, that's so. Like, my girlfriend's in PA school. That's kind of. You get that from kind of being dirty.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

It's more because I have a lot of hair on my ass. You know, this showering with me. I have a lot of hair on my ass.

[Guest or Analyst]

That's what it is. It's like. It's essentially just an ingrown. An ingrown hair that's just like, got infected.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

Just from kind of being dirty.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What do you know? My ass crack is dirty.

[Guest or Analyst]

That low back pinch is horrible, bro.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That's kind of gross, man.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, Trust me, I didn't want it.

[Guest or Analyst]

Terrible apparently, too.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yes. Dude, really?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Oh, yeah. All the. That comes out of that thing.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

You got a video for real?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I gotta see that video.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Not. Not one that's like, where, like, opens up and everything else, but one where basically all the trainers were all, like, laughing and stuff because it's like another visit I have to do where they're trying to pop. I'm like, I need you guys to pop this thing. Just in their ass. Tooted up.

[Guest or Analyst]

He's disguising the back spasms. He got another ingrown hair.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Do you want to talk about the Eagles at all? Your Eagles being undefeated still? Yeah, sure. Your boy Jalen Hurts. Zero completions in the second half, 0.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Passing yards, 0 completions, but also 0.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Losses in the last calendar year as of today, when Jalen Hurts has started a game and finished it. So I know we just. The Titan stuff was tough. As I'm sitting here thinking that the Eagles. I. I have not watched the Eagles lose a game of football. When Jalen Hurts started and finished in a year, it's kind of crazy to think about. So I don't care about the completions. I know A.J. brown might.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, it always feels like death taxes Eagles being undefeated and AJ Brown. Cryptic tweet coming out.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Cryptic coming out. Yeah, I mean, he. He had nine targets and only two catches for seven yards.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Look, until the Eagles lose, like, there's no. They're. They're winners, bro. It's like, hats off to Sirianni. He's a bonafide head coach right now. Like, I. I don't know. Like, there's. There's times where I'm like, man, this team is. They don't have a. It's not like they move the ball that well on offense, but then they do at the right times. Like, they win. They're 4, 0. I have. I have no clue. I put out a thought Last night to where it's like they just seem like this. This puzzle that you can't figure out. There's nothing to figure out or dissect until they lose.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. It kind of reminds you of, like, the Chiefs last year a little bit, how they just. No matter what, they just win. It's like, oh, yeah, they blocked. They did this, they did that. It's like they just win.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Right. But the Chiefs, though, there's never, like, now, this isn't like. There's never, like, this. This underlying feeling that there's something there that's going to come out eventually. Like, the Chiefs is like, they find ways to win. They've always been creative. Like, they've always figured it out. With the Eagles, I feel like there's just. There's something that's there that just hasn't came to the surface yet. And until it does, there's nothing to really say or talk about.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Because, like, zero completion, zero yards in the second. Say whatever you want about Jalen hurts, but he's. He's winning.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, he's winning.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

He got creative with the Tush push. Like, what, two touchdowns on some fake tush pushes?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I think that was first reported that was going to happen on the locker room. We talked about that this week.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Okay. Now that you have an unstoppable play, add a. Add a wrinkle to it. Shout out.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Jihad. Campbell dude is flying around.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Do you guys feel that same way, too? I feel like that's kind of my feeling, like there is something there, but I just. There's really. There's nothing you can say until they lose because they've, again, they haven't lost it a full calendar year. They're the reigning super bowl champs.

[Guest or Analyst]

Like, the Eagles are going to Eagle, and there's really nothing you can do about it. Yeah, like, nobody knows what that means. I don't even know what it means, but it's like, it's inevitable.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Great defense. Do you think Sirianni and his coaching staff know what that thing under the surface is that can hit them? That's why I got big.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You got big, Dom.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

They're just so creative with what they do. Like that block punt I went into the Bucs game, I'm like, oh, it's gonna be a tight one because Jalen hurts, I think, is 1 and 4 versus the Bucks. Bucks. Nick Sirianni. 1 and 4 versus the Bucks. And then they block that punt and return it for a touchdown, and it's just like, oh, yeah, never mind. The Eagles, like, Figure it out somehow, every way. But Buddy Baker still had a chance at the end of the game. I know Baker's great. I mean he was under a shitload of pressure and that was, that was a bad throw. But like, can't take away from what he's done these last four weeks, man. Three game winning drives. Had an opportunity to do it in this fourth game. Yeah, they were down. What was the score at half. They were getting body bagged. Yeah, it was, it was bad. A half. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was more than a two score game like. And Baker just still came out, continued to fight. Yeah, it's just.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And going off the Chiefs things last year, it's like, who do they got? Like they got Mahomes. You don't sit there with the way the kind of Eagles are squeaking them out. It's not like, oh, it's like no matter what, the trump card of everything isn't Jalen. It's just like you have no clue. It's just a team.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I mean Jalen is very, he's a conservative quarterback, takes care of the football, allows his defense to work for him, knows he has a good run game. Even though their run game hasn't been been as good as it could be. He knows he's got weapons at the wide receiver spot. So like, yeah, they're packing the box in but at the same time, like if you are, if you're a defense scouting them, it's like, yeah, their, their offensive production through the year hasn't been great. But they got Goddard, they got A.J. they got Devontae. Is it Devonte? They got Devonte Smith. Like John Dotson. Yeah, John Dotson. Like they have so many weapons. It's like even if you think, okay, they're not going to throw the ball on us, they could at any point. And that's what's scary. Ask the Rams last week, some dogs.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

On that defensive side. Yeah, Rams heavyweight bout. Rams, Colts, Stafford, late in the game. Yeah, I mean Colts, Colts are a good team, bro.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Colts are a good team. But I'll say this kind of saw the loss coming. Daniel Jones, before the season started, didn't even post on Instagram after last week. Posted his first time.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Oh no, Daniel.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Can't do it, man. You can't have, you can't go. And he put out a post. They're 3, 0. He said something about like having fun playing football. Very innocent. If you could pull that post up. But he had Nothing the first three weeks. And then all of a sudden they go 3 0. Was it the first or second drive? Throws a pick.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Oh, DJ tough dude.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I mean.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

I mean, they've won that game. That run just got called back.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

There it is, bro. There's the post.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Not.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

And then Stafford threw up the run, got called back.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Then incredible fumbles. The bones of the end zone just for his life. Going to dive on it, grabs it, kind of like looks around. He's. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, my God. Did like, did I get on this in time?

[Guest or Analyst]

I feel like the Colts may have lost that game rather than the Rams winning it.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

That's a fair point. But like, again, if you're a good team, you're going to take advantage of bad football, right? Stafford, two tutties in the last four minutes of the game. Like, doing Stafford things. Like, you got Devonte, you got Nakua Puka. Nakua, you got Kyron Williams. Like, they. Again, you. It's like you have to take advantage of bad football.

[Guest or Analyst]

But also like two touchdowns taken off the board from a penalty and a Donnie Mitchell. Same guy, he had the holding on the Jonathan Taylor and then fumbling it in the end zone.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, but what Will is saying is like, okay, those touchdowns happen. Who's to say that Stafford, Stafford. And the boys don't just return one right away. Yeah, you know, like, Atwell was he old Miss Cat kind of comes in. He plays like very sparingly. Louisville, like, very sparingly. Could have gave up on him a bunch, but the dude just got insane elite speed and then he throws an absolute dime. Like, Stafford is the man. Yeah, Stafford, he is the man. He's always gonna have him game. Their run game looks good. Their D line is nasty. Puka right now has 503 yards on the season in four games. Dude, that one over the middle that he picked up, like, the ball was thrown so low, like, and he like just scoops it and rolls it. So it's like not even in question whether he caught the ball or not. You know why he's good. Big head. Kids got a big head. You can always tell success in the size of a head, man. Always. Mitch.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Shout out Mitchie.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Quentin Tarantino. A. Big heads just have a way of making it.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Thanos.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Thanos.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Big head.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

So something to think about. Yeah, Maybe you should do that to combine measure guys heads.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The fumble before the goal line. It's still just running through my head, jp. Yeah. Why does it keep happening? I don't see how that's still a thing.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

There's always something, man. Do you want to do a little tear talk before we get the boys out of here.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We have a hashtag tear talk coming from Tyler Hebert. Hebert T. Hebert. Double zero. If everyone on the bus was a part of the all white team coaching staff, what position would everyone have and are they covering plus 23 and a half.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

So we're the coaching staff.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You guys are the coaching staff. What position would you guys be?

[Guest or Analyst]

I got the kickers and punishing.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

J.P. special teams.

I got special teams. With your permission.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, I'll take that. You'd have to shave your head. Give me a Versace. A look. Yeah, easy. Which I know they're kind of packers special teams. Hate bringing that up because I love Versace. I know he's ready to just cut some guys right now.

[Guest or Analyst]

Mitch, I feel like you got.

I would be like wide receivers coach. I don't know if I. I don't know if I want to take offensive coordinator away from Taylor and I don't know if I'm ready for that responsibility, but I would definitely be wide receivers coach.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I'll tell you what, if we get.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The Ask Madden going.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. The week before, we would all sit in a room. We go over plays we like best for our wide receivers, for our running backs, for our quarterback. We'd be in a good spot. I would find myself in an OC offensive line position, obviously. Yeah. Spend a lot of time with the offensive line, figure out their strengths and weaknesses. Go call some games.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

D.C. yeah. I'd be like a defensive minded head coach.

[Guest or Analyst (possibly a sports commentator)]

Assistant.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Defensive minded head coach. Like who'd want the title of dc?

[Guest or Analyst]

Who wants.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Oh, that'd have to be myself. All white team.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. I mean it is Will's baby. Okay. Just want to be honest. I don't want the pressure of being a head coach. I want to focus on my guys. I want to get into a room, I want to love them up. Let him make the hard decisions of who to cut, who to keep, who you got. Sher. I was.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

If this is allowed, I would love to coach up maybe the cheer squad or be in charge of halftime show.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

There you go. Yeah.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Game entertainment.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

If that's okay with y'. All. I think in game experience, if you're the head of that, it's gonna be director of Marine. Win, lose or draw. The fans are gonna have fun. Okay, good. I was gonna say I'll be the get back coach. Analytic guy. I'll do that. Yeah, that would be. Also Nolan would be good at that though. Ryan. Yeah. He can be analytics I'll be the get back coach. You could be our dom. I'll just be holding you guys back.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Be our big dog.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Why did I not say that?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. Get you a couple chains, gold, everything.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Damn, I love that.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah. You handle business. You on that phone all the time, too. Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

I think I'm gonna take, like, the successor of a Mike Keith, be our color commentator.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Okay.

[Guest or Analyst]

I. I can give you pretty vocal, you know.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

All right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I think the DC title would have to go to Jared Demon.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Covering 23.

[Guest or Analyst]

And a half then.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Well, no, you let. You let will call the place. Let Beaming get all the credit. Then he goes, takes a head coaching job somewhere and be like, we'll see in a year. Yeah.

[Guest or Analyst]

Do we think the spread is actually 23 and a half? Like, is that like we're getting better?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, I think 23 and a half's fair.

[Guest or Analyst]

I feel like it'd be closer to, like, 16, 17.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Oh, buddy.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Look, we'll see it as disrespect. 23 and a half.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We're cover motivation. Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Keep it at 23 and a half and put the house on it. We're covering responsibly.

[Guest or Analyst]

I feel like we're better than 23 and a half is what I'm saying.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I got a good squad.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Right? We think so, too, but let Vegas leave it at 23 and a half right now.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Or Tyler. Or Tyler.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Only coaching staff to ever bet on our own games.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

See how long it takes us to get exiled from the league.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What else we got here?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

But I think we got a couple more tear talks. We good? We feel good. Feel good. Yeah. And we have our special guest. Dan Lanning came on the show. Let's give him a round of applause. Dan Lanning comes in after a big double OT win over Penn State. At Penn State, big time. Dante. Dante. Dante Moore. Correct. Dante Moore plus 650 in the FanDuel to win the Heisman right now. Just an incredible game to watch. Incredible game to watch. Hope you guys enjoy that. Any parting thoughts?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Let's be great, man.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Let's be great.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Let's be great.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

All White Spooktober. It starts Wednesday. We'll have the locker room decked out. That's the first show you're gonna see as Spooktober begins. It's gonna be a hell of a fall, boys. Hell of a fall. We're gonna have a great time. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Subscribe.

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[Malcolm Gladwell]

Malcolm Gladwell here. I recently recorded the first episode of Smart Talks with IBM where I learned how AI agents are joining AI assistants as a major productivity tool. Let's start with AI agents. AI agents can reason, plan and collaborate with other AI tools to autonomously perform tasks for a user. Brian Bissell, an expert from IBM, gave me an example of how a college freshman might use an AI agent.

[IBM Expert or Julian Edelman]

As a new student, you may not know how do I deal with my health and wellness issue? How many credits am I going to get for this given class? You could talk to someone and find out some of that, but maybe it's a little bit sensitive and you don't.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Want to do that, bissell told me. You could build an AI agent, a resource for new students that helps them navigate a new campus, register for classes, access the services they need, and even schedule appointments on their behalf, which in turn buys them more time to focus on their actual schoolwork.

[IBM Expert or Julian Edelman]

We can see patterns of how agents and assistants can help employees and customers and end users be more productive. Automate workflows so they're not doing certain types of repetitive work over and over again and streamlining their lives and making data more accessible to them 24 hours a day.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

To learn more about IBM's AI agents and how they can help your business, visit IBM.com/agents.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah, I was about to cr. You know what it's like after a game. You're about to cry, you're about to scream. You're just like jacked. And I probably had like 50 zins at the time, you know.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And hell yeah. No free shout outs to Zen.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

No free shadows is in.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

But you're scrol timeline. You see, you know, you see the clips of coach landing, you see the cocaine clip, you see coach landing just letting out a primal yell and just ah. Like during the whole thing he had all the emotions.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You got. I'm. We're no different, right? Like you can't play anymore. This is the closest you can get to playing. That's what it, that's what those moments feel like. Like it's like that's how close you get to touching it, you know.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Dude, you held. What was it you held Penn state to what, six points in the first 50 minutes of the game. Talk. Oh, Bill's back season. We're good.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Keep going.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Talk to me about the defensive play to get that the white guy, white boy getting over in the zone defense to pick that thing off. Like, take me through that play call all that stuff because I know you're a defensive minded coach and it was awesome to see, man. Like everybody at the bus in the stream on Saturday night was we're all rolling.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Especially when they had some life there at the. In the second.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I know because there was momentum, momentum, momentum. And you kind of quieted the crowd and all of a sudden we're going to overtime. They're. They're right in that game. So take me through that defensive call. We're in hell.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You know, they, they had some success and we'd hold them all game, but we felt like they found something. They found a place to get extra hats and we didn't have a great answer. I just remember flipping over to defense and saying, hey look, you guys got to come up with something called this play. And, and we got like, what's our. Well, let's look at our Rolodex. What do we have? What we not run. And then we have to have A plan for the score route, which is the route they ran there at the very least, very end. So we need something that stops both. Right. And we ran a call we hadn't ran all game, but we had practiced for this game. We created really, for those two. Those two plays. And we've been talking about that route, you know, all game and hadn't seen it. And we get out there and they give us a personnel that. We're like, ah, that's. That's different than the personnel group we've ran this against in practice. But, all right, let's give it a shot. And I thought, Tosh, the defensive staff did an unbelievable job of saying, like, no, we went through everything, like, this is the way that we can stop both plays. And they ran it. And Dylan makes an unbelievable interception. If he wasn't there. Aaron Flowers is right there to play cleanup. You know, we had a pressure on the quarterback.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

You cut out there at the very end. I think he's back with us. I see him kind of back.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

He's back.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

He's back there. There is. I want to ask this question because as a player and if you have a really good head coach, they set a good. They set a good story for how the week's going to go, for how the game's going to go. And there's a philosophy or an analogy you live by. You're alluding. You were alluding to it. And the presser after the game, death by a thousand cuts, cut after cut after cut. And at. At. At the very end, you're going to hit him with one last cut and it's going to be at the jugular. Was there a part of you that thought that jugular shot was when you went up 17 to 3 versus not when that interception happened?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

No.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

So because you started, you started giving them the. They're going. They're done.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah. So, like, throughout the game, you'll see our players doing it. Like we're all, hey, that's a cut, That's a cut. And I said, eventually, guys, we're going to hit a couple arteries and we're going to hit a couple jugular. And I was telling him that was an artery. Like, that's an artery. We got an artery, but, like, it ain't done. Like, let's keep chopping. But I didn't, I didn't know that was going to be something that went public, I guess. I mean, that's. I should assume everything goes public now.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

But especially with you, the emotion you play with.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

We're gonna we're gonna hit cuts, and eventually we're gonna hit a couple arteries. And, yeah, we hit one there, but it obviously wasn't enough. Like, unbelievable job by Penn State. Like, that team's a really good team. That's a hard place to play. That, like, driving up that tailgate. I haven't really seen much like that. That was really impressive.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What was it like playing at the Whiteout night game? And again, like, hats off to you, the staff, and even the players, too. You have a young, very talented team. And, like, a question mark going into it is there's going to be a lot of firsts for a lot of these guys traveling across the country and going into a place like Penn State to play against that team. Like, what was that experience like? Your kids handled it well. Talk us through that.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You always talk about trying to create chaos in practice, you know, before you get to the game, and that's hard to replicate. Like, you know, if I could have shipped in 100,000 fans to our practices this week, I would have. You couldn't do that. I talked to Urban Meyer before, and he talked about how there's really, like, hot spots in the game. It's going to be third down. It's going to be down when you're down by their student section. It's going to be the first play of the game. It's going to be every punt. So we carried around a lot of these turtle boxes, and, like, we had our speakers going. We had our. Our. Our sideline speakers going. We had our stadium speakers going. And then behind every huddle, we had, like, 15 turtle boxes up on our guys, and we're just holding them over, and we did it. You know, certain periods of practice, we call this period, you know, hotspot period. We do it on punt, you know, so I was really proud to walk out of that game. Our offensive line didn't have a single false start, you know, like that. That's a great example of the preparation paying off. And our guys handle that really well. We had two false starts, but it was. Is actually from our tight ends. So I thought. I thought those guys handled the moment really, really well.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, it seems like you guys weren't phased at all by the noise during the game. Now, you had one running back in particular, and it happens to be that. That Missouri. That he's a Missouri running back.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Illinois East, St. Louis, I believe. The one who got me.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right, the one who got you. He ends up going off against Oregon. Is it Jay Harris? Is that who I'm talking About. Is that who the guy is?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

It's actually Deer Hill had a. But they're Both. Both from St. Louis, but Hill Dear went to high school Altoff Cath is in Illinois, but he's lived in. In both. He's been Missouri and been in Illinois both.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

And Hill's the one that broke off Will Compton, is that correct?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

That's Jay. Jay broke off Will and Jay himself. I mean, you could pick a player on our team, they could have broke off Will.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I was gonna say while we're watching the stream, everyone in the stream's like, that's the guy that got Will. That's the guy that got Will. Would you say like Jay's confidence getting that 12 yard touchdown, did that come from spring when he went into Will Compton?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Nine years.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

A lot of our guys, after we went against an NFL player in practice and we were able to give him the business, I think a lot of our guys gained a lot of confidence that day. So, I mean, a lot of the credit belongs to Will. What he was able to do for our team in that moment, I was looking for.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

If there's one thing that Will Compton love, it's taking. It's taking credit for other people's success. But if people want to say he loves it, man, he loves every time Washington or the Raiders when he's like, it was. If it wasn't for me, this would have never happened.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Hey, Lanning will tell you that's Missouri linebackers, man. We just got a weird chip on our shoulder at all times.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

At all. You talked about your offensive line a little bit. And one of your office linemen, Harvey, who I had the opportunity to work out with in the spring game or spring practice, he has himself a little personal foul hits him with the old classic guys walking behind him. He hit. You tap the heel, it hits the other foot and he turns around, he's like, hey, he hit me in the face. Do you yell at him during that game and then after that kind of watch the playback and laugh about it because you guys got the W. Why.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I'm pissed is because I yelled at him two series before. I'm like, hey, man, whistle to whistle, right? Like, you're. He goes, am I doing too much? I'm like, you're doing too much. Chill, like, take a deep breath. And then two series later, he gets that. He's like, damn it. Like, I. I know it and I know I deserve to get yelled at right now. Now, he played a great game. Like, he did really, really well all game. But, yeah, that was a frustrating one because it's like, you saw it coming as a coach, the emotions are so high. You saw it from the sideline. All right, Keep your composure. Keep your composure. And then it happens. And it's really. I mean, I think we all. You watch that and you're like, okay, was the flag necessary there? You know, if you're watching that the whole time, you're like, I don't. I don't know. But it happens. And that's the kind of thing you can't let somebody else have control of. So we. That's a great learning moment for. For Alex. He played. Like I said, he played a really good game. That's one I know he wishes he had back, especially considering he got a warning before it ever happened. From. From myself and his offensive line coach.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I love it.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Speaking of penalties, can we talk about how confusing the targeting rule is? Oh, yeah, because that shot, like, you know, I guess. I guess by rule, he's not like a defenseless receiver. But you look at Wild. I know, dude. I know. It's like, I see people talking about it. I'm thinking to myself, look at Whit Weeks a couple weeks ago, lsu, Florida, and he's just. He's just out on the perimeter making a hell of a play as a linebacker, and he gets kicked out from the game. It happened in Alabama, Georgia as well. But, bro, like, what are they explaining to you when it's like, bro, if we're talking about player safety, like, this dude just got destroyed helmet to helmet.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Jay Lamar is a beast, man. Be able to handle that. But somebody told me I had something to do with hairline, and I'm. You know, I saw a meme afterwards on Twitter of like, a hairline, like, all the way back to you. That isn't it. I mean, I guess I shouldn't say anything. I don't know. Yeah, that. I thought it was targeting.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That's a good job of recomposing yourself just now.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What are they exploit. Like, what are the referees? Like, what are officials saying to you in that moment when you're just like. You're like, guys, like, here. Here's the replay. We're watching it together. Like, how they didn't play in the.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Stadium, obviously, so they didn't play the real. The replay up top. You know, because everybody in that stadium that would have seen that replay would have been like, oh, he's done right. Anybody would have seen that. Like, if that's not. I don't. I don't know what is so all they tell you is, we're looking at it up top. We're looking at it up top. So you. It's really frustrating as a coach, and you're like, what are they looking at? See, because it felt like one that was pretty clear, and I guess. I guess it wasn't. You know, you got to stick to what the rules are, and the rules obviously say that was not targeting Stephen A. Smith hairline.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Did you happen to catch the. That was a good one.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Thank you.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The Florida State, Virginia game.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Florida State. I caught bits and pieces. I saw the. The storm, the field being stormed.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I'm watching this game, and I think with the acc, they do something really cool where you're like, in the review, you're, like, in the booth with.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Going over reviews and calls. I would have loved to have heard, like, all the back and forth. Like, you hear all the back and forth with the referees talking about. I would have loved to have heard it when this was going on, because it's like, man, what are they even talking about this kid?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You think this is hypothetical and funny? Do you think they, like, went to the booth and then like, hey, nobody. Hey, nobody's in the booth. Nobody's up there. What's going on? Like, went on a bathroom break or something? Like, I don't know, because that was definitely some crazy contact there. That was wild.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

But they.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

They obviously got the call, right? You know, I guess.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I guess. Do you. Is that something you go to? Like this today? You go and whatever. I don't know what referee. If it was like a. If it was a Big Ten referee staff or whatever. Do you go to the Big Ten.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

And be like, hey, we turn in plays every week.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

So that was the best, honestly, is really the best when it comes to feedback on that stuff. So, I mean, just, we. We send in plays each week. Like, hey, can you just give us our. Your interpretation of this? You know, do you see this as the proper. Proper call? Non. Proper call. So we'll get feedback later on this week on, you know, a couple calls that we sent in just to get, you know, evaluated and get better explanation for.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

For us.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I had a question about Dante Moore. Obviously, he transferred some UCLA a couple years ago. He sits behind Dylan Gabriel. But you've been able to go from Bo Nix to Dylan Gabriel to now to Dante Moore, who's sitting at, what, plus 650 in the Heisman. Heisman race right now. Like, how do you get a guy like that to stay and be like, hey, you need to be patient with the way the, the whole transfer portal works now. Like, a guy like him, if he's sitting behind, I'm sure he thinks to himself, I can go anywhere else and play right now. Like, what are those conversations look like when you're sitting there in the start of fall last year and be like, just relax. Like you're going to have your time, but not yet.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah. You know, honestly, Dante, like, he, he handled you. You're. What it starts with is you be honest. And I think what happened for Dante when he left UCLA is he looked football. And you realize all these guys that are getting opportunities to go to the NFL, very few of them were freshmen, sophomore quarterbacks. You know, the majority of them were like, Jaden Daniels was playing in his fifth year, like Bo Nicks is playing in his sixth year, like Michael Penck. Like, these guys had been maximizing their career and the key was how they played when they left. Like, so for him, I think he realized it's not about how fast I play, it's about how I play when I get on the field. And had an unbelievable maturity. I think he felt like, hey, this is a place I want to be. I want to go learn. I see what this offense is doing. I see how they've developed guys. That's something I want to be a part of. And if it means I'm on the field this year, great. If it means I get to learn from a veteran, even better. And what he was able to learn from Dylan Gabriel, he'll be the first one to tell you, like, man, that was an unbelievable experience for him and it made him, you know, play the way he's playing now.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

If I could go back just on the targeting call, there's a couple ideas.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Just.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

There's a couple ideas floating out there, but I would love to have your opinion. If you could do anything with that rule, what would you like to see done different, differently?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I don't know.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah, he's like, they all do a great job up there.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah, I don't have an answer.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

So there's a, there's a cool idea floating around that somebody had in my comment section, I want to say last week, but you kind of treat it like the NBA where there's like a flag, flagrant one, flagrant two. It's like, okay, it might be a 15 yard penalty, but to kick a kid out of the game, like, he would have to be pretty egregious to kick him out of the game. To where you see kind of like a, a, a tier one level And a tier two level thoughts on that idea, Coach Lanning?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah, sounds great.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I love it. I love it. Let's talk about decorum more real quick. Former five star. You also got another kid, Jordan Davis, five star. How are you getting all these damn five stars? Like, up in the Northwest? Like, I've traveled to Oregon. It takes, you know, planes, trains and automobiles just to get over there. And you're Getting these kids 5 stars from all over the country. How do you do it, Dan? And what can I tell to Sharon.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Moore that he can do best versus most convenient, right? Like, you can go to the most convenient place, and that doesn't mean you're going to the best. You know, I think we have one of the best place. Like, our coaching staff's really dynamic. Our players want to play with great players. And again, like, when you first get here, you talk about a vision, right? And now you're able to say, like, okay, proof's in the pudding, right? Look at what these guys have done when they've come here and the success they've created. And I think we get a bunch of guys that realize the most you're ever going to grow in your life is when you go to college. College. And someday, like, you guys experienced it. When the Arizona Cardinals call, guess what? You moved to Arizona. It doesn't matter where it's at. When the Seattle Seahawks call, you move to Seattle. It's the same. Like, you get that same opportunity in college. Go pick the place where you're going to develop and get to be the best version of you. And obviously, we get to be. We're competitive in getting these guys. But you recruit your tail off, you wake them up, you put them to bed, right? And text messages and phone calls, you build relationships. And I think that's really paid off for us here.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Sticking on decorum more. At what point in the fall did you realize, oh, this kid's special?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I think we recognized it in the spring when we. When he first got here in the spring. You know what, what Decorian's grown up so much from is, you know, he was a perfectionist and everything went so good for him right, in high school. And now you get somewhere and you're. You're playing some dogs. You're playing some real players, too. And I think what he had to realize is, like, hey, there's going to be good and there's going to be bad. Bad in every game, right? How do I respond to that? That's going to be the biggest tell about me. And he's Responded really well. I mean, you remember early in that game, he had a slant that came his way, got bobbled, and then he ended up coming down. It could have easily turned into an interception. Right. And then later on, he has a huge. A huge conversion on fourth and three where it turned into. You know, it wasn't. It didn't go as scripted.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

He's trying to run a route, the guy wires him, and he. Then he turns into scramble drill. Dante hits him in stride down the sideline. Huge conversion for us. But I think he's just been able to adapt in those moments where, like, okay, if. If plan A doesn't work, let me go to plan B and let me execute it. And he did a really good job of that in that game.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Coach Lane, we're talking about some of the best schools you can go to in the country. Also a couple schools that people are talking about, the Big Ten Championship, The Huskers and the Oregon Ducks. Who else do you see popping off to you out there in the Big Ten Conference, aside from those two schools?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Indiana. We. That's who we play next. Yeah, Indiana. They're playing really good ball.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Oh, dude, I've heard teams. I've heard. I've heard Signetti's talking a lot of. I. I don't know exactly yet.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You're saying I'm sleeping on my tum.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Without two hands.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Without two hands. Closing the fridge.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

On the fridge.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I mean, with the ham.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Come on.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Saying, oop, that one's for them. Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Okay. Yeah. But you brought up some comments that allegedly James Franklin just said. Do you. Do you. When you hear that James Franklin may or may not be saying those things about you, do you take that personal? Missouri, boy.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

What's weird about it is, like, immediately, when. When those comments come out, how I get a text message from Will saying, don't read this. Whatever you do, don't read these comments. Don't. Don't look at what was said. And, you know, obviously, I immediately laugh.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah. Last week. Last week, I. I sent him the clip and I said, please tell your PR team to not let you see this clip.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Direct messages it to me and says, please, please make sure they know you shouldn't watch this clip.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

How to get your piss hot, though, knowing James is talking like that, huh?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Oh, man, he. He's a great coach. And that. The. The part that is rough, you know, is you walking. You guys saw it. Like, I saw it at the end of that game, that either team could have won that game. Right? You're you're like, this far away from it going either way. And his. He has an unbelievable team. He, like, coached them really well.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

We.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

We had some success, obviously, in the third quarter, and then the fourth, they make this unbelievable comeback. And I, you know, for me, you set your jaw and you say, hey, regardless of what happens, our guys, they just. They were just in a battle. They were in a war. Regardless of what happens. Unbelievable game. And somebody comes out on the other end of that and, you know, I hurt for their locker room and the work that they put in, because I promise you, they worked really hard, too, you know, for that to play out. So I'm grateful that we got to be on the right end of it when it's all said and done. But you have to acknowledge how close it really was at the end.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What else do we got?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I'm trying to think of a way to ask a question about James Franklin being 4 and 20 versus top 10 teams, but in a respectful way, because you're right, like, they are a great coach team and they have a lot of talent there, but that is a glaring stat that kind of just sits in front of us all when we look at Penn State. Is there, like, is there anything. I just kind of a shitty question, but, like, what is not happening on Penn State side that. That they might need to fix? Is there something that is easily fixable there?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I can't speak to.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I can speak to. James Franklin is an unbelievable coach. And anybody that can't be excited about, you know, being a fan of theirs and excited about the games that he's won and what he's done for that program, that program is unbelievable shape. They've got a really good team and the season's not over. Like, that team's going to win a lot of ball games. They're going to have a lot of success. And you saw the run they went on last year. Like, they played longer than we played right last season, and we saw him in the Big Ten championship, but they. They were able to go on a great playoff run. They've got a great team again. He does a great job. I think they've got great coordinators on both sides. They got great players. Those guys play with great effort. It's just, you know, it's a. It's a, you know, small, small, small segment here or there that made the difference in that game.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, there's a shitty question. You're right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

As a head coach, though, like, compartmentalizing. How is it pretty easy to compartmentalize? Like, These shadows that kind of chase you, whether it's a record versus an AP pole or a record on the road or record against, like, these rival opponents. Like, is that a real thing as a head coach in your mind? And is it easy to compartmentalize or is it. You know what I mean? Like, are you acknowledging those things, like, with yourself or with the team? Or is it. Is it pretty easy to find an analogy or philosophy to lean on? Or what usually goes through a head coach's mind, like, when there are some, like, glaring things, like, of a shadow when you're at a school?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Well, I mean, that. That exists everywhere. And, you know, for me, it'll be until we. We win the big one, right? That's.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

That's.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

They'll say the same thing about me. And what, What I think you figure out really quick as a head coach is like, who cares? Who cares what anybody else thinks? Like, you can't worry about the opinions of others. What you got to ask yourself is, did I do? Did I learn every lesson I could have learned in that moment? Did I get better? Did I grow? Did I make sure our team was still growing Right in every moment? And then the rest takes care of itself. It takes. It takes some luck to win a game. It takes some. The ball's got to bounce the right way. Like, and if you can't acknowledge that, then you. You don't really know football. You haven't been a part of football, but you can, you know, stack as many advantages as possible by the way you work, the way you prep, the way you grow. And, like, that's what I was really excited about after this game. I told our staff yesterday, like, man, unbelievable effort by our players. Unbelievable job by you as coaches. But did you guys. Did you guys see this? Like, that's a wart. Like, we got to get this wart removed right now. Like, did you guys see this? Like, okay, we gotta. We gotta carry more answers for this in the future. So we were able to learn some really valuable lessons even in a win. So I think that's. That's just part of it. And then you stack as many of those lessons as you can, and then you hope you. You stack enough that it removes the luck and the advantages that it. That just happen within a game at times.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, there's, like, always amount of criticism that comes to coaches until they prove people wrong. Like, I believe you got some criticism playing WASHINGTON, Caleb DeBoer's Washington Huskies, a few years ago for going for it on fourth down quite a bit. You Walked into this game and you go for fourth down seven times, you get five of them. Is that something you. I mean, it was so clear that any time it was close enough to go for it, you're. You're doing it. Was that, Was that something you told your kids before in the pre and pregame, like, hey, if it's, if it's fourth and one or two, we're going for it every single time here. Tell the punter, sit down, buddy, we're gonna have a day.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Well, I told her, guys, we're going to be aggressive in this game, and we're going to walk back to the. After the game and say, oh, man, I wish we would have or. And his limited possessions. We had five possessions in the first half. They had four. You know, I think in the second half it was very similar. And they were going to get one more, one more than us, you know, in the, in the second half, because they start with the ball in the second half. So we had to be really advantageous, you know, with every possession and, you know, fourth and one, there's a really high conversion rate. Fourth and two is, is still, you know, very high. It's hard. Like, I thought we had them a good answer for them on their fourth downs, and they were able to convert. They were three for, three for fourth down. So this is a game where you can't just go back afterwards and be like, hey, we did the right thing. We punted and, and it didn't work out. Like, we, we wanted to make sure that we, we left it on the field. And the only way you can score touchdowns at the end of drives is converting. You know, on fourth down, you can't, you can't kick a field goal and be in that situation.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What's the, what's the thought process and conversation like? You're wanting to be a very aggressive team and then also having that decision whether you're going to go for two, having the ball second in OT compared to you, hey, let's just kick the extra point here and then we'll start going for two whenever.

[Guest or Analyst]

Over.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

The overtime rules call for it.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah, I felt like I wanted to leave it on the field for our players to decide. You know, you have a feel for any game, like, and you could, you could argue, oh, the momentum's going Penn State's way. I think I had a couple guys come to me and say, hey, coach, you go for two here and finish it.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

That's what I was saying, too, in the stream room. I was yelling, I need two I need two.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah. In my mind it's okay, what's our two point play plan? And then what do we think we'll see from them on defense? And then I'm always asking myself, okay, what's my percentage chance of we're going to have success on that? And if you saw that like later on we run our two point play and they stop it, they picked it up. So I bet you guys then were like, oh, thank God he didn't go for two.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Oh yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I was like, great call, great call. Not going for two on the first one.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You know, ultimately like they, they stop our two point conversion in the second overtime. But that's what I'm always saying. If I felt like 100% were scoring on the two point play, then yeah, maybe you do it there. But I didn't, I didn't have that feeling. They were really good defense. They, I didn't know exactly what we would see from them, you know, in that moment. So. And I felt like, hey, we're going to make this extra point. But I wanted to leave in our players hands and I wanted to give our defensive coaches an opportunity to have an answer. I felt like we had good answers on offense and at that point, point at the, at the, at the end of game, I thought both defenses were struggling to figure it out, but I wanted to leave it in our players hands and say, let's go to the second ot. We knew we were going to be moving away from their crowd on the second overtime. Like not their crowd. They still have a big crowd but we're going to be moving away from their student section. Wasn't going to be quite as loud. That's the side of the field that I much rather have gone for two on rather than the side with their, with their students, you know, down there. So there was a lot of factors went into that, but we pretty quickly knew we were going to kick the extra point when, when that's all you need to tie the game and go to the second ot.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

The amount of awareness to know where the student section is and all the percentages is pretty impressive. Before we ask you the Bud Light question or anything else, we'll have to ask you. I just want to nail down how big of an environment that is at Penn State. Like everyone talks about it while we're watching the game. It's incredible to see like the sky camp showing the incredible whiteout, like just, just give some flowers if you could to Penn State, the Nittany Lions, that fan baseball for how big time that stadium is. I can't read that. It.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

The, the atmosphere you recognize the minute you drive in. You know, I think we're rolling in a bunch of buses and my wife sent me a picture yesterday. She, she's got these fans flipping her off, you know, on the bus.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, kicking the bus.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Like you don't know what kind of fuel that is for, you know, a visiting team. How fun that is to be a part of. Like, as you're going in and people are banging on your bus and the. You're driving through five minutes of RVs and tailgates. It's super impressive. And they did, they had a great, they had a great job. They were engaged the entire time. It was a really elite atmosphere the entire game. One of the better ones I've been in for sure.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

What are the plans for the bye week? Kind of time off, you giving the boys like, what are you gonna do? Maybe to check out for a moment of football, kind of get some sanity and some juice in your system somewhere. It might be watching busting with the boys, but what are the.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah, what are the binge. Watch some busting with the boys.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

There's a of. Lot, lot of content.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I had dinner with my family last night. It was awesome. At my house. That was pretty cool. So, you know, try to get our coaches, you know, home at night to where they can spend some time with their family here. Really. Monday through Wednesday, we'll go out on the road recruiting. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I'm going to try to watch a couple games and then Sunday, you know, we're, we're right back at it. But our players need the recovery, but we also need to, you know, some growth. We need to learn those lessons that we had in that game. So we're going to really do a hard self scout of ourselves. Evaluate what, you know, what are some of our tendencies. Great teams have tendencies. Figure out what we need to build off of those tendencies and then evaluate some of these teams that are coming down the wire for us in the future with Indiana and some of the guys coming up of what. What are the answers that we need? We'll get some good practices in this week, so all those things will stack up. But biggest thing, we get to see my kids a little bit. Probably go to a little league football practice.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yes, sir.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

At some point I get to watch my. I'm going to. I think he has a game this week on Tuesday. I don't normally get to watch my son play little league football, so I'm hoping Titans balls out this Week and, and get to see him in action.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Titan looks up at the stands and Dan's just giving the cuts. Every time he makes it just.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

He was Jack, man. He was so he was there. He came, him and his. My. Two of my sons didn't come. Kaden had banned and Niles, Niles didn't even watch the game. He's like, no, I didn't watch the game, but Kaden wants the game. But Niles went on the tr. Or Titan went on the trip with me. So we rode the bus together afterwards. He, he was sitting with his mom, you know, in the stands and he wanted to come down the fields, like come down the field and he, he had, he had a lot of fun, man. That's a lot of fun to share as a dad. That those moments with your kid when they, when they love what you do and you know, it makes it pretty special.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

When we were at your spot and during, during spring practice, your son was writing a three part series to the Minecraft movie because he decided it was not good enough. It did not not check the box for him. Can we get an update on how that script is going right now? Because I don't know if he's 12 or 13, but yeah, the level of focus.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And is he looking for investors?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, because we are busting what the boys is willing to invest in that child. I mean seeing the Legos, seeing his setup, how focused he was on, it's like, dude, this kid is going to be a Fortune 500 cat one day.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah. So we talked about last night, like greatest strength is creativity. Greatest weakness, he doesn't finish. He's procrastinator. So like that Minecraft, he wrote like three quarters of the story. And I asked him last night, I was like, was that over with? He's like, I haven't finished it yet. He started this. He does these stop action movies. He made the most unbelievable stop action movie that stops right in the middle of the movie. I'm like, what? What happens?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

What happens?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

So we gotta work on my man being a finisher too. He's an unbelievable starter. We gotta be able to be a finisher. He's the kind of guy that could start a company. Like, is he gonna see it through? Like, if you're gonna make an investment in this guy, we gotta see it, get him to see it through. So this is a good challenge. Denials. I'll make sure he sees this clip.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

He's a visionary.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

We gotta be finishers. We can't just be starters.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We gotta be finishers He's a visionary. He's got to surround himself with the right people to get, you know, somebody.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Can take it from point C to.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

D. Yeah, he's gonna get A and B started. Yeah.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Sounds like me writing a paper in college is what he sounds like.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Do you have any more questions? Do you want to hit with the Bud Light?

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

No. I'm excited about this Indiana matchup. I mean, you got Coach Elaine, all the. All the, you know, the hits that coach landing has. You got Signetti coaches. Signetti's got a lot of good hits out there. This is. This is not Only a top 10 matchup, but this is a top 10 matchup on the mic, in my opinion.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, Signetti is a talker. He sits in his press conferences like Google me.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I'm sure he's got a lot to say about Dan Lanning. Ah, he's got a lot to say.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

He'll come check it out next week on the live locker room.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

But, Dan, our Bud Light question is, what is something in Dan Lenning's life that is easy to enjoy and something he will never get tired of? What's something you will never get tired of?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You talking about, like, in my life, or you talking about football specifically?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Isn't it all the same?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

No.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Okay, let's do. Let's do one. One. One of each, then call them A.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Column B. I love going on a walk with my. My kids and my wife. We live in, like, a really cool neighborhood. And like, this week, we'll get in some night walks. Like we. Like. We're just gonna go, go, go on a track. I'll put the music in my. In my pocket, and we'll. We'll just kind of talk about life. And that. That's something you can never take away from me. That's one of my favorite things. At some point, these guys are gonna be 18 and 20, and they're probably not gonna want to go on walks with their dad anymore. But it's. It's like my favorite thing in the world to do is to say, let's go hit a night walk. You know, it's a little dark outside. You probably shouldn't be walking. But 9pm we're just strolling around the neighborhood, you know, enjoying it and catching up with each other.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

It's fun to envision. Like, I like my Dan Lanning the way he was post game against Penn State.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And seeing that guy try and check out for a walk, a nice little stroll with his family.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Right, Right.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

That's what I like to picture. Are you able? Like, you know, he's probably. They're probably walking, you know, he's just.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Grinding his teeth, just thinking, son of a. Daddy said, what about me? I'm busting with the bleed.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

My tongue.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I close the door with my hand, not my hip. I love it. What about football? Football. And it's something you'll never get tired of. The answer is right in front of you. It's so easy.

[IBM Expert or Julian Edelman]

Is it winning?

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yeah, that's the answer.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Winning, winning.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

You never get tired of winning. Yeah, you never get tired of winning. But just being on the turf, being on the grass for me, like, that's why you sign up for it. Like, I'm excited about this walkthrough we're about to go. Do you know we got one here in just, in a little bit. And excited to see these guys learn and like, them kind of have those. Oh, yeah, I see that, Mom. You know, like, you see what we see? All right, let's go attack this. Like, in that growth. When you start to see it show up in games, it's, it's, it's fun.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I love it, man. Well, tell the boys that Will and Taylor say hello. We miss you. We appreciate you have a hell of a rest of the season, man.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Appreciate you guys. You guys are killing it. Keep it up.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Coach Lanny, how are the backers doing? How the backers grading out? Like, how are my boys doing in that, in that linebacker room?

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

They're doing good, man. They're doing good, but they're getting ball production, Will, which is something you got to be, you know, really satisfied with. Like, like how our ball, the ball is our oxygen. And these guys have been attacking the ball like crazy, which is, which is fun to see.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

I, I listen, you know, I'm just a. I'm just a Joe now watching film. I'm just watching it live. I don't know what schematics are going on, but there's one play where I'm just, I'm screaming Bryce Scrupe. You got to see the puller scrape when they're at, like, the goal line. Might not have been his job, but I'm putting it on two, eight, any chance I get. Every. That's my guy.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Yeah, put on his back, man. Put the team on back. And I know what play you're talking about. It wasn't necessarily his own only responsibility there, but he, but they had some good stuff, man. Some really good answers from Penn State that we gotta, we gotta come up with good answers. For ourselves.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

Sorry. We got, we paused because we just.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Got a little hard.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

We got breaking news.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Somebody and Dan Lenning's PR team said he's very jealous of the hats that we're wearing. And don't worry, we've sent you a bunch of these hats, Oregon hats. The boys, they'll be, they'll be with you very soon.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

I was, I was about to throw my bus and hat on that you guys, you know, hooked me up before and I was about to wear it in this morning, but I ran out of the house kind of too fast. So I'm looking forward to the gear coming our way. And I, you can trust I'll be rocking it.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

I love it.

[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

And also thank you guys too for just working with the boys, like getting to put the, the logo and stuff. Like it's really cool. It's big time by you guys. Thank you.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Absolutely, man. We take care who takes care of us. Appreciate you guys.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

Yep, appreciate you brother. Have a good one. Good luck the rest of the season.

[Dan Lanning (Head Coach)]

Thank y'.

[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

All.

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[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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[Host 2 (possibly Will or Taylor)]

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[Host 1 (possibly Taylor or Will)]

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