Diego Pavia "I Should Win The Heisman" + Cade McConnell & Theo Von On Vanderbilt CFP Hopes | Bussin'

Summary

Bussin’ With The Boys – Episode 357

Diego Pavia "I Should Win The Heisman" + Cade McConnell & Theo Von On Vanderbilt CFP Hopes

Date: December 2, 2025
Host(s): Will Compton & Taylor Lewan
Guests: Diego Pavia (Vanderbilt QB), Cade McConnell (Vanderbilt OL), Theo Von (comedian & superfan)

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively, wide-ranging conversation blending college football debate, locker room banter, and Thanksgiving hijinks. Hosts Will Compton and Taylor Lewan are joined by Vanderbilt stars Diego Pavia and Cade McConnell, with a cameo from comedian Theo Von. Key themes are the College Football Playoff (CFP) bubble, Heisman candidacy, NIL realities, and the changing landscape of college athletics—with the usual Bussin’ blend of humor, stories, and unfiltered takes.

Main Theme: The Vanderbilt football fairytale—should Diego Pavia win the Heisman? Do the Commodores deserve a CFP berth? Plus, a fun dive into team culture, NIL, and the rowdy Pavia family.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Nebraska’s Defensive Shakeup – The Coaching Carousel

[04:03 - 07:34]

• Nebraska has fired another defensive coordinator (John Butler). Will & Taylor debate the quick turnover and its broader impact.
• Will underscores why tough decisions need to be made for performance.
• Taylor highlights issues: Nebraska’s run defense lacked discipline and physicality.
• Quote:

  “At the end of the day, you have to either produce or you don’t.” – Will [05:58]

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Thanksgiving Recap – Busin’ With The Boys Style

[12:40 - 19:14]

• Classic football guy Thanksgiving: feasting, beer, Werewolf party games, plenty of family stories.
• Warm anecdotes about family, friendship, and even uncomfortably funny holiday interactions (awkward daps, weird greetings, wrestling matches with kids).
• Bonding moments thread together team, friends, and fans.

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College Football Culture, Generational Trends, and Social Media

[08:09 - 11:14]

• The inside joke of “6, 7”—passing fads among football kids (compared to “dabbing” or “YOLO”).
• Taylor muses on the moment when you realize you aren’t in the cool generation anymore.

Quote:
“You start doing that...buddy, hang it up. At some point, you gotta accept you’re no longer the cool generation. Move on.” – Will [08:47]

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The Ultimate Team Cards (EA Sports & Legacy)

[25:37 - 28:32]

• The hosts react to being included in the new EA Sports "CFB Ultimate Team" card game—reflecting on personal football legacies and how sports fans remember careers.
• Taylor expresses pride in finally feeling his college play is properly respected.

Quote:
“I feel like it’s finally getting the respect it deserves.” – Taylor [26:30]

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Vanderbilt Football: From Preseason Banter to Real CFP Contender

[44:00 - 52:39]

• Diego Pavia and Cade McConnell join the conversation. Pavia reflects on his preseason declaration that Vandy would "run Tennessee"—and how he's backed it up.
• The guys discuss Vanderbilt's national perception and the talent shift via NIL.
• Inside jokes abound—banter about practice blow-ups, player (and coach) personalities, and locker room culture.

Quote:
“You walk[ed] away from the shop and you’re talking about national title...I was like Vandy about to get figured out real quick... didn’t think you guys would be in the position you’re in.” – Taylor [49:41]

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The Playoff Bubble – Vanderbilt’s Case

[54:24 - 73:04]

• Vandy’s resume: 10-2, only losses to Texas and Alabama (both away), big wins at Tennessee.
• Controversy: are SEC teams made or broken by their logo? Compare “brand value” for CFP selection—would Vandy be in if they were ‘Bama or Texas?
• Arguments for and against: Strength of schedule; key wins “at the time” of play vs end-of-year records; head-to-heads; how the system rewards logos over performance.

Quote:
“If we had a Crimson A or an Orange T on us, we'd be the number five team in the nation.” – Cade McConnell [57:07]

• Play-in games suggested (Will asks: “Shouldn’t conference championships be play-ins?”)
• Both Diego and Cade insist Vandy should (and will) be in. Will and Taylor walk through possible chaotic scenarios—who would have to win or lose? What about the impact of conference championship games?

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The Heisman Debate – Pavia’s Case

[88:33 - 95:45]

• Diego Pavia is third in FanDuel Heisman odds despite 4,018 yards and 36 TDs; Mendoza (Indiana) & Julian Sayin (Ohio State) ahead.
• The crew debate why: is it stats, school “logo,” media bias, or Pavia’s outspoken attitude?
• Cade: “He means more to his team than anyone in CFB. Dual-threat, totally changed the culture.”
• Taylor: The Heisman should go to the ultimate difference-maker, not just best stats.
• They compare "Heisman moments"—Pavia’s big games (e.g., 433 yards in Knoxville), fierce competitive energy.
• Will: Maybe voters want “country club” types and aren't ready for Pavia’s unfiltered style.

Quote:
“If you plug and play anybody else, him anywhere else, they’re not in the same position. Most important player in college football.” – Cade McConnell [90:41]

• Theo Von adds: The Heisman also honors perseverance and changing a program’s culture.

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NIL, Transfer Portal, and College Football’s Wild West

[108:17 - 110:57]

• In-depth on NIL realities: contract negotiations, agents, “exit interviews” now include asking about money, not just performance.
• Some players “hold out” of bowl practices until new deals are signed.
• Coaches hate negotiating with agents; agent commissions often 10–20%.
• Tax education is suddenly crucial.

Quote:
“It's like the NFL is trickling down, but with college, it's like every year...You're signing like a free agent after every season.” – Taylor [116:14]

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Bowl Games and the Changing Meaning of Postseason

[117:17 - 119:16]

• Bowl games matter less; focus is on the playoff.
• Vandy players admit, if they miss the CFP, the bowl is “just another game.”

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The Pavia Family & Theo Von’s Vandy Fandom

[96:05 - 104:31]

• Theo Von goes in: The Pavia family—wild, loyal, always entertaining, setting the “tone” as the life of the Vandy party.
• Hilarious stories: brother in the stands in a suit, the family almost getting “arrested” for cheering too hard, superstitions (e.g., family can’t “chill out” or the team loses).
• Vandy’s culture transformation: Theo describes how the fans are “learning how to win,” a massive shift for a school long used to losing.

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Closing Moments – Optimism, Surrealism, and Big Ambitions

• The hosts and guests agree: Vanderbilt has changed its story. Whether or not the committee gives them their due, the energy, unity, and optimism around the program are real.
• Cade: “We’re in the dance, we’re going to win it all.”
• Diego: “Whatever is written, it's all good—whatever’s meant to happen will happen.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Diego on his Heisman case:

  “It’s plain and simple: Are you the best or not?” [93:07]

• Theo Von on the Pavia family:

  “They’re running options in the stands. Pavia running an out route up 20 flights of bleachers…” [98:39]

• Taylor, on CFP chaos:

  “As fans, we love the chaos. I love all the arguments, debating...” [61:41]

• Will on playoff selection:

  “It’s always record-based when it comes to these kinds of awards.” [83:11]

• Cade, on what he’d do for football:

  “I would do anything for the Natty. I already think it’s written, though.” [126:09]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:03 – Nebraska coaching news & broader college football coaching carousel
• 12:40 – Thanksgiving recap and family stories
• 25:37 – EA Sports “Ultimate Team” cards and legacy talk
• 44:00 – Diego & Cade join; Vandy preseason vs reality
• 54:24 – Vanderbilt’s CFP resume and bubble debate
• 73:04 – Playoff scenarios and selection process breakdown
• 88:33 – Heisman candidacy, media bias, and defining the “most valuable player”
• 108:17 – NIL deals, agents, and exit meeting reality
• 117:17 – The bowl game dilemma & changing postseason significance
• 96:05 & 98:39 – Theo Von on Vandy culture and the Pavia family legend

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

Tone: Locker room real talk, playful, sometimes chaotic, always passionate.
Takeaway: This episode is a celebration of a program (and a player) that’s rewritten its own story—with a side of pointed realism about how football still bends to brands and tradition. But if Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt have anything to say about it, that’s not going to last for long. Whether it’s the Heisman or the playoff, this bus is rolling—and everyone’s having fun on the ride.

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Subscribe, follow, and ride with the boys. Selection Sunday’s coming. Big hugs, tiny kisses.

Transcript

[Taylor]

All right, we're good.

[Will]

Be like busing with the boys hanging with the fellas Betting on a game.

[Theo Von]

No woman's gonna tell us what to do.

[Will]

Just drinking beer and making that noise, baby I'm hanging with the fellas.

[Theo Von]

Busting with the boys, bro.

[Will]

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of busing with the boys. This is episode three. Hold 357. 357. That's the episode that we are on right now. So we've done 357 of these. This is the 357th. Now, if you're new to the show, if you're checking out, if you did, the friend tells a friend tells a friend. And this is your first time joining us, please do me a favor, hit the subscribe button for us. We are so close to 700,000. We're sniffing it. We're right around the corner. From there. We would love to celebrate. It doesn't hurt you at all. It helps us a whole. A whole bunch. Also, cyber Monday deal still going on Tuesday, or is that out the window?

[Taylor]

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[Will]

Also 6, 677,000. 77,000. Gotta respect the sevens, but let's bump that up to 700,000. This is an I heart podcast.

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[Taylor]

Boys, we got breaking news.

[Will]

We got breaking news.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I think I ought to open my phone.

[Will]

Is this actually breaking news?

[Taylor]

Yeah. Well, for what we've talked about on yesterday's shows in college football, Nebraska just fired John Butler, the defensive coordinator. This happened like as I'm looking at it now, three hours ago, right. I'm seeing it go, I'm seeing it going everywhere.

[Will]

Happened three hours ago on a Monday. So when you're watching this, you're like, this is old news, boys. What are you talking about? That's how shows work when you pre record them. Shut up and listen. One year.

[Jeff]

Is that correct? He's there one year.

[Taylor]

Will now be looking coach will be looking for his third D coordinator in three years. So we had Tony White for two or Right.

[Will]

I don't know how long.

[Taylor]

Oh yeah. Rule year one and two is Tony White. Year three was John Butler. So going into year four we'll be looking for the third D.C. what's going through your head?

[Will]

Is this a good move?

[Taylor]

Yeah, I think it's the right move. I, I look, look, I hate people getting fired, all that stuff. But just looking at Nebraska football all that like we clearly were not, we were not that good on defense. Yeah, we're clearly not that good on defense and I'm not on the inside to know all of that stuff. I never like if I'm on phones with coaches or if I'm phones on people from the inside, I'm never looking to like, hey, what is your opinion of this guy? I think he's kind of blah, blah, blah. I'm never like doing that. So I didn't necessarily know like what it was like. Is it talent, is it scheme? It's like it was popping up whenever you guys, you know, banged your head three times without getting touched on the explosives. And then those continue to happen. If I'm thinking just run scheme, run fit. It feels like we're just not dialed in in the front seven. And the way we just got gashed all year in the running game.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

You know, you sit there again without having like this strong, we should do this, we should do that. It's like I'm wondering what's going to happen because if your coach rule and you got again, get the extension, talked about it, you're going to have to make hard decisions at the end, at the end of the year, I'm sure he did the self, the self evaluations of everything and thought like, hey, we gotta, we gotta make a move here, so we'll see what happens.

[Will]

The shitty part is, is, I mean, I don't think it's actually shitty like these coaches, they sign up for these types of things. So like, yeah, we can do the sad for his family, sad for all this, but like, at the end of the day, like you have to either produce or you don't produce. He obviously was not producing for all the reasons you said. But in our reaction show that we shot yesterday, it really turns into the chessboard that needs to take place for Nebraska to be a truly competitive team next year. So to me, this is a great move. Like, hey, wasn't good enough. Got to move on, go find our guy immediately because we got to get in that transfer portal to go get these defensive players to be a competitive defense in the bay 10 who for the large majority, everybody wants to run the football effectively.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Yeah. That was one move in my head of if this domino falls, then it's like, all right, we, we're, we're, we're looking at ourselves closely enough to feel like, where's the, you know, where's the, like a regression? Where is the, where is somebody kind of taking us down from that standard a little bit? If I'm looking at defensively just what, what we put on tape, especially as of late. But all year long defense was definitely one where I'M like, man, it just doesn't seem like I kind of. You know, when he came. He came from the Buffalo Bills. I think he was the secondary coach. He' a back seven guy. And when you're getting gash like that in the run all year long, it's like, all right. We just don't. We don't have a guy who's insanely dialed towards your. Your assignment sound. It's piss, it's vinegar, it's mentality. It's beating the man in front of you, having the right structure to kind of set up and allow your guys to play with the. With the right eyes, with the right vision, with the right feet, with the right striking, the right violence. All that stuff jumped out. I am glad that we are. That we made that move.

[Will]

Onward and upward, boys.

[Taylor]

Onward and upward.

[Will]

Because we sat here and we talked about. This is the time we've kind of done the show where I look at Nebraska in the postseason where you. There's not really a hat to hang on about, like, feeling good about the upcoming year. Already making moves.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

To where we can sit there when the portal opens up January 2nd. Go through that six, seven day process, however long it is. Maybe a couple weeks. Yeah. I say six, seven quite a bit. I just realized. All right. Because you guys are always hitting this anyway. You're setting yourself up to have that optimism in 1Q26.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

So that's exciting.

[Taylor]

And by the way, 6, 7, I still don't really know what that is.

[Will]

No one does.

[Diego Pavia]

No one does.

[Will]

No one does. Even the kids. It's so funny.

[Taylor]

It's just a reaction. It's just, you hear, six, seven, let's react to it.

[Will]

Right. Basically, my tailing was given the whole, like, that's so dumb that the kids do this. Like, we never did like that. I'm thinking to myself, yes, we did.

[Jeff]

There's always been a 6, 7.

[Will]

Always been a 6, 7. It's just how generations want to do different. Yeah.

[Taylor]

But now we get to kind of kill it. Because I want to say the College Football Playoff committee, that guy who kind of did the six, seven. It's like, okay, that's. That's where we kind of can start to kill this joke.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Because it's in the wrong hands now. We're not laughing about this anytime.

[Will]

Adults over the age of, what, 30, you start doing it. Let's just say 40, you start doing that. It's like, buddy, hang it up. Like, at some point, you. To accept you're no longer the cool generation move on. I'm 34. I sit there and I'm like, my social media life ends with Instagram and Twitter. I still call it Twitter. And once the next thing comes up, I'm just gonna be like, I'm bowing out. I'm bowing out.

[Jeff]

Kids sitting in front of me. The Titans game yesterday, I'm not exaggerating. Was hitting the six. Seven more than he was not. And I was there the whole game, and I was just like.

[Will]

And his what.

[Jeff]

What made me laugh, though, is his dad was just like. I don't know if he was just completely, like, just numb to it at this point. He probably is. He's probably just constantly going at the house, but, like, he's just allowing it. It's just the whole time, he's just sitting there like. Like a.

[Will]

This is back to the dabs the kids are doing a few years ago. Kids are just freaking out. Then the. Whatever. What is this thing called? I don't know what that is. The Grady.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah.

[Will]

I'm glad you picked that up. It's like, there's always some going down. Our generation was the. Every day I'm shuffling, it felt like. And Soldier Boy. Crank that, Soldier Boy. And yolo.

[Taylor]

The Superman. Yolo.

[Will]

Yolo was a big.

[Cade McConnell]

And I.

[Will]

The yolo thing, to me, I was like, this is gay. Yeah, but Drake really didn't lean with.

[Taylor]

The rock with it. You know what I'm saying?

[Will]

I'm into that.

[Taylor]

Hey, kissy through the phone.

[Will]

Dude, the age my kids are at right now, they're starting to talk like, me. Like, my kids will like, oh, Dad, I just smacked that food. Oh, that. They, like, are speaking like me a little bit, and I'm kind of loving it. I'm loving where we're at. How I have my two little homies that are just like, like, I'll come home and win. And Will are like, hey, Daddy, we want to catch these hands. And they, like, we go and wrestle, and I'm just, like, throwing them on, and they just, like, kind of have these little mannerisms. It's like, oh, that's me.

[Taylor]

Hit them a little bit.

[Will]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I smoke my kids, dude.

[Mitch]

They say brekkie.

[Will]

No, they don't say brekkie, but, oh, I said something to win the other day. She goes, bro, what? I just like, what are we talking about? She, like, totally got me in a moment. I was like, I. That's me. That is me. We go to this tree. We go to a tree lot. Last night, I got a Michigan jacket on. I'm like, does anybody want to go with me? And Wayne's like, I'll go with you. So she goes upstairs and gets changed real quick. Comes down with a hoodie, has the hood on over her head, like. She goes, hey, dad. Kind of like. Like, leans towards him. I'm like, dude, you're the fucking best.

[Taylor]

So I'm you.

[Will]

I let her sit in the front seat. And so we rolled over the tree lot. Front seat. Bad dad move. But I did it anyway.

[Taylor]

So what's the bad dad move?

[Will]

Having your kids sit in the front seat? She's like, why can't I sit the front seat? I go, you see that right there? You see your face is at the same level as the dashboard? Like, if we get in a car accident, you're done, son. Like, it's.

[Taylor]

What. What age is? Like, what's the.

[Will]

I think it's more of a height thing. It's more of a height thing than it is. I think you got to be six, seven. Have to be. But no, I think it's a height. Yeah, it's an age or a height thing or a weight thing as well, because it has to hit you in the chest. But we were going. We were shooting a couple blocks away, and there's nothing cooler to a kid. Nighttime ride. Like when you know it's your old time and you're just ripping and we're, like, talking. I'm like, hey, I might get a truck. She's like, oh, what kind of truck are you getting? I said, I think I'm gonna get the Raptor. I think I'm gonna do this. And she's just like, now she's talking about the kind of truck she likes. She goes, I think when I'm older, I'm gonna drive a truck. I'm like, yeah, it's. I gotta think it's cool when girls drive trucks. I don't know why. And she goes, yeah, I'm gonna have a black truck with flames on the side. I'm like, oh, hell yeah, dude. Thinking to myself, I hope you grow out of that. But whatever. That's when. That's when. Yeah, the oldest, so it's just dope, dude. It's. I don't even know how I got on this, but it's just dope that my kids and I got on from.

[Taylor]

Six, seven.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Mitch]

How tall are you?

[Will]

I'm six. Seven. I am.

[Taylor]

People are tuning in.

[Will]

Is that getting me?

[Taylor]

Please subscribe.

[Will]

Yeah, please subscribe to this. Do you want to talk about Thanksgiving?

[Taylor]

Dude? Thanksgiving was incredible.

[Will]

Yeah. I think this spread. This was my favorite Thanksgiving I think we've ever had as far as, like, a. Everyone kind of enjoying themselves, camaraderie, the everyone visiting. Like, you're kind of jumping from group to group.

[Taylor]

A plus spread. Yeah, A plus gaming. We played werewolf there at the end. Yeah, it was. It was a plus. It was a plus Thanksgiving.

[Mitch]

Will played me like a fiddle.

[Taylor]

No, I did.

[Will]

He did, man.

[Taylor]

He.

[Will]

He definitely.

[Mitch]

He got me because I. I was the seer. And I'm like. Because I don't. I don't know how to quite operate if I am the Seer. Because you'll be like, I know this person's not it.

[Will]

Right?

[Mitch]

But. Because then the werewolves are gonna kill you next. So I'm like, hey, I checked. Dave just literally just shaking my head.

[Taylor]

And was like, all right, I bet I check this person next.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah.

[Mitch]

Then. So I'd be like, got you.

[Taylor]

Because Mitch and I had a game before that where we were both villagers, so we were kind of. We had kind of the bond going.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Mitch]

So I trust. I. I made the mistake and trusted Will, and he just played me like a fiddle. Next round. Next round. Like, where I got out, and I'm like, who. Why would they have gotten me?

[Taylor]

And then say, werewolves, wake up. And I just look over at you.

[Mitch]

And then I, like, will got out. I'm like, this motherfucker. I was so pissed off, dude.

[Will]

Will kind of got me on one too. I started to sniff it out a little bit, but I didn't trust my instincts of. We started around. Will was a werewolf, but Will immediately is, like, playing, like, buddy, buddy with me. Like, we're boys. It was the same round, and I'm. I'm starting to think, like, oh, sweet. Like, we're on the same team. But then a piece of me, like, I think it went into the second.

[Taylor]

Round because Chandler brought up where I was like, you'd be like, one of you two.

[Will]

The way people are killing, it's like, oh, this is like, willing town. I'm thinking, yeah, he's right. Like, that is kind of. You would go and get somebody that no one's really comfortable with that. No one.

[Mitch]

Crazy moves to kill Ryan's sister.

[Will]

Yeah, kill Ryan's sister right away, which is a smart move, because then the fingers start getting pointed at who's most comfortable with Ryan's sister. And then you get Mike next. And I'm thinking to myself, yeah, that would be a move we would make. So I'm starting to look at Will like, oh, how am I supposed to trust you?

[Taylor]

We're like, what?

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[Will]

Yeah. And then you start. And then Will and Taylin start getting everybody. Taylor's like, yeah, I think Taylor might be the guy, too. And I'm. It started to, like, click in my head, like, oh, I think this is the. Will is a werewolf. And maybe Taylor as well. But by that time, I was too far gone. Two people were turned on me. So I get killed. Devoted off the island. I'm like, how does this feel, guys? And I'm the pedestrian, the villager. And we'll go. Stick around. You'll find out who the werewolves are in a second. And everyone goes to sleep. And it's. Werewolves wake up. And Will just goes and looks at me and I'm like. And I look over and it's Taylor. I'm like, these motherfuckers. I sniffed them. I had them. I just Was too late. It was a good move. It was nice.

[Taylor]

It was fun.

[Will]

It was a fun game.

[Taylor]

It was a fun night, fun day.

[Will]

Matt's dad and I, we just went over there, like, 20, 30 minutes, bonded over gout. He went through it.

[Taylor]

Everybody bonded with Matt's dad.

[Will]

Yeah. Matt's dad is the man, dude.

[Taylor]

John.

[Will]

Big J. J train. Yeah, that's what they call him, the J train.

[Taylor]

They're telling those stories on their son Matt that he came out of the room. He's a little sideways.

[Will]

Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

Stretch them out. He's screaming.

[Mitch]

You're about to get a text from.

[Taylor]

I know. They're like, don't say this on the pod. I won't.

[Mitch]

It was so funny because I won't.

[Will]

Here we are.

[Mitch]

The Malones were just like. As much as we kind of dig on Matt, like, on. In, like, a loving way, like, they were kind of doing the same thing.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah.

[Will]

They were bodying Matt a little bit. It's kind of nice.

[Mitch]

Shout out to my trains.

[Taylor]

Like, he tell me he's going to the NHL. And, buddy, what are you talking about? You ain't going to the NHL. You ain't got the skill, you ain't got the size. And he just tell me, I swear to God, he's like, well, look at you now.

[Will]

That's so funny. But, yeah, Thanksgiving was awesome. Yeah, it was. It was a good time, man. Foul was there. Foul. I think he handled himself really well. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Are you guys cool?

[Will]

I was rat, literally. I was, like, racking my brain before they showed up, because Mitch and Foul are usually the first people to show up, which is awesome. But before they got there. I'm like, how am I going to act around foul? Because last time I saw him, he was like, acting like we didn't know each other was so weird.

[Mitch]

So weird.

[Will]

So I thought, oh, maybe I'll do a bit where it's like, hey, are we boys? Like, who are you? And I just decided I'm not even gonna play into that at all. I'm just, hey, it's Thanksgiving. Let's have fun. And foul showed up, and he was totally normal. I'm like, I guess you must have given him a talking.

[Mitch]

Yeah. When we were driving over, I'm like, hey, like, you need to dap Taylor up. Give him just, like, the most over the top dab me. Like, hey, nice to see you. Like, yeah, I apologize for being weird last time. And he didn't. I, I don't think. Yeah, I wouldn't assume that he would happen.

[Will]

Dude. When we were at the Titans watch party with the Cardinals, like, we go, we do the thing, we go up to a little area, the little bowling area, and foul walks up to me and kind of acts like we don't know each other. Like, I think he reintroduced himself or he did something weird.

[Mitch]

He shook your hand?

[Will]

Yeah, he shook my hand. Like, introducing himself or like, talking. Like, we're just meeting for the first time. And in my brain I'm like, bro, is this foul? But the way he's acting, I'm like, this must not be foul. It must be like a doppelganger. And so I kind of walk away. And then Mitch is walking by.

[Mitch]

Hey, you called, you called me over like, hey, come here.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

I'm like, yo, is that foul? And he's like, yeah. I'm like, that was the weirdest interaction I've ever had because I've met him numerous. A bunch of times. Yeah. Like, we're friends now.

[Mitch]

He's been at your house?

[Will]

Been in my house multiple years in a row. And the way he was asking me, I was like, that was so odd. And Mitch was like, yeah, I'll get down to the bottom. But that's weird.

[Mitch]

I, I, he, you walked around like, what the was that?

[Will]

Yeah, I was just like, it was so odd. But, yeah, we were fine.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it was good.

[Will]

And he. And I sat down, too. And I didn't realize he went to Susquehanna as well. Played football there. It all comes back down to that. He's dating a girl. He was about to move to Pittsburgh. Correct.

[Cade McConnell]

Philly.

[Will]

Philly. And breaks up with the girls with a movement with her. And so That's. He calls Mitch and he's like, yo, what's Nashville like? And Mitch is like, nashville's awesome. You should come down here. And that's essentially what got foul to move to Nashville.

[Mitch]

Yeah.

[Will]

Because he wasn't taking the job in Philly.

[Mitch]

I'm the reason he moved down here. But he refuses to say that.

[Will]

Yeah, he said that to me. So you'll have that. I guess this is word of mouth, but I'm just letting you know. So it was. It was nice, man. It was a good hangout. Good everything.

[Mitch]

Good food.

[Will]

I know, great food. But the baby, Jilly Bean, she was able to come. She got off work early.

[Taylor]

That was big time. That.

[Will]

That was big time. Yeah, that. That whole even or afternoon into evening was so much fun, much needed. Loved that both Ryan and Matt brought their family. It was so much fun getting to talk to Ryan's mom. Like, that was the. That was the highlight. She's a sweet.

[Taylor]

She was holding court at the end.

[Will]

Of the table, making us laugh, telling us stories about when Ryan was a baby. He would run a room with those baby blues. I'd bring him in there, and Ryan's just sitting there like, mom, it was incredible. Her and I were talking about just kids, and the kids are ripping around, like Delaney and Ernest's kid, what's his name? Ryman. He's like wrestling me on the ground, then haps coming over. He and I are wrestling. Win comes over, slaps me on the butt and runs away. And I go, hey, do you ever miss them being this age? She takes a deep breath. She's like, not at all. I don't miss it at all. I'm like, oh, really? Like, this is awesome. She's like, I love this. And she starts going into, like, the relationship with her and her kids. They seem like they have a great family dynamic. Yeah, the sister was awesome. Very nice. Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Super sweet.

[Will]

Yeah, super sweet. So, yeah, great Thanksgiving. Jeff, how was your Thanksgiving? You went to Atlanta?

[Jeff]

It was great.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

I went and visited my sister and her husband, their two kids down in Atlanta. My brother in law's basketball coach for Gwinnett College, Georgia. Gwinnett College is what it's called. They have kind of a busy season at the moment, so we went down there, tried to alleviate some of their traveling. I had the best, you know, standard Thanksgiving. Everything was great. Hung out with the family, watch football, did all that cool stuff. But my oldest niece just turned three yesterday, actually. Happy belated birthday, Izzy. This was the first time because she lives in a Different state that where I felt like I, like, made a breakthrough with her. She. It didn't take, like that kind of 12 hour, 18 hour periods where she starts to acknowledge, oh, I'm your uncle, or you're my uncle. You know, when we're cool, I. I don't have to have my mom close to me if we're going to be around. And I think she's honestly exiting her terrible twos. And then my sister sent me this video when I had gotten back from Nashville on Friday, and it was just like a secret video filming my niece. And she was just like, essentially saying that she loved me a lot and she missed me.

[Will]

What a feeling.

[Jeff]

And I was like, man, that's. That's really all I ever wanted. And then my youngest niece, Quinn, is like, running around now talking and kind of gibberish, but felt like I made a really big breakthrough with my nieces, which felt good. And just hanging with the family is always good.

[Will]

So, yeah, somebody else's kid to, like, really buy into you. It's such a great feeling. And, like, I feel like I kind of had that with Rue this weekend when she came over. Like, she came over, apparently she was, like, really excited to see Willow.

[Taylor]

Talks about it. She talks about winning. Willow, like, driving over, she gets all excited. Like, even the next day we're dropping off, she made. She baked cookies for a couple of her friends. She went like, dropped him off. But she's like, even trick or treat going drop himself off, going around people. She, she. She is super shy to where she won't talk. At first, I'm just like, hey, sweetheart, you got to use your strong voice. Like, have a big smile on your face. So when she got in and when she hadn't seen Willow yet, but when comes over, Win's talking to her's kind of just like standing there with a little soft smile and stuff. I'm like, sweetheart, you're talking about Win all the way over here. Yeah, here she is.

[Will]

Yeah, right there.

[Taylor]

When it's like, I like your dress. And we were just kind of like, smiling and stuff. Go ahead, sweetheart, rip around.

[Will]

I love it. And then. Well, yeah, so when they get there, there's like 10 kids upstairs in the attic playing. Because we have, like, this whole massive setup. And I'm with Will and Charlie. I'm looking at room. Hey, do you want me to take you up there? So it's just me and Rue, and then we get up, like, the first set of stairs, and there's like a little horse she wants to Ride the horse. So I take the horse upstairs with us, and it's just me and her, and she's like getting more comfortable. She's asking questions about the horse, how the horse works. It's like, what's this? I was like, you got a pump. Like, you got a pump to like, get it to move. And then she's going. She's like going straight to the walls. Like, no, you got to direct yourself. And so we're having fun. Then I take her upstairs to the attic area. And all the kids, like, Natalie, her oldest son, kato. Kid is 10 out of 10. 12 year old. Like, he is very. He includes all the other kids. He's great at playing with all of them. I always praise my children, like, being really good with younger kids. And so, like, all the kids kind of stop. I introduce Rue. She's very uncomfortable at. So I'm like showing her the dolls. Hey, if you want to play by yourself, you can kind of. This is your little area. But I left her up there for a minute and she was just having a blast.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Then by the end of it, this damn horse too. Like when it's. It's beyond bedtime or whatever, the kids are kind of breaking down a little bit. I see Ru crying in the hallway and she's got like, her. She's got her water, she's drinking her water and she's just crying and she's like, pumping. We gotta go home.

[Will]

Yeah, like that. That is the clearest, like, Christmas present from Uncle Taylor ever. It's gonna be one of those horses, like, from Uncle Taylor. The whole thing. Dude. When we were playing werewolf and Charles like, doing the whole thing and the baby, Scotty's like screaming her face off. She's like, everybody go to sleep. And she's still like, holding court. And then we wait longer so Charl can play a couple games. Scotty just screaming, screaming her face off, dude.

[Mitch]

And then Ryman. Ryman. I'm the werewolf. He's the werewolf. He was funny too.

[Cade McConnell]

Dude.

[Will]

Ryman is a psycho.

[Taylor]

Everybody trying to rip with their kids and control the kids. Trying to play. Let's get in the way. Everybody go to sleep.

[Mitch]

He ended up, like. I ended up just wrestling with Ryman.

[Cade McConnell]

For a little bit and just.

[Mitch]

He was just jumping over me. I'm like, as long as Ernest is cool with this, I'm fine with it.

[Will]

Oh, bro. Like that. That he. Ryman is a boy. Straight up, just a man. He's a menace. And I mean that in a good way. Yeah. Like, when I See him? We do this, like, little coffee bit we did in Florida one time. I was like, don't you take my coffee? And he, like, try to do it. So the minute I see him, like, got my coffee and he tries to snatch it. And then it's just him doing fists all around my crotch. He's like, right at the angle where he just does this. And it's like, thank God it's a small target. Like, he is barely missing my.

[Taylor]

He's one of those boys that's always like, ready to fight. It's kind of like, all right, Ryman. Yeah, Yeah. I came over. He's trying to, like, wrestle. He's like, you want to wrestle? And I said, you can try. And then he kind of just went away because I was like, giving him a look like, I kind of don't want you to wrestle me right now.

[Will]

I love personalities like his. I saw him go up to six different people and go, what are you doing? Just getting, like, right in their face and like, instigating conversation. Yeah, he was funny. I'll tell you who was on, man is Ernest. We were playing where he had some one liners during the whole thing. He's the werewolf. We don't know. And he's like, hey, can the werewolf just commit suicide? No, I don't think so. He's like, oh, he was.

[Taylor]

Everybody off the game.

[Will]

He was on one during that game. Started doing that old English voice.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

Talking about killing people. Dude. During Thanksgiving, we're sitting there right after the meal and we find out that we're on the college football game.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

26.

[Taylor]

Which is CFB ultimate team card.

[Will]

So. Which is amazing.

[Taylor]

Shout out EA Sports.

[Will]

Shout out EA Sports. I'll say this, since we've started this podcast, I feel like the vision of me as a football player has kind of done this. Like, people. People forget about the dominance that took place all 77 in college and in the NFL. They kind of forget. And the exact opposite has happened with Will. Like, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but like, Will's trajectory of. Of our careers. We've kind of done this in a lot of ways. And it's like, hey, how sick. We're in the ultimate game. That's amazing.

[Taylor]

Yeah, people.

[Will]

But then our. We're both the same. We're the same as far as.

[Taylor]

Remember how I made them feel with my play on the field. And I feel like it's finally getting the respect it deserves.

[Will]

Two time all American. Three time all Big Ten. Two time Big Ten offensive lineman of the year and Will and I were the same what was 94 overall, second team all big ten.

[Taylor]

I was in 89 with the impact player, star. People forget man.

[Will]

Same. They forget the new year six is.

[Taylor]

They forget the new year six.

[Will]

Pick six. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Back when it was the bowl games and you had the new year six. The new year six was named after my pick six against the Georgia Bulldogs in 20, what 13 since his Jan.1. Yeah.

[Mitch]

I think the crazy part is that Will speed is in 91.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

What is crazy about that?

[Will]

He ran a four five. Four five. I think we. We poked enough holes in that. We poked it up. Holes in Will's four fives.

[Taylor]

What do you mean poked enough holes?

[Will]

Like that's as we keep going. It's kind of like 45-6-456. Laser wasn't laser.

[Taylor]

We could call Dobson up right now. I know he's getting ready for the playoffs.

[Will]

No doubt Dobbs.

[Taylor]

I know he's got it documented. There was a. There was a young man from Bonter, Missouri sitting up on the 10 yard dash Nebraska records wall with a 1.47 in a 10 yard split.

[Will]

Who was it?

[Taylor]

Will he see, man.

[Theo Von]

Oh.

[Will]

So yeah, I just feel like my name's kind of getting drug a little bit. It's just a little bit. But you know, hey, respect to Will's career.

[Taylor]

I just have gratitude that I'm on the game. No doubt that they wanted to as you should put old Willie C in the game.

[Mitch]

Maybe we can get a Susquehanna car.

[Will]

To me is not in the game. Just making it.

[Taylor]

Hello.

[Will]

Oh, I got it. We gotta do something about security on this bus, man. Theo just pops up. We're here. Hello. But yeah, man, it is dope to be in the game.

[Taylor]

Yeah, that is.

[Will]

This is awesome.

[Taylor]

I don't even know how it works. Is it like you have like ultimate team and you open up different card packets or something like that.

[Mitch]

The way it works is like it's like you get these trading cards per se. Like your car, your guys's card.

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[Mitch]

You open up a package. It's like oh no, I got like the 94 will Compton like now. Now like you'll have Will Compton starting next to Navarro Bowman from Penn State and like who's like Jalen Ramsey at safety from Florida State. Like you're just. It's just kind of like collecting all of like the past players and like building like the ultimate like the best.

[Will]

Possible team and you can play or it's just like a card thing.

[Mitch]

No. So you like, you take your ultimate team and go against different ultimate teams and got you. There's like tournaments and prizes and that you can do. I. I used to be into it for a little bit, but then it's like as soon as the game comes out, people put 2, 300 into the game and then they all have. They automatically have the best players. And it's like, it's not even fun to do anymore, but it's like, it is. It's like a big deal. So it's like, it is really cool that you guys are in it.

[Diego Pavia]

Let's go.

[Will]

Let's just juice me up. Juices me up.

[Taylor]

Let's go, man.

[Will]

Are we. How are we feeling? Is there anything else we want to go over before we get in this awesome podcast with Diego Pavia?

[Taylor]

Yeah, we got Diego Pavia, Cade McConnell, Theo von Comes on the bus and joins the boys. We talk Heisman. We talk college football playoffs with Vanderbilt. Their season. It's a fun episode. Clark Lee, his extension. We have all those fun things. Dude. Another thing, by the way, Stranger Things, bro.

[Will]

How is it started it.

[Taylor]

Awesome.

[Mitch]

Do you watch all four?

[Taylor]

Yeah, all four in Ready for Christmas.

[Mitch]

That the. That final scene of.

[Jeff]

Wait, don't say anything. Please do not say anything. I'm on. I'm going into episode four. So I will get off if you guys.

[Mitch]

It's just.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Mitch]

Electric.

[Taylor]

Electric Super Saiyan. Yeah.

[Will]

Hey.

[Taylor]

Oh, I'm with you.

[Will]

I'm not.

[Taylor]

If you haven't started Stranger Things.

[Will]

Jack, have you seen the whole thing of Stranger Things? Yeah.

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[Will]

Okay.

[Jeff]

So you're like, I have not seen the very last episode that is currently available. They're doing season five and two installments. So one four episodes and then one of four episodes. So I've seen the first three of the first installment of season five. I'll finish it by tomorrow.

[Taylor]

And big opportunity for people who haven't watched it. You get on. You get to binge it now because it's the final season.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Taylor]

And the last. The last installment of the episodes come out on Christmas Day.

[Jeff]

Oh, is that when it is? The 25th?

[Taylor]

Yeah, the 25th.

[Will]

That'll be fun.

[Taylor]

It's good, man. They've crushed it with this last season so far.

[Will]

My kids are obsessed with the commercials right now between football games. And there's that Discover card one that has like the Stranger Things. And that was a full 20 minute breakdown about why this aliens and fires.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one's a. It got some goriness in this, doesn't.

[Jeff]

Yeah, they Said there's the most gruesome kill in the. I don't know if it's already happened again. Don't want to know.

[Will]

But the.

[Jeff]

The director said that they have the most gruesome kill of the whole series in this season.

[Will]

So. Yeah, you guys want a good piece of, like, nostalgia? Like, watching a show that you've never seen before but, like, gives you nostalgia. Sopranos. I'm in the middle of watching that right now. And just the. The time period it took place, knowing that, like, Sopranos was really the first show ever to kind of, like, start. Start everything that took place. Like, the entourage and the streaming. Like, it kind of, like, kickstarted all this, like, culture tv. Yeah. Culture of TV that we kind of live in now. And it's fun, dude. It's a fun little watch if you're ever interested in getting into it. Yeah, Sopranos is a little slower, but it's fun.

[Taylor]

It's been hard for me to get into because I'd never seen it either. I think I'm, like, in the middle of season two somewhere. Last time, when I was trying to watch it, last time, when I was trying to watch it, oh, I ended up. Dude, Family stone. How?

[Will]

Okay. What'd you think?

[Taylor]

I liked it. I thought it was a massive twister at the end.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Like, everybody getting. They just make a. A flop, a switch.

[Will]

That's wild. Right? Then the next Christmas, it's like, oh, we used to, but now we.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, who's.

[Will]

What's.

[Taylor]

Owen Wilson's brother? He's. He's great, bro.

[Will]

He's great. Family stone. Is that what you are? Yeah, Yeah.

[Taylor]

I just watched it over the weekend. It was like our first Christmas movie that we. We threw on. Char fell asleep, like, right away.

[Will]

Did you get a little teary eye with the mom?

[Taylor]

Yeah, I.

[Will]

That's. I. I watched him. Dude, that movie is so sad but incredibly heartwarming at the same time.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

Was it on? It's just a movie, so, like.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I think we went on Prime.

[Will]

Yeah, it's an older film. Yeah. But it's great. It was. It would technically be like a holiday rom com or.

[Taylor]

It's just a rom com. Yeah.

[Will]

No, no, it's. It's. It makes you want to have a massive families.

[Taylor]

They're introducing the. The girl to the family. They got all their little insight.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

They got all their little inside dramas. Oh, nice little twist at the end.

[Will]

Hey, how about the girl twist?

[Taylor]

That's just, like. I just feel like would never Happen.

[Will]

Yeah. It only works in Hallmark movies.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

Like, that would be such a weird.

[Taylor]

The most awkward thing of all time.

[Will]

Yeah. Of all time. And it's like, yeah, you got a.

[Taylor]

Little freak flag hanging from you.

[Will]

Yeah. But how about when they're at that dinner table and the dad slams his hands.

[Taylor]

Oh, he's saying stop.

[Will]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to get away too much, but that conversation makes you want to get out of your own skin.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

So uncomfortable.

[Taylor]

I know.

[Will]

But yeah, bro, it's a great movie. That was one of. If you look back at the cast, it's great. Crazy to think that obviously, like, Luke Wilson, very big now, but Rachel McAdams, that was like, one of her very first.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

Roles. Rachel, my Adam. Is that the girl in Wedding Crushers?

[Diego Pavia]

Yep.

[Will]

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm not great with names, but.

[Taylor]

And then you know that one.

[Will]

I know that movie. I'm trying to think of the other love interest. Her name. I forget.

[Taylor]

Yeah. From like the New York show.

[Will]

Oh, well, Sarah Jessica Parker, but Claire Danes. Claire Danes as well. Yeah. I'm not good with names, brother.

[Taylor]

She's an iron man, right? No, no, I'm thinking looks similar to Gwyneth Palace. She looks similar.

[Diego Pavia]

Looks similar.

[Will]

Looks similar. You're not far off.

[Taylor]

We got our true. Our true classic Gooner of the month. We do our employee of the month.

[Will]

This is a. A massive deal. I would just. Every month we have a gunner of the month. It's just great to give the nod to somebody. All the boys vote. It's just awesome. Say they're gonna get some money eventually.

[Taylor]

Yeah, eventually they'll get some money in their pocket. A little bonus.

[Will]

We've made a lot of promises that we have not kept.

[Taylor]

Yeah. But on that note, did you know.

[Will]

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[Taylor]

AI produced the Gooner of the month is brought to us by True Classic. Christmas season is coming up, boys. Is how I got to know True Classic very well. Made a massive order and now they are sponsoring the bus. And they have these new curved Pima shirts. And you can find True classic at Amazon and Costco, Sam's club, Target nationwide or [e-mail] Bussin look good, feel good, play good. They have shirts, hoodies, pants, jeans. Everything you need to feel good. And somebody that's been crushing it this past month.

[Will]

Envelope.

[Taylor]

You're in the envelope. Keep going. Keep it up, keep it up. Ryan Nolan.

[Will]

Ryan Nolan. Ryan Nolan.

[Jeff]

We want to get him on.

[Will]

Yeah, I'll text him.

[Mitch]

Wait, didn't he win it last month too?

[Taylor]

He might.

[Will]

Two to row.

[Taylor]

He did. He got. He got the votes.

[Will]

Kid's been on fire.

[Taylor]

This is the closest race. There were a lot of names that came from. Some people didn't even vote.

[Will]

Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Yeah, it's like, hey, get your votes out to Will and Taylor. I think we got like, what, six of them?

[Taylor]

Yeah. Six, eight.

[Will]

Okay.

[Taylor]

All right. Mitch, you did it. You texted. You shot a text. Yeah. A lot of names being passed around, but Ryan Nolan had the majority.

[Will]

How many guys probably texted? Like, 6, 7, 8. But yeah, dude, congrats to Ryan Nolan. Always. Is he coming on the bus? I texted him. He is yet to reply.

[Mitch]

Ricky probably rap.

[Will]

We could probably wrap. We gotta get out of here, man. We gotta go. And plus, I gotta call in 10 minutes.

[Mitch]

It's been six hours on the bus.

[Will]

We've spent six hours in the bus. Yet again.

[Taylor]

I've been recording for six hours.

[Will]

It's a lot, man. It's a lot. Is there anything we want to get off our chest?

[Taylor]

No. Definitely. Thank you to everybody who shopped on Black Friday or Black Friday sale. I was talking to Garrett last week. The sale started at 20 and I was kind of like, why are we doing 20? I thought now that we're. Now that we're away from the. The barstool universe, because we were tied to doing 20%, it's like, we can do more percentage now. Like, that feels more like a holiday Black Friday sale more. He's like, what number are you thinking? I was like, oh, I have no clue. I'm just kind of questioning. I thought we were going to go up from 20% last year. The last few years we did it. And so he's like, let's do 30. I was like, boom, I'm in. And then I come to find out, surprise, surprise, we did. Cyber Monday was 35%. So thank you for everybody. Shopping means a lot to the boys and get to spread the good news. Good news of busting with the boys.

[Will]

Just get more people in the merch, man. More people in the merch. Walking down the street, somebody sees another guy in Merchant. Hey, buddy, look at that. Oh, yeah, look at that. Hey, that. How about that, Will? It's crazy. He's the same as Taylor in the Ultimate Game. I know. In that nuts. And they just have a good time. It's a good little time. That's how you make relationships. Just the boys. Just the boys hanging out, being boys, man. So, yes. Thank you, everybody. Who did that? Unbelievable. Ryan said he's coming in one second. Okay.

[Mitch]

I think we're good.

[Will]

Yeah, we're solid.

[Taylor]

Let's get into a Pavia. Cade McConnell. And then eventually on the episode, Theo Vaughn joins the boys. It is a fun episode. Do not forget to subscribe. Big hugs, tiny kisses. We will see you tomorrow in the locker room.

[Will]

Boom.

[Taylor]

Josh Pate.

[Will]

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[Taylor]

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[Will]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. It is Tuesday 6am if you're tuning in, if you're a tier one, you got this thing dialed in and ready to go. We have some massive guests for us today, but this this interview is brought to you by Bud Light. Bud Light is always brewed with four simple ingredients for a clean crisp taste. Bud Light official beer Sponsors of the NFL at the NFL Draft Tight End University the UFC Shane Gillis 2025 Tour Bud Light partners include Peyton Manning, George Kittle, Taylor Lawan, Baker Mayfield, Will Compton, Emmett Smith, Shane Gillis Post Malone, Dustin Poirier Stuck up on Bud Light and head to www.budlight.com forward/locator to find a store near you. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Our two guests one individual who worked for busting with the boys over the summertime another individual who has found himself in my opinion as a Heisman trophy front runner Cade McConnell Diego Pavia.

[Taylor]

Around Applause for boys hey, what are the anchors of that incredibly good offensive line? Kate McConnell one of the yes.

[Will]

Anchor he went viral this.

[Taylor]

Year. He gets the Heisman intro well.

[Will]

Can yeah I mean is that one of your greatest accomplishments is working for bus with the boys? Was it the most fun you've ever had in your.

[Cade McConnell]

Life? It honestly as of right now is probably top three so it Was a good.

[Will]

Time.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. So these people would come back to practice by bro busting with the boys is best. And he would just brag on you guys all day at practice. It was like hard to focus. And then he talked about his girlfriend of course. And that's when it got.

[Will]

Annoying. So Kate, Kate's go to Beyonce is Kaden offensive lineman that like bitches about everything.

[Diego Pavia]

Everything. And think about this. So like we'll go hurry. We'll go hurry up. And sometimes like it was our last game against, I think it was.

[Will]

Auburn.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. And we just get the first down is like fourth and three and I didn't want them to review it because I don't know if we got it. So I went, hurry up. We're in an extra 6o line package and we have no burst place for a 6O line package. So I call this. There's six O linemen and I'm trying to move someone on the ball. So it's a, it's a legal play, you know. And anyway, time runs out, we call timeout. He's like, what the fuck are we doing, bro? What the fuck is coach calling? And the whole time it's me.

[Will]

Right?

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. So my cage. Just shut the fuck up up.

[Cade McConnell]

Bro. Yeah, he pisses me off a little bit. But you gotta love him. I mean, and you have to do what he says or you're in trouble. But then you get in trouble for being mad at what he says even if it's.

[Will]

Wrong. Is Diego the type of quarterback that just says whatever he wants during practice and the coaches don't say nothing to him about.

[Cade McConnell]

It? No, he gets in trouble, but it's almost like it doesn't matter.

[Diego Pavia]

Sometimes. But that's like, no, I get in.

[Cade McConnell]

Trouble. Yeah, he's.

[Will]

Lying. Speaking of getting in trouble, does Clark Lee know you're.

[Diego Pavia]

Here?

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Okay. Okay, cool. That's a.

[Will]

No. Yeah, yeah. You.

[Taylor]

Guys. Yeah, no, actually it's like I think a couple people might.

[Diego Pavia]

Know. Shiner. Yeah, yeah, we.

[Cade McConnell]

Know. All right, Coach me knows this.

[Taylor]

Time. How are you boys? Matter of, dude, Shane's called me twice. I'm gonna tell him that we're talking about how Vandy should get in over Notre Dame. Shane Gillis is called.

[Diego Pavia]

Twice. Oh, I.

[Taylor]

I sorry. I'm sorry. We're shooting a pod right now, bro, and our boy. Can I FaceTime.

[Will]

You?

[Taylor]

Sure. It's.

[Will]

Unbelievable. Is he mad you didn't.

[Taylor]

Answer? Yeah, he's mad you changed, dude. We're sitting here. Diego Pavi is in the middle of an Answer on why Vanderbilt should be in the playoffs over Notre.

[Will]

Dame. What's up, bro? Why does it have to be over Notre.

[Diego Pavia]

Dame? It don't have to be. Just put us in.

[Will]

I. What's, what's the guy's.

[Diego Pavia]

Record? 10 and 2 in the.

[Will]

SEC. Yeah, you guys should be.

[Cade McConnell]

In. Straight to the.

[Diego Pavia]

Point. He's a smart man. He'll crack some jokes, but at least he's.

[Taylor]

Smart. If it comes down to you and Vandy, he ain't taking you in Notre.

[Diego Pavia]

Dame. Yeah, and if it comes down to us or Notre Dame, I ain't taking in Notre Dame.

[Will]

Either. Who.

[Taylor]

Wins? Who.

[Will]

Wins? Who wins in a game, Notre Dame or.

[Diego Pavia]

Vanderbilt? Vanderbilt. What do we all like to know? Do a play.

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In. I don't.

[Will]

Know. Said do a play in. One, one of us is a.

[Taylor]

Top Heisman contender, the other one's a fat guy that's drunk. We're just. We were just shooting the. We were in the middle of the pod. I felt it happen. I was looking at your name, but Diego was sitting here answering a question, talking about something. I'm not just going to interrupt him and answer the phone. I got to be.

[Cade McConnell]

Respectful. All right, well, Jeremiah, no name gets.

[Will]

In. You want me to.

[Taylor]

Hit? You want me.

[Will]

To. Don't fall for.

[Taylor]

That. Yeah, all right. Love.

[Will]

You. All right. Hey, Diego. Your name. See you.

[Diego Pavia]

Guys. I say talk to you later.

[Will]

Brother. See you guys. What? What did he call.

[Taylor]

For? Who knows? I don't.

[Will]

Know. He's drunk. Like what, one in the afternoon on a.

[Diego Pavia]

Monday? What time is.

[Will]

It? Yeah, it's like one o'. Clock. That is hilarious. What are we talking.

[Diego Pavia]

About? He would get along really well with my.

[Will]

Brothers. We were sitting here in the summertime, Jack walks off the bus, you go, hey, we are going to run Tennessee. At the end of this whole entire thing, this is preseason. We're going to run it after we're done. All we have to do is win this year and then it's a wrap from that because we're going to have all the nil in the entire world and we're going to run Tennessee. You've essentially backed up your game. How does that feel to call your.

[Diego Pavia]

Shot? Well, one, I want to know what you guys thought when I first said that.

[Taylor]

Though. So when you walked, when you left the shop and you're talking about national title, all the stuff I was like Vandy about to get figured out real quick. Yeah, I did not think you guys would be in the position that you're in. Yeah, I didn't Mind the banter, the in state stuff because I wasn't jack. How did your guys's record end up? 9 and 3, 8 and 4. Like I was like, you know, it's not like I was extremely high on Tennessee. So that, that, that banter, us getting to watch it and ESPN showing that clip while you guys are playing in that game was all time. Yeah, but yeah, when you walked away from the shop, I was like, it's while you're cashing, trying to cash checks. I don't think he can, that they can, you know, back up, landed that.

[Will]

Plane. Yeah, my, my, my thought was last year you.

[Taylor]

Check. Yeah, he out there cashing checks he can't write like right checks he can't.

[Will]

Cash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't got enough money in the bank to write that.

[Taylor]

Check. Yeah, yeah.

[Will]

Yeah. My thought was, I thought you were a great runner last year and because of that you put yourself in opportunities to throw. This year you developed as a thrower. I thought you got a lot like a lot better at the deep ball. Appreciate you became a much more well rounded quarterback because I thought like the way you guys operated last year was like backyard football and that eventually is going to get figured out by high flying defenses this year. Every single game you guys were in, even I mean the Alabama game, you guys were you guys up early in that.

[Taylor]

One? Yeah, we were.

[Will]

Up. You were up early in that one. Texas seemed like it was starting to be a blowout. You guys, everyone's saying hey Vanderbilt can't come from behind. You guys came from behind and almost won the whole thing. Almost got the, the, the onside kick as well. So yeah, like I, I did not think what happened this year, what ended up happening this year was going to.

[Diego Pavia]

Happen. Well I think one, we got the Joe Moore were Joe Moore award winners in the locker room. So that's the best thing about it. And I think they set the tone obviously. And then that's how it just became so easy. We had the skill players all along. It was just do we have enough time to get them the ball? And this year we.

[Taylor]

Do. Even defensively you guys have played.

[Diego Pavia]

Well. Oh yeah, dude. Our defense, they single handedly wants the game against Missouri. Single.

[Will]

Handedly. Yeah, I mean that was a, that's quite the barn burner. But now we sit here, it's a Big Ten game for the first.

[Taylor]

Time you guys run the state of.

[Cade McConnell]

Tennessee. Snuck it.

[Taylor]

In. Katie's asking you what'd you.

[Cade McConnell]

Say?

[Taylor]

Sorry. I said, so you guys run the state of Tennessee going Back to Taylor's question, like, how's it feel knowing you called your.

[Cade McConnell]

Shot? I think after that podcast I had to defend us a little bit after he left because I think I was getting the flack that, that y' all wish you could have gave him when he was here. But no, I mean I agree with it, I agreed with it when he said it and so I'm just glad that it, that it happened and everything came true that we knew was.

[Diego Pavia]

Gonna imagine if it didn't though, you.

[Cade McConnell]

Know. Yeah, that'd be.

[Diego Pavia]

Rough. I guess we'll never.

[Taylor]

Know. I guess we'll never.

[Will]

Know. Do you. So are you saying Vanderbelt runs the state of.

[Diego Pavia]

Tennessee? I just think like from here on out, like we have the nil money one Coach Lee staying, which is.

[Will]

Wild. I thought he was gonna leave, which is.

[Diego Pavia]

Huge. And dude, now you're able to recruit anywhere around the country any 5 star, 4 star like before this year, like you weren't able to bring in those prospect to games. Now you see freaking some of the biggest prospects at our football.

[Taylor]

Games. What is you are, how much do you play hand in knowing that this is your last year play hand in recruiting some of these guys? Like oh yeah, a successor at quarterback. It's like you can't talk about Vanderbilt football for the last two years without you without Diego Pavia. And I know that there, there's talks out there of some, some five star cat like flipping his commitment to come be the quarterback at Vanderbilt. Like are you ever in to where you're like pitching the brand and pitching like what this place is like without you being.

[Diego Pavia]

Here? Oh yeah. I, I, I pitch it to Jared Curtis when, when I got to see him on one of our bye weeks, I went to one of his games and dude, that kid's arm is live. He is nasty. Like you guys are gonna see this kid, he's gonna take the college football world by storm. But he has to, he had, he has to beat out Blaze and that's what it has to come down to. Blaze is he's been with us at New Mexico State and two years here at Vandy. He's gonna have his shot and it's gonna be when there's competition, it levels everyone up, you.

[Taylor]

Know.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. So I think that'll be.

[Taylor]

Great. I love.

[Theo Von]

It.

[Will]

Yeah. This is the kid right here that's the talking about that.

[Diego Pavia]

Haircut. No, I.

[Will]

Haven'T. Should.

[Diego Pavia]

We. No, let him.

[Will]

Live. Let him live. Let him do his.

[Diego Pavia]

Thing. If he plays football good like.

[Will]

That, let him play yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

Yep. How do you guys feel right now being positioned on the outside looking into the College Football Playoff? Because clearly there's chaos everywhere. You guys have a great win over the weekend against Tennessee. You see this stuff going on with like, you know, Alabama's in the SEC championship against Georgia. Ole Miss is one lost team just got gutted with their offensive staff. Lane going to. Lane going to Ole Miss. You got. Yeah, yeah. Lane going to lsu. You got Texas making massive arguments now being a three loss SEC team. Who else is in that mix? Texas, Vandy, Miami. Miami. Yeah. You're. You're in all these spots. Notre Dame is a two loss game. You don't know what's going to happen. Like how do you guys feel sitting here today, 10 and 2 with your guys's.

[Diego Pavia]

Resume? You got to put us.

[Cade McConnell]

In.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. There's no other 10 and 2 sec team that's not in, you know. And you look at our losses too. Not saying losses are fine or whatever, but we played Texas, who beat the number three team in the nation, A M the other night at Texas, you know. And then you look at Alabama, they're in the SEC championship. Like we have. We are the best two loss team in the.

[Cade McConnell]

Country. We didn't lose at home either. Like those are both away games that we lost in two hard environments too. I don't think there's two better losses.

[Diego Pavia]

Anywhere. Now these neutral fields but look good.

[Taylor]

Though. But with the two losses, who are your two losses.

[Cade McConnell]

Too? Texas and.

[Taylor]

Bama. Alabama and.

[Will]

Texas. So Texas's argument is we beat Vanny. So Vanny's gonna get. And we should get. We should get in over.

[Diego Pavia]

Vandy. Well, Willie and say they beat A M. So they get over A and M. A M's gonna get in. Yeah, A M's in. A and M's.

[Taylor]

In. They're Georgia.

[Cade McConnell]

Wins. Georgia so Ford to get in now, like that's kind of the.

[Taylor]

Argument. Oh, this Florida. I don't know if that one's gonna work. Yeah, I don't know if that argument's gonna work at.

[Cade McConnell]

All. The head to head stuff is like if you're pinching pennies, you.

[Diego Pavia]

Gotta. I just think too, we're the hottest team right now. You go look at stats like we're the hottest team right now in college.

[Will]

Football. The argument too, if you keep Texas out is why would you ever schedule a big time game in the first part of your season? Well, like Texas lost to Ohio State. That's out of conference. Ohio State's the number one team in the country. And so Texas is not in the playoff because they played Ohio State Week.

[Taylor]

1. They're also not in because they lost to.

[Will]

Florida.

[Taylor]

Right. When you're talking.

[Will]

About. But if they're too lost, if Texas is a two loss team, they're in, right? They're in no matter what. Because brand, logo, everything. Like I think the basing hurting you guys right now is the logo. People don't see it as like okay, this is a, this is football. This is a football school. This is a smart school. Just like kind of like everybody. Even though Indiana sitting at the two seed people still have that brand recognition of being like, well that's a basketball school. It's still having a hard time for people to recognize and be like hey, this is a legit team.

[Diego Pavia]

Now. You're.

[Will]

Right. I.

[Cade McConnell]

Know. I think the brand stuff like if we had a Crimson A or a, you know, an orange T on us, we'd be number five team in the.

[Will]

Nation. You guys would definitely be in the playoffs. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely be in the.

[Taylor]

Playoffs. Yeah. I don't disagree with that. I think just the way everything's lined lined up right now I, I wish everybody could get in but you know like I feel like you guys are going to get, you guys are maybe the first one out of the.

[Diego Pavia]

Club. No, we can't.

[Cade McConnell]

Be. I think they got to put us in.

[Taylor]

Row. But what do you do as far as the, as far as the playoff structures lined up? I'm with you, trust me. I want Vanderbilt to be in.

[Will]

The. We're pro vandy in the.

[Taylor]

Playoffs. We're pro vandy. We're like anti the G5s and we don't think anybody from the ACC should get in this year. But if you look at how this stuff goes down it's like there's only going to be a couple spots open and what, how are you going to leave out Notre Dame when they've only lost to what Texas A M and Miami. And Miami. Then you got Miami, Notre Dame. Miami's been whooping teams as of.

[Diego Pavia]

Late. But who have they.

[Cade McConnell]

Played? They snuck by vt. Miami.

[Will]

Did. I.

[Diego Pavia]

Don'T. Yeah, player hate. You know what I mean? This is just like in all honesty who's, who's playing those real teams. That's why I think they're. Either one has to be like play ins or something or it has to be this massive schedule and you have to play freaking five SEC teams, five Big ten teams and see like if you're the.

[Taylor]

Truth. I was telling Taylor before we, we got on here. Like what, what if we could be fluid and just call it what it is right now? You take 10 locks and all these teams that are getting argued about, you get an eight man bracket and you guys just play into the.

[Diego Pavia]

Playoffs. I like that. I like that. Or yeah, just four extra, four.

[Will]

Extra games starting right.

[Taylor]

After. Whoever plays in has to play Ohio State because it'd be the lowest A.

[Will]

Seed. Yeah. Yep. But yeah, you're right. I mean, Notre Dame, they have two losses. They came at the beginning of the year, but who have they played since there's two losses? Not really anybody. Matier, he's hurt. I'm trying to look Alabama. Oh, Ole Miss is another argument. They lose their entire offensive.

[Diego Pavia]

Staff. Yeah, but they.

[Will]

Earned. So what happens? I, I agree with you. They earned it. But if you're logically sitting here and being like, they have such a high powered offense, you would think they lose the entire offensive staff. They're probably not going to go very far in the playoffs. They have earned.

[Diego Pavia]

It. But it's a, it's a player's game too.

[Will]

Though. The only, the only things I look at here is like, yeah, Virginia, Virginia should not be in even if they beat Duke. And this North Texas thing, I've said it for multiple weeks now, we've said it like the G5. To me, you have to be 12, 0 and murdering your competition. A week in, a week out. Like nothing close. And that just sucks. Like you're, you're, you don't, you don't play high competition. You guys are a 10 and 2 team that's in the SEC that has SE. Has most top 25 teams in there. So yeah, you guys should absolutely be in. Unfortunately, it seems like you have to, you have to position yourself and be mentally prepared for the idea that it's probably not going to.

[Diego Pavia]

Happen. I haven't mentally got there and I won't get.

[Taylor]

There. Fight. Take it.

[Diego Pavia]

Anymore. Well, when, when is the, the for sure bracket coming.

[Will]

Out? Well, there's. Yeah, next.

[Cade McConnell]

Sunday. Sunday after the championship.

[Will]

Games. They'll do the championship games and then.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. So do the championship games hurt these teams.

[Will]

Or. No, the committee has said it doesn't really hurt. They're. They're not putting a lot of weight in what happens. The problem is like, you got Ohio State and Indiana. They play in the Big.

[Diego Pavia]

Ten. They're going.

[Will]

Regardless. They're going regardless. But it's like, why, okay, if it doesn't matter, why would you even play in the Big Ten championship? Same thing goes for if Al, like Some of the argument is if Alabama loses to Georgia, does Alabama now get kicked out of the playoff because they're sitting at.

[Diego Pavia]

10. That's.

[Will]

Crazy. Right? Which might look good for you.

[Diego Pavia]

Guys.

[Taylor]

Yeah. But again Bama becomes a three loss team that was the number one ranked team in the SEC playing in their championship game. They lose, are you going to leave them out as a three loss team that's only lost to. It'd be Georgia, Georgia, Georgia twice. And then Alabama lost to Florida State.

[Diego Pavia]

Oklahoma. Yeah.

[Will]

Yeah. But if they lose SEC championship, you'd be only one loss to Georgia.

[Taylor]

Though. Yeah.

[Will]

Yeah. Oh, that's.

[Taylor]

Right. Georgia. Yeah. Because they beat.

[Will]

Georgia. At Georgia you guys kind of just always beat Georgia. Right. Like you guys records kind.

[Taylor]

Of. Yeah, they need to this weekend. But again it's like they're nine and three. They'll still have a case because they win their championship game and they have a case because like. Okay, do you put 10 and 2 Vanderbilt in? Well, head to head. They beat Vanderbilt. They beat you.

[Will]

Guys.

[Taylor]

Yeah. So that's where it's, that's why it's like as fans we love the chaos. I love all the arguments, debating. But if they're like, if I'm looking at a way that Bandi gets in, I just. It's going to be a hard road for Vanderbilt to get in. Mm. Just based on the structure of.

[Will]

The College Football Playoff in your mind, is there, is there a world they get in? Because I don't think there.

[Taylor]

Is. I don't want to tell.

[Will]

Now. No, but there is a world. They have to come tell us how Vanderbilt gets in the.

[Diego Pavia]

Playoff. They have to come to their.

[Will]

Senses. But that, that's.

[Diego Pavia]

We. But you're talking about.

[Taylor]

Season. Like to me, Bama would have to get.

[Diego Pavia]

Killed. I'm just saying these, these other bubble teams like Sherm, if you write.

[Will]

Everybody. No, no.

[Cade McConnell]

Okay. He'll byu, we don't have.

[Will]

One. Oh, so you just say it and I'll repeat it. They need Texas Tech to win. They need Texas Tech to win. Uva to win, then you UVA to win. And they need Alabama to lose. Alabama to lose.

[Diego Pavia]

Bad.

[Taylor]

Bad. I think Alabama needs to lose bad. If they're not going to get.

[Will]

In the Cosmo, we're talking A bad beat, multiple touchdown. B. If that happens, you think Vandy gets in. What about Duke beating Virginia? Yeah, but then, then you're putting in another. You have, you have to put in according to Josh Pay. What? Like.

[Taylor]

A. If Duke wins, Duke's not going.

[Will]

To be a high Ranked a different conference.

[Taylor]

Champion. Two G5 teams are going to get.

[Cade McConnell]

In. If Duke wins. Jam, you get.

[Taylor]

10. I've seen jam. You'll win their championship. They're favored right now by like 21 and a half points. Jamie will win and they're. Because they're ranked. And then North Texas and Tulane play their championship this weekend. Weekend, they will both be ranked above Duke. So two G5 teams will get in, both coaches. And the JMU coach is supposed to be going to.

[Will]

Ucla. Now I know you coach going to.

[Taylor]

Ucla. Summer, that's got to be the first job, bro. Because of taxes this.

[Will]

Game. Taxes. And you're the second best team in your city and there's not a whole lot. Have you been to Pasadena? It's. The stadium's an hour away from.

[Diego Pavia]

Campus. Oh.

[Will]

Dang. Seriously? Yeah, it's far. It's a lot of fans. No, no, no, it's. It was. It's like Vanderbilt pre.

[Diego Pavia]

Pavia. I don't know about.

[Will]

That. No. Hey, that's just real. There was no.

[Diego Pavia]

Fans. Oh, no.

[Will]

No. I just.

[Diego Pavia]

Didn'T. I haven't been to a vanity.

[Taylor]

Game. No. But that's kind of how the, that's like the playoff structure. It's not like the 12 best teams get.

[Will]

In.

[Diego Pavia]

Right. So maybe, maybe they just implement something next week. There's the play ins before the.

[Will]

Playoffs. You think that's coming to their.

[Cade McConnell]

Senses? There is a.

[Will]

Chance. Who would be, who would be in the plans if you could put four teams in the plans or eight teams, whatever it.

[Diego Pavia]

Is. What would you like the bubble teams with like the, the G5s and then the 9.

[Will]

8. So you go 13, you go 11, 12, 13, 14, 15.

[Taylor]

16. It's like here's the, here's the 8. You go Virginia, BYU, Miami, Notre Dame.

[Will]

Vanderbilt. You keep putting, you keep talking like Notre Dame's not just in, they're.

[Taylor]

In. They might not, but I'm.

[Will]

Saying. But I'm sitting at nine right here. They're in.

[Taylor]

Bro. How are they in the same? Like what is it? The comparable pool or whatever is Miami. It's like Miami's got them on the head to.

[Diego Pavia]

Head. Yeah. So Miami has to.

[Taylor]

Be. That's what I'm saying. If we're going to talk about eight teams that are on the bubble.

[Will]

That are being argued about, but as this, this chart says right now they're the number nine seed. They're in. That's not going to change. Notre Dame will sit at 9 again. And if they're sitting, if you're Sitting in the top 10 going into next week. You're.

[Taylor]

In. Can you pull up which pulls up? Which makes up Notre Dame's been whooping everybody by like, yeah, double.

[Will]

Digits. They haven't played anybody. You're right. The only two teams they played, they lost against. They should have beat A M.

[Diego Pavia]

But they didn't have a crazy.

[Will]

Thought. What's your thought.

[Diego Pavia]

Ghost? Using the Ohio State, Indiana example, since they're both in guaranteed, why not.

[Will]

Use that game as the play in.

[Taylor]

Opportunity? You're saying if you're gonna take.

[Will]

Away. So how.

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[Taylor]

Bottom.

[Will]

Yeah. I don't disagree with you. I think the conference championship should be dead. Like, it needs to go to like an NFL situation where it's like, oh, well, who has the best record? Okay, you're the SEC champion. You have. Yeah. You have the tiebreaker. You're the SEC champion, you're the Big Ten champion. Move.

[Taylor]

On. Let's just blow it up.

[Will]

Man. Let's blow it up. I love the idea of a play. I think the play in is unbelievable. And then he. But then you gotta play the one.

[Diego Pavia]

Seed. Fine with that. Just give us a.

[Will]

Chance. I love your attitude, dude. I love.

[Cade McConnell]

It. Once we're in, we're.

[Taylor]

In. Anywhere, any place.

[Diego Pavia]

Anytime.

[Will]

Hello. What is. Did you pull up Notre Dame schedule shroom? Let's get that. Let's get that pulled.

[Taylor]

Up. I mean, Notre Dame's been.

[Will]

Mopping. Teams.

[Taylor]

Mopping. I get that. They haven't played anybody.

[Will]

But like, you think they should be.

[Cade McConnell]

In. If you put us Notre Dame, I think whose resume is better? That's the thing. You got to think about.

[Taylor]

Who'S. Which.

[Cade McConnell]

Teams. Us, Notre Dame and Miami in a. In a bowl. And you look at the resumes. Whose do you pick is the.

[Will]

Best?

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. If you took all the logos and everything off and just put out a platform of numbers and stats, everyone would pick.

[Will]

Us. I.

[Taylor]

Don'T. Everybody in the.

[Diego Pavia]

Sec. No, everybody around the.

[Taylor]

World. I mean, I just told you just Learned about the G5. And listen, I'm a week ahead of you. I just learned about it, too. I like Notre Dame. I think it's Notre Dame over everybody.

[Will]

Else. Oh, if you're taking. What would you say? Miami, Vanderbilt and Notre.

[Cade McConnell]

Dame.

[Will]

Yeah. That seems like a crazy. I grew up a fan of Notre Dame bias. Could be because their schedule, like, is this the top. Okay, so they. Notre Dame loses to Miami, then they lose to Texas A and M. You don't think.

[Taylor]

Notre.

[Will]

Dame. They beat Purdue, they beat Arkansas. Arkansas's bottom at the barrel in the, in the SEC. They beat Boise State, NC State. They beat USC at home. Boston College, Navy, Pittsburgh, syracuse, Stanford. That's 70. They have one top 25. One top 25 win. Pull up. I will do Miami last. Pull up Vanderbilt schedule. Because that to me is like very weak. That's a very weak schedule. You had two teams that were like formidable opponents. You beat or you lost.

[Cade McConnell]

To. This is going to get us into the current.

[Will]

Ranking. This is, this is Vanderbilt. So you guys, you guys. Okay. Charleston Southern, doesn't matter. Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech was. Were they ranked at this.

[Taylor]

Time? They fired their coach like after that.

[Will]

Week. After that week they did. You're right. South Carolina was a top ten.

[Cade McConnell]

School.

[Will]

Yeah. At the time, JP at their place. At their place. So to me, That's a top 10 win. Georgia State doesn't matter. Utah State doesn't matter. Alabama. Listen, you lost Alabama, LSU. Was LSU ranked when y' all played.

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[Will]

Yeah. Okay, there's another rank. LSU sucked, but at this time they were ranked in the top 25. Can you not zoom.

[Taylor]

In? That's the SEC game for.

[Will]

You. Missouri ranked at the.

[Diego Pavia]

Time.

[Will]

Yep. Texas. You lost at Texas. Almost came back. That score doesn't show. They kind of handle.

[Taylor]

Joe. It also doesn't show what could the ass will.

[Will]

Become. Auburn, Kentucky and a ranked Tennessee team at Tennessee. So that's four Tennessee, that's four ranked wins, two in the top.

[Diego Pavia]

10.

[Cade McConnell]

Yep. On the.

[Will]

Road. On the road. So that schedule alone, that blows Notre Dame out the.

[Taylor]

Window. I don't think it blows Notre Dame out the.

[Cade McConnell]

Window. Explain to me how syracuse in.

[Taylor]

Week 11, you're looking.

[Will]

At. You're looking at the results of the season when these teams played. When they played South Carolina, South Carolina was a top 10 team. When they played Missouri. Missouri game. They ended up not being good. We're talking about the beginning of the season when all the hopes and dreams are still alive and we're kind of now figuring out that South Carolina's offensive line.

[Taylor]

Sucks. I want Vanderbilt to be in the playoff too. I've just. You're. You're asking me out of Miami, Notre Dame and Vanderbilt. Who like which resume am I sitting there looking at to be in the.

[Will]

Playoff? Here's.

[Taylor]

Mine. Who like all their arguments, they're going up against like if you get again a three loss Alabama or three or lost Texas that are pleading their case. They both beat Vanderbilt head to head. And I know like, I'm talking about both sides of My mouth with Miami, Notre Dame. I, I don't care which, any. Any of them that go in. I think they're all like good programs. But if I'm going to sit there and ride whatever, whoever seems like they got the juice going into the playoff right now. It feels like Notre Dame as much as anybody else. It feels like Vanderbilt. You can make a case for.

[Will]

Vanderbilt. Notre Dame has more juice than Vanderbilt right now after they went to Knoxville and donkey stomped the.

[Taylor]

Vols. I think Vanderbilt has every right to be in the college football full.

[Will]

Playoff. Right. We're talking about strength of schedule. We're talking about resume. Resume wins. And I just listed out for you Notre Dame schedule, their wins and losses and then Vanderbilt, Notre Dame. And you're looking at me going, I don't. I can.

[Cade McConnell]

Agree. Miami's out.

[Taylor]

Of. Notre Dame has won 10 straight by double.

[Will]

Digits. Who have they.

[Cade McConnell]

Played? They beat Syracuse by 63 in week.

[Taylor]

11. They had like 30 some points for that.

[Will]

Offense. Their. Their problem is they're a victim of the conference they play.

[Cade McConnell]

Playing. Yeah, there is no.

[Will]

Conference. Well, it's acc. It is a conference. So Miami. Miami beat Notre Dame.

[Taylor]

Right. But Miami also lost.

[Will]

Bcu. I don't know what BCU.

[Taylor]

Is. SMU in.

[Will]

Louisville. University of South Florida. They just beat Florida the week prior to the week before this. Then they beat Florida. Then they beat Florida State, which at this time. Were we still all, all about Florida.

[Cade McConnell]

State? No, it's in October.

[Will]

That's. I.

[Diego Pavia]

Think. I think it was still.

[Will]

Hot. Yeah, Florida State was still hot then. So that's a good win to me. That's a top 25 win. Louisville. They lost to Louisville. Crazy loss. Stanford lose to smu. Were they ranked at the time? Okay, not a great win. Syracuse and then so on and so forth. They go undefeated since then. If you're looking at all three of those schedules. If anybody besides Will disagrees with me, like, like Vanderbilt has the, the best. The best wins there are we. And this is you. You've even said like SEC has the most depth out of any conference, including the Big.

[Taylor]

Ten. Yeah, I agree. I personally, I'm not like trying to be right. I'm just giving you my opinion on who I think they're going to put in the.

[Will]

Playoff. I want to talk about who we think they're going to put in the playoff. I think they're going to put another name in the playoff. I'm saying who's more deserving in your mind based on.

[Taylor]

Schedule. It's. It doesn't matter to me. Like I, I, I wish all three of these teams could go in. Like I'm not sitting here home run. Like yes, I'm going to root for, for the local team Vanderbilt, but they're going to be in a situation to where they're arguing with like a Texas and again if Bama loses this weekend they're going to be arguing with that and then if Bama wins and you have all these SEC team, all these SEC teams in, it's like you got enough SEC teams in the College Football.

[Diego Pavia]

Playoff. It's supposed to be the best 12 teams in the country.

[Cade McConnell]

Though. So why does conference matter if there's six ACC.

[Taylor]

Teams? Because you guys have already kind of sorted yourselves out.

[Diego Pavia]

Out. So wouldn't it be smart for these teams to just drop out of their conference? Just play cake.

[Will]

Cakewalks. I don't.

[Taylor]

Yeah. If we're not talking. If you're Texas, you want to have a cakewalk because if that loss to Ohio State keeps them out of it as a three loss team, knowing that they've beat you guys and the College football playoff is going to put you guys in and they beat you guys because they have one extra loss because it was Ohio State that they scheduled early in the year, they're going to think to themselves we need to have a cupcake team. So that way we could be 10 and 2 arguing against a 10 and 2 Vandy going.

[Will]

In. If Michigan, because they have the game upon you. Are we arguing for Michigan?

[Diego Pavia]

Right. Yeah, for.

[Will]

Sure. Do I. Michigan doesn't schedule Oklahoma the second game of the year. We're essentially arguing for a 10 and 2 Michigan.

[Taylor]

Team. Yeah. Yeah.

[Will]

Absolutely. That's crazy.

[Taylor]

Yeah. And then you get away from the excitement of all these big non conference games that you want to see because all the big dogs are going against each.

[Will]

Other.

[Taylor]

Yeah. But now you pull back realize like yeah, when did you're trying to play the schematics and strategy for getting the College Football Playoff. You don't want to. If you're playing nine conference games which I know the SEC is going to. It's like you don't want to play anybody else outside of the conference that's worth the. Because you don't want to risk it trying to get into the.

[Will]

Playoffs. I.

[Cade McConnell]

Agree. When did Texas schedule House.

[Will]

State? Yeah, it's like what, six, seven years ago. Oh, here we go. I actually don't even mean to do that either. Everyone just. Yeah. But I think that is a huge issue with college football. Then if, if you're going to take away People's strengths of schedule as a reason to keep them in or out of a playoff. Then there's something wrong going on with. With all that. Because you can't. Because what does Texas play Ohio State next year in Texas at Texas. Right. And Oklahoma comes up to Michigan and it's like, if you're any of those schools, why don't you just go, we're not going to play this.

[Cade McConnell]

Game.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Let's figure out how to get.

[Will]

Out. Yeah, we're going to schedule Central Michigan. Texas is going to schedule North Texas. Texas. Who is in the playoff. That makes no sense. Yeah, that's crazy. Which. We should probably go to that game. That game's going to be.

[Taylor]

Sick. Which.

[Will]

One? The September 12th. Next.

[Taylor]

Year. The one that we need to go to is LSU at Ole.

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[Will]

Yeah. Oh.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Dude. How would you guys. How would you guys be feeling if you're a player on Ole Miss's team right now on the offense? You're the.

[Will]

Quarterback. Yeah, the.

[Ad Read]

Quarterback. I.

[Diego Pavia]

Would. I don't know who's gonna. Who's. Because Lane calls the plays. Right. And he took.

[Taylor]

Everyone. He took the oc. I'm assuming the quarterback coach. Yeah, I think the receivers coach. Receivers coach. But yeah, let's just say Clark Lee, your play.

[Will]

Caller. That's the exact.

[Taylor]

Situation. Yeah. Clark Lee signed the extension right.

[Will]

Now. But you're okay. You're a senior here. This is everything you've worked for. You're at a school with the most. With the greatest winning season your school has ever had. And then your coach ups and leaves while you guys are in the playoffs. You're a senior after this, there's no more college football for.

[Taylor]

You. And you're. And your play caller, like, they leave. They're gone.

[Will]

Yesterday. How are you feeling right.

[Diego Pavia]

Now? We can get some plays.

[Will]

Together. No, listen, I love that. I love your mentality.

[Taylor]

Bro.

[Will]

Yeah. And that's kind of what we talked about is like, those Ole Miss players are going to live in that delusion of like, hey, doesn't matter. We're going to go focus on this. They're probably not feeling the pain or the hurt of anything. The reality is, is you have great football players, but if you don't have the right scheme and play calls, you're going to. You're going to.

[Diego Pavia]

Fall. Lane can draw it up.

[Will]

Too. Lane can draw it.

[Diego Pavia]

Up.

[Will]

Yeah. And so it turns into. It might not hurt these Ole Miss players feelings right now, but we get three weeks from now, four weeks from now, they're in that first round. They lose in the first round. They're sitting there going, what if? Yeah, what if? And you just. You just wasted the senior.

[Cade McConnell]

Season. That's.

[Diego Pavia]

Rough. That.

[Cade McConnell]

Sucks. I don't know what I.

[Taylor]

Do. Would you be able to separate, like, logic from emotion on feeling a type of way about your. Yeah. Your.

[Diego Pavia]

Coaches. Yeah, for sure. 100. I remember at New Mexico State, when everyone was leaving, it was like, okay, they got to take just, like, everyone hitting the portal now. They have to do what's best for.

[Taylor]

Them.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. I.

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[Diego Pavia]

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[Will]

Too.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. He's got some aura to.

[Will]

Him. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he absolutely.

[Diego Pavia]

Does. The guy is.

[Will]

Awesome. He's got. He's definitely got some to him. For sure. I think it's. We were. We were breaking down the whole thing. The whole tweeting from his dogs account thing was nuts. I didn't know about that.

[Diego Pavia]

Until. He is a troll, isn't.

[Will]

He? Yeah, he is a massive train old.

[Taylor]

Dude. I love it. As a fan, sitting back, I'm just. I was sitting there saying, like, dude, if. If we were on this run and Polini and the staff left, like, right before you go into the College Football Playoff and have this historic run, like, I'd be feeling some type of.

[Cade McConnell]

Way. Yeah. Be.

[Taylor]

Rough. I'm like, damn, bro. Like, everything that we were wanting to pursue. You want to win a national title as a head coach, we got. We're here, we're here. What are you needing? And that's the emotional side of the brain, obviously. If he's sitting there, Lane sitting there, and he feels like his calling is going to ultimately ending up at lsu, which I hope it is, because if it happens again in a few years, that would be brutal. Yeah. Yeah. Goes to Florida, goes. Leaves for the NFL or something. But I get. I get Lane. It's like, it's a tough decision to make and one that you have to make and, you know, hopefully you handled the best way possible, but ripping the band aid off would suck as a player in that.

[Will]

Line.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Would y' all want him to.

[Diego Pavia]

Coach you in the playoffs even though you know he's leaving?

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Yes. That's better than him. I think he's leaving. But he asked for that, and they didn't let.

[Cade McConnell]

Him. Yeah, I think I saw the players asked.

[Will]

Too. Yeah. But, buddy, if you're the ad, there's no way you can let the head coach. He's gonna sit there and he's gonna be like, hey, listen, I know this is great. We gotta win these games. But I got a spot for you at lsu and you're gonna go. Like, you probably feel the same way about Clark Lee. If he was, if he was leaving, he was like, you should come with. You're probably gonna go with his.

[Diego Pavia]

Relationship. Everyone's doing that.

[Will]

Regardless. Our list though, no doubt. But there's difference between a phone call taking place, an agent, someone like a middleman, and something being in the building with you every day. Like boys, this is our game plan this weekend. So. And so, by the way, if any of you guys want to go to lsu, except for you and you. You guys, you guys can for sure come with me anyway. Like, that is a.

[Taylor]

Crazy. Yeah. If you're, if you're the ad.

[Will]

There'S. You're kidding. Yeah. Yeah. And I bet you there's a piece of it that's like, man, should we let them? And then quickly it's like, no, we can't let that happen. Cannot let that.

[Taylor]

Happen. Just the bludgeoning out there at Ole.

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[Taylor]

Year.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. Wait, who else is competing for.

[Cade McConnell]

It? The semifinalist list is up. I don't know. I think regardless of who's in it, honestly, I think we have the Heisman behind us and, you know, obviously that helps a lot. But I think what we've been able to do balancing, you know, we just ran for 315 in Knoxville. That's pretty crazy. Diego threw for 500 yards against an SEC team. Like we can do both. You know what I mean? I don't think there's anybody else that can really compare to that as well as having. You know what, who I think is the best football player in college football behind us. That helps us a.

[Will]

Lot. Right? You got Cincinnati, Duke, Georgia Tech, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan, Oregon, Texas A M, Utah, Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt.

[Cade McConnell]

Vanderbilt. It's in alphabetical order. It's got to.

[Will]

Be. Yeah, I'm fired up. I'm fired up that Michigan's in this. No idea. Michigan was semifinalist for.

[Cade McConnell]

This.

[Will]

Yeah. Three starting freshmen on that offensive.

[Cade McConnell]

Line. Yeah, it's crazy. They've done good with that.

[Will]

Too. They've done. Because they were. It seemed like they're going to be a liability early in the year and they really turned it around. Yeah, that's. I mean, it's a good list of people right there. And definitely having a Heisman candidate behind you as just like Diego did. He pointed out, like, hey, I got the Joe Moore winning. Joe Moore Award winning off its line in front of me. Like, you guys are both complementing each other based on individual and group.

[Cade McConnell]

Accolades. I think another thing that helps too is we have the Remington center as well. I think. I mean, he's like A four.

[Will]

Time. He's a little savage, too. He's always popping off the.

[Cade McConnell]

Screen. He just won his fourth sec.

[Diego Pavia]

Alignment. Oh, my God. He's the.

[Will]

Best. Did he.

[Cade McConnell]

Really. Fourth in a season? Like, like, that guy's.

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[Will]

He's.

[Cade McConnell]

He. If he doesn't win the Wimmington, it might be worse than if Diego doesn't win the.

[Will]

Heisman. Like, oh, he deserves it that.

[Diego Pavia]

Much. Oh.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Oh.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. He's.

[Will]

Nice.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Parker Braille Street. I think Alabama is a really good football player, too. Slaughter at Florida is really good at center, too. But Jordan. Jordan.

[Will]

Is. Slaughter's not going to win it, though, even if he is. Because I was reading up on Florida and watch some of their games, and everybody was like, the offensive line is a strength of this team that has a lot of talent all around them. And because the record, you're never. It's always. It's always record based when it comes to these kinds of.

[Mitch]

Awards.

[Will]

Yeah. Which. Which are tough. That's why. Is that.

[Cade McConnell]

The. Is that rushing or all around yards per.

[Will]

Game? Yeah, Oregon's nice, bro. They got a good.

[Cade McConnell]

Squad. They.

[Will]

Do. We've been around them. They were rushing for what, 6.7 yards per.

[Taylor]

Carry? Something like that at one.

[Diego Pavia]

Point. Dude, we're like top five in every single category, and we're not in the playoffs. Is that not.

[Will]

Crazy? Dude, I'm with.

[Taylor]

You. No, dude, I think I. I think it's crazy. Again, you guys should be in the playoffs. I'm just saying all of the, all of the arguing and debates around it, like, you guys are just in this bubble spot to where everybody, Every team with all these separate schedules, like, everybody's got some argument that they can lean on. Like with Miami, Notre Dame. Miami beat them head to head, which they can lean on. Notre Dame's been a little hotter down the stretch than Miami. Notre Dame has that to lean.

[Will]

On. Miami just beat Pitt by more than what, Notre Dame beat Pitt two weeks.

[Taylor]

Ago. Yeah. Which is, I think, when it.

[Will]

Comes to schedule, Notre Dame's third in the list of those.

[Taylor]

Three. Yeah. But again, Notre Dame's 110 straight, you know, I mean, whereas they've had these close losses to great teams in Alabama and Texas, Texas is a team on the outside looking in, trying to argue their.

[Cade McConnell]

Spot. So, like, there's.

[Diego Pavia]

A. You're.

[Cade McConnell]

You're. Are you doing a momentum argument with that, like, 10 straight? Is that what you're like.

[Taylor]

Saying? Like, I'm saying, if, if you're Notre Dame arguing for it, you have 10 straight over everybody else because you guys had a couple bumps with tough games. And then Miami's lost to, like, Louisville and smu, which again, you brought up which Miami needed to beat Pitt worse than Notre Dame did, which is dumb as that sounds like. That is a good. That is like a good thing to lean on. And they have the head to head over Notre Dame, too. But if you're Notre Dame, like, that's what you're obviously seeing. You are obviously sitting there arguing is your Heisman candidate the way this team's played compared to how they played in the first game against.

[Cade McConnell]

Miami.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. They also haven't played any 110 straight either.

[Cade McConnell]

Though. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Right. Which. Which again, come out to argue that it's just all. Everybody's trying to prop what the resume is. That's kind of the. That's kind of the spin.

[Diego Pavia]

Zone. It's like, whose problem is better.

[Will]

Huh?

[Taylor]

Yeah. I mean, looking at it, you guys would be sitting in the best.

[Cade McConnell]

Spot.

[Will]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad you finally.

[Diego Pavia]

Got. I don't.

[Cade McConnell]

Know. They can. I don't know if I was.

[Taylor]

Just arguing for all of.

[Will]

You. No, you were arguing for Notre Dame and then you.

[Taylor]

Switched. Yeah, I know, but you're going through their schedule saying, like, South Carolina is a top at the.

[Will]

Time. At the.

[Taylor]

Time. But again, that's the.

[Will]

Thing. That's the thing that bothers me, man, is like, if you beat a team and they have a number next to their name at the time you play them. That's how the world is perceiving them. Yeah, we get farther down. Injuries happen. I mean, for South Carolina, like, you guys just fumble the bag big time this year. That sucks. But, like, as you play, like, things happen, injuries take place, people have bad games, that sort of thing. But, like, when you play the team, if they're. If they have a number next to them, that should count. Like, South Carolina should be a top 10 win or top 15 win for you guys this year, regardless of.

[Taylor]

How it was on that ranking based on the year before, like, they're officially four.

[Diego Pavia]

Baseball. They were 20 at the.

[Will]

Team. Honestly, it's like. But it's like. Like, if you look at any South Carolina fan, you're going to say, hey, did you guys wildly underperform this year for what you guys should have done? The answer is yes, wildly. And because you. They should have been a top 15 team this.

[Diego Pavia]

Year. We were well against a lot of good.

[Will]

Teams. Played well against a lot of good teams. However, when you guys played, they were 11 in the country. It's like, that should you. That should count for something for you guys. Because at the time you're walking into that building being like, this is a staple win for.

[Cade McConnell]

Us. If we can get this, the fans think they're ranked 11th. The fan. Like, you're saying the fans in that stadium, totally.

[Will]

Different. Absolutely. Right. That, to me, it has to count for something.

[Taylor]

Right. But if things happen, if you're walking in the door trying to say, hey, here's one of my points I want to make with our schedule and beating the South Carolina team that's ranked, everybody's gonna be like, buddy, like, who cares that you beat South.

[Will]

Carolina? Yeah. Because everyone's looking at the end.

[Taylor]

Result. Well, yeah, because the years played out for everybody. It's like you look at preseason, like Texas A and M would have all these incredible wins against the programs that they played, but now that we're at the end of the year, their one loss is to an SEC team that's in the top half of the SEC. All their wins were against bottom half SEC.

[Will]

Teams. Yeah. When was SEC carries have any range? Like top 15 wins? When they were playing them at the time, besides Notre Dame, Because Notre Dame was still top 15, I think. Yeah. Okay. Notre Dame was.

[Mitch]

Nine. That's what Notre Dame is.

[Will]

Now. Okay.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Maybe LSU at the time. What week was.

[Will]

That? Maybe.

[Taylor]

Missouri. When'd you open it? I think Missouri was ranked at that.

[Diego Pavia]

Time. Two weeks before.

[Will]

That. Two weeks before that. Because they sputtered. They lost after that to Alabama.

[Diego Pavia]

Right? Yeah. But they didn't have their starting.

[Will]

Quarter.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. They didn't have.

[Will]

Perbula. Yeah. So they might have been out by then.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. I think they got to put us in. I don't know how you leave.

[Will]

Us matters for when you play the team. I think that matters. I think the. The fan base, the environment, the competitive atmosphere, it's way different when you have a number next to your name as opposed to when you don't. Teams are.

[Cade McConnell]

Different. I.

[Will]

Agree. What do we think about where's the. With the stat.

[Taylor]

List? We get the. I got some stats right here. Yeah. It's. Honestly, it's been cool to see you guys getting on so many lists. Joe Moore, Heisman, everything else got the wife calling me. Here, take this.

[Will]

Okay. Take this. All right. Charl calls Will Compton. We'll start getting into this. Dude. First thing on the list, should Diego win the Heisman, your. Your third best in odds on Fandor. Right now. It's plus 340. You're behind Fernando Mendoza and Sand. Those are the two people ahead of him. Do you want me to read their.

[Taylor]

Stats? Yeah, let's get some good. Just get some.

[Will]

Good. Let's go with.

[Taylor]

Mendoza. Stats.

[Will]

Context. Mendoza has 3,000, 3,001 yards. He's got 38 touchdowns and 72% completion percentage. All right, saying has 3,092 a little bit better right there. Thirty touchdowns, less touchdowns, and something about a hostage. I think he also has 78.9 completion percentage. He has the highest completion percentage of any quarterback. Maybe ever. Maybe ever. Then there's you. So we have two quarterbacks that are 3,000. You have 4,018 total yards and 36 touchdowns. Why do you think you're third? Does I know you think you should win? I. I agree with you. Why do you think they're putting you in third right.

[Diego Pavia]

Now? I. I don't.

[Will]

Know. Well, let's. Let's play the game. Let's pretend like we're on a podcast. We're having a full conversation about.

[Cade McConnell]

It. I've got.

[Will]

Answers. Go.

[Taylor]

Ahead. Go.

[Cade McConnell]

Ahead. I think it's because he wears a gold V on his chest. I think the logo is number one. And I think that. That, you know, there's no. There's no reason. This is off topic, but there's no reason that you watch the games and you don't think this guy's the most important player in college football. Like, if you plug and play anybody else, him, anywhere else, they're in the same position we are. It's like the most important player in college football. The best quarterback in college football. The yard, the. The yards and stuff. I know that doesn't have rushing yards, but it's like, that's a total yards right there. I know. I think I saw somewhere that he's got, like, 600 more rushing yards than any of them. And it's like you can sit back there and drop back and throw a bomb every play to your, you know, Heisman candidate receivers, but you got to be able to do it on the ground, too. I think we got a dual threat guy, and I don't. I don't know why he's in third. The only answer I have for that is the.

[Diego Pavia]

Logo. Well, the answer I.

[Taylor]

Have. Indiana doesn't have a strong.

[Diego Pavia]

Logo. Well, the other thing I have for that is, is fanduel likes giving out money. I mean, that's why the podcast.

[Will]

Runs, you know, you said who, Vandal. I saw a.

[Diego Pavia]

Chart.

[Will]

Sure. I don't know if you could bring it up. I think I tweeted about it, but it was a chart of how many 200 yard games they've had. 300 yards, 400 yards, 500 yard games. And as you look down, going down, like the higher the numbers get, you are alone by yourself. I know. Like you have. How many 500 yard games did you.

[Diego Pavia]

Have? One or.

[Will]

Two. One or.

[Taylor]

Two.

[Will]

Five. 532 passing and total yards, six touchdowns versus Kentucky. 433. Two touchdowns versus Tennessee. 433 in Knoxville is nuts. Utah State's not very impressive. 246. Three touchdowns against LSU. Auburn 49. It is impressive. Here's where I think there is. People can probably hate a little bit. Watch Fernando Mendoza and Julian Sam when they do post game press conferences. Way different. You have much more of a fuck it attitude about you. That wrestler's.

[Diego Pavia]

Attitude. I just got more.

[Will]

Juice. Listen, I get it. But.

[Diego Pavia]

That. And they, they play hating the way.

[Will]

You. The way you're talking right now is exactly what I'm saying. Like when people think of the highs with the thing in suit and ties, we're going to act a certain way. It's more of like a country club s.

[Diego Pavia]

Thing. I, I don't, I don't think.

[Will]

So.

[Taylor]

Okay. Why Jam.

[Will]

Newton? Okay. Cam Newton wasn't like the Cam.

[Diego Pavia]

Newton. Johnny.

[Will]

Manzel. Johnny Manzel. When he.

[Diego Pavia]

Went. Joe.

[Will]

Burrow. Hold on. When Johnny Manzel won the Heisman, freshman year, 2019, he was very much like, like, still like masking behind this all American boy type of thing. After he won the Heisman was when all the started to come.

[Diego Pavia]

Out. Joe.

[Will]

Burrow. Joe Burrow. He's calm.

[Diego Pavia]

He'S. But he's got the juice.

[Will]

Though. He's got juice. There's no doubt.

[Diego Pavia]

About. He's got swag. He ain't scared to say some. That's Joe Burrow. Okay, let me think. Who.

[Taylor]

Else. Who's, who's the.

[Cade McConnell]

Last. I think that's such a bad argument.

[Will]

Though. Dude, listen, he's bad at.

[Cade McConnell]

Interviews. He can't win the.

[Will]

Heisman. It's like I, I agree with that. I'm saying like there's, there's probably a. How they view a Heisman.

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Win. Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. And I also think like maybe.

[Will]

I don't know, maybe that appearances are.

[Cade McConnell]

Mean. I know that's. It goes right back to the logo thing. Like, are we talking about appearances? Are we talking about numbers in.

[Diego Pavia]

The. Are we talking about the. Are you the best or not? It's plain and simple.

[Will]

Right? Yeah. That's how it should.

[Diego Pavia]

Be. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah. To me, I think you mean more to your team. I think Fernando Mendoza means a lot to his team. Like, to me, it's like it's. It should be a guy who's changed the temperature for their team. Like, when you hear about this team and the success that they're having throughout the year and fans that are outside the bubble of SEC or with Fernando Mendoza, Big Ten to where you start hearing about these teams winning and you're wondering why they're having the six, the success that they have. And then you're able to look at a player who kind of takes over what that team success looks like. I think it's you, I think it's Mendoza, but I think Julian saying doesn't have, like, he's surrounded by. He's a. He's a hell of a player, but you've also got an incredible machine around.

[Will]

Him. Can you get that.

[Diego Pavia]

Chart? Join sane because last year Indiana.

[Cade McConnell]

Still went 12, 0 different quarterback without.

[Will]

Mendoza.

[Mitch]

No. And those are transferred in from Cal and last year they went to the playoff with Curtis.

[Will]

O'.

[Cade McConnell]

Rourke. So, I mean, so he's been able to turn a program.

[Taylor]

Around. No, I agree with you. I agree with you. Like, you've changed the landscape of Vanderbilt. Yeah, Vanderbilt football. Yeah. Two years in a row. To me, it's like that's. It's the why. Why anybody tunes into Vanderbilt football. No disrespect, Kate, you guys, the team is playing really well, but you also want to see what kind of juice, like you're hearing about this Diego Pavia kid. You want to watch it live. You want to see it live.

[Cade McConnell]

Happen. I.

[Taylor]

Agree. I feel like being on the outside, it's not like I'm a huge Indiana guy, but as Indiana was playing and then they beat Oregon and people keep talking about Fernando Mendoza. When I am turning it, tuning in to watch Indiana football, I'm like, oh, I want to see what this Fernando Mendoza kids do. You see his comeback win against that last drive against Penn State. And it's like there's a Heisman moment there very much. You've had a Heisman moment in several of these games. Like going into Neyland, I think is a massive. I was saying on the locker room last week, if they go in and win and you have a stat line that you do, it's like, yes, give the kid to Heisman. So to me, I'm thinking there's two guys that I'm personally feel like to me it'll depend a lot on what happens in this Big Ten championship. Game with Mendoza, if he can take down Ohio State and he does it with incredible sets, it's going to be hard for America the way everything's going to go to point towards Fernando, where I think people will still be arguing you. But to me, I feel like you're. You're in the driver's seat right.

[Will]

Now.

[Diego Pavia]

Now. Well, I appreciate.

[Taylor]

That. Yeah, I. Yeah, we got you over.

[Diego Pavia]

Here. We got you.

[Will]

Over. Come.

[Taylor]

On.

[Will]

Yeah. Not all of.

[Diego Pavia]

Us.

[Taylor]

Who? Who, Who? Oh.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Jack, it's.

[Taylor]

Okay. I'm on the.

[Cade McConnell]

Campaign.

[Taylor]

Okay. He's on the campaign. You got the campaign here. But I think if I could guess what kind of the pulse is of everything, I feel like that's what the pulse will be. It'll come down to what kind of game is Mendoza going to have this weekend against Ohio.

[Will]

State?

[Diego Pavia]

State. But now you look at Ohio State, Julian San isn't out of the.

[Taylor]

Race. He can.

[Diego Pavia]

Have. He can have a massive game, too, and jump, you know, he needs.

[Cade McConnell]

Both defenses to play very.

[Diego Pavia]

Well. Well, not even that. We just need people to look at the reality of it and say, who's the best player in college football through these 12.

[Taylor]

Games. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Where I. Where I feel.

[Theo Von]

Like. Oh, what's up.

[Taylor]

Bro? Anybody.

[Theo Von]

Else? Congrats. What's.

[Will]

Up? What's up.

[Theo Von]

Fellas? Good to see you.

[Taylor]

Dude. He. He came in at a good.

[Diego Pavia]

Time. Good to.

[Will]

See. Right here.

[Theo Von]

Huh? Sit back there. You got.

[Will]

It. You guys have fun. Dude, I'm just going to watch. Boy, do we. We don't have a mic back there for.

[Taylor]

Theo.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah.

[Will]

Yeah. Dude, that is hilarious. Before we started this, we were talking on the other side. If he could only. If he could only bring one person to the Heisman ceremony. Is he bringing his mom or is he bringing you? And you haven't answered that.

[Diego Pavia]

Question. They're both.

[Will]

Coming. They're both going. If you had to pick one, though. Well, my mom, but yeah, yeah, fair.

[Theo Von]

Enough. But you going to New York.

[Will]

I'll go to New.

[Theo Von]

York. I'll stay outside. I'll stay in the.

[Taylor]

Van. Just pick it for him. A Diego for.

[Theo Von]

Heisman. I'm not getting on the cold weather or. I'll stay in the van. You know what I'm saying? Van. I'll stay in the van and honk the.

[Will]

Horn. Are you. You said the table's like 40k.

[Diego Pavia]

Right?

[Will]

Yeah. You going to do.

[Diego Pavia]

That? A table for eight? I think Vanderbilt's gonna buy a.

[Will]

Few. That'd be awesome. Yeah. If you have the opportunity, like when. When is the last time Vanderbilt has had a Heisman candidate.

[Taylor]

Ever. Imagine too, if the team. If the team made the player pay for.

[Will]

It. Well, I'm sure he's gonna have a laundry list of people that be like, hey, take us with. Like, are you gonna invite us? No, Yeah, I.

[Theo Von]

Wouldn'T. I mean.

[Will]

Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right, I wouldn't. I just want to know if he.

[Taylor]

Would. Yeah.

[Will]

Yeah. My bad boy. Let's.

[Taylor]

Hear you. Probably you go to the Heisman ceremony. You probably have to just have a talk with your brother. Just, hey, shoot, I want to.

[Will]

Go. Dude.

[Diego Pavia]

Got. Dude, there's a funny ass video I have of him in a suit and tie. Let me show you real.

[Taylor]

Quick. Your.

[Diego Pavia]

Brother. Yeah, you can't even put him in a suit and tie. Theo, you'll like this one too. Theo's got to. Theo's got to hang around with them. So.

[Taylor]

You. Theo, what's it been like? Can you. Is there a mic back there? No mic. Damn. We're struggling right now with.

[Will]

The. With the talk loud, but ask him the question you're.

[Taylor]

Asking. What's it been like getting to know the Pavia.

[Theo Von]

Family? Oh, the Pavia family is definitely good. You know, I mean, my. A lot of my family's lived in halfway houses and stuff over the years, so you meet a lot of people that are going through it and getting back into the community, you know. So, yeah, the Poppies are. I mean, I don't know if there's ever been a family like that that's been associated with college football. Front row, willing to get arrested even on a. They'll have a three yard loss and they're willing to get.

[Taylor]

Arrested. You know what I'm.

[Theo Von]

Saying? Like, it doesn't even need to be an amazing play. And they're willing to go down in chains, bro. I think it's pretty unbelievable. It's hard. Think it's hard probably for you guys on the field not to play tough when they're. I mean, those guys. Guys are willing, you know, they're running options in the stands. It's getting, you know, Javier running. He'll run.

[Taylor]

It. He'll run.

[Theo Von]

A. An out route, you know, up. Up 20 fights of bleachers. It's just like, what's going.

[Diego Pavia]

On? This is the best video right here. So this is. It's senior day. We're playing Kentucky. This is like before warm ups, you know, when everyone goes out, the family's all on the field. This is my brother.

[Taylor]

Javi. Right here is it that he's just rocking the.

[Diego Pavia]

Suit. He's talking to number 11 on Kentucky. This kid's like, what the is going.

[Jeff]

On? Who is.

[Diego Pavia]

This? What is going.

[Will]

On? He's a wild.

[Diego Pavia]

Animal.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. I told people he was the team pastor, too. That's the best. I tell everybody on the other team that he's the team.

[Taylor]

Pastor. And they're like, bro, when you.

[Will]

Got your brother Diego, when you got your brother getting arrested and all the antics you see from your family, have you ever just sat there and, like, sat them down, like at a Olive Garden? Just been like, guys, we. We can't keep doing.

[Taylor]

This. You gotta keep it together just a little bit.

[Will]

Longer. Eat your breadsticks and you're soup and your salad. We've got to figure it.

[Diego Pavia]

Out. The thing is, like, Albuquerque is, like a real life gta. So it's like, always just been, like, kind of, like, normal to us, you know? And then like, this is when, like, the first two years where it's, like, been like, all right, like, we have to chill.

[Will]

Out. Yeah. But there's also a piece of, like, authenticity where you got to be like, hey, let them be.

[Diego Pavia]

Them. Yeah. I think that's the best part about them, too, is, like, when you. Well, this is the other thing, too, is why I kind of let it be. Let them be them. So last year, we beat Alabama. We're going on a freaking crazy run. Kentucky, they're running wild, too. And then it was like, hey, like, we need to calm down. Like, everyone, Everything's going out of control. Like, when I come down, ever since that day, we were five and two, we only won one of the game against Auburn, and we barely slipped by, and they were. They weren't drinking nothing. I was like, you know what? Next year, get hammered as much as you.

[Will]

Want. That's the only time he set the.

[Diego Pavia]

Tone. Yeah, he only. My brother only stayed sober for the Alabama game and the Texas.

[Taylor]

Game.

[Will]

No. Are you being for.

[Diego Pavia]

Real?

[Taylor]

Deadass. So if you're out of the playoff, it's like we kind of have.

[Diego Pavia]

Like. Like, I blame it on our D line coach, but.

[Will]

Yeah. Oh, you D line.

[Diego Pavia]

Coach. Yeah, I always joke with him about that.

[Taylor]

Okay. Thank.

[Will]

God. Holy. That's.

[Theo Von]

Crazy. We.

[Taylor]

Can'T. We can't let him run.

[Will]

That. So you're basically telling your brother, like, your liver, like, we need you to. We make the. He's got to be hammered every.

[Theo Von]

Day. You can get a liver transplant.

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[Will]

Yeah. Let him do his.

[Diego Pavia]

Thing. How much is.

[Theo Von]

That? That's 120 racks.

[Will]

Probably. Liver transplant in the US can be around 878,000 or a million. Oh, my. Now. Yeah, we have multiple sponsors for.

[Taylor]

That. One of the nice.

[Will]

Ones. Yeah, those are the good.

[Theo Von]

Ones. If you want one of those two story livers or whatever. Yeah, I'm talking about a studio.

[Will]

Liver. That is.

[Cade McConnell]

Wild. New York.

[Taylor]

Studio. Like, we got 150.

[Will]

Bucks. We get to. We get to New York, we get to New York and we get to the Heisman. You're sitting there, it's you, Fernando Mendoza, Julian saying. And they announce one of their names, not yours. Like, what. What are we gonna expect from your brother? Like, that's gonna.

[Taylor]

Be. Oh, yeah, we.

[Diego Pavia]

Might. He's gonna be throwing manifest things. I don't think that's gonna.

[Taylor]

Happen. There we.

[Will]

Go. Always gotta think.

[Taylor]

Positive. How did you guys. How did Coach Lee delivered the news to you guys that he signed the extension? Like, was there a big moment with this, with the team? You guys finding out just through.

[Cade McConnell]

Media. It was. No, it was Friday morning. We have a team meeting. And I mean, Mr. Ben.

[Diego Pavia]

Story. Mr. Ben runs it. He's like Coach Lee's right hand man and he's like, here. And we go over, like officiating rules, what not to do, what to do, what's good. And he was like, well, this is the most important meeting. It's usually not the most important meeting, but today it is. And he just clicked over and everyone like lifted the heads up and it was like Clark Lee extended. And everyone just went.

[Will]

Crazy. Yeah, I.

[Diego Pavia]

Know. He deserves it.

[Cade McConnell]

Though. He.

[Taylor]

Does. Were you guys having a feeling that he could be. He could be going elsewhere just because again, you guys have had so much success. Like, that's kind of what.

[Diego Pavia]

Happened. Yeah, that's the name of the game. I had. I had a feeling, but I'm glad he.

[Cade McConnell]

Stayed.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. This is his hometown too, so. And he can recruit anyone around the country now that we're winning. Just like I said last time.

[Will]

You run the state, bro. We need Jerry.

[Theo Von]

Curtis. That's who we.

[Will]

Need.

[Diego Pavia]

Right?

[Will]

Yeah. Joey Curtis is that kid with the.

[Diego Pavia]

Haircut. Yeah. Word on the street, he's.

[Will]

Coming. Word on the.

[Theo Von]

Street. We tried to flip him the other night like a hot.

[Taylor]

Cake. We. Right.

[Diego Pavia]

Now. Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. FaceTiming in the middle of the.

[Will]

Night. Hey, you. You are. You're just a football fan, but are you, like, planting your flag with Vanderbilt now? Is it forever Vanderbilt? Because you. I saw you and Lane Kiffin as he's getting off the bus like a couple weeks.

[Theo Von]

Ago. Oh, yeah. That was fun, man. Well, I've all had to work every year for like 14 years during the fall. I have to work most of the the. So I never got to go to the games. So I'm making up for a lot of lost time here. So it's been a blast. But yeah, Vanderbilt's been. It's just been the best, man, that it's right here in town. I got to meet so many great guys. There's so many players over there, man. Cade, they got Chase Mitchell. His son could play. His son's bigger than Kelvin Barnett. Kb, his son, Chase's son. It's like their whole team is absolutely hilarious, bro. They have so many big personalities over there, dude. It is ridiculous, bro. It's ridiculous. Hey, B. Had some killer catches this week though. Yeah, he.

[Diego Pavia]

Did. He took two guys out. It was.

[Will]

Crazy. This is Blue Mountain State. That's what this program.

[Taylor]

Is. I truly. I love seeing the fandom of.

[Diego Pavia]

Theo. Yeah, it's like he's.

[Taylor]

Around. Third picture. It's like he's around. It's like he's around. The high school football, football team just forces.

[Diego Pavia]

Everybody. This kid is literally 5 foot 5, 110 pounds.

[Theo Von]

Dude. He will tie weights in his hair to have a little bit more.

[Taylor]

Weight. Yeah, yeah.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Like five pound weights bad for your neck.

[Taylor]

Dude. You know what he would do.

[Diego Pavia]

For weigh ins because you have to gain weight? He would get that weight pad that usually goes around your ankles. He would tape it around his body like this and go way in on the.

[Will]

Scale.

[Cade McConnell]

No. Yeah, just if it's around them too. It's supposed to fit around your.

[Will]

Ankle. Who's that tight end y' all.

[Diego Pavia]

Got?

[Will]

What? What's his name? Buddy? That guy is incredible as well. You guys got.

[Diego Pavia]

Talent. Cole Spence is. He's gonna be a first rounder.

[Cade McConnell]

Too. Yeah, he's coming.

[Diego Pavia]

Back. Spence is.

[Will]

Good. And what year are these.

[Diego Pavia]

Guys? Cole Spence has three years, so he has two more after.

[Will]

This. And the other cat, he's. Is.

[Diego Pavia]

He. He's a senior.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Is he gonna come.

[Diego Pavia]

Back? Who?

[Cade McConnell]

Cole? Yeah, he'll be.

[Theo Von]

Back. So now how does it work for players now? Because you guys all have to go and do a. You have to meet with like a agent or something for the. The team at the end of the season to see if you're going to come back. What's that.

[Cade McConnell]

Like? It's for guys that are old enough. You either declare for the draft or you come back. And I mean you agents and stuff, whatever. You have NFL agents, Nil agents. But really you. All those pictures are terrible. Really, you just. You renegotiate like a contract with nil. That's kind of the way it goes.

[Diego Pavia]

Now. You have to see how much you're.

[Will]

Worth. That photo goes hard.

[Theo Von]

Card. And do they just reveal it? Like it's a big. Like they show you a number or whatever? Because that's just got. That would hurt my.

[Will]

Feelings. You just walk in and you.

[Cade McConnell]

Go. They open a briefcase and it has a number like no, you're lying dealer. No deal. What is your deal or no.

[Will]

Deal? Does your agent tell you like this is what the market looks like outside of.

[Cade McConnell]

Vanderbilt? Yeah, pretty.

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[Taylor]

Details. Like, do you even have, like, real exit meetings with your coaches anymore? Like, to where you're talking about the. You're talking about football, or is it more just kind. Kind of transactional? Like, you walk in and coach is like, hey, what are you hearing out there? You're like, I'm kind of hearing this. And we're like, man, we hope we get you back. And that's kind of your exit.

[Cade McConnell]

Meeting. Yeah, my coach is more old school, so, like, I, I talk about football with him and, and I'm sure after, whenever we're done playing, we're gonna have exit meetings. But when it comes to, like, all the other stuff, like, I try to stay out of it. I don't really want to hear much of it. You know, I'm, like, focused on football at that.

[Diego Pavia]

Point. The way we did last year, too, is you got a paper, you wrote down what you liked, what you didn't like, and then how much you wanted for the next year to come.

[Taylor]

Back. That is crazy.

[Theo Von]

Dude. Who do you send it to?

[Diego Pavia]

Santa. They're basically Santa.

[Cade McConnell]

Nil.

[Will]

Yeah. Yes, it is. Would be like, you go to the position coach and they'd be like, hey, this is what you did well this year. This is what you need to work.

[Diego Pavia]

On.

[Will]

Yeah. And they'd be like, you'd be like, yes.

[Diego Pavia]

Sir. You would. You would have those.

[Taylor]

Conversations.

[Diego Pavia]

Coordinator. What do you think you need to prove on what they thought you needed to prove on, and then those other things. Oh, and then where you're going to be training in the off season, how you're going to get it done. Do you have a weight room to work out.

[Taylor]

In? Yeah, but this is all on a.

[Diego Pavia]

Form. Yeah, well, you would. You would fill it out and then you would go talk to your coach about.

[Taylor]

It. Okay. Yeah.

[Cade McConnell]

Okay. My coach is a little different. My coach sits down, I'll tell you. You know, you have a conversation about the year, and then at the end, he's like, like, I'm. I have to do this. And then kind of hand you the paper that you fill out, like one through five, what you like. But, I mean, that's pretty basic. I feel like around the country right.

[Will]

Now.

[Taylor]

So. Yeah, but it's probably. It's definitely. Probably what it's like now. It's bizarre hearing it. No, we weren't in the nil, so hearing how the exit meetings are happening now, because when I would talk to coaches after the season or like, you know, you're breaking down the year or whatever, he's like, will, bro. Like these. The exit meetings aren't even exit meetings anymore. It's. They walk in and it's kind of like, like, hey, are you guys going to be able to get to this number? If not, I'll be in the portal. Which is.

[Cade McConnell]

Nuts. Guys that get agents now, like, it allows the player to like, step away from it. So you don't like jeopardize a relationship kind.

[Will]

Of. The agents are crazy because they're taking like.

[Taylor]

10%. You know, coaches hate that. It's like. Yeah, instead of talking to the player, it's like, hey, you're gonna be talking to my agent. They're like.

[Will]

This. This.

[Diego Pavia]

Guy. Oh, and they hate. Yeah, they. They hate.

[Taylor]

Agents.

[Will]

Yeah. Yeah. That is nuts.

[Diego Pavia]

Dude. They.

[Will]

Hate. Yeah, they got to. They got.

[Taylor]

To. And.

[Diego Pavia]

We. Dude, taking.

[Cade McConnell]

10%. That's.

[Diego Pavia]

Crazy. That's.

[Will]

Nuts. Crazy. You'd be better off negotiating for.

[Diego Pavia]

Yourself. Negotiate for yourself. Negotiate something even lower and you'll still get the same amount of money. And then I also think that kids don't think about taxes.

[Will]

Either. Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Vanderbilt.

[Will]

Yeah. No sitting on.

[Diego Pavia]

Tax. No stating of.

[Taylor]

Tax. How do you guys. How do you guys even get privy to that? Like the tax.

[Cade McConnell]

Stuff? You guys, we have.

[Diego Pavia]

Meetings. They make us so good about.

[Will]

That. They.

[Diego Pavia]

Have. Have meetings about.

[Will]

Everything.

[Diego Pavia]

Really? Literally everything. There's a agent.

[Cade McConnell]

Meeting. Think it's tomorrow.

[Diego Pavia]

Morning. Tomorrow.

[Taylor]

Morning?

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Telling us about NFL agents and stuff for the.

[Taylor]

Guys. I bet there's agents that take like.

[Cade McConnell]

20%. I bet there is.

[Theo Von]

Agent. I'm getting.

[Will]

40%. You could get it.

[Diego Pavia]

Too. You probably.

[Will]

Could. You got you a couple of guys. Hey, last time you were here in the summertime, we talked about you having other offers to go elsewhere. Did you say the number when we were on the bus last time?

[Taylor]

Time? Yeah, I think he did, cuz he did. That was like.

[Diego Pavia]

4.5.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

4.5.

[Will]

Yeah. Did you say the school that did.

[Diego Pavia]

That?

[Will]

No. Are you willing to say it now? We're past.

[Diego Pavia]

It. No, no, no, I won't say it. I will say it later on in.

[Will]

Life. Okay. Yeah. All right.

[Theo Von]

Okay. Probably the.

[Taylor]

Titans. Hey, tell.

[Diego Pavia]

That. Tell that Titan story.

[Theo Von]

Please. Oh, yeah, we were at A dinner or something and something. It was like, fancy people, some rich person, and then some. Oh, the owners, Titans, like, their brass was there. Some of their people. And I was like, oh, would y' all draft Diego? You know? And they're gonna. They're like, he's a little small for us. They said, we. We kind of like guys like this guy. And they pointed to one of their players was sitting there, and they're like, this guy's six, seven. And I was like, that guy's one and seven. Diego's eight and two right now in the toughest conference. I'm like, I know it's not apples to apples, but you know what I'm.

[Will]

Saying? That is.

[Taylor]

Hilarious. That.

[Will]

Guy. One and.

[Theo Von]

Seven. It's just. It's like, what would you lo. Like? Especially 5,000 extra people would buy tickets every week to go across town and watch him or to watch K play. Guys that they know and care about from watching the team here, you know, watch number 11. What's that guy's.

[Taylor]

Name?

[Diego Pavia]

Long. Longwell and Longwood Grew up here.

[Theo Von]

Too. Did he.

[Diego Pavia]

Really?

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah. That guy's great, dude. I mean, there's so many of the players. If you pulled them in, like, they have nothing to lose. They're losing right now. So what do you got then?

[Diego Pavia]

Nothing. This guy plays like Fred.

[Cade McConnell]

Warner. He is a dog. And he's young, too. I think he's a true.

[Diego Pavia]

Sophomore.

[Will]

Yeah. Oh, no, he is.

[Theo Von]

A. They got to keep.

[Diego Pavia]

Him. Yeah, they got to keep.

[Cade McConnell]

Him. He's either a true sophomore or true.

[Will]

Junior. Seems like Vandy's gonna be solid for a couple more.

[Taylor]

Years. Yeah. The way everybody's talking about this. This quarterback. Who's.

[Diego Pavia]

He? I think the rest now, Georgia. He's. He's.

[Will]

The. George is the king of losing number.

[Diego Pavia]

Ones. He's the second. He got everybody in the class of this.

[Will]

Year. Who's the number.

[Diego Pavia]

One? I can't remember. He used to be number one, but he dropped to number.

[Will]

Two. What are you doing? Okay, let's say Citrus Bowl. Heart's broken. We don't go to the playoff. You play in that game, Jody have a plan.

[Taylor]

For. Where's the Citrus.

[Will]

Boy? I think it's important.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. I'm not even cheesy about.

[Cade McConnell]

It.

[Will]

Yeah. Let's just say after the season, what is. What is your plan for getting ready for the combine? Like, do you know where you're gonna go and do all.

[Diego Pavia]

That? No, I don't know. I don't have an NFL agent yet. I just like to think about winning this playoffs, but I'll probably take like two weeks off, let my body recover a little bit, do some recovery, and I'll get back in the weight room and be ready for pro.

[Will]

Day. Not doing the.

[Diego Pavia]

Combine? Yeah, I'm going to do the combine.

[Will]

Too.

[Diego Pavia]

What. What do you think you're running in the.

[Taylor]

40?

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. I don't know. I. I've gotten a lot faster since last year. I would probably say like a 49. Low.

[Taylor]

46. Oh.

[Diego Pavia]

Four. Middle, middle.

[Will]

46. Speed.

[Cade McConnell]

Moving.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Speed.

[Taylor]

Kill. You gotta fix your guys even.

[Diego Pavia]

Care. Oh, I gotta get my nose fixed.

[Cade McConnell]

Too. More.

[Will]

Aerodynamic. What'd you do to your.

[Diego Pavia]

Nose? I broke it during Saturday's game, first.

[Theo Von]

Drive. Did.

[Cade McConnell]

You?

[Will]

Yes. I was a little shiner. Yeah, you did have a little black eye to stop maybe Broadway getting nuts. How'd you break.

[Cade McConnell]

It? He came off the.

[Diego Pavia]

Side. Can't even breathe right with this thing. You gotta try it.

[Will]

Bro. Dude, how awful is sleeping at night with a broken.

[Diego Pavia]

Nose? Oh, dude. So where's you wake up every, like.

[Will]

Hour? It's the.

[Diego Pavia]

Worst.

[Taylor]

Yeah. God. One thing I want to ask you guys went to a bowl game last year. Like, what's. What's the feeling around bowl games.

[Cade McConnell]

Now? I'm going to.

[Taylor]

Natty. I don't.

[Diego Pavia]

Know.

[Taylor]

It's. Well, yeah. Yeah, definitely saying last.

[Diego Pavia]

Year. Oh, I mean, it was cool to go last year because Banner Mill hasn't been to a. A bowl game in a while, so that was cool. And then we got to play a good team, Georgia Tech. We got to play Haynes King. Haynes King is the best. He's.

[Taylor]

Good. But as far as like prepping for a bowl game and everything else, like you. Because there's a lot of teams that like sit a bunch of guys out. Like, is it. Did Vandy have guys sitting out and stuff last year? Like, what does it mean, like, when you guys are sitting there.

[Diego Pavia]

Practicing? Dude, the best story of it all. So this is like during contract negotiations, right? It's like, this is like if you're not. Your contract didn't sign. Like, it's like, like, okay, you do your practice, do you not? Eli stood out until his contract was signed. So, like, he didn't practice the whole week until, like Tuesday before the.

[Cade McConnell]

Game. He was like, hurt too, though, a little, wasn't.

[Diego Pavia]

He? Yeah, he was hurt a little bit, but he could have practiced. He, like the last week he was dragging it.

[Taylor]

Out. Yeah.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Dragging the.

[Taylor]

End. It's just so nuts, man. It's like, it's. It's like the NFL, it's like trickling down. But with college, it's like every year. There's not like three, four years. You're signing like a free agent after every.

[Will]

Season. Kind of.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. So you gotta start signing at least two year deals, I.

[Will]

Think. Yeah, I think tie some guys down for a couple of years for sure. I think you need to do away with. I think bowl games do not matter at all. Everyone's focused on college football playoffs. And if you don't make it, like, if you guys don't make the playoff, like you don't. Guys don't give a. About the Citrus Bowl. No disrespect. You don't give. You don't care about these other bowl games. What they need to do is these plans and then like the Citrus bowl and the Sugar bowl and you know, all these other, other like relevant bowl games now have relevant games that people are looking to get into the.

[Cade McConnell]

Playoff. Yeah. Or they just make the playoffs and not do bowl.

[Taylor]

Games. I need Nebraska to get eight wins. That's all I.

[Will]

Can. Yeah. Good.

[Cade McConnell]

News. What are they at right.

[Will]

Now? Your floor next year.

[Theo Von]

7. You got seven wins out of a whole.

[Taylor]

Season. It hadn't been good in the Big.

[Will]

Troll. He goes, you got seven wins.

[Taylor]

Out of a whole season. We were seven and three. Dropped the last two.

[Cade McConnell]

Too. Who's. Do you guys have another.

[Taylor]

One?

[Cade McConnell]

Fashion. Is there another.

[Taylor]

One? No season. Regular season's done. That's why we need this bowl.

[Cade McConnell]

Game. Oh, yeah, you mean bowl.

[Diego Pavia]

Game. Why do you gotta get.

[Taylor]

Eight? Just encouragement, hope.

[Diego Pavia]

Optimism. He's over here betting they're over.

[Will]

Now. I'm trying to tell. I was trying to tell.

[Diego Pavia]

Will.

[Will]

Crap like, like last year Michigan was 7 and 5. We were 7 and 5. Last year we played Alabama. We beat Alabama. Alabama in the bowl game. I don't think Alabama has another loss. I don't think Michigan has another win. It's just a bowl game. You just play and it's over. It doesn't count towards your regular season schedule, wins and losses. It's.

[Theo Von]

Just. It.

[Cade McConnell]

Does. You can bet on bowl.

[Will]

Games. Oh.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Let me see if. Let me see if mine's.

[Diego Pavia]

Settled. It's not going to say it's settled, but trust me, I made the same bet for South Carolina and it's not hitting well. Yeah, they're three and.

[Will]

Whatever. Four.

[Cade McConnell]

Bro. Oh, Nebraska will be in Nashville, it.

[Taylor]

Says. But it's seven and a half. It's over. Seven and a.

[Ad Read]

Half. Regular season.

[Taylor]

Wins. Yeah. It's.

[Diego Pavia]

Settled.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. You know, if the team. Did they already pick who's gonna be in the college football playoffs or.

[Taylor]

Not? It's.

[Will]

Gonna. No, no. Yeah. It'll be on.

[Theo Von]

Sunday. And can they pick any teams to be in it or does it have to be certain.

[Taylor]

Teams? There's got to be certain teams. It's like the top five ranked conference champions. They get automatic bids and then from there. Yeah, I think it's all like at.

[Theo Von]

Large. So they could put a team that's number 19 in there if they wanted to. And there's no. Nobody could say anything about.

[Taylor]

It. Theo, if. If Duke wins this weekend, if Duke beats Virginia in the ACC championship, two G5 teams from the G5 conferences, they will get in. So JMU or Tulane in North Texas. 2. Because we're sitting here trying to break it down. Like, I'm like, I do hope you guys get in the playoffs, but playing on the other side, it's like, this is what happens. Like, where is there going to be room to get Vandy in? If X, Y and Z happens.

[Theo Von]

They gotta put him.

[Taylor]

In Notre dame. Notre Dame's 10 and 2. Miami's 10 and.

[Will]

2. I don't think it's gonna happen, but I really hope you guys gotta happen. There's no way you guys in.

[Taylor]

That because ain't no Texas is out there arguing for their three.

[Will]

Losses. Win. Go to the Citrus.

[Taylor]

Bowl.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. Blow it.

[Will]

Up. You guys are probably play.

[Cade McConnell]

Michigan. Blow it.

[Taylor]

Up.

[Will]

Right? That.

[Diego Pavia]

Sucks. Yeah. This is what you want to play.

[Cade McConnell]

For. It's either you're in or you win your bowl game by 50 and just be like, we should have been in, you.

[Will]

Know? Yeah.

[Cade McConnell]

Yes. I. I don't think they can leave us out of it. And then it's like, once we're in, we're going to win it.

[Will]

All. Like.

[Taylor]

Vegas. I know there's going to be those. Those few teams that's like, you can't leave them out of it. But then a couple of them are going to be told, hey, I.

[Cade McConnell]

Think they might know it.

[Taylor]

Too. They're gonna have.

[Cade McConnell]

Something. They're like, if they put Brutal Answer, they put Vandy and Diego Pave in the playoff. It's like, well, they're just gonna win it all. And that just wouldn't look good for.

[Will]

Them. I feel like you're in the dance. It doesn't matter who.

[Taylor]

Wins. Hell.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah. That's what they're.

[Theo Von]

Thinking. Do they let you know in advance or does your team only find out at a.

[Cade McConnell]

Certain. It's like live. It's like, we'll have like a viewing.

[Taylor]

Thing. Yeah, yeah. They have a watch along Selection Sunday. All the schools will be sitting there watching. Then it'll get announced. They'll have a.

[Will]

Reaction. Hey the you.

[Taylor]

Got. I hope you guys are.

[Will]

Celebrating. You got to be in the room with them. Selection Sunday. I'll go over.

[Cade McConnell]

There. Definitely be.

[Taylor]

There. There's no doubt how many teams.

[Diego Pavia]

In the playoff currently, if you into the season right now would want to play.

[Cade McConnell]

Vanderbilt.

[Taylor]

Zero.

[Diego Pavia]

Yeah. It's the same thing that happened with South Carolina last.

[Taylor]

Year. It's like they were the hottest team at the time. I think we're really going to have an idea who's going to get in based on. Because this episode is tomorrow so Tuesday as everybody's listening tonight when they have the rankings we're going to know who's probably going to get in, who's probably going to be left out. When do they draw because if they got note if they got both Notre Dame and Miami above Vanderbilt then it's good. It's just they don't play a game this weekend. So once Selection Sunday happens, those are going to be the teams that would get in before.

[Theo Von]

You. So, so, so, so so the ranks does matter. That that so that does determine.

[Taylor]

In this scenario the rankings. The rankings they'll kind of tell you these are the teams that get in. But no matter what automatic teams that get in is the five highest ranked conference champions. So Duke, who's not even ranked if they beat Virginia, Virginia is going to fall out of rankings. Tulane, North Texas, jmu, they're all probably in the ranking somewhere, not very high, but they'll get in above of a Vanderbilt, potentially in Miami, potentially in Notre Dame.

[Will]

Texas. Yeah, down.

[Taylor]

It'S. It.

[Will]

Sucks.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. But all.

[Will]

That. Yeah, yeah it is. It's a. It's a messy situation for you guys for sure if you guys don't go to the playoff. Would you humor the idea of not playing the bowl.

[Diego Pavia]

Game as long.

[Taylor]

As everyone play some.

[Diego Pavia]

Ball. As long as. Yeah, as long as everyone is is still willing to play play. Maybe Eli will sit out, but that'll probably be the only one I.

[Cade McConnell]

Ain'T sitting out if we don't get in the playoff, dude, we gotta win.

[Taylor]

By situation hadn't even unfolded. Eli probably Eli sitting home right.

[Will]

Now. Eli probably said like what all.

[Diego Pavia]

Right, what.

[Taylor]

The Just had it up for Mandy for your best possible chance to get in is Texas Tech winning, Virginia winning, beating Duke and then Bama getting blown out by.

[Cade McConnell]

Georgia. What if Tech blows out byu, UVA blows out Duke and Bama's.

[Taylor]

Close. I bet Bama stays.

[Diego Pavia]

In. But I thought they said they. They can't use this against.

[Will]

Them. They don't hold a lot of weight. They're not gonna hold a lot.

[Taylor]

Of weight if they lost.

[Will]

Bad. If they lose by mo. Like two. Two touchdowns, three scores, whatever it is. That's when it's like, okay, do we have it right? Yeah. Do we have it right now? If it's a game, it's a field goal. It's a. It's a one touchdown and they lose because you gotta think, like, if you're Alabama and you get held out of the. Of the conference championship or out of the playoff, what is their side gonna look like? They're gonna beat down the doors.

[Taylor]

Too.

[Will]

Yeah. And be like, what the is this? You guys said it doesn't matter. Now we're talking about these conference championship games. Don't matter at all. So it's. It's a. It's a. It's gonna be messy no matter.

[Diego Pavia]

What.

[Will]

Yeah. Who would you rather piss off, too, if you're college football? Bama or.

[Diego Pavia]

Vanderbilt?

[Will]

Bama. Yeah. You. You would not want to piss them off.

[Diego Pavia]

More. No. You want.

[Cade McConnell]

To. No, I feel like they. They'd want to not piss us. They'd want to not piss Bama off because it's Bama, right? And they're like, oh, it's still just.

[Will]

Vanderbilt. It's the logo. That's when the logo plays against.

[Diego Pavia]

You. We gotta stop being like that.

[Will]

Though. Yeah. We're sitting. You guys should be in. And I agree with you. However, that's not how the world be.

[Taylor]

Confuses. Where they're positioned at right now is you guys are 12 in the CO. No, that's.

[Will]

The. And they dropped last.

[Cade McConnell]

Week. Tennessee by.

[Will]

Three. Tennessee by three touchdowns. And they dropped in the AP.

[Diego Pavia]

Pole. But I think they're trying to use reverse psychology because last week we went up in the AP pole but went down in the other pool. So hopefully they just flip.

[Cade McConnell]

It. They're just trying to mess with.

[Theo Von]

Us. Dude. What a fun year, though.

[Ad Read]

Huh? What a fun.

[Cade McConnell]

Season. You got like five more.

[Diego Pavia]

Games.

[Taylor]

Yeah. The chaos has been.

[Will]

Awesome. It is crazy. We're all gonna sit here just kind of watching, loving what's going on. And their minds are just like, all I care about. Joe Moore, Heisman and making the playoffs. We're just sitting here being like, hey, this is crazy, right? And they're like, this is our life. Like, we're. We're all. We're all entertained by your guys's life right.

[Theo Von]

Now. It's so crazy to think about, like a friend of mine was saying, how they nep. Like they've never even known how to act when the team is winning, like in the third quarter. Like, sometimes they're like, the crowd was silent, like, early in the season. They'd never been there. They'd have no idea what to do. It's not like they're passing out a flyer. It's like, okay, this is how you act now. Like, they've been like, they've stood, like, little to no chance. And I don't mean that negatively, but overall, they've always kind of like, they haven't really known what to do when they were winning or in a position to win, how to even act in.

[Taylor]

That. Used to lose. Used to being angry and arguing with whoever's next to.

[Theo Von]

Them. So this is a change of culture, man. Man. I mean. And I think that's one thing about the Heisman, that. That I think it's like the perseverance that it takes to stay in there. That's one of the words that they use when they describe who should win the Heisman. You know, the perseverance that it takes to stay in there and what you're dealing with, like, I think it's a whole different thing that happened.

[Taylor]

Here. Yeah.

[Will]

Yeah. You're.

[Taylor]

Changing. You're gonna be set up, bro. Good luck. I know the boy. We're all rooting for you. We're hoping the. The Pavia Heisman, they could be tuned in Saturday watching though Mendoza and saying, going back and forth forth, praying for some good defense. All.

[Cade McConnell]

Game. For.

[Diego Pavia]

Sure. No, whatever's supposed to or meant to happen will happen.

[Cade McConnell]

So. Yeah, it's.

[Diego Pavia]

Written. It's all.

[Taylor]

Good. We appreciate you boys, man. You guys got anything else for. We've asked us to. We can ask it to Cade. Yeah. Bud Light. Question, you guys. You guys know how anybody would. Anybody would do anything for an ice cold bud light, Cade McConnell. What would you do anything.

[Will]

For? Can't say family, Hang out with any.

[Diego Pavia]

Balls. A playoff.

[Cade McConnell]

Spot. That's a good one. I would do anything for the Natty. Right now. I think the playoff spots. I think we're in. We're in. I would do anything for a Natty. I also think it's already written, though, so. I already think it's going to happen, but I would do anything for a.

[Taylor]

Natty. You guys win the.

[Will]

Natty.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Taylor, he's got to send the boys to.

[Will]

Vegas. No, they already know they lost.

[Cade McConnell]

That. No, but it's just going to be me and Taylor, though, and.

[Will]

Matt. They had to win the SEC.

[Cade McConnell]

Championship. Jack's going to be there and the.

[Will]

Natty. Oh, and then they're not in. SEC champion. I'm out. I'm.

[Taylor]

Free. Oh, I got.

[Will]

You. You guys win the Natty, though. I'll definitely. I'll take you two, both of y', all to.

[Theo Von]

Vegas. But you sound like a.

[Will]

Damn. We'll go to. Yeah, we'll go to a UFC event with Theo. We'll get there in the prelims. Well, there will be four of us just sitting there three hours before the main event.

[Cade McConnell]

Starts. We did. We did that in New York, and it was the greatest time.

[Will]

Ever. They are silent there. I. I don't.

[Cade McConnell]

Disagree. So.

[Will]

Good. Exactly. That's why, like, the. Have you. You've been to the apex, right? Yeah, the apex. Those fights are amazing because these guys are the guys that are just trying to get in the prelims, and they're beating the out of each other. It's.

[Cade McConnell]

Crazy. Dude, we saw bull nickel in the prelims with that head kick, and it was.

[Diego Pavia]

Like. Oh, yeah.

[Cade McConnell]

Yeah.

[Diego Pavia]

Jeez. B. Nichols from New.

[Will]

Mexico. Oh.

[Taylor]

Really? Yeah.

[Cade McConnell]

Wrestler. There's something out there in the.

[Will]

Water. What else? Something out there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Are y' all going this.

[Will]

Week?

[Taylor]

No. There could be something in the works that we're not able to talk about just.

[Diego Pavia]

Yet. Are you.

[Will]

Going? I'm assuming it would be that you're going then if. If there's something in the works that we can't talk about judging, but he said no, and then he said no. There's something in the works that would make us not be able to.

[Taylor]

Go.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Oh.

[Will]

Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I. I want to go, though. I want to.

[Theo Von]

Go. I don't know if I'm going to go or.

[Will]

Not. Why not? You got.

[Theo Von]

It. I want to go, but I don't know if I'm going to.

[Will]

Go. Just go easy as.

[Taylor]

That. He don't.

[Will]

Know. What do you got to do? Easy it is. Just get on a plane out of.

[Taylor]

Here. He's got to see how he's feeling. Come what, Thursday, Friday morning, you wake up. Do I want to go out to Vegas this.

[Theo Von]

Weekend? It's a.

[Will]

Lot. It is, but it's the best. So much.

[Theo Von]

Fun. It is exciting.

[Will]

God. God, I'm bummed.

[Taylor]

Jack. All right, boys. This felt awesome. Hey, guys. Thank you, Kate. Appreciate you maybe missing a little something to be here. Good luck, boys. Good luck. Selection Sunday's coming. I hope you guys get in the.

[Will]

Playoffs. Yeah go vote man 21+ and.

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