How "Ultimate Human" Founder Gary Brecka Transformed Jelly Roll & Dana White + MAHA Role | Bussin'

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bussin' with the Boys – How "Ultimate Human" Founder Gary Brecka Transformed Jelly Roll & Dana White + MAHA Role

Date: September 23, 2025
Episode: #347
Guests: Gary Brecka (Founder, "Ultimate Human"), Sage (Gary’s wife), Busin’ With The Boys Hosts Will Compton & Taylor Lewan

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bussin’ With The Boys features Gary Brecka, renowned health and longevity expert, creator of “Ultimate Human,” and major advocate for radical wellness and preventive medicine. The hosts dive deep into Brecka’s transformation work with high-profile clients like Jelly Roll and Dana White, discuss the new MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) initiative with Bobby Kennedy, and explore practical health, wellness, and longevity strategies for elite athletes and everyday people alike. The episode blends actionable wellness science, insights about systemic change in US healthcare, and plenty of personal anecdotes and banter in the classic ‘Bussin’’ style.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Origins: How the Boys and Gary Brecka Connected

• Will and Taylor share the origins of their friendship and how accountability around biohacking (cold plunges, saunas, nutrition) was foundational.
• Gary echoes that athletes often must take health into their own hands due to gaps in pro sports franchises’ wellness programs.

  “At the highest, highest end, they just take the responsibility into their own hands.” – Gary (36:06)

2. Top Wellness Non-Negotiables for High Performers

Gary’s Three Absolutes:

1. Sleep:
   • “Sleep is our human superpower. It’s the most bullied thing in our schedule.” – Gary (38:02)
   • REM sleep and deep sleep are crucial for memory, skill consolidation, brain waste removal (glymphatic system).
2. Hydration (Microvascular Health):
   • Heart moves only 30% of blood; 70% is microvascular, supported by hydrogen water, elemental magnesium, and basic minerals.
3. Basic Nutrition (Whole Foods & Amino Acids):
   • “It’s the absence of processed foods, sense of community, sense of purpose.” – Gary (38:15)
   • Amino acids and minerals (from diet or supplements) are key; non-contact injuries often reflect nutritional gaps.

Wearables for Measuring Sleep:

• Gary recommends Oura, Whoop, or Fitbit for data to measure sleep quality, not just duration. Alcohol and processed food are called out as sleep-disruptors. (45:10)

3. Hangover Cures, Hydration, and Salt

• Hydrogen water, mineral salts, and oxygen can quickly fix hangovers and migraines.

  “If you put sea salt, hydrogen water in a 10oz glass ... and ran 15 minutes of oxygen, I don’t care how bad your hangover is, it would be over in 20 minutes.” – Gary (46:32)

4. Why the Basics Matter More Than Biohacks

• Before advanced interventions (stem cells, exosomes), you must address sleep, hydration, and nutrition.
• Immuno-fatigue: Aging is “overwhelming our immune system.”
• The US spends $5T/year on healthcare but leads in negative health outcomes due to food industry influence and lack of true preventative care. (59:18)

5. MAHA Initiative and Policy Change in America

• Gary works with Bobby Kennedy’s Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) committee, targeting petrochemical food dyes, processed food in SNAP, and the school system’s approach to physical education.
• Key wins: Petroleum-based dyes removed, soda/candy banned from SNAP in many states (68:52)
• Food supply in the US is uniquely bad — eg, folic acid enrichment banned in Europe/Canada but mandated in the US.

“We slowly ... socialized the expense and privatized the profit. ... Once you design a system like that ... there’s no incentive to help people. The incentive is to drive profits.” – Gary (61:52)

6. Access & Affordability: Making Health “Medicine 3.0” for Everyone

• Taylor and Will probe when advanced testing (blood panels, sleep studies) will be accessible for all.
• Gary’s answer: Systemic change requires policymakers to realize prevention is cheaper than treatment (74:28)
• Free/low-cost basics: Sunlight, grounding, breathwork, whole foods (78:32)
• “Biohacks” like red light beds are just industrialized versions of sunlight & exercise; most can DIY 90% of the benefit.

7. Peptides, Gut Health & Next-Level Recovery

• Gut is “outside” of the body, controls neurotransmitter production, immunity.
• His top peptide: BPC-157 — for recovery, gut repair, injury healing.

  “Peptides like BPC157 ... amplify your body’s healing signal ... I’m a huge fan.” – Gary (101:21)

• Other modalities: Red light therapy, hydrogen gas, cold plunge (with emphasis on basic, consistent habits over gadgets).

8. Gender, Fasting, and Personalized Health

• Fasting isn’t one-size. Women need caution, especially with narrow eating windows; blood glucose markers should guide protocol.

  “Some of the worst endocrine disasters I’ve ever had to repair are in young menstruating women that eat in a narrow window.” – Gary (117:46)

• 12-on/12-off eating window is optimal for most (119:30)

9. Longevity: Personal, Family, Societal

• For kids: Avoid folic acid-fortified/enriched foods (required in US grains since ‘93) – “get them off anything labeled ‘enriched’ or ‘fortified’.” (122:11)
• Gary shares how connection, community, and sense of purpose drive health and lifespan as much or more than nutrition (171:55)
• Gary aims for 120–140 lifespan, but emphasizes meaning, not just years.

10. Case Studies: Dana White and Jelly Roll

• Dana White had critically high blood markers; Gary’s 10-week regimen (diet shift, sleep, red light therapy, supplements) normalized Dana and got him off blood pressure meds.
• Jelly Roll: Started nearly 500lb, couldn’t sleep on his back, “trapped in a 500lb body.” Committed to 10,000 steps/day, cold plunges, and improved diet —“that probably added 25+ years to his life.” (145:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Sleep is our human superpower ... It’s bullied out of our schedules.” – Gary (38:07)
• “If you want to see magic happen in human beings, you just give their body the raw material it needs to do its job.” – Gary (48:02)
• “We're the sickest, fattest, most disease-ridden nation in the world ... and we spend $5 trillion a year on healthcare.” – Gary (52:22)
• “If I send you guys a red light bed, will you use it?” – Gary (95:28)
• “My message for humanity is: you don’t have any of those [mental] disorders. You have a nutrient deficiency.” – Gary (82:40)
• “The continuity between [blue zones] is the absence of processed food.” – Gary (153:56)
• “Aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort ... the more aggressively we pursue comfort, the faster we age.” – Gary (113:23)
• “Loneliness is the most detrimental thing to longevity ... so many of us are getting isolated in plain sight because we think connection is through our phones.” – Gary (175:04)

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Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 36:06 – Franchises’ failings & athletes taking control
• 38:07 – Gary’s “sleep, hydration, nutrition” trinity
• 45:10 – Measuring real sleep, wearables, alcohol’s impact
• 46:32 – Hangover hacks: Hydrogen water, salt, oxygen
• 59:18 – Systemic failure of US health, food pyramid
• 68:52 – MAHA wins; SNAP junk food bans, dyes out
• 74:28 – When does true prevention arrive for everyone?
• 78:32 – Biohack basics: Sunlight, grounding
• 101:21 – BPC-157, peptides for healing
• 117:46 – Intermittent fasting: men vs women
• 122:11 – #1 children’s tip: avoid folic acid in US
• 145:49 – Jelly Roll’s transformation story
• 171:55 – Gary’s view on the future of American health
• 175:04 – Loneliness, connection, and living long well

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Episode Vibe & Tone

Camaraderie, highly practical, irreverent and science-nerd-friendly. Gary blends big picture warnings about US systems with anecdotes, product recs, and “here’s what really matters” advice. The Boys keep it light, playful, and relatable, poking fun at themselves, each other, and the sometimes wild extremes of the health/wellness world.

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Practical Takeaways

• Before you ‘biohack’: Sleep, hydration (try hydrogen water/Mg/salt), whole foods, basic minerals before gadgets or supplements.
• Avoid processed foods, particularly those labeled “enriched” or “fortified” in the US.
• Peptides work—if sourced safely. BPC-157 for gut, injury, recovery.
• Cold plunges (3–6 minutes, 48–52°F) are great, but don’t need to be expensive.
• Get morning sunlight, do grounding, and re-engage with “old school” habits (walks, community, family dinners).
• For most, 12-hour feeding/fasting windows suffice.
• Real connection and purpose may be the most powerful “biohack” of all.

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Final Word

Gary’s mission is to democratize longevity, making the powerful wellness tactics available for all by focusing on fundamentals and pushing for systemic reform. The Boys promise a follow-up after 10 weeks of Gary’s restoration protocol on Taylor’s chronic back pain — "this could change your life."

“I would do anything to amplify the message that gets people to make a transformation in their life.” – Gary (182:38)

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Subscribe, implement the basics, and look out for the 10-week follow-up on Taylor’s back. The health revolution, at least on the bus, is definitely underway.

Transcript

[Gary Brecka]

All right, we're good. Be like busing with the boys.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Hanging with the fellas.

[Gary Brecka]

Betting on a game no woman's gonna tell us what to do and I bet we'.

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Just drinking.

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Beer and making that noise baby I'm.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Hanging with the fellas.

[Gary Brecka]

Busting with the boys bro.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen, to episode 323 47. God, I always forget, man. I can't believe we're 347 episodes in with the one, the only Gary Breaker. Maybe the best biohacker in the entire world. He hates that reference. We are presented by Bus of the Boys is proudly presented by one the only FanDuel sportsbook, America's number one sportsbook. Boys. It's about to be a wild week of sports and our FanDuel family is about to make it even crazier. We're talking about FanDuel Boost Fest FanDuels throwing Profit Boost tokens on our tokens our way every day from September 25th through September 28th. That's four straight days of boost on all the bangers talking baseball, golf and of course NFL and college football. They've got us covered. Whether you're the type of guy like Will Compton to build a wild 12 leg parlay or you're fully locked on that one, put one pick. FanDuel's got a profit boost sitting here waiting for you. So download that FanDuel app or head to FanDuel.com Bussin to get yourself ready for Boost Fest. Because when the games are big, the boost better be bigger.

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[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Boys, this is an incredible episode with Gary. For those of you who don't know, maybe tuning in for Gary Breca. This is one of those episodes where when Will and I met, our friendship was a lot around the biohacking world at this point. Gary Brecker wasn't a huge name seven, eight years ago, but like being able to sit down with a brilliant mind like this, talk through all sorts of different things of how to take care of your body. What are the best things you can do? This is something that is like really cool for for myself. I don't want to speak for you, but very, very fun podcast for the both of us.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, right. When we got done with this episode with Gary Breca, he looked at me straight in the face and said, your T levels will rise 50% if you shave your head. And that's why I did it for this episode.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, that's why you did it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, that's why I did it for.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That'S why you did it for this episode. If you are tuning in for the first time and you're wondering why Will looks like an extra from American History X, it is because Nebraska lost to Michigan in Lincoln. Nebraska, which is the bustable. Which is our episode. Also, who won the national championship, will, in 1997?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The Michigan Wolverines.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And who is getting $50,000 donated from bus with the boys to their nil fund?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The Michigan Wolverines.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right. And with all those things, one plus one equals Will having a bald head. Listen, Titans watch party is taking place October 5th. Where is that? At the Brooklyn Bowl. October 5th. The boys will be there. We'll be watching Titans football. Listen good batter indifference. We support them. Arizona Cardinals, Kyler Murray coming in. Their secondary is really hurt. A couple of ACLs, maybe a little groin. James Conner yesterday goes down. That's a brutal if this is Tuesday. So two days ago goes down. That is hard to see. But if you're a Titans fan, hope, optimism. Brooklyn bowl busting with the boys October 5th. That's exciting. Also, if you're here tuning in because Michigan won the bus and bowl. You're welcome. Michigan champ tees have dropped. They've been out since Monday at 10am you can see those bwtb.com get your Michigan Wolverine bus and bull champion T shirts. It's amazing. And also there's seven days till spooktober. I mean, could life get any better? Will first day of fall. Could life get any better?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

On Tuesday, On Monday. Monday as a recording. First. And by the way, we had our football recap show. If you were wondering what we said about bus bowl, college football world, NFL world, that show was released yesterday. On Monday you can check that out with Greg Olson. We tap in, we check in with him on his his middle school football team and yeah, your boy's got a new look going on right now. Lost a bet, lost the bus and bowl. The vibes are as high as they can possibly be without a Nebraska win over the weekend.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I love that. You gotta love that. Gotta feel good about that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, yeah. I mean fall coming up. We gotta lick our wounds for a bye week so we don't get to take the feel, we don't get to get the bad taste out of our mouth. Right.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Which Good. Oh, that's good. That's a good thing though.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I know, I know. Again, you look back 2020, 2012 Nebraska Cornhuskers. First four weeks, two and two. We just got mopped. We got embarrassed by Ohio State. We had a bye week to sulk in it. Bo Pelini comes in, you guys want to shot it all for the big ten. You gotta win out, you gotta win out.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What'd you guys do?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We won out.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Hell yeah you did.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Eight in a row. Eight in a row. We sprinkled off seven. Seven second half comebacks. That's got spit.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's got to juicy up a little bit.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We did get whooped in the big 12J.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's what. I didn't have to bring that up.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Didn't have to bring that up.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. Just live.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

But you're right, it is good the self scouting. Just as a fan, even as a player, you're like wanting to get back out on the field as fast as possible. You can't do it. You got to have some hard practices.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Gotta have some tough looks in the mirror.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's right.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Who do you want to be coming out of this?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's right. This is a very long episode with Gary Brecker. But we always do tear talk during the week. We leave half of it for Monday's weekend recap and then half of it for the Tuesday episode. So we will get right into that. Let's talk about Joel, Daddy, Heech. 15, whatever. Where does stuffed crust rank on the greatest food inventions of our time? It has to be up there. Hashtag cheer chug. Do you remember being a child? I don't know if it was Domino's or Pizza Hut. When they came out with that commercial and they talked about cheese, Cheese, we want more cheese. And they lifted that motherfucking pizza up and you see the cheese coming from the crust. I mean, I'm about six, but I think that's when puberty started for me because of that commercial. Will.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah. I don't know where it would rank on the all time. Let's see. Let's just go ahead and say top five. Because emotionally I'm a massive dipper of any sauce. I'm talking scooping big dip. Big dip, boy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Big dip.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Willie C. Is what they used to call me growing up.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, Big dip.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Willie C. Watch out for the cheese crust around Willie C. Yeah, that's big.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Dip Willie C out there. You got to watch out for him.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Double double dip in Willie C. Oh, double dip. And Willie C. Big dip.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Willie C. Don't care about germs. I love it now.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

They're calling me Double Dip dome right now. Double dip dome. Look at that fresh clean head. He's fresh clean head. Watch out for a wussy. Loved, love stuffed crust. Absolutely love it. Anything in front of me that I can dip my mouth. My mouth is honestly watering.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right. I'm starving too. So this is actually a tough one.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

But it is up there. Thank you for that tear talk. We love any moment that you can shout out stuffed crust or any nostalgia. Again. This tear talks for anything. You got shout out. No free shout outs. You got anything you want to get off your chest, Just put hashtag tear talk. And we will cover it on the intro.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Shout out.

[Gary Brecka]

No free Shout out Stuffed crust pizza.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Shout out. No free Shout out. Stuffed crust pizza. Yes. Absolutely.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Here we go. I love this one because he, you know, he's. He was in my. He was in my DMs. With some apologies. And we might be able to mend the bridge here. Oh, is this with a hater? This one comes to us From Joey. Fetch Joey. Joe 35t. I was wondering if we can open the negotiation window at Will Compton Taylor 1. What is one school the two of you would like to go to on your campus tour that you have not been on yet. At hash. At Bustle with the Boys. Hashtag tear talk. What is one? I wasn't expecting the Renee thing. I thought it was going to be like a negotiation window.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, stuff like that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Let's go each conference. I'll start in the Big Ten because that's where the boys went to school.

[Gary Brecka]

Penn State.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, Penn State would probably be a great place to go check out. I would love to check out Penn State.

[Gary Brecka]

Cult, though. Cultish.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's okay. So is A and M. And I.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Enjoyed myself there looking forward day. And yeah, no matter if we thought it was weird or not, like, it was still, like, you're. You're curious what the vibe is like. I would enjoy going to Penn State.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's all about immersing yourself in that culture. Also, usc, I think would be awesome to go to in the Big Ten because I remember being a young buck in Arizona going up to a couple of those things and seeing it when Pete Carroll was there, and I just remember thinking, like, this school is so sick. And the fact that's in the middle of Compton is just so crazy. Be very interesting to check that out. Wouldn't mind going up to the Northeast as well. Like, I know there's a spicy team this year. Maryland. Very exciting to see.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That would be good. But Maryland. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

All the schools out there.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I'm not about the Big Ten.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I'm just about the Big Ten.

[Gary Brecka]

Northwestern would be.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Iowa. Yeah. No, Iowa. Iowa City. Actually.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I heard.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I heard a lot of good things about Iowa City. Iowa. Iowa strikes me as a place, too. It's, like, similar to Ann Arbor, Michigan, where it's like, there's staple food places you can go to. That's like, if you're in Iowa City, you gotta go here. They'll tell you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Casey's gas station, baby.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's what they'll tell you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Grew up on some cases. Casey's is good. And there's just something about going to Iowa and just getting some ringworm in the wrestling room. Yeah, just go catch some ringworm in the wrestling room.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You know, where's. I know this is about where we'd want to go. One place I would never want to go to is East Lansing. East Lansing. Michigan. Acc.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah. I could see. I could see the. The Eastland.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's slum. It's a. Yeah, it's just like, what do you guys have to offer? Nothing.

[Gary Brecka]

What was it like when we play there?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Actually, the. The environment. I mean, it was. I played at Michigan, so obviously it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Was a much more fun little stadium.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

They have a fun stadium. Is it. Is Loud. They do get rocking in East Lansing. They. I will give them credit there. But yeah, them ACC would love to.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Go tour even though they're down bad right now.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Clemson, I was thinking Florida State would be awesome to go check out.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I was going to say Florida State.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, you weren't there for that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Oh, yeah, you guys went to Florida State. I forgot about that. Yeah. Okay, then I'll dip down on Clemson. I think that'd be cool. I think it's nuts that you make your players run down that hill. I think that is crazy right there. You're asking for a soft tish. Miami be nasty, too. I would love to see Miami, but yeah, good spot. Sec. This might be a dark horse. Or Kansas Razorbacks. I think that would be.

[Gary Brecka]

Fun, bro. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Holes in the wall.

[Gary Brecka]

I'm saying there's nothing out there but Arkansas.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right. And that's kind of what you want. Like, that's what bus with the boys in the spring tour is kind of all about, is like, let us highlight you and what you guys have to offer because when the. When the common man thinks about Arkansas, you think about hunting and tornadoes. Like, you're not really thinking about, like, what is Arkansas? Was it Fayetteville?

[Gary Brecka]

Fayetteville.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Fayetteville. Have to, like, offer. And so I think it's just like a sneaky little spot. We've been to lsu. We've been to Alabama Day Experience.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Ole Miss.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. I heard it's very hoity toity chandeliers at the tailgate.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Let's wear a suit. Let's wear gloves.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I kind of mess with that. We've been to Georgia.

[Gary Brecka]

What about Missouri, Columbia, Missou?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Mizzou would be fun. I've been to.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's what I was thinking.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

But that would be fun to bring the boys and like, do a bus on the boys experience.

[Gary Brecka]

Gotta bring Chandler.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Gotta bring Mike Chandler.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Gotta bring my channel. I think Gainesville, Florida, the Florida Gators would be awesome as well.

[Gary Brecka]

That would.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yes. I mean, honestly, a lot of those SEC schools would be awesome.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

To be honest, I feel like we're gonna go through every conference and say all the schools, like, we already have. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We ain't going to Purdue, buddy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No. I will say this about Purdue. They have a great aviation school. When you go to a game against the Boilermakers, you fly in. Literally, the stadium's right there. That's nice.

[Gary Brecka]

Okay.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That is nice.

[Gary Brecka]

Other than that, going back to Big Ten. What about Washington?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Washington be good. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Washington would be fun because they. They tailgate on the water they tailgate on water and their place gets loud.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

As in the north.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

It's all aluminum. All aluminum.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Smart. Very smart. You know, a school that needs us, probably help them out a little bit. Ucla.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We ain't going to ucla. We go out to la. I mean, even usc. Like, that'd be cool to go to for the rich tradition and everything else. Yeah. With like the early 2000s, but they suck. We ain't going to LA to check out some ball.

[Gary Brecka]

No.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You want to go see ball?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You're going to Oregon State.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Oregon State, O Madison, Wisconsin, the Badgers. What we talking about?

[Gary Brecka]

That would rip.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

That would rip, bro.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Cuz I heard they go so hard there.

[Gary Brecka]

They have like a. I think it's like a weekend or a week every year. This isn't football related, but like the lake freezes over and they literally just party like, it's like frat row and they just party on the lake all weekend.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, yeah, I've heard.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Like, what's the game? It's like, you want to go experience a night game at Oregon State? Is that a thing?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I don't think you want to experience anything at Oregon State right now.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

In Oregon State, they got some. They got some Dallas stadium renovation, but.

[Gary Brecka]

I think Washington's as far as like, the Northwest goes. Oregon and Washington.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, Oregon. Washington is absolute.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I would love busing with the boys to get to a place where we can go to like some Mac schools, check out some smaller schools.

[Gary Brecka]

Miami of Ohio.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Miami of Ohio. Ball State. Go check them out a little bit. Go Mountain West Conference. You go and check out Boise State, unlv. You. Well, yeah, I'll go to unlv. I'll be in UNLV the first week in October. Pop by there all the time.

[Gary Brecka]

Boise State would be cool.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Boise would be sick. Maybe it'd be fun to go check those schools out.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We ain't training weekend to go to Ball State, I'm telling you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right. Yeah, you're right.

[Gary Brecka]

You are right. What about going out to like, Hawaii or something?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, this is the travel. Like, that's the first thing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I think they just don't take their ball serious out there.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No, they don't.

[Gary Brecka]

There's some.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You don't go where people take their ball serious.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I heard a rumor about Hawaii is you can't go on an official visit there unless you're committed. That's what I heard.

[Gary Brecka]

Well, it's probably so expensive to fly.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Anybody who offers them, they're probably like, yeah, I want to go to Hawaii.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, a good one. Right now. Oh, Lubbock, Texas. Texas Tech.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Sickos. They would go nuts.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, Texas Tech would be sick to go check out. Utah would be cool too.

[Gary Brecka]

Byu. Oh, byu.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I don't know. I would just love to go to.

[Gary Brecka]

A game at their stadium. I've heard that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I was State. Iowa State would be fun.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I always say it'd be great. I always be awesome.

[Gary Brecka]

A lot of schools out there we want to check.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

A lot of schools you want to check out.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Great question, Joey Fats.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

And thank you for showing up to the show too. I know you have. You've always been a supporter of ours. Sometimes you've gotten a little nasty.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Got a little nasty.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

And I hate when you come at the boys. Not, not, not the boys like us. But when I see you coming out, even our boys in the back of the bus at certain times where you think it's. You might in your head think you're trolling, but it doesn't come off as trolling. That's what chaps my ass.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Now. Joey Fats was at the live show in Lincoln, Nebraska at the Rococo Theater, which, by the way, was an incredible showing by everybody. Thank you everybody for coming. Joey Fats is right there, left of stage, front row, front row. And his ass got called out. Will pointed him and goes, I know who you are. So we brought his ass up for a second to give a call. He seemed like he realized he fucked up a little bit. Turned a corner. He turned. It's. I think he turn, hoping, turning. Joey Fats turning. I think he's in the middle. He's got the blinker on.

[Gary Brecka]

Gotcha.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

He's got the blinker.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

For us observing, it seems like he's got the blinker right. I think he's, he's turning a corner for sure.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

His actions in the next couple of weeks, that'll show a lot.

[Gary Brecka]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Next one comes from Mike, by the way.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Hey, that, that live show was incredible.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, it was.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I'm saying the live show was incredible with the, with the birthday cake and then the, the surprise with Connor. Stallions coming up, the video, the video together for you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

The last part of the video when it's Charo and your kids. I don't know why I'm sitting over there getting choked up. Yeah, I'm sitting there, like, not even my kids, they live 10 minutes away.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

From me because, you know, the players too. It's like, hey, you mind doing a birthday video?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What the hell, right? Yeah, that's what. Well, I don't want to point it out during the live show, but seeing Raiola's execution on that, because I saw his video before, I was like, they're losing. This is your hero and you're, hey, man, we're gonna get it done.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

They were focused. They were focused.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Happy, happy birthday. Will, get out there. I was like, oh, Dylan, come on.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Taking shots at my boys, right? No, no, hey, no.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

If you watch the reaction show, if you watch the reaction show, you watch me jumping in on Matt Rules podcast. Like, I, I know people are mad at me for playing heel this weekend, which is the, the only choice I really had. I'm a huge fan of Nebraska. I'm a huge fan of the people. I'm a huge fan of the culture that Matt Rules establishing there. Like, yeah, I don't think you're going to beat my team. Sue me. Like, I think my team's better than yours. Sue me. You know, I think we should have pulled away that game multiple times. Sue me. But like, I love Lincoln, Nebraska and I love these 17 year old kids. Can I tell you a story?

[Gary Brecka]

Go ahead.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

During the thing, there was a, there Was a guy like, I'm walking by four gentlemen that are also on the sidelines in the end zone, side by the student section. And one guy goes, hey, you're gonna have a long day today. But he says it with a zero conviction. So I tell him, hey, what's your name? My name is John. Hey, John, good to meet you. Hey, here's what I'm gonna do for you. I'm Gonna actually take 10 steps back. I'm gonna redo it. But when you say it, say it like you mean it. He's like, you don't gotta do that. So, you know, let's do it real quick. So I went and did it. He's like, you guys have a long day today. That's my boy. So we're getting better. Talking shit in Nebraska. Yeah, we're getting better.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And I do. I do love. I do Love Nebraska at M15. Casper, this is Michael Casper. He says, @Taylor,1, hashtag tear talk, favorite bus and bowl victories. The next one, that's my favorite one. But if you're going to go off these last four in a row, it's three. So, yeah, you're right. We've won five in a row. So you're right. Only three. Busing. I would say this one, because this is the closest. Truth is the closest these two teams have been from a competitive standpoint. And I said it in the intro. It's like, every time the old Nebraska would falter and Michigan would pull away, Nebraska figured out a way to stay in the game the whole time. And I think that's. That's impressive. I know it didn't go the way Nebraska wanted, but at the end of the day, like, you could tell the culture's in the right spot. So this one, because that is the most competitive Nebraska football team I've seen.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Dustin Croom, Tear talk. You guys keep killing it. Take away the sports, what you do for myself and a lot of men, just give us the escape from reality. You boys are special. Keep crushing it. Go Gamecocks. Dustin, thank you for your kind words, bro. I appreciate it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, there was a. We did a. A meet and greet after our live show, and that one guy came up to us. Was it his dad passing away?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Or something. He just said, like, regardless of all the things that have happened in my life, listening to you guys helped me. And anytime. That type of conversation, you got to catch us just right, right. Like it's a long day. He sits there and tells us the story. And there was two long hugs from Both of us. And I just think to myself, like, like it's crazy to think that this show does that for people.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And because it's at the end of the day, like this was built to have fun and sometimes you realize, like people just need to laugh. Just gotta laugh and have a good time.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

So then we have. We had one gentleman who had lost his seven month old that I could.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Have cried right there.

[Gary Brecka]

Sure.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I had a couple pt, six moments where it was just like. You're just like reading a comment. A dude had me. We were at the fence talking. Him and his wife were massive fans and watch for the dads every week and stuff like that. And he's just talking to me about dad left. I'm like, buddy, you gotta, you gotta stop. I got the eyes starting to gloss over right now. And then that one cat who was at the meet and greet talking about his seven month old is like a. Obviously it's like a tear jerker.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

But thank you. Thank you for your comment, Dustin. You are the man, bro.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Brian Alfaro at Bcore Alpha 14 says favorite will Compton crash out. Hashtag tear talk. Favorite Will Compton crash out.

[Gary Brecka]

I have one like that came to mind. But I don't know if it was like. It was when you two fought on the bus because that was crazy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That was crazy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Fought on the bus when we fight.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That was like all will too.

[Gary Brecka]

That was like two. That was when Taylor was pointing in your face like you didn't get 10. And you were like, get your finger out of my face. And then Taylor just poked the bear some more. And then.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And I'm. I'm also eight weeks removed from an ACL surgery.

[Gary Brecka]

This was like two years ago.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Was that the hand fighting?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, that's.

[Gary Brecka]

No, that's when you stood up and.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Embodied an injured individual. Literally. I still had a handicap sticker in my car.

[Gary Brecka]

Taylor, you. You also did go for the throat.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, I had to protect myself.

[Gary Brecka]

What was this fight over?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Some I can't even remember. Do you remember?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, it was back when you're 10.

[Gary Brecka]

Years in the league.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Oh yeah. That is exactly what it was.

[Gary Brecka]

It's literally in our intro for the show.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, I said something about Will playing eight and he got on my ass about it and I just kind of kept going. I had to find out. I had to find out that. Yeah. What's a good Will Compton crash out though?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

They usually got to be over Nebraska.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think of.

[Gary Brecka]

I think the, the picture of you Laying in the road was all time.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. I think when it was a funny one. When Nebraska lost to UCLA last year, that was a good crush out moment for Will. I don't know.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Grant Short. I got one here. Hashtag tear talk. When do people start to rank Jalen Hurts in the top five at the quarterback position?

[Gary Brecka]

Never.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, I think it's tough, man. You can't, like, argue with this resume. He's a Super bowl champion. Was he the MVP at the super bowl last year?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I think Saquon was.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Saquon. He's just. He's on an incredible team.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You know what I mean? I think it's hard. It's like. Yeah. When he starts, like, peppering, throwing the, like just winning through the air at all times, and he gets into those actual MVP conversations, I think is when he's like a top five quarterback right now, it's like, you know, I'm not saying he's not good. I'm not saying he's not top five. I think just being in the overall universal top five category for all of national media and for all the people, like, he's got to be out here slinging the rock, which he doesn't have to because he has Saquon Barkley. Not saying he can't do it. I'm just saying he just does. Like, it just doesn't happen on the field.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right? Yeah. Jalen Hurts is in a very unique situation where all these, like, top five quote quarterbacks, the Josh Allens, the Joe Burrows, the Patrick Mahomes, the Lamar Jacksons, Josh Allen.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. That was the first person I said. When you look at them, it's like they do it because their team needs them to do it. Jalen Hurts is a part of a team that they don't necessarily. I mean, they went to a no without him throwing a touchdown. First time in 15 years anybody was able to do that. Like, he doesn't need to be Superman just yet to be successful. And so does it hinder the conversation? We were talking about a top five quarterback maybe, probably, but. And you got aliens. Like, you work with what you're given. And so the Eagles are nasty.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Right. Like, you play the hypotheticals all day long, you just don't like it. You just don't know. It's like, if he was in the Baker situation, is he going and doing what Baker's doing? And with the Buccaneers with that squad, I'm not saying they're a bad squad, but it's like, is he. That's where Baker starts to come into these conversations because he's just winning games, game winning drives, slinging the rock all around the yard.

[Gary Brecka]

Baker's putting the team on his back. I don't think Jalen has ever really. All right, I'm gonna take this game over.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Those.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Those were the. Those are the three I had.

[Gary Brecka]

Good.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No, hold on. There's more. Can. My Uber Eats is outside. Can somebody go grab that?

[Gary Brecka]

Or I can grab it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You sure?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You don't mind this tear talk comes from at Jesse Z. Who's stopping Michigan from being 10 and 1 when the Buckeyes go to Ann Arbor? I mean, schedule, you can't ever have any guarantees or anything.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Who are, who are like the big games for you guys?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

We got Wisconsin, then we got usc, and then I believe we have someone else. We got Maryland on the schedule, Michigan State, to be honest, like, it's pretty easy schedule. If Michigan is going to do. Michigan's in a good position to be 10 and 1. Going to Ohio State. And then we all know how the last four years have worked, so.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

So really, you guys are on the road at usc.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

On the road at USC is the biggest test.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You don't have Penn State.

[Gary Brecka]

Nope.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You don't have Oregon?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Nope.

[Gary Brecka]

Indiana?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Nope.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Do you have Washington?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yes, we do. At home.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Washington's not bad.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Washington's not bad. But I love the fact that it's at home.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

100.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And the last one I have is from Sad Underscore Vol.

[Gary Brecka]

Can you talk in the mic?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Top 3.

[Gary Brecka]

Hottest bald dudes Will.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Will looks hot.

[Gary Brecka]

Jason Statham.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I was thinking Jason Statham.

[Gary Brecka]

Josh Pate.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Josh.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Josh.

[Gary Brecka]

Josh.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Paid to handsome boy with the bald head.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

The Rock.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The Rock.

[Gary Brecka]

The Rock is one. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The Rock.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Well, Will's one. The rocks too.

[Gary Brecka]

What about like, can we depict like people that have been bald? Like, what about Professor X in the Professor X?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Charles Xavier. Yeah, yeah. John Travolta.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

He's bald now.

[Gary Brecka]

He is bald.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. If you took Grease John Travolta and made him bald, then he's number one.

[Gary Brecka]

Number one.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

So good looking handsome boy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. You wanted three, we gave you six boys. I hope you feel good about it. I feel good about it as well. Gary Breca.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Gary Breca. Michigan Championship tees dropped on Monday or dropped yesterday. First day of fall we got coming up. Spooktober. Spooky season is upon a seven days away.

[Gary Brecka]

Yes.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Titans watch party, October 5th. We were telling you guys about that. That'll be at the Brooklyn Bowl.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Let's have some positivity at that one, too. Let's, let's. When you come to that watch party, bring three things you can say positive about the Tennessee Titans. Let's keep it positive.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Or if you're mad and sad, come, we're gonna embrace you. Yeah, we're gonna have a fun time watching ball.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

But let's be half full, right? And if it's bad, bad, bad, we'll be a quarter full. You know, let's just try to keep positive twists. I mean, there's no one better having a positive twist more than Willie C. Double Diploma.

[Gary Brecka]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, you guys will enjoy this episode. This is a good one with Gary Bruckett.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Two and a half hour interview with the man himself. Waiting on that red light bed.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

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[Gary Brecka]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Ladies and gentlemen, this interview is with a very special guest. I met this man super bowl two years ago. As we're all watching the game, he's doing body weight squats in the back telling everybody how they should how they should not eat. He has now become one of the most famous biohacking individuals in the entire world taking the world by storm, taking guys like Dana White, taking his body morphing into an absolute six pack, taking a man like jelly Roll who is half of a ton and bringing him down into around I think low threes now.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Our guest, the one, the only Gary.

[Gary Brecka]

Br.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And as always, these interviews are sponsored by Bud Light is always proven for simple ingredients for a clean Chris taste. Bud Light is the official beer sponsor of the NFL NFL Draft tight end, you UFC and Shane Gillis's 2025 tour. Bud Light partners include Peyton Manning, George Kittle, Taylor1, Baker Mayfield, will Compton, Emmett Smith, Shane Gillis, Post Malone, Dustin Poirier. Stock up on Bud Light.com Stock up on Bud Light headed www.budlight.com forward/locator. Find a store near you easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Gary, can I tell you a little history of Will and I 100%. So in 2018, Will came from the Washington Commanders to the Tennessee Titans right then and there. We met in the breakfast chow hall, became best friends. The one of the foundational pieces of our friendship was a thing we like to call accountability, buddy. There was guys like Ben Greenfield, Andrew Huberman. Yeah, he was in the Citizen. Ben Greenfield was a big one. Greenfield, obviously we're big into Rogan, all these other podcasts, but we took a lot of these biohacking thoughts and you know, things that people do, we would do sauna protocols, cold tub protocols and we keep each other accountable during that process. So a lot of our friendship and the foundation is a lot of what you great man, which is incredible to have you on.

[Gary Brecka]

And I know a lot of athletes like take that into their own hands because, you know, I, I've worked with a lot of professional athletes. Kind of astounding to me how little some of these billion dollar franchises do for players off the field. When it, when you, when it comes to rec and nutrition and sleep and supplementation, it's kind of left to the guys at the, at the highest end of the game that just want the best of the best for themselves. They just take it into their own hands. Like, you know, Tom Brady travel with his own trainer, you know, traveled with his own food because it just wasn't available to him. Now I don't know if that's changing. I think that it should change. I, I sit on the board of the NFL Alumni Association Athletica and I see a lot of these guys after the game, the repetitive use injuries and the, you know, the wear and tear that they've had. I'm sure that Both of you guys have plenty of, of nips and bibbles going on in your body somewhere. But at the highest, highest end, they just take the responsibility and into their own hands.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, it's, it's. I mean, obviously the NFL, it's a business, and they're trying to figure out the best ways to make the most money without putting as much as they can into all the players. They want them to be successful. But when it comes to recovery, taking care of your body, withstanding 20 weeks of what people call a car accident every Sunday.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's really put on the players.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And what you're able to do. And it's like, diet is one, one, one thing. Nutrition, cold tubs, saunas, Then there's red light. One thing that I've realized is, like, there's always another layer.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So, like, for you, if you're speaking to the athletes right now, how far do we have to go here? Like, because there's you, there's always. Once you figure out, okay, I'm healthy. I'm now eating, putting this in my food so I have a little more nutrients here. Okay. Now I realize I can go and do nad. Then there's ozone, then there's hyperbaric chambers.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Hey, I'm a big coffee guy. There's a certain bean.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

There's always another 1% that you're trying to chase.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

And there is.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

If I'm, like, in my first year in the NFL or I'm a freshman, or I'm whatever I am, and I am in the pursuit of being an elite athlete. What are some non negotiables that you'd say if you don't do anything at all, do this.

[Gary Brecka]

So three, three absolute non negotiables. First of all, sleep is our human superpower.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I knew you're gonna say that is.

[Gary Brecka]

The, that is the.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's also the hardest.

[Gary Brecka]

I know Sleep, water.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. A brisk walk, nasally.

[Gary Brecka]

I'd love to say, you know, it's the red light. Better. It's the supplements that I manufacture. It's a specific test. It's NAD. It's, you know, resveratrol, CoQ10. It's not, you know, if you, if you look at the big data, Right. I mean, if you look at blue zones, for example, what is extending life the longest? You know, it's not keto, paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian. It's not dogmatic dieting. It's eating whole foods. It's the absence of processed foods. If you look at the non negotiables in those areas of the world too. You see that it's sense of community, sense of purpose, like what you guys were doing with each other, supporting each other, building a real community inside of your community that is incredibly important to your success. It's actually incredibly important to the way that your brain is wired. It actually gives you the why. And then I would say start with your sleep. And sleep is the most bullied thing in our schedule, right? I mean, a lot of, a lot of guys, when they get to an elite level of competition, there is some genetic component, they have some natural talent, right? I mean, obviously they didn't get there without working hard, but the first thing to go is, is, is sleep. And if you think about, everybody knows sleep is important, but nobody tells you why, right? And there's two, two areas of sleep. There's REM sleep and there's deep sleep that are critically important. So during REM sleep, this is when you're assembling your memory. All the things that you learn during the day, maybe you learned at practice, routes that you were running, you know, new, new plays that you're getting ready to run. Anything that is newly learned during the day gets assembled during REM sleep. So your hippocampus, your memory and your prefrontal cortex get together and they get to talk for the first time. Eruption. Right. Normally what's happening is you have all this noise coming in all day long. I mean, you're, you're at practice, you're catching balls, you're, you know, you're being dictated to. You're moving around, you're traveling, you're packing your bag. So there's all this noise coming into the brain. REM sleep at night, you assemble these memories. Once you assemble memories, you actually start to get to what's called fine motor skills. And the difference between a good athlete and, and a great athlete is the last five yards. It's hand eye coordination, speed, timing and agility. You already have the strength, right? You, you, you already have the, the know how. But that last little edge, hand, eye coordination, speed, timing and agility, that's the difference between a good athlete and a great athlete. And the second part of sleep is your deep sleep. And what happens during deep sleep? If you've heard of the lymphatic system, you know you've got lymph nodes. You get, your lymph nodes swell when you get a sore throat. Well, you have a lymphatic system in the brain called the glymphatic system. System the only time that that system is active, really active, is during deep sleep. So what's happening during deep sleep is that glymphatic system is draining all the waste from the brain. And by waste, I mean cellular waste. So you want to be sharp, you want to be acute, you want to be on your game, you want to have good hand, eye coordination, speed, timing, agility, you practice sleep, you, you actually, you, you schedule like right now, I, I, one of the great things about being semi successful in this industry is we made a decision two and a half years ago that we would schedule all of our meetings and travel around sleep and exercise, full stop. So I don't schedule travel and meetings ahead of my sleep. I schedule sleep, exercise and then meetings and travel. So if somebody wants to hire me to speak at 8:30 in the morning, I won't take, I won't take the, the gig. I mean, I, I'm like, I'll speak at 10:30, I'll speak at 11, because that, that, that, that first hour of the day, you know, belongs only to me. I give the rest of my day away. But I'm selfish about that first hour of the day. So number one, it would be, it would be sleep. Number two, and this is the most overlooked thing I think, in all of modern medicine and all of modern sports is we don't cater to the 70% of our circulation that is not done by the heart. If you ask, asked thousand people how much blood is circulated by the heart, they'd say 100. Our heart circulates all the blood in our body. It doesn't. It only circulates 30% of the blood in your body. 70% of your circulation is microvascular, right? It's, it's as small or smaller than a human hair. So 70 of the blood moving around your body, including your brain and all your fine motor skills and your muscles, it's not done by the heart. It's done by an activity called vasomotor. So how do I cater to vasomotor? How do I actually get that edge? How do I get into that 70 of my circulation that nobody else is paying attention to? You do things like hydrate, hydrate with hydrogen gas, hydrogen water, you can use elemental magnesium tablets. I mean, if you talk to Tom Brady, he had a hydrogen water bottle with him 24, 7, everywhere that he went, still does to this day. He's always carrying that thing around. It's like his blankie because that caters to the vasomotor that, that switches the lights on and it's dirt cheap. You can travel with it. You can get an elemental magnesium tablet, you can drop it into water, you can get a hydrogen water bottle, you can, you can consume that type of water. Because all these big brands, you know, that are the best known brands, they're not the best brands for you. They're not in service to your cellular biology. So you're right about hydration, but you can be super smart about hydration. Put hydrogen gas into the body and then you've got to cover the basics of, of essential amino acids, which is very hard to get from, from your diet. I mean, most people think amino acids are proteins. They're not, they're the building blocks of proteins. When you have the right amount of amino acids in your body, you're not just building muscle, you're building everything else. Connective tissue. You see the, the. If I was to say what's the biggest problem in the NFL that is preventable? It's non contact injuries, right? You can't have a, you can't have a star running back blowing an Achilles heel coming in off the sideline to get in the game, game to start. You know, traumatic injuries, there's not a lot you can do about those, right? I mean, if your foot's planted and you get a hard enough lateral check, there goes your acl, right? But you shouldn't be blasting down the field and cut left, you know, in a route and, and cut a 90 degree turn and blow in a key, you know, blow an acl, you shouldn't blow an Achilles heel coming in off the, off the sideline. That tells me that we're not catering to that, to that last five yards. And, and then the final thing I would say is, and this is hard when you're on the road, but if, if I was only to have of one modality, it would probably be red light. Because the science on red light is, is absolute, just like the science on saunas. I think that, you know, when you're eliminating waste, when you're circulating all of that stuff and put using your, your skin as a secondary route of waste elimination, when you're clean, you're performing. So I would say sauna or red light light, hydrogen gas and focusing on sleep.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

When, say you're talking to an athlete and they, they say they get between like eight, nine hours of sleep a night and, but they haven't, they haven't seen how effective they are at sleeping, what would you recommend to those athletes go and do? Is it a sleep study? Is it something? Is It a wearable that they can use, but something that tells them that they're effectively or sleeping correctly.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it's a wearable. You need to get data. What you don't measure, you can't change. Right. And so if it's an aura ring, if it's a whoop, if it's, you know, if it's a Fitbit, something to give you data, what, what really causes you to achieve deep sleep? Because you'll see that every time I drink alcohol, 100% of the time, it's going to interrupt my sleep.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

If I two, two, sometimes three days.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. And, and not for the reasons that you think. It's actually not the alcohol, it's what the alcohol becomes. You see, alcohol is metabolized into something called acetyl aldehyde. So the liver takes alcohol, turns it into something called acetyl aldehyde. What this does is it drops the ph of the blood. So the ph range of the blood is very narrow. Your performance range is between like 7.2, 7.8. If you're in that range and you're slightly alkaline, that is your performance zone. Soon as you become acidic. I mean, the whole pain from a hangover is from the, it's not only the dehydration, it's from the acetyl aldehyde, it's from the drop in ph of your blood. That's why you can stop a hangover in its tracks. If you drink hydrogen water. If you, if you actually put on a nasal canulus and just breathe a little oxygen, oxygen, you'd raise the ph of the blood.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

A nasal what?

[Gary Brecka]

A nasal cannulous, like a little. You ever seen the, like an oxygen concentrator? Yeah, like a little oxygen tank and it runs into your nose. You put it over your ears and you just ran some oxygen.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You're saying you get rid of a hangover by putting that and drinking hydrogen water.

[Gary Brecka]

If you took, if you took a 10 ounce glass of water, then you put an elemental magnesium tablet, a hydrogen water tablet in there, it's about 12 parts per million hydrogen. You added to that a mineral solution, salt, like a Celtic salt, Baja gold salt, or a really good mineral salt, even a red and sea salt. If you put sea salt, hydrogen water in a 10 ounce glass of water, drank that back and ran 15 minutes of oxygen, I don't care how bad your hangover is, it would be over inside of 20 minutes. Interesting pH, interesting.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I might be back, boys.

[Gary Brecka]

I feel like somebody just ordered an oxygen Tank. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Well, I. I have two kids, and as my kids started to get older and they want to consistently play, I would notice if I had, like, one, two, even, like, three drinks.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

The next day, I feel like a bag of dicks. I just feel terrible. And I'm like, now I'm sitting on the couch, I'm more, like, distracted by my. I'm allowing the distractions to take over because I'm trying to get away from the pain that I'm essentially feeling.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And not being like, you know, the fun dad, which is kind of what everybody wants to be.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So I was like, all right, I'm going to kind of step away from drinking a little bit where I don't do it so much anymore. More. And it's made it way easier. But if you're saying we got hacks out there.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Now we're starting to reevaluate. Re. Change. Right.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

We're trying to move it down the. Move it down a little bit.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. And if you think about it, you know, most people think that the pain's coming from their brain. You know, you get a headache, and you think your. Your brain hurts. You know, you feel like the pain's behind your eyes or you feel like it's in your temples. You. You got to remember, the brain actually has no pain receptors. The brain is actually not capable of generating. Generating a pain signal. So your hangover is actually not coming from your brain. It's coming from the covering of the brain. There's. There's something called the dura, which is like a Saran Wrap, which is stretched over the top of the brain. And the dura hates two things. It hates being stretched and hates being contracted. So what causes it to stretch or contract is sodium gradient and water. So the first thing that happens when you get a hangover is you're dehydrated, but your. Your sodium and electrolytes drop. And so the dura shrinks, and now you got a brutal headache. It's like, you know, all. All over. And that pain's not coming from your brain. So as soon as you restore that gradient, the pain's gone. You wouldn't believe how many. In fact, there's a clinical study. It was in the Wiley Journal of Headaches, if you guys want to look it up. If you're a science nerd like I am. And they took about 8, 600 participants that suffered from chronic migraines. And these were migraines that weren't responding to traditional narcotics, weren't responding to injections of Botox. You know, they actually will inject Botox sometimes to try to stop migraines. And they put them on a mineral salt. I'm Talking about a five dollar bag, ten dollars bag of mineral salt that had all 91 trace minerals, something like Celtic or Baja gold sea salt. They added that to water. In the majority of those cases, migraines went permanently into remission. So you can do the same thing with hangovers, right? I mean, it's like, it's. What's astounding is if, if you want to see magic happen in human beings, you just give their body the raw material it needs to do its job. Everybody wants a really, really cool, unique, special hack. And I think there's some incredible science on longevity now. But by the time that you're flirting with stem cells and exosomes and natural killer cells and really advanced modalities, you got to cover the basics, you know? Right. And so that just takes everything back to sleep. Sleep. Getting processed foods out of your diet that will slow you down, making sure that you're hydrated, you meet the minimum amino acid requirement, you get all 91 trace minerals in a mineral salt. And I'll tell you, man, you'd see, you would see game changing performance in the upper echelon of athletes. Just by closing that last five.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You bring up all the, like, extracurriculars, the exosomes, the stem cells, the IVs, all those things. Is it fair to say or is it too dramatic to be like, if you're not taking care of what you just talked about, the whole foods and taking care of the raw minerals, then that's just a waste of money.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, I mean, you, you hear people say all the time, you can't diet your way around poor sleep. Right. You can't exercise your way around a poor diet. Right? So if you line those things up, your, your training is ostensibly, if you're an elite athlete, your training's already on point, right? You're training not to hurt yourself. You're probably doing position training for whatever sport you're playing. So in strength and conditioning now, I think has, has hit its ceiling. Meaning we know about as much about muscle hypertrophy and muscle hyperplasia and recovery as we're doing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

All the trainers are pretty much in place everywhere you look for those things.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, no, no, no. Professional sports team or very unlikely that a professional sports team has really, really shitty strength and conditioning coaches, right? These guys know what they're doing. They've forgotten more about strength and conditioning than I'LL ever know. Right? So that, that's, that's not the area where you get the edge. The area where you get the edge is being in service to your cellular biology, making sure you are hydrated. You're getting the basics, like deep sleep. Stop putting processed foods in your diet. You know the biggest, the most prevailing theory in aging now, if you were to take the top 50 scientists, MDs, PhDs, researchers in the world, put them all in a room and get them to agree on one thing, they would all agree that aging is something called immuno fatigue. We are slowly and progressively overwhelming our immune system to the point where it can no longer defend us. If you take an infant and you pull their blood, you would find that about 65% of what their immune system is doing is protecting the baby. By the time you get to be my age, I'm in my mid-50s. By the time you get to be in your 40s, only about 35% of the immune system is protecting you. The rest of the time, it's fighting all this. Glyphosates, paraquats, microplastics, bisphenols, just all the nonsense that we are putting into our body that is causing the immune system to get distracted. Then what happens? Circulating tumor cell slips. By now, you got colon cancer. Every person listening to this podcast right now at some point in their life has had something called a circulating tumor cell, meaning a circulating. It's a cancer cell, but the immune system saw it and just took it out. Right. So if we can keep our immune system on our side, that's where, that's where you really start talking about extended, you know, lifespan.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Do you ever get resistant to the, the term biohacking?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Being in your line of work. Because biohacking is like, you know, biohacking, or doctors could see and be like, this is like a shortcut guy.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Talk about your resistance to the term biohackers.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Hold on. I officially feel bad about his intro calling one of the best biohackers.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

When you were saying biohackers, I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, I wonder if he enjoys.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I can understand why that would. Would be. Makes sense to us, right? Like, oh, biohacker dumb brains are like, biohacking makes sense. Yeah. To a cultured mind like this.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The people in this industry and feel that. I'm sure they probably are like, here we go.

[Gary Brecka]

No, no, not at all. You know, I think, I think, you know, what's amazing is, you know, we get attacked a lot by the by call it mainstream media, mainstream modern medicine. But the, the, the data is not on the side of modern medicine. Medicine, right? I mean, we, in this country, we spend $5 trillion a year on healthcare. We are the sickest, fattest, most disease ridden nation in the world. You know, we as Americans, we lead the world in six things. We lead the world in infant mortality, we lead the world in maternal mortality. We lead the world in morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes and multiple chronic disease in the same body. And. But yet we spend $5 trillion a year on healthcare. And you know, even in my industry, a lot of the, a lot of the big biohackers will attack me sometimes because I'm talking about the basics of human physiology. And they're like, well, there's no randomized clinical trial that's been peer reviewed that proves that. I'm like, well, there's never been a randomized clinical trials that prove parachutes either. But we have data, right? Nobody's going to jump out of an airplane without a parachute. But we've never done a clinical study with a control group where we had a bunch of people jump out with one. And without one we'd have, have real. Right? Who wants to be in that control group? Yeah, sorry, Stan, you get the nap, you know, knapsack in the Bible and then this group over here gets the parachute. But the point is like, very often we have real data. We've done 276,000 randomized clinical trials in this, in this, in this country. And that's the gold standard of medicine. And yet it's led us to be the sickest, fattest, most disease ridden they in the world. And so you don't find it there. You, you, you find, you know, the best of human performance and longevity in the basics. And the truth is, most people are just not new in the basics. But I don't mind that term, biohacking. I mean, you know, I never had the luxury in my entire career of having access to chemicals and pharmaceuticals and synthetics. You know, I always had to find ways to restore good function in the body by just giving it back the raw material it needs to do its job. You know, it's funny, we believe this in plant physiology, right? If, if you had a leaf, let's say, rotting in a palm tree, and you called a true arborist, like a true botanist, out to your house, they wouldn't even touch the leaf. They would cortest the soil and they would go, you know what, there's, there's no nitrogen in this soil. They would Add nitrogen to the soil and the leaf would, would heal. Right? Human beings are no different. Right. There's not a single compound known to mankind. There is no protein, mineral, vitamin, amino acid. There's no nutrient of any kind that we put into the human body that gets used in the form that we put it in. Without a single exception, everything that goes into our body gets converted into the usable form. It goes through a process of being converted so the body can use it. This process is called methylation. So, like, you take folic acid, the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet, the body converts it into methylfolate. If you don't have methylfolate because your body can't make this conversion, what happens? Well, now you're walking around with anxiety, you're walking around with mood numbness. Your gut motility is off. So now you have gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping. So what do you do? You start doing food allergy testing testing, and food sensitivity testing. Nothing seems to work. I eat the same thing Monday. I blow up like a tick. I eat the exact same thing on Wednesday, and I'm fine. Well, that can't be a food allergy. So very often what happens in human beings is we get nutrient deficient, and then all of a sudden, we have the expression of this deficiency over here. Like, I'm walking around with this, like, generalized anxiety. Like, I, I don't know why, like, always feel anxious. I always feel this sense of being, of anxiety. Then I'm sure there's listeners of yours listening to this podcast right now. They're like, dude, that's exactly how I feel. Well, if you have anxiety and you can't point to the specific trigger, like, I get it. If you're, if you're afraid of heights and you walk to the edge of a 30th floor balcony, I expect you to feel anxious. If you're claustrophobic and you step on a crowded elevator, okay, I expect you to feel anxiety. But if you're just chilling, having a podcast like we're doing right now, or you're sitting back here like, these guys are right here, and there's no presence of a fear, and you're just all of a sudden overwhelmed by anxiety, which 65 of Americans say they are, that is, you don't have a mental illness or a mood disorder. You have a nutrient deficiency. And that's, that's, that's how the body expresses itself. So, like, modern medicine wants to come in with chemicals, with synthetics, with Pharmaceuticals, you know, I sit on Bobby Kennedy's committee, so Maha, it's called Maha actually. And, and it's really just trying to address the amount of poisons and pesticides and herbicides and just chemicals and that is in the everyday diets of, of Americans, like slowly micropoisoning ourselves to death. These big companies like Chem China, which make chemicals like Paraquat, which is an insecticide, which by the way is banned in China. So imagine you're a Chinese chemical manufacturing company and your, your country doesn't allow you to sell this chemical.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Because they know how bad it is.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right.

[Gary Brecka]

So guess what they do? They export it to the U.S. right. And we, we, we buy billions and billions of metric tons of this, we spray it on our crops and then they lobby our con congressmen to give them indemnity from harm caused to our citizens for things that are outlawed in their own country. It's, it's mind numbing how, how far we've gone down the road of just allowing poisons and toxins into our food supply. And we're walking around, we're the sickest, fattest, you know, disease ordination in the country with the highest rates of childhood cancer. Nobody's just talking about basic physical education in the public school system, you know.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Right, right.

[Gary Brecka]

Like most, a lot of these public schools like remove physical education and replaced it with DEI programs. Right. So they would become more diverse and more, more sensitive to other people's feelings. But you can't put a 9 year old boy in a chair for 7 hours and have him stare at him.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You gotta rip around. Yeah, let them go break something.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, you gotta break. So they gotta hit each other with sticks. They gotta run around the sunlight.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Dude, I feel like there's any intention by the healthcare system to keep us sick.

[Gary Brecka]

Well, you know, I feel like ironically, the Food and Drug Administration is called the Food and Drug Administration because the food leads to the drug drugs and very often if we just cleaned up the food supply. When you think that the United states is ranked 66th in the world in life expectancy. So I used to be a mortality researcher. So we used to take 10 years of medical records and 10 years of demographic data and we would predict how many more months you had left on earth for big life insurance policies. Like 25 million, 50 million dollar life insurance policies policies or big annuities. And if you, if you took all of that research and you boiled it down to its simplest form, it would be that the reason why most Americans are not living healthier, happier Longer, more fulfilling lives are because of what we called modifiable risk factors like diet and lifestyle changes that you could make tomorrow that would dramatically extend your life. So I do feel, feel like, you know, when these, when 74 of our nutritional research is funded by big food, you get a food pyramid that says Lucky charms is more nutritious than grass fed steak. Right?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

That's how you get this.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's crazy, that pyramid, because I remember.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

That bastard talked about it in health class.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Having like your bases, your carbs and the sugars and all the things. And it's, it's like sitting there being like, I get this is it. This is what they're telling me. And now I'm sitting here at 34 years old and everyone's like, yeah, proven that's incorrect. Proven it should actually just be flipped upside down. Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

We've gotten so much wrong about basic human physiology. Dude. Our liver makes cholesterol. 85 of the cholesterol in your blood is made by your liver.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

But the conspiracy theorist says, was it accidental or was it right?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

It's like, why did we get it wrong?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right.

[Gary Brecka]

Well, how do you get, how do.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You get it wrong? And how did America be the one to get it wrong?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You have all these other countries, all these things happen. I go to, my wife is from Canada. I go to Canada, I grab a ketchup bottle, a Heinz ketchup bottle. The ingredients list is a third the size of it. As in America.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

How did this get lost in translation?

[Gary Brecka]

Well, if you think about how the whole system is structured, I mean, first of all, if you're a pharmaceutical company, you make chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals that go into hundreds of millions of human beings. You have no fiduciary responsibility to the those people. So I make a chemical that's going to be injected into your bloodstream. I have no fiduciary to you. Who's my fiduciary to? My investor. Right. I can actually go to prison if I do not make a return for my investor. If I don't do what's in the best interest of my investor. Well, my investor also doesn't have a fiduciary duty to you. So my duty is not to make the cleanest, healthiest products. My duty is to make the biggest profit. If I don't create the biggest profit it, I can actually face criminal prosecution. I will likely not. And you can look at the history of, of all of these big settlements. I will likely not face criminal prosecution for harming you or Your family or for millions of people. But I can go to jail if I don't get a return on investment for my investor. And then you stack that on top of the fact that we have slowly, over time, we have done what I call. We have socialized the expense and privatize the profit. So what I mean by that is, if you are a food manufacturer or chemical company or pharmaceutical company, largely your profit comes from the taxpayer, because who pays for your product, Medicaid or Medicare? Who funds Medicaid or Medicare? The taxpayer. Okay, so the taxpayer that, all of us in this bus right now, we're paying taxes into the system. The system is compensating private company to their balance sheet for making chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals. And so the public provides the payment and private industry collects the profit. And so once you design a system like that and then you allow them to lobby to the point where they're indemnified from known harm. There is no other industry there where you can manufacture a product that knowingly causes harm and continue to manufacture it without any, any, any risk of or, or obligation. I mean, if you're, if you're general motor, I mean, how many cars have you heard recalled in, in your lifetime? You know, it's like, well, Mitsubishi, you know, the brakes freeze. Okay, well, they recall all those cars and they fix that, right? You know, every time the Tesla catches fire, they recall those Teslas, they, they fix that battery problem. If you're, if you're, if you make synthetics and chemicals and pharmaceuticals, you can harm as many people as you want. You're indemnified from that harm. So the incentive is not there to help people. The incentive is there to drive profits. And it's, you know, it's, it's sad. If we, if you think that some sub Saharan, South African nations that do not have clean water and sanitation are living longer than the average American, you realize how upside down the system is, right? You know, and, and everyone listening to the show has either has been or has a loved one or someone they know that has gone into that system and they become a statistic of that system. Because the third leading cause of death in the United States is medical error. So imagine if you applied that to any other industry, right? Imagine if you were like, I don't know, you sold home security systems, but you were the third leading cause of home invasion. Like, you'd be out of business pretty fast. But. Yeah, but in the healthcare system, they're like, great, you know. Yeah, just keep it pushing. Yeah, keep pushing. That's why, I'm sorry, on board with Bobby Kennedy's agenda.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, talk to me about that a little bit. Obviously, the administration only took over January 20th, so you, there's still a lot of unpacking that you guys have to do. But when you sit in this chair right now in the middle of August, what is like maybe the number one thing you've identified that you have to get out of the American diet?

[Gary Brecka]

Well, you know this. So what's really interesting about the Make America Healthy Again, the Baja movement, if you will, which is an apolitical movement, is, you know, you took people from two polar opposite ends of the spectrum. Like if you got Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump. Trump, outside of making kids and Americans healthy, they probably wouldn't agree on a single thing, you know, like big oil, food, agriculture, green energy. But in the area where we're in service to our children and to. In service to the health of Americans, there's, there's broad agreement and all, All Bobby is trying to do and is say we should hold pharmaceutical companies to the same standard that we hold. Hold every other product or service that is going to go into somebody's. Somebody's body. We should do the same level of rigorous testing. We're not anti vax. We are just pro research to make sure that they're safe and effective. When the vaccine started, for example, they said, oh, it prevents the infection. Great. You get vaccinated, you don't get covet. And a few months later we're like, wow, you do actually get coveted. And they're like, well, it prevents the spread. And then, then a few months later we're like, huh, didn't, didn't really prevent the spread. And then they were like, well, it reduces the risk of severe complications.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Then like this other one, get a booster.

[Gary Brecka]

It actually doesn't reduce the risk of severe complications. Well, what does it do? Well, it makes a hell of a profit. That's what it does. And, and so, you know, we allowed the experimentation on hundreds of millions of people. The worst thing we ever did to humanity, sanity during COVID And this is probably going to cut your audience right in half. But was residential quarantining masking and social distancing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I don't think he cut anybody in half just now.

[Gary Brecka]

No, they're already gone.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No, no. Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Okay.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I think most of our boys are out there. Like, go on.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

They're.

[Gary Brecka]

They're still, they're still hanging with us.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What's going on? Yeah, yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

All right. Usually I cut the audience right in half. As soon as I start talking about vaccines. Vaccines, politics and religion. But, but those are, those are the three no fly zones. But in any case, what, what, what Bobby's been able to do, what this MAHA agenda has been able to do in the very short period of time they've been off in office, you know, they've been petroleum based food dyes. So think about this just like your point in going to Canada, right, where you have this, you had a red skittle and a red skittle and they both look red and they both taste exactly the same way. One's, one's actually colored with beet juice and one is colored with a petroleum based food diet. What's a petroleum based food dye? It's a fuel source that we use for buses like this. Your body doesn't have enzymes to break that down, causes inflammation, the immune system tries to attack it. So why do we do that? Well, because we're allowed to manufacture things cheaper. The 51,000 chemicals that we use in the agricultural system in this country that chemical companies are seeking broad immunity for, that they actually can't sell in their own mother countries, you know, and so Bobby Kennedy is trying to put a stop to that. He's going to say, hey bear, you're a German company, you make Roundup glyphosate. You want to spray that on our food here, which you're not allowed to spray on your food at home, and you want us to indemnify you from harm caused to our citizens and you want the taxpayer to foot this bill. We're not going to do it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, it seems like that.

[Gary Brecka]

And so petroleum based food dyes got out of this system. Some of the other big wins were the SNAP food program, you know, food stamp program. They were able to get high sugary sodas and candies. You can still buy high sugary sodas if you want, still buy candy, still buy a vape, still buy cigarettes, still buy alcohol. You just can't do it with the taxpayers money. Right? So now 26 states, don't quote me on that, it's around 26 states have signed on to say, yeah, we're, we're going to take that $10 billion and we're going to redirect it to these underserved communities and we're going to actually force them to buy whole foods foods. Those are ways you make massive sweeping change, right? You know, and getting physical education back in the school system, I mean, you, you'll actually see the rates of all of these. I don't even like this term. But mental, mental disorders or mood disorders, add, adhd, poor attention span, lack of focus and concentration. Kids that can't complete their assignments follow directions that they're hammering with Adderall. All you're going to see those rates eviscerate when we just do simple things like bringing physical education back into the school system, getting all the processed out of their diets and putting just whole foods into their diets.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

And getting back to the basics. So that's what I think that part of the movement's all about.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. That presidential test. When you're in elementary and middle school. Ma'.

[Gary Brecka]

Am. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Figured out, boys and men, you go down, you do the stretch thing first. You do the sit ups, the push ups.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Just in a minute.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Like my boy will, he got 36. I gotta get myself at least 37.

[Gary Brecka]

We like years ago when I, when.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I. Yeah, there's that box right there.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

There it is, the stretching.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

The stretch.

[Gary Brecka]

The stretch box.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, the stretch box.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

That's awesome.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Is that crazy?

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, that's the fifth grade presidential test. Yeah. Yeah. He looks like he's struggling.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Dude, that's a big fifth grade.

[Gary Brecka]

That is a big ass fifth grader.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You're expected to get the most push ups. And then you hear one of your boys at like 68 in the push up contest, you're like, ain't no way.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Heart rate, anxiety, 32nd dead hang. You know, run a mile in less than nine minutes, do 10 unbroken push ups and 20 unbroken sit ups. I mean, that seems to be like the very basics. And yet, you know, 77%. This is a department of respect. Yeah. Department of defense statistic. 77% of our military age men and women. These are, these are men and women that are, that qualify for military service due to their age. 77% of them cannot enter the military due to just poor health. If you don't think that is a national security disaster, that three quarters of our nation's eligible military men and women do not qualify for military service because of poor health. Like, we got to turn this around. You know, it's crazy. Like years ago,2016, I. I owned a CrossFit gym for a while called Real Fitness in Naples. And one of the things we did for community outreach was we would have, we would let these kids come from the grade school and that we would put them through free wads and we had like almost like after school care for 90 minutes. And the parents loved it. They shuttle them over to our, our gym and, and so we would try to Break them into groups so they wouldn't, you know, the kids that were not as physically active wouldn't be embarrassed by the kids that were killing it. And we had like this basic, basic, basic test. We had a foot high box jump, one 12 inches high. And all the kids had to do was sit down on the box jump and then just stand up, just stand up. And you wouldn't believe the number of the, like the first day my, my, my partner TJ and I were like, what the fuck is going on? Like they were falling off, they were rolling to the side, they were putting their hands down. I'm like, no, no, no, just sit down and stand up. They couldn't stand up from a foot high box jump. Then we would hold them up on the, on, on the pull up bars and we were like, okay, just hang here for 30 seconds. And you'd, you'd let them go and they fall and you're like, no, no, hold on, like, don't let go. The point is to not let go. And they would just, as soon as you let go of their waist, they'd fall to the floor. And I just remember how, how baffled I was that these kids like couldn't stand up from a box jump and couldn't hang for 30 seconds. And then of course you had, some kids were just swinging around on there all day long, right? But the vast majority of them that just zero coordination, no sense of like their body awareness. And I mean it was, I just remember how shocked I was by that. Like, man, we're in a bad state of affairs.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Talking about some things to change on like the macro level for like schools and kids and youth and stuff like that. We were talking a little bit before this pod started. What about like, how do you get it to where the average American can access the things like we get to access. So you're in an industry to where the medicine can be coined as medicine 3.0 yourself. You got Peter Atia, Dr. Huberman. Where people who take it all very seriously and they have the means to do it, can work with a group to where you're paying out of pocket, your insurance doesn't cover it, to get all of these blood panels to work. Where if you go and consume Gary Brech or any of these people I'm mentioning, they talk about like all these blood panels and, and, and, and blood work that you can get. So that way you can identify things from a cellular level, right? You shouldn't be taking all of these vitamins and supplements because your body might not need It.

[Gary Brecka]

Right.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Going through a sleep study, you're getting access to a DEXA scan at, at what point does the shift happen to where the average person will be able to access these things versus going in and getting a, a 20 minute checkup from a doctor and then he prescribes you an orange bottle. Bottle and then send you on your way.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. Or you don't have to sit there and have an injury and it's just an acute injury and they just focus on that injury, not everything else going on. Going on with the body.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. I mean when, when powerful enough people at the highest end of government wake up and realize it is less expensive to prevent the disease than it is to treat it. Right now we spend 80% of our 5 trillion dollar budget on preventable chronic disease. You can't overlook that. I'm going to say that again. We spend 80% of our budget, $5 trillion a year on preventable chronic disease. Morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, chronic issues like autoimmune, which I think is another category that is completely misunderstood. You know, genetically inherited disease, which is another completely nonsensical thing that we've been sold by the medical community is that we inherit disease from our offspring. Because my uncle had high blood pressure, I have it. So I have to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. So as we are slowly waking up to the fact that it will cost us less money to prevent those chronic diseases than it does to treat them, we start throwing that money at the deficit and it becomes very unpopular for politicians to be on the other side of that equation. That's when the real change is going to occur. But let's just say, let's just walk through some things that you could do for nothing. Right. Because I get a lot of flack when we talk about Dana White and some of the other, other folks that I've worked with because he has a red light bed, he has a PEMF mat, he has a what's called E. Watt machine.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. He's a one exercise.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Just to clarify for the audience too, and talking about medicine 3.0 and he keeps using the word preventative disease. It's like you guys working on preventative, working with like in preventative medicine versus when you go to the doctor where it's more reactive medicine.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it's very true. It says more of what God gave us, less of what man makes us. Us. You know, I believe a lot more in what God gave us than what man makes us. I don't believe that when somebody has a mental illness or an autoimmune disease or chronic condition that they are missing things like beta blockers and Adderall, right? Those are not what we have deficiencies in. We have deficiencies in nutrients that are causing these conditions to exist. So let's say that you want to do Dana White's protocol $129,000 light bed, a $5,000PMF mat, and a. A $5,500 E. Watt exercise with oxygen machine. You can expose your skin to sunlight right, in the. Especially in the first hour of the day. And. And people are like, yeah, I think that's a little overblown. Sounds like bullshit and witchcraft. Absolutely not. Like, we are so out of touch with the circadian cycle of the Earth. If you watch Huberman's podcast, he goes deep into the science of just morning sunlight. So we've been taught to fear the sun, right? I mean, if. If you actually. And I've done this on. On lectures before. If you actually took a chart of the parabolic rise in sunscreen, right? Since the 1950s, there's been this absolute parabolic spike in sunscreen. I mean, sun, sun, skin cancer. If you took the parabolic rise in skin cancer, it would be superimposable with the parabolic use of sunscreen. So how is it that we're getting less sun, sun using more sunscreen, and we're getting more skin cancer?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Right?

[Gary Brecka]

Because the polar opposite is happening now. You know, 23 brands of sunscreen have been pulled from the market since 2018 for directly or indirectly causing skin cancer. And we've been taught to fear the sun. So, number one, stop fearing the sun. And number two, learn to do things like just basic breath work. Just getting back to really obnoxiously deep breathing. Breathing. Why? Because as we age, our auxiliary muscles of respiration start to atrophy, and we begin to progressively breathe more shallow. As you breathe more shallow, you become more hypoxic, more oxygen deprived. As you become more oxygen deprived, your cells cannot defend themselves. So learn to do breath work. I do a style of breathwork called WIM hof. You can get tutorials all online for free. Free. Learning how to do that style. Yeah, that's like the box breathing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Videos.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, I got them on my site.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Lay it next to you. And you just. He takes you through it.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. And. And if you can every day, take your shoes off, touch the surface of the earth. The earth has a low gauss current. It is a magnetic current. It's. Again, I get a lot of flack for this, too. It. Earthing and grounding is a very real thing. If you had zero money and you just added morning sunlight, breathwork, and grounding to your routine, you would hit the red light bed, the PEMF mat, and the oxygen, right? So if you've got $1 million lying around or $100,000 lying around, go buy a red light bed. But if you don't, like most people, don't expose your skin to sunlight.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

If it's so simplistic to just get 10 minutes of sunlight in the morning, why, what is the necessity for even spending $125,000 on a red light bed?

[Gary Brecka]

Purely community.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

And is it still the same on a cloudy day? Or if you're up at, like, and you're working out early in the morning, it's still a little dark outside, you're just like, yeah, if you're.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

If you're getting after it and it's winter time.

[Gary Brecka]

So it's. It's purely convenience, right? I mean, I tell my wife all the time, I don't have a. I don't have a car problem. I don't have a watch problem. I have a biohacking problem. So my whole. Our whole house is just a bunch of biohacking stuff. Hyperbaric chambers and perfect, perfectly tested to.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Bring a machine in. She's like, hang on a second. Where the hell you going to put that over there? What are we doing over there?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

We.

[Gary Brecka]

We did have a little bit of. We had some tension over the. The. The third hyperbaric.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Grab that microphone anytime you want to butt it. If he says some lies, you're more than welcome to jump on board. Oh, she's grabbing it.

[Gary Brecka]

What does he got? Oh, he likes to sneak things in when I'm out of town. Smart.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Hey, smarty, move, not small.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Things are talking.

[Gary Brecka]

We're talking relationship. Relationship advice as well. The size of this bus, maybe half of the size of this bus into my master bedroom. And then I didn't say a word, and I pretended like it had always been there.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Oh, gaslight.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

What is this?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What are you talking about?

[Gary Brecka]

It's been there. That is exactly what I said. She comes back, she went skiing for five days in Switzerland. I was like, you know, you want to go skiing in Switzerland? This is the kind of that happens. So I. I had these guys walking.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Your whole room is a hyperbaric chamber.

[Gary Brecka]

Literally working 24 hours a day around the clock for, like, five straight days. They ripped the wall out, they moved the hyperbaric in, they put the wall back, they put The. The wallpaper back over the wall, and she walks into the master bedroom.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You, bro.

[Gary Brecka]

Dude, I thought it was pretty badass together.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We all live together. We'd be fired up thinking about marriage dynamic and everything else. I'm like, oh, yeah, I can see more. She might have went to 10 person throw out the wall.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah. Peaks and troughs. That was a. That was a tr.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Let it go.

[Gary Brecka]

Because he apologized that he did take it too far. And yeah, I looked at it and.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I was like, accountability is important.

[Gary Brecka]

This is a lot bigger than I thought it was.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Was.

[Gary Brecka]

Dude, it looked like a submarine. And she comes around the corner and she goes, yeah, that's true. Then he added, can we say on this podcast, okay. Because she goes, what the is that? And I go, the is what? And she's like, the is that. I'm like, babe, that has been here for months. And, like, literally, the drywaller, you could see where he had done the tape. And I was like, it was still wet. And I'm like, it. You got to paint over it. She's gonna be here in five hours. They painted over it. And the. You know, the moisture still came through. So you see all the lines.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Funny.

[Gary Brecka]

And so, by the way, he didn't tell you about the second hyperbaric chamber, which is now in our gym, which used to have gym equipment, and now it's just another second hyperbaric. It's a.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's. You got to do it twice.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it's about this big. And it's got to come over. It's got rowers and weights in it. You can pick your hyperbaric chamber. Yeah, we had a third one, too.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, a lot of people have guest rooms. You guys have multiple hyperbaric chambers you'll be sleeping in.

[Gary Brecka]

And then we got, like, hydrogen nanogas, hydrogen nanotubs. We got red light beds. We got multiple cold plunges.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

One of my original questions is, what is too much? When is it enough?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You know, have you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Have you seen the guy that has, like, Brian Johnson. Yeah. $2 million in his body every single year. He's like, essentially, he's trying to live until. Till. Till forever. Until Jesus comes back. He's trying to get it all. He's trying to get it all done. Like, what is too much? Because there's got to be, like, a level of, I want to also live my life. Life.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And from a social standpoint, like, if you get to a point where I can't even go out to eat because the seed oils, all these different things that could possibly be in it. It's just. It can be crazy.

[Gary Brecka]

And I think, and I'm a big fan of Brian Johnson. I think he's showing us what's possible, not what's probable. I mean, it's not probable for just about anyone, but you know, to his credit, look, he's spending his own money and he's. And he's getting data on his body and he's just sharing it with the world, and he gets a lot of flack for it. And I'm like, dude, leave the guy alone. He sold his company for a couple hundred million bucks, and he's spending the money on trying to see how long he can live. And he's given you a window into it. You don't have to do what he's doing, but he's showing you what's possible, not what's probable. But the majority of us would be better served to just get back to the basics, you know, like I said, sunlight, grounding, breath, work, whole food, diet, sleep, you know, basic supplementation. Everyone, the majority of people listening to this right now are probably supplementing for the sake of supplementing. They're not supplementing for deficiency. And that's where most people go wrong. You know, like, if you ask me about CoQ10, Resveratrol, NAD, Ashwagandha, St. John's Wort, I mean, all these things are great. The question is, does your body need it? And there is one test called a methylation test. It's a. It's a genetic test. It doesn't look at all of your genes. It just looks at the Genesis. The. The nine or 12 genes that convert nutrients in the human body, that give you the raw material that you need to power the body. It's a test you do once in your lifetime. You definitely do not have to do this test with me. Hundreds of companies offer methylation tests. They're not expensive. Basically, you take a cheek swab, you send it to a lab, the results come back, and it says, here's what your body can process and here's what I can't. And it will give you the basic supplements that you need. And by basic, I mean they're usually complex of B vitamins, something called methylfol, 8, basic amino acids that you could get off the shelf, and vitamin D3 with K2 if you actually supplement for deficiency first. Right? Like back to the tree example, where the soil's deficient in nitrogen. If you don't add nitrogen to the soil, nothing else matters. And you can cover even if you didn't want to do those tests. You could cover the basics with a methylated multivitamin, 5000ius of vitamin D3 with K2, and about 800 micrograms of methyl folate. Those three things would cover 85 to 90% of the basics of what the majority of human beings are missing. If you give those nutrients to your body now, it can start to manufacture and convert things inside of your body that lead to your mood, that lead to your emotional state, that return your gut motility to normal. So take, for example, the whole category of, let's say mental illness, like depression, anxiety, ADD, ADHD. If you just took those three things, probably 80% of your listeners have suffered from someone or all of those things at some point in their life. Right? And you're told that you have mental illness or you have a mood disorder. But if you start backing this up. Right. Okay, well, how do we define depression in this country? Well, we define depression as an inadequate, adequate supply of serotonin. So in other words, if you're low on serotonin, you're by definition depressed. So wouldn't you think that if the definition of depression is low serotonin, that the fix would be to raise serotonin? That's not what we do. Right. We take people that are low on serotonin, we put them on something called an ssri, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. What does that do? Well, it doesn't raise your serotonin, but so by its own definition, it doesn't end depression, which is why most people take these things for 12, 14, 16, 18 years. If we actually took a further step back and said, well, how do we make serotonin if I'm low on this thing, how do I get more of it? Well, we make serotonin in the gut. 90% of the serotonin in your body is right here. If you don't have it here, you can't have it here. So depression rarely begins in the outside environment. It almost always begins in the gut. And so how do we, I. How do I make serotonin in the gut? Well, you take an amino acid called tryptophan, the one that makes you sleepy for after Thanksgiving dinner. You methylate that into the neurotransmitter serotonin, and then it goes up to your brain and it creates mood and emotion. So could I be depressed because I'm low in serotonin, because I don't have the right complex of B vitamins and the. And enough supply of tryptophan yes, those are simple nutrient deficiencies that eventually wind up as important mental disease. Right. Then you'll never convince me that 65% of Americans suffer from a clinical level of depression. Like, it's just not. We don't have that big of a depressed society. We have a nutrient depleted society that is expressing itself as depression. There's so many people running around with anxiety or adhd and they think they have, they think that they're deficient in Adderall or Vyvanse or Ritalin. They're not deficient in those. They're deficient in the complex of B vitamins and the methylfolates and the amino acids that give them the material to make the neurotransmitters that build mood and emotion. And so like my message for humanity is you can take a basic level of supplementation, focus on sleep, water hydration, yes, you can add hydrogen, things like that. But before you go and, and, and step up to the big leagues of buying all this fancy equipment and everything. If you just covered those basics, man, your life would take an entirely different trajectory. Yeah, you know, I, I, I do this thing sometimes when I speak from a stage where I say I'll take any ailment that you or a loved one suffers from can be an autoimmune disease, it can be a mental illness, it can be a mood disorder, any ailment. And I will tell you what raw material is missing from your body that is causing that condition to exist. Because so many of us have just bought into the fact that because my parents or my grandparents or my aunts or uncles have it, I have it now I need to be on a lifetime of medication or I just suffer from generalized anxiety. For what reason? I don't know. I just have generalized anxiety. I'm just, I have, I have generalized depression, I have ADD or I have adhd. My belief is that you don't have any of those things. You have a nutrient deficiency. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. 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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Was interested in real.

[Gary Brecka]

I do. I think that. Yeah, dude, I went to. I love that. It's a good question.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I just love how you just popped it up there.

[Gary Brecka]

Dude, that's, it's, it's actually a great question.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Is absolutely real, dude.

[Gary Brecka]

Is so real. I mean I learned to believe in it when I lived in Chicago for six years in grad school. I went to grad school in Chicago. That's where I got my second degree in biology. Human biology degree.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Nice.

[Gary Brecka]

Dude. You don't see the sun for seven months. And I lived in the South Loop of Chicago and I'm telling you, you can feel it in the city. Like, like everybody's just pissed off, irritated. They want to fight, drink, sleep or eat pizza, right? It's like. And, and then you get that first spring day and sorry if you live in Chicago, but. And you get that first spring day where like all the windows pop open and the sun's shining to people flood the streets.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Colored glasses like come back on. Dude, you all over the streets.

[Gary Brecka]

It's amazing. That's why I live in Florida.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I grew up in Arizona. Yeah, you guys call yourself the Sunshine State. Arizona actually has the most sunshine of all the states.

[Gary Brecka]

I actually heard it was Colorado. Did we do a fact check on that?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

We can fact check that.

[Gary Brecka]

Absolutely.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Because yeah, I would love to. I would love nothing more than to.

[Gary Brecka]

Get this Dude, I got. I don't think. I don't think that Arizona. What has more sunshine? Colorado, the state of Colorado or the state of Arizona. Arizona is often considered the sunny state in the U.S. ah, the sunniest city in the world.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Okay.

[Gary Brecka]

Damn.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Shout out to Arizona.

[Gary Brecka]

Damn. Well, you know what's weird is Colorado has more sunshine than. Than Miami. And I didn't realize that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That is wild. Yeah. So I grew up in Arizona wins. And I. I commit to the University of Michigan.

[Gary Brecka]

Okay.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's awesome. I'm so glad the transfer portal was not around then, because the first winter I was borderline suicide. Wash, dude, it was so miserable to Michigan. Literally walking around like, I have no idea why. I feel so depressed. I'm sad bad. Why? Is it like, homesickness? Not really. Like you're trying to identify all these things, but, like, the middle of my first winter at Michigan, I was like, why the hell.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Am I dealing with this?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So, yeah, it's real.

[Gary Brecka]

Sunlight's medicine.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

How do you combat seasonal depression?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Red light.

[Gary Brecka]

So, yeah, red light. And, and getting outside. So what happens when there's not a lot of sunlight outside? People actually stay indoors more often.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Now you're also going back to the cloudy question. Do you still get.

[Gary Brecka]

No. The blue light comes right through the. The blue light that actually impacts what's called cortisol, your waking hormone morning, and actually suppresses melatonin, helps raise cortisol. That blue light will come right through the. Right through the clouds. Now, if it's really overcast and like heavy rainy day or you got a snowstorm going on outside, that's. That's something different. But on an overcast, cloudy day. Yeah, that sunlight getting into your eyes is still the best things that you can do for yourself. And I would. I would actually take regular trips to sunshine states. I mean, the, The. If you look at life expectancy around the world, the longest life expectancies on Earth are centered right around the equator. For every 20 degrees, is it longitude? Yes. Is our latitude. For every 20 degrees latitude you get away from the equator, there's a precipitous drop in life expectancy until you get to the poles, where you have the shortest life expectancy on Earth. True. Eskimo, when I was born in 1970, had a life expectancy of 56 years. Right. They never saw the sun. And. And when they did, they were so layered up, they. They were just critically deficient in vitamin D3. And so a lot of what you can do is you can combat seasonal affective disorder by taking vitamin D3, 5000ius of vitamin D3 a day with a little bit of K2. And most manufacturers put those two together. The best vitamin manufacturers will combine K2 and vitamin D3, and that's a huge combative force for seasonal affective disorder. But I. I learned to believe it. Like I said, I went to grad school for six years in Chicago. Dude, it was. It was really depressing, you know, and then when you don't see the sun and you're not going outside, you're eating like you're drinking a lot, and then.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Cocktail for sadness.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it's a great cocktail. It's good cocktail for like two hours. And then the sadness is like twice the intensity.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We need to have the. The supplements that you talk about, vitamin D and K. And then we need to get some rest.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Red light in here in this shop.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, for the boys. Because we, you know, all the boys.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, especially. Yeah, dude.

[Gary Brecka]

If I send you guys a red light bed, will you use it?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Do what?

[Gary Brecka]

If I send you guys a red light bed, will you use 1,000% into. Oh, whoa, hold on now we're talking about free. I'll be free.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Balling around this whole shop using. Using the red light therapy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

My wife and I, we are getting a new house at the end of this year and looking for a spot to maybe get a red light bed, so.

[Gary Brecka]

All right.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Something to think about.

[Gary Brecka]

I'm. I'm shipping you guys a red light bed.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

All right, we'll take three.

[Gary Brecka]

Best one in the world.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's all good. So one for the shop, two for the house.

[Gary Brecka]

There's a lot of free in here. There's a gym out there. They didn't pay for couch coming in the door. When I was like, you guys got couches today from.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I guess so.

[Gary Brecka]

Yes, I saw that. I was like, on up.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

How fired up were you when you saw that? Sore neck. Next gym.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, dude, that thing is. That is badass, dude. Yeah, that is top of the line, dude. That's not inexpensive equipment either. That's. No. That is a legit set of.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

They're not even partners of ours, really. They are now, I guess. Yeah. There's essentially no deliverables. They're not paying us.

[Gary Brecka]

Really.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

They brought that in and they're like, yeah, you guys go crazy good for size and everything.

[Gary Brecka]

It is it. My wife said it's Florida State colors. Yeah, she's a Florida state fan. Year.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Tough year last year. It's been a couple of tough years.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it's been hard for her to be a fan for a while.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Supposed to make the playoffs that one year. And then Georgia happened. It's not. This is not that type of podcast.

[Gary Brecka]

Not that type of podcast. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Gut health.

[Gary Brecka]

Yes.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Is it the most important thing to take care of and how do you repair gut health?

[Gary Brecka]

Great question. So thank you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's always nice to hear that.

[Gary Brecka]

So. So if you think about what the gut is, first of all. So first of all, our gut is actually outside of our body. It's hard to, to, to remember that. But, you know, the inside of your intestinal tract is continuous with the outside of your cheek, right? Just folds in. So this tube, which is 36ft long, that runs through our body from our, you know, mouth to the rectum, this 36 foot long tube has a single cell layer. Layer. One cell layer on the inside that protects our outside environment from our inside environment. That single cell layer is one of the most important cell layers in all of human physiology. Because what it does is it keeps bad things in the gut and it keeps good things in the bloodstream. When that layer gets compromised, which is called leaky gut, you have all kinds of consequences. So if we think about what are, what are some of the big things that go on in the gut? Well, first of all, remember that we don't eat to feed ourselves. Ourselves, right? Nothing that you eat. No, no piece of chicken, no hamburger, no slice of bread is in the format that you can use as energy. The only reason why we eat is to feed our gut bacteria. Our gut bacteria eat to feed us. So there's an intermediary between the food you eat and the nutrition your body gets. And that intermediary is your gut bacteria. So we eat for one reason only, to feed our gut bacteria, bacteria. And they eat for one reason only, to feed us. And so that intermediary is very important. So you have bacteria in there, and, and then you have this single cell layer. And when that cell layer gets disrupted, contents from inside your gut start to leak into the bloodstream. This causes inflammation. It's the genesis of a lot of autoimmune disease. If you think about what else goes on in the gut, the majority of our neurotransmitters are made in the gut. And what are neurotransmitters? Well, neurotransmitters form the basis of every movement, mood, and every emotion that you can, you can feel. Dopamine, for example, is the main driver of behavior. If I was able to magically stick a syringe in your arm and just suck the Dopamine out of your body, you would immediately engage in dopamine seeking behavior. What does that mean? That means that you would be seeking something like drugs, alcohol, nicotine, promiscuity, workaholic work, alaholic. You would do something to chase that dopamine deficiency. Urgency. We called this addiction. The absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction. There isn't an addict in the world. If you've ever been an addict or known a true addict that woke up one morning and said, I want to get really banged up. They woke up one morning and said, I want to feel normal. And it was the search for normalcy that developed their addiction. They smoked a cigarette, they took a hit from a joint, they drank alcohol, they engaged in some kind of crazy activity like jumping off a cliff in a squirrel suit. And they're like, whoa. I mean, that rush of dopamine made them feel normal. So when you talk about all the things that the gut regulates, it not only converts our food into compounds the body can use. It not only manufactures neurotransmitters that make us feel happy, make us feel sad. If. If your gut is off, you can't feel elation, passion, joy, arousal, libido, because you can't manufacture those emotions.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So.

[Gary Brecka]

So the gut is incredibly important. 70% of our immune system is sitting right outside of our gut. And why? Because that's where all the action is. And so what are some great things that you can do for your gut? Well, there are peptides, probably my favorite peptide in the world, which is called BPC157 Golf Club.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

BPC.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it is. I have.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Incredible.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I was a founder's client.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, we were.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, will put me on bpc. It used to be legal in the NFL.

[Gary Brecka]

Fell and I can't believe it's not legal.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Absolutely crazy. But he put me on and I would have like, just general soreness. Stick it my, you know, my leg or my butt. Fine.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I had an ankle. If my ankle would be swollen up, I feel like I wouldn't be able to play. Put it there acutely. Three days later, I'm able to play a game.

[Gary Brecka]

It's incredible.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It isn't.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Heard about it through Greenfield being on Rogan back in like 2015.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

When he's talking about red light, putting stem cell in his. His boy downstairs, you know, the hacks, like boost your testosterone and he'd do shots. Shockwave therapy on it.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

He talks about BPC 157.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

He talks about not being illegal yet. And I was like, well, let me see.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it's not, it's not illegal. There's, there's a company called Peptual. They make these. You go online because I think you also have to be concerned about where you're sourcing, you know, peptides in general. The majority of these peptides come from China and there's a lot of fillers, binders, a lot of them have metals in them. I'd be cautious about just going online and searching BPC157 then just buying it. But if you can get it from a compound pharmacy, which compound pharmacies make it in America, then it's regulated. But BPC157 is, I mean it's arguably my favorite peptide. You can stack that with something called TB500 which, these are just healing and wound repair peptides. This will actually help to seal that single cell layer of the gut because not only does it improve soft tissue injuries like you're talking about, like ligaments, knees, hips, shoulders, rotator cuffs, low backs, but it's, it's actually a gastric peptide. It's a gastric pentadecapeptide and it's synthesized from gastric juice. So it really helps calm inflammat in the gut and helps heal and seal the gut. The majority, if not all of my private clients I have on BBC 157. It's tolerated very well orally, you can take it orally, you can take it by injection, you can site injection like you're talking about. Peptool makes these, these pads that you soak with BPC127 and you, you put them on the skin and it will release the BPC157 over a 12 to 14 hour period. So if you have some kind of nagging repetitive injury like a rotator cuff or you know, lateral ankle or medial knee or low back, everybody usually has low back issues. It's a, it's incredible. So, so we're talking about the gut. I think BPC157 also, you know, adding things to your, your diet like fermented vegetables. Just take a serving of fermented vegetable and throw them on the plate with at least one of your meals. Fermented vegetables are like sauerkraut sprouts, kimchi's, even pickled any. There's BPC 157. Yeah. Stronger tissue, reduced inflammation, quicker healing, improved brain function. I mean that, the, the now human clinical studies that are being done on BPC157 because it was largely done on, on, on animals now, some large scale human trials. The data that's coming out of these trials for neural inflammation, for cognitive function, for connective tissue injuries is, is amazing because before we just fully get off BBC 157, what it does is it harnesses the, the, the, the, the power of your body to heal itself. So let's say you were walking down the street and you stepped off a curve and you twisted your right ankle, right? So how does the body know to heal this right ankle and leave the left ankle alone? It's because when you tear that tissue, you break open these little cells called fibroblasts and they start telling the bloodstream, hey, I'm hurt, I'm hurt, starts sending a signal, an inflammatory signal. Well, a platelet that's cruising by in your bloodstream, when it hears that signal, it bursts and it drops off. Growth factors. So you're healing because platelets are bringing growth factors to the site of injury. What BPC157 does is it amplifies that signal. So if you had 10 platelets cruising by and two jumped out of the bloodstream, you take BPC 157, 7, 10 plates, platelets are cruising by and nine will jump out of the bloodstream. So all you're doing is concentrating the healing power of the human body. That's. I'm a huge, huge fan of peptides. I think you're going to see Bobby Kennedy widen the lane for peptides with the fda because they're very safe, they're very effective. They're amino acids. Our body breaks them down, eliminates the waste. And we're taking so many anti inflammatories and corticosteroids in the NFL, I mean, steroid injunctions. And spend more careers early than you can imagine. Cortisone's crazy. Once or twice, fine. But chronic cortisone injections, I mean, Joe Theisman probably, I mean, not Joe Tyson, who's the Miami quarterback. Dan Marino, you know, his career was ended early because he's. Multiple cortisone injections, right. You know, constantly into the elbow.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Now if you sprain your ankle, would you say going into the site with BPC157 if you're injecting it or if you still do it, sub Q in your gut, it would still get there.

[Gary Brecka]

If you did a sub Q in your gut, it would still get there. I would either wear a patch or I would take very high oral doses. Right. Because BBC157 is usually the doses is around 500 milligrams orally, but you can take four or five times that amount very safely with very little known side effects. Because what will happen is BPC157 will migrate to that, that site, right? It will, it is attracted to those cytokines, those histamines, the, the signal coming from the inflammation. So you can take high doses orally. It works very, very well. You can also site injection, inject it, but just like going sub Q, the bloodstream will carry it away and it will find its way back to that site, unless you're going right into the, the capsule of the joint or something, which most people are not qualified to do. So BBC 157 is tolerated very. It's one of those peptides you can take or orally. It's not like the growth hormone like.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

It, like in pill form or you just say put the syringe and squeeze in your mouth.

[Gary Brecka]

You can take it in, in capsule form. You can take it in a, in a form that, in a, in a, in a patch that actually goes into the bloodstream over a prolonged period of time, which is a method that I would prefer. You can combine it with things like NAD and something called G, G, H, K, C, U, which is a copper peptide. So you can actually get these patches. You soak them up with GHK, Cu, copper peptide, NAD and BPC 157. You wear them for 12 or 14 hours and it leaks a consistent dosage into the bloodstream. So if you had an acute injury or you were recovering from surgery, that's what I would be, that's what I would be doing. If you specifically have gut issues, I would be taking BBC157 twice a day orally, a thousand milligrams two different times during the day. The back of the bottle is going to tell you to take 500 milligrams for how long? Long until that the, the symptoms have result and then it would take it prophylactically essentially forever. And then there, you know, I got.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

A low back problem right now.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, you do?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, it's been, it's been a, been an issue since 2020.

[Gary Brecka]

So this, let's just focus on that for a second. So why do low back problems have a tendency to linger? Why do rotator cuffs have a tendency to linger? Why do you, why do a lot of these injuries have a tendency to become chronic? And I can't emphasize this enough. Is that, is that you?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, I was like, damn, it's a lot worse than I thought.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

We're like we're gonna do this pod. I'm gonna get up, and it's gonna take me a nice few steps just to get fully back up.

[Gary Brecka]

Right. All right. If I fix that for you, will we come back on the podcast and do an update?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yes.

[Gary Brecka]

Okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna put that podcast. Yeah. That the back pain probably really take off.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

So, again, the thing that we are not addressing, that is not being addressed in your injury, and I cannot emphasize this enough, is the microvascular circulation. You assume that when you take an anti. Infl. Inflammatory, you take a corticosteroid, even if you take a peptide, that it is getting to that site and that what's trapped at that site, all the inflammatory compounds, those histamines and cytokines and all of that. That stuff are getting out. And the truth is what happens is it gets trapped because you think about how small these vessels are. They're. They're microvascular. Your heart is not pumping the blood to that low back. Right. This. This activity of vasomotor is. So if you were to. And I'm going to send you one of these two. If you were to bathe in hydrogen gas. I know this sounds crazy, but if you were to bathe in hydrogen gas, if you were to start taking hydrogen tablets, and if you were to take slow Release, long duration BPC 157 and TB 500 and regularly use RED light therapy. A powerful enough bed. You can't use a bed that plugs into a 110 outlet. You have to use one that plugs into a 220. You need very powerful light in. In the span of seven to 10 weeks. It would be a permanent thing of your past, because what's developed is how.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Juiced up are you getting right now?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Holy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Seven to ten weeks.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Talking about end of. End of 25. Boys operational.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, boy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Might be making a comeback because you.

[Gary Brecka]

Only retired in 2023. Right?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

2020 is when, oh, the situation happened.

[Gary Brecka]

Okay.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

And it's bothered me for, like, in moments, episodes that. And now it just feels like more of, like, a way of life. I've been trying to help correct it. Like, there's been doing things where I've been making good progress. But you're right, it feels like there's, like, zero. So the things you got to do just to get circulation going there and. Yeah, just to feel warmed up is a process.

[Gary Brecka]

It's. It's. And that's why, you know, cold plunging would be, you know, good for you. Would probably Help take some of the pain away. But, but what, what we have to do is we have to restore that vasomotor circulation so you can actually start to heal that, that part of that, that site. You. Regular oral routes, even regular subcutaneous routes. No matter what you're administering into the body, it's still going into the bloodstream. The bloodstream is delivering it to that location. And if, if you could actually put your injury on a thermograph, you would see that all of that stuff is making it almost to the site and it's just stopping. Right. So what you're doing to heal and repair that injury is not working because the, the delivery system, the highway to transport those things there is, is broken down. Right. So once we restore that highway, which is the microvascular system, and you do that with hydrogen gas, you do that with red light therapy, therapy, and you do that with slow release peptides because they will. Bolus doses will not make it to that location and then they'll be gone from your bloodstream. Very small amounts will make it to that location. So you need prolonged sustained dosing. This is going to be a game changer for you.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Oh yes.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I feel like this will be amazing. Start from let's gain some knowledge to now I feel like we're both sitting here being like, how do we become the guinea pigs? How do we become that?

[Gary Brecka]

Well, you've already got a red light.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Bed out of it, so.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. And, and I'm going to check with the team that you're using it. But the team will be dialed.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The team will be using.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, the team will be using. It'll be a schedule. Yeah. Sign up sheet, the whole thing.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. This will be great, man. And I think we'll come back in, let's say 10 weeks after we start, we'll come back on this podcast and we'll just do a quick update and. Yeah. Because I think it would inspire a lot of people because there's so many people living with chronic ailments and they don't understand why they're staying chronic and nothing really seems to.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

And the audience, they know that there's this back has been a prominent piece of my, my journey for yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Years.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Really has. It really has.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

The boys were having fun playing this game called Tea with the in the Pool last week and my back's feeling a little bit better, but I just still stand up there and I'm just anything I do. I'm always thinking, I don't want to re.

[Gary Brecka]

Aggravate my back yeah, no, my. My. My wife has an L5S1 Fusion from Sage does from a. From a really bad car accident around the time that we met.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Like on my decks, it says like my L4, L5 and Si. Yeah, right side.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. Screaming certain times, like L4, L5 and S1 are compressed.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I want to say just, just off the dex of scan, it talks about how my discs in there kind of like deteriorating.

[Gary Brecka]

Okay. Can I tell you the thing that works the best for me?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yes, please.

[Gary Brecka]

And I hate it. Every day for the first 30 seconds to a minute, it's cold plunging.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Cold plunge mountain.

[Gary Brecka]

Every time, it's just makes me feel.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So much better, at least.

[Gary Brecka]

And sometimes I do it in the morning and at night, just if I've had a long day on my feet. But cold plunging, of all the things.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I think works the best.

[Gary Brecka]

But the red light is great too. And I do hydrogen tablets every morning. And the hydrogen bath, my thing is a process.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I just got to get a. Just a quality cold tub. Like I got a barrel. So I'll have to manually. And then I get lazy. I just don't do. I won't refill it because I'm not a. I love the, the feeling you get cold plus plunging.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Once you get out, it just.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, going in, it kind of sucks.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

But getting out, your whole thing about the maintenance.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, I just, you know, that's another one of those things. You know, I have a saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. And, you know, the more aggressively we pursue comfort, the faster we age. And, you know, like, we gotta stop telling grandma not to go outside. It's too hot not to go outside, it's too cold. Just to lay down, to relax, you know, to eat at the first pang of hunger. That's just destroying all your nest natural defense mechanisms. And, and cold plunging is one of those hormetic stresses. And look, you don't need to spend seven grand on a cold plunge. You can take Tupperware containers, fill them full of water, put them in your freezer, and the next night you'll have big blocks of ice. If you have a tub that'll last three days, it'll give you a cold plunge for three days, even cold showers. But immersing yourself in cold water, because water is 29 times more thermogenic than air, meaning it removes heat from the body at 29 times the rate of air. And most people don't realize all of the. The safety mechanisms that trigger the panic mechanisms that trigger in the body when you Quickly immerse yourself in cold water. You know, you get a peripheral vasoconstriction. But if you actually mapped the way that that works, it's, it's, it's, it's fascinating to me. Like, the more I study the human body, the more I, I believe in God, because I, I feel like this didn't happen by accident, you know, so you don't just get a peripheral vasoconstriction. It shuttles blood first to the brain, right? And then, and then once it shuttles blood to the brain, it will shuttle it to the heart and then to the lungs, and in that order. And what's fascinating about that, it's. It's a defense mechanism. So you're like walking across the ice and you break through the ice, and now you're in ice cold water, and you're by yourself. You have no resources. Like, what is the body going to do? Well, first of all, constrict the periphery, right? If the brain shuts off, nothing else matters. So take care of that first. Then if you, the. If the brain's going. If the heart shuts off, nothing else matters. So let's take care of that second. Once we got the heart stable, now we got to go to the lungs, because if they shut off, nothing else matters. Once you stabilize those systems, it's a very slow priority for the rest of the body. And then you activate something called brown fat, which is a very special type of fat in the body that actually exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat. So anybody that says that cold plunging doesn't burn fat, is it. It's nonsensical because you actually are physically taking calories and turning them into heat. Heat. There's a cost to raise your body temperature that's done by brown fat. But what's really fascinating is then your liver releases something called cold shock proteins. If you really want to have some fun, just Google cold shock proteins or benefits of cold shock proteins. There's a lot of research going on right now, and these magical proteins that are trapped in the liver that are dumped into the bloodstream during, when you, when you cold plunge. Some of them, LIN28A and LIN28B are being researched for improving insulin, insulin sensitivity, actually making you more sensitive to insulin, which is a good thing. And then, and then you get a. You get a release of dopamine and, and, and norepinephrine. And what do these do? They widen your field of vision, they improve your mood, they make you more acute, more sharp, more focused. More concentrated. So you think about, man, if I was walking on the ice and I broke through and I was in cold water, My body's going to preserve my brain, my heart, my lungs. It's going to. It's going to start raising my body temperature. It's going to widen my field of vision. It's going to make my hearing more acute. It's going it to make. Make me process things faster. Right. Your processing speed is a lot faster. That's why when you get out, you're like, I feel amazing. Right. That was it. That was all the defense mechanisms of your body trying to save your life. Yeah. And that's why, you know, we overdo it with cold plunging, too. I mean, look, three minutes minimum, six minutes maximum. 48 to 52 degrees Fahrenheit. There's no research that says colder is better, longer is better.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Better.

[Gary Brecka]

We don't want to become cold adaptive. We just want to cold shock the body. Right. Take advantage of that cold shock and get on with your day. But I call it my drug of choice. Like, nothing makes you feel better for longer have.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You know, is there any biological difference between men and women and using the Colton?

[Gary Brecka]

Yes. I mean, women need to be some. A little bit more cautious, especially given their time of the month. And so a cold plunge is really anything 58 degrees or less. Right. So women can get in. In slightly warmer water. 58 degrees Fahrenheit is still cold enough to give you all of the benefits of. It becomes like a man contest.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. It's always ego.

[Gary Brecka]

You know, it's like you did.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You did 48. Yeah, I did 46.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. 37, bro. Yeah. I'm gonna get liquid nitrogen next week.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Something about a winter time, though, when you have to break the ice in a cold tub and sit in it. You definitely feel like a Viking for a minute.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. Yeah, you definitely do.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Definitely feel way cooler.

[Gary Brecka]

You definitely do. But a lot of the things that, that, that apply to men don't directly apply to women. You know, like some of the worst, worst endocrine disasters I've ever had to repair are in young menstruating women that, that eat in a very narrow feeding window. Like husbands and wives will say, well, let's start intermittent fasting together. And the husband's killing it. Right. I mean, he's, he's putting on muscle and he's exercising. He's sleeping like a bear. He's got all the energy in the world. And, and, and, and the woman's just a disaster because she's narrowed her feeding window. And so if, if you're a woman, you're listening to this podcast and of you, all six of you. Yeah, well, well seven because my wife's here and my daughter. Eight. Okay, so the eight of you closer double digits. Yeah. What are you guys like 991?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

We're up there. We're up there. We're. I think we're 90. We're 97. No, we're not. Yeah, a lot of toxic masculinity on this podcast.

[Gary Brecka]

I feel.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I understand completely.

[Gary Brecka]

Anyway, we'll throw that, we'll, we'll throw the 8% of women a bone. Just, just get a blood test. If you, if your three month average, your blood sugar is very low, in other words, if, if it's below 5.3 or less, you're not a candidate for intermittent fasting. Men, we do really well with it. We only have one major hormone, testosterone. They have multiple hormones. They're different people throughout the time of the month. So I would. Is that science?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Sage of science?

[Gary Brecka]

Just purely science, baby.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Personality.

[Gary Brecka]

I can back that up. Multiple.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What were you saying? Taylor? I love you.

[Gary Brecka]

So. Yeah, I mean I just don't think it's a one size fit all. So women can do cold plunges at 58 degrees.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What's your, what's your thought on having a three, like three meals, like real full, nutritious meals as opposed to snacking throughout the day.

[Gary Brecka]

I think that's great. I mean if you look at the longevity diet, Valter Longo's research, who's probably the top, top fasting, intermittent fasting and fast mimicking researcher in the world at usc, you will find that the big data doesn't support time restricted eating. It does support fasting but not consistent fasting because we become adaptive. So a 12 hour feeding window is what he published in the, in the longevity diet. He has an enormous body of research to, to support that. And then once in a while doing what's called fast mimicking where you actually reduce your caloric intake for a day or for several days and then you go back to eating normal calories. But 12 on, 12 off is something that people seem that they to be consistent with over a long duration. I'm a huge fan of intermittent fasting for people that have, have blood sugar control issues. Again, it's, it's, it's like everything, it's not a one size fits all. So if you went and did a blood panel, you look at three things, you look at your glucose, you want that to be below 90 fasted you, you look at your hemoglobin A1C. It's a three month average of your blood sugar. You want that to be 5.3 or better. And you want your insulin to really be in the single digits. Right. And the blood test allows your insulin to get to about 25. So people think, well, I'm still normal. But high insulin means you're not. You're secreting a lot of insulin to lower your blood sugar. Those people are perfect on intermittent fasting. But 12 hours on and 12 hours off is perfect for the vast majority of the population. You can live a very, very long time feeding yourself in a 12 hour window and allowing 12 giving your body a 12 hour break. And that's easy to do. That's 8 in the morning till 8 at night. And I was fascinated when I really started reading the research on it because most people eat from like 6:30 or 7 in the morning until 11:30 at night. We just grazed all day. We're just constantly, we're constantly grazing. And so if you actually just locked in a 12 hour window, you know, 8 in the morning, 8 at night, 6 in the morning till 6 at night, 10 in the morning, till 10 at night. And you stayed consistent in that window and you shifted that window when you moved around time zones. Game changer for the majority of people. I love it. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What, what kind of preventative things. Will and I both have children, both have girls. What are some proactive things we can do for our children so that when they get to our age they don't have these auto immune diseases, these, these other things that seem to pop up that people call genetic.

[Gary Brecka]

I'm going to give you the number one thing that you can do for your kids. And this is a dietary change. And sadly it's because of the food supply here. You wouldn't have to do this if you were in Canada, you wouldn't have to do it if you were in Europe. But you have to militantly get the folic acid out of their diet. So you have to get them off of fortified or enriched foods. And what, that, what does that mean in the United States we are required by law. We spray all of our grains, all cereals, breads, pastas and grains of any kind. We spray them with the chemical folic acid. We've been told that folic acid is a naturally occurring compound. It's not. You cannot find folic acid anywhere on the, the surface of the earth. It does not exist in nature. Okay. Folate exists in nature. We make a chemical in A laboratory called folic acid. In 1993, the chemical industry convinced the US government to spray this on our entire grain supply. So all bread, all pasta, all flour and grains of any kind are sprayed with folic acid. We don't call it sprayed with folic acid, we call it fortified or enriched. So fortified or enriched foods are sprayed with folic acid, acid, water, fortified or enriched foods. Well, pop tarts, cereals, breads, bagels, all the things that we feed our kids. So if you just made the simple shift of either choosing organic or non fortified, non enriched versions of those foods, you would have a completely different child in the house. Because about half of the population can't process this, this compound at all. We have a gene mutation called mthf. It's affectionately called the gene. About half the population has it. It's called mthfr. It means we can't process folic acid, which wouldn't be a big deal until you realize that folic acid is the most prevalent nutrient in the human diet. So if you switch to non fortified, non enriched foods, you would, you would plummet the incidence of add, adhd, ocd, manic depression, bipolar, learning disability, abilities, poor attention span, poor ability to follow directions, what we call impulse control. All of these issues that you have in kids very often are because this compound is coming into their body and they can't process it. So once you learn to get around that system and you learn what food, it doesn't mean you can't eat bread, doesn't mean you can't eat pasta, doesn't mean you can't eat grains. You just need to eat the non fortified versions of those. Yeah. You know, everybody that's traveled to Europe or Italy and it lives in the U.S. the U.S. has had the experience where they go to Italy and they're like, dude, I eat pasta, like my life depends on it. Yeah, I feel great, dude. I, I'm walking down the street in, in France, I'm eating French baguettes, like, you know, like tic Tacs and. Yeah. And I'm not bloated, I'm not gassy, I'm not constipated. It doesn't make me want to crash because bread's made the way bread's supposed to be made over there. Same with pastas and cereals and grains. Here we add seed oils and we add folic acid to those and it just destroys our gut. So, so crushed cereal. But I know we all did nothing better. Dude, I remember lining up the, the marshmallows in the. Because My mom would get really pissed off because I would actually take the spoon, I would pick out all the marshmallows. I'd leave the cereal floating in there. Yeah. And she's like, you have to eat the whole thing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, it's more nutritious. Yeah, I need this marshmallow.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah. Do you see this little starfish? Yeah, that thing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Cereal too. Like, I was a big fruity Pebbles guy and if you didn't eat those Pebbles, loved them.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Golly, dude, I was. I was honeycomb golden smacks.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I was a big honey smack.

[Gary Brecka]

Who's the crunch?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Ripped but cross.

[Gary Brecka]

Who's the pirate with the cross inflictor?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I was a guy that had. You had to eat your bowl in a minute.

[Gary Brecka]

Captain Crunch.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, Captain Crunch.

[Gary Brecka]

Good. Oh, dude, that was so good. I can't even look at it now. But I used to line up those marshmallows.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

What are some rules that you break? I mean, where people will be surprised?

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, Gary, Bret doesn't. Yeah, I mean, you won't answer.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I'll ask your family.

[Gary Brecka]

No, no, I, I break rules on sugar. You know, like, you know, I'm not the, I'm not the one that shows up to my 5 year old niece's birthday party. I was like, oh, I'm not gonna eat that cake. You know me, you know, I try to avoid, Avoid forever chemicals. But you know, I would rather actually eat sugar because my body can process that. I don't drink. I haven't put the, I haven't put the label on myself that I'm never going to drink again. And we had a shot of tequila a few weeks ago. So I would say once in a while I break it for alcohol, usually tequila. Once in a while I'll break it for sugar. You know, I mean, what kind of.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Sugar are we talking here?

[Gary Brecka]

Mainly dark chocolate blizzard.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Not too long.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, no, no, no. Blizzard. I wouldn't do that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You won't do a blizzard?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No, it's hard if you learned about blizzards. It's heartbreaking.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's heartbreaking. Yeah. Don't go for the blizzard. Yeah, that's. That'll put you in a coma.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Ice cream?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, ice cream. I mean, you just look for the. There's this place called Southwest Ranches down the road from us and they actually do grass fed, grass finish blizzards. Grass fed grass, finished grass. Know, meats, raw dairy. So you can actually take the stuff that you like to eat. And I have this thing called lateral shifts where I'll take anything that you like to eat and I'll just shift it to something more nutritious. You won't even notice. Like, you know, I used to love nachos. Now I take masa chips which are non GMO corn, deep fried and beef tallow with. With sea salt. Right. Masa chips which are tortilla chips. Put my. And then I'll. And then I'll take grass fed, grass finish beef or organ meats and spread that on the top, you know, like the ground beef. And then I'll take raw goat cheese, shred it on the top of that, slice up some avocados, stick that on the top. Dude, it's just. It's a plate of nachos. And if you ate that nacho next to your other nachos, you wouldn't taste the difference. But the nutritional profiles massively.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's hard to beat that fake cheese though, that you get the ballpark.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, that's.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That's classic.

[Gary Brecka]

What is it? Velita or whatever?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Something like that. It's hard to beat that anytime cheese.

[Gary Brecka]

Comes out of a pressurized can. Come on, man.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No, I'm with you. But you're still smashing the little, little cans. Squeeze those.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Am I allowed to ask?

[Gary Brecka]

Are you talking about a whip?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No, no.

[Gary Brecka]

I was like, wow, you're really going.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So actually.

[Gary Brecka]

Can.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I wanted to ask his daughter like what. What pisses her off?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Go ahead.

[Gary Brecka]

About what pisses her daughter.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What's a pet peeve about your father?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, pet peeve by your dad.

[Gary Brecka]

One thing I will say, he'll get on a phone and if you leave any sort of food anywhere, it's gone. Oh yeah, I do. I do unconsciously eat on the phone. Yeah, he'll eat just about anything of mine. I'll make a plate of food, I'll.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Go to my room, go to the.

[Gary Brecka]

Bathroom, get a glass of water. I'll come back and it's completely finished. If I'm on intense phone call, nothing like and pacing around, I'll smash it off so much.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What's crazy too. She had that in the holster when it was ready for you.

[Gary Brecka]

She did have that in the holster. Get like, I'll get like shitty food every once in a while. Like stuff that's bad for you and I'll find it and I'll still eat it. That's what we needed unconscious eating. Dude, the more intense the phone call, the less I like.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You ever get like, if you get like bad food or say you get fast food or something do. Are you ever trying to be sneaky about it like, I don't want my dad to see this.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, I don't. I don't eat her fast food. It's like occasional.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I had my. Okay.

[Gary Brecka]

So we did a cross country road trip to Colorado. We took our Tahoe and we drove it out to our house in Colorado. And I had never had a Big.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Mac before, so I was like, I.

[Gary Brecka]

Want to try it. And I convinced her. I don't know how I did it. I convinced I was not on this trip, for the record, not there. It was just us, but I had a Big Mac and I had to.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Sit in the same position for like.

[Gary Brecka]

45 minutes because if I moved, I felt like I was going to explode. Like, it was the most. I'm like, that's what you get. Because it's gotten to the point where.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Like, we've eaten so healthy that, like.

[Gary Brecka]

Eating shitty food will make you, like, it'll make you like a hangover.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. Like, you wake up in the morning.

[Gary Brecka]

In the morning you'll feel terrible. Like, I can't eat anything like that. The whole fam meets really good, though. Yeah, I want it. And like, it's like the brownie bits and the ice cream, like the Ben and Jerry's he'll go through and he'll dig out the brownies, he'll dig out the cookies. Oh, no, I won't eat the ice cream, but I'll try to find the little piece of dark chocolate and I'll. I'll isolate the one piece of dark chocolate. Because I know I'm like, the surrounding environment's not good. But I will take a fork and surgically remove surgery.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Dark chocolate, as a.

[Gary Brecka]

That is a fact. Do you want to tell them about your experience in snagging my dad's cookies? Oh, that's. We could go for it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

We were into. We were in Colorado a few years ago, and so my son went to a dispensary and. And got these gummies. And we were going to do this big long hike six miles up to this lake called Lanfear. Like, and he's like, dad, you got to take one of these gummies. Going to help on the hike. I'm like, I see no connection between that gummy and my ability to perform on the hike. And I said, you know, but for a sun bonding moment, hit me with one of those gummies. So I take one. And I think the whole thing about, like, gummies is, like, they don't. They don't hit you right away. And I do. No drugs. None for the Record and you can verify that except for zero. Except for this time. So, like, I'm like 40 minutes in. I'm like, I don't feel a damn thing. So I was like, we're walking out the door. So I took another one.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

First off, time out, quick. Time out. That is the number we all get.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, dude. So.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

So these brownies are hitting me. Give me another.

[Gary Brecka]

Wait a minute. It gets actually worse. So we're going. So we're. The whole family's in the car and we're. We're going to the spot at Lanfear to hike. And she's like, let's stop up by my dad's house. I forget where we were paying, picking up. We go into her dad's cabin, and he's got these chocolate squares laid out on the counter, right? And I didn't realize that these were. These are also infused thc. I have never had. Well, now I have. And so I saw the. The chocolate square, and I smashed the chocolate square. And I get back in the car. So now I'm two gummies deep in a chocolate square. And all of a sudden, we're going down the. We're going down the highway, and I start to get flushed. Like, my whole body gets flushed. Blush. I feel this rush coming up my. My. My neck. And then I get overwhelmingly sleepy. And I start trying to convince everybody in the car to go back home and take a nap. And Sage is like, is wrong with you? Like, you're. You're like Mr. Energizer Bunny. Like, you wanted to go on this hike. I got the whole family in the car. I'm like, yeah, I don't mind if we just bang a U turn and just take a nap. And by the time we got there, I couldn't feel my face. I could. My. My hands felt like they were blown up. Up like balloons. And. And. And I started playing it back in my mind. I'm like, maybe it was the two gummies. I didn't even know that her dad's chocolate had the. What did it have? Yeah, then you left us with all the supplies. And he just did it as fast as possible. Finished the hike, left us with. Then the paranoia hit.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No supplies.

[Gary Brecka]

I had all the supplies in a backpack. And I got paranoid that I wasn't going to make it to the lake in time, so I took off running up the mountain for you at the. The family. I left them nobody. So I got up, they stripped all my clothes off. I jumped in the lake, and I'm swimming around this like 45 Degree Lake. And I can hear her screaming. F bombs coming up the, the mountain. I'm like, what's the matter, babe? I'm like, I'm just here treading water.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Feel this water.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it is beautiful. Six mile hike. It was no joke, but I felt like a bear was chasing. You know, you're like running and you can't kind of feel something's like about to grab you. I wouldn't even look behind me because I was like, it's almost got my back. The Paul just got.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You're. Yeah. You're in the basement. Put the lights off the girl. You think something's chasing you the whole entire time.

[Gary Brecka]

So I sprinted up. So that was the one and only time that I did that. I was like, man, I don't need to do that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

When did you end up, when did you end up learning about her dad's cookies?

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, like weeks later. Dad randomly, like, called him out on it and he's like, yeah. How did it feel when you, when you snagged the one of my cookies and Carrie was like, oh, my God, like a light bulb went off.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

He's like, yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

He's like, dude, those were, you were supposed to take a quarter of that. He's like, you were supposed to break that into quarters. I'm like, I wasn't supposed to touch it at all.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. That's the only time you've ever had marijuana.

[Gary Brecka]

That's. Yeah, that. Well, college there was like a 25 year. There was like a 25, 30 year gap. And then that time all of a sudden, all at once, and it hit me.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Gotta get to the lake.

[Gary Brecka]

Yes.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That was the only thing I was.

[Gary Brecka]

Like, I gotta get to the lake. I gotta get to the, the lake. And I, I, I was like, something is, something is like about to grab me. And I had, I, I don't get, I've never had anxiety or paranoia. I had anxiety. I was paranoid. I thought something was chasing me up the mountain. I was completely by myself and I.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Did, you know, your gut health's in check, so.

[Gary Brecka]

Exactly.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Got to the lake. People even have my underwear.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

And jumped in the lake. And then I started to feel normal. But dude, she was, you were, were, you were quite upset that time. Quite pissed off. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And it's like, yeah, you're paranoid and you have anxiety and then your wife's mad at you, but you can't really connect the dots while she's mad at you.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So that paranoid anxiety is a little bit higher.

[Gary Brecka]

I was like, Dude, I wanted to take a nap. Attention. Right now, like, I'm. I'm. I'm in the middle of a lake, so a bear doesn't get me. Yeah. And now I'm just. Now I'm thinking bears actually swim, so now I'm paranoid in the middle of a lake, you know, so.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Your ass.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it was. That was awesome. That was a tough one. That was a tough one. Enough. Can we cut their mic off?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

As a, as a family, like, when did you truly buy into basically becoming a superhuman? Like, of all of all these things, and was there a conversation that took place, like, hey, this is how we're now going to handle our entire lives?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Because you were saying you were life insurance, right?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, it was life insurance. I was a. I was a mortality expert. So we were researching, searching, you know, ways to predict mortality to the month. And, and I get a lot of flack for that, but it's truly some of the most accurate science in the.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

World because Dana will do his stuff and I'll be like, I was gonna die 10.4 years.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. You know, Dana was really interesting because Dana had no interest. The only thing Dana wanted to meet with me for was for me to tell him how many more years he had left on Earth. That was it. He's like, I'm a sick of. I was like, I don't do that anymore. That's what I used to do. He's like, I'm literally his exact worst. He goes, I'm a sick. I want to know exactly how long I have left on Earth. Like, all right, well, I need this blood test, this gene test. And. And so I did it. And when I got. We were asleep one night, and at 1:00 clock in the morning, the lab calls us LabCorp. So my name was on the call sheet for the lab for. For our clinic. So they run the blood work through the night. If they find a life threatening alert, they call, call the person on the account. So it's one o' clock in the morning. I see LabCorp. LabCorp. So I answer it, and they were like, hey, we have a life threatening alert on. On a client. And I was like, by the way, we. Dana's put all this in the public domain, so. And I was like, okay, what's the last name of the client? They were like, white. And I was like, dana White? Yeah, Dana White. And I was like, whoa, what's the alert? And it was like a triglyceride alert. His blood fat was so high, his triglycerides were 8 800. Which if you know anything about blood work, I mean, having fasted triglycerides at 800 is life threatening. I mean that's, you basically have a higher percentage of fat in your blood than blood. You know, his blood was solid at room temperature. So I got off the phone with LabCorp and I booked my flight to Vegas, leaving at 6:50 in the morning. I was in Miami, so I would be in Vegas by 9 o' clock in the morning. I was supposed to meet with Dana on a phone call. Call at 10am we were just going to do a phone call. When I landed In Vegas at 9, his assistant calls me Nicole and is like, hey, you know, we're Dana, we're going to do this call with Dana, 10 o'.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Clock.

[Gary Brecka]

And I'm like, oh no, I'm in Vegas. And she was like, oh no, that wasn't necessary. We can just do it by phone. I go, oh no, no, we need, we need to meet. And she goes, oh, is there something serious? And I was like, yeah, it's, it's pretty serious. And she's like, is there anything I can tell Dana? And I was like, you know, sadly I can't tell you you unless Dana gives me permission to tell you, but I need to see Dana at 10 o' clock in the morning. And then, and so Dana comes into the office and he's like, dude, what's up? And instead of going through his blood work, I just, I, I, I didn't talk to him about a single level in his blood. I just described exactly what it was like to be inside of his body 24 hours a day. And it freaked him out to such a level that he said, I'll do whatever you say for 10 weeks. Because I said, I can see that you wake up sore and achy in the morning like you had a workout the night before when you haven't. And I bet it really bothers you when you get out of bed first thing in the morning and, and soles your feet and your ankles are so tender that you can barely walk to the bathroom, take your first piss. I said, Dana, I can see that a few nights a week you're, you're waking up so hypoxic, I wouldn't be surprised if you're vomiting at at night. And he was like, oh dude, who told you that? And then I said, you know, it's, I bet one of the things that bothers you most is that it's, it's painful for you to bend down and, and tie your own Shoes. And dude, he took an open we. Have you ever been in his office? He has that big conference table right when you walk into the left hand side. He took an open palm and slammed it down on the, on the table and jumped up. He goes, who the told you that? He's like, I've even told my wife that. How do you know that it's painful for me to tie my shoes? And I'm like, dude, your triglycerides are so high. It's called claudication. You're. You're. When. When you bend down and put pressure into your legs, all that fat's plug in the end of your arteries. It's irritating the nerves. It feels like the skin's going to peel off your legs. He's like, nobody. I haven't told anybody that. And so I just described what it was like to be inside of his body. I didn't say, oh, your C reactive protein is. Is this. And your hemoglobin A1C is that. Because you, you'll just lose them. And, and I said, look, the good news is if I can see the symptom in your labs, we can fix it. And he was like, how long is it going to take? And I'm like, 10 weeks. And dude, six weeks in, he calls me freaking out. He's like, I feel amazing, dude. My legs don't hurt anymore. I slept the first night without a CPAP machine. I remember the first time he called me. He was like, dude, something, something's wrong, Gary. And I'm like, what's up? He said, said the last three days, four days, I'm going into the gym. He's like, every time I step on the treadmill or pick up a weight, I immediately get lightheaded. And I was like, oh, my God, dude, that's a great sign. And he's like, what are you talking about? And I said, you know, you're on blood pressure medication, so when your blood pressure is high, your blood pressure will. Your medication will make you normal. When your blood pressure is normal, your medication will make you low. It'll make you hyposystolic. It will make you lightheaded. So this is, this is the point where I need to, to get, get with the doctors and start titrating you off of your. Your blood pressure medication. Because I'm not a doctor, I'm not licensed practice medicine. So I brought, I brought in our, our doc and she put him on a titration protocol to start titrating down on his meds. And so as his blood pressure began to drop. We started lowering his medication, eventually down to zero. His blood pressure to this day is still normal. He was on three BP meds. That's crazy to try to.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You know, we first met him and.

[Gary Brecka]

He was on CPAC. Happen.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. We met him in February of 22. Was it 22? Yes, in Arizona. And he was like. You were the main topic of conversation.

[Gary Brecka]

Really.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

He was showing us shirtless pics. He was showing. It was you. It was you and Harley Davidson's.

[Gary Brecka]

Really?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

That was basically the. The first conversation we ever had with Dana.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Is all that how jacked up he was about living life all of a sudden?

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. It's awesome.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It is, It's. It's incredible.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I mean, if you have those kind of results. Results with Dana. Jelly Roll. I mean, how much of a turnaround it's been incredible to see.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. That was amazing.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It's like he's almost like nuts, man. Watching him at SummerSlam being able to even do some of the things that you knew like a year ago he wouldn't even be able to.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

To accomplish. Incredible.

[Gary Brecka]

He was. He sent me actually. You found it. My daughter found it. I don't know, I should say this on podcast, but I actually didn't know who he was when he text me. And I mean, I knew his music, but I didn't connect it to Jelly Roll. I knew, God, I need a favor. I mean, I knew his music. I'm a big fan of country music. I was actually a fan of his music. I didn't connect him to this guy. And I. I got a DM one day from him and he said, do you work with fat people? And. And so. And so she comes in and she's like, oh, my God, Jelly Roll know sent you dm. I'm like, who's Jelly Roll? And she's like, he's like the biggest country music sensation right now. He's. And she started playing the songs. I'm like, oh, I know that song. I know that song. So we went out, we flew out and met him in la and we flew on his jet to Vegas. So I had him do some blood work, had him do the gene testing. We got on the, the plane with him in, in la and we just flew private to Vegas. And I did the whole. The lab review for him on the, on the plane. And. And I said the same thing to him that I said to Dana. You know, in 10 weeks, you're just not going to recognize yourself. And to his credit, he did exactly everything I said to a tee. For that first 10 weeks, he started cold plunging. We, we made him get in 10,000 steps a day. He actually participated in my 10,000 step challenge. He set a goal for himself to run a, run a 5K. Now he's worked with other people like Brigham Bueller and, and you know, other folks other than myself that are partially responsible for this. But when we started with him, I'll never forget that flight because remember, he started, it was actually very sad because I could see this guy's heart. Like he's a good human. Like he is just his value system, the love that he has for the music, how grateful he is for the opportunity he, you know, given his past and, you know, his, his, his record and incarceration and everything, like he's, he's one of the most grateful, humble human beings I've ever met. But he could barely fit in this private airplane seat that we were in. And he started talking to us, describing what it was like to go through a day in the life of just being him at his weight. And I'd never had somebody that weighed 500 pounds ever described to me what it was like to be trapped in a 500 pound body. And like, he would say, I, I have to sleep on my side and wedge myself in with pillows because if I roll on my back at night, I'll, I'll suffocate, I'll vomit, you know, because you got £250 just, just laying on your lungs. And he was like, you know, I never turned the radio down in the car because when I pull up to a stoplight and I, and I, I, and I stop at a stoplight, I can hear myself with wheezing, so I'll just turn the radio up to, to bury the sound of my own breath wheezing. And just the struggle watching him just get in and out of an airplane and up and down from a seat and like he, he went through the, the struggle of what it was like. And he said every morning that he would wake up. He said as soon as he would wake up, he would thank God that he didn't die that night because he, he felt like he was going to die every night. He went, went the to sleep and just listening to him describe that 45 minutes to get out of bed and, and, and he was, he was broken from that standpoint. Like he is in a place. He's like, I'm ready to commit to changing this because God's given me this opportunity to have my music serve the world and Like I feel like I'm gonna die. So he was one of the, I mean we've worked with lot of, a lot of folks but you know, he, he is one of the most genuine human beings and to see that transition right there is just, is just amazing, man. No, no better human being for that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Day with it too.

[Gary Brecka]

That's probably added 26 or 28 years to his life too. Just, you know, you think about every pound of body fat that you have, add six extra miles of blood vessel to your body. Ten pound body of fat is 60 miles of blood vessel. A hundred pounds is 600 miles. So when you're 250 or 300 pounds overweight, the unnecessary distance that your heart has to pump blood to service tissue that is not useful to you is amazing. By getting all of that back now, I mean, it's incredible. Incredible for him.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What.

[Gary Brecka]

And the dude's like cold plunge maniac. He did the 5k. He walked his first 5k. It's awesome.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It'd be awesome when he gets his goal to have you and him on together. Talk about the journey.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, no, we, we've, we've missed a few times. We've set it up for a couple of con A concerts that he was going to do. I, I actually did the great world race with my son. It was like seven marathons, seven continents in seven days. And I, and I got back from the that and I was so broken. I was so broken. And I got a really bad stomach virus from like Istanbul or something. I forget either Istanbul or Cartagena. I picked up a really, really bad stomach virus. So I was supposed to do the pod with Jelly at his conference and, or his concert and had to cancel. But we're gonna do it again.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Catch up. I can't wait for him to tell that story again. Again. Can't wait. 1.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I'm looking at like circling back on the, the access, like if longevity becomes widely available, which I feel like it's starting to make a push to be widely available, how do we get it to being for everyone versus just the privilege and for the wealthy?

[Gary Brecka]

Well, first of all, like I said, when, when the powers to be Health and Human Services, nih, cdc, fda, when they realize that it is less expensive to prevent chronic disease than it is to treat it, when it becomes a, when it becomes a fiscal advantage to be in service to humanity and not in service to the corporations that fund their campaigns, you're going to see this. The lifestyle medicine shift to the mad masses.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You feel like it's going to be, you feel like it's going to be more of like dropping. Showing them the expense and cost of it being down, but also on the other side the profitability of people being more. Imagine if we healthier life. I feel like if you, I could hear it being like you dropped the expenses down, but I wonder the profits that it would completely cut out because people are now healthy and not needing to go to the doctor because they're working with, you know, they're working with places that only have, you know, several hundred clients or a couple hundred clients, probably like yourself. You probably work with like a handful of people and then you probably have to scale a little bit or work with other doctors compared to when you're going into a regular hospital or a regular doctor. They're working with thousands of clients. So you're only going to get that 15 minute attention, seven minutes. I feel like when you cut, you'll cut the expenses. But it's like I wonder the investor or the capitalism mind, mind sees. It's like, well how is this going to cut, you know, if people aren't sick anymore then how are we gonna, how are we gonna continue to make money?

[Gary Brecka]

Well, they can continue to make money, but you know, what's really interesting is, you know, the way that a lot of other socialized health care systems work is they're incentivized to keep the population healthy because it's too expensive for them to be sick. We have the polar opposite here. We have a sick care system because we have a sick profit system. You know, so the majority of the money is in the middle medicine. Right. So for example, if I can get you to subscribe to the fact that you have a genetically inherited disease, I can get you to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. And so we develop a lot of these fallacies. Like, you know, if there's something in medicine called idiopathic, okay, idiopathic means of unknown origin, meaning we have no idea what's causing this. 85% of all high blood pressure is idiopath empathic. It's of unknown origin. We don't know what's causing it. You know what we do? We medicate the heart anyway for a crime we can't prove that it's committing. There is zero causal link between LDL cholesterol and cardiovascular disease. LDL cholesterol on its own is not a marker for cardiovascular disease. Yet we use it to put 65% of the population on statin medication. Medication. So we, we've, we developed a lot of These fallacies that say, okay, well, if I can't tell you why you have high blood pressure, let's look at your family history. Oh, look at this. Your father's brother had high blood pressure, and your mom's brother had high blood pressure. You have genetically inherited hypertension. You have familial hypertension. If you took it a step further and, and looked your doctor in the eye and said, okay, well, what gene did I inherit from my uncle that gave me this concept condition? Their face would go blank. Right? Because that gene doesn't exist. And if that gene doesn't exist, that means that that condition does not exist. We don't pass disease very rarely from generation to generation. We pass deficiency from generation to generation. We have a pandemic of nutrient, vitamin and mineral deficiencies in this country. We do not have a pandemic epic of chronic disease. If you actually looked at a soil lineage study done in 1945 versus one done in 2023, you would see that the soil is just so depleted of nutrients, raw materials, minerals, right? And that now, you know, a leaf of spinach then is not like a leaf of spinach now. And, and so as we shift to actually better agricultural practices, you're going to see this trickle into the masses. As we realize that physical education, things like sleep, things like connection, things like sense of purpose, community, whole food diets, you're going to see that this actually, and I believe that Maha is going to lead this charge, you're going to see that this shift becomes the most profitable thing for our country. And eventually it will be unpopular for politicians to be on the other side of this movement. You know, like, if you look at some of the biggest big movements of our time, like the MeToo movement, for example, that snowball started rolling downhill and it got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. So for you to be against that movement, you had to be almost pro domestic violence. Well, I mean, to be against the Maha movement, you're eventually going to have to be pro childhood cancer, pro morbid obesity, pro chronic disease. I mean, the, the, the light is being shed on the corruption in our food supply supply, the corruption in our nutritional research, and eventually it will be more profitable for these companies to conform, which is a good thing, than it will be for them to resist it. And so, you know, I get attacked in the media for it all the time. I get called a pseudoscientist. You know, I'm not a doctor. I never pretend to be a doctor. I'm, I'm very consistent about saying I'm not a doctor and not licensed to practice medicine, but they, what they call me the other day a chemophobe. I kind of like that. You know, if you're afraid of chemicals, I want to get. I want to get. Get a shirt that says chemophobia.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Probably should.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, we should all be chemophobic. But, but so, so to answer your question, you know, and I say this all the time, like it's. It's the secret to longevity. Look at the people that are living the longest. Like, we have data, right? And, you know, if you went to Sardinia, for example, where one of the longest life expectancies on earth, you wouldn't find. You'd find that they're the highest carbohydrate consumption in the world. Longest life expectancy. Then you go to Singapore, one of the highest meat consumptions in the world. But very long life expectancy. You go to the Mediterranean and. And they eat very high fatty fish and lots of oils. Very long life expectancy. Then the French are the whole model up because they're smoking cigarettes and drinking wine and eating cheese, and they're living forever. The continuity between all of that is the absence of processed food. It's a whole food diet.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, whole foods, cigarettes back. I see marble reds, apple kids.

[Gary Brecka]

I actually grew up on a tobacco farm. Believe it or not. I cut tobacco.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I was listening to. But I remember hearing you talking about the. How a labor intensive it is.

[Gary Brecka]

It's. It is the most intense labor you'll ever do in your life. If anybody listening to this has ever cut tobacco, they will tell you, I've never had a job harder than cutting tobacco because you cut it in August. I lived in Southern Maryland. Upper Marlboro. Yeah, Marlboro country. Remember the Marlborough, man? Yeah. So. So what these guys do. Yeah, Basically what you do is imagine just a field. See that little machete?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. That's exactly how you cut tobacco. You push it over and you cut it. So you walk like that for miles through these fields and you push it up just watching. Oh, dude, you want to talk about low back? Oh, then you put those. Then you. Then you put those plants on a stick, five or six of them to a stick, and it weighs like 60 pounds. And you got to climb them up in these barns that are like five, six stories tall. They were not built by OSHA certified engineers either. Like, this is like a. Dude, it's.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Like two bottles so high.

[Gary Brecka]

Because you, you hang them in these barns. You have these tobacco barns, and they're five or six stories High. They got tin roofs. They got these little slats you open on the side to allow the tobacco to breathe because the tobacco is green and it's gummy, you know, and you got to drive, dry it all out. And so you hang these sticks at different. Yeah, there is. See those little rafters? Okay. You climb up in those rafters and you straddle them like this. And you grab these sticks between your legs and you pass it to the guy above you. And then he passes it up and he passes it up and your head is against this tin ceiling. See that? That's exactly what it's like, dude. Oh, God. It's bringing back horrible memories. Horrible. My parents were abusive. Captain John Bracko. Like, how did you Let me do this, dad. Yeah. So see how high they are? Okay. The guy up the top, okay, that's, that, that's the, that's the youngest guy that's getting paid the least. And he's standing next to that, that hot tin roof in August, it's like 130. That thing weighs 65 pounds. He's carrying right there. And they just see how jacked he is. Yeah, yeah. Just from hanging tobacco.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

So what you're saying is bring it.

[Gary Brecka]

Back, dude, I'm telling you, that's, I think that's where I got my work ethic. I, I, I cut tobacco. Just growing up. I mean, I was making $5 an hour when I was 13, 14 years old. Which back then was great to hear.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

It back on the Maha thing. You're talking about how you think Maha is going to prove it to where it's going to show that, hey, we hit. It's more profitable to actually keep people.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Healthy than the actual opposite from not taking down big.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, you don't have to keep.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to take down pharma. You just have to hold them accountable. I mean, you think about what happened during the last pandemic, right? I mean, the this and I don't care what side of vaccines, vaccine aisle you're on, but when we, when we developed, when the MRNA vaccine was developed, this was a completely untested, novel theory, right? Most of the time, we make vaccines. First of all, vaccine is supposed to prevent the infection and prevent the spread. Okay. Forget the fact that you would have less severe symptoms. It prevents the infection and the spread. And so basically, a virus is not a living thing thing. A virus is an envelope that contains DNA inside of it. So what we used to do is we would take the envelope and we would Take the DNA out. Let's say polio, okay? You take the polio envelope and you take the DNA out. Now you have what's called an attenuated virus. I can put this polio virus in your body because it doesn't have DNA and it can't infect you, but it can light your immune system up. That's a true vaccine. Vaccine, right? I expose your. Your immune system to this. It's called nucleocapsid protein, and. And your immune system lights up. But this, this, this virus doesn't have any DNA, so it can't give you polio. So then, you know, big pharma comes along and said, hey, we can actually make these out of mRNA. Well, most people don't know what MRNA is, but if you actually take a cell and you go through the cell wall and you'll find the nucleus of the cell inside the nucleus of your cell, 32 trillion cells is the DNA. The DNA is the boss. It's the CEO. The DNA is running the show. It has two roles. One is called replication. It makes an exact copy of itself, but the other one is called transcription. So if I was the DNA sitting in the nucleus, I would be writing you guys messages telling you what to do. You go make this protein, you throw this nutrient out, you bring this nutrient out it in. Okay? Those messages are called mRNA, okay? So my notepad that sends you an instruction is MRNA messenger ribonucleic acid. So when I give you that message, if it was a normal circumstance inside of a cell, you would go conduct that task. And when you got to back to your desk, the message would be gone organically. If I said, go make the spike protein, and you got back to your desk, the message is degraded. What Pfizer did was they took a synthetic copy of the notepad. They took a synthetic copy of the DNA's message. The only problem they didn't realize was that message never degrades. So now I say, go make the spike protein. You get back to your desk, go make the spike protein, and you come back to your desk, go make the spike protein. Right, Go make the spike, directing that message. The MRNA never degraded, so the message continued to tell. Tell this. This cell to make this thing called a spike protein. Now, what happens is the spike protein then goes into the blood. Now you have to start dividing the populace into categories. Number one, can you clear the spike protein? Great. You have no complications from the vaccine. Can you marginally clear the spike protein? Okay, you have marginal symptoms. Weight gain, water retention, brain fog, muscle Aches, poor fish focus, poor concentration, hormone disruption that you can live with. Then a third of the population has very severe consequences. They can't clear the spike protein at all. Turbo cancers, trigeminal neuralgias, myocarditis, pericarditis, the people that died the fastest. Because again, it goes back to the, the theory that the biggest fallacy in modern medicine is that what goes into my body and your body and your body body is all treated exactly the same way. Nothing could be further from the truth. Let's say the three of us ate the exact same amount of mercury laden tuna fish every single day. Same amount of mercury in the same amount of tuna fish every day for 90 days. I might have deadly mercury poisoning. You have some joint pain and some brain frog, you got nothing, no trace of mercury in your system at all because we all methylate and rid these things differently. So, so the up thing, if you will, about this MRNA vaccine is we were like okay, we've never done this in humans. We have no safety trials, we have no clinical data proving effectiveness. Yeah, let's, let's rip it, let's give it a run, let's, and let's mandate it. And then we put this gene experiment and, and, and we call it a gene experiment because it turns activities in the cells on that we don't know if it's ever going to turn off. Right. So if you're concerned about that, you can, you can do spike protein detox. Peter McCullough has one. These are cheap nattokinase and other over the counter things that you can get that will clear the spike protein from, from your body. But I don't know how we got down that road, but was I answering question or was I just on the sand?

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You started bringing up the vaccines, I brought up the, the Maha thing.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh. And that caught me down. The vaccine.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah, you got, you got the vaccine rule, which is, which is great. It's in the way you tell it. Anybody can understand.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

How it all works. Which is awesome. But you're looking at the transition of how America is trying to fix you to where America is constantly trying to help you to where you don't have to necessarily be fixed. What is the timetable in your mind that America or MAHA or these, these movements you're trying to make, you're showing actual data to be like, see, look how far this is down. Look how these autoimmune diseases down. Like when do you think you'll be able to have a leg to stand on as far as data goes?

[Gary Brecka]

Well, first, already the data is already coming in. I mean, one of the things that was released in what's called the MAHA report was what Bobby Kennedy wanted to do was look at what are the links to the skyrocketing rates of autism, what are the links to the skyrocketing rates of, of obesity. And what's really cool about the approach that's being taken is that we're not going to say we're banning all of these substances for no reason. What we're doing is we're going to say we're going to look at the data and we're going to force, force certain things like vaccines to go through the same level of rigorous testing that other pharmaceuticals do. We're not going to give them an on end around. You're not going to take the vaccine schedule from eight in the 1970s to 79 vaccines in 2025 and tell us that in that span of time we needed 71 more vaccines in order to protect the population. Especially when the majority of these have not gone through intense rigorous safety trial. So that's the first thing is you're going to see that a lot of these, a lot of these things are going to collapse under their own weight because they don't have the right amount of safety data. The second thing that you're going to see is real intentional research on highly processed food ingredients because we cannot sustain the rates of autism which have gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 32 children. I mean, think about that for a minute. 1 in 10,000 in, to 1 in 32. When, when I graduated high school, first of all, I had never, never even heard of autism. I don't, I don't know an autistic. I didn't know an autistic child. I didn't even know somebody who knew somebody with autism. She's 17 years old, she knows 10 kids with autism. I mean that's, that is really scary, right? It's sort of become semi the norm. So when we reach tipping points like this and you have organizations like End Chronic Disease and Moms Across America and the MAHA Action, this movement is becoming such a boulder rolling downhill that you are seeing politicians that do not want to stand in front of it and are saying, hey, you know what? I am not going to vote for House Appropriations Bill 453 because I'm not going to protect chemical companies at the expense of residents of my state. And, and that is where you're going to see the fascist shift when becomes politically unpopular to stand with chronic disease and against, you know, fixing, fixing the problem again. You know, think about the fact that there are bills working their way through Congress like House Appropriations Bill 453 where these chemical companies are, are right on the verge of getting broad sweeping immunity to be allowed to sell chemicals they can't sell in their own country, country, to our country, poison the population en masse and have no responsibility. You start cutting those things off and then it becomes more profitable for food pharma and ag to actually do the right thing. That's when you will see massive shifts in, in the status of healthcare in America.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Do you since taking on this, this massive goal and you realize you're affecting so many wallets of people that are so big everywhere. Has there ever been a concern for your own safety doing the things that you're doing?

[Gary Brecka]

No question, no question. We talk about it all the time. You know, I'm, I'm in, in the process now of potentially getting full time security which I never thought I would ever have to think about that. Interestingly, you know, I, when, when we do digging on, on some of the well funded source attacks, there were, there were hundreds of physicians that signed a petition to have me permanently banned from social media mainly because they'll say I'm practicing medicine without a license. I, I, I actually am proud of the fact and I'm very, I disclosed the fact. I am not a physician, I'm not licensed to practice medicine. I'm not trying to give you medical advice. What I'm trying to do is distill the big data and give it to you in a way that you can, you can understand it. And what's happening now for the first time in our nation's history is the, the convergence of artificial intelligence, intelligence, big data and early detection is about to circumvent the entire medical system. We're going to upend our modern medical system in a way that's going to be catastrophic for certain players in the system. And the reason why that's going to happen is because the big data doesn't lie, right? And now we have all of the data and we're starting to publicize the statistics. And you know that 74 of our nutritional research is funded by food and pharma. I mean Bobby Kennedy wiped out the hierarchy at the fda, wiped out the hierarchy at the cdc. And we're putting people in there that have a spiritual intention to help humanity. You know, it's as much of a spiritual revolution as it is, you know, a financial revolution. Like it just has to come to an end. And I think finally people are starting to stand up to this. Every single person listening to, to this podcast right now has either had or knows somebody very close to them that has cancer. If you ask that same question 50 years ago, it would be rare. Oh, yeah. You know, somebody I went to high school with, I heard that his mom had breast cancer. Like, right now, if you said, how many people do you know that have breast cancer? How many people in your family have suffered from cancer? I mean, it's the, the proximity of these conditions and diseases is ra. Right in our faces. And people have had it, right? And, and the sad thing is, you know, you're walking down the food aisle and you know, this shit is in, in, in, in your grocery stores. Like, I don't have an issue with seed oils, for example. Just, just pick on seed oils for a minute. It's, it's not the plant. It's the distance from the plant to the table, right? When you take a canola plant, well, also called a rapeseed, and you put it in a commercial press and it comes out, out gummy, then you degum it with hexane, which is a known neurotoxin, Then you take that neurotoxic degumed oil and you heat it to 405 degrees. Well, now you turn it rancid, it's putrefied, it stinks. So now you deodorize it with sodium hydroxide. That's a known carcinogen. And then you take a carcinogen and a neurotoxin, you odor, deodorize and degum the oil. And then before you bottle it, you bleach it, and then you put it on the shelf, right? You ever walk down like, the, the food aisle and you see like, Western oils or the, or the vegetable oils, and they're all exactly the same color. It's that beautiful, perfect yellow. And then there's American Heart association, one of the most corrupt in the country, putting a heart healthy label on that. Why? Because they're funded by big food. And so that whole system is being dismantled right now. You know, and it's going to be, it's going to be American first. It's, it's going to be, you know, our children first. And, and at some point, even, even the politicians that want to take the other side of this equation are realizing, man, I have, I have children. I've got, I got people in my family suffering from these diseases. You know, I'm trying to raise children. The fact that my kids have a shorter life expectancy than I do. Statistically speaking. That's not what I want to be my, my legacy.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

What does it look like for you 20, 30 years from now? You talk about all the statistics that America is in and they're doing, we're doing awful, whatever the main statistics are. How does America look to you in 20, 30 years? Is it, can it be completely reversed?

[Gary Brecka]

It can absolutely be completely reversed. You know, we can become the agricultural powerhouse that we were 50 years ago, meaning that we can actually, you can, you can regenerative sustainable farming. We're, we're, we're actually going to, you know, dispel a lot of the myths that cow farts are leading to, you know, greenhouse emissions. You're seeing the, the food pyramid be rewritten now from, BY People like Dr. Mark Hyman. I mean serious, you know, licensed medical professionals have dedicated their lives to nutrition. So I think in, in 10 years, our modern educational system and food system will, has the chance to be repaired to the point where you will see a massive reversal in chronic, in chronic disease. And a lot of it has to do with, do with the success of the MAHA mission because this is legislative, these are legislative initiatives going on at the state level, going after the SNAP program, trying to get petroleum based food dyes out of this food system, trying to get high sugary sodas out of those systems, looking at herbicides, insecticides and pesticides and like, hey, what, what kind of issues do these cause when we take these micro poisons into our bodies and our bodies can't get rid of them. And, and I think you're going to see the shift from major legislative initiatives to supporting our farmers and the soil and the food instead of these massive industrial farms. You know, Bobby Kennedy is now like back to farmers markets and trying to get, you know, the nutrition and the health of the soil fixed because really the health of humanity goes back to the health of the soil. And so I, I'm very bullish on the Future of America 10, 15, 20 years from now. I think that we can reverse the pandemic of chronic disease. I think that we can get real data on the, the truth around vaccines and whether or not we should believe more in what, you know, man makes us than God gave us. You know, if you look at what really put the pandemic into recession, it was herd immunity from natural infection. It was, wasn't mass vaccination. The mass vaccination failed because it needed mass repetitive boosting. So it wasn't the vaccination and the, and the repetitive Boosting it was the fact that people's immune system kicked in and wiped this virus out. It's called your herd immunity. But we didn't reach there from chemicals and synthetics. We reached that because of natural, natural infection. So I'm very bullish on it. Over the next 20 years, how long.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Do to you want to live?

[Gary Brecka]

You know, right now I'm, I'm pushing 120, you know, by my glycan age score. So and, and I'm not psycho about it. I mean you heard about some of my misgivings. I never go off the blizzard bandwagon but just want to play that out there. But you know, I, I, I think it's what, what's, what is probable, not what's possible. I think you know, because I've, I've been blessed to discover like I would call it the true meaning of life. You know, how it's really about connection and about community and about a you know, like a shared sense of purpose. The Gary Breck of 10 or 15 years ago is not the Gary Breka that sit in front of, of you today. You know, it's very narcissistic, very myopic, very. Well, I was oriented around trying to be, you know, wealthy and I didn't never became wealthy until I started focusing on other people's well being. And I'm starting to really understand, you know, how the universe works and starting to you know, value my, my family and opportunities I've had in different ways. And I think that's what's, that's what's going to extend my life. You know, it's not the red light bed or the hydrogen nano bath. It's just going to be that, that basic connection, you know, back with my, you know, back with my family, whole food diet, focusing on my sleep, getting regular exercise. As you can see, I'm not the most jacked person in the world but I work out for longevity. Yeah, yeah. See the flex. So, so you know I'm, I'm, I'm excited but right now based on my glycan age, I, I should hit 120.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Okay.

[Gary Brecka]

I'd like to see it maybe go to 140.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

140 solid.

[Gary Brecka]

140 solid.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Like 92.

[Gary Brecka]

92, that's such an odd number dude.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I, I, I don't mind that. It's, it's like if I fix your.

[Gary Brecka]

Back pain, you might want to live a lot longer.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Then I think to myself like say, say I was set to live to 120. I feel like, I'm just going to outlive live everybody that I've loved, and I watch them die. Which is a wild thought of it, but that's just like.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You know, you get to a certain age, and it's like, people just. People want to come and take photos.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Of you for being 120.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You might not have your wife. You know what I mean? Like, if your kids, like, you're gonna be so old, like, what. What great grandkids are, like, I get to go to my great grandpa's house.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. None of them.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Maybe there's like a. Maybe there's a rare few out there.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

You know what? Actually.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

But it's.

[Gary Brecka]

But I'll take them with me. I'm not going to let my wife bail early.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

My daughter. My daughter is named after my wife's grandfather. They get excited to go there. That's a great grandfather. That's a great grandpa. These. He had. I think he got diagnosed with cancer when Taylor, my wife, was 13. She's 31 now. 30.

[Gary Brecka]

Wow.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

32. And he's still alive when he's.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

He's probably out there, and he probably wants you guys to come and visit more.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

So there's like, some isolation. I know I'm getting a little, like, pessimistic.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I don't disagree with that at all.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Like, man, you just. You outlive everybody, bro.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I talk to my wife, and I'm like, you better die first.

[Gary Brecka]

Well, they say, you know, like, I better die. Broken heart syndrome. Loneliness is a real thing, man. We knew in the mortality space, for example, if you wanted to cut a human being's life expectancy in half at any age. And I mean, at any age, you put them in isolation. Isolation. Like, isolation is the most detrimental thing to longevity. It's so, you know, and. And the. And the crazy thing is so many of us are getting isolated in plain sight because we think connection is through our phones. Yeah, right. Connection is what we're doing right now, what you guys do every day on the podcast. You know, connection is. It's. It's medicine. You know, again, the blue zones proved this, too. You know, there was. There were no longevity hotspots, spots that. Where they didn't see people had a sense of community and purpose and, you know, and. And a connection. So, like, there. There's something to be said for what you're. You're saying, like, you know, you start losing your loved ones and your. And your soul mate and. And then your will to go that long. But, yeah, Anyway, on the chart, I'm making it to one. Yeah, I think. I think if Sage leaves around 110.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Then maybe I'll check out something happens to saves himself. Sorry you have to be the process of this conversation. But, like, she goes, you're 90. It's like, I got 30 more years.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. I might bail.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Head to Oregon, Switzerland, do what needs to be done, honey, I'll see you in a minute.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, we talk about that. Morbid, too. She's like, I don't want to do life without you. I'm like, I don't want to do life without you either. I saw this old let's pinky swear not to die.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I saw this.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I was on one of the. One of the social apps. I just saw this. Really a really old couple. They seem like they were like, you know, around 100 years old, and the wife's just sitting there on the deathbed and holding his hand. It's like this old couple spending their last moments together and stuff. And I'm just like, you just see how old they are and everything. It's like, man, you gotta enjoy the life that you have.

[Gary Brecka]

Right? Amen. There's.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You look at your wife. Like, we're gonna look like such different people when we're 90 to 100. And if you're losing your soul mate, like, right in front of you, it's like, what a ride that we had. One's gotta watch the other one die.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Makes me a little sad.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Pray you're the one that goes first.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah.

[Gary Brecka]

40 years day, there's not a person listening to this podcast that would not give every single thing that they have at that moment to be back in this moment.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

God.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Amen, bro.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And it's like, how do you consistently keep that perspective? Because it's so easy to walk off this bus then go chase something new or be excited about whatever.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

But at the end of the day, it's. That exact video that I've seen is the. It's the. The males talking to the female. Right. And how do you see me? Can you hear me? She's like laying there, years, like, oh, my God.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah. Yeah. Broken eye syndrome is a very real thing. You know, we said in. In the mortality space, if. If you had a long duration marriage and one spouse passed away, you would dramatically shorten the life expectancy of the other spouse. Dramatically, man.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Like, you know, I'm sure you guys talk about it. Are you the oldest?

[Gary Brecka]

She's the youngest.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You're the youngest. But, Rue, I have to we have two. She's the oldest.

[Gary Brecka]

She's three.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

She just went to school last, last week. And so, you know, wife and I were just laying in bed and we're just like, man, she just. They just grow, bro.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, dude, Sage and I just.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

They're gonna not give a. About what we say.

[Gary Brecka]

And like, on the plane here, we had like a good cry. We had a little private moment about just how, how excited that we are, how proud we are that our kids are on this journey with us. So my oldest daughter, my. My. My two sons and her all. All work with us full time. So we travel together, we see clients together. They're all in the business. My son has the H. The hydrogen tablet company. My daughter's launching a chemical free skincare line. She's launching chemical free clothing. And, and it's. So it's all under the umbrella, you know, and, and we work together, we travel together, we vacation together, and that is the greatest blessing in life. Like, we were just thinking we weren't fortunate for like the size of our audience or the monetary side of things, but just the fact that our adult children still love to hang out with us. They're all here in town. We're all in Nashville. My, My son's here. My daughter's here. She's here. And they're, they're. They're at their booths for their, you know, products for companies they founded that they're launching in the. In health space. And like, to me, that's the greatest, the greatest measure of success.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You know, kids want to be around you.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You'll know it one day.

[Gary Brecka]

Then you start to get inspired by your kids, parents.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

I completely get what they're saying.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

They're listening to me, young lady.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Telling you right now, young lady, you're gonna be sharing those private cries with your wife.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, we did, didn't we? It was just her and I on the plane, man. Nice little. Nice little cry. Nice cry.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

But you'll hit the last question.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah. What do you got?

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Four tiers. Start acting actually come up.

[Gary Brecka]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Everybody would do anything, even Gary Brecker for an ice cold Bud Light. But what would Gary breca do anything for? 4.

[Gary Brecka]

Wow, that's it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

You gonna tell him? Can't say.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Cancer. Family.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, give an example. What Josh, what Josh Pay was saying.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Josh had a great one. His was he would like to just be able to before like cameras existed, go back in time and be able to view anything he wanted. So like dinosaurs being able to see, I don't know what.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Live streaming.

[Gary Brecka]

Yes.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Supper. Yeah. The building of the pyramids.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Yeah, Building of the pyramids.

[Gary Brecka]

I, I, you know, I guess for me, you know my measure of, of of success now has been about impact. It's been about how, how many lives can this message land on? Right? And because I feel like the, the message is designed to educate people to inspire them to make a change. So what would I do anything for? I, I would do anything to amplify the message that gets people to make a transformation in their life. You know, positive transformation in their life. So if somebody listening to this podcast is like not going to give me a dime or log on to my Instagram or anything, but I'm going to take what he said, those four or five things, I'm going to start practicing those things in my daily life. That would be. Yeah, that would be something I do anything for to amplify that message.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Dude, I will tell you this. Obviously, I've known about you for a long time. And then getting to meet you at the super bowl, we have that little change of the wind thing happening where you had that bed slip.

[Gary Brecka]

Oh, that's how the craziest sequence of events, dude, we did Super Bond over that.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

He had this bet slip and he's like, I think my bed's dead. I was like, no, like, these four things happen. That bet will hit.

[Gary Brecka]

But it was like they had to have a kickoff and then return, but not score.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And then, then this happens. But basically he ends up hitting the bet. And I obviously knew about you. I was a fan before we even had that conversation. I get to meet your beautiful wife. We exchanged numbers. We've been talking for a long time.

[Gary Brecka]

Whoa, I didn't know you exchanged. More on that later.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Sorry about that. But we end up talking about, hey, we should come down to Miami. We should do all these things. It is honestly such a pleasure to have you on this bus and to have this conversation for two plus hours.

[Gary Brecka]

Whatever it's been, dude, thank you, man.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Because it has been awesome. It's awesome to see your movement. Movement. It's also going to take these little pieces that you give us and implement into our lives because you actually get to see the changes. So thank you for taking the time and coming on this bus.

[Gary Brecka]

Dude, that is awesome, man. No, I appreciate it too.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

Like, getting to sit with somebody two of your stature, like Taylor and I, like going back to the accountability buddy stuff, but just playing football and being so like, indirectly influenced by a lot of things that you do and people like in your industry, like, getting to sit two on one and have these conversations is really cool.

[Gary Brecka]

No, this is amazing, man. And I, I, I love this. Talking about this for a long time.

[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

My back, like, that's forever.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

Yeah. Like 10 weeks, we see each other at. We're like, we gotta do, we gotta do the pods. We'll do your. Paul, I'll do your. And then, you know, usually kind of just like a week goes by and we get busy.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

And you know what? Accountability, it's on me. I'm the one that always lets it fall through.

[Gary Brecka]

Yeah.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

But I'm happy we finally.

[Gary Brecka]

Dude, I'm so pumped too, man. This has been great, and I hope your audience gets a lot out of it. And I I am gonna from the day we start 10 weeks on the calendar. That's what I want on the calendar calendar and it's going to be life changing for you and we'll get back on and talk about it.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

I'm gonna go throw my back out tomorrow. I'm gonna throw my back out so.

[Gary Brecka]

I can be a part of legit.

[Bus with the Boys Host 1]

No thank you very much. Give a round Apostle Gabe Please subscribe, unsubscribe and then resubscribe again. Thank you so much. Big hugs.

[Gary Brecka]

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[Bus with the Boys Host 2]

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[Gary Brecka]

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