Josh Pate Breaks Down Winter Storm Fern + Are Indiana & Miami Here To Stay? | Bussin'

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys — Josh Pate Breaks Down Winter Storm Fern + Are Indiana & Miami Here To Stay?

Episode Air Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: Taylor Lewan (primary), Will Compton (absent), Mitch, Jack McPherson, Jeremy Klump
Guest: Josh Pate (College Football Analyst, Weather Enthusiast)

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Episode Overview

This episode rides through the chaos of Winter Storm Fern, traversing both storm coverage and college football. With Nashville paralyzed by a record ice storm, the "Bussin' With The Boys" crew gathers a skeleton squad—leaning into stories of neighborly support, destruction, eerie beauty, and weather nerdery thanks to guest Josh Pate. The second act returns to the gridiron, breaking down the national championship, analyzing programs like Indiana, Miami, Michigan, Alabama, and Ohio State, and forecasting what’s next. Woven through: classic "Bussin’" banter, plenty of “clean takes,” and unfiltered optimism for the tornado season ahead.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Surviving Winter Storm Fern: Chaos, Calm, and Community

(05:00–23:00)

• Host Taylor recounts the storm’s impact: mass power outages, impassable roads, widespread destruction, and the peculiar tranquility of a shut-down city.

  • “It's a weird beauty about it, but it takes so much away from all of us. I've never seen a storm like this in my entire life. It's one of the craziest things I’ve ever witnessed.” — Taylor (10:01)

• Community, compassion, and neighborliness:

  • Taylor helps charge his neighbor’s pacemaker (“just being there for people when they need you most” — 08:50)
  • Jack McPherson shelters friends and kids without power (11:14)
  • The crew shares “clean takes”—moments of darkness bringing out the best in people, and the eerie, unexpected calm of the city at a standstill (10:08–12:11)

• On-the-ground storm reports:

  • Mitch, Jack, and Jeremy compare notes on road conditions—Nashville’s response praised, but neighborhood streets “retired for now” until thaw (09:05–10:01)
  • Trees down everywhere, aerial photos look “like a tornado went through ... and there’s just ice everywhere.” (09:55)

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2. Weather Nerdom Unleashed: The Gospel According to Josh Pate

(38:58–75:00)

Josh Pate’s Weather Origin Story

(45:26–51:56)

• His childhood love for the Weather Channel, state capitals, and the tornado-chasing “Twister” era
• A wild family story: the “Tri State Crematorium” scandal—his grandfather’s remains never cremated, and a bitter ice storm tying into the misadventure — a “passion born of malpractice”
  • “You’re gonna think I’m making this story up … So we took, like, firewood ash ... and they come to find out his body’s just been stacked in this shed the whole time.” — Josh (48:06)

Storm Chasing: “The Rollercoaster, Sex & Haunted House” Analogy

(52:51–63:54)

• The thrill of the chase, chasing 14 tornadoes so far (“Want to get that up to 20 this year!”)
• Chasing with “the Sniffer” (Brad Arnold, power-rated #1 tracker)
• The risks: Can instantly switch from adrenaline to disaster, sometimes becoming a first responder after a storm’s path
• On seeing a tornado:
  • “If you combined cresting at the top of a rollercoaster ... with sex ... with the best haunted house you’ve ever been in—all thrown into one—that’s kinda like the adrenaline you get.” — Josh (61:15)
  • Taylor jokes about the pressure of bringing friends to experience something epic, knowing some chases turn up “nothing.”

The Science & Dangers of Ice Storms

(63:54–75:40)

• Why ice storms, not snow, are truly nightmare fuel for weather pros:

  • Trees and power lines weighted with hundreds of extra pounds of ice
  • Extensive, slow-to-repair damage (“You have to physically rebuild the infrastructure ... weeks, sometimes months.” — Josh, 74:56)
  • Describes freezing rain: The “warm nose” in the atmosphere lets rain fall as liquid, then freeze instantly on contact (68:48)
  • Transformers blowing = green/blue flashes = “little bombs all over Nashville” (70:24)

• Education Gap:

  • Josh advocates weather awareness classes in schools: “It’s guaranteed to impact everybody.” (66:57)
  • Hosts admit even locals didn’t really grasp the science until living through it.

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3. College Football Expanded: Indiana, Miami, and the Usual Heavyweights

(83:11–114:41)

Indiana vs. Miami: National Championship Reflections

(83:11–88:59)

• Both teams delivered “knockout blows” in a near-mythic game, but “the storm just wouldn’t let Miami out.”
  • “If you told [Cristobal] that morning, I’m going to give you the ball, first and ten midfield with a minute left down six—will you take that? I think he would.” — Josh (83:45)
  • Taylor: “It was beautiful. It was poetic ... two teams we haven’t seen in forever, or ever, in a national championship.”

Is Indiana Here to Stay?

(88:59–92:40)

• Josh: “I think they’re here. You can write their name on that fifth line in the Big Ten.”
• On team dynamics:
  • The chemistry on this title team may never be replicated, even as recruiting improves—Saban’s early-Bama teams cited as a parallel (selfless “what can I do for the team” dynamic hard to recreate)

Miami’s Outlook

(92:40–97:33)

• Miami is expected to “be there every year,” especially with Darian Mensah likely coming in at QB and Mario Cristobal’s system taking shape
• Quick turnaround defensively noted
• But, warns Josh: never lock in predictions before fall camp—“the path is more touch and go” compared to Indiana

Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, and National Expectations

(97:33–114:41)

• Michigan:

  • Loaded with “potential, not production”—Signetti’s mantra about trusting production over potential discussed
  • “At least now, there’s no ‘what’s going on behind the scenes’—it’s time to play ball.” — Josh (101:15)
  • Optimism about Kyle Whittingham’s influence after moving from Utah to Michigan

• Alabama:

  • Keelan Russell predicted to win the QB job; Austin Mack lauded for sticking around to develop; new O-line coach (from USC) brings hope for physicality
  • “What they want is ... to look like Miami looks on the line of scrimmage ... to be feared as a bully.” — Josh (106:31)

• Ohio State:

  • Arthur Smith (ex-Titans/Atlanta Falcons) is now OC; “Ohio State’s roster is better than some NFL rosters,” according to Smith.
  • Josh jokes: “You think if picking Option 5 for coordinator would keep you [Taylor] up at night, Ryan Day would do it? … 100%.”
  • Taylor: “Ryan Day is playing chess in my brain right now.”

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4. Tornado Season Preview: “We May End Up in Norman”

(114:41–117:32)

• Taylor and Josh plan a tornado chasing trip for the spring ("You and I ... joint private jet ... or helicopter access during a chase!")
• Josh: “Imagine private helicopter access—you're no longer handcuffed by winding roads, you just go after it.” (116:06)
• Taylor: “That sounds terrifying. I thought you were gonna say ‘buy a plane’ but, alright, a helicopter...I’ll do it!”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On storm beauty and destruction:
  • “There’s something about being downtown ... the city was so quiet and nobody on the roads. It was kind of like an eerie but cool feeling ... just see the city in its most raw form.” — Jeremy Klump (10:08)
• On power outages:
  • “When thunderstorms knock out the power ... NES is really good about getting that stuff back on ... With this, you have to physically rebuild the infrastructure of your power grid. You’re talking about weeks to potentially months.” — Josh Pate (74:56)
• On weather education:
  • “Weather awareness should be mandatory in school ... it’s guaranteed to impact everybody.” — Josh Pate (66:57)
• On the tornado chase rush:
  • “If you combined cresting a rollercoaster, with sex, with the best haunted house ... all thrown into one—that’s the adrenaline.” — Josh Pate (61:15)
• On Indiana’s rise:
  • “I think they’re here. You can write their name on that fifth line in the Big Ten.” — Josh Pate (88:59)
• On Alabama QB Ty Simpson’s old-school stay:
  • “I got respect for it. ... I was a captain at Alabama, I don't want to be looked back on as a guy that just threw that away and went elsewhere. That's such an old school way of thinking, I wish there was more of it.” — Josh Pate (104:13)
• On the will of Ohio State:
  • “Ohio State’s got the Ohio State offense. You’re gonna come here and run it. We’re gonna win. … It’s an ecosystem now.” — Josh Pate (110:16)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Storm Impact Stories & “Clean Takes”: 05:00–15:00
• Zips Restaurant Tangent & Friend “Food Pilgrimages”: 13:22–22:00
• UFC/Paramount Card, Commercial Break: (~23:00–32:00)
• Opening with Guest Josh Pate – Weather Nerding Begins: 38:58
• Josh’s Weather/Josh’s Grandpa Wild Story: 45:26–51:55
• Storm Chasing, “The Sniffer”, Tornado Adrenaline: 52:51–63:54
• Science of the Ice Storm, Aftermath: 63:54–75:40
• College Football National Title/Indiana-Miami: 83:11–88:59
• Big Ten “Fifth Spot” & Indiana’s Future: 88:59–92:40
• Miami’s Ceiling & Challenges: 92:40–97:33
• Michigan’s Potential vs. Production: 97:33–102:14
• Alabama QB Room, DeBoer, O-Line: 104:07–107:51
• Ohio State, Arthur Smith Hire, Ryan Day Trolls: 107:51–114:41
• Helicopter Tornado Dream, Farewells: 114:41–117:32

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Tone and Takeaways

The crew blends earnestness with a laid-back, locker-room camaraderie—even when delving deep into weather science or football analytics. Josh Pate brings nerdy zeal to storm explanations and college football forecasting, while Taylor keeps things grounded with humor and moments of genuine community sentiment. In the face of disaster, the “boys” find perspective, fun, and hope—whether charging a neighbor’s pacemaker or planning to chase tornadoes from a helicopter.

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For listeners:
This episode is equal parts survival podcast, weather masterclass, and CFB nerd-fest, packed with storytelling, laughter, and the assurance that even during weeks of literal storms, the bus keeps rolling for the boys (and the listeners).

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Transcript

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Julian Edelman]

I like the sound of that.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I.

[Julian Edelman]

Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there.

[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

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[Mitch]

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[Mitch]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

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[Jack McPherson]

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another wonderful episode of Busting with the Boys. This is episode 365 4. Episode 3644 and hey, listen, let's give everybody on this bus a round of applause. For those you have Internet connection or are willing to watch Bus with the boys on YouTube, please do me a favor and subscribe. And if you are already subscribed, send a text out to somebody letting know. Please just subscribe to Bus with the Boys. It helps us a whole bunch and allows us to keep doing this job at a very high level. And it's all thanks to our viewer. If you're listening to us, if you're sitting in a car right now. Appreciate you listening on Spotify, Apple, wherever you find your podcast, make sure you please following us for all of our episodes that come out Bus with the Boys is presented by FanDuel Sportsbook, America's number one sportsbook. Will has a read here. He's not here today. Now, if you're watching this on Tuesday, you ought to know that tonight is another Michigan vs. Nebraska showdown. Not football, but two very strong college basketball teams. Me, one slightly stronger than the other. I say looking at Will with piercing eyes. That's on the card. I just wanted to tell you that if you open up the FanDuel Sportsbook app today, you'll find a solid 50% Nebraska vs Michigan PBT. You can also get. You can also use that on whatever type of bet you want. But if you're rocking with the boys, you'll go with Michigan. Obviously, Will is going to go Nebraska, but we've also got a little side action going on here as well. Make sure you visit fanduel.com bus and opt into that promo and place yourself a bet on one of the biggest games in college football. If you guys want a little breakdown on those games, I gave it to you on Monday's recap. It's as much as I know about basketball, I gave you everything I had. I put my absolute heart out there. If you don't love it and you're a basketball lover, hey, listen, man, that's life. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Frank Sinatra said that first. Now, this weekend took place in Nashville, Tennessee. It took place all over the world. But in Nashville specifically, we had an ice storm. Hundreds of thousands of people are without power right now. We're putting them in our thoughts and prayers. We break all that down with our guest today. You'll see our guest, Josh Pate. He is a great weatherman. He knows all of the things. It's absolutely incredible. But our hearts go out to everybody that is dealing with power outages, food, supplies, staying warm. It's like it's a very difficult time on this bus. We've had a couple guys in the back right now. Jeremy Klump, Jack McPherson, Mitch Carsley. The boys are sitting back here. Made a trek just to get this podcast done. Why we love you. We love the viewer. We love this job. Will was unable to make it. A handful of other guys were able to make it. But we have a nice little skeleton crew to try to brighten up your day in terms of chaos. If you're one of the states, cities, places that have been affected by these insane storms, which seems like it's over half of the country that has gotten hit pretty hard this weekend or Wednesday. Last week, Will and I headed over to Samcom in la. It was a great time. We had Bud Light out there, Neutral is out there, first form. Sal Frisello was there. We had a great time. We had the opportunity to go on stage. We had ourselves a nice little script and what they're telling us about the SAMCOM event. It's a four or five day long week of everybody getting together. They're having a good time, they're breaking bread, they're having a couple of drinks. So this crowd is on their last day before SAMCOM is all over. We were told crowd might be a little stiff. Okay. They've had late nights, they've had early mornings. They're out there networking. Have a good time. Think of all the things you do when you're trying to network in LA for samcom. Will and I go out there. We have a script that we go over for about five minutes. Steve Wolf, he's out there helping with Neutral. And boys, I'll say we got a couple of good laughs. Got a couple of good laughs from a crowd that seemed like they weren't going to be a great crowd. Ended up being a phenomenal crowd. And the SAMCOM event was absolutely incredible. From that moment, we get done a little bit early. I have a flight leaving later in the afternoon to Vegas to spend one day there. We were going to do a whole vlog with Zufa, Boxing, gambling and obviously UFC 324 that took place on Paramount. But with these storms coming in, my wife and my two kids, they're at home, I want to make sure that I'm there for them. So my decision was, I'm already in la, I'll go for one night, I'll fly out the next day, get in and out. Boom. So I get on a quick flight, we cruise over there, hang out with Dana and the fellows. We get a nice fun night on our hands. I wake up the next morning, I jump on a plane and I'm so grateful that I jumped on that plane because Saturday happens, little bit of a storm, nothing too crazy. Sunday morning, power starts to go out everywhere. Ice starts to fall. It's a full breakdown. You'll hear with Josh Pate of how catastrophic the storm really was and how a lot of people from the North. I lived in the north for four years, being at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. Snow falls all the time. There's always winter storms taking place in the North. People just understand how to operate with snow. And Nashville, as much as I've been here, we've gotten better and better at the snow part. This Not a snowstorm. This is an ice storm. And it's incredibly chaotic and beautiful at the same time. And I say that in a weird way because there's so much chaos. People's lives are being so affected. I woke up this morning seeing trees drooped down by ice. And there's such a level of calm with all the power outages taking place with no cars on the road, that it's a weird beauty about it, but it takes so much away from all of us. It's just insane, man, to see all these people being affected. And it truly sucks. But I'm glad I got left the west to get back to my family because I would feel horrible if I was not there with them. So I guess we're gonna start off with a little clean take. Clean take to have a clean take real quick. And I think that's just being there for people when they need you most. Being there for people when they need you most. I have a neighbor who has a pacemaker. Their power is out. We're lucky enough to have a generator at our house. So our house is, for the most part powered, but we're the only one I feel like within a mile that has. Unless they have a generator as well that has power. My neighbor has a pacemaker that needs to be charged. So this morning, before I even got there, I came to the shop, my wife sends me a text, hey, you gotta go to the neighbor's house, you gotta grab their pacemaker so we can charge it for them. In order for him, essentially, this guy's gotta stay alive. And we get there, him and his wife, they meet me at the door, they're kind of explaining to me, hey, we appreciate you guys doing this, but easy exchange. Grab the pacemaker, plug that thing in. Once I get back from the shop, I'll go bring it back to them. But just in times of chaos, in times of all a bunch of bad things happen to a lot of people, to be able to help is just. It's a. It's a very nice feeling. And I'm. I would only hope that if somebody else was in the position that I was in, that they would do the same thing for me. All the boys have rallied around each other. The group chat's been firing off. Boys have been checking in on each other. A lot of guys don't have power. Jack McPherson, one of the lucky few to have power right now. But Jeremy Klump, making the trek, 30 minutes. How was that little drive, buddy? Was that just insane?

[Mitch]

It really actually wasn't.

[Jack McPherson]

Bad at all.

[Mitch]

I have one. One, like, back road I got to go through was pretty cleared off. And then I'm mostly highway the whole way here. And the highway was pretty good. Outside of what's the. All the way to the left lane that you guys have, the hov, they just decided to. Not even. They didn't touch it. That one is just. That's ruined. I don't know when that'll ever be a lane again in Nashville, but it's. It's retired for now. But there's like two lanes wide open. The worst road is the one right here.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, this road right here on the outside.

[Mitch]

Dude, terrible.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That's the worst road. Other than that, like I was driving through all over the city trying to get over here. There's a bunch of trees knocked down, but the roads themselves are actually in a good spot. National's done a great job of kind of like rallying the troops and working their ass off to get things powered back up.

[Mitch]

The trees are crazy. I think it might have been your wife who shared a story on Instagram of like an aerial view of Nashville.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Possibly.

[Mitch]

Dude.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Oh, it's just crazy. It looks like a tornado went through.

[Mitch]

It literally looks like a tornado through. And there's just ice everywhere.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

It's nuts, ma'. Am. It really is. I've never seen a storm like this in my entire life. It's one of the craziest things I've ever witnessed.

[Jeremy Klump]

Clean take for me. Like I live closer to downtown, so there's something like obviously, don't get me wrong, this storm, everybody losing power, like it 100% sucks and like it's going to take a long time for everything to get back to normal. But like being downtown and where I'm at, like, I have like a view of like the skyline. The city was so quiet and nobody on the roads. It was kind of like an eerie but cool kind of feeling. Cuz you're just looking around be like, this is like a hustling, a bustling city. Like there's always cars going by, sirens and everything, but it was just dead quiet. It was actually kind of like a cool thing to just kind of stand out on my balcony and just like feel like. Just see the city in its most raw form.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

Clean take on like eerie feelings about a city.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Clean take in moments of chaos. Finding a bit of beauty. Finding a bit of beauty. That's a clean take, Mitch. I like that take what he said. That's a. That's a Kevin natural food. Clean take right there. I Love it a lot. Beautiful. Do you boys got any clean takes? Clean takes out here? I don't.

[Jack McPherson]

I. I would double down with yours is clean take. Just take every opportunity you can to help people out. I like you said, I was one of the fortunate ones. I did not lose power. People very close to me lost power two streets away. So almost feels like the grid system shut off right before mine started. Which was great. But we. I live next door to one of my really good friends, two of them actually. And thankfully us not having power. We were able to host and welcome in a bunch of our friends who didn't have power. Didn't have he. They have kids. We had babies running around. So we were just kind of mixed between we're calling a house a and house baby and just, just letting it rip. Everyone's bringing what they have, their food, their blankets and so when you just have an opportunity to, to get the community together through like kind of a stressful and chaotic time, take every opportunity you can. Just lend a helping hand.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Nice clean take Jack. Clean take clump. Don't this up now we got clean takes going everywhere.

[Mitch]

Kevin's natural foods clean take is when you go on a trip or you do something and there's like those memorable moments that just stick out in your head. And for me, for Samcom, when we went, there's a moment when, when Taylor looks at me and he's like, if my day is gonna be bad, I'm gonna ruin someone else.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Mitch]

And I. There's just that vibe of having fun in those moments. Like I just kept playing that story back in my head the whole weekend, the whole week I guess. And it was fun. So.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. Because the trip, like flying out to LA this time of year when we're still like in the very busy part, it was extremely inconvenient. There's no way around like club's playing the optimism game. We go out to dinner. I got, I have my gout scares that have. Have stopped me from like really eating certain kinds of foods. So I go to this dinner with all the Silver Tribe boys and I'm looking at the menu, I throw the menu to Chat GPT. It's like you can't eat any of this. Maybe some salad. That's about it. So we leave the dinner for like a two hour dinner and I'm starving and we, we get the car, man. And it's like overtired giggles and I'm just like, man, fuck this. I'm gonna make sure everybody else's day around me is ruined for the next 24 hours. We ended up having a good time, though. It was fun, good time.

[Mitch]

And then Will was trying to ruin your day. Then it flipped like, the next day because he was.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, it was on some shit. I can't remember what he was saying.

[Mitch]

But we were arguing about food.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

And Will took a crazy shot at Zips when I. Well, I took a shot at Nashville about, like, the food. And I was like, there's not like a good, healthy, like, quick spot you can go to around Nashville, like, or a multitude of areas that, like, elevate, like, high diet, like a high living. Dining in Nashville. Tops at the tops, like fast food, like fried chicken, unique places. Tops the tops. But where's that middle class? Like, I want to go to my local bar, my local sports bar kind of hangout area and just really feel it all and, like, enjoy it. And I was like, Zips would change everything for Nashville. What am I off on that, Jack?

[Jack McPherson]

I mean, there, I. Don't get me wrong, I love Zips. The focaccia, the wings. You can't beat it.

[Julian Edelman]

Can't beat it.

[Jack McPherson]

Especially under that Arizona sun. No ice. But there are a handful of, like, Jonathan Sports bar. Amazing. I mean, it's franchise here. Great. It has upscale dining, good beers, TVs everywhere.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

See you.

[Jack McPherson]

You don't even want to have a conversation about this because your mind is made up. I agree with you that Zips would change it, but there are options here. You just don't get out.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Jonathan's Grill, It's a sports bar.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Never heard of it.

[Jeremy Klump]

Why don't you just.

[Jack McPherson]

There's like three locations in the greater Nashville area, but I feel like you don't get out that much. Like, you're not Taylor, Juan. You're not going to find Taylor one at a local national sports bar.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

If there was a Zips, I would be there. So twice a week.

[Jeremy Klump]

Let me ask you this. Why. Why don't you become a franchise, Franchisee, franchise owner, franchiser, and just bring one out here?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I would love Zips would approach me with that idea. I would absolutely love to bring a Zips to Nashville.

[Jeremy Klump]

Is there, like, a reason it's only in Arizona or is there like.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Oh, you're. You're talking about the storyline of Zips. So there's a bar called Goldie's that is over by a bunch of baseball fields in Arizona. Goldie's is the OG Zips. I don't know what happened if there was a breakup that took place, but they are the OG like, golden wing type of spot that you go to, and you're like, my God, it's incredible. They had a nice little arcade in the corner. That corner, like the old, old school. Like you put the Simpsons game, couple of like California cruising type of games, but like, very basic. But you go there after the baseball games, go eat there. Somewhere in the mid-2000s, I think, like, zips just started popping up all over the place. I'm definitely getting my timeline wrong, but it seems like it's just an Arizona staple now. If this Arizona staple wants to venture over across the country, over to the east and hang out in Nashville, Tennessee, buddy, call me. I am in. I am all in on a zips coming to Nashville.

[Jack McPherson]

I feel like if you want zips, you've got to call them.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I'll call them.

[Jack McPherson]

I know, but like, like, legitimately, this.

[Jeremy Klump]

I am getting so hungry and want a focaccia and golden wings, extra sauce, extra crispy.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Could you imagine like a zip in the middle of Germantown?

[Jack McPherson]

Would you be worried, though, that something would be lost in the move? Like, if you move the franchise or like a franchise here, do you think it changes? Like, does the flavor taste different because you're in Arizona?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Good question. I don't think the flavor tastes different. I would take. I would essentially go down and find the best chefs of Zips and be like, take me through your process. So when we have to go train these individuals in Nashville, we got to make them so passionate about a Monaco focaccia and the zips golden wings that they don't miss a step. The only way to be successful in business, to have like minded people with similar passions towards what you're trying to build, that's what make things happen. And if we can find a few chefs out there that can make zips wings, which I'm telling you, delicacy, delicacy. You get that done, boys were operating. So Will is being a. Is basically what we're saying.

[Mitch]

Hearing Mitch just say how he's like, craving that makes me believe even more that zips would rock here.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Zips would Rick.

[Mitch]

Hearing someone speak about food that way, especially, no offense, Mitch. Mitch is like a pickier eater.

[Jeremy Klump]

Oh, for sure. Like, no offense taken.

[Mitch]

Hearing him just say that he wants that makes me. Makes me fired up.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Dude. One of the greatest feelings I've ever had in my life. In my life and is when we were all in Arizona and it's like basically the whole squad's there and I. I've been talking. Yeah. At the super Bowl. I've been talking and talking and talking about zips and how great it is. And then the moment comes where I take them to my specific zips that I know is going to deliver. Every belly was full, every heart was happy, and every soul was cleansed. And I walked away. I sat in the back of that car on the way to wherever we were going next, looking out the window, smiling, knowing I just did God's work for my boys.

[Jack McPherson]

And there's a moment too, where, like, as you've just explained, it's like, what if they're having an off day and my whole reputation is out the window?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Right? Because you only get one bro.

[Jack McPherson]

Because that truly I. If I think of all time greatest meals I've shared with my brothers, that goes up there. That's. That's. That's right up there.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

It's up there.

[Jack McPherson]

And everything delivered that you said. And I love ordering with Taylor, especially at a place where he knows what to order, because you just sit back, relax, and just let them take the.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Driver that, hey, that's a clean take.

[Jack McPherson]

That's a clean.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That's a clean take. Sit.

[Jack McPherson]

Don't even look at the menu.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

When you have the pressure of, like, what am I going to get? A couple of things look kind of good, but I really don't know because the first time someone's like, hey, do you guys want to do family style? And you're like, yeah, I'll do family size. Like, do you mind if I just start going to the specific you want? You're like, I'd like this. Like, no problem. And they order everything and you just sit back and ingest cuisine. Clean, clean take.

[Jack McPherson]

If you've ever. Another clean take. If you ever have the pleasure of dining with Taylor at a family style meal, you will never go away from that spot feeling hungry.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Oh, yeah, buddy. Oh, yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

That's a pretty good compliment.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Mitch]

Which is so funny considering you left family style food. They're just so hungry.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. Like duck high and peering. Steak high and peering. They brought pizzas. I'm thinking to myself, 20, 26, I'm still on the grind. Can't be no pizza. But yeah, dude, if we, if we go to eat and I know, like, hey, like, we're not doing a split bill thing. I'm gonna pay for dinner. Like, I don't want people to be like, oh, I kind of want. They'd be sick to try the prime rib. It's like, no, bro, two of them. We're doing this, we're doing that. Like, Whenever we go to out to Vegas to eat, and it's like, brother, we're putting a. Like, there's gonna be multiple dishes that might not be touched. Right. We're talking about first world problems type of living. Okay. Because I want my boys to be fed and happy and healthy. Maybe not so healthy because of what the Zips does.

[Jeremy Klump]

But I'm telling you, I honestly think if we reached out to Zips, like, we could. You could bust in with the boys, could legitimately get it out here.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, I agree. If they're interested in partnering with us and we could franchise a Zips out here. Nashville will never be the same. It'll be the boom. It'll be the boom. Unreal.com. boom. AI boom.

[Jeremy Klump]

Would we get our all, like. Would there be like a Jack Mack Fakasha?

[Josh Pate]

Oh, wow.

[Jeremy Klump]

A Clump curse.

[Josh Pate]

Fakasha.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Clump curse.

[Jack McPherson]

Wings would go crazy.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, they're super energy Vampire margarita.

[Josh Pate]

Like, the worst ones that could.

[Jeremy Klump]

That would be something.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Hey, we would have some specialities. What I'd also like to do if this was a bus with the boys type of thing, makes you, like, a lot of things unique to it. Like, I will put the jerseys. We'll have a classic sports bar feel, but everybody would have, like, a tag on their booth. Like, there would be a boot, like a McPherson booth.

[Jeremy Klump]

His boys could be a Susquehanna jersey in the raft.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

They. We'd have to have a Susquehanna jersey in the rafters, dude. And also, like, I'm. You guys know that your boy's not a big boozer anymore. But the Zipper readers, they make there any person that's had a beverage at Zips and they've had a Zipperita. Life changing. Life changing. And we'd add a little Nashville to it as well. Out outdoors, have a little bit of some cornhole going on. Outdoor games. You can have a little fun while eating a Monoco focaccia with that extra jalapeno dipping sauce. Are you. Are you me right now, dude?

[Jack McPherson]

I'll tell you right now, one neighborhood that desperately needs a good sports bar is Wedgwood, Houston, where I live.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

And that might be the best spot, too.

[Jack McPherson]

Telling you, it's up and coming. Something to think about.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Something to think about.

[Jack McPherson]

God, I'm so hungry right now, buddy.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Hey, I never had this.

[Mitch]

And I wanted.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Bro, I'm telling you. And I wouldn't want to take you to the Nashville one just yet. I want to make sure I gotta take you to Via Day, Ventura and Hayden and get you in the corner at that zips. Because I'm telling you. Because when I sit with you, I let the. I let the waitress know. Like, honey, sweetheart, baby, I eat here like once a year. And when I come in here, I eat the die. Like I'm trying. I'm trying to gorge myself. Tell the chef in the back to add a little extra love to all these dishes, because I need this. And you know what they do? Every time they smile, they give me a wink. And the food's perfect. The food's perfect.

[Jeremy Klump]

Clean take. When a, When a waitress says, like, I got you, I'm gonna take care of you. And then they actually follow through.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, that is a good clean. That tip goes crazy. That tip goes nuts.

[Jack McPherson]

Goes from 20 to whatever.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, to whatever. Sometimes, dude, when I go to zips. Because, hey, not only is it delicious, it's also affordable. I'll match the bill with the tip. I'll match it. If they do what you just said, Mitch, I'm going to take care of you. Don't worry about it. You said what? It's a clean flex. It's a clean flex. Clean flex. You got to have it, dude. Got to have it. Let's just. Let's break down UFC 324 on Paramount Real quick. All right. We interrupt this episode to bring you Jim Beam the postseason upon us. And there's really nothing like it. But the postseason can be stressful. Crushing losses, wild upsets, your unhinged six game parlay falling apart at the literal last second. Things can get rough and they can leave you feeling a bit sour. But you got to look at the bright side, ladies and gentlemen. Once your team is out and headed to decompress, you can finally relax. Now you can actually enjoy the postseason without all the heart palpitations. That's why we're partnering with Jim Beam. We want to help you turn that lemon of a loss into delicious Jim Beam and lemonade. Because it's really the perfect bevy for the off season. It's refreshing, it's got the perfect sweetness and a little bit of tang on your tongue. Best paired with stress free watching when your team is out. So gather the boys, grab some Jim Beam and lemonade to make the rest of the postseason just a little bit sweeter. Refresh your season with Jim Beam and lemonade. Best enjoy together. Please drink responsibly. Jim Beam Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey. 40 alcohol by volume 2025. James B. Beam Distiller Company, Claremont, Kentucky. Also UFC and Paramount. The last card that came this weekend, absolutely incredible. They started this new relationship. UFC and Paramount on a bang dude, they crush it. New era of UFC on Paramount plus continues with UFC 325 live from Australia. Catch featherweight champion Al Alexander Volonovsky and a rematch of his epic title fight against Diego Lopez. Love Diego Lopez. Love both these guys. That first fight was absolutely incredible and always the dangerous Dan Hooker throws down with dynamic finisher Ben sent in this and a high action lightweight showdown. UFC fans pay per view just got knocked out. Stream UFC 325 live on Saturday, January 31st only on Paramount plus the new home of everything UFC. You can check out full length replays, pre fight docu series like UFC Countdown and UFC Embedded and the UFC library that's filled with epic events from years past. Catch all the action from the Octagon and stream every fight live with one subscription. Visit paramountplus.com UFC to get started. That's paramountplus.com UFC let's get back to this episode.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman.

[Julian Edelman]

From Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy?

[Josh Pate]

Like the workout?

[Julian Edelman]

You can't tell.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I mean for your chips.

[Julian Edelman]

Oh, I knew that. Yeah, of course.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You gotta try this new Daisy's French Onion Dip. Goes great on Sundays.

[Julian Edelman]

Daisy, like the sour cream brand?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yup. That's how you know it's gonna be fire. I use their sour cream all the time. Goes perfect with my taco Tuesday dinner.

[Julian Edelman]

Oh, Jules the chef. I love it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yep, and now I've added the Daisies French onion dip to my Sunday spread. They make it with all natural herbs and spices.

[Julian Edelman]

I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That reminds me, they also have Daisy's Ranch dip.

[Julian Edelman]

Now you're speaking my language. Sundays on the couch just got even better.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yup, seems like a no brainer on game day. So get out there and give the French onion dip a try. You won't regret it.

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Our bellies are hungry. But you know, it's not the viewership on ufc. Man, they absolutely crushed this Paramount thing that people were saying a couple things about commercials taking place where the walkouts are happening to me, dude, it's 8.99. Quit bitching.

[Mitch]

And I didn't notice any commercial. Like I, I know. I saw so many people complain about that.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Right?

[Mitch]

Bro, it was like a normal, it felt like a normal flow was awesome.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. No, how do you, how do you.

[Mitch]

Complain for not having to pay for.

[Jack McPherson]

A pay per view? Yeah, I feel like most of the commercials that I was noticing that it's kind of like out of the ordinary was it'd be like a picture in picture where they'd still have the broadcast going in a smaller screen and then they throw up said advertising, which never bothers me. I'm, you know, running to grab something or you know, I can go take it.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Right. And let's not forget what commercials do for us. It gives us an opportunity to look at our phones, check in with people. If it's non stop action over and over again, it's like watching a movie. It's like, I can't wait to talk about this when it's over. Now you get a little break here and there to. To talk about it.

[Jeremy Klump]

You see the new way they're doing their bonuses?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, the bonuses are money. So what are they doing? $100,000 for Fight of the Night. And if you finish somebody, it's a 20 extra 25,000. So if you finish somebody in a UFC fight, the person that finished the individual, they get $25,000 on top of what are on top of what they're already making. So now we're back into the rising tide lifts. All boats. UFC fighters are loving this Paramount fight is Paramount plus deal. Because their games now also get elevated. Their pockets are getting elevated. And this dude, this, this fight did not disappoint at all Sugar. Sean o'. Malley.

[Jack McPherson]

Song yadong.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Song yadong. Back and forth. People are a little upset because they think Sean o' Malley should have not won that fight.

[Jack McPherson]

I think it was set up for a comeback. I mean, really, if Sean lost that fight, his career in the ufc, by no means is it over.

[Josh Pate]

Right?

[Jack McPherson]

But it absolutely is in jeopardy for. For being main event card worthy, because that would be his third loss in a row. Who knows what it is? I. I think I love seeing Sean win. I think America loves seeing Sean win.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Friend of the show.

[Jack McPherson]

Friend of the show. But, man, that hundred thousand dollar five bonus has to be going to Patty and. And Justin Gaethje.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

There's no doubt.

[Jack McPherson]

And hopefully it goes straight to Patty because as he says, Scousers do not get knocked out, and he did not. I mean, truly, that dude. I mean, an absolute warrior. It's like every opportunity Justin Gaethje had to knock him out and could have, it feels like. And Patty just. I mean, relentless.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Relentless. Was creative in his attacks. Yeah, she just kept coming in, head down, getting into the body a little bit, hit him multiple times. We're talking about temple shots, jaw shots. There was a graphic that came up, and it was like, significant hits, and it shows the body.

[Commercial Narrator/Voiceover]

Yeah.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

54. I think we're in the third round. 54 significant hits to the head for Patty the baddie. And he's still getting up. His face, my God, at the end of the fight, looked crazy. But even when he's sitting there, and I love how they do the corners and they can hear the people talking about what the strategy is and all that, Patty's talking normal during, like, he. While his face is all deformed, he's still going out there and fighting, swinging his ass off. Gaethje, dude, a lot of credit to him. There's a lot of rumors about him possibly hanging up the gloves, putting the gloves on the canvas when it was all finished. He obviously did not do that. He is the interim belt now. Well, I can't wait to see what happens with him. One of my favorite things about ufc, after these big fights take place, whoever the winner is, a bunch of new lore or old memories come out. And one thing I saw was somebody tried to mug Justin Gaethje at gunpoint one time in a car. And Justin Gaethje, the. The news report was showed the mugger and their face was destroyed. And this person pulled a gun on Gaethje. Gaethje disarms the man and beat the shit out of him.

[Jack McPherson]

Like, what That's a dream scenario. As a UFC fight.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Dream scenario.

[Jack McPherson]

Go ahead and try me.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yes. Right, dude. And he's got a crazy quote. He was doing like a podcast one time and he's like, if one man can hold you down to two can rape you. He said that publicly. And I'm watching it. And after you watch Gaethje fight, you're. You're looking at going, holy shit, he's right. He's right. I see the room got a little stiff when I read that up. All right. Jesus Christ, boys.

[Mitch]

Post fight was awesome too. Of that one, he said something to. To Patty along the lines of, like, Patty mentioned pre fight that he's going to bust his face up or we'll see how your face looks. And he's like, looks like your face is the one bust up or something cool like that. Just like in the moment, to even have that ready to go is sick. I like Patty because if I'm him, I probably would have been complaining a little more about that thumb to the eye. I think that really messed multiple.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

And he.

[Mitch]

I'm so surprised. Post fight he wasn't like that. That really impacted the fight. He lost with class. Said like, Justin Gaethje's a legend. It was all.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

It was awesome growing up to watch him. That takes a moment. Takes a good probably minute, minute and a half just to talk about men's mental health.

[Mitch]

Awesome.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, Patty seems like a. Patty seems like a really good dude.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

All time guy.

[Jeremy Klump]

Just the Scottish accent is legendary.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

Clean take.

[Jack McPherson]

He's not Scottish.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

He's a Scouser scout.

[Jack McPherson]

It's from Liverpool is what Scousers are.

[Jeremy Klump]

That may be the best accent of all time.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That might be up there. That's a take.

[Jeremy Klump]

Australians up there.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Australians might not have the clean take because that. That's a lot of opinions out there. Australian accent goes hard. Just accents in general.

[Jack McPherson]

If you've never seen the viral video, it's been around a lot.

[Josh Pate]

But it.

[Jack McPherson]

It's a ring doorbell footage.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Jack McPherson]

And Patty the baddie shows up and he's like, hello, miss. He's like, my dog just took a messy sloppy out here. He's like, do you have a bag? And she's like, is that party the bat? He's like, don't worry about it, sweetheart. I'll be there. I'll clean. He's like, are you sure? It's a really sloppy. It's like, dude, a guy just going.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Up on the ring to clean up his own solid accent too. Jack kind of like killed right there. Kind of swung me on that.

[Mitch]

One of the best actors.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Jack McPherson]

But, yeah, I. I can appreciate a man who's willing to clean up his dog when. When no one is looking.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. What do you do behind closed doors? Right. The true character of a man right there. I like it. So. But this. I mean, obviously, we. We did. We're doing an ad read for Paramount plus and UFC in this episode, and it just seems like they have just fight after fight after fight. It's there. It's gonna be a hell of a year for ufc. A hell of a year. Zufa boxing as well. I know Dana just started that this year. Their first fight was on Friday. Went really well for them. They're really excited. He was on the podium talking about how people are gonna look back at the end of this year and be. I can't believe they did that in one year of this boxing. So Dana, maybe the greatest fight promoter of all time. He's now taking steps on. Steps on. Steps just adding to the legacy that is Dana White. It's absolutely beautiful. Let's talk about the guest seat that we have sitting right here. This Bud Light cake we got are one of the best guests we have. On busting with the boys. You might have heard a lot of rumors that are taking place about should Bud Light put a bunch of different kegs and Gillette and Lumen. Those are the stadiums for both the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots. And a lot of. Because both these guys are in the Super Bowl. Sources are telling. Busting with the boys right now. Hold on, dude. This. Can you zoom this in? I can't read that at all. Possible. Okay. Sources are telling bus one with the boys right now that there might be kegs, possibly cakes, along with a lot of prizes put in these stadiums with announcement as soon as Wednesday. So, boys, keep your eyes on that Bud Light socials. You look at the Bud Light socials and you're in the New England or Seattle area, know that Lumen and Gillette Stadium quite possibly are getting Bud Light kegs along with a bunch of prizes as well. Bud Light socials will tell you those things. And with that being said, I have to read.

[Jeremy Klump]

You know. It's also brought to you by Bud Light is this interview.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

What's also brought to us by Bud Light is this interview. Bud Light is brewed with four simple ingredients for a clean, crisp taste. Bud Light is the official sponsor of the NFL, the NFL Draft, tight end user university, the UFC, and Shane Gillis's 2025 tour. Even though it's 2026. Bud Light partners include Peyton Manning, George Kittle, Baker Mayfield, Emmett Smith, Shane Gillis, Post Malone, Dustin Poirier. Do me a favor, stock up on Bud light. Head to www.budlight.com locator to find a store near you. Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Our guest today is none other than the commissioner of college football, Josh Pate. We have an amazing breakdown on this weather that's taking place in the southeast and the Northeast, this half of the country. The ice, how that all, dude, it's a very educational episode. We go, we dive into Josh Pate's other passion aside from college football as well.

[Jeremy Klump]

The weather convo is actually like really cool to hear. Like, I feel like we could do an entire episode just with him talking about weather.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Did we? Basically we touched on college football. Indiana, Oregon, Miami, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State. So lots to talk about. There is a story you're going to hear about Josh Pate's grandfather. It is absurd to the point where you think to yourself, this is not real. And he said before, hey, when I tell you the story, you're gonna think it's not real. I've, I heard the story. I think it's not real. But also, Josh Pate's never been a liar to me. So that being said, please enjoy this again. The boys worked their ass off to get you here and to get you this episode. We could have sat back, said, hey, we're not gonna do it. Brains got together last night in the 11th hour and we decided we're gonna roll one. Not for us, but for you, the viewer. So to all of you that do watch this episode, this one's for you. We appreciate you. We hope if you're in Nashville or any spot that's been hit by the weather really hard that you are safe, you are fed, and your family is happy. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Please enjoy this episode.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman.

[Julian Edelman]

From Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules.

[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Julian Edelman]

We're teaming up with Liquid IV and posting up at a Liquid IV nut house leading up to the big game.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We'll be there all week bringing you content you don't want to miss.

[Julian Edelman]

And honestly, it makes perfect sense. The big game week is long and busy, so hydration is key, especially for us because we like to have a good time.

[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

So, along with their February 8th big game event that we're teasing, our show has a ton of great content coming up that Liquid IV is making possible.

[Julian Edelman]

And in the meantime, check us out on YouTube or on Instagram. And don't forget to tune into dudes on dudes on the Iheart app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Boom. Well, just me and Mitchie here, but let's give Josh Peter round applause. Mitchie, just a quick little nice clap. He made it. He did it. He got it all done. We were just discussing the un over of who was going to make it to the shop today and we clearly hit the over. So we have clump, we got Jack, we got Jared, we got Sherm, we got Mitch and we. That's it.

[Josh Pate]

Right?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

And myself. So six guys made to the shop, obviously, you see to my right, we're missing our special boy. Our special boy is gone. Our hearts are with him. He has one area in his house where he can get some sort of cell signal out. Last night he started firing off texts and I'm thinking to myself, buddy, we've, we've handled this, but all good. And he's. He's just panic texting over and over and over again.

[Josh Pate]

Should we just call this the Will Compton Memorial episode? Even though he's still alive.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

It has to. It should absolutely be. Because you could, dude, you could feel it. I don't know why he would just send me a text randomly. Like, you get this. I'm like, yeah, I got it. And there was a few hours there where I was the only person he could text. And it was the most communication I was able to have with Will outside of busing with the boys in three years. You just tell he's going stir crazy. He's losing his mind a little bit in that house all by himself.

[Josh Pate]

You can see when the flame on the end of the stick starts to die out and the wolves close in and, and there's no, there's no more time for shields or emotional fences. You just kind of, you spill your heart out because you kind of know this is it. That's been, that's been William over the past 48, right?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

It's so fun for him when he's at Target and he's doing the content online. What's the self service kicked out. He's like, oh, no, wait, wait, you.

[Josh Pate]

Mean, you mean, you mean. I don't just get to have all fun with this with no contact.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Dude, Will literally thought to himself, I could probably lose power, we could lose food, toiletries, everything, but at least I got wi fi no matter what. And I think it was the one and only thing that went down for him. But he, dude, he, he had a clip and I hope we put it in the show of him driving. And he's like, the roads are bad. Don't go on the roads. I, I'm the guy that when a tornado's outside, I'm the dad that walks outside and has to see the tornado. And I'm, I'm literally watching the video outside of my house, trying to feed my animals and stuff like that, thinking. All I want to do is just kind of figure out what these roads are really like right now. And it's the curiosity. So it's a, it's a big reason why women live so much longer than men. We just. The dumb curiosity. But I digress. I want to give you the floor for a second because this week you've done an incredible job of giving Will and I updates of just saying, hey, this is what's going in. You're talking using big words about different graphs that are saying different things. They're the ones you believe in. It's headed north now. It's back south, but it's definitely gonna head back north again. We're a team. We're in the trenches. It's been a trench talk all year long in 2025 about Josh Pate being in the trenches. Now you're no longer in Nashville and you've. You fled south. The rumor is Josh Pate fled south because he was afraid of the weather. And I'd love for you to just speak to the masses on kind of that narrative being written about you across the nation right now. I would never say that about you, by the way. I want you to know that you're my guy. I would never say that about you.

[Jeremy Klump]

Club said that.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Club said that.

[Josh Pate]

One of those. This is one of those rare instances where the narrative's true. I wrote the narrative. I told you guys. So about a week ago, I started smartening you up to the fact that, hey, the midterm long range models are showing some stuff for us. And at that point, the stuff was just going to be historic snowfall. And we were going to. At one point, me and Clump talked about doing this show today in the parking lot, pretending that we didn't have power so we could just dead sell. The fact that we were gathered around a campfire in the parking lot with like inch an hour snowfall rates piling up in our lap. That was fun. Those were the old days, right? That was a while back. Okay, then. Then a different word started to work itself into the equation. Ice. Now, people will look at what Nashville is going through right now, who grew up, up north, and say, oh, I'm used to that. Complete bs. No one's used to ice storms. No one gets used to ice storms. Now, since I have been immersed in weather my whole life, I know what a crippling ice storm is like. So I don't run from tornadoes. In fact, you know, I run towards tornadoes. I chase them in the spring. It's my second favorite page passion. I don't flee hurricanes. I actually, when Hurricane Matthew, which was our last cat 5 US land falling hurricane, hit in the Florida paninthe or the Florida shore, I went down there. So I don't run from any kind of weather. Only weather I will actively run from is an ice storm because it gives you the damage that a tornado gives you. You've seen the trees, so it looks like tornado damage. Basically, it's just way more widespread. And you're so powerless when power goes out, you're literally powerless. So I knew, and I told you guys about 72 hours ago, I don't like the way this is trending. If the GFS model doesn't make a good solid comeback here in the 11th hour. The euro is going to win. That's why they call it King Euro. That's why they call the model King Euro this time of year. And if we were going to get what it looked like we were going to get, which we ended up getting, I don't want to be a part of it. So I don't think that there's any shame in being in relatively normal 41 degree Columbus, Georgia in the AC Hotel conference room right now, which was graciously given to me for this recording. And now the question becomes, when do I come back? Do I come back? Is there a home left?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That's the question.

[Josh Pate]

We will rebuild. We. We. Hashtag. We will rebuild. It's going to be a long and arduous process, dude.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

So, okay, I want to this, this podcast we, we can break down a little bit of college football, but I really want to know the weather. Where did the passion come from? What the hell is gfs? You talk about the Euro winning. I'm thinking democracy's done the domestic dollar. Like I like there's so many things. And you made a point when, when we were out, we traveled to LA for the samcom and you would hit Will and I in the group chat and Will would say something like, we're warriors, blah, blah, blah, we're going to batten down the hatches. And I would just be like, okay, thank you. And you'd hit us back with Will's always got like some sort of profound like quote from Gladiator. And Taylor just says the most generic response back because I'm reading your text and I'm thinking to myself, I gotta funnel this all the way through chat GPT just to figure out what the hell he's saying. I just know I sped snow. Good. I'm a Neanderthal in this whole thing. So where did Josh Pate's passion? Because every story you have is so unique, even the way you found college football without even playing football in high school. Where did the passion of of weather come into play?

[Josh Pate]

All right, so when I was growing up, I went to school technically out of district. So I grew up in Harris County, Georgia, which is just north of Columbus, but it's just over the Chattahoochee river, which means it's just over the state line into Georgia. It was in my best interest to go to school in Phoenix City, Alabama, so I could stay at Memaw's house in the afternoon until my parents got off work. So I went to school over in Phoenix City until someone turned us in years later. And that's it. Own separate story. So anyway, when I would get off school, I would go over to Meemaw's house and I would either watch SportsCenter or I would watch the Weather Channel or both. I. And I watched like some Nickelodeon, like some stuff like that. But mainly I just watched ESPN and I watched the Weather Channel. And about that time, that's. I'm a, I'm a little kid in the mid-90s. That's kind of when I first remember watching TV or anything like that. That's kind of when Twister came out. So the concept of people storm chasing really captured me and I got sucked in. Side note, there was a, there was a timing my kindergarten year where because I was just glued to the Weather Channel all the time, I Learned all my 50 state capitals by the time I was in kindergarten.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Okay?

[Josh Pate]

And everyone rightly thought that was a lie. So the principal brings himself down to my kindergarten class one day because the kindergarten teacher was bragging about me to the rest of the school, I guess in like the teacher's lunchroom in the lounge and stuff like that. So principal comes down there and I think they had bet money on me, amongst themselves, they had bet on whether I could, whether I knew Montpelier was the capital of Vermont or whatever. And so I did. And so I think there was some cash that exchanged hands because of the Weather Channel teaching me my state capitals by the time I was in kindergarten. So then I grew up and like I've never, I've never relinquished that. Like, I've never let that go to the point where I've talked to you off camera a lot. You asked me like, hey, when, when college football gets so big, like when the channel gets so big, like what do you do? Do you go to the NFL? I don't go to the NFL. Like my next big passion project would be a full on weather based platform. I would love to get into that.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That is so wild to me then. I'm sure like you just seeing these print, like this teacher and this principal going back and forth gave you such a sense of pride at five or six years old, whatever age you were, when you're able to like recite all the capitals and states that it turned into this passion. But like people have passions, people get excited. They find identities and things that are like, oh, this is great. What made you good? Like, when was the first time you're like, I'm gonna take the next step. Whether it's buying a weather radar system, whether it's chasing A tornado for the first time. When was the next step for you in the passion category of weather?

[Josh Pate]

Okay. You're gonna, you're gonna think I'm making this story up. So I don't know what age I was. This is going to sound like a made up story, okay. Because it has to do with an ice storm. So there's a lot of correlation here. When I was a kid, my grandpa died and we had to go up to Chattanooga, Tennessee, or Lookout Mountain, which is really close to Chattanooga, for his funeral. So he got cremated and he wanted his ashes spread about this lake that he used to fish in, like up in the mountains in Tennessee. So I'm little, like, I'm way under 10 years old, so I kind of loosely understand what's going on. So we go up there, it's in the middle of winter. We have, I think, a service, and then we're going to go spread his ashes the next day. So this is my mom's dad. My dad is up there as well, who you know very well, Dan. And so the forecast says there's going to be a big ice storm. So it's decided that the rest of the family, me included, we're going to go home early. My mom's going to stay up there. They're going to spread the ashes and whatnot. And so, you know, it's too risky for everyone to stay up there. So I remember us going home. So I remember that was the first time I really learned how crippling an ice storm could be, that we had to, like, Ms. Pew's funeral ash spreading because of it. Okay, that's not the part that sounds crazy. Years later, unrelated to the ice storm, I get home from school one day. This is like five to ten years later. I get home from school one day, my mom has this look on her face like someone just hit her with a baseball bat. And I'm like, what? She said, so I need you to sit down. Never good.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Never good. That's terrible.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, that got dropped on me about three times my whole life. So this was one of them. Hey, need you to sit down. So it's about people. And I said, people's been dead like seven or eight years. I don't know what this could possibly pertain to. She said, do you remember when we went up there to spread his ashes? I said, well, I remember you did. I had to go home early for the ice storm. I still did remember that. She goes, yep. All right, so you're going to hear some stuff on the news later. Today, because a news crew just left our house. So I'm going to prepare you for it now. Okay. Come to find out there was a place up in North Georgia called the Tri State Crematorium that they had sent his body to to be cremated. All right. This place had been raided years later, and they discovered bodies stacked on top of each other that hadn't been cremated in a big shed. They discovered bodies thrown in a lake on the property. These people's incinerator had broken. And so instead of handing back human remains, cremated remains, they were basically just handing back firewood ash to people who don't know the difference. Cause who could really spot that? So we took, like, firewood ash, or my mom did, up into the mountains and spread it out and risked her life in an ice storm. And they come to find out his body's just been stacked in this shed the whole time. And they finally identified him because his toe tag was still on him. I'm not making any of this up. And so, yeah, that was my first experience with an ice storm, my friend.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Dude, what the fuck?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

So Pepaw has just been sitting there in, like, a refrigeration unit for the last 10 years.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, no, no. They didn't even do him the courtesy of refrigerating him. No, he's just out in a shed.

[Jeremy Klump]

So is he, like, disintegrating?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, they just. They were only.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I don't think disintegrating is the right word. Yeah, I don't think it is.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, he was decomposed remains because of the toe tag was still.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

So they didn't even. They didn't embalm him or nothing like that. They just stacked him and that's okay. I can see where we can find a line here of like. That's insane.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, it's a big story, dude. You could, like. Anybody can Google Tri State Crematorium right now and just read all about it. Probably has its own Wikipedia page.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That is nuts. So your mom sits you down. She says all this to you. Do you pop on the news that night?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, because she was on the news.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Got you. Guys, this was.

[Josh Pate]

This is true. This was my mom's 15 minutes. And not the one that she wanted necessarily, but, like, she got on national news because of this.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

So do we. Let's. Let's try to put a bow on this. Do we get a hold of people's body? Do we finally do the crematorium and do we go to and spread his ashes?

[Josh Pate]

Great question. Yes. And then I was able to go this Time and we went way up like to a. We went to such a remote point in the Tennessee wilderness that I questioned how did he ever get here routinely. Yeah, there was no. It was just strictly walking trails. And we went up there and spread the ashes. Legit ashes out this time. So I guess all's well that ends well a decade later.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. To think that tears were shed over firewood ash though. Tough, tough, tough living, dude. That is absolutely insane. So your passion came from malpractice. Yeah. Your passion came from malpractice. When was the first time you chased a tornado? Because if my understanding of our friendship is correct, your. One of your favorite thing to do is chase tornadoes. Let's. Let's dive into that. Give me.

[Jeremy Klump]

And can we come and.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. Oh, I think Josh has already said. Mitch just said in the corner can we come and the reference of going to see a tornado. I think that answer's already been answered. Like we've been given. We are going to chase a tornado with you this year. I could not be more excited for the opportunity. I can't be excited. I'm so excited to be terrified and then watch the vcore and drive towards the fight as opposed to away from the fight.

[Josh Pate]

Yes.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Similar to what I have done in this ice storm. But you know, no pat in the back needed. First time he chased us. Chased a storm. Who'd you get hooked up with? What's his name? Red Dog. The sniffer. What's. Who's the guy you work with?

[Josh Pate]

Oh, you must be referring to Brad Arnold, the tornado sniffer.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

The tornado sniffer. Correct. Now I'm assuming he's not your first chase. You have to work yourself up to the sniffer.

[Josh Pate]

Brad Ono wasn't my first.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

He wasn't your first.

[Josh Pate]

All right, he wasn't my first.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Tell me about when you've lost that beautiful tornado card.

[Josh Pate]

I want to say it was 08. I want to say you by the.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Way, just you saying. Oh wait. You love tragedy, right? We talked about your people. Now we're talking about a housing market crash. You don't care. You're just chasing down tornadoes.

[Josh Pate]

Why does everyone look so glum when I'm talking 08? It's a great year for me. Successful chase. No, there was a system that moved through really really weird. So there are what are called closed core low systems which I'm not going to explain. But anyway, they provide their own cold air. It's fascinating. They are notorious for bringing a severe weather signal the one day and then snow the next day in the south, they're rare, but when they do, they're famous for doing that. So we get an EF2 tornado right there near Harris county, where I grew up. And we chased it. We saw that one. And then the next day we got seven inches of snow. Extremely rare, like the biggest snowfall that we've had where I grew up in my entire lifetime. That was the first one I remember. But as far as doing it the way I want, you got to understand, like, so I grow up way closer to poor than middle income, so I can't leave. Like, I can't go anywhere. Traveling is a non starter for me. So I always made it a goal. Like, man, if I could ever. If I could ever make it, quote, unquote, if I were ever financially secure, I would hope that it comes from covering college football, which we ended up accomplishing. But then the dream scenario is you're financially secure and you have your springs free so you can go chase tornadoes anywhere in the country you want to. So, like, that's what we do now. So if. If it calls for flying to Wichita or flying to Oklahoma City or flying to Omaha or Topeka, that's where we go so bad. And then you rent a car and like I told you, you could be flying right back out of Wichita the next day, or you could end up driving all the way back to Nashville just because the chase naturally takes you east and you get to a certain point and you're in Arkansas and you're like, we're already halfway home. Why don't we just drive the rest of the way home? But I love that, man. And now. So I'm 14. I've seen 14 tornadoes, and I think we can get that up to 20 this year.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, bit of a tornado slot. Sounds like 14 tornadoes. Where does the sniffer come in? Because we. I remember we were flying back from New York a couple months ago. Great show on get up espn. They definitely dialed in the college football portion. They asked you to come up. You do. You absolutely kill it the entire time. On our way back, a lot of stuff going on in the media. Weather is getting kind of crazy, and you're just, you're just staring at your phone with all these little dots and colors going on and stuff like that. I don't know what I was going to finish that question with. That's the problem. The sniffer. How did you get to the sniffer? You brought him up on the plane and you talk about this guy that can just. He can find tornadoes out of thin air. He. He's one of those guys he puts the grass near, sees the direction of the wind, and heads that way.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, like he's in the movie Twister. If you ever see Bill Paxton just walk out in a, a gravel parking lot of a barbecue joint and just pick up some of the gravel and let it fall out of his hand. And then he looks at the sky mysteriously, that's our boy.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That's the sniff.

[Josh Pate]

All right, so here's the scene when you're chasing these days, YouTube is a fascinating thing in our world. It's changed our lives, but it's changed storm chasing too. So what you'll have is at any given time, you could have like 15 other Chasers, live feeds pulled up on top of your radar products and your GPS products. You just got a wall of monitors in your truck if it's set up the right way. So over time, I don't know any of these people personally. I didn't grow up with them. But you just come to, you just come to filter out who the legit alphas in the space are. So over time, like Brad Arnold, who, by the way, is stranded in Franklin, Tennessee as we speak. So shout out to him. Brad Arnold just starts to separate. And like, anytime there's a tornado that's touched down or there's one that's imminent, he's always there. His car is always there. His little dot on the map is always there. So it turns out he watches the show. He's a big college football guy, so we just kind of naturally got hooked up. He lives in Huntsville. Most of these dudes live in Oklahoma. He lives in Huntsville. So it makes a lot of sense. Like, if we were to ever chase or if we were to stage out of somewhere, you got maybe the best in the world. He's power rated number one right now. I got him power rated number one. I don't know what he's ranked, but he's power rated number one. That's, that's our guy. And big fan of busing. So, like, you don't know it, but you guys are friends as well.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Nice.

[Josh Pate]

And he's down, he's down to, he's. A lot of people are down to do a lot of things these days, but, but he's down to chase this spring, dog.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I, I, it's, I never knew I was so excited about something until you brought it into my life. Like, obviously I've seen tornado, but growing up in Arizona, there's zero natural disasters that take place. So as a kid, you wake up in the Morning sun's outside and you put on, you know, the news, and it's like, ice storm in Nashville, Tennessee, you know, tornado in Topeka, Kansas. And you just sit there and you go, hey, that's kind of crazy. And then you go outside and play like it never really sparks in your brain. Yeah, this is like the. This is like the. It's just the craziest thought process. So for the fact that me will, you and the sniffer are going to head out in the spring, I cannot wait for the opportunity to stare one of these bad boys. Because I remember being at Michigan, I think it was my second year, I just moved into a house with a couple of football players, and there's a couple of girls on the other side, and we became friends with them. But like the first, like, I would say March, all of a sudden, sirens start going off, and these cats are from the Midwest, like, hey, we gotta go down the basement. I'm learning all this in real time where I'm playing it cool, but I'm like, also in, like a massive panic mode of what's going on. Because they're talking about how if this happens, we gotta do X, Y and Z. If the power outage, we have to be able to get out. And there's. There's so many different variables that take place. What's it like for you when you're chasing these storms and there's so much damage that takes place in these towns, these cities, wherever it might be. Like, what is the move after the tornado ends.

[Josh Pate]

Can be really scary, can be really traumatizing. So I've been in the situation a few times. So what you do. You can have different purposes for. For going out there. Some people are working on federal grants and they're actually doing work for the government. Many of the. Many others have, like, big successful weather franchises that they run independently. They're gathering content no differently than we are right now. But everybody kind of has the understanding that, all right, you're out here for whatever reason you're out here for, but there's this mutual understanding in the community that everyone's here. And in a moment's time, you could become a first responder. It could immediately turn into search and rescue. Now, you got to walk a fine line there because not everyone is trained first responder. And so you. There's a point where you could be getting in the way. You could be doing more harm than good. But there's also a point where, like, I mean, if you're in the middle of a disaster zone, and no one's there. There are no blinking lights. Also, it's really crazy. Cause 99 times out of 100, power has been knocked out, so there's no sound. And it's. It's really, really surreal. It's like a movie scene. So you got to do whatever you can. And so you're always ready for that. You're in the middle of a chase, and, you know, especially if you're near a tornado or you're documenting one, within the next five minutes, you could be totally switched to searching through debris in search and rescue mode. You're dodging live power lines. You're dodging lightning as well, which is my biggest fear. So, like, there. There's a high, high risk and, like, high volatility element into the chase. But you remember when you asked me on that flight back, you said, what's it like when you see a tornado?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

What's it like when you actually see it? It's because people ask me that so often. I had to come up with this explanation. So the way I explained it, the way I explained the adrenaline rush, it's very sudden, is like if you combined the feeling of cresting at the top of a roller coaster when you start to head down on a roller coaster, and you combine that with sex, you combine that with the feeling you get in the best haunted house you've ever been in. All of those things thrown into one are kind of a loose comparison to the. That, like the kind of adrenaline when you're right there in harm's way next to, like, a legit tornado.

[Jeremy Klump]

That's like your three favorite things.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. Yeah. It's like my three favorite things. The thing that you're doing right now, to me, is one of. Could be the greatest thing in a friendship or your worst nightmare. And it's. It's essentially the same thing as when you're. When you go to a town, when you bring your boys to your town that you grew up in, and there's that one restaurant that you're like, you guys have got to go here, eat here. Because it's. It's zips. This is my. You are essentially talking about my zips right now to where you. You're going to bring me along for this ride. And the possibility that we talk to talk about on this plan as well is you could go out there for six days and not see a damn thing. There is that element to where Josh Pate lets down the boys, similar to the way Will was framing you during the fiesta Boys type of thing. Before we got that cleared out. Thankfully for jp, that fear is, is massive. It should. Is it? You feel it in your stomach right now?

[Josh Pate]

Yes. No, I. But it's not up to me. So there's a calmness in the fact that it's out of my hands because I've been in this position myself. Like I've, I've spent money on gas, on flights, on food, on lodging. And you go out there and the thing about it is sometimes the most sure thing type setup just doesn't deliver. And it's not even necessarily like the weatherman's fault. There's just there are a million different variables in the atmosphere. And especially when it comes to stp, significant tornado parameter. Those things have to be combined in a very, very specific like, like combination of ingredients for supercells to form and tornado genesis to happen. Now when it does, sometimes it'll pop off en masse, but if you don't get it, there's a fine line between a big outbreak and, and completely nothing. Can we, can we get the cap to break that day? So I've experienced that myself, but that's actually what makes the big outbreak day feel the way it feels because it's not like seeing a thunderstorm. You see those all the time. So they don't mean anything to you, right? It means something when you see a tornado because it's hard to chase those things down.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

When you get to we're looking at Nashville and all the debris. I'm sure you've seen a lot of photos. Three, over 300,000 people, no power. It's a very dangerous situation now that the storm has taken place and everything's frozen over. You being my number one weatherman guy, is there a light at the end of this tunnel? Because I heard rumors of, I know like middle of the week it's going to get above freezing, but only slightly. So my brain goes to, okay, we're have a little bit of a melt back to a refreeze. But then I hear there's a rumor of there's a possible nether storm on the horizon that can give us the same thing over again. What is your weatherman things telling you?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, so I've been monitoring that. I don't feel overly confident that that's going to happen for Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama. Right now. I think if that becomes an event this weekend, it's a lot more an Eastern seaboard event. But again, that's still a little ways off so it bears close watching. What you got to watch for in Tennessee is sunlight you got to get as many hours of direct sunlight as you can get, which you're eventually going to get. Like, I'm. I'm in Georgia right now. I'm planning on coming back up there Wednesday. So, like, I think we'll be good by then. Unless I text you otherwise, I don't foresee a big event in the near future. So I think we got some time to clean up. It's gonna be cold, but I think we got some time to clean up.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, buddy. We got so much damage over here. On my side, like, just my house in general. 15,000, $50,000. You're just looking around, and I'm seeing fences, structures broken down. Like, we have this whole compost station, and it was there two days ago, and now it's. There's a giant tree, and you literally don't even see the compost station anymore. My goats and my dog, bear, they have debris all around them. Luckily, none of those structures, but, like, fences have been pulled down. Wires are hanging. Yesterday, my neighbor, he. His boss is like, hey, you need to get down to Orlando, Florida. And he's like, I'm literally. If you pull down in my house on one side, like, a house down, there's a tree. On the other side, less than a house down, there's a power line in a tree. There's no way to get out. But on my property, I have, like, a construction path from when we were building the house to get out on the other side. So I take this can am I just bought, and I drive him to the Shell station on the corner of Old Hickory and I think Nolensville. I think those are the two streets. I'm not great with streets. Take him there. He has to drive down to Atlanta, gets down to Orlando after that. But I'm driving back, dude. And the amount of chaos that's taking place. Houses with trees through the middle of them, like, where you go and you're on a street, and it's like, there's no way to get around, so you have to turn around and go back the other way and find a new way home, because that just happened in the last five minutes. I've already talked about where I've grown up, but this is the worst storm I've personally ever witnessed. And I'm sure a lot of people in Nashville have as well.

[Josh Pate]

All right, so I was thinking about this yesterday. You know, how when you go through middle school and high school, how many subjects you have to take that, you know, even in the moment, I'm never going to use this in my life?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Absolutely.

[Josh Pate]

Don't you think that weather awareness should be mandatory to be taught in school? Only because think about, like, all right, finance 100% should be taught in school because it affects every single person. I think weather awareness or weather preparedness, or at least like a basic, functioning, working knowledge of weather should have to be taught, because that's one of the very few things in life that's guaranteed to impact everybody. And like, you. You're in Nashville right now. Think about how many people in the lead up to this storm really had no idea what freezing rain was.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Dude, I'm one of them. I sat there and I'm like, freezing rain? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me because Yesterday morning, it's 28. It's, like, between 25 and 28 degrees, and it's raining. And I'm thinking, everything I've been taught about weather in my life is as soon as it hits 32 and below, it's now snow. It's no longer rain. That's not how it works. And I'm watching. It's weirdly in all this chaos because the sunlight is out right now. You walk outside and it's calm and kind of beautiful. Like, if you. If you ignore the fact that there's chaos going on around you, you're seeing these limbs that seem like they've been decorated for Christmas. Like, there's a blanket of snow, which is actually just ice, and it looks, like, so calm everywhere. And. And then in the distance, every two or three minutes, you're hearing. Because where I. Where I live in town, there's. It's a lot of forest. You're hearing branches. You're hearing trees come down. You're hearing people in the distance. And where you're just like, it's crazy how this thing can look so beautiful, but also the amount of chaos that's taking place within one mile of me is just outrageous because it's. It's similar to the way you described, like, after the tornado, where there's no sound. Oh, you can. You can just hear what everybody's going through within an earshot because there's nothing else kind of taking that away. It's just nuts, ma'.

[Josh Pate]

Am. What's really crazy is when you learn the science behind it. Because I was in this one time when I was a little kid when I watched the weather Channel describe freezing rain. It made no sense to me because I'm like, I've seen it Snow when it's 35 degrees outside before. So how could liquid be falling out of the sky when it's 30 degrees?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. How does that work?

[Josh Pate]

Well, you learn the science behind it and it really help. If I had a grease board. But like, so if, if you have just a still column of cold air all the way up to the cloud, that snowflake is falling through sub freezing temperatures. So it never melts and it just hits the ground as a snowflake. But sometimes, and this is why I started using the terminology warm nose with you last week, sometimes there's a warm nose that works its way into the atmosphere just above the surface. So there's this weird situation where at the surface it's below freezing, but just above the surface, like 2 or 3,000ft up in the air, it's like 39 degrees. So a snowflake falls out of the clouds, goes through that 39 degree air and melts. And then it gets right towards the surface. And even though it is below freezing towards the surface. And it doesn't have time to refreeze because gravity is pulling it to the ground pretty quickly. So it doesn't freeze until after it hits the ground. So it falls as liquid hits the ground, freezes on contact, and then it just covers everything like you're seeing right now. That's why the ice storm freezing rain is 100 times more dangerous than anything else. And that's why once I realized that's what we were getting, I bailed. So.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, catch you later. Yeah. Because then you start to read about like a half inch of rain adds the, this many hundred pounds on branches.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

And you know, like, dude, when I woke up in the morning because our, our power went out around like 4am two days ago and the generator had not kicked on yet. And I, you know, I'll tell my own heroic story in a second, but I'm outside kind of going around making sure everyone's good, and there are flashes of green and blue lights through the clouds. And the clouds are very low at this point, but you're seeing these flashes. And I saw like on Twitter or wherever I was getting my, my weather that this is, this is probably a lightning storm coming with this. So I'm thinking to myself, oh, this is just lightning. Come to find out, these are transformers exploding because of the ice wearing it down. And the amount of weight that's taking, it's pulling these things off of these wooden poles and sometimes the metal poles as well to where transformers are exploding in the distance. Where you see like you sort of really. Oh, these are just Little bombs going off all around Nashville and it's just nuts. And then I had to go and buddy, I had to fix my own generator. It was almost the end of me and Taylor because she's sitting on the. She's in the bathroom of our house and I'm on the outside and she's talking about a vent. And I'm reading the vent. I'm like. She's like, side panel. And there's obviously multiple sides. And I'm like yelling at her from. Because I'm like now freezing. I'm getting rained on in 30 degree weather. And it was chaos for a minute. Ended up getting it cranked on. We're running just fine with the Luan household, but it is. I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. And it's just. It's just crazy that it's exactly how you predicted it as it was coming because.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. You know what's crazy about the power flashes?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Tell me.

[Josh Pate]

It's the. So ice storms and tornadoes. You look for the exact same thing. You look for those power flashes.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Really.

[Josh Pate]

And in the. Whether it's ice storm or whether it's tornado. Tornado is a little more violent in the moment. Obviously, that's one of the telltale signs that a tornado is on the ground is when you see the power flashes. Because you know that's just transformers blowing. And there's really only one thing that's going to do that and that's tornado on the ground. But in the. In the event of the ice storm, same thing's happening, but it's for a far different reason. It's because of what you just said is happening to all those tree branches. And that's why I told you, because I know you live in like a really wooded area.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

If you live in wooded areas especially, you're just screwed if you get significant ice. Like half an inch or more of ice is catastrophic because it's a 100% certainty tree. Tree branches are going to come down. Trees in their entirety are going to come down. And there's only so many ways they can fall. And if you consider how many trees you have around you, eventually one of them is going to fall on a power line. And really all it takes is one to fall at the right place to knock out everybody's power.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah. And that's exactly what happened in my house, dude. We literally. I walked outside and I hear a branch go down. It's very close. So I look over in the direction and I see a live wire kind of ripping around on my shoulder.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, that's scary.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I mean, I'm. I'm clearly a far enough distance away, I felt like. But just seeing it, I'm like, this is insane what's going down right now. And it's just crazy. And then I think to myself, like, my neighbor across the street, I don't even know them. I kind of, like, keep to myself in my neighborhood, but, like, they get ahold of my wife's number, and this guy has a pacemaker, and he's like, we don't have power. So I'm, like, going over there, bringing it to my house, charging his pacemaker, bringing it back. I got a neighbor that my kids hang out with. Their family is now at my house. And I'm, like, trying to house people because I'm like, the only house on the block that has any power right now. And it's like, there's a. There's a feeling of. A rewarding feeling of being able to, like, help people in this situation. But also it's like, what's going to happen when it's all cleared up because pipes are bursting? I can. I've already. We've already talked about the amount of damage I have in my house. Luckily, I'll be able to, like, fix those things and get them done. But a lot of people around me are just for months, possibly a year of. Are going to have, like, repercussions for the things that are taking place in Nashville, which is just, you know, you have a lot of empathy and a lot of gratitude for you're at. And you just hope everyone's all right.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. The staff was asking me when I told them Thursday or Wednesday or Tuesday, I told them, I'm considering going out of town. And they were like, why? And then we got past the whole joking around. Oh, you're running from the weather. And I explained to him, no, I'm not joking. I'm legit running from the weather. And they were like, oh, you're serious? Okay, explain to us why.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

And I explained, well, here's what's going to happen with the power. So in fairness to them, they know nothing about weather. So they were like, but the power goes out sometimes in storms. Why does that mean you leave? Do you leave every time you think the power is going to go out? And I said, no, the extended period of time the power could be out combined with temperatures in the. What is like, the single digits last night?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

That's a really. It's a really big deal, because, like, when thunderstorms Knock out the power. I don't know that since I lived in Nashville, my power has ever been out more than three hours, except when the tornado hit my building in 2020. That was a different story. But like, other than that, just normal, Normal power outages. NES is really good about getting that stuff back on. They are powerless on some of this stuff to get it back on because it takes weeks and weeks and weeks because you're not just like reattaching a line. You're not just resetting anything. You have to physically rebuild the infrastructure of your power grid. It doesn't matter if you have the best in the world. And they all work overtime and they bring in crews from surrounding counties. You're talking about weeks to potentially sometimes months that that stuff takes to get fixed.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, I was just texting with my wife before you jumped on and she works with this charity company called Home Street Home. This, it's a, this guy named Steve. It's an amazing story. He was lost his job, ended up being homeless. He thought, okay, this will be a couple, couple of weeks. Ends up being, I believe, closer to a year that he's on the streets. Like, no home, nowhere to go, sleeping under tunnels. And once he got himself financially stable, he pulled himself out of the situation. And now his whole mission is taking care of the homeless, putting, getting them on their feet, giving them the tools in order to, you know, carry on with their life and get back up to where they should be. He just hit my wife up like we are, that we're overdone. We have no more money. We're messed up. There's a, like, there are people dying right now, which is just, you know, it's terrible. It's terrible. And there's not a whole lot to go off that other than just like, you just hope everybody's okay. And so that's all I got. There's probably not a great follow up to that for you to be.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I've always been a believer that the way that they evacuate an area when a hurricane is imminent should be the same way you evacuate an area when you know an ice storm is imminent. The problem is a hurricane is going to make landfall at a specific place and then it's going to move inland. This thing, like, if you look at the track of it, you're talking about anywhere from southeastern Arkansas through like, Oxford, Mississippi, up through Memphis, Jackson, Nashville, Knoxville. Like you got an extended, very, very extended swath of land where it's kind of. It's not feasible to evacuate that large a Chunk of land.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

So people like. That's why you got to prioritize. Like the elderly. You're doing on a pacemaker, for example. Like, I mean, if you. If you lose power, it's going to suck, but you're in. You're in the prime of your life. You're going to be okay. Probably.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

But if you're 85 years old, especially if you're alone like that, that's something that's happening there right now.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, it is. It's just crazy, man. And this conversation, if it's. You brought it up, but like, having education as a young. As a young lad, being able to understand weather and what you do in certain situations of tragedy, whether it's a tornado, an ice storm, a giant thunderstorm that breaks out power, like, knowing what you should and should not do, because I'm guilty of it myself, and I'm sure many other that are listening to this episode is like, when this is all happening, I'm thinking to myself, okay, I gotta have food. If we don't power, I have firewood. And then everything else I can just kind of figure out. There's so many more layers of what you need from the salting of the driveway, how to assault the driveway, shoveling the snow. There's like, the preparation that takes place in order to be mobile in case disaster strikes. And it's just. I mean, I got a buddy of mine who, like, I think halfway through the storm, he's like, we gotta go. We're going south. And I think he's like, he's from, like, Southern Georgia, so he's going to see his family there. It's just nuts. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we end up this episode to bring you rose sparks. All right, let me explain why guys keep talking about rose sparks. You hear the stories about a guy, he's saying once he started taking it, their confidence went through the roof. And suddenly date nights just felt a whole lot different. After it dissolves under your tongue, you get a. You get hard, boys. Listen to me. You get rock hard. And 15 minutes on average, that's fast. No planning your whole day around it. This isn't got a. I got a date night. Four hours later, I'm gonna pop the pill. And then all those things. This is something that just dissolves around your tongue. We're talking about 15 minutes on average. And these boys, it's not just a one time and you're done. They last for 36 hours, which means you'll be ready all weekend. Not just one moment that's also why guys on Roast Sparks report their partners were more satisfied in bed. Confidence changes everything. It's something you keep on hand when the signal starts to come. She's the lady of yours starts giving you those eyes. She starts swirling around that straw in the drink and kind of looks up real slow at you. That's a signal, boys. No stress, no scrambling. So when you want to get hard fast and be sex ready for up to 36 hours, you've got to check out Ro Sparks. Thank you to Ro Sparks for sponsoring this video. You can connect to the RO connects guys with medical provider 100% online. If approved treatment ships directly to your door, it prescribes new sexual health. Patients get $15 off their first order on sports Sparks and recurring plan. Connect with a provider at Roe Co Bussin to find out if prescribed Row Sparks are right for you. That's Ro Co Busson for 15 off your first order. Rose Sparks is a compounded drug product. Compounded drugs are permitted to be described under federal law but are not FDA approved and do not undergo FDA safety effectiveness or manufacturing review. For full safety info go to Roe Co Bus and we're also brought to you by Form Energy. Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavor and zero sugar. Form comes in a variety of different flavors and they are naturally caffeinated, derived from green tea, those, those, those flavors. You might ask Screamin Freedom Grape Smash, Blue Bitch, Blue Bitch, Blue Blitz, Orange Fury. And they have a couple more coming out too that I'm telling you I've had a little taste test on. They are absolutely Fire Form Energy. We do the work.

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[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I know we've taken a lot of your time on the weather. We haven't really spoken since you were crowned the locker room champion. And dude, I can't believe Miami was able to hang that long with Indiana. I mean, it was back and forth like Indiana or Miami could have easily won that game. But what are your takeaways from? We'll start small. Your takeaways from this game. Seeing an ACC team and a Big Ten team for the third time winning a national championship that game. What was your biggest takeaway from those two teams?

[Josh Pate]

All right, first off, what a game.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

And I mean, if. I think, I don't think Mario would admit this, but I think in his heart of hearts, if you told him that morning, I'm going to give you the ball. First and ten midfield with a minute left down six. Will you take that? I think he would have taken it.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yep.

[Josh Pate]

That's exactly where they were so you've seen the movie the Perfect Storm, right?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yes. Beautiful and heartbreaking.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Yeah. And to me, that was that entire game. And it's kind of like playing Indiana this season. But that game was a great microcosm of what it's been like playing Indiana when they're on, and Indiana was on that night. So there were three different times where Miami probably took what should have been a knockout blow. They answer each time to the point, like we just said, where they have the ball midfield, like, they. I fully believed I was standing in the end zone with Cristobal's family. I fully believe I'm about to see a celebration to end all celebrations in Miami's building. This is about to be surreal. And then Carson Beck just throws a pick and it's over. Kind of anticlimactic there, but I felt like it was. There's such skill in being able to trade knockout blows.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Like watching old school, like. Like Muhammad Ali fights. Before there were any kind of regulations on boxing. They were on 15 rounds and they're just annihilating each other. And you're sitting there watching, saying, not only how did he just take that punch to his face, how did he deliver one? So in the Perfect Storm, and I'm going to spoiler alert it, because it's been out for a long time, they're going through, like, unimaginable hell on the open seas, and they're like a confluence of three different storms, and they're out there just trying to catch some fish, they're trying to feed their families, they're trying to get back to the mainland, and they're stuck in it, and they're going through it, and there's this point where George Clooney and the dude in the captain's chair with him, they like, kind of resign themselves to the idea that they're going to die, and they're fighting it, but they realize, we're probably going to die. All right. Then the skies start to part a little bit, and it starts to let up. The rain stops and they get this look on their face like they just got a second chance at life. And the second crewman there says, skip, we're going to make it. And George Clooney is looking around, and then the skies start to darken again, and then the wind picks up again, and then the sun disappears. And then the rain starts to fall and the waves pick up, and George Clooney looks and says, she's not going to let us out. And that's what it was like Watching Miami, there were like three different times where Miami feels like, man, we're going to win this game. And every time Indiana had an answer and every time Mendoza makes a play. And in the end it's just like they're not going to let him out. They're not going to let him out. And I fully believe you probably took Miami's best punch. Like all things considered, Miami gave themselves as good a shot as they could give themselves. But it was a game, like you said, where if Indiana's on, no one's beating them and they were on enough, where even Miami's best wasn't going to beat them.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, and it's interesting too because when we were talking about the locker room, you said, do you believe Miami's best game can beat Indiana? And I answered what I really thought was the truth. And the answer is yes. But I do believe, like you just said, that was Miami's best shot at that. And it just happened to be that Indiana just had a slight edge and there's no shot at Crystal Ball or Carson Beck or Fletcher or those two defensive ends. It's just the storm. It just wasn't going to let you out. And no matter what you did and how hard you fought, eventually you were going down in that water until the bubble stopped. And it's, it was beautiful to see because it was two teams that we have one team we haven't seen in forever in a national championship. And the other team is, hasn't been good in the history of their program in college football. And it was just amazing to watch two unique brands go after it for something that mattered so much. And to see like Fernando Mendoza with the game on the line, like call the a draw is called where he makes a guy miss, dives into the end zone and gets hit early in the game, multiple late hits that could have been called on, on the Miami defense. It was, it was beautiful. It was poetic. And I love the fact that Fernando Mendoza's story, I love that he referenced the fact that he was a two star guy at the end of the game and was denied a walk on, walk on scholarship, I guess, to, to Miami. And now he's on this big press tour and he's going to clearly be the number one overall pick. And it's just, it's incredible to see. My question is, do we see Indiana? Is this a, this is the new standard for Indiana and Kurt Signetti, who's only lost two games in two years, or did they strike lightning in a bottle? And I know you don't truly have that answer, but I do want to know your thoughts on where does Indiana go from here. This Hoover kid that come from tcu, like, what a amount of pressure that he. He has on his shoulders to take over for Fernando Mendoza. Like, there's a lot of things that are now taking place. Is Cooper coming back? I don't know if he has, but Surrott's out. A lot of guys are gone. A lot of those JMU cats that came over to Indiana made the team a national championship team. Those guys are gone now. So I love to know, like, your thought process on the Indiana program at this point.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I think they're there. Like, I think they're here. I think you can, you can write their name on that fifth line sort of in the Big Ten. Like, we've had Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon. They've been kind of penciled in as you expect success from them.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

And the big question has been who's going to put their name in that fifth line. Now, we were thinking USC the whole time, and maybe USC will as well. Just in my opinion, from this point moving forward, Indiana is solidly in that fifth blank. And that doesn't mean they're number five. That just means they've established themselves as the fifth mainstay to me in the Big Ten. So the reason I say that is they didn't. I don't think they caught lightning in a bottle. I think they took everyone by surprise, including me, but I don't think they caught lightning in a bottle because I don't. To say that to me insinuates what they just did. They probably won't be able to replicate. I think they'll be able to replicate it now. It's. It's a really interesting conversation because they're going to have plenty good enough players. The staff will be plenty good enough. Also, you got that like Roger Bannister sub 4 minute mile effect, where now that everyone has seen it done, it becomes much more possible to be done again and again and again. And in the end. So I don't doubt that the proof of performance will help them as well. Like you said, they established a standard there, all that stuff. The one thing that's interesting to me is when we were in Atlanta, I don't know if you were. I don't think you were there. I don't think you were there. When I had this conversation, I was talking to an Indiana fan at the game, before the game, and he was. He was just kind of talking about, oh, man, you picked against us so many times this year. But he was, like, having fun about it. So he said, and think about this, bro. This is the least talented team that Signetti is going to have because we're going to get more talented players now, which is not false. But he stopped short of saying what I think he was implying. What I think he was implying is, if we're this good now, imagine how much better we will be. The one thing I don't believe is they'll ever have a better team than they just had. They will have more talented teams, I have no doubt about that. Maybe next year they will. I don't think it is possible for a team in the purest sense of what a team is. I don't think it's possible to have a better team dynamic than what they just had. I don't believe that to be true. So I'm not saying that to, like, try and put emergency brakes on expectations or anything like that. I'm just trying to say, like, I always go back to Saban's first years at Alabama. He gets there in 07. A year later, they go to the SEC title game, they're 12 and 0. They play Tebow and lose. The next year, they go undefeated. They win the whole thing. And those teams still had, like, some Mike Shula players on those teams. There were a few holdouts. It wasn't even all Saban's roster yet. And I remember Bama fans thinking, we just want a title and our most talented teams are still to come. And they were right about that. But if you ask Saban about the best teams he had, he'll go back and point to those teams and he'll say, you know, we never really recreated that unique kind of dynamic. Because the way he put it, which I think is brilliant, and I think it applies to Indiana, is, He said, those 08 and 09 teams, those were the last teams we ever had where the building was full of, what can I do for Alabama guys every year after that because of our success, because of the athletes we were able to recruit. We were really talented, but there was always this element of, what can Alabama do for me in the building? And he said, I never really had a group that was like that 08, 09 group. Now, they went on to win more titles, so it doesn't mean they weren't able to replicate success in the form of winning championships. But if anyone thinks that Kurt Signetti is going to have better teams than he just had, I think you're crazy.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, I love Everything you just said, because Indiana has now put it to where when you look at the logo, your brain doesn't necessarily go to basketball immediately anymore. Now looking at football, and that's what these kids are looking at as well. They see the success. They see Surat, who went to jmu, this Cooper kid, Black in the backfield. Fernando Mendoza is the perfect example for all these things. Like two star kid goes to Cal. No one's really talking about Fernando Mendoza when he signs his letter of intent out of the transfer portal to go to Indiana, yet he's the one that wins the national championship. So every kid now is thinking, if I go to Indiana, I will get X, Y and Z. And so that is. It's a terrifying thing. It's also a thing that I look at a guy like Kurt Signetti of. He's going to handle it the similar way that Nick Saban does. And he's going to. He's going to see it changing because he's been around Saban. They butt heads a lot, but they also butt heads a lot because they're very similarly built and being the guy understanding culture and implementing that culture, regardless of the certain personalities that they have. So I do agree with you that Indiana, although they might not be the same, the record will reflect similar similarly every year because of what they've been able to build. When I look at Miami, I get a little more pause when I look at Miami, because you obviously have Malachi Toney, who I think he regraded, I believe is the correct term. He should have been a senior in high school this past year. That's absolutely incredible for him to be such a vocal point of that offense and one of the best players on that entire team. But you're losing Beck, who is, you know, seventh year in college football, which is still such a crazy thing for me to wrap my brain around. He. They have to find a quarterback, which I don't know if they have. I haven't followed very much. They're losing Mezzanine, Mesadol, Mezador and Bane. Who are the two guys that anytime you brought up the defense, you'd be like, yeah, their back end's really good, their front seven's good. But it's these two guys that allow everything to operate. Mario Cristobal, friend of our show, friend of yours. What do we think about them? Like, seems like their road is a little more touch and go. To be like they're going to be in it every single year now. Their path to me seems like, okay, yeah, they're they're in the acc. They had those fumbles versus SMU and Louisville. But I could see them clearly, you know, getting into playoffs but making that big of a run. That's where I find pause.

[Josh Pate]

I. I kind of feel the same way about them as I do Indiana. Just in a sense that I expect them to be there every year. To me, the same skill is in putting yourself in the playoff picture every year and then you hope you peak at the right time. You get injury luck and stuff like that. All right, so do I put them in that category? Yes, I do. I think they're. When the dust settles, I think they're going to get Darian Mensah. That may be done, may not.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That's a Duke. That's a Duke quarterback.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. And it's just a legal thing. He'll be the quarterback down there. So they're going to get him. I think his best receiver is probably going to follow him. I just have stopped doubting that they're going to back with really, really solid replacements for the big time guys that they're losing. I think that you just saw in only one year how big a turnaround they had defensively. Like they were woeful when Cam Ward was there defensively and they hired Heatherman from Minnesota. From Minnesota. And they just turned that thing around. And I mean, honestly, I think the results they got last year should have taken two years to get, but they got him last year. So I think they'll continue, they'll continue being able to win on that side of the ball. I just think every year further you've gotten into Mario being there, you've progressed and every year further you've gotten in, the team looks more and more like what a Mario Crispball team should look. That's why they were able to do what they did. Like how did they beat Ohio State? They just bloodied them. That no one else does that to Ohio State this year at least. But they did and then they did it against A and M before that. And that that's how they were able to at least hang with Indiana and make it a game against Indiana. So in that sense I think it'll be there. I just think in January especially, or February or even spring practice. When we're looking at this stuff, we're so far away, kind of like that weather thing when we're a week away from it. We got a general idea of what could be in the vicinity. But nailing down the specifics, you got to be 24, 48, 72 hours out maybe at that point you kind of know. So like with Miami, I mean, what is, what is the intel out of the scrimmage? One in fall camp sound like? Do they have any key injuries? Malachi, Tony, you know, we watched Ryan Williams and Jeremiah Smith pop as true freshmen. And then this past year were their second years. Williams fell off a cliff. Jeremiah Smith was still legit. And the point there is it's not just an automatic that when you're a star as a true freshman that you automatically scale that performance level linearly in year two. So there's a lot of unknown. That's why I speak very generically about teams this time of year. And I say they're going to be in the hunt. I think they're going to be in the hunt. The wild thing about them is they play for a national title before they've played for an ACC title under Mario. That to me is insane.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That is just crazy. And people now are looking at like Clemson as like, oh, that's a dead dog. But you never know what's going to happen with them as well. Dabo Sweeney, as much as hate he got this year, it's like could just bring them back out of the fold. He has a tendency to do that when they have a down year, a big bounce back right after that. So even though the ACC is not stacked and we've argued about, you know, they're a little more irrelevant, which, you know, Miami brought them back in a lot of ways, there's still that one or two teams in there that can also make a big push at the end. But you're absolutely right when it comes to injuries, looking downrange too far this early in the year, it's more fun to talk about than it is to put your stamp of approval. We can do that in August when we have our very exciting things coming up that we can break at some point. But it's, it's very interesting. I know I always talk about Michigan with you, but you had a clip come out about how Whittingham, this young nucleus of team. There's a lot of optimism. You see the fan base. You're kind of living, living with the fan base so far as, like the way the optimism goes. I'm as a fan sitting there being like, oh, my God, the potential, the potential that this team has this year is a playoff caliber team. Not just a playoff caliber team, but a team that can actually go and maybe get a couple chunks even with the schedule that they have. But then we just got done talking about Mario Cristobal, but more importantly, Kurt Signetti. And Kurt Signetti, he has a lot of famous quotes, but one of the ones I love the most is he takes production over potential. And what Michigan's dealing with right now is we have a shitload of potential going into the season and not so much production. And that is where my pause is. So I love a little more of a, an outlook, professional view on the Michigan Wolverines. Barring injury, barring all the things, how do we feel as two Michigan Wolverine fans right now about this team?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, remember what Signetti was having to do though. So up until five seconds ago, Kurt Signitti slash. Indiana could not attract premier highly rated players, highly rated talent. So what he had to do was he had to go bargain barrel shopping. And out of that crop of players, he's saying, I trust the production over the potential. Now I think even he'll get into an area where, look, they can knock on recruiting rankings all they want to. I promise you, if a five star receiver wants to commit to Indiana, they're not turning him away. I promise you they're not. And I promise you, you'll probably see that kid on the field as a true freshman. I promise you that stuff will happen. So at Michigan, we're talking about a different little caliber of athlete from a recruiting ranking standpoint. And that's its own conversation and people have really flawed theories about that stuff. But 50,000 foot, there is no better forward facing predictive measurement in high school sports now than recruiting rankings 50,000ft. Michigan traffics very well in that category. So if my unproven potential is really high level athletes that most other schools wanted, I'm okay with rolling the dice that Kyle Whittingham will be able to get the most out of them. Like I'm, I'll take that risk, in other words. But the point I was making, the, the video you're talking about in the Mood Tracker segment we did was at least now we know, like, at least now there's no me showing up to the shop on a Wednesday. And before we start recording, recording me and you were talking 20 minutes about what we're hearing behind the scenes at Michigan.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

What could be going on? What could be just around the corner or, you know, hidden behind this curtain? We know now, so we know the NCAA stuff's done. No one's mentioning Connor Stallions anymore. No one's mentioning Harbaugh anymore. No one's mentioning any investigation. No one's mentioning, hey man, have you heard this about Sharon? No one's Mentioning that.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

So we're on the other side of that now. And now it's just, hey, let's.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Let's play ball.

[Josh Pate]

Let's roll it out there. Spot the ball, let's go. And we got a guy who was one of the winningest head coaches in the history of college football, and Kyle Whittingham, who very clearly has tread left on his tires. Also, if you believe in the chip on the shoulder added fuel source. Imagine that guy who was told, time for you to move on at Utah. And then it just so happens the Michigan jobs open. So the Michigan job, maybe when he was otherwise stagnating in his career, reinvigorates him. I think the same thing may happen with James Franklin at Virginia Tech, by the way.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

So we may see that. That element multiple places. You got year two with Bryce Underwood, so you kind of try and get to see, like, does he blossom year one to year two. I just think it's so much, so much steadier, a sense of footing right now. That's what gives me optimism. So I put Michigan in that same category of they'll be able to give themselves a puncher's chance. Like, they'll be in the picture, picture this year and then moving forward. I have very little doubt they'll be in the picture.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, I know definitely this year, very early. I mean, after the Oklahoma game, it was like, oh, we are not. We are talented, but we are misdirected in a lot of ways. Then the USC game happens. Then I talked myself into Ohio State, which you were on board with into the 11th hour. You were my ice storm in late November. But, yeah, being a part of the University of Michigan Latter Day Saints, like I am, I kind of like where we're at right now. And it's also insane to me that BYU and these Utah programs were so a part of the locker room. And we always bring up American primeval. Now I'm a part of the squad, dude. Now. Now I'm part of it. I want to ask you about two more teams and then I'll let you get out of there. I'm sure your beautiful wife is waiting for you to get off so you can go do your thing. Your father, Dan Pate, finally got the I got the follow on Twitter. You let me know quickly. And there would be be no way for me to ever know that he was following me unless you gave me that message. We've exchanged dms, which I will screenshot and send to you at a later date. But his team, the University of Alabama. I need a temp check on Kaylin DeBoer. Where we're at, there was a whole conversation around the quarterback and is, is he going to leave? I heard rumors about him possibly going over to Tennessee if he didn't get a first round grade and he wasn't going to go in the NFL because a lot of people were thinking this backup quarterback who, you know, Garrett Hargis, our number one Alabama fan here at the bus, was talking about that kid. He's the one. He's the truth. You watch him in pre games before the SEC championship. You're like, oh, I completely understand why people are about this kid. He ends up leaving, going to the NFL draft. I want to know about were there any truth of these rumors in your mind now that the time has passed? And this is usually we can talk about these things. And from a fan base perspective, from your dad's perspective, who seems like he's got his, his finger on the pulse of what goes down with the Crimson Tide. How are we feeling about Kalyn DeBoer?

[Josh Pate]

All right, first thing in retrospect, Ty Simpson was never going to do anything other than go to the draft because he had mega offers on the table. I mean, he had a mega offer from Miami on the table and I got respect for it. I got a lot of respect for it. Cause his reasoning was I was a captain at Alabama. I got my hands in the, in the concrete there at Alabama. I don't want to be looked back on as a guy that, that just sort of threw that away and went elsewhere. That's such an old school, like bygone way of thinking. I could not have any more respect for that. I wish there was more of it. So Keelan Russell is the name to know in Alabama. Keelan Russell was a five star. I believe he was rated five stars out of high school last year. And they had a situation where he could come in and he could red shirt because Ty was there. I went and watched them practice a few times. I go to as many practices with as many teams as I can. And Keelan Russell, I don't. You've been around it, man. You've been around high level athletes and you just know when one is different, especially a quarterback, you know when one is different. Now, that doesn't mean they're ready to play at that moment. But when you witness elite, like, like physical traits, there's no mistake in that. They don't blend in. They stand out from the package. So that guy's got that. I was Shocked. This is me personally speaking. I had no knowledge of it. I was shocked that they did not lose Austin Mack in the Portal because Austin Mack is another pretty good quarterback. You saw him come in in the Rose bowl against Indiana when Ty Simpson went down, made some good throws. I know for a fact that when he transferred from Washington to Alabama, I guess two cycles ago now, there were some other teams that wanted him bad. But Mac had come up in DeBoer system and he had played under DeBoer. He just wanted to go continue to develop under Kaylin DeBoer. But look, they're going to have a competition this spring and I'm not saying they won't. I'm telling you unequivocally, I think Keelan Russell will win that competition. And that's why I was just kind of surprised. Again, it's kind of a bygone concept that a guy is okay staying at a program and developing. So hats off to Austin Mack as well. As for the Kaylin DeBoer thing, I think there's a healthy amount of not so much doubt. I think there's. There's sort of a prove it to me people begging him to prove it to me because they want to believe in him. Like there's Some like the 10% that are always negative. Remove them for a second. Let's go. Like with the core fan base, they got high expectations, but that was always going to be the case. If you went to Alabama, I think they're looking and they're saying, we, we're dying to have a reason to believe. And it's not like they went 7 and 6. They went to the playoff, they won a playoff game. They were beat to death at the end of the year. What they want is they want to look like Miami looks like on the line of scrimmage. That's what they want to look like. They want the idea that when someone faces them, they fear that they're facing a bully. Instead of, you're Alabama and you're going to play Indiana and you're trying to find ways like sleight of hand, smoking mirrors, let's see how we can hang in the this game. That should never be the vibe with Alabama. So I think that's the vibe from the fan base right now. Now you, you just fired an offensive line coach and you get a guy from USC in there and there's a lot of hope that like, okay, that's going to help us turn the corner and now we'll be able to run the ball again. And look I sit here from the outside, not even halfway claiming to know the ins and outs of why they can't run the ball. I just know that that's got to get fixed. That's got to be a non negotiable.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

So that's the thing I'm watching for. They're bringing in an excellent true freshman, but will be a true freshman at tailback. Keelan Russell I think will win that job. But they got a really good quarterback room position situation right now. I don't know. I think they're yet another team. I think they're going to be in the mix, but I'm not ready to say, oh, they've definitively turned some corner yet. Cause it's January.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yep, it's January. Everything else right now is just speculation and fun. I love, I love the conversation around Austin Mack. Austin Mack, correct. The kid that came in. Yeah. During the Rose Bowl. The idea of delayed gratification is such a thing that you said like it's an old school way of thinking. You see it happening in the Northwest with Dante. Dante Moore and his choose. His. Him choosing to come back for another year when he was clearly the number two pick. And just the way the NFL cycle works. He started to be argued as the number one pick as we got closer and closer. Once he saw his combine numbers all the thing people would find a way to say this kid's better than Fernando Mendoza and then it'd probably still end up one and two. He comes back for another year. They also got a kid, Dylan Raiola from Nebraska that it's. It's very interesting to see culturally Dan Lanning's ability and what seems like Kaylin Deborah's ability to keep quarterbacks at bay when it seems like everyone's first inclination is just to run to the transfer portal over and over again. But Oregon's. Oregon's not the team I want to talk about. The team I want to talk about is Ohio State. Arthur Smith, friend of mine, he was a GA type of. That was kind of like he was a Titans assistance assistant. When I first got to the Tennessee Titans in 2014, he was a guy that did all the grunt work, slowly worked his way up, became the OC at the Titans, went over to Atlanta as the head coach. Didn't work out there. Found himself at the Steelers this year and was interviewing for head coaching jobs after the season. He ends up finding home in the worst possible place in my opinion because I have so much respect for him and I think he's a great coach in Columbus, Ohio. So now you've got Ryan Day, who is a person that from an NFL perspective, it seemed like there were some rumors, rumblings similar to Marcus Freeman of jumping and going to the NFL. His was maybe a little bit lower than Marcus Freeman, where Marcus Freeman had said, yeah, I'm not doing that. And now you have an OC and a DC that were NFL head coaches at one point. So I know you had to dig into your bag a little bit with the NFL, but what does Arthur Smith bring to the table? This is his word to use for me. Ohio State has a roster that is better than some NFL rosters right now. And that is a big reason why he chose to go and become an OC at Ohio State. That pissed me off. And my text back was, I'd love to see how good Julian sand really is without the aliens around him. Joking, of course. I think Julian sand is a great quarterback. But I want to know your perspective from Ohio State. Is this a pissed off Buckeye team?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, of course.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Clearly.

[Josh Pate]

Of course it is. Yes. You've built a world there in Ryan Day's Ohio State where I don't know what the closest Saban's Alabama maybe would be the closest cop of how he could just. It's an ecosystem almost. It's not even just a football program. It's an entire ecosystem where it's totally plausible for NFL borderline head coach or former head coaching caliber types to just get a year or two in as a coordinator there. But here's the other beauty in it. And you'll notice this kind of parallels what Saban ended up doing. Saban would bring in all these guys at Alabama and he would say, I'm not bringing their system here. They're coming here to run my system. They're coming here to run the Alabama offense. That's kind of what Ohio State is now. It's like Ohio State's got the Ohio State offense. You're going to come here and run it. We're going to win. You're going to look great if you don't have the opportunities you want. Now, fast forward 11 months and you will. And so it mutually benefits all of us. And that's, that's kind of the, that's kind of the ecosystem there. Now I also think once you won a national title, I'm not saying the pressure's ever off. You're always under immense pressure as the head coach at Ohio State, but I think now it's more just purely competitive pressure. There's not an ounce of job Security pressure. Not that there ever should have been, but there was. But there's no more of that. Like your process, your methods are proven. And now you. I mean, you just. It's rinse, repeat, and, you know, like we just said with three other four other teams, you're going to be there every year. They were already there before they won the title. They were in position.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

They couldn't get over the Michigan hump. But even before that, that Georgia semifinal game where they miss a field goal at midnight in the semifinals, they would have gone on to slaughter tcu. Like, they would have easily gone on to do that. So they're that close to winning a title four years prior. It's like, Ryan Day has always been a stud. He's always been that guy. Now, my question to you is, you know good and well he had multiple candidates for this coordinator position. Right. Do you think that. And I'm not saying this is the way it worked. Let's just say for argument's sake, Ryan Day has six finalists for this job, and they're all pretty equal. In his mind, knowing the relationship you guys have now. Well established.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Do you think if he knows that picking option five is going to put you on tilt emotionally a little bit, that that's enough to push option 5 over the finish line and get option 5, in this case, Arthur Smith, the job?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

So you're saying, does Ryan Day think about me so much that he's making coaching hires in order to get under my skin?

[Josh Pate]

If now, this is not that it gives a guy a leg up if all the candidates are pretty equal, like, he thinks I could close my eyes and throw a dart, whichever balloon it hits, I'll win no matter what. If option number five, there, author Smith, comes with the added benefit of keeping you up at night. Is Ryan Day making the hire of option five.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

100%? Absolutely, 100%. And it's like a lot of people, like, probably sitting there right now being like, oh, Taylor, it's main character syndrome. Listen, Ryan Day declined coming on bus with the boys. And then they beat. They beat Michigan. And 12 hours later, it was, oh, by the way, he has availability now. So Ryan Day is playing chess in my brain right now. He's got the 20th floor penthouse suite in my brain. And he's got free range because he's done it. And as much as I don't like it, I respect the man now like he is. He is doing a good job of trolling. And by hiring Arthur Smith, who I consider a friend is just crazy and what I consider even crazier is I had to find out on the Internet, Josh Pate, that Arthur Smith took this job. And I had to find out from my own bus with the boys account that he took this job. And I know this is all Ryan Day is doing just to get under my skin. Because you're right. They're going to win no matter what.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, I got. I got a text. I'll let you guess who sent this to me right now. It says, today is Monday, tomorrow is Tuesday, but every day is Ryan Day.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That son of a man. Good luck.

[Josh Pate]

Good luck. Arthur Smith.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I got Whittingham. I got Bryce Underwood with an actual quarterback coach. I'm not good. I'm back.

[Josh Pate]

Good. We're back.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Exactly. I am back. Don't you worry about me. Josh Beck. You heard of him. He's going, hey, we're going to have a creative offense. We have an exciting offense. Josh, we appreciate you. Thank you for taking the time from Georgia. You are the man. I'm looking. I'm so looking forward to you, me, and Willie C. Chasing tornadoes this year. It's going to be amazing sniffing out.

[Josh Pate]

On the open plane. You know what? We may end up in Norman, Oklahoma. You got some unsettled scores to finish there as well, so who knows where we'll end up?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, yeah. Mitch's mouth and Bud Light question to me. Listen, anyone would do anything for an ice cold Bud Light. All right, I don't know if we have the camera. We have a whole keg sitting right here. What is something that Josh Pate would do anything for and you cannot say anything about family. Strictly selfish.

[Josh Pate]

Okay, so it can be selfish. I don't have to give the requisite.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, no, no family. We all know you throw that throw out now. We're done with that.

[Jeremy Klump]

Maybe something weather related.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Ooh, maybe something I think he's already said on the show. Me personally, if I'm. If I'm in Josh Bates. Josh Bates brain. I think I know what you should say. It's whether or not you say it or not.

[Josh Pate]

Does it have anything to do with private aviation?

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Now it does.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. All right. There is a dream scenario. You and I, we have spoken about the joint private jet venture many times. And our big. Our big hang up is what we would spray paint on the side.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

But let's just.

[Josh Pate]

Let's just table that for a second. I mean, imagine private helicopter access during a chase, because at that point, you're no longer handcuffed by the winding roads and limited access and you just. You go after it, you attack it.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That. So you want private helicopter access to chase a tornado, which is horrible weather.

[Josh Pate]

Yes.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

That sounds terrifying. I thought you were gonna sit there and be like, buy a plane. And I'd be like, hell, yes. That is 100%. If I could do anything that would probably. Aside from family. Well, I would want that. But a private helicopter?

[Josh Pate]

I gotta have maneuverability. Oh, my light went out. I gotta have maneuverability.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

Yeah, that sounds. Dude, that sounds so scary to me.

[Jeremy Klump]

Also sounds so sick.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

It sounds so sick to be in a helicopter. How close could you get to a tornado in a helicopter, Buddy?

[Julian Edelman]

There's.

[Josh Pate]

There's. It seems to me there's only one way to find out.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

I love it. You know what? I'm getting on that helicopter with you. I'm getting on that helicopter with you.

[Josh Pate]

I got. I got some forms you'll need to fill out, but yeah, I welcome that.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

They'll be. They'll be filled out with white knuckles. I'll be so terrified, but I'll do it. All right, Joshi. I appreciate you, brother. Let's give a round applause. Just me and Mitch giving you a round of applause from a distance. Let me know when you head back. You mentioned Wednesday. If it is Wednesday, just keep me posted. I want to make sure my boy's safe.

[Josh Pate]

Will do. I'll be in touch.

[Taylor (Bus with the Boys Host)]

All right, brother. We'll talk to you soon.

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