Josh Pate Picks Arch Manning & Texas Over Oklahoma + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan Ride With Oregon

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys – Episode Summary

Episode: Josh Pate Picks Arch Manning & Texas Over Oklahoma + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan Ride With Oregon
Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan
Guest: Josh Pate

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Overview

This episode is a lively, analytic, and irreverent ride through the top college football matchups of the week, full of locker-room candor, banter, and insider insight. The boys are joined by college football analyst Josh Pate to preview Michigan vs. USC, Texas vs. Oklahoma, Ohio State vs. Illinois, Alabama vs. Missouri, and Indiana vs. Oregon. Along the way, the crew debates picks, trash-talks teams and coaches (with love), and gets meta about picking against their own biases and past mistakes. There’s also talk of streaks, trends, transitive properties, and coaching rumors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage and State of the Record Books (00:00 – 05:01)

• Spooktober, records update: Taylor leads at 18-14, Josh at 16-16, Will at 14-18—"Everything's real close. A lot of weeks left. We have a lot of games to go over." (A, 00:32)
• The boys set a tone of competition, camaraderie, and good-natured ribbing, promising both serious analysis and fun.

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2. Commissioner’s Poll and Poll Positioning (05:01 – 08:47)

• Arguments about Georgia Tech vs. Mizzou in the top 10.
• Josh confesses the order was a virtual coin flip, revealing how tough decisions are sometimes made in poll-making.

  "We take five minutes on it, and I said, just put them down in whatever order." (B, 06:00)

• Cincinnati over Nebraska: Josh justifies going beyond head-to-head due to better recent performances.
• Banter about Dogs of the Week records—Will: “Your boy is 6-1 on dogs this year.”

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3. Game Previews and Picks

Michigan at USC (08:55 – 19:40)

• Michigan Bias vs. Analysis:
  • Taylor: Deep Michigan bias but admits nerves, especially with USC’s explosive offense and the blitz stat:

    "I would love to just go on a rampage about Michigan and how they're going to dominate... But Jordan Maava does great against the blitz—completion percentage against the Blitz is like 87.5%." (A, 09:12)

  • Will: Feels USC's offense is too much for Michigan, questioning Michigan's ability to keep up and concluding:

    "USC since 2022, since Lincoln rally showed up as a home favorite. They're 18-2 after a bye week... I like USC in this spot." (C, 14:22)

  • Josh: Despite making the case for USC, ultimately rides with Michigan:

    “If I'm going to be wrong here, I'm going to be wrong riding with Michigan. I'm taking Michigan to win the game.” (B, 18:31)

• Banter about game nerves, last year’s explosive Michigan runs vs. USC, and mutual ribbing about fandom.

Red River Shootout: Texas vs. Oklahoma (19:45 – 31:24)

• Texas favored by 1.5.
• Josh Pate clarifies he’s not a Texas hater:

  "I wasn't a Texas hater. I was a Texas truth teller last week... I think Texas wins." (B, 22:10)

• Will backs Oklahoma, charmed by QB John Mateer:

  "If Mattier plays 100%, 80%, 75%, I like them pushing the ball down the field enough to win this game." (A, 27:16)

• Discussion about desperation, wounded animal theory, and coaching hot seats (Sark at Texas).

Ohio State at Illinois (32:30 – 39:47)

• Ohio State favored by 14.5.
• Taylor prefers Illinois +14.5:

  “For me it’s just too many points. It’s a lot of points at Illinois.” (A, 33:23)

• Will and Josh both acknowledge Illinois is underrated but Will picks OSU to cover:

  “I just think Ohio State's going to be ready to go... they're going to go into Illinois, and I think they cover this.” (C, 35:05)
  “Ohio State has so few possessions right now offensively—they just grind the game to a halt... But I'll take Ohio State to win and cover.” (B, 36:18)

• More ‘transitive property’ jokes and nerd-out on mid-season team comparisons.

Alabama at Missouri (42:50 – 52:03)

• Alabama favored by 3.5.
• Taylor loves Bama, especially after they “buried Georgia”:

  “This is my favorite pick of the entire week. I think Missouri... they haven’t really played anybody.” (A, 43:31)

• Will is wary of Alabama’s "trend" issues on the road.
• Josh notes Missouri’s defensive stats are legit but has concerns about how they scale vs. elite:

  “…You can't know until you know. But I am going to by the slightest of margins, bank on Missouri having a little bit of a scaling issue... Very slight lean Alabama minus the points.” (B, 50:00)

• Will takes Missouri plus the points based on matchups and emotional letdown potential for Bama.

Indiana at Oregon – True Classic Game of the Week (53:47 – 63:44)

• Oregon favors by 7.5.
• Indiana’s talking trash (Kurt Signetti) sets up hype.
• Will and Taylor are extremely confident in Oregon:

  “I think Oregon beats their ass again. This is another team traveling out to the West Coast.” (C, 59:02)

• Josh is the lone voice for Indiana +7.5, believing their QB can keep up and “trade points.”

  "I just think they can trade points. I think it's going to be a one-possession type game." (B, 62:13)

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4. Dogs of the Week & Parlays (63:44 – 72:26)

• Underdog picks:
  • Will: Florida (+7.5 at Texas A&M): “Gator magic is real.”
  • Taylor: UCLA +9.5 vs. Michigan State (admitting it’s a gut pick, maybe not wise)
  • Josh: Kansas +14.5 vs. Texas Tech: “This is going to be a knife fight.”
• Quick recap of previous parlay winners, including a wild success story plus 258,000 odds.

  “Who takes UCLA over Penn State? A psychopath.” (C, 75:59)

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5. Rumors & Coaching Carousel (40:01, 65:14, 73:29)

• Matt Rhule coaching rumors:
  • Joking worry about him leaving Nebraska.
  • If Penn State or Florida open, could Rhule be in the mix? “It’d be bad for college football if Matt Rhule left Nebraska.” (B, 40:36)
• Hugh Freeze (Auburn) hot-seat speculation.
• General sense a coaching "crisis" and shakeup could be brewing nationally:

  “It sounds like there could be a lot of dominoes about to fall… and I feel like maybe, just maybe… that there could be some craziness about to happen in the coaching world.” (B, 73:55)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On picking against your bias:

  “I’ve worked on my Michigan problem quietly. I don’t want to be labeled a hero, but I’ve done the work off camera, I’ve done the work in the dark so that I can come to you in the light and say, if I’m going to be wrong here, I’m going to be wrong riding with Michigan.” – Josh Pate (18:15)

• On the Red River Shootout name:

  “When I was born, the game is called the Red River Shootout, okay? Somewhere along the way it got changed, but I never changed it.” – Josh (19:52)

• On the transitive property:

  “...The didn’t-know-ball crowd just started talking about the transitive property. They thought they had football licked. Well, if A beat B and B beat C, how could C possibly beat A? And then C would beat A...” – Josh (31:00)

• On Missouri's defense:

  “What gives me the most concern for Alabama is... this is a bigger challenge for Bama’s offensive line than Georgia was. Georgia can't pressure the quarterback. Missouri can.” – Josh (49:28)

• On coaching drama:

  “We’re the night before the 2008 crisis happened and all of America’s laying their head down on their pillow, completely oblivious... everything’s about to take a nosedive into the ocean. ...that there could be some craziness about to happen in the coaching world.” – Josh (73:55)

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Timestamps – Key Segments

• Records, Spooktober banter: 00:00–05:01
• Commissioner's poll debates: 05:01–08:47
• Michigan vs. USC: 08:55–19:40
• Texas vs. Oklahoma (Red River): 19:45–31:24
• Ohio State vs. Illinois: 32:30–39:47
• Alabama vs. Missouri: 42:50–52:03
• Indiana vs. Oregon (True Classic Game): 53:47–63:44
• Dogs of the Week/Parlays: 63:44–72:26
• Coaching rumors and dominoes: 40:01, 65:14, 73:29

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Tone & Style

• Locker room humor, brotherly ball-busting, and pop culture riffs (Animal House, Rob Zombie’s Halloween, Butterfly Effect).
• Honest, sometimes self-deprecating football intelligence mixed with wild college football lore and rumor-mongering.
• Plenty of inside jokes about “paper poppers,” “wounded animals,” and coaching “streaks vs. trends.”

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For New Listeners

• This episode is a masterclass in passionate but humorous college football analysis, with plenty of sharp, sometimes emotional perspective on both the X’s and O’s and the broader storylines in the sport.
• If you want to know not just who the hosts are picking, but why—and how fandom, stats, and vibes intersect in making those picks—this is a must-listen.
• Expect more than picks: you’ll get culture, rumors, legacy talk, and plenty of laughs.

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Summary Table – Picks

| Game | Will's Pick | Taylor's Pick | Josh Pate's Pick | |------------------------|--------------|---------------|------------------| | Michigan at USC | USC | Michigan | Michigan | | Texas vs. Oklahoma | Oklahoma | Texas | Texas | | Ohio State at Illinois | Ohio State | Illinois | Ohio State | | Alabama at Missouri | Missouri | Alabama | Alabama (lean) | | Indiana at Oregon | Oregon | Oregon | Indiana (+7.5) |

Dogs of the Week:

• Will: Florida (+7.5)
• Taylor: UCLA (+9.5)
• Josh: Kansas (+14.5)

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Memorable Closer:

“Somehow we’re all gonna end up three and two again.” (A, 76:19)

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Listen for:

• Betting leans and serious analysis
• Michigan and Oklahoma “problems”
• Banter about coaching carousels, wounded animals, and college football chaos
• The unique vibes of Bussin’ With The Boys: authenticity, competition, and full-send fun

Transcript

[A]

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and happy Spooktober. We're officially in week two. Spooktober. Do me a favor as you're watching this show on YouTube, subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe, leave a comment. What should you leave? I don't know. A pumpkin. Because it's Spooktober. Let's take a look at the records last week. Three and two across the board for everybody, so everything stays the same. Myself in first place, 18 and 14. Josh Pate, commissioner, he's batting.500 right now. And sweet little Willie, he's down 14. 18. Good thing about this is everything's real close. A lot of weeks left. We have a lot of games to go over. Michigan, usc. Michigan travels to usc. And then our game of the week, Indiana at Oregon. Dan Lanning versus Kurt Signetti. We got. There's rumors going around that Kurt Signetti has leaked text messages about what he said about Dan Lanning. You'll find out on this show. Again, subscribe unsubscribe resubscribe Spooky season. This is the locker room.

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Gentlemen, here we are.

[A]

Yeah, welcome in. You guys are having a conversation about Nebraska, Maryland.

[C]

More so. More so. Gambling.

[A]

More so gambling.

[B]

But you know, every conversation that William and I have about Nebraska has happened in your presence. We have never talked about Nebraska behind your back.

[A]

I don't believe that that's. Knowing what content. He's a guy that gets you in the corner and he'll talk. He'll talk about the Huskers whether you like it or not. Similar to what he said a couple of weeks ago about Chef Josh. Like, that is Chef Jack.

[B]

Excuse me, Chef Jack.

[A]

Josh staring at Josh. Jack over there in the corner.

[C]

But.

[A]

When we were we. As you say, you're like, you love Nebraska this week over Maryland. I feel very confident about Nebraska covering it's Maryland as well. Until you said it's your favorite pick of the week. Because a few weeks ago at the Bus and Bowl, it was also your favorite pick of the week for Nebraska.

[B]

Which makes you think, haven't I doubled down on being guarded before I ever say something like that again.

[A]

Now it does. Yeah, now it does. I wasn't before, but now you've really, you've really sold me.

[B]

Can I tell you this, both of you? I would like to tell everyone in the room this. So a high level mustache type, an executive at a media company, text me last week, it was Wednesday night, It was like 8 o'. Clock. The episode had just dropped. He said, you know what, man, you guys have great chemistry on that show. It's a great mixture of there's, there's enough meat on the bone for the analytical types, there's enough humor for the casual types. Not that we're just looking to attract casuals here, but I said, thanks, man. And then I was sitting there thinking to myself as I drove in this morning, it's really easy to have fun and be lighthearted. The first half of the season. But then you start looking at the records every week, right? Then the pumpkins come out and you try and lock in, and you tend to get a little more serious the second half of the year. So what I think we have to do is we have to guard against that. We have to be the right level of serious, but also the right level of fun. Because what do we have if we don't have fun?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And that brings me to the commissioner's poll. Good level of serious, good level of fun. Georgia Tech top 10 haven't lost the game yet over Mizzou, who's undefeated. Sell me on why Georgia Tech is over Mizzou. And look, this is very small. It's 10 or 11. You can, like you said, with 1 and 2, Ohio State, Miami, you can swap them. But why in your brain is it, am I going to troll the country with this one?

[B]

Because. No, no, no, it's not that. I'm just nodding along with your statement. I'm not saying. Yes, you're right.

[C]

Okay, so talk to me about how Georgia Tech's, what two best wins are. Clemson, who we know about now. They're not even in your poll. Wake Forest. They escaped that game. Then you look at Mizzou beating Kansas, beating South Carolina, I would say that those couple wins would outweigh what we know about Clemson now. And a little, you know, kind of a fluky game there at the end with a Wake Forest team.

[B]

So last night when we were putting the commissioner's poll together, I was sitting at our table in our studio, and there were two of them. One was one that you're going to bring up. The other was this. It was Missouri, and it was. Who'd you just mentioned? Georgia Tech. So it was like coin flip either way. So eventually we take five minutes on it, and I said, just put them down in whatever order. So that was basically the extent of what it came down to. Would it make you feel better if I flipped them?

[C]

Yeah, it would.

[B]

Well, I can't do it because we already made the graphic, but I'd be okay.

[C]

You can put out an official statement, the sense of a little notes app screenshot.

[B]

We could do that. We could do that. But the good news for Missouri is they got Alabama this week, which we're going to talk about in the show. So if they beat Alabama, no one's arguing them or Georgia Tech, they're like, solidly in the top 10, top eight, top six, whatever.

[C]

All right, so you can go ahead and talk about the second question. I'm going to ask. Because I don't even need to ask it.

[B]

All right, so I'll read his lines on the prompter here. How could you possibly have. Roll it. Cincinnati over Nebraska. And it's a great question.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. If it were week two or week three, we would have to strictly honor the head to head. We have gotten six weeks into the season now, so I've got a little bit more than just head to head. So I looked at Cincinnati last week and what they did against Iowa State and Iowa State at that point was in my top 15. And I thought they beat them. It had kind of had like a Miami FSU vibe where the final score was way closer than the game was. So pretty emphatic result against Iowa State at that point. I think I had them a little bit behind Nebraska, so then that bumped him a little bit ahead of Nebraska. So I think the resume overall has enough meat on the bone where there's a little bit more juice in the Cincinnati corner to where I didn't go head to head. Because if they were just equal, I would have gone head to head. I would have put Nebraska ahead of Cincinnati.

[C]

Right. Just take Cincinnati's resume, add three points, and that's Nebraska.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

So just something to think about next.

[B]

Just something to think about.

[C]

We got to take care of business down in Maryland, but we have a lot of great games we're talking about here. We got Michigan, usc, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State, Illinois, Alabama, Missouri. We got Indiana, Oregon. We got some dogs of the week, which by the way, Your boy is 6 and 1 on his dogs of the week for the year. What's is Josh Pate six and one as well. Five. And we're both five and one. Two and four, two and four. Taylor two and four on dogs parlay. We lost to parlay last week. That's a hand up. My fault. I moved the line. Nebraska minus 16 and a half. They should have covered that. Michigan State had a trash touchdown at the end of the game. But let's talk. The first game of the week wasn't.

[A]

Michigan State up 21, 2014.

[C]

Yeah, and then Huskers woke up 24 unanswered. Gotcha.

[B]

Cover the original line.

[A]

Nah, fuck.

[C]

We're talking about the parlay line movement we had here, right?

[A]

You guys are doing great in win loss categories that don't count towards the show. I need. I probably need to do a better job of focusing on my parlay and my dog of the week. I just put everything into these five games that we talk about. Every single week.

[C]

I mean, and look, I'm moving off. I'm moving off the Huskers for everybody this week. I got a different. I got a different team to parlay.

[A]

That's big.

[C]

Love the Huskers.

[A]

That's big of you. First game you talked about is near and dear to my heart. It's Michigan at usc. USC is favored minus two and a half. This game is at night in the Coliseum. And total points in that game is 57 and a half. I would love to just go on a rampage about Michigan and how they're going to dominate. And I do think toughness beats pretty nine times out of 10. But Jordan Maava, the quarterback for USC, he does great against the blitz who blitzes the Most in all Power 4 Michigan. So I think his all completion percentage against the Blitz is like 87.5%. He's only taken one sack. So there's a lot of areas, if you're a Michigan fan, to be nervous about this game. This is what I'll say about that. Everybody that USC has played from a blitzing standpoint is a pedestrian defense compared to Michigan hasn't played. Derrick Moore, who's going to be a day two pick. Jayshawn Barham, who's going to be a day one pick. Both of our linebackers are going to get drafted in the NFL. We got a front seven that's willing to murder you. And we got that safety. What's his name? Hillman. What's your favorite player in college football? Brandon Hillman. My God. Couple that with Bryce Underwood going for 270 last week, running for over 125 yards against the number one rush defense in all the country. I'm obviously biased in the situation. I'm going to take Michigan Moneyline. I'm biased. I understand that. I'll let you guys break down the logic of everything else because right now I can't look at it any other way, but I am nervous. For me to say I'm not nervous.

[C]

Is everybody that's watching at home right now, I think can smell it through.

[A]

Their screen, his little rattle.

[C]

He's not even trying to have a.

[A]

Chance to sat there before the show and was like, this is the game. Like, if you don't win this game, it's all right. I's gotta be on 26 because you got the quarterback, you got all the things, but this is the game. It's like, who are we going to be?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I'm nervous about it because you know you'll be a part of the year.

[C]

The part that I hate is that, like, you drop this game, it's all eyes on 26. Like, there's still so much to see.

[A]

We're in week seven, but still all eyes on 26 for me.

[B]

So the only loss you have is Oklahoma.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's an out of conference game.

[A]

Should have won that one.

[B]

Out of conference, Debatable. Out of conference game.

[A]

Should have won that game.

[B]

First conference loss, we're moving on to 26.

[A]

Listen, man, it's. You gotta beat USC's ass here. I mean, you look back at the last. The last time we played, we could not throw the ball. We had no. 4 pass. We had it turned off in our settings. If you're playing a video game and.

[B]

Still 290 on the ground.

[A]

And we put. And we did a two minute drill at the end of the game to win. And we just ran the ball up the middle. USC has gotten bigger on the defensive side of the ball and the offensive side of the ball in the trenches.

[C]

The boys are growing up a little bit out there on the West Coast.

[A]

They've gotten bigger. But you put on the Illinois game, it's like, oh, there's the game plan right there. If you are a tough football team to beat usc.

[B]

Yeah. What's the matter with you?

[A]

I'm just nervous. This is me. This is me and my, like, my fandom being like, bro, I gotta have it.

[B]

The last gthi, last time I watched this team go on the road, was it Nebraska? Was that the last road game? And I mean, I had the pleasure, the distinct honor of standing next to you. I've never seen a chest that big. I've never seen eyes that wide. I've never seen confidence ooze out of a person. And they validated your belief. And now Lincoln Riley. That's Lincoln Riley. Has you shook Lincoln? You ran for 290 without.

[A]

I can't be my true self in this situation.

[B]

I just didn't know. I just expected more from your true self.

[A]

I listen regardless of who else is sitting on this set. Nebraska was a much less talented team, much more beneath Michigan. Oh, I knew that. And their game plan showed that.

[C]

Hurt people, hurt people. That's what's happening right now.

[A]

That's truly. Like, I've said that vocally. Like, I just think Nebraska wasn't there from a talent standpoint. USC matches up well against Michigan. I gave you the blitz stat, Lemon. They're getting another wide receiver back. Their quarterback can run the ball as well as pass the ball. They have a Good offense. And so I'm excited to watch this defense stand up. But then I watch the Wisconsin game. There's a lot of holes when you're blitzing that much. Wink Martindale, he's blitzing more than he did last year and I was getting a little nervous about that. So this is like a nervous game for me. Luckily, I'm not playing Saturday. I get to get off a plane because we're gonna get back real fast. Clump from Red river rivalry. I'm gonna rush my ass home, I'm gonna put that thing on and I'm gonna be excited for every single snap. But as I sit here, I can't. You know, I'm looking at my record. I have a standard to uphold for the people that are watching me. 18 and 14. I just think, listen, I am biased. I'm in a blender about this one. I think it's going to work out for us, but I am a little nervous.

[B]

Do you want to go?

[C]

Sure. We can talk some ball. I think Michigan's a good football team. I think when I was watching, when I was going back and looking at the, the usc, Illinois game, like USC fumbling on the first drive, Illinois, one of their scores is a double reverse touchdown. USC had a massive play, a touchdown called back for an illegal man downfield. And when they had to have it, USC got very lucky with the fumble recovery before halftime. Buddy was down, his elbow was down. USC gets the football. But there's 49 seconds left before halftime and they go down 65 yards. They don't punch it in, they're inside the 10, they end up kicking a field goal. And then at the end of the game when they had to go up one, they're marching down the field fast. I personally think USC has too much offense for Michigan because Michigan's going to have to keep up. And when we sat on the show and talked about Illinois, USC and it was like, you know, you know, I basically just said, why not Illinois? We talked about how they would have to make it a phone booth game because they can run the ball pretty well. But honestly, it wasn't even very much like a phone booth game. Like Luke Altenheimer.

[B]

Altmeyer. No, no, stick with Altenheimer.

[C]

Altenheimer. Luke altenheimer. Luke altenheimer's 20 for 26, 320 plus yards. Like he's got some good drop back game where he's slinging it around, painting it near the sideline, everything else. And when I watch Michigan's offense, there's not a Lot of true pass game. It's, you got to move the pocket, it's play action, it's perimeter, it's. And I just don't think offensively they're built to kind of keep up with USC because in my opinion USC is going to score. So when I look at this game and then I look at Justice Haynes, you look at, he's got what, 654 yards on the season. Five carries of those go for like 305 yards. Like half of his carries are from. Or half of his yards are from five carries. Five explosive plays where he's untouched running to the end zone. So I just, I feel like USC and here's just a stat too. USC since 2022, since Lincoln rally showed up as a home favorite. They're 18 and two after a bye week. They are five and one. That's a paper popper. Yeah, I just, I like USC in this spot. I think Michigan, I think they're a little too inconsistent right now on offense. And right now it's like if I want to go Michigan, I'm kind of hanging my hat on a couple of just explosive plays happening because they'll have three and outs, you know, they'll have, they'll have just drives that are kind of weird where whether Bryce is overthrowing a little bit a receiver dropping a football. So I'm going to go USC here.

[A]

Marsh, five star freshman, four receptions for 80 yards. Donovan McColley, six receptions for 112 yards last game. Pushing the ball down the field. Yeah, pushing the ball.

[B]

So you mentioned the explosive plays from Michigan and I've been caught in this trap before. I've been caught in the trap.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Hey, as long as so and so limits the explosive run. Like I've been caught in that trap of. Let's take Justice Haynes, one or two long runs away. What else did he do? Oh, Otherwise he was 2.7 yards per carry and then he pops two explosive runs on me and it's irrelevant. Like if he does it every game, it's irrelevant. So last year in this game, Michigan had touchdown runs of 53, 41. They had a 63 yard run to set up the game winner. So they had it in this game last year. They had it without a quarterback that was any threat to throw the ball last year. Now you at least have a threat to throw the ball. You got a good tailback tandem again, but you really got a good lead tailback. What I am very curious about is what if USC grabs a lead? What if they can just get up 17 to 3. What if they force Michigan into a really unfamiliar spot, A spot that I don't know if we trust them to come from behind. I don't know if we trust them to throw the ball to win the game. But that's game script stuff. So if it doesn't start that way, if it's just a standardized game, what I have trouble doing is I have trouble blindly trusting USC to win a fistfight. If you could turn the game into that which Michigan will, because it's their identity. Very rarely do they face one of these teams and not at least insert the physical element into the game. Most of the times they win those games, at the very least, they insert that element into the game. So the one thing I remember about the Oklahoma game is Oklahoma got after Underwood a little bit, they pressured him a little bit and. And USC is not going to garner respect defensively, nationally, and that's okay. They are a top 25 pressure rate team. So if you can't run the ball on early downs, they do have the ability, if they earn the right to rush the passer, they do have the ability to pressure Underwood. So I'm making the case for usc. But then I remember the Nebraska game, namely afterwards, you're laid out behind me, I'm at least able to sit up, but I'm on camera talking about how Michigan did it to me again, how I picked against him again, how I had a Michigan problem. So I've worked on my Michigan problem quietly. I don't want to be labeled a hero, but I've done the work off camera, I've done the work in the dark so that I can come to you in the light and say, if I'm going to be wrong here, I'm going to be wrong riding with Michigan. I'm taking Michigan to win the game. It feels so weird for the words to come out of my mouth. I'm taking Michigan. Feels good though, doesn't feels. It feels something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm taking Michigan to win.

[A]

That's what life's all about, is just feeling something in general.

[B]

Yeah, good.

[C]

Get a little dopamine.

[A]

You gotta feel something.

[B]

So if we go down, we're going down together.

[A]

I love that. I love having you on my side for this one. And it's very fitting that Will takes USC in this.

[B]

But hey, but hey, it's not personal, brother.

[A]

I know it's not. You like the shiny object, I get it.

[C]

It's more like, like if this game was at this game.

[A]

This is not a personal. I Don't think it's personal at all. Go ahead.

[C]

I was just going to say if this game is at Michigan, I'm probably going the other way because I just think these teams, like we have so much evidence of outside of like a team like Ohio State, but you have just the evidence of teams just struggling, especially more so in the first half when they're traveling to a coast game or west coast is coming to the Midwest, or you look at Maryland and Washington last week, Washington ends up getting that game, but it was 20 to nothing going into the fourth quarter. And again, it's just like USC's offense. I just watched them like they have some really good players. I think they're going to have a good plan and have a bad taste in their mouth, losing a game they shouldn't have to Illinois and having a bye week to kind of sit on it. But yeah. Should we go to the Red River Shootout? Red River Rivalry.

[B]

We should.

[A]

What is it? So, yeah, I heard you guys having the conversation. What is the correct terminology of that?

[C]

When I was a college football commissioner, he's a historian now.

[B]

When I was born, the game is called the Red River Shootout, okay? Somewhere along the way it got changed, but I never changed it.

[A]

You never did.

[B]

So in my mind, it's the Red River Shootout. The banners can say whatever they want to. The field can be spray painted whatever it wants to. It's the Red River Shootout in my.

[A]

Household, I love it. Hey, well, do you know Miguel Bolger's got this fun idea. You play for an Ultra. It's like the fun little competitions going down.

[C]

It's simple. It is this simple. You want to play for an Ultra? For us, in the shop, around the shop, it's been rock, paper, scissors. Would you like a. Would you like another go to play for an Ultra?

[A]

Right now, you're two and. Oh, on the show right now.

[C]

Right now.

[A]

So this is yours.

[C]

Yeah, I'll hold.

[A]

I'll be right back with that.

[C]

Shoot. Yeah. One, two, three, shoot.

[E]

God damn.

[C]

One, two, three, Shoot.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

One, two, three, shooters. But that, hey, that's what it's all about. Bragging rights. Superior tastes better when you're a winner.

[A]

Superior is worth playing for.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Michelob Ultra. Superior light beer. And that pisses me off. Not the beer, but what just happened? How do I go in the stream room and dominate everybody and then this shit's gotta happen here. Back to the episode.

[D]

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[A]

Texas is favored one and a half last week.

[B]

How does that happen? How does that happen?

[A]

Last week you hated Texas.

[B]

How does the There were some narratives created out there.

[A]

People, yeah, tell them. Every time I turn on Twitter, it's telling the truth. There were people saying Josh Payton hates Texas.

[B]

Hates them.

[A]

He thinks Arch Manning is a bust. He actually doesn't think any of the meetings were ever actually that good. They were held up teams.

[B]

I should go right for the New York Times. Maybe that's what I should do.

[C]

You got the Red River Shootout. You're choosing to not go to it because Texas is there.

[B]

Texas chose for me not to go to it. Texas screwed it up. I didn't screw my trip to Dallas up. Texas screwed my trip to Dallas up.

[A]

What's that mean for you in this game?

[B]

Texas is going to win. Texas is going to win the game. Make no mistake about it. I wasn't a Texas hater. I was a Texas truth teller last week. I've been an Oklahoma truth teller all year. Did we not sit around this table in the preseason and have me tell you, give me John Mateer for the Heisman. Did I not tell you in the commissioner's poll, give Me Oklahoma Top 10? Did I not say these things? Did I not say last week Texas is in trouble in the Swamp. In fact, give me Florida to win the game outright. Did I not bear the burden of being labeled a Texas hater last week? The answer to all these questions is yes. So I think what that makes me is an authority on this game because I quite literally haven't been wrong about either of these teams all year.

[C]

The sheriff is in town.

[B]

So we walk into that. Well, actually, you guys walk into Dallas. I'll be in Missouri. But people walk into Dallas on Saturday. They've moved this game to 3:30 Eastern. 2:30 Central used to be an 11am kickoff. Whatever.

[C]

You're so much an authority. Like you don't have to go to the game. You're just sending us to the game.

[B]

Yes, I'm dispatching you to the game. Texas has struggled offensively, goes without saying, all right, the same principles that were in play for Florida last week. The reason I like Florida to win is because when you sucked doing something a certain way, you have the least incentive in the world to continue doing that thing that way. I think Texas and their coaching staff expected a whole lot more out of this offensive line. But okay, you got what you got right now. But you still do have scholarship Texas offensive linemen there. You still do have a really highly paid staff. There's. You've got a sponge in your hand. You thought it was full of water. You didn't even have to squeeze it. Okay, well, it turns out you got to squeeze the sponge harder. But there's still enough water in there. You're still good enough. Arch Manning quietly has improved. If he wasn't being pressured on like half of his drop backs, it would be nice. He's having to bear the brunt of all the scrutiny. And Texas offensive line is woefully underachieved. I had a paper popper stat. Their tailbacks have done nothing like Texas running backs. Nine rushes for 11 yards against Florida. So no one else is doing anything either. It's just the New York Times doesn't want to write about Texas running backs or left guards. They want to write about Arch Manning. I don't think Oklahoma's run the ball worth anything either, outside of John Mateer. Their tailbacks against Power 4 competition under 3 yards per carry. That isn't even to mention whether Mattier is going to play. And if he plays, is he 100%? If he's not 100%, Hawkins has to go. He was not good against Kent. I know they blew. Kent stayed out. He was not good. So they need to win by scoring 17 or something like that and just need to hold Texas to like single digits. If John Mateer does play, I still Wonder is he 100%? And if he is even, I wonder if they have a complimentary enough ground game that Texas has to respect the cat buster plays. In other words, I wonder if those are there because if they're not, and they may not be there for Texas either, you just get into a slugfest in those type of games. I just love the more desperate team and I do think there are some plays there to be made for Arch Manning. So I'm going to say the same thing this week that I said last week. I said I don't think there's a huge gap between Florida, Texas and everyone thought that was insane. And then Florida won. I know the records and the rankings say otherwise. In this one game setting Saturday in Dallas, I don't think there's that big a gap between Texas ou. I'm taking the more desperate team. I think Texas wins.

[A]

Brent Venables defense, respect versus struggling. You said the running back, buddy.

[C]

I feel great after that. You know how I'm obsessed with wounded animals to begin with? Like, I'm thinking, I think I'm going to.

[B]

What, an out of context clip to be taken later.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm obsessed with wounded animals. I'm obsessed with wounded animals.

[C]

Like Rob Zombie's Halloween. Oh, God. You guys remember that one?

[A]

No, we're talking about spooked over Rob Zombie's Halloween. I know he's got three movies.

[C]

The, the. Yeah, the Halloween where he kind of. It was Michael Myers and he was. Oh, yeah, I do remember it kind of. Yeah, it was. You know, that one got your spooky season. You know, I was like.

[A]

You like Texas?

[C]

Yeah. I was so up in the air about this game. So up in the air, like, I, I honestly, I just didn't know which way I wanted to go. It's like you got. I love, by the way, the Chipotle King. You know, you get on the Reddit, the channels that are promoting that, they, they talk to John Matier, he said, hell yeah, I'm going to play in this game. Anybody close to John Mater, if it's up to him, he's going to play in this game. I hope he gets to play in this game because I want to see, I want to see your Oklahoma team that you've been talking about all year long. Yes, you have called. That was beautiful, by the way. What you just did was beautiful. And I think too, it's like, I'm so pissed off about the way Texas performed last week because I truly believed in that defense, that veteran defense that I was talking about that was not. That's not only been top five this year, but top five last year. And I think it is. I think it's one of those gut check situations defensively. Like when you're watching that film and then talking about a game like Oklahoma, about how badly you need it. I think they bounced back in a big way of John Mateer or not. So I was wanting to go Texas again and you just absolutely sold me.

[A]

So.

[B]

Which just leaves one.

[A]

Give me Oklahoma. Oh, Especially if I'm at your place. I love the Reddit. I love the Chipotle. I love Venable's defense. I think if.

[C]

Love Dobson.

[A]

I love Dobson. If Texas hasn't been able to Operate against these other teams. How are they supposed to operate against Brent Venable's defense?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I mean, Arch Manning, he's had a tough one. I don't want to throw salt in the wound when it comes to the Manning family.

[C]

Friends of the show, friends of the show.

[A]

Friends of the show. But when I look at Oklahoma and I have to relive in my head how they kind of dominated Michigan in the way Michigan likes to play, they took their identity. They said, don't worry about that. We're going to put you in a blender for four quarters. I look at Oklahoma and I'm like, If Mattier plays 100%, 80%, 75%, I like them pushing the ball down the field enough to win this game.

[C]

It's a hand.

[A]

It's a hand. But everything you also heard, because you bring up a couple of people that are related to the program right now.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

Mattir is not only a handsome boy who can throw the ball over the yard, who's got enough shake to be like a. Considered a dual threat quarterback, but he's a guy's guy.

[C]

Guys, guy, guys, guy, Tough guy. Don't treat me like a quarterback.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not stacked on the ball.

[A]

Yeah, let me put that. I'm gonna put that on my back. I'm gonna squat that. We're gonna get after it.

[C]

Power clean. He's a dude.

[A]

He's got that, like, creatine vibe about him where he's all about the sups. He's all about a fat arm Friday.

[C]

All about a good laugh.

[A]

All about a good laugh. He's like one of those dudes that's like, as much as I hated him a few weeks ago, kind of falling in love with him right now. So give me Oklahoma.

[C]

And I also think too, like, you.

[A]

Know, not a stat, but give me a.

[C]

You know, Sark is just. There's a little bit of talk right now.

[B]

Boy. There's a lot of talk right now.

[C]

Sark's name getting tied a little bit. The James Franklin stats, like, you know, they gotta. They in Texas. You talk about desperation, too. Like, Texas has to have this game.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Oklahoma. It's a record five.

[B]

And, oh, they're undefeated.

[C]

They're undefeated.

[A]

So you guys love the wounded animal. And we talked. You did the Florida thing last week, but a couple weeks ago you guys did Florida versus Buddy.

[C]

I've done. I remember we were talking about last week. I said, the reason I'm scared to not pick Florida, because eventually you're going to be right. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

This is going to be the week where they turn it around. But I was on them. Yeah. For a couple of weeks in a row, and I kind of. I think they're a live dog. A live gator. This week against A and M. My.

[B]

Personal opinion, by the way, Just before we move out of this game, big transitive property game about middle of the season, you start talking about transitive properties. So let's just say, for example, let's say Texas does go and win this game Saturday. Well, in terms of the transitive property later down the road, that means the team that Ohio State handled in week one just beat the team that handled Michigan. What does it mean for rivalry week?

[A]

That's a rock, paper, scissors situation.

[C]

Timeout. Just because one beats one doesn't mean.

[A]

It beats the other.

[C]

Go to that scenario again.

[B]

All right. Transitive property.

[C]

You said transitive, and I was trying to, like, weirdly Google in my head.

[A]

I was doing the same thing. Like, I got to figure out what transitive means by the time.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And then when he brought up three games, I was like, okay, Ohio State beat Texas. Michigan.

[B]

There's a corner of the area.

[A]

Texas beats Oklahoma.

[C]

Texas.

[A]

I'm more saying this so I know that I'm right. And you can say, okay, that's correct. If Texas beats Oklahoma and Ohio State beat Texas and Oklahoma beat Michigan, what does that mean for Ohio State? Michigan.

[B]

And what it means is Buckeyes by 90. That's what it means. There is no other way.

[A]

Here's the. Here's your problem.

[B]

Oh, there's a.

[A]

There's a lot of therapy you went to about having a Michigan problem. I got a Michigan problem.

[B]

We need to move on.

[A]

That has nothing to do with that. You're still picking against Michigan. I feel more confident about Michigan now than ever being usc. Because you really don't believe. You're just saying it because you said in the past.

[B]

Look, back in the early days of the Internet, one of the first things that happened is porn. But another thing that happened was, hell, yeah. People figured out how to talk about the transitive property on message boards, and this took off. There were people who knew ball. There were people who didn't know ball. The didn't know ball crowd just started talking about the transitive property. They thought they had football licked. Well, if A beat B and B beat C, how could C possibly beat A? And then C would beat A and there would be like, this makes no sense. How could this have happened? What happens? Because the ball is shaped weird and you Score in threes and sevens. And last week doesn't matter this week. So I always love to have fun and just throw the transitive property in people's faces. And then when it pans out, you just talk about it like it's science.

[A]

That's a beautiful. That's a beautiful way to backtrack on everything you just said.

[B]

That's correct.

[C]

A transitive property states that if a first item relates to a second item and the second item relates to the third item in the same way, then the first item also relates to the third item in that same way.

[B]

That's what I said.

[C]

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

[A]

The definition is more confusing the way.

[C]

You framed it, but there's. There's nothing too. Like when somebody throws a definition and then you check it, and that definition is the exact same as the Internet. To me, it's like, oh, buddy, you operate at a different level.

[A]

Yeah, it's Francis Ellis on the podcast.

[C]

Like, I could put definitions together just with a. You know, I can try to throw words at something and be, oh, that kind of makes sense. But when it's spot on. A lot of respect for you.

[B]

I'm Texan. Sark.

[A]

So what you're saying. Sark knows now if Texas beats Oklahoma?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Ohio State by 90 in November, minimum.

[C]

Speaking of Ohio State. Speaking of Ohio State. Ohio State goes to Illinois this week. Number one team in the country against the 17 team.

[A]

Number one team in the country.

[C]

Ohio State is favored by 14 and a half. The over under on this game is 49 and a half. Fellas, how we feeling? Because I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be honest.

[A]

I like Ohio State, three scores. You like Ohio State three scores against.

[C]

Illinois, two scores and a point.

[A]

Okay, which one? Make.

[C]

Go for two. Go for two on one of those.

[A]

I like. I hope and pray Ohio State wins this game. I need them to be undefeated for that. Lost by 90 that you were referring to. But Illinois, 14 and a half. For me, it's just too many points. It's a lot of points at Illinois. Luke Altenheimer. Altenheimer, he is one of the more underrated quarterbacks in college football.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

They have a great opportunity to do. They do a great job of sustaining drives. Their defense is good, not great. You look at Ohio State, if Texas is who we think Texas is, then they don't really have a. Ohio State doesn't have a huge win or a big, like, hey, we beat those guys this year. They're in a bit of a dog fight. In the first half of their game against Ohio, where they end up covering in that game? Well, actually, they tied that spread, 28 points, but it was like nine to nine or nine to whatever. I just think Illinois, Brett Bielema, they get embarrassed by Indiana. Just because they came and have righted the ship a little bit doesn't mean that taste isn't out of their mouth. Ohio State wins this game, but Illinois covers.

[C]

Yeah, I don't mind that thought. To me, it's like I'm kind of. I got hit in the mouth last week with a. With a pick like this, and it was Mississippi State, A and M. I feel like they're kind of begging you.

[A]

Yeah, you moved the line and still lost.

[C]

Yeah, they're kind of begging you to take this line. Exactly. I didn't move the line. The line moved.

[A]

Oh, you took them. Okay, so you saw the line.

[C]

It was 14 and a half, and then by Saturday it was 16 and a half.

[A]

So you jumped on.

[C]

I just jumped on because Pate's like, you know, they could be just begging you to take it.

[A]

That was Ken versus the Packers. Oh, you watch film? Watch this?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And they just took care of business.

[C]

And so I'm learning from that. And I just think, yeah, that's the sole reason why I'm taking this game. I do think Illinois is underrated. I think they're a good football team. I think Ohio State's a different beast defensively. They are a different beast. You can talk. People can have conversations about the offense all they want. They do what they have to do to win games. Matt Patricia is incredible out there. That defense flies around. I like Ohio State here because again, when I was watching the USC Illinois game, Illinois is going to need turnovers to go their way. They're going to need a couple trick plays in there. I just think Ohio State's going to be ready to go. They're going to go into Illinois, and I think they cover this.

[A]

I think Illinois plays very similarly to Washington in a lot of ways. They're not as mobile at quarterback, but they still utilize that rpo. He's reading that linebacker while they're running a quick slant. And a lot of those plays that Washington had where they pushed the ball down the field on that Ohio State defense, they were successful between the 25 and the 25. Very successful about getting the ball down the field. And when they got in the red zone, you know, they. They're in the red zone three separate times, only come away with six different points. I like the Culture of Brett Bielemont a little bit more than I do in Washington. They play a similar game on offense that seemed to be relatively successful in the chunk middle of the field versus Ohio State. And that's why I think, I mean you look at Ohio State's run game, they're like a three back system. They got a running back, his name's Bo Jackson, he's got half as many yards as Justin Hayes if you, Justin Hayes, if you're wondering. But they just don't, they're not like a, they don't have a dynamic pass game and run game. They have one or the other based on the game that they're playing. And I like, I like Illinois, they seem a little more of a complete team. They're not as good, but they're good at both as opposed to being a good one or the other.

[B]

There was a random score in my head that kept floating around because the numbers 14 and a half right, the score 20 to 6 kept floating around. It would be so brutal because again Ohio State will have gone in there and do what they do. They will have done a version of what they did to Washington where Illinois has no shot offensively. Day struggling to cross the 50, whatever. But Ohio State has so few possessions right now offensively they just grind the game to a halt, which is beautiful. It's not a knock on them, it's a knock on laying the points with them because you're worried, can they pull away. The one thing I do think is I think they know and I think they have structured the entire first half of their season to bring Julian Saen along at a proper pace because they know they're not going to get challenged after Texas. So they can kind of treat this as fall camp. Although don't let Ryan Day hear that. I think they'll add layer and layer and layer week by week and I think they, they realize we're going to have to throw the ball to win a national title. We're going to have to utilize this wide receiver core more than we have if we're going to actually win the Big Ten, if we're going to beat Oregon one day, if we're going to go into Michigan to beat Michigan, if we're going to win in the playoffs. So one of these games, and maybe it's this one, I think just you mentioned that hasn't been there, the run game and pass game at the same time. One of these games, I think that's going to kind of click and I'm going to semi bank that it's going to be this week. So I'll actually take Ohio State and lay the points. But There's a solid 20 to 6 game in there somewhere where I'm just. You can't be serious. You held them to six and we still didn't cover. I'm going to roll the dice. I don't feel confident on it, so I won't be betting anything on this game. But I'll take Ohio State to win and cover.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right. Responsible.

[B]

Yep, responsible.

[A]

That'd be nuts.

[B]

Do I get some credit if I say 20 to 6? I mean, it is on the record.

[A]

Hey, we'll put a star next to your name in the lost category.

[B]

Yeah. Called the game. Exactly. And lost. Congrats.

[A]

Right. You have three and two again. We'll put a star next to the two.

[B]

Yeah, that'll work.

[C]

Give it an extra.

[A]

Give him an extra. What?

[C]

Just an extra. W. 3, 2 and 1.

[A]

Well, hey, what's that one? I called the exact score that.

[B]

No, he didn't follow it. He bet against himself. But he did call the score.

[A]

He did call the score. It's going to be an interesting game. And also they hate the pass game. I mean, they got two nasty wide receivers. Two first round pick wide receivers. They didn't really do a whole. They don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh my God. They're blowing the doors off these guys.

[C]

And I kind of like too Washington moving the ball because they weren't that successful. Clearly in the red zone. But you have some tape to learn from.

[A]

Got some.

[C]

You know what I mean? Patricia can get a little. And get a little salty in the defensive end.

[A]

It was either a punt return or a kick return that Ohio State fumbled the ball.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Put them in a short field. Washington shortfield still came with only three in that situation.

[C]

Right. Treating the boys like they lost going out there to Washington.

[A]

Yeah. The things we're saying together are making you feel good about the pick that I'm going against, but it also makes me feel good about my pick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what makes them feel good at Ohio State?

[A]

What?

[B]

Is knowing they hired Matt patricia cause their DC left them to go get 40 + hung on him at UCLA. I think that's what makes them feel good. Can you imagine how high those feet are kicked up in that building watching Penn State, ucla knowing Jim Knowles jetted on them and they're like, we'll be fine.

[A]

Talk about, talk about a butterfly effect. Ohio State loses their D.C. to Penn State and because of that transition getting hung 40 on them now there's fear in Lincoln, Nebraska, about their head coach going to Penn State. Butterfly Effect.

[C]

Look at that.

[A]

Butterfly effect. I'm just saying. Isn't that crazy? Ashton Kutcher. It's a great movie. You should watch Butterfly Effect.

[B]

It is.

[A]

It's a phenomenal movie.

[C]

Well, you got to bring the journal.

[A]

He reads it, he goes. And then he's in a different time period.

[B]

Believe Amy Smorth is in that movie. Preston from Remember the Titans is in that movie.

[A]

Football movie. You love football movies.

[C]

Coach Rule ain't going anywhere.

[B]

Speak. Speaking of, ain't he smart?

[C]

Coach Rule ain't going anywhere.

[A]

I hope he doesn't. I love. I love Coach Rule. I've been on House Rules briefly.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's my.

[A]

I mean, I've been on it.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I'm a technical.

[B]

You were in the credits. You were in the credits.

[A]

Just like Ryan Day is technically a friend of the show for busting with the boys he's been on.

[B]

Yeah, you're.

[A]

I'm just. This is a college football show. We talk about things going on in college football.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not saying Coach Rules went to Nebraska anywhere.

[A]

And I'm saying there's rumors.

[C]

I know there's rumors, but this is like a father figure to me. He ain't going.

[A]

He wouldn't do it.

[C]

No, he wouldn't do it. Loves it in Lincoln.

[B]

You're just saying that. It is your job as a big J journalist to just pretend. You got to present the scenario. You got to put it out there.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

You're saying.

[A]

Let's just say.

[B]

You say it's not personal.

[C]

Yeah, I'm saying no way. It happens.

[B]

And I'm saying it would be bad for college football if it happened. I can't have Matt Rule leave Nebraska. That would be bad for college football. He's not a bad for college football guy. He's a good for college football guy. Yeah. Lest we forget, the job's not open at Penn State right now.

[A]

Allegedly. Two weeks ago, you were framing a couple questions to me. If they lose to Oregon, do you think about getting James Franklin out of there? And my thought was like, hey, if you're happy with your ceiling being 10 and 2, well, now the ceiling's no longer looking like 10 and 2.

[C]

That 10 and 2 looked more like a loss to Ohio State, not UCLA. Now that it's UCLA, now you got.

[A]

You gotta play Ohio State. They play Indiana as well. Right.

[B]

And Michigan State. Nebraska. Ohio State at Iowa at night is all of a sudden Just a game that no one can look over. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Aller getting pissed off. You guys still on the hunt for the playoffs? What do you think? Anytime you have a response like that as quarterback, it's like, oh, you guys are not happy.

[B]

I actually didn't even hear that sound bite. Did he really say that?

[A]

Yeah. He's sitting there and they're like, are you guys still on the hunt for the playoff? He's like, what do you think Looks right at him. I'm asking you the question. I'm asking you the question. Wow.

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[A]

Yeah, number eight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Alabama might be going to Penn state. Alabama at 14, Missouri. Alabama's favored three and a half points. Total points. That game is 52 and a half. I was one of the first people to sit there after week one and be like, alabama's dead. Yep, we hear. You hear the rumor, the Reddit rumors about 2am Guys are getting their Uber eats along with a side of ass and they're going up to their hotel room and doing whatever. They're being very loose about everything. Sat on that bus, looked at G in the eyes. You guys might be done. And a lot of people in college football not only thought the same thing, but also were kind of happy about it.

[C]

Like the college football world celebrated.

[A]

Yeah, Saying it is Alabama being dead.

[B]

They danced on the grave even though there wasn't a body in there.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Just a dug hole. Unfortunate thing for them is no one's in it. And I think Alabama, this is my favorite pick of the. Of the entire week. I think Missouri, they obviously have a great run game. The running backs leading the league, leading all of college football and rushing. It's like 736 yards. Some of the only 100 or something more than Justice Hayes. But you look at who they've played, they haven't really played anybody. No disrespect to JP they played South Carolina was ranked. They beat him 29 to 20. Alabama goes and they beat Georgia like they always do. But they stop. They break Georgia's home game winning streak of like what, 23 games. Pre Covid.

[B]

Pre Covid.

[A]

Pre Covid. Pre boosters.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

The last time they.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So then they had. Then they have Diego Pavia. They were 1 and O against quarterbacks to talk trash again about that.

[B]

He's a kid, man.

[A]

He's just a kid.

[C]

Yeah, he's just a young kid.

[A]

He's just a kid, but they made him look like a kid during that game a little bit. Had a bunch of turnovers. I like the way Alabama's trending. Calen DeBoer comes on the show this week.

[C]

Friend of the show.

[A]

Friend of the show. Two time friend of the show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Two time friend of the show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel great about Alabama. The thing that does make me nervous, we were talking about before the show, Missouri under construction. I was like, they don't care about it. And I was like, Gary goes. I walked into Vanderbilt last year and they were under construction. Look what happened there. So that does make me a little bit nervous. But I'm taking. I'm taking Alabama to cover. I got Alabama covering.

[B]

DeBoer is not a good construction coach.

[A]

Not a good. But he also wasn't a good coach against quarterbacks. Talk trash.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so he's wrote that shit.

[B]

You gotta. He's gotta fix a lot of his trends. He fixed the penalized trend. They don't get penalized anymore. You're fixing now. You've got to fix road games. You got to fix the road game because is the Georgia game a fix? That's one game.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. They're one in five going into that game.

[B]

It takes two or three. Does it take three? Does it take three?

[A]

Two. Two's a streak.

[B]

Is three a trend? And two is a streak.

[A]

I think it might be flipped. It's a wave and trend. Right.

[B]

Either way, they're not there yet. I want whatever three is.

[A]

Oh, so you're with me?

[B]

I think possibly.

[A]

I don't know, maybe. Where was the.

[C]

He's saying. He might be saying bucks by 90.

[B]

Yeah, bucks by 90.

[C]

He might be saying until they get on that three game, whatever it is, streak trend, he's gonna make Bama. Prove it to him.

[A]

The only way to get three is to get three. You've gotten two. This is the next one on the list.

[C]

No, they've gotten one since that. Riding that ship.

[B]

Can I just say this though?

[A]

Georgia. Vanderbilt.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Vandy was at home.

[A]

They beat Vandy. They lost to Vandy last year.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Multiple quarterbacks have been the.

[C]

Continue. Continue.

[A]

All right, so the third one would be the game we're talking about right now. Missouri. Yeah, I. I think they're going to get the third.

[B]

Matt Rule's not leaving Nebraska. That's not happening.

[A]

You don't think so? No, I don't think so. Alma mater or will complex put Alma mater.

[C]

Alma mater.

[A]

Mater. Bad boys been watching too much cars. But he's been watching.

[B]

There's no way Altenheimer moves the ball on Ohio State. There's no way. There's no way. It happens.

[A]

You don't think Altenheimer's gonna get it done? I think Alheimer presses the red button, lays a couple nukes on him.

[C]

Give me Mizzou here.

[A]

Close.

[B]

I'm just waiting for a total. I was just waiting for a total.

[C]

Out of the Raptors.

[A]

Do what do you have a score in that game?

[C]

No, no. No score in that game. I think Alabama escapes a close one against Mizzou. I personally don't like this spot for Alabama. You have two very emotional wins, night games, Georgia, Vandy, now you're going in. You gotta be ready to go. At 11am in Columbia, Missouri, Willys and Harpos will be rocking two great college bars.

[B]

Fall don't lie tour.

[C]

Fall don't lie tour is gonna be there. Place is gonna be rocking in Missouri, I can promise you.

[A]

I need a viral Josh Payton mouth open video too. On just a bomb touchdown.

[C]

Yeah. And again, Mizzou you can argue about if they played a team or not. They are number one in the country in rush yards per game. Number one rush defense. Number one in third down conversions as an offense converting on 62%. Ahmad Hardy. Like you want to talk about a running back.

[A]

Takes more than just one to take him down, bro.

[B]

I got Jamal Roberts too. He's pretty good.

[C]

Yeah, he's averaging over 7 as well. Both their running backs very good. But this Ahmad Hardy, let me tell you about Ahmaud Hardy. 5 10, 210 pounds and he's all 210. I bet he's 215 weighing in on Monday mornings when they're checking weight there. Like the dude is sturdy when he's coming through the hole. Like guys are not only guys will have thick form tackles on this young man. And his body like doesn't move. He just keeps going like tackle after tackle. He is hard to bring down. And Mizzou like the way that they operate schematically on offense. They live in 12 personnel. They'll change the gaps on you whether it's with one tight end, whether it's with both tight ends. I think you'll get a lot of one on one opportunities for Hardy in the hole. And I like my odds with Hardy. They move the ball very well. Pribula's a good quarterback. He can win with his legs. He's got a pretty ball downfield. He operates very well and confidently. Defense, they can get after the passer a little bit. They are number 10 in the country on pass defense. I like Mizzou here. I like Mizzou. I think it takes a moment for Alabama to kind of like wake the fuck up because it's 11am and it's been. They've had a couple emotional wins. So that's why I like Bama here with or that's why I like Mizzou here with the points.

[B]

So the first thing we have to answer is, is all of Missouri's stat profile legit, which is what you have to ask about any team that really hasn't faced high level competition because they could be great or they could be a total, you know, paper tiger, pun intended, whatever. So that's the first thing we have to answer because you're right, like all of the. Their number two total, their number one run, their number ten pass, that's defensively for Missouri. So what is Bama getting defensively? Like, what are they facing defensively? Is Missouri really the number two total defense in the country?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Are they really the number one? Number one run defense? Are they even a fraction of that? So that the scaling issue against a quality team, you can't know until you know. But the thing that I think about and what gives me the most concern for Alabama is for all the fear that people had about Bama being able to face Georgia. They actually should have about Missouri because this is a bigger challenge for Bama's offensive line than Georgia was. Georgia can't pressure the quarterback. Missouri can. Missouri's got players like Damon Wilson should be playing for Georgia, but he transferred to Missouri. Zion Young is a is a much better guy than what they faced against Georgia. It's just weird to say that because one's Missouri and the other's Georgia. So I see a similar edge here that Bama had against Georgia. Because Alabama could have and did at times victimize Georgia's DBs, they should be able to do that against Missouri. The difference is Tai had time against.

[A]

Georgia, kept it high too. I don't know, keeps it high.

[B]

Maybe he has time against Missouri, but that's the great unknowable until we watch the game start to unfold the game script, I think itself is very important because you mentioned Ahmaud Hardy, Jamal Roberts, Bo Prabula, all of those guys can run the ball. If you get up kind of like FSU got up on you in week one and force Bama into obvious passing come from behind type mode, I really worry about the pressure they can get on Ty Simpson. If you flip it though, and you've got a situation where Bama's controlling and you can't use that ground game. As much as you want to love Bama, I am going to by the slightest of margins, bank on Missouri having a little bit of a scaling issue here against a much better team. But I'm terrified of the spot. That's why we're going up there because you said you're ultra confident in it. I got no confidence at all on either side of this game. I'm very slight lean Alabama minus the points, nothing would surprise me. Last time I went to Missouri there was a walk off field goal and they stormed it against Kansas State. So that's two times for a field storming. Would be either a streak or a trend for me at Missouri. I'll tell you what aggravates me though is they're shutting down the weight room Friday for Tebow to work out.

[A]

Tebow needs the whole thing.

[C]

They're shutting it down. Like you're saying Josh Pate, future commissioner, college football, can't share the same weight.

[B]

Room as Tim Tebow as we're recording. I mean, Eli Drinkwood's made it official.

[A]

Just him and Jesus. Nobody else is a lie in there, including me. That's got to be a little bit ridiculous, right?

[B]

It just. I'm not going to say I'm angry about it. I'll say I'm a little hurt by it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, sorry for caring about my fitness, too. Hey, Tim's not the only guy who wants to look out for himself.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So because of that, I think Alabama probably deals an L this weekend in Columbia. And afterwards, Eli Drinkwitz has to think, would it have been different had I been more hospitable with my weight room? It's just sad.

[A]

It is sad.

[B]

It's sad.

[A]

I see.

[C]

We'll get this clip. We'll see what we can do with it.

[A]

Yeah. Stats you guys going with? I was at a game earlier this year when the defense had a bunch of those similar stats, and the team they were playing against rush for 286 yards. So until you've, like, played somebody, it's like the. All these numbers are going to be skewed.

[B]

What game was that?

[A]

I don't want to say. It's not personal.

[B]

Oh. Oh.

[A]

But I'll give you. I'll give you a hand. Head coach might go to Penn State. There's the head.

[C]

Just nasty. Nasty shirt.

[A]

Not nasty. I'm not being nasty. What do you mean, nasty?

[C]

Just keep patting me on the head.

[A]

This can't have a pat on the head, Doc.

[C]

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[C]

What's the next game we got? True Classic game of the week.

[A]

True Classic game of the week. Every Saturday's got games, but only one fits just right. This is the True Classic game of the week. We got Indiana number seven at number three, Oregon. Kurt Signetti versus Dan Lanning, Oregon, favored minus seven and a half. Total points in the game is 55 and a half.

[C]

Week seven.

[B]

Yeah. We're halfway through the season.

[A]

Week seven.

[B]

And yet again we're asking about Indiana, facing quality competition, first elite team they've played all year. No disrespect to Illinois. The last memory I have really, of Indiana is probably the same one that both of you think of. And that is we take off in Lincoln, nice competitive game going on. Illinois, Indiana, we land body bagging.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Splattering. Whatever adjective you want to use. They're zipping that thing up over Illinois.

[C]

And Signetti, by the way, talked shit before that game.

[B]

Sure did. And now. What did he call? He called Lanning. He gave him some kind of accurate.

[C]

He's like a young phenom, really respects him.

[B]

And he deadpanned it.

[A]

He didn't laugh.

[B]

So, you know, it's a setup. He's basically. He's narrating their hype video in press conferences. Yeah, but Indiana's hype videos never really circulate, so they just watch it internally. I've never seen an Indiana hype video.

[C]

Me either.

[B]

This will be in the Indiana hype video this week, but I've never seen one. So they went to Iowa. My point with the Illinois game is that's not the one to think about. That was at home. They have gone on the road. They went to Iowa. It was a 20 to 15 game. It was a really close game.

[A]

Didn't cover.

[B]

And now. That was one of the six and a halfs. Yeah, it was one of you.

[A]

One of your boys there, Mr. Six and a half.

[B]

This one is not six and a half. This one is seven and a half.

[C]

Yeah, down.

[A]

It's right here.

[B]

Down from nine and a half at the beginning of the week. So a lot of money, a lot of people really love in Indiana here. I think I may be one of them. I think Indiana's going to really go up there and challenge them.

[A]

You know, Dan Lanning watches the show.

[B]

I think, in a way.

[C]

Dan. Go ahead, say something about Dan Lanning.

[B]

Well, this is a young phenom coach, you know.

[C]

Yeah, this is.

[B]

This is a young man.

[C]

Go ahead and say why you're doubting him.

[B]

I can't confirm it. I'm saying I've heard some stuff about Dan.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

What I'm saying is, do you think Kurt Signetti closes fridges with his hip?

[A]

I've heard Dan Lanning does, unfortunately.

[B]

Like. I don't. Isn't it low key? The biggest Test of Dan Lanning's career here. Isn't this when we find out about Dan Lanning. Isn't this when we find out about that entire organization up there? Because people are talking. People are talking about how fraudulent the Penn State win is. People are saying, hey, big deal, the team that UCLA handled took you to overtime. Why couldn't Indiana handle you? Why couldn't Indiana do some business in your backyard? Yeah, I am not those people. I'm listening to those people like I'm the messenger.

[C]

You're kind of buying what those people are saying. I'm saying, because you're taking Indiana, the.

[B]

People are influencing me. And we're picking games against the spread. We're not picking straight up here. So you can go win by field goal. You can go win by a touchdown. I just don't know if you're going to win by seven and a half or more.

[A]

If Oregon only wins this game by a field goal, is it really a win?

[B]

That's a great question for the playoff committee.

[A]

Yeah. Because it's like all these rumors swirling around Dan and his hips and how he opens Gatorade bottles and Kurt Signetti using a Will Compton phrase, patting him on the head a little bit in a press conference. You only win that game by three. God forbid, go to overtime.

[C]

Yeah, I got. So. I don't know again. So I got text right after. So I had a tweet. I saw Signetti's press conference. I saw him talking about Lanning. Young phenob. Phenom in the. In the college world. Love him, high respect for him. And I tweet, Signetti's lost his fastball. Like, this isn't what has made Signetti great since his time showing up in Indiana. This is a guy that talks shit. And not only talks shit, he backs it up outside of the Notre Dame game. Got the whole, go this stuff out there. But he kind of. I felt like he's lost a massive step. So I get a random text from an Indiana area code, and all it says is, his wife calls me Big Nettie.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

And I said. I said, excuse me, who is this? And then another one rattles off. Dude's got a PhD in hype and an elementary understanding. In the second half, I said, is this Coach Signetti? And he said, a lot of respect for Dan Landon, young phenom in this game. I love his highlights. You know who else loves his highlights? Incoming Ohio State recruits. I said, buddy, you got to stop talking about my boy like this. And then another one comes through he recruits players like he's collecting rare sneakers. All flash. I said, what does that even mean? And then he goes, all he does is recruit five stars. And I said, is there a punchline to this? He said, fuck Dan Lanning. And then three cigarette emojis came after that. And I never heard from it again. I don't know if that's ignetti Indiana area code. I'll be able to post a screenshot for everybody.

[A]

Are the Ducks dead?

[B]

That's not good for college football. But that's terrible for Oregon.

[C]

I think Oregon beats their ass again. This is another team traveling out to the West Coast. And I'm saying Oregon's gonna whoop this Indiana ass this weekend. Seven and a half. I love this pick.

[A]

I don't think I.

[C]

And that's what. You scare everybody. That I love this pick. But it's an ass whooping right here.

[E]

This is SCO Ducks.

[C]

This is a SCO Ducks game if.

[A]

You'Ve ever seen one.

[C]

We can't have the number one. What we can't do on this show, we can't let the fan base. We can't let Dan Lanning see anything that we just talked about. But I love the Oregon deaths.

[A]

If you're the Oregon Death PR team, you're watching every one of our shows and making sure Dan Lanning cannot see what will conkle. Just read to the world.

[B]

Dan Lanning does not hear outside of the noise. No, that's confirmed. I don't even know that he has Internet. His Gmail account.

[A]

I don't think the whole state of Oregon has Internet. I don't think they have it up there.

[B]

It seems like a little bit of a shot. Okay.

[A]

I like Oregon.

[B]

The grass is green in Eugene.

[A]

Very green.

[B]

Very green.

[A]

The amount of different kinds of trees they have up there.

[C]

Great trees.

[A]

Gene knows what I'm talking about. We sat there and basically hallucinated under a tree for three hours. And we didn't take anything.

[C]

A lot of good trees just in the air.

[A]

Animal House was filmed there.

[B]

Sure was.

[A]

One of the best movies of all time. You've seen it. Tell me about it.

[C]

Great movie.

[A]

Yeah. Talk me through the plot.

[C]

A lot of great trees in the movie.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Oregon.

[A]

Tell me about Bluto.

[C]

Dude.

[A]

Love. Yeah. Hey. The man.

[B]

I wasn't looking. I wasn't even looking.

[A]

Hey. So you get it, man?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You get it. 100.

[A]

As much as things change, they also stay the same. Week 7. Last year, Indiana was undefeated. They went and played Ohio State. They lost that game by 15. I don't see it changed anything here. Oregon's gonna mop the floor with Indiana. No disrespect, great program. Kurt Signetti, awesome guy. I'm assuming future friend of the show would love to go check out Indiana sometime.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Am I right?

[C]

Yeah. They pushed it down our throat. So I have nothing. I gotta have nothing but respect. I'm just. When I'm looking at this game, I just see an ass beating. But a lot of respect for Signetti and the Indiana Hoosiers.

[A]

Yeah. Give me the points in that game.

[C]

Oregon. Great.

[B]

I'm taking them. I'm actually taking the points.

[A]

Can you display us at all? Can you hit me with one of these at all?

[C]

Do you have a paper popper here for Indiana?

[B]

Like, I really don't. All I'm saying is I think Indiana has the QB to keep them in the game to trade points. Like when we were talking about Ohio State and Illinois. That's one where if Ohio State's got three tuddies on the board, I don't really trust Illinois to be able to trade with them. All due respect to Alenheimer. All due respect to him.

[A]

Underrated dog.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's going to be a guy.

[C]

Sling it. Like again, usc, you're probably not putting them in the powerhouse tier of college football. But he was trading with USC.

[B]

That's wonderful. How did you against Ohio State?

[C]

20 for 26, 325.

[B]

You just have that stat line memorized.

[C]

Because I thought it was. I thought it was.

[B]

It was great.

[A]

It was great.

[C]

Great display of quarterbacking out there on the football field in Illinois.

[B]

What would be great is if I went and looked at a stat line and that's not even close. And you rattled it off.

[E]

Boom.

[B]

On the hymer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just think they can trade points. So I think it's going to be a one possession type game. That's it. I think I got Oregon winning in their stadium.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In their stadium.

[A]

55,000.

[C]

That's what I think. Like I feel we talk about a lot of these games and we talk like it's being played on a neutral site and it's not. It's like, dude, traveling out there.

[B]

Well.

[C]

Yeah, college game day is going to be out there.

[B]

Yeah, sure is. Sure is.

[C]

Ready to go, man.

[B]

Just like it was the last time that we were out there at a game.

[C]

But that was.

[B]

Which was a one possession game.

[C]

Yeah. But that was Ohio State.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, this is just Indiana. This is just.

[C]

Yeah, this is just. Did you.

[B]

Did you text that back to the Unknown number there.

[C]

I need to. Yeah, you say, buddy, you're just Indiana.

[B]

You're just Indiana.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Lose my number.

[B]

Three cigarette emojis.

[C]

Three cigarette emojis.

[B]

Oh. Oh, my goodness.

[C]

I was like, I got to delete this asap.

[B]

It's too much free time.

[C]

We can't have Oregon fans, you know.

[A]

You know, Dan Lanning, he might not have Internet, but he has a way to hack your phone. He'll see it if you don't delete it.

[C]

No, he knows. I tell him all the time, brother, do not look at what's going on on the Internet.

[A]

Good.

[C]

He's like, gotcha.

[B]

Is there a world.

[A]

I gotcha.

[B]

Is there a world where Lanning goes to states in the Big Ten, goes to a Verizon store, purchases a phone, activates it in the respective area codes of the other Big Ten teams, and on that burner, trashes himself to you before Oregon games and is such a psychopath that he still feeds off of you reading that on air. Because the answer is yes.

[C]

And that's what makes me love the Oregon Ducks even more.

[B]

That's. That's the best I could come to switching my pick. That's the closest I came to switching my pick.

[C]

All right, let's get into the dogs of the week. Dogs of the week. Some underdogs this week that we're liking, that we feel like are live dogs. I alluded to mine earlier. It's Florida.

[A]

And that's why the dog. Dude, you missed them by a week.

[C]

Will's against the spread trends with Florida.

[B]

I'm over.

[C]

I took them, what, two, three weeks in a row. They're thinking like, this wounded animal. I'm telling you, this is a good football team. And then it's like, all right, I think they're actually dead. Poked him with the stick. They waited, they deadpooled me, and they popped up out of nowhere. They possumed me. They handled Texas after that bye week. I think they have some new life. I think A and M could be getting a little too big for their britches. I like this spot from Florida. Like, let's just see some more Florida Magic running the football lagway, dicing them up the defense, being alive. Like, I like Florida. Plus seven and a half this week at Texas A and M. Why not?

[A]

Billy Napier gonna be the floor head coach next year.

[B]

Well, I keep telling. I keep being told it's inevitable he gets fired, except that he's not fired, which allows him to win a game every week. So he won last week. I Think I agree with you. They're gonna keep it close this week. We'll see. Coin flip game. But gator magic is real for all of what should be cocktober for South Carolina. Feels like I got to create a term for Billy Napier in October because maybe he's en route to saving his job twice in consecutive October. That's a streak.

[A]

That's. Yep. That.

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That trends are.

[A]

Streak or a trend.

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One of the two Billy Tober or whatever we're going to call it.

[A]

I got bad news, too. I heard that if Matt Rule doesn't go to Penn State, his second biggest pick is Florida. So Billy Napier needs to pick, but.

[B]

It'S got to be open.

[A]

He's got it. Yeah.

[B]

Just like Penn State. It's got to be open.

[A]

He's got to keep it.

[B]

And then it's irrelevant because Matt's not leaving Nebraska. Because that would be bad for college football.

[A]

That'd be bad for college football.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Imagine Matt Rule going heel on all of college football because if he leaves Nebraska, he's a bad guy.

[B]

Well, he's got his own show. Just go heal on your show.

[A]

He creates his own narrative. God, he really is sleeping, isn't he? Oh, my. I didn't even think about that. He's key. He's got his. That's what the whole podcast is about. House rules. I don't see an end in there.

[B]

Oh, what an. What an angle that is. What an angle that is.

[A]

You know, people make podcasts and they like. It's like, you know.

[B]

Yeah, it's team specific.

[A]

Yeah, team specific. I'm the head coach. I'm gonna put, like, a Nebraska N in there or some sort of corn.

[B]

So what you're saying is if he's wrong and A and M does win Saturday, the Florida job theoretically could come open.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At which point you think a discussion would start to happen about potentially maybe possibly some candidates that would make certain people sitting at the table, not to mention any names, uncomfortable.

[A]

I'm saying if they lose to A and M and Billion, Napier finally gets the ax and Nebraska does what people assume happens in year three under that head coach. It's a horrible. That's a horrible concoction for Nebraska. You almost want to lose if you're Nebraska, like, go 8 and 4, 7 and 5 and be like, oh, I guess. I guess it's a year four Matt Rule.

[B]

Well, they can't this weekend because the model loves Nebraska.

[A]

This weekend, model of love. Nebraska against Michigan. I got UCLA plus nine and a half against Michigan State. It's a little personal for me because I hate Michigan State. And dude, Nico, even Tennessee fans are kind of like, all right, good for him.

[C]

That's good.

[A]

That's awesome. Do they win this game? No. Do they cover? Probably not. They probably, you know, they probably drink their Kool Aid a little too much.

[B]

You understand There are like 60 college games on the board per week. You don't have to settle for one that you think probably won't hit.

[C]

I look at trying to turn this underdog recovery.

[A]

I look at every single game and I like do my own little narrative in my head of each game and I look at that and go, all right, that's what I'm gonna do. And I get to the show, I'm like, I took UCLA plus, not a.

[B]

Letdown spot at all.

[A]

24 hours ago, 24 hours ago I sat there, I was like, that's fucking genius. That's genius. So, yeah, man, let me get ucla. Generational talent. Nico, interim head coach. Beautiful. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Beautiful.

[C]

No chance. No chance. They're still celebrating that. Penn State. No chance.

[A]

No shot.

[B]

Well, this is a potato. That's a blue collar program.

[A]

Ucla.

[B]

Yeah, Notoriously. Roll up your sleeves, meat and potato onto the next week. Process oriented.

[A]

There's a reason why their stadium's an hour away from the campus.

[B]

Yeah. Distractions, distractions. Texas Techs looked really good this year, right? Yeah, they're undefeated so far. Clearly the best team in the Big 12. Got a showdown next week at Arizona State. But there is the small matter of them having a game this week against Kansas. Kansas under Lance Leipold kind of quietly did what Billy Napier did last year. Nose was diving and then they pulled it up around this time. I think they're doing it again. They're a 14 and a half point dog at Texas Tech. I think this is going to be a knife fight. And I'm taking Kansas plus 14 and a half to get the COVID to push Texas Tech for like the first time this year because they've won every game by 24 plus. And so I think this is going to be a good challenge for them. Then it's going to make some people doubt Texas Tech as they go to play Kenny in Tempe next week, which is low key. Exactly what Joey McGuire needs. They don't need to win every game by three touchdowns. So I'm doing him a favor by almost beating him, but not quite beating him this week. Kansas plus 14 and a half.

[A]

Texas Tech is also undefeated against the spread this year.

[B]

They sure are.

[A]

They've not only covered every single game, they've double covered every single game.

[B]

And FanDuel aware of that and even knowing that this is the number they put on this game, I trust them. I trust them to set a fair number for me. Now I'm going to take Kansas because I just think they're a little underrated.

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Trust our partners. Yes, we trust our partners.

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They've never let us wrong.

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[A]

Who is your dog of the week?

[C]

My dog of the week, Florida.

[A]

Oh, that's right. That's right.

[C]

We're back on the wounded animal. Back on the got the wrong time.

[A]

My weekly parlay. I also took the wounded animal. Iowa State. After what only the Nebraska Cornwall could do. They couldn't. They couldn't beat Cincinnati. I like Iowa State. You brought up that game how it wasn't this the box score didn't say.

[B]

What 31 to 7 at one point.

[A]

Dude, that. Who was it that Cincinnati running back put his face targeting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that safety's chest out once but twice.

[B]

I think the officials were so stunned.

[C]

Second one was more of a. It was a run over. But that first one was most guys.

[A]

Yeah, most guys bend at the waist. That guy bends at the chest now. But I like, I always stay getting back on track again. I against Colorado. Never been a fan.

[C]

I like that pick.

[A]

Never been a fan.

[C]

Colorado hater. Anti Colorado.

[A]

Anti Colorado. I'm just like I just when all the hype was happening and then they, you know, they retired the jersey of Shadur Sanders when it's one of the Colorado greats. Yeah. Moxie Alamo bowl like it's like what are we doing here? What are we doing? Let's retire David Bakhtiara's jersey.

[C]

Taylor's sitting in his recliner. Just hate watching everything. Colorado.

[A]

I was like iffy about them. I was iffy about them. And then I saw them in Lincoln, Nebraska and I thought this is the worst coached football team I've ever seen.

[B]

That was a bad time to see them. Yeah, that was a bad night to.

[A]

See Them with the ship a little bit. Obviously had themselves in a Big 12 championship conversation towards the end of the year. But Iowa State.

[B]

Okay. Rocco Becht, Matt Campbell, for reasons related to players that don't play at Colorado anymore, you are laying the points with Iowa State, which I hope you're right about. We need. We need a rebound.

[C]

We need them all together.

[B]

So I'm taking Arizona. Brigham Young's undefeated right now and they're going to Tucson. Tucson as it's spelled.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I am going to take Arizona. I think that they are going to win the game outright. So fanduel is very generous. Our partners often are. They're giving us one and a half points with Arizona. I will take them to win outright. Gladly. Take the point and a half. So maybe they lose by a point and we're still right. I think they're going to win outright. I don't love the spot for Brigham Young.

[C]

I don't know shit about byu.

[A]

Have you seen American Primeval? Netflix? Ever since that show, I've been out on byu.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They give. Give them a bad look.

[C]

Great breakdown. This is one of the breakdown.

[A]

Just to follow up. I also don't know shit, but I did watch that show and that is can't have it.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. This is where I. It's where I just trust your from the start too. Trust what you're saying about Arizona.

[A]

We covered Arizona when they went to Iowa State.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, I'll say, you know, some of them. Byu. I just don't follow a whole lot of BYU football. No shot at color.

[A]

Super soakers out there.

[C]

Yeah. I'm going Georgia - three and a half at Auburn. This is gonna. This is one where it's like wounded tiger. Yeah. Wounded tiger at home.

[B]

Off.

[C]

You're right.

[B]

Night game at Jordan Hare.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

But great receiving.

[C]

There's a. There's some stuff bubbling around. College football and I kind of just want to. I'm ready to just see some drama a little bit. I'm ready to see. I would love to see Georgia to whoop this team. Then you get some Hugh Freeze talk at Auburn.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[C]

So I think George is going to be ready to go.

[A]

Hugh Freeze. Like Hugh Freeze leaving. Getting fired.

[C]

Oh, people be talking.

[A]

I didn't want to bring this up, but if Matt Rule had a third choice, it was Auburn.

[B]

Auburn rules.

[A]

Oh, great. Podcast show title.

[B]

Tm. That's ours now.

[A]

Podcast show title. That breaks my heart.

[B]

It sounds like there could be a lot of dominoes about to fall it sounds like in college football right now we're the night before the 2008 crisis happened and all of America's laying their head down on their pillow, completely oblivious to what's ahead and everything's about to take a nosedive into the ocean. And I feel like maybe, just maybe with what's been said around this table in confidence today, in confidence just between us, that there could be some craziness about to happen in the coaching world. Not one, not two, but multiple jobs, a streak of jobs, if you will, opening up. They said it couldn't be done anymore because they said nil was making money real. And you can't afford to pay buyouts now because you got to pay the players. So all these coaches are going to stay around forever and all of a sudden we're in week seven. Like these teams have half a season to go. Multiple big time names, multiple big time jobs potentially coming open. Could it happen?

[A]

It could.

[B]

It's a big storyline.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. You got another zinger with my boy?

[A]

No, I love Matt Rule. There's no zingers. I just hate being that guy that have to say all these things. But you know what you got me thinking when we're talking about parlays, this boosting with the boys. PBT winner from this past week. This person bet $5 on an eight leg parlay that was plus 258,050 and he won $12,907. Four Moneyline picks. Alabama over Vanderbilt, Florida over Texas, UCLA over Penn State. Virginia over Louisville. They also took four different games. The totals under Virginia, Louisville, Alabama and Vanderbilt. And Alabama, Kent State, Oklahoma, Boise State, Notre dame. A legs 258,000. Plus 258,000.

[C]

I mean, hey, that's amazing. Florida over Texas and UCLA over Penn State on Moneyline picks. Oh, I mean, you know, if you listen to you. Yeah, obviously Florida.

[B]

Should have been my parlay.

[C]

Should have been your parlay.

[A]

I mean, who takes UCLA over Penn State?

[B]

A psychopath.

[C]

Yeah. An absolute sicko.

[A]

Sicko. Makes me feel really good about my dog of the week.

[B]

Guy knew Nico was a generational quarterback.

[A]

Generational talent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Absolutely, man.

[C]

Boys, hey, great show. Great show, great show, great show. Let's have a lot of fun. Let's win them all. Good luck to you all.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

We can't all win them all.

[C]

Can't all. But good luck to you guys.

[B]

We can all have fun.

[A]

Somehow we're all gonna end up three and two again.

[B]

Yeah. Separation happens in November. That's fine. Everyone knows I'm still having fun in October.

[C]

Yeah, Coctober Spooktober Gauntlet up his schedule for our boy J.B. ovey.

[B]

He had a dream, though. And the Peacocks don't know if you heard JP Had a dream.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

And in this dream, despite the fact that they play, what, four top 10 teams, and like the number 11 team in the country in the month of October and the first week of November, which for our purposes, or per PI, which is the plural of purpose, is going to be cocktober. Despite all of that, JP had a dream. And in that dream, it's 2026, and he picks up his iPhone and he looks at it and he's got a text. It's not from Kurt Signetti, it's from Shane Beamer. And Shane Beamer says to him, bro, let's run it back.

[C]

Tell me what that means. Great show.

[A]

Great show, boys.

[C]

What a privilege to have a schedule like like South Carolina right now. Pressure is a privilege.

[A]

Subscribe. Unsubscribe. Subscribe. See you guys next time.

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Love you.

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