Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff First Round Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bussin' With The Boys

Episode: Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff First Round Games w/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan
Date: December 17, 2025

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Overview

This episode brings together hosts Will Compton and Taylor Lewan with college football analyst Josh Pate to break down the first round of the expanded College Football Playoff. The trio dives into heated debates around playoff selections, coaching rumors (especially at Michigan), and provides in-depth previews and picks for the opening matchups. With their signature banter, they also tackle the controversy around Alabama’s inclusion, the flaws in the current playoff system, and what to expect from each playoff game.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The State of Michigan Football & The Coaching Search

• Speculation Around the Next Michigan Head Coach
  (08:03–16:20)
  • The coaching search is “messy,” with 3-4 different decision-making camps: president, athletic director, board of regents.
  • Both Taylor and Josh like Kenny Dillingham ("If I could just choose whoever, it's going to be [him] even over [Kalen DeBoer]”—Taylor, 12:20), citing his energy and integrity, but Taylor notes institutional chaos may make the job unattractive.
  • Taylor proposes making Biff Poggi interim coach for 2026 while Michigan fixes leadership at the university, referencing past interim successes like Lloyd Carr (“The kids have all said if Biff Poggi’s the guy, we will stay.” —Taylor, 12:32).
  • Josh cautions that in the transfer portal era, verbal commitments from players to stay don’t hold much water (“Once there’s a difference between a hypothetical and Michigan having a press conference… that would be the pitch that would work on some kids.”—Josh, 16:57–17:36).
  • Will warns against picking an interim just to placate players: “That’s a recipe for disaster… unless the decision-makers truly believe that Biff Poggi is a head coach, head coach caliber.”—Will, 18:53

2. Engagement 'Farming' & Inside Jokes

• Josh and the Infamous Water GIF
  (06:05–07:52)
  • Josh’s use of cryptic GIFs on Twitter sparks fan theories about “engagement farming” and “clickbaiting.”
  • He quips: “It’s been a good crop yield this year.”—Josh, 07:15, and jokes about 'Clickbait Pate' t-shirts.

3. The Broken Playoff Selection Process (Alabama Controversy)

• Argument Over Alabama's Place in the CFP & 'Deep State CFB'
  (31:33–48:48)
  • Will’s main frustration is with the playoff selection process, not Alabama per se, though he admits personal bias: “My fight is against the system because it’s broken and it’s nothing but corruption.”—Will, 31:33
  • The debate gets heated: Will argues the “system protected Alabama to stay in the College Football Playoff” (43:14), criticizing inconsistent standards and “puppeteering” for at-large rankings.
  • Taylor fires back: “Alabama earned the right to play in the SEC championship… Alabama did nothing wrong here. BYU was never in it. Miami, Notre Dame... the reality is, you're talking about best. I'm talking about most deserving.”—Taylor, 46:18
  • Will ultimately recognizes he misdirected his anger: “I see where I was wrong and I see where my anger has been zeroed in on Alabama”—Will, 47:04

4. Playoff First Round Game Previews & Picks

• Alabama (#9) vs. Oklahoma (#8)

  • Location: Norman, OK; Bama favored by 1.5; O/U 40.5
  • Will leans Oklahoma due to home field and questions about Bama QB Ty Simpson’s health (“Something is up with Ty Simpson.”—Will, 32:10), says he's sticking to “system protest.”
  • Josh prefers the “under” on total points, seeing a possible ugly defensive battle and remainder of Bama’s injuries as key (35:03–36:23).
  • Taylor also likes Oklahoma, noting John Mateer’s return to health and home advantage (36:40, 37:58).
  • Notable dynamic: A running joke on Will’s “personal beef” with the Tide and the “Crimson corruption” nickname.

• Miami (#10) at Texas A&M (#7)

  • A&M favored by 3.5; O/U 49.5
  • Will: Favors home teams in first round, leans A&M but admits Miami has weapons.
  • Taylor: Picks Miami ("Miami plus 3.5, ACC bias... this is the last time I’m going to believe in them."—Taylor, 56:51–56:55); both hosts debate SEC vs. ACC perception.
  • Josh: No strong feel but takes A&M to cover, points out Miami’s past success vs. mobile QBs, but questions whether Reed can avoid turnovers (“Three multi-INT games in his final five. So he kind of tailed off a little bit”—Josh, 55:11).

• Tulane vs. Ole Miss

  • Ole Miss -17.5; O/U 56.5
  • Josh: Respect for Tulane’s athletes but thinks Ole Miss will win big: “This is one of the only spots… where you have these big spreads, but you also know the favorite has 100% of their attention on the opposition.”—Josh, 63:44
  • Will: Stays anti-G5, predicts a rout (“This is like a predator, just throw out the bait”—Will, 64:04)
  • Taylor: Vows to donate $50K and dress as the mascot if James Madison or Tulane pull the upsets (“If James Madison wins this game, somehow I will donate money to their nil fund.”—Taylor, 65:27)

• James Madison (#12) at Oregon (#5)

  • Oregon -28.5
  • All agree: It will be “ugly,” not competitive (“I think this is going to be bad. Like, paint the walls with their blood…”—Josh, 68:27)
  • Will: Gladiator reference—unarmed prisoners in the Coliseum.

5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It’s been a good crop yield this year.” —Josh Pate on engagement farming (07:15)
• “If I was just say, hey, I have to pay the coach… my coach is going to be Kenny Dilling[ham]. Even over Kaylin.” —Taylor Lewan (12:20)
• “Coach it like a rental car.” —Josh Pate on the Biff Poggi interim scenario (22:00)
• “Crimson corruption. They just happen to be part of it.”—Josh Pate, mocking accusations against Alabama (31:33)
• “Don’t fall for [potential]...Potential is like hope. It’s a really, really dangerous thing.”—Josh Pate, on Nebraska QBs (27:17)
• Debate gets meta: “Alabama did nothing wrong here... Miami, Notre Dame, the reality is you’re talking about best. I’m talking about most deserving.”—Taylor Lewan (46:18)
• Taylor’s on-air wager to become a mascot and shave his head if JMU or Tulane win (65:35)
• “Like in Gladiator, where they just throw unarmed prisoners out in the Coliseum, where the outcome’s already decided before the gates even open.”—Will Compton, on James Madison vs. Oregon (68:46)

6. Coaching Carousel & Extra Notes

• Josh drops that Marcus Freeman may be a candidate for the New York Giants job, implying a potential Notre Dame opening (25:16–26:14).
• Portal and transfer speculation, especially about Nebraska QBs (26:33–27:16).
• The group remains skeptical of any G5 team’s ability to compete, insisting current selection rules overrate them.

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Timeline & Timestamps

| Time | Topic / Quote | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 08:03–16:20 | Michigan coaching search, Kenny Dillingham, instability, foundation issues | | 16:20–20:30 | Player retention, transfer portal risk, why not to use player vote to pick coach | | 31:33 | "My fight is against the system..." – Will Compton | | 36:40 | “John Mateer... was the front runner when he got hurt” – Taylor Lewan | | 40:14 | Bama “scorched earth” potential, injury discussion | | 46:18–47:04 | Playoff system debate crescendo—Will admits he misdirected blame at Alabama | | 55:00 | Miami’s defense vs. mobile QBs – Taylor and Josh’s “stat-off” | | 63:44 | “You get the full weight... whatever it is, whether it’s Oregon or Ole Miss” – on Power 4/G5 mismatch | | 65:27 | Taylor’s bet: “If James Madison wins this game, somehow I will donate money to their NIL fund.” | | 68:27 | “I think this is going to be bad. Like, paint the walls with their blood…” – Josh Pate on Oregon–JMU |

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Conclusion

This was a classic Bussin’ With The Boys episode: full of strong, sometimes over-the-top opinions, insider banter (and wagers), and no shortage of friendly beef. The conversation jumped from coaching rumor mill to tactical previews, from exposing the “deep state” of college football to invoking Gladiator and Jurassic Park, but through it all, the passion for the game shone through. Even if you missed the episode, this summary captures the picks, arguments, and laughs that make the show a fan favorite.

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Transcript

[Taylor]

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, the time has finally come. We are in the first round of a college football playoffs. Got a slate of games for you. Before we get into the games, we're going to talk about the Heisman. I don't know how much we're going to talk about the Heisman. Really. I want to know about Michigan football and the state it's in between me and Josh. Bayton, Wilcompton. We got a. We had a rematch. Alabama at Oklahoma. The boys will be at that game this weekend. After that, Miami at Texas A and M. The boys will be at that game this weekend. Muffin. Tulane versus Ole Miss. We had a rematch on our hands. I wonder how that went last time. And then we got number 12, James Madison. Another muffin. Headed up to the northwest against Oregon. Two rematches in this game. Let's look over it. Last week, a lot of conversations took place. We had Army Navy salute our military. 50 stars, 13 bars. These colors don't run. Josh Pate, 1 0, incredible. Myself 01 not great. Will Compton, 10 all together. We're right here. This we're talking about. Separation. Friday, Saturday this week, boys and girls. Please subscribe, leave a comment. Tell your friends, it helps us. Let's have a great show.

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[Josh Pate]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Taylor]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pate]

I don't think you get what we're doing. Sure, I do.

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[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pate]

No.

[Taylor]

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[Will Compton]

Where do we even start?

[Josh Pate]

It's a great question. I know you seem conflicted mentally. You're in a lot of different places right now, and that ad read was not one of them. It was not one of them. But a pro does what a pro does.

[Taylor]

He does what a pro does.

[Josh Pate]

You ask where we are. I'd love to know where you are.

[Will Compton]

It's more of like, I'm thinking of all the headlines that have been going on. This is like you come in at the shop and we just get on the show. So we haven't had time to sit here and talk about all of our little. The internal dialogue that's happening, whether it be Michigan, whether it be, you know, the portal movement, whether it be Nebraska hoops, Nebraska basketball. Eleven. Yeah. Hey, Nebraska, Michigan, sitting at the top of the big ten.

[Taylor]

It might be a fun march for us.

[Will Compton]

So that's where my. That's where I am currently. And then I'm like, what. What are some things to ask Josh about that I want to learn More that I want to learn more of before we dive into these games.

[Taylor]

Here's the best part about that question you asked yourself is you don't really need to know what you need to ask Josh. I called Josh seven times this weekend, at least. And one of those times he answers the phone, we start talking. He goes, hey, let me just take over this conversation for us. You're going to ask me this, and I'll answer it like that. And then you're going to ask because you're a smart guy and we think the same way. So I'll answer the question like this. And truly, I'm like, he really is checking all the boxes I need for.

[Josh Pate]

This conversation so bad. You called me and let's say you called me at 9:31 and I had a 9:35 meeting. And you ever be in a conversation with someone where you know what they're calling for, you know where it's going to go? Let's just. Let's just cut the time in half.

[Taylor]

And, you know, it's way longer than the four minutes you have.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, yeah. I'll ask the questions for them, then I'll answer them. So he just sat there, and I just walked him through his conversation, and at the end he said, that's pretty much it. Have a good day, man. Yeah.

[Taylor]

And you know what? He made that meeting. He made that meeting.

[Josh Pate]

He made that meeting with a minute to spare.

[Will Compton]

Do you see the fodder I was building on last night on Twitter, somebody tweeted, josh Page is the king of knowing stuff. Five minutes after it gets reported.

[Josh Pate]

And I just circulated.

[Will Compton]

Amen. Do this.

[Taylor]

It was after that Jurassic park water.

[Josh Pate]

Gift that's been circulating this week and really this season. You know, both of you could help me on this, because I do in the group text, which is encrypted so no one can get into it. I do occasionally tell you guys what the water gift means. Have I or have I not batted a thousand on that this year?

[Taylor]

I think you have.

[Josh Pate]

I've let you know. So, like, you can vouch for me, you can be my alibi, because I can't let the public know what the water gift means. Like, last week, I found out DeBoer was going to put out a statement. I thought it was going to be on Friday, so I put out the water gift on Friday. Now it turns out they didn't release it until Sunday.

[Will Compton]

The T. Rex wasn't as close as you thought, but you knew it was there.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, it was big T. Rex.

[Taylor]

That's why the water was moving.

[Josh Pate]

So, yeah, people. People have been claiming that I'm engagement baiting. I don't even know how to turn monetization on. On Twitter. So I still haven't made any money off of it. But I am. I am engagement baiting and clickbaiting.

[Taylor]

What is your statement to people saying that you're engagement baiting?

[Will Compton]

Isn't it farming?

[Josh Pate]

Farming, whatever. It's been a good crop yield this year. It's been a really good crop yield this year.

[Taylor]

Are you engagement farming or not?

[Josh Pate]

I prefer engagement farming because if you go click baiting, then they start calling you clickbait pate.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

And then Alex hits you up. Then Alex hits you up and says, can we make a T shirt out of that? And I say, that's not what we're trying to do here, Alex.

[Will Compton]

That's really not what we might. Taylor, we might have to make that T shirt.

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[Josh Pate]

I can't conscious profit off of that.

[Taylor]

Just a glass of water. It sits right there.

[Will Compton]

Anytime a hater comes out, like a hater comes out and tries to go after Josh, we just threaded underneath by clickbait plate. Clickbait paid here.

[Taylor]

And you know what makes him such a pro too, is I ask him straight up, what is your statement about it? And his statement really wasn't even a statement to claim whether or not he was clickbaiting. He just likes the phrasing of the names better. Which brings us into the Michigan thing.

[Will Compton]

But which brings us into Michigan because.

[Taylor]

Kenny Dillingham and Kayla DeBoer, Caleb Deborah comes out of the statement. Alabama fans, geez. He put out a statement. He said he had a press conference. And then as a Michigan fan, we will look at it and go, well, he didn't really. He did kind of like laugh and say, yes about 2026. But 2026 is January 1st.

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Yeah.

[Taylor]

What happens January 2nd? And Dillingham's like, I'm all about people in my camp. Like, well, I don't know. Like, I'm here for my people who are in the trenches of me. All these things, Mental warfare. But doesn't really say, I'm for sure going to be at asu. So Michigan fans are sitting there everywhere, sitting the house on fire, being speculation, signaling this is going to be one of these guys are going to be our guys.

[Will Compton]

They're witnessing games being played. Like we know as players. Like anytime, like when agents got a hold of us, like, there's a. There's a way to go about the game with your messaging with your words and everything else. And it's like, even though DeBoer put out the statement and had the presser and was answering questions in the presser, the way he was like, I wasn't completely sold that he's sitting here, he's like, he's not shutting it all the.

[Taylor]

Way down, which is smart, even if your goal is to stay exactly where you're at. Like, don't just shut it down. That you lost all leverage.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. He talks about the way the team is handling the distractions. He's not. Yeah. Where is everybody?

[Josh Pate]

All right, so I used to, when I would watch coaching searches happen and I had nobody to talk to, no source, no nothing. I would just watch it. Purely as a fan, I would think that there was this huge game being played behind the curtain, which to a certain extent, there is, but the game doesn't work the way you think it works. All right, so we fast forward to modern day. I've observed it this week. Just as an example, I'll go over on the Michigan on 3 site and I'll look at the message board because I love to see what fans are saying about it, and I love to try and match it to what I may know to be true and see what's real and what's fake. All right, so there's been this working narrative this week. You guys have probably dealt with this, too. You go on your show or you go on whatever platform you have. People know that you know Kenny Dillingham. People know that I know Kenny Dillingham. Anytime you advocate for a guy, you know, that's misconstrued as, oh, man. He's like, he's in on whatever the machinations of this search are, and he's lobbying for his guy to get a raise, and he's using Michigan as leverage. And, like, I know the truth the whole time. And the truth is, I've talked to Kenny, like, five times in the past week. At no point did anything even remotely coming close to that ever come up. Same thing with, like, DeBoer. Same thing with Alabama. It's just if I'm talking about Kenny Dillingham publicly, it's. Cause I think he's a pretty good coach. I think it would be fun to watch him go to Michigan. If I were Michigan, I would pursue him. That's kind of it. We're sitting here, we're recording Wednesday morning, December 17th. I have no idea how the Michigan search is going to turn out. I don't know if Kenny would take the job if they offered it to him. I do know he would listen to it because anyone would listen because it's the Michigan job. But if anyone is sitting there thinking, oh, this is as simple as Michigan offers DeBoer, DeBoer says no, and then it's just Kenny's job. Yeah, it may turn out like that, but it's not Kenny sitting there frothing at the mouth, waiting for the job offer and just anxious to throw the deuces up to Arizona State. He's got a really, really firm root system at Arizona State for many different reasons that are unique to him in Arizona State. So he may take it if he gets offered. He may not. He may not get offered. It's just assumed that we understand the pecking order at Michigan is it's DeBoer and then probably Kenny Dillingham. For the record, I think that's what it is. I don't know that, though. You could probably shed some light on that because you can see under the Michigan hood a little bit more than the rest of us. We're just looking at the car from across the street.

[Taylor]

Yeah. I think the problem that Michigan has right now is there are essentially three or four different camps trying to make the decision of what's taking place. So we had a conversation on busting with the boys on money about if I was essentially, if I could just do whatever I wanted, who would I go after? Who my number one be? And my answer would be Kenny Dillingham. Now, I've talked to guys that he's coached with. I've known him for a very long time. I know the kind of guy he is from an integrity standpoint, character standpoint, and so he would be a perfect fit to go up, give some new blood to Michigan. A new energetic mindset can fix any offensive problem and then put a great defensive staff around him. I don't know what that noise is, but, oh, that dude's detailing outside. It's okay. No, that's. That's Will's Christmas present to the boys. You gotta love. That's part of the show. This brings me back to the train when we're on the bus when we first started the show.

[Will Compton]

Trains going by.

[Josh Pate]

I got a good story about that. After you get.

[Taylor]

If I was. If I was just say, hey, I have to pay the coach. My coach is going to be Kenny Dilling. If I could just choose whoever, it's going to be. Even over Kaylin, I think Kaylin, him leaving.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, you say over Kalin?

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Josh Pate]

Okay.

[Taylor]

I think it's I1 I don't think Kaylin's gonna leave. I don't think that's an option in the perfect world. Like if he goes in the thought process of how many of those aliens you bring from Tuscaloosa to Ann Arbor. Now all of a sudden does Michigan go from like, what's gonna happen 26 to we're looking at a college football playoff team? Like, yeah, that's exciting. But I'm talking about the next 20 years. Who's going to be our guy? I think Kenny Dilling fits that profile for Michigan perfectly. But then I started to think about it more and what Michigan has is a much bigger issue than who the next head coach is going to be at this. At the school, they have no president, they have an interim president. The AD is kind of sitting there and the internally they don't know how long he's going to be there. The board of regents have a meeting, they decide like, hey, he's going to be there for now. But there's no like long term. So if you're a head coach and you're walking into a place that foundationally is cracked everywhere, my now thought is stick with biff poggy for 2026. Gary Moeller was a head coach at Michigan in 1995. He had a situation go down where he got fired from that job and an interim head coach was named in there. His name was Lloyd Carr and he was there for over a decade. Yep. So I been told by players and by other people that the kids have all said if Biff Poggy's a guy, we will stay. And so if you are taking from a PR standpoint, we, we got to get this whole, like I've had people in the school be like, this whole Michigan man thing is dead. Like this isn't just outside noise like that. That whole phrase of Michigan man thing, it is dead. And we want, we need to bring it back. What better way to bring it back then if you sit there and go, hey, we clearly have more issues than just who the next head coach is going to be. We need a top down foundation on who's going to be the leader of this ship. We're going to name Biff for 2026, by the way. You play Oklahoma, you play Indiana, you play Ohio State, you play Penn State and you play Oregon. That's who you play next year. So that's an absolute gauntlet for a guy to come into losing 30 guys. If he were to come in, if what I'm hearing is true, make Biff the interim head coach, use 2026 to find true leadership from a president's standpoint and figure out what you're going to do with your ad. And if it's still the same thought process, let's say Alabama has the same season they do next year. It's like, probably easier to get Kaylin DeBoer now, isn't it? If you're looking at Arizona State and it's like, okay, we want, we want Kenny. But Kenny still has this belief that ASU can be this perennial blue chip program next year if he goes 8 and 4 again, the reality sets in. It's like ASU is unfortunately, like, it's a state school. It's not like it's not in Michigan. It's not an Ohio State. It's not Oregon, Ohio State, Nebraska. It's not a school that like the world is talking about. It's really the region that you're sitting in. And it takes longer for guys to figure that out because a lot of coaches go into asu, they fix the problems that take place. They have some level of success. They think, oh, this is the new norm. And then a bunch of shitbags want to come into Tempe, Arizona because the weather's awesome, the girls are beautiful, and you can party hard. And so it takes people longer to get there. So maybe you can get the same guys in the next couple of years or next year without. Without the price tag being as high. That's kind of where I've sat since Monday when I was like, we need to go after Kenny. Kenny Dillingham. I've kind of looked at it from like a more of a 30,000 foot view. And it's like, well, Michigan's got way more problems. Why not fix those problems? It's a better look for the school. And Biff Poggy, every person I've ran across is like, these kids absolutely love him. And then just back him with resources. You still want to be competitive, Biff, bring in your guys. NFL caliber quarterback coach, a good oc. Give these kids what they need from a development standpoint and play 20, 26. And it fucking. That's a gauntlet, dude. Like, it is a gauntlet. So then if he goes 7 and 5 next year, it's very easy to go, hey, we figured all the pieces. Now let's go find our guy. What is your thought to that?

[Josh Pate]

I don't think. I think it's viable. I think there's a line on the piece of paper. So you have one candidate, three candidates, five candidates. And then there's a line wherever the line is, that's the point past which you're not willing to go because anyone below that line is too big a risk relative to just keeping Biff.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

I don't know how deep that line is on the piece of paper. My guess is probably four candidates deep. Let's just guess. All right, here's the problem, and it's little apples to oranges. When you look at an interim situation in the past versus now, kids can say they'll stay if the interim is maintained. There's no way to hold them to it.

[Taylor]

True.

[Josh Pate]

There's no way.

[Will Compton]

I agree.

[Josh Pate]

And say kids, let's say there are 50 kids in the locker room. 60 kids in the locker room. All right? Let's say 32 of them come to you and say, hey, we're all staying. All right? That means you. The consensus based on what you've heard is every kid we've heard from says they're going to stay. Well, the ones who aren't going to stay probably don't have a lot of motivation to articulate that to you. So there's a reason why. It's like people who only tell you, you look good, man. You look good. You look really good. Well, no one really wants to look you in the face and say, you look kind of hideous, man. But there may be a lot of people in the room that think you're ugly. They just are not telling you right. So it could be similar to that. And also it could just be that a kid says one thing and does the other. Because once there's a difference between a hypothetical and Michigan having a press conference saying, biff Pogey is our interim this year, and then 13 schools coming your way, offering you as much, if not more, than Michigan's gonna pay you and saying, we're set up to win a championship next year, you guys have to play that schedule with an interim head coach that pretty much the whole world knows is only going to be there one year. That would be the pitch that would work on some kids. And so I just don't know if you can afford to go that route in the Portal era. But it still may make sense to go that route, if that. If that makes sense. That's why I think you really, if you put your crosshairs on Kenny, you just got to offer. Truly, you can't say no. And there is a school of thought, by the way, I've talked to some people about this. There is a school of thought that if you're going to go hire A guy who's like top of the mountain. If you were trying to get Marcus Freeman or Caitlin DeBoer or someone like that to come to Ann Arbor, they're probably not coming there. Unless they have a full understanding of the AD situation, the president situation, they're going to require full alignment. There is a school of thought that a Kenny Dillingham, maybe an Eli Drinkwitz, like a someone like that would almost look at that situation as a little more advantageous for them because they walk in and they get to be a little bit more the center of the world instead of the world already existing and them just being dropped into it. Now. I don't know if they think that way, but that's a school of thought that's out there.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I just think if you're a decision maker looking at wherever the line is, like you have your top four or five candidates and you're being kind of imprisoned to the thought of I'm leaning to stay Biff Poggy because the kids want him to stay. Like, to me that, that's, that's a, that's a recipe for disaster. Unless, unless the decision makers truly believe that Biff Poggy is a head coach, he's head coach caliber. Like it's that they want. Not at all. Like you take into account a little bit that the kids want him. If you're leaning like we want Biff Poggy to be the guy, then you have the sign offs by the players. Like that to me is like secondary. That would be like a secondary part of the decision. If I'm looking at who I'm going to bring in as the next head coach.

[Josh Pate]

What did you just get done saying about Sharon? Not you. Like a lot of people got done saying this about Sharon. They were saying after the USC loss, after the Ohio State loss, they were just looking at the situation, saying if Sharon were, if our job was open right now and Sharon was on the open market, would we hire him? And the answer was pretty much no from everyone. I'd ask the same thing about Biff. If the job were open and you're just, you're free to go anywhere you want to and you're just working with an open pool of hiring candidates, would Biff be the guy? If the answer is no, he shouldn't be your interim. Unless it's a really drastic situation, I.

[Taylor]

Feel like it's becoming, it does not feel like for Michigan it's a very drastic situation. There was a tweet that went out like, this is this Michigan scandal is the biggest scandal in college football since the last Michigan scandal. Like at this point I just think like it seems like there's a lot going on and I, I'm sure there's a. There, there's a frame of thought for Michigan. It's like everybody's just associated with the last five years. Let's get him out of the building and just start fresh.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Which I understand. I'm just trying to think of what is the best long term move for machine. Because let's say Kenny does take the job. I'll be rooting for him. We're all. We all know Kenny. Like we want him to be successful. Is he. Is he going to have. Is he be able to walk into the mission that we have right now and truly be successful right away? I don't know that answer. As opposed to if you give a guy a year Biff and it's like hey, you handle this for the year. You understand? We understand. You got to take this. And we're going to all limit our expectations on everything because you have a gauntlet of a schedule and we're going to go find the right coach and it could be Kenny and going into 27. Well now you have your president, you have your AD. He's been the choice. All the boosters are behind it in the world that we live in now with Nil now he's coming into a much more foundationally put together school as opposed to this kind of mess that's taking place. But it goes back to your thing of do you want to be a center universe or do you want the universe to exist and be dropped into it? And that's just basically their, their mindset because whoever is the next guy, I just want them to be successful. And it seems like this is. I've gone from this decision has to be made before Christmas if you're going to hire a coach like whether it's DeBoer or Dillingham or whoever, it does need to be before Christmas. But if it goes on past that we just got a punt because no one's gonna transfer. None of that. It's like just keep these kids together for a year or as many as that'll stay that say they're gonna stay and keep it moving.

[Will Compton]

I'm just thinking in Biff's shoes.

[Taylor]

People.

[Will Compton]

Want me to have the job but it sounds like I'll only have the job for a year.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Think about who Biff is though.

[Josh Pate]

Coach it like a rental car.

[Taylor]

Like figure like Biff is a self made multi tens of millions of dollar guys. Started his own hedge fund, got into coaching, coached high. He just loves high school football. Met Harbaugh, started doing offensive line drills in a hotel room with him on a dresser. And he's like, you should come and work with us. He's been a part of it goes, takes a job at Charlotte, doesn't work out for him. Comes back as like this analyst type of guy. Like, dude's not doing it because he needs money or legacy. He wants to eat coffee, Haagen Dazs ice cream and hang out with his wife. Kind of need that at Michigan right now. Kind of needed guys just going to eat too much ice cream. Hanging out with his wife. Right. It kind of might be perfect for Michigan right now. So. But I don't disagree. Like, is Biff gonna walk away from this and he's gonna have a bunch of calls for the head coach?

[Will Compton]

No.

[Taylor]

Yeah, he's not. But if kids are saying they're gonna stay, which you're absolutely right, there are guys that are gonna leave. Why not just keep this dude in here for a year?

[Will Compton]

And a kid might feel some type of way. But I'm telling you, the way these agents and everything operate behind closed doors, they make that pitch to him like, that he can't. You can't trust what's coming out of these college players mouths nowadays.

[Josh Pate]

No doubt.

[Taylor]

No doubt.

[Will Compton]

1. I would love to see the domino fall of DeBoer, because then we have a whole year old now. You're on Lane Kiffin. We have a. Oh, well, yeah, I guess potentially Lane. But then you have a whole nother drama series opening up with the University of Alabama.

[Taylor]

And poor Alabama, who's really had Nick Saban forever, goes against a guy who was at Washington, played in the national championship and like, all right, we're set for the next two decades. And then all this shit goes down up north and they just get uprooted.

[Will Compton]

Poor Alabama. No, no, there ain't no poor Alabama. They got cradled into this college football playoff that we're about to talk about.

[Josh Pate]

I will remind you guys, if you were to check the odds cradled, I would remind everyone. You know the New York Giants job is still open, right?

[Taylor]

Yeah. Mike Tomlin.

[Josh Pate]

Marcus Freeman exists too.

[Will Compton]

Dude, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Taylor]

Hey, I'm a big fan of Freeman.

[Will Compton]

This is a paid ism. That doesn't just. It doesn't just casually. Yeah, that doesn't just get casually thrown in here. This man doesn't give a shit about the NFL. He just brought up the New York Giants out of nowhere, he had to.

[Taylor]

Google where that was.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, the New York Giants job is open.

[Josh Pate]

Did you guys know they built MetLife Stadium?

[Taylor]

We were driving from New York, for all people watching, and we're going to.

[Will Compton]

Get back to that. Just again, another spot driving by.

[Taylor]

And would you say, you're like, man, how long has MetLife Stadium here? And we're like, I think it's been here for a while. Like over. He's like, no way. It's been here longer than 10 years. Like, oh, for sure. That just shows how much you just. You see the letters. NFL.

[Will Compton]

He thought the MetLife Stadium, man, I.

[Josh Pate]

Know my venues, but I just, I lost track of time. MetLife is the kid who you saw when he was a baby, and then he shows up at family reunion and he's 13 years old, he's got a mustache. And you're like, where did the time go? Yeah, I look at MetLife and he's my 13 year old cousin with a mustache. And I wonder where did the time go?

[Will Compton]

Get him back on track. Yeah. Where you have a pulse on everything is the college football world again. You just went, you just went out there. Hey, the New York Giants job is still open. You've never cared about the New York Giants job. Now it seems like you know a little something about the New York Giants.

[Taylor]

Job at your cousin.

[Josh Pate]

I just think Marcus Freeman is going to be in play for the Giants job. I think a lot of people in the college football administrative world know that, slash expect that. The agency world know that, slash expect that. Not a done deal. You know, I'm not going Schefter. We can press him, we can kind of corner him when we get up there and we can ask him what he knows about this. But my whole point is, if it's even a remote possibility, and it certainly is, then that means the Notre Dame job may be open as well. So the coaching cycle is not close to done yet.

[Will Compton]

Because you don't just bring up Marcus Freeman as something you saw surface level.

[Josh Pate]

I'm gonna be honest, I think the world. I think the world just ended.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I hear that.

[Josh Pate]

I think that was it.

[Taylor]

We're dead. We're just living on our own.

[Josh Pate]

Wow. So this is what it's like, huh? Yeah.

[Will Compton]

So, you know, a little bit more.

[Josh Pate]

Not a whole lot more.

[Will Compton]

Not. I'm saying, you know, enough to know, like, this will be a serious. That Freeman, New York.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. He's gonna get a serious, Serious. Absolutely. He's gonna. He is getting a serious look. Yeah. No, what I Don't. So I. When it comes to NFL job openings from the college perspective, I have racehorse blinders on. I. I have like one angle I can see it from.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

So I have like one sliver of the pie. The rest of the pie. Got no clue about. Got no clue.

[Will Compton]

Are you a portal guy? You know any direction Nebraska might be going in?

[Josh Pate]

I got Pete Nikos his number. What do you want to know?

[Will Compton]

I just want to know who could be on the target list. I'm sure all the top quarterbacks are. Yeah. See if NOS can give me Sorens. Beats number.

[Josh Pate]

Gotcha.

[Taylor]

If you heard the name DJ Lagway, would you feel excited about that or nervous about that?

[Will Compton]

Excited?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. He was on Josh Pate's top 10 SEC quarterbacks list in the number one.

[Taylor]

Did you. Did you see Josh pay do his. Hey, we. Look, we're going to look back at our predictions for the year. Talk about over.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, no, I'd be excited. I think any quarterback that's has the ability to be like a dual threat possibility and can sling the rock around.

[Taylor]

It'Ll be wild to see DJ Lagway. Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Let me just warn you.

[Will Compton]

In a Husker jersey.

[Josh Pate]

Let me just warn you about potential. Potential is like hope. It's a really, really dangerous thing. Don't fall. Don't fall for it.

[Taylor]

Can I tell you something?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

You said those words. He didn't hear one of them. Yeah, because this is. That is just Will in a nutshell.

[Josh Pate]

You got to make him show you.

[Taylor]

You said.

[Will Compton]

We just witnessed that whole thing.

[Taylor]

Three weeks from now, we're going to pull literally the start of the new year. We're going to pull up the Nebraska Cornhusker schedule.

[Will Compton]

And.

[Taylor]

Go, boys. Am I crazy to say 10, 2, 11 or 1?

[Josh Pate]

Boys, you see this? This is not a floor we're standing on. That's 10 wins. Okay. That's the floor.

[Will Compton]

I do nothing.

[Taylor]

We're going to win the Natty.

[Will Compton]

I do nothing but consume potential.

[Taylor]

Hope is a fickle thing. Will, be careful.

[Will Compton]

No, we went seven and five this year. You know the potential and hope I was buying into before the year started. Yes, you do.

[Taylor]

You know what the exciting thing is? 8 and 4. Floor, floor, floor, floor.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. With the schedule next year.

[Taylor]

You got a gauntlet, too.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we play them all.

[Taylor]

That would have been catastrophic. What?

[Will Compton]

We play them all as well. Oregon.

[Taylor]

We gotta go to war together next year. Arm in arm, red and blue. Like the handkerchief thing.

[Will Compton]

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[Taylor]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Taylor]

So hey, we're starting True classic game of the week. That's what I'm hearing right now.

[Will Compton]

College Football Playoff.

[Taylor]

College Football Playoff. True Classic game of the week. Every Saturday's got games, but only one fits just right. This is a true classic game, but we go at number nine, Alabama versus number eight, Oklahoma. Caleb versus Brent Venables. Oklahoma won their last matchup, 2321. Right now, Alabama's favored in Norman and the total points in the game is 40 and a half. William.

[Will Compton]

Oh me?

[Taylor]

You can pass.

[Will Compton]

I'm going to Oklahoma. I'm going Oklahoma. And people are probably out there saying, like, why is Will Wills anti Alabama now? I'm not anti Alabama. My fight is never, has never been against Alabama. My fight has been against the system because it's broken and it's nothing but corruption.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, Crimson corruption.

[Will Compton]

Crimson corruption. They just happen to be part of it because they did like the way that they ended the year. They got, you know, they had their big bad, you know, father, big conference in this situation, come in deep state college football swaddle and put a pass in their mouth, tell them it's going to be okay. You're not going to fall a lick in these college. We're going to protect you as much as we can protect you because we have another mission and that's the ACC and that's squeezing out Notre Dame football. So my fight's always been against the system. Not as much Alabama. They just happen to be. They just happen to be, you know, that target that I'm looking at. But I got. Go ahead.

[Taylor]

No, no, no, no. I'll let you finish.

[Will Compton]

I have Oklahoma here because Oklahoma's at home. I'm kind of favoring these teams that are getting to play at home, getting that juice, the energy that they'll have in. In Norman, Oklahoma. I'm envisioning a healthier matier because we saw the way Mattier was going, your favorite before the season started for the Heisman. I just, I think a healthy material. And then I also just think something is up with Ty Simpson. You look at his. The first part of the first. The majority of the season he was throwing for about 70% completion rate to 2800 yards, 22 touchdowns, two interceptions.

[Taylor]

Heisman Kennedy Heisman.

[Will Compton]

A dude who is in the Heisman Con Love me some Ty Simpson. Keeps the ball high and tight. Don't forget Alabama. Keep the ball high and tight. I've been an Alabama guy throughout the year when I picked. When I picked you. But over the last three, Ty Simpson's thrown for 54%, averaging 160 yards through the year, four touchdowns, three interceptions. And we got to watch. We watch the SEC championship game and something just looks off. Could be injured. And so my mentality is Alabama going out to Norman, Oklahoma. I like Norman. I like a healthier material that they're going to continue to stop Alabama's run game. I know Oklahoma doesn't have much of a run game either, but I'm rolling with the Sooners small line.

[Taylor]

They don't want to run.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And then again if you're leaning on Ty Simpson, and I'm of the belief that something's up with Ty Simpson, I'm just not. I'm not getting in that foxhole with Alabama.

[Josh Pate]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

And if I've had this stance of Alabama shouldn't be in the College Football Playoff, I'm kind of sitting there seeing if they're going to drop this game. I almost need them to lose so then I can continue to beat that drum that they made the wrong decision.

[Taylor]

This has nothing to do with the choice you're making of which team, but if Oklahoma does beat Alabama, definitely adds to a spicy storyline.

[Will Compton]

Definitely adds to a spicy storyline.

[Josh Pate]

I've never been a believer that the playoff results have anything to do with the selection process that is last year a lot of people thought SMU shouldn't get in. I thought they should have gotten in. They got their doors blown off in round one. I still thought they should have been in. It's just they played a much better team on the road and they lost. But like you get judged on your body of work in the season, not retroactively what you did in the playoff. So having said that, I slightly lean Oklahoma, but I think I've got a better side on this. I think I got a better angle on this and I think it's the under at 40 and a half. I feel the best about that because I do agree with you about Ty Simpson. So last game when these two teams plays about a month ago, they got their offensive production. Bama outgained them 406 to 212. They had a 23 to 12 first down edge. But it was the turnovers and they weren't freak turnovers. They were forced turnovers. Oklahoma did a great job punching the ball loose, taking the ball. And I wonder if Alabama's taking a top 30 caliber passing attack into Norman. On paper it says they're number 23 in the country, but we watched them the last month of the season.

[Will Compton]

I was going to say on paper it's kind of helped fluff them as well as they performed in the first, what, eight weeks.

[Josh Pate]

So you've had two weeks off. They are getting Josh Cuevas back. Parker Braille's fruit at center a lot healthier. You're hoping you get healthier. If they are like if that, if that switch clicks again for them, they could throw for 300 on Oklahoma because they already did. So did Ole Miss, so did Tennessee. So that's been done a few times this year. My concern is twofold. Number one, maybe it's still not there. In which case you're talking about winning with 17 points on the board and hoping you hold them to 13. And then secondly is Bama's been dominated in field position against Oklahoma and also against Georgia. Against oklahoma, I think ou had 4 drives start in Bama territory and Bama didn't start a drive past their own 25 yard line. So Oklahoma just tilted the field as hard as I've seen in any big game all year. Georgia did something similar to Bama. If they could correct the field position stuff and if their offense is just a touch better. You don't need a ton of points to beat Oklahoma here. Everyone knows that Bama's defense has been playing really, really good ball. It's just that their backs have been put against the wall by the other 2/3 of the team. So if they can play a standardized game, I would probably like Bama to win the game. There's no guarantee. I get that. What I do think I'll get to a low scoring game. So I'll take the under at 40 and a half.

[Taylor]

Do you think that John Mateer him getting healthy and having these three weeks to rest his hand when he. When he heard it and we knew what the injury was. This is an injury that the only thing that fixes this injury after surgery is rest in time.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Because before he got that injury, he was sitting there at a Heisman front runner. He's your Heisman guy.

[Josh Pate]

Correct. He was the front runner when he got hurt.

[Taylor]

Right. He was a front runner when he got hurt. And he was a guy that was dynamic with his legs. He had put the ball anywhere, all over the field to throw it deep to the sidelines on a missile, a little arc on it. Like he was doing things. It's like, oh, this guy's a first overall pick, top 10 type of guy. Now we've gotten these 21 days for him to sit rest and do some rehab on this thumb. When he comes back, you're kind of rooting for him because you're like, oh, what a guy's guy. Like he's over in Chipotle talking shit, being like, I'm playing this week, I'm doing all these things. And so we've kind of seen them. They lose to Texas and then we kind of all just forget about Oklahoma and they just, you know, continue to win and do their thing and then make it in the playoffs. The thing that's the biggest thing for me is one, they're at home. They're a great team at Home Alabama, watching their skid, the back half of the season, like, just kind of not put it together, their top 23 offense. But then we watched them against the SEC championship, we watched them against South Carolina. Like, we see all these things kind of take place, and it's like, all right, they're getting healthier, but they're not as healthy as they can be. The questions with Ty Simpson, like, we love him high and tight. He's dapping the boys off as the games about to start. But I just think a healthy John Mattier and Brett Venables defense is the thing, is the thing that gets this done. So I'm half with you the first half about coddling, swaddling, and loving on a baby and having them be Alabama. I'm out on that.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And I support you. And good luck with the Crimson. The Crimson Cult. Not my.

[Will Compton]

Again. The fight isn't against Bama. The fight is against the system.

[Taylor]

Okay, fair enough.

[Will Compton]

So you believe the system's right? You believe the system.

[Josh Pate]

You're a system guy.

[Will Compton]

You're a system.

[Taylor]

I think. I think the way we talked about the system, I think Alabama is in that the way I should still should be made.

[Josh Pate]

We agree. So we do agree.

[Taylor]

I don't think Alabama.

[Will Compton]

He says process is broken. Process is part of.

[Taylor]

Process is broken. Process is broken. Alabama fix the process. And I'm assuming our brains because, you know, we think very much alike. Based on the conversation I have where Josh Pay took it over and asked all the right questions, I think Alabama's still in there, but based on how they finish the season. John Matier getting healthy. I like John Matier. I like Oklahoma.

[Josh Pate]

If Alabama wins this game. Remember when we were doing the alt cast, I said like 37 different times because there were 37 different instances where it was warranted. How bad? Bama was missing their tailbacks. Not because they were going to run the ball for four at 4.8 yards per carry, because they couldn't. They couldn't incorporate tailbacks in the passing game. All right, so Jam Miller's back in this game. So that's a really, really important thing to watch. Along with Cuevas being back and along with their center, Parker Brailsford not dragging a peg leg around trying to start. So if Bama does win, that's why it probably happened. But I just feel so good that at least one team is going to have their offense really throttled, maybe both of them, down to the point where I think the under is the safer play for me.

[Will Compton]

And then also Oklahoma's just gotten to like keep to themselves. These last. These last couple weeks it's been about just John Mateer getting healthy because we understand the hand and the rehab. A lot of it is just some rest and everything else. But they've just been able to work in the lab, be in the weight room. Nobody's talking about them, nobody's bothering them. Alabama, you need all of these things that kind of. You're hoping this gets back on track because of what we saw in the first eight weeks. Is something going on with Ty Simpson, not to mention too debord. Just being in all of these. In all this conversation with coaching. Like there are distractions going around and I have no doubt that the Alabama teams handled it well. But we all know that that can play a factor. And then you got to pack up and go on the road to Norman, which again I think is a. Will be a big X factor for Oklahoma on Friday.

[Taylor]

Josh, is there a possibility that Alabama goes on a scorched earth type of thing like Ohio State did last year?

[Josh Pate]

I don't. There's an outside chance. If they were to get the guys healthy at the right time, then they could look like the passing attack that they looked like earlier in the year. But remember even when they were humming like there, it's such a fine needle to thread. They were still winning close games. The Vandy game, I know it was a double digit game. The Tennessee game was a double digit game. Those like turned on one play. There was a pick six down near the goal line in the Tennessee game right before the half. So they still have to like thread the needle. But the answer to your question is yes. I'd have to see it to believe it.

[Will Compton]

Is it?

[Josh Pate]

The answer to the question is you.

[Will Compton]

Believe Bama could go on a run and win the national title.

[Josh Pate]

Here's my question.

[Taylor]

He was the original pick.

[Josh Pate]

So I'm trying to.

[Will Compton]

I know but I also want to pretend. I also want to pretend. Like part of me thinks like I don't think they. Does he think that they can really win the national title or does he know his dad, Savannah watches the show. They have they like themselves in Bama. He knows the truth but he's like I gotta go home. You know, I gotta. I gotta let him know there is an outside. An outside pulse.

[Josh Pate]

Wow.

[Will Compton]

What's up?

[Josh Pate]

Wow, that's heavy.

[Will Compton]

With what? In regards to what?

[Taylor]

Josh got it. Let him answer the question.

[Josh Pate]

He's asking a lot of deep questions about Alabama here to be an anti system guy. There was a question from the audience that. That is kind of leading me to believe that maybe it is a little more personal between you and Alabama than you've let on.

[Will Compton]

There.

[Taylor]

There.

[Will Compton]

There's some. There is absolutely some personal ties in it because everybody sits up here and they're all so pro sec about everything else. Like everybody, I'm the guy. It's. The system protected Alabama to be in this college Football Playoff. The way that they ended the year, they are not a team, in my opinion, that should have been in the College Football Playoff. So knowing that, knowing that, that's my feeling on perspective of watching the game, understanding the system and everything else. Do I think that they can go on a run and win the national title? I don't think that they're a football team that can win the national title this year.

[Josh Pate]

Josh Klump just handed me a trivia question. Name the first team left out of last year's College Football Playoff. Taylor.

[Taylor]

Alabama.

[Josh Pate]

That would be correct.

[Taylor]

This man talked about, I'm against the system. I'm not against the Crimson Tide. And all it took was one question to pull the thread. You'd be like, I'll be honest. SEC biased, switched off.

[Josh Pate]

Everybody sits up here.

[Taylor]

This is also coming from the same person who literally sit on the bus in the beginning of the season going, sec has the most death. And my mouth, my jaw hits the ground. I'm like, bro, what happened to you? We've been a pro. Like, it's been very clear. We've been biased, Big Ten guys. This whole time. You're like, bro, what's the truth? And now it all comes back. You just mad the elephants back in.

[Will Compton]

This is blowing my mind, buddy.

[Taylor]

Your words produced mine.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. The system.

[Taylor]

The system. Let's go.

[Will Compton]

I can't be more clear here.

[Josh Pate]

The system.

[Taylor]

You're just talking to me, brother. We're all here. I know.

[Will Compton]

I got you. The system protected Alabama to stay in the college football playoffs.

[Josh Pate]

Except for last year when the system boxed Alabama out.

[Taylor]

Hey, come here. I'm gonna tell you this right now. The system did not protect Alabama. Alabama earned the right to play in the SEC championship. So when you have multiple other teams.

[Josh Pate]

No, no, no.

[Taylor]

I gave you. I gave you. I gave you your chance. I let you speak. I'll let you speak. I can do the back and forth thing if you want for a little bit. I can't be interrupted. I'm having to have a conversation.

[Will Compton]

Talk to me about how you agree with the system of college football.

[Taylor]

I don't agree with how the totality of the System works. But if we're talking strictly about Alabama, Alabama was given the right to play in an extra game. And for you to hurt them so bad that they can't play in the playoffs now would take away from all championship games. So if you're saying, hey, we should get rid of championship games, then we can have a whole new conversation. But as it sits right now, you can't let Alabama be out of the playoffs after Ole Miss and Oklahoma and A and M are also in and they weren't good enough to play in the SEC championship.

[Will Compton]

This is a much larger conversation because it involves several different teams to where if you can't sit there and see that deep state college football, there was zero, zero punishment for that ass whooping in the SEC championship. And then you saw punishment going on with other conferences. Big 12, BYU at large rankings. I'm not talking about the College Football Playoff. I'm talking about at large rankings. If you can't see the puppeteering that was happening to manipulate the system, squeeze out another football team that I won't name because everybody's like, oh, you want Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff? No, no, no, no. You can sit there and look at it and be like, they got squeezed out. And if you look at everything that happened, all the insurance policies that were put in place to make sure that happens because Virginia couldn't win the ACC title game, I don't know how else to explain it. I know it's getting directed to me. It's just Alabama, SEC bias, everything else. But this is a much larger conversation because the system failed this year. The system was broken this year.

[Taylor]

Can I tell you something? You just talked about the system and how much it's failed, but not one time brought up why Alabama should be out. BYU was never in it because. Hold on, BYU was never in it. Notre Dame. I understand your argument. Unfortunately, your argument is incorrect. Notre Dame lost to Miami and they had a head to head against another team. And Miami beat them by Moore later in the season.

[Josh Pate]

No.

[Will Compton]

Okay, so talking about time, what was that, what was that last part?

[Taylor]

Miami beat them by more that played.

[Will Compton]

No factor in Miami getting into the playoff. Miami is in the playoff not because of their head to head win. Miami's in the playoff because Virginia lost the ACC title.

[Taylor]

I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with. That's what ended up happening. However, if I sat there and I said, look at it, Taylor, who should be in Miami? Notre Dame. It's clear Miami should be in over Notre Dame.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Yeah, it's not best.

[Will Compton]

That's just where.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it's not best. It's most deserving. Alabama didn't do nothing. Yeah. All right. They had the right to go play in a game. They had the right to go play the SEC championship. They earned it over everybody else in that conference. And they get their ass whipped. No doubt. But if you take them out of the playoffs, it's dead. And that's crazy. Alabama did nothing wrong here. BYU was never in it. They were a placeholder for these G5 teams. And you and I are very aligned on how G5 should not be in it. So BYU, you can just crumple that, throw out the window. Miami, Notre Dame. I understand your argument, but the reality is, you're talking about best. I'm talking about most deserving. Both of our arguments play if we live in those worlds. But Alabama did nothing to you.

[Will Compton]

I see where I was wrong and I see where my anger has been zeroed in on Alabama being in and me going as far as to say they should be in the college football.

[Josh Pate]

Hold on a second.

[Will Compton]

And that is where I spoke out of both sides of my mouth there. Because when I'm making the argument about the system at large, it came down to, hey, there's also a world where I can see Alabama as long as they fall back a slot. But there was zero. There was zero repercussion from what happened. What we saw on championship weekend.

[Josh Pate]

You hear that?

[Will Compton]

So I agree that my anger got very much directed toward Alabama. My anger got very much directed toward Alabama. But the system at large broke.

[Josh Pate]

I think we're okay. I think we're okay. No, he was doing the deep state color.

[Taylor]

We can't shake hands.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Taylor]

You apologized. I'm like, oh, great, that's gross.

[Josh Pate]

It's not over.

[Taylor]

Let me shake his hands so we can come back together and.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Taylor]

You're still mad.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Taylor]

Okay. All good. Yeah, all good.

[Josh Pate]

He was doing the thing, right? He was doing the beach take.

[Taylor]

So you're on Oklahoma. Yeah, for a multitude of reasons.

[Josh Pate]

I'll call you back.

[Taylor]

Because I think they're going to win and you're on the under.

[Josh Pate]

I have no idea what just happened.

[Taylor]

Was that Dillingham?

[Josh Pate]

No, it was a 205 area code number. They heard some stuff was happening on the show.

[Will Compton]

Anger directed at the Crimson Tide couldn't shake. So it's.

[Taylor]

That's the problem right there, G. Because you said no. You said by you saying, I understand. Will's brain just heard it's okay for me to do what I just did. And we can't have it. When someone's. When someone's wrong, it's okay for them to sit in it.

[Will Compton]

No, no, no.

[Taylor]

See, you did this.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I'll be right back.

[Taylor]

You did this.

[Will Compton]

I got too zoomed in. I got too zoomed in because my zoom out, it wasn't. When I'm talking about it all. At large again. Really? The at large ranking protection that happened in the ACC stuff is where my anger is about the system.

[Taylor]

Can I take a wild guess at what game you're taking? Who you're taking in Miami, Texas A.

[Will Compton]

And M. Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Notre Dame being both them teams right now.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I know, it's. It was kind of sad to watch Marcus Freeman tap him on the leg at the Heisman ceremony and be like, we'd love for him to stay another year. And he just smiled and nodded. He yown.

[Josh Pate]

Wish you boys the best.

[Taylor]

Yeah, wish you the best. But Friedman sounds like he's gone too.

[Josh Pate]

May both be gone.

[Taylor]

Go to that brand new stadium at MetLife in New York.

[Josh Pate]

Brand spanking new next game.

[Will Compton]

Let's go, man. Nicole Boltra, Superior bragging rights for Superior Light Beer.

[Taylor]

Now, what is the record right now? 8 and 7. I'm 8 and 7. I believe I'm 8 and 7.

[Will Compton]

I think we're tied.

[Taylor]

You think we're tied?

[Will Compton]

Let's just go with Rock Paper, Scissors, Shoot.

[Taylor]

Superiors with. Oh, thank you.

[Will Compton]

Beat the fart out of me, man.

[Taylor]

Superior.

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[Taylor]

Number 10. Miami at Texas A and M. A and m is favored minus three and a half. Total points in the game is 49 and a half points.

[Josh Pate]

Imagine being at both of these games.

[Taylor]

Which we will be.

[Josh Pate]

Yes, we will.

[Will Compton]

You guys have fun.

[Taylor]

Man, I keep forgetting that you're not. Yeah, I love my family.

[Will Compton]

I know. I have a couple masters.

[Taylor]

SEC bias. Yeah. This is a great opportunity for you to be like, I'm not going to these.

[Josh Pate]

This game's in South Bend, Indiana. This game's in South Bend, Indiana.

[Will Compton]

Miami A M. Neither of these teams deserve to be in. Notre Dame should be playing in this football game.

[Taylor]

A M lost one one game to Texas at the end of the year.

[Will Compton]

Fraud alert.

[Josh Pate]

Fraud alert. Clump. I'm pushing my heart out back. I'm gonna text you.

[Taylor]

You do have a hard out. Do you need to go?

[Josh Pate]

The hard out is not hard enough to where I can't change it.

[Taylor]

Gotcha.

[Josh Pate]

So let's just continue. Yeah, I just once we talked Deep State College.

[Will Compton]

That hard out.

[Josh Pate]

Didn't think I was. Had to move my hard out back. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I don't have a big feel. I lean again in this first round, especially between the games with Oklahoma, Alabama, I lean in favor of the team that's playing at home. So I'm rolling Texas A and M in this situation. But I'll be. I mean, Miami has weapons. They have the defensive line. They can get after the quarterback.

[Taylor]

So does Texas A and M. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

So does A and M. So does A.

[Taylor]

And Miami wants to run the ball. Miami does a great job against the run. Which quarterback's going to show up? Which version of which quarterback's going to show up? Marcel Reed, who do you have? Honestly, I go back and forth. I literally did not make a decision until I sat in this chair. And as I'm even speaking right now, I don't really have a decision. A piece of me wants to go Miami.

[Will Compton]

Now.

[Taylor]

The bias in me of not having a whole lot of respect for the ACC right now is really infiltrating my brain because I'm sitting here with the sec. It's like, yeah, people want to handle Texas A and M because their schedule is really shitty, but it's still the sec and it's a lot faster pace. It's Caulfield, it's. I mean, that's the Colt. Wait, what?

[Josh Pate]

He doesn't think that you said that. He thinks that that was planted in you by the deep state. It's still the sec.

[Will Compton]

Just looks over at Gary like, because it's the sec.

[Taylor]

It is the sec. And it's like, there's a piece of me living in Nashville for a long enough time. It's like, yeah, that shit is pretty fast. They do operate a little differently. Those defensive ends can really get after that defense flies around. Marshall Reed can use his legs.

[Will Compton]

What?

[Josh Pate]

We, We. We play some good ball down here. I'm just waiting for we to come out of your mouth. That's when it's done.

[Taylor]

It is not we.

[Josh Pate]

It's not we.

[Taylor]

It is not.

[Josh Pate]

Still, they.

[Taylor]

They do a great job playing football down here.

[Josh Pate]

South.

[Taylor]

Down south. All right. They do a great job, but, I mean, Miami's done a really good job against mobile quarterbacks all year long.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, yeah, tell me about it.

[Taylor]

I know. I've literally watched that. I got that information from your prediction show on YouTube.

[Will Compton]

That's your information.

[Taylor]

I'm just relaying it out here right now. What did you mean, tell me about it? Like you fucking said it.

[Will Compton]

He stares you right in the face like he's telling you something. He's like, yeah, I was right. I was watching you.

[Josh Pate]

Don't ever doubt how much I love you because you have no idea how many times this year I've sat here and watched you have the audacity to look me in my eyes and cite direct statistics off of my show.

[Taylor]

I almost hit you with 48 total yards of dual threat quarterbacks and I.

[Josh Pate]

Don'T even break a smile. I just nod. That's great information, man. That's awesome.

[Taylor]

That's beautiful.

[Josh Pate]

Wow.

[Taylor]

I mean, you got to say it once. Let me get to say it.

[Josh Pate]

Who were they? They were Byron Brown at usf. It was the kid at Virginia Tech. It was kid in Florida, DJ Lagway. They played him. They played Kyron Drones was at Virginia tech. They played two more Jennings, Kevin Jennings at SMU. So they played five mobile quarterbacks this year. The mobile QBs had 74 combined rushing yards against them. So I don't necessarily know this just kind of segue to my pick. I just don't know if Marcel Reed's getting It done with his legs. Which means if they shut down A and M's ground game, it's Marcel Reid throwing the ball. Three multi int games in his final five. So he kind of tailed off. He kind of tailed off a little bit. That's what makes you nervous. But on the flip side, okay, well, Miami didn't really run the ball to the degree I thought they would this year to begin with. They're in the 70s in rushing numbers and A and M will shut you down running the ball too. But the difference is A and M has the number one sack rate in the country with home field at their back on third down. And so I ultimately think it's a Carson bet game. It's a Marcel Reed game and whoever can get the job done on third down without turning the ball over three times is the winner. And if that's your prediction, that's where I'm going. You're nodding your head. I assume you kind of sort of agree with that. It's a really high variance crapshoot of a game. So I just took the home field team that I think may be able to run the ball more consistently, but I have no strong field. So I'm taking A and M minus the points. I have no strong feel in this game.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I'll take Miami. I'll take Miami. Miami plus 3 1/2 ACC bias. Show me something. This is the last time I'm going to believe in them.

[Josh Pate]

This is it.

[Taylor]

This is it, man.

[Will Compton]

This is the last time I'm going.

[Josh Pate]

To believe in them.

[Taylor]

The last time I'm going to believe in Miami.

[Will Compton]

This is it.

[Josh Pate]

You don't win a playoff game on the road as three and a half point dog, you're dead to me.

[Taylor]

Nope. Yep. 100%. Yes.

[Josh Pate]

That's tough. That's where I stand. Improved every year down there.

[Will Compton]

Don't let Miami get blown out.

[Josh Pate]

Don't let him lose.

[Will Compton]

Don't let Miami get blown out.

[Taylor]

That would be a lot of what you would think is a lot of armor or ammo. Yeah, but it still wouldn't matter. They could lose this game by 21 points, dude. They still deserve being over over Notre Dame.

[Will Compton]

That's your opinion.

[Taylor]

What's your. Is your.

[Josh Pate]

I told you. My opinion is we're about to talk about some games that are even more extreme, like jmu, Tulane. My opinion wouldn't even change on who should or shouldn't have made the playoff if one of those teams wins outright. I don't base my opinion whatsoever on what the outcomes of the Games are. I look at your body of work and I decide should you or should you not be in the playoff? But like, so we disagree on Alabama. I think they should have been in, you don't think they should have been in. But either way you think to me, you should etch your opinion in stone before the playoff games start. Because if it's not, that's like if you, if you call a play on fourth and goal on the five yard line, if you're a coordinator, once you call the play and it's in and the play starts, there's nothing you can change. So it's ludicrous for a fan to get to watch the play to see if it works out before they decide if it was a good call or not. And I think selecting the playoff field is the same thing. You think what you want about the committee. Put yourself on the committee. Make yourself the committee. How are you choosing the playoff field? You're not choosing it based on how you think the playoffs should go or that's not how you should be choosing it. You're choosing it on comparable body of work or comparative body of work. And you're trying to get the proper 12 teams in. I don't say the best 12 because that's not how we currently decide the playoff. Or else two G5 teams wouldn't be in. So I think Miami should be in no matter what they do. They could win or lose by 30. Same thing with Bama. But I, I don't think, or let me rephrase. I don't like that the structure allows two G5 teams to get in, but even if they lose by 50 or pull an upset outright, I would still feel the same way. So I don't care about the results as it relates to who should or shouldn't have made it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, it's more of the chaos that gets to ensue on Twitter, which is what I'm excited about.

[Josh Pate]

If you want to see chaos, let that two lane Ole Miss game be close in the fourth quarter. That's when the chaos would ensue. You would. You would see more bad faith arguments than you've ever seen in your life. You would see more people pulling old takes up of you, you, me talking about the G5. And they would say, what now? That's why I already.

[Taylor]

Fuck you. That's what's now.

[Josh Pate]

You just gotta have it in drafts. You just gotta have it ready to go.

[Taylor]

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[Taylor]

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[Josh Pate]

It'll be bad.

[Taylor]

Just send it out there.

[Will Compton]

Does Tulane have a shot against Ole Miss?

[Josh Pate]

Sure.

[Will Compton]

Said sure.

[Josh Pate]

Sure.

[Will Compton]

Spread on that game is Ole miss favored by 17 and a half. Not a big shot over under 56 and a half.

[Josh Pate]

This game happened already. Blowout earlier in the year. What was it? 45 to 10? It already happened in Oxford. That was a Lane Kiffin led Ole Miss team. All right, so when I break these games, it doesn't make much sense for us to just like make the case for who's going to win the game. Ole Miss is a huge favorite. The way I like to look at these games is is there a shot the upset could happen? I think there's a small shot here. I don't think JMU has any shot. I think Tulane's got a Small shot. They got better athletes than JMU does. So at least you, you know, you got the regionality aspect. You got coaching churn at Ole Miss. When this game happened earlier in the year, Ole Miss got up quick 233 at the half and Tulane had to throw their game script in the garbage and they just had to try and throw to keep up. So if they could have something better than 4 of 18 on third and fourth downs, if they're able to force a turnover. Trinidad Chambliss has not had a multi int game this year. If that were to happen, I don't know like turnover, special team stuff. If you were to be able to pop them early and make it a four quarter game, yeah, I guess anything could happen. Outside of that though. No. I think Ole Miss is favorite, favored big for a reason. I'm taking them to winning cover actually because this is, if you think about the point spread here, sometimes in college football in the season when you have these big point spreads, it means you don't have the favorites full attention. Sometimes it's a let down spot, sometimes it's a look ahead spot. This is one of the only spots in college football where you have these big spreads. But you also know the favorite has 100% of their attention on the opposition. So you get the full weight of that team, whatever it is, whether it's Oregon or whether it's Ole Miss. And that means they, they don't stop, they don't let up. What they try and do is get out of the gate extremely fast and be up 35 to 10 so that they can coast in the second half. That's what their goal would be. I'm going to take them to winning cover because I think all the motivation is there and you got a coaching staff trying to prove themselves. Like people are asking, oh, what are they going to be without Lane Kiffin? They didn't name an interim at Ole Miss. This is Pete Golding's team. Like he's, he is getting his staff in place. They're trying to prove that they're of the caliber that you need to be to be an SEC staff. So.

[Will Compton]

And it seems like the roster's behind it too. That's what I'm excited about.

[Josh Pate]

So I like him to win and cover.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I mean I'm taking Ole Miss like I've been having this stance against the G5. This is like it's a predator. It's a predator, just throw out the bait type of situation. When I'm looking at These, the Power 4 games we have with Oregon and James Madison, also Ole Miss and Tulane. Like, I'm taking Ole Miss. They're at home. They've already beat him before. Golding, right? Yeah, Golding him. Seeing him having this team and going out to prove something with Lane gone and all the little things that you see from the players sitting on the outside of it after all this Lane Kiffin stuff unfolded and seeing the excitement, they have to rally. Rally the staff. I'm fired up to see Ole Miss. I think they could make some noise depending on how. How big they went in this game. But I think you can sit there and look at Ole Miss facing Georgia in a rematch. And I'm hoping to come out of. Watching this game against Tulane is like excitement on. Yeah. What is going to happen when they play Georgia again? Because right now it's like, okay, whoever wins this game, Ole Miss is going to be Tulane. You're just assuming that Georgia is going to win that game outright. But if they come out with some fireworks, I would be. I'll be fired up for that game against Georgia.

[Taylor]

Yeah. It was one of the most. That game was one of the most fun games to watch all season. Was that Ole Miss, Georgie.

[Josh Pate]

Ole Miss up two possessions in Athens and still lost. Still lost in the fourth quarter.

[Taylor]

I don't have a whole lot to say about this game. Shocker. Ole Miss win and cover.

[Josh Pate]

Yep.

[Taylor]

Oregon win and cover.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, two for here, two for.

[Taylor]

This is a two for one special.

[Josh Pate]

Wow, you got harder.

[Taylor]

If James Madison wins this game, somehow I will donate money to their nil fund.

[Josh Pate]

How much?

[Taylor]

I don't know. Name a number.

[Josh Pate]

Million dollars?

[Taylor]

No, sure.

[Will Compton]

You'll donate $100,000.

[Taylor]

Cut it in half. 50. Cut in half. Call it 50.

[Will Compton]

I'm just saying, whatever it is, just be like, hey, yeah, okay.

[Taylor]

I'll donate $50,000 to either. To Lane or James Madison if they can be either of these teams straight up. And I will go and I'll dress up in the entire mascot outfit and sit on their diag and I will apologize to every student that walks by me for the greater part of a day.

[Will Compton]

Will you shave your head, too?

[Taylor]

Sure, I'll shave my head. What else?

[Josh Pate]

I know what you're promising to do.

[Taylor]

I'll get a nose piercing. Like, what do you. What do we. What other things?

[Will Compton]

Oh, I don't know. I'm just. I'm just like. If I'm sitting there excited, seeing Too late potentially upset Ole Miss, I've still.

[Taylor]

On this G5 thing for a minute now. It's like, okay, now's judgment day. I feel more confident than ever that these teams will not win. So it's like, yeah, you can put anything you want up there. It's. It's. That's what's gonna happen. So I got both those.

[Josh Pate]

So you're gonna dress as these mascots. One of them is just a Wave.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

The other one's a Duke.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Don't know what, what the other one is. I guess you could throw on the little Green wave outfit.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

But 50k. And then if they both win, you're stroking a hundred thousand dollar combined check.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Summerall's doing that, by the way. And he donated a hundred thousand to Lane on his way out, which that is.

[Taylor]

You don't like that, bro?

[Josh Pate]

I just.

[Taylor]

He said, my wife and I, we already talked about it.

[Will Compton]

He ain't doing that. If he's leaving, he's like, leaving anywhere.

[Josh Pate]

Did Lane donate the Power 4 school on his way out?

[Taylor]

You know, Lane just. He operates on his own accord.

[Will Compton]

No coach in there, like, yeah, I kind of feel bad that I'm leaving him. That's the type of team that's going to Ole Miss this weekend.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Broken.

[Josh Pate]

They're.

[Taylor]

They're going to be so jacked up for the first three minutes of that game, and then it's going to be over. And I'll sit there and be like, yeah, I told you guys didn't deserve to be here. You didn't deserve it.

[Josh Pate]

But your problem is with the system, not with the teams.

[Taylor]

My problem is. No. Yes, yes. My problem is with the system. Like, if a G5 team, like we talked about 12 and. Oh. Blowing teams out. Yeah. Throw their asses in there, that'd be awesome to see. These guys don't deserve to be in sad. Onward.

[Josh Pate]

You know. You know when in Jurassic park the water starts to ripple? Yep. And that's when the T. Rex is approaching. But, you know, if you fast forward. We spoke about this earlier this week. When you fast forward a little bit, there's another scene in Jurassic park where all of a sudden you look up through the Ford Explorer sunroof and it's raining and it's dark. But all of a sudden, that T. Rex's head first rises up above the canopy of trees and. And it throws that little goat in the back of its mouth and it just crunches down.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

That brings us to the JMU Oregon preview. I think this is going to be bad. I think it's going to be really Bad.

[Taylor]

I hope so.

[Josh Pate]

Like, paint the walls with their blood splattering. Sarah McLachlan special. Scorched earth.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Dan Lanning is using you as a tune up for Texas Tech. Bad. So I think I'm going to take Oregon to winning cover.

[Will Compton]

I'm with you. Just another movie analogy. This is like when in Gladiator where they just throw unarmed prisoners out in the Coliseum, where the outcome's already decided before the gates even open. This is just for entertainment, more than it is about competition.

[Josh Pate]

And you're standing there on the field in Austin and that crowd is chanting, kill, kill, kill.

[Taylor]

And Dan Lanning sits there and goes.

[Will Compton]

And they kill him and they kill him.

[Taylor]

And then they die.

[Will Compton]

And then we all just tweet. Are we happy with all that? Are we happy with what we just saw? Do we feel good?

[Taylor]

Yeah. And this close to Christmas, too. Yeah. It's unfair.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, and then your coach leaves.

[Taylor]

Yeah, that was pretty rough. You guys played terrible. I'm out of here. None of you coming with me.

[Josh Pate]

Good luck to you guys.

[Will Compton]

So now this will be an ass beating that we just. We feel uncomfortable watching.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Turn off at halftime.

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[Josh Pate]

It makes you move around in your seat a little bit.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Maybe I went a little too far with this one is what you start to think.

[Taylor]

So we feel good. So you're also on Oregon. That went in cover.

[Will Compton]

Oh, absolutely.

[Josh Pate]

All right. Which gets us one step closer to Oregon. Indiana rematch. We would just be one round away from Oregon. Indiana rematch. At which point there's no way Landon can afford to watch that show. There's no way that he can afford to watch you reveal the text that I know you'll get that week?

[Taylor]

Who's to say he hasn't got it already?

[Will Compton]

Who's to say I haven't been talking to big Natty this whole time?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. You may not be the only one that's been talking to him. Knowing him like I think I do. Dirty guy. Dirty guy. My dad spots dirty players. I spot dirty coaches. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

So we're already calling. You're already saying it doesn't matter who get. We're saying it doesn't matter who gets to the next round. Texas Tech's going to be out one of the SEC teams between Oklahoma and Alabama.

[Josh Pate]

Do you think that Oklahoma or Alabama would have a better shot against Indiana? Which is just a mind boggling sentence, but which one do you think would have a better shot? I got a theory on that.

[Will Compton]

I would say Oklahoma. Oklahoma.

[Josh Pate]

I think Alabama would have a better shot because Oklahoma is So offensively limited. If Alabama is playing Indiana, it's because Alabama's offense was good enough to go into Norman and win. Which means obviously the offense sort of bottomed out and bounced back a little bit. And if you then you get them on a neutral field, you give them nine more days to heal up, maybe you get LT Overton back in conjunction with these offensive players. I just think Alabama's offense at its best is way more dynamic and contest your corners also a little bit. That's being glossed over. We're not breaking down Indiana, but they lost one of their best defensive players for the year in the Big Ten championship. No, that's, that's not really being talked about a lot.

[Taylor]

Yeah, him high five and those guys. That was just a, a freak accident.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, just celebrating with the celebrating shift.

[Taylor]

Got the shirt on and they're like, yeah, get the cart. What happened? He just jumped in the air and i5 to Kid and his knee buckled.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah. It's brutal, man.

[Will Compton]

I'm more thinking of like a grittier game like let's say Jon Matier's healthier and that does make a difference because we all again got to see him before he had that injury. Then I just look at more of like the two other phases of the game being defensive special teams. And I think if you're going to compete against obviously Indiana is going to not have their best defensive player. But the way you kind of watch that Ohio State Indiana game unfold, if I'm picturing that for the game against whoever be Alabama or Oklahoma, I feel like Oklahoma would just be better suited because they have defense to match their defense. They have special teams where you can play the field position game. And then again you're just, you're more hopeful that a healthier John material like just somebody's going to make a play offensively. If it's not, you know, a defensive turnover and score.

[Josh Pate]

Playoffs are here.

[Will Compton]

Playoffs are here, boys. Hey, thanks for tuning in. Great show.

[Taylor]

Great show.

[Will Compton]

Great show. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Don't forget to leave comments. Don't forget to make sure you are subscribed. We will see you. You boys will see everybody this weekend at the two games.

[Josh Pate]

We will.

[Will Compton]

And on this show we will see you next week. Thank you.

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[Josh Pate]

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