Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff Quarterfinal Games W/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys

Episode: Josh Pate Picks College Football Playoff Quarterfinal Games w/ Will Compton And Taylor Lewan

Date: December 30, 2025

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Overview

In this highly anticipated College Football Playoff (CFP) quarterfinals episode, hosts Will Compton and Taylor Lewan bring on college football analyst Josh Pate to break down the playoff matchups: Oregon vs. Texas Tech, Alabama vs. Indiana, Ole Miss vs. Georgia, and Miami vs. Ohio State. The discussion is a lively mix of deep football analysis, insider perspectives on coaching rumors, postseason player legacies, betting picks, and plenty of banter, as the boys compare notes on records, prop bets, and their affection for certain teams and coaches.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. College Football Playoff Quarterfinals Breakdown

Separation in the Standings

• The episode starts with the hosts reviewing their pick records, noting how close they all are to finishing above .500 for the season.
• Josh Pate notes his "Ramen Noodle Express" betting picks are above .500:
  "77 and 70, which is not like, crush it, quit your second job-style, winning percentage. But it's a winning percentage." (05:04, Pate)

On Holiday Gifts & Show Banter (Light Moment)

• The boys joke about what Josh Pate wants for Christmas, landing on cozy clothing and friendship over material gifts:
  "No man is a failure who has friends. I have friends. I have everything I need for Christmas." (06:43, Pate)

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2. Michigan Coaching & Rumors (07:21–17:24)

The Kyle Whittingham Hire

• Extensive debate about Michigan's coaching change, with optimism around Kyle Whittingham’s “solid football culture.”
  "He's just a football guy. Occasional motorcycle ride during the lunch break, hit a steak at 4pm at his desk, back to football." (08:13, Pate)

• Speculation on Whittingham’s tenure leads to discussion about program stability vs. long-term splash hires.

Coaching Carousel Insider Story—Production Meeting

• The boys reveal a “behind-the-scenes” story where a Michigan head coach change was tipped in a production meeting, impressing even ESPN’s Mike Greenberg: "If I could have had like surveillance video of that production meeting...we could sell that." (14:09, Pate)

On Rumors and Sourcing

• Josh dismisses the Kalen DeBoer-to-Bama leaving rumors, emphasizing journalistic standards: "I talked to Kalen today. He's never lied to me in his life. So that's my source." (17:03, Pate)

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3. CFP Quarterfinal Game Breakdowns

A. Rose Bowl: Alabama vs. Indiana

[24:42–43:03, Main analysis]

• Line & Model: Indiana favored by 7.5; Josh’s model has Indiana -3.5

• Key angles:

  • Alabama’s health, Ty Simpson’s performance, Indiana’s zone-pressure defense.
  • Indiana’s star DL Steven Daly is out, creating concern for their defense.

• Bold Prediction:
  "Alabama's going to win this game outright, so I'll take the points, especially if you're giving me seven and a half." (33:53, Pate)

• Host Reactions:

  • Taylor and Will each play up the tension with indecision, but ultimately most lean Bama covering, though Indiana might win.
  • Ty Simpson’s “wolf mode” persona and callouts referenced.

Notable Quote:
"If Bama's going to win, it's going to be a Ty Simpson legacy game." (29:59, Will)

B. Sugar Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Georgia

[43:09–51:20, Main analysis]

• Line: Georgia favored by 6.5

• Key angles:

  • Previous high-scoring meeting; Georgia’s defense improvement.
  • Trinidad Chambliss regarded as the most dangerous QB in the playoff.
  • Trust in Kirby Smart’s preparation and high-leverage experience.
  • Potential emotional impact revisiting New Orleans after last year’s Sugar Bowl and personal events for Kirby Smart’s family.

• Predictions:

  • Josh Pate prefers the over 55.5 points but would also lay the points with Georgia.
  • Taylor and Will also lean Georgia; Taylor notes “this spot is part of the process” for the Bulldogs.

Notable Quote:
"I always just blindly trust Kirby in these spots." (45:46, Pate)

C. Orange Bowl: Oregon vs. Texas Tech

[55:04–68:08, Main analysis]

• Line: Oregon favored by 2.5

• Narratives:

  • Portal spending "arms race" (both teams accused of buying their teams).
  • Oregon’s season defined by their prior playoff loss to Ohio State—mental edge.
  • Texas Tech’s “Joey McGuire Heel Turn” (jokingly presented as a villain via a fake letter).

• Analysis:

  • Oregon’s run offense vs. Texas Tech’s top-ranked run defense.
  • Pate's strongest bet: Oregon over 144.5 rushing yards (biggest wager of his playoffs).
  • All three ultimately back Oregon—big.

Notable Quotes:

• "This is where their season is supposed to start. ...Dan Lanning waking up in a cold sweat over and over at least once a week throughout this entire year." (58:06, Will)
• "If they can do that, they have full balance and they'll be able to operate offensively and they'll put Texas Tech in the spot no one else has." (65:02, Pate)

D. Cotton Bowl: Miami vs. Ohio State (True Classic game of the week)

[72:38–87:56, Main analysis]

• Line: Ohio State favored by 9.5
• Key angles:
  • Miami’s D-line/secondary vs. Ohio State’s young but talented offense.
  • Julian Sayin throwing to “aliens” (Jeremiah Smith, Carnell Tate).
  • Ryan Day calling plays for OSU; Brian Hartline’s situation.
  • Will and Taylor both pick Ohio State to win big, Pate expects a closer game, pointing to Miami’s edge in the trenches but backs Ohio State outright.

Notable Quotes:

• "There's no team that physically looks like Miami. Doesn't mean they'll win the game though. They're a nine and a half point dog for a reason." (75:27, Pate)
• "I think Ohio State is going to blow them up." (79:25, Will)

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4. Broader College Football Discussion

Conference Supremacy & Out-of-Conference Matchups

• Pate notes the potential for the Big Ten to be overrated if their teams underperform in the playoffs due to lack of cross-conference play: "In the SEC and the ACC, we've got a ton of examples of out-of-conference play... Big Ten and Big 12, there's not a lot of that." (88:28, Pate)

Betting Props & Philosophies

• Several props and model lines are thrown in:
  • Josh is bullish on Oregon’s over in rushing yards.
  • The team debates Miami's team total over/under (15.5).
  • Will jokes about moving Oregon to -9.5 for a big alternate line bet.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Quote | Speaker | Timestamp | |-------|---------|-----------| | "Alabama's going to win this game outright, so I'll take the points..." | Josh Pate | 33:53 | | "If Bama's going to win, it's going to be a Ty Simpson legacy game." | Will Compton | 29:59 | | "I always just blindly trust Kirby in these spots." | Josh Pate | 45:46 | | "This is where their season is supposed to start. ...Dan Lanning waking up in a cold sweat over and over..." | Will Compton | 58:06 | | "There's no team that physically looks like Miami. Doesn't mean they'll win the game though." | Josh Pate | 75:27 | | "I think Ohio State is going to blow them up." | Will Compton | 79:25 |

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Important Timestamps

• 07:21–17:24: Michigan coaching search & inside production meeting story
• 24:42: Start of Alabama vs. Indiana breakdown (Rose Bowl)
• 43:09: Sugar Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Georgia
• 55:04: Orange Bowl: Oregon vs. Texas Tech
• 72:38: Cotton Bowl: Miami vs. Ohio State

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Tone & Style

The conversation is smart, irreverent, and loaded with both inside jokes and substantive football insights. They openly tease each other's picks and biases, cite direct text exchanges with coaches, and don't hesitate to call each other out on previous predictions.

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Summary (For the Uninitiated)

If you missed the episode, you get a format-defining, football-rich, and personality-driven breakdown of the 2025 College Football Playoff quarterfinals. The hosts and guest deeply dissect each matchup—analyzing team health, coaching edges, player legacies, and betting lines—while providing plenty of locker-room banter, stories from inside the football world, and strong opinions on where to put your (theoretical) money.

Key takeaways: Josh Pate is bullish on Alabama and Oregon, leans Georgia, and thinks Ohio State-Miami will be closer than the spread suggests. Will and Taylor lean more conservative—trusting Kirby, believing in Ohio State’s talent, and wary of Alabama’s ability to finish—but all agree: the quarterfinals bring separation season.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to another episode of the Locker Room. I'm Will Compton. We got Josh Fate, Tara Lawan. It is college football quarterfinals week. We got Oregon, Texas Tech, Bama, Indiana, Ole Miss, Georgia, Miami, Ohio State. Here are the standings on the year. Taylor, real close to get up to the 500 level. Josh a game behind. I'm three games behind. We are happy you're here. If you're watching right now, please make sure you subscribe. If you're listening on audio, please make sure you're following our channels. Let's have an incredible show and let's talk some of football.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

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[A]

Happy holidays.

[D]

Happy holidays.

[B]

Merry Christmas.

[D]

Merry Christmas indeed.

[A]

And we were talking about separation Jews.

[D]

Lying the same on that one, huh?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he said it with some. Some.

[D]

He said it like he. He was telling more than just a. More than just us.

[B]

Some people will walk up to the line, some people will go over the line. Yeah, I'm an over the line guy.

[A]

That was more so saying happy holidays like we're past Christmas. New Year's is coming up. Let's combine them together. You were speaking of separation. I mean, it essentially is like we're getting into the new year.

[B]

Could I present an alternate theory? I don't think we're going to separate. I think we're together. I think we're together through the duration.

[D]

I agree. 20, 26, we're all together. But as far as this record goes, the fact that you're even saying we're going to stay together is the first domino piece to fall for us finally to separate one way or the other.

[A]

But we could be together on these games.

[D]

You think so?

[B]

I mean, we got six picks left, right? Four plus two plus one is seven. Yeah. So how much separation could happen?

[D]

Yeah, seven games.

[B]

How much separation? I was talking to you about some pretty wild prop bets. If we allow prop bets in this thing, then it's total wild card round.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But if we don't, because it would be unethical, I don't really think we're going to separate all that much. And to be honest, that's probably good news for me. Cause I'm 39 and 43 and you'll take that. Yeah. Kids have screwed up a lot for me this year. I'm below 500.

[A]

How's the ramen Noodle Express doing?

[B]

Ramen Noodle Express is above 500. Ramen Noodle Express is 77 and 70, which is not like, crush it, quit your second job style, winning percentage. But it's. It's a winning percentage.

[A]

It's kind of like you had a wash of a season, but you. You did gain. You did win some money.

[B]

Yeah. We ended better than we started. Yes.

[A]

You were able to get a few Powerball tickets.

[B]

Mm. Yeah. Some scratch offs. I would never send Meemaw cigarettes back home because Meemaw never smoked, but I could send the fam some things back home with our winnings this year, depending on what your size of your unit is. And, you know, to each his own when it comes to how big your unit is. Yeah.

[A]

I'm very. I'm curious, which I'm sure the entire audience is. What is somebody. What is Josh pay? What's a guy like Josh Pate get for Christmas?

[B]

I got.

[D]

Should we guess first?

[B]

Yeah, that'd probably be.

[A]

When he walked in with that. When he walked in with that Q zip, I was thinking, was that a Christmas gift?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Was it?

[B]

I think it was, yeah.

[D]

So after all the Q zip talk from Oklahoma, you get a Q zip for Christmas, and you got a Q zip for Christmas. What side of the fence are you guys playing on? Let's go over the fence.

[B]

What color was it, though?

[A]

I got this hoodie, the Q zip.

[D]

That I dealt with.

[B]

I got a black Q zip.

[D]

That's fair.

[B]

That's a good question.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It had no OU logo on it. It was not crimson. It was not cream. It was black.

[A]

I got this hoodie for Christmas.

[D]

You strike me as a guy that you're watching. Wife looks at you and she's like, hey, what do you want for Christmas? And you tell her, I don't want anything. I want nothing for Christmas.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Is that correct?

[B]

Unequivocally, yes.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm not lying. It's not the reverse psychology thing. I want nothing for Christmas. Christmas morning, congrats, babe. You got nothing but a smile. And I'm really in my feelings about it. That's okay.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

That's okay. No man is a failure who has friends. I have friends. I have everything I need for Christmas.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You sell my hoodie.

[D]

Is that Chris's gift?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Are those pants also? Those pants look new.

[A]

No, no, no, no. I've been rocking these. These are the These are the green jar.

[D]

Maybe just they've been through. Through the wash because they don't look like they've been worn hardly at all. Those are the green ones. Every time I see you wear them, I go, hey, where'd you get those?

[A]

You're like, green.

[D]

Yeah. Green. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Those are special pants.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Those aren't October pants. Those are. Those are Christmas pants.

[D]

Those are.

[A]

They're comfy.

[D]

You look cozy.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

Extremely.

[A]

I feel cozy.

[D]

Can I ask you this, pivoting to some more football stuff, what's your opinion of Kyle Whittingham?

[B]

I think you ended up.

[D]

That was him right there. Give me a second.

[B]

What does he say?

[D]

Oh, no, it's John o'. Rahav. He helped me win three fantasy championships in a row. Statistically, our chance of winning three fantasy championships was.058%. It was a 1 in 1728 chance. So that's history. We can talk about that in the NFL show. What's your opinion of Kyle Whittingham?

[A]

Do you have an opinion that's different than everybody else's?

[B]

Everybody else is pretty high on it, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'm pretty high on it. I think you're better than you were two months ago. So you upgraded. Doesn't it feel like. Doesn't it feel like the stuff that if you and I would have talked about Michigan in the second week of October, the stuff that you would have begrudgingly said to me off camera about the overall state of the program? Everyone's just freely saying in the open now that you hired Cal Whittingham. Good. We're injecting solid football culture back into the building. Good. We were reliable. We're stable. Good. No one's whispering. No one's hesitant to walk around corners in the building. That's Kyle Whittingham. Yeah, Kyle Whittingham. Just a football guy. Occasional motorcycle ride during the lunch break, hit a steak at 4pm at his desk. Back to football. Yeah.

[D]

Solid weight room guy. Loves to get in the gym a little bit. But you're absolutely right. All the whisperings, people behind closed doors, the losers mentality, talking in small groups kind of talk a little bit of shit. All that is now out in the open for everybody to see. And yeah, I think. No disrespect, but two weeks ago, I think Michigan got better from a football. From a football standpoint, coaching standpoint, and now knowing where we're headed because Kyle Whittingham wasn't like the sexiest name in the world, I didn't know a whole lot about him or about Utah since he's been hired. I've just been on the message boards, just a search bar on Twitter, Michigan football Kyle Whittingham. And just I'm only seeing Utah and Michigan fans come together over it. It's very odd. I'm seeing USC fans be like, hey, that's a hell of a coach Notre Dame fan. Like people all over the place are like, this is a great ball coach and Michigan's a whole lot better. So it fires me up. I'm cautiously optimistic. I was trying to talk to anybody that would listen yesterday about it, but it's really like January 2nd. If we can keep this roster intact and add a couple players, might be in some futures bets next year.

[B]

One question. So it's as we're recording, it's Tuesday, December, let's call it January 1, 2026. Let's just pretend it's New Year's Day, which it will be in 48 hours. New Year's Day, 2031. Is he the head coach at Michigan five years?

[D]

Probably not. Probably 2032, 2031. Because he's got a five year contract, he's as old as he is. But I think it's about stabilizing, maximizing the potential of Michigan, what it is. And then once he rides off in the sunset, it's bringing it to where we get the best guy available again. But this is, I think, the biggest knock on Kyle Whittingham is his age. He says he want to get out last year, but this team went 5 and 7 or whatever their record was. They go through the portal, they go 10 and two. He feels a whole lot better about it. I personally believe there was the private equity thing going on. He might have got pushed a little bit. He's a guy that would never say that. And that's why you love me more for it. But five years from now, I think he maximizes this and he rides off the sunset, leaving the program much better off than Sheron Moore did. And I think that's a massive positive because you get a guy in waiting, you groom a person, D.C. or O.C. or you know who the next best guy is. And now Michigan's playing a couple of chess pieces ahead of everybody else. Similar to when we talked to Ed Ogeron and he's getting the third party phone call, going to a gas station, someone's like, hey, you're going to be the next head football coach. Michigan. Get to that point. It seemed like for the last two weeks Michigan was In a situation where they find out about the Sharon stuff and then they're scrambling to find who the new guy is, there's a bunch of names being thrown around and they landed. They fell forward, which is amazing. That's. So that's my thought in the next five years.

[A]

Did you have any. When the announcement first happened, you didn't know anything about Kyle Whittingham?

[D]

I knew that he did.

[A]

You have like sadness since it wasn't your guy, Biff?

[D]

No, because to me, at first I was like, I just need to know who this guy is. Because when it comes to Michigan, where I'm kind of at with my fandom is whoever's going to be sitting in that seat, I'm going to support 100%. So whether it was Biff, Kenny, Kalyn DeBoer, the kind of three names are really popping around. Last week I was, yeah, I was fully ready to support them. Once his name gets named as the head coach for Michigan, I just think. I know he wins a lot. I know he's been at a program for 21 years as a head coach and maybe nine years before that as like an assistant coach. He's won multiple Pac12 championships. It's a school like Utah where no disrespect to them, but they not. They don't have the resources to be a top 15, like school football team year in and year out, however they are. And that's leadership and stability. And I'm like, oh, this is a guy that absolutely is everything that Michigan needs right now. So that like within an hour of him being named as the head coach, reading about him like, oh, I'm all about this. I actually texted Biff and I was like, what do you think this is? After he met him and he's like, this guy is exactly what we need. The kids already respect him. I think he's the perfect fit for Michigan. So even Biff is like, yeah, this should be the guy.

[B]

Hmm. Would you like to tell a very, very brief 50 second to one minute behind the scenes story that illustrates the. This thing you did. You did the air quotes when you said Michigan found out. Because really what you're talking about is there were whispers, there were some rumors. No one really knew. No one put the train cars together. There wasn't solid evidence of anything. But there were whispers throughout the season.

[D]

Yeah, whispers throughout the season. I think they.

[B]

Oh, I was saying I was gonna tell the story.

[D]

Oh, you tell us.

[B]

Yeah, I was gonna tell the story.

[D]

I thought you said you.

[B]

It's a story. That involves the three of us.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, so let's say about a month ago, probably maybe a month and a week ago, it was the first time I went to New York where you guys do get up and we walked into the production meeting, which you have at 6:00am Eastern time, and it's Mike Greenberg, head of the table. And you got some production folks, Hawks probably in there. You got us three Schefter's on the wall, Orlovsky's on the wall. They're on their way in. Like that's the production meeting setting. And we got through the whole thing. And then Greeny said, hey, what about this Michigan job opening? And he was saying, those rumors, aren't they? And we ended up just kind of laying out for him what the situation was. Like, wait, no, no, no. What happened was this is for the social edit later. So Greeny asked about the job openings. He was talking about Florida and he was talking about Auburn, he was talking about Penn State. And right before everyone gets up, someone in the room who shall remain nameless said, hey, watch Michigan. And then everyone settled back in their seat. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because Michigan's not open. This was before there was really a whiff of that publicly. And remember he said, michigan, Michigan's going to go like 8 and 4, 9, 3 Michigan's. They're getting ready for the Ohio State game. What are you talking about? And then everyone started to share sort of the rumors they had heard throughout the season. And the entire picture came together in that production meeting over like a five minute period. And Greeny's jaws just on the table. And then sure enough, a week later to the day, everything that we had said in that production meeting ended up happening in real life. With the only added caveat, I guess, that some stuff happened internally at Michigan that made it go public. There was a mechanism, there was an HR based mechanism, there was a legal based mechanism that made it all go public. And if I could have had like surveillance video, if we could have like a voyeuristic view of that production meeting, we just package that footage up. We could sell that. Yeah, crystal ball stone, we could sell that.

[D]

Because everything that happened, happened to a team.

[B]

Because here's what was beautiful. Greeny is, he's a college football guy, but he's much more pro sports guy. Yeah, so he is, he's in the weeds of the pro sports rumors and the free agency rumors and the coaching carousel in the NFL. And that's, that's nice and structured. When you come into the college football carousel world, it is a jungle with no parameters. It's like when a natural disaster moves through a town and everything just. The civil society breaks down and you just revert back to caveman law. That's kind of the way a college football coaching search and college football coaching rumors are. And we were watching him. Every time you said something, then I'd say something, then Will would say something, then Schefter would say something, then Orlofsky would say something, and everyone's kind of piecing together versions of what they've heard. We're all adding a rubber band onto the ball. And he's like, his mouth goes from this to this to this. And it was watching someone in real time get a sense of what it's like to live in the college football weeds instead of just to view them over in the ditch from the road. We pulled him in to the weeds.

[A]

I was going to say, I feel like we've brought some. Some more college football fascination to Greeny. Throughout the year, throughout the season, he's.

[D]

Always been kind of curious. And it really started, like, whatever was like, third week in September, and you came on and Greening was like, who's this Josh Pate guy? And then you did your segment via Zoom, and after you got off, it was like the commercial break. He's like, I think I like that Josh paid that. I think he seems like he knows what he's talking about. Oh, and we were obviously being giving you your flowers. Behind the scenes.

[A]

We're also shouting out our show.

[B]

I'm like.

[D]

And then every week, Greeny would get more and more enamored with Josh Payton, his takes and what's taking place in college football. And I think the Michigan, the Michigan situation broke it.

[B]

Broke his back, hooked him.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Between the weeks of the Michigan, LSU with Kiffin and Ole Miss and everything else, like, it's been prime time college football popularity as far as diving into all the weeds of everything that's going on.

[D]

Yeah. Do you think there was any validity to Caleb DeBoer leaving Alabama?

[B]

Nope.

[D]

Zero.

[B]

Nope.

[D]

Did you. Is this like, hey, we're going to talk about the outcome of the game after the game? This is what should have happened, or did you know this had zero validity?

[B]

I knew as far as I could know from talking to Kaylan several times through the process, it had zero validity.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[D]

That seems like a fair source.

[B]

You know, I don't want to traffic in unsubstantiated rumors. So in this new.

[A]

You can't do that in this new.

[B]

Journalism 2.0 world in whence we live, you just got to throw your sources out there. So everyone's like, well, how would you know that? I talked to Kalen today, man. That's kind of how I know what I know. You may have a better source than Kaylan DeBoer on this as it relates to where Kaylan DeBoer is going to go. I. I'm just going off what the guy tells me. He's never lied to me in his life. So that's my. That's where I'm sitting right now.

[A]

Because you also lied to us sitting up here talking about Marcus Freeman.

[B]

Yeah, man. I said, let's. Let's recap. I've got it right here. Recap. I think the Giants are going to target Marcus Freeman, and I think he will listen to them. The Giants have since targeted Marcus Freeman. He probably listened briefly and said, I'm staying at Notre Dame. Translation, you're a fraud. You lied to us.

[A]

He had somebody coming after him once.

[B]

You lied. And I clickbaited him. Not sure what I wanted him to click on, but I clickbaited him and I wanted. Here's the harshest allegation. This is really the only one I care about. I wanted to push Marcus Freeman to the NFL because you guys know how much I really traffic in the NFL. College football is a side job for me. I'm a big NFL guy.

[A]

You're the pipeline.

[B]

If I can have it my way, I just build this gigantic funnel, and then I toss everything that's good about college football into the funnel to hopefully get it to the NFL. Piss on college football. Who needs college football? I want all the prized commodities, the great coaches, I want them all to go to the NFL. I'm going to lose the players to the draft within four years. Let's get rid of the coaches, too. That's in my best interest. That's my business model, actually, to push all of the good coaches and to completely kneecap all the great programs by pushing their coaches to the NFL.

[D]

I'm glad you got that off your chest.

[B]

That's pate state material.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And also Lincoln Riley. This about him, too.

[B]

I'm not backing down on Lincoln Riley. That buzz was everywhere.

[D]

Buzz was there.

[B]

Buzz was there. Buzz is no longer there for this cycle, I would assume not. Like the only way that would happen and let me. Which let me look at my key shot. I haven't heard anything on this. Right. The only thing that would change. The only thing that would change that Is if. Which I haven't heard is the case. But if like he were to go the NFL route. I never hardly know about the NFL. The only reason I knew about the Giants is because everyone kind of knew. Yeah, the Giants are going to target Freeman. And that was the reports when it, when it happened. So yeah, other than that. But there was a lot of buzz about Lincoln Riley. Like I was not on an island, if you know who to listen to. I wasn't even the only one who said that. So either everyone lied, we kind of collaboratively lied about it, or no one really cares about doing that. And there was buzz about Lincoln Riley.

[A]

But you're the guy.

[D]

You are the guy.

[B]

Yeah, I'm the face of the guy.

[D]

Who to listen to. Like if I ever hear a rumor, I just call you because I don't know what's 42s.

[A]

We'll talk about all of these conversations. Whether we give surface level, whatever to the audience. We have all these conversations around the show. Like whether it's before the show. Be like, oh, snap, yaddy, Oh, I heard this. Blah, blah, blah. We'll talk about it after the show. But Josh, whether Josh says says something, we'll just have this. Oh yeah. Which just feeds it even more.

[C]

He lied because everybody else had the.

[A]

Same reaction as us.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

When you told us post show, I think that was the most mind blowing concept we've ever heard. Yeah. There's no. Why would he. There's no way. Just keep your eye on it. Keep your eye on it. Froze a grenade in the middle of our show.

[B]

Yeah. Blew up.

[D]

Nobody was in the room. Nothing happened. Yeah. He had to put it back for a second. Should we get in the games?

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

Let's have some fun.

[D]

All right. First game, dan Lanning, Joey McGuire.

[B]

Starting here.

[D]

Start. Do you want. Okay. Do you want to go somewhere else?

[A]

I was staring at the bracket.

[D]

Stare at the bracket.

[B]

If you already have an order, go by the order. I was just gonna make a humble suggestion.

[D]

Go ahead.

[B]

All right. Typically on this stuff, if we have a game that starts the previous day, I would do that one last. Because if someone's listening to us on New Year's Day, the Cotton Bowl's already happened.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Which is gonna suck for us. Cause they know the ending.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I would do that one last.

[D]

Okay. So you wanna do the Rose Bowl?

[B]

Why not?

[C]

Alright.

[D]

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[D]

Let's get to this episode. Okay, let's do the rules. Well, we got Alabama versus number one, Indiana. Indiana's favorite at seven and a half. Total points in that game is 48 and a half. I think it's opened up at six and a half, right?

[B]

Yeah. Wait, what is it now?

[D]

Seven and a half. According to the sheet that Ryan Nolan.

[B]

That's interesting.

[A]

That's seven and a half.

[D]

Yeah. Let me just ask one question, then we can break the game down. What does the model say?

[B]

Model says indiana minus three and a half. There's a huge difference.

[D]

Huge difference. Huge difference is Indiana.

[A]

I like it, though. I like Alabama to cover. I just don't know if they got I just don't know if they have all 60 minutes to beat Indiana.

[D]

You don't know if they have all 60.

[A]

I don't know if they got the 60 minutes to beat Indiana.

[B]

Oh, man. I just.

[A]

What you think?

[B]

Sec pay Ty Simpson comes on the show, does everything but howl in your face. You went out there, you stayed in New York. You went out there. One of the games you were able.

[D]

To get on the field once will hurt. We were going to Miami. He's like, oh, fucking way I'm doing that.

[A]

You guys are supporting.

[D]

Will's going to be in New York with his family. He stayed in Asheville. He didn't do nothing.

[C]

He lied.

[D]

Lincoln Riley went to New York two lies to take place on the show. But onward.

[B]

What was I going to. Oh, yeah. So Ty Simpson.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Goes into wolf mode, which, ironically, you had a wolf after you and Norman. And he was on the field. He was on the field. Wolf mode. He's howling. He comes on the show afterwards, calls both of you out. Shame on both of you for picking against him in that round.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so you would think to yourself.

[A]

You were on that graphic, too. Now he spared you.

[D]

He sat in the studio. Right.

[B]

I can't believe you didn't catch it last week. I lobbed it as clear as I could to you last week.

[D]

We saw it. We just didn't respond to it.

[B]

Just watched it hit the ground like.

[D]

Oh, my God, he's trying to dunk on us.

[B]

Here's what I'm trying to say. If you pick against Alabama this week, you disrespect them and you hate Ty Simpson. So with that, continue your prediction.

[A]

Yeah, that's why I like. I like Alabama. To cover.

[B]

To cover, to cover.

[A]

I'm taking Alabama plus seven and a half.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What's it? Minus six and a half. I'm sitting there, I'm pounding my head against the wall. I kind of don't know which way to go. I do believe Indiana is going to win this game, but I'm like, does Alabama keep it close? 6 and a half seems like a lot. Now that it's seven and a half, we're getting a full point. I kind of like Alabama two score game.

[D]

Now you're looking at before it was, hey, if they just went by a touchdown, I can see that happening with Indiana. You look at any of the defensive lineman, Stephen Daly, he goes out, he has five and a half sacks. Celebrating with fans after the Big Ten.

[A]

Championship, which is, yeah, huge.

[D]

Lands on his leg all weird. He was our best defensive lineman. And then you watched a film of Indiana and their defense and they run a bunch of, like, run stunts on first and second down. So it really messes up. Alabama's already rushing for 3.4 yards per carry, and they do a great job of zone blitz and exotic blitzes. And if you watch the Oklahoma, Alabama game, Oklahoma in the first half ran one specific blitz over, over and over again. In the middle of that offensive line, it was linebacker or nose goes across the face of the center and the linebacker comes in. And for whatever reason, series after series, they cannot figure that out. So then you think, okay, Indiana's kind of got the edge and everything. Then you see Omar Cooper junior's coming Back who missed the Big Ten championship game, we played in the first quarter, misses that game. And he. I think he has, what, 859 receiving yards, am I correct?

[B]

Might as well be 3,000.

[D]

Might as well be 3,000. And then you see Ty Simpson. He's kind of looks like between the ears. He's having a trouble, a little bit of trouble in the first half, late in the. In the second quarter or early in the second quarter, throws the ball in the Alabama sidelines, kind of a duck, but it gets him out of whatever fog he was in. They go back and what score 37 to 7 in the second half. So kind of like, oh, is Alabama back? And then you add the point of seven and a half. And I sit there thinking about, we're talking to Ty Simpson and he's like, he's a wolf. He gets in my face. He puts the graphic of all of us on, but only tags us and spares Josh Pate. And I have no choice but to go Indiana covering -7 and a half because of that. And it's a piece of me. It's like, hey, if Alabama wins, then I've done them a favor yet again because it's clearly motivation. Ty Simpson clearly watches the show. Shouldn't be watching a gambling show. Clearly watches the show.

[A]

He's a fan of the boys.

[D]

Fan of the boys. But I hope he doesn't have, you know, one of the maps right now. He can't have that in college football. John Mateer can't have that.

[A]

Do you see this being anything other than a Ty Simpson? This is a. If Alabama's going to win, it's going to be a Ty Simpson legacy game. It has to, because they're not going to be able to run the football. I was talking with Garrett, who's our Roll Tide Tier 1, and I'm thinking, I mean, 60 yards, that'd be improvement. That'd be what, Something that you leave the game be like, well, at least we could run the football a little bit. But it's going to have to be a Ty Simpson legacy game. And you're talking about what Indiana does well is they cut up the front. They also do exotic pressures, zone blitzes. Everything else, when you do true zone dogs, you're still sending five men to rush the passer. Where Indiana does a good job is they do a lot of simulated pressures. A lot of things that we did with Dean Pease when I came to Tennessee in 2018, where if you're just rushing the passer and you're Playing, let's just say cover three, four underneath, three deep, you're rushing four guys. Simulated pressures, you're bringing guys from the second level, but you're dropping a defensive lineman out. So that way you're still getting the simulation of a pressure that Ty Simpson is going to have to pick up on, but you're still dropping it in. So you're still going to get that four underneath, three deep. Look, if you're talking about simulated pressure in the COVID three.

[D]

Right. Because people think when you bring a lot of pressure, there's clear holes in the defense. But by dropping that defensive lineman, one Ty Simpson is going to react to. Okay, someone's coming here. I can go there. But there's somebody replacing in that area as well, which can cause in turnovers.

[A]

And big Nettie, you know, they're going to do a good job of disguising at times so they can try and throw it off. And if they're cutting it up and getting after Ohio State, Julian saying that offensive line, who's to say they're not going to be getting after Alabama as well? That's why I feel like it's going to. If Bama's going to win, it's going to be a Ty Simpson legacy game. Because you're also playing the Heisman Trophy winner, Fernando Mendoza, not John Mateer, Fernando Mendoza. You're also playing a team who can run the football. Not Oklahoma, who can't run the football. A team who can run the football.

[D]

Yeah. And people, when I brought up Stephen Daley, him getting hurt and he's clearly the best defensive lineman. But because of the stunts that take place on first and second down, the simulated pressures, a lot of times a guy can come free. So when you lose your best player that you're usually scheming because of these simulated pressures, guys have more opportunities to run free. Which leads me to believe there's still going to be an equal amount of pressure with Stephen Daly out of the game.

[A]

And we can just talk amongst each other because we know he's going to go here in a second. Yeah, but you're right, because when old buddy's out, their best player on the D line, when he's out, they're not just true rushing all the time to where it's like Jeffrey Simmons on the Tennessee Titans where he's just going to absolutely disrupt the entire game. We have multiple guys. Yeah, you gotta. Hey, we gotta scheme against him because they are doing so much creativity with sending blitzes, sending pressure, everything else. That's where. Yeah.

[D]

And before we let Josh go, it's like, do we believe in Ty Simpson? No doubt.

[A]

That's the boy.

[D]

That's the guy. That's our wolf.

[A]

That's high and Ty Simpson.

[D]

Exactly. But when you can't effectively run the ball and make yourself one dimensional, it's like, all right, can big Nettie take all this time and be able to be like, okay, this is guy we clearly have to beat, so let's just make sure and disrupt him so he's never safe. Make him get outside the pocket and then, you know, have your guys play in the back end. Now you're not worried about the run.

[A]

Game, but let me throw something at you, please. Ohio State has a down game in the Big Ten championship. Down game, down game. Ohio State has a down game where Indiana sneaks them. Indiana shows up. They've had some time off, they show up and it's Indiana, Notre Dame, last year when we were standing on that sideline, they get hit in the mouth, Bama runs away with it.

[D]

I love where your head's at. It's completely normal for you to think that way. But we're also looking at a year two. Some of the guys that were in that locker room against Notre Dame, they're back. They understand the process, how the playoffs work. Before Indiana, there was like a. What a great story. One of the worst program football programs in the history of the sport, college football. They made the playoffs for the first time. This Kurt Signetti guy, who is he? I don't know. I've googled him. Apparently he wins. Now they're in the year two of it. Fernando Mendoza wins the Heisman. It's a completely different attitude that's kind of taking place here. And to say they had a down game, I think Ohio State is probably going to go on a crazy little run yet again. And regardless of how Michigan was this year, that win for Ohio State was big for them and let them go. Thank God that's done because they clearly were the better team. They, they should have probably won the year before. However, they didn't. And now there's all this amplified pressure taking place for Ohio State and they get a win the way they did against Michigan. It's kind of understandable that there'd be like a little, hey, we finally got the monkey off our back, which makes me go Indiana. Like, they might not be as good as what we saw in the Big Ten championship, but based on one dimensional Alabama offense and big Nettie, his culture, his attitude, the way he talks about, you know, the process and emotions don't really matter. We're working on fundamentals and he just approaches everything the way a head coach should. It's like, I don't see these guys having a break, a buy, and then walking into this thing slow. They understand what's at stake and they understand that the logos that people are going to look at, regardless of the one being next to Indiana's, people are going to go, oh, shit, Alabama is going to mop this team. And that's where Indiana catches the edge even more. Josh.

[B]

This is a tough show to do because we pick the biggest games. The biggest games have the tightest spreads. The tightest spreads mean it could go either way. It's tough to give yourself an edge. We're trying to see through the fog a lot of times when we're trying to make these picks. This one's not that way for me. Alabama's going to win this game outright, so I'll take the points, especially if you're giving me seven and a half. I love it. Both of you are doubting Ty Simpson. That's what you're doing.

[D]

Nope.

[A]

No, Josh, don't you put that on.

[D]

We said Ty Simpson is a dog. Their offense is one dimensional.

[B]

Let me tell you what a dog would do in this game. He'd win the game. He'd win the game. That's what he would do. When he went on the road against Georgia. Did they have a run game against Georgia earlier in the year?

[A]

Come on now. It was earlier in the year.

[B]

He won the game.

[A]

That was earlier in the year.

[B]

I'm glad you're mentioning this, William. Do you want to know why I'm going back to the Georgia game?

[A]

Please do tell.

[B]

Sources deep inside the program tell me that Alabama's team will be as healthy as not just they've been since the Georgia game, but since they've been since the second scrimmage of fall camp. You hadn't seen this team all year. And I get the added psychological benefit of the rubber band effect of what the final three quarters of that Oklahoma game did. You just summoned the Ohio State example and it was good. I want to go back to the year before, the Ohio State, Michigan example where they lose. But somehow, some way, that ends up being the psychological rubber band for Ohio State and they go on a run. That spread is what it is because of what these teams have been this year. But I'm not trying to look in my rearview mirror to pick the Rose Bowl. I'm trying to look in the windshield. My entire premise for My belief that Alabama is going to win this game outright is because I believe the team that will be on the field, or rather the performance level that will be on the field will benefit, number one, for having jumped in ice cold water and survived it last week. And then you kind of feel yourself a little bit. Number two, I think the Stephen Daly loss is even bigger than you guys just made it. You, you pointed it out and you talked about it. They haven't had to play a series without that guy all year. If you go back and watch them against Oregon, you go back and watch them against Ohio State, he's constantly in the backfield. If I give Ty Simpson any time to throw. The only other set of receivers that Indiana faced like Alabama has is Ohio State. Ohio State like was very hesitant to even use that part of their weaponry, which I think would be different a second time around if they played them. But the other thing that I think people are forgetting here is Alabama's defense carried them while they were banged up and then they go into the Georgia game and they're totally crippled. And the Georgia game is the lasting impression even above the Oklahoma game that I think a lot of people have in their minds. Even though that Oklahoma game just happened like two weeks ago. I really think most people when they picture Alabama in their head, some people probably even still remember the Florida State game from the beginning of the year. But you really remember that Georgia game because the mind thinks in terms of worst case, like what's the disaster scenario? The best case scenario for Bama this year has been winning close games. The worst case has been the whole wheels come off. All four of them come off like they did against Georgia. I don't think any semblance of that team is taking the field this week at the Rose bowl because I've got Josh Cuevas back, I've got a healthy Parker Brailsford, I've got LT Overton back. They thought medically that guy wasn't going to play again this year. And remember, he's not coming back from injury, he's coming back from medical. So it's not like they're trying to ease him back in with an ankle or a knee. So out Indiana's best defensive front player. Enter Alabama's best defensive front player. And in Indiana's closest games this year, you're talking about a five point win against Indiana or Iowa. You're talking about a come from behind win against Penn State. You're Talking about hanging 13 to beat Ohio State. These haven't been blowout games. I think Alabama's team will play at the highest level that they've played at all year. Therefore, I think what we're going to see is not indicative necessarily in their worst moments of what we have seen. And the other thing about Indiana, their talent, like their best skill set has been high level execution, which will buzz saw you through a regular season. The one thing that I worry about is the same thing growing up as a Braves fan that I worried about with Greg Maddox. Greg Maddox was the ace of my staff and he was a craftsman. And he never hit 95 on the gun, but he didn't need to. And he'd win like 18, 19 games in the regular season. He's the professor. He said, bam on us.

[A]

Greg Maddox, I don't need to sell you.

[B]

I don't need to say I want to beat you. Actually, look at my record. I need to beat you.

[D]

He said we weren't going to do it. Now he's trying to do it.

[A]

Well, that just safety. I am Alabama + 7 1/2.

[B]

They get in the post and then.

[A]

I'll get the look. It was always Alabama plus seven and a half.

[D]

Hey, you're not going to Indiana.

[A]

No, I'm saying Indiana. I think Indiana is going to win, but I think Alabama's going to cover.

[B]

You are going to win. That's the irony of all this. You are going to win.

[A]

I said it right before, like I said honestly, at the very top.

[D]

I thought I talked to you into it, Austin. And he started talking. I'm thinking to myself, oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah. But hey, he's painting a beautiful picture for me. He think about who his preseason national champ was.

[D]

Alabama.

[A]

Alabama.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Think about like what kind of equity he has in Alabama winning this game. Think about what kind of equity he has in this storytelling.

[D]

Think about his family.

[B]

Think about his wife.

[A]

Yeah. His dad. His dad's own bitch.

[B]

You're one of the dirtiest players I've ever met. Why would I even listen to you talk about my dad?

[D]

So, hey, if you're so confident in Alabama, take Alabama money line.

[B]

I already did.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So this is what it's like to be on an island.

[B]

The problem. The problem.

[D]

No, actually I have a. Yeah. What's with you?

[B]

You get to the playoffs. This used to be like one of your religious part of your show prep is I'm listening to my words parroted back in my face. Because you've listened to my show. That's exactly when you go to my show.

[D]

Yeah. Had to. Had to. Because you say Things so beautifully and eloquently. I can't help but just keep it in my head. And then it comes out of my mouth in a less beautiful way and I just can't do that. So I decided then when you, when.

[A]

You called him on it, he's probably thinking like, okay, I gotta.

[B]

He.

[D]

Yeah. I texted Josh, hey, by the way, I don't mean to do that. It just kind of happens.

[B]

We left that day. Everyone's laughing, in a great mood. And then I look down at my phone, it's like I can tell there were teardrops on the phone. As you texted me this apology, I'm like, I had a bunch of.

[D]

Yeah, my tears. It's okay for me. That's kind of what happened.

[B]

I wanted to stroke your cheek like it's okay.

[D]

It's done, ma'.

[A]

Am.

[D]

No, I had to find a new way.

[B]

Let me tell you about Greg Maddox. He would get to the playoffs and he'd get lit up in the playoffs. And it's not cause Greg Maddox was a bad pitcher. It's because he had to rely on craftsmanship and high level precision to overcome raw power that he lacked. I'm not saying Indiana lacks power. I'm saying they lack elite athleticism. And because of that they're so fundamentally sound technically they just out execute folks when you get to the postseason that can win, but they've got to actually do what Bama's been doing all year. They got to walk the tightrope. That's what Indiana has to do. They don't have this massive athletic edge. They're playing a team in Alabama that's had to live that way all year. And they're playing a team in Alabama that really doesn't get crowbarred down to a halt if you take away their ground game because they haven't run the ball anyway. So I think Alabama is going to be very, very efficient throwing the ball. Weather could be horrible, by the way. Weather could be horrible here. A lot of people have theories on who that helps and a lot of times it's just a wash pun. A lot of times it's a wash. I always love if I've got a deep receiver core. I always love that those guys know where they're going and the defense doesn't. And I think from a reactionary standpoint, a lot of times bad weather or a wet track works against the defense a lot more than it just helps the run game.

[D]

You got seven studs for that.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm going to take Alabama to Win out right now if you got.

[D]

Burger King hands, no doubt.

[A]

I don't know the size Ty's got. You know what I mean? Gotta be able to grip that ball.

[D]

I'll be honest, I don't know how the rest of these.

[A]

I'm saying I don't know, but I.

[D]

Have all the games. I'm praying Indiana not because of Ty. I love Ty.

[A]

He's doubting Big Nettie. Indiana. Twitter is going to eat this up.

[D]

So you're on this show. You're taking Alabama Moneyline.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

That's all I needed. That's all I needed. Because if I hit that L category, I want him.

[A]

I started laughing when he was talking about who's the D lineman coming back for Bama.

[B]

LT Overton.

[A]

LT Overton. When he's like, he's not just coming back from injury. I was in my head hoping he was going to say he's coming back from death.

[D]

Yeah, I talked to Garrett about it yesterday, too. Garrett's okay. He's back. And I was all on Alabama yesterday. And then for whatever reason.

[B]

Oh, hey, so you were mentioning. Hey, if they get 60 yards on the ground, like, that's a good day, right? For Alabama. Got some good news for you. I was just looking at FanDuel over under 77 and a half rushing yards for Alabama.

[A]

What are you taking there?

[B]

Don't have a strong feel on it because I think they can run it for 68 yards and win. Like, I think there's several pads. I don't count on Alabama to run the ball. If they ran it, that would just be a crazy added bonus to me. I think if they, if they rush for over 77 yards, it's something like. Like Ryan Williams on some orbit motion or something like that, ends up breaking off 35. And then the rest of the game just looks like a normal Alabama game. And they have 84 rushing yards. But half of it comes on one play and it's probably in the hands of a receiver. So say all that to say, I don't have a feel on that one, but I'll take Alabama Moneyline.

[D]

Alabama Moneyline. Alabama plus seven and a half.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Indiana minus seven and a half. Onward. What game would you like to go to next, Josh?

[B]

Let's go to the Sugar Bowl.

[D]

Sugar bowl. Ole Miss versus Georgia. Georgia's favored by six and a half points. Total in that game is 55 and a half. This team played before Georgia scored 17 points in the fourth quarter. Ole Miss scored 0.

[B]

43 in the 4335 final right?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Nice little shootout. Fun little shootout.

[D]

Fun little shootout. Touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown. Every drive.

[B]

Georgia never punted. Ole Miss had touchdowns in their first five drives. Trinidad Chambliss first SEC road start. They played obviously earlier in the year, so that was an athlete.

[A]

This was pre Georgia defense coming alive all of a sudden.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

This is pre Georgia getting to the quarterback.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Some say in Georgia circles, the latter portion of this game is where their defense turned a corner. I don't disagree with him. Kirby's trying to downplay that. He was like, oh, I don't even remember how the end of that game went. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. So something flipped a switch in the Georgia defense mentality and they started getting after the quarterback or at least started affecting the quarterback a whole lot more. But I think that this is the most dangerous quarterback in the playoffs. All the teams included Ty Simpson, Julian say, and we got the Heisman trophy winner Fernando Mendoza in this tournament. If there was one that just, like, scared me, it would actually be Trinidad Chambliss, because I don't know what his ceiling is because he's ascended all year. He can do more with legs, arms combined than anyone. And the only one who would challenge that's really Dante Moore at Oregon. So I think this is a really unique challenge for Georgia. The reason I'm going to go Georgia and I actually went Georgia minus the points. I like Georgia minus up to seven, so we can get six and a half right now is I always just blindly trust Kirby in these spots. Remember the Georgia Texas game when they played him in Athens? And at the time, like, everyone was trying to say, ooh, man, Texas getting hot. Texas coming out of the by like, maybe this is the time. And Georgia just shut them down. And my entire premise for taking him is Kirby's not going to get beat in the spot. And that's the same way I feel about these games. He's earned so much, like, blind trust. It's not blind, but he's earned so much trust in my mind that I think about him in these spots. This is where their season ended last year. That was the Notre Dame game. They got beat like 23 to 10. That was Stockton's first start because Beck was out for the year. You still got Gunner Stockton, but now I've seen him in several big games. Tennessee game earlier this year. They needed to score 40. They did. They needed to score 40 against Ole Miss. They did. The Alabama game the first time around. He lost, but then he played really, really good football. The Second time around the Texas game, he played really well, but the Ole Miss game was his best game. So if Georgia can win scoring 20, yeah, that's great. That probably is a game that favors them. But if they need to get up into the 40s, I trust that they can. They're playing on a fast track. They're getting Colby Young back their wide receiver. It's so weird because you normally get to the playoffs and you're thinking it's a war of attrition. Who's left? But you got some of these teams. Bama getting Overton back. You're getting guys back if you're Oregon. You're getting guys back if you're Georgia. Not to say they're not banged up. Cause they are. But I like Georgia to be able to win. Probably still a pretty high scoring game. Honestly, I don't hate over 55 and a half. Are we allowed to take a total as our pick?

[D]

If you'd like to go ahead?

[B]

I would prefer to take over 55 and a half as my pick. So that's on the record. But then off the record, just us talking. I would also lay the points with Georgia.

[D]

Yeah, Georgia's gotten a whole lot better throughout the year. Everyone was knocking him for starting, so starting slow and the second half, turning it on and just being able to will themselves into beating people. I think Georgia's probably going to win this game. I love the storyline of the head coach being like, this is Charlie Weiss's offense. You could tell the entire team is like, fuck Lane Kiffin. We're going to show him. And meanwhile, Lane Kiffin's at the LSU bowl game. He, like leaves early and everyone's up in arms about the.

[B]

Just made his appearance.

[D]

Yeah, but I. I just love the story of these kids being like, we're a bunch of misfits. We have no leader, stability taking place right now. Our guy left left us during a playoff run. So I'm going to take Ole Miss with the points. I like everything you said about Trinidad Chambliss. I don't have a whole lot to hang on my hat other than that because Georgia has turned it up quite a bit. And this is more of a hope than it is a breakdown.

[A]

Yeah, I would love to see an upset with Ole Miss just in the College Football Playoff. The spirit of the playoff and Ole Miss story and everything else. I just for me, I'm taking Georgia with the points just because it's more of the Kirby smart. It's like this team been here so many times, so Many times.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Like, this spot is part of the process for Georgia, the preparation for playoffs and being in massive bowl games or national titles, SEC championship. Like, it's always part of the process for Georgia and Ole Miss being kind of being new in the spot and also without with all the drama that surrounded them. I'm just, I'm leaning on Kirby Smart in Georgia to cover in this game. Especially the way they've played the last like five weeks defensively, coming alive, getting after the quarterback, Gunner Stockton, in these moments. Yeah, I like Georgia. I like Georgia to cover for both.

[D]

Of you who are on Georgia. Does the break hold any weight for you when you kind of look at Oregon and Ohio State last year?

[A]

It does. But again, Kirby's smart. Like whatever break that they've had. Like you've had like bowl preps during bowl games or you've had long breaks or a month off at a time. Like, to me, it's like Kirby Smart just understands this situation at all times, year in and year out to where anybody who walks in that building, in that program as a freshman, they just. This is all that they've known. So they know when their head coach is going to be hard on them, when they might be getting, you know, an off day because of injuries. Even though Kirby's Smart, you got an injured team, you got what a scared team. What did he say a few weeks ago before they were talking about if you're injured and you don't practice, you have.

[B]

You end up having a scared team.

[A]

You end up having a scared team. Like, I just, I just believe in Kirby Smart. So it does a little bit. But again, it's like Oregon. That was Oregon. Dan Lanning is kind of their first experience in that moment. And coming off a very pissed off Ohio State team losing to Michigan thump in Tennessee than they get Oregon, where Oregon's had zero prep. It's kind of the first year of this 12 team playoff. But again, with Kirby Smart, I just, I don't really have much doubt that he's probably handled it as good as he possibly can coming off that SEC title.

[B]

Yeah, I will say, like, my answer is yeah. With the teams coming off the buy, it's just a blanket concern for me. I never know. I could say the same thing about Indiana. I could say the same thing about Oregon. I'd say the same thing about Georgia here. I just never know. And there have been stretches of Mike Bobo's career where slow starts have haunted them. There have been stretches this year where Georgia struggled with that. It was a Little more early in the season. But then the other thing, I think you gotta. You gotta avoid like the recency bias. A little bit of the last two games you saw Georgia play was Georgia Tech and Alabama. And neither one of them had like an existing offense at the time they played Georgia. And so Georgia just shut them both down. And that could fool you a little bit into not. Not thinking highly of the defense. I think highly of the defense, but maybe over inflating it a little bit. And then all of a sudden you face a different challenge. And what if first two possessions here for Ole Miss are the same way that previous game started?

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's 14 nothing. So then the other thing, I don't know that this is able to be quantified. I don't want to overlook this because I was just thinking about this. So this game last year, Sugar bowl last year for Georgia, specifically, think about this experience. There's a terrorist attack in New Orleans, so they bumped the game back, I think a day. Kirby Smart's dad dies while he's at the game, while he's in New Orleans for the Sugar bowl. And then from a purely athletic standpoint, their season gets ended. So going back to New Orleans a year later, like, what must that feel like for them? Yeah, what must that feel like for him? That cannot. You're glad you're there. But like, from a competitive PTSD sort of standpoint, that's got to do a number on you. It pales in comparison to what people who were actually victims of the terrorist attack had to deal with, obviously. But in football terms, that can't be the easiest trip. I'm pretty sure there were three other semifinal or quarterfinal spots they would have preferred to go if they had their choice. But here we are, New Year's night.

[D]

It's a good point.

[A]

A lot of options over Ole Miss with the points, Georgia to cover.

[D]

This might actually.

[B]

This is separation Sugar Bowl.

[D]

Separation Sugar bowl. Not Oregon. We're not going Oregon yet. Correct.

[B]

I would go ahead and go Oregon.

[D]

Okay, let's go Oregon.

[C]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

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[D]

We're talking about the Orange bowl now. Oregon versus Texas Tech.

[B]

We're always on the same page.

[D]

Oregon favored two and a half. Total points in the game is 51 and a half.

[B]

That dropped, didn't it? Wow. Okay, carry on.

[D]

Dan Lanning back in the playoffs versus Texas Tech. A team that people say bought their entire. They bought their entire team. Would they gel? Would they not? And upon the Bay 12 get themselves a buy. They're in completely uncharted territory. Oregon's at least been this position before.

[A]

Number one run defense in the country.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Check up Rodriguez.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oregon, one of the best run offenses in the country.

[D]

Dante Moore had a nice tune up game against a G5 team that will not be named. Since then, every starter has transferred.

[B]

Yeah. Only the. Only the logo remains. All the players are gone.

[D]

Dante Moore looked great.

[A]

Will.

[B]

Oh, can before, before you go. Oh no, I don't know who this is from. It says don't forget Oregon spent a fair amount of money in the portal as well. Get our name out your mouth. Well, that last part was necessary. Wow. Yeah, that was a little gross. So Oregon's pretty active in the portal as well. Just before the whole world claims that Texas Tech. Bunch of portal merchants.

[D]

Yeah. A lot of money. More than Texas Tech.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's what some say. People are saying that these are not public records. Yeah, I can't FOIA this information.

[D]

Right. This is all allegedly.

[A]

Oregon doesn't have Nike and Phil Knight. Right.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm feeling $40 million into their roster.

[D]

Yeah, it's all allegedly.

[B]

That's a lofty number. That's a lofty number in this economy.

[D]

Is it culture or is it. Is it laning or is it de narrow?

[B]

Wow.

[D]

You know, because you kind of. You lean Texas Tech because it's. I haven't heard a whole lot of Joey McGuire saying a whole lot about Dan Lanning. It's kind of kept it quiet a little bit.

[B]

And landing said this game should be.

[D]

In Lubbock, which is I think a great move.

[B]

And also just A is it bold face lie? I never knew. Always like kind of skimp dancing that you know, I want to play this game in Lubbock. He's saying it. Cause he knows that it can't happen.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And he knows that's what the spirit of college football needs is everybody who have a buy get to host a playoff game.

[B]

He is right about that. I'm not disagreeing with him in principle.

[A]

Don't you wish this game was in Lubbock?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I'm just saying, if it was in Lubbock, I doubt. Lanning opens his presser and says, ladies and gentlemen, tell you what I'm really happy about. We're going to Lubbock, Texas. Isn't it great? Don't you love it? I highly doubt that would happen.

[D]

Yeah, McGuire's kind of. He kept it quiet. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, he has.

[A]

I think so. There's a little something I got. No. Yeah.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Because I. When I think of Joey McGuire, I think of Texas Tech. You know, my. My love for Jacob Rodriguez, his quads, the physique, the mustache, everything that run defense has going on.

[B]

Going against a victim of the deep state.

[A]

Victim of the deep state. Yes. Yeah.

[D]

The cat that sat there on national television and hit the crossbar right before.

[A]

The Big 20 got a lot of juice.

[D]

Yeah, he's got a lot of momentum.

[A]

A lot of momentum. He's got a lot of juice. A lot of swag. But I cannot help but think that Oregon has been working for this spot for an entire year. I cannot help but think about Dan Laning waking up in a cold sweat over and over at least once a week throughout this entire year, no matter what cliche bullshit he tells the press conference on how he's felt since that ass whooping that the Ohio State Buckeyes and Ryan Day gave his little ass a year ago. Because they're in this spot, they're in this round that they were a year ago. This is everything that they've worked towards. This is where their season is supposed to start. And I also can't get out of my head the letter I got. No, you didn't get a letter in the mail last night.

[D]

Are you serious?

[A]

I got a letter.

[D]

Was it overnighted or was it standard business?

[A]

It was just. It was just folded like this, sitting in my mailbox.

[D]

You got a drive by.

[B]

Wait, this was not in an envelope?

[D]

No.

[B]

There was no postage?

[A]

No.

[B]

And I'll say, listen, make sure. I just want to authenticate it. I just want to see. So this is a. This is a Letter. This is handwritten? Yeah. All right, continue.

[A]

It's real, so I don't know who it's from. Okay, you guys can tell me, because I'm Lee.

[D]

I'm leaning tech right now.

[B]

Let's not go there.

[D]

People have kept their mouth shut.

[B]

Let's hear it out first.

[A]

Knock, knock.

[D]

Who's there?

[A]

Red Raider.

[D]

Red Raider who?

[A]

How many times you think that pussy has asked his wife which shoes he should wear this weekend? What's his excuse gonna be when it's sugar daddy Phil Knight? What's his excuse gonna be to his sugar daddy, Phil Knight, when he loses with the 40 million dollar plus roster?

[D]

So it is true.

[A]

Don't forget the type of guy he is. He claps when the plane lands. He was the kid that would remind the teacher that homework was due. He plugs his nose when he jumps in the pool. Even plugs his nose when he gets in the shower. No. Get off his meat, Willie. See, how's that Big Ten butt taste. Red Raider fan for life. Joey Mack. Could be anyone.

[C]

Could be.

[B]

WrestleMania 17. Steve Austin versus the Rock. Austin turns heel, wins the WWF Now E. Championship. Jim Ross is sitting at ringside and he's just screaming, I thought I knew that man. I thought I knew Steve Austin. I didn't know how he felt at the time because I was a kid, but I kind of know that feeling now. Because I know Joey Maguire. Or I thought I did. I thought I knew Joey Maguire. I thought I knew Joey Maguire. I thought I knew that man. But the Joey Maguire I know, Joey McGuire 1.0, would not have done that. But Joey McGuire 2.0 dark.

[D]

Joey playoff.

[B]

Joey Playoff. Joey Playoff. Joey Mack apparently has peeled off a layer. And what was underneath is something more terrifying than we could have ever imagined. This is Buffalo Bill. Dan Lanning down in the basement in some pit. He just told Dan to put the lotion on the skin. Yeah, and it sounds like Dan has no other option.

[A]

Which shoes you wearing, Danny boy?

[B]

Oh, that's terrible.

[D]

What if Dan just shows up in a pair of black J's? No color, nothing on them.

[A]

I'm taking Oregon.

[D]

You know, I said before that note, I was leaning Texas Tech. And the main reason was. Is no one was saying that Joey McGuire was keeping it quiet. People from Texas Tech were being polite about Oregon. But after that letter. Ma', am, here's what I'll say. If that letter. If Dan Lenning sees that letter and then loses the Texas Tech, that program might be done.

[A]

Not only loses the Texas Tech, but loses in this Spot two years in a row.

[D]

I'm gonna ride with my boy.

[A]

What kind of fake noise are we gonna get about Dan Lanning and not being able to win the big one?

[B]

Would it be fake at that point? Got lost. Lost Indiana.

[A]

I fake in the sense of Dan Franklin. Do you start coming for his job?

[D]

That's what people will say.

[B]

No, Dan Franklin don't do that.

[A]

Danny Franklin.

[B]

Danny Franklin don't do that.

[D]

I'm not doing it. I'm just saying that's.

[B]

People will do it.

[D]

People will do that.

[B]

So that's fair.

[D]

I love my boy.

[B]

We don't do that.

[A]

You're just saying if they lose. Some of the first tweets we will see on X is going to be.

[B]

Danny Franklin, the AI. Dan Lanning's face, James Franklin's body. Yeah, don't do that. Anyway.

[D]

Please don't do that.

[B]

I'm not.

[D]

I would never do that to my guy. I want to be very clear in that. I would never do that to my guy. But if that letter holds true and Texas Tech wins, God forbids. Covers this tiny little line, which they.

[B]

Would do if they won't. Don't take Texas.

[D]

They could win.

[B]

Don't take Texas Tech to win, but Oregon to cover. We've gone down that road once this year. We don't want to take the dog on the money line. But the favorites cover.

[A]

Was that Iowa? Was that Iowa State?

[B]

I don't think it's important.

[D]

My brain doesn't go back that far.

[B]

I think it's important. I think it's important that you didn't smile a lick when you said it. Said it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And just sat there and was like, this is. I'm standing 10 toes.

[B]

I'm taking dog, money line. I'm laying the points, but I'm taking the dog on the money line.

[D]

Give me Oregon. Give me loyalty. Give me Dan Lanning to get this monkey off his back.

[A]

I'm surprised you're not going with the Red Raiders.

[D]

I was thinking about you.

[A]

Been you even before the College Football Playoff. You're like, I kind of want.

[D]

I think they're sneaky.

[B]

I know.

[D]

I think they're a little bit of a dark horse. I thought that, but you told me something. What was that thing you told me?

[B]

That I'm taking organ.

[D]

No, about the gap. Integrity.

[A]

Just whenever something gets said to him, there's a look that he has in his eyes where it ain't coming. He said so many different things like, you got to help him out.

[D]

Gap and gap and Taylor.

[B]

Oh, yeah, well, so Taylor comes to me to break down line play a whole lot. And so we were talking about gap integrity the other day and we were talking about just the style of play that Texas Tech has incorporated very effectively in the Big 12 this year. And their. Their stat profile is like a silo. It's just Big 12 teams because that's all they played. Oregon State. Both of them played Oregon State back to back weeks. There's a mutual opponent here, and it was pretty much the same outcome. So then elsewhere, you're wondering, all right, what did they do? Well, they did everything they did in the Big 12. All right? Now they blew everyone out when they had their starting quarterback in Big 12 play, no one ran the ball on. Kansas State ran it for 126. That was the best rushing output anyone had against Texas Tech all year. And yet the over under on total rushing yards for Oregon is 142 and a half.

[A]

Well, it was.

[B]

Now it's 144 after what I did to it. So I attacked that number because I actually think the biggest edge in this game is Oregon's going to be able to run the ball better than anyone has on Texas Tech. I fully understand that Joey, author of that note alleged, will be taking this. And I'm not even alleging that they're going to put it in the hype video because earlier this year I thought Kansas would cover against Texas Tech foolishly. I was pretty vocal about it on the show that week. And then Texas Tech just ran it up on Kansas and then I got a text. Not a letter, a text. And the text was from one Joey McGuire. And it was a video link to the video that they had showed the team the Friday night before the game. And my prediction was laced throughout the video. They did everything but put a clown nose on me. And so I understand what I'm about to say is going to be used, it's going to be leveraged, it's going to be weaponized inside the walls of the Texas Tech hotel down there in Miami. But I don't care because I really do think Oregon's going to be able to run the ball. And if they can do that, they have full balance and they'll be able to operate offensively and they'll put Texas Tech in the spot no one else has. And that's in a dog fight in the fourth quarter or maybe even having to play from behind. Now, that doesn't mean they can't. It just means they've been so good this year, they haven't Been in that spot and I think they're going to get put in that spot. And I think what we saw Ohio State do to Oregon last year sort of hit the reset button in Oregon's mind. And everything was built on peaking at the right time because Oregon just kind of peaked during the season last year. And then whatever was left got served up to Ohio State and Ohio State peaked at the right time. I think Oregon's going to peak at the right time and I think they're going to go down there and they're going to win and they're going to look in the bus rear view mirror as they pull out of the parking lot knowing we could be right back in this building on January 19th. I think it is because where they're playing this quarterfinal game is where they play the national championship game. Because college Football playoff system is stupid. So you play in some buildings twice. God forbid we play these second round games on campus. We couldn't have that.

[D]

That's got to change this year, dude.

[B]

Some of the get in prices. So. So before I go, Oregon wins. My favorite prop bet of the playoffs is Oregon over total rushing yards 142 and a half, which I think is 144 and a half now. It's my biggest wager of the playoffs, period.

[D]

We're going to have to all hit that.

[B]

Period.

[D]

We're going to have to hit that.

[B]

Now, the get in prices for these games, something's got to be done. There are rumors on the streets that a couple of these games won't even be at capacity. Cotton Bolt, which we're about to break down. Orange bowl, some of the get in prices are under $100. Rose bowl, it's going to rain like five inches. But still, get in price is insanely cheap out there. Now you may be thinking, oh, man, you're the future commissioner. What, what do you have against affordable ticket prices? It's affordable because there's no demand. Because everyone's looking at the game saying, why would I pay money to go to a quarterfinal game a thousand miles away? If we win, I'll just go to the next round games. And if we lose, I just paid money to go watch our season end. So either way, I don't want anything to do with that. Whereas these games could be played in where Columbus and Lubbock and Eugene and Athens, that's where we could be watching these games happen on New Year's Day.

[D]

Are you going to any of these games?

[B]

I'm not going to a single quarterfinal game.

[D]

If these games Were at the locations. You were just saying multiple.

[B]

I would go to multiple.

[D]

I'm with you.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

All right.

[A]

He's like, none of them.

[B]

None of them.

[D]

Oregon.

[B]

Oregon.

[D]

Oregon.

[A]

Oregon. Big, Oregon.

[B]

How big? Big, like 30, 40.

[D]

What's the model say about this game?

[A]

I'm going to say I'm going to.

[B]

Minus four and a half.

[D]

That's good enough for me. It's a parlay if I ever heard one.

[B]

Yeah. Four and a half.

[A]

I'm going to go, Oregon, move the line to minus nine and a half.

[C]

Geez.

[B]

So alt lining it.

[A]

Alt line.

[B]

You're going to screenshot that and send it to me?

[D]

Yeah. All right. He'll tweet it.

[A]

I'll fucking put it out there.

[D]

I'll fucking put it out there.

[A]

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[C]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

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[E]

Ah.

[C]

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[A]

T o.com look good, feel good, play good. Let's get to the true classic game of the week.

[D]

All right, True Classic game of the week. Every weekend's got games. Boy one fits just right. This is the true classic game of the week. We got Will's favorite, Miami versus Ohio State. It is at the Cotton Bowl. Ohio State is favored at minus nine and a half. Total points in that game is 41 and a half. You weren't at this game. Miami beat Texas A and M at Texas A and M. I think the score in that game was 10, 3.

[B]

10 3, 10, 3.

[A]

Miami won.

[D]

Miami won. That's why they're playing in this game. And kicker missed what, four field goals.

[B]

I don't put that all on him. We were playing in a hurricane. You felt it more than I did. You were way higher than I was.

[A]

Yeah, but still the psyche.

[B]

You think so? Yeah, I don't think so.

[D]

That stadium goes straight up and down. Like we were on what, the second highest level and it wasn't that windy for us and we were above the field goal posts.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So it wasn't like there was a little vortex.

[A]

You know better than me when not psyche. If he happens to watch this show and he just hears that, then that could play into the psyche. Should I be.

[D]

We should put a spoiler up for him. Like if you're the Miami kicker, don't watch this part of the segment.

[B]

I look all right. So last night I watched an NFL quarter, so that's why I'm talking NFL.

[E]

Wow.

[B]

Atlanta needed a 51 yarder. Remember that?

[D]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I thought the dude just piped it like as good a looking kick as you could possibly kick. I know there a lot of kicks every week, but you split the uprights. The Miami game, I thought that dude drilled one. Like wouldn't change a thing about the way the ball came off the foot, about the snap, about the place, about the hold and it's on its way and then wind takes it, which is not going to happen because I have the forecast in my hand at kickoff in Jerry world. What is it, 70 degrees, 0 mile per hour winds?

[D]

Wow. Is that because it's in a dome?

[B]

Yeah. It's not even going to be sunny. The little windows aren't even going to come into play.

[D]

They're not going to open the windows.

[B]

Because it's a night game. So who cares?

[D]

That makes sense.

[B]

So I don't, I don't worry about special teams. I don't worry about kicking from Miami. What I do worry about is Carson Beckham. But should I. But should I worry about Carson back? I'm working on a theory here and my theory is that Miami realized their teeth were clenched pretty tight defensively in that A and M game. And the only way they thought to themselves that we're going to lose this is if we give it away. And we would give it away by putting the ball in the air and Carson back throwing some picks and I just think they throttle play. Calling down. I'd. You will not convince. Let me put it another way. You will not convince me that Carson Beck is a Liability offensively for Miami. If he is, they're going to get smoked in this game. So if I'm wrong, then it's. It's Ohio State alt line. It's like Ohio State big. I don't think that he's played a ton of ball. He's played in several big games. He's been a weapon more times than not. I'm not saying like top five future draft pick or anything like that, but I'm saying I think they can lean on him to make plays here. And I don't know, man, there's so much talk about the physicality with Miami. With good reason. It's a really physical team. It's a really physically impressive team. Ohio State. Twitter is some of the worst in the world at hearing what you don't say. Earlier this year. I go to the Miami FSU game, I say, man, there's no team in the country that physically looks like Miami. They took it to mean there's no team better than Miami in the country, which I didn't say. Ironically, these two teams play each other now. I'm still going to say look at it on the field. There's no team that looks like Miami. Doesn't mean they'll win the game though. They're a nine and a half point dog for a reason. But if you want to get like really simplistic about it, you do the O line versus D line edge. You do the D line versus O line edge. There is at least an argument to be made that Miami has a two way edge there. Slight edges like 52, 48, 55. 45. But there I think you can make that argument. I haven't said that about anyone else Ohio State played this year. I'll just say that quarterback experience edge goes to Miami. Who has the better quarterback? That one we could debate a little bit more and it's really situational. But I ended up going Julian saying. Well, I think so. I think so.

[D]

Julian saying has two aliens he throws to.

[B]

That's true. If he throws it.

[D]

If he throws, that would be the argument.

[B]

Hey, you know who's calling plays in this game offensively?

[A]

X factor.

[B]

Ryan Day.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Solid up and comer in the coaching profession. Ryan Day. Friend. Friend of your program.

[A]

Friend of the show.

[D]

Friend of the show.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Nope.

[D]

Personally not a friend of Taylor. Taylor does respect Ryan Dal.

[A]

Yeah, respect.

[D]

There's a respect level. But if I'm in Columbus, Ohio, I'm not.

[A]

There's a respect level you have for him.

[D]

I have a respect level for Ryan Dale, there's no doubt about it.

[B]

Not quite enough to look him in the eyes on the camera, but there's.

[D]

A respect level, you know. You know damn well how that bus works. You bite your tongue, you know how that bus works.

[B]

But they don't. They don't know.

[D]

You explained it me. We're changing that monitor this offseason. We got. I gotta have a ride in front.

[B]

Of the cameback monitor.

[D]

Look it up the whole time.

[B]

I am going to take Ohio State in the game for the same reasons I took Georgia against Ole Miss. Because I don't want to overlook the staff factor here and the staffing edge. And having been there before, it's a big game program. This is unfamiliar territory for all of Miami. I don't really care. Like 90s early 2000s, nobody on that staff in their current role, let me put it that way, has been this far out on the tree limb. Nobody on that roster. The only one is really Carson Beck. He's been there with Georgia. That's why I think he's a strength in this game for them. It's the biggest point spread in the playoffs. And it's the game that actually intrigues me the most because if you start seeing the game get bogged down, it just spreads out the window. The two best defenses that I watched Ohio State play this year were probably Texas and Indiana and they scored 14 and 10.

[D]

Michigan, pretty good defense.

[B]

Yeah, but they took care of Michigan pretty handedly.

[D]

Okay, we never say it like that.

[B]

But what if it's that kind of game? Like really, what if. What If Miami needs 17 points to win? I don't think it'll be that kind of game. For the record, like, I think Ohio State will probably learn from their mistakes in terms of approach against Indiana. And if they go down, they're going to go down swinging with those wide receivers. And that's why I think Ohio State will win, because I think they'll get plenty enough offensive juice here to where they don't condense the game and insert so much variance into the equation. They don't let Miami take over. Also, Ohio State's knock, backing down physically from anyone. So it's not like I think Miami is going to overwhelm them with physicality. So wouldn't shock me if Miami won. We'll take Miami in the points one possession game. Ish. I will take Ohio State to win, though, which I think a lot of people are going to do as a cop out in this game, by the way.

[A]

Take Miami with the points. Yeah, I Think Ohio State is going to blow them up.

[D]

I think Ohio State's going to beat him by three touchdowns.

[B]

Run it up big.

[D]

Yeah, big. Compton big.

[B]

What's the thinking?

[D]

Big, Netty, big.

[A]

So my thinking is I think you're right with Miami. I think this game's going to come down to Carson Beck like Miami's going to. Mark Fletcher is going to have to have a big game. But do I honestly believe that they're going to have success running the football against Ohio State? Like this is one of the best Ohio State defenses that they've had. They're giving up like what, eight, eight points a game.

[D]

They haven't given up more than 16 points all year.

[A]

Yeah, they're giving up yeah, like eight point the average. Giving up like eight points a game. And then I think about offensively, what happened to Ohio State and Indiana going against Miami who by the way their defensive line then get after your ass. They're secondary. I loved watching them fly around to the football against A and M. They got Keonte Scott back from last from his injury. They had him back in the N M game so he's getting his feet wet. The secondary is opportunistic. I do love Ohio State, this challenge, going up against Miami's defense. But I think Ohio State giving up five sacks to Indiana is one of those things to where it's like them losing to Michigan last year. I feel like it's kind of the best thing to happen to them in the Big Ten championship right before they get in the into the college football playoffs because the offensive line is going to be challenged. They get to live in that. Watching the tape, seeing the five sacks get coached that hard and then coach Ryan Day calling the plays. I think those are the two X factors for me. Is Ohio State giving up five sacks Indiana, which is the right thing to happen to them in that game. And then also Ryan, Dave calling plays offensively because we will not have seen the wrinkles that he's going to put in the offensive strategy against Miami until the game is played, which I do think, I think gives them an edge with the heart line going to USF and everything else. So those are my two factors, right?

[D]

I like, I like everything you just said. That's a big reason why I'm taking Ohio State as well as Brian Hartline. Is he with Ohio State right now? I thought I saw a clip of that. He's still in the building, but he's.

[B]

Not going to be the only.

[D]

No, I know that. You know, he's a great Wide receivers coach, he knows the offense. He's. That's a big asset for them to have. I agree with everything you said. I just only think the X factor for Miami is the defensive line. If they have the ability to shrink the game down, then you don't have to worry about Carson Beck possibly. Possibly throwing multiple interceptions. You can just run the ball, dink and dunk, like kind of chop away they did at Texas A and M. But that only happens if Reuben Bain and company can get after it. But because of the Indiana game and them taking five sacks, them waking up to a challenge taking place. Ryan Day with his play calling, you know, respect, man, very creative in his play calling. He's going to have mismatches everywhere. He's going to motion into mismatches. And that's why I believe Julia Julian saying Cardell Tate and Jeremiah Smith are going to have massive days.

[B]

Do you think they'll be aggressive wire to wire, offensively?

[D]

I do.

[B]

So let me paint you a scenario because I think that's the approach they're going to go in the game with. If they're aggressive early, like everyone thinks aggressive play calling and they never assume the risk with aggressive play calling. Like, that's the benefit of being a fan. You just think, oh, what? What could happen? Whereas coaches have to think about what could happen on the other side. What if they're aggressive and they turn the ball over, first drive and they know, hey, we got a good defense, we got a good ground game, we could revert to just grinding this thing out. Do you think they go back into the comfort zone of doing that? Or do you think they still push the pedal down even if things go sideways, open and drive or.

[D]

For sure.

[A]

I think they look at the Michigan game.

[D]

That's what I was just going to say. Like, they give a perfect example of that. The first drive, the first throw of the game, they run out, Jeremiah Smith runs a little curl route, gets picked off, and they still hold him to three.

[C]

True.

[D]

And then they come back and they just put their gas, their foot even more on the pedal, press it even harder. And that is, I think, as much pressure was in that Michigan Ohio State game because of the last four years. And then for to not go back to, hey, let's, you know, take a little off saying, let's run the ball a little bit. They were just as aggressive after that first play, the rest of the game. And I think if they get in that position in the first couple of drives, nothing changes for them.

[A]

And that defense, bro, and Julian Sain.

[D]

Has done such a great job of taking care of the football as well. He's also throwing routes on air, which is, you know, you got two aliens. It's not his fault because they have so much separation, but he's done an amazing job of like taking care of the ball and seeing coverages, not getting.

[A]

You know, Julian Saying is still a stud.

[D]

Stud. Yeah.

[A]

I don't. Starting quarterback for Ohio State, young guy.

[D]

Right.

[A]

He is thrown to aliens.

[D]

Right.

[A]

And we get to talk again. We get to talk about all the offense in the world with every game. A quarterback play, run game, everything else. Who, which team has wide receivers. And it's hard to always prop up and talk highly of a defense. And Ohio State has that defense.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So I love, I love Ohio State.

[D]

And it goes back to every time we breaking down Ohio State's games throughout the year on this show, it's been Matt Patricia and teams have to get into a position of. We have to see what Matt Patricia is going to give us before we can truly have our own game plan.

[B]

Yeah. It terrifies me. They interviewed him yesterday at media days for the Cotton bowl and he laughed during the answer. As he said, we'll probably show some things we haven't seen this year. We'll just have to get to the game to find out what that is. I'm not Carson back, but if I were, that would keep me up about 15 minutes longer tonight than I was going to stay up.

[A]

I mean, the keys are stop the run and take away Tony.

[B]

That's true. That's the wide receiver.

[A]

Take away Tony and then whatever he has creatively going on, Patricia in that defense, I think that that's where again, the game is going to come into the lap of Carson Beck and Kenny show up in the big moment or come back from behind against Ohio State.

[D]

Force him to kick three if they ever get the opportunity to.

[B]

I think Elijah Lofton, tight end from Miami, if they were to win, has to have like a sneaky strong stat line game here.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Because somebody outside of Malachi, Tony, has to step up. I mean, the reason Ohio State's so good is because no one's really going to shut Jeremiah Smith down. But theoretically, if you did, they. They always have two or three other ones that could shoulder the load of a game. Miami, I'm not going to say they don't have that. They haven't had that on paper this year.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

One last thing about the kicker. You were on the field, you understood the wind. I was up in the rafters. I felt the wind as well. Not so much, though. Everyone's going to look at how many kicks the kick the kicker missed in the Texas A and M game, and we're going to go. They're going to go in the same thought processes. You're in a dome. There's no win, nothing. But if he misses that first kick.

[B]

Run him right back out there, buddy.

[D]

The. The mental fortitude will. It'll be bad.

[B]

I'm not saying it'll be good, but.

[D]

If he misses that first or second kick, if they give him the opportunity or given the opportunity to make it into the red zone, because I think Ohio State has that ability to keep you on your side of 50 for 50 minutes of that game. They have that type of potential. If you have him kick in the first quarter and he misses this nine and a half should be a lot bigger.

[B]

You said the most points that Ohio State has given up this year?

[D]

16. Right.

[B]

Do you know what the Miami total point over under just team points here.

[A]

Is on this game?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it 40?

[B]

No, no, no, no. Miami team total just Miami 14 and a half. It's 15 and a half. Where you. You going under on that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think I may go over on it.

[D]

Oh, you're thinking they're gonna and have a biggest offensive showing.

[B]

That means. That means Ohio State winning this thing 24 to 17 gets me a win. It gets me a Miami cover. It gets an Ohio State outright win. I mean, 24 to 17 seems like a plausible route for this game to go.

[D]

I don't like the way that goes because I'm taking Ohio State -9 and a half.

[B]

Just let me ask this also. The winner of this game goes to the Fiesta bowl to face the winner of Georgia versus Ole Miss. What do you think the odds are we get Miami Ole Miss in the semifinals? It seems so remote that it's the kind of thing that you dismiss to the point where you say, man, watch that happen. Watch that end up being the way this goes. And then on the other one, which would be the main event, you know, if Dan Landing and Oregon do come out on top and I'm wrong on the Rose bowl, you do know what that gives us in the. In the semifinals, right? Right down the road in Atlanta, we get son versus father, Dan Lanning versus Big Nettie.

[D]

That's what we need. Those chances of that Ole Miss game.

[B]

Happening low but not zero. But never.

[D]

Probably the same as me getting three fantasy championships in. I gave you the numbers earlier.

[A]

Miami takes down Ohio State clearly right now they're the favorite to win the national title. But if Miami takes down Ohio State, it's wide open. It's wide open.

[B]

Now let me, let me throw one more thing at you. What would happen? Well, let me, Let me back up. The Big Ten this year is viewed universally as the best conference at the top. Right? Which I agree with. So I'm sure. Is it universally, I'm saying pretty universally. Like, I mean, there may be a guy in Tupelo, Mississippi who's just machete across the chest. SEC all the way or your entire live show?

[D]

All the fans of your live show.

[B]

They came at you pretty hard.

[D]

I think they would disagree that the Big Ten at the top is the best.

[B]

You screamed at some of the fans.

[D]

While they were being nasty.

[B]

They were.

[D]

And sometimes you have to raise your. You have to elevate the voice a little bit because so many people want to talk over each other. You just got to get that high pitch. So everyone.

[B]

I was just getting financial advice. You had all kind of obscenities being hurled at you.

[D]

That guy was incredible.

[B]

So, but think about this, all right? So there's always like a possibility that you've just misread the room all year. The possibility is eliminated when you have a ton of cross pollination. Like you have a ton of out of conference versus out of conference. So in the SEC and the acc, we've got a ton of examples of out of conference play to where you felt like you got a pretty good read on the SEC and the ACC, Big Ten and Big 12, there's not a lot of that. But the Big Ten specifically, the best out of conference win for the Big Ten this year was Ohio State over Texas. That's in week one, 14 to 10 in Columbus. The next best out of conference win they had, I think was Illinois over Duke. So you're looking at what you're seeing and you think your eyes are telling you the truth. I'm admitting I think this too. I think Ohio State and Oregon and Indiana at various points this year, maybe even now, may have been better than anything the SEC had to offer. There is always the possibility that you were wrong because there was a very incestuous sort of silo based stat profile. And the way you would know you're wrong is early on, if Miami's doing something to Ohio State you didn't think would happen, maybe even they win. But if it's just a close game, then you turn on the Orange bowl the next morning and Texas Tech's up 13 to nothing, then you Turn on the Rose bowl and Alabama upsets Indiana, and over the span of less than 24 hours, your entire worldview of what the Big Ten was this year could crash in on you. So that's what I'm always careful of, because we don't have enough out of conference games in college football. I wish we had more of them. So you still get to the end of the road sometimes and you just have to think, you know, about these conferences.

[D]

That's a good point.

[B]

You know what I mean, William?

[A]

Yeah, I know what you mean.

[D]

He's sizing it up. He's getting us ready to be like, I told you.

[A]

He's also in an article. We are, too, but he's got some SEC bias. Bias?

[D]

Yep.

[A]

We're both Big Ten guys.

[B]

What did you score? What did you score?

[A]

Plus 20 something.

[B]

What was I. I wasn't as bad as some of them. Some of them?

[A]

You mean you were right next to each other?

[D]

What is. What is this article we're talking about?

[A]

There was a. There's an article. I believe it was from Awful announcing.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And they basically tear. They basically ranked all the bias in.

[B]

Perceived bias.

[A]

Perceived bias in college media.

[D]

Higher numbers, worse or better.

[A]

Higher numbers are higher. Numbers are worse. Like they had. They had. They had like an unbiased list that was like from what, 0 to 5 or something like that. Like, say they have a point bias or something, or no bias at all.

[B]

Fine. Bomb was number one, I think. Wasn't he number one, like 90 bias? No, no, no, no. With most bias, like plus 90% SEC bias.

[A]

Right.

[D]

And you guys were both 20. What was I.

[A]

You were like 37.

[D]

I'll take that number.

[A]

Big 10. You're like 37. Big 10. I think I was like 20, mid 20s or. I was something like that. Big 10. And then Peyton was right below me. I was 29. Josh was 27.

[D]

What was I?

[B]

Taylor, you were 30.

[D]

37. I'll take 37.

[B]

And he was pro big 10 pro big 10, pro SEC.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's a great balance to the show.

[B]

And there was no negative, like, negative G5. They didn't even do that right.

[A]

HG5.

[D]

Dude, I'm fired up for these games.

[B]

It's going to be a big weekend.

[D]

Is this separation? There's two games.

[B]

I took a total in the quarterfinals. I don't even know what I'm doing.

[D]

I know what I'm doing. As soon as the show's over. He's got over the rushing yards.

[A]

Yeah. And he's got Miami to cover against all state.

[B]

I sure did.

[A]

And he snuck in some props there.

[D]

I know.

[A]

Stuck in some good.

[D]

You saw it coming from a mile away, though. We're sitting over on the other side and he's like, do you guys do props? You can if you want.

[B]

I want to see what this is on before Oregon rushing yards is now dropped in 140.

[A]

Oh, so you need a. You need a push.

[B]

Bad paint Joey Maguire.

[A]

They're saying Joey McGuire's letter got out. Yeah, they're saying we're fading bait.

[B]

Interesting.

[D]

I like that.

[A]

All right, good luck to everybody. We will see you guys next week. Good luck to you both. Good luck to you both. Happy New Year.

[D]

Happy New year.

[A]

God bless.

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[B]

And we want everyone to feel welcomed and rewarded. It matters, matters that CVS is here to fill your prescriptions and here to.

[D]

Fill your craving for a tasty and, yeah, healthy snack. At cvs, we're proud to serve your.

[B]

Community because we believe where you get your medicine matters.

[D]

So Visit [e-mail] or just come by our store.

[B]

We can't wait to meet you.

[D]

Store hours vary by location.

[B]

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