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Bussin' With The Boys
Josh Pate Rides Texas OVER Ohio State, Taylor Lewan Backs LSU & Will Compton RIDES Nebraska
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the college football season. You've waited, you've done the farmer's markets, you've done the art class, you've done everything your significant other wants you to do. Now is your time. Thursday we got games. Friday we got games. Saturdays we got games. And Sunday we got games. This is the locker room. You have earned the opportunity to watch the show, to gamble on this show with myself, Will Compton, and the commissioner himself, Josh Pay. Do me a favor. We got a sub, we got a comment. We got a sub, we got to comment. Those things help us just keep this train rolling and get the higher heights also. Dude, I've said it already. Enjoy this moment. This is the longest week of our entire lives. This weekend will probably be the fastest of your entire lives. Let's have a hell of a day. This is the locker room, episode one of the college football season.
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This is an iHeart podcast.
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Thank you, fanduel.
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Thank you, fanduel. Thank you, fanduel, and also thank you to the audience. Last week we said, if you like the show, simply subscribe to the boys. On the locker room alone, we gained over a thousand subscribers, which is massive for the brand, massive for the boys. If you love the boys and you love the locker room, just subscribe again because if you're watching a second time, then you like what you see. Yeah, you like this pretty bald head up here.
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You don't have to pay for it.
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Beautiful mustache. But fellas, how we feeling?
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Feel like a million domestic.
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Dude.
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This has been, I think this is the first year where the dust has settled. My first year being a fan of football. Josh, you don't know this. I won a national championship with my team. Yeah, that was like my first year kind of diving into college sports. Now a year has gone. I had a year of turmoil where we couldn't pass the ball at all.
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Alright.
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The only team we passed more than were like military schools. Now I'm in this excitement. I got Bryce Underwood. I got a full slate of games that I'm excited For this is my, I think, the first time in my life that I've been like, I cannot wait for the football season. I called JP On Tuesday to talk about South Carolina, and we're both in agreement that this is the longest week of the entire year.
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Yeah. I can't believe I'm looking at these games in my hand right here. Because sometimes in August, you'll find this. As your fandom goes on and you mature, you'll find that sometimes you get to the Week one countdown and you say, I feel like this one kind of snuck up on us a little bit. I feel like not a lot's being said about this team, that team you mentioned, South Carolina. I've heard 30 different takes on Lenora Sellers. I've heard people talk about Shane Beamer and whether he can backload defensive talent for. It feels like a year. I feel like we have very, very much saturated the preseason talk and we'll do a little bit more right now. Yeah, yeah. It's the energy.
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Do you feel like that same thing has happened with Oklahoma?
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With me? It has. So I was doing radio last week and I'm trying to figure out, because they're asking me, hey, give us an under the radar team. I've been on them for, like, half a year. I've been on Mattier. Like, I know him better than his parents do. So to me, they're not under the radar. But I got to think, are these folks just now talking, like, if I'm doing radio in Dallas, are they just now talking college football? Because if they are, they're going to think this dude's insane. Thinks Oklahoma could be a top ten team. That's insane. So maybe depends on how in the weeds you've been.
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Because it seemed like in like, March, everyone was like, oklahoma was bad last year. They're gonna be bad this year. Then this Mattier guy transfers him. And then in the last, like, month and a half, like, Mattier is going to be a Heisman candidate. He's the guy. Blah, blah. Oklahoma's back. Jackson, Arnold, he's gone. Like, they just seem like everyone's now fully on the Oklahoma train.
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Yeah. And then they did that with Florida State last year. And then what happened? Like this. Just to let people know how to watch the show, to let us know how to talk about the show. It was this week last year where I turn on game day and I'm high on Florida State. Everyone's high on Florida State. And I listen to Nick Saban, who I regard as maybe the best judge of talent out there, he says. I just went to practice. I watched Florida State. That, that looks like the best personnel I see in the acc. They're going to win the acc. Dive bomb crater into the side of the mountain. No one knows anything.
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No one knows anything.
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That's the best part.
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No one knows anything.
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Because you were saying before you think you see the board clearly today.
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I will say nobody sees anything, but nobody seeing the field as clearly as Willie C. Is this week. Yeah, I've been doing some deep dives.
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Deep dives.
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Some deep dives on these teams just to give people a little teaser. You guys see your boy decked out in Nebraska gear? We're going to be talking Nebraska Cincinnati Thursday night. We're a for the, for the haters in the comments to say we don't touch the Big 12. Outside of Taylor's monologue with Arizona State, Josh Payton, he's an SEC homer. We're talking Big 12 this week. And by Big 12, we're talking Baylor, Auburn. Yes, that's an SEC team. We're talking Alabama, Florida State, Notre Dame, Miami. The convicts. The Catholics vs. Convicts rivalry is kicking off our college football season. Virginia Tech, South Carolina. Who am I missing? Lsu, Clemson, and then the the main event of the evening, Ohio State, Texas. Which, by the way, there's a lot of noise around Ohio State right now.
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Wow.
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Big noon kickoff. Dave Portnoy banned from Ohio State. Yeah, I'm also reading that Dave Portnoy is not going to any of the Big Ten schools. I feel like it's a massive wrench in the plan for Fox. Fox is also in a debate with YouTube TV.
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I'm asking the Auburn, Baylor games on Friday night. That's on Fox, right?
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Yeah.
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I have a working theory that could already be shot to death by the time this is uploaded that they're going to use that game as leverage and they're going to let that game go dark. And if you're on YouTube TV looking for Auburn, Baylor, apologies to certain people standing behind me Friday night, you don't see that one. Then there's outrage, torches and pitchforks everywhere and they get it settled just in time for Ohio State Texas Saturday. But I think Auburn and Baylor may have to suffer. At which point the committee asks come Selection Sunday, if Baylor's had a 10 and two season, if we didn't see the Baylor game in week one, can we really judge Baylor on that game in week one? Who knows, man? YouTube TV could keep Baylor.
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How would you judge it, future college football commissioner? How would you view that game if it wasn't on tv.
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Don't you have to have multiple viewing options? Don't you have to have a buddy? Don't you have to have a backup plan? You've had six months. Don't you have to have at least some kind of dude who knows the Internet and the inner workings of it enough to get you a pirated stream? That's not something we advocate for on this channel.
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We. We advocate for responsible.
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Absolutely.
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Responsible gaming, responsible viewing, everything.
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Yeah.
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Got to have it.
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Yeah. I'm worried about it, though.
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Should we dive in?
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Yes.
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Do we.
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Do we want to quickly dive into the Dave Portnoy saga and the Ryan Day or we want to leave that alone?
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We can dive into it.
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We want. Because I got a little. I get a little nervous because you and I, we're trying to go to Texas, Ohio State this weekend.
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Yeah. The boys are trying to go. Listen, the. The main event of the evening. There's been one clearance college game day. Big noon kickoff, Fall Don't Lie Tour.
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Yeah.
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The boys of fall are the bus and boys going to be able to get in this game? We don't know.
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I know 50% has already been approved. Real content we put in to go to big noon kickoff. You keep saying in the main event of the evening, this is at noon. This game is at noon. We. We sent in myself, Will Compton, JP Hovey, Jack McPherson. We want. We want to go to this game. You get approved immediately. The three of us are kind of sitting in the rafters. I think there's something that might happen where I don't know how much noise Ryan Day allows to creep into his office. You kind of alluded to it before the show started. I'm worried if he does allow the noise to creep in a little bit, even though he is a friend of the show because he's been on. We had a good time.
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Friend of the show.
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He's a friend of the show. I have said nasty things and I think there's a situation where Will, JP and Jack are getting on a plane Saturday morning, early morning, and I'm back at home hoping, God, the YouTube TV, Fox rights get dialed in so I can watch the game.
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Don't you think? A little bit. Let me ask you this. Do you think you'd be the same way if you were him?
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No.
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You don't think you'd be the same way? So I, I can't disagree with you. You know you better than me. I think a lot of the folks out there saying, man, Ryan Day soft Ohio State soft. I think if I put them in a similar situation and they were to have just gone through, you know, watching their neighbor to the north get investigated, and then they watched their main media partner hire a guy who is on record as calling him crying day 10 days out of the week. I would look at it and I could say, I can't do anything to take that guy off air. I'm a little unhappy my media partner hired him. The one thing in my control is at least I control access to our building. I think I may be that small. I think I would actually go that route.
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You think you would.
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So I haven't called him soft because I actually think it would aggravate me enough to where I'd say to my Sid or I would say to my director of football operations, screw that guy. I'm not letting him in here. But then I also think it's fair on the other side. Like, Fox has got to make a move. Fox has got to counter what's happening on the other program. You got Lee Corso's last day, and you've also got McAfee doing what he's doing on the other network. So you had to make a move. I just think a lot of times people get tied up into. This is the football business. This is the. It's the entertainment business. You get paid eight figures per year because you're in the entertainment business. That's why you make more than the lacrosse coach makes. So a little bit of the trade off is, yeah, you're all about X's nos. You kind of have to deal with stuff in that bubble every now and then. So I actually got no problem with what Dave says about him. I got no problem with the measures they've taken. It's just fun to talk about. To me, fare both ways.
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To me, you brought up the entertainment. You're in the entertainment industry as a head coach. Like, allowing people into the building. There is a path where Ryan Day can go and have fun with Dave Portnoy instead of making Dave Portnoy an enemy.
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Unless in his mind, he just personally hates him. Like, he might. You know, he might just have the. We were talking about before, like an assistant or somebody come up, give him the information of what's going on in the Internet, and Ryan Day could simply just be like, yeah, I don't like this guy. Keep him out of the. Keep him out of the stadium. Then get. And then go on about his business in football. There's evidence out there that says he's got his pulse. On everything.
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Yeah. The evidence is Notre Dame, Ohio State and South Bend when they get the fourth and goal, I can't. Did they score? They not. So they score because there's 10 minutes.
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Ohio State scored and Notre Dame had nine players on.
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Hard, hard fought game. Hard fought game. And he's so focused on Lou Holtz. Then the, the flag gets planted after Michigan wins 13 to 10. And they're so caught up in that that they're even taking away from their own national championship. And now this. It's like, I understand you want to like keep the noise out of your building, but this is not the way. You're just adding more noise on the outside.
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Maybe it's a boulder on his shoulder, man. Maybe he just creates those ships. And he might be thinking about it, he might not be solely focused on it, but I could see the other way like for myself. Once you, they. Once Dave gets suspended, it's like if I was a head coach, Ohio State, I could see myself just posting a selfie with just a shit eating grin and be like, yeah, you guys know it was me. I don't give a fuck.
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Right. And that's funny. Yeah. Ryan Dave did that. Right? Now I would wipe my hands and.
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Be like, that's a good. Or publicly say. Or publicly do something to where. Hey, Dave, you, you can come in. The only way you can come in is if you take a picture with me midfield with the national title trophy.
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Yeah. Or all these people that come in, the media, they have to wear some sort of Ohio State thing. Like if you're going to be here, you're going to report hallowed grounds at the shoe.
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I saw another good idea where it's like you set up their set because they're inside the stadium, but you set their setup to where the national championship, the banner and everything else framed up, framed behind them the whole time and just have them run the show that way. But I think there's fun ways to troll.
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Yeah. And if I'm Fox, I'm putting Dave, Dave just outside the building, like literally one foot away from the distance he's not allowed to walk into. And just having like a sideline reporter type of vibe.
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See, I think it's a, it's a lot more personal to Fox. To me with them. It's a lot more personal to Fox because they're sitting there having to play all their big games at noon. Big noon. Kick off the name of the game, actually. And I think it's worn on them. Like it's. Yeah, they get a ton of money for it. Like the big tens and a meteorites deal with Fox. And so they're already rubbed the wrong way by that. Yeah. Like, so you don't get to complain.
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Now it's going beyond Ohio State to where it's saying that he can't go into the Big Ten stadiums, which they.
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Tried to pass off as protocol, which absolutely was not protocol until about 48 hours ago.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's on fire in that office right now because they got to appease. It's like they. Yeah, they want to operate, have Dave. They're trying to compete with ESPN and stuff, but they got to appease their biggest media rights partner in the Big Ten. Big Ten saying, no, this is where we're standing on it.
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I'm just going to say this is supposed to be all about Lee Corso this week. It's supposed to be about him making a last headgear pick. I have not heard anyone speak about it. All week. It's been all about Fox. It's been all about big news, been all about Portnoy, been all about Ohio State. So it's more guerrilla warfare, but I think it's been successful.
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No, publicity is bad publicity. And the thing that fixes everything, winning.
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Kickoff in this case, fixes everything.
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What game do we want to start with?
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Huskers.
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That's the main event of the evening. Like, that's. Do you want to do that now, Huskers?
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Yeah, yeah. Why not?
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Thursday?
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It's Thursday night. This game kicks off tomorrow. This is the first game of week one.
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Where is the. We have a little talking point. Is that it?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want me to hit you?
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You want to?
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Well, it says Taylor and then it says Will, then it says Taylor.
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Okay.
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You want me to. Yeah. I don't know where the card is.
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Ryan's like, you can borrow my card and then hand it back to me.
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Okay. Hey, guys, by the way, the boys are hitting the road. We're tackling a little trip at Arrowhead Stadium to witness wills Nebraska Cornhuskers face Cincinnati Bearcats. Of course, we're locked and loaded with our pick. We are rolling with our boy Will Compton. We'll let to get. We'll get to his pick in a minute. But Fanduel said. You know what? Let's make it interesting. Will, this is your card now.
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Yes, sir. Fanduel is giving every cent single customer a massive 50% profit boost. No matter what side you pick. You could tail the boys and go Nebraska. You could tail the boys and go Nebraska for a 50% profit boost or completely go against this and roll with Cincinnati. One way or another, someone's walking away with a little extra bread.
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Oh, it's back to me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay, okay. Whether you're back in the Corn hustlers with us or you think you've got it wrong and you're ready to fade, head over to FanDuel Sportsbook app right now. Grab a 50% profit boost for Nebraska versus Cincinnat. Will, the stage is yours.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you guys agree. This has got Huskers written all over it. This is a big year. Just look at the optics. Stick with me here for a second. Joshua. Just look at the optics.
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Didn't say a word of this week.
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That's like a Will Comptonism lately. Stick with me. Listen to me.
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Listen to me.
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Shut up.
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Listen to me.
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That's what my daughter does to me at home. No, dad, I'm talking. Listen to me. Fair. I'm like, okay, all right. But just look at the optics. This entire week, what superstars played at Cincinnati?
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Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelsey.
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Jason Kelsey, Travis Kelsey. Where are we playing at? We're playing at Arrowhead. What do you do to distract the public from this ass whooping that's coming at Arrowhead on Thursday night?
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Travis Kelsey, coin flip.
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You proposed to Taylor Swift.
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Yeah. Pretty selfish.
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And make it about something completely different, to act like this game's not even going to happen. We all know the optimism that's out there with Willie C. Nebraska. I'm well aware that we are the. We have the most. We have the. The longest active streak of the comment. This is our year. I'm not dumb into knowing that about us. I think that this year is actually our year. This year, you got Matt Rule in year three. Everybody talks about the process of Matt Rule. It's always year three. Joshua talks about it on his show. This is the formula. Matt Rule in year three is when it starts to shake. Dylan Raiola. Year two with Dana Holgerson. JP Knows Dana Holgerson. He's got the headset on the sideline for a full year under his belt. This is his team this year. Not in the middle of the year. This year, full offseason. You got Emmett Johnson, who was running the rock and averaging over 5 yards of carry toward the back end of last year. We need him to stay healthy now. We do need Emmett Johnson to stay healthy because we have a young running back room. Our O line is beefy beefy. That Rocco boy coming from Notre Dame. We Got some size on the O line. We got guys on the outside. Dan Keefe from Kentucky. Is it Naziah close?
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Close enough, yeah. Just keep rolling. You're flowing.
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Naziah Hunter, transfer out of Cal. We got weapons on the outside. Jacorey Barney, one of the most electric returners in all of college football. He's in the slot, shaking it up. Defensively, we have a younger deep. We have a veteran secondary. We got a young defensive line who I'm excited to see who's going to stand out on the defensive line. Guys are high on this young Williams kid. He's a freshman that's going to be playing. He's a black shirt. I love the Huskers. You guys know I'm going the Huskers. This is minus six and a half. I don't know why it hasn't moved up. I don't know why it's not minus 13 and a half. But I'm taking the Huskers. I am a little nervous about Sorsby, quarterback from Cincinnati, little dual threat. Cat can always. Any dual threat. Quarterback danger, slinging a little bit. They can always cause a little trouble. But I love the Huskers this weekend.
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Huskers, Scott Satterfield.
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Oscars.
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Scott. Scott Satterfield's just sitting there. Third year, I think, at Cincinnati. Line looks so weird. I agree with you. Line looks so weird. I have polled the entire public, haven't found a single Cincinnati better, but they got to be out there at FanDuel somewhere. If we could see under the hood, FanDuel could probably tell us. Yeah, a few people. A couple of. One in. One in Des Moines, one in Fresno. They bet. They bet Cincinnati. I am kind of worried that what we are getting sucked into, you know, the Nebraska contingent of the greater Nashville area, is that we're taking our season predictions and we're kind of projecting it onto the game because this is a game, it's not a season. So they could win by three. Saturday or Thursday or whenever it is. It is a night game, though, and they could technically come through. But then Cincinnati gets the back door like Vulture cover and so we're out money. But they're still one. And, oh, I think veteran dual threat quarterback Tony white. Gone is D.C. so, like, you're trying to plug and play there a little bit younger D. But like you said, secondary should be good. I think you may end up needing to outscore them, at which point the most underrated part of this Nebraska roster comes through, and that's the wide receiver room. Because outside of you no one's talking about Nebraska wide receivers. And I think the Nebraska wide receiver room, even if Cincy has an uncomfortable number, 24, 27 on the board, I think Nebraska can find 34. So I like Nebraska to win it and cover.
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I like all the things both of you guys said.
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Talk to him. Josh.
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One, one thing I disagree with is this is not a game. This is the season. This is every. Every. Like since Matt Rule came here. Since Matt Rule came here, it's been like, don't worry about year one. Don't even look at year two. Year three is the time it's going to happen.
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You're going to say, must win.
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Quarterback that ends up flipping this game.
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Must win.
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It's a must win. It's a must win game for the Huskers. If we're going to set the tone. And I have to sit on a fucking bus every single year and hear the same comment of this is our year a couple years ago is the best 3, 9 team of all time. Last. Last year you would have thought the what was the Big Mower Bad Mower bowl was the national championship because we.
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Lost a lot of very close games on the back half of the season. What I'm saying is when we were.
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In position, I really think it's that I'm Huskers.
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Yep.
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I think minus six and a half is disrespectful. And it's me wondering, what do they know in Vegas that we don't know? What does fandom know that we don't know?
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What do we know that they don't know?
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They must cover over 13 and a half here. I think this is a year. This is a statement game for Nebraska. This is Raiola's coming out party. This is when the Nebraska corner score fans finally go to put their hat up at night and they finally have something to hang it on. It's like we, we are fucking here.
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So after.
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You know what this show's got that Vegas doesn't have? What you're looking at him.
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Yeah.
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This brain right here that's seeing the field is clear as day right now, buddy.
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I would love to like, I would love to have this, but this happens and every single year. Every single year.
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No, no.
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The casual bus and fake can come and pop on, but that's hilarious. That's all Wills. He really is bought in. I've seen it. I've been around it. I've lived it. You're my best friend. I see it every single day. Every single day. In the fall Hustlers get brought up. This is the reason why it's different this week. This is the reason why it's different this year. I agree with you this year.
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Every year has been different.
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Need Cincinnati. I'm sorry. I need Nebraska to prove it. I need it.
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Every year's been different. I wasn't singing 102 college playoff last year, was I?
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I think you said 120 in March. I think you said 120 the March before that. Every year we look at and you go, but, you know, it's crazy to think we can't win the Big Ten this year.
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You know, I'm feeling a little different this year.
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You know that.
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You know that. If you know me as well as you say, you know, there's just a different feeling.
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I understand. Because there's. There's a real expectation out there. It's not like a hope. It's a real, like, oh, this is something you can grab, taste and feel. You can put your senses on the Nebraska musculars this year.
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If I can just.
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I'm with it.
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If I could just insert.
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Please, Josh.
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If I could just insert something here. The difference this year is that I believe it. Oh, that's the difference this year.
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Having said that, that's the haters out there in the comments.
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Yeah, we believe Will is a bunch of papers. Right? A gust of wind comes. They start from. You're the paperweight that's going to hold it down from this pick.
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But how about. How about must win on a Thursday night? Just the must win label thrown on Satterfield Rule. Do you want to go alt line? You know, you can go alt line on this. You lay nine and a half. You can lay ten.
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I'll listen. I will responsibly and personally put in my bet, which I will be moving the line. But for the fans out there, we want to advocate for responsibility.
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Smart. It is Thursday of week one.
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It is Thursday of week one.
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I mean, Rule's got a podcast. He's got all these transfer portal guys. He's got year. Everyone's saying year three met rule, year three.
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You feel it. Out of the 40 out of the 44 of the two deep over half is underclassmen. The development and the process is coming into play. Guys are making. Guys are going to get their number called on Saturday. You look at that depth chart, there's a lot of oars that sit around because there's going to be rotations. Nebraska's got a little bit of depth right now.
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A
Here's what I want to see more than anything. The Third quarter ends, fourth quarter starts. The offense. Nebraska's offense is coming on the field. Raiola is not on there.
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B
Yeah, that's how much you guys are up, comfortable.
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A
That's what I want.
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C
Would love to see that.
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A
That's when I would sit there, wherever you and I are sitting, because I know the NFL has rerues what they're saying. We'll probably be sitting in a box somewhere and I'll look at you.
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C
Fanduel's box.
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A
Fanduel's box. I put my hand on your knee and I go, you've done it. Like, this is. This is something we can look at. And on Monday we could be like, this is a real team.
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C
Just, I'll be smiling at you. So you'll see it anyway. But the. The internal part of me, the compliment, the sentence.
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B
I would love to hear the endorsement.
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C
Is, you guys look pretty good.
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B
Nothing better.
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C
That's what I want to walk away. Because if you are a backdoor cover or it's a tight game, like, yeah, but I'm thinking the entire butt home.
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A
Exactly.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And God forbid, like, if Nebraska doesn't cover.
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B
Don't talk like that.
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C
Don't talk like that.
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A
Right. But this is a show that people are watching. There's probably 13 Cincinnati fans that are probably tuning into the show right now, wondering if they're stuff or not.
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C
The majority, 90, probably. Like, when are they going to get to the next game?
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A
We know Will's going Huskers, I think. I mean, I don't think there was. Were you ever not going to go Huskers in this game?
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B
There was. There was a time where I was driving over this morning that I sought out the alternative point of view because I legit wanted to know. I called a couple of buddies like, you're betting Cincy?
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A
Why?
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B
And they talked me through it and I said, respectfully, you're wrong. So, no, I was never coming off Nebraska.
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A
The same guy that picked Iowa State last week.
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B
Huh? That's true. I'm just saying there's a large portion of the viewing contingent that may watch this Friday when the game's already happened. Imagine that world. Imagine how we look one way or the other to the Friday crowd.
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A
Yeah, that's the best thing. Looking like geniuses are looking like, for the most part, idiots.
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B
Because that's when the comments come in, when someone has the benefit of hindsight on their side.
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A
That's when the flood starts. And it's usually naked.
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C
It's easy, though. We'll be easy to go from the Nosebleeds.
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B
Yeah, we'll be all right.
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C
LSU at Clemson. Number nine, verse, number four, lsu. Clemson is favored by three and a half. The over under on this game is 57 and a half. I feel like they're, you know, I feel like there's a couple different sides in this, in this conversation.
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B
Yeah, there might be at least two.
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A
Yeah, there might be. You listen. Clemson dabo's been there since 2008. They've got a lot of their returning starters happening. Their entire offensive line comes back. They got a nasty defense with a lot of depth. They got T.J. parker and Peter Woods, a couple guys that can wreak some havoc on the defensive line. They. You look at this and you say, well, LSU's lost. They haven't won a home opener since 2019. Brian Kelly's 03 in his home openers. You look at the history and you would say this is a game that looks like it's going to go Clemson, especially in Death Valley.
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C
You talked about a lot of great points that say Clemson.
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A
I know that. That's what I'm. That's what I'm getting at. Now we start to flip the script a little bit. We talk about Garrett Nussmile. This cat is. He is a guy that was NFL, the most NFL ready college quarterback. Every year he tends to get a little bit better and better. He's a guy from Louisiana. He bleeds, you know, the. What is it? Purple and gold? Bleeds purple and gold. They go out, they get Byron Brown from Kentucky and Nick Anderson from Oklahoma. They look at their defense. It was abysmal two years ago. Last year they get a little bit better now. They finally got West Weeks back who had an ankle injury.
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C
Love those Weeks brothers.
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A
Weeks brothers.
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C
White linebackers got a couple transfers.
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A
They got two DN transfers, one from Florida State, one from Florida. But the big one here is Harold Perkins. Harold Perkins Jr. He's now wearing number seven for LSU. He's a cat that can roll around and cause crazy havoc. He tore his ACL versus UCLA last year. This is the year that Brian Kelly has to get over the hump. We talked about it in our futures, how they're like sitting in that third, fourth and FanDuel's future about winning the SEC. Something's got to give Brian Kelly his personality and LSU's culture. Personality. They don't necessarily mix. This is the year we're going to find out if he's the guy for the job. I think this year they flip the script. I think they go in to Clemson, they finally get that monkey off their back about winning or losing their first game. I liked LSU here I could. I mean, the biggest question mark to me is LSU's offensive line. They lose two guys to the draft, one guy goes fourth overall, their left tackle to the Patriots. But at the end of the day, I think the star power, I think that what they did, the transfer portal after Bryce Underwood decommitted from LSU and went to Michigan, a lot of money started flying into lsu. We got to figure out the guys we're going to get. I think this is the year that LSU flips it.
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B
Deep breath.
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C
So just give it like a Lee Corso ism to him.
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B
Well, the first thing I will inform you is you mentioned Harold Perkins. Are you aware of what they're doing positionally with him?
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A
He's. He's like the honey badger a little bit, right?
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B
Yeah. Except that he's twice his size. And so they're playing him at like a star type position. So you may see Harold Perkins do some wild stuff this year. And against Clemson, you mentioned the offensive line. Completely agree with you. This is the fundamental disagreement I've had with LSU fans. I put him at 8 and 4 and you know, that's of course crazy. And I'm told that it's crazy because they portaled in a new secondary, which I'll get to in a second, but that their offensive line is going to be okay. Okay. If their offensive line's okay, we don't have to wait. They don't play three tune up games, so they're going into one of the toughest environments they'll play in all year. I don't believe they're settled yet. So to be very clear, my pick is based on the fact that I don't know that they'll have any semblance of balance Saturday night because they didn't run the ball well last year. Joe Brady, I actually love the dude, but he is not called an offense where the rushing statistics were outside the 1002s. And that's an unfair position to put Garrett Nussmeier in. Like my whole question, I wrote it down, this piece of paper. What does LSU require Garrett Nussmeier to do? Because if they require him to perform well, first and 10, second five, third and two and they stay on schedule and he's looking to check down and he's got a complimentary tail backed hand him in the backfield and he's just asked to make good decisions. He can do that. What he can't do is third and Seven all night. And that's what they asked him to do too much last year. So he had I think 12 picks last year. So I look at that and I say if I don't fully believe in the offensive line yet. And I do think Clemson's got NFL guys, all three levels. Eileen, Clemson. My one hang up with Clemson is last year top 20 explosive offense. They had nine games where they had five plus explosive plays. But it didn't happen against the SEC teams. In the three games against SEC teams, they were 14 of 40 on third down. So if they get past that, like if they're, if they're really improved and they do got a wide receiver stable that I appreciate and I respect. If they do have that, I think over four quarters they affect Nussmeyer enough to where they force the mistakes that LSU has been so prone to in openers. Haven't won an opener period since 2019. I think that's going to continue here. So I'm taking Clemson actually laying the three and a half.
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C
I'm Clemson. I'm Clemson. You guys have talked about the O line. It's like they lose four guys on their offensive line. Last year wasn't that great of an O line. You got two guys, guys that get drafted and it's like this is an O line. Last year, the talent that they had that they should have been in a conversation for like the Joe Moore award type of talent. This year you've already mentioned the two guys, TJ Parker and Peter Woods. Peter woods is like a projected top 10 pick as a D tackle. You got TJ Parker, first round protection, coming off the edge, projection coming off the edge. And you look at LSU's line, they have two sophomores, a freshman and two transfers going against a veteran group in Clemson. They got, they're returning basically everybody on offense. I like Klub Nick more than I do Nussmeyer. I like Dabo more than I do Brian Kelly. And it's like the difference with me of like, is LSU gonna show up this year versus you know, the formula is there for Clemson. It's like there's this saying, if you like something, you pick it. If you love something, you water it. I feel like at LSU they've been trying to fill holes with picking transfers and everything else. You look at Clemson Dabo, he was getting punished for it a couple years back of not really utilizing the portal. He's grown his entire team and they bring back everybody this year. Yes, I think they're in a weak conference with the acc, but I do Think they beat teams like lsu. I think they're very good this year. I think Klubnick's going to be really good this year. I like the talent that they have. You alluded to their wide receivers. They got it like a three headed monster. They have all the pieces. They have a very good defensive unit and I think they, I think they take Clemson or I think they take LSU down in Clemson. Your boy is going Clemson. He's going Clemson two on one. Think, think about the O line, bro. Think about like you got.
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A
No, I'm with. I wrote down on my piece paper. The question mark is the offensive line handle the veteran, veteran defensive line of Clemson.
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B
Imagine trying to figure that out on.
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C
The road and you just like you put yourself in them rooms like you're confident, you're trying to instill confidence. Like maybe it's coming from one of the transfers, maybe it's a second year sophomore guy that's trying to instill a little bit of confidence. But there's, there's a couple in there that know the TJ Parker, the D tackle that I alluded to, like those freaks of nature. You got Sammy woods at the second level. Like they have elite type players that are going to fuck up this young offensive line especially I think in the second half. So that's why I got, I just think the mentality there. The boys show up on Clemson. We interrupt this episode to bring you Form Energy. Form Energy delivers best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeine derived from green tea and they come in a variety of flavors. Your boy is holding Screamin Freedom right now. There's a Screamin Eagle roller coaster at the St. Louis Six Flags if you ever want to check it out. There's Grape Smash, Blue Blitz, Orange Fury, and it's perfect for those who put in the work. Form Energy. We do the work. The boys do the work. This show does the work. Back to this episode.
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A
Notre Dame at Miami.
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B
Josh let you have the floor, man. This is a Sunday night game, so it's standalone, so the whole world gets to see it. I think there's going to be a lot of focus on quarterback for both sides. You got Carson Beck like I always picture. A lot of people are going to watch this. Some people are just coming back to the college football table. They've been gone since January and they're probably going to be surprised to learn Carson Beck plays from Miami. Now, you were asking me earlier today, we were talking about Nussmeier and you were saying, hey, Give me an example of a guy who was expected to just continue to elevate and it flatline. Carson Beck, that's a really good one. This time last year, he's sure of our first round pick. Heisman favorite at Georgia, favorite to win the national title. None of that happens. He's gone. So you got a good redemption story potentially set up here. He's got probably the best offensive coordinator in the acc, I think in Shannon Dawson, trying to replace their top half dozen pass catchers at Miami. So that's not how they win this game. The way they win this game is they have recruited and developed monsters on the offensive line for three years now. They've got multiple NFL guys across the front. I went down there and watched them practice last year. Everyone's talking about Francis Malagoa and Mario says, look at this dude over here, 70. It's Markel Bell. He came from Juco in Mississippi. He's like 68360 at that point. Said you'll know him next year. And sure enough he's projected to be. I think they're starting to left tackle this year. My point is for all the attrition from 50,000ft, I'm looking specifically at Notre Dame's defensive front. If there's a solid edge that Miami has here, which I think they do over four quarters, it is running between the tackles. Tail as old as time. Mark Fletcher, Jordan Lyle, specifically Fletcher are a couple of guys at tailback that if Miami wins, that's the name you circle. That's the one that ended up being ridden for 25, 26 carries, 208 yards, something like that. You think, man, that's against Notre Dame. Yeah, I know it's eye opening, but that that's what's going to have to happen because at that point if you do that, I can more than trust Carson Beck to make good decisions complementary to a ground game. He didn't have a ground game at Georgia last year. He didn't have guys catching the ball for him last year. So it's not like he forgot how to play the position if he gets that. And then conversely you've got a first time starter going on the road in C.J. carr. I think Notre Dame's receiving room is incredibly underrated. I don't know that its potential will be reached here because the other thing about Miami secondary is it sucked last year so bad that they completely overhauled it. Talked to someone down there last week, they said we low key think this could be a strength of our team this year. So we feel plenty good enough about it to go to war with it. I think Miami's going to win the game outright, but that's what a coach.
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C
Would tell you about the secondary.
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B
Luckily, no coaches.
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A
You're not going to walk into a coach's office.
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B
Luckily. Yeah, you're right. That's why I don't talk to coaches about it.
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A
So you like the idea of Miami having an overhaul of transfers into their secondary and be like, okay, that's going to gel. But you look at LSU and their transfer portal and how much they've done, and you're like, I'm not so sold on that.
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B
Well, the difference is I'm looking at CJ Carr trying to throw against Miami's guys on the road versus looking at Cade Klubnick throwing against LSU's guys at home. So there's a little different gap in experience level there.
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C
Different gap. But CJ Carr has been throwing against the number one pass defense in the country coming out of 2020 24. CJ Carr has been throwing against the Number One defense when it comes to takeaways in 2024. I like Notre Dame here. This is my iPad game.
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B
Oh, wow.
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C
This is my iPad game. Because Miami, to me, you get excited about Miami because number one, it's Miami. You got the U. You got the documentaries that have come out. They've gotten a little better each year, but again, they were the number one offense in the country last year. But the majority, a lot of that offense is now here in Nashville, Tennessee with Cam Ward. And we think all of a sudden Carson Beck is going to be the guy that gets them over the hump. I agree with you on the O line. They returned four out of their five guys. They got this, this cat from Holmes Community College.
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B
Markel Bell, Markel Belhi.
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C
69340 unit built like a submarine. But Miami's been the team. Miami's been the team where it's like, you know, you know how you got the, the dog that barks at the gate, but the minute you step in the gate, they don't bite you.
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B
Oh, wow.
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C
I feel like that's what Miami has been because they have talent. I don't doubt that they're going to have talent at the skill position. It's Miami. They're always going to have talent. But I think when you compare both the offense of Miami compared to the offense of Notre Dame, what I also like about Notre Dame, what is something that they did really well and was top 10 in the country last year running the football they returned four guys that have starting experience on that O line. The new face is at right guard. Not on the edge, not a tackle. It's a right guard and it's a freshman.
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A
Keep him in a phone booth.
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C
Yeah, it's a freshman. Name, gerby Leonard. He's 6. This boy is 6, 7 3, 35 at right guard going on this offensive line that can run the football really well. And you already alluded to how good and criminally underrated their wide receiver unit is. And you got your Heisman favorite, Jeremiah Love running the ball to the backfield. And this is a steady operation. This isn't. You know, we've hit the portal. One of the fancy words that come out of every year now with all these different teams is we've revamped the room, we've overhauled the room. Notre Dame. These are top 5 recruiting classes year in and year out. Because it starts with Marcus Freeman and the operation he's built since he got announced as a head coach in that weight room. And everybody went absolutely berserk. Then you go on defense again. The number one pass defense in the country last year they returned five out of their seven on the back end. You lose Xavier woods. But is his name Jeremiah Moore? Jeremiah Moore, an up and comer cornerback who supposedly he's set up to be the next star filling in for Xavier woods, who got drafted last year. But they returned 5 out of their back 7. They returned 7 out of 11 of that elite defense that they had last year. They got guys up front. I agree with you when it comes to Miami's offensive line. But when you look at Carson Beck and the teams he played last year in, when he performed, this is a guy who can turn the ball over. He's also a guy who can have a nice looking stat record. But when you look at who he played when he's playing Massachusetts, Tennessee Tech, Georgia Tech, Auburn, Tennessee was the one where he played against a solid defense. 18 touchdowns, zero interceptions. But when you're playing against quality defenses in Texas, Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss, even Mississippi State, Kentucky, where he put up goose eggs across the board, 12 touchdowns, 18 turnovers. Carson Beck isn't even close to the player that Cam Ward is. And I think against an elite level pass defense that Notre Dame has. I like Notre Dame. I love Notre Dame. This is my iPad game. This is the game I see as clear as day. I'm talking baptism under the water, give him a rosary on the way home type of baptism. I love Notre Dame.
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A
In this pick, there's not A whole lot. You can more say more than that.
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B
I got some stuff I want to say that's.
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A
That's pretty incredible. I think all the things he said about Carson Beck, he loses the spring because he has a ucl, the Tommy Johns, whatever that is. Their defense was slow start and extremely inconsistent all last year. That's Miami. For you to think that they're going to be that much better is a little wild. I think. When you look at Mike Denbrock, what does he want to do? He obviously knows he's going to have a strong run game for all the reasons you said. My Highsman picked Jeremiah Love. But you go and get a couple of wide receivers and then you have CJ Carr sitting there who's going against the best pass defense in all college football. He's the grandson of Lloyd Carr, legendary Michigan football coach.
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C
He connects the dots.
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A
It's in his blood. He's done it day in and day out for his entire life. He is welcoming this opportunity. I think not only going to see a strong run game from Notre Dame, but I can see Denbrock getting the boys spread out a little bit. Take Love, put them in the slot, have them in those third and manageable type of situations. And anytime you want to be successful in football and you're going away to a place that can may or may not be a loud environment, you got to pack a defense, you got to pack a run game. Those are the two things you got to put in your lunchbox. And those are the two things that Notre Dame has deep.
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C
It's a run game. And by the way, it was Leonard Moore for the. For the Notre Dame Irish. I know they're tapping in.
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A
That's big. That's a big save. Leonard.
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C
More.
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A
I like CJ Carr. I like CJ Carr to outdo Carson back in this game. I think he's gonna have an awesome deal.
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B
That's a headline.
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A
It's a headline.
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B
That's a headline.
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A
Well, look at the. Look what's happening. All the stats you said about Georgia. He leaves Georgia for what reason? Sounds like because he got a little too in love. He didn't keep the main thing. The main thing and cash like you got money and he got girls. Two things that'll take out your foundation. He sits on a podium, he's got a chain on him with a turtleneck. He's in Miami. Like he fits the mold of Miami a little bit more. He doesn't have the team to back him up. C.J. carr's got better pieces around him. I think he's got a stronger coaching staff around him. He's gonna. He's not only gonna handle for a will to love, but he's gonna get guys outside, he's gonna have a couple of nice plays to make. You go, hey, this kid. Who's this kid? And they're gonna watch the locker room and go, oh, shit. I didn't know he was the grandson of Lloyd Carr. Oh, this kid, he's gotten his.
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C
He's got to take care of the football. I trust that his arm is probably better. It's not. It wouldn't be hard to beat Riley Leonard in throwing the ball around, but he's got to take care of the football and operate the same way. Like Riley did a very good job at that. I do want to challenge one thing on the defensive, the overhaul of. Of mainly the secondary. They got six portal guys that came in that are playing defense on the back end. They're back five. They're five in the secondary. Four out of the five are transfers and three out of those five in the secondary are also sophomores. So I don't doubt that they're. That they're very athletic. They got some youth, which could be a positive, but they're also very inexperienced and they're going to be working together, you know, for the first time again, the word overhaul and revamp. They might, the talent level might be there, but I'm interested to see this unit perform again with a lot of new faces and a lot of youth.
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B
So you mentioned Beck last year, how his performance level didn't scale, which you were right about. Probably a lot to do with their O line getting caved at Georgia, which it did several times last year against your Texases of the world and leading the league by a mile in drop. So I would counter with your Notre Dame run game. No one needs to sell me on Notre Dame's offensive line. I watched a million of them get hurt last year and performance level never dropped. Just incredible job developing, coaching. I watched the tailbacks. No one needs to sell me on the tailbacks. I would tell you in the interest of, you know, exploring scalability of performance against the better teams. They played Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State last year and yards per carry dropped to 4. 4 yards, a little under 4 yards per game. So if Miami is what I think they could be defensively, then maybe that ground game doesn't click and maybe you got to lean on a guy who did not lock down the starting quarterback position until about a week and a half ago in camp. A Little more than you thought you'd have to lean on him in week one. That's actually how I think the game's going to go. That's why I lean Miami.
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C
I like it.
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A
You talking about bow constrictor. Miami will be a little bow constrictor on that run game.
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B
Little bit.
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C
It's going to be a fun game. It's just if I'm thinking about where I'm going to put my coin in the FanDuel sports book, it's like you got crystal ball. He's went what, 5 and 7, 7 and 5, 10 and 3.
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B
This is fair. The staff versus staff is fair.
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C
Yeah. Staffer. And then you got Freeman who's went what, 9 and 4, 10 and 3 and then 14 and 2. Coming off a national title run. Like the operation over at Notre Dame, even though quarterback won a job a couple weeks ago, just feeling like how that culture is operating. And you mentioned the. The old line, like a lot of guys getting hurt. The talent not diminishing. This is a veteran group this year. And the crazy thing about the veteran group is nobody's a senior. So they, they develop, they build that old line. It'll be fun, though. It'll be fun.
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A
Yeah. It'll be a fun game.
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C
So you're Miami?
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B
I am Miami.
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C
Notre Dame.
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A
Notre Dame.
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C
Love it.
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A
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C
Alabama, Florida State. Alabama at Florida State. Alabama's favored by 13 and a half. The over under on points here is 50 and a half. Do we have to stay on this one very long?
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B
So I assume everyone's going bama?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Are you going Bama? Is everyone going Bama to cover?
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C
That's my. My gut tells me yes. The thing that I'm curious about with Florida State because they just. They dropped off last year, they did a massive overhaul. They thought they revamped the talent room and everything else. They're kind of doing the same thing this year. What I'm curious about, Tony White, Terrence Knighton. And there was another coach too left Nebraska. They go to Florida State. I believe the special teams coordinator there.
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A
Always goes back to Nebraska.
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C
Special teams coordinator there, John Papuccius. What was John Papuccius doing in 2012?
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A
What was he doing?
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C
The defensive coordinator at the University of Nebraska. So I got some cats down there where I'm curious how this Florida State team is going to be. I feel like people got them out of absolutely everything. I think they're going to be a lot better than people anticipate. But as far, to answer your question on the 13 and a half, am I confident enough to go Alabama 13 and a half here? I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it because of your monologue on Alabama last week and the talent and the depth, and I am a massive fan of DeBoer. I think Ty Simpson is going to be good. And they got freaks everywhere. And I think they're poised and pissed off and ready to go coming out of this year because you end the season losing to Michigan last year. And again, I think it's just the mentality is going to be coming out of the gate setting the tone because they're not in a position of people have them as favorites everywhere, like for the season, but I don't think they do in the building. And I think they're going to be looking to prove a point coming out against Florida State. So I'm going to take a minus 13 and a half. But I'm very curious to see how Tony White turns around that defense, because he can do it fast.
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A
Yeah, Alabama, when we went there for the spring practices, they were talking about how much more relaxed Kalin DeBoer was compared to. Compared to Nick Saban. You can see there, all their shoulders are kind of down. There's music being played. You're allowed to keep your shirt untucked. There was a whole lot of looseness. It's kind of like one of you. You give an inch if they take a mile.
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B
You mean last year, right?
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A
This is last year. This is last year. This year, I think they have. They had that chip on their shoulder. The way they ended the season. It's not. It's not what they want. You look at Florida state, Florida State, 2023, they go 13, 0. They end up not making the playoff because their quarterback breaks his leg. They take them out. They're real mad. They have a lot of guys transfer. So they bring a lot of new players in. It's a whole new roster. In 2024, they go 2 and 10. The next year, same thing has kind of happened. There's been 23 transfers that have come into Florida State. One of those transfers is Tommy Gasilanos. Gasianos I don't know. He sounds like an Italian.
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C
Stick with it, stick with it.
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A
Casianos, Cassianos, Boston College. He was at Boston College with Bill o'. Brien. They wanted to run the pro style offense. This kid's more of a backyard football type of guy who wants to run around a lot.
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B
A Malzahn guy.
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A
Yeah, a Malzahn guy, exactly. He gets benched at Boston College, ends up transferring to Florida State, and if you have so many pieces, you have 23 new pieces across your team. Malzahn, who is a guy who wants it, he wants to play a little backyard football, he wants to call the game like that. They're not going to have the join points this early. I think Alabama is a stronger team from a talent standpoint. They have more continuity. They have the same feeling of what they had last year being like, obviously that wasn't up to the Alabama standard. They lost as many games that last year as they did in Nick Saban's first year. What happened in Nick Saban's second year? They go to the national championship game. So I expect to see a big turnaround from Alabama being just clear and concise, you know, on special teams, offense and defense. I think they, they cover this game. I don't think it's close.
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B
I agree with you. I agree with you. What I like to do on our show when, when there's a favorite of double digits and everyone's on one side, at least ask, could the upset happen? Is there an outside like greater than 5% chance it could happen? I would say yeah. Lines 13 and a half at FanDuel. Upset could happen. Vandy happened last year, so an upset could happen. My question is always Art, how would that happen if you were to turn this game on and it was a dogfight in the fourth quarter? Probably what has happened is Florida State has duplicated the Vandy plan. The Vandy plan was finding out early. Ooh, Bama struggling with a mobile quarterback. Bama struggling with option stuff. We went 12 of 18 against them on third down. Wow. If we stay on the field, they can't have the ball. Malzahn knows Alabama intimately. Got a long history with him. Kane Womack, who is Bama's dc coached for Malzahn in high school up in Arkansas. So I think if Castellanos, who is the transfer here, talked a lot in the summer, if he just throws caution to the wind and frankly, I think they're going to ask him to do some stuff Saturday that you can't ask a guy to do every week. Because he's going to get beat to death. But in a one game scenario, like you talked all spring and summer, everywhere there was a microphone, he talked. If I'm Malzahn, I look at him and I say, did you mean it? He's gonna say, yeah. And I'm gonna look back at him and say, all right, well, I need you to put your face really, really, really in the fan Saturday because that's the only shot we got if that kind of stuff happens. If anything like the Vandy mobile quarterback giving Bama trouble, huge conversion rate on third down type thing happen, happens. And Bama struggles with turnovers on the road like they did last year, struggles with penalties on the road like they did last year. They were very schizophrenic on the road last year. If that's still a problem for them, I don't think it will be. But if that's still a problem for them, that's how it's close. It took me a long time to say that the path for Alabama is you line up and you realize we're that much better than them and you lean on them and you offensively stay on schedule, take the crowd out of it. Play action games working, run games working, get a lot of wide receivers involved. Early secondary smothers. Florida State makes them go on 10 play drives to score, which they probably can't do. There's just so many more ways where Bama's 14 plus point winners here than I think Florida State covering. So I like Bama to win and cover.
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A
The example you gave of how Alabama can lose is the reason why I think that they're not going to lose.
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B
Because they're aware of it.
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A
They're aware, right? They go into Vandy last year. Nick Saban right there is like he says on a college game day, the only place that's not hard to play in the SEC is Vanderbilt belt. They hear it, they take it personal. Pavia does what Pavia can do. And so now they're. Now Florida state's looking at it being like, this is how you beat Alabama. And Alabama has already identified like this is our weak spots and this is how we can fix it. I don't think this game's close.
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C
Yeah, I think if you have the fanduel app open, Josh, this is why you're great. I just want to tell you, I want to give you a compliment.
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B
I appreciate it because if I had.
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C
The fanduel sportsbook open and I listened to what you just said about how Florida state can make this Game interesting in the fourth quarter, and I paused it, like, as a guy, and I know there's plenty of brains out there that will latch on to any type of optimism. You could have easily sold me on why Florida State would cover and potentially win this game. I think that's a great. I think that's a great thing that you do, is you're able to talk about the other side. And I'm like, yeah, he's making some good points here. Like, maybe I do get a little spicy and go, Florida State plus 13 and a half. I'm not going to.
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B
No, we're not going to.
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C
But just the tip of the cap to where you had me for a moment. Like, yeah, he could be.
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B
Then I dropped these.
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C
Kind of makes sense.
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B
Then we dropped the. Yeah. Butt on him.
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C
I'm like, yeah, Pavia, 12 for 18. Spicy. Quarterback. You're like, you just line up and say, we're better than you. I'm like, yeah, that's a good point, too.
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A
Yeah. All those stats, and then it's like, they are just better than them.
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B
Well, the problem. The problem is what you said about Miami secondary. Florida State's trying to do with virtually their whole team.
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C
Right.
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B
Against Alabama.
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C
Right. I truly. I am excited to see how Tony White does with that. It's the three, three, five.
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B
Yep.
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A
JP Hovey, game of the week, Virginia Tech versus South Carolina. This game is in Atlanta. You got Shane Beamer, the head coach of South Carolina. His father, Frank Beamer, like, legendary head coach at Virginia Tech. They're probably sitting there having a couple conversations. I'm sure his dad's, hey, I'm rooting for a son. I want it. But there's a piece of him where it's like, hey, this is a win. Win for me. In a lot of ways, this is a win. Win. Virginia Tech, Brent Pryor, under Brent Pry. They haven't finished in the top 25 since, what, the early 90s? Since I was in diapers. Like, they haven't.
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C
You said for. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Brent. They had a run in the 2000s.
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A
No, no, no. Brent Pry, his stint. Every year he's been the head coach, they have not finished in the top 25. That has not happened since I was in diapers. I'm glad I got an opportunity to land that plane a little bit. But you look at South Carolina, every year JP And I talked about on the phone, they start slow. They have the tools. They have the pieces. They got this kid, Rasool Faison, who up until three Days ago they didn't know if he was going to be eligible. They had the same situation of Diego Pavia. Does the junior does the community college in California does not count. He's at Utah State. He runs for 1300 yards. Nick harbor, who was, you know, all world everything on College football, 25 because he was a 99 speed, had a lot of uncharacteristic drops. Couldn't run the whole entire route tree. He decides I'm not going to do track and field during the spring anymore. I'm going to hang up my track cleats, put my football cleats back on and start refining my game a little bit. Lenore Sellers. A lot of people are high on it, including yourself, I believe. Is that your Heisman guy that is.
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B
Right there along with Matir?
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A
Yeah, yeah. I forgot. I blacked out when he said Mattia because I was so, so upset about that. I think this is a game that every year South Carolina fans get upset about because they don't find a way to like, step on their throat. And this is the perfect game for them to sit in a neutral site location. The head coach of South Carolina, his dad was the coach of the other team and he's alleged he's probably got a statue out there in Virginia Tech. This is the game that South Carolina finally says, we're here, we're going to put these pieces together. Every year South Carolina has players. Like every time I got to sit around JP during the football season, it's like, oh, this guy played at South Carolina, that play. And you're like, it's pretty incredible how much talent.
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C
Yeah. The amount of guys that got in.
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A
The NFL without the success from a team standpoint. Shane Beamer is a guy, man. He's a guy. I think he. He takes the next step. I think they put their throat on Virginia Tech in this game. Put their throat on them.
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B
I was looking at my.
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C
And just to put out There, too, with FanDuel, South Carolina is favored by seven and a half.
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B
Seven and a half. I think it's a total sucker number. That's what I think it is. I looked at my own numbers last night. My own numbers do not agree with what I'm about to say. Like the model I use that we built, that's been so profitable for us over the years, screams Virginia Tech plus the points. I just think it's wrong. I think screamed. Screamed it. Screamed it. The model spits out South Carolina -5, which differential two and a half points. Crossing a key number at seven is a really, really big. Yeah, it's a really big.
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C
Listen, I consume your show. Your show, Josh, like you, it might be like one off.
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B
Never that many.
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C
Two and a half point swing.
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B
Yeah. So that's okay because the model's been wrong. It had Oklahoma number 12 last year. Like, how did that work out?
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A
I'm sitting here like just out there in turmoil.
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C
Like, holy shit.
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B
I think I did. So every year, week one especially, there's a number out there where it's seven and a half. This is also Cincinnati. Ooh, Ooh. Only. Only six and a half. Why is Nebraska only favored by six and a half? You either trust your preparation and you trust your knowledge of the teams or you don't. You can't let the board override what you've invested six months of your life into learning. What I've learned with South Carolina and specifically with this matchup is Virginia Tech got gutted by the portal. First thing. Okay. Kyron Drones, big bodied quarterback, he can run. I think their tailback room is probably underrated. And I think they look at South Carolina's front and they look at Dylan Stewart. Like, man, Dylan Stewart's a stud. Could be a net liability in run defense. That's what separates him. And maybe a Colin Simmons. Colin Simmons is a plus run defender at Texas, whereas Dylan Stewart, maybe that's a little bit of a liability. Here's the problem. That's where my optimism ends with matchup wise, what could lean Virginia Tech? I know everyone thinks Lenore Sellers is really good. Most people think he's great. I truly don't know how many people have popped on tape of him last year or not tape. Just go watch games, go watch YouTube clips to remember how insanely good he is. Like he took over the Clemson game. And against this defense, especially if there's wide receiver talent, which JP's vouching for. Above just that of Nick Harbor. Nickel the Y. Above just that of Nick Harbor. If they've got that, if they've got Faison eligible. Now, there are so many things to me that scream South Carolina that I told you before we hit record. I'm not looking at it saying, ooh, they got to cover seven and a half. I'm looking at it saying, I can't believe I get South Carolina only lay in single digits because I think they're going to win by double digits. So I'm taking South Carolina to win and cover.
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A
That had to feel good, jp.
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B
And what you said is going to happen. What you said, the foot on the throat. They don't do it. The Old Dominion game is still fresh in everyone's mind. You just sneak by teams. The Bama game, you let it get away. Referees stole the LSU game from you last year. None of that happens if you don't leave the game in doubt. I don't think South Carolina is going to leave the game in doubt. So I'll take them to winning cover.
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C
Yeah, I agree with all that. I agree with you boys. The one thing I have a disagreement with is it feeling like a win win for Shane Beamer. Because you watch the any given Saturday documentary of the SEC and you sit there and watch Shane and his body language and the words that he's saying about like he wants to carve his own way outside of his dad's name. Because Shane, he's a Virginia Tech graduate, a hokey letterman, the son of Frank Beamer. As we all know, this game hasn't happened in 33 years. Frank Beamer coached him in 1991 when they lost to South Carolina 28 to 21. It was Frank Beamer's fifth year as a head coach. This is now Shane's fifth year as a head coach. And I like to me, when you look at South Carolina, this is a team we got to remember. This is a team nobody wanted to see at the end of the year last year. My question is because again, they got a lot of new faces. My question is, what's the team going to be beyond Lenore Sellers and Dylan Stewart? Because outside of them, you have two of the best players in the country, but who's going to step up in those other roles? South Carolina is a team that you're not talking about when you hear the word revamped and overall and everything else. I think South Carolina coach Beamer has a good track record of developing transfers when they get on campus. Kyle Kennard is a great example. Is it Demetrius JP Demetrius Davis, Demetrius Knight, linebacker last year. Those guys are two puzzle pieces that developed as transfers. Kyle Kennard was 15 and a half tackles for loss, 11 and a half sacks, three force fumbles. And that's because Dylan Stewart is a freak and he's going to get all the attention. Who's going to step up this year? Is it going to beat Brian Thomas Jr. On the other side? The D tackle transfer out of Alabama, his name is Monkel Goodwin. Is he going to step up? Because he's got a lot of hype coming out of training camp. But who's going to step up when Dylan Stewart's taking all the attention and then Lenore Sellers, he's a freak. Yep, he's one of the best, if not the best. He is my Heisman pick to win it this year. I like South Carolina. I think they build on the secondary. They were strong last year in the secondary. I think they're going to play aggressive. I think they whoop Virginia Tech. I hate that Virginia Tech has fallen the way that they have. Because in the 2000s with Frank Beamer, I mean, you can give him Frank Beamer in a block punt in this game. South Carolina is still going to win, but the way that the VT Tech logo has just kind of fallen, I hate it. This would have been a game that South Carolina back in the day would be circle one. Oh, we got to get this team now. I think it's a smiley face. So I got South Carolina.
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B
I got the building the rest of the week.
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C
I got a minus seven and a half. I like South Carolina. I'm excited to see who's going to step up on the defensive side along with Dylan Stewart.
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A
Well said. So we're all South Carolina.
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C
We're all South Carolina. So everybody out there, time to fade the boys.
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B
People are going to say curse the curse. People are going to say fade. People are going to look at at that and say that that's a square bet. You're laying seven and a half. They got you across the key number. You're going with the big SEC brand and I just think you're overthinking the room. If you look at it that way, it's so fundamental.
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C
South Carolina is that much better about Virginia Tech. All the transfers, seven starters transferred out. They switched. They hired or they fired and hired two new coordinators. Pry. Is that his name? I think he's on the hot seat, but I don't see how this ends well at all for Virginia Tech especially. Neutral site like this is.
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A
All right, we're on this episode to bring you Michelob Ultra. Brought to you by Michelob Ultra Superior Light Beer. The delicious taste of victory deserves something equally superior. Cheer on your new team with Michelob Ultra. At 2.6 carbs and 95 calories, it's a superior smooth taste worth playing for. Michelob Ultra Superior Light Beer. But you brought up something that is like is a big deal and I think does play a lot of bias is the SEC logo. The SEC logo versus the ACC logo. It's like, oh, you just assume that the SEC is going to win every single time. And that's where I had trouble with this game. Auburn. Auburn at Baylor. Because you Got Hugh Freeze, who's on the hot seat right now. You got Jackson Arnold.
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C
I'm with you, bro.
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A
Who gets laughed out of Oklahoma and every. Like when I went to Google Jackson Arnold, what's going on with him? It's like everything's about what's his confidence, like how he's going to get back. We've seen the highest of highs and the lowest of lows, like what is this guy going to be? And then you got a head coach who probably has a piece of anxiety himself where he's got to go see his therapist, he's got to sit down there, cross his legs and say I'm having a tough time too. Because everyone's saying get me the hell out of Auburn. So it's. And then you look at them and it's like, yeah, they have a, they have a running back, Sawyer Robinson, he can win the ball a little bit. They have an underrated Bryson Washington who rushed for over a thousand yards last year in Baylor. Like you see kind of how Baylor can win the game and that's keeping it in third and manageable, running the ball, being successful that way, using the.
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C
Rpo blackout and Waco crowd's going to be live.
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A
But then you got Auburn who has an outstanding wide receiver room. You have a guy who has an extremely high ceiling but had extremely low lows at the quarterback position and a coach that's like, you know, is he confident himself? So you're dealing with like confidence issues. I think me personally and I love to get more like a, a dialed in opinion of what you think. But like when I look at Auburn, I think the game is what are your top 15 plays look like? Because you have an extremely good wide receiver room. You've got a good defense or you have starters coming back in all areas, defense, line, linebacker and your secondary. Your wide receiver room is really impressive. Can you get Jackson Earl to start develop a little in game confidence very, very early and that's with high percentage throws. That's your bubbles, that's your checkdowns. And then you got Coleman on the outside. Maybe that fourth, fifth or sixth play, you go and throw a vert and just see if you can get him a back shoulder just to feel out that confidence. Because if Jackson can get confident, I can see Auburn running away with this thing. But I can also see Baylor controlling the clock, playing good defense and really.
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C
They return a lot of production from last year. A lot of guys I like Sawyer Robertson.
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A
Sawyer Robertson's kind of nasty and I.
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C
Love the head coach. What's it remind me his name.
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B
Dave Aranda.
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C
I love Dave Aranda. Him going on the press conference last year talking about the scene from Wolf of Wall Street. You know what I'm talking about.
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B
Beautiful, beautiful moment in American history. Not Baylor history in American history.
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C
Just comparing recruiting to throwing midgets on the wall.
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B
Didn't even go. Little people didn't even go.
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C
Little people say I didn't see the clip.
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A
So. Kind of fires me up though.
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C
Got to do something, make them feel like they belong. They don't want you thinking you're laughing about at him. He's like, that's kind of, you know, that's. That's recruiting.
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A
I got Sherm Payson in the back. He's got a cut off Baylor Bear. Baylor. What was it? We pair of players.
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C
Oh yeah, he's got the backwards.
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A
He's got the. It's just like I want to go Baylor for Sherm, but I just feel like it's Auburn. I feel like it's Auburn.
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C
I'll let you go because I know you got a, a solid little breakdown. Auburn, how this game could play.
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B
I when I looked at in the spring, you know how you know what the games are going to be week one and you know you haven't broken the game down but you just think I'm probably going to go Baylor in that one. That's what I thought in the spring. That's what I thought in the summer. I got not glowing returns out of Auburn. Spring ball about Jackson Arnold didn't sound great. The early portions of fall camp, very, very hit and miss which by the way, I expect it to be early. I've looked at this as get in there, crawl over broken glass if you have to. Get the win, get out, regroup and get ready for conference play down the road. That's. I don't think there's a choice where they pull away. Like I think it's Auburn win somehow, some way. Best case scenario, it's a dogfight for him. The more I looked at it, the more I said which two units have takeover potential? If there is takeover in this game. And it ended up being Auburn's O line, which is the most underrated part of their team and wide receiver gives them an opportunity. Now I got such low confidence in that because I have low confidence in Jackson Arnold. That's a turnover prone player. Freese's system is turnover prone throughout his career. Even when he was good at Ole Miss they turned the ball over at a rate that was higher than any other successful team. They turned it over chronically last year. So there's low confidence in this. The way if I try and try and close the eyes and envision the game going is all right. Neither side's having a ton of success or either. Both sides are having a ton of success, but neither is pulling away. Auburn has such a good receiver room that when all else fails, you can throw it up to guys. And I really think when you watch Auburn, if they win, which I think they will, I'm going to go Auburn to win the game very narrowly. I think it's going to be a whole lot more just throw it up and let freaks make plays. And you watch it and you say, dude, there's no design behind this. That's just better athletes winning. That's actually why I think they're going to win. They're going to take better athletes into Waco. It won't so much be they're going to scheme them to death. They're going to out athlete them just enough to get out of there with a win. You're still going to have questions about Auburn. You're still going to find yourself saying they're not going to be able to win in the SEC like that. And then Auburn's going to say, that's okay because maybe we'll be better than this by the time we get to conference play. We got the win. Now if the opposite were to happen, it's a nightmare for Hugh Freeze. I'm just telling you. I know.
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A
Is there a chance he doesn't have a job?
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B
There's a chance that that begins the terminal like trajectory towards him not having a job. That is a place I know very well and that is a place that needs this game very badly.
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A
God, are you gonna be the one that puts Sherm on his back? On your back?
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C
I want to badly. I want to sit there and look at Peyton Dyke. Not so fast, my friend. And talk about the Baylor Bears in a way of returning all that production, returning a team that is very excited to open their season on a Friday night. We're talking Friday night lights. Blackout in Waco, Texas.
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B
Could be a blackout on YouTube TV. Could be a blackout everywhere.
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C
A lot of excitement because Baylor, Baylor's a contender for the Big 12. I'm with you. I agree on the talent.
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B
Killed the fly.
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C
You got him.
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B
Yeah, I got him.
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C
No, you didn't. There he is.
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B
Oh, I'm looking for a body.
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A
Did you buy to us on the bus?
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B
I got no body over here. Never mind.
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C
I saw him flying around. I kind of wanted to hit a. But just something tells me. I know the pate state model can't predict turnovers, but something just tells me you're going to try and establish the run and protect Mr. Jackson Arnold, but all you need is one turnover early for that place to get rocking.
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B
Yep.
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C
For them to feel just a little bit of confidence. I know we can't predict turnovers, but the whole close your eyes thing, I can see it happening and it juices up a sideline. It rallies the troops and it puts just that little bit of pressure. It's like Jackson Arnold. Yeah, he's got a high ceiling. Talk about all the mental. Where is he at mentally? But what happens to that team when they get hit in the mouth? What happens when not even hit in the mouth, but one bad thing happens. You turn the ball over, Baylor goes down the score. This is a game I want to reach in and I want to take the underdog. I want to take Auburn and that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to ride with the Baylor Bears and also who I want to cement. This is not your man. Randy Savage coming from the back end. We got our Baylor Bear. We got Sherman Young.
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A
You see, I'm going to reach in. He did take Auburn and that's what I'm going to do. I'm taking the Baylor Bears.
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C
Did I say Auburn?
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A
Holy shit.
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C
I'm taking Baylor. I want to reach out. I want to take Baylor. I like everything says Auburn's the better football team. But I'm gonna. I'm going with that turnover early in the game.
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B
Let me tell you one and I.
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C
Like the speed on the outside of Baylor.
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A
Dude, you're start. You're starting.
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B
Are you sold?
- [67:52]
A
He's starting to sell me.
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B
Like, are you leaning?
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A
That's.
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C
Do we need the last bit of tip right here?
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A
Just like have you read about. There's new slot receiver Fondell, bro.
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C
They got some talent on the outside.
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B
Reach in and fondle.
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A
Yeah, you know, Fondell.
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B
I just wanted to say Fondel really slowly with reach in. That's all I wanted to do. Hey, let me tell you something. Speaking of uncomfortability at media days.
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A
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
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C
Make our new guest feel uncomfortable.
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A
No, he knew what was coming.
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C
Oh, he knew.
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A
He knew what was coming, but I forgot make our new guest feel uncomfortable. I'm gonna reach my hand in the cookie jar, get Josh. That's exactly what I'm gonna get. Will Compton, he was this close.
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B
I know he was this close.
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C
I Thought about it.
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A
Did you bite? You just bit on that?
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B
I was gonna bite in a different way though.
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C
He kind of bit on.
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A
He kind of bit. Cuz you said Will's heads turn like this. You say fondant. He just slowly looks at me, I'm like, oh, no, that's your one. Josh.
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B
I forgot what I was going to say.
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A
Next week. If I get you, I get you.
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C
You're probably going to talk about the speed.
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B
No, no, I was going to tell you this. So you said what a turnover would do and you said what it would do mentally to Jackson Arnold. Freese was at media days and told us that he had instructed his defensive coaches to allow practice to end on a positive note for his offense and his quarterback. That's how they had scripted practice during fall time.
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A
Can I say one thing?
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C
Give me Baylor Bears sick hearing that.
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A
Give me Baylor Bears because I cannot. I can't have that. When I'm looking at Jackson ordinal, I'm seeing all the articles, where's his confidence at? How is he mentally? Blah, blah. A lot of people are saying, you got to worry about this kid. If he gets his confidence back, it's real.
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Fact that the head coach is saying it's real.
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We have to finish practice on a positive note for this kid's mentals. I get. I'm all about. I'm all about people taking care of themselves mentally. This game doesn't care about your feelings. Right? It does not care about your feelings. I know damn well everybody in Waco, Texas doesn't give a fuck about Jackson Arnold's feelings. Give me the Baylor Bears.
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C
I'm flipping, I'm flipping.
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A
Come on.
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C
How you feeling? The nacho man, Randy Savage.
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D
Let me get that mic, brother. Oh, my God.
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C
Pate, Stators, welcome to the show.
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B
Talk to me.
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D
Speaking of Pete Stators, I'm here with the commissioner of college football, Josh Pate. He's picking the Auburn Tigers this Friday night when they go up against those Baylor Bears down in Waco, Texas. Auburn Tigers, cup of coffee. Not gonna let it slip through my fingers. You know why? Because the Baylor Bears are the cream that will rise to the top. If we're talking about Jackson Arnold and making them comfortable, Dave Aranda's got blitzes more exotic than the Amazon River. Josh paid. He's gonna be getting in that kid's base all night. But let's not talking about what's going on on the field. Let's talk about what's going on in the crowd. We got a blackout on the brazos we got the chrome domes dripping gold all night. And if you freeze once. A boat race, by God, we're built on the brazos. In a boat race, it will be 57 and a half is the over. Under. Correct me behind the computer if I'm wrong. Smash the over. Baylor ain't going underneath. 35 points all night. And I'll tell you one last thing. I love that you're talking about my coach, Dave Aranda, because the cream. The Cream Taylor rises to the top. Dave Aranda's put six or seven head coaches into a coffin into a casket. Lincoln Riley came to Waco when he was coaching the Sooners, and he played beat that ass so bad, he ran off to the Pac12. Steve Sarkeesian came in, lost to Dave Aranda, Mike Gundy in the Big 12 championship. Dave Aranda's got a body count. You know who's on that body count?
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Tell us.
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2016 Head Coach of Ole Miss, Hugh Freeze, who's the defensive coordinator at LSU that kept him to 21 points. This guy knows what he's doing. He knows what's coming in there. And the Baylor Bears are gonna be walking out with the W because the cream rises to the top.
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Thank you, Nacho man.
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Does that. Thank you. Does that change your mind at all?
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Yeah, well, it changes my mind. I'm definitely gonna drink this cream. You know, the game they beat Lincoln when he was at OU was so great. Sherm, you remember this? You stormed the field twice.
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D
Twice.
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They stormed the field twice. I was on the field. I know. They stormed the field twice. It does not change my mind, but I'm in love with the. I'm in love with everything that just happened.
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C
Yeah.
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I thought Sherman was gonna have a heart attack halfway through.
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Honestly, he was like, fucking.
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The cream will rise to the top.
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Good slate of games.
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C
Great slate of games.
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Great slate of games. Great slate of games.
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C
Did we get to it? The game of the Week. The True Classic game of the week. Every Saturday, it's got games, but only one fits just right. This is True Classics game of the week. The True Classic game of the week is presented by. You guessed it, True Classic. They sent us a boatload of the new Pima shirts. They fit amazingly. If you look at Josh Pate right here and you look at the genetics that this man has, if he doesn't have a True Classic shirt on, he looks like our boy Jared Beeman. He puts on a True Classic shirt, he looks like Josh Bate Stack. Look good, feel good, play good. You can find True Classic at Amazon and Costco. Sam's Club. Target nationwide or online@truclassic.com Bussin look good, feel good, play good. Let's get to the big game of the week. Texas at Ohio State. The Heisman favorite, Arch Manning takes on the defending national champions, Ohio State. Ohio State is favored at home minus two and a half. The over under on this game is 47 and a half.
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Gentlemen, can I go on record saying I want Ohio State to win this game?
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You Portnoy, everybody does.
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I want Ohio State to win this game. I do. I just look at the turnover at the OC and dc. I like Brian Hartline actually a lot. Not only is he a great recruiter, but friend of the show.
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C
Friend of the show.
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A
Friend of the show.
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C
Best swag in America. On game.
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Best swag in America. Guy looks absolutely fantastic. I think he'll do a great job. And plus he has aliens all over Ohio State's offense.
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C
Matt.
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Patricia. I'm not, I don't want to be disrespectful. I'm not like completely sold on him. Like, I know he was big time at the Patriots, but then he kind of jumped all over the place. I didn't really see a whole big jump from him. I look at Texas, the question mark there is their offensive line. They have a, they're, they're putting a bunch of new guys in there, but they have an elite secondary. They have a kid that's been all world everything. A Manning that can run. Who would have thought that concoction even existed? He's a Heisman front running candidate. I think Texas is like a vampire going to sleep, man. And Ohio State put them to bed. It's not a casket.
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C
It's a body bag.
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No. What do vampires sleep in? Not a casket.
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Coffin.
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Coffin. D's nuts, dude. All right, listen. I think Texas loses to Ohio State after a team that had an incomplete.
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C
And incredible cough in coughing.
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B
He didn't break stride.
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A
He never broke. He's trying so hard. Dude.
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B
The basket of six and a half in the basket.
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Six and a half. Ohio State lost their entire defense except for one cough in. Cough in these nuts, dude. You got got. What are you mad about? What are you mad about?
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C
Can't give you that one.
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Caleb Downs, all world safety. He's your main returner. You lose all of your production. The six, the most pressures, you got. Your six guys, they're now gone. Matt. Patricia has to now go in and reinstate confidence and have. I mean, there's no doubt that Ohio State's always going to reload every everything. I think it takes a little bit of time. I think Texas right now at this point, they have a more cohesive unit from the OC standpoint. I think Sarkeesian sees blood. He needs it. He's got to have it. They already held Jeremiah Smith to one reception for three yards. They understand how to neutralize him in a lot of ways. I think Ohio State is going to give their elix in this game. I'm hoping this game is close. I want Ohio State to win. If the game is close, Ohio State will win this game. I can see Texas, I can see this being a disappointing week one where we're like, man, Texas just blew the doors off of them. I can see that happening. I don't necessarily see it going the other way that that playoff game they had. Every guy who scored a touchdown is no longer on the Ohio State offense anymore. Both, both their running backs are gone. The one receiving touchdown they had was the Trayvon Hendrickson. He scores a 75 yarder. I think there's a lot of turnover for Ohio State. I think Texas has been waiting for this for a long time and this is the team they lost to last year. This is a get back game for them. If Ohio State wins, that's a good look for the Big Ten.
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C
So you got Ohio State minus two and a half.
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No, I got Texas. I want. I've already said Texas. I want Ohio State to win, but I think Texas is going to win this game. Okay, if I'm sitting here and people are watching the show, they're like, I'm going to listen to what Taylor Lawan says. I would say Texas. I can't. I can't go wrong. By the fan base, individuals, people.
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C
Okay, I got you.
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What's a vampire sleeping?
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I can't give you a cough. I look at both of these, both of these schools, they all got great talent, they all got good coaching staffs. They're all going to have good game plans. If I just focus in on how this game can play out and if I'm leaning on the Matt Patricia side of the defense, you got Arch Manning having his first big game, doesn't have a whole lot of starts and experience to where you're watching the film and it's like, this is how we're going to attack this kid. Patricia is more of an aggressive play caller. A lot of more man to man coverage and everything else. I think when you get a good quarterback that can dice you up, you're not going to want to sit in zone. So I think this plays into Matt Patricia wanting to implement this very aggressive style defense, especially coming out of week one. But I think it plays into the hands of Arch, of Arch Manning and Sarko. I think they're going to have great counters to everything they do defensively. I think the wide receivers will get just enough separation and I think if Arch Manning is as advertised, which I think he is, I think he, he eats up this man to man coverage. I got Texas in this game. I'm taking Texas plus two and a half. To me, that's what it comes down to. Because I think everywhere everybody's good. There's going to be new faces on both sides of the ball. They've all recruited very well. They have everything, each team, they're poised for a big year. You want to know who the quarterback's going to be on Ohio State side. But again, I like Arch Manning as advertised and I think he has a lot of success against the man coverage that he's going to see this weekend.
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Julian saying too, having his first start in this type of game, I mean, what is it the loudest? Oh yeah. JP's getting his third vehicle brought to him.
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C
You're right.
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Yeah. Julian saying, like, it's like what an uphill battle he has. He has, he's lost his running backs. I mean, he has like an alien wide receiver, a guy you can just kind of go throw it up to. But Texas, man, like you're basically inheriting, inheriting a problem from your former family. Like Ohio State went and beat the brakes off of Texas this year. They haven't forgot. It doesn't matter if there's a different guy at quarterback. They have not forgotten about what the Buckeyes did to him.
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I just keep hearing so many people do what you just did. You just did. I'm about to do it. I'm about to pick Texas too. And I just picture folks sitting at Columbus. We just won a national title. A returning or replacing a starter at Ohio State is a little different than what it is everywhere else because you're replacing a starter with another stud. Problem is Texas is that same way. And Texas's questions I think are lesser than Ohio State's hellacious pass rush edge. Texas, I think quarterback will be an edge to Texas, but who really knows? I just guess on that there's a staff edge to Texas. I love those dudes at Ohio State, but I mean, they wouldn't be able to call me a liar with a straight face if I said you're replacing Coordinators. One of them, like you said, with Matt Patricia, not really a lot of college experience to begin with. And then on Texas side, I consider Sark their oc. Pete Kwakowski's been there forever and he's probably kept them up. In fact, I know he's kept them up late this week because I've spoken to them about staying up late this week about trying to run the ball on him. Special teams man, Texas, Jeff Banks got one of the best special teams guys in the country. I just, I look at it so many different ways. Like one thing people say all the time when these number one versus number two top five matchup type games happen is they say, well, either way it'll be a great game. I don't know that it'll be a great game because there's a world where you get this much talent and this much uncertainty. You throw it in a blender, it could spit out 38 to 17 either way. I think it could be a blowout either way. I just trust Texas's answers a whole lot more, I guess, than Ohio State's answers. So, like many other people, I'm going Texas to win and cover.
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I think the public will be like understanding if Texas was a 3817 winner. I think the public's a little more unforgiving if Ohio State's on the winning version of that blowout. They should be, especially with Arch Manning, like everybody and their mother. The use of the cohesiveness of the DCs and the head coach, like everything. If there's going to be a blow, it says the Longhorns written all over it.
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B
Do you think Sark or Ryan Day needs the game more?
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A
That. See, that's where Eileen favor in Ohio State. I think Sark needs the game more than Ryan Davis.
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B
I don't think it's close. I think It's Sark by 10 miles. One guy just won a national title, right? Okay, one guy, if he wins Saturday, great. But like, do the alternate scenario. If all three of us are wrong, very rare. But if all three of us are wrong and they're flying back home and Ohio State just got the win. Here's what Texas fans start to say. You, Steve Sarkeesian had a shot against deboer a couple of years ago in the playoffs. You lost to a lesser roster. You had two shots against Kirby last year, you lost. Then you lost again. And they put their backup quarterback in at halftime because we knocked the starter out. You still lost. You had a shot against Ryan Day in the playoffs, you lost you just got another shot against Ryan Day. You lost again. Do we have a big game problem? Does our guy match up in big game? We don't play 162 games in football. We play 12 of them. So over the span of one Saturday, the narrative, which is an overused word, but in this case it fits the narrative around a guy can start to shift pretty radically. So you can say it's one game. People can say it's one game. All they want to go lose the game. Not even a conference game, but go lose the game on the road, in the shoe against number one or two.
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C
It'Ll be, you know, the 08 stock market crash.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Back in Texas.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I think it turns more into a Ryan Day situation before this past year.
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C
Which is worse because I think Texas fans are crazier.
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B
But people would look at his roster. People look at Franklin's roster. They've never said Franklin's got a roster that compares to Ohio State. They got to squeeze every drop of water out of the rag to win a game. They would look at Texas and say, you've got an embarrassment of riches. You've out recruited everyone. You guys can portal like no one else. You've got infinite resources. If you can't get it done with all the resources at your disposal, it would in a way be viewed worse than James Franklin.
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C
Yeah. And a lot of Ferraris. And in that parking lot, ton of them.
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A
A lot of them. Figuratively and literally.
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Yeah, there it is. Texas across the board. I hope we seem right. I feel really good about the weekend. We do have our dog of the week. Dogs of the Week.
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A
Dogs of the week.
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C
What we're doing on dog of the week is we're picking an underdog with the points. So that way we can talk about a different game or a different team that's out there right now. Because the thing with college football is once you get outside of the big games or the spreads or a little more marginal outside of that, it's all double digit spreads. I think Moneyline is hard to be like.
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A
It's hard to sit there confident, look at the viewer and go, hey guys, listen, I'm going to take this underdog that's, you know, plus 15 and a half.
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B
Yep.
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A
This is why you should take them. And then you lose your good hard earned money.
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C
Right.
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A
Talking spreads, trying to give you the best opportunity you want to go first.
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C
I like Syracuse plus 13 and a half. I don't on Tennessee not to win. I think Tennessee wins the game. But I like Syracuse plus 13 and a half. I really like Fran Brown. He was the DB coach at Georgia. Syracuse hires him to be the head man in the first year at Syracuse. Look, nobody knows that Syracuse plays football up in the northeast. He goes 10 and 4.
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A
Tell it to Troy Nunes.
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C
Do what?
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A
Troy Nunes, legendary Syracuse quarterback coach.
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C
Okay, fair, but Syracuse, historically they haven't had. They just went 10, 4 with Fran Brown's first year as the head man. And this is a guy that loves the smoke. Deion talks about, hey, let's do, you know, we should, we should be open up and be able to practice against other teams. You know, Fran Brown's on the Internet being like, hey, we'll be that team. NCAA shuts it down. But this dude, like he has the swagger right now. Currently they have a top 25 recruiting class. Like, he's talking athletes in the, hey, Syracuse is the best place for you to play football. He's talking transfers at Notre Dame, Alabama, LSU being like, hey, this is a better spot to play because he knows how to develop and get the most out of his talent. I like Fran Brown a lot. Again, Syracuse hasn't had a double digit win season since 2002 and he does it in his very first year. Will Howard was a big part of that. But again, this is a guy who can recruit and get people in there and he knows how to develop guys. Comma, cord. My fault.
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B
They're both, you know that they're all the same.
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C
Ohio State, Ohio State, Ohio State. But I like Fran Brown, I like Syracuse. I like the 13 and a half against the Tennessee team, who they're going to be very good defensively, but I don't know who they're going to be offensively without Nico. And they got a lot of new faces across the board. O line receivers. They're replacing the running back. So that's why I like Syracuse. Plus with the points, plus 13 and a half.
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B
I love it.
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C
You like that?
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B
I've been on it all week. Love it. Steve Angeli, by the way, new quarterback for Syracuse, transfer from Notre Dame. Good player, competitive character of that team. Trust it a lot. Tennessee's not pulling away in that. So Syracuse is going to cover that game.
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C
Oh, wow.
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B
Yeah. No, I like, I like it a lot.
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C
You like it a lot?
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B
I've taken a, I've taken a strong position on Syracuse this week. I would also like to take a strong position on South Florida. Plus five and a half. This is a, either a Thursday or a Friday game.
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C
I want you to know I'm Taking it Boise. Nothing about this game. Who are they playing?
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B
They're playing Boise. They're playing down in Tampa. They are. Alex Goelish is one of the coaches that I've had circled for a couple of years. Like Alex Golish was the OC at Tennessee, gets the South Florida job. Been down there a couple of years. He's taken Bama to the wire twice. That's probably the only time people have really watched him. I just believe everyone's looking at Boise and they just automatically pencil him in. It's either them, like you default to them as the playoff team for the G5, and if they lose a game, it's going to be when they play Notre Dame. They're 5 1/2 point favorite in week one. Not 15 or 25. They're 5 1/2 dot favorite. I think South Carolina could be South Florida, both of them, actually. But South Florida could be very sneaky there. So I'm going to take them plus five and a half.
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C
I'm taking it. Vandu.
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Vandu. Yeah. I don't know nothing about that game. And to be honest with you, I forgot where they had to do this until about 45 minutes before the show started. I threw a drop in the bucket here. I looked at Colorado. I said, there's been a lot of distractions in the Sanders family. A lot of distractions going on. Jadur Shiloh's out there throwing punches on tight end guys. Deion just beat cancer. A lot of people not talking about the program of Colorado right now. I don't know who's their starting quarterback.
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B
It's going to be Kaden Salter.
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A
Kaden Salter. Everyone knows about Kaden Salter. I don't even have to explain.
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C
He's salty.
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A
He's salty. He's going to be salty out there. They're playing Georgia Tech, their dogs by four and a half. I can see them being sneaky here, covering that. I can see them. Ask me how.
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B
I have no idea. Do you?
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A
Nope.
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B
Nope.
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A
Neither. But this is one of those situations where 40 minutes before the show, we had this and I was like, I got too much going on with the other five games. I got to make sure and get something out here. I like Deion. I love Deion. I like primetime. I think it's actually going to help not having his kids on the team either. From a distraction standpoint, kind of get right to ball. Ball. Focus on ball. Not worry so much about nepotism. No disrespect. Not be so worried about nepotism. So I, I got. Let me get Colorado, you guys with the parlay. That weekly parlay, huh?
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C
Do you like that pick at all?
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B
Nah, man. I don't know why it's so low. That's why I've stayed away from it, because I love Georgia Tech this year. Oh, I love the spot for him.
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C
Hey, Josh loves Georgia Tech.
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A
He loves.
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C
I'm talking. He sees him in the ACC championship.
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B
Yeah, they did In Dublin.
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A
In Dublin, eight overtimes. Rivalry, spicy.
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C
The linebacker with the. The.
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B
They got everybody. Everybody's back with that horse collar.
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C
Back.
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B
Actually, I don't know if he's back.
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C
He's back. He's back. Mitch. Oh, yeah, he runs around, he hunts in between the tackles. Hunts. Don't get him dropping him coverage, but he hunts.
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B
Never seen in thin air, though. Never seen him play in thin air, so there's that.
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A
All right. Okay. Parlay. Weekly parlay.
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C
Yeah, I'm just trying to give us a no brainer. You want to talk to us about. You want to talk to me about Ball State?
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B
Yeah, not much. But I want to talk to you about Ball State. They're playing Purdue. They're getting 18 and a half. Purdue has 82 new scholarship players on the roster. It's impossible to know what they have. Barry Odom's the head coach there. There is no way that he knows what he has. Winning by 10 is a great day for them Saturday. They are laying 18 and a half though. So I'm taking ball state plus 18 and a half. It is one of my favorite bets. It is my favorite bet of the entire week, actually. Yeah.
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Okay.
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C
Staters going crazy.
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A
Purdue, man, I feel bad for Purdue. I'm gonna go. Montana State, they're plus 27 and a half versus Oregon. Why you ask? I don't know. Because they were in their own national championship last year. Ended up going 15 1. They got the Stanford transfer, Justin Lamson good there, dual threat quarterback guy like that. Oregon, last year they started slow and they played Idaho State and they, they only won that game by like three points. Took a little to get that ball rolling a little bit, get them mobile until what they were towards the end of the year before they run into the buzzsaw of Ohio State. Montana State's sneaky. I think Oregon's also a team that like they know who they are as a unit. They're going to get up. Montana State's going to keep their starters in there because they're getting guys film, whatever and then they're going to pull their guys back. They're going to let them play their game. This is going to be a 21 point win for Oregon. And I think Montana State kind of is like, you know, moral victory.
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B
Good recall, good recall from the start last year. Very slow start.
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A
Very slow start.
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B
Very slow.
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C
I'm going to ride with you. Yeah, I mean, look, this is our parlay. So I got to ride with the boy. I got to back my boy. I'm thinking Oregon is his national champion. And then he's also, he's going Montana State out of the week one of college football.
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A
Yeah. Oregon, who also was the number one seed, won the Big Ten and then was in a dog fight with Idaho State and two other schlups. Who was it? Boise State. Yeah.
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C
Listen, again, I'm backing you, trust you.
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A
Take a couple, take a couple weeks to get Dante Moore, get him dialed in.
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B
Gotta ease in.
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A
Gonna have a couple headaches. There's always something in week one.
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B
Stay healthy.
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A
Always something going on in week one.
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C
I love it. This one, this parlay right here. Montana State plus 27 and a half. Ball State plus 18 and a half and Nebraska minus six and a half. That totals out to plus 568 on the FanDuel sportsbook. Gentlemen, what a time to be alive.
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A
Great show.
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C
Great show.
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A
Great show.
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C
Great show. Make sure you subscribe, you leave comments. Thank you for tuning in.
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A
Yep. Tag will. And a nut emoji he got got this week. We'll see you. We can get next week.
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C
I don't buy the call.
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A
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