Josh Pate Says Missouri Will Upset Vanderbilt + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan Disagree On Ole Miss

Summary

Bussin' With The Boys: Locker Room – College Football Gambling Show

Episode: Josh Pate Says Missouri Will Upset Vanderbilt + Will Compton & Taylor Lewan Disagree On Ole Miss
Date: October 22, 2025

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Main Theme

This episode is a spirited roundtable of college football betting, analysis, and predictions with Will Compton, Jeremy Klump, and college football insider Josh Pate. The crew debates the big matchups of the week, focusing on nuanced power rankings, rivalry game narratives, coaching carousel rumors, and the state of several blue-blood programs. They provide gambling picks, lively banter, and a dose of football culture—anchored with a classic “Separation Saturday” where picks could create some distance in the group’s head-to-head contest.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. The State of the Standings and Mindset for "Separation Saturday"

• Will is leading the group standings at 21-21, poking fun at his .500 record and joking about shaving his head if he wins.
• They dub this week “Separation Saturday,” hoping the tight race will finally open up some gaps.

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2. Josh Pate’s JP Poll Philosophy

• Discussion on the JP Poll: Josh Pate explains his method as a power rating, not a ranking, emphasizing "favorability" and not just results (05:34).

  “It's not a ranking. It's a power rating. What is power rating based on? Favorability…”
  —Josh Pate (05:57)

• Example: After BYU beats Utah, they aren’t moved above Utah since oddsmakers and Pate’s “model” would still favor Utah on a neutral field (06:39).

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3. The Value of Rivalry Names and College Football Culture

• Josh strongly defends classic rivalry names (Holy War, Farmageddon, World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party), pushing back against corporate or sanitized rebrands (08:02).

  “You can't let hall monitors run a sport... They take away great rivalry names.”
  —Josh Pate (08:02-08:35)

• The crew riffs on rivalry culture and the importance of maintaining college football traditions.

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4. Nebraska’s State of Mind After a Loss and the Importance of Culture

• Jeremy argues Nebraska must “respect the game” after an embarrassing loss, preaching the need for a “foxhole mentality” against Northwestern (15:03–19:47).

  “I'm riding with Nebraska because this is a foxhole game... That’s why I like them.”
  —Jeremy Klump (18:04–19:47)

• Josh’s pragmatic take: Nebraska’s season is still alive—if they win out, a 10-2 Nebraska is a playoff threat (20:00).

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5. Coaching Carousel: Lane Kiffin, Elko, and the Nature of Career Moves

• Josh believes Lane Kiffin would be Florida’s first choice if Napier is out, but speculates Kiffin must weigh legacy at Ole Miss vs. building anew at Florida (22:01–23:09).
• They discuss structural advantages at A&M and the idea that Elko would only leave for personal—not strictly football—reasons (24:25–26:30).

  “There is no football related reason why Mike Elko would leave Texas A and M for Penn State. It would have to be personal preference…”
  —Josh Pate (24:25)

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6. Game-by-Game Breakdown and Picks

BYU at Iowa State (27:00)

• All agree Iowa State (favored by 2.5) is the pick; they play the “wounded animal” card and trust ISU at home post-bye.

  “Iowa State needs it. Brigham Young just wants it.”
  —Josh Pate (27:37)

• Memorable analogy: urgency at “last call” in a college bar compared to ISU needing to “close” in this must-win (29:46).

Texas at Mississippi State (33:30)

• Will sides with Mississippi State +6.5 due to a strong ATS track record, while Jeremy and Josh reluctantly back Texas, but see it as an ugly, low-scoring cover (35:13–41:37).

  “This is a pissed off Steve Sarkeesian... I just like a pissed off Sark against Mississippi State.”
  —Jeremy Klump (36:41)

Texas A&M at LSU (42:11)

• Group consensus: Lean Texas A&M -2.5; skepticism of LSU’s fit under Brian Kelly and their inability to run the ball.

  “I think A&M goes in, they might end the Brian Kelly era.”
  —Will Compton (47:00)

• Josh dramatizes potential LSU fan reactions (“The uncomfortability factor...will go from like six to nine and a half… There will be changes…” 47:00).

Ole Miss at Oklahoma (51:38)

• Debate: Will backs Ole Miss's explosive offense (“I think Lane Kiffin gets 28 points out of that,” 52:25); Jeremy and Josh both take Oklahoma due to the run game, Mateer’s injury, and elite OU defensive pressure (Josh’s “crowbar theory”—when a defense can torpedo an elite offense, 59:19).

  “A sentence that has not come out of any of our mouths so far this year is ‘Oklahoma is going to win this game running the football,’… But I think Oklahoma is going to win this game running the football.”
  —Josh Pate (57:21) “[Oklahoma’s] defense can crowbar Ole Miss in a way that no one else they played this year could…”
  —Josh Pate (59:19)

Mizzou at Vanderbilt – "Game of the Week" (62:31)

• Will goes with the “magic” of underdog Vanderbilt; Jeremy and Josh take Mizzou, banking on their run game and telling stats about who Vandy’s defense has really stopped (65:44–67:57).

  “Something about Diego Pavia, with his wrestler brain, willing an SEC team into a contender conversation… I have to be here for it, even if my wallet might hurt…”
  —Will Compton (70:23–71:13) “If there’s a crack in this game, it’s that Vandy’s run defense, while statistically top 15, may not have been pressed like they will [by Mizzou].”
  —Josh Pate (68:11)

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7. Dogs of the Week & Hypotheticals

• Jeremy: UCLA +25.5 vs Indiana; Will: South Carolina +11.5 vs Alabama; Josh: Cal +4.5 at Virginia Tech.
• The group hypothesizes about UCLA’s wild playoff path if they pulled an upset (“If we think a 9-3 SEC team could make it, why not a Big Ten team with that resume?” —Josh Pate, 77:48).

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8. Rapid Fire & Wrapping Up

• Lively riff on possibly picking 15 games a week in November to break the logjam in their standings (61:10).
• Will drops his “professionally responsible” Michigan -14.5 pick against Michigan State, citing dominance in the trenches and calling for a Bryce Underwood breakout (81:18).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On College Football Culture:

  "You can't let hall monitors run a sport... They take away great rivalry names."
  —Josh Pate (08:02)

• On Nebraska's Playoff Hopes:

  “Will a 10 and 2 Big 10 ever be left out of the playoff? ... Therefore, maybe we're not so dead.”
  —Josh Pate (20:00)

• The “Wounded Animal” Theory:

  “Love a wounded animal…”
  —Josh Pate (27:37)

• Bar Analogy for Urgency:

  "That’s the urgency Iowa State has to have this weekend to close. The lights come on, you’re like, ‘Oh shit, the lights are on, gotta roll.’"
  —Jeremy Klump (29:46)

• On Coaching Moves:

  "There’s no football related reason why Mike Elko would leave Texas A&M for Penn State. It would have to be personal preference."
  —Josh Pate (24:25)

• On Ole Miss at Oklahoma:

  "A sentence that has not come out of any of our mouths so far this year is 'Oklahoma is going to win this game running the football'… But I think Oklahoma is going to win this game running the football.”
  —Josh Pate (57:21)

• On the “Crowbar Theory”:

  “…if you toss a crowbar in the bicycle spokes … the bike just stops. … If you're averaging 35 a game and you face an elite defense, you could go from scoring 35 to oh, we’ve got nine on the board in the fourth quarter. … you got crowbarred.”
  —Josh Pate (59:19)

• On the Mizzou/Vandy Game:

  “Something about Diego Pavia … with his wrestler brain, to will an SEC team into a contender conversation. Yet here we are.”
  —Will Compton (70:23)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• JP Poll/Power Ratings Philosophy: 05:34–06:45
• Rivalry and Hall Monitors: 08:02
• Nebraska Post-Minnesota Therapy: 15:03–19:47
• Coaching Carousel Discussion (Kiffin/Elko): 22:01–26:30
• Game-by-Game Picks Begin: 27:00
  • BYU at Iowa State: 27:00–31:13
  • Texas at Mississippi State: 33:30–41:37
  • Texas A&M at LSU: 42:11–49:32
  • Ole Miss at Oklahoma: 51:38–60:29
  • Mizzou at Vanderbilt: 62:31–71:13
• “Dogs of the Week”: 74:42–78:03
• Final Picks & Wrap-up: 81:10–83:16

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Tone & Style

The tone is irreverent, energetic, and sharply informed, mixing locker-room camaraderie with deep football knowledge and a gambler’s edge. Josh Pate brings weighty analysis and levity, while Will and Jeremy supply the emotional stakes of fans and former players. Banter is quick, humor is dry, and analogies are colorful—as befits “boys on the bus.”

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For Those Who Haven't Listened:

This episode runs the gamut from strategic betting logic and coaching rumors to the heart of college football culture and locker-room emotion. It’s essential tuning for any serious college football fan who wants analysis spiced with personality, insight, and wit.

Transcript

[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Jeremy Klump]

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[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pate]

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[Will Compton]

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[Jeremy Klump]

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[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pate]

I thought that just meant like you will head there.

[Will Compton]

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[Jeremy Klump]

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[Will Compton]

Let's get into the show.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, there's a lot of. There's a lot of chaos right now on the Internet. Ton with this man right here.

[Will Compton]

Josh pate's known to stir up the pot a little bit.

[Jeremy Klump]

The JP poll put together by, you guessed it, Josh Pate. Josh Pate puts these polls together himself. He handcrafts them. He doesn't use a method. It's like this is his opinion. And right now he's got. If you look at his JP poll, week nine edition, BYU just beat Utah. Utah. He's got Utah 16 in the top 20. BYU's not on it. He's got Texas and Oklahoma ahead of Mizzou.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. What's the question?

[Jeremy Klump]

The question is, where does your brain go when you're putting these lists together?

[Josh Pate]

Well, my. My brain goes to the model. First off, as the model puts it together. Secondly, now you know better than this.

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I do.

[Josh Pate]

You're the smart kid in the class that's acting dumb. You know what that's based on? What is it based on? JP Poll. What is it based on? Not rankings. It's power rating. What is power rating based on?

[Jeremy Klump]

Who?

[Josh Pate]

Favorability. So let's go to the Utah Brigham Young. First off, ton of BYU fans came at me because of you last week. Me? Yes. And tried to tell me American Primeval is not even based on real life. They just called it fiction.

[Will Compton]

That's exactly fiction.

[Josh Pate]

All right, so that's number one reason why they belong above Utah. According to.

[Will Compton]

But just for the record, you did see last week on the show, American Primeval is fat. And that is a perfect representation of Brigham Young and that religion.

[Josh Pate]

That's why I picked Utah.

[Will Compton]

Gotcha. Okay, keep going.

[Josh Pate]

More so Brigham Young than the religion itself.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

I want it to be noted. Secondly, correct me if I'm wrong. We picked this game last week. Was Utah favored by 3 1/2 at Brigham Young?

[Jeremy Klump]

Yes.

[Josh Pate]

Yes, they were. That implies about a six to a six and a half point gap on a neutral field, right?

[Jeremy Klump]

Yes.

[Josh Pate]

All right. The game was a three point game. Do we really believe in oddsmakers Land in fanduel land. That that shifted their perception of those teams. A solid touchdown. To where BYU would now be favored over Utah if they played this week. The answer is no, Correct? No, of course they wouldn't. So they still belong above Utah or Brigham Young. Cause they'd still be favored against them if they played today. That's the end.

[Jeremy Klump]

That's all. And look, I know it's never our fault. Like we picked that game. We actually did pick that game. When you watch that game, Utah was what, 1 for 5 on fourth down?

[Josh Pate]

Oh, that's not enough.

[Jeremy Klump]

8 plays, turnover on downs, 9 play drive, turnover on downs, 10 play drive turnover on downs. 12 play drive turnover on downs. No points. We get points there like that. Utah wins that game. Well, we're going to talk about by our BYU and Iowa State here in a second. But we did have that game pegged.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

We did what we were supposed to do. Those kids did not do what they were supposed to do.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

And they screwed it up.

[Will Compton]

They made this show look bad.

[Josh Pate]

We were on the right side.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, we were.

[Will Compton]

What are your thoughts on that rivalry being called the Holy War and both schools wearing all red and all blue.

[Josh Pate]

I love the name Holy War.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

I'm not a strong lean either way on color of uniforms.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Josh Pate]

But I will roll with whatever anyone wants to roll with there. I just think it's very important to note. I'm not sure I pointed this out last week. I think I did at one point. Anyway, let me reiterate because we got to call these people out. You can't let hall monitors run a sport. And there are certain hall monitor types behind the scenes in college football that want to do away with the name Holy War. Kind of like they want to do away with Farmageddon. Kind of like they tried to do away with world's largest outdoor cocktail party. Red River Shootout has gone the way of the hall monitor Civil War. Yeah. Civil War may not even exist as a game period for too much longer. So we can't lose the Holy War.

[Jeremy Klump]

You know the power you get when you are the hall monitor though, or the lion leader.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. The only power you'll ever have in life like you do have some power. The trade off is you'll never elevate above hall monitor in life. So you got to exercise that power. And that's how college football hall monitors exercise power. They take away great rivalry names and they go sell a watered down rivalry name to some third party advertiser and slap the logo on the field and everyone hates it.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, I do. Everybody watching the show. We appreciate you guys being here. If you are watching, you're not subscribed, please make sure that you are subscribed. I want everybody to know that I am. If you guys want to join me, I'm boycotting Josh Pate's show.

[Josh Pate]

Oh my goodness.

[Jeremy Klump]

I saw the Sarah McLaughlin special.

[Josh Pate]

McLaughlin.

[Jeremy Klump]

Sarah McLaughlin special with Nebraska. And that's where I kind of had to draw a line in the sand. Because you sat here preseason, you claimed yourself to be the number one Nebraska guy in Nashville. And so when I saw that number one, I thought it was fraudulent. When you were doing that in the beginning. And it was just trying to pour into this psyche that we have going on. And I thought you were a foxhole guy, but that moment when I saw you drop that clip, I no longer feel like you're a foxhole guy with me.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. I feel like we were in the foxhole and we died Friday night.

[Jeremy Klump]

No.

[Josh Pate]

That's what I feel like. I feel like PJ Fleck found the foxhole and PJ Fleck went both sides of the foxhole.

[Jeremy Klump]

Now that happened. I know we're not dead.

[Josh Pate]

I know I'm dead. You don't know you're dead. Like one of several great movies that Hollywood has produced. He doesn't know that he's dead. I know I'm dead. And so I'll ask you. This boycott is hurting me. The loss hurt me. The boycott's hurting me. It's affecting my bottom line. Okay. I need you.

[Jeremy Klump]

You're gonna see and you're gonna feel this hit to your should.

[Josh Pate]

But I want to ask you, on the Sarah McLachlan Laughlin special, did I lie? All I did was read a stat sheet.

[Jeremy Klump]

You didn't lie. But all the games that are out there, all the teams that could have had the Sarah McLaughlin special could have been Nutmeier.

[Josh Pate]

It could have been. I went to choose.

[Jeremy Klump]

You wanted just to pour salt in the wound to Husker Nation.

[Josh Pate]

But I didn't lie.

[Jeremy Klump]

I'm trying to wrap my head around. I'm stuck on your saying we're dead.

[Josh Pate]

I'm dead.

[Jeremy Klump]

That's the one that's got me spiced up right now.

[Will Compton]

So we started with something that got you spiced up, and you realize there's another ingredient that's double spicy.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, there's another double spice.

[Will Compton]

This has got a little too much.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

This is Woody talking to Buzz Lightyear, trying to tell him he's a toy. You're Woody. That's what this is right now.

[Jeremy Klump]

You know, we are.

[Will Compton]

These are two toys on the bed having an argument.

[Jeremy Klump]

And I'm.

[Will Compton]

I'm the little boy in the other hallway waiting for my birthday to start.

[Jeremy Klump]

I'm the guy where the. The helmet goes up.

[Josh Pate]

I like. We had a tightrope. We had a tight rope. We had to walk. And we.

[Will Compton]

We fell dot on.

[Jeremy Klump]

Everybody's just standing there.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I'm the pig. I'm kind of just there for. To hang out every once in a while and say. I have one liners, so go ahead, guys.

[Josh Pate]

We fell off the tightrope.

[Jeremy Klump]

We fell off the tightrope. We got hit in the mouth. We got hit in the mouth.

[Josh Pate]

But you get right against Northwestern, right? Yes, definitely.

[Jeremy Klump]

You got to be pissed off in that facility. Everything that I've seen, we're right where we need to be going into this game. It is a moment. This is the most important week of our year.

[Josh Pate]

Are we really right where we need to be?

[Jeremy Klump]

I think the way I see the culture and the way I see the team responding at the moment, you just hope the product reflects what you feel when you watch everything kind of unfold throughout the week. Rules on the stand. When Butler's on the stand with Raiola, with Luke, all the players talking, I feel like I know what that feels like.

[Josh Pate]

Here's my concern. I've got 10 fingers and I only need six of them to count how many points we scored at Minnesota. Yeah, that's a problem. I really don't feel like we're where we need to be.

[Jeremy Klump]

I know, I know. He's Dylan Stewart standing over me right now, like, just. He made a good play. He made a great play. But why you gotta sit there and empty the clip on my chest?

[Josh Pate]

I hope you're right.

[Jeremy Klump]

I hope I am, too. Cause I'm taking them in our parlay this week.

[Will Compton]

I was gonna say, I have the parlay here. I know this is an odd time to start the parlay for the show, but since we're already talking about one of the teams in the parlay, should we just quickly say our parlays before we get to these games?

[Jeremy Klump]

Quickly say the bus went the boys parlay. Do the boys. Are you guys comfortable?

[Will Compton]

You guys okay with that?

[Jeremy Klump]

I know it's a little mess of the production.

[Will Compton]

I'm going San Diego State. They're playing Fresno State minus two and a half. This is the battle of the old oil camp.

[Josh Pate]

At Fresno.

[Will Compton]

At Fresno.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Wow.

[Jeremy Klump]

This is what you seeing with these two ball clubs? This is a historic Fresno.

[Will Compton]

This is a historic rivalry started in 1931. I got. I saw. I was looking for parlays. I saw that this is actually a rivalry game. And it's like the old oil can. It's a trophy game. And I thought, I need to be a part of this. That's my answer.

[Jeremy Klump]

You went in on that action?

[Will Compton]

Don't know any players. SDSU Aztecs. Darren Mugi went there. High school teammate onward.

[Josh Pate]

You ever think to yourself, let's take myself back to 1931.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

America is in the throes of the Great Depression. And somewhere out in California, someone in San Diego and someone in Fresno Said we got some colleges. This country needs a rivalry right now.

[Will Compton]

Hell yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Name it after an oil drum. And we're still going to be in poverty for another decade as a country. But this begins the resurgence. In other words, we're right where we.

[Will Compton]

Need to be when everything else fails. Lean on the rivalry games. Yeah, that's what makes America great.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. I've taken Nebraska -7 and a half.

[Will Compton]

Now. I wish I was hoping for a notepad and a pen and I was going to take Klum's glasses and sit here and talk to you guys about what just transpired yesterday. You were talking about how Northwestern and Northwestern's a good ball club. Sure, the casual fan is going to look at the logo and be like, bad team. But I hear you talking about Northwestern, talking to all the guys about Northwestern, and then I get a text from Klump at 11 o' clock at night being like, hey, we still need your parlay pick. This is who. This is who Pate's got. This is who Will's got. And you took Nebraska. How did you get to. I'm nervous about Nebraska to their covering seven and a half.

[Jeremy Klump]

I'm not nervous about Nebraska.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Jeremy Klump]

My thought, all of my thoughts that come to my head when I saw what happened on Friday night is we got our ass whooped against Minnesota. They. They beat our ass. They ran it down our throat in the second half. And you saw you sit there and you're watching the game and the nerves are more of, we're five and two. We were also at this spot last year. We've been at this spot, you know, a couple different years. But people are out there questioning if Nebraska has actually taken a step in the, in the rule year three era. And so what I've seen from this team is we won. We were three and one going into Minnesota with one score games, which is again, if you look at, if the absolute sickos of Nebraska know how important this new standard and culture, how it's all coming together, how important those wins are, whether or not you sit there and argue. And you can argue that it's Michigan State and it's Maryland, Maryland's a tough team. They kind of struggle in October. Michigan State kind of seems like they're dying now. They were spicy for a second. So for me, I sit there and watch it and I see the way we got beat on Friday night. And what my mentality goes to is. And you hear it from everybody talking. I want to say, Luke, the tight end, we thought we were going to, you know, we're going to go in there like we're performing. It was like for a show or entertainment, like we're going to beat this team. We weren't prepared for a 60 minute fight. So that goes into line with my thought process of maybe the boys were feeling themselves a little bit going into this game because again they were three, three and one, three one score games that they've won, they've won well, they've played better in the second half when they have those lapses in the middle of the game. They figured it out, which again in the past Nebraska's found a way to kind of soil it kind of just pissed down their leg. And so my thought process going into this game, it's not nerves that we can't, that we can't handle this team. It's you can't walk in against Northwestern with the same mentality and the same attitude that you had against Minnesota because Luke and everybody else is right. Like you have to prepare. Variable would tell us all the time whenever we'd win a game that nationally, national, media wise, we shouldn't have won and we win, we come in and play down to an opponent who's inferior to us and then we end up getting beat. And Bray would sit up there and say, guys, we can't, I've told you all year long, we can't just show up and beat a team because we think we have a better roster than them. And I think it's the same exact thing with Nebraska. I think the guys have had their head down and it's just get back to fucking work. Because we're not just going to walk out there and win because we have better weapons on the outside. We had the number one pass defense in the country at one point. Like, you can't believe that hype because you're going to have to put it on film each and every week. And people are out there now questioning whether we've taken a step and each kid in that locker room or each guy in that locker room and everybody on that staff, because you can feel it in all the pressers, they know to a man that we've all been challenged. And so to me, when you go out there against Northwestern on Saturday morning, what's this?

[Josh Pate]

This is what I needed. Keep going. No, you're rolling. Keep going, keep going.

[Will Compton]

I looked over at Peyton to check his temperature. We ended up catching eyes at the same time. I think we both are the exact same thing.

[Jeremy Klump]

But it's legitimately, when you walk out there on Saturday morning, this Team. Everybody else, you know, it's been. The poison's been around our shop. I talk about this game with this urgency and Cooper Comstock sitting there. It's like, oh, it's Northwest. You guys are going to handle this team. And it's like, no, that's the fucking mentality. That's got to be out. That's got to be gone. Because this team is. They're five and two. They're two losses. Oregon, they lost by 20 at Oregon. It was close in the first half, and then they lost to Tulane, who that head coach has been in every conversation for a job, for a promotional job, and they lost to Tulane in week one. Every other game Northwestern's handled, you could talk about, oh, Penn State's down. They, you know, they. They died against Oregon. They dropped one against ucla. You know, everybody on that roster was still like, everybody still wants to play. Well, they still beat a good roster in Penn State. Who'd they beat last week? 19. Nothing. Perdue. Like, this team can do the exact same thing. If you don't respect this game and you don't respect the team. So what my belief is on this Nebraska covering in Nebraska -7.5, is we're going into this game not only respecting the team, but respecting the game and respecting the work that you have to put in to beat somebody's ass on Saturday. That's what I'm believing in. So I'm riding with Nebraska because this is a foxhole game. Let everybody else with all the question marks and everything, that's just. That's the world. That's what's going to happen. There's a lot of noise right now around Nebraska, and it's how you respond this weekend. And I'm going to love the way we respond. Cause I'm gonna. I'm there. I'm with them. I'm on the fucking team. That's why I like them. Josh Pate.

[Will Compton]

This is why we should. I'm happy we started with the weekly parlay because I don't know if that kind of energy is there at the end of all five of those games.

[Josh Pate]

Here's what we know, though. Nebraska's in what conference?

[Jeremy Klump]

The Big Ten.

[Josh Pate]

Nebraska has how many losses right now?

[Jeremy Klump]

Two.

[Josh Pate]

If Nebraska wins the remainder of its games, their record will be 10.

[Jeremy Klump]

2.

[Josh Pate]

Will a 10 and two big 10 ever be left out of the playoff?

[Jeremy Klump]

No.

[Josh Pate]

Therefore, maybe we're not so dead.

[Jeremy Klump]

So I might need something from you next week. We handle business.

[Will Compton]

I just. Maybe I come back out. Yeah, just missing a limb Tis a flesh.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Still room in there for me?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. That's how foxholes work.

[Jeremy Klump]

Hey, guess what?

[Josh Pate]

You come, you go. You come, you go. That's how foxholes work.

[Jeremy Klump]

There's always going to be room for you.

[Will Compton]

That is crazy. That is the most insane five minutes of a show I have ever seen.

[Josh Pate]

I quit.

[Will Compton]

That was an entire show.

[Josh Pate]

Well, we're dead. Well, I'm gone. But we're gonna win this week. We could still make the playoff. Can I come back in? I got you, bro. I got you.

[Will Compton]

All right. And you're taking Arkansas.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Give me the pigs. Hugh Freeze is done. Give me. Give me Arkansas.

[Will Compton]

You're done with your. Hugh Freeze is done.

[Josh Pate]

He will lose his job if lose this game.

[Jeremy Klump]

Man, I tried jumping on that pick with you too.

[Will Compton]

Win. You're saying?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I'm taking Arkansas. Yeah. I'm taking Arkansas. It crossed zero. Arkansas minus one and a half. It opened at Arkansas plus one and a half.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

I think Arkansas is going to win. They've played two competitive games. Like, they pushed Tennessee, they pushed A and M last week. Auburn is. They have not quit. Like, Auburn's playing hard. They're just not a great team. And they're going to go up there. Auburn people call Fayetteville, Fayette Nam because of how tough it's been for them to play up there over the years. And I think it lives up to its name this week. And then I think before the plane's even back in Lee County, I think you got a lot of smoke around Hugh Free. There's already a lot of smoke.

[Jeremy Klump]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

So I think if they lose this game, then there's probably going to be action down there. So keep an eye on that.

[Will Compton]

Okay. Is this the first week we've been together or the first time we've been together since Billy Napier? Was that last week?

[Josh Pate]

This is the first time.

[Jeremy Klump]

This is the first time we've all been together since.

[Josh Pate]

But we assumed it last week.

[Will Compton]

And that's your boy.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Do we thinking for sure. This is Lane Kiffin. He's going to Florida.

[Josh Pate]

I think for sure. It's his job to turn down.

[Will Compton]

Really.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. I said. And I will maintain this. I don't know if he has fully made his mind up yet. Now, there's a difference. As we have said on the show before, there's a difference in someone theoretically puts a scenario in front of you and you have a thought versus someone puts an offer on paper in front of you and you have to actually sign on the dotted line. So even if he thinks, yeah, I'm probably gonna take the job. You don't know until they put the offer in front of you, and then you've got an Ole Miss counteroffer, and then you've weighed in your mind, how much does legacy matter to me? Because if he stays in Oxford, he'll win for a long time and they'll name streets after him and he'll be set for life. Right. Or there's the fork in the road. That's one path. The other path is legacy. I can just go make a new one at Florida. And maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But I really. I think I can win a national title there. I don't know if I can win one at Ole Miss. Now the Ole Miss people will say, landscape's changed, man. This is not 15 years ago. There's not a whole lot of separation between these programs. It's just who has the best nil structure. And by the way, low key. We've got a better one than Florida. And Florida says, yeah, but we could back up a brink struck. You never could. We just want to harness it to the right guy. That's a bunch of smoke. You got to clear it. You got to see where your heart's at. But he's going to have to tell them no before they move on to number two, who I think would be Eli Drinkwitz. Who would take the job? I believe so It's a very short list. I don't think they're going to get past one or two names.

[Jeremy Klump]

Okay, I agree with you on the structure, too. I was talking to somebody about even A and M, like Elko and his. His name coming up and stuff. Obviously, we've had the. The rule conversations as well. I very much believe that. It's like if you're Lane Kiffin and you're at Ole Miss and all those things are laid out and you have all the N structure supporting the world, it's not like you're making move now for logos because of recruiting and everything else. It's all tied more to money. And if you have your system in place, you feel good about where you're at and everybody behind you is giving you whatever you need, nil, structure wise. Why would you leave. Why would you leave a program that honestly could compete year in and year out for a national title like an Ole Miss, just to not joke with the Nebraska stuff, but like an Ole Miss, like a Texas A and M? Why would you move from. Is there a reason that Elko would want to move from an A and M, when you basically have all this support in the world and it's you're in the SEC right now, you are showing that you're the number one team in the sec.

[Josh Pate]

There is no football related reason why Mike Elko would leave Texas A and M for Penn State. It would have to be personal preference. And I know a lot of people have tried to sell on there being an easier path to the playoff in the Big Ten. First off, you don't know that that's always going to be static. And secondly, is that really how a competitor is thinking to begin with? The very nature of the guy who's qualified to be your head coach is that of a 1% or a 0.1% alpha competitor. Those people don't sit around thinking where's the easiest path possible? That's not even how those people are wired. So I don't think that weighs into it. Now, if he's from the Northeast and he just wants to get back there. If your wife's family. I'm just making this up. If your wife's family lives there, if you prefer cold weather, like that kind of stuff's not football related, just happens to work in your favor. The football related stuff like A and M is a better job than Penn State.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Josh Pate]

Not miles better, but it's a better job than Penn State.

[Jeremy Klump]

Especially because it's A and M's kind of established right now to where you have to go and fix something.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. And think about this. They've got all the resources in the world, but no one's ever really harnessed it properly. Like people have harnessed Alabama, people have harnessed Florida, People have. Who's really taken Texas A and M? Cause it really hasn't been this caliber a job until the last 15 or so years. Like Johnny Manziel changed that place. So A and M post Manziel versus pre Manziel is two different things. So anyone who throws out the past 60 years. I don't care about the past 60 years. There they've been what they are now about the past 10 or 15 years. And they've made poor hires in the past 10 or 15 years. So you've still got an opportunity all the way in 2025. This sport's been around a long time. We've gotten all the way to 2025. And no one's legendary name is synonymous with Texas A and M football. The way that Darrell Royal is in Austin, the way Bo or Woody or whoever, Bear Bryant, Nick Saban, you could become that at Texas A and M and you're not working from behind the eight ball. You've got all the resources and it's just a wide open frontier and you can go stake your claim.

[Jeremy Klump]

Great point, Josh.

[Will Compton]

Beautifully said.

[Jeremy Klump]

Josh, should we get to some games?

[Will Compton]

Let's get to some games.

[Jeremy Klump]

We got our first matchup. Number 11 team in the country, BYU, one of six undefeated teams left traveling to Iowa State. Iowa State is on a two game road losing streak right now. They dropped their last two games. Right now Iowa State is favored at home by two and a half. The over under on this game is 48 and a half. Gentlemen, who'd like to kick this off?

[Josh Pate]

Well, it's a letdown spot. Obviously. You just had a rivalry game. If you're Brigham Young, you've got to go on the road against the team off a bye. On the downside for Iowa State, they've got several injuries, some guys out for the season. It's the Big 12. It is anybody's game any given week. I think that after those two losses, you talk about, you guys talk about losing a game going into the bye week all the time. What about losing two games going into the bye? And those were your first two losses of the season. And you know, now your back's against the wall. You like the wounded animal. Love a wounded animal.

[Will Compton]

Love the wounded animal.

[Josh Pate]

This is a, this is an animal that's been wounded for really three weeks if you think about it. It has to get right. And you just had a big rivalry win and now you're going to come all the way across the country to face us and we're rested and we've got to have it. And you guys know you can afford to lose. Iowa State needs it. Brigham Young just wants it. And so I'm going to take Iowa State to win the game and cover.

[Will Compton]

I like it. Something about Iowa State, something. The way you talk about that head coach juices me up. But I remember week zero across the pond in Ireland, them going against Kansas State. Will Compton's favorite to win the Big 12. At that point, we didn't know what Kansas State was, but I fell in love with a quarterback named Rocco Becht and I believe in him today. And I will also be going to Iowa State. Plus they get their running back, Carson Hansen back and he's got 4.4 yards per carry.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, I was up in the air about this game. Just because you watch Iowa State against Cincinnati a couple weeks ago, you know, Cincinnati was able to run the ball very well. BYU is a team that wants to run the football, set up their play action pass, hit you with deep bombs. But again, when I rattle off their game against Utah and Utah failing to get points out of all these turnovers on downs like I know BYU 7 and oh, Fanduel had them preseason. They're over under on the season with six and a half wins. They've hit that. They've had a hell of a year. They're going into the meat of their schedule now and you know you'd sit there, you could sit there and play a game tour they end up seven and five because they're playing who they got Texas Tech, tcu, Iowa State, Cincinnati. I forget who the fifth one is. I like Iowa State here because you boys know I love wounded animals. This a Rocco Beck game. It's a Rocco bet game. This is also a challenge for that second level on Iowa State because you can't allow this team to have success on the ground to put yourself in that vulnerable state for those play action shots and the things that BYU wants to do to win this game. But them going on the road to Iowa State, Iowa State hasn't. They've only lost one home game since the start of last year. I love Iowa State in this spot minus two and a half. They got to come out with urgency. You got to have such an urgency in this game to where it's like, you guys know when you're back, you're in college and you're at the bar and them lights come on at the end when it's closing down, those lights come on. That urgency to close, to make your moves, it's there. That's the urgency Iowa State has to have this weekend to closes.

[Will Compton]

You're 100% right. You're spot on with that.

[Jeremy Klump]

The lights come on.

[Will Compton]

The lights come on. You're like, if old girl's not by.

[Jeremy Klump]

You around you, you kind of had some flirtations going on. It's like, oh shit, the lights are on. It's. It's like two in the morning, we got to get rolling because you know.

[Will Compton]

Three, four hours ago you felt real good about the situation being like, let me just see what else may be out here. And then the lights come on, you're like, where is she? Yeah, where are they?

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. At this point, that's the urgency. Iowa State's going to have. Iowa State minus two and a half.

[Will Compton]

That's fantastic. Can I ask more question for you since you're a Big 12 guy, if BYU loses the game against Utah, Utah capitalizes on those points and not having Turnovers. Does this game look differently to you?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, well, the dynamics would.

[Will Compton]

You're saying if BYU lost against Utah. Oh, now we have two wounded animals we're looking at.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Which wounded animal is more of a pissed off.

[Josh Pate]

Yes. That's American Primeval.

[Will Compton]

I wasn't gonna say it.

[Josh Pate]

It's big 12 primeval.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. This is big 12 primeval, and that.

[Josh Pate]

Is a real thing. Unlike American Primeval, which according to Twitter, is not a real thing.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Jeremy Klump]

And not only the three weeks of sitting on a loss, which is on, which is obviously brutal, but also I would say, like, if you're going to stay and you're going to have a shot with the Big 12, like, this is an absolute must win.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Have to have it. Have to have it. Finally, Michelob Ultra. This whole Superior light beer.

[Jeremy Klump]

Superior bragging rights.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Superior is worth playing for. Super Michelob Ultra. Superior light beer. Let me tell you guys a story real quick. This card, it's basically like you and we'll have a little bit of a competition. Great. We're going to read the card. It's fun. Now all of a sudden, it's become a legitimate competition where we fight for michelobulcho. What's the record? You're five and three against me. That's the record. And now Will and I will take rock, paper, scissors to a whole new level. Winner of this gets a Michelob Ultro.

[Jeremy Klump]

Rock, paper, scissors.

[Will Compton]

Shoot. Superior's worth playing for. Middle of Ultra Superior light beer. I am now 4 and 5.

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[Will Compton]

The next game. Number 22, Texas at Mississippi State. Texas is favored by what, six and a half points total in that is 44 and a half. I'm not super familiar with Mississippi State. I know they took Tennessee down to the wire. I know they got kind of roasted and destroyed by Texas A and M. And then you look at Texas and it's like, for whatever reason, they're still in it. But all year we've been talking trash about Arch Manning or people have been talking.

[Josh Pate]

Yes, people have not.

[Will Compton]

People have not us. River rivalry happens. They had. They. They drop one there.

[Jeremy Klump]

Red River.

[Will Compton]

Red River Shootout.

[Jeremy Klump]

And outside of Sam Houston, they kind of. Texas struggles to put 20 points on the board.

[Will Compton]

Right. And that's where I lean on Mississippi State and my baby Popper Stat. Mississippi State is undefeated against the spread when they're dogs by 10 or less. That is what we're sitting in right now. And for that reason, I'll be taking Mississippi State.

[Josh Pate]

Wow.

[Jeremy Klump]

Undefeated.

[Will Compton]

Undefeated against the spread when they are dogs of 10 or less points.

[Jeremy Klump]

How far, may I ask, how far that goes back?

[Will Compton]

Undefeated.

[Josh Pate]

That sounds like in all of history.

[Will Compton]

Undefeated have not lost 10 or fewer. You think to yourself, well, A and M, they blew them.

[Jeremy Klump]

I'm thinking to myself, Is this a 20, 25 stat or is this. Does this date back?

[Josh Pate]

Undefeated.

[Will Compton]

Undefeated. Will. Undefeated. You say yourself Texas is going to have a hard time putting up more than 20 points a game. Their defense is good. They kind of find a way. They do a good job of getting explosives. They can be sneaky in the run game like undefeated.

[Jeremy Klump]

But Texas's defense is elite. I don't think Mississippi State will be able to move the ball. They're one of the. They're. They're towards the bottom in rush defense. And I know we've had our question marks. You've challenged this running game at Texas. I think Texas will be able to run the football against this team. It is six and a half points. Got a boy right here.

[Will Compton]

He's off today.

[Jeremy Klump]

But this, this is a Texas offense game right here. This is where it comes alive.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

This is where you start to. All right, maybe Texas is going to compete for this SEC championship. This is Texas minus six and a half.

[Will Compton]

Were you thinking that last week even though we didn't talk about the game versus Kentucky?

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Thinking this is a Texas offense that comes alive this week.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. If we talked about that game last week, you would have probably heard the same shit out of my mouth.

[Will Compton]

Because the thing I get into is like, if we're going to look at some of these games and we're going to. There's one specific game I'm kind of looking at, we'll talk about in the next one or two is a lot of people are like, this is when the offense gets going. This is when. And it's like, I know we're more than halfway through. People have been battle tested. This is not week one where they played a really good defense, but the play, it's like we kind of know what teams are at this point. And for me to look at Texas and be like, this is where they put up 35 points. They're going to cover. Like, I think Texas knows they're going to have to play great defense. They're going to have to figure out a way to run the ball even though they haven't been very good in that situation and win games close. Yeah, that's the way they're going to win games.

[Jeremy Klump]

It's. I really like a pissed off Sark. Like he's got a meter to where he can kind of be pissed off all the time. I think his. The tempo on this game, his meter, his pissed off meter is as high as it can be because now he's getting questioned about being a play caller while he's the head coach. They're like, hey, don't you have an oc? They're kind of questioning him calling plays on offense. And you can just feel that this is a very much. This is a pissed off Steve Sarkeesian. So that mixed with the things that I was saying, like, I just like a. I like a pissed off Sark here. I love a pissed off Sark. Especially against Mississippi State. Again, they've had it. They've had an awesome year. They're great in explosive plays. But again, this is an elite Texas defense and where Texas, they've kind of struggled everywhere offensively. Like we talked about, the guys that it seemed like they might have had on paper and what they really are right now, they don't have a lot of weapons. The O line has struggled. Running backs, you were rattling off the stats when they were going into Oklahoma. Like, yo, you're Texas like running backs had however many carries, like, you know, averaging very low number of yards. I just think against this Mississippi State rush defense, this is where this team can find success with their pissed off head coach calling plays and it comes alive a little bit to where next week it could be a conversation that they're in the sec.

[Josh Pate]

Here's what concerns me. I do agree with how pissened Sark must be to have his play calling, his identity really his humanity questioned if we think about it. Because that is Steve Sarkeesian to us, a great play caller. Most of us don't. I do know him personally but. But he is a play caller to me first and foremost. So he's got that questioned about him. On the flip side, think about how many times Mississippi State's been close this year. They had Tennessee on the ropes at home. They let him off the hook. They go down to Florida. Last week that game was such a Mississippi State win that Florida fired their coach even though they won the game. That's how close it was at the end. They've been close and you got to get a signature win. They've got to find the signature win somewhere. This would be the spot to do it. Texas is struggling to top 20 points like you just said. For all the talk about Sark and his offense, Jeff Lebby thinks every bit as highly of himself. He's not at Texas, he's at Mississippi State. But Lebby was at Oklahoma. He was the one pulling the levers when they were rolling first year under Brent Venables out there and he's at, he's at Mississippi State now and it's year two and they got to have it. And I was really on the fence about this one, but I think in my mind, okay, some totals or some, some final scores like 23 to 16 covers for Texas, 20 to 13, 23 to 14 like those cover for Texas. I think they're going to be ugly again this week. There's no statement from Texas. I don't think of it as that kind of game. I think of it as a lower scoring, rock fight, ugly kind of game and Texas just somehow squeezes enough juice out of the orange to win by seven or more. But you still have every bit as many questions about them. This is a back to back road stretch for them. Second leg of back to back road games here. I think Texas is going to cover, but I don't have a lot of confidence and I don't think it's going to be pretty even if they do.

[Will Compton]

So this is a game to you that you're not pulling out the FanDuel Sportsbook app and betting on yourself. You're talking about it because you come on the show and this is one of the games you have to talk about.

[Josh Pate]

This is what we call a jks, a Jeremy Klump special.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. This is a game. I'm only picking.

[Will Compton]

A special for the sake of time. This can be rhetorical, but do you think it's Sark, it's the play calling that people should worry about, or is it Sark trying to mask Arch and the possible shoulder and maybe the limitations that he has right now?

[Josh Pate]

I absolutely think it's limitation.

[Will Compton]

Gotcha. Not Sark.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, well, I mean, Sark. Sark. I absolutely think it's limitation.

[Will Compton]

Okay, so you think this is an arch issue. Arch Manning is a problem.

[Josh Pate]

It's not just arch.

[Will Compton]

It's.

[Josh Pate]

I mean, Arch is under fire every other play too. So it's the guys in front of him.

[Jeremy Klump]

Not, I would say not struggles.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Like they just fundamentally. We talked about this a month ago. They just fundamentally misevaluated whether or whether or not they needed to go to the portal for O line help and they decided we don't. We trust our guys in house. And they were. They were either wrong about that or they realized there's not a lot of help we can go get right now. Either way, they kind of are what they are. Like what you just said, we're past mid October. It's. We're past the time of waiting for teams to hit their stride. Yeah, they. They just are who they are. And so at this point it can only get worse. Really. Like at this point, if you're limited offensively, you can only get worse because you can only get injured and banged up. So I just don't know that Texas is that team that's going to surge in November. Somebody is. I just don't know that. I just don't know if quarterback and offensive line and lack of elite speed at receiver lend to you all of a sudden finding yourself in October, November.

[Will Compton]

It's crazy that those three position groups are an issue at the University of Texas.

[Jeremy Klump]

Crazy.

[Josh Pate]

Maybe a one year deal only, but.

[Jeremy Klump]

Crazy where I'm at mentally. I have nothing but hope for teams to hit their stride in the back half of the year. Texas A and M at LSU. A&M ranked 3 in the country. LSU has failed to 20th in the country. Right now, A and M is favored by two and a half. The over under on this game is 47 and a half. Texas A and M minus 2 and a half. LSU was on fraud alert for me back at the Florida game.

[Will Compton]

They've been on fraud alert for you since Clemson.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, you. You flagged this?

[Jeremy Klump]

You have? Yeah, I flag this. Clearly I flagged this early. Especially when Clemson law. Who. Who did Clemson ended up losing to in like week two or three?

[Josh Pate]

Georgia Tech.

[Jeremy Klump]

Georgia Tech. Like that. That moment right there. Oh, is LSU even that good? Vandy handled him. I do have a lot of. I was liking what I saw from number 14, the tight end for LSU. Tough dude to tackle. You got to get him the ball as much as you can. I like A and M here.

[Will Compton]

I just a Kyle Pitts looking type of tight end.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. Where he kind of look. Yeah, longer kind of looks. A couple times he caught it. I'm like, man, who's this receiver? Then I realized he's a tight end. But this is. This is. I like Texas A and M. I like Texas A and M here. I don't have a whole lot of thought other than just like, I've watched LSU play enough to know they're not beating this A and M team to where I know A and M is not going to let this opportunity this weekend slip out of their hands when it comes to staying at the top of the SEC and with two and a half points. Yeah, I just don't think LSU is going to do it. And I think it's like, I think like the majority of that fan base, they're going to be there, suck my tiger dick, all that stuff. Because it's, you know, it's going to be a night game, it's going to be rocking, but the moment it goes the least bit sideways, the conversation is going to go back to how much Brian Kelly is not the right fit at lsu.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Jeremy Klump]

I think the. I think weirdly, I think internally they feel it and we all know externally they feel it, but I think it becomes even more of an open wound after this Saturday night in LSU when Texas A and M beats them.

[Josh Pate]

Let me present a couple of scenarios to you, please. Scenario A, LSU wounded animal, back against the wall, plays with their hair on fire. Plays the best game they've played all year. They harness the power of Tiger Stadium at night, where Brian Kelly is 20 and one at LSU and it's a spectacle. It's like bam against Tennessee last week. And everyone's like, wow, dude, no one was going in there and winning on this night. And all's well that ends well. And they're six and two and they emerge from this game in the thick of the playoff race, in the thick of the SEC championship race. That's the first scenario.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Kind of drinks me up too, with that stat. That's a popper.

[Josh Pate]

All right, so let me burst the bubble.

[Jeremy Klump]

Go ahead.

[Josh Pate]

There is a really, really violently different second scenario that I've seen happen at Tiger Stadium before. You. You're. You're continuing to buy in. Like, maybe you're skeptical about Brian Kelly and maybe you're skeptical about the offense, but I'm going to show up. I'm an LSU fan, I'm a season ticket holder. I got a job to do. It's Saturday night in Death Valley. A and M's coming in. Kind of a low key rivalry vibe in this game, by the way, that the nation doesn't realize. And it starts poorly and we're down 14 0. And we've showed, even in games we win, we score like 20 points. So we already feel like we're behind the eight ball. That place will empty out and the ones that remain will make it so toxic because they will, they will have been taken advantage of. They will have been played for fools again. And they will use the entire second half of that game to voice their displeasure. And all the power brokers are in their suites listening to it. And the AD is in his box listening to it. And Brian Kelly is on the field listening to it. They got a bunch of recruits in town for this game listening to it. Nothing turns a questionable situation sour more quickly than a bad home performance doubly, especially for lsu. Okay, so we've either got the sugar high offense or we've got a sustainable offense. Sugar high. As you remember, last week, they popped one long run.

[Will Compton]

Yep.

[Josh Pate]

Got to the one yard line and still couldn't punch the ball in. But that was, that was what they had to rely on. There was not a lot of sustainability. They still haven't had a 100 yard rusher the entire year, so they faced some teams that they can trust not to pull away from them. A and M may be able to pull away from you. Like, I trust Blake Baker defensively, but you can't keep asking defense to bail you out. And so if LSU can't run the ball again and they're relying on Nussmeyer slash Nutmeyer to bail him out again and he's clearly not 100% and they're not leveraging their playmakers nearly as effectively as Texas A and M does. A and M is going to score. Like, I'm a believer that there's a certain caliber of offense in football that no defense is going to totally shut down, they're going to get some. So I'm relying on A and m to find 27 points. I don't know if LSU can answer with 28. I think a and M is going to go in there and win. I think they're going to cover. And I think the uncomfortability rating, the uncomfortability factor is going to go from like six to nine and a half. And I think there will be changes that Brian Kelly is asked to make, at the very least internally. And I don't know that he'll do it because it's his program at the end of the day. But I think that'll all be downstream of this result. I think A and M's going to win and cover. Still undefeated coming out of Baton Rouge.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I agree. I've talked to like A multiple A and M fans. I was at Brazilian Jiu Jitsu with my daughter last night and there was two A&M fans they were talking about. This is when, as a fan of Texas A and M, this is when it all falls apart for us. Happens every year we get high and then all of a sudden this happens. I disagree with them. I agree with you guys. I think A and M goes in, they might end the Brian Kelly era. And they watch the Vanderbilt game and they say, well, our quarterback's not Diego Pavia, but he can run like Diego Pavia. We can do similar things on offense that they did and run the ball against him that way. And they believe more in their defensive line than what they saw out of the Vanderbilt defensive line, who also got pressure on Nutmeyer. And for that reason and that reason alone, I will take A and M.

[Jeremy Klump]

Is weeks still out?

[Josh Pate]

Yes, I believe so. Yeah. Remember, I've made it a point to low key. Keep mentioning how Brian Kelly has not endeared himself to Louisianans. He has such little equity built up for a guy who's five and two.

[Jeremy Klump]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

For a guy who you know is mathematically still alive for all their preseason goals. They don't like him. LSU fans don't like him. So as long as someone you don't like is winning, you're willing to hold your nose and that's okay. Man, football is great. I don't have to be best friends with this guy. I could play with him. He could coach for me. But the second it goes sideways or in LSU fans cases, the second they feel like this season's a lost cause, they will turn so quickly because they think they deserve better. They happen to be right. They do deserve better. Everyone who is coached there this millennium has won a national championship, including a guy who ran it up the middle every other play and ate grass on third down and a guy who needed subtitles for you to understand what he was saying. They won national championships. So if you're not going to get it done for us, why are you our head coach? Oh, and by the way, we don't even like you. You're not a lovable loser or he's not a loser. But we don't even like you. You don't like us. Do you like yourself? We don't know. That's how it turns.

[Will Compton]

If they lose Saturday, is the same guy that hired Brian Kelly. Is he still there?

[Josh Pate]

He sure is. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And I don't know if you have any type of relationship with this guy, but you have to look back. And even at his first press conference, he was in the basketball Stage arena using his fake Southern accent. You had to know right then and there, like, this is not going to work out long term. Brian Kelly's personality has never seemed so wrong for LSU and the culture there.

[Josh Pate]

That would require great instinct. And I don't know that great instinct has always been exercised in the decisions that have been made down there. Hiring, finance. They've gotten themselves in some issues because of lack of instinct and judgment. Those who know will know.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

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[Jeremy Klump]

Ole Miss in Oklahoma that's a big one. Big Ole Miss eighth in the country. Oklahoma 13th in the country. Oklahoma is favored by four and a half at home over under on this game 54 and a half. Does Ole miss bounce back? Can Oklahoma keep this offense of Ole Miss at bay long enough to put up enough points and win this game? Can they control the line of scrimmage? Can they keep the Ole Miss offense off the field? Can they get home with this elite pass rushing unit against old Trinidad? Trinidad's better throwing against pressure than he is when he's not pressured.

[Will Compton]

That's true.

[Josh Pate]

Do either of you have a strong feeling on this game?

[Will Compton]

I feel confident about Ole Miss, but there's always maybe John Matiere's thumb is getting better. Yeah, maybe he becomes the guy that he was earlier in the season, the Heisman front running candidate. That gives me a little bit of fear. Oklahoma being able to find success on the ground last week, that gives me a touch of fear. The thing that I lean on is Lane Kiffin, his play calling versus a great Brett Venables defense. I think he gets 28 points out of that. And then seeing John Mateer knowing the injury he has, it's not an injury. That's like if you keep playing, the longer you play it'll kind of call us over and get better. This is not an injury that you can just play through and be like, oh, it's like he's not even injured anymore. This is a thing that if it's four weeks, you've got to take all four weeks. If it's six weeks, you got to take all six weeks. He chose to come back for the Red River Shootout and I think that was a mistake that was made a postgame press conference. He literally said, regardless of how I felt, I was going to play that game. So he's put himself in a very unique situation. His legs haven't been the thing that's got him out. Like, he hasn't been throwing the ball like John Mateer can throw the football, but he also hasn't been using his legs to extend plays and get a whole lot of yards. So I have to look at the drive chart for Ole Miss versus Georgia, and until those last three, which were the most important drives of the game, it was touchdown. Touchdown. Touchdown, touchdown.

[Jeremy Klump]

It was a fun game.

[Will Compton]

It was a fun game to watch. I think they have a. I think Lane Kippen has a bad taste in his mouth. I think he could be thinking about Florida, but I have to believe that he knows, like, we're still in this mathematically and like, for an SEC championship, we could. Everything we want to achieve is still right here. He can go get his name on street signs and Ole Miss and go to Florida the next year and do the same thing. And I think if he realizes what he has in front of him with the talent he has on this offense. And this Oklahoma run game was like a one game thing. I like Ole Miss.

[Josh Pate]

You want me to make you feel even better about that?

[Will Compton]

Please do.

[Josh Pate]

I had an SEC coach text me Monday, Ole Miss is about to expose Oklahoma's corners.

[Jeremy Klump]

That's a scary text to hear.

[Will Compton]

That's a scary text to hear. And it's also scary to hear because I know there's a but coming because I do. I will start boycotting after the show because we had a little therapy session on bus with the boys. But before I knew we were going to boycott Josh Page. So I did watch his prediction on this game. So where's the but?

[Josh Pate]

I think the SEC coach is wrong. Yeah, I don't think this SEC coach really has a clue what he's talking about. Dude only does it for a living.

[Jeremy Klump]

So what's supposed to make him feel better?

[Josh Pate]

Well, he. He already picked Ole Miss. Yeah, I wanted another bullet in the chamber for him, but he doesn't.

[Will Compton]

They're going to expose Oklahoma's corners. And I'm thinking back, I watched the prediction of this game on Josh Pate's show and it is not Oklahoma's corners getting exposed.

[Jeremy Klump]

You like Oklahoma?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I love Oklahoma.

[Jeremy Klump]

I like Oklahoma, too. I feel like when you look at FanDuel and you see, like, you see Oklahoma favored by four and a half, you've watched this Ole Miss Offense, it's kind of like. It seems like it's a no brainer to go Ole Miss here, but I do. It's like Oklahoma has to. Weirdly, Oklahoma has to have this game because they have the hardest remaining schedule in the season.

[Will Compton]

Yep.

[Jeremy Klump]

Ole Miss, even if you drop this game like it's a very favorable schedule, they'll probably, if they lose this game, they would end up what, 10 and 2. Yeah, I like Oklahoma here because I like the pass rush. They do blitz a lot. Hopefully they sit here and have, you know, they're sitting back and looking at everything and you can't allow this offense to get on top of you. You have to, you have to win this game a certain way. And it's through the running game, which again, they looked really good against South Carolina. Jon Mateer, his health getting, getting better. And I'm betting on Jon Mater getting back to the form of Josh Pate, preseason Heisman to where they were performing before he got injured. I like Oklahoma. I like Oklahoma here. I like them. I like the defense. I like the run game. They have to be. They have to win this game again a certain way to where they kind of bleed the clock, they control drives to keep that offense off the field. Because again, the Ole Miss offense can get on top of you faster than what we got here. Faster than a toupee in a hurricane. There we go. It can get on you that quickly, but I do, I like Oklahoma at home. I like them in a spot to where they have to have it. Oklahoma minus four and a half.

[Will Compton]

I like what you said. Can you break down how hard it would be to get a toupee to land on your head in a hurricane?

[Jeremy Klump]

No, a hurricane. Off your head in a hurricane.

[Will Compton]

Got you. Got you.

[Josh Pate]

Ah, that's like the opposite of slower than molasses in December. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

Maybe I worded that incorrectly, but, you know, get on you quicker than a two pay leaving your head in a hurricane.

[Will Compton]

Got you.

[Jeremy Klump]

We fixed. Found it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, found it. Landed the plane.

[Josh Pate]

A sentence that has not come out of any of our mouths so far this year is Oklahoma is going to win this game running the football, but I think Oklahoma is going to win this game running the football. They've sucked at it most of the year. They were okay doing it last week. A couple of things that come to mind here. Ole Miss, 99th run defense in the country. That defense was on the Field 80 plays last week, which in modern college football is a lot. It's the second leg of a back to back road stretch for them. I despise that Lane Kiffin's name has been out there as much as it has with Florida. Me knowing full well Lane Kiffin has paid attention to that and has not blocked the noise out. You'll also never convince me that didn't play a part in how Nebraska looked last Friday night. By the way, you'll never convince me that Tulane didn't struggle to the end against army if not for John Sumrall's name being out there. We've never seen hot seat talk and we've never seen coaching carousel talk to this degree in October. So it's a new thing. So we're seeing how it impacts teams first ride around the merry go round. Also, for everybody who's going to focus on Lane Kiffin versus Brent Venables, I actually think it's a Ben Arbuckle versus Pete Golding game. Those are the Oklahoma OC and Ole Miss DCs, respectively. And I think Ben Arbuckle is going to dial one up here. And I do think that unlike last week when Ole Miss went on the road and Chambliss, you know, everyone's touting his numbers against pressure. He hasn't faced an elite pressure team. Georgia is a terrible pressure team this year. And so it, it's crazy because you're thinking in your mind, oh, you got to go into Athens. That's going to be tough. Not this year it's not. Georgia's a good team, but that specific matchup is not tough. This is the number one pressure defense in the country. It is night and day different from what he faced last week. It's night and day different from what he's faced all year. And I really think they can crowbar Ole Miss offensively in a way that no one else they played this year could. And so I actually think that Oklahoma is going to tilt the game a little bit.

[Jeremy Klump]

I think they're going to for viewers that are busting tuning in Josh Pate, explain your crowbar theory.

[Josh Pate]

The crowbar theory is if you face a certain caliber defense and you're vulnerable to it offensively, what happens is they toss the crowbar and the bicycle spokes and the bicycle does not slow down. If you toss crowbar on the bicycle spokes, the bike just stops. You fly over the handlebars, your face is all skint up, but it doesn't slow down. That's the point is if you're averaging 35 points per game and you face an elite defense, you don't think to yourself, okay, we'll still score 25, 26. You could go from scoring 35 to oh, we've got nine on the board going into the fourth quarter. How did that happen? You got crowbar. That's how it happened. Now you could set up a short field defensively and you could score and that's great. You could score special teams, you could score defensively and that makes the scoreboard look different. But in terms of pure offensive production, it would stun me if Ole Miss just moved up and down the field this week or even close to that like they did against Georgia early in the game last week. So I don't think ou needs 40 to win this game. Consequently, I don't think they'll score 40, but I do think they'll run the ball a healthy amount. Do think they'll control tempo and I do think they'll control game script and they'll win the game and cover.

[Jeremy Klump]

So you don't see this Ole Miss offense as one of those offenses that's going to score no matter what?

[Josh Pate]

No, I do not.

[Will Compton]

Oklahoma.

[Jeremy Klump]

Oklahoma.

[Will Compton]

Oklahoma.

[Josh Pate]

Yes.

[Will Compton]

Ole Miss.

[Jeremy Klump]

Separation Saturday.

[Will Compton]

This is actually the separation Saturday.

[Jeremy Klump]

I think we're all watch a split the separation.

[Josh Pate]

I know I can't do another two and three. I just can't do it.

[Will Compton]

I know last time we went two and three before the show started, you go why were you two and three?

[Josh Pate]

Even the weeks where my picks go good, I'm having to sweat Saturday night and I'm having to see wait, all right, so let's say I went 12 and 4. Which games did we pick on locker room? Oh, it's three of the four I lost.

[Doug Limu]

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[Josh Pate]

Great feeling. Great feeling.

[Will Compton]

Do you think there's, there's something in picking just more games, just having more ammo. I wouldn't concentrate on like 3.

[Josh Pate]

Maybe I would petition to have a couple of weeks where we just go 15 deep. I don't even need to break it down. I don't need to even make a facial gesture. I would just love to rattle it off. I'd love to talk about the camera. I'd love to go Cal, Virginia Tech on a Friday night. I would love to. I would love to talk app state plus 14 and having old Dominion. I would love to do it.

[Will Compton]

If we stay this close in the standings and we get to the second week in November, I think those last two weeks we maybe do that just really separate us.

[Jeremy Klump]

Just pick 15 games.

[Will Compton]

Just pick every game.

[Jeremy Klump]

Bring back rapid fire.

[Will Compton]

Bring back rapid fire.

[Jeremy Klump]

At least for a week. Maybe the comments will tell Us to you get enough comments, get the rapid fire back. Pick 15 games. We'll pick 15 games.

[Will Compton]

The crowd is never wrong.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, the crowd is never wrong.

[Will Compton]

Game of the week.

[Jeremy Klump]

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[Will Compton]

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[Jeremy Klump]

We got Mizzou coming in Nashville, Tennessee, fall don't lie. Tor will be there. College game day will be there. Mizzou is 15 in the country. Vanderbilt is 10 in the country. Look, Cade McConnell, friend of the show. Friend of the show. Vanderbilt is favored this Saturday, minus two and a half. The over under on this game is 52 and a half. Gentlemen, this is a big game.

[Josh Pate]

Is Nashville the center of the college football world now?

[Jeremy Klump]

Yes.

[Josh Pate]

Yes. I think it's safe to say yes. Not even a close second?

[Jeremy Klump]

No. I'm sitting here trying to rattle through all the different spots.

[Will Compton]

If Venable wins this game, do they win out?

[Josh Pate]

Still tough to say. They got to go to Texas still. They've got. There's Auburn. Make of that what you will. They got Tennessee at the end of the year. My guess would be no. Mathematically, that's a tough three game stretch to run. But if they, if they win this one, the question is not will they win out. The question is can they afford to drop one more and still make the playoff? Taylor wants you to say no so.

[Jeremy Klump]

He doesn't have to take the entire offensive line.

[Will Compton]

No, I've actually come to terms with that. That's a great point, Mitch.

[Josh Pate]

I did like, have you started budgeting for that?

[Will Compton]

That's one of those. You call the financial advisor and be like, you're going to see a lot of things here. Just know, like, I gotta just know.

[Jeremy Klump]

This is my fault.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, this is my fault that this is happening right now. It's just one of those deals and I'm. I think I'm flipping the script a little bit. I don't know if I'm subconsciously doing it because I want them to lose and because I've been against them. They're winning. And now I'll flip it once I say I'm with them because I am taking Vanderbilt in this game. Something about magic, man. And something about a school that, you know, Nick Saban says there's no easy place to play in the SEC except for Vanderbilt. They've proven that wrong. Now. Something about Diego Pavia being in New Mexico, transferring with Clark Lee when he got the head coaching job, and just setting the world on fire not once, but twice. Doing it two years in a row. It's something that we're going to be able to look back on in 10 years and be like, dude, remember that run from Vanderbilt?

[Josh Pate]

We were there.

[Will Compton]

Because now Clark Lee, he's the head coach at Auburn. He's. They're doing whatever, you know, Diego Pavia, who knows what he's up to, but, like, what a cool story.

[Josh Pate]

It's a great game. Diego Pavia in 10 years. Fill in the blank.

[Will Compton]

That is the game. That is the game. And I just, I love the magic. I love the magic. I think if Missouri wins that game, kind of the college football purists get to sit back and go, okay, everything's kind of put back into the place it should be. We're going to assume they're going to lose one or maybe two more of these end games because they have a hard schedule and they're not going to make the playoffs and they're going to be in a bowl game and that'll be it. But something about this is beautiful. Something about them taking lsu being favored against lsu. Two brands, one that's way bigger than the other, and the lower, the one lower on the totem pole ends up beating them outright and then doing the.

[Josh Pate]

Same thing this week and own the game.

[Will Compton]

Own the game.

[Josh Pate]

Just owned it.

[Will Compton]

Like playing with their hair on fire. Getting a city that revolves mostly around country music to revolve around a school that is more known as a close to Ivy League school than anything else. I think that's beautiful. And regardless of how well Missouri runs the ball, Drinkowitz. And he's getting the noise from other college coaching jobs. I want, I want to continue to believe in magic. And for that reason, I'll be taking Vanderbilt.

[Josh Pate]

Good for you.

[Jeremy Klump]

Mizzou Moneyline.

[Will Compton]

Nice.

[Jeremy Klump]

Missoula Moneyline. Hardy's coming to town. It's a team that can run the football. Let's look at these trenches that they're, you know, that's, that's, that's facing off this weekend. Number one back Auburn game last week. That captain on defense. Just talking Shit in overtime and then going out there and getting a sack and a tackle for loss. Like this is going to be a dog fight. I like the dog fight on Mizzou side this game because if you look at who Vandy has played in the trenches when it comes to running defense, they're rushing or like the run defenses they're going against. And also teams that can run the football, they beat Georgia Southern, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Georgia State, Utah State, Alabama takes you through the air. And then also lsu. Mizzou can run the football. I think they win this game running the football. I like Mizzou in the trenches in this game. I do love the story of Vanderbilt. I like. I love that Cade McConnell's getting all the praise. We are Vandy fans here. But if I'm picking this game, I like Mizzou. I like him outright. I like him here in Nashville during the fall. Don't lie tour.

[Will Compton]

Now, hold on.

[Josh Pate]

Vandy's the number 12 run D in the country again.

[Jeremy Klump]

The rushing offenses that they've won against. We just talked about lsu. You look at Bama, that's Ty Simpson.

[Josh Pate]

Hold on, let's just rattle them up. Bama, number 104, rushing offense in the country. Who else? LSU number 117, rushing offense. Let's try South Carolina, number 121, rushing offense.

[Jeremy Klump]

If you look them up. Let's start. Let's Virginia Tech next.

[Josh Pate]

Actually, don't have that written down. I never planned on going this deep.

[Jeremy Klump]

Charleston Southern.

[Josh Pate]

I thought we were anecdotally making a point. We were going to move on. It was really going to flow.

[Jeremy Klump]

Georgia State, Utah State.

[Josh Pate]

I've got no clue what Georgia State.

[Jeremy Klump]

Ranks nationally in rushing out. Then look those up.

[Josh Pate]

That's interesting. So tell me which team I'm describing here. All right, run first team with a mobile quarterback high, third and fourth down conversion rate. Top five. Actually more opportunistic than elite defensively, but good pass rush, top 10 pressure rate without blitzing. Lost to Bama. There's chatter about the head coach maybe moving on after this year. Which team am I describing there? There's no wrong answer.

[Jeremy Klump]

Knowing we broke down. Bama, Mizzou. I know that Bama's really. Or I know that Mizzou is really good on third and fourth down conversion rate, pass rush. I don't know the whole elite defense, but they're very opportunistic. But I would guess we're talking about Mizzou here.

[Josh Pate]

We are, but we're also talking about Vanderbilt. I describe both teams. They look in the mirror, they see each other. So my very, very advanced analytical take on this is whoever plays with the lead in the game probably has the best chance to win. It would help if we could figure out who that's going to be. I agree with you. I watched your preview video. I agree with you. I think there may be, if there's a crack in this game, it's that Vandy's run defense, while statistically top 15, may not have been pressed on like they will. Hopefully Ahmad Hardy able to run the ball like he was the first five games in the season. I think that's just enough. There is no human being on the planet that is equipped to play the disrespect, no one believes in us thing, even though we're a two and a half point dog more than Eli Drinkwitz. And I think they're going to come in there and I flipped at the last minute last week and picked lsu. I'm not flipping this week. Somehow I think Missouri is going to come in there and get the win if I'm wrong. If you're right with Vandy, we enter a world in the last week of October where Vandy can afford to lose another game and still make the playoff. That's how big the stakes are here.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

Which would honestly be a fun world for fun Nashville. In Vanderbilt, Cade McConnell, he, he swung by the shop to pick up some merch the other day and I was just letting him know he's walking out to his vehicle, to his truck. I'm just say, hey, buddy, Mizzou's coming to town. He's like, oh, you know, I'm like, no, no, Mizzou is coming to town. Little did he know that I was like, hey, this is Missouri money line all day.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, well, would you wait till the door closed before you said it?

[Jeremy Klump]

I didn't say. I didn't even say that. I'm just letting him know so he can stay focused and not hear all this rat poison because we're fluffing him up. Right now. Everybody in the world's fluffing up Cade McConnell's clip.

[Josh Pate]

Cole Cube.

[Jeremy Klump]

Just more just letting him know, hey, Mizzou's coming to keep him focused. But as he's getting in the truck, I'm like, he doesn't know.

[Will Compton]

Cade's got the right mindset. He knows that clip is going extremely viral. I was at somebody's house last night for a game night that my wife tricked me into. Love game nights. Don't like them when they go to 1am don't like that at all. Especially when I have to drive 15 minutes after that. But while we're sitting there playing a game on the back, there's the local news going on and showing Katie McConnell's clip, Cade McConnell's clip, and it's showing about how viral it's gone. This one play by this Vanderbilt offensive lineman.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, wow.

[Will Compton]

And then it shows him, and he's doing an interview on it. And when he's hit and sitting at the office and he's saying, I can't let that get in my head, he's looking me like dead in the eyes. The fire being like. We knew he'd be seven and, oh, six and one going into this game. We knew this was the game that was going to define our season. I have to believe now. I have to sit there and they've showed me enough. They've showed me enough. At this point to where the story's fun, it's exciting. Diego Pavia has no business doing what he's doing. I mean that with so much respect. There's no business. Diego Pavia with his wrestler brain to will an SEC team into a contender conversation. Yet here we are. And I officially have to be here for it. And understand that my wallet might hurt because of it.

[Jeremy Klump]

Love it.

[Will Compton]

All right.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. I was gonna say go, Vandy, but I got M I Z.

[Josh Pate]

Go to Vandy.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah, go to. Go to the game.

[Will Compton]

Are you.

[Josh Pate]

You know I'm there.

[Jeremy Klump]

Fall. Don't lie to her.

[Will Compton]

Double header.

[Josh Pate]

Lots of books to 230 game. I'm here. I'm parked.

[Will Compton]

Maybe a Friday game.

[Josh Pate]

It's bold. I got softball championships this Friday night.

[Will Compton]

Which, by the way, how's that going? Because every clip you put is obviously always highlights, but talk to me about the full game.

[Josh Pate]

Well, we're in the playoffs, which every team makes.

[Jeremy Klump]

Where you at in the lineup?

[Josh Pate]

Hitting in the three hole.

[Jeremy Klump]

All right, Big dog.

[Josh Pate]

Every bit as much pressure Friday as there will be Saturday here in Nashville.

[Will Compton]

High school baseball player. We talk about Diego Pavia like he shouldn't be in this position. Maybe they should dismiss.

[Doug (ally of Limu)]

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[Josh Pate]

No, no.

[Will Compton]

He was a baseball guy.

[Josh Pate]

I am Kaden mc. I knew it was gonna come down to this. Yeah, I knew this Friday night in mid October was where I was gonna create my legacy one way or another. And I got a strained neck right now, so, you know, still got 72 hours.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you got two nights ago. I said, I got this kink back here. And I'm thinking, so nervous. It's just.

[Jeremy Klump]

Hell, Josh, you want to play flag football on Wednesdays.

[Josh Pate]

Let me. Let me talk after we get through this season. I'm not going. Deion. I'm not going two sports at once on you, okay? I can't do that. I gotta throw. I just thought I throw it out. They're throwing 18 mile an hour fastballs at me right now on Friday night. I gotta focus. I gotta lock in on softball.

[Jeremy Klump]

Mitch, he's in a fly football league all year round.

[Josh Pate]

I saw it. Doesn't look like you need a lot of help. Looks like you guys have got it pretty well locked down.

[Jeremy Klump]

I mean we're. We got a solid squad.

[Josh Pate]

Good. Solid squad. We haven't accomplished anything.

[Jeremy Klump]

Haven't.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. Haven't won.

[Jeremy Klump]

Undefeated. Haven't. Haven't won anything yet though. Have won anything yet.

[Josh Pate]

Me neither. Neither have I.

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[Jeremy Klump]

Look out for the boosting with the boys profit boost token. Back to the episode Dogs of The week.

[Josh Pate]

Let's do it.

[Jeremy Klump]

I'm riding the same train. I went Michigan State last week against Indiana. Michigan State covered. I'm going UCLA + 25 and a half.

[Will Compton]

I thought that was gonna be. I thought you were gonna go Michigan State to cover.

[Jeremy Klump]

Oh, oh, oh, no.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Indiana last week. I'm thinking, oh, my God. After the bus stop.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. That's about Nebraska, though.

[Will Compton]

That's about Nebraska.

[Jeremy Klump]

That's about Nebraska.

[Will Compton]

That's about support. It's about friendship more than anything. There's a core foundational piece in there.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. Look, Indiana. This is the Indiana game.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Klump]

UCLA. Yeah. The spread right now. UCLA is 3, 0.

[Will Compton]

Since this are two undefeated teams playing each other.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yes. Yes. And they got 25 and a half points. Indiana.

[Will Compton]

You know, you're still looking at that logo going, no, I agree with this pick.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. It's more just. It's so many points. Not like Indiana is just blowing everybody out. Like, they're playing really good. They're one of the best teams in the country. Signetti has got them boys rolling. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying 25 and a half points is a lot of points against a team that is 3, 0 in my brain and I think should be nationally. For everybody else, they're playing good football. 25 and a half points. This is. I'm not going to say it, but responsibly, this is as good as it gets.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Can we, since I have the commissioner of college football, can we play a little crystal ball game? Let's just say, hypothetically, UCLA beats Indiana outright. What kind of conversation is taking place with UCLA in the college football landscape? Is there a world where they've lost three games? Four games?

[Josh Pate]

They're three and three right now.

[Jeremy Klump]

They're three and three, but they've lost.

[Will Compton]

Let's say they win out.

[Josh Pate]

I'll tell you the conversation. Here's what the conversation would sound like. There would be a group over here saying, wow, you gotta hire Jerry Neuheisel as the permanent head coach. And then there would be a few people over here saying, you understand he's not the current head coach. Right. That's what it would sound like. And then they would say, could we introduce you to Tim Skipper, who has actually been the interim head coach this whole time? He's gotten a tenth of the camera time, but this is actually the interim head coach right now. The conversation would be that. And then it would be, should we hire James Franklin? Should we bring James Franklin all the way out here.

[Will Compton]

That would be the conversation.

[Josh Pate]

That's what the conversation would be.

[Will Compton]

Do you think in nine and three, UCLA team has a shot to make the playoff?

[Josh Pate]

No.

[Will Compton]

Beating Indiana.

[Josh Pate]

No, I don't.

[Jeremy Klump]

And Penn State, Let me see where they're at. Yeah, keep going. But I'm looking at the. Cause it's not a shot in the dark to say they could still be in the Big Ten championship.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

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[Josh Pate]

I'm trying to figure out who else they would.

[Will Compton]

Indiana. Indiana is undefeated.

[Jeremy Klump]

Ohio State, but they're not undefeated if UCLA wins.

[Will Compton]

True. So both those are two Indiana, one loss team.

[Josh Pate]

Ohio State plays ucla, I believe. Yeah, they do.

[Will Compton]

So Ohio State will be a two loss team.

[Josh Pate]

Tell you what, tell you what, If. If UCLA runs this and they've got wins over number one and number two. Yeah. If we think a 9 and 3 sec team could make it. Why not a team with that resume in the Big Ten? They play USC at the end of the year too.

[Jeremy Klump]

You're missing another one. They got the Huskers.

[Josh Pate]

They do.

[Jeremy Klump]

Oh, well, so it sounds nice, but yeah.

[Will Compton]

Oh, we're gonna end the conversation there.

[Jeremy Klump]

Ohio State, usc. You're missing one. This ain't happening for ucla.

[Will Compton]

Gotcha. Okay, my dog of the week. South Carolina Gamecocks plus eleven and a half. No one believes that Alabama is not going to cover this. That's a double negative. No one believes, except for Josh Pate. This is exactly when you take South Carolina. This is defensive touchdowns. This is best case scenario. South Carolina's offense is not on the field the entire game.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, we got to get the offense off the field so we got a shot to score.

[Will Compton]

55 minutes, Alabama time of possession. That's how South Carolina wins this game.

[Josh Pate]

Oh, man, I hate that. You're right. I just think it's a terrible spot for Alabama. This is my national champ. I have texted Kaitlyn DeBoer. I have texted Cain Womack, I have texted every coach I can. I've texted the sids. I talked about it on the show and sent the clips to them. This is the fifth game in a row where they've got to be up and they've been up for four of them. And now the thought is, all right, well, we celebrated, we smoked our cigars, we beat Tennessee. That pitch is electric. I was there Saturday night. Off the record, of course. And so now you're trying to get to the bye week. Now we got to get through South Carolina. Let's get out of there healthy. Meanwhile, it's the most wounded animal mode that you'll ever be in. It's the last gasp of Coctober. You can't go windlass in Cocktober. Has that ever happened? No, not in the history of the. Not in the history of the month.

[Jeremy Klump]

History of the month.

[Josh Pate]

I am. I'm very concerned that I'm sitting there looking at Bama notorious for not turning the ball over being minus three turnovers and it's a dog fight slash cockfight in the fourth quarter. I'm very concerned about this. They could also win 38 to 10. But I'm very concerned about the game.

[Will Compton]

That's what makes it more fun is you can see both things happening.

[Jeremy Klump]

What's the. What's the upset meter at here?

[Josh Pate]

The pucker meter is at six and a half as the game kicks off. Give me a six and a half. What time does it kick off? Yeah, it's not a night game. But it's not an early kick. It's going to be happening the same time that fall. Don't lie. Is at Missouri, Vanderbilt. So it's going to be one of those classic hope for good WI fi at Vandy. So we can keep tabs on both games at once.

[Jeremy Klump]

Vandy has decent wi fi.

[Josh Pate]

They do actually. Shockingly good WI fi.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah. Shockingly good WI fi. You can get around in that. In that state. Which is nice. Which is nice. Hov knows headed home.

[Will Compton]

Did you do your job?

[Josh Pate]

Give me Cal. Really? On principle. Virginia Tech has no business laying points against anyone.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Josh Pate]

This is a Friday night game. Weird stuff's been happening on Friday night for a long time now this season. And so I'm going to take Cal plus four and a half decent shot. They win the game outright.

[Jeremy Klump]

Where's the game at?

[Josh Pate]

It's in Blacksburg.

[Jeremy Klump]

Oh, it's in. It's at Virginia Tech.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. But will try to process that is not.

[Jeremy Klump]

No. I'm sitting here thinking like, okay, I'm thinking like I can like that pick. I'm thinking I could like that pick if it's in Cal. But that kind of makes me nervous.

[Will Compton]

Cal played Minnesota earlier this year.

[Jeremy Klump]

Beat him.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. It's on the football field. That's all I do.

[Jeremy Klump]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

All over the yard.

[Jeremy Klump]

Oh I know, I know, I know. Minnesota had to travel out to Cal.

[Will Compton]

Fair enough. Also I know we're by the end of the show. However it is little brother. We week Michigan is playing Michigan state. Were they 14 and a half right now?

[Josh Pate]

I believe so.

[Will Compton]

This hat right here bwtb.com that's where you can get this Hat we are going to. I texted all the people. You texted from Alabama, all those titles. I texted them as well. I said, this is a game. You're up by 21. You score again and you go for two like that. That is this type of game. So I'm taking Michigan responsibly to cover 14 and a half.

[Jeremy Klump]

Surprised you didn't put them in the parlay.

[Will Compton]

I was going to put him in the parlay. You put Nebraska in the parlay. And I thought it would be unfair to the fans for both of our fandom to take over that parlay.

[Josh Pate]

That's true.

[Will Compton]

So I took mine away because I was with you yesterday during all those conversations and I thought, let me support, let me remove my fandom. Say it at the end of the show, move on. But I will be taking Michigan -14 and a half.

[Josh Pate]

That's the difference between an amateur and a professional.

[Will Compton]

Thank you.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And I will. This is a Bryce Underwood in the air game. Michigan State does not do well against the run. They know that. Michigan knows that. They will bring everybody down in that box. Bryce Underwood will have a. Oh, that. That's the player we want to see. This is everything gearing up to that last week in November.

[Jeremy Klump]

300 yard game.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Josh Pate]

300 passing.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Jeremy Klump]

His first one.

[Will Compton]

It would be the only way. I don't see that happening other than all the other ways would be they're they're done halfway through the third quarter.

[Josh Pate]

It hasn't happened all year. But there's only one way you don't see it happen.

[Will Compton]

The only way I don't see it happening in this game is it's, you know, six minutes left in the third quarter. We're pulling guys. But it's a rivalry game. Crazy things can happen. Bryce Underwood, Donovan McCully, Samaj Morgan, Andrew Marshall. We're getting our tight ends back. Let's have a day, boys.

[Jeremy Klump]

Let's have a day. You guys all have a day. Thank you for tuning in. Big hug signing cases. We will see you next week. Let's win them all this weekend. Separation Saturday.

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