Josh Pate Takes USC Over Notre Dame + Picks Alabama Over Tennessee With Will Compton & Taylor Lewan

Summary

Bussin' With The Boys

Episode: Josh Pate Takes USC Over Notre Dame + Picks Alabama Over Tennessee With Will Compton & Taylor Lewan
Date: October 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

This week, Will Compton and Taylor Lewan are joined by college football analyst Josh Pate for Week 7 “Separation Saturday," diving into marquee college football matchups and hot seat storylines. The Boys go through their own pick records, debate coaching rumors, break down major games including Utah vs. BYU (the “Holy War”), USC at Notre Dame, Ole Miss at Georgia, and a True Classic Game of the Week: Tennessee at Alabama. Expect locker room banter, betting angles, and in-depth tactical insights—plus unique analogies and standout jokes that keep things light.

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Key Discussion Points & Game Breakdowns

1. Weekly Picks Recap & The State of the Boys’ Records

[00:00–06:56]

• Records Update:

  • Taylor Lewan: 0-5 last week (“Put a pumpkin in the chat!”)
  • Josh Pate: 2-3
  • Will Compton: 4-1 (“Bald Willie C keeps the hair, for now.”)
  • All three hosts now sit at 18-19 on the season.

• Attitude Check:

  • Lewan jokes about the difficulty in being this ice-cold (“It's just as hard to go 0-5 as it is to go 5-0.”).
  • Pate offers perspective: “People think 3-2 is bad. If you do 60% for your life, you own this building and several others.” (06:00)

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2. Coaching Carousel & Hot Seats

[07:07–13:16]

• Josh Pate’s Insider Angles:

  • Predicts several high-profile job openings (mentions Auburn, Florida, Penn State).
  • “If you’re sitting there and you're the head coach at Penn State… You know that there’s going to be more demand, which means the market, and your price, is going to get driven up.” (08:01)
  • Cautions: “Some people like this more than the games themselves. Those are sick people. But there are people like that out there, the hot seat crowd.” (08:32)

• Potential Domino Effect:

  • Hypothetical: if Washington upsets Michigan, coaching rumors around Michigan get loud overnight.

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3. Utah at BYU (“The Holy War”) Betting Breakdown

[14:14–19:03]

• Game Context & Banter:

  • Line: Utah favored by 3.5.
  • Lewan owns his biases: “I saw American Primeval, left a bad taste about a certain group. So when I’m watching BYU film, I might not be seeing it with clear vision…” (14:20)

• Matchup Discussion:

  • Utah praised for their decisive win over West Virginia (“smacked him 48-14”) compared to BYU (“dog fight with Arizona, OT”).
  • Josh Pate: “This is the Holy War. BYU undefeated… and Utah still favored. I thought you were what your record says you are in college football…” (16:15)

• Picks:

  • All three ultimately side with Utah.
    • Josh Pate: “Utah minus three and a half.” (18:11)

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4. USC at Notre Dame (“Statement Game or Not?”)

[22:07–29:52]

• Line: Notre Dame favored by 9.5, O/U 61.5.

• USC’s Statement:

  • Pate: “It’s a welcome change. We outrushed Michigan. We were the most physical team on the field against Michigan… Where you make statements is on the road as a 9.5 point dog against a team that believes they can lean on you.” (23:00)

• Key Tactical Questions:

  • “Is Notre Dame’s defensive resurgence real?”
  • “Can their man-heavy defense keep pace with USC’s Lemon and Lane?”
  • “If USC has edge there, downstream they have edge all night long.” (24:10)

• Consensus:

  • All three ultimately back USC plus the points.
  • Josh Pate: “I’ll say it softly. I’ll believe in Lincoln Riley and I’ll take the points with USC.” (24:58)
  • Lewan: “If you’re going to run man versus those guys the whole time… I also agree with you.” (25:15)
  • Compton: “With nine and a half points, I’m taking USC ten times out of ten here.” (27:02)

• Betting Caution:

  • Pate: “Historically, this is a trap spot… but I actually think we've passed a curve in betting logic. I don’t think this is a Notre Dame run away and hide type moment.” (29:16)

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5. LSU at Vanderbilt: Trap Game for the Tigers?

[29:59–37:17]

• Line: Vanderbilt -2.5 favorites (!!)

• Hosts Reactions:

  • The panel is shocked Vandy is favored, but support the reasoning: coming off a bye, LSU’s offense is stagnant, defense “good, not great.”
  • Compton: “I’ve been calling LSU fraud since the Florida game…” (31:11)
  • Pate: “LSU hasn't had a single game above 4 yards per carry till last week… got to see it one more week.” (34:00)
  • Vanderbilt’s Strength: No. 1 in the country in yards per rush; expected to expose LSU’s defensive “eye discipline” issues.

• Picks:

  • All three pick Vanderbilt.
  • Pate: “Even if LSU does some things right, they’re just flat out playing a good team this week... I’m going to take Vandy and lay the points.” (34:27)

• Coaching Fallout Angle:

  • Pate: “If they lose to Vanderbilt Saturday, I don't care how good Vanderbilt is… That noise is really, really loud.” (36:05)

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6. Ole Miss at Georgia: Can Kiffin’s “Death Star” Strike?

[40:44–47:52]

• Line: Georgia -7.5, O/U 53.5.

• Georgia’s First Half Problems:

  • Pate: “This is the most important first half in college football this Saturday… Ole Miss number six in first half passing; Georgia’s 85th in first half pass yards allowed.” (43:11/43:17)

• Tactical Breakdown:

  • If Ole Miss gets out fast, the panel thinks Georgia’s comeback ability is muted against a team with explosive offense and solid pass defense.
  • Pate: “If the line is above 7, I’m taking Ole Miss plus the points. First half tells you everything.” (44:55)

• Analogy Time:

  • Will Compton delivers the “Lane Kiffin as Anakin Skywalker” analogy:

    “Once upon a time, in a faraway galaxy, Lane Kiffin or Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one... This is where Darth Kiffin is born… It’s about showing the world you don't have to be a clone of Nick Saban to conquer college football.” (51:09–52:11)

• Picks:

  • Lewan & Pate: Ole Miss +7.5
  • Compton sides with Georgia for variety: “Since you guys took Ole Miss, I’m just going to go Georgia.” (47:52)

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7. Tennessee at Alabama ("True Classic Game of the Week")

[57:26–68:05]

• Line: Bama -7.5, O/U 58.5

• Live Audience Fan Segment:

  • Tennessee and Alabama fans in-studio bring keys to victory.
    • Tennessee: “If Joey Aguilar goes down into Tuscaloosa and wins, we’re building a goddamn statue in Knoxville.” (58:04)

• Panel Breaks Down Matchup:

  • Tennessee’s secondary is “terrible,” but their pass rush is elite.
  • Ty Simpson (Alabama) excels vs. pressure and broken plays—Bama’s skill players highlighted.
  • Pate: “Bama’s passing game vs. Tennessee’s secondary: number 15 pass offense vs. number 123 pass defense. I think there are moments where you think Tennessee's got a shot… then Bama wins by double digits in the end.” (67:24)

• Picks:

  • Unanimous for Alabama -7.5.
  • Compton: “I think Alabama is a national title competitive type team… I just don't think Tennessee has enough in the second half.” (64:56)

• If Line Moved:

  • “If this line was at 9.5, would you lean Tennessee?”
  • Pate: “I’d need 10.5 or more to go Tennessee. Got it right at 10—that’s the model.” (70:39)

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8. Other Notable Segments

• Dog of the Week:

  • Will: Michigan State +27.5 (vs. Indiana)
  • Josh: Syracuse +10.5 (vs. Pitt)
  • Taylor: Georgia Tech +1.5 (vs. Duke) (76:04)

• Chaos Parlay (Bussin’ with the Boys Parlay):

  • South Carolina +5.5
  • Mizzou -1.5 (at Auburn)
  • Mississippi State +8.5 (at Florida)
  • “This is a chaos parlay… That totals out to +614. Big hugs, tiny kisses, again make sure you are subscribed. Have a hell of a weekend.” (78:28)

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Notable Quotes & Banter

• Lewan on his ice-cold picks:

  • “Put a pumpkin in the chat. That one sucks.” (00:26)

• Josh Pate on hot seat rumors:

  • “Some people like [coaching rumors] more than the games themselves. Those are sick people. But there are people like that, the hot seat crowd.” (08:32)

• Will Compton on perspective:

  • “It’s just as hard to go 0-5 as it is to go 5-0. So the people that faded you, they’re celebrating!” (06:22)

• Pate on betting logic:

  • “If you do 60% for your life, you own this building and several others.” (06:00)

• USC/Notre Dame matchups:

  • “I believe just enough about the year two improvement they've made defensively that I don't think it's a runaway game for Notre Dame.” (24:50, Josh)

• Lane Kiffin/Anakin Skywalker analogy:

  • “It’s about showing the world you don’t have to be a clone of Nick Saban to conquer college football.” (52:11, Will)

• Pate with a movie analogy:

  • “Imagine the ending of Jaws if instead of shooting that shark and blowing him up, he just misses the tank of gas and the shark just devours him. That’s Lane sinking into the ocean with the rifle in his hand, and Kirby’s just chewing on the gas tank…” (53:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00 – Opening Banter / Records Update
• 07:07 – Coaching Carousel & Hot Seats
• 14:14 – Utah at BYU (Holy War) Betting Breakdown
• 22:07 – USC at Notre Dame: Statement Game?
• 29:59 – LSU at Vanderbilt: Trap Game?
• 40:44 – Ole Miss at Georgia: "Death Star" vs. "Mace Windu"
• 47:52 – Will’s “Anakin Skywalker” Kiffin Analogy
• 57:26 – Tennessee at Alabama (True Classic Game of the Week)
• 76:04 – Dogs of the Week
• 78:28 – “Chaos Parlay” Picks

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Show Tone and Style

• Authentic Locker Room Energy: Lot of friendly roasting, natural crosstalk, and “Big hugs, tiny kisses” signoffs.
• Inside Football Insight: Serious breakdowns from Josh Pate and the Boys for betting, game strategy, and behind-the-scenes context.
• Pop Culture & Inside Jokes: Movie and Star Wars analogies, spontaneous jokes about game stakes and fandom.

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Summary For New Listeners

This episode delivers smart, in-depth gambling and football insight alongside irreverent, relatable locker-room humor. The Boys' unique chemistry with Josh Pate brings out thoughtful tactical breakdowns and playful analogies (Lane Kiffin as Anakin Skywalker, Jaws ending for Georgia-Ole Miss). The panel agrees on trouble for LSU, sees value with Utah and USC, and expects Bama to cover, while making space for underdog picks and the rare “chaos parlay.” If you want to be in the know on coaching carousel rumors, bet angles, and what makes or breaks a Top 10 matchup, this is your bus stop.

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Transcript

[Terra Lawan]

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to week seven of the college football locker room. It is myself, Terra Lawan, Will Compton, the commissioner himself, Josh Pay. We'll get to the records in a second. Today we're talking a couple of games. You're talking about BYU, Utah, Big 12 matchup, LSU at Vandy, USC at Notre Dame. You'll miss at Georgia. And our true classic game of the week will be Tennessee at Alabama. Now, every week we go through the records. What's happened? Let's pull the band aid off real quick.

[Will Compton]

Boom.

[Terra Lawan]

I went 05. Let that sink in for a second. Put a pumpkin in the chat. That one sucks. Josh Pate 2 and 3. I know he's not proud of that. And then Bald Willie C goes 4 and 1. Does he keep the hair? Does he not keep the hair, though? All those answers will be given to you on the show. Leaving our record, everyone is at 18 and 19 this week. We'll see who the new front runner is. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's have a hell of a show.

[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pay]

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[Terra Lawan]

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[Josh Pay]

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[Terra Lawan]

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[Terra Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Terra Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

Every week, FanDuel gives everybody a profit boost token to use on any college football Saturday bet. And every week someone puts together a bet that's just a little bit better than everybody else's. Let's check out the one from the parlay. Winner card. Do you have the card? Do you want me to read the card?

[Terra Lawan]

Do you have. You don't have the card?

[Will Compton]

I have the card and it says/194,302 odds $6 $6 to win at 11,664 with picks Toledo at Bowling Green, Houston at Oklahoma. They took the over on Toledo, Bowling Green, the over on Houston, Oklahoma State and they took the under in nine different games. Miami at Akron, UCLA at Michigan State, Stanford, smu, Louisiana, jmu, Alabama, Missouri, Washington State, Ole Miss, ucf, Cincinnati, Charlotte, Army, Ohio State, Illinois. That's crazy.

[Terra Lawan]

It's nuts. Every time, every week we get one of these cars and FanDuel's like, look what this person did. And I'm thinking at what point can we be that person?

[Josh Pay]

6 to win 11,000 plus. I see several of these games like Bama, Missouri, total was 51 and a half. It hit 51, right? So you're winning 11K plus by half a point. I don't even know how the rest of these panned out. I know I was at that game and it almost landed perfectly on side and total.

[Will Compton]

And this gentleman's watching. Mizzou had the ball Yep. Trying to go get some points on the board. Sweating it out.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Good for him. Good for you, bro.

[Terra Lawan]

Good for you.

[Will Compton]

Shout out.

[Terra Lawan]

FanDuel did you talked about Missouri, Alabama. How was the game? How many chow?

[Josh Pay]

I gave it three chow, I think three chow games.

[Terra Lawan]

Michigan, Nebraska.

[Josh Pay]

Exactly. Very close game, very competitive, good environment. 11:00am kickoff, which means you're back home by the time the six o' clock games kick off.

[Will Compton]

That's nice.

[Josh Pay]

That was a good Saturday.

[Terra Lawan]

Every college football kid, when they finish the games early, they're like, can't wait to get home and watch the 6pm kickoff. There's nothing else to do.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Go out with the boys or nothing.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

No.

[Will Compton]

How are we feeling, gentlemen?

[Josh Pay]

Well below.500. That's how I feel. I don't know how you two feel, but I feel 18 and 19.

[Will Compton]

I see, you know, four to one last week, three and two, week before. Three and two week before. Just three winning weeks in a row. Everybody's starting to call this Separation Saturday.

[Josh Pay]

People think 3 and 2 is bad. 3 and 2, 60%. You go 60% over the course of your life. You own this building and that building and several other buildings and companies named after you. And Matt Rule's not going anywhere because no one can afford the buyout except for you. Yeah, that's crazy. You're stacking weeks.

[Terra Lawan]

That's what you want. 05 is just. No, I knew this cliff was coming. I think I said it a couple weeks before. I was like, there's no way I can keep going. Things are going to keep going this well. I talked about it. I never truly prepared for it. So this week has been a. It's been a gauntlet of a mental week for me, just trying to figure out where I stand, who I want to be. At the end of the day, it's like you just got to keep trusting yourself.

[Will Compton]

But shout out to people who faded you. It's hard. It's. Look, it's harder to go05 just as hard as it is to go5 and.

[Terra Lawan]

Oh, yeah.

[Will Compton]

So the people that faded you, they're celebrating. They can't wait to see what you're going to pick this week.

[Terra Lawan]

The problem for those people is I've been above 500 so much. A lot of people are probably like, I probably should follow this guy. So if anything, I hurt some people out there this week. It'd be. I would not suggest fading me this week. I would not suggest that. This seems like a strong week.

[Will Compton]

Generational talent, it's right up here.

[Terra Lawan]

And you can get [e-mail] generational picker. That's what it should say.

[Will Compton]

Generational picker. There you go.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Josh, is there anything going on in the college world that we should know about going into this show, Penn State, that you've learned in between your show last night to this morning?

[Josh Pay]

So, yes, I think a lot of jobs are going to open up. We've been hinting at that, some would say fairly strongly over the past couple of weeks. That is, there's a game in Auburn, Alabama this weekend. I think you're going to talk about Missouri a little bit later to some degree. If Missouri goes down there to Auburn and wins, all that noise that was around Penn State could be around Auburn. I really frankly don't care what Florida does against Mississippi State, although I do lean bulldogs. Plus the points, which we'll also talk about later. There's going to be noise around Florida no matter what. I think some people have dug in the past and realized Jimbo Fisher's last game at A and M was a win against Mississippi State and he still got fired because they weren't waiting to see what Jimbo did against msu. They were waiting for the bye week that followed msu, just like Florida's got a buy after they play Mississippi State. So you got some noise in Penn State right now. I think you're imminently going to have some noise in the sec, which means if you're sitting there and you're the head coach at PED State, which you would never leave, but if theoretically you wanted to leave and you knew Penn State wanted you, but you also knew maybe the Auburn job comes open, maybe the Florida job comes open, maybe some jobs we're not even talking about right now, but that are also pretty big are going to come open. You're in no hurry because you know that there's going to be more demand, which means the market and your price is going to get driven up and maybe you don't leave, but maybe, best case scenario, you make me pay you a ton more money to stay. Maybe I fill your nil coffers a little bit more. Maybe I give you a bigger support staff and salary pool. All of these things are in play right now. It bores some people. Some people like this stuff more than the games themselves. Those are, those are sick people. But there are people like that out there, the hot seat crowd.

[Will Compton]

Are there games that people aren't necessarily thinking about at the moment that could be taking place this weekend that could start a domino effect for potential chaos like, if you sit back, you not talking to anybody else, but you sit back, you're watching the entire college football landscape play out. You're like, oh, what if this team loses this weekend? I wonder if noise will get loud around this program.

[Josh Pay]

Well, we don't like bringing up irresponsible talking points on this show. We don't them once they're already out there.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Josh Pay]

So I think you.

[Will Compton]

Let's pretend late night. It's 11:30 at night. We just got done playing video games. Taylor's parents are yelling at us to go to bed, and we're kind of just sitting around talking about whispering bags. No one can hear us. No one's listening to us. And you. And you just drop a question of, hey, what if this happens? And we're like, no way.

[Josh Pay]

If Washington. Shut up. Goes into Ann Arbor and beats Michigan, it's going to not be good. And I think it's ironic that there's been one chair on this set that has given constant noise to another chair on this set about losing that chair's head coach that all of a sudden could have to deal with rumors and innuendo and outright reports about their own head coach if they fall to Washington. Model loves Michigan. Model doesn't think it's going to happen. But you know what? The model kind of sort of thought Penn State would take care of Northwestern last week, and they didn't. So once Lincoln Riley has run all over you, are you really confident about any. Are you really confident about anything? That's the question. All right, we can lean back. Mike's back on. We're back on the road.

[Terra Lawan]

This would be the point of the sleepover when I'm in my sleeping bag and I think to myself, I know I should have never invited him.

[Josh Pay]

You should never.

[Terra Lawan]

You should never conjoin. Friend groups.

[Josh Pay]

Zip it. Zip it all the way up to the mouth.

[Terra Lawan]

Hey, good talk. Maybe my dad was right. We should go to sleep.

[Josh Pay]

But it's not going to happen, right?

[Will Compton]

And I'm in my sleeping bag, putting the sleep mask on, taping my mouth.

[Josh Pay]

Cozy, and there's no way.

[Terra Lawan]

God damn it, it's happening.

[Josh Pay]

There's no way.

[Terra Lawan]

Look at timing.

[Josh Pay]

Look at that.

[Terra Lawan]

Washington six and a half.

[Josh Pay]

Washington plus five, ticket in his hand right now. He knows something. Someone knows something.

[Terra Lawan]

I'll say my comment when he's done laughing.

[Will Compton]

Give him a second.

[Terra Lawan]

Here's the thing that you said that worries me is foundationally, what is Michigan? It's a hard nose, tough football, tough running football team who get to Play great defense and make you quit. And after last weekend, I'm a human being just like everybody else. You see that happen, you're like, well, can that happen again? Can this? Am I. Is Washington capable of doing that at home? They got a hell of a wide receiver. They got a hell of a quarterback, great running back. I mean, they were in the game with Ohio State. Had multiple trips to the red zone, only came away six points. Like, those are the things that make me nervous now.

[Will Compton]

Things that should make you feel good, though, Washington, they haven't been the best at getting off to a fast start.

[Terra Lawan]

That's true. That is true. The last two weeks, Wisconsin goes down, drives and scores. USC goes down and drives and scores on their first drives. And then we tighten.

[Will Compton]

But look, Washington doesn't has the going down.

[Terra Lawan]

Listen, and I can't believe I'm arguing for my team. I'm just telling you, if we're sitting here and we're technically still in the sleepover, nobody's watching the show. Yeah, I'm a little concerned. I'm a little nervous because two years ago, my chest is bigger than ever, talking about a national championship. Now we're talking about losing a Washington at home.

[Josh Pay]

Off the record.

[Terra Lawan]

Off the record.

[Will Compton]

Off the record. And the other potential head coach, hot seat.

[Terra Lawan]

And it's like, if you lose this game, if there's another individual over here who we're not going to name, who's worried about losing their head coach, these are two totally different reasons. I'm worried about losing my boy because someone higher up than me goes, that's not good enough. As the other hand, my other boy, he's looking at his guy going, please don't leave because you are good enough. Both scary. Both different.

[Will Compton]

Both scary or is not leaving.

[Terra Lawan]

Oh, I wasn't talking about you.

[Will Compton]

Who were you talking about?

[Terra Lawan]

Well, a couple weeks ago you said, Billy Napier. He's a homie. If you had a beer with him, you'd love him more than anybody.

[Josh Pay]

He's talking about me and Billy.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, Billy.

[Will Compton]

Oh, you don't want him.

[Josh Pay]

He was talking about us floors.

[Will Compton]

Got you, got you, got you.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah. Did you think he was talking about.

[Will Compton]

Just to address.

[Terra Lawan]

Are you nervous about Nebraska?

[Will Compton]

I'm not nervous about Nebraska. Not nervous whatsoever.

[Terra Lawan]

Not at all.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Josh Pay]

Nebraska. I think even on the card, I think it's all.

[Will Compton]

I think again, I've said it. I think it's all very real. I just think Nebraska is going to. They'll wake up, they'll hear. They'll hear what the. What Our guy wants. Yeah, they'll hear what our guy wants. They'll hear him loud and clear.

[Terra Lawan]

Do you get nervous that Raiola goes, he's not going anywhere talking about your coach, but didn't say anything about him?

[Will Compton]

No, no, no. I don't listen.

[Josh Pay]

No, you don't. You're like. You're like Alex Goelish. You don't even. You don't have time to listen.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, listen.

[Josh Pay]

We're focused on the Gophers.

[Will Compton]

You talk about the hottest head coach right now being talked about across the board. Everybody. And you get Friday Night Lights on national television against the Minnesota Gophers, a team we haven't beat since 2016 at Minnesota. Come on. The noise is only going to get louder and that like it. Does it make everybody uncomfortable? Sure. Absolutely. But you have to get as uncomfortable as possible in this to know that Nebraska is going to get. Have the biggest W coming out of it.

[Terra Lawan]

At the end of the day, I don't worry about Will Compton when the pressure gets big. Because when you were at Nebraska 10 win, 11 win seasons, you were fueled in fire.

[Will Compton]

Didn't have any 11 win, but you.

[Terra Lawan]

Got 10, nine, 10 win seasons, Big Ten championship appearances. You were a guy that back against the wall. You swung.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Everybody else, the pressure, I can't say that for them.

[Will Compton]

That's all right. That's why, you know, that's why I'll stand at the forefront.

[Terra Lawan]

That's why you stand at the forefront.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I stand at the front.

[Terra Lawan]

Because they need you now more than ever.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

What you have met, have built.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Beautiful. Utah at BYU.

[Will Compton]

Let's get in some games. Separation Saturday.

[Terra Lawan]

Utah favored three and a half. Total points in that game is 48 and a half. I'll be honest, I saw American Primeval when it came out. It left a bad taste in my mouth about a certain group of people since then. So when I'm watching the BYU film and might not be, I might not seeing it with clear vision, whatever the opposite of rose colored glasses are. I see a quarterback that wears number 47. I see him in a little bit of a dog fight with Arizona, double overtime. And then I look at Utah, who a couple weeks ago we sat there with them versus Texas Tech and you're like one of these teams, you go, what if one of these teams blows the other one out and they just run away with everything? And essentially that did happen. People forget that the game was 10:3 early in the fourth quarter and then it became a blow with a backup quarterback. But I'm Sitting here and I'm just thinking about Utah. This guy's getting my ass. He knows I'm weak with this.015.

[Will Compton]

Just give us a second. Everybody at home, maybe just take a moment now to subscribe. If you're not subscribed.

[Josh Pay]

Do you change your pick right now? You know where you were going? Do you change your pick right now? You got to think this through. Do you believe in signs, or do you believe that things just randomly happen? Because you know Joaquin Phoenix in signs, he's a signs guy. Mel Gibson had his faith question tested a little bit, but you remember what happened to Mel in the end.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

What?

[Josh Pay]

I don't want to spoil the ending for you. I mean, you need to go watch the movie. I'm just saying, you know what?

[Will Compton]

Signs.

[Terra Lawan]

Signs. Yeah, I've seen signs. The crops.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, with the crops. Well, the aliens, too. Yeah, I thought that was mainly the aliens.

[Will Compton]

Keep the momentum. Got him. You got no. There you go.

[Josh Pay]

Got him?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he's there.

[Josh Pay]

His body's down here.

[Will Compton]

That's a good sign. Whoever you pick, I think is the.

[Terra Lawan]

I'm lean in Utah. I'm lean in Utah. But he laughs at me. Oh, and now you're thinking, maybe I should go byu.

[Josh Pay]

I need separation with you and you, frankly. So I want you to go Brigham Young.

[Terra Lawan]

Have you been to a game in Brigham Young?

[Josh Pay]

I've been to Utah. I've not been to byu. I flew over Provo to get to Salt Lake. That makes them sound like flyover country. It just so happens our approach brought us over Provo. So I saw the stadium from above, but I have not been able to go there. Also, there is probably there, definitely, as I can confirm, some random thick, mustached executive somewhere that wants this game not to be called the Holy War anymore. So we just need to publicly trash anybody that's trying to strip the name Holy War from this game before we go the way of the Red River Rivalry and whatever they call the game in Jacksonville between Georgia and Florida now. So this is the Holy War. You saw American Primeval. This is the Holy War. It's at byu. Byu, undefeated. Utah already with a loss and Utah still favored. I thought you were what your record says you were in college football. That's what the chat tells me every week. How could this be?

[Terra Lawan]

Common opponent? BYU beat West Virginia 38, 24. Utah smacked him 48, 14. Stop.

[Josh Pay]

You.

[Terra Lawan]

This has got Utah written all over it. Yeah, it does. Where you going? I'm not picking yet. Where are you going?

[Josh Pay]

I'm going Utah. Minus the points. I thought BYU was going to lose last week.

[Will Compton]

Josh, you want to pick that up?

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, let me pick this up.

[Terra Lawan]

Are you oman?

[Josh Pay]

Do you want me to keep this to myself?

[Will Compton]

You can. No, you can read it out loud.

[Josh Pay]

Everyone knows I don't watch these teams. But let me ask you something. Do you know what soaking is?

[Terra Lawan]

Oh, I know what soaking is.

[Josh Pay]

Utah minus three and a half.

[Will Compton]

There's your pick.

[Terra Lawan]

Before the show, I asked Will where he's going and he was like, I got something for it. I'm thinking you're not gonna tell me where you're going because you'll see on the show. I'm thinking this motherfucker just won't just tell me. He's gatekeeping his four in one record against me.

[Josh Pay]

Shared with you. Pull out your entire life. No full transparency, no secrets. All of a sudden we're in Week 8, 2025 season, it's Utah BYU. That's when the veil goes up. That's when you can't get anything out of it.

[Terra Lawan]

Anything at a will. But he's. I picture him 20 minutes before the show starts. You, before you get here, you're just tucking on the nose.

[Josh Pay]

Don't touch this. Don't touch this till the show.

[Terra Lawan]

Are we worried? We're not worried.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah. I'm laying the points.

[Terra Lawan]

I think BYU's also got a gauntlet coming up too. Right.

[Josh Pay]

It's going to be tougher than it has been. Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

They got Cincinnati, they got Texas.

[Terra Lawan]

They're not. No disrespect to the boys in Tucson. I grew up in Arizona.

[Will Compton]

But they're not very good.

[Terra Lawan]

They're not very good.

[Josh Pay]

Although they will cover against Houston this weekend. But yes, they're not all that great. Second year staff out there. Not all that great.

[Terra Lawan]

Not all that great. Tucson, not a lot of nil fun there. Michelob Ultra. They got this idea.

[Will Compton]

Play for an ultra superior bragging rights.

[Terra Lawan]

Superior bragging rights.

[Will Compton]

Let's just show them a little thing because it doesn't have to always be like these big long. Doesn't have to be video games stuff on the field. It could be as simple as a rock, paper, scissors. People have been watching us play rock, paper, scissors. My record right now is 4 and 2.

[Terra Lawan]

2 and 4.

[Will Compton]

Lots of pressure on you. Lot of pressure. Oh, that one was easy.

[Terra Lawan]

Super worth playing for.

[Will Compton]

That's what we're talking about. Michlob Ultra. Superior Light Beer.

[Terra Lawan]

I thought there was no way you were gonna do the same thing again.

[Will Compton]

I knew you were.

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[Terra Lawan]

Next game.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you guys, you, you.

[Josh Pay]

Utah.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Josh Pay]

Utah across the board.

[Will Compton]

Utah across the board. No separation this week between us. USC number 20, USC at Notre Dame. Notre Dame favored by nine and a half. That blows my mind. On the FanDuel sportsbook right now, nine and a half favorites. Notre Dame is the over under on this game is 61 and a half.

[Terra Lawan]

Do you have any notes?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

So I bring these in from the show that I do the night before.

[Terra Lawan]

Okay.

[Josh Pay]

These are not specifically.

[Will Compton]

I got notes, too.

[Terra Lawan]

I got notes, too.

[Josh Pay]

All right. Do you have a paper? There we go. Let's. Let's pop the paper on this. All right. Do we. Do we believe that last week was a statement?

[Terra Lawan]

No.

[Josh Pay]

Did USC make a statement or did they just look impressive?

[Will Compton]

I think USC didn't make a statement for themselves, but I think if you're a fan of USC and you've watched this team, I think that was a good statement. A good statement. Win for what people want to see out of the USC Trojans.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, I think it was. I think it was just really nice to see. It's a. It's a welcome change. We outrushed Michigan. We. We were the most physical team on the field against Michigan. These are things we haven't said about ourselves. True. All right. You were also favored in the game. It was in the Coliseum. That's not where you make statements. Where you make statements is on the road as. What's the line?

[Will Compton]

Nine and a half.

[Josh Pay]

As a nine and a half point dog against a team that is physically your superior and they just fully believe they'll be able to lean on you. Now, this is a game that profiles as one of those total is not high enough games. USC number two, passing offense, Notre Dame pass defense in the 1/ hundreds. But a lot of Notre Dame fans feel that's old news. We've rectified it now. We've given up like 27 points the last three games combined, which is less than we gave up against A and M in one game. Notre Dame, number 19, pass offense, USC pass defense in the 1/ hundreds. So you got to ask, firstly, is the Notre Dame defensive resurgence real? Number two, Leonard Moy. Leonard Morgan's Lemon is one of the best corner wide receiver matchups that you'll see all year. You'll see that one on Sundays for years to come. If USC has edge there, then downstream, I think they have edge and pass catching all night long. And I think you find out maybe some of that Notre Dame defensive resurgence was a mirage against bad teams. So that's the first thing to watch. But the second thing to watch is this is a we are Notre Dame game. To me, this is a USC is coming in. All the talk about passing and everything, we still got price, we still got love, we still got Notre Dame's ethos, like what we believe, who we are at our core that we should be able to use to lean. I believe just enough about USC last week and I believe just enough about the year two improvement they've made defensively that I don't think it's a runaway game for Notre Dame. So if you're giving me the points with usc, I will. I'll Say this softly. I'll believe in Lincoln Riley and I'll take the points with usc.

[Terra Lawan]

I don't disagree with anything you just said. And just also Notre Dame, they run man more than everybody in college football. And they had not only Lemon, but that. Who's the other kid as well, the one that was hurt that came back. What's it?

[Josh Pay]

Jacoby Lane.

[Terra Lawan]

Jacoby Lane. You're going to run, man against both those guys all day long with the way the quarterbacks throwing the ball, I just keep seeing too high, red zone, Lemon break out on a post route and just the quarterback putting a perfect ball to Lemon against Michigan. And it broke my heart. And if you're going to run man versus those guys the whole time, I also agree with you. The thing that gives me a little bit of pause is if we can. Is this aimed at me this week?

[Will Compton]

I need to turn him off. Make sure again, another opportunity to subscribe. If you're not subscribed to the channel.

[Terra Lawan]

I see I gotta stop moving around so much in my chair.

[Josh Pay]

I don't think you've done anything abnormal this week. I think it's a different energy this week.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's turn it off.

[Terra Lawan]

This is where you fight the demons. This is the conjuring. This is everything. Like are you gonna stand up or you're run away?

[Josh Pay]

You try to be festive. This is the price you put this guy.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, we gotta beat the of him this week. We're sitting here saying this is not a statement game, but the emotional post post game press conference from Lincoln Riley, the whole team celebrating, jumping the crowds, going crazy. Can they get up for an emotional win going multiple time zones. That's. I think that's the biggest question now with the points. I'm still going to take USC because that's a lot. And after what they did to Michigan, it's like, how do you not believe at least some of that? 60% of that. And if they can do 60% of that, they keep it within 10 points.

[Josh Pay]

Playoff on the line for Notre Dame.

[Terra Lawan]

Play off on the line for Notre Dame. Play off on the line for both teams.

[Josh Pay]

But usc, this is not a conference game for them. So they're still technically in the Big Ten race. If they lose Saturday, Notre Dame has no conference race to be in. They have no bailout. Let's make sure we go win the conference. So this is it for them. So they would know before Halloween. If they lose Saturday, we're not going to the playoff. That does something to a man.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, just to go go off of with you. With that defensive resurgence at Notre Dame, I feel like a lot of teams, when you're down, you're in more desperation mode where you're throwing the ball more. If you look at, if you look at the stats of Notre Dame, they've had three interceptions in the second half these last couple weeks, so they kind of run away with it. But going up to that, you look At Notre Dame versus Boise, it was only 147 going into halftime. NC State, it was only 107 going into halftime. Notre Dame's able to lean on them, get it going. Then obviously you're forcing throws. That's where a lot of the interception moments come in. I think the USC team's for real. I think they're a very good team. I think Notre Dame's a good team, but with nine and a half points, like I'm taking USC 10 times out of 10 here. I watched what happened at them versus Michigan. I called what was going to happen then versus Michigan. I saw what happened with them when they lost to Illinois. Like how good this offense is. They have so many weapons. They have a very good quarterback. As long as they can get after C.J. carr a little bit along the defensive front. I. The question mark is still, can they run the football as well as they did against Michigan, against Notre Dame? I like usc. I love usc. This is like, you know, I don't want to say favorite pick of the week because I feel like that'll be the absolute jinx.

[Terra Lawan]

My favorite pick of the week last week was Alabama over Missouri especially. If you're going to go usc, I need this.

[Will Compton]

I just, if you, if you've been watching usc, this is a, this is a good football team. They, they just dropped one. When they traveled again a couple time zones to Illinois, they're going to be in the same situation here with Notre Dame. This game is going to be awesome. But I like USC with the points.

[Josh Pay]

Did all three go USC plus the points?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Separation Saturdays really cook it up nicely right now.

[Will Compton]

Are you ready to flip?

[Josh Pay]

No, no, no. I'm just wanting to point out to the audience the way college football's worked historically is this is a trap spot and this is where someone wins 38 to 10. Historically. Okay. I had that factored in and took USC even knowing that, because what I think is if you believe that the sport has compacted, then you're going to have fewer runaway and hide type games. You're going to have fewer roster flex type games. And so I actually think this is a Spot where you're looking at it and you know, like Vegas wants you on one side and you're willingly going to that side. Historically that's a bad proposition. I actually think we've kind of passed a curve right now in betting logic to where maybe you're the first to the party at knowing the side they want you to be on conditionally may be the side to be on in some of these cases. I think this may be one of those cases. I don't think this is a Notre Dame run away and hide type moment.

[Will Compton]

And look, Jordan's only thrown what, two interceptions this year.

[Josh Pay]

And remember Myava threw two pick sixes in this game last year. That usc, the box score is crazy. I believe USC outgained Notre Dame and Notre Dame runs away with the game because of defensive scoring, which counts. And if you do it again this year, it'll count again this year.

[Will Compton]

But models can't predict that though.

[Josh Pay]

They can't. And it's totally randomized. So maybe you get, maybe get a different result on the road than USC was even able to get at home.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Love it boys. We're there, we're here.

[Terra Lawan]

LSU at Vanderbilt just down the road.

[Josh Pay]

Tour is going to be that way. Yeah. You're going to walk, I think because it's powered by quick trip. I'm going to drive out of solidarity with my partners. But. But I could walk.

[Terra Lawan]

Okay. Yeah, fair enough. And I looked at this line and it makes sense. Vanderbilt's favorite minus two and a half. The total points in that game is 48 and a half. It's just crazy to me. Even though Vanderbilt's been good for a couple years now, to see them playing against the lsu. Like you look at the brands and you're like holy shit. Vanderbilt is favored against the LSU Tigers.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

And it hasn't moved all week. In fact, it's gone the way of Vandy a little bit. I think it's even moved up a point.

[Terra Lawan]

Vandy coming off a buy. Bakeloss got embarrassed. Diego Pavia gets in an argument with a middle aged man coach behind him. They're just kids.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, they're just kids.

[Terra Lawan]

Bad luck.

[Josh Pay]

Pavia is your age but he's just a kid.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, exactly. He's What? How's he 25, 26.

[Josh Pay]

I gotta be.

[Terra Lawan]

He's damn near 30.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

He's been in college football for about seven, seven years.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

LSU's offense looks stagnant. The defenses look good, not great. I like Vanderbilt.

[Will Compton]

This is Vanderbilt minus two and a half.

[Terra Lawan]

I like Vanderbilt. I like Clark Lee McConnell.

[Will Compton]

I, I made, I made a very.

[Josh Pay]

It's probably one in there somewhere.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I'm in. A very offhanded comment, I believe it was about the Miami Hurricanes going into the first game, trying to create some theatrics, some, some Hollywood for the game saying that they were the dog, you know, sitting there at the gate barking, but once you walk up to the gate, they don't bite you. To me, I think that's lsu. I've been calling LSU fraud since the Florida game when I watched them have five turnovers and they only won by 10 points.

[Josh Pay]

You took that personal.

[Will Compton]

Took it personal? I did. I took it personal. And if you watch the, if you watch the LSU South Carolina game, I mean, it's 10, 10 deep into the third quarter. 10, 10 deep into the, into the third quarter. They get a quick slant that gets taken to the house, a massive explosive play. Then they're backed up. South Carolina's got them backed up and nuts. Meyer scrambles like he's Lamar Jackson. They pop an explosive run, and then Nutmeyer throws a pick in the red zone.

[Terra Lawan]

Nutmeyer.

[Will Compton]

Nutmeier throws a pick in the red zone. They, they, they had some better optimism offensively of getting in, you know, the opponent territory, but they don't find ways to get points. I still, I'm sticking to what my thought was about lsu. I think they are, I think they're frauds right now. And I think Vanderbilt is going to beat them this Saturday here in Nashville. And they've been sitting on what, the bye week? They've been kind of licking their wounds two weeks since the Alabama game. They still believe, you know, this team still believes they're SEC champions, that they're national title contenders. So I'm going to buy it. I'm going to believe it. Willie. See, listen, I'll be there. I'll be making an appearance at this Nashville bearded belt LSU game.

[Josh Pay]

Wait, you're going?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

Are you serious?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

Where are you going to be?

[Will Compton]

We got the fam will be there sideline, and then we'll be in one of the end zones.

[Josh Pay]

So you're going to the Fall Don't Lie Tour?

[Will Compton]

The. Yes. We'll be attending the Josh Bait Fall Don't Lie tour in support. And if you can slide me a little, little Freights tee, I'll throw a roo in it for you.

[Josh Pay]

You want a onesie? She's too old for a onesie.

[Will Compton]

She's too old. Are you just Onesies? Do you have a little T shirt?

[Terra Lawan]

No.

[Josh Pay]

We'll talk.

[Will Compton]

Okay?

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, I got a code. I got a promo code for you, okay?

[Terra Lawan]

Small. Throw it in the dryer.

[Josh Pay]

You know what else I respect about you? You've done this with Illinois football. You've done this with LSU football. You, when you get locked in on a prediction, no one's breaking you. And it does not matter if you take the last name of the quarterback and you physically throw it into a wood chipper and just say what comes out of the wood chipper. I got Altenheimer, I got Nutmeyer. And you don't even break a smile. You just go and you picked Vandy minus the points. And I think I'm going to roll with you. Here's where I would be wrong.

[Terra Lawan]

All three.

[Josh Pay]

Again, here's where I would be wrong. And I do want some credit for this. If LSU wins, maybe a quarter. Maybe a quarter win.

[Terra Lawan]

Okay.

[Josh Pay]

LSU actually ran the ball last week. They haven't done it all year. They hadn't had a single game where they were above four yards per carry. All of a sudden they popped five and a half yards per carry on South Carolina. And you talked about how the offensive performance still left a lot to be desired. True. The difference is there were a couple of turnovers that kept the game from being a pull away game. Now. No, not important enough. So if that was a mirage, we'll find out. Because Clark Lee's really good defensive staff. I believe in the whole stewing on a loss over two weeks sort of protocol. This is a Super bowl spot for Vanderbilt. But I just wonder, number one, we're going to have to ask all year about Garrett Nussmeier, AKA Nutmeier's health. I don't know if he can push the ball down the field. I don't know really if LSU can run the ball consistently to take the pressure off of Garrett Nussmeier. I think you're facing one of the best defensive staffs in the country at.

[Will Compton]

Making you prove that they're top 20 in run defense.

[Josh Pay]

You can't see through them. But a lot of people still believe because it's Vanderbilt. Oh, that's a cute story. And it's whatever. Like they'll keep taking advantage of that as long as people keep saying that I got to see LSU do that stuff one more week. Like I got to see him really flex offensively. And I just don't know. I just don't know that they have that capability. And also, even if they do, they're just flat out playing a good team this week. So There are some things that could go right for LSU and they still lose the game. So I think there are a lot of paths for Vanderbilt. I'm going to take Vandy and lay the points and so we're, we're arms locked on this.

[Will Compton]

I just, I think. And again another stat for Vanderbilt. They're number one in the country in yards per rush. They can run the football very well. I think the second level for lsu they have some deficiencies like with their eye discipline like you'll be seeing guys, they'll be in man to man. Why I'll sift back across linebacker, won't see it. They'll be hitting the guy in the flat because they're trying to play the run. They might see a sifter and they might not fall back to the correct gap. I just think Vanderbilt will find some holes in this LSU defense to where that's where those are the two separations for myself is I think they'll do a great job stopping the run against LSU because again they did have success against South Carolina but it was their one game of doing it. And I think Vanderbilt's really, Vanderbilt is really good at run on the football.

[Terra Lawan]

We have a lot of talks about coaches. If LSU drops this game to Vanderbilt in maybe not by three points but seven points.

[Josh Pay]

If they drop it, period. If they just drop it, period.

[Terra Lawan]

You know where the question's going.

[Josh Pay]

It's going to turn up on Brian Kelly. It's going to be a second conference loss.

[Will Compton]

So we got potential Michigan, we got potential LSU if you want to know.

[Josh Pay]

One where there's not noise right now.

[Will Compton]

Potential Auburn.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, like we talked about Michigan and that was kind of joking, kind of true. But like nationally no one's talking about LSU right now. Kind of like nationally people aren't talking about the Michigan job right now. You get on the message boards, they are just like lsu. You get on the message boards, there's like a quiet drum beat. I mean this is college football. You don't play 162 games. You play 12 of them, eight of them in conference right now in the SEC. So if they go loose to Vanderbilt Saturday, I don't care how good Vanderbilt is, they won't respect it. They don't respect it's a good hard fought loss like they would if you went and lost to Alabama by three or something like that. Brian Kelly does not have a ton of equity built up down there and I think that's an elite job and they know it's an elite job. Every coach there since the new millennium has won a national title. If you're going to losing to Vanderbilt, you just get further down the road of those people believing this guy's not going to win one here. Now, I wasn't even a supporter of Franklin getting fired. Firing coaches is always my last resort. But I have learned you got to take what I believe and put it on the shelf and talk about what reality is. Reality is their plane will not have landed in Baton Rouge Saturday if they lose to Vandy before that noise is really, really loud.

[Will Compton]

If the LSU job opens up, that's. That's number one job in the country.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, I believe so. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I mean, that's lsu.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah. Even if Florida is open, it really depends on what you think. Like, there are some guys who don't ever want to coach in the sec, so they would look at the Penn State job being better than the LSU job. Most people would look at the LSU job as being superior because of the access to talent and all that stuff. So it just depends on who you are. Like. Like take a Matt Campbell, for example. I don't think Campbell ever wants to coach in the sec. This is my guy. Yeah. I'll give him your. I'll give him business cards if you guys are interested in. But I don't think he'd want to coach at lsu. I don't think he'd want to coach in the sec. That's just his personal preference. Some guys don't want to, but generically, yeah. The LSU job would be what everything works downstream of. It would be like a keystone type job opening.

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[Will Compton]

You are a Form Energy guy. Form energy. We do the work. Back to the episode. Speaking of staying in the sec, we got this. A big one. Ole Miss at Georgia. Georgia favored right now by seven and a half. Our old boy. Seven and a half. He can't laugh anymore, can he? Over under on this game. 53 1/2.

[Terra Lawan]

Ole Miss well, how we feeling? Ole Miss in a dog fight with Washington State. You brought it up on Monday. They didn't even know they were playing Washington State until the third quarter. Fourth quarter.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, I need to believe that. Cause if the alternative is true, that just means Ole Miss is secret garbage.

[Terra Lawan]

Secret fraud is Georgia. Does the same go for Georgia and Auburn? Because Auburn at one point they're able to almost go up 170 if they don't fumble on the goal line. The quarterback sneak.

[Josh Pay]

Georgia had run 12 plays with a minute and a half to go in the first half. 42 plays to 12. And Auburn still pissed the game away somehow. Can't believe that. Could have been 17 to nothing. Was 10 to 3. And they do nothing in the second half. And Georgia finds a way. I mean, Kirby was caught on camera saying, we stole that one. He's right. They stole it. There's a lot of skill in being able to steal a win on the road in conference play. Georgia's not an elite team. People are trying to wrap their minds around that still. There are very few elite teams. Ohio State may be one, but you're not seeing Ohio State get tested every week either. But let's just say they are elite. I don't think there's an elite team in the sec, so that means all these teams are vulnerable in these spots. But remember this. We were just talking about Vandy and lsu and we all went Vandy. We went Vandy. Cause of the bye week. We went Vandy because of what's built up and pent up. And they just lost Obama. Well, Auburn had just come off back to back losses. Entire staff is under fire. They had a bye week to gear up for a home game at night against Georgia. So it's not a shock that the game was close. The line was three and a half on the game. So the game was supposed to be close. And it was. And Georgia found a way to win. Kirby all week. Are you clapping? Are you?

[Will Compton]

I'm just. Yeah, I'm doing the.

[Josh Pay]

That's a clap.

[Will Compton]

This is. Yeah, clapping. I think they call it clapping.

[Josh Pay]

I appreciate it.

[Will Compton]

Even if I'm yelling.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

No, you mean John Clapp. I'm trying to. Oh, yeah.

[Josh Pay]

I was saying hooray. Yeah, that's me saying hooray. So Kirby steps to the podium for his press conference this week and he's like, man, we need Sanford Stadium. We got to have this place on fire. We need the best home field environment in college football. It went over a lot of people's heads. That's normal. That's just a coach trying to charge up his place.

[Terra Lawan]

Oh.

[Will Compton]

Oh, shit.

[Josh Pay]

Let me tell you about first halfs in this game. It's the most important first half in college football. This Saturday.

[Will Compton]

Talk to us.

[Josh Pay]

Ole Miss, number six team in the country in first half passing. Georgia has gotten behind in every big game this year. Defensively, they are 85th in pass yards per first half allowed. They are 130th in first half completion percentage allowed. They are notorious for getting behind the eight ball this year. They got behind against Tennessee, had to fight back to win. They got behind against Alabama at home, did not come from behind. They were down bad against Auburn last week could have been a lot worse. They find a way to come from behind. Difference is Auburn did not have the explosivity element to their offense. They're in the 1/ hundreds. Ole Miss is a top 15 explosive team. So if Ole Miss gets up on you, Ole Miss can continue to score. Also you got to worry about the quarterback run, but you also have to worry about better wide risky wide receiver skill which Auburn did not have. There is a belief in Athens that this is a team you can't let get the lead. So somehow, some way they got to change everything they do and Georgia's got to be able to get the lead Now. There is the possibility there is that card in the deck that Ole Miss is a total fraud. They went to Kentucky and had a close win. Famously Lane did not cover against Kentucky earlier in the year. This is Trinidad Chambliss 1st SEC road start because he didn't start that game. Also, the Washington State result last week may not have been them overlooking them. Maybe Ole Miss just isn't all that great. So you got to find out are they hollow or are they for real? On the Ole Miss side, you got to find out if Georgia can flip this first half problem they've had. So if the line is above 7, which correct me if I'm wrong, it still is, right?

[Will Compton]

Yep.

[Terra Lawan]

Seven and a half.

[Josh Pay]

I'm doing the whole split the difference thing, but we're not talking about who's going to win straight up. I'm going to take Ole Miss plus three because there are enough scenarios where Ole Miss wins the game outright where I'm happy to take Ole Miss plus the seven and a half first half tells you everything. I would live bet this game with that. Yeah, I would live bet this game very hard.

[Terra Lawan]

It is. I think this game is going to come down like when you watch the first quarter, you're going to have a good idea of where Georgia stands in this game.

[Josh Pay]

Very.

[Terra Lawan]

They're one in three in their last four after the first quarter. And if Ole Miss, who is. If they're as potent of an offense as they claim to be, or it seems that they are and they're able to get up two scores on them in the first quarter, I don't think Georgia's able to come back in that way or definitely not come back. Plus win by set. Like by 8 points.

[Josh Pay]

Also, remember this. You get up on him, you can run the ball on him. Ole miss in the 90s in run defense. If Georgia's in a position where they trail and they have to throw the ball to catch up, Ole Miss is pretty good pass D, I think number 28 in the country, pass defense. So for like five different reasons we just laid out, it's so important Georgia does not fall behind. Please continue.

[Terra Lawan]

No, that was. That was it. That was it.

[Josh Pay]

No, that was it.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, I think. I think they're going to do. I think Ole Miss can win this game out right. I'm taking Ole Miss with the points.

[Josh Pay]

Oh, boy.

[Terra Lawan]

I know.

[Will Compton]

I kind of just want to take Georgia now. This is. This is about as lame as it gets, fellas. I had a fucking Anakin Skywalker analogy with Lane Kiffin.

[Terra Lawan]

You see him on the podium? Person asked him, hey, who you. You and Kirby Smart, a couple of fiery guys who you think burns more calories.

[Josh Pay]

Body shame.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, body shame. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Pay]

It's a whole new world. We can body shame people again.

[Terra Lawan]

Does he offer any points either way?

[Josh Pay]

No, not in the model.

[Terra Lawan]

Not in the model. Model doesn't do that.

[Josh Pay]

Can you imagine if you really get to know Kirby Smart and you find out that is what gets in his head. Of all the things that get said, like, you're a head coach in the sec, even when you're winning, you get ripped. And if you find out that it never affected him. But one of his peers, he talks to Lane a lot.

[Will Compton]

They're in a group chat.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, like one of his peers. He didn't even go to the group chat to call him fat. He called him fat publicly. If that's what gets you to play.

[Terra Lawan]

Devil'S advocate for Georgia. We sat here a few weeks ago with Georgia and Tennessee, and the big shot is, can Georgia keep up with Tennessee in their explosive place? Yep, because they go east to west so much to my Bobo, everyone hates him because he only goes east to west. They go to that game. They do go down, but they had a lot of explosive plays. They pushed the ball down the field the same way. Tennessee didn't end up coming away with a win.

[Josh Pay]

Tennessee in the 1002s in explosives allowed, which we'll talk about in the Bama Tennessee game later. Ole Miss. That's why I pointed out top 30 past D. It's a little different task having to play catch up against Ole Miss, not elite. I'm not saying that they're not shut down way different resistance than Tennessee is going to give you through the air.

[Terra Lawan]

All right.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Does Ole Miss become the hottest team in the SEC this weekend or does Georgia expose them as frauds?

[Josh Pay]

That's it.

[Will Compton]

Since you guys took Ole Miss, I'm just going to go Georgia taking Georgia -7 and a half.

[Terra Lawan]

Just. Only because.

[Will Compton]

Just because we're. We're aligned on every pick.

[Terra Lawan]

I know that is kind of tough. I feel like we're going to be aligned on this.

[Will Compton]

You loved lsu. You've been loving LSU all year and now you want Vandy.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, well, all the dominoes falling with Vandy and the Alabama thing, they were up, they were playing a good game. Started getting away from them in the second half. And if you're going to look at LSU and you're like, hey, their offense is going to be super strong this year and they're not the first couple games or defense steps up. This you can lean on the fact that, hey, their defense has been terrible. When Brian Kelly first got there, they've just gotten better and better and better. And, hey, that's a good defense. Now offense will figure it out. Nutmeyer. They have five picks against Florida and only come away with 20 points total. You watch, I mean, we're. We're over halfway through the football season. It's like at some point you got to jump ship. I'm not the captain of that ship. I'm not in Titanic or I'm gonna sit there and watch a wave just come in and crash in and take me out. I'm getting on the lifeboat. Yeah. Because I love to sit there and keep fighting. But, like, put the LSU film on. It's like, this doesn't look overly competitive to where they're going to win an sec. They're going to win the national championship. It feels like a coach is on the hot seat after this game.

[Josh Pay]

Game control is hard when you don't have a quarterback that can take the game over and you don't have a running game that can take the game.

[Terra Lawan]

And you're playing a team that dominates game control.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Terra Lawan]

Like the time position. I mean, I remember talking to JP after the South Carolina was like, there's nothing more inferior to me as a South Carolina fan. Just watching Vanderbilt sit there and let the clock take down.

[Josh Pay]

Yes. Third and three all night.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

Fourth and one all night.

[Terra Lawan]

You just wear them down over and over again. And the thing about Vanderbilt is they don't got to do that. They don't have to sit there because they LSU's offense is fraudulent.

[Josh Pay]

Right.

[Terra Lawan]

So they don't have to keep this offense off the field. If anything, it's like, hey, take a couple of shots at explosives, get ahead. So Nutmeyer's got to push the ball down the field and you're in trouble. Yeah, I like that.

[Will Compton]

I need Kirby Smart to know I will be tuned in the first half of that football game. This man over here is saying Georgia Bulldogs aren't elite. You're the fucking Georgia Bulldogs. Out physical, this fucking team. Hand the ball to Frazier. Gunner Stockton. Dice it out to Zach Zachariah or Zachary Zachariah Branch. I want an ass whooping this weekend. What is it, Sanford or Samford Stadium?

[Josh Pay]

Sanford.

[Will Compton]

Sanford Stadium. Show the up. Give me. Give me. Georgia minus seven and a half.

[Terra Lawan]

Could you imagine if Zach or Zachariah Branch stayed at usc? That would be. There'd be a diabolical offense.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. They kind of already wouldn't be getting his. He wouldn't be able to show up this week against Ole Miss.

[Terra Lawan]

You should have three wide receiver ones.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Never run it. Also, we didn't talk about. UFC is missing their top two running backs. Yeah, they are, but that fucking walk on, Jared. Oh, my God, they're gonna throw.

[Josh Pay]

They got, like, five of them all of a sudden. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Have you thought about. Have you guys thought about. And look, I'm off.

[Josh Pay]

I'm just going back.

[Will Compton]

I'm awful. Miss. Have you guys thought about Lane Kiffin being the Anakin Skywalker of college football?

[Terra Lawan]

Do you want to do your analogy?

[Will Compton]

I just. I thought of an analogy.

[Josh Pay]

He trashed it like a moon.

[Will Compton]

Well, because. Yeah, I had. This whole thing gave me just. This is something I can root. Root for and get behind.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And that's the Hollywood of college football that I love to buy and love to play into. But Lane Kiffin, stick with me here.

[Josh Pay]

Listen, listen.

[Will Compton]

Once upon a time, in a faraway galaxy, Lane Kiffin or Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one. You had the Jedi Master, Nick Saban, the Yoda, the Obi Wan Kenobi, whichever one you want to call him, teaching them about process, order, discipline, structure. But what made Lane Kiffin great was his creativity. The little bit of swag he had, the energy, the trolling. You know, Nick Saban, he doesn't teach to get out there in press conferences, to give these one line bits that we all love to laugh at. Because Kiffin knows he's kind of a funny guy as well. And everything that made Kiffin great is kind of what burned him with Alabama some Bad. This was a. A bad little breakup when he left Alabama. Because over in the corner was Mace Windu. Or as I like to think Kirby Smart was all about. Loyal to the order, loyal to the Council, the protector of the teachings of Nick Saban. He's gone out to kind of recreate it and be. And be that Nick Saban, now that Nick Saban's gone, he's the protector of the galaxy.

[Josh Pay]

Right?

[Will Compton]

Lane Kiffin now goes to Ole Miss. That is his Death Star. This is where Death Darth Kiffin is born. He wanted to rewrite the system, rewrite the playbook. He's been in conversations where he said that. Everything I learned about all these defensive masterminds with Kirby Smart, Nick Saban and all those guys, and he created this offensive playbook to defeat these defenses. So when he stands on the sideline on Saturday and looks across the field and he sees. Fucking focus. And he sees Kirby Smart on the other side. AKA it's not about. AKA Mace Windu. It's not about just winning this football game. It's about showing the world that you don't have to be a clone of Nick Saban to conquer the galaxy, to conquer college football. And it's. It's Hollywood and theatrics like that. Where I do love this game, and it's something I would have wanted to root for if we all weren't across the board on every pick. So that was kind of my analogy of. This is kind of the Anakin Skywalker of college football. Somebody a little bit of a bad boy wants to do it this way. A little bit more ego than the other guys. So that was kind of my analogy and something. I think the Star wars sickos could sit with me like. Yeah, that's a pretty.

[Terra Lawan]

I mean, that went hard. Everything you just said. How many times you do that in the mirror?

[Will Compton]

One time on the car ride over.

[Josh Pay]

I'm just really glad you didn't write all that on the note cards where I had to read.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Pay]

73 note cards.

[Will Compton]

Break this down. Just start scrolling. Read it out loud.

[Terra Lawan]

I mean, everything you just said is Ole Miss all the way.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, yeah. Or you made me feel good.

[Will Compton]

Or the light fucking wins on Saturday. Not the dark side. Fuck the dark side.

[Josh Pay]

Imagine the ending of Jaws if instead of shooting that shark and blowing him up, he just misses the tank of gas and the shark just devours him. That's. That's Lane. That's Lane sinking into the ocean with the rifle in his hand. And Kirby's just chewing on the gas tank as he's coming at him full speed. And this is not going to take as long as the Star wars analogy. Plus, I haven't seen Star wars, but you just. You fire and you fire and you fire and you miss and he eats you. That's the Georgia win. Would have been an interesting ending to that movie if the shark just takes out Chief Brody and just rips him into 37 pieces.

[Terra Lawan]

Sounds like you have an opportunity here. Remake.

[Will Compton]

We're talking about Kirby Smart and the Georgia Bulldogs. Outside of just losing the Bama, they lost the Bama and snapped that. How many game win streak. Winning streak. Home.

[Josh Pay]

The pre Covid game.

[Will Compton]

Pre Covid winning streak. They're back at home. They're at home against lsu starting a new streak. It just could be that simple that we're overthinking it so much where it's like George is going to take care of this team, but George is going.

[Terra Lawan]

To win this game by more than by two scores.

[Will Compton]

Seven and a half. Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

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[Terra Lawan]

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[Terra Lawan]

We got Tennessee at Alabama, third Saturday in October. Generational matchup. Joey Aguilar versus Ty Simpson.

[Will Compton]

Hey, high and tight.

[Terra Lawan]

Alabama favored seven and a half points. Total points. That game is 58 and a half. Lot of orange in the live studio audience today. Would any of you like to come and stand up and speak for your team before we get into this game?

[Will Compton]

Come on, Jack. Yes, just standing in the corner.

[Terra Lawan]

Also, big Alabama fan. Garrett, go up there. He will speak next. We will make our decisions after that.

[Josh Pay]

There's a live up there.

[Terra Lawan]

I will try and keep this short and sweet. If you Keys to success one set the tempo. Gotta go out there with structure, play calling mixed in with some ambitious stuff. Get Alabama's defense a little off kilter. We gotta win in the trenches. Establish the run game early so we can open up for play action. Passes have to protect Joey Aguilar at all cost. Biggest key to success Defense bend. Do not break. We know there are holes there in the secondary. They're saying a lot of stuff. It's a field of dreams, as is one of the Bama wide receivers mentioned this week, which I love. Good bulletin board material and special teams need explosive plays and got to flip the field. The last time Tennessee won in Brian Denny was 2003. It was a 5 OT game. I don't know what's going to happen. It's scary, historically. Tennessee does not perform well in Bryant Denny. But I'll just say this right now. Tell us. If Joey Aguilar goes down into Tuscaloosa and wins, we're building a goddamn statue in Knoxville and that's all. Thank you, Jack.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Well said, Jack Garrett.

[Terra Lawan]

A lot of fear in that, Jax.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Jack's keys of the game win in every area of the game.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah. Third Saturday in October. We all know what this one means. It will be me versus the world this weekend on the Stream. Make sure you tune in. I think Alabama's got to keep the mindset of this is business. I know we just did a little bit of talking about the field of dreams, but when we get on the field, it is play. Get back for the next play, shut them down. It's got to have that same locked in attitude and get it done. A great coach once said, the biggest disrespect is when someone tries to take what's yours. So let's not be denied what we want Roll, Tad.

[Will Compton]

Well said. Well said.

[Terra Lawan]

If you're going up.

[Will Compton]

The speeches and you can just. They're boys.

[Terra Lawan]

They're boys. But Gary Garrett's got like a calm, like. I know. It's a thing you can tell.

[Will Compton]

They both have respect. They both want to say. And, you know, let's get a couple things for an edge.

[Terra Lawan]

Right.

[Will Compton]

Kind of hear the nerves in the voice. Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

What is the. The thing you said last week? It was like rock, paper, scissors, but if one plus one plus one equals transitive property.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Does that take place here?

[Josh Pay]

Well, yes. Yes. Possibly. Possibly.

[Terra Lawan]

Did I follow the transitive property correctly?

[Josh Pay]

Not. Not necessarily. It's okay.

[Terra Lawan]

Tennessee. Georgia.

[Josh Pay]

Tennessee. Georgia's the common opponent. So Georgia beat Tennessee. Bama beat Georgia. Therefore, Bama's got a roll against Tennessee according to the transitive property.

[Terra Lawan]

Okay, but just before we go into the game.

[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

Did I get transitive property? Correct.

[Josh Pay]

You. You brushed up against it enough.

[Will Compton]

Where?

[Josh Pay]

I knew what you were talking about.

[Terra Lawan]

That's all I care about, man. That's all right.

[Will Compton]

All right. So what do you got, Taylor?

[Terra Lawan]

Dude, yesterday, this game was at nine and a half. Two days ago. Nine and a half. And I was like, this has got to be Tennessee all the way. I listen to Paquel talk about how the back end of Tennessee is absolutely horrendous. They give up explosive plays all the time. All the time. And then. But then he comes up and he's like. But they get the number one sack rate in college football. Or top five sac rate in college football, like 7.55%, whatever that percentage means to you. And it's like, okay, all right, that's a good. That's a good note. We got to get after the quarterback. But what does Ty Simpson do? Well, he does well throwing the ball in the pocket, but he does even better on these. Hey, he's under pressure. He gets himself out of pressure. These wide receivers, you got the infection. And the guy who was the teddy bear, Ryan Williams, who might be a future Michigan Wolverine, you got those guys out there and they're going to separate in those off schedule plays. And as his line gets lower and lower towards Alabama. I was sitting with the Vols. I think I'm rolling Tide. They hurt me last week after I've kind of been against them for a while. But for whatever reason, seven and a half points. Brian Denny Stadium. What color hoodie are we wearing? Black.

[Josh Pay]

All black.

[Terra Lawan]

All black hoodie for Kaylin DeBoer. 12 and 2. And then I think about us in the beginning of the year. You talk about the back end of Alabama's defense, how everybody is an NFL guy. Not only is everybody who's on the field, but the guys who are off the field winning their turn are also NFL guys. They're starting to turn up in the run game. Ty Simpson is one of those dudes that after week one, you're like, you know, do we have a problem?

[Will Compton]

No.

[Terra Lawan]

He is a Heisman favorite for a reason. And I'm just. I sit there, I'm like, if they haven't won since 2003, does that really change this year? And I liked nine and a half. I sit there at seven and a half. I'm taking Alabama.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I think this Game's Alabama. Alabama -7 and a half. I think they had a moment where they could have lost last week at Mizzou, where that could have been their letdown spot. But seeing them take care of business and obviously DeBoer, friend of the show, he was kind of talking about the same. Yeah, Hypo, friend of the show. But a couple weeks ago, whenever we had him on. And you just the urgency that they have there, the way that they have bounced back this season after that, very far away now, Week one loss against Florida State. I think they've handled themselves in such a way to where, you know, they're locked in and focus. And I think this is going to be one of those games to where it could be close going into halftime. And Tennessee fans are more so you if you're Sitting there watching the game, rooting for your team. Like, man, if we could have got off the field on those third longs or we could have converted points on this one, like, this is a game that in their minds feel closer than what it is. And then I think of Alabama and I think that they are a national title, competitive type team to where last year, if you go NFL analogies, it was almost like you could be close at halftime against last year, the Eagles against the Lions. But once you get in the second half and they're able to lean on you, and again, Ty Simpson, this offense, they can throw the ball as well as anybody. He takes care of the football. I think Tennessee is going to need turnovers. I just don't think they'll get them with Ty Simpson. Their back end is not very good. And if you're, if you're in the secondary and you're hearing those comments, hopefully you take it as bulletin board material. But if you know you're a liability in the back end and you know the other guy on the other side of the ball is feasting and salivating at the opportunity and knows that, oh, these guys, these boys ain't any good, you're going to do one of two things. When that, when that game kicks off on Saturday, you're either going to obviously show up, see this bulletin board material, compete, or the moment one catches on you, you are, you're in your own head. I think it's much harder to be a DB than it is a wide receiver talking shit. So I like Alabama, I like Alabama to cover this game.

[Terra Lawan]

And both those last things you said can be true together. Like you can have the idea of. I'm going to flip the script here. I'm going to, I'm going to compete, I'm going to be a dog this week.

[Will Compton]

But if one catch, it just takes one catch.

[Terra Lawan]

Very easy to go back.

[Will Compton]

Takes one explosive play.

[Terra Lawan]

Man, we really just can't get right to the point where we're pointing fingers a little bit. Yeah, I do believe there's a piece of me that believes in Josh Hypo's offense, though. If he was a Pokemon, he'd be ditto. He's. He's. He can adapt to essentially anything and become. It's the same formula offense he wants to be.

[Will Compton]

It's the same formula they got to have that they showed against Georgia where, you know, they, they should have won that game. Georgia escaped it, ended up beating them. But it's like you got to win explosives early. You're going to have to have the lead against this team. I just don't think they don't have enough in the second half against bama.

[Josh Pay]

Same offensive staff for Tennessee against the same defensive staff for bama as last year. They beat Bama last year. What stood out to me, I was at this game last year was how many guys ran wide open that nico missed. So there was a lot of meat left on the bone. So the line is seven and a half, right? Yeah. Okay. So in order to pull upsets in rivalry games, just historically college football has shown you you have to take something on the stat sheet and rip the stat sheet up. To me, for Tennessee, that would be. A couple of things have to happen here. One would make sense, the other wouldn't. The first one is Josh hyple's entire offense is predicated on running the ball, Even though everyone thinks it's throwing the ball all over the place. You got a really good ground game again against a bama run d in the 90s. So if you start controlling the game early like that, everything kind of falls into place like dominoes. The other thing that would not make sense is what if bama turned the ball over? They've only done it twice all year, like you guys said. What would force that? This Tennessee secondary is terrible. What would force that? Probably playing a lot of zone against Alabama, forcing them to be patient and they get a little too aggressive. This could be the kind of game where Ty Simpson throws for 360 but has a couple of picks and you look at it and you say, wow, bama's out gaining and wow, Ty's stat line looks great. But you try and just go get a little bit too much, a little bit too often and something happens where Tennessee, who is number two in the sec in takeaways, I think three defensive scores in the past four or five games, six games, something like that, where they snatch a possession or two like that and that would be how an upset would happen. The problem with all of that is I watched bama against Missouri last week.

[Terra Lawan]

That's a lie.

[Josh Pay]

Focus.

[Will Compton]

I know.

[Josh Pay]

Focus. They left so much on the field and they know it and they've talked about it all week, about how many. How many receiving yards were left on the field that I think it's such a premium focus with them. And I think the biggest mismatch on our entire card this week is bama's passing game against the secondary. Number 15 pass offense, number 123 pass defense. Number 18 in explosive. Number 126 in explosives allowed close game. Like you said, early. I think there are moments where you think Tennessee's got a shot here and then it ended up Bama winning double digits in the end. Oh, so I'll take Bama to win a cover. Good.

[Terra Lawan]

You did that last time, Jack.

[Josh Pay]

Have you guys been to this game? You have not.

[Terra Lawan]

We were at this game last year.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, this.

[Josh Pay]

This is the most.

[Will Compton]

Because also who else was throwing? Yeah, they. Nico might have missed some shots, but who also missed some shots?

[Josh Pay]

Jalen Milroe.

[Will Compton]

Jalen Milro. There's laundry all over the field. I felt like there's a lot of penalties that game too. To where it's, you know, some disciplined football.

[Josh Pay]

The old school Bama folks tell you this is the biggest rivalry they have, bigger than Auburn. The older Bama folks, the younger Bama folks don't know that because they had that 15 year run and it sort of muted the rivalry. The older Bama folks, and I was brought up around this. The older ones, the ones that stack the VHS tapes in their basement and you watch them on rainy Saturdays, they tell you about Bama, Tennessee and so you go to the game. I've been to the last two in Neyland and they've won the last two in Neyland. And the cigar tradition after the game and especially Tennessee getting over the hump finally. I think it's re energized this rivalry. The Bama folks always take it seriously anyway. But now that they've lost two out of three to Tennessee, including last year, and they get them in their house at night, there's one or two games per year where you turn it on and you say, wow, this environment's jumping off the screen to me and like it's an sec at night. I'm not surprised. But wow, this feels a little extra. That I think is how this game will feel Saturday. So much so that my wife formerly worked at Alabama in recruiting and marketing with Saban for a long time. We're doing LSU Vandy Saturday. I'm getting strong request to make an off the record trip down there for the game Saturday night. So you may see me down there. You gonna fall off the record?

[Will Compton]

Off the record, yeah.

[Josh Pay]

It's not a fall. Don't lie. It's like a non sanctioned attended game. If I go. Yeah, weather. Weather permitting, of course.

[Terra Lawan]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Listen, we know this. This environment's gonna jump off the screen. We're having our. The sickos we got in the shop. We got what, three. Three Tennessee guys, one Bama guy. Yeah.

[Josh Pay]

Five.

[Will Compton]

We will be live streaming this game on Saturday night. So tune into the bus with the Boys Channel. We'll be live streaming this game.

[Josh Pay]

It's an unbelievable vibe in the studio. For those who can't see right now because you. It's usually jovial. Everyone's smiling, everyone is frowned with their arms crossed, staring at us. Right now, it's like the dmv.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. It's like they're trying to stay composed. But you look at Garrett over there and his foot's just been going the whole time. Jack's just sitting over there like, yeah, keep hating on us.

[Terra Lawan]

Before we, before we close the show. If this line was at nine and a half, would you lean towards Tennessee?

[Josh Pay]

I would need ten and a half or more to go. Tennessee. Yeah, I got it. I got it right at 10. That's the model.

[Terra Lawan]

The model. And the model does love Michigan this week.

[Josh Pay]

The model loves Michigan. Do you love Michigan?

[Terra Lawan]

I love Michigan.

[Josh Pay]

You do love Michigan.

[Terra Lawan]

I love Michigan.

[Josh Pay]

So you and the model love Michigan. I would go with Michigan. William, would you go with Michigan this weekend?

[Will Compton]

I'm not going to bet that game. I thought about getting on Washington, but I watched the Washington games and they do, they struggle to get going early. I just think Michigan, you know, they're going to have to get it to where they're not playing from behind because Washington could score points. I think the quarterback number two, he's very good. Yeah, he'll be running around. Yeah. And I only jump on that just because it's like I hear, like when you hear, you know, folks talk about Michigan, they talk about, you know, they want to out physical. You make it, they're going to run the ball on. They'll get them in the second half. They're known for defense and everything else. I just feel like that mindset is more so tied to the 2023 national championship team and not the product that they've kind of had on the field over the last couple years. Just because again, if they're going to actually be a contender in the Big Ten, look at, you know, whether it's a college football playoff or a Big Ten title game. Get in there like it's going to be. They're going to have to take the governor off of fucking Bryce Underwood. He's going to have to show that he can just win.

[Terra Lawan]

They got to take the governor off Bryce Underwood, but they've also got to do it in a way that's like. Like not just Brady, Bryce, you just throw the whole time like there needs to be creative play calling that.

[Will Compton]

No, I agree. Yes. Yeah. I'm not saying, like, is Bryce good or not?

[Josh Pay]

Yeah, you're right.

[Will Compton]

I'm not saying that.

[Terra Lawan]

The creativity on offense, I don't disagree with. I think 21, 2 and 3. The three years we made the playoffs, it was strong run game, but having a balance of pass as well and a very, very strong defense, that's going to suffocate you. I think it was Fleck who said, like, they're a boa constrictor and that very much is it. You see pieces of that. Even last year we couldn't throw the ball at all from a defensive standpoint and running the football. And this year it's like, it feels like we. Okay, we. Now we know we can pass a little bit, but how do you now implement the pass while still, you know, putting the run? Like having, still having a strong run game? Because it is built on explosives. It is built on, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna wear you down over and over again and we're going to keep popping these explosives on you. Do they feel that they can do that while they're still trying to throw the football as well? So it feels like there is a identity crisis to me. A little bit on the opposite side of the ball. That's what. So all the things you're saying, I.

[Will Compton]

Don'T disagree because it's like, it's like if you get in third and long, third and longer, it's almost like, I wonder what they're going to call here. Are they going to convert? Whereas in the.

[Terra Lawan]

If you go to a bubble screen, we have your receivers blocking the perimeter. And if you're in third and nine, and it's like, do we have the horses right now? The speed and the elusiveness to get 9 yards if you're just throwing a little bubble screen out there real quick. I personally would like to see pressing down the field, which we did a little bit in the second half against usc.

[Will Compton]

Right, right. Yeah, the point. Yeah, the point I was making was in the identity that Michigan is assuming they have from the national championship team is you're rarely in third long situations. It's like it could be third, four, four and below. And it's like, oh, they're going to find a way to convert here because they're just bigger, stronger, tougher, more physical, all this stuff. Now they get in the third longer and it's like the creativity offensively, it's almost like they, it's. They don't know really how to convert these third longs. And then they're kind of fighting to get back. And it's not a team that can win from behind.

[Terra Lawan]

I agree.

[Will Compton]

So I'm personally staying away from the Washington because I just don't know what. What brand of Washington football we're going to. If they win, it's like their only loss right now is to Ohio State. Yeah, their only loss. Change to me, if they, if they beat Michigan, it's like Ohio State. You can confirm that this is an elite football team because they handled them at Washington, held them with what, six, nine points? Something like that. And also Washington deserves a lot more respect because their only loss right now would be against Ohio State because they're not even in the top 25.

[Josh Pay]

Think about what could happen to Oregon this weekend. Oregon plays Rutgers. No one's paying attention to that game. Longest trip of the year for them, by the way. So Oregon plays USC later in the year, plays Washington later in the year. Not a lot of attention on those games at the moment. Over the span of a few hours Saturday, if you were to have the upsets, if USC were to go into South Bend and win and. Or. But especially. Or if what? Or. And if Washington also beats Michigan, you've got two games all of a sudden on Oregon schedule. USC and Washington, they play back to back last two weeks of the regular season. That could end up being a nightmare for them. Just something to keep an eye on.

[Will Compton]

Something to keep an eye on. Feel good, fellas.

[Terra Lawan]

A lot of texts we fly in those two weeks.

[Will Compton]

Love you. Appreciate you. Big cuck. Signing kisses. What is it? Oh, gosh. Yeah, sorry. We're having so much fun. We almost got away from the dogs of the week. Here's mine. Look. Willie C's dog of the week. Michigan State plus 27 and a half. This play is not like I think Michigan State's gonna win. I think they have zero shot winning this game. This is more of. We have a lot of points out there. Plus 27 and a half. Indiana coming off big wins. It's like, you know, you're looking. You're in the locker room, you're looking at, oh, Michigan State. They'll probably get out of there winning by 24 points. So I'm taking Michigan State plus 27 and a half.

[Josh Pay]

I got Pitt in a huge letdown spot against Syracuse. I love betting backup quarterbacks. I think there's low key value on them. Syracuse plus 10 and a half against Pitt.

[Terra Lawan]

I got Georgia Tech plus one and a half. Taking the money line versus Duke. I can't believe you didn't have Georgia Tech as your dog of the week.

[Josh Pay]

I do like them. I just like Cuse more. I do like him, though.

[Terra Lawan]

Duke paid a million dollars for the quarterback, $8 million for the quarterback. They lost to Illinois. I think Georgia Tech's for real in the acc.

[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pay]

Yeah.

[Terra Lawan]

I told JP I'd do this in the beginning of the week. I'm holding true to my word. I'm taking South Carolina versus Oklahoma.

[Josh Pay]

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[Terra Lawan]

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[Josh Pay]

You know what month it is.

[Terra Lawan]

You get one opportunity this week. Is Mater playing? I don't think it matters.

[Josh Pay]

He's right. It doesn't matter.

[Terra Lawan]

I don't think it does. I don't think it matters. Injured. That dumb.

[Will Compton]

Then you get groked.

[Josh Pay]

I got groked?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you got a eyed.

[Josh Pay]

I got aied about the myth according to Grok, not me. That is cocktober. Grok actually thinks Cockvember should exist because Beamer's record is better in November. But I replied, you're AI. You don't know what you're talking about. Also, Cockvember does not roll off the tongue like Coctober does and South Carolina outright Saturday. So I think you're gonna. I think you're gonna win. I'm taking Mississippi State, by the way.

[Terra Lawan]

Mississippi State.

[Josh Pay]

I'll take Mississippi State plus the points against Florida. Florida last gasp was last week. You can make a lot of money in college football, betting a team the week after their last gasp when they're giving points to a very motivated team that needs a signature win. Mississippi State almost had it against Tennessee and they now got a shot to go on the road or wherever this game. Yeah, I think it's on the road. I'm going to take Mississippi State plus the points. I think there's legitimate upset potential in that game.

[Terra Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

I might be rooting for chaos here, but Mizzou, Mizzou minus one and a half. They are at Auburn. Auburn emotional loss. You know, the touchdown they should have had on the goal line. You got Kirby Smart doing the. Doing the clap like, big emotional spot for them. They're coming out of it. They're trying to get up from Missouri. Coming to town. Can't sleep on Mizzou. That's a tough football team. Right now. Mizzou is favored by one and a half. I like Mizzou at Auburn to cover. And that is our parlay.

[Terra Lawan]

So both of you guys, this is the. This is a chaos parlay.

[Josh Pay]

Other than mine, yes it is.

[Will Compton]

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[Josh Pay]

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