Josh Pate, Will Compton HAMMER Michigan-Oklahoma OVER, Taylor Lewan: Bryce Underwood Is GENERATIONAL

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bussin' With The Boys – Josh Pate, Will Compton HAMMER Michigan-Oklahoma OVER, Taylor Lewan: Bryce Underwood Is GENERATIONAL

Date: September 3, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan
Guest: Josh Pate

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Overview

This episode of Bussin' With The Boys dives deep into Week 2 of the college football season, unpacking reactions from Week 1, dissecting major matchups, and engaging in lively debate about "generational quarterbacks." The crew explores betting lines, recaps their picks, and delivers strong opinions—most notably about Alabama’s surprising struggles, the never-ending discourse around Arch Manning, and the highly anticipated Michigan-Oklahoma clash. The recurring theme: generational talent and the culture behind successful (or failing) programs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Week 1 Recap & Accountability

• Rough Betting Start: Hosts recount their rough Week 1 bets—Will Compton (1-6), Josh Pate (3-4), and Taylor Lewan (3-4)—but reinforce the importance of bouncing back.

  • "Two things happen when you get hit in the mouth...you wake up...or you fold like a lawn chair. Last time I checked, there's no lawn chairs on the locker room." – Will Compton [01:10]

• Alabama's Collapse: Massive focus on Alabama’s shockingly poor performance, with the group examining cultural cracks, coaching changes (Nick Saban to Kalen DeBoer), and rumors of off-field issues.

  • "That was my...instinct on it all...If there is actual player leadership in the locker room..." – Will Compton [08:22]

• Nick Saban’s Shadow: Josh Pate draws contrasts between Saban’s ability to manage chaos and the current perception of a program adrift.

  • "One of the things I admired the most about Saban is that place was a disaster sometimes of chaos behind the scenes...and you never knew it because they kept winning." – Josh Pate [10:12]

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2. The “Generational Quarterback” Discourse

• Arch Manning Hype & Backlash: In-depth analysis of Arch Manning’s underwhelming performance against Ohio State and the subsequent media pile-on.

  • "Early in that game...he chooses not to use his legs...it seemed like that was a coach thing." – Taylor Lewan [19:33]
  • "I just think the crowd that's yelling, 'he's not a generational quarterback,' at the crowd that labeled him one—that crowd's way bigger." – Josh Pate [20:24]

• Race, Media, and Narratives: Hosts recognize how narratives about "generational" label shift, even touching on race and media bias.

  • "You know why they're calling a generational talent? Because he's got the complexion for the protection." – Will Compton [24:38]

• Handling Pressure: Manning’s accountability in his presser earned respect, with hosts emphasizing it's just one game and predicting he’ll be fine.

  • "It starts with me. You know, I enjoy seeing that out of a player..." – Will Compton [25:00]

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3. The JP Poll Debate

• Model vs. AP Poll: Josh Pate explains his data-driven JP Poll and how it’s predictive, not reactive to results or narratives—facing backlash for Alabama's ranking.

  • "That's the JP. I partnered with a data scientist...all we wanted to do was create a predictive model..." – Josh Pate [13:29]
  • "Bama, according to fanduel...would be an 8 1/2 point favorite against FSU on neutral field..." – Josh Pate [14:26]

• Logic vs. Emotion in Rankings: The guys discuss the logic gaps in AP polling and why power ratings don’t always reflect win/loss results.

  • "At least mine has logic behind it. Even if people disagree with it..." – Josh Pate [15:52]

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4. Conference Strengths & Perceptions

• SEC Reality Check: Panel asserts that the SEC remains deep ("like the Nashville skyline"), but lacks a clear dominant skyscraper after Week 1 upsets.

  • "There's not a big skyscraper there. It's just a bunch of pretty tall buildings." – Josh Pate [16:08]

• Battle of Biases: Will Compton grapples with loyalty as a Big Ten fan who deeply respects SEC football.

  • "I have both of those people in my body, in my mind, when I think about the SEC..." – Will Compton [17:28]

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5. Game Previews, Picks & Betting Analysis

Virginia Tech vs. Vanderbilt ([31:31])

• Virginia Tech the Desperate Favorite: Josh Pate sees VT as desperate after Week 1; Taylor and Will both lead toward Vandy (bandwagon affection for intern-turned-player Cade McConnell).
  • "I actually think Virginia Tech's going to ugly out a win here...revenge spot." – Josh Pate [33:08]

Kansas at Missouri ([36:46])

• Expect Points, Love the Over: The boys highlight the historic rivalry and expect a shootout. All like Missouri to win but love the OVER most.
  • "I love the over in this game." – Will Compton [38:17]
  • "I think Missouri is going to tilt this game...too athletic, long, fast." – Josh Pate [44:39]

USF at Florida ([47:56])

• Disagreement on Cover: Taylor and Will are bullish on Florida, but Josh Pate calls for a USF cover, predicting a potential Florida trap/backdoor.
  • "USF is going to cover here somehow, by the way." – Josh Pate [49:49]
  • "D.J. Lagway and the Florida Gators are going to stomp that ass in the swamp." – Taylor Lewan [49:35]

Iowa at Iowa State ([53:25])

• Classic Defensive Battle: General agreement Iowa remains the gritty, reliable pick, but Rocco Becht (ISU) gets respect. Will and Taylor split on sides, with Josh leaning Iowa State.
  • "Dead taxes and Phil Parker's defense." – Taylor Lewan [53:41]
  • "Give me Iowa State. Covering. Covering this." – Taylor Lewan [57:01]

Michigan at Oklahoma (Game of the Week) ([61:12])

• Over is the Consensus: All see a high-scoring battle. Taylor is ALL IN on Michigan to beat Oklahoma outright, citing DNA and resilience, while Josh leans Oklahoma slightly but hammers the OVER. Will also picks Michigan straight up.
  • "When it's pressure and their backs against the wall, they swing no matter what. That's what I like about Michigan." – Taylor Lewan [65:49]
  • "I cannot believe this number is only 45 and a half. I think it should be upper 40s..." – Josh Pate [67:39]

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6. Running Gags & Notable Moments

• “Generational” Joke Beat to Death: By the end, the label becomes almost a parody, with every promising quarterback—good or bad!—getting the tag.

  • “Do you think it's now if you're a bad quarterback, you're generational?” – Taylor Lewan [31:11]
  • “I do think we can all agree on this...This is a generational college football season because it's wide open.” – Will Compton [31:19]

• Willie B the Gorilla: A running, light-hearted sidebar about Will’s nickname and a famous Atlanta zoo gorilla.

• Betting & Accountability: Panel is honest about picks gone wrong—and promising to bet their show parlay this week!

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Will Compton: “Two things happen when you get hit in the mouth...Last time I checked, there's no lawn chairs on the locker room.” [01:10]
• Josh Pate: "One of the things I admired the most about Saban is that place was a disaster sometimes of chaos behind the scenes..." [10:12]
• Taylor Lewan: "Do you think it's now if you're a bad quarterback, you're generational?" [31:11]
• Will Compton: "You know why they're calling [him] a generational talent? Because he's got the complexion for the protection." [24:38]
• Josh Pate: "Bama, according to fanduel, would be an 8 1/2 point favorite against FSU on neutral field..." [14:26]
• Taylor Lewan: "When it's pressure and their backs against the wall, they swing no matter what. That's what I like about Michigan." [65:49]
• Josh Pate: "I cannot believe this number is only 45 and a half. I think it should be upper 40s..." [67:39]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Week 1 Recap & Alabama Discussion: [00:00–12:55]
• Generational QB & Arch Manning Debate: [18:57–28:27]
• JP Poll Explanation: [12:55–15:52]
• Conference Strengths & SEC Talk: [15:52–18:27]
• Virginia Tech vs. Vanderbilt Preview: [31:31–36:12]
• Kansas at Missouri/Battle for the Border: [36:46–45:22]
• USF at Florida Analysis: [47:56–53:10]
• Iowa at Iowa State Preview: [53:25–60:46]
• Michigan at Oklahoma Game of the Week: [61:12–68:53]
• Miscellaneous: Running Jokes & Parlay Picks: [71:53–80:18]

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Conclusion

This episode is filled with smart, passionate, often hilarious college football talk. It’s must-listen for fans who want betting insights, cultural hot takes, or just to hear former players and analysts riff on the sport’s unpredictable chaos. The ongoing “generational” quarterback banter and honest debrief about picking games make it both informative and highly entertaining.

Bottom Line: The panel is split on many picks but united on one main point—this college football season is shaping up to be generational in its unpredictability and excitement.

Transcript

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to another episode of the Locker Room. It is week two of college football season. Before I go any farther, I just want to thank everybody for subscribing to this channel. 2000, 2000 new subscribers, new eyes and ears listening to this show. Thank you guys for enjoying it and thank you for hitting the subscribe button. Listen, Rocky, week one. I take you over to the board. The NCAA is trying to run out Kaylin DeBoer for the abysmal performance by Alabama. Willie C going one and six. Josh Pate going three and four. Taylor Lawan going three and four. We tasted a little blood in our mouth and two things happen when you get hit in the mouth. You wake up in the the next morning, you keep going, you show up and you keep moving forward or you fold like a lawn chair. Last time I checked, there's no lawn chairs on the locker room. We're talking all ball this week, boys. We got the JP Poll that just dropped. And surprising note, before you go crazy in the comments, he still got Texas at number one and the generational talent of Arch Manning at number one. The AP pole drop and we got a big slate of games this weekend. Generational quarterback Pavia goes on the handle. Vtech goes on at Virginia Tech. I think that's going to be a spicy game. Jalen Daniels, generational quarterback, he goes at Mizzou. Battle for the border. You got USF going down to face generational quarterback DJ Lagway. Then you got battle for the state, Iowa at Rocco Beck. That is a generational quarterback, boys. And at Iowa State. And then the generational quarterback matchup of the weekend. You got Michigan and Bryce Underwood, the rising star, going to Norman, Oklahoma. They're known for two things that sooner football and tornadoes. A couple of Josh Pate's favorites. They take on generational quarterback John Mateer. We're happy you. We're happy you're here. If you enjoy this show, all we ask is that you subscribe. Let's get this party started.

[B]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[C]

All right, fellas, before this generational show gets started, you guys know the drill. Every Saturday, FanDuel's got us boosting. It's called boosting with the boys. And it's exactly what it sounds like, a profit boost for college football every single Saturday. Crack open the app, tap in your boost, and boom, you're cooking. We're talking real teams, real Saturdays, and that extra payout to make your wins hit harder. You're already betting college football.

[B]

This is all part of it.

[C]

So if you're not boosting with the boys, what are you even doing here? Okay, head to FanDuel.com and I get set up. Head to FanDuel.com Bussin to download the app. Lock in your booth this Saturday and let's have some fun. Couple housekeeping items, generational show. Housekeeping items. This show. You're watching this. If you like college football, you love NFL. We have the NFL portion of college football or NFL portions of the locker room. Also Thursday night the boys are streaming our first stream in the gambling cave. Watching Philly versus the Cowboys is going to be a hell of a time. Unfortunately, Josh Pate won't be there Saturday. A game we'll talk about today. Oklahoma Michigan at Oklahoma. Big game. Massive game. Not only for myself but entire country. Some people are saying it's bigger than Texas, Ohio State.

[B]

Some people are.

[C]

Some people are actually saying that. I don't know if you heard, we'll also be streaming that game, that is at 7:30 Eastern onto the show. How do we feel, boys?

[A]

I feel good. Where'd you get that card?

[C]

Oh, you didn't have this card?

[A]

Will Taylor will opener.

[C]

Oh, then you read that one real quick.

[A]

The locker room is presented by the FanDuel Sportsbook, number one sportsbook in America. I'd listen. We hit it all. Responsible gaming, though. This is about responsible gaming. Check out FanDuel.com RG or the responsible gaming section in the app to learn more about staying in control of your game. It took all of me to stay in control. Yeah, the bleeding that was happening over the weekend for myself. Look, I can't do it for him. I thought I was seeing the field. The picks were there, but I can't get inside their bodies and play for them.

[B]

You know what I mean? Now when I say I don't make wrong picks. My picks are right. Except if kids or coaches or officials screw up, how am I supposed to be responsible for a kid screwing up or a coach or an official screwing up? We can't throw the ball for him. We're standing there at Texas, Ohio State. We can't throw the ball for him.

[A]

How do you stay poised and in the pocket? Josh Pate when we're talking about screwing up of preseason. Josh Pate. This is the. Maybe you might have said. Don't, don't quote me on this, but maybe this was your quote. This is the nastiest Alabama team I've ever seen. This is going to be beyond far and away the national champion this year. And then they Go and lay a goose egg to the point to where even the computers are trying to delete the film.

[B]

Are you suggesting week one wasn't nasty?

[A]

Week one was nasty.

[B]

Very nasty. Feel like I nailed that one. I got no clue. I got nothing for you. I got no clue. We were at the Ohio State game. I was driving home. So the game's on, but I'm listening to it. So I'm listening to Joe Test lay out a magnificent generational call, by the way.

[A]

Generation, Generational.

[B]

Three buttons undone on the button down with the gold chain in the booth. Unfortunately, production got in his ear and he had to button a couple of them. But Alabama came completely unbuttoned. Yeah, I had no clue that was coming. That's just a whiff on my part. Now, 11 games left to go. Mathematically, and only mathematically, they're still alive. My prediction's still alive, but I gotta go to Georgia in less than a month, so don't feel great about it right now. But crazier things have happened. Not much crazier, but crazier things have happened.

[C]

If we were able to time travel and get back a couple of weeks where we're making our preseason predictions, are you still going with Alabama?

[B]

There's nothing that I saw Saturday that made me say, oh, in retrospect, I should have noticed that. So it would be the exact same prediction. I'm dead serious.

[A]

Like, it's because you went to like, what, two scrimmages?

[B]

You said seeing them practice, know the program pretty intimately, felt like all the boxes were checked.

[C]

But he sat there, he said he was sitting with the scout, going, who's that guy? Oh, yeah, he'll be. He'll be a first rounder.

[A]

Who's that guy?

[C]

He'll be a first.

[B]

Like, you got to understand, the way.

[C]

You talked about the secondary, I was thinking to myself, like, this is an NFL, so.

[B]

So I got. You got to understand when you go, when you go to an Alabama or a Georgia or an Ohio State scrimmage or something like this, there are a bunch of scouts there, a bunch of former coaches there, a bunch of former players there. So oftentimes you'll find yourself standing on the sideline talking to half a dozen people who, even if you know nothing about ball, you know they know something about ball, right? It was consensus. It was everybody saying, this is pretty good looking team right here.

[A]

This has a chance to be a.

[B]

Really good looking team. Defense flying around, pads popping. And none of that was exhibited Saturday. So you either ask yourself, did your eyes Just thoroughly lie to you or is that a one off? But I don't think it's a one off because like some of the stuff that they showed Saturday is. It's not just misalignment, it's not just dropping a ball. It's not just. Yeah, it's not just stuff that you rectify in practice the next week. I don't think. Yeah, I don't know where I am.

[C]

They got out coached. They got out coached in every single facet. Like there was one drive, they had three different plays that looked the exact same with a motion which ended up being the jet that they took the left side of the field all the way down for like a 40 yard rushing touchdown. They set that up multiple times. Watching the safety shift from one side, rotate over the linebackers, following the pulling guard and tackle. They did that three or four times, gaining two, three yards and then busted 40 on them.

[B]

It was bad. Cause Jesse Palmer I think was doing color on the game. And I'm not watching it live, so I'm listening to it live. I've gone back and watched it later. I've put myself through that several times. But Jesse Palmer, there's almost this, this inhale and depressed exhale and he goes, guys, it's the same play. They've already run two or three times. Guys, it's the same play. I'm just putting it on the telestrator for you. But if you've seen this before, it's. Cause you just saw it like four minutes ago. They just ran the same thing again. And I was listening to myself driving down I65 yelling, what's happening? What am I missing? You can't be watching it. That's irresponsible. So yeah, I don't know what to say.

[A]

It's like I don't know the truth to everything that comes out. But there were like some tweets surfacing about players having door dash late at night, like one in the morning, sneaking girls in the hotel. One.

[C]

Yeah. One, two, three.

[A]

And if I, if I, if I take that at face value and I connect it with the effort you see on the field. The only way this gets turned around is if there is actual player leadership in the locker room. Yeah, like if there's actual guys who can stand up and say things and everybody kind of listens and they start kind of gut checking themselves. Because if not, you're, you're, you're just in this world to where you have a loaded roster, four and five star guys. And if these guys are about their business, the way that face value is and the product that they put out on film, like, it's just gonna get really bad. And all these guys are. Not all of them, but a lot of guys are just gonna transfer because they're gonna think it's not them that's doing it because their ego is so big, so they think we're just gonna go somewhere else. But that is. That was the big concern. Like, after the Alabama loss and all the things, oh, Booster sent me this. This tweet came out here, and they're trying to get to the bottom of what's the culture like with DeBoer and. And everything else. So that was my. That's kind of my, like, instinct on it all.

[C]

Yeah. It feels like things are spiraling in Tuscaloosa, and you don't have a guy like Nick Saban to kind of keep everything reined in all the time.

[A]

Right. I'm not saying DeBoer can't do that, but, you know, when Saban's there, if that tweet comes out about, you know, the middle of the night, early morning, like, there's no question that shit like that one, it's probably not true. You're thinking, oh, this is probably not true because this is a Nick Saban culture. But number two, he's going to have this nipped in the buck because, you know, you see it year in and year out for decades, that he handles business like that in house, and he handles it fast, and there's player leadership around it. It's like, when that stuff coming out with Kalyn DeBoer, it's like, I wonder what is going to come of all this, because if they don't get it turned around, he's going to be standing on the sideline having the same kind of cameos that they were showing throughout the game, where he's just kind of standing there like, what are we about to do?

[B]

I'll say one thing. One of my biggest takeaways, one of the things I admired the most about Saban is that place was a disaster sometimes of chaos behind the scenes. And you never knew it because they kept winning. And the point is, you're talking about viewing it from the outside, and it's ultra disciplined and it's ultra buttoned up, and it's ultra intense. And there's a standard they're playing to. What really happened was they understood how to keep the main thing. The main thing, because they had trouble a lot. They had off the field stuff happen. Dude, their coaching staff was in turmoil a lot of the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I used to. You get a glimpse behind the curtain and what used to fascinate me the most is I, I can't believe that this, this, this and this is going on with this program behind the scenes. And they look like what they do on Saturday. But it's cause they kept the main thing. The main thing and the one thing that I noticed that's probably different now than when it was under Saban is if you ever put the stuff on film that some of those guys put on film Saturday, you'd never have to worry or fear the opponent. You don't have to fear Nick Saban. You'd have to fear your guys in the locker room. Some of the best fights I've ever seen were Bama player versus Bama player on sidelines during games. They're in Georgia about 10 years ago now. They're up 38 to 3. They give up a touchdown run to Chubb. Chubb had this like hundred yards per game streak going and that touchdown run put him over that. And I saw Jaren Reed and Reuben Foster going at it on the sideline. I saw Jonathan Allen getting after someone as confetti was falling after they beat Clemson in the national title. Cause they had given up a garbage time touchdown. Coaches are having to separate guys. They're up 38, three. They're, they're one a national title. In the other case, the season's over and guys are about to kill each other if they don't get separated. And then you take that and put it in one monitor and you take the other day and put it in the other monitor. Look at their sideline. Look at it. Does any guy look scared of the performance that he's turning in?

[A]

Right.

[B]

I don't care about the boosters 1am do. People will be shocked at what happens behind the scenes. It's the keeping the main thing. The main thing. Main thing. Wasn't the main thing there Saturday. That's what I wonder. Can you just turn a knob? They're still ultra talented. They still I think got a good staff. But you know, whatever, whatever. Getting the main thing back on track is that knob turn. I don't know if it's as simple as, hey guys, we had a players only meeting. Now it's all going to be good. Now we're focused. Because if it really is that easy, why didn't you do it before? And if it really does rectify itself and you're a freight train out of control, I'll never forget that that week one result was real. It's in the tank somewhere. So I can't trust you because it may rear its head down the road. You got to go on the road again. You got to go to Georgia eventually. You got to go to on the road several more times. Like you're going to get put in the blender eventually. You're going to be down 100 in the first quarter again eventually. How do you respond? Only way to change is change it.

[A]

One thing that didn't get changed is your JP poll. The number one. That's true team in the country. You still. Texas is still there. I'm not going to say you still got Texas there because you, you're like you're a separation from the model. Yes. Viewers tuning in. Explain the jp, the JP poll because again, you got Texas number one generational arm and Arch Manning allegedly. Yeah, yeah. Still at the top.

[C]

Also explain that layer of separation between your JP poll and you.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, the separation is. I don't want blame.

[C]

Got you.

[B]

So that's the jp.

[C]

This is your, this is your program. This is your thing. This just generates a whole bunch of stuff.

[B]

So I partnered with a data scientist like 10 years ago. All we wanted to do was create a predictive model. Every odds maker has this. It's just that not many people have shows where they display it. So all we wanted to do is we wanted to have a predictive based model that spits out a number on a game, same as a point spread would be for FanDuel. We want our own internal number. We use that number against the market to bet. Every odds maker, every handicapper largely has one of those. So I put it out. Well, the public has. A portion of. The public has no clue how to interpret that. For example, Texas plays Ohio State the other day. Texas gets stoned by Ohio State. They outgain them, a lot of stuff like that, but they lose. All right. So if I were an AP voter, I'd clearly have Ohio State ranked above Texas this week. But in power ratings, Texas does not fall behind Ohio State for one reason. Texas would be a slight favorite on a neutral field if they played again tomorrow. I know that I confirmed it with FanDuel just like with Bama. Bama still ahead of Florida State. Bama, according to fanduel, because I had to hit him up before the show, would be an 8 1/2 point favorite against FSU on neutral field if they played again this week. Now if that number got put out, you, you, me, we could all bet Florida State that's well within our constitutional rights. That's not what the JP Poll is about. JP Poll is just about putting the information out there and then do with it what you will. And if you don't care about it or you don't like it, it's not for you, don't consume it. But there are a bunch of people who are unhappy in life out there, as you've noticed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who really love to rage out on the JP Poll. And all I want to tell that group is, it's not my fault.

[C]

It's not my fault.

[B]

Don't get mad at me. It's not my fault.

[C]

All right. Yeah, I love that. I love that.

[A]

Josh does an incredible job of weirdly staying bulletproof.

[B]

I would not rank Alabama. I would not rank Alabama this week. They'd be unranked for me. I'd have Florida State ranked top 10. Because if I were an AP voter, I would go solely on your body of work. So I would. I'd make my preseason rankings. Cause I have to for the ap. But once the season started, I just wiped the slate clean. So, like, like, why would Auburn not be ranked right now? Why would Georgia Tech not be ranked right now? So for all the folks out there in AP voting land who want to hate on the JP Poll, well, why do you still have Alabama ranked, period? Why should they be ranked, period? Conversely, why should Georgia Tech not be ranked? USF beat Boise. Boise was everyone's preseason pick to go to the playoff from the G5. Well, USF beat him handedly. So why is USF not ranked? So I don't get the AP logic. At least mine has logic behind it. Even if people disagree with it and fanduel backs me up on it, at least I've got logic behind mine.

[C]

Do you think the ACC is stronger than people think or the SEC is weaker than people think?

[B]

I think the SEC is exactly what people thought. I think Alabama's not what people thought. I mean, Auburn looked pretty good against Baylor. South Carolina beat Virginia Tech. Like Texas went and lost to maybe the number one team in the country. So you remember the other day when we were doing our season preview and I said the SEC is kind of like the Nashville skyline. There's not a big skyscraper there. It's just a bunch of pretty tall buildings. I think the SEC performed exactly like the Nashville skyline would perform. Some teams won. In fact, more teams won than lost. But there were a couple of high profile losses, Bama being the biggest one. There's no shame in Texas losing to Ohio State. I don't think that's not something that like vilifies or justifies the SEC's claim. Like to me, if you want to talk about depth of conference, that South Carolina, Virginia Tech game is really good. That LSU Clemson game is really good. Clemson is the number one team in another conference. LSU is not preseason, but they go into their building and win. South Carolina's probably viewed top eight preseason in the sec. Top six, top five according to some. Virginia Tech's probably six, seven, eight. That's a good comparative matchup. And you had SEC over that team. So anytime you get into this, it sounds like you're carrying water for the sec. It's just telling the truth. There's no logic based conversation to be had about the sec because people either love them or they hate them. And either one of those people is not probably one to trust in a fact based, logic based conversation. But the point is we're one week in, so I still got no clue what the SEC is. I just think I may know a little bit more about a couple of teams.

[A]

I have both of those people in my body, in my mind, when I think about the sec.

[B]

That's chaos. Yeah, that's chaos.

[A]

It's like, I appreciate, I respect, I love the ball that comes out of the sec. And then as a Big Ten guy, there's things you hate. You want to see fail about the sec, but you just. They're just battling at all times up here. I don't know what to do.

[C]

Yeah, tug of war. It's like, do I be unbiased? But I am biased. Like, what's the game?

[A]

Actually, they got a good product on you. I like this team.

[C]

Yeah. Because it's like a couple weeks ago you sat there on the bus and you said the SEC has more depth. And we're all looking around me, Jack and Gary look at each other like, what did he just. For the last three years. That's the cat.

[A]

That's the cat that appreciates the SEC speaking right there.

[C]

Yeah. That's like the other wolf winning for a moment.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then we look at it again. Maybe the body of the SEC is really good, but the head's not so strong.

[B]

What if you just. What if we just misidentified what the head is? What if Florida's the head, just ran it. What if Oklahoma is the head? We just don't know.

[C]

We don't think that.

[B]

What if there is a dominant team? It's just not Alabama or Texas. What if it's one of them?

[C]

What if it's. Say it for him.

[B]

What if it's cocktober is coming. Coctober is coming. Got Alabama and Oklahoma in cocktober. So the cocktober surprise will happen.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

At least if you're set.

[C]

Feeling a lot better about the Alabama game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you boys make of the generational quarterback comments and all the slander? Everything. The world was on fire during and after the Texas Ohio State game talking about Arch Manning.

[C]

Josh and I were having a conversation right before you did that electric intro that Jared wanted to jump in the middle of. Was like Olofsy came in and said Arch Manning played against a really good defense and that's why he was bad. Well, if that is the logic, then Arch Manning is a bad quarterback. But I don't, I don't. I don't agree with that at all. And I think early in that game, you watch Arch Manning when he has a lot of time, his offensive line is giving a lot of time and he chooses not to use his legs. And I think that, like, it was so apparent to me that it seemed like that was a coach thing to do before the game. Like Josh was saying, like, this is 17 game season. Don't use your legs if you don't have to.

[A]

Personally, for me, first play the game, set him up for an easy completion for dessert.

[C]

Yeah, I think if they go back and play that game, Arch starts with his legs a little bit sooner, tires at that defense east to west kind of like they did versus Michigan, and it opens up for them a little bit more. But there was no sustained drives really, except for a couple in the second half. They went for a fourth down in their first drive. They got that. They went for it again, didn't get it. So it's like there's a lot of things that could have gone Texas's way. I think Archmanning had a bad day, but doesn't mean he's like not who we think he is, which is. He's still a Manning. He's still the first overall recruit in his class. I think he's going to be all right. It's just a bit of a. I think it's a shock for everybody because I think we all sat here last week and we're like, Texas is going to be the team we all picked. Texas and Ohio State stood up and showed that their defense and Matt Patricia had no problem transitioning from NFL to college and showed a bunch of different variety of defenses that really messed with Arch head.

[B]

I'm pretty sure that I Heard a lot of people after the game screaming about how overhyped Arch Manning was and how they're tired of the Arch hype who participated in the archive. Now, I don't consume a whole lot of generic, like national college football media because I don't want it to sway my own opinion. So I was telling you I was a little bit out to left field when so many people kept saying, oh, everyone thought he was a generational quarterback, this and that. I don't doubt people called him a generational quarterback. I just think the crowd that's yelling, he's not a generational quarterback, at the crowd that labeled him a generational quarterback. That crowd's way bigger. Like the one outrage today is way bigger. I know some people hyped him up, but like, we were on this show when we were doing the preview, even you asked me, what are your expectations for Arch Manning? I said, I think he's going to be really good. I don't think he's generational. I don't think he's elite. He's not my Heisman favorite or anything like that. I thought that was fair. He still may be all those things, by the way, he may be better than I thought he was bulletproof, but he's not. I did not throw the G word out there. I did not go generational. So to me, when I watched what happened the other day, I didn't get the outcome. I thought I would. To be very clear, I thought Texas would win the game. I didn't think Texas was going to win the game because Arch was going off for 330. I thought it was going to be a complete rock fight and they'd come out on top because they weren't the team replacing both coordinators. I did think they'd have an edge at quarterback. So by that metric, I was very disappointed. I thought they had the motivation edge. Like those things didn't pan out, but I don't know, I just listened. I kept on seeing clips afterwards of all these national folks, a lot of whom don't. Not Orlovsky, but a lot of these folks I saw yelling about college football don't normally talk about college football. So I know good and well if they've talked college football the last six months, it's probably been Arch Manning. And now their big takeaway is, I'm tired of the Arch hype, which they probably contributed to.

[C]

Yes, they fueled that fire.

[B]

Yeah, I just looked at that and said, what are we. You know what? It was good to see you guys. We'll see you come playoff time.

[C]

It was good to see you. The Casuals.

[A]

What's your thought? When I feel like the domino effect, because, again, like, I'm taking whatever. Like, you see him as the favorite for the Heisman. So I'm like, oh, it seems like he's going to be a really good quarterback this year. I'm picking. I picked Lenore Sellers for the Heisman, but it's like the. The person in you seeing Arch Manning, having the interview with Peyton Manning, knowing that they keep him away from, like, he's on a bunch of commercials. But as far as, like, doing it seems like it's a kid with a good head on his shoulders and so, like, oh, wow, he's the Heisman favorite. Like, he must be the real deal. Even though the body of work, like, has yet really to be seen whatsoever. And then as you're watching the game and you're like, oh, man, yeah, he's missing some throws here. He's inaccurate. All these things. You know, it's a massive stage for week one going into Columbus, all the hype behind him, or premature, whatever this. This hype is that we're. We're speaking about. Then as the game's going on and you start seeing the. The memes and just Internet culture, seeing an opportunity again, it's not even really about the player. It's about everything else that goes on. The white, black stuff. You see Shadur Sanders being brought up in these conversations when people are trying to argue. So, you know, right there, when you're seeing that stuff, I'm kind of chuckling, and it's like, here we go. Yeah, you know what this is becoming to be about. But I see Orlofsky tweet and imagine having a generational quarterback and keeping the training wheels on him for the entire game. That tweet starts going crazy, and I feel like that's a. That's a domino effect that got some of the other figureheads talking about it, because then you have something you have. I think it was Jamil Hill. Jamil Hill. Jamel. Jamil Hill. Jamel Hill.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Jamel Hill. She's like, oh, what's it? What are the. What are the characteristics of. Of a generational quarterback? Getting that. Everybody watching knows what I'm talking about. Getting that festering going, which is so.

[C]

Funny because people love to throw generational quarterback around. But the minute it's like someone's like, well, he used it as a generational quarterback, they didn't play well. It's like, well, what is a generational quarterback?

[A]

Why are you talking. Why are you calling him a generational quarterback?

[C]

Everybody's generational until like now. All of a sudden we want to nitpick it. What's generation.

[A]

You know why they're calling a generational talent? Because he's got the complexion for the protection.

[B]

Hey guys, we're having the north sellers over here. I don't know what you're talking about.

[C]

There's people out there doing it and white guys are making a comeback. They're making a comeback. No, but that's kind of been there.

[A]

That was kind of my whole breakdown. Like, I think again, it's a, it's a, it's a coachism for forever. Yeah, you're never as bad as they say you are. You're never as good as they say you are. This is one where they're all going to watch a tape. I loved watching his presser where you. Every time you see a quarterback taking the podium, you ready to see if he's going to take accountability or how is he going to answer questions. And him saying like, it starts with me. You know, I enjoy seeing that out of a player because that is how it starts. If you are an individual player, like grading yourself, not trying to blame anything at all. It was, you know, it was loud, it was this. We had a tough game, we didn't convert. Here you saying it starts with me, I need to play better. Watching a player say that, I, I respect it. I think he's going to be just fine. I think Ohio State people didn't talk about that defense enough. It's mostly about beating down Arch Manning. I think Ohio State, their defense is the real deal. Their second level flies to the football. They got arguably the best player in college football with Caleb Downs. Matt Patricia. We said it on bustin with the boys, forgot that this dude's used to game planning for the likes of Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Burrow, preparing for Super Bowls and that that defense does a really good job of things. We're not going to let them beat this, beat us with this guy or with this scheme. Patricia did a great job. Ohio State's defense did a hell of a job. Yeah, I feel like it was just. That was a battle and it was a week one battle. Some sloppy play, missed conversions on fourth down. Like it was week one football.

[B]

Week one game.

[A]

Yeah, it was a week one football game against two juggernauts that are figuring out who they're going to be. I thought, I keep saying Justin Saenz but it's not Julian. Julian Saenz. Because every time I watch, I'd be like, oh, his name's Justin Saenz. I'm just waiting for the. Just saying after that to go. That to go global. I'm kind of getting off track here. But I thought he did a. I thought Julian saying did a really good job as well for his first start. It was a fun game to watch, low scoring. And I sit there, I'm like, I should have known this was going to be an under game.

[C]

Should have known. I feel like we. I feel like from now on, like, the plan is week one, we go under. So what I'm doing, week one, big games go under. That's it.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

No more. No more show needs to happen. I do love that you brought up Ohio State because there's been so much conversation around Texas and their downfalls as a team. But like Texas, the defense is incredible. But that offensive line, like that, that clip that you posted on Twitter of that double team moving him into the second level, Buddy had his foot planted out. Like, couldn't have better technique, hands inside and everything. And they just put the kid on skates and moved him back. Like truly football porn. Like, you get that. You go six to midnight in an absolute hurry. Watching blocking like that, which is, you know, obviously I'm wearing the colors I'm wearing, but in Ohio State's, they're kind of. They've been shot at for being not the toughest team in the world, but to see them road grading like that, it's like that. That's fucking Big Ten.

[B]

When I. I had that clip pulled up, Savannah walks behind me. She sees it, she said, because she picked Texas to win the game, she goes, that's what I'm talking about. How do you prevent that? How do you stop that from happening? I said, that's physics you're watching.

[C]

That's exactly it.

[B]

You watch physics right there.

[C]

Right? And it's like, if you're able to do that consistently, you're not going to lose a lot of games.

[B]

I felt stupid to go back to the Matt Patricia stuff. When you look back on a pick, you got a pick wrong. One of the things I just whiffed on within that game is I didn't respect Matt Patricia enough. I didn't respect immediately the impact he was going to have there.

[C]

Detroit Lions. He goes, becomes the head coach of the Detroit Lions. And he didn't have a good time there. Like, he didn't do well.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think that's when everyone was like, ah, we're done with him.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And it's like, then they got him.

[A]

Calling offense with the Patriots when he goes back to the Patriots. But yeah, yeah, same thing. It's like, I'm such an idiot.

[C]

Yeah. It's like the most overlooked thing that should have been the most obvious to.

[B]

All of us because they lost a high level coordinator in Knowles and that was a big story. Not so much who they backfilled him with, which I'm supposed to pick up on that stuff. So I, I blame myself more than this is the.

[C]

Blame the AP Polkin or the J people. Definitely not.

[B]

Forget about the model. Forget about the model. And yeah. So I'm sorry, Matt, could we take some picks?

[C]

I feel like. Do we feel. Is there anything else we need to cover as far as, hey, listen, I.

[A]

Also want to apologize. Nebraska did not cover. I got everybody, I got a lot of dms telling me they, they rode with covering. That is on me. You do have to know, if you're new to the show, you have to know that your boy gets really spiced up for some Nebraska football. Yeah, I like take, take them money lines and some parlays.

[B]

But you know what?

[A]

I want to apologize and my iPad. Game of the week, Notre Dame. Miami whipped on that one, too. I can't play for the O line out there.

[C]

I tried O line, which is kind of heartbreaking. You thought, they're going to lean on that gold helmet.

[A]

You're like, how are they going to protect CJ Carr? Get him going a little bit. They're going to lean on the old line. Whereas I'm watching the game and it's like, oh, C.J. carr's got some stuff to him. The O line, I feel like is.

[C]

Letting him down, especially through that last drive. I mean, there was like reports the sideline reporter. Somehow they're throwing up in the corner. Yeah, their light gold pants were very dark gold towards the end. You see them huffing and puffing and Miami fans having fun. I don't know if those Miami defensive ends are just generational talents.

[B]

Ruben Bane, generational.

[C]

They seem generational based on those last two plays of the game.

[A]

Because, my God, those wide receivers, they.

[C]

Had the generation like a whirling dervish. Dude, he was out there spinning around. He had no idea what he was doing.

[B]

That's not a bad player. That's not a bad player either. Ruben Bane was like a rubber band that had been pulled the whole game. And then that last drive, they said, let it go. Yeah, you just Let it go. Who does what tackle in the country does anything about that? Who's dealing with that?

[C]

Yeah, I don't know.

[B]

Y' all can pick the best one. I'm just saying. I think he's going to struggle going one on one against four in a fourth quarter in a pressure situation. That dude hasn't been healthy his whole career and he is right now. So you also mentioned when you think about O line, you think of that golden dome. May think about that this year because that. That's not a bad offense.

[C]

And Beck, like the disrespect, the emotion in his voice after the game. Cry, you could tell. Cry like those last eight months. It was not just the injury that affected him. It was all the noise. So we said it like you're leaving a place for a girlfriend. This is crazy. He's done. Two years ago, we got a Lambo. We thought you were generational two years ago. You're not generational anymore.

[B]

Hey, so now he's generational.

[C]

Now he's generational.

[B]

I mean, come on. Now he's one and up.

[A]

He's got to be there.

[C]

I think at this point it's safe to say there are more generational cornerbacks than there are not.

[B]

We've never seen in the modern era. I don't think we've ever had this many generational qb.

[C]

Do you think it's now if you're a bad quarterback, you're generational.

[B]

I think you've got a path to being generational.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you're good, it's like that's.

[B]

If you're bad, you're mid.

[C]

Generational is a new norm.

[B]

You're knocking on the door. Yeah.

[C]

Being bad, that's when you're generational.

[A]

I do think we can all agree on this is going to. This is a generational college football season because it's wide open. Yeah, I think it's going to remain that way, too.

[C]

First game. Yeah.

[A]

Generational quarterback Pavia. Diego Pavia goes out to Virginia Tech. Vandy, we get all of our odds. We get all of our data. We get all of our stuff from the FanDuel sportsbook. Vandy is the underdog in this game. Virginia tech favored by minus one and a half. The over under on this game, 47 and a half. Boys, what do we like here?

[B]

I think Virginia Tech is in what I like to call wounded animal mode, pure desperation mode. After that week one game, I think they probably played a little scrappier to use a memo ism, than people Expected them to against South Carolina. Like people look back at that South Carolina game, week one. South Carolina ended up covering. Needed the special team score to do it. They had to beat the ball their way to the win. And I think most people look at it and say, oh boy, man, I think South Carolina just struggled a little more than I thought they would. Maybe Virginia Tech has something to do with that. So now they come back home, that entire coaching staff knows they're coaching for their jobs and they know what happened last year with this game. And so they.

[A]

This is like a revenge game. I was seeing a couple quotes from the players like this one circled for the got.

[B]

Well, Vandy's got a few of those this year that they're going to participate in very unfamiliar territory.

[A]

Pavia out there talking that. But he, he looked good in that week one.

[B]

He did. He did. I actually think.

[C]

Yeah, but who, who are they playing like? He was routes on there, out there. He still. Still handled business in the right place. He got himself. He was being shifty. He did his thing. He did Diego Pavia the best way Diego Pavia does. Diego Pavia being the generational talent. Talent, yes. But it was still like there's a lot of schools we're going to talk about today that played the, you know, school of the deaf and the blind and Vanderbilt is not exempt from that.

[B]

I need a generational performance from Kyron Drones and I'm not going to get it, but I don't actually need that. I need enough from him. I think Virginia Tech's going to ugly out a win here. I actually think they're going to win. They are. I'm going to lay the one and a half. I'm going to take Virginia Tech to win and cover revenge spot. A couple of them this year for Vandy. The first one they fall in.

[C]

I like.

[A]

The second one I like a couple things.

[B]

We'll get to it.

[C]

Because it's one or the other. I feel like you can't lose both.

[B]

That's correct. That's correct.

[C]

Can't lose both.

[B]

Well, the generational quarterback wouldn't. Would never, never.

[A]

I like two things in this game. I like the over more than I do picking the game over 47 and a half. And to me the X factor is a gentleman. We know very well and it's Cade McConnell. Cade McConnell is the X factor in this game. And I'll be damned if they're getting their first test of the season. And I'm not backing the boy. Probably you too, friend of the show. But Cade McConnell, he was an intern here. Boy of the summer, boy of the show, right? And generational offensive line talent right there. Caden McConnell, he's the X factor in this game. And I'm taking Vandy like the over more than I do picking the game. But if I'm picking the game, I'm going Vandy Moneyline.

[C]

I love how you touch on the over. I like the over as well. And I will also be going knowing Vandy. Something about Diego Pavia.

[A]

Something about Cade McConnell.

[C]

Something about Cade McConnell like K. So was it Tuesday? It might have been two. Yeah, yeah, it was yesterday. Today's Wednesday. Cade text me, he's like, what is your weekly routine when you're in the football season? We get on the phone, we talk about the entire routine. He's like, I am not missing a step this year. And I was like, hey, whatever you do, make sure you do it consistently. Don't put too much on your plate. This is a team that's re energized. This is a team that packed out a stadium with their own fans in week one. Like people actually screaming where the other team actually had to go into a silent cadence. They got something going on here in Nashville, Tennessee. And I'm not going to be the guy to jump off the bandwagon. When I jumped on the bandwagon. When they played Virginia Tech last year in week one and they ended up going to overtime. Big dub in the, in the bet for that one. Yep, I'll be going Vandy. I love Diego, I love Cade Moore. I'm taking them.

[A]

And for everybody hearing the applause that happened when I said Cade McConnell, that's how good of an intern and how close he got with the boys during his two months. That's how you know this is a Cade McConnell game. You talk to him, they're winning. The Natty. Yeah, we pumped the brakes with him on that type of stuff.

[C]

We were literally. I looked at him, I go, hey, listen, you're in it. I'm gonna tell you right now, you're not gonna win the Natty with disrespect. But like, you just gotta be able to zoom out a little bit.

[A]

But with the strong performance of week one, whether it was against an elementary school team, it doesn't matter. The fact that they put the pedal to the metal, I'm gonna ride with them in their first big test at Virginia Tech.

[C]

Another reason why I like Vanderb. Vanderbilt has had one extra day of rest compared to Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech wasn't a nail biter. They got beat up a little bit by South Carolina. And the opposite in the offensive line, defensive line, they have less time, I just think. And also Vandy played, you know, one and a half quarters. Like those boys are fresh. And they already seem like they're in midseason form. Against elementary mid season four mid season.

[B]

Virginia Tech starts off 02 generational Vanderbilt.

[C]

You think he's getting the hook?

[B]

I. They do. The fan or the.

[C]

The.

[B]

The fan base does. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

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[A]

No, go ahead. Yeah.

[C]

Kansas at Missouri. Kansas is underdogs by six and a half points. What else? What's the game over 50 and a half points.

[A]

I need you to juice that game better.

[C]

That crazy. Someone opened the door after we put the little thing. The sign. You put up a sign that said do not come in. Filming in progress. You want me to do that? Give him a little better. That's my fault. I got distracted because a light shined in my face. Just now, I had a light shine in my face. The battle of the border. The first time these two teams have met Kansas is at Missouri. Missouri.

[A]

First two teams they've met since 2011.

[C]

Since 2011. Kansas at Missouri. Missouri is 9 and 1 at home. In their last 10 games, Missouri is favored by 6 1/2 points. The total in that game is 50 1/2. Will Compton, we'll start with you. And also, thank you for letting me do some.

[A]

Yeah, great work. Because the way you did that, I'm like, this is a. This is a Midwestern battle right here.

[C]

This is a Midwest.

[A]

These teams haven't got to play. You said it. Since 2011, buddy.

[B]

The rivalry dates back to slavery.

[C]

I was gonna. I was gonna ask. I read that. It's like. I literally read that. This pretty big state. It's the oldest college football rival. I'm thinking to myself, so you're telling me the north and the south had a different. This is our North.

[B]

South.

[C]

Hey, listen, we gotta figure out this football game real quick. He's the crazy.

[A]

Both have decent teams. The fan bases, they're ready to go. Yeah. So I did. You're like, you know, Kansas are six and a half point underdogs. So like, hey, no, you are right. You are right.

[C]

Ups pissed me off a little bit. I got distracted. My NDD kicked off in. Go ahead comp.

[A]

I love the over in this game. Yeah, love the over at fifty and a half. I also like, I love Jalen Daniel. I think he's a helpful guy. He's a generational quarterback. Jalen Daniel.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And I just, at the end of the day I think Mizzou is deeper. I think they're faster. I love what drink has going on there. He has a good culture there. This is a team that's been a double digit win team the last two years. And if you look on the can side, another reason I like the over, there's going to be points in this game. Jalen Daniel, unless he gets injured, you're not going to beeble. You can only hope to contain them. But Kansas has some second level injuries going on at the linebacker spot. I see that Mizzou exposing them a little bit more. But again I just think that the roster overall is deeper, faster than what Kansas has played thus far. It's going to be Kansas's first big real test. Same with Mizzou as well. But I like, I like Mizzou in this game. Minus six and a half. But I love, I like Mizzou minus six and a half. But I love the over.

[C]

Can we, can I ask you a question? A lot of over talk in the first two picks of this game.

[B]

Yeah. Where's it coming from?

[C]

Are you essentially being like, hey, make sure you put that in my record this week or we're just doing pickups for the season or would you like the over to be a part of your record?

[A]

Oh, I didn't even think about that. I was just. When I'm looking at the games, I'm like, gosh, how do I figure out, how do I find the way and find picks that I love during these. Because the six and a half points here at Mizzou, it's a little scary. Like Kansas could pull this one off. They could definitely cover because you're again, you got six and a half there. So. And then I see the 50 and a half, I'm like, these offenses are going to score now. You get a week under your belt, Kansas a couple weeks under their belt, we're going to have some points. So that's why I love the over. But you're asking me record wise. Yeah, I got a total I'm going.

[B]

To fire on later and I 100% want it on my record.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So I think we should count. I think you Just have to make a pick on the game.

[C]

Okay, make a pick in the game. But if you feel as strongly as you do, we could be like, hey.

[B]

I want my official pick to be the total on this game.

[A]

So you listen to me. My total should be the pick on this.

[B]

If that's what you're most confident in.

[A]

That's what I'm most confident in. Over 50 and a half.

[B]

I just want to know, on a side note, after everything went under last week, where's the confidence coming from?

[A]

It's week one football. The assholes, everybody in the film room. There's an urgency that always comes out of week one to where, hey, I told you, we're not shit. We got to get the offense going here. You put us in the bad spot on special teams defense. This is why we need you to do X, Y and Z. Johnson, number zero, the linebacker from South Carolina. This is why you fall down in the end zone when you pick the ball off. You're not Ed Reed, you're not taking it 100 back to the house. You pinned us on the one or two yard line. We got a safety that kept Virginia Tech in the game. It's stuff like that, the urgency of coaching that happens going from week one to week two to where everybody's dialed in, focused and they're just, they're more locked in on what the game plan is going to be and how to execute. And I feel like players get more hyper aware of situational football than just, you know, going out there and trying to execute on week one because everybody, you're fired up, your jitters, your blood, your butterflies, the little fear in your mind, I got to get the first head out of the way. Am I who I am I who I think I am? All that stuff going through your mind now, you hone it in a little bit more, you're a little bit more aware of the game schematically. That's why I like points in week two.

[C]

Also, coaches, they all live in this kind of same world, but only the paranoid survive. So when you're 10, 15 days away from your first game, you start implementing, hey, we're going to start doing. These are a couple of runs we like against this team. This is what we kind of like if we're looking to this big game we have in week two. So in a lot of ways, you're over practicing, you're over watching film, you're over being nitpicky on details of how running run game should go. Motion shifts all these different things to where you get to the game and a lot of times, which you said, buttholes get a little tight. So now you're having that conversation be like, yeah, we ain't shit, boys. We got to let it loosen. Now you have a short window to go prepare for these bigger games. That's when you see the athletes start to become athletes and not think so much.

[A]

And coaching wise, too, to your point, you're throwing a lot of different maybe concepts at the wall for week one. And then you're figuring out what you're good at figuring out.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

What you're asking for your players and what they do well. So I feel like that stuff starts to get tightened up.

[C]

That leads me into why I like Missouri. Because you have Bo Pry. Bula.

[B]

Prabula.

[C]

Prabula and Sam Horn. They're kind of going back and forth and the whole, like, you know, the old college football verbiage is if you have two quarterbacks, you have zero quarterbacks. Yeah. If it's very unfortunate what happened to Sam Horn, him having the lower leg injury. You don't like that at all. From a. If I'm like taking all emotion out of it, I'm looking at Beau Prabula, seeing kind of what he did at Penn State before he transferred. They used him in the same way that they used Will Levis, like, kind of like that running quarterback. You can move around. He was situational. But they're in this battle back and forth. So you're essentially implementing multiple game plans for Sam Horn, who has this certain set of skill sets, and then Bo Pebula, who has a different set of skill sets. Now you're going into this Kansas game be like, hey, we know this is our quarterback. We know this is his strengths. We know this is weaknesses. Not to mention, you have a defense coming back that has nine guys coming back. And you also brought Damon Wilson over from, I believe it was Georgia. Right. He had two sacks in their opener. Missouri has always been like a sneaky, like, good team. Like I said it in the opening, like, they're 9 and 1 in their last 10 at home. Like, their record at home is much better than their record is away. I like Missouri a lot in this game. I love the over as well, because I think that Jaylen Brown kid is going to be. Is going to be a stud. The big knock on him was like, you know, accuracy issues, but also injury issues. Well, he's healthy and he's got a couple transfers from Alabama and other places that he's going to put points on the board. But I like Missouri to pull this one out and cover Jaylen Brown.

[A]

Generational quarterback.

[C]

I think it's without question.

[A]

Agreed.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Jalen Daniels.

[B]

Yeah. I'm gonna get his last name right, but I'm gonna say he's probably generational.

[A]

He is probably either way, generational. But whatever.

[C]

I say his name wrong. Yeah.

[A]

It's Jalen Daniels.

[B]

What I say Brown, first name's fine. It's right.

[C]

Yeah. But you guys get what I'm saying. You got a Kansas quarterback, right? Kansas quarterback.

[A]

Yeah. He could sling it. He gets generational.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I thought you were trying to get me a dick joke. Honestly. He's coming out for blood.

[B]

Brown. Brown, Brown.

[C]

That didn't play. I'm sitting there looking over at club like. Is he trying to.

[B]

Jaylen is nuts.

[C]

Is he trying to.

[A]

Jalen Brown.

[C]

I will try to get you in a dig, Joe, before the show's over.

[B]

By the way, I thought I was.

[C]

You're not exempt anymore.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I fumbled. I fumbled. I fumbled the. I don't even know what I was going to say. I loved Kansas in this game. They were my dark horse in the Big 12.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is why I dive on these games a little bit because the more I dove, the more I realized. I think Missouri is going to tilt this game. Hate the linebacker situation with Kansas banged up. Don't love the green nature of their offensive line going into this environment. Really fast defense. Missouri has too athletic, long fast. I think quarterback run's going to be huge for both sides, actually. I think Prabula, I think he had 65 on the ground last week, but it was in central Arkansas. I think he will probably end up grabbing people's attention who tune in to watch Jalen Daniels run the ball and they'll say, wow, that Prabula kid can run the ball a little bit, too. I actually think Missouri's going to win and cover. I do like the over, but my pick is going to be Missouri minus the points.

[A]

Love that.

[C]

So we're all in Missouri.

[A]

We're all on M, I, Z, Z.

[C]

O, U. I might have to change. Yeah, don't love it. Don't have to change, dude. That's how you separate from the pack. No, not this game. Not. Not this game.

[A]

Mine's the over. His is the owner. I like Mizzou, but I love, love the over.

[C]

So you're taking. Here's what I don't. Here's where I want to take a step back on the over talk and the pick em talk. The Records are gonna get all fucked up. Like, what if we have like a pick em record and an over under record?

[A]

I think you got the way you guys do it is if you love like. Like Will saying, I love the over.

[B]

That's his pick.

[A]

They're like, but I like Mizzou because you're still picking these games. They're all sitting around minus 110, minus 120 odds and we're picking these games. So, like, Will loves the over. That's his pick for the Mizzou game. Like Willie B. Personally, I'm still going to bet Mizzou -6, Willie B. But I don't. That's what my dad called me growing up. Willie B.

[C]

But you can't just start throwing Willie B.

[B]

Will Brown for seven years, cousin of Jalen Brown.

[C]

I'm like, my man forgot his last name. That he's. He's a blood now. Like, he can't say serious.

[A]

There's apparently a gorilla at a zoo that was named Willie B. And my dad just.

[B]

Yeah, the Atlanta Zoo. Yeah, yeah, I knew him well. I met him. Well, I went to see him one day.

[A]

Went to the zoo to see him.

[C]

I met him. He's in atlant. You had a meet and greet with Billy B.

[B]

And then they had a baby and they handed out bumper stickers that said Willie B. A boy or a girl? I had that on my bike. I know about Willie B. I know about Willie B. Has nothing to do with the show. But I know about Willie B.

[C]

Two things. One, good for that monkey and two, good for Will's brain. Because I was worried about you for a second, dude.

[A]

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[C]

Honestly, I'm going to sit back. I didn't do at work for this. You guys handle it.

[A]

I like DJ Lagway in the Florida Gators. 17 and a half seems to be like a lot of points. And UCF whooped that ass on Boise State.

[C]

Did you watch the game?

[A]

Which one?

[C]

UCF versus Boise State.

[A]

I watched clips of the first half.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. The game. The. The score does not reflect the game. It was 10. It was 10 to 7 before that fake punt happened. And buddy, let me tell you. Boise State's defensive line was swallowing USF's office. I'm talking Bonnie Blue swallowing them up. They.

[A]

So we like Florida.

[C]

We love Florida. I'm talking about like he had no chance to breathe now this cat, Brian Brown. Am I saying that. What?

[B]

Barry, Good try. Yeah, no, that's actually.

[C]

No, it would have been good. Bury this dick away. Dude, you trying to get me.

[A]

Hey, kid, show buddy.

[C]

You're right. I'm on edge. I started talking about Bonnie Blue and the whole thing. Like, listen, USF's offensive offensive line was getting absolutely destroyed that entire game. The quarterback for usf, I will not say his name because I'm worried about getting got right.

[B]

Careful.

[C]

That kid is a. Like, he not only runs hard, he's like a heat seeking missile when it comes to contact. He was looking for Boise State secondary. Guys wanted to put them in the ground before he rushed for a billion more yards. I love his heart. I love what he is for college football. But DJ Lagway and the Florida Gators are going to stomp that ass in the swamp. That's what's happening. 17 and a half.

[A]

Can you sell me better than that?

[B]

His name's Byron Brown.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So I said no. I just wanted to go. I wanted to swerve it just a little bit because I thought if we just swerved the pronunciation a little bit. That was my end. Yeah. USF is going to cover here somehow, by the way.

[C]

USF is going to cover.

[B]

They're going to cover here somehow. Yeah, actually. So what you're saying is true. Like that game's not reflective last week of how it went with Boise. But I also. How do I know that? I just saw USF'S peak performance in week one, too. Maybe they've got room for improvement. Florida's got some big ones on deck. They got a trip to LSU and a trip to Miami coming up, and everyone knows it and everyone's gearing up for it. This is a game you get out of healthy. And I'm not saying that's what their mentality is. I'm saying that's kind of how the game ends up playing out. To me, it's about a half a point too many. 37 to 20, something like that. Yeah, I'm good. Comfortable. Florida win. I think USF comes in under the number, though. I'm taking them to cover.

[C]

Couldn't disagree more. Jake Slaughter. That offensive line. Jake Slaughter is a center for the Florida Gators. There's rumors swirling around the Florida Gators. Joe Moore Award rumors. D.J. lagway is going to sit back there. USF's defensive line, I don't know if it was the camera angle, if they had them boys on point five or what, but they look like a bunch of string beans out there. They looked like they were not there to play D1 football. They seem like linebackers and safeties. They're smaller. They're going to get owned in the trenches. DJs going to sit back there, take a nap, have a cup of tea, wake up and throw for 250 yards. No problem. Three touchdowns.

[B]

JP Poll, top 10 team, Florida.

[C]

JP Poll.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Gotta have it. And I. I don't disagree.

[A]

JP Poll, number one team in the country, Texas.

[C]

That's true. I don't think.

[B]

Should be good this week, too.

[C]

Should be.

[A]

Okay, listen, if I was voting, Bama would be off my top 25.

[B]

Also not on me.

[C]

One of your points being Florida has like a bunch of big games in their schedule. It was the biggest thing revolving around Florida was, yeah, they're a good football team. This year, however, their schedule is so strong, we can't see them kind of making out of it alive. That schedule, when you talked about the strength of it, didn't include usf. After what USF did to Boise State, antennas are going up, down. And was it Gainesville?

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Where they play down in Gainesville, Florida, where they're like, hey, listen, I know we got this big schedule coming up with lsu, all these guys, but this team just beat the brakes off of Boise State.

[B]

I can see it. I could pick that up.

[A]

I'll go. I'll go. Usf.

[B]

Wow. Wow.

[C]

To be honest with you, if I was sitting in your seat, I would go with Commissioner Himself also, you need.

[B]

To know, I don't feel all that confident.

[A]

I like. I, you know, I, I sense that. I love his confidence. I, I listen, it can go either way here.

[B]

It could just take a. USF could cover just.

[C]

Florida could cover the pussification of America will start taking the totals in every game. I like them both. They're both great. Please let us come during our spring tour when we come see you guys. I'll take the under the.

[A]

The one point I liked was again at LSU next week and, and at.

[B]

Miami back to back roads.

[A]

This could be. You know, usually trap games come later in the year, but this could be like an overlooking. Coach is going to try to keep the assholes tight. But at the end of the day, when you're. You got a roster like that, like.

[B]

Yeah, here's how I think of it.

[A]

I'm going to go UCF to cover.

[B]

I think about Florida. I think about Florida. Everything you said is right. Florida's up like 31 to three games in hand midway through third quarter. It's just the kind of backdoor thing. USF is not going to stop playing because they need to earn style points because they could be the G5 team whose resume is being looked at. And so getting in just, just under that 17 number. It's not the kind of thing where I'm thinking, oh, it's shot for shot and then Florida pulls away late. It's the kind of thing where Florida pulls away early and then Lagway's not in the game anymore and they're trying to rest up.

[C]

That's a. It's a good point. Yeah, it's the, the backdoor cover is.

[B]

Is highly likely in a game like this because of what you have on deck. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. You want to get your starters out as fast as possible if it goes the way you're saying it's going to go. Still give me the Gators.

[A]

Gators. Gators Battle for the state. Iowa at Iowa State. Iowa state favored by 2 1/2 in this game. The over under on this game is 411 1/2 points. That seems like a carrot.

[B]

Do you take the over? Never take the over.

[C]

You never take the over. You never take the over. Dead taxes and Phil Parker's defense, that's fucking always a guarantee that Iowa's defense is going to be good. I looked at this game after watching Rocco backed against Kansas State, and I was like, oh, I really like Rocco Beck. But then you see Kansas State and you're like. And maybe like, I don't know, I don't know a whole lot about Iowa State, but I know a lot about Iowa. I know they got a bunch of corn fed boys out there. They're going to play sound defense. They're going to be hogs in the middle. They got two guys returning, Logan Jones and Jenny Dunker, who are all big ten guys. Initially I look at, I'm like, dude, this is, this has got Iowa all the way. I get on the old computer there, dial up Internet. They're talking about this Mark Gronowski kid that they're really excited about. Who Generational talent, Generational talent just transferred one, two national championships. And I'm like, oh my God, is Iowa gonna have a passing game? That's unbelievable. Then they play Albany or whoever they play.

[B]

Read it, read it.

[C]

It's 8 for 15, 44 yards and a touchdown. Which tells me this. You could take John Mateer in an Iowa uniform. He's gonna have 44 yards.

[B]

That is how I, someone said I hoped that Mark Gronowski would happen to Iowa. Instead Iowa has happened to Mark.

[C]

No doubt. And you see him, he does his postgame press conference and it's like, yeah, I got to be better Happy we got the win. It's like Iowa, Iowa, Iowa.

[B]

They ran for three years.

[C]

Everything he's saying is like, Kirk France is never going to allow you to be like one of those quarterbacks.

[A]

But it is funny bro, because the Internet almost broke when he threw this five yard out of practice. And they're like, oh, I always got a quarterback this year.

[C]

We're going like two years ago with a 310 pound quarterback being like he's big as but he can't throw it you ever.

[B]

And Happy go more when they're trying to get him under control. And he winds up, he's about to throw the putter and then he looks over and the Virginia lady goes, yeah, yeah. And then he reigns it in. That's what throwing a pass is like in Iowa's offense.

[C]

No doubt. Hey, you better rock.

[A]

He's about to get a 20 plus.

[C]

Yarder because he's rocking the 11. He kind of gives you Carson Wentz vibes like 20 pounds heavier. He puts his head down like he's a hard nosed cat. He's never going to come out of the game even if his legs both sticking out of his leg.

[A]

No, no, don't make his play. Take a sack. We're gonna punish, we're gonna win on defense.

[C]

We gotta have it.

[B]

53 rushes, 310 yards and three touchdowns.

[C]

Bro.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, they're a little tricky, dude. I mean, yeah, it's gonna be. I got Iowa State. I think Rocco back, dude. He's played, you know, two games, one overseas against Kansas State. I think it's like his poise in the pocket, his. On timing throws, where he's putting the ball, like they're running the ball well with Boo Sama. Like, they put him in a wildcat. Every once in a while when they get in that red zone and it's like they have a team that's like, oh, this might be your Bay 12 champion. They got a tight end. And I hate telling you this stat. I hate this. Not even really a stat. Benjamin baer, he's a 6 7. He's a freshman All American. He was committed to Nebraska. He had an injury last year. This is his third year. When they asked him why he flipped his commitment, his answer was, it's because I don't believe in the coaching staff that's coming into Nebraska.

[A]

That was. And right now, as far as I know, he's been proven wrong. Huskers are undefeated.

[C]

That's not a real statute. I made that whole entire thing.

[A]

He was commissioned number 44.

[C]

I already said it's not real.

[A]

I was about to slander this kid.

[C]

Just saying that's not real stuff.

[B]

That's the kind of.

[C]

He was committed to Nebraska. He did flip to Iowa. But also, Iowa State's got a kicker who just bombed their six to three yarder. Dude, give me Iowa State. Covering. Covering this.

[A]

That's so funny. The stuff that was going through my.

[C]

Head where the parents. I can get Will Compton to kind of lose his cool every single show. We're gonna have a good. We're gonna have a good 20 weeks.

[A]

I was already face to face with its defender from Cincinnati. If you go check out the vlog we just dropped, I'm like, pregame, face to face db talking about, hey, it's gonna be a long day. He's, like, talking to me. Oh, yeah.

[C]

We were talking to the Cincinnati players, and then one of us at one point step back and be like, we're in our mid-30s. And they kind of go back like, hey, I'm really sorry about that, son. I was kind of around. We're driving a good time. One guy said, it's gonna be a long day. He looked at me, he's been beat my ass. And I thought to myself, he probably could. This dude was tall as shit. Was it 23 or something like that?

[A]

Yeah, it's big boy.

[C]

Big boy.

[A]

Big boy. I like Iowa. Iowa. Oh, I like Iowa in this game.

[C]

Really.

[A]

I just like a gritty. I like a gritty win, mud truck on fresh clay type of run game. Punt the ball. Well, defense wins your game. In their last 10, I was 7 and 3. In their last five at home, Iowa State is 05 against Iowa.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

This is a, this is a factual stat. Now. I like Iowa again for me, Iowa State, they win this game. They're onto something with this staff.

[C]

If they start a 3, 0, they got a shot.

[A]

And stick with me here.

[C]

But look at me. That's so mine. Every Comptonism is stick with me here or listen after.

[B]

This is a factual stat. It's not one of those other ones.

[A]

A factual stat.

[C]

You gotta find a submit.

[A]

When I said they're onto something, all I thought of was Bill Compton. Just tell me something random. They're onto something. I'm thinking, what does that even mean?

[B]

That's Willie Brown stuff, man.

[A]

That was Will Compton Jr.

[C]

There. That was the most. Hey, you got Iowa. I got it.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Anything else?

[B]

I do like Iowa.

[C]

I like.

[B]

I gotta stop, man. I gotta stop.

[C]

Oh my God. Oh.

[A]

But what I meant was like, gotta hear it. Flying over to where they play at. Ireland.

[B]

Yeah, Handling business.

[A]

You see Kansas State have a hangover last week like after coming back from Iowa and you know how it is, traveling overseas and playing games after that. We usually get a bye week in the NFL after playing overseas.

[C]

Not anymore.

[A]

But handling business the way Iowa State did last week, I'm like, are they going to have like a hangoverish game like coming back from being across the pond and if they don't, they beat Iowa and they control the border. Because I was going to be a tough team this year. There'd probably be like a 4, 4, 3 loss team like they always are. But they win that game. I'm just telling you, they're on a recipe over there with the Iowa. I got Iowa. I like Iowa in this game. Old fashioned.

[C]

What was the total points in that game?

[A]

41 and a half.

[B]

It's low.

[C]

I kind of like the over because of Rocco.

[A]

So drop us another stat with the, with the 21.

[B]

Your number. Iowa 33 and one when they scored 21 since 2020. So do they get to 21? They're onto something if they do.

[A]

No, they're on to something.

[B]

They're on to something if they do something.

[A]

Gronowski, he gets 21 on the board there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Passing yards or points?

[C]

He might not get 21 passing yards. My brain is working one step.

[B]

So in that Ireland game, in that Ireland game, Kansas State hit two explosive past tds. So if they can do that, it's Iowa's game. I don't know that they can do that. So I'm going to lean Iowa State. That home curse against this team's been real, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like last time I was. I've only been to this game once. It was at Iowa State. Huge hype game. Ashton Kutcher's there. It's a really big deal. And they turned it over like four times that day. I was. Got this habit in this game of just waiting to have the game handed to him. And so, like, that's where I got to trust Rocco Beck. But I do trust him in this game, so I'm gonna take him to win. Close generational talent. Yes.

[C]

Let's go. I like that.

[A]

Oh, God. That one hurt.

[C]

Holy shit, dude.

[A]

This is the main event of the evening.

[C]

This is the main event of the evening. We got the true classic game of the week. Ever said he's got game, but only one fit is just right. And this is the true classic game of the week. I am wearing the true classic pants right now. 36. 36. If you're wondering. They're a little scooched up around my crotch right now, but usually you're not even seeing a little ankle. It's very nice. They fit perfectly. Hey, we end up this episode to bring you true classic. Talk about the pima shirts. I'm wearing that bad boy right now. It's got a little curve on the side. Grabs the arms, grabs the shoulders. See this chest right here? I don't got a big chest, but with this shirt on, you might. I might be able to distract you a little bit. You can find true classic at Amazon and Costco, Sam's club and Target nationwide or [e-mail] Bussin look good, feel good, play good. Let's get back to this episode. The game this week. Number 15, Michigan in Norman, Oklahoma. Bryce Underwood takes on John Mateer. Michigan is dogs at five and a half points. Total points tonight. There's no way. The total points in this game is 45 and a half, buddy.

[A]

It's 45 and a half and I love it.

[C]

I bet you do. Everybody and their mother has sat there and told me about Norman, Oklahoma. We got in March. People in Oklahoma sat and said, oh, we're going to suck. They're not good. It's going to be a whole Year, John Matier, we got it, but who knows? Something happened. There's a brewing all of a sudden where we get two weeks away from the season, all of a sudden Oklahoma is like the greatest thing since sliced bread. John Matier is the greatest quarterback. He's a. He's a generational. He's a generational quarterbacks. Generational quarterback. That's what they're saying about John Mattier. And go back and look at him at Washington State. This guy's a fucking dog. He puts up numbers every single. I went back and looked at John Mattier. I went back and looked at him. 20, 22, red shirt, wasn't good enough to get on the field. 23, sat behind Cam Ward.

[A]

Pick this kid apart.

[C]

Yeah. 20, 24. They played one ranked game. They played one ranked game, that was September 28th, that was against Boise State. Yet he had his numbers. He passed for over 300 yards in that game. They lost, but also Boise State was the third worst in pass defense in the Mountain West. Then they have to go, oh, no. On the road against, you know, the freight train of Fresno State. They got that dub. 25, 17. That must have been a real barn burner for your boy Matier. Hawaii at Washington state, my God, 42 to 10. They really cranked it up on them. Then Utah State, where they won 49, 29. And then who did they lose to? The same team that Michigan just beat the brakes off of last week, New Mexico, who went 5 and 7 last year. People want to talk about Bryce Underwood. Yeah, he just turned 18 about 14 days ago. And how this is the biggest game of his life, and it is because he's a freshman. But this is also John Matiere's biggest game of his entire life. The pressure is on Oklahoma.

[A]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you, Venable.

[C]

He's got a hell of a defense on him. But if they don't win this game in Norman, they're in hell. They're calling for him. They're getting. They're getting the shackles and chains out. They're sending his ass out of Norman. If they lose this game, the pressure is on. Oklahoma. Oklahoma could not run the ball against an FSC. FSC school. Illinois State, they had 100 yards rushing. Their freshman quarterback, freshman running back, rushed for 44 yards. Mission's got a run game, they've got a defense. What are the two things you pack when you go away? You pack a run game and you pack a defense. I like my Wolverines money line. Make sure that's in my record too. Money.

[A]

First of all, just to recap, where did Mattier play out? Washington State. Yeah, you recap the Washington State season. Talk about Oklahoma Sooners. Like this is a different roster. They got cats.

[C]

Yeah. You want to talk about Oklahoma Sooners, their offensive line, they were over three on third and fourth down with three yards or less.

[B]

Three starters out.

[C]

Three starters out. They don't like the lean on guys.

[A]

Their.

[C]

Their defense is great in the middle. They have a good. A great D tackle. But. But when you talk about trenches, best on best. You taking the Maize and Blue because they're not. You think they're going to. They have. Michigan has eight guys and I'm not talking about a front seven plus guy. They have eight guys on the defensive line that they love, that they love to rotate out that they all have a lot of talent that can go and stay fresh in a game in Norman, Oklahoma and put the pressure on this offensive line. John Matier is going to get his, no doubt about it. He's going to have a couple of great passes. He's going to run the ball really well. But so when it comes down to the moral of it all, Michigan does an amazing job of exploiting your weaknesses and when the pressure is on them. They have never been a team to fold. They were underdogs by 20 points against Ohio State when they couldn't throw the ball. They were hated and torn apart about cheating and then they had to go play Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State, Alabama and then Washington win the national championship. It is in the blood of the University of Michigan. Like them or hate them. When it's pressure and their backs against the wall, they swing no matter what. That's what I like about Michigan over Oklahoma.

[A]

Let me know when I can get a minute.

[C]

I mean I got. Ok. I mean you could just say who you got.

[A]

I love the over in this game. I was going to say you're right. You talk about packing a run game in defense outside of explosive runs for Michigan. They had a couple or a few. They're averaging 3.3 yards per kilogram. Yes. Averaging 3.3 yards per carry against New Mexico. Who is the 130th ranked defense last year out of 132 teams in college football? I agree. This is the biggest game for both teams. This is hard for me to pick with the line being a five, five and a half. I'm not riding against you. So if I love anything in this game, I'm going to say over because 45 and a half for me, that one feels like Vandu's gifting us.

[B]

Sell them.

[A]

That's what it feels like to me. John Mattier, Bryce Underwood. I love how Michigan went into the game last week and had an identity and a game plan of what they wanted to do with him. As far as moving the pocket, easier throws, they didn't run him at all. And let the O line eat like again, figure out what you're going to be going into. Norman, they were exactly who they wanted to be that game. Bryce Underwood, he is a freak. He jumps out on tape. So does.

[C]

What could he possibly be?

[A]

He's a generational talent.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

He's a generational talent. John Mateer, generational talent. Both great quarterbacks. I'm excited to watch this game. I'm excited to see Bryce Underwood at Norman against an Oklahoma team that seems to be getting a lot of love from the national media. They do have a really good football team. I love the over in this game. So I am going the over.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Michigan's got this DNA that travels. Fact check, true. Venables, huge pressure cooker game. Fact check, Also true. Two potentially generational quarterbacks with the way we define the word fact check, true.

[C]

Okay?

[B]

So I think because both of them are put in a situation, both quarterbacks put in a situation here they've never been in before. Mattiers never faced this level of competition or the spot. Underwood just started playing college football five minutes ago, so neither one of them had been in this position. High leverage situation. I think it's right for quarterback mistakes to decide a game. And I cannot believe this number is only 45 and a half. I think it should be upper 40s. And so I think short fields are going to be more plentiful than are expected in a normal football game. I. I'm going to slightly lean Oklahoma. I think the number's right, so I got really no feel on the spread. I love the over.

[A]

What's the. What's your model?

[B]

Half for the right at five. Oklahoma minus five. Oklahoma winning by five point. Yeah. So I got no feel on that. But you like. You may very well be right. I've watched Michigan do that too many times, so I'm not betting against them. I just think someone's, someone's finding a way to 28, 31, something like that, to win this game. So Deion Burks, that wide receiver for Oklahoma, can't wait to watch him. Could be a difference maker in the game. And I mean, Oklahoma missed three offensive linemen last week. I don't know that they get them all back. They didn't start the cow running back transfer last week. There's a lot of speculation about whether he'll play this week. What's his workload? Give me the over. Give me Oklahoma slightly. Give me the over.

[C]

We have a guy like that too. Like Burke. His name is Samaj Morgan. Number zero.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

He's a jet sweep guy. A lot of punt return, kick return guy. Chip Lindsay comes in. He's now raving. This kid can actually run routes. He understands concepts. He's tough as nails. He's fast as. We got one too. Yep, we got one too.

[B]

Hope he scores.

[C]

Cowards, both of you.

[A]

For what reason?

[C]

I want to pick.

[B]

I gave you.

[C]

This is my team's biggest game of the year.

[B]

It's their biggest game to this point now.

[C]

Yeah. What's bigger? New Mexico?

[A]

Hey. Hey, buddy. Listen, I'm riding with Michigan. I want you guys to win. But as far as me picking a game, that's new.

[C]

What you know, I like that. I appreciate it. I love it.

[A]

Listen, I've rooted for Michigan on several occasions.

[C]

Don't do this.

[B]

I have, you know, big sec, big time.

[A]

I. I've said. I've said. Yeah, I've said.

[C]

Will was on the allegation portion of Michigan.

[B]

That was Willie Brown. That one.

[C]

Willie B.

[B]

That was Willie B.

[C]

It was Willie B. Yeah.

[A]

I'm still on the allegation that. The cheating stuff, I think you're. Call it how I see it.

[B]

I still think you're trash hat your program. I'm pulling for him, though.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm still.

[C]

You doing Will, or is that also you?

[B]

Honestly, I don't know.

[C]

That's why you're bulletproof.

[B]

Honestly, I don't know.

[C]

That's why you're bulletproof.

[A]

And I need.

[C]

Can you draw a line in the sand for me?

[A]

And I need. I need Michigan to be undefeated when they come into Lincoln. So. Yeah, I want Michigan to win this game.

[B]

Oh, you want to pad the resume.

[C]

When they come to this game?

[A]

Yes, I do. Why do I not you?

[C]

Because you want to feel confident about Nebraska. Michigan goes into Norman, Oklahoma. Because let's say. Yeah, like you're going into a hostile environment. A. A team that feels really good about themselves, a fan base that feels good about a team kind of. And it's like the. If you are the casual fan, you're looking at. If you're not. If you're not a Michigan fan, you're looking Oklahoma being like, that's the team that's going to Win this game.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And it's like, if Michigan does do what a lot of people think they can't do, and Bryce Underwood is as advertised and what he's been paid. Oh, then you're sitting in. We're just talking about Strictly Bus and Bull. We're our pants a little bit. If you're in Lincoln, Nebraska.

[A]

No, bro, I want to see, like, the big. The thing that. What?

[B]

What go. I want to hear the rebuttal. I love this.

[C]

I mean, is that not.

[A]

I mean, if. If you. I want Nebraska to be a great football program. The schedule that we have this year is very favorable. But I don't want, like, if you guys get beat and it's like an ugly loss against Oklahoma and we end up beating you guys on September 20th, like, I still don't know what we got, and I don't want it to wait until USC or Penn State and then we get whooped. And it's like, you know, you got this fodder. You got this, oh, we're undefeated, but we're not. Not really an undefeated football team. I want you guys to be good. So we are playing against a good team on September 20th. Win Luke's draw. I want to know what we got in Lincoln Bruin and Lincoln, Nebraska. So you're wrong. I want you guys to play well. I want Bryce Underwood to be as advertised. I want to taste that competition on September 20th. I welcome it. I want it.

[B]

It's a Warriors mentality. Not a lot of it left out there. I think you're in the minority.

[C]

It's a good word.

[B]

Not a lot of it left you ate. It's a generational mentality.

[C]

You brought me back. Not a lot of guys would sit on here and say that you brought him back, but you brought me back.

[A]

Love the over.

[C]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

What.

[C]

Will you sprinkle? Michigan plus five and a half.

[A]

Yeah, I'll sprinkle it for you. But I'm saying, yeah, absolutely, dude. I'm gonna be rooting for you guys. I'm gonna be rooting for you guys.

[C]

You better say, it's like the question mark is a little different than the last couple of years. Like, you've looked at me in the eyes on that bus and said, I want Michigan to come.

[A]

Cause, bro, there's just an arrogance that Michigan men can have about themselves.

[C]

I don't disagree. I'm one of them. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

To where it's like the padding on the Nebraska head. Let's make Nebraska mediocre again. It's like Nah. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I hope you guys fail.

[C]

This is Wil Compton coming from an abusive relationship. Dave Portnoy coming to me and I listen.

[A]

You try to be in Portnoy 2.0 as well.

[C]

Well, listen, when you're. When you were. When I'm in Lincoln and we are playing for the bus and Bowl. Yeah. I'm gonna talk down to you a little bit. Just like you would talk when we're. Whoop that candy ass. We got 60 minutes and your heart turned black. I get it.

[A]

It's a good speech.

[C]

It's a great speech.

[A]

Can't help we lost, but that was a good speech.

[C]

Yeah. 45 minutes. I'm just saying, like, Dave can do what Dave wants in that situation. Yeah. Have I had a couple sprinkles of Dave on you? No doubt. But I haven't been that too. You're not him, I'm not Dave.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I have also consistently rooted for Nebraska. Are you sprinkling Michigan plus five and a half?

[B]

If you give me five and a half, I'll sprinkle Michigan.

[C]

I mean, it's there, it's on the field.

[B]

I'll sprinkle Michigan. I will hammer the over. Okay, so whatever you do, score 30 when you do it.

[A]

Yeah. This is a big game for you.

[C]

Could you imagine Bryce Underwood like just being the generational quarterback?

[B]

You wouldn't be alone using that word. If he goes in there and wins like that. This is. This is the same guy, Brent Venables, who watched TUA smoke the SEC all year. Get him in a national championship game. Lulliman will fall a sense of security between the twenties and just dominate him down in the red zone. That's why I think rushing yards is not actually the most important thing here. This is one of those like Penn State, Ohio State situations. Penn State runs the ball for 200, still loses on Ohio State. Cause between the 20s, they get theirs field compresses. They can't do anything down in the red area. That's Brent Venable's entire movie. So like I want to see Michigan because they're gonna be about three or four situations they get plus territory. They get down inside the 20 decision making there. How much do they trust Underwood on the road? Michigan staff? And what can Brent Venables do to him? Because that's really probably where our total is decided. That's absolutely where the game's decided.

[C]

Jayson Barum.

[B]

Garbage. Not him. The call.

[C]

The call.

[B]

Garbage. Yeah.

[C]

Okay, I agree.

[B]

Ridiculous.

[C]

It was absolutely ridiculous. And then they, they went to appeal and they're like, nope. Big Ten even shut it down.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, you can't tell me that's a little bit of targeting is.

[B]

Really broken in college football. Really broken.

[C]

It's broken.

[B]

You want to call it roughing, whatever.

[C]

That's a heartbreaking loss. And that is. I mean, that was the drive. There was three separate penalties on third down. So that was a strip sack, fumble brought back for a touchdown. They called that targeting. The new set of downs. Then they're in third and 12. They end up getting another penalty, getting in the first and 10, which led them to get another seven points, which, when you look at the box score, that's when you're like, okay, Michigan, maybe not have the best day ever. I think on defense, we're solid, but we're very vanilla on both sides of the ball. I'm excited.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

I'm jacked. I'm going. I'm jacked.

[C]

I know. I'm kind of jealous.

[A]

You're going bust and bowl.

[B]

Let's talk about it.

[A]

Are you going to the bus and bowl? And are you going to my birthday?

[B]

When's your birthday?

[A]

September 19th. So on a Friday. That's where the live show is. We got bus and bowl on September 20th.

[B]

I'm gonna verbally commit to your birthday. That's a verbal. That's a soft verbal. Yeah. I've missed so many of those birthdays. I can't miss this one.

[A]

Not this year.

[C]

Dog of the week.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You hit your dog of the week.

[B]

Oh, I did. Outright.

[C]

Outright.

[B]

Didn't even need the points. I think I may need the points.

[C]

That would have been a statement win. Still looks the same on your win loss record.

[A]

Right. You were cruising. You get bit. You got the big noon kickoff game, Ohio State, Texas, Midwest through the game. It's like, oh, usf.

[C]

Yeah, boy. Locked.

[B]

We were standing. We were standing in the stadium looking at the. Looking at the thing because I had Syracuse plus the points, too. And me and you were going back and forth. Tennessee took the lead, Q's back in the lead.

[A]

We were right.

[B]

We found out the scoreboard was broken.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Tennessee was just pulling away.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We went out and we're like, jack, you okay? He goes, yeah, it's a great day, right?

[B]

I've been fine.

[C]

You see the score.

[A]

What happened defensively, he's like, we're playing pretty good.

[B]

I'm like, we scored multiple times.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Because we thought it was like 24, 21 balls back and forth.

[A]

Jack was like, yeah, it's 24, 7 or something like that.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. My fault. Dog of the week. I'll be quick. Charlotte, I got them plus 12 and a half against UNC. Bill Belichick, his girlfriend, stilettos on the sideline next to the players. Unless you're a cheerleader, it doesn't work. It's not going to happen. No disrespect to Bill Belichick. I love him. I love what he did with the Patriots for as long as he did. But you hear the things with the five star recruits coming in, and they wait an hour, hour and a half for Bill Belichick. Then it turns out you can't go see Bill Belichick. Let's take you to the airport. All of those things and then you see the results on the field. It's going to be a very short tenure for Bill Belichick. I got Charlotte covering 12 and a half.

[A]

My dog is going to be army plus 17 and a half. When you don't know what to do, who do you pick? You pick your country.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Kansas State. What they put on film the last two weeks, I have zero reason to think they're going to cover 17 and a half against army. So I'm choosing the country. Army plus 17. 17 and a half.

[C]

Shout out Avery Johnson's family. They're probably another fist fight on the horizon.

[A]

And Pavia's family, too, getting in fights after the.

[C]

Yeah, but I heard Pavia's family was, like, protecting their brother. I think that's as. As pave as you can get. I mess with it. Yeah, like they were tarps off, bandanas on. They're out there getting, you know, full Nelson's chokes.

[B]

I'm gonna go James Madison, do what army did.

[A]

Just lose to an FCS team. That's not a way to support your country, Mitch.

[B]

Wow. Like, no one's history is perfect.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We did some bad shit, but we're still the best.

[B]

Give me James Madison. Plus 13 and a half against Louisville. Yeah.

[C]

JMU fight song just went on. Yay. Good timing, Delaney. That was beautiful.

[B]

JMU 13 and a half against Louisville. They lose by about 10.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

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Back to this episode weekly Parlay. I'm taking Illinois minus two and a half. I love this pick. I love this pick because Josh Pate won the pick. I already took it. Then Will Compton won the pick. It finding out I already took it. Duke, you played your. You paid your quarterback a billion dollars. I don't think it's enough. I think Illinois is kind of a disrespected team in the Big Ten. Yep.

[A]

Two and a half points.

[C]

Two and a half points.

[A]

Take that.

[C]

Run with it, boys. Run with it. Bielema.

[A]

Hey, love that pick. I'm going. Ole Miss minus ten and a half. Revenge game against Kentucky. Ten and a half. Run it up, run it up. Lane Kiffin.

[C]

Who's Mincy? I had to watch that game with Mincy after surviving Barstow when we were eliminated.

[A]

And he.

[C]

I swear to God, we're sitting in the house. And he goes, taylor, I'm telling you right now, Ole Miss is going to kill Kentucky. So I put like 2 grand on the game.

[A]

Yeah. And he was about himself.

[C]

You know who Minty is?

[B]

No, I know all too well.

[C]

Mincy telling me this and I hate it. I was like, yeah, hell yeah. I'm like a little. I'm a little cooked up. I watch too many Rocky movies. Be like, hell yeah.

[A]

Did you think about that fan base, how pissed off Mincy was? That's what you need going into this.

[B]

Did you watch the game with him?

[C]

Oh, I watched game with him. I actually had to go into a different room.

[B]

He must have sounded like a jackhammer operator by the end of that game.

[C]

What are we doing? Everything was just the most dramatic thing ever. 3 yard game. Games weren't good enough.

[B]

That was mad.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Give me SMU -2 and a half against Baylor. Baylor's gonna start owing to smu. You want to talk about disrespected Illinois? What about them, man? They played in the Commerce title game last year.

[C]

Oil money, too.

[B]

Yeah. No one even cares about them. No one's talking about. JP poll's not even talking about it. People's not top 20, not top 20.

[C]

SMU SMU sleeper sleeper, boys. Right there. A lot of money in that program.

[A]

That parlay. Minus two, Illinois minus two and a half. SMU minus two and a half and Ole Miss minus ten and a half.

[C]

That.

[A]

That totals out to plus 583. FanDuel Sportsbook. Thank you, boys. Do we have anything else?

[C]

I do want to say one thing. Last year, last week, I did not hit the parlay. I did not bet the parlay. I want to let the fans know. This week I am betting this parlay. This one feels good.

[B]

Character move.

[C]

Yeah. Want to be honest with our audience?

[A]

Yeah. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Thank you guys. See you next week.

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