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Jeremy Klump
Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to week 13 of the Locker room College football. I'm joined with my handler, Will Compton. Also on the show will be the commissioner himself, Josh Pate. Let's look into the games today. We're gonna have number 22, Mizzou. At number eight, Oklahoma. Then we're gonna have Pitt at Georgia Tech. Now, fun thing about this game is I, I studied for Louisville SMU for two hours last night. Got a text at 6am Said we're moving that to Pitt. Georgia Tech, that's going to be a fun one to go over. Then we got number 20, Tennessee at Florida. November swamp, very interesting time of year. The Tennessee fans, they're shaking in their boots a little bit. One loss. BYU plays at Cincinnati. They've dropped their last two. And then USC at Oregon will be the true classic game of the week. Let's get into the standings. Will Compton, 2 and 3. He's almost as consistent as Josh Pitt who has gone two and three the last six weeks in a row. With gout and what I have going on my body, it shut off everything. For whatever reason, my brain is working correctly. When he come to picking these Games, I am 3 and 2 and 30 and 32 overall this year. We got it. We got a hell of a show for you guys today. Please do me a favor. So subscribe and you leave comments. It helps us so much and it doesn't hurt you at all. Let's have a great trail.
Will Compton
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Jeremy Klump
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Josh Pate
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Jeremy Klump
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Josh Pate
It was dead the first three legs.
Jeremy Klump
That's the thing about monsoons, man. You know how long monsoons last on.
Will Compton
Average, the entirety of the Iowa USC game. That's how long monsoons last.
Jeremy Klump
Monsoons, as we talked about last week, do not happen in Southern California.
Will Compton
A lot of rain though.
Jeremy Klump
A lot of rain.
Will Compton
Way different than a monsoon.
Josh Pate
Obviously.
Jeremy Klump
Way different than a monsoon. Way different than a monsoon. But yeah, dude, 12 lakes, $14,000. Like if you're not just taking that profit boost token and just hawking guesses out there with a boost going up like this, I don't know what you're doing.
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Jeremy Klump
Oh, thank you.
Josh Pate
I just figured I'd just flow.
Jeremy Klump
Let's just hit this last sentence right now.
Josh Pate
How we doing, man?
Jeremy Klump
I'm not good.
Will Compton
Bro.
Jeremy Klump
Like, we're having fun, right? And this is content. And it's like, we're gonna make the most out of a shitty situation when it comes to this stuff. But I'm truly in hell.
Josh Pate
Like, I. I don't think people understand too, that you're right. Like content, there's bits, there's this and that.
Jeremy Klump
Right.
Josh Pate
It's as bad as it looks for you.
Jeremy Klump
It is.
Josh Pate
And it's slowly gotten that much worse. Like, you've had. You've talked about it on bussin at length.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, Like, I truly, like, I don't know what to think of my life right now. I don't know what's happening. I've talked about on bus and how I used to be this and now I'm that. But here's where I am questioning myself and my toughness and Josh, this is a story for you. These guys have all heard this story already. Two nights ago, I was sleeping. I haven't had a good night of sleep in three weeks since this gatta started. I'm doing the thing where you're sleeping and your body is telling you, hey, you gotta pee, but you're still pretending like you're asleep, as if you're going to trick your body and we'll just wait till the morning.
Josh Pate
I do that all the time.
Jeremy Klump
All the time.
Josh Pate
I pee a little bit. Yeah, I actually did the other night.
Jeremy Klump
Did you really?
Josh Pate
Yeah, but it was very small.
Jeremy Klump
But you've done that before.
Will Compton
Yeah, not in the last. Not in the last several weeks. But yes, I can relate that.
Josh Pate
He peed himself, like, the other night.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, no, no, we're so.
Josh Pate
That's very small. It was very. It was very small.
Jeremy Klump
That's a Will Compton. You can't walk. You're not doing that. Yeah, but I'm. I'm not far away from that. Like that. That's Will's. Like, that's his level one. Like, he is there. That's Will's baseline is like peeing a little bit in the bed. Which shout out Charo for doing the sheets all the time. So anyway, I go to get out of bed and I stand up and I just fall to the ground and obviously I have a bad right knee. I crawl on all, like, my hands and knees to the Bathroom to go and take a piss, and I pick myself up onto the toilet, sit down to pee, pee and then crawl back to go to bed, only to have my 15 year old dog who is deaf, dumb and blind, kind of like ticking, tapping her little foots at the door till she has to go out and pee too. We're like synced up at this point. So I, hands and knees, crawl over, I'm in my underwear by myself, I open the door, let her out, and then I'm like screaming for her at 1:30 in the morning, like, just please come back. And I'm on hands and knees, like bang on the window. She can hear something, but she doesn't know where it's coming from. So that's essentially where my life is at this point.
Will Compton
Do you guys have like security camera stuff set up in your house?
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
So that exists? Footage of that exists.
Jeremy Klump
It could. It absolutely could.
Will Compton
The reason I mentioned that is like, I feel terrible for you. We've established that. I kissed you off camera this morning.
Jeremy Klump
I wasn't gonna bring it up. You brought it up. I'm glad you did.
Will Compton
That's how bad I feel. What I'm trying to say is you said that you're here and we gotta create content. Those are your words, not mine.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
So I think we know where we could go with that.
Jeremy Klump
Here's where the issue is, is those cameras that are outside, you're gonna see a door open and you're gonna see a dog run out. And then you're just gonna, you're not gonna, you're just gonna see a do because someone's banging on it.
Will Compton
But I mean, like, you got kids. I thought you may have the indoor surveillance stuff set up.
Jeremy Klump
Not in my master bedroom. Good, though. The lecture home movie.
Josh Pate
And you're saying the door where you let the dog out was from your bedroom?
Jeremy Klump
Yeah. So like my master bedroom, it has a door that goes to the outside.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Open that door and let the dog out. And then the dog eventually came back in. But I never peaked my.
Will Compton
Oh, you did not crawl outside?
Jeremy Klump
No, no, no. I stood where I had to be as if I was also another dog. Kind of just waiting for my dog friend to come back.
Will Compton
How close are you, do you think, to like rails being installed in the home, parking in different parking spots, that sort of thing?
Jeremy Klump
If the option was given to me to have one of those cool handicap stickers.
Will Compton
Let's not call it cool.
Jeremy Klump
Okay. If the option was given to me the luxury of having a handicap sticker.
Will Compton
Let's not call it a luxury either. Let's just call it a detail.
Jeremy Klump
If I was able to have a handicap sticker, I would. I would take it and I. I would be very grateful to have that.
Will Compton
Very grateful, because I can get you one by lunch.
Jeremy Klump
Can you really?
Will Compton
Yeah. I can get you one of those whole shops.
Jeremy Klump
You can't get me.
Will Compton
How awesome would it be to be Handicapp? I can do it by lunch. Yeah, we could do that.
Jeremy Klump
I am handicapped, dude.
Josh Pate
Like, we got him staying in the handicap room tonight when we go up to New York.
Jeremy Klump
Ask Clump saw me yesterday. Will was filming for the Dads before we had to do K. Adams yesterday. And I was laying on the couch after I got blood work done, and Will walks in. He goes, that bad, huh? I'm like, yes, dude. It's miserable. Like, just sitting up. Like, right now. I am in pain right now. Clump. He starts, my wife comes to pick me up yesterday, starts talking about, hey, he's acting a little like this. And that some experiences that I've had have kind of been like this. Maybe you should get him checked out for being septic. And talks Taylor into taking me to the hospital yet again. So two weeks in a row.
Will Compton
I heard, going to the hospital, that sounds like the kind of thing where 10 years from now when you're given an inspirational talk to middle schoolers and, like, it's your survival story, that's chapter one. Jeremy Klump saved my life.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
Jeremy Klump is the reason I'm here speaking to you children today.
Jeremy Klump
I'm hoping at this point, at the end of the day, I don't care what the news is. I just want an ANSW for what's going on, because I go to the hospital yesterday. He's like, who said this was gout? I was like. I said this was gout.
Will Compton
WebMD, buddy.
Josh Pate
WebMD said this was gout.
Jeremy Klump
No, I've had gout before and felt the exact same as gout. So therefore, it's gout. In my head, he's like, gout does not last for three weeks. And then he started to get concerned about the possible infection I have going on. But this morning. Shout out Derek. He's not in the. He's not in here right now, but he got me this wheelchair, and it's so much help, dude. But I've been in hell. I'm truly in hell. It's awful.
Will Compton
T's and peas.
Josh Pate
Yeah. T's and peas, man.
Jeremy Klump
Thanks, man.
Josh Pate
Thoughts and prayers in the chat for our fallen soldier still operating Though still operating three and two last week.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah. Yeah.
Josh Pate
You feeling good about the games this weekend?
Jeremy Klump
Kinda, yeah. I mean, I said it in the intro. Like, I was really. I took about two hours last night and read up on Louisville at smu.
Josh Pate
I was. When we were talking about the Louisville SMU game, I got that same text at 6 this morning. I'm like, I'm down to do that. I don't even know why we were talking about Louisville smu.
Jeremy Klump
Anyway, he texted me and said, will and Peter are good with this. And I just looked at it and.
Josh Pate
I was like, he must have started with Pate. Cause he's like, pete's good with this.
Jeremy Klump
So he texts me. I look at it on my phone. I'm like, I don't know if it's because I'm in pain that's making. That's pissing me off that I'm getting this text two hours before a show starts or I'm actually pissed off. So I'm just gonna leave it on red and just keep fighting a good fight.
Josh Pate
We're just. We're getting that much closer to the college football playoffs with the rankings dropping last night. We. We are just. That's what I'm excited about.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Josh Pate
Like, I'm ready to see some chaos. There's not a whole lot of chaos potential. I feel like this weekend, outside of, like, what, usc, Oregon. Don't sleep on Mizzou in Oklahoma. But other than that, like, I'm ready to get more. I'm just ready to get in that mode.
Jeremy Klump
You think there's an upset alert with Mizzou and Oklahoma?
Josh Pate
I think they very well could be.
Jeremy Klump
All right, talk to me. Introduce that. Introduce that game. Wait, hold on. Should we. Should we check in on Pete, see how he's doing?
Josh Pate
Yeah. How are you doing since the rankings came out last night? I heard you kind of talking about the. Let's say there's a clip I saw about them getting in some hot water with Notre Dame, Miami.
Will Compton
There's a lot of potential. I think there's a potential catastrophe, like, right on the horizon.
Josh Pate
Here's the question I would ask you. Is it. Is it a catastrophe just because the way they started ranking Notre Dame, they would just look dumb because they had them. They had them start so high, and then all they've done is went out the rest of the season. Then they've slowly trickled down. And then once they get in that. What'd you call it? The pool?
Will Compton
The comparative pool.
Josh Pate
The comparative pool. Once they get in the comparative pool of Miami. Then they get jumped by Miami for the at large bid. Because at the end of the day it would have still worked itself out.
Will Compton
It would have worked itself out. Look, my problem is not with the process. If you thoroughly explain the process. They're terrible at explaining the process. Like, do you really think a random person who lives in Des Moines, Iowa, who works a normal 9 to 5 job and is not like data minded, they just love college football and they watch the rankings on Tuesday night, do you really think they know the intricacies of the process that goes behind the rankings? Of course they don't. You can't expect your audience to know that. So what you got to do is you got to be really forthright. That's why on that ranking show you got the numbers, you got the rankings and you got Rhys Davis talking with the committee chair for five minutes. The committee chair is now Hunter Jureczyk. Because Mack Rhodes, he's no longer there. And I'll let other people in the building talk about why he's no longer there if they want to. Hunter Jurecheck was like sweating Crisco last night on camera talking about the rankings. Cause he's ill equipped to do it. It's not even his fault. He's running a full time coaching search at Arkansas and then all of a sudden he's stepping away to be put on live TV to explain numbers, which he's just not ready to do. So they put him on last night and he was talking about Miami, Notre Dame. So remember when the rankings first came out, we talked about on the show how Miami's beaten Notre dame, but Miami's 18th and Notre Dame's like 10th. And so there's enough gap between them where apparently the head to head just didn't matter. Well, it turns out that's not the case. They just hadn't thoroughly enough explained their process. Now I'm about to explain it. It's going to be really quick. It's going to sound stupid because it is stupid. But the way they do it is they don't just stack all the teams 1 through 50 and just pick the top 25. And it's not a computer where they go crunch and the computer just spits out the rankings. They do, what are you. They use what are called comparative pools. So they take like a cluster of four teams at a time and then they rank those four teams in a row. Then they move to the next four, Then they rank those four teams in a row and what he was trying to say on TV Last night, as we're recording, is the head to head actually hasn't had a chance to matter yet because we haven't had Notre Dame and Miami close enough to be placed in the same comparative pool, which means we've never put Miami and Notre Dame on the board at the same time, which means the head to head hasn't mattered. But unlike the first week of the rankings, if you watched the rankings last night, there were only like four spots separating Miami and Notre Dame. And it looks like Miami could keep climbing. And Notre Dame's done climbing because they play two terrible teams at the end of the year. So there's no way to further inflate their resume. They've also got like Utah, byu, Alabama between them. Bama's either going to climb or fall. There's no way Bama finishes between them. It doesn't feel like. So Miami and Notre Dame are eventually going to be close enough according to the committee's own process, where they're put on the board at the same time. If you put Miami and Notre Dame on the board at the same time and their resumes are comparable, you got to value head to head.
Josh Pate
That's their protocol, which is that's when they will value head to head. Miami will jump Notre Dame. That dude in Iowa watching TV just week after week screaming, saying, why do we. We just keep trickling down one by one and now we're out of the playoff and we've been in it the last five weeks. I've watched this show.
Will Compton
Yes, and he would have a point because it's been terribly articulated to him. You're going to. You're going to have watched Notre Dame be ahead of Miami all year. All they did was keep winning. And then at the very end someone's going to tell you Miami jumped Notre Dame because of head to head. To which your reasonable response would be, but you knew the head to head the whole time. It's not like we just played. We played three months ago. So why is the head to head all of a sudden just now mattering? It matters cause of something called comparative pools.
Josh Pate
And you don't know you were using. Were you using the example of four teams at a time just to set the stage or set the example, or do you know how many teams get in a comparative pool?
Will Compton
I believe. Don't quote me on this. I believe I saw a screenshot of like a protocol from the committee's website where it's like three or four teams, I think. But if you just do the math, if one of them's nine and one of them's 13. And they're telling me they still haven't been put in the same comparative po. It's got to be less than four. It's got to be three or four or something like that. So that's going to be the mess. And then the other mess is Alabama's sitting at number 10 right now. And so I'm wondering, all right, if Alabama beats Auburn and then wins the SEC championship game, are they going to jump all the way back up into the top four and get a first round buy? Because if they don't, you're really sabotaging your conference championship games. Because people. I was in Athens last week, right?
Josh Pate
As far as, like, they're already saying.
Will Compton
At Georgia, we don't want to play in Atlanta. I'm not talking about Kirby. I'm talking about, like, their fan base. I was down there last week. I found way more people who were totally comfortable being the 5 seed than actually wanted to be top 4. Let's go to Atlanta. And the same thing could be said at a place like Ole Miss. You think Ole Miss wants to go to Atlanta? They're set up to have an off week the first week of December and then a home playoff game. They'd love that. So you're already dealing with that if you're a conference and you are making tons of money off these conference title games, but that's all contingent on them mattering. To maintain the value of those conference championship games, you got to incentivize playing in them and winning them. And if Bama goes to Atlanta, wins it, and doesn't jump into the top four, you have reinforced some of the thinking that has started to permeate through the Big Ten, through the SEC. It'll just get turned up to 11 at that point.
Jeremy Klump
So would the answer be we're not going to do conference championship games anymore?
Will Compton
I think not only that, I think people would revolt. I think people would just openly say, we don't even want to play in it. If I were the sec, like, I would look at it, frankly.
Josh Pate
You are the college football commissioner when you are. What's this going to look like, buddy?
Will Compton
That we don't have long enough today? We do have to break down games. I would. I would be very, very transparent about the selection process. You've got an idea about your own G5 playoff, which I've advocated for a ton of times, and I think we ought to explore it. But you got to responsibly explore it. You can't just say no G5 team and OK, yes.
Josh Pate
So like creating a G5. Creating a separate G5 playoff.
Will Compton
Yes.
Josh Pate
Yeah, I am fully on board with that.
Will Compton
But you got to have the money there.
Jeremy Klump
Nit.
Will Compton
No, not at nit.
Josh Pate
I think NIT would be electric. Sleeping on the NIT tournament.
Jeremy Klump
What schools are going to go and do that? Because you see all these players now. If you're not in the playoffs, they're all sitting out. They're not.
Josh Pate
No, no, you're right. This is more of the fan talking. Just having another. Another tournament out there like that when bus and put the graphic together what the tournament could look like. It's like these games could be sick. Just as exciting to watch.
Will Compton
But think about the state of college football or the landscape of it right now. Right now we're supposed to pretend 136 teams are playing the same sport. Of course they're not. Like Michigan and UL Monroe have never played the same sport. But for the playoff purposes, we're just supposed to believe that even though everyone in the room knows the deal, we're supposed to believe that because once upon a time, someone upset someone. So we're supposed to believe. Yeah, man. USF could go to Tuscaloosa or Athens or Lubbock or something as a three touchdown dog. It's irrelevant because it doesn't even make sense. Like, the proper way to construct college football would be to have certain teams that are roughly the same size, spend roughly the same amount, recruit roughly the same kind of talent, have roughly the same kind of resources competing for a championship, and then have teams mainly would be your G5s that would compete for their own championship. But also you still got to subsidize them. Like, if you gave me my option, I would let the G5 ranks take the same cut of revenue that they currently take from the College Football Playoff, but just build their own playoff and have their own TV deal with it. I mean, the Mac gets money to play games on weeknights. You don't think that the G5 ranks would get enough money on a playoff contract to build their own system? I firmly believe they would. People have just pushed back on it. And I've never heard an actual good reason. I've heard reasons. They're just not good reasons.
Jeremy Klump
So maybe we live in a world like in high school sports where there's like 1A, 2A, 3A, and then the biggest schools who are paying $50 million per roster, they all live in this, the biggest district. And then we go by money. Who's putting in the most. This is the district you're going to live in.
Will Compton
Yeah. And if you want to say, well, that cuts us off, I would say, well, then I'm totally comfortable with the promotion and relegation system. Because as much as Tulane should earn the right or be able to earn the right to climb up in ranks, if you perennially suck and you penny pinch and you don't spend money, then you ought to fall down the ladder. I got no problem with a promotion relegation mechanism within that. It just makes no sense right now. Like, let's just be real. You don't have to. You don't have to be crapping on Tulane to understand a way better team's about to have a shot taken from them. Because we baked in a Mechanism wherein a G5 team has to have a spot in the playoff. We keep on having the rankings. And then FanDuel sends us the hypothetical lines and they're like three games where the point spread would be three or four or five. And then there's one where the point spreads, like 21 1/2 in the first round. It's obvious one of those things is not like the other.
Jeremy Klump
Right.
Will Compton
And then you got some guy comes and tells you, well, point spreads don't matter. And so and so upset. So and so one time as a big underdog. Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
It's always the Boise State Fiesta bowl debacle. Our thing on Bussin was. Or my thing on Bussin was if you're going to be a G5 team that makes it, you have to be undefeated. Not only undefeated, but you have to like, win these games by multiple scores.
Josh Pate
Not only undefeated, you gotta.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, but you've gotta show something like, incredible. If you think you're gonna go compete against some of those other schools, because then it is allow you to be like a Boise State or some of these schools that are upsetting or what was it, UCF that went 12 and. Oh, and they just decided they're a national championship team.
Josh Pate
Right. With Scott Frost before he went to Nebraska.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, yeah.
Josh Pate
To where you have an undefeated year. Because what is it? Who is it? North Texas or Tulane who lost to utsa?
Will Compton
They've all got losses now. Yeah.
Josh Pate
You see some role too. I loved his. He had a post practice presser yesterday talking about how average his team has looked at times.
Will Compton
He's been totally honest.
Josh Pate
He's been totally honest about transparency. Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Last thing before we get into the games, playoffs you talked about in your show last night. Everyone's talking about a 24. Is this is the game plan here? Hey, we're going to. We're going to say, hey, why don't we do a 24 team playoff just to land on 16. Is that kind of the, hey, we're going to do this? Everyone freaks out, then you go to 16. I was like, okay, that makes sense.
Will Compton
So negotiation tactic, basically. Maybe. But it sounds like the Big Ten really wants that 24 team.
Jeremy Klump
For real.
Will Compton
They're really like, I thought initially what you thought. I floated that to a Big Ten athletic. It was Pat Kraft. I floated it to Pat Kraft. Pat Kraft said, no, that's not what we're doing here. Because I had just done a show where I talked about that. Then I went up to Penn State and he was standing on the practice field. I talked to him about it. He was like, no, that's kind of not what we're doing, though. We really think there's a lot of merit behind this model. I, of course, disagree, but at least.
Josh Pate
He was honest with me. In their shoes, what's the merit?
Jeremy Klump
That would be awesome for the viewer. How awesome would that be?
Will Compton
But it really wouldn't be. Yeah, but it really wouldn't. Why not?
Jeremy Klump
More football.
Will Compton
More football, More football.
Josh Pate
But meaningless regular season games.
Will Compton
Totally meaningless. Totally Texas.
Josh Pate
Then you'd be starting to think, like, okay, somebody, you know, we could arrest certain guys in certain games. Like, truly regular season games get very diluted.
Will Compton
My big fear was when we expanded to 12, that was gonna happen, but it really has not happened to the degree I was scared it would happen.
Josh Pate
12'S been awesome.
Will Compton
So, like, we're good at 12. We're good at. So my biggest fears were not realized. Fingers were crossed. Biggest fears not realized. If you move to 24, just to give you an idea of what we're talking about here, like, Texas is squarely in a 2014 playoff with room to lose another game. If we're talking about a 2014 playoff. So think about the urgency that is removed from that Texas Georgia game last week. The best commodity college football has to me is regular season games. So I got to come at it from that position. If you're a playoff guy, if you're the kind of person who says, like college basketball, I start watching in March, or in football, I start watching in December, you probably don't feel the way I do. But if you're a big fan of regular season, like fall Saturdays, and that's the most precious thing, you got to protect that thing, this is really easy to see. Like, they want more money, so a bigger playoff would print more money for them. These are not people who share the same sentiment about college football being great that I would or you would or you would. They don't necessarily care about the fall Saturday stuff. They look at P and L, they look at KPI. They look at the kind of stuff you would hear in a boardroom, which is okay. I just don't prefer those kinds of people having their hands on the wheel of college football. The last two big ideas the Big Ten have had had totally sucked. Michigan and USC stood up to one of them and put a kibosh for the time being on the private equity money infusion.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, I still don't fully understand that whole thing.
Will Compton
You don't need to. It's just terrible. So then the second thing is, hey, if we can't get that, then let's expand the playoff to 24. It also looks like that's going to crash and burn. Like I watched for quite a while Kevin Warren be one of the worst power conference commissioners I'd ever seen. And so when the Big Ten replaced Kevin Warren, I thought, hey, nowhere to go but up. I can't even tell the difference. So that's where we are right now.
Josh Pate
I have one last one because as we were talking about the college world playoff, the SEC championship in particular, like seeing that Alabama is. They're more likely going to be in the SEC championship and I agree with you. It's like if they win the SEC championship, they take down top four team in A and M. Like valuing the SEC champion and the wins that Alabama has on their resume would warrant a top four seed. My question would be if they go into the SEC championship and they lose, they're out of it.
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Will Compton
There's no way, there's no way I could, I could not see it. There's no way to let it happen. They didn't let it happen to SMU last year. SMU is.
Josh Pate
But SMU lost and they ended up a two loss team.
Will Compton
But what I'm saying is a two loss Alabama would still be viewed above and beyond a one loss SMU because of the conference they went through and because of the number of ranked teams they played. So if Alabama like what you're saying to paint the picture for people who aren't like thinking with the rankings board in their head. Bama's 10 right now.
Josh Pate
Right.
Will Compton
They beat Auburn. I don't know if they would climb or not. Let's say they climbed to nine, but they're nine or ten. So they're right there on the ball.
Josh Pate
They'll probably jump Notre Dame, but let's say they do.
Will Compton
So let's say they're number nine.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Josh Pate
The Notre Dame, Miami stads.
Will Compton
You're saying they go to Atlanta as the nine seed. So they're in the playoff bubble as they go to Atlanta in the conference championship game, in the sec.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
So they've earned the right to play an extra game. Ole Miss sits at home that week, Georgia sits at home that week. Just knowing they're safe in the playoff. Alabama loses that extra game, they earn the right to be in. And some are saying, and you're floating the scenario, they fall out because they have another loss. And what I'm telling you is the kind of the same point I was making a little while ago. If they win the game and they're not put in the top four, you greatly diluted the value of your conference title game. Even if one of your participants loses the game, if they drop out of the playoff because they lost a game they earned the right to play in, you have, you have completely like you've taken a blowtorch to your conference championship game. And the point I was making is SMU was in that spot last year. SMU played a way weaker schedule last year than Bama. That's why I would say a one loss, smu two loss, Alabama, comparable. SMU went in the ACC title game right on the bubble and they lost to Clemson. And going into Selection Sunday, that was the big talking point. Are they going to drop SMU behind Bama or Ole Miss or South Carolina? And they didn't even drop them. So no. I've seen a lot of people agree with you. I would have to see that to believe it. There's just no way I could see that.
Jeremy Klump
I'm not saying.
Will Compton
You're not saying it's right. You're saying it could happen.
Josh Pate
Right? Right. Just because where my brain goes, like, let's just. If you pretend that Vandy wins out, they're two lost team. You got Oklahoma. If they went out there too lost.
Will Compton
You could have USC there, you could have Oregon there, you could have a bunch of Notre Dame. Like there's a log jam potentially of two lost teams. Brigham Young could be there, Utah could be there. I'm saying like I know someone's got to make it and a bunch of people have to be left out. If you're.
Josh Pate
That's more so what? That's. That's more where I'm coming from is they would have a 3 loss and you know, obviously we're playing a bunch of hypotheticals Right now.
Will Compton
But it's only two weeks.
Josh Pate
Basically if, if everybody else stays. Course you're looking at Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, then you're looking at Vandy, Georgia.
Will Compton
I don't know. The Vandy's guaranteed if they went out.
Josh Pate
I'm saying in the scenario that Bama goes and loses the SEC championship.
Will Compton
Yeah. Oh yeah. You're talking about the teams they'd be fighting against.
Josh Pate
Yeah. You'd have four SEC teams. You'd have two that are too lost.
Will Compton
It'd be Miami up there too.
Josh Pate
Yeah. Because you're going to have to have the ACC champion in there.
Will Compton
Michigan could be up there.
Jeremy Klump
Oh, absolutely.
Will Compton
Michigan could be up there.
Josh Pate
Yeah. It creates a whole. Do you guys go to the Big Ten championship if you beat Ohio State?
Jeremy Klump
I think it has to do with if usc. If USC beats Oregon this week. I think the answer to that is.
Josh Pate
No because then USC has the.
Jeremy Klump
I think they have the tiebreaker. Yeah.
Josh Pate
Because they'd be a two loss. That's right. You're right.
Jeremy Klump
But if Oregon beats usc, we have the tie break over Ohio State because we're only one loss in our conference. I could be getting that wrong.
Will Compton
I don't know about the Big Ten tiebreaker. I was just saying if there's a three way, would Oregon get back?
Josh Pate
If Oregon beats usc, there's still a one loss team. They lost to Indiana. There's still a one loss team in the Big Ten.
Will Compton
There's a world where usc, Michigan and Ohio State are all one loss Big Ten teams. Because Michigan's other loss is Oklahoma. Oregon would be a two loss team there. Two lost Big Ten teams. So they're not going.
Jeremy Klump
Right.
Will Compton
You're asking like, so we got the tiebreaker of Ohio State. Ohio State has a tiebreaker of. I don't know. So I don't know the Big Ten tiebreaker scenario. But if Oregon wins this weekend and then you guys go beat Ohio State, all of a sudden you're in Indy. And we're asking the same question that he was asking about Alabama.
Jeremy Klump
That is way more interesting because Alabama, I think there's you. You can easily see them staying in it. But with Michigan team who's been inconsistent this year, we're seeing around the 18th, like we're far away from the bubble.
Will Compton
How much do you jump towards the bubble? If you beat Ohio State, that's the best win. That's the best win of the year.
Jeremy Klump
If you beat the top 10, why do you do like 10, 9, 8.
Will Compton
Then that's the same question. If you jump to number 10, I.
Jeremy Klump
Think six, seven is a little too far.
Will Compton
That's true.
Jeremy Klump
But I think you're 10, 9, 8, 10 of that situation. You go, you play Indiana. Let's say you lose to Indiana. Let's say you lose by double digits.
Will Compton
To Indiana, but you were in the top 10 going into the game. You're not dropping out.
Josh Pate
See that? That's where it's going to be chaos. I love the cinema.
Jeremy Klump
Worst case, like you, you beat Ohio State, go to the Big ten championship and you lose that game by double digits. There's just multiple touchdowns. Like where it's like, oh, these are, these teams are not in the same world.
Will Compton
You can't let it happen. If you want to maintain the sanctity value, whatever you want to say.
Jeremy Klump
Because if you're in the same position next year and you look at Michigan, you're like, well, we don't want to play in the Big ten championship.
Will Compton
Yeah, well, you're looking at your conference commissioners and your league ads and you're saying, so wait, you're telling me if we had just been Georgia or Ole Miss or if we had just been Oregon or any of our at large teams and we just not been good enough to get to the conference title game, it would have been better for us if you say yes. Why do I even show up to play a conference title game? Like, why don't I boycott the game? Why would I even go? Why would my fan base want to be there? Why would my players want to be there? You're going to punish us for earning a reward. That's really what you're doing.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Josh Pate
So if we want maximum chaos in college football, we need Michigan and Bama both going to the, going to their championship games and losing and then sitting back and seeing what selection Sunday looks like.
Will Compton
And you want what you also want. You want Miami to win. You want Miami to blow out pit so that you could have the comparison, the comparative pool comparison with your Notre Dame, Miami. Also, what would help is if BYU is in the top 10 and they go to the Big 12 championship game and lose because that could be three of them. It could be Bama, Michigan and Brigham Young all in the same situation.
Josh Pate
Just a gun to, to the committee. What decisions are you going to make? All right, let's dive in, boys.
Jeremy Klump
Let's dive in.
Josh Pate
Let's dive in.
Jeremy Klump
How long has it been?
Josh Pate
33 minutes into the show.
Jeremy Klump
Okay, so we gotta kind of rip, we gotta kind of go.
Will Compton
It's a light week.
Josh Pate
Yeah, it's a light week. We got you know, no disrespect.
Will Compton
Pitt, Georgia Tech, some disrespect you were added 14 minutes ago.
Jeremy Klump
Michelob Ultra Superior is worth playing for. A couple weeks ago, I was sitting there and I was two, three matches down against Will Compton. Now I'm 7 6. So we will now play for our Michelob Ultra. This is the highlight of my week. Every single week. Are you ready?
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
You know where you're going?
Josh Pate
I'm gonna go rock.
Jeremy Klump
Okay.
Josh Pate
Paper, scissors, shoot.
Jeremy Klump
8 and 6.
Josh Pate
I would have felt bad. Like you were in a wheelchair, I would have felt bad.
Jeremy Klump
No, I just gotta tell you what, that's a classic. I think George Kittle talked about that in our podcast, how he's like, you tell people what they're going, it gets in their mind so much that they go the opposite. And you still do what you said you were gonna do.
Josh Pate
I was literally thinking, I'm gonna throw rock.
Jeremy Klump
Hey, I see that now. Superior is worth playing for. Michelob Ultra Superior Light beer.
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Josh Pate
Ed Helms here.
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Josh Pate
I choose me to discuss the new.
Will Compton
Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice.
Josh Pate
This is not a trick question.
Will Compton
There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?
Jeremy Klump
You know what?
Josh Pate
I can see you as Mr. Darcy.
Jeremy Klump
You got a little Colin Firth.
Josh Pate
Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett here.
Will Compton
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Josh Pate
Missouri goes to Oklahoma. Right now, Oklahoma is favored by seven and a half. The over, under, over, under on this game is 42 and a half. Taylor, what do you got here?
Jeremy Klump
Oh, I got. I'm going to take Oklahoma. When you look at both these teams, what does Missouri do so well? They run the ball incredibly well. Oklahoma is the number two defense in all of college football, rush defense. So when I look at those two things, I believe I'm using this correctly. This is a crowbar theory type. That could happen in this game where Missouri walks in, their hopes and dreams of a playoff is over, and quickly they find out that this defense is really good and they could just be like, you know what? Maybe not consciously, but subconsciously they bend the knee to this type of situation. So I think John Mateer has played better. I think getting a win over Alabama. There's two things that can happen when you get a win over Alabama. You can drink the Kool Aid way too much and sleep on that win. It ends up in a loss this week against Missouri. Or you can say, oh, we are a legitimate playoff contending team now. We have to go finish the way we're supposed to finish the rest of the year. John Mateer has gotten better. That Oklahoma defense is incredible. And I think Oklahoma's best matches up well with Missouri's best, Bo Prabula. They're saying he may or may not play this week. I don't think that matters very much in the passing. Statistically passing, Missouri's in the hundreds, so I don't think that changes a whole lot. They did a good job of if Bo was playing.
Josh Pate
I think it changes big time because Zoller's like, he couldn't.
Jeremy Klump
One thing we talked about Pennsylvania, right?
Josh Pate
About Zollers. He couldn't piss in a pool with a full bladder and nobody around like the guy has. You look at his box score and his games. It's tough. They are incredible. Running the football. Top ten rushing attack.
Jeremy Klump
I'll be taking Oklahoma -7 and a half.
Josh Pate
Is Bo. Do you know, are you like an Adam Schefter in the college football world?
Will Compton
No. I don't even have tattoos. I'm nowhere close to Shefter. I got nothing. I don't know if he's gonna play. I don't think. I think he may be a game time decision. But I agree, like if he plays or if he's good, if he's cleared to play. Is it him starting? Like is it him playing all 70 snaps? I don't know that that's the case. Yeah. And I don't know how like I don't know how big the gap is. In other words between QB1, QB2 at Missouri. There's a reason the guy was QB1. Yes, I trust him to throw the ball more. But their, their bread and butter is a term I hate. Their. Their only way to win this game is by running the ball. Hardy had 300 on the ground last week against Mississippi State. Now they finally like they finally clicked offensively a little bit. Mississippi State's probably mailed the season then.
Josh Pate
So then their run defense has been tough.
Will Compton
We saw with Georgia in the triple.
Josh Pate
Digits the entire year.
Will Compton
So I think a lot of people are wondering why this line is what it is. A lot of people looked at this and said they would have guessed Oklahoma minus double digits. I think the public would have guessed that. Missouri backup quarterback, playoff dreams out the window. Oklahoma just beat Bama. It's going to be a home game for Oklahoma. Seven and a half is a low number. But I think what people need to realize is Missouri does a lot of stuff really good defensively too. And Oklahoma hasn't shown the ability to pull away in games offensively. So in a way it's kind of the total inverse of last week's Oklahoma game. Oklahoma goes to Bama and Oklahoma, great run defense. Bama can't run the ball anyway. So it's all about what Oklahoma can do against the pass. And Bama got theirs through the air, but it came with turnovers. So this week team can't throw the ball to save their lives. It's all about can we stand up against the run. There's no world where Missouri is like dominating this game on the ground. There is a world where they do just enough on the ground to where they balance out field position. Like last week I think Bama started eight or not or nine drives inside their 20 so Oklahoma just tilted the field on them all day and they eventually made him pay for it with a loss. Missouri can do that kind of stuff. Like Missouri is very frustrating their top 20 pass and run defense and Oklahoma is like bottom half to bottom two thirds of the country in every major offensive statistic. So if you're wondering how this game could be a game towards the end, it's because it could be like a 16 to 12 type game in the fourth quarter to where like one ball batted up in the air and taken to the house is the difference. You can't predict that kind of stuff. Like how do you predict a punt return or a muffed punt or like oh you punching a ball out on Ryan Williams last week. That's how I think this game comes down. So in a game that's really compacted like that, like I looked at some of these, they're both in the 80s in turnover margin, they're both top 20 in third down defense, they're both top 15 in sacks. Those are the factors that will probably change the game and there's no statistical edge there. I think OU is way better at field position than Missouri is. So the way I looked at this is I would take Oklahoma if we were picking the winner. Anything above a touchdown, I would take the underdog in the points. So I think it's going to surprise some people the way this game plays out and how competitive Missouri is relatively speaking in it. So I'll take Missouri plus the points. Don't feel great about him winning the game though.
Josh Pate
Mizzou could. You know they're in the mode where they can ruin somebody's season.
Will Compton
Sure.
Josh Pate
Still playing for a lot of ball. And just to add to your because that was well said about their top 20 in past defense, top 15 in run defense, in sack percentage, their third. And when I look back and seeing kind of the running quarterbacks that Mizzouz played, Pave only had 27 on the ground. Daniels from Kansas only had 2025 on the ground. Jackson Arnold only had 14 yards on the ground from 17 attempts. I like Mizzou here Willie boy. I went in there Sunday when the line came out it was eight and a half. I got it at plus eight and a half. I'm still taking them plus seven and a half. I like Mizzou here to cover. I still think Oklahoma wins just because again it's hard to kind of quantify what special teams and turnovers does in a game. Being able to flip the field and control the line of scrimmage and mater. He's only thrown for one 200 yard plus game since the Red river rivalry. And I just think Mizzou is going to do well as far as getting after the passer, getting after the passer, going back and forth defensively with them Zollers. He will not be able to, you know, win through the air whatsoever.
Will Compton
Is he going to throw for over 100?
Josh Pate
He might. He might have a stat line of 103.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Josh Pate
103. 12 for 15.
Will Compton
One explosive play.
Josh Pate
One explosive play that they need. They're guessing run here. Maybe they pop for a play action or a screen.
Will Compton
That takes probably a full catching them.
Josh Pate
In a zero blitz or something like that. But yeah, I got Mizzou keeping it close. Mizzou could upset him, but I'm going to take him with the points.
Will Compton
This is an 11am kickoff. It's the same time window as last week's South Carolina A and M game. Just if anyone is ready to be surprised by an early kickoff, don't get surprised by this stuff.
Josh Pate
So you're saying Mizzou could go up 33 by halftime?
Will Compton
No. No one would let happen to them what South Carolina let happen to them. He's not even making eye contact with me.
Jeremy Klump
He said I won't even look.
Will Compton
He won't even look.
Jeremy Klump
I mean, that was the hardest.
Will Compton
I felt so bad. I felt so bad. I rarely text the prayer hand emojis, but I texted them. Did you.
Jeremy Klump
At what point did you send the prayer hand emojis? After the game or before the game ended?
Will Compton
Long after the game ended.
Jeremy Klump
Okay.
Will Compton
Cause what's your phone call?
Jeremy Klump
I texted JP with 7 minutes left.
Will Compton
In the 4th, 11th. Do you still have unopened text? Yeah, I figured. Shane Beamer too. Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Man, I'm so sorry.
Josh Pate
A lot of man, I'm sorry.
Jeremy Klump
I'm sorry.
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
All right, so Missouri, Missouri, Oklahoma.
Will Compton
Separation Saturday, part one.
Josh Pate
Separation, part five.
Jeremy Klump
Here we go. Now, I know that you go, you two and three every single week, I just gotta find myself on the side of your two.
Will Compton
Yeah, that's what you're doing. That's what you're doing. You're trying to find the 40% here. That's what you're trying to do.
Jeremy Klump
Right? The issue is, is okay, I've gone opposite of you once and we're. That's the first game. So I really need to be smart about where I go a lot of.
Josh Pate
Ball left in the show.
Jeremy Klump
Left in the show.
Josh Pate
I don't know how you guys feel. Like, obviously, 3 and 2, like, if you're sitting around 500. 3 and 2 is always like, a. Just a good, good feel. It's a good record if Everybody else is 2 and 3. But nothing just gets me. Like, to me, even if I was 3 and 2, like, I want to see the 4 and 1. To me, 4 and 1 is domination or above. I feel like undefeated is. 3 and 2 is way too rare.
Jeremy Klump
All right. Yeah. Good for you.
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
But it's nothing. It's nothing to call home about.
Josh Pate
You're kind of sitting back like, oh, at least I got the winning percentage on everybody. If anybody kind of talks shit, but the way you actually feel about yourself, you're like, man, I gotta get 4 and 1.
Jeremy Klump
There's nothing to sit there and be, like, truly proud of that 4 and 1, 5, 0.
Will Compton
At this point, if I go 5 and 0, your first question is, what? Did you know?
Josh Pate
Yeah. Has anybody gotten 50 this year?
Jeremy Klump
No.
Will Compton
Has there been an 0 and 5? You had one, didn't you?
Josh Pate
Delaney. Has Delaney been over in the NFL show? Did you get an OFER in college?
Jeremy Klump
Oh, yeah. You know what? I did go, you had one of her over.
Will Compton
It was a Michigan USC day. It was the Michigan USC day.
Jeremy Klump
It's been what? I've been above 500 ever since then. Right.
Will Compton
So not quite big.
Jeremy Klump
So I was doing real well.
Josh Pate
Throws up his finger. 2 and 3, 3 and 2, 1 and 4.
Jeremy Klump
Oh, I guess not. Josh, why don't you take this one? Since I know nothing clump about this game. Pit at number 16, Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's favored minus two and a half.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Total points in the game is 61 and a half. As an individual that has not looked in this game. And was it Narduzzi? His. His conversation the week they could beat us about 100. The only games that matter are these next two games. This is one of the two games that he says, these are all that matter. I hate that I would lean Georgia Tech to cover that in this situation. Do you want to talk me off that ledge?
Will Compton
No. I feel like we're going to be on a ledge no matter what. I mean, you're either taking the guy who mailed in a game last week, or you're taking a team that struggled to beat Boston College. Either way, it's bad. So we're looking for the least of the bad here. I have taken a completely different approach on this game. I could Bring you numbers. I could have. I could have, you know, written a little mind map, like a psychopath. Bunch of highlighter paper poppers that's getting me two and three every week. So, I mean, I'm in the mode where I want to go. Favorite mascot, favorite uniform colors. Do you play on turf or grass? Just coin flip. Yeah, because that's better than 2 and 3. As you know, I think there is a game out there for, like, Brent Key and Georgia Tech. They've just been, like, getting by.
Josh Pate
They've.
Will Compton
They've been, like, keeping their head above water, and I keep waiting for them to do, like, a poor man's version of what Georgia did last week. Georgia has been playing close games, and then all of a sudden, they just, like, like, hulked up on Texas. And I keep waiting for Georgia Tech to do, like, the ACC's version of that. It's like a middle school kid who first started working out and he's flexing in the mirror, and you're like, yeah. I mean, for a middle school kid, that looks good. That's kind of what I'm looking for.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, I'm just. I gotta get this thing elevated a little bit. Onward. Okay. I'm in hell.
Josh Pate
Taylor's staring at you, and he's doing his best to listen, but he's got so a war is happening in his head.
Jeremy Klump
There could be a whole clip made of my face just while you two are talking to me.
Will Compton
Being like, you didn't blink and your eyes started to water. That's why I smiled.
Jeremy Klump
I'm not okay, man. I'm so not okay that I'm locking my seat in place.
Will Compton
Yeah, no, I know how you feel. Like, I mildly strained my neck yesterday, so we're in the same.
Jeremy Klump
Dude. How shitty is a little neck kink, though? It's bad, but it ain't this.
Will Compton
Honestly, if we want to.
Jeremy Klump
It ain't this.
Will Compton
We'd love to take five minutes of the show and talk about it. Like, I don't. I'm not great either. Look at this. I'm not great either.
Jeremy Klump
You look great.
Will Compton
Yeah. Thank you, buddy. I'm taking Georgia Tech minus the points. I think they're going to middle school flex.
Jeremy Klump
All right.
Will Compton
Brent Key loves when you talk about them like that. Just. Just a solid middle school gym mirror flex here. You're still a little lean. You haven't had the chance for your metabolism to slow down. You don't have a gut or anything, but you're just. Just a little popcorn muscle. Flex here for Georgia Tech. That's the extent of my analysis on this game.
Josh Pate
I'll take pit. I'll take Pit. For me, I guess anything I wanted to know is that Narduzzi last week didn't matter to him. They were probably scripting practice plays for Georgia Tech because these games are all that matters. I'm taking Pitt because I want chaos in the acc. I want to beat up on the ACC fans when Pitt beats Georgia Tech. And then we have all these multiple loss teams and we can just sit here and I can yell from the top of the mountain that only Miami deserves to get in from the acc. So I'm going with Pitt. I'm going with chaos. And I like Pitt against a Georgia Tech team who struggled against Boston College. He struggled against Wake Forest. Who's Georgia Tech lost to?
Will Compton
Georgia Tech has lost to NC State.
Josh Pate
NC State. NC State. We know NC State. They're five and five. Like, what are we. What are we talking about?
Will Compton
They've beaten Virginia and Georgia Tech.
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Will Compton
Those are two of their wins.
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Josh Pate
Like, what are we doing here? Yeah, I'm taking Pitt.
Jeremy Klump
I'm taking Pitt. So Georgia Tech minus two and a half. Minus two and a half. Georgia Tech. Pit, Moneyline.
Josh Pate
Pit plus two and a half.
Jeremy Klump
That's what I've heard. Pit, Money line.
Josh Pate
Pit plus two and a half.
Jeremy Klump
Okay, so you don't. You want chaos, but not that bad.
Josh Pate
Yeah, listen. Pit plus two and a half. You know what? Fuck it. Go ahead. You can talk me.
Will Compton
No, no, no.
Josh Pate
What you need to do here.
Jeremy Klump
That actually.
Josh Pate
Money line.
Jeremy Klump
I just baited Will into that. It worked. But that's why Pit's gonna win this game. You did.
Josh Pate
And I knew the bait was out there, but I just grabbed the bait and I just. I just jumped. I jumped into your boat and I said, cut me the open, dude. This is exactly what I want.
Will Compton
Let me tell you. Who that doesn't work on is Pat Narduzzi. You're telling me this isn't a must win? That's exactly what I'm telling you.
Jeremy Klump
Dude.
Will Compton
You don't want this one. Not all that much.
Josh Pate
Speed is by 100. I don't give a. We're focused on Georgia Tech.
Jeremy Klump
That was that not the easiest bet of the week last week?
Will Compton
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Oh, my God.
Will Compton
Yeah, I didn't make it.
Jeremy Klump
But just that, like the fact that he's talking so big and if they really are scripting Georgia Tech plays, I hope they lose by multiple.
Will Compton
It may be like 240 at halft.
Jeremy Klump
Because what he's doing is essentially was your fear when they went to a 12 game.
Will Compton
Mockery of the game.
Jeremy Klump
The mockery of the game. Every game in college football is a must win and he made a mockery of you and your stance. And for that reason I got to stand with my voice. I'm a foxhole guy. Georgia Tech, Pitt, Money line.
Josh Pate
I'm just laughing because Peyton's like, yeah, I didn't bet it. And I'm just thinking free money.
Will Compton
Not for me.
Jeremy Klump
For everybody else though.
Josh Pate
Some of the bets I made over the weekend, like I didn't bet on. I took my unit from Broncos, Chiefs and put it. I doubled down on Detroit. I took Detroit Moneyline. Then I also took another side quest bet of Detroit -9 and a half just for just where they're going to win by double digits. So I'm just sitting there like, God damn it. Got gutted against the Eagles.
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Will Compton
Hey everyone, Ed Helms here and hi, I'm Kal Penn and we're the hosts of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice.
Josh Pate
This is not a trick question.
Will Compton
There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?
Jeremy Klump
You know what?
Josh Pate
I can see you as an Mr. Darcy.
Jeremy Klump
You got a little call in first.
Josh Pate
Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett.
Will Compton
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Jeremy Klump
Stop before you drag yourself to that coffee pot. Tomorrow morning, try this instead. Tonight, fill a shaker with water, add one scoop of early bird and put it on your nightstand. When your Alarm screams at 5am, drink it first. What happens next will shock you. Your brain doesn't gradually wake up, it switches on, the fog vanishes. You're not surviving your morning, you're conquering it.
Will Compton
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Jeremy Klump
Than a thousand night owls into morning warriors this week alone. Get yours@clubearlybird.com and use code NeversNews for 20% off. This next game is never 20. Tennessee at the Swamp at Florida. I would love to hear from our number one Florida fan, Jeremy Klump on his views in this game. And then quickly after that, we'll turn to Jack McPherson.
Josh Pate
I'll go quick. This is Florida Moneyline all day to show Lane Kiffin that it's time to.
Will Compton
Come home and come to Florida.
Josh Pate
Florida Moneyline. Florida recently lost Jack Tennessee at the Swamp Eerie time.
Jeremy Klump
The last time the balls beat the Gators in the swamp, the iPhone did not exist. Nick Saban had never coached a game in Alabama. Facebook was still strictly for college kids. But the one thing that separates this game is that Florida now has the worst possible fan that has tagged along. Jeremy Klump. I truly think Jeremy Klump will be the fallen demise of the Florida Gators. But it's a really scary one. Vol's struggle in the swamp historically. So I just hope to God that we can get out of there alive. But I do think clump's gonna truly them over. So. Yeah.
Josh Pate
I was ready for Jack Dang with a banger there. He had me locked in on everything he was saying.
Jeremy Klump
I mean he did.
Josh Pate
I hope to God we get out of there surviving. Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
That is interesting. They haven't won a game in the swamp since before the iPhone 2003. Last time Tennessee won in the swamp. They play every year. Yeah. Oh my God.
Will Compton
He just looked up.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh Pate
I honestly, I have no idea where to go. I want to say this whole streak is going to get broken with Tennessee, but Florida just weirdly pops up out of nowhere, out of nowhere. At the most random times. The times where it's like, oh, they're a wounded animal. I love wounded animals. Oh, they're dead. I love dead animals. Now it's like, okay, they're officially dead animals. I'm gonna get off of it, because they're officially dead. Then they win.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Josh Pate
Then they pop one. They keep it close against Georgia. I have no clue what the. DJ Lagway, he gets benched. He comes out, he has a game.
Will Compton
I don't know the beautiful thing about these. First off, did you make a pick?
Josh Pate
No.
Will Compton
No, you did not make a pick.
Jeremy Klump
I'll make a pick. I'm going. Tennessee minus three and a half. We gotta understand, like, we live in Nashville, Tennessee. A lot of fans here. I know there's more Vanderbilt fans popping up now, but for the most part, it's Tennessee. At some point, you got to be getting the foxhole with these guys and just say, enough is enough. I think Jeremy Klump and his fandom, the way he's gone about his fandom, is enough to finally change all of that. This whole year we've kind of waited, like, we've wanted Tennessee to get one. Alabama, Oklahoma, like, we're just like, hey, we gotta. We gotta get one. And this is the one, dude. This is the one that's going to happen. Florida going against a bad Tennessee secondary. But DJ Lagway, he's as inconsistent as they come. So I'm going to. I'm going to go with Tennessee. Tennessee has a very unique, great defensive game through the year. They have a unique, great defensive game. So I'm going to take Tennessee. This is going to be. This is going to be a big win for them. The. The talk about hypo possibly should be gone in Tennessee is.
Will Compton
Oh, no.
Jeremy Klump
So blasphemous to me. That is crazy. Especially the world we're living in right now.
Will Compton
Allegedly, it hasn't really been said. That's what the message board's talking about.
Jeremy Klump
Allegedly, it hasn't.
Will Compton
It hasn't really been said. I imagined reading that in my email inbox. I imagined that and people.
Jeremy Klump
But have you heard a whisper at all?
Will Compton
I've heard more than whispers. Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Wow. But it has not been said.
Will Compton
It's been said by psychos. I'm just saying psychos exist like those. It's not. It is a minority of the fan base, but it's not a 1%. It's not a 1%. Maybe like a 5%.
Jeremy Klump
This is.
Josh Pate
Do you think more middle of America rational brains start to think about or start to get involved in that conversation. If they lose to Florida, could lose.
Will Compton
To Vandy the next week too. Yeah, this is an important stretch for them.
Jeremy Klump
Extremely.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
I mean these next two games, they haven't won the Swamp since 2003 and they got to go play Vandy who's hot and still in the playoff picture. And still in the playoff picture. Yeah, I'm going to go Tennessee. Makes the next week that much better. Makes that much more exciting. I'm going to go Tennessee minus three and a half.
Will Compton
If you're out of the playoff race, which Tennessee is, there's always the risk of, you know, your players mail in the season. I'm not saying this is a Tennessee problem. This is like a college football problem. The reason I love them to stay dialed in is because if I'm out of the playoff picture, it's so great for me that I've got two rivalry games as my last two games because that's the best shot I've got of keeping my locker room dialed in. Like, we're not going to make the playoff. We could go down to Florida and do something no Tennessee team has done in over two decades and then we could like just clown stomp our little in state neighbor over in Nashville and knock them out of the playoff. That's a lot of reason to stay bought in. I think that's going to work. Hypo's a really good coach. I think they're going to go down there and the old version of me, the 2 and 3 version of me would have picked Florida here. 2 and 3 version of me overthinks the room hadn't won down there and you're giving me three and a half points. I can even lose last second field go. I could lose like, like Tennessee did to Georgia. I could lose and still cover. Nope, nope. We're going to win by seven or more. So give me Tennessee to win. Tennessee to cover.
Josh Pate
I'll jump in with you guys. Gbo. Gbo minus three and a half clump, eight week club, eight week clump eight.
Jeremy Klump
Week club, eight week. Caring about me. Go to the hospital. You might be.
Will Compton
You might be septic. I'm gonna save your life.
Jeremy Klump
I care about you. You're a good person. Whatever, dude. Eat shit, dude. Tennessee's beating your ass this week.
Josh Pate
We got BYU, ranked 11 in the country, going out to Cincinnati. BYU favored by two and a half. The over under on this game is 54 and a half. Does Cincinnati have a shot? Cincinnati gotta derail BYU season. The last two games has been bad.
Jeremy Klump
They played Arizona, lost that game. BYU played Arizona. BYU beat them and then they got destroyed by utah. Was it 4114.
Will Compton
It was ugly.
Jeremy Klump
It was ugly. Ugly.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Dude.
Josh Pate
Ben Sorsby wasn't looking good.
Jeremy Klump
One looking good.
Josh Pate
I think his name's Brendan, but it's Ben now.
Jeremy Klump
I just think. I just think BYU is a more consistent team. They got. They got their ass beat by Texas Tech. I think they want to get their ass beat again by Texas Tech.
Will Compton
Absolutely.
Jeremy Klump
They do big 12. So I'm going to go BYU mysterant. They have more to play for. I mean, see what you want about American Primeval, that's a well coached team. They don't make a whole lot of mistakes. Cincinnati is, you know, very flashy at times. Sorsby, Sorsby, very flashy at times. But I like BYU -2 and a half here.
Josh Pate
I'm taking the over. Over 54 and a half. I'm looking points, primetime game, a lot on the line. Yeah. My boy Ben Soarsby, he's been kind of rattled the last two weeks. I'll see a get back game here because he went on a run there. He was what, over 2,000. A billion touchdowns.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Josh Pate
So he gets back to that form a little bit. Just enough to get the over. I do think BYU wins this game. I like offense. I like offense. Night game in Cincinnati.
Will Compton
The old me rides with you. Not on the total, but on Cincinnati. The old me thinks, all right, so you've disappointed. This is a double doo up spot in gambling terms. Brigham Young's always been a little overrated. Point spreads versus what they're ranked. But you know what the Model did this week for the first time? The model, the JP poll introduced Brigham Young at number 17. They haven't been in the Model all year. They hadn't been in the JP Poll all year. I just think. Say what you want about American Primeval, this is a hard nose squad.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
It's tough to sell on them. And so old me, two and three me is going Cincinnati. But the new me, the four and one this week version of me, perhaps five and oh, is going to go. Brigham Young lay the points on the road. Dangerous spot. Prime time in Cincinnati. It was the last team that won a primetime game in Cincinnati's home stadium. Don't know. We don't. Has it ever happened? We don't know it's going to happen this week, though.
Josh Pate
I don't know, man.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
No one loves BYU football like I do. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, that's well documented.
Jeremy Klump
Say what you want about American Primeval good ball.
Josh Pate
What kind of look in the mirror do you feel like your model did to get on board with byu?
Will Compton
I think last week was the most impressive game they've had all year. They beat Utah. But I'm not. I'm not making excuses here. I'm saying from a predictive standpoint, like from a modeling standpoint, when you're plus 2 in the turnover battle, a predictive model looks at that and says, good for you. That's not necessarily the best indication you're going to duplicate that moving forward. But then they went to Iowa State. I think they were like plus four turnovers, plus three turnovers. A predictive model still looks at that. This is why BYU fans get so mad at the modeling crowd, because BYU is so good at winning games and winning the turnover battle. And yet the predictive modeling and the point spread crowd, they don't fully respect it. Last week they got TCU in their home building. The line was three and a half and they just smoked them. There was nothing fluky about it. I'm not saying the other results were fluky. I'm saying even from a predictive standpoint, they just took Utah or TCU and Vice gripped them. So last week's result from a modeling standpoint was actually the most authentic, true dominant performance that a computer will have seen them have all year. That's why all of a sudden, like, they're in number 17 and they go on the road here and they're still favored. Like, people look at this and think it's a small point spread. A couple of weeks ago, BYU was projected to be a point spread underdog in this game at Cincinnati. That's. So things have changed in the last couple of weeks.
Josh Pate
New flavor of BYU right now.
Will Compton
And you say what you want about American Primeval. It's not easy to go on the road and win in the Big 12.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Will Compton
And they've done it.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah. I'm 1 and 2 betting against BYU. This is the first one I bet for BYU. I'm excited to see how it turns out. I'm excited to see how it all turns out.
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Jeremy Klump
Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting.
Will Compton
Down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night how to Be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?
Josh Pate
So I have two microphones on stage.
Will Compton
We have the microphone that you hear as the audience.
Josh Pate
Then we have a second microphone in.
Will Compton
Which we communicate with the audience, each other.
Jeremy Klump
I feel like that second microphone kind.
Josh Pate
Of saved all of our friendships. No, no band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. Like the Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.
Will Compton
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Jeremy Klump
Stop before you drag yourself to that coffee pot tomorrow morning. Try this instead. Tonight, fill a shaker with water, add one scoop of early bird and put it on your nightstand. When your Alarm screams at 5am Drink it first. What happens next will shock you. Your brain doesn't gradually wake up, it switches on, the fog vanishes. You're not surviving your morning, you're conquering it.
Will Compton
This blood orange mimosa ritual turned more.
Jeremy Klump
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Josh Pate
USC at Oregon. Going out to Eugene, Oregon. Lincoln Riley versus Dan Laning, Oregon's favorite in this game, by nine and a half. The over under on this game, the total in points is 59 and a half. Our boy Dane Laning's in. Another big one, fellas. Another big one.
Will Compton
Josh, I don't want to start.
Jeremy Klump
You don't want to start?
Will Compton
I want to defer.
Jeremy Klump
Okay.
Will Compton
Can I defer?
Josh Pate
You can defer. Do you want to go?
Jeremy Klump
You want me to go?
Josh Pate
I mean, we. We know. We know. I feel like we know where we're going.
Jeremy Klump
Where are you going?
Josh Pate
Oregon.
Jeremy Klump
To cover.
Josh Pate
Yeah, of course. Like, I'm riding with the Oregon Ducks.
Jeremy Klump
I'm going USC plus nine and a half. Oh, no. I think Oregon wins this game. I think I.
Josh Pate
So there doesn't. We don't even need to talk there. There are. There is no messaging out there of the talking for Dan Lanning.
Jeremy Klump
It's.
Josh Pate
It's happening right now.
Jeremy Klump
It's not happening. It's like, what have we done to get to this point? Northwestern, we picked them to cover. They didn't cover. Indiana, we picked them to cover. They lost.
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Iowa, we picked them to cover. They didn't cover. So for me, I think Oregon, the most surprising thing to me was when I'm looking up stats last night is seeing them as far as like yards per attempt when it comes to the rush. Like 6.7 or something. Like, they are like top three. Jesus Christ. These guys, the 6. 7. I think USC. Jordan Mailata, left tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles, he won't be playing that game, but Jaden Mayava, he will be playing in this game. I think those two wide receivers, they're explosive enough and they handle business enough to keep this game within one score. I believe the Ducks win this game, but I'm going to take USC +9/2. Both these teams are sitting in A have to have a situation.
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Because there's especially usc.
Josh Pate
A lot of the college football world saying if Oregon drops this game, they could be out of the college football playoff as a two loss Big Ten team.
Jeremy Klump
And Dan knows that no one's gonna have their team more prepared than Dan Lanning. I think usc.
Josh Pate
Well, I think you're saying he'll have them prepared enough but not to cover.
Jeremy Klump
Oh yeah, that's exactly. He'll have them prepared enough. I mean, this whole year has been Oregon almost covering for us. We've done 13 shows on college football and I think they've been a part of the show six or seven times. Yep. However, I think they've only covered one or two of those.
Josh Pate
You have a question mark with Dan and covering for us.
Jeremy Klump
I have a question mark with Dan covering for us. And it's not me hating, it's the proof and proofs in the pudding like I have.
Josh Pate
You are what you are. Your record against the spread with us. You are what you are.
Jeremy Klump
Week 13. Like you expect me for you to be different now. I would love to be wrong in the situation. We're streaming the game this Saturday. We're having a nice little breakfast stream on Saturday. You're more than. Well, you're. You're traveling breakfast stream. I will be rooting for Oregon. If they cover nine and a half, I'll. I'm happy to have that as my one when I go four and one this week. When we go four and one this week.
Will Compton
Right.
Jeremy Klump
But I'll be taking. I'm taking USC to keep this game close. This game is extremely important to both teams, like win or go home type of situation on both these teams. And I think it's close. I think it's exciting. I think Oregon Ducks come out with it, but I think it's close.
Will Compton
Do you, do you know what this is?
Jeremy Klump
That's a piece of paper.
Josh Pate
We got paper.
Will Compton
Do you think this paper tells the truth or do you think it's lying? Let me tell you what the paper says. It's unfair for me to force you to answer before I tell you. Oregon's got the number one pass defense in the country. Is it lying or is it telling the truth? Because last week Pitt had the number three run defense in the country and it was right. So is this paper lying or is it telling the truth?
Josh Pate
I'm trying to rattle through everybody that they played. It could be more of a fluff that to me. When you say number one past defense in the country, that reminds me of Nebraska Going into the big gameplay, when we played some. I was going to say some Ducks, but some duds.
Will Compton
Could I give you some context? Five of the seven Power 4 offenses Oregon has faced have been 100th or worse in pass offense. Paper could be lying.
Jeremy Klump
Paper could be lying.
Will Compton
If it's lying. I got a kid by the name of Lemon, I got a kid by the name of Lane who could come in there and do everything that Surratt and Cooper did. You said no one prepares their team better than Dan Lanning. Kurt Signetti did. They went into Austin and handled him pretty thoroughly.
Josh Pate
Oh, wow. This is just. This is all Dan Lanning fodder right here.
Jeremy Klump
You know, Dan watches the show and the tone you're having right now about our boy Strong.
Josh Pate
Hey, keep going.
Will Compton
Here's the problem. The problem is it's not going to rain in this game, so something's got to get him dialed in. I am a guest of his this weekend. Okay? I will be there Friday. I will be there Saturday. This is nothing I won't say to his face, but they got their pants undone. Just yanked down against Indiana in Austin Stadium. It's not supposed to happen. Has anyone ever won in Austin Stadium? I don't think so.
Jeremy Klump
I don't think so.
Will Compton
It's the first home loss they've ever had. Problem is Surratt and Cooper went in there and had 15 catches for 179 and a score. Begs the question, aren't they facing a better wide receiver combo this week than Indiana had? But the follow up, this is where, like, Dan understands you got to tear him down to build him back up. He understands that more so than anybody.
Jeremy Klump
Absolutely.
Will Compton
The follow up to that is we've watched USC go on the road this year. We watched him go on the road against Illinois and Illinois ran it for a hefty amount, 171. We watched USC go on the road against Notre Dame. Notre Dame handled him. USC went to Nebraska and won. But what was the situation before Dylan Raiola went down?
Josh Pate
Nebraska was on top. You know, Dan Laning's in there right now watching that Nebraska defense. Listen, don't get gashed in the run like we got gashed in the run. But to kind of shut down the passing attack. Iowa held him to under 30. I said that USC was going to score 40.
Will Compton
Oregon last year went wire to wire, number one seed and they end up getting the first round by. It didn't matter. They got smashed in the playoffs. And Ohio State, conversely, peaked at the end of the year and won it all. And I've said to you guys for like six weeks in a row, Oregon, yeah, they look flawed, but they keep winning. People are a little critical of them. We've been mildly critical at times. But I keep saying, you don't give up on a team like that. Just like Georgia, you don't give up on a team that's got that much roster talent because if they rev the engine at the right time, you see the best version of them at the right time. Georgia just did this against Texas. I got a strong suspicion that Oregon's about to do this against USC and against Washington and then they go into the postseason and do whatever they're going to do. But it's the ground game combined with maybe getting healthy at wide receiver at the right time. Keep an eye on the wide receiver health at Oregon and the inability to scale on the road like USC has at home. I think Oregon's going to win and cover. No repeat of the Indiana game here. And it was my fault because I wasn't there for the Indiana game. But we will not make the same mistake twice. Looks like partly cloudy to mostly cloudy. We're not looking at rain gear. We're just looking at just normal, good old fashioned. Let's wake up at 3am let's pound seven Red Bulls and let's go get a win against the Trojans. That's the style of game.
Jeremy Klump
What are you wearing for this game?
Will Compton
I don't know yet.
Josh Pate
Like, are we gonna get a full cotton? Are you gonna, Are you gonna dump a bucket of water on you before the game?
Will Compton
I did plan on, in a show of solidarity, wearing cotton, wearing something that's absorbent. If it were gonna rain. As it stands now, Kenny Farr, you guys know Kenny, the opponent.
Josh Pate
We know Kenny.
Will Compton
Love Kenny, friend of the program. As it stands now, what I like to do is I like to go to Oregon on a Friday, walk in like a straight up hobo wearing tattered clothes. Cause he'll give you a new wardrobe and so he will probably decide what I wear on Saturday.
Jeremy Klump
I love that. Yeah.
Josh Pate
Basically what this show is saying about the Oregon Ducks, if Dan Laning happens to be watching. But when is Dan Laning and the Oregon Ducks gonna wake the fuck up and earn their right to be in this College Football Playoff? People are saying that if they drop this game, they're out of the College Football Playoff. Like they will be squeezed out based on their schedule, based on people out there talking. The Iowa win meant nothing when they were ranked when they beat Penn State and they Were top five. It meant nothing.
Will Compton
Think about this. This game is Alabama, Oklahoma. Last week, Oklahoma goes to Tuscaloosa. Bama's ranked kind of sort of where Oregon is. Oklahoma was ranked kind of sort of where USC is right now. That was a close game. Oklahoma didn't blow them out. That was a close game. Bama dropped seven spots from like three to 10. If we get a duplicate of that drop, Oregon drops out of the playoff bubble. If they lose this game with no guarantee that they can jump back in. So I think what the show is trying to say, if I'm hearing you correctly, is we believe in Oregon, we believe in Dan Lanning. But don't embarrass us.
Josh Pate
Yeah, don't embarrass us.
Jeremy Klump
Don't embarrass us.
Will Compton
Don't embarrass, embarrass us.
Josh Pate
Great shows, Great show.
Jeremy Klump
Dogs of the week. I'm gonna take Mississippi State plus nine and a half versus Ole Miss. A lot of conversation about Lane Kiffin. He goes on Pat McAfee show yesterday. There's a whole thing about, hey, we gonna go, we're not gonna go. He kind of dodges and moves around.
Will Compton
Yeah. One thing we know about that interview, that was fully authentic. There was nothing performative at all about that.
Jeremy Klump
100%.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
That's what they do over there.
Will Compton
Absolutely.
Jeremy Klump
But I'll take Mississippi State plus nine and a half. William.
Josh Pate
Dogs of the week. Nebraska is double digit underdogs going into Happy Valley and Penn State. Now they're nine and a half point underdogs. Nebraska. That is my dog of the week. DJ Lateef coming off a bye week going into Happy Valley, Nebraska.
Jeremy Klump
Now I know that there was, there were cameras in your faces before this show started. Dylan Raiola, his brother decommitted to Nebraska. Now a lot of Nebraska fans are saying he wouldn't have played there anyway. Does that say anything for maybe a Dylan Raiola leaving Nebraska or is that not even worth talking about?
Josh Pate
I have no clue. I don't have a whole lot of information on the situation at hand. So I have no comment, okay? I have no comment until I learn, you know, until I furthermore learn about the situation.
Jeremy Klump
Biggest mistake you can make is just saying shit. Yeah, yeah.
Will Compton
What I've always respected about you is you really keep yourself at an arm's length from Nebraska football. You really don't involve yourself much.
Jeremy Klump
Will does a great job not making it about him.
Will Compton
Absolutely, absolutely.
Josh Pate
Listen, when I came in and the paparazzi, everybody was in my face, you know, I'm learning about it. I was learning about that for the first time. So I truly, I have no clue if I like, if it's not Dylan Raola's brother and it's just Dayton Raola and he decommits from Nebraska. I'm thinking the old boy, he's watching TJ Lateef play. Like, that'll eventually be the future when Dylan Raola is gone. Like when Dylan Raola wins us a national title with the Huskers and then goes on to the NFL, it's going to be T.J. lateef's team. He doesn't seem. Dayton seems like a ball player, a baller who could be a starter somewhere. Maybe he doesn't want to compete. I have no clue. Again, I don't know a whole lot about the situation.
Jeremy Klump
The more we talk about, the more we dig ourselves as a hole.
Josh Pate
I don't think we're digging ourselves in a hole. I'm just trying to compartmentalize and separate it and be like, yeah, look, it seems like he decommitted. You can't trust anything these commits are saying these days. Right now, Nebraska's got like a top five recruiting class in the country for 2027. But I'm not buying any of that stock because we're what, we're a couple years away, literally. Yeah. You just said Daden Raiola doesn't like to compete. That's why I said Dick and Raolo, I said maybe. Maybe he doesn't want to compete. I don't know.
Will Compton
A lot of G5 teams out there in need of a quarterback.
Jeremy Klump
So you go Huskers money line.
Josh Pate
Yeah, I'm personally going Huskers money line. But for dog of the week in the segment, I do have, like, just for the people, but everybody knows that. Everybody knows Willie C's going money line. Unless if I'm going to ride with Willie C, I'll just get in the foxhole. But with nine and a half points points.
Will Compton
Model loves Penn State. This week I'm going rice plus 18 and a half against North Texas.
Jeremy Klump
Nice.
Will Compton
Yeah, don't lose to food is one of the big rules in college football. But if food is an 18 and a half point dog, you can beat them. Therefore, not losing to food, but still not cover North Texas. Eric Morris is up for big jobs right now. I've just been making bank betting against coaches that are involved in coaching searches that continues here. Rice plus 18 and a half. You have something to say?
Josh Pate
If you're gonna shoot me in the face, I want you to look at.
Will Compton
Me when you do.
Josh Pate
I don't want you to say a jeb. And I want you just stare at him the whole time while I'm sitting here bleeding.
Will Compton
I could have put it there, but I didn't. I could have put Penn State on this sheet, but I didn't.
Josh Pate
You should have.
Will Compton
I did that for you. I don't want to dig us a hole.
Josh Pate
You just did.
Jeremy Klump
You know what's up is you said, oh, I did this for you. The parlay I could have done. I didn't do this for you, but two weeks ago in Purdue, you did that to me.
Will Compton
Remind me who covered in that game.
Jeremy Klump
Purdue. But we're talking about respect. We're talking about. I'm not gonna do this to you, Will. And I'm sitting there like, well, shit, 14 days ago he did that to me.
Will Compton
But what you're not telling the folks is last week I walked in the building and you were talking about Northwestern and I said, northwestern's cover. Michigan's gonna win. Northwestern's gonna cover.
Jeremy Klump
What do you think's gonna happen this week against Maryland?
Will Compton
No, no, no. I think you're gonna run it up on Maryland. No, it's different this weekend.
Jeremy Klump
Oh, really? Because I'm ready to sit there and be like, I think Maryland's gonna come.
Josh Pate
I was gonna say Michigan wins. Like, what are they giving? What are they giving us?
Jeremy Klump
I don't think. I think it's covered this entire year.
Will Compton
No, this week they're going to cover.
Jeremy Klump
Just wait till we get to our final Bite segment. Dude, I got something for that.
Josh Pate
Michigan's going to play like Michigan. And then it's Ohio State week.
Jeremy Klump
And then it's Ohio State.
Josh Pate
Yeah.
Jeremy Klump
Then it's a completely different Michigan is sleepwalking. Do you have any teams since 1940 have won a football game being -5 in turnovers?
Will Compton
Was. Was SMU one of them against Duke last year?
Jeremy Klump
No, they weren't. Because the 000 -5. -5. Wow.
Josh Pate
You can't wait to.
Will Compton
I just gotta. I just remember SMU had some crazy game last week or last year.
Jeremy Klump
Exactly. Minus five. Maybe they had minus six. But a minus five.
Will Compton
Oh, exactly.
Josh Pate
Could have been much.
Jeremy Klump
No team has one.
Will Compton
Clean minus five.
Jeremy Klump
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Will Compton
Two touchdown favorite over the bigger school.
Jeremy Klump
And then their argument is you saw Washington State. What they did to Ole Miss. What they almost did to Ole Miss.
Will Compton
Close.
Jeremy Klump
This close. Yeah, two touchdowns. I'm taking them.
Josh Pate
Washington minus ten and a half at ucla.
Jeremy Klump
Wasn't it fun to root for UCLA.
Josh Pate
For a little bit for a couple weeks? Yeah. What were they, 30 with the they were undefeated when they made the change.
Jeremy Klump
They were undefeated.
Will Compton
Had a good little run there.
Josh Pate
Had a good run. Fun running.
Will Compton
For one or two weeks. The sentence you don't want to play UCLA right now was uttered. Yeah, not on this show per se, but it was uttered. I would like to take western Kentucky plus 22 and a half at LSU for the same reason I like Tennessee against Florida. I will gladly bet you if you're walking into someone's backyard where the main focal point of conversation is who's going to coach that team next year. The entire purpose of Tiger Stadium Saturday is for people to gather together and talk about who their head coach is going to be. They don't even care about Western Kentucky. Yes. So I'll take WKU plus 22 and a half WKU.
Josh Pate
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Will Compton
Not a grenade per se. Here's what I think. I think if I were a coach right now, if I were Eli Drinkowitz, if I were Lane Kiffin, if I were John Sumrall, any of these guys who were up for a head coaching job elsewhere, there's no way I would stand in there and let people criticize me right now. If I were an athletic director, I would not take a second of criticism because I would say it's not my fault that our calendar looks the way it does. I'm not the one who made signing day the first week of December and the portal window open early January and not able to rework the academic calendar where we couldn't put signing day in February and the portal opens after the national championship game. Because if that changed, not everyone would be in a hurry to fire coaches and rehire them in late November right now. So someone came and made the mess and then they walked away. Like someone threw you in the pool and now you're getting criticized for being wet. That's not Lane Kiffin's fault. Like, you don't have to like Lane Kiffin. You don't have to like John Sumrall or Eli Drinkworth. I don't care what you think about them. But those guys are getting criticized for being put in an absolute no win position. Like, unless you plan on staying at one program your entire life. And for everyone out there who says you should, don't ever tell me that if you've changed jobs, if you've taken an advancement opportunity, don't ever criticize someone else for at least listening to the opportunity or at least listening to the pitch. So right now these guys are getting criticized. The agencies do a woeful job of PR and crisis management training. Like, I would love to insert myself and just say, here's what you ought to say. Don't stand there and take this. That's a reporter from Topeka and he's throwing grenades at you because he never has to show his face. And he understands that, like, you know, the clapping seals of his readership are going to lap it up. Don't stand there and take that. You're not the one who made the calendar the way it is. So I don't know if that qualifies as an extra bite, but that's where I am.
Josh Pate
That's a great bite. I'm going to say that's a great bite.
Jeremy Klump
TJ Lateef does what?
Josh Pate
250.
Will Compton
250 total or passing?
Josh Pate
250 passing.
Will Compton
250 passing.
Josh Pate
250 passing.
Will Compton
Passing.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah.
Josh Pate
No, no, no, no, no, no. Emmett Johnson over 200 yards on the.
Will Compton
Ground are both going to happen.
Jeremy Klump
Do both.
Josh Pate
Emmett Johnson over 200 yards on the ground and I'll say TJ Lateef over 200 yards through the air. Because if Emmett Johnson's going to eat, he's not going to have as many opportunities on the ball around.
Will Compton
This is on the road at Penn State.
Josh Pate
On the road at Penn State. Nebraska upset. Upsets Penn State. Happy Valley. Which to me it doesn't feel like an upset. Has Penn State won a conference game yet?
Jeremy Klump
Yet?
Josh Pate
I don't think they have.
Will Compton
I'm sure they've won a conference game somewhere.
Josh Pate
Did they win last week?
Will Compton
Yeah, they beat Michigan State last week.
Josh Pate
Oh, they beat Michigan State last. There you go. They're one in whatever like this.
Jeremy Klump
But you guys also beat Michigan State. So it's like.
Will Compton
That's right.
Josh Pate
Yeah. We're 7 and 3 Penn State.
Jeremy Klump
Northwestern beat Northwestern. Beat Penn State. You beat Northwestern.
Josh Pate
Yeah, I, I don't see how we're double digit underdogs.
Jeremy Klump
Yeah, me either.
Josh Pate
But you're right. Like tomato, tomato. DJ Latif 200. Emmett Johnson 200.
Jeremy Klump
Final bite. I'll stay with my alma mater as well like you did. And Jordan Marshall out against Maryland. Justin Hayes, Justice Hayes, he is now out for the entire season. Multiple guys hurt on defense. Bryce Underwood, if you just look at the stat line, you don't watch the entire game of Michigan. That was probably his best game. He played aside from the two interceptions. Like he was had touch on the ball, was pushing it down the field. You can see him doing reads when he got into a situation, when he got into situations, he would run and gained the first down. Bryce Underwood throws for his first 300 yard game against Maryland this week. And they win the game through the air.
Will Compton
Wow. A lot of people seem to be doing it against Maryland.
Jeremy Klump
Onward.
Josh Pate
A lot of people.
Jeremy Klump
So you think Maryland, you think Michigan covers against Maryland? Yeah, I need that.
Will Compton
Yeah, it's like, it's like just rev the engine right before the Fanduel has the Ohio State Michigan line at 12 and a half by the way, you.
Josh Pate
Can bet, you can bet it right?
Will Compton
Iron bowl Bama minus five and a half. Terrifying. But the game, Ohio State minus 12.
Jeremy Klump
And a half, that's huge.
Will Compton
But they're, but they're within, they're within reach. All you gotta do is grab them by the short collar. Drag them in minus 12 and a half.
Josh Pate
I did. I do feel like it would have been longer.
Jeremy Klump
Longer.
Will Compton
It was three touchdowns last year.
Jeremy Klump
Michigan is a much better team than they were last year. Ohio State maybe the same. Maybe they're better on defense, they're worse on offense. It balances each other out.
Will Compton
Not to start the game preview a week early.
Josh Pate
Not to start the game preview.
Jeremy Klump
That being said in Michigan Moneyline and we'll see if I have some foxhole guys with me next week that you will see.
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Episode Title: Josh Pate & Will Compton Love Oregon Over USC + Taylor Lewan Rides With Oklahoma Over Missouri
Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan, Jeremy Klump
Guest: Josh Pate
Theme: Week 13 college football breakdown, behind-the-scenes college football playoff debate, and high-energy pick 'em banter with a focus on pivotal matchups and playoff chaos.
This episode delivers a deep dive into the Week 13 college football slate, centering on big matchups such as Missouri vs. Oklahoma and USC vs. Oregon. The hosts engage with guest Josh Pate to debate College Football Playoff implications, explain the sometimes baffling ranking processes, and share personal, often hilarious, anecdotes. As always, the Boys supply a blend of football analysis and authentic locker room camaraderie.
Jeremy on physical pain:
“I go to get out of bed and I stand up, and I just fall to the ground… I crawl on all, like, my hands and knees to the bathroom to go and take a piss…” (06:02)
Will on the playoff process:
“My problem is not with the process. If you thoroughly explain the process. They’re terrible at explaining the process.” (13:04)
Josh on playoff chaos:
“If [Alabama] win the game and they’re not put in the top four, you greatly diluted the value of your conference title game.” (27:03)
Taylor (on Oklahoma/Mizzou):
“This is a crowbar theory type. That could happen in this game where Missouri walks in, their hopes and dreams of a playoff is over, and quickly they find out that this defense is really good…” (36:41)
Will (on the risk of a 24-team playoff):
“If you move to 24… think about the urgency that is removed from that Texas Georgia game last week. The best commodity college football has… is regular season games.” (24:21)
The show is relentlessly conversational, irreverent, and self-deprecating—equal parts dead-serious football talk and tongue-in-cheek banter. The hosts riff, roast, and rally together, never wasting a chance for a punchline:
In Short:
This episode is high-spirited, analytical, and full of inside jokes—perfect for passionate college football fans wanting both news-you-can-use and camaraderie you can laugh along with. Ducks fans, pay attention: the Boys are (nervously) all in on Oregon over USC.