Mike Vrabel On Leaving Titans, Drake Maye's Rookie Journey + Mack Hollins Goes Barefoot | Bussin'

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bussin' With The Boys - Episode: Mike Vrabel On Leaving Titans, Drake May's Rookie Journey + Mack Hollins Goes Barefoot

Release Date: August 5, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan
Guests: Mike Vrabel, Drake May, Robert Spillane, Jack, and others

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1. Training Camp Tour Kickoff

The episode begins with Taylor Lewan announcing the commencement of their training camp tour, with the first stop at the New England Patriots. The team is joined by notable Patriots' figures, including Drake May, Matt Collins, Robert Spillane, and Mike Vrabel.

Taylor Lewan [01:30]:
"We got Drake May, Matt Collins, Robert Spillane, and Mike Vrabel himself. He comes back on what is now known as a pseudo bus."

2. FanDuel Promotion and Team Dynamics

Will Compton introduces a promotion for FanDuel Sportsbook, highlighting daily profit boost tokens available for MLB betting. The hosts express appreciation for FanDuel's support, especially during the offseason.

Will Compton [03:02]:
"FanDuel is dropping profit boost tokens. We're talking Monday through Sunday, no breaks, no days off."

Taylor Lewan [05:15]:
"The summer is we're in the peak summer. Not a whole lot of sports going on. And for them to give a profit boost token like that at a time like this."

3. Interview with Mike Vrabel: Transition to Patriots Head Coach

Mike Vrabel shares his experiences transitioning from the Tennessee Titans to becoming the head coach of the New England Patriots. He discusses the challenges and opportunities in building a new team culture, emphasizing flexibility, consistency, and player development.

Mike Vrabel [05:05]:
"When you're trying to set the culture around our effort and the way that we finish, you know, I think Taylor will remember. It's hard to finish when you're playing, looking back for the ball or you're directing traffic and all those things we talk about."

Vrabel highlights the importance of support systems, player accountability, and maintaining high standards despite differences in personalities.

Mike Vrabel [84:09]:
"I've learned that we can have different personalities, we can have different mentalities, and sometimes... if the mentality is the same, how they maybe act off the field or what their personality is or they may not be. You know, I would say that we all kind of have this similar personality. Pretty close."

4. Drake May's Rookie Journey: From Undrafted to Patriots

Drake May recounts his journey from being an undrafted linebacker to securing a spot with the New England Patriots. He discusses the emotional and professional challenges he faced, including being cut from teams, persevering through practice squads, and finally earning his place.

Drake May [129:04]:
"I'm coming to be part of the Patriots. I wanted to get back with Coach Vrabel. I knew what type of person he is, willing to lay his life on the line for his players."

May emphasizes the importance of resilience and having a chip on his shoulder, which motivated him to keep pushing despite setbacks.

Drake May [137:23]:
"Without a doubt. I wanted answers. I wanted... I felt like I was wronged. I felt like I had the ability and the capabilities to one day be a successful player in this league."

5. Team Culture and Player Interactions

The hosts delve into the intricacies of team culture, sharing anecdotes about interactions with coaches and players. They highlight the balance between maintaining professionalism and fostering camaraderie.

Taylor Lewan [08:43]:
"How thankful are you that you were not out in this heat at training camp?"

Taylor Lewan [09:49]:
"It's about embracing the suck together. It's like, yeah, I sit here now, I'm on a bus. Our air conditioning is working. That's new. But it's like... our life is amazing."

6. Upcoming Events and Live Show Promotion

Will and Taylor promote their upcoming live show scheduled for September 19th at the Rococo Theater in Lincoln, Nebraska, titled "Bus and Bowl." They encourage listeners to attend, promising an engaging experience alongside special guests.

Will Compton [18:19]:
"Tickets are on sale right now at rococo theater.com. Tickets are live and on sale. Go buy them up."

Taylor Lewan [20:11]:
"It's gonna be an incredible. That weekend will be insane. It'll be a lot of fun. It'll also be very tight."

7. Closing Remarks and Final Promotions

The episode concludes with acknowledgments of their interns and sponsors, including SimpliSafe and LiquidIV, ensuring listeners are reminded of the resources and support systems available to them.

Will Compton [56:00]:
"I think you have to have a degree to get a job here."

Taylor Lewan [142:04]:
"Straight to the touchdowns. It's a good mindset."

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Notable Quotes

• Mike Vrabel [05:05]:
  "We focused on building a program that the players believe in, ensuring support systems are sound, and maintaining high standards."

• Drake May [129:36]:
  "Every day I go out there, I tell myself, 'You're undrafted. It's time to go earn it.'"

• Taylor Lewan [09:49]:
  "It's about embracing the suck together."

• Will Compton [03:02]:
  "FanDuel is dropping profit boost tokens. We're talking Monday through Sunday, no breaks, no days off."

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Conclusion

This episode of "Bussin' With The Boys" offers an in-depth look into the transition of Mike Vrabel from the Titans to the Patriots, highlighting his approach to coaching and team culture. Simultaneously, Drake May's inspiring journey from an undrafted linebacker to securing a significant role with the Patriots showcases the values of resilience and determination. The hosts effectively blend personal anecdotes with professional insights, providing listeners with valuable perspectives on team dynamics, coaching philosophies, and the unyielding spirit required to succeed in the NFL.

Listeners are encouraged to join the upcoming live show for more engaging discussions and exclusive interviews, further solidifying the podcast's commitment to bringing fans closer to their favorite NFL personalities.

Transcript

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[Taylor Lewan]

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is episode 341 of bus one with the boys. We are officially in our training camp tour, the first stop, the New England Patriots. We got Drake May, Matt Collins, Robert Spillane, and Mike Vrabel himself. He comes back on what is now known as a pseudo bus. We check out the the practice we hang out. They have treated us like absolute kings during this whole entire thing. They've been amazing to us. Please do me a favor, subscribe, unsubscribe or resubscribe. And if you like this hat, bwtb.com you can get all the merch there. Also, September 19th live show at Rococo Theater in Lincoln, Nebraska, right before the most prestigious trophy game in all of college football, the Bus and Bowl. We'll see you guys there. Big hugs, Tenny kisses. Please enjoy this fun episode.

[Will Compton]

All right, we're good.

[Taylor Lewan]

Be like busting with the boys, hanging with the fellas, betting on a game. No woman's gonna tell us what to do and I've been over Here just drinking beer and making that noise, baby. I'm hanging with the fellas.

[Mike Vrabel]

Busting with the boys, bro.

[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

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[Taylor Lewan]

Dude, can I just. Thank you fanduel.

[Will Compton]

Thank you, fanduel.

[Taylor Lewan]

The summer is. We're in the peak summer. Not a whole lot of sports going on. And for them to give a profit boost token like that at a time like this.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Taylor Lewan]

When the weather is raging. What a kind company.

[Will Compton]

Especially it's like, tell me it's coming.

[Taylor Lewan]

What's coming?

[Will Compton]

Football season.

[Taylor Lewan]

Football season. A lot of the. A lot of the hardos want to argue that it's already here, Will. It's already happened. Chargers, Lions.

[Will Compton]

I understand that enthusiasm. I do. Because I think this is a. I think this is a great time to start prepping your significant others, your wives, for what is to come.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right, right, right.

[Will Compton]

You get to where it's preseason. Everybody's excited. I mean, I flip back and forth on the preseason game, the hall of Fame game, but it's not like I'm sitting there watching it. You see it. You see the excitement. You scroll the apps a little bit, see everybody else's excitement. Because we worked really hard to get here. But this is the opportunity where you start the warm up before the workout.

[Taylor Lewan]

The massage.

[Will Compton]

It was like.

[Taylor Lewan]

And intercept that real quick. You're. You turn on the game. We've been in the situation. We've been in a preseason game, and you know, those guys don't want to be there. If you see yes and no, you see yes, yes and yes. The cats who are like, you know, yeah, first round. The cats that are not. Are not working for a job, to have their job, they're sitting there going, these got us in the hall of Fame game. We gotta do an extra one of these things.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And also there's a bunch of hungry Robert Spillanes. Well, Compton's whip around. They're going, I'm gonna absolutely ruin someone's life this afternoon. And that's gonna give me my dreams to come true. Be somebody's nightmare in Ohio.

[Will Compton]

It's like Charles, we were upstairs changing Scotty jumping off the furniture, and I was like, hall of Fame game tonight. Football's back. There's a game night.

[Taylor Lewan]

July.

[Will Compton]

I look at my watch, I'm like, it is July. And it's just. You start planting the seed. You're like, oh, football's on tonight. We got to have it on. Wasn't really on, but you start the domino effect and start getting them warmed up to what the schedule is going to be like.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

My preseason games are sporadic.

[Taylor Lewan]

My two kids walked into the main cave the other day, and I'm sitting there and they go, daddy, what you watching? I say, I'm just watching a little something. They go, oh, good. We were hoping it wasn't football. And I said, it's good you mentioned that because we're not too far away, kids, and we will be watching. And like, no, dad, please don't. They caught themselves a punishment, got him back in line. Now we're getting ready for football season. Put your nose in the corner right now. Hall of Fame game. Thank you for letting me punish my children so I can get ready for the football season. Yeah, I'm excited.

[Will Compton]

Let me ask you this. Tell me, would you potentially be excited to be the hall of Fame game, the first game, being in camp?

[Taylor Lewan]

Great question. Never had the op. I don't hate it.

[Will Compton]

Now, did I think both teams, they probably had to report early for camp?

[Taylor Lewan]

I think so. I think that's usually how that would suck.

[Will Compton]

But if you have a.

[Taylor Lewan]

Usually the report early happens with a new coach and either one of those teams have new coaches, we're talking about the Lions and the Chargers. For those of you who did not, who live under a rock and don't know football's bad.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm sitting here thinking it. It could be nice if you have a preseason game that early out of the game because camp gets a little cut, a little bit shorter. Not like shorter, but you know what I'm saying.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

The scheduling around it.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Types of practice, the day you have to travel, you have to get out there. And a lot of guys, the guys who are kind of solidified that they're going to have their position for that year, this isn't. That's like an off day. That's like a. Okay, hey, we want you to play 10 snaps this game. You stress out, you warm up, but you're morally joking around. You're thinking, I just got to. I got to operate 10 snaps, show that I'm, you know, putting the work in, blah, blah, kind of get my, you know, get a little WD40 in these joints of mine and get moving. But then it seeds. It's jokes, it's camaraderie after that. That's the vibe. That's what you want.

[Will Compton]

How thankful are you that you were not out in this heat at training camp?

[Taylor Lewan]

Can I be honest?

[Will Compton]

Be honest.

[Taylor Lewan]

I miss it right now. And these last like four or five days, seeing how hot it was and being like, yeah, waking up in the morning and not being. Feeling obligated to be somewhere immediately at 6am is a nice bonus. But there is not a better feeling than getting done with a two and a half hour practice. Couple guys are cramping in the corner. You're drenched in sweat. You're taking off your stuff. You take your socks and you squeegee them and sweat just drains.

[Will Compton]

Smell your cleats a little bit.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah. You get a little whiff because you like your own scent, not somebody's else's. Yeah. And. And you sit there and somebody makes the remark. Boys this is the farthest we'll be away from the next practice. And there's a piece of you that goes from I have been in hell to holy shit, he's right. Then the giggles start to happen. People get on their phones. Boys in the locker room start jabbing at each other. You might stumble across a friend who just came from the Redskins. And you have accountability, buddy. And you're like, let's do the extra mile. Let's get ready for tomorrow with the sauna, with this cold tub.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And that, to me, is awesome. It's the. It's embracing the suck together. It's like, yeah, Like, I sit here now, I'm on a bus. Our air conditioning is working. That's new. But it's like. And it's great. Like, we have a great life. Our life is amazing. But I trade this in right now to get out there for a couple more snacks.

[Will Compton]

I don't know if I share that same sentiment anymore.

[Taylor Lewan]

I trade. There's a meeting.

[Will Compton]

I miss everything you just said, but I miss it with my younger body.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Like, knowing where I'm at now, it's like, I touch that heat outside, get sticky right away. Like, there's a little bit of softness that's came with this comfort, no doubt to where it's like, I. I would not trade what's going on right now to get back out there in the training camp. You know, your boy.

[Taylor Lewan]

I would.

[Will Compton]

You know, I'm kind of an expert in finesse in training camp.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, you're an expert finessing a lot of things. I'll say this, dude. When you're. When you go to camp and you wake up in the morning, like, you wake up, the alarm goes off and there's your anxiety. Immediately you go into the meetings, you get like pre taped. If you do tape, you put your braces on. If they're making you wear braces, you got the pants on, you got your bottoms fully done. You got your. Your shoulder pads, the jersey on. You go in the meeting, coach goes over, hey, this is what's going to happen today. We're doing a nine on seven period. We got one on ones. And this time we're hit individual and individual day. We're going to do those things. At this point, your heart rate is.

[Will Compton]

Truly skyrocketing because you're also like, I got to get my pre. My pre practice routine. This body, right.

[Taylor Lewan]

A lot of coaches like to hit them fucking jaw sets. You're like, I need that extra five. Especially when you're in years Seven and above. You're like, I need that extra five. Let me loosen and lather a little bit before I get out there. But a lot of your mind goes to. For me, it was first team, period. Okay. I got to operate there. And then those one on ones where it's just you and another guy in front of you, and you know it's tailored towards the defense. They're pinning their ears back. The cadence isn't really anything. And you're like, if I can succeed in this category, in this category today, everything else can go fuck off. That's where the anxiety hits. Now go back to what we're saying before of like, after practice, if you're able to check those couple of boxes where you're like, I got better today because I focus on these things. And I. I saw myself improve my winning and losing the reps, whatever. But, like, my hands were better, my set was better, my feet were better, I got out of my stance a little bit faster. Whatever you were trying to work on, you hit those, man. That's like a rest easy moment. And you're like, okay, tomorrow we're gonna watch this film in your mind. You've already watched film 50 times in your head, every bad snap you've had, and you're like, I'm gonna work on these three things tomorrow. And then you go to a meeting room, they tell you the only things you already know, and you're like, tomorrow, I'm gonna knock that out of the park. And then you go to bed, and, buddy, you don't sleep better than after a hard day of camp.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And knowing that you get to go into, you know, your. Your position meetings.

[Mike Vrabel]

And.

[Will Compton]

What am I trying to say right now? Defense, Offense. Defense, Offense. Team, not team meeting.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Offensive, defensive.

[Will Compton]

Offensive. Defensive meetings. And there's just had a hard time.

[Taylor Lewan]

He said defense, offense. All you had to do was flip those two words for him. Got the breakdown.

[Will Compton]

What's going on there? And you get to kind of sit easy knowing, like, oh, play's about to come up, you know?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Get a little compliment.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right, right.

[Will Compton]

Like, this one was good versus the anxiety of like, I. This one.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Vice versa. Yeah, that's the opposite. Because when you do have a really bad play, let's say, how coach is gonna.

[Will Compton]

How is coach gonna coach this? How is he gonna go off a bad play early?

[Taylor Lewan]

My brain would go to, you got to finish extra hard today. So when coach reams your ass, there's a couple clips where maybe we have a big explosive play that you also see 77 run down the field quite a bit.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And you can. You can look at that and be like, that's the effort we need. That's all you need to get back on track. Football players are words of affirmation. Guys. You hate to admit it, but when they walk into that team meeting room, you're looking for the words of affirmation.

[Will Compton]

You need them.

[Taylor Lewan]

You're looking for a pat on the ass. You're looking for a good job, and you're dreading the fact that you might get a. What the fuck are we doing here?

[Will Compton]

The.

[Taylor Lewan]

Or the age old. We're paying you how much to do this? That's always the gut wrenching situation.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

When you.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I'm going back to the time where you got spun around by jpp.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yep. Would you. Loved.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I mimicked that for Variable at the rookie show.

[Taylor Lewan]

That was tough. And also, I will say this about jpp. Hell of a move. Hell of a move with eight fingers. I will say, like, he was fun.

[Will Compton]

Taylor round in practice, but he hit.

[Taylor Lewan]

Me with an inside move and I like, was like, oh, he's going inside. And I went hard inside. And then he went back outside and I literally did a whirling dervish, turned around and he was at the quarterback. Hits the bag. Sorry. Hits the bag and goes. And I did that with one hand. I thought he got my ass because I was thinking to myself, I'm gonna body him. And now I'm gonna say, maybe if you had two hands, it'd go a lot easier for you. I had a little something in my arsenal up top and then all of a sudden didn't go. It didn't go the way I wanted.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

But I will say, when we played Tampa the next year, I remembered that play and I watched that play over and over again. He didn't get my ass in the game. So. It's called learning. That's called learning. Someone who's also learned, a man from Ohio was in the rap game for a long time. Something happened between him and Eminem. All of a sudden changes genres and revitalizes punk pop. And now he is the official 2025 CFB anthem. Let's give a round of applause for MGK. Single handedly bringing back the greatest genre of the 2000s. The greatest. I think that's not arguable, right? Have you heard what he's doing now? What's he doing now? All right, Jack, what were you. Sorry. I like, I don't know. That was crazy.

[Robert Spillane]

I don't Know why I said that?

[Taylor Lewan]

That's crazy.

[Robert Spillane]

I don't know why I said that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Say it again so people know what you said.

[Robert Spillane]

I said touching kids.

[Taylor Lewan]

You said it again.

[Robert Spillane]

Touching kids.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh my God. Dude.

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I'm.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

I think he's doing like justice, maybe single handedly bringing back pop punk. That's a crazy statement.

[Taylor Lewan]

Mgk. He has Travis Barker brought back that genre. There were people doing that, but they were the faces and the voices that brought that genre back. Now you got black 182 out there killing it. You got five black guys doing a pop punk music and they rip. Shout out. Paradox. They do rip. They rip. Yeah. And they do. And I've seen them do a live show. Like a little clip of them. And they make jokes. They reference the fact that they're black 1.

[Will Compton]

They make jokes.

[Taylor Lewan]

They make jokes about them being black 182. I love it.

[Robert Spillane]

But you're saying MGK the white man is bringing it back.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Okay. I am jp.

[Robert Spillane]

We can say anything about.

[Taylor Lewan]

The black guys can get mad about Elvis Presley about we. You know, they do cool. That we take the cool. It's no longer cool. So they have to make new cool. And then we know we try to do that cool shit. White guys have been pretty steady on the pop punk. We've been pretty steady. We've been right. That's. That's. That's our fastball. True. That's our fastball. And mgk. It started a putter and MGK brought it back. Don't bring up Jimi Hendrix.

[Will Compton]

Jimi Hendrix on the screen.

[Taylor Lewan]

Don't bring up. Don't do that. That's a. That's rock.

[Will Compton]

So we like the song. I was gonna say song of the season is MGK. Song of the season. MGK Colle.

[Robert Spillane]

Can we play 10 seconds of it?

[Taylor Lewan]

Play 10 seconds of it.

[Will Compton]

I don't know if we're allowed to.

[Taylor Lewan]

You know Will hasn't heard it.

[Robert Spillane]

We can't play under.

[Will Compton]

I saw the little theme. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

I saw the little real touching banner.

[Robert Spillane]

Amazing blue for the guys in the back who could not hear. I know Taylor's opinion on the song. Is the song good?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. With the reel that it's doing like the little hype video. It just gets you excited about college football coming back. It's very good energy. It's not like some motivating song, but it's like a good feel. Good. Let's get excited. Let's get excited for. For college game day coming back on Saturdays. Big noon kickoff. Just getting in the. The spirit of College football.

[Mike Vrabel]

What do you think's been the best college football anthem that. That, that there's been?

[Taylor Lewan]

We're coming to your city.

[Mike Vrabel]

That's the college.

[Taylor Lewan]

Gonna play our guitars and sing you a country song.

[Mike Vrabel]

That's the college game.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

We would need to see you pull up a few.

[Mike Vrabel]

I remember one was centuries. Centuries was by Fallout Boy, Walk on water by 30 seconds to Mars. Those two. Those two I remember. I can't think of the others because they've been doing it for like damn near 10 years now.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Damn near, damn near. Speaking of damn near, damn near football.

[Taylor Lewan]

Season is what it is. The bus and live show, September 19th, which is also.

[Will Compton]

We'll be coming to Lincoln, Nebraska, September 19th. Tickets are on sale right now at rococo theater.com. tickets are live and on sale. Go buy them up. The boys will be there, special guests, drinks, food, the whole kitten caboodle. We will be there getting ready to go to war on Saturday. Michigan versus Nebraska. Birthday weekend.

[Taylor Lewan]

Birthday weekend.

[Will Compton]

But those tickets are on sale. So if you're watching, you want to go to the live show on September 19th. That is at rococo theater.com. that is where you can get the tickets.

[Taylor Lewan]

You can also go to bwtb.com and it will take you over to the record.

[Will Compton]

There you go. If you don't want to try to figure out how to spell Rococo theater, put it all together. You want to simplify it down into four easy letters. BWTB.com our live show banner is right there. You click on that link, it'll take you right to it.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bang.

[Robert Spillane]

And comment. If you want inside the bus to open the live show.

[Taylor Lewan]

I did see that.

[Will Compton]

Like that.

[Taylor Lewan]

I said that.

[Will Compton]

I like that.

[Robert Spillane]

Just give us like 10 minutes maybe.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's a quick 10.

[Robert Spillane]

Maybe 12. We'll put you back in there too.

[Taylor Lewan]

You guys want to open?

[Robert Spillane]

Yeah, I think it'd be fun.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Inside the bus opens. Yeah, I think that's awesome.

[Taylor Lewan]

That'd be great.

[Will Compton]

It's the boys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

But we secretly have Jared walk out first and then no one follows them. So it's just Jared.

[Taylor Lewan]

That would be elite. That would be elite.

[Robert Spillane]

We can think think of something.

[Will Compton]

You know, he's listening to this. Somebody's gonna send it to him.

[Robert Spillane]

Ain't no way he listens to the intro.

[Taylor Lewan]

He does.

[Will Compton]

If we talk about him, he's got a guy. He's got a guy that shoots him. What's good, what gets said.

[Taylor Lewan]

Have a guy, man, describ. He probably does. But yeah, the live show is Going to be incredible. That weekend will be insane. It'll be a lot of fun. It'll also be very tight. Very. A lot of tightness going on. Me versus y'. All. Me versus the bus.

[Robert Spillane]

Taylor, what does you have Matt Malone with you?

[Taylor Lewan]

Taylor vers the bus.

[Robert Spillane]

Taylor, this is Nebraska.

[Will Compton]

Vers Michigan.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, the most.

[Will Compton]

Taylor vers the bus in office.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bus. It is the bus I'm sitting in right now. It's Taylor versus the bus. I understand what you're trying to do, and at the end of the day, it is Michigan versus Nebraska. I can't put the wing helmet on, although I wish I absolutely could just to take a couple more heads. Yeah, it's my wife. And that's also the theme song from Good the bad the Ugly. If you guys are wondering. Yeah, it's gonna be a hell of a day. I. I literally am so excited for that. I'm so excited. And then as soon as that's over, dude. Spooked over.

[Will Compton]

Exactly right there.

[Taylor Lewan]

It's spook.

[Will Compton]

Made it through the game.

[Taylor Lewan]

Spooktober, dude. Right now we're what, 58 days away. If you're listening to this episode on on Tuesday, we're shooting this on Friday. So it's 61 days. I'm trying to carry the one a little bit. Is it 58, 57 days right now? Well, I looked it up right before we started the show. It's not that impressive. I will say this about spooktober. It's an amazing time. It's incredible. I got bad luck during spooktober. If anything, my right knee's got bad luck during Spooktober 2020. What happened? Your boy tears it against Houston Texans. Have to get surgery. Have to be in Pensacola, Florida for a knee. All right, 2022, first week of Spooktober. I have to get my knee fixed from the first surgery. Now Fast forward to 2025. Your boy has trial for his knee starting October. Spooktober 20th. Oh, I have two options. I have two options. I cut my right leg off and just say, hey, you're not ruining my spooktober. Or I'm going to make the conscious decision. When I'm in Pensacola, Florida, when this trial is going down, we still make time for the spook. We still get after it. Because the end of the day, you are what you do on a daily basis. And if I want to truly embrace spooktober, I need to be Spooktober this year. I need to be it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Are we going to hit On a house.

[Will Compton]

This year we got to hit a big movie. I feel like there's some good scary movies coming. There's a conjuring three coming out in September.

[Taylor Lewan]

Three.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. I think it's the final iteration also. 28 years later is coming out. Is it this year?

[Will Compton]

It's already out on digital.

[Robert Spillane]

Now it's all.

[Taylor Lewan]

I might have to wait to watch that spooktober one.

[Drake May]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because I want to kind of see 28 days weeks and then finally years. Because that I heard I'm not a big, like, ratings guy. Rotten Tomatoes guy. But I love the fact that it has 100% opened up at 100.

[Robert Spillane]

But I have seen some things on Twitter. Apparently some of the zombies in this movie are hung.

[Taylor Lewan]

No shit.

[Robert Spillane]

Like. Like McGregor hung. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Disgusting. McGregor hung. Yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

So I'm excited to watch it for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah. I think they give anybody an excitement to watch it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Weapons. Looks like a spooky one.

[Robert Spillane]

Weapons Gonna be awesome. It already debuted 100 on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Will Compton]

But what about the critics?

[Taylor Lewan]

The critics or not critics.

[Will Compton]

What about the people?

[Robert Spillane]

Audience score won't come out until it's actually hit box office, but the Critic score is 100. That is, to me, is my most anticipated movie of the year. I think I have such high expectations. If it lets me down, I'll.

[Taylor Lewan]

You'll cut off your right leg. You're a big. You're a big ratings guy.

[Will Compton]

Love ratings.

[Taylor Lewan]

Weren't you talking about spooky movies and how, like, if you get, like, a 75 is essentially like an elite.

[Will Compton]

If you're. If you get a 75 or 7.5 on IMDb with the audience in a scary genre, like, you're cooking with gas.

[Taylor Lewan]

Got you.

[Will Compton]

You're cooking with gas.

[Taylor Lewan]

All right. I like to make. I don't like to be pressed by other opinions when it comes to my spooky viewing pleasures, so I get worried about the ratings.

[Robert Spillane]

On the note of reviews, are you okay?

[Taylor Lewan]

Hold on. The new Naked Gun movie, Did you hit record? Okay. The zombies are hugged. The new Naked.

[Robert Spillane]

The new Naked gun, though, had 100 on rotten tomatoes with Liam Neeson.

[Taylor Lewan]

Really?

[Robert Spillane]

Yeah. I don't think I've even seen the original Naked Gun, so I don't know if there's any people listening being like, that's cardinal sin. But I want to go see that. I've heard really good things about it.

[Will Compton]

So I'm not as big. I'm not a big critics. Rotten Tomato.

[Robert Spillane]

Oh, yeah. No, no. It's IMDb.

[Will Compton]

I'm.

[Taylor Lewan]

Audience will is a man of the people. He gets what the people think.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I'm somebody who's very easily entertained, so I pretty much enj damn near every movie, But I just like to know where it. Where it sits at, to know if I should be like, if this is going to be a banger or if it's rated lowly. And I'm watching it. If it's rated lowly with the audience and I'm watching it, it's like, I can. In my mind, I'm like, I can see how they got there.

[Mike Vrabel]

Or the Transformers movies aren't rated that high on IMDb and they're gas.

[Will Compton]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I enjoy pretty much any movie I'm watching.

[Taylor Lewan]

It takes a lot to make. You go, that movie sucks.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I just like knowing, like, okay, I can see how they. I can see how they got to that point.

[Taylor Lewan]

You know what movie I saw recently? No country for Old Men.

[Jack]

Oh.

[Taylor Lewan]

I actually recently just watched it for the first time. There's, like, 20 minutes left in the movie. I had to stop to put my kids to sleep, and I'm. I think I'm already sending out texts like, have you seen this movie? This movie is absolutely incredible. I hated the ending of that movie.

[Mike Vrabel]

That's one with the cow gun.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yes. I hated the end of that movie. Did you? I mean, obviously, you guys are. Your eyes got real big when I say I watch it the first time. It's one of the best you, like, ever. Yeah. One of the best villains ever. I. I think the writing, Woody Harrelson, all the guys are awesome. They all do an amazing job in that movie. I didn't like the way the movie ended.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did you guys feel that same way, or. You guys were totally fine.

[Mike Vrabel]

People, like psychiatrists have done, like, studies and stuff on that movie. And who's the guy. Who's the actor's name? Javier Bardem.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Who plays a villain?

[Mike Vrabel]

His character is the closest thing there's ever been to, like, a psychopath in a movie.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah. I've seen that same stuff. I'm saying I love the characters. I love the storyline. I love the movie. But the ending, I was like, I feel like it does a disservice. I forget how it ends it. One of the other things it does that piss a lot of people off.

[Will Compton]

Is it killed the protagonist off screen, which is crazy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, I'd forgotten about that, dude. Yes. That pissed me off, too. And I was like, all the.

[Will Compton]

And sorry, spoilers.

[Taylor Lewan]

But yeah, I mean, it's like, Josh Brolins. All of a sudden it's like, yeah, we found this dead body in this motel room in El Paso, Texas. It's like, yo, could we. Like, this guy's been hunting that guy for how long? Yeah. And he just gets murked. And we're like, damn. I'm thinking myself, that's wild. It's crazy. I literally paused it, like, right before that to put my children down. I'm thinking, I cannot wait to finish this movie. And then that happens. And I'm like, well, that's a little weird. And then that scene where he sees the girl and she's like, I know you're here, blah, blah, blah. And then he walks out the door. I like that part where it's like, it's the wife. Correct? It's the wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She goes, I knew you'd be here eventually. That I. I think that the. What's the villain's name again?

[Mike Vrabel]

Javier Bardin.

[Taylor Lewan]

Javier Bardin.

[Mike Vrabel]

Bardem.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bardem. Javier Bardem. I thought he. I loved him. But then when he leaves, I mean, we're already giving spoilers. And the car accident happens, like, sticking out of his arm. Yeah, yeah. The bones. The kids give him the. Mister. Mister, are you okay? He's like, give me your shirt. And he, like, takes the shirt and he puts. He wraps around. He walks off. And then it goes to the. The sheriff giving, like a five minute monologue about a dream he had. That doesn't make any sense to me. And then. Then the movie's over. Make it make sense, Sherm. Call it. Call it. That's one of the probably the best scenes in the movie. Call it. What are we calling. What are we playing for? Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And then just gets murked.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, he lives.

[Will Compton]

Oh, he does live.

[Taylor Lewan]

But the. The cop doesn't. The cop does not. Yeah, that's a. It's. It's a great movie. Terrible ending. That got me into what Will was talking about how it's easy. It's easy for him to watch a movie and not be upset by things. It is a rage bait summer that that has been.

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[Will Compton]

Talk about some rage bait potentially out there right now. Terry McLaurin asking for a trade. That's crazy. Requesting a trade.

[Robert Spillane]

Titans. Titans. Titans.

[Taylor Lewan]

Titans.

[Will Compton]

Parsons too? Yeah, Micah Parsons too. That's. I was surprised with the Terry McLaurin one. I thought he was happy out there. Maybe. I think it's all coming down to contract stuff, maybe posturing. But to me it's like, we gotta.

[Taylor Lewan]

Make him Micah Parsons. Because you see Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, a handful of other guys sign the largest NFL contract, non quarterback NFL contract in history over and over and over again. It kind of just keeps on going. And you're send him Michael Parsons. He's with them in that same video about who's the best pass rushers right now. Micah Parsons, his name's always brought up.

[Will Compton]

And you got Jerry Jones out there in the pressers talking about do what, Calling him Michael. What did he call him? Michael?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, one of his press conferences. I could have been his accent or he could have just called him Michael. But he was like, yeah, Michael Parsons.

[Will Compton]

He's talking about like paying guys. He took like a subtle shot at Deck at Dak Prescott. Maybe Micah too, he talks about paying guys. And you know, we only had him for X amount of games last year. But I could see Micah wanting to get out of there, get out of Dallas. Micah, he took a what?

[Taylor Lewan]

He took a major shot at Mike.

[Will Compton]

Right, right. So I could see him wanting to get out of Dallas. Terry, Scary Terry just surprises me. Just. I didn't know it was. It got to a spot to where he's publicly requesting. Requesting a trade.

[Mike Vrabel]

I feel like that's also a wild time to be requesting a trade after getting your franchise quarterback and like going to the NFC championship game and then.

[Taylor Lewan]

Actually your team actually getting better on paper as well.

[Will Compton]

Debo came in. Maybe he's going to get less balls. Maybe he's worried about that.

[Taylor Lewan]

They're two different kinds of looking for security.

[Will Compton]

I'm with you, but Diva's a guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

You just give him the ball and like, hey, go. And he gets after it. Terry's you to take top off and just absolutely push all the backfield away from everything. So then you check it down to Debo. But I think. I think Terry's just looking for some financial security and he's not getting what he wants. But, buddy, you have an opportunity to make something massive happen in Washington. And everything you've said about the Washington media, the fan base, like they've been begging for this, begging for it.

[Will Compton]

Their position. Well, I. I think it's the Eagles in that division.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

All day long, I mean, they were dying.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think the Giants. I think a Giants take the step. A step this year. There's not going to be. I don't know if they're going to be a playoff team, but something about Scatterbo and dart. I need them to be a like, ridiculous.

[Will Compton]

Yes. I got Scatterbow on the preseason all white team. The watch list is Russ not going to start, though?

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't know.

[Will Compton]

No, I think.

[Taylor Lewan]

But I'm watching. I'm watching clips of Jackson, Dart and Scatterbow walk out together. They're wearing opposite jerseys. They have a nice little banter and it's like, I'd like these two to be the faces of my franchise. If I'm the Giants, I like this to happen. I like Scatterboat to run.

[Mike Vrabel]

Neighbors.

[Taylor Lewan]

Who's a free. Yeah, dude. You see some of the clips?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Aliens.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right.

[Mike Vrabel]

I don't know. How do you think?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, like that, that. That dart. Scatter bow. They just got a couple guys out there I'm really into.

[Taylor Lewan]

Loves the white.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. The. The Giants have a good starting running back in Tyrone Tracy, too. He was a rookie last year. Like was a wide receiver transfer or switched to running back. He's. He's a pretty good player too.

[Will Compton]

So they need. Just need a healthy offensive line for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

They need a lot of things. They need a lot of things they.

[Will Compton]

Could like they'll improve, but I mean, who. Who are they going to jump over? The Cowboys?

[Taylor Lewan]

They're going to be fourth, but I think they'll improve as a franchise rule.

[Mike Vrabel]

They'll.

[Taylor Lewan]

They'll get done with their season and be like, hey, obviously not what we want, but I think we're taking steps in the right direction.

[Mike Vrabel]

Would you take their over and wins?

[Taylor Lewan]

What's that?

[Mike Vrabel]

Would you take their over?

[Taylor Lewan]

Depends what it is. You can pull that up for me right now. I'll say this about Russell Wilson as well. I've talked to people that were at the Broncos with him, and they were kind of like really anti him. The way he came in, the way he acted, his attitude. And towards the end of his stint there, you could see a little more humility, a little more he can see where he went wrong. So if he still is trending that way, that'd be great for Russell, who's had all the experience, won Super Bowls, has had a great career to get a guy like Jackson dart and teach him a couple of things because Jackson's got that. You got something about him, you know, you got a little something about him. Yeah. Yeah. Be interesting. What's the totals on the FanDuel sports book? Analyzing. Analyzing.

[Mike Vrabel]

Five and a half.

[Will Compton]

Five and a half wins.

[Taylor Lewan]

Pull up their schedule. I'm gonna. I'm gonna feel that one out a little bit.

[Will Compton]

Five and a half wins. My gut says under my Gun says.

[Taylor Lewan]

Under commanders, L, Cowboys, L, Chiefs, L, Chargers, L, Saints. Dub, Eagles, L, Broncos, L, Eagle. Yeah, we're going under. They're going under.

[Will Compton]

Tough schedule.

[Taylor Lewan]

They got a schedule, they got a gun. So when I think when they finish this season, they're gonna look and be like, that was a tough schedule.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we're getting better.

[Taylor Lewan]

We're getting better. Yeah. And I think you have a schedule like that with some defenses that are on that schedule, there might be a time you're like, hey, let's throw the rookie in there and see what he can do a little bit. If he shows a little bit of improvement, you can have that Will Levis vibe that the Titans had a year ago, where it's like, we got something here, boys. But, yeah, let's go under on that. Five and a half.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, there's. My guy tells me, g men out there.

[Will Compton]

You think Jackson Dart's showing up 5:00am Every day?

[Taylor Lewan]

No.

[Will Compton]

Like, okay. Ward.

[Taylor Lewan]

Cam Ward is saying and doing all the right things right now.

[Will Compton]

I'm excited to watch him play.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

The juiciest Cam Ward video out there right now is when he's going back and forth to Big Jeff. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Is this the one that Callahan's talking about? How he's. He's talking while Callum's calling to play and then talk and then still says the play out loud? That's some. That's some veteran, right?

[Will Compton]

Wait, he's doing what he's telling.

[Taylor Lewan]

So. Yeah. No, no. Big Jeff is talking to Cam Moore. Cam Ward is talking back While this interaction is happening, Callahan is in the green dot giving him the play. He finishes talking shit and said the things he want to say to Jeff while also retaining the play. Goes in the huddle, says the play, and it's smooth. 60 yard bomb. Yeah. That is the type of shit that gets you juiced up. Yeah. And it's like he's a little bit disrespected on the Madden. He comes in, he goes, good things come to those who work matter. The next day. Goes, I feel like we fucked up after he dropped that bar on us. So they jump him up to a 72, which is still.

[Will Compton]

They give me one extra EA again. I think ma than them. I think they do a great job of getting, like, trolling the world.

[Taylor Lewan]

I agree. I agree. It seems like Cam is one of the least talked about first overall picks of all time as a Titans fan. That's where you want to sit right now. You want no media, you want no nothing. I don't think we have Any primetime games this year? Do we?

[Jack]

No.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Taylor Lewan]

000.

[Will Compton]

And it's like again you're.

[Taylor Lewan]

You want to be as a Titans fan, wake up early, get ready for your noon slate game and just watch the world slowly incrementally get better. So maybe next year you got one or two of them boys. But you want to live in the shadows right now. Gain your strength in the darkness.

[Robert Spillane]

Week 14 we're undefeated. They might flex us if you're on.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

That's fair.

[Robert Spillane]

And we will be undefeated. So go ahead at NFL.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right there. Well I'm not on the team anymore. I do support and love the Titans a lot. I do support and love the Titans quite a bit. It's just one of those things that's like you want them to do well. I feel like I do in my mind I do a better job of being unbiased when it comes to the NFL because that's what I'm most recent too. And you can kind of like sit in a locker room be like this is the team we have. And you know like what the expectation is kind of what your ceiling is. And I remember being in college being like we're going to win the Big Ten champion. I'm coming back from my senior year because we're going to win the Big Ten championship. Fast forward six and six Buffalo Wallowings Bowl. Right. So you just kind of live in a world of delusion. Kate in my pool being like we're Vanderbilt. We're going to win the national championship. And I'm like, I know you believe that but I know it's not also not true and it will not happen. No disrespect to the the to Vanderbilt but what it is there.

[Robert Spillane]

But just one more thing on camp.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just with the one liners today.

[Robert Spillane]

It's Friday man. You know we don't catch a lot of Friday true intros but when it all shakes out and the dust settles in about a decade it's Gonna Go Warren Moon 3, Steve McNair 2. Cam Ward 1. Greatest QBs and Titans franchise.

[Will Compton]

But I love the excitement, optimism.

[Robert Spillane]

I and I and I very well could get crushed. Week one. He throws a pick. You know, first drive.

[Will Compton]

I love how Jack just said all that and said my all my dreams could go down the tank in like first game of the season.

[Robert Spillane]

This is. This is the first time I have felt so optimistic about a player. Like actually confident. Like every year I'm blindly optimistic. Yeah, I know that. Mile High City bro.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Dude. We hey, we played in September we played week one in Denver.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Taylor Lewan]

That sucks. Hard to breathe.

[Will Compton]

Only been in camp 10 days.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. And an easy 10 days, too. That back half. 10 days are the easiest 10 days.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

We gotta. They have the best corner in the league. Yeah. Yeah. They're finding something in Denver.

[Will Compton]

Oh.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bo Nicks taking that year two steps. Sean Payton. That'll be.

[Will Compton]

They'll for sure have growing pains. But as far as, like, optimism for the player that came work could be. It is sick being on the ground level and getting that. It seems like the team has good chemistry right now.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like they're having fun.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Day is also exciting.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

Ward and Big Jeff. Jeff being the lips on Percy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Calvin Ridley in the cold tubs with the boys. Do a little cannonball in the cold tub. That. That's another thing we gotta get red on.

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah. There's definitely things I miss, but I'm saying, like, I'm thankful that I'm not out in the. I'm thankful I'm not doing it anymore. I lifted. I emptied the tank. I left no doubt. Every ounce of my being is out there on the field. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Here. 111.

[Robert Spillane]

We do need Calvin.

[Will Compton]

Empty cup.

[Robert Spillane]

We need Calvin Ridley.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's been interacting on the bus.

[Robert Spillane]

He's been interacting with a ton of our posts on socials.

[Taylor Lewan]

So get him on Jack.

[Robert Spillane]

All right. Calvin.

[Taylor Lewan]

Come on, man.

[Robert Spillane]

Come on my show.

[Taylor Lewan]

Dude, you used to play for this team. Yeah, I didn't play. And you host this podcast.

[Robert Spillane]

Yeah, but he knows who you are. They got a statue of you in the parking lot in that wheelchair.

[Taylor Lewan]

There's some rumors flying around the Titans and bus with the boys might be doing some stuff together this year.

[Will Compton]

Whispers.

[Taylor Lewan]

Whispers.

[Will Compton]

They're just whispers.

[Taylor Lewan]

Whispers. Are you gonna, like, say we, then? Are you gonna say, like, we busting? Yeah, we are gonna be. Our ass is gonna be out there. We will be with Titan. The Titans getting after it.

[Robert Spillane]

We are the Titan.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

We love to be the Titans. Are you we with Michigan or no? Yeah, I'm we. That's crazy.

[Will Compton]

We all know it took a couple years to get him. We with Michigan. It'll take a couple years.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

If the Titans were winning the super.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bowl, he would say we, too. Yes. I don't disagree with any of the things you guys are saying. I'm, for whatever reason, don't know. Probably have to break it down. Not when I'm in the middle of a podcast of why. I'm not saying we, but I have a harder time getting to we. Maybe it's fresh. Maybe I did get cut a couple years ago. Maybe I'm in camp. I'm just talking about how I miss it. I'm a little sad right now. Who knows?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I think you applied for an extra role as a zombie in that movie and you didn't get it.

[Taylor Lewan]

And you didn't get it. You know why didn't. That's you know why I didn't get it. Too hung out there obviously. I looked around going I ain't gonna get into cutting this thing. Yeah. Jesus Christ. What's going on here with these boys, man? All black zombies, man. Yeah, dude, it's tough.

[Will Compton]

Should we talk about how excited we are to go on our little tour? Yeah, let's rip an ad first.

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

Great ad read. So next week we'll be doing. We got a little four day trip planned and we will be hitting. Yeah, we leave Sunday, come back Wednesday night. You jump around. We're gonna go to the New England Patriots. See the boycoach frames.

[Taylor Lewan]

Rabies Stretch Haas.

[Will Compton]

Stretch. I forgot about stretch.

[Taylor Lewan]

You can't ever forget about can't forget about stretch.

[Will Compton]

Can't forget about stretch. Yeah, then we jump to Philadelphia. We'll be doing some interviews in Philly. And then we will go up north, north of the wall to Buffalo. Buffalo bills. Little Josh Allen. Action.

[Taylor Lewan]

All you Buffalo Billy fans out there.

[Will Compton]

Some Billy Bean.

[Taylor Lewan]

I'll tell you now I don't with blue Cheese. I hate blue cheese. I mess with your franchise, I mess with you guys. I do not. I will not touch your blue cheese.

[Will Compton]

Can I say something?

[Taylor Lewan]

Go ahead. Yeah, I. Try it. I hate. I'm going to try it because we wanna.

[Will Compton]

I'm going to go out to Buffalo with an open mind on this blue cheese. Maybe I'll hate it, but I'm saying I'm gonna go out there with an open mind.

[Taylor Lewan]

I will try it. My mind is not.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that was a good one. Needed that one. I was nervous.

[Taylor Lewan]

Frank, the head strength coach at the Patriots, used to be at the Titans. Yeah, I told him. I was like, hey, we're gonna be in town Monday. We get in Sunday.

[Will Compton]

Is he with the Bills?

[Taylor Lewan]

He's with the Patriots.

[Will Compton]

Oh.

[Taylor Lewan]

Calls me and he's like, we getting a pumping or what? I'm like, yeah, we'll get a pump in Monday morning. So slate us in for that, buddy. The boys are back at it.

[Will Compton]

That's awesome. Frank's out there. Harold Landry.

[Taylor Lewan]

Harold Landry's out there. Drake May, who's a. His. Him and his brother fan.

[Will Compton]

Bobby Spillane.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bobby Spillane, I mean, loves football. They actually do have a sick roster. Yeah, they got a good group of boys out there, man.

[Will Compton]

Stefan Diggs. But we'll be hitting. Will Campbell be hitting interviews in New England, Philadelphia and Buffalo. Those will be coming out, you know. We will.

[Taylor Lewan]

Through the month of August.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, through the month of August.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Little vlog.

[Will Compton]

Fun little vlog.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, it's gonna be a good time, man. Just kicking off our fall. Dude, this is kind of. This is like a little appetizer. It's like an appetizer before the big kickoff.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

August 20th.

[Will Compton]

How do you think Brave is going to go about our sit down with him?

[Taylor Lewan]

I think it's going to go exactly like you think it is. We will both be more nervous than we usually are. For our podcast, he will make some off putting comments to us as jokes. We will receive them. We will think about saying anything like, taylor, looks like you're too skinny now. It's like, yeah, rapes. Looks like you took all my weight. I'll think that. And then I won't say that because at the end day, it's still rapes. So that's how I think it's gonna go.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Taylor Lewan]

How do you think it's gonna go?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I think everything you're saying, I'm actually excited to sit down.

[Taylor Lewan]

I'm excited too.

[Will Compton]

Like, not a lot of. Not a lot of nerves is trying to figure out where he's gonna go. Because if he says, the Taylor looks like you lost a lot of weight or makes a skinny joke, I'll now be able to. You know how it gets. It's like, okay, now I'll. I'll go team Braves and be like, hey, Taylor was going to say this about you, Coach Brave.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, you would. You absolutely would. I don't doubt that at all. But, you know, dude, it'll be. It'll be interesting to see him in his element there. And with Vull, it's always like. It's always on Vrabel's terms. Like, we kind of have to figure out what mood Vrabel's in that day.

[Will Compton]

I think he's gonna be in a great movie.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think he is, too. I think he's excited. I think he's excited. He'll sit down. 20 bucks says he says daddy's home is his first thing when he sits on the bus or sits on. In the chair.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. That he made us.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

All those things will come.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. You guys are welcome. All the success.

[Will Compton]

Take a shot of my career.

[Taylor Lewan]

I mean, he took shot at the Manning brothers for us. He goes, we're funnier, less successful versions of the Mannings.

[Will Compton]

So it was a shot at y'.

[Drake May]

All.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, it was a shot.

[Taylor Lewan]

Those are.

[Will Compton]

I thought it was a couple.

[Taylor Lewan]

And we are less successful than the Manning brothers. Yeah. I think he was shooting them. I think he was hitting them.

[Will Compton]

You're funnier, he said. Yeah. I thought he gave us a compliment. My fault.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Compliment. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just a fact. Just facts. Would love film room with him. You would love to sit in a team meeting and just hear him talk to them boys.

[Will Compton]

Or I'll just run the team meeting for him.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because I want to know, what version of rainbow are we seeing? 2018, first year of Mike Verbal where he's trying to turn the culture around. Are we sitting like a 20, 20, 20, 20, 20-21 variable where it's a little more relaxed? He understands the product he's about to put on the field with the boys.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Patriots could be dangerous this year.

[Taylor Lewan]

Could be.

[Will Compton]

They could be dangerous. Could be Buffalo in that division.

[Taylor Lewan]

Miami.

[Will Compton]

But then out of. Yeah, Miami, the Jets.

[Taylor Lewan]

Miami traded Jalen Ramsey around their other corner. Just got acl. Just tore his acl. So every. Everybody in their secondary training camp. Everybody in their secondary. No one was there last year. So Miami's already dealing with a couple of issues there. You got Buffalo, who's just an absolute juggernaut. I keep thinking this. I have to look more into it. But I think this is the bills year. I feel like it is. And then the jets are going to jet.

[Will Compton]

I agree with that. I think the I think New England's got a shot to be the two.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think New England has a shot to be the two as well because the the dolphins, it's like they had a skinny last year. Tua has health issues, their back end. It sounds like they're having a lot of hard times there.

[Will Compton]

A lot of people coming at his veneers to us. Yeah.

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[Taylor Lewan]

Puka shells they said. Was that a Garrett or was that a. You read that somewhere.

[Jack]

Oh, that was on the top.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Come on man.

[Will Compton]

You know he's got some nice new veneer. Look at that's a good smile. This is a show that's about some veneers.

[Taylor Lewan]

We support veneers. We support veneers. Maybe a Christmas gift for all the boys in the back. Just make Them all get veneers.

[Will Compton]

I'll take. I think it'd be a great, great gift from you.

[Taylor Lewan]

You know what? I wouldn't mind, like, a little something. Yeah. I see Ernest walking around sometimes. He's got like.

[Will Compton]

You wanted one at one point, didn't you?

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, yeah. I wanted a grill. I wanted, like, a. One of those custom mouthpieces. That was a grill.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because I never really wore a mouthpiece.

[Will Compton]

Oh, that.

[Taylor Lewan]

But I wanted to be wear, because I kept thinking to myself, white guy from Cave Creek, Arizona, tatted dark visor and a grill. I think that's hilarious.

[Will Compton]

You're riff raff.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. I never got to do it, though. That's why I miss it, man. Need that grill.

[Will Compton]

I would say it was funny the first time that I was here and Rabel came on the bus because you guys were, like, hyping it up big time. And I'm like, oh, this is gonna be epic. And I was not thinking of coach player relationship at all. And right when everybody sits down, it just kind of goes quiet. And y' all are like, so, how's it going?

[Drake May]

This is not what I thought this.

[Jack]

Was gonna go at all.

[Will Compton]

I thought they were boys with them.

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't know.

[Will Compton]

Do you see? You know that respect comes in.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. And it is very much like Vrabel decides how the conversation is gonna go. So if, like, you start making jokes too early, he'll flip up and go serious on you. Right. You're like, all right. And then it's like, really? When he's ready to be funny, it's like, all right, I guess we'll joke around now.

[Robert Spillane]

Also, the last time he came on, he kind of cooked you with that trash bag bit.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, he did.

[Robert Spillane]

Do we try and formulate something as a. I don't know what it would.

[Taylor Lewan]

Be, because he did get fired.

[Robert Spillane]

May give whatever it is, we have.

[Will Compton]

To keep it quiet. We can't say it on. You know, he's. He's a stretch.

[Taylor Lewan]

Is watching right now for.

[Robert Spillane]

Cut this.

[Taylor Lewan]

Cut it. Yeah. This is for the Brave, right?

[Mike Vrabel]

But that's right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah. This is for the Braves episode.

[Robert Spillane]

All right. Enjoy the rainbow interview.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh.

[Mike Vrabel]

You could bring, like, a trash can. Like, hey, you guys forgot this. Or a trash bag. Like, yeah, you forgot this in Tennessee. Like, we just wanted to make sure you got it. I kind of just. It's the same joke, but, like, yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

We could do that.

[Mike Vrabel]

But I don't know.

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't think we have enough room on the plane.

[Mike Vrabel]

I just don't know if you want to reuse that joke, like, on him, be like, oh, that's cute.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he'd get us. He. He'd get over something.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's probably working on something himself right now.

[Robert Spillane]

That's what I'm saying. He probably is going to be ready for war. We should give him a bag of pink, like, dust.

[Taylor Lewan]

Go on, call the cops.

[Robert Spillane]

Did you see Stefan Diggs?

[Mike Vrabel]

He might be.

[Robert Spillane]

Never mind.

[Will Compton]

Maybe I just hit, like, we getting the variable fits, and then we're just, like, ripping a jewel, like, as he sits down.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think we should get in a variable fit before this podcast for sure.

[Robert Spillane]

That actually would be hilarious.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

Just vest. Forgot you already both got the mustache.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Figure out what he's wearing that day and being on it.

[Will Compton]

Picture of him when he wrote Daddy.

[Taylor Lewan]

On the top of the shirt with y'. All.

[Robert Spillane]

Oh, yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

I haven't ruined a perfectly good blessing shirt is what he did.

[Robert Spillane]

I miss Rabel, man.

[Taylor Lewan]

I hope. I hope Jen comes.

[Will Compton]

She's not gonna be there. I asked.

[Taylor Lewan]

Really?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Damn. It's gonna be good.

[Will Compton]

See, he. He hit me up because him and Stretch were watching film. I don't know how they got across this clip, but it was when, you know, I. I forced him. Recovered a fumble against the Detroit Lions. And, like, at the goal line, he's like, stretch is trying to tell me you forces fumble, but Daquan. Daquan loosened it up before you got there. He's right. I ended up getting credited with the stat. Daequan was pissed after the game. He's like, hey, I caused a phone. I know. You're like, but you're gonna get the stat. I was like, yeah, well, what? You caused a fumble. I'm saying. I'm acknowledging that you caused a fumble. He's like, yeah, but you. On social media, everybody's gonna think you did it, but I don't know what you want me to say. Of course I'm gonna hype it up.

[Taylor Lewan]

Let me have this moment. Daan. Man, I love Daquan. What's he doing now?

[Will Compton]

He's still playing, isn't he?

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't think so. Wasn't he.

[Will Compton]

He was on the Bills last year somewhere.

[Taylor Lewan]

I almost said Chicago, but I don't.

[Will Compton]

Think Chicago just put Daquan Jones.

[Taylor Lewan]

He put his. Daquan still playing. Sherm. What kind of.

[Will Compton]

Can you go to all? Can we see if he's still playing?

[Taylor Lewan]

Jesus, it's Sher. Sherman's got no problem putting up all the most weird stuff in the world.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we yeah, we need some information here, Sherm.

[Taylor Lewan]

I'm trying to find.

[Will Compton]

Are you looking it up?

[Jack]

He's with the bills.

[Will Compton]

Okay. He's with the bills. That's.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, we'll see him when we're in Buffalo then. Let's go, Sherm. What else, dude?

[Will Compton]

Our internship has come to a close. Yeah, that's a great photo.

[Taylor Lewan]

I'm sure. I actually just texted clubs that bring Cheese on the bus.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

It's his last day.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. So we had five interns and we hired three of them. That's a big.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's big.

[Will Compton]

We had expectations of hiring one for social.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But the boys are leaving with three big cheese. He's what? Cheese is what, 19 years old? He's got to go back to school. He was. He was talking about. It's like, buddy, you. You gotta. You don't sacrifice everything to join busing with the boys right now.

[Taylor Lewan]

You.

[Will Compton]

You gotta. Yeah, you gotta go back to school.

[Mike Vrabel]

That feels like forever.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think you have to have a degree to get a job here.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Gotta have a degree.

[Will Compton]

You gotta have a degree. Arcades. In camp, we hired Matt Malone, Chef Jack, and Joe Ryan Burrow.

[Taylor Lewan]

Good group of boys, man.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, Good group.

[Taylor Lewan]

And that is the most busting thing ever to be like, well, maybe hire one guy.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And then they're all great. We're like, all right, we got it. We can't. Gotta have this guy.

[Will Compton]

Gotta find a role. This guy made himself, made themselves invaluable.

[Taylor Lewan]

There was something that happened. Was it two days ago where. So Matt Malone is essentially under Jack, but then they. Then they raced weird. And Matt, I believe, beat you in a race.

[Robert Spillane]

Yeah, by like a little bit, I think.

[Mike Vrabel]

Hold on. I think if you. Matt, reached out with his hand, you went headbutt. I think it would have been a tie.

[Robert Spillane]

And I'm wearing vans. Running at 30 years old. No, warm up 30 uphill.

[Mike Vrabel]

I think it would have been a.

[Robert Spillane]

Tie if he was faster than I thought he would be.

[Jack]

I got Jack on the field, though.

[Mike Vrabel]

For sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

You do? J.P. yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

Is this Big Cheese?

[Will Compton]

Big cheddar. Come on here, big dog. Chetty Cheese in the main chair, bro. There you go.

[Taylor Lewan]

What's going on?

[Will Compton]

We're just talking about how it's the. We were talking about recapping the internship and how it was your last day. Yeah, it's been crazy. Did you learn a lot? Yeah, I did. I did learn a whole bunch from.

[Taylor Lewan]

These guys in the back.

[Will Compton]

You did the most recent bus scenes. I thought you did a hell of A job.

[Taylor Lewan]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[Will Compton]

It took a lot of time shout out JP for helping the kid out, but.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, it's been awesome. Who wrote those note cards? Was that JP's questions? Were those your questions? We.

[Will Compton]

We collabed on it. Yeah. Yeah. I would say he came up with a couple really good ones.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. We collapsed when you were on. It's called inside the bus now.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

When you're on inside the bus. You sat down with the boys and they said, give me one word to describe each guy sitting here. Can you go? What was your original words for the guys? And then what is your new word for them?

[Will Compton]

I. I stayed pretty respectful.

[Taylor Lewan]

Good. As you should.

[Will Compton]

I might have gave Garrett some grief.

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't know.

[Will Compton]

What.

[Taylor Lewan]

I. I don't.

[Will Compton]

I don't remember. I did say Mitch.

[Mike Vrabel]

I said hyphenated, big ass head.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I thought that was.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh.

[Will Compton]

I said, yeah. Jack was always on Twitter.

[Drake May]

Hyphenated.

[Taylor Lewan]

Of course.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

From moving forward, I think.

[Will Compton]

I think Garrett would just be helpful. Jared's a very helpful guy. Whenever I need him, we have. Hey, we're growing JP.

[Mike Vrabel]

JP's open minded.

[Will Compton]

Very open minded guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Jack is on.

[Will Compton]

And he keeps. He keeps saying it under his breath too. Go ahead, Mitch. Still.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's.

[Jack]

He's still got a big ass head.

[Taylor Lewan]

Big ass head. Hyphenated. Yeah. That stayed as long as it can go.

[Will Compton]

Sherm. Sherm's got to be goofball. Sherm's a big goofball. And then Jack.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Always on Twitter.

[Taylor Lewan]

You're still always on Twitter, man. Yeah. Still horny. How about your mentor, Jared? How do you feel about him? How's the process been of him teaching you?

[Will Compton]

He has been amazing.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Every single question. I feel like I was peppering him all the time with like random questions and just like things that get. Can get kind of repetitive. But he did a really good job with us. And we made.

[Mike Vrabel]

We.

[Will Compton]

We bonded really well, really fast.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because I feel like our stories are kind of similar when it comes to.

[Will Compton]

Getting a really cool internship opportunity early.

[Mike Vrabel]

On in our careers. And yeah, we bonded very quickly.

[Will Compton]

And I feel like he did a killer job with all of us for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

So, yeah, he helped me.

[Will Compton]

He helped me grow and learn a lot. We're gonna miss you, bro. You're a boy for life. Yeah, we're gonna miss you.

[Taylor Lewan]

I thought.

[Will Compton]

I thought overall, just the internship itself was an incredible learning experience for us. I hope you guys get a lot out of it too, but it's kind of new for us.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Chartered waters.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right. And we kind of did just decide to do this internship. We had, like, a little with the two boys from Michigan, a little like, you know, okay, let's see how it kind of feels. Let's dip our toe in. Went full on board. And it was like, all right, Jared, you run this entire thing. Yeah. And I thought, Jared did a great job. Did a great job. Could have picked a better group of boys.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Flew by, man.

[Will Compton]

That first day we walked in, and we were. I was looking around, I was like, they brought five new guys in.

[Mike Vrabel]

There's got to be one odd one.

[Will Compton]

I mean, Matt's got his own thing going on, but there you picked five amazing guys. Jared did a great job hiring us, so.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You crushed it, man. You've been with us for. For two months now away from home. You excited to get back home?

[Taylor Lewan]

I am super excited to get back.

[Will Compton]

Home, back to back, see my family, see my friends and everything, but a little bit of my heart's gonna be.

[Taylor Lewan]

Left in Nashville here. That's beautiful, man. You guys ready for cheese? Before we send them off, I was.

[Will Compton]

Gonna say, what was some of your favorite moments from the summer?

[Taylor Lewan]

Because we did some cool. This is a cool summer.

[Will Compton]

Amazing summer. Obviously, that first day coming in, and just, like, Will and Taylor just, like, just calmly saying, yeah, we're gonna throw you guys on the bus really quick. And I was just, like, freaking out. Like, I don't recall that at all. Freaking out, but obviously, Titan, you was an awesome week. Yeah, we did. We did go over. We. We did hang out Mitch's house. Yeah. Yeah, we did. We did watch the fights at Jax. Yeah, I had a great time.

[Mike Vrabel]

I feel like you guys really brought.

[Will Compton]

Me in, and I. The brunch, too. Yeah, we had a killer. We had a killer summer. But, yeah, you guys just taking me in and. And taught me a lot, so. Had a great.

[Taylor Lewan]

Had a great time. It's been sick, dude. It's been a lot of fun, for sure.

[Jack]

We.

[Taylor Lewan]

We did come a long way from that first time you were on inside the bus.

[Will Compton]

Yes, we did.

[Taylor Lewan]

He did kind of. He grilled cheese. Me. My first experience with cheese. I walked up in that little area where the old beer punk stuff is. You guys had made, like, a little office for them. And I grabbed his hat and I put it on, and cheese goes. We are fighting.

[Will Compton]

You don't wear a cowboy's hat.

[Taylor Lewan]

I go, what. What are you talking about? He took my. That's a cowboy. Yeah, he just took my hat and put it on. I Just thought that was just big dog me. I just met him for, like, the first time. We. Or fight. Don't take a cowboy's hat. No doubt about it. Well, Cheese, we appreciate you, man. You did a great job. You were awesome, man. Boy for life.

[Drake May]

Let's give him appreciate, boys.

[Will Compton]

Big cheddar.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, my. He just sunned you twice. Back to back to him. That's how he did. Hey, that's what he did on his first riddance, man. Get him out. That's what he did on his first day. He did, man. Yeah, dude. Great internship. Good three group of guys. Two and a half. Good group of guys coming in, staying with bus. Matt's got his. Matt's got his own bag, man.

[Robert Spillane]

He is literally the only guy supporting Michigan with you.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's. That's not true. Coop. Is.

[Robert Spillane]

He Michigan fan?

[Taylor Lewan]

Have you talked to Kuko about it.

[Robert Spillane]

Or about Trey McBride?

[Taylor Lewan]

He was kind of.

[Mike Vrabel]

Coop did have a good time in Nebraska.

[Taylor Lewan]

Dude, I'm not taking anything away from Nebraska. Nebraska. Lincoln is awesome. Fan base is great. The stadium's loud, the people are awesome. I think my team's better than your team. That's it. I love Will. I love the BR. That's all. And we're going to find out September 20th when I'm the only one on that plane flying back with a big ass smile on my face. Y' all gonna feel dumb, but Matt. Matt's got his own bag, dude. Matt's got his own little deal going on.

[Will Compton]

Uphill battle right now for Matt. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. And I told him after, too, because when you guys raced, you guys walked in. I keep hearing people saying, matt, you cheated. You cheated. Blah, blah. He's just like, my arms are long. I don't cheat. Whatever he was saying at the pool. Yeah, well, he said like seven times around my kids, which, the first time's funny, but it's like, hey, we can't do that. Second time's like, I get it. We all make mistakes. Third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh time. I'm like, brother, what are we doing? He's yelling it too, but I brought him in. I was like, hey, come here. I go, I don't know what bit you're doing, but, like, the right now, this first six months you have at busting with the boys is going to be the bed that you are going to have to sleep in. So how do you want to represent yourself to these guys? Because eventually it'll just be. There'll be the evidence. I'd be like, how's Matt? Matt's like this. No, I'm not. Here's the evidence. I was like, you gotta realize the bed you're kind of making for yourself right now. Because I'm watching it. I'm just like. I'm like, this is a young ass cat. But then I see the. What is it? Under the hood, everyone's like, what's your pet peeve? Matt? Goes jp the rest of them go, Matt. So let's see. Let's see what we're doing. Matt, a lot of potential.

[Robert Spillane]

He's a lock in a little bit. And at the end of the day, he's my guy. So, like I. It's, you know, me and him. I was like that too at a younger age. And then you turn 30 and you grow up, you know.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just like that.

[Robert Spillane]

Seven years. No, but I do think he's a. He's like a good punching bag. He takes a joke well. But like, there's some of the. He says is just like so out of pocket that you're like, dog. Like, I don't know if you live in like a perpetual bit or if you are literally just a huge douchebag, right? And I think it's half and half, but. I love the but, buddy.

[Taylor Lewan]

If you. If you're.

[Will Compton]

Guys, we got to love on him. His family's watching this, no doubt.

[Taylor Lewan]

And we're trying to get his family to call him and be like, hey, sounds like they do.

[Will Compton]

Anytime we mention him.

[Taylor Lewan]

We got to condition them too. But yes. And if, like, Matt is a guy that is good at taking a joke, that's great. But eventually, if you become the guy that's always the butt of the joke. It hurts eventually. Mitch, am I right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, how often have you been like, I'm the butt of every joke. And it's like, yeah, it's fun for a little bit, but then it's like, hol.

[Mike Vrabel]

I mean, I've just gotten used to it at this point, three years in. I mean, it is what it is. And like, But Matt seems more. He's like, dude, I don't know what.

[Will Compton]

You guys are even fucking saying.

[Mike Vrabel]

Like, where does this even coming from? It's like, Matt, you put this on yourself. I don't know if I necessarily put it on myself.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's a really good thing that's happened for you.

[Will Compton]

No doubt.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Taylor Lewan]

But I'm sure let's just let that dog lie.

[Mike Vrabel]

Okay.

[Taylor Lewan]

I do like Matt. Just saying I worry about him. I worry about him a little bit. I got a bunch of sharks back Here. That might get his ass. He.

[Robert Spillane]

The last thing I'll say about him. He said, just a classic Matt euphemism today where he's like, yeah, I'm meeting up with my ex girlfriend and I haven't seen her in eight months. He goes, things have just been too good recently. He goes, I need some chaos in my life. I was like, are you gonna hook up with. He's like, no, no. I just need to stir the pot a little. I was like, dog, what are you doing?

[Taylor Lewan]

I swear to God, I've heard that exact thing come out of your mouth.

[Robert Spillane]

I'm telling you as a reform. As a reformed douchebag.

[Taylor Lewan]

I swear I've heard Jack say that before.

[Robert Spillane]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I. I'm laying out the. The footprints for him, right? And he's got seven years until he's got to figure his out.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Robert Spillane]

Clock is ticking.

[Taylor Lewan]

Love the boy, man. Love him. I love our additions.

[Robert Spillane]

We love Matt, Ms. Malone, and he's in good hands.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Ms. Malone, we were a fan of Matt.

[Will Compton]

Should we. Should we get to our interviews?

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Oh good.

[Will Compton]

8:20 set up ready to go. Just talking brave stories like the hat did.

[Mike Vrabel]

We got a hat? You can leave me with a hat.

[Will Compton]

You're not a big hat guy.

[Mike Vrabel]

Well, I might be. I like the rope.

[Will Compton]

We'll get you. We'll get you.

[Mike Vrabel]

I like it. Carter likes him.

[Taylor Lewan]

Do you remember what you said to me when you when I was late for a team meeting one time? Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Thank God you're rich.

[Taylor Lewan]

And then what happened?

[Mike Vrabel]

I find you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. No other words were talked about.

[Mike Vrabel]

That's it. It was great. We moved on and so we're here.

[Taylor Lewan]

We were early to be early.

[Mike Vrabel]

I was on time. 9:20, Stacy. 920, Stacy. Thank you Stacy.

[Will Compton]

Welcome to Bustin with the boys Again, dude.

[Mike Vrabel]

Third time as a charm.

[Will Compton]

Good to see you back on your feet.

[Mike Vrabel]

Thank you. Yeah, I don't think I was ever off my feet, but.

[Will Compton]

Well, Tennessee.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

There's like a little Browns consultant.

[Mike Vrabel]

Consultant.

[Will Compton]

We've all been fired.

[Mike Vrabel]

It was shit canned.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Go ahead, Taylor.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Don't get scared now. That's the hard stuff.

[Jack]

Let's go.

[Mike Vrabel]

Back on my feet.

[Taylor Lewan]

What took place in that conversation that led because when the season ended, everyone's like, raves is going to get extension. The rumor is that Braves is now going to go from an HD to actually have a little more of a GM role as well, maybe a little more power in the building. And then you walked into a meeting and you walked down.

[Mike Vrabel]

They're like, no, that wasn't a meeting. Those aren't meetings. You just get fired.

[Taylor Lewan]

You just get fired. They just called you and fired you?

[Mike Vrabel]

No. You walk upstairs. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You just. How'd you handle it?

[Mike Vrabel]

I just said, give me an hour and I'll be out of here. Just want to talk to my staff.

[Will Compton]

I feel like you. You wouldn't be a fun guy to. To fire.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, it was. I meant again, they make. Everybody makes decisions and any question. No, I got the point. I get the drift.

[Taylor Lewan]

So there was never like a, hey, what do you think could have happened differently? Obviously, the age of Brown trade happened.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, no. At that point. No. There was no. Again, it was no discussion. I heard the message and I just said, give me an hour. I'd like to talk to my staff and I'll box my stuff up.

[Will Compton]

Just spin the cup. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Don't.

[Mike Vrabel]

I don't spit.

[Will Compton]

How close were you to coaching in college? Because there were rumors throughout Ohio State, not very close.

[Mike Vrabel]

Not very close.

[Will Compton]

There are rumors about you potentially being the defensive coordinator at Nebraska. Remember when I texted you, I was.

[Mike Vrabel]

Like, hey, yeah, I know.

[Will Compton]

Interest.

[Mike Vrabel]

No. And what I text, I'd even text back.

[Will Compton]

Or no, I forget what you said.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, not very close. No. And I love my time in Cleveland. Yeah. I mean, I love being on the offensive side of the ball. I loved just getting back to coaching. Helped the O line. You'd have loved it. I bet you were in there all.

[Taylor Lewan]

The time telling guys to wall off on the backside of duo.

[Mike Vrabel]

Just getting.

[Taylor Lewan]

Just get in the way.

[Mike Vrabel]

You're in the backside, inside out, deuce near footed.

[Will Compton]

Was there anything during that time with Cleveland?

[Mike Vrabel]

And a sternum.

[Taylor Lewan]

Got to have it there.

[Mike Vrabel]

A little leverage, man. Reach. Take them on the angle. You find them.

[Taylor Lewan]

Are you running the same offense in Cleveland?

[Mike Vrabel]

There Were some similarities.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Was there a time like just having that year in Cleveland to where you found or reignited some passion that you had, that when you were. You were at first ed coach, all the expectations, all the pressure, and then you kind of just go into a consulting role and kind of having more fun around Cleveland?

[Mike Vrabel]

I think that that's probably. There's some truth to that. I think there's some reality to that. I think you realize that you miss it, you know, and that you want to do it, that there's nothing else that you want to do.

[Will Compton]

Do you have. What do you feel like you learned from the first time as a head coach now coming into New England?

[Mike Vrabel]

Well, I mean, I think we learn stuff every day. I mean, it's just. There's going to be things that come up every day. Situation, injuries, you know, I mean, we always talk about distractions are unavoidable. It's how we. We handle them. And so just staying flexible, staying consistent, you know, focusing on the guys that want to improve, that are taking the message and those things that sometimes I let the, you know, the small majority affect all the other positive stuff.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you'd always say, you can't up my Friday.

[Mike Vrabel]

But sometimes, sometimes they try. Yeah, no, I mean, they tried. Taylor tried and all. Everybody tried.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think sometimes you still got stuff that's more unintentional.

[Mike Vrabel]

I probably did. But it was a good message. It was a good tagline.

[Taylor Lewan]

How did you do that development of you and Jameis Winston running at the start of every practice?

[Mike Vrabel]

So they would go routes on air. Right. And then they would go. And I was like, I can. I mean, I'm. I could push these guys a little bit, just goofing around. I'd wait till the last guy thrown and take off running and just trying to have some fun down there in the Greenbrier down in West Virginia. Have you ever seen what a spirit that guy has?

[Taylor Lewan]

I was gonna say, have you ever.

[Mike Vrabel]

Met a guy Never.

[Taylor Lewan]

That loves football?

[Mike Vrabel]

You think it's like, you know, two, three days in. This is a shtick, right?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Three, five sec. A week, two weeks. You're like, it's impossible to stay in character this long. This is actually really who this guy is.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's the best method actor of all time.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. I'm like, now this is just a shtick. And I'm like, nope. This is. I loved it. It was awesome.

[Will Compton]

When did it feel like New England was going to be a real possibility for you?

[Mike Vrabel]

Well, I mean, just going through the process of Interviewing and having. He's doing teams reach out.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's doing the thing right now.

[Mike Vrabel]

The coach talk.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I mean, I think after the. After the season, like, that's when it heats up, you know? I mean, that's when people call.

[Will Compton]

How about this? How about this? So we get. So. Because the co. Yeah, yeah. The interview process, everything else. Are you leaving a good enter. Are you leaving, like, after you have a good interview and you're just thinking, man, what if I become the head coach of the Patriots? Hey, three banners up there. You reminded us all the time to where.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I didn't.

[Taylor Lewan]

Sat in every single chair in this meeting room.

[Mike Vrabel]

You guys, you guys, we juice it a little bit.

[Taylor Lewan]

Listen, just stay in front of your guy. Listen. What do I know? I've done it before.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, that is not true.

[Taylor Lewan]

What are you talking about?

[Will Compton]

Hang on. Don't listen. But legit, legit, like, whether you're flying back or you're driving and you're just thinking, what if I'm the head coach of the New England Patriots?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. I mean, I think that that goes through, and I think that the timing was right and had opportunity to come back here. Probably prior as an assistant, didn't feel like that was something that I wanted to do or that was what was best for me at that particular time. And then I think the timing was. Was right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Was the interview process a little bit different with the Patriots because you have the relationship with Kraft? Called them up, said, hey, what are you thinking?

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I mean, they were all about the same half a year.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's like, I think I can do that.

[Mike Vrabel]

They were all about the same.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

I mean, as far as. Actually, I met with Chicago, met with the jets, and then met with the Patriots and had talked to other teams, but didn't end up taking those interviews.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did any other teams offer, you say.

[Mike Vrabel]

Hey, offer without an interview?

[Taylor Lewan]

No. Like, you ended up talking to those couple other teams?

[Mike Vrabel]

Oh, no. I mean, I think that. That after meeting here, I think that it happened pretty quick over the next.

[Taylor Lewan]

Couple days when you go out to practice and it's like, you know, fans can come in, the Gen pops watching. They're excited. Do you ever hear anything about the 2019 season when you. Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick?

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I mean, I don't hear anything about that specifically from the fans. Yeah, I mean, people are excited. I'm glad that they're excited and they come out and it's. It's a good environment. We had a bunch of fans in the stadium. On Friday. There'll be a bunch up there today. They heard you guys were coming.

[Will Compton]

They did, didn't they?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, they did.

[Will Compton]

I sent a tweet. I put out a tweet.

[Mike Vrabel]

I hooked up with your boy Frank. You ever interview Frank the Tank?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

How smart is that guy?

[Taylor Lewan]

Frank's awesome.

[Will Compton]

He's an encyclopedia.

[Mike Vrabel]

I mean, it was like just a couple times.

[Will Compton]

You're walking. You're like, where. You know, where might this go?

[Mike Vrabel]

We just talk sports.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. He is an encyclopedia.

[Mike Vrabel]

Knew everything about all the. About the age that I grew up. Browns back then, every high school. Crazy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Everything.

[Mike Vrabel]

That was fun.

[Will Compton]

Dude, I'm so fired.

[Mike Vrabel]

What else? Kids? Everybody good?

[Will Compton]

Everybody's great, man. Everybody's great.

[Mike Vrabel]

You done with. You've done it too? Or how many more we have in?

[Will Compton]

We're up in the air right now, but we're open to a third one. We're open to a third one.

[Mike Vrabel]

How's the Lawan crew? Did you guys go to Canada?

[Taylor Lewan]

Went to Canada. Just got back on the 21st when Willow turned 8 and 5. So when. Just watched Harry Potter for the first time yesterday before we got in the plane.

[Mike Vrabel]

Winnie, what's that make her set? Third grade.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, third. Well, second grade.

[Mike Vrabel]

Second grade.

[Taylor Lewan]

The whole back.

[Mike Vrabel]

Held her back.

[Taylor Lewan]

Held her back.

[Mike Vrabel]

She's got the little one.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Little Juan brains.

[Taylor Lewan]

She starts reading a little bit. I said, I think to myself, you know what? We're gonna do you the favor that never happened for me. We're gonna hold you back a little bit.

[Mike Vrabel]

Good.

[Taylor Lewan]

Get you dialed in.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, It's. It's. It's tough because you risk. You go again. You get three girls.

[Mike Vrabel]

It's Tony Dewes. Four.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's the guy that chased. He was obviously chasing the boy.

[Mike Vrabel]

Was.

[Taylor Lewan]

Got the two. He's like, all right, we'll do one more.

[Mike Vrabel]

He's like, yeah, we'll have a little football player. Okay. Or not yet. Again.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Can't just get it right like you did the first time and second time.

[Mike Vrabel]

And the second time.

[Taylor Lewan]

How the boys doing? How's Tyler?

[Mike Vrabel]

Tyler's actually a BC helping out. O Line intern.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. He helped out in the spring, and then they asked him to come back. Help for the season.

[Taylor Lewan]

Nice.

[Mike Vrabel]

So he's grinding. Figuring out that. Figuring out the old.

[Will Compton]

The coaching grind.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, like, just the. The whole. Like, you know, when you play, you. You don't worry about. You see the diagrams, Right. You don't realize where those run diagrams came from or where the. The defense. Yeah, right. And so it's on Vizio. And he's like, dad, the first time I said, hey, all the films, all these cards on Vizio. He goes, I was there for four hours. I think I got three cards done. He's like, there's got to be a better way for this. And then he figured it out, and. And, you know, and then Carter's back in Nashville.

[Will Compton]

How often does Tyler.

[Mike Vrabel]

Looking for a job?

[Will Compton]

What is he doing?

[Mike Vrabel]

He's looking for a job. He graduated from Tennessee Tech, played baseball, and is looking for a job.

[Taylor Lewan]

Is he called the Pats?

[Mike Vrabel]

No, he's not coming. He's not leaving Nashville.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's not leaving. He's staying.

[Will Compton]

You know, he ain't trying to get his dad.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, he. He loves Nashville. He'll be up here for the games, but he just loves room.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, he went for a summer, it was like hanging out in the.

[Mike Vrabel]

He would.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, but it was awesome.

[Mike Vrabel]

He not. He's past chasing jocks around everything else. Laundry is.

[Will Compton]

Tyler, does he pick your brain a lot for all the stuff, you know.

[Mike Vrabel]

He was asking about coverages as an offensive lineman. I think as a young one, you don't really worry too much about coverage. And now that he's drawing cards, he just wants to know, you know, coverages and rotation and whether the weak safety's down or the weak safety's pressuring. Is he outside the end? You know, all the things that we would talk about. You know, I think he's just understanding the game. I think he's excited about helping the young players. He was a developmental player, and so he's like, I get to work with the threes. There's some young guys that I think have potential. So I think that there's some excitement there from. From helping those guys.

[Will Compton]

Does he want to coach, Coach with you one day?

[Mike Vrabel]

I don't know about that. You know, I mean, I just. I think he wants to see if he wants to coach and if he's willing to go on this journey.

[Taylor Lewan]

What was the conversation like with him? Because I was. When we. Before we're going, I was trying to catch up on what he was up to. And I just saw that July 30, he was on injury reserve in 2024 and assumed like, okay, he's out.

[Mike Vrabel]

So in. Tyler just decided that he didn't want to do the practice squad again. That had been his, you know, his decision, and again, that was his path. And I think he realized that he, you know, missed football, loved football, wanted to be around it, and finished his degree and in the process of doing that, helped out in the spring. And then, you know, they asked him to come back for the season.

[Taylor Lewan]

Was there any type of conversation between you and him where you're like, yeah, I know you don't want to. The practice squad again, there was. You just.

[Mike Vrabel]

There was like a coach and a dad conversation.

[Taylor Lewan]

Got to wear different hats. I'm sure that was a tough for you to go back and forth in that.

[Mike Vrabel]

Well, it wasn't. I think a while ago, it had. I mean, I told you there were some things that I regretted, you know, growing up. When they were growing up. There was things that I regretted the way that I handled it and was, you know, borderline embarrassed with things that, you know, just not being able to differentiate the coach and the. Being demanding. And then dad. And so, by the grace of God, got past that and had another opportunity. And so it was a good conversation. It was, hey, here's what I would say to you as a. From a coaching perspective. Here's what I would say to you as a dad. And so. So he made his decision, and I think he's really happy about it. And, you know, see where this goes, this coaching thing goes for him.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I like Tyler, dude.

[Mike Vrabel]

Oh, he don't. Yeah, he's harmless. The other one. The other one is out of his mind.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's gonna. He's gonna catch fire. Here.

[Mike Vrabel]

Plenty of ink. And they're, you know, I mean, they. They love the ink guy. I mean, they could thank Taylor for. For hooking him up. Joey, right?

[Taylor Lewan]

Joe, he was in town this past week. Make just.

[Will Compton]

That is right. Anytime Joey's in town, I feel like Carter's over at the house.

[Taylor Lewan]

So at first it was. I think you were like, hey, Carter wants to get some make. You got a guy, he comes in, right? So we kind of got them hooked up, and then eventually it became, Joey, text me and be like, hey, I'm coming into Nashville for a weekend. I'm like, what are you doing here?

[Mike Vrabel]

He's like, I think Tyler had him come to Atlanta, too, for a couple guys or something like that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, Joey just out there doing mercenary work for other guys, ripping it up.

[Will Compton]

I got a question for you.

[Mike Vrabel]

Come on.

[Will Compton]

You are. You're big on culture and painting. A clear vision, whether it's a weekly game plan or whether you're coming in for the first time as a head coach and kind of painting how the organization is going to be. What is the best advice you've received on building culture? Whether you've been a fly on the wall, witnessing something or you've kind of learned in conversation with a former coach.

[Mike Vrabel]

Here's what I've learned. I've learned that we can have different personalities, we can have different mentalities, and sometimes. What's that, buddy?

[Taylor Lewan]

That's a bar.

[Mike Vrabel]

I just sometimes get caught up that we don't. That people may be different than me. I think I struggle with that early on. And now I've realized that if the mentality is the same, how they maybe act off the field or what their personality is or they may not be. You know, I would say that we all kind of have this similar personality. Right. Pretty close. But there's a lot of people and players that are successful that don't. And I have to be okay with that if ultimately their mentality is about the culture that we want to have here. I think that's what I've learned.

[Will Compton]

Would you say that's what you've learned? Is that growing pains as a head coach or is that more earlier in your assistant coaching?

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I mean, I think as a head, like as a head coach. Right. Whether it's, you know, just players that have different personalities but still got their job done and did it the way that we asked them to do it. But you have to be okay with, you know, kind of what their vibe is, just walking around. Let them. Yeah, they got to be them.

[Will Compton]

You excited to have Cardi B a couple of games this year?

[Mike Vrabel]

I don't. I thought that. I don't know. I haven't seen her yet. I haven't. Well, I'm sure we'll go. We'll double date. I'm sure we'll double date.

[Taylor Lewan]

You Jen, Cardi?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Friday out there.

[Mike Vrabel]

We'll see. I don't know.

[Taylor Lewan]

There's a level of excitement when you heard one of your plays is that dating a famous lady, like, oh, we have our own Taylor Swift now.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, I guess so. I meant, I don't. You know, I. I don't.

[Taylor Lewan]

You see the revenue from this past year, 16 billion extra in revenue.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Kind of started trending upwards in Kansas City.

[Mike Vrabel]

You know, I don't know. I mean, I'll see. I don't mean I try to meet everybody's family that comes, and a lot of people come out. If she's here, I'll say hi. I don't see how that goes.

[Taylor Lewan]

Fair enough. You. There was a big. We talk about this a lot in the podcast. Is 2018 rapes was a lot different than 20, 22 rapes. What variable are you or Is. Are the New England Patriots players getting. Are, like. Because you go walk into a place that has those banners on the wall.

[Mike Vrabel]

Probably somewhere between those two.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

You know, I think you just learn, and again, you're just trying to set things and make sure that, again, there's. There's an individual role that the player's trying to create, and then there's the. The idea of building a team, and I have to try to combine those two. Right. So do you evaluate treatment and all those things?

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, if you walked in the Titans facility and the culture was very, like, all over the place, very sporadic. We didn't really have an identity of who we were. When you walked into here, was there, like. Did you get the same sense of, like, culture?

[Mike Vrabel]

I needed to. I felt like it was important to make sure that all those systems and the programs and everybody around the players was sound. Right. That there was a structure there, that the support systems was sound and cleaned up. And then we focused on the players because the players aren't around in February. Everybody's gone. So it's like operations and video and equipment and training and player engagement. All these things that were set up that I wanted the players, when they came back, that they were. You know, they were. They liked what they saw. They believed in the program that we were building. And then. And then now we're. We're focused on the. On the football side of it.

[Taylor Lewan]

When you're going and you get the call and you're like, all right, I'm going to be the head coach of the New England Patriots, were you essentially like Ron Burgundy getting the band back together when you went and got Stretch and Frank and all the boys popping up, rolled over. You know what I mean? Rolling over. Calling Stretch, like, hey, I mean, get it.

[Mike Vrabel]

And I was, you know, some of those guys, you can get. Some of them you can't. Some guys are under contract. But again, those people are important to me and I hope to the players, they were part of our success. And certainly, you know, Stretches, he already had a feature article in the Boston Globe. I heard him. There's another one coming down the pipe, I heard.

[Taylor Lewan]

Almost getting big, huh?

[Mike Vrabel]

He is.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's starting to feel himself a little bit in that office right next to yours. He's looking for a window.

[Mike Vrabel]

He's getting a window. We're building a new building. He got a window next door.

[Taylor Lewan]

That article came out. Those were his demands.

[Mike Vrabel]

But, no, he's.

[Jack]

He's.

[Mike Vrabel]

You know how important Stretch is. And, you know, Frank and Ryan and all the assistant Coaches, we were able to get Big T and Hoss.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hoss.

[Mike Vrabel]

I think Hoss does a fantastic job. The O line room's got three good coaches in there, so just trying to give the players everything that they need. And. And, you know, we're big on connection and we think that's important, and hopefully we can continue to do that.

[Will Compton]

How about Bob Spillane? Bobby getting another stint with Bob Spillane. Him being undrafted, not making.

[Mike Vrabel]

I told him the other day, I was like, I said, after you knocked the shit out of Derek, I said, you stop hitting. He's like, what do you try to get serious? You know, remember when he smoked Derek? And so then I was like, after you smoke Derek, I said, you haven't hit anybody since then. He's like, what are you talking. I was like, dude, I said, you're too easy, man. Just relax.

[Taylor Lewan]

I was just calm down.

[Mike Vrabel]

He's like, you try to get my blood pressure up all the time.

[Will Compton]

No, but that's been awesome to see. He signed what, like a 33 million dollar deal?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. I mean, everybody's got their own journey to the National Football League.

[Will Compton]

And I know you've used all your meetings.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. We don't care how you got here. All we care about is what you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Do when you're here.

[Will Compton]

I cut your ass back in 2018 under.

[Mike Vrabel]

It was a rookie minicamp tryout.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Crazy. Those are like. You're doing those as like, favors. Like get the guy a hat and a T shirt and send him on his way. And now here he is, just came.

[Taylor Lewan]

In doing his thing, signing a contract. Got Harold. Who else you got?

[Mike Vrabel]

Jack, Dr. Gibbons, Dr. Gibby.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Which crazy. Now we have Gibson and a Gibbons. We have Antonio Gibson. So It's Gibby and Dr. Gibby.

[Will Compton]

One didn't go to Jack's, got the.

[Mike Vrabel]

Doctor, get every answer in the book. That guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

You. Every year around this time, you pop up a film. The. That gets you beat film from the year prior. What are like three or four key plays you saw in last season that you pull up in the screen? You're like, guys, this is the. That gets you beat.

[Mike Vrabel]

Not being able to take advantage of bad football. Right. Two minute execution. Those are big ones. Guys throwing the ball to the official, you know, celebrating after a gain as the clock's ticking and you're 30 yards from field goal range, ball security. Right. All those things. I mean, it's the same stuff. It is the same stuff. Just try to build an identity around our effort and the way that we finish, you know, I Think Taylor will remember. It's hard to finish when you're playing, looking back for the ball or you're directing traffic and all those things we talk about.

[Taylor Lewan]

Absolutely.

[Mike Vrabel]

But taking care of the football, right? Being able to take care of the football. I still think fundamentals are important. I think technique's important, offensive lines, a technical position, you know, and then again, whether it's don't do dumb shit to hurt the team or a softer, gentler version is making great decisions on and off the field, I don't know. We had some opportunities to have a scrimmage on Friday. Guys got excited, you know, taunting, free 15 yards, pointing in somebody's face, you know, throwing the guns up. All that stuff. Just things that, you know, it would just. It's hard to be that good for all that stuff to. To not matter. That stuff has to matter. And we'll get there. I'm confident that we will.

[Will Compton]

There's always some good Friday tape.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, we're not there yet. We're so far from Friday tape. Just because, you know, we're at the ground floor.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

You know, we'll break out the first one. We did have a good meeting. We split the teams up. We had a draft, and we put together, like, a draft reveal, Right. For this scrimmage on Friday night, we had, like, a draft reveal. So we split the coaches up, had two separate head coaches. They drafted Stretch and I were like, the commissioners of the draft. And then they had. We put all these funny pictures of these guys from high school and all this other stuff. And I was like, Johnny Carson going through, like, on the reveal, and they had the draft music, and, I mean, the guys had fun, like, some. Remember when you didn't know if I was, like, joking or not joking? So I would be like, you can laugh for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

It's okay.

[Mike Vrabel]

We're still a date.

[Will Compton]

We're on stage.

[Mike Vrabel]

We're still there, where I'm like, if it's funny, laugh. And I mean, I kind of go back and forth, and they're not sure when I go to the joke. So I let it loose the other day. A lot of laughs. And it was. It was needed.

[Will Compton]

Well, because you'll be caught in the middle of a. You're breaking down film and team meetings and you're roasting, and it's like, you know, you're, like, holding in your laughter because, like, this is a serious moment. Then when you throw a joke, it's.

[Mike Vrabel]

Like, yeah, then laugh. Right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Are we allowed to do this now? Is it because you will. You do like to flip on a dime.

[Mike Vrabel]

Head on a swim.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right, right. You'd be like, taylor, what are we doing here? We pay you how much? I'm like, this is awful. You're terrible. Blah, blah, paraphrasing. And you'll be like saying all these things. You'll be like doing your podcast with your boy Will. Am I right? Will is.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

What are we.

[Will Compton]

What are we doing?

[Taylor Lewan]

So we get. It's a. It's. It's a process. It's a process.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

How many show Are you guys traveling a lot?

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Where were you before this?

[Taylor Lewan]

So we.

[Will Compton]

We had some time off. When was our last.

[Taylor Lewan]

We knocked out tight end you at the last week of June.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And so then I went to Canada.

[Mike Vrabel]

You guys were basically the ball boys for that thing, weren't you? I saw you, like, run around, just.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, whatever. They needed water.

[Mike Vrabel]

I know.

[Taylor Lewan]

No job too big. No job too small.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Wow. What's going on?

[Mike Vrabel]

I. I mean, it just looked like. I mean, every. Every clip you guys were there, like, with water towels. It was hot.

[Will Compton]

We're there to serve, man.

[Mike Vrabel]

It looked like it. You were serving.

[Will Compton]

We're giving back to the youth ball washing. You said Taylor Swift is going to be there. Yeah, we can.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, we can. We can hang out. We can hang out.

[Will Compton]

We can open. We can.

[Mike Vrabel]

There's a concert. Sure. We'll go our cameras there.

[Taylor Lewan]

Okay, good.

[Will Compton]

Can we bring all.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

And then what other teams? You've been to any other teams?

[Will Compton]

You're our first one. Then we got maiden voyage.

[Mike Vrabel]

Huh?

[Taylor Lewan]

This is it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Virgin territory.

[Taylor Lewan]

Here we are.

[Will Compton]

It was always once. Once you got hired, it was circled. We gotta get up.

[Mike Vrabel]

It's funny. Like, I don't.

[Taylor Lewan]

Go back up.

[Mike Vrabel]

Like, all you have to do is just text daddy. I'll text you back whether you guys can come. You know, that's the problem.

[Will Compton]

Jokes. But we met. We texted or we met Victoria out at the draft. She was awesome.

[Taylor Lewan]

Veronica.

[Will Compton]

Oh, Veronica, I'm so sorry. That was so.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hey, it's all right. Hey, it's all right. Hey, you're gonna. You're gonna muscle through that. But we met them at the draft and they were really excited. They were. Obviously seemed like you may have been talking about saying some nice things. So we were like. Well, I did.

[Mike Vrabel]

I showed that clip where. Will you showed him the. The clip that I sent about the cost fumble on the goal line?

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah, I told him about it. I didn't run a meeting and show him. I wanted to, but you showed the team.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I didn't show the team. No.

[Taylor Lewan]

You showing any man reaches.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Reaches from like I don't know, like 1890.

[Mike Vrabel]

We had a pod drill in there.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Oh, probably not good then. Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Oh, you know what? It showed the fit drill and you. And you got overextended and you got jerked. Remember the fit drill? The rock set?

[Taylor Lewan]

Which. Can I be honest with you, now that we're on the other side. Yeah, I think that's a dumb drill.

[Mike Vrabel]

I don't. I think the past is good. Right?

[Taylor Lewan]

Because again, you're staying level. Like I'm never in this position.

[Mike Vrabel]

I didn't mean to stay level. No, you talking about not on the, not on the cutoff on like just the rock set. Right where we snap out.

[Taylor Lewan]

Also, it also a dumb drill again.

[Mike Vrabel]

Because you got overextended and then got jerked. It wasn't a dumb drill. It was bad technique because if you.

[Taylor Lewan]

And I are both going at each other, we're going and we're fitting and then we're setting. But they already know what's happening and they know as soon as I said. Right.

[Mike Vrabel]

But I didn't say get overextended and get.

[Taylor Lewan]

No. Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Shoulders out over.

[Taylor Lewan]

There's a technique involved.

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[Mike Vrabel]

All I'm saying, all it is, right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hands inside. The.

[Mike Vrabel]

The jerk and the transition.

[Taylor Lewan]

And then you want my. You want my base to be a little bit.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

A little bit more of a. Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

You were kind of out over your.

[Taylor Lewan]

Skis, but you didn't show. Did you show any man reaches?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, I did. I mean, I think we showed if.

[Taylor Lewan]

You could do this.

[Mike Vrabel]

You did, yeah. Couple pulls out on the corner. His highlights were like talking shit to a Cornerback that was 35 years old.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

Run it again, Taylor. We can only run so many tossed cracks again. I don't know how you get on the corner. I don't know how you get on the corner.

[Taylor Lewan]

Truck.

[Mike Vrabel]

Truck. We can only get you on the corner so many times. Gonna have to block the end a couple times.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, no, no.

[Mike Vrabel]

It's a taxi.

[Taylor Lewan]

Let's not do that. Yeah. Oh, I loved it. Perimeter playing, man. It was just fun to kind of be out there, feel like an athlete for a little bit. It was nice. What have you seen from.

[Mike Vrabel]

Remember the. The Thai Sambrello 4? I cut off. I was like, this is how we supposed to do it.

[Taylor Lewan]

I showed everybody, actually. Great on the four eye.

[Mike Vrabel]

I know.

[Taylor Lewan]

Great on the four eyes.

[Mike Vrabel]

So we're showing some of that. We showed you on the backside.

[Taylor Lewan]

Thanks.

[Mike Vrabel]

Getting vertical, you know, Cincinnati stretch cut behind you.

[Taylor Lewan]

All right, good.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Don't worry, you know, you just.

[Mike Vrabel]

I just don't call you and tell you every time.

[Taylor Lewan]

You just hope you made enough.

[Mike Vrabel]

We put press, showed Will slice in the 7 Clinic tape.

[Will Compton]

He didn't finish. He's got to catch the ball.

[Taylor Lewan]

Can you explain slicing the seven real quick for the viewers that are sitting.

[Will Compton]

Here just transitioning out? We were mugged up, too. We were down in the line of scrimmage and they had, you know, it was double, double, near gun or weak side. Bunch and running back went flat. So you just know ERZ is about to run a 7 route. We're an OT. We're trying to make. We're trying to win this game. Third down.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And around the sticks. Once I saw the flat route, I'm like, oh, I'm going to slice up under, so I'm inside. I'm trying to go through the low hip to slice underneath the tight end. Slice it. Ball hits me in the hands. I drop it. However, third down. We're off the field. We go down. Corey Davis catches a touchdown. We all celebrate in the corner for the protection for the boys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Boy, the boys.

[Mike Vrabel]

That was crazy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Mike Vrabel]

That game.

[Taylor Lewan]

What you need to do, Mitch, on that clip is you just need to have it on Michaels Mike's face as he's talking, because you could just see the smile while Will's explaining the entire situation. Yeah. Proud. Very proud.

[Mike Vrabel]

But we had. You've heard the story of his recruiting trip, Right. We had breakfast at the hotel, and then we basically did the deal. I was thinking about, you know, we basically negotiated that contract over breakfast. Me and you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. The same agent, right?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

It just.

[Mike Vrabel]

It wasn't a very big contract.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hey, stay strong.

[Will Compton]

That was the most good one. The most I had in my career, though.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

That was bad season. You thought you were throwing out nickels. He was picking, but then they drafted.

[Will Compton]

Rashawn in the first round. I'm sitting at a bar in Germantown. I'm like, me.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I know what time it is.

[Taylor Lewan]

Going back to the draft.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yep.

[Taylor Lewan]

And I'm sure I'll get a very probably. Yeah, I'll get the answer. We're probably all expecting to get when the A.J. brown trade happened.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

And there you see the video. You see you stand up.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I mean, listen, that. That is.

[Taylor Lewan]

But also two days before that, you're like, as long as I'm the head coach of this team, Major Brown will be a wide receiver.

[Mike Vrabel]

I didn't want to. Obviously, nobody wanted to. To have him walk out of there. You know, I mean, the contractual terms weren't going to. You know, it just. It didn't work out, and it's disappointing. The thing that I am most proud of is just still the relationship with AJ and players that I've coached, whether it be you guys or other players that, you know, continue to text or check in on or just think about when they're in the summer or what they're doing or their families or you see that they're having kids. Like, I think that's. That's important. And I'm glad that that's still something that happens. Right. That there's still some sort of relationship after, you know, after coaching them, allegedly.

[Will Compton]

There's some footage out there of.

[Taylor Lewan]

Will.

[Will Compton]

Campbell, you getting put on your back from old Will campbell.

[Mike Vrabel]

I'm almost 50 I'll be 50 and I don't know, 12 days, 10 days.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did you expect that, though?

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I just, you know, I mean, it was a four eye, right? I was going into four eye and it was the backside cut off and he got going and I caught my foot. I didn't get my second step in the ground. What am I gonna do? Hop back up? Like, we all get knocked down.

[Will Compton]

I loved it too.

[Mike Vrabel]

Did you say that? I loved it. I just was like, that was a good rap.

[Will Compton]

But I just, you know, give him a pat.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, I mean, get back on the line. Let's go again.

[Will Compton]

I mean, you got to get one back.

[Taylor Lewan]

You went extra hard on that next one. Oh, yeah. You think you get.

[Mike Vrabel]

I mean, it happens. He was more of a three that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Next time we got to shade it in a little bit.

[Mike Vrabel]

Pad back. Yeah, it's not, it's not like, you know, I was fine. I popped back up. Everybody else thought, you know, I mean, thought it was a bigger deal than I did.

[Taylor Lewan]

You're saying a lesser man would have stayed down?

[Will Compton]

I mean, he would have never done that to me.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, you're right. I mean, it was a good, it was a good block. He got into it, got the backhand in the sternum and I didn't get my second step on the ground and I ass over tea kettle.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. It was like six, seven yards. It was. It was awesome to see. We need that clip.

[Mike Vrabel]

Have you seen it?

[Will Compton]

He showed it to us.

[Mike Vrabel]

But Will showed you the clip.

[Taylor Lewan]

Hold on.

[Will Compton]

Somebody did. Somebody did.

[Mike Vrabel]

You're snitching. He showed you the clip.

[Taylor Lewan]

You haven't seen anything.

[Mike Vrabel]

He has it on his phone.

[Taylor Lewan]

We haven't seen.

[Will Compton]

JP showed me the clip.

[Mike Vrabel]

Jp, he was probably all gassed up. I'll get him back. Don't worry.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's what I'm afraid.

[Will Compton]

Hey, he was. Hey, where's it Will? He was gassed.

[Mike Vrabel]

He was pumped.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

He said, hey, boys, once I get done with this little two minute drill, I'm sorry, I'm laying it all out there, Willie. Well, he's like, once I get done, I gotta show you guys a clip that I think you'll enjoy.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, I bet.

[Will Compton]

And he had me over there and.

[Taylor Lewan]

I was like, I started to walk out and we're like, hey, you said you had a clip for us. Like, I'm like, I don't. Came over. New era. We just do interviews. How are you trying to get it out, man? Come on in.

[Will Compton]

They laid it on the line.

[Mike Vrabel]

They laid it on the line for Me? I got to go on the show.

[Will Compton]

You got to come on the show.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Good to see you, man.

[Will Compton]

Good to see you, man.

[Taylor Lewan]

I'm fine. I just wanted to bust. Oh, you don't want to. Oh, okay. That's fine.

[Will Compton]

We only have them for. I think we.

[Mike Vrabel]

Stacy's got the time limit. It's time.

[Will Compton]

How about Victoria?

[Taylor Lewan]

At the time, we have.

[Will Compton]

Veronica. Veronica.

[Taylor Lewan]

I know. That was a. That was a.

[Mike Vrabel]

Come on.

[Will Compton]

Sorry. Come on. I got. I got local media, Bud Light. You know how everybody. Anybody would do anything for a Bud Light? An ice cold Bud Light. What would coach Variable.

[Mike Vrabel]

No free shout outs.

[Will Compton]

What would Coach Variable do anything for?

[Taylor Lewan]

Can't say family.

[Mike Vrabel]

Can't say family. I mean, obviously, another banner up there, like, that's.

[Will Compton]

What would you do for that banner?

[Mike Vrabel]

We've discussed this already.

[Will Compton]

I know.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, but what else.

[Mike Vrabel]

What else would I do?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, for the banner.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, I'm gonna work every day. I meant cutting off any more appendages. You know what I mean? Like, that's. That's why we're doing this, you know, other than to. To provide for our families. It's to win championships. Like, you guys know this spiel. We've been through this. You guys are trained. You guys are trained rats.

[Taylor Lewan]

Would you really cut it off?

[Will Compton]

He already said on the second one, he's. We asked.

[Taylor Lewan]

Well, yeah, because we went to the AFC Championship.

[Mike Vrabel]

He said. That's it. Boys, I want an honest evaluation of practice. What? I got to go. I got to work.

[Will Compton]

Can I tell you something?

[Mike Vrabel]

I want an honest evaluation of practice, obviously. And if I'm missing anything, let me know.

[Taylor Lewan]

Let you know.

[Will Compton]

Obviously, you got to create the evidence and build the legacy and everything else, but I'm legitimately so juiced that you were the head coach of the Patriots just because you were a hell of a player at Ohio State. You were a hell of a player in the league with the three banners and the three Super Bowls, and I hope. I hope. Hang on, hang on. This one's for Jen, too. I hope you take time to just have perspective of how fucking cool.

[Mike Vrabel]

Well, I appreciate that. I will try to stop and smell the roses along the way. I hope you guys come back for a game. Promise. Okay. Proud of you.

[Will Compton]

Can I get a.

[Mike Vrabel]

Can I get a headset?

[Will Compton]

I'll stay out of the way.

[Mike Vrabel]

You can have stretches.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

Drake May, welcome the bus with the boys. Oh, Jesus. You set them up.

[Taylor Lewan]

Up.

[Will Compton]

You set it up.

[Taylor Lewan]

You slap his leg?

[Will Compton]

No.

[Taylor Lewan]

Okay. Drake, May, what's going on? How you doing?

[Jack]

Hanging in there? Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

All right.

[Will Compton]

Oh, dude, we're doing great.

[Taylor Lewan]

Give me Josh Allen vibes. Already off the top. I'll be honest with you. You got a nice little personality.

[Jack]

He's a heck of a player.

[Taylor Lewan]

Heck of a player. Give me the team keys when you're talking to the media.

[Jack]

Talking to the media, yeah. Per variable team keys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack]

Speak for myself.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jack]

No talking about injuries.

[Taylor Lewan]

That's correct.

[Jack]

No talking about expectations.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right. What's that?

[Jack]

No talk about scheme.

[Taylor Lewan]

Don't talk about scheme. Is there another one?

[Will Compton]

You're on it.

[Taylor Lewan]

You seem like there was one more. That was all of them.

[Jack]

No comparisons. The same. It's kind of expectations comparisons.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah. No comparison.

[Jack]

Same type thing. Same as when y' all played.

[Taylor Lewan]

What's that?

[Jack]

Same one.

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Do you see yourself a lot in Josh Allen? Do you guys think you're very similar football players, both mobile, tall, handsome, you.

[Jack]

Know, he's the mvp. I think the comparisons are. I got a lot of work to do, you know, with kind of even being in the same, you know, stratosphere or atmosphere as Josh. So luckily in the division, so we got some good matchups looking forward to. But really comparisons. I'm just trying to be myself. And hey, at the end of the day, if some people think that, I mean, that's a lot of respect for him. But I got a lot of work to do for that.

[Taylor Lewan]

That. Let's pivot real quick on the sports, though. I apologize for interrupting you, Will you and Josh Allen, one on one, pick up basketball. Who's winning that game?

[Jack]

I think myself as a. Hooping. Yeah, and hoops for sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

Who do you think? Josh Allen, the night before the draft was in a YMCA playing pickup basketball. Pat.

[Jack]

Did Pat tell you that?

[Taylor Lewan]

We have our sources.

[Jack]

Exactly.

[Will Compton]

Time out. Time out. What are we talking About.

[Taylor Lewan]

So Drake, the day it was in Detroit, Correct. The day before he gets drafted. First round pick by the New England Patriots. He's at an indoor gym at a YMCA playing pickup basketball with a bunch of gen pop. Just trying to get.

[Will Compton]

What's your stats? What was your numbers?

[Jack]

My brothers were in there, so we had some good competition. But just get the nerves you're going, you know, you and the brothers pick. I don't know if will. Yeah, you know, kind of being at the draft, you know, being there, I'm not sure.

[Taylor Lewan]

You get nervous. You get nervous whether you get. Whether you're there, where the drafts happening or you're sitting at home. It doesn't matter.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I mean, I was nervous. I have nerds for three days.

[Taylor Lewan]

Let me ask you. Let me ask you.

[Will Compton]

Disappointment.

[Taylor Lewan]

Was there a piece of you ever throughout, like when you're going to the draft process day one hit, you're like, what if, though?

[Will Compton]

100%. I want to say Bill Belichick got some projected guy. He was like in the lower rounds, and he drafted him in the second round. And on the first. On the first night, the Chargers called me being like, I kind of forget what the hell the conversation went. But I'm like, maybe I'm a day two guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

No shit.

[Will Compton]

Then they drafted Manta Teo.

[Taylor Lewan]

Damn. Manta had.

[Will Compton]

He was a great player. Great player. I played longer, but he's a great player.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, he had the build, though. Yeah, he had the build on him.

[Will Compton]

Sturdy.

[Taylor Lewan]

Were you surprised that the Patriots drafted you?

[Jack]

I think I was just pumped, you know, kind of the feelings. You just want to get drafted somewhere. So I was really just pumped. I think I knew there's a chance possibly here, you know, what a great legacy this place has been. And hopefully we're trying to get back to that.

[Will Compton]

What's the first several months been like with Coach Rabel?

[Jack]

Yeah, it's been awesome. I mean, y' all know it's. It's hostile now.

[Will Compton]

Oh, we know it's awesome.

[Jack]

You gotta bring. You gotta bring it and leave your egos at the door. I'm sure y'.

[Taylor Lewan]

All.

[Jack]

I'm sure he checked y' all a few times with personalities of y' all too, but I think, you know, we watch old film with Big Taylor was in there watching Padre. We watching you over there.

[Will Compton]

How was he doing?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, how'd I do? How'd I do?

[Jack]

I think he may got hurt or something.

[Taylor Lewan]

Who knows? Oh, damn.

[Will Compton]

You know, and I, when Brave was answering the question, talking about how he had a Drill up of you and positive you got over leverage. I'm thinking to myself, you know, Ray was just loving the fact that he could kind of just body bag you in front of some other.

[Taylor Lewan]

And the fact that it's like, that's not for anybody else. Like, I know five people on this football team. That was for Braves and Stretch. Yeah. And Hoss.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Kind of laugh. Be like, look at that idiot right there.

[Jack]

No, but I saw the first pitch. Dude, come on.

[Taylor Lewan]

Bro.

[Jack]

You kind of look like good form. Look like a little bit of Randy Johnson, and then just let it go.

[Will Compton]

A little too early. It was kind of.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

I had to bring my show. You know, redemption's coming.

[Jack]

Really?

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't know if we can say the date yet, but it is this month. I'll be catching redemption.

[Jack]

Where was that? What game was that at?

[Taylor Lewan]

The redemption?

[Jack]

No, the game that you just threw.

[Taylor Lewan]

Oh, that was at. In St. Louis.

[Jack]

Yeah, St. Louis.

[Taylor Lewan]

And, buddy, I'll tell you this.

[Jack]

How the nerves. Free nerves.

[Taylor Lewan]

No, I was like, I'm about to rip this.

[Jack]

Really?

[Taylor Lewan]

I'm about to throw this thing. High 60s. Yeah. Yeah. Which was good for me. And I walked out there, Buddy was standing behind the mountain. Just so you know, I'm gonna rip this thing. He was like, didn't even say a word. And then that happened. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm still in disbelief. And I think I'm, like, kind of getting the yips now, too. Like, I go play catch, and I'm like, I'll put a couple in Will's chest, and then there'll be one. Oh, Buddy. I practice.

[Will Compton]

I make Will every day.

[Jack]

Really?

[Taylor Lewan]

I get. I get to the shop, we do work, and then I'm like, come play catch with me.

[Jack]

That's really bad.

[Will Compton]

So we'll see.

[Taylor Lewan]

See?

[Will Compton]

We'll see.

[Taylor Lewan]

Have you ever thought. No.

[Jack]

I thought about throwing a curveball or something one time.

[Taylor Lewan]

You throw it at a first pitch.

[Jack]

Yeah, I haven't thrown one, but if I did, I'd throw a curveball or something.

[Will Compton]

You a baseball guy growing up?

[Jack]

Yeah, Baseball guy.

[Will Compton]

You have a whole family of them?

[Jack]

I got a bunch.

[Will Compton]

I saw one story where it was like, what was it? People magazine, where your mom would make, like, 36 eggs for you guys?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

It'd just be a war.

[Jack]

We got some big dudes, big fellas rolling around. So a bunch of hooligans.

[Taylor Lewan]

Who's the most athletic in your family?

[Jack]

You think part of mom. I'm speaking for my mom, but, you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Know, Dad's Punching air right now.

[Jack]

My dad's. He's old and fat now.

[Will Compton]

So you give it to yourself over the other brothers?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack]

They'd say the same.

[Will Compton]

They would, yeah.

[Jack]

They know what's up or they just.

[Will Compton]

Pounding the steering wheel right now as they listen.

[Jack]

No, no, my brother's definitely. Tune in. My brother's a big fan of the bus with the boys.

[Will Compton]

Let's go.

[Taylor Lewan]

Patrick playing the Titans, I think. Was Collins there? Was Pat Collins there?

[Jack]

Yeah, he was there.

[Taylor Lewan]

We came down. I just to go meet his brother just like. Because he was that big of a fan of us. And I was like, yeah, I'll go down there for sure. Absolutely. And we met the night. That night before at the Peg Leg Porker. Yeah. Troy Noons.

[Jack]

Exactly.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Bring it back to Braves. I need a pet peeve.

[Taylor Lewan]

What pisses you off about Mike or.

[Will Compton]

Or how about this? What? Instead of what pisses you off about Coach Rabel, what would piss Coach Rabel off about you? Or what would be a pet peeve of raves that he has of you.

[Jack]

Not celebrating after we score.

[Taylor Lewan]

They did go viral, didn't it?

[Jack]

Yeah, he just. Which I agree. I mean, it's hard to get in the end zone.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I think you saw the clip. We didn't score enough of them last year, so. Just getting excited. I think it's. There's so much mental game going on in the game, you know, within practice, playing qb. So just getting excited when you do something good, that's tough. You know, I think I need to do a better job of that.

[Will Compton]

What goes through your brain when you score?

[Jack]

Hard to simulate, you know, in practice when it's actually a real touchdown game. You know, it's easier to run down there with the boys, but. But you know, the old line's got to run down there. Like, oh, I got run 15 yards back.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jack]

It's tough for those guys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Cruising over there.

[Jack]

Exactly.

[Will Compton]

Celebrating after touchdowns.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. The. I saw you throw a few touchdowns today in the red zone.

[Jack]

Try to.

[Taylor Lewan]

And I didn't see you run into the end zone and celebrate.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

So is that a coachable, coachability thing or is that just. Hey, we're in. This is not a team, period.

[Jack]

No. Yeah. It was seven. It was one on one. Seven. I think. Still get some excitement. For sure. What were the things that y' all did back in the day? He got mad at.

[Will Compton]

Oh, me.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Everybody Just being on social media.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

He'd bring up posts every now and then.

[Jack]

He put up.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. There was one time where it was like, Darren Bates was injured, and so he was sitting out of walk through, and in my brain, he was just getting one over. I'm like, oh, you're just. You're just wanting to chill like you ain't in that bad of shape. So I. I bought this neck brace on Amazon, and then I, like, took a video because he had, like, the yellow jersey on. I'm telling him, hey, throw this on. Throw this on. Where the neck brace. And we're kind of busting his balls in the locker room, and I'm videoing it. I put it up on social, and he texted me later that night, and he said, you think this was smart? And, dude, fear just filled the entire part of my body as I'm sitting there looking on how I should respond Back to variable. Kind of like, is he kind of messing with me? Should I, like, send a joke back? Because we all know he's playing like, it's all good, and he put it up in the TV the next day. My asshole was. Was. Was tight. My asshole was tight.

[Taylor Lewan]

You walk in that team meeting room, it's really the first one when you come back for OTAs, because everyone's kind of done their thing. Maybe you post something in January. He knows. John Stryker knows, and he will show. Mike Raymond.

[Will Compton]

Oh, Stretch.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, he's the op.

[Jack]

He's on it.

[Taylor Lewan]

He is on it. Dude, he is dialed in, I think.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he's the op.

[Taylor Lewan]

I don't think you understand how much of a win it is for you guys to have Stretch on this team just yet. Like, you guys will realize how big of a win it is to have, but he's definitely the opinion. I had a time Bill o' Brien got fired from Houston, and I was commenting on how I was, like, fired up about him getting fired. And Braves, like, called me and chewed me out. Yeah. For, like, five minutes about how disrespectful that is. And I don't know, Bill and all this stuff. And that was. Walking in the next day was very difficult. It was. It was scary. But I saw him the next day, he, like, pat me on the ass and walk down the hallway. So he's kind of always doing this, and you just don't really know what to do.

[Will Compton]

He bullies you until he knows you're broken a little bit.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And kind of all stepping on egg, walking on eggshells. And then that's when he buddies you up and he's like, why aren't you laughing? It's a joke, and it's like, Christ.

[Taylor Lewan]

Well, he was. He was sitting here with us before Yalls practice, being like, you know how it is. They don't know that I'm joking yet and stuff like that. So, you know, I'll tell him, hey, if it's funny, you can laugh in the team meeting room. And I'm thinking, we're still there. Like, we've known you since 2018. We still, like, kind of when he walks in the room, like, what kind of day are we having? That's how rape likes.

[Jack]

I saw that. I saw the clip of you. Y' all about to fight in the bus. You like your chances, you think against rape?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I don't know. I got too much respect to think that I could take him.

[Jack]

It's almost like, as a friendly gesture.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And then he got a little.

[Taylor Lewan]

He's got a little real.

[Will Compton]

And it's kind of like he's just got the power dynamic of father, son, you know what I mean? It's like, hey, Will, do you think you can whoop your old man? It's like you just don't. You don't really go there mentally. And then when he bulks up, it's kind of like he's a long. Oh, he's a specimen. Hands to scratch his knees a little bit.

[Taylor Lewan]

You saying. You saying brave is your daddy right now?

[Will Compton]

I'm saying he's got. That's the type of respect that I have for him as a human being, as a father. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I see him as, like, a father figure.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. We. So, you know, we swap text in the off season. He checks on the family and stuff. He's like a mentor of mine.

[Taylor Lewan]

I love that.

[Will Compton]

So I just appreciate him.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You know what I mean? You know, hey, don't get sensitive on me. Braves.

[Jack]

Like, how would you say ship is different with raves between the two of you?

[Taylor Lewan]

He likes Will a lot more than me. Yeah, he, like, I. He. I think he definitely views me as, like, he coached me really hard when he got there, and I was like, he'll lighten up eventually. And it never really happened. And then I, like, got cut eventually, and it's kind of just not stopped. Yeah, Will was like, they brought Will in. He was doing the core four. He was, like, light and did the variable thing, and that went over really well. And then once Will was out of the building, Rabel was like, that's my guy, and I'm. I'm Will's buddy. But that Will is Rabe's friend. Does that make sense?

[Will Compton]

Taylor was an asset that they needed to produce at the highest level at all times. So when he'd get injured, I'm sure that kind of plays into the psyche of what his view was of Taylor. Like, I'm an asset, but I'm more of an asset. Like, you know, like one of those.

[Taylor Lewan]

What was a jester, you know, first off, jester's the people that would entertain the camp.

[Will Compton]

What's the animal that you keep? They just, like, give you good vibes. They're there for you.

[Taylor Lewan]

Golden retriever.

[Will Compton]

No, support.

[Taylor Lewan]

Emotional support.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. Like, my asset ability was like, being the support animal in the locker room.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, yeah. And Will, you know, just. Will was a locker room guy. So Rabes would always be like, we're gonna hold our high or our best players to the highest standard or whatever. That's like his phrase. He always says. And he would call me in his office, hey, what's up, Brave Braves? I'm trying to be buddies. Yeah, always trying to be buddies. No, he'd be like, come in here real quick. He pull up some film. We just sit in silence for a little bit while I play some. A couple plays of me, like, not doing well. He goes, we hold our best players to the highest standard. Correct? Yes, sir. Is that the highest standard? No. All right. I need you to play better next week. Yeah. Okay. And there'd be games, too. I, like, walk away from games. I'm like, bro, I. That was a game.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

I kind of have myself a little, you know, I think, like, four or five players, and I really put that guy in the dirt. I was good in protection, but blah. I felt good about it. And as I'm, like, truly feeling good about myself, I'm getting a text from Braves Be like, need you to be better next week. And it was always. It was always that Will. I would. I would sit over and watch Will and Braves be like, how the Do I get to that?

[Will Compton]

I just had to get a couple tackles on special teams.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Or slice of seven.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Once a game or something.

[Taylor Lewan]

Because we. When he sat here, I was like, hey, man, you showing some man reaches. He's like, I showed a pod drill shows you getting overextended on a play action. There's some good clips just killing me.

[Will Compton]

But that's kind of the difference in dynamic. But this is about this podcast. You're doing very well and asking questions about us now. We're getting the fire more time with.

[Jack]

Them than I have.

[Will Compton]

Take us through the process last year, being thrown into the fire because on the outside, it seemed like when you got drafted, you were going to be somebody who was kind of like, maybe groomed and on the sideline throughout the season.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Then the season was going the way it was. You had Coach Mayo. He was. He was in his first year. Then you kind of get thrusted and thrown into the fire. Was that something that you expected or what was the learning curve as that decision was made?

[Jack]

No, I think, you know, we had the Texans here at home, so it was a good, you know, in front of home crowd, you get thrown to the fire. I think it's something that, like, man, let's see what I got. I think it's. You go out there and you see Daniel Hunter, Will Anderson, you know, when you go out there in your first drive, you're like, all right, this is the NFL. You know what I'm saying?

[Will Compton]

Specimens, especially Hunter.

[Taylor Lewan]

Dudes. Dude.

[Jack]

Yeah. Good guy.

[Taylor Lewan]

He looks like a robot.

[Jack]

So I think, you know, from there, I think just ultimate confidence. I think that's what I think you kind of preach to yourself. You do all that practice, do all this training camp, go out there and just live bullets, see what. See what you got. And, you know, I think, you know, the biggest thing is these guys, and we still played hard. You know, I think we, you know, we're in some close games and, you know, season didn't go the way we wanted, but these guys fought hard. I think, especially those guys up front. They fought for me hard, and, you know, the least I could do was get back and go out there and compete and, you know, leave it all out there. So that's my approach to it, and it's not going to change.

[Will Compton]

Was there ever a moment of discouragement during your rookie year? Like, as you guys are out there and you're performing, whether up to your standard or not, you guys are losing close games.

[Jack]

You know, once you really hit, I think kind of the, you know, 10 losses in a season, you know, it's tough. You got there and you're out there playing. You probably know in the back of your mind, you're not going to make the playoffs. You're out there playing a, you know, a gruesome game, and you're out there just battling. And I think that's really what you kind of find in these guys, like, who can I really go to war with? And I think that's what, you know, I was trying to approach it myself. Like, these guys are going to see me. Am I still competing hard and, you know, scrambling around and trying to make plays or just going to throw in the dirt and keep back up and punt. And so I think that's kind of is what I kind of used last year as you obviously want to, you know, win, you know, more games this year and that's our plan. So I think everybody feels good now. So it's going into, you know, week one to see, you know, when the real bullets go.

[Taylor Lewan]

Time to me about that rookie wall. When you're sitting there in the middle of November, possibly like walking into December, you know, you're out of the playoffs. Like you say you're, you know, you 10 losses, you're probably not gonna be playoffs. Like you will not make the playoffs with 10 losses. And you see these guys, you know, you're 21 years old, you got these guys that are in their 30s. They kind of know.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

So you see guys kind of talking about Cabo San Lucas all of a sudden, I'm going to go over here. What are we doing for a vacation? Like, like, what was that like from you? From like a. Just a going from college to NFL.

[Jack]

No doubt. It's different. I think even the first thing I noticed, these guys got families. You know, it's not the locker room in college where you're hanging out and going back to someone's place and, you know, watching football. Yeah, I think stuff like that, it's more like go back to your families and you leave here. And like I said, that rookie wall kind of after, you know, after the bowl season, you go straight to training and then you go straight to the draft prep. So it's a long year. Long years. These rookies, that's what I'm telling you. These guys on our team, you know, Will Campbell and those guys, it's a long year. And I think, you know, from there you give up here to Boston there been up here in the north and you get out of meetings at five o' clock and next thing you know it's dark outside and it's 15 degrees. I think that adds a whole different element of crazy, the morbidness up here of the winners. So I think that's really right around your teammates and you know, when you are in the building, try to make it as, you know, enjoyable as you can. And I think definitely you see guys not like you said, not checking out, but knowing kind of what's. What's in the end and kind of the light, the end of the tunnel is not, you know, looking, you know, too bright. I think you can see that in the NFL, which is, you know, credit them. These guys want to, you know, have, you know, longevity in the years and you know, credit their bodies and you know, you can see injuries is a big part of the game. So there's two sides to it. But hopefully nine's end situation.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

When you got like your routine in your first year and you hit the wall and everything like that, what are some changes you're making for yourself and you're in your daily routine during the football season?

[Jack]

Season, yeah, that's a great question. You know, I think Jacoby Brissette was someone great for me to learn from. You know, a veteran this league played in a bunch of different offenses. He's the man, you know, just hanging out outside. We should go to dinner. I think it's different. I got my wife up here now in the season, so it'll be different having her up here. But really just it's about ball, I think, trying to change, trying to find what's worked, kind of find a rhythm throughout the weeks and hopefully if you, you know, get w in the win column, just try to repeat it. And if not, you got to change something. Where Study more or less Tired of.

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[Jack]

Is it in you with the guys more? Do something. Do something different.

[Will Compton]

I have one more question for you, and I want to take you back to college your senior year. You're Drake May. Hey, is he going to go first overall? This kid's a specimen. He's this, he's that. You start off 7,080-ranked 10 in the country. Is this Drake May kid? Is he about it? And then Virginia and Georgia Tech happened. What the fuck happened against Virginia and Georgia Tech?

[Jack]

It was the same thing.

[Taylor Lewan]

Those are the kind of questions you get in a bus for the boys. Hard hitting journalism right there.

[Jack]

No, I think it was. It was tough. I think we. Twice, two years in a row. My last two years, two years I played, we lost to Georgia Tech at home. We ranked 10th in the country. We were like 9 and 1. And then we lost Virginia. That next year, we were like maybe seven or eight in the country at home. Yeah, I think it's.

[Taylor Lewan]

Christ.

[Jack]

It was kind of the story of North Carolina football really. You know, when I was there, we just couldn't find a way to get over the hump, kind of get into that next category of. Of wins and being that next kind of division of respect, you know, around the country for our football program. And I really think it was just unfortunate.

[Taylor Lewan]

This is my last question. What was your welcome to the NFL moment? But you got to go. They're saying you have to go, so you have to be fast.

[Jack]

I think the Neil Hunter. I think we came out of halftime. I just threw a touchdown. My first touchdown was 14 7. And we getting empty. And yeah, I get strip sacked to start off the half, the first play. And then from there it was kind of like, you know, holding the ball in this league, you got to get rid of it.

[Taylor Lewan]

So get rid of it, dude. Appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Yeah, appreciate you.

[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

Give him a round of applause, huh? Come on.

[Drake May]

I appreciate you guys having me on.

[Taylor Lewan]

Thank you. Absolutely. Dude.

[Will Compton]

Welcome to busting with the boys. I am personally fired up. I know Taylor's fired up as well, but just as an undrafted linebacker, you were a rookie minicamp tryout, like the gutter, the gutter of gutters. Rabe was kind of saying too. He's like the. The media camp trial. Guys like, you just have them there to be bodies for the people you bring in, the draft picks you bring in, and the other preferred undrafted free agents that you bring in, you weren't one of those. You got what an offer coming out of. Where'd you go to college?

[Drake May]

To Western Michigan.

[Will Compton]

To Western Michigan, bro. And now all the way to just signing a three year, 33 million dollar deal to be with the Patriots. A second stint with Coach Vrabel. We are proud of you, bro.

[Taylor Lewan]

Stoked.

[Drake May]

Definitely come a long way. It hasn't been easy. A lot of trials and tribulations. You know, when you start as an undrafted player, they. They look at you as an undrafted player for the remainder of your career. So I still have that chip on my shoulder. Every day I go out there, I tell myself, you're undrafted. You know, it's time to go earn it.

[Taylor Lewan]

When did you think you had? Obviously you tell you love ball and we tell a story. Told the story of the podcast multiple times of us sitting after. I think it was Pittsburgh preseason exception reception. Had like seven, eight, maybe even 10 tackles. And you're kind of walking by and we're like chopping it up in the corner a little. We're a little banged up and I'm like, hey, hey, man. Kind of did your thing out there and you kind of get a little nervous. You're like, I love football. And you kind of just kept it moving. And it's like we joked and laughed about it, but like, brother, that. Those are the guys that make it. The dudes that sit there and they're like, you have to truly love playing this game to be put in the position you were in the NFL and now to be sitting where you are now but at what point was it that rookie minicamp? Was it after your first year? When were you like, oh, I can. I think I can actually play in the NFL.

[Drake May]

I think our first practice as a team, when I got the veterans in there after rookie minicamp and I saw what the NFL was, I knew I had a chance to make it. I had that internal confidence right away that I am undrafted. I'm the ninth man on the roster, the 90th overall, the ninth in the linebacker corps. And I feel like I can make myself good enough to be good in this league one day.

[Will Compton]

But you get cut, then you go on practice squads, you get cut, I believe in October, if I remember right. And then you end up signing with Pittsburgh in the next February, like, after the season's over. So you're, you know, technically, the saying is you're on your couch for the rest of the season. Did doubt ever creep in your mind?

[Taylor Lewan]

Make sure you hit the mic a little close to your face. Yeah.

[Drake May]

It'S hard. It's hard when you get cut and you spend four months at home. You go out to LA for a tryout, they send you home without giving you a call back. You go out to Denver for a tryout, they send you home without getting a call back, go out to Pittsburgh for a tryout, and just as we're walking on the field with six inside linebackers, they sign one of them, they take one of them upstairs and say, we're gonna sign you in front of everybody. So I go out for the tryout, I leave without a call. I, in turn, decided to give them a call back and give them a piece of my mind and say, why the fuck did you bring me out here? What. What was the fucking point of bringing me out here if you already had your mind made up? And it was that energy, that fire that they saw in me, and two days later, they gave me an opportunity.

[Taylor Lewan]

What are they saying on the phone? So you call them, hey, patch me into Mike Tomlin.

[Drake May]

It wasn't Mike Tomlin. It was Kevin Colbert's son, the head. One of the head scouts that invited me to the tryout originally. And he called me, or I called him after the tryout saying, what was the point of you bringing out here? We just talked on the phone before I got out here. You want to give me an opportunity? And I felt like, that's bullshit. You guys signed a guy without even giving me a shot. And he just, oh, yeah, we're gonna. We're still looking at you. We're still looking at You, I'm like, yeah, bullshit, whatever. Didn't expect to hear anything back from them. Two days later, they gave me an opportunity to come in for a 90 man roster spot and kind of worked my way through practice squad, through special teams, and then got my opportunity to play defense when Devin Bush went down.

[Will Compton]

That when you decided to call them and give them a piece of your mind, is it like your frustration was at an all time high when you're going out and doing tryouts? Because like, doubt. Doubt being the wrong word, More of like discouraged that you're putting in all this work, you're persevering, you're staying resilient, you believe in yourself. Did it just get to a point to where it's like, I got to figure out why this isn't happening?

[Drake May]

Yeah, without a doubt. I wanted answers. I wanted. I felt like I was wronged. I felt like I had the ability and the capabilities to one day be a successful player in this league. So it really bothered me that I wasn't getting that opportunity. And I honestly believe if I didn't have that chip on my shoulder, I wouldn't be here today.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

When you, when you go to the Steelers, you get on the 90 man roster, put the dark visor on, by the way. That was a nice touch. Those are very nice. Yeah.

[Drake May]

Headaches.

[Taylor Lewan]

Headaches, yeah. Yeah. It's what it's all about. You go and play the Titans again and there's a goal line stand and a lot of people, I believe there's a. There's another reporter, he's on espn. He talks about him and Derek Henry and the whole. He's taking Derek Henry Allen. Everyone always argues about it, but you actually stood Derek's ass up. No disrespect to Derek, we love Derek on the show, but you handle business. Was that like you're coming, you're coming out moment for sure.

[Drake May]

My first career start against the team that cut me two years prior. Anytime you step on the field with King Henry, you have to give him respect and you have to bring it all. If you take a slight second of the playoff, he's scoring a touchdown. So I knew at that moment that it had to be there on the goal line with the team that cut me two years prior. All that worked up inside me and I was able to make a nice play on the goal line.

[Taylor Lewan]

You were legit Boucher out there.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Drake May]

I felt the excitement from everybody in the stands. My whole family took a bus from Chicago to the game.

[Will Compton]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Drake May]

I had A lot of friends on the Tennessee Titans still at that point. That showed me love after the game. So it was really a special moment for me.

[Will Compton]

You put your face in the fan. Did you feel it, like, as you were getting up to celebrate?

[Drake May]

I definitely lost a few years of my life that day, in that moment. Yeah, I definitely gave the good Lord a few years of my life.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did you feel it like you had a sting or anything like that?

[Drake May]

They call it a stinger, but when you can't feel half your body and.

[Taylor Lewan]

You'Re like, no, shit.

[Drake May]

I came off the field, Cam Hayward rips me off the ground. He's like, oh, spill sleeping.

[Will Compton]

Get off the field.

[Drake May]

So I run off the field, and obviously you don't want to be wobbling coming off the field, so I'm like, oh, my shoulder sore. My shoulder. And I guess that's all part of playing in the NFL.

[Will Compton]

So when you go to. As you're going through the Steelers, you get cut, you go on practice squad, you get cut again early in the year, you get brought back, brought back the next week. Then when Devin Bush goes down with an ACL injury, you get your number called. And then that game, I think you go on, you have, like, you have a few good plays. And that next week, Tomlin's in the. In the press conference saying that you're going to be the starter. Take us through. Take us through that process and what that meant to hear, knowing that Coach Tomlin and the Steelers had that trust in you to continue to be the starter.

[Drake May]

Yeah, knowing that they had that trust in me. It was all I needed to go out there and succeed, knowing I had the trust of the ten people around me. It's a very safe spot. When you're the middle linebacker of these defenses, you got 10 killers all around you. So it seems very chaotic and a lot going on, but for me, that's, like, where I feel the most calm. And having the confidence of the players and the coaches in that organization meant everything to me to go out there and succeed.

[Taylor Lewan]

How'd they break the news to you? They call you in the office? They play a trick on you or anything?

[Drake May]

Yeah. Tomlin called me in, and he said, it's time to start living like a pro. We need to get you some new outfits, we need to get you a new car.

[Taylor Lewan]

You're.

[Drake May]

You're our starting middle linebacker, so you need to come in looking like it, playing like it. So it was kind of a fun moment for me and something I'll never forget.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did you listen? You Go get yourself a nice little something.

[Will Compton]

Did you get a new car?

[Drake May]

No. And that's probably why they didn't keep me around too much longer.

[Will Compton]

So now you went on, you signed a free agency with the Raiders. Did Pittsburgh not want you back?

[Drake May]

No, they didn't. And it hurts to say that, and it hurts to feel like that, because you felt like you made all these great connections. You felt like you poured your heart on the line. You felt like you did everything to be a good team player. But at the end of the day, this is a business, and they don't always want you back. And it hurts. And it hurts, and it adds to that chip on the shoulder. But that's all I could do at that point, was go out to Vegas, my one opportunity, no one else was calling, and go out there and ball.

[Will Compton]

So who else was in the conversation when you were negotiating as a free agent, ended up with the Raiders?

[Drake May]

It was the Raiders.

[Will Compton]

It was just the Raiders.

[Drake May]

The Raiders.

[Will Compton]

So when you were going into free agency, what were those conversations like in your exit meetings with the Steelers like, as you're entering?

[Drake May]

Before I went into free agency, they told me, go out, test the market, See what you get. We're going to offer whatever they. They give you, and we want to make you a Steeler.

[Will Compton]

We love you in your brain. You're like, this is where I want to.

[Drake May]

So I called them. Oh, I got an offer from the Steeler or from the Raiders. Like, I want to come back. What's the deal? And they were like, oh, good. Good luck. Have fun. So, really, that's how it happened. And obviously, at the time, you're sick, you're moving across the country, but at the same time, you're so happy because somebody believes in you, and that's all you really need, like, to have Patrick Graham out there, to have Josh McDaniels out there, Antonio Pierce believing in me as the player and as a person, that's what gives me confidence to go out there and do what I do best.

[Taylor Lewan]

What was it like when. So was it March when I saw you at ufc?

[Drake May]

Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Spillane, like, walks by me. Like, we kind of, like. I don't. I'm just kind of walking. And he kind of like. He's like, hey, good to see you, man. Like, dad's me up. He goes, I'm gonna be a patriot, and just kind of books it out of there. I was like, he's just. You see, they're just beaming, absolutely beaming about it. When Braves calls you, were you just so fired up about the full circle moment. Was he the one that called you or the GM call you?

[Drake May]

Yeah, they offered the deal once free agency opened. And I knew I wanted to be a Patriot. I knew I wanted to get back with Coach Vrabel. I knew what type of person he is, willing to lay his life on the line for his players. And it's just an organization that you want to be a part of. It's a historic organization and a new emerging team with a lot of new pieces, and it seemed like a really good opportunity for me and my family.

[Taylor Lewan]

How does it feel for you when you walk out and do a scrimmage last Friday and you see all six of those banners standing up there in the stadium?

[Drake May]

Yeah, it's pressure. But at the end of the day, that's why we come out here. That's why we love doing what we do, and we love when these stadiums are filled out, out, sold out, rocking, loud and excitement. And we're gonna have a lot of that this year. And I can't wait to see what Pat's Nation is all about.

[Will Compton]

Your second stint in free agency, same kind of question, like, when it was coming to an end with the Raiders, like, who was in the market for you before you ultimately decided on the Patriots? Like, were the Raiders wanting you back?

[Drake May]

Not. Not really.

[Will Compton]

God damn.

[Drake May]

Yeah. And I felt like locker room giving.

[Will Compton]

It his all out there with Max Cross?

[Drake May]

You have to ask Max, because he went on the podcast and he said, you know, he's been in the office with the GM every day in the off season. So I don't know what happened, where the love loss was there, but at the end of the day, I have this opportunity here, and I'm going to do everything I can to be a good teammate here and perform for the Patriots.

[Will Compton]

Were there any other teams that were fighting for you before you decided here?

[Drake May]

Yeah, there was.

[Will Compton]

Are you able to.

[Drake May]

Do you want to hear about it?

[Taylor Lewan]

So this is a podcast. We do, and we like to. We like talking to people.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. We like telling stories. This isn't like. This isn't like a professional ESPN sit down.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Drake May]

I mean, there was a team in the West Coast. There was a team that I had recently played for and one in the mountains, and they all showed big interest and were excited.

[Taylor Lewan]

So Denver Chargers, Titans close.

[Drake May]

That's very close.

[Taylor Lewan]

Did Titans call you?

[Drake May]

It's very close. Yes.

[Taylor Lewan]

And then it was the Rams.

[Drake May]

Yeah, we'll just say that was close. That was very close. New England said and showed me that they wanted me to come out here. It was a done deal. I wanted to be here out of the four teams that were offering and I wanted to be part of the Patriots. So I'm glad that we got it done here and I'm excited to go out and perform.

[Taylor Lewan]

You know, splain. When we're asking these questions, everything we've asked so far is harmless. But he's thinking to himself, what's that team meeting going to look like when this podcast comes out? And Braves goes, blaine, we not paying you enough? You didn't want. You want to be here?

[Drake May]

No, I'm so excited and glad to be here. And. And we got a young team. A lot of free agents joined the team this year, so it's going to look a lot different than last year and we're just gonna go out and continue to work.

[Will Compton]

What do you. I'll do my best to ask a question where he just won't give a answer.

[Taylor Lewan]

No.

[Drake May]

Are they all answers?

[Will Compton]

No, no, no, no. You got the variable isms, the. Speak for yourself.

[Drake May]

I don't want to say something stupid.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Drake May]

I am not a trained podcaster, so.

[Taylor Lewan]

You, you have to play the Steelers and the Raiders, two teams that have elite pass rushers. What are similarities and some differences you see between T.J. watt and Max Crosby?

[Drake May]

Yeah, two of the best in the league. Obviously, as you can see those contracts, those boys are living right, they are working hard. TJ is dominant, both on the left side of the ball, both have the freedom to do whatever they want on a play. You know, if you have a non dominant edge rusher, you tell them, set the edge. If you have Max and tj, you tell them do whatever the hell you want because we know you're going to make a play. So playing behind those guys has let me learn how to play behind people that like to swim gaps, like to find the ball. I think TJ has done a great job. Force fumbles, interceptions. Max has the best motor in the NFL, so he is unblockable for 90 snaps out of the game, which is unheard of from a dn.

[Taylor Lewan]

I love it.

[Will Compton]

Bobby. We're getting, we're getting the. The wrap up signal. But dude, again, so proud of you. I think you are a awesome example for undrafted guys being a rookie minicamp trial guy to getting all the way into your third contract, which is massive, especially at the linebacker spot, man. And I wish you well this year, bro. Stay healthy.

[Drake May]

Yeah, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Love you guys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Love you too, man.

[Will Compton]

Proud of you.

[Drake May]

Thank you guys.

[Taylor Lewan]

Sorry.

[Drake May]

I hope I wasn't.

[Taylor Lewan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Taylor Lewan]

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[Taylor Lewan]

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[Jared]

So originally there was function behind it. So six years ago, I played Miami.

[Taylor Lewan]

Me. Yeah.

[Jared]

You know, it's 95 degrees. Feels like 102. But the ends of this don't get wet.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jared]

When it's like flowing through, it'll sweat up here, but the whole shirt won't get wet. So I can dry my fingers. And then every training camp now I just do it.

[Taylor Lewan]

I love it.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Jared]

So originally there was function. Now it's pure style.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Because it's like 82 outsider.

[Taylor Lewan]

How crazy is it going from a place like Miami to New England? And then you're probably in the train camp and you hear one guy whisper, man, it's fucking hot out here today. What are you talking about? You have no idea.

[Jared]

I literally, the guys, like, it was like 93 the other day. I can't. I don't know if I can go. I'm like, what are you talking about? This is like if we got a 93 degree day in Miami, everybody was smiling ear to ear. Like, this is simple.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, it's gorgeous out here.

[Jared]

Yeah, it's super nice. Like, y' all haven't even changed your cleats because they're soaking water through yet.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like, Right. You start walking up the field and Your. Your feet are literally squishy. Okay.

[Jared]

We had a hot day.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. How's it. How's the process been with. With Mike and the culture and everything here in New England?

[Jared]

It's been good. I think one of the biggest things, and I've been kind of in that New England style system of, like, work and get shit done, and I love.

[Drake May]

That type of shit.

[Jared]

Like, the guy who works hard gets rewarded. But having Mike, who has also played, so he understands, like, when he says some shit, it's like, okay, he's actually probably done it. He's done some of the shit that he's telling us to do, so it works out. It's like, okay, cool. I can. I can hear where he's coming from because he could pull up some tape of him actually doing it. He's not just talking out his ass.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, it's grainy as hell, but he did do it for 14 years. How many times has he mentioned that he's played 14 years in the NFL? In team meetings.

[Jared]

Team meetings. I don't know. When he comes in the receiving room, it's straight to the touchdowns. It's like 10 for 10 or 12 for 12.

[Taylor Lewan]

Whatever it is, even I can do it. When he first got to the Titans, I think this was AJ's first year, he put up all the receivers and their stats from the year before, and it was like. I think all of them had like, maybe total 11, and then his was 12 for 12, 12 touchdowns.

[Will Compton]

He, like, he outpaced them. What was it Until. I want to say it was in the middle of the second time around that I was there, like 20. 20.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

When the room finally passed him in touchdowns, which is. It was something wild.

[Taylor Lewan]

That was. That was a team victory.

[Jared]

That's big for the team.

[Taylor Lewan]

Around.

[Will Compton]

How big, how. How finally do you look back on your last year with Buffalo? It seemed like you had a lot of fun. I feel like you were in the headlines a lot more. Obviously, you've talked about. You've spoken about your feet at length, but it seemed like you guys had a really fun locker room in Buffalo.

[Jared]

Yeah, for sure, I had a lot of fun. The guys are great. Anybody who's played there kind of knows that's really all there is, is ball. And city loves you. And if you work hard, it like, kind of turns over. And we were winning games, and when you're winning games, no matter where you're at, it's freaking great. So, yeah, I had a great time there, and I was able to be barefoot and wild and all that stuff, and they just embraced it. And, like, people started wearing no shoes in the snow. And I was like, hey, I'm not liable for anything, any of that.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, you going no shoes in the snow?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jared]

On the. On the walk in. Yeah, walk in. No matter what the temperature is, I'm going barefoot. But if it gets below 35, grounding, it's just. I don't know. I think the word I guess people use would be the pussification of America. People are so soft now. Like, bro, do something hard for once. It's not even hard to wear no shoes, but, like, if it gets below 35, I'm not an idiot. Like, I'll put shoes on, but walking into games, no matter what, I have to be barefoot.

[Taylor Lewan]

How long you been doing this for?

[Jared]

Walking in the game's probably three, four years.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jared]

So I got hurt seven years ago, started training barefoot. Found these guys in Australia called mmt. They trained. They showed up to Philly. I flew them out. Freaking barefoot out off the plane. I'm like, the fuck are you doing? Same way y' all look at me. That's how I looked at them. Started training with them. And then, like, three, four years ago, I was like, what's the point of the shoes now? I just don't pack them and shit. Other than bathrooms and airports is the.

[Taylor Lewan]

Only time I wear shoes, really.

[Will Compton]

So you.

[Taylor Lewan]

You obviously go into a restaurant, they're like, excuse me, sir.

[Jared]

If I'm by myself like this, and if they kick me out, so be it. But if I'm with the group, I'm gonna wear shoes. Like, I'm not gonna screw the whole.

[Taylor Lewan]

You don't want to mess up the whole.

[Jared]

Yeah, but by myself, I get kicked out of places all the time. So that's what Uber eats is for.

[Will Compton]

Stay at the house. You probably have to be so thankful you found this. You found this group in Australia. Yeah. When you did.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Jared]

I mean, I was, like, about to retire. Like, I couldn't walk for a year. Like, just came off the Super Bowl, Just won a Super bowl, and then for six, eight months, couldn't walk. I was like, yo, I just was at the peak to. Can't do anything.

[Will Compton]

What was the injury again?

[Mike Vrabel]

Groin.

[Jared]

So I had a groin. I had surgery three months later, tore the other side, had surgery again. And, like, couldn't walk, couldn't get back from it.

[Taylor Lewan]

And what was these Australians, these barefoot Australians. What is the method behind having issues?

[Jared]

So they're called Melbourne Muscular Therapy. So muscular therapy is, like, their main Thing, body work, but then they also do. So I was doing wim HOF stuff. I was doing, like, breathing exercises, eye gazing, where you, like, sit inches from each other and stare at each other eyes. Literally the first thing they did when they got to my house, they blindfolded me, pick me up on their shoulders, and start carrying me around the neighborhood. And this is like, Philly, and our season's not going too hot at the time. So now they see my weird ass doing this, and I'm like, what's going on? And they're like, we just want you to know that no matter what, like, we got you. And at that point, I was like, whatever, I'm about to retire. I'll do whatever y' all say. And then within, like, three months, I was back running again. And you know when you get hurt and you all of a sudden get that like, oh, I might be able to do this again?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jared]

It freaking changed everything.

[Taylor Lewan]

Everything you're explaining to me. Sounds like the beginning of a cult.

[Jared]

Sometimes the cults are right, though.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, that. See, that's how you know you're a couple phases in. You're a couple phases in already.

[Will Compton]

I'm scared. I'm scared to even ask him which cult is right.

[Taylor Lewan]

Right, Exactly.

[Will Compton]

You just gotta know you're cool.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, no doubt. But did you. So they're picking you up, they're walking around Philly, and all of a sudden you walk and feel great a few months later.

[Jared]

I mean, the body work is their main thing. So they did bodywork on me, I would say between six and eight hours a day for two weeks straight. So I'm getting 40 plus hours a week of bodywork, holding muscles, just completely releasing all the tension in my body. In their mind, your body's kind of like a plumbing system, and there's just clogs all over the place. So how can we help you unclog so everything flows properly? And that's what they did.

[Taylor Lewan]

Like.

[Jared]

Like, you know when you have a surgery, you wake up and your brain doesn't know what's going on. It just wakes up. It's like, oh, this is. This is completely different than what it was. Now just get fixed.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Jared]

And we're just so trained.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yep.

[Jared]

You had surgery, so you're good. But your brain doesn't know. It went to sleep and it couldn't really control or had pain somewhere, and it wakes up and like, now it doesn't know what's going on. So I think that second surgery just kind of shut everything down and they Were able to get me back on.

[Will Compton]

For the last couple minutes. I would love to know what is your favorite thing about coach Vrabel and what is one thing you don't. Yeah.

[Taylor Lewan]

That you think rapes could work on?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You think he could work on? There we go. Because I was like, man, should I say hate?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Growth mindset. Growth mindset.

[Jared]

I think he. What I love is that he'll get the competitiveness out of me. I love talking shit. I think he does too. And it gets that even though he's getting older and you kind of lose that. That T level and that and that competitive. Like I'm still a player.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But it's.

[Jack]

He still has it.

[Will Compton]

He's got the edge. Yeah, he still has it.

[Jared]

And you can get it out of him. And it's. And it's great things that he could work on or improve.

[Will Compton]

Pet peeve of yours.

[Jared]

I feel like sometimes he gets soft on the guys now, you know.

[Will Compton]

Oh, you think so?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, I think he gets.

[Jared]

I think it's more of a CBA thing than him though. I think he wants to get us to work, but I think he's like kind of forced not to. And sometimes I look at him, I think he really wants to like spaz on dude. You know, like if somebody came late how it probably was before the CPA changed a little bit and you couldn't like be as like strict to guys. I think he still has it in him and he wants to let it out, but I don't think he's allowed to anymore.

[Will Compton]

So you think he's lost his stuff? You think he's gotten a little soft?

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Right. So what you're saying is the pacification of America raves is a part of that?

[Jared]

No, not really. It's like forced on him. I mean like.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah, he's a picked up bull. Yeah.

[Jared]

Like, yeah, like he really wants to just spaz on somebody for like coming late or like doing some shit that like, like constantly happens, but he just like not allowed to.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Jared]

And I can like see it because I'm front row and I'm like, I think he.

[Taylor Lewan]

I think he's about to do it.

[Jared]

He's gonna do it and he's like.

[Taylor Lewan]

I can't do it.

[Will Compton]

You look at him in like a way like you're kind of sad for him cuz he's conforming.

[Taylor Lewan]

Yeah. Like he had. Yeah, yeah, man, do it.

[Jared]

Cuz now it's like this Twitter age. Like in 30 minutes it'll come out that Braves yelled at somebody and all.

[Will Compton]

Of a sudden, yeah, we got to shut the team. When you see it in him next time you should just whisper, hey Braves, do it, do it.

[Mike Vrabel]

Bro.

[Will Compton]

Do we got a. Are we good?

[Taylor Lewan]

All right. Yeah. Well, let's do your thing, man. We know you guys are on a busy schedule. We appreciate you taking the time. Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah.

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