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Great weekend. Great weekend. Watching ball number one. Let's just get this out of the way. I love football.
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I love football.
Co-host / Football Expert
The games we get to witness outside of the Seahawks Niners. But even that one, even that, it's.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Like you're like good. We have one of these. You needed that because every game was touch and go. Multiple overtimes.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And you get to watch Seattle just beat on in a. A beat up 49er steam rack. Okay, good.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. Seattle just being a machine of a team. They're the Ones that feels like it's, it's. It's their super bowl to lose.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Let me ask you this. We're going to get into all the games, but if you just look at divisional round, is there a clear cut this team's winning the super bowl to you?
Co-host / Football Expert
I think it will be the Seahawks defeating the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
We are very aligned in that.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, Seahawks. I know going in. I know going into playoffs it was my, my brain was at going to be Seahawks, Seahawks Patriots or Seahawks Patriots in that Jacksonville game. But Jacksonville ended up losing to the Texans. But now that it's, now that we're there, like it's Seattle. It's Seattle Patriots. Like that's the hill.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, Seattle. I could see it going either way in the NFC Championship game, but because of the Bo Knicks news, if nobody heard Bo Nick's broken ankle, second to last play of the game. Last play of the game. A lot of conspiracy theorists behind that. Twitter doctors, apparently, according to Jeremy Klumper saying that, hey, this guy actually had a broken ankle before the game. Allegedly. And they just made him play instead. He ended up getting the, the overtime win against the Bills. But because they have a backup quarterback in, it's like you gotta just assume.
Co-host / Football Expert
Imagine somebody out there right now just learning that Bo Nix is injured. For people that might not know Bo Nicks broke his ankle and they're like, what? Bo Nicks broke his.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Are you serious, honey? I thought we watched the game. Yeah, we watched game. No post game press conference. Holy.
Co-host / Football Expert
He said in his group chats, hey, did you guys hear about this? Where the. Have you like, do you even consume any football?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
It is wild with the. What the NFL playoffs do to people like Taylor. I put on that Broncos Bills game the other day. I think it was Saturday afternoon. Put that one on my head. You should come watch this game. I kind of start giving her the storylines. Josh Allen, he's, you know, Owen whatever in away games before these playoffs started. But all of them were to Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes, except for his first playoff game as a rookie. We start getting to it, talking about Josh the dick jokes, all the things. So she's starting to get invested and she's screaming at the tv. Gets her so much to where I come down from the kids to sleep last night and the Rams Bears game is on the bedroom and she's watching the game.
Co-host / Football Expert
That was an electric game.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Electric.
Co-host / Football Expert
That Broncos Bills game, man. Fun one, sad one, sad one, had one, fun one. Yeah, happy one.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
There's a lot of emotions that took place.
Co-host / Football Expert
A lot of emotion. A lot of emotion. I. I love both of those teams. It's like there are moments to whoever needed to score. I found myself rooting for that team. Yeah. Just because of how it was coming down to the wire. Tough, tough day for the boy, Josh Allen. I know, man, incredible football player. Like he is. Like, he is arguably, if not the best football player in the NFL. To see it go down like that, knowing he is the. He is the massive reason that that team is in that position.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He's potentially the only reason. Like, there's other reasons, but he's the number one without a doubt. Like, if you didn't have Josh Allen, we might be talking about a team that didn't make the playoffs this year.
Co-host / Football Expert
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, Absolutely.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He didn't.
Co-host / Football Expert
To have a. Get to have a game like that, what do you do? Two picks, three fumbles. Three. Two fumbles. Yeah. Four total fumbles lost too.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Going into half, when he's holding that ball like Shady McCoy running up the field with 13 seconds left and no timeouts, like, you just got to take a knee. Take a knee. And then the fumble. Quick kick. That's a 10 point swing. And I think the Broncos got the ball in the second half.
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They started the game, ended up not doing nothing with the ball. But you put yourself in a horrible momentum position to have them go down score on you. You have 13 seconds left. No timeouts. Am I correct in saying that? Let's just assume no timeouts. You're on the 25 yard line like, buddy, you got to take that knee and just get into half.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And realize where you're at.
Co-host / Football Expert
Bo Nicks was slinging it too.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Slinging it.
Co-host / Football Expert
He was balling.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Really wasn't. He wasn't really a part of the game until like the second half. Like he was getting into a multitude of different guys. Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was heartbreaking.
Co-host / Football Expert
Buffalo being able. Buffalo being able to run the ball. It's. Dude, I hate that Bo Nix is not in the. I know. Everybody hates that. It sucks that Bo Nick is not in the AFC Championship because even post game, when you real. You find out that Bo Nicks, which by the way, it's like what a bomb that it happened like, you know, second to last play of the game.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Allegedly.
Co-host / Football Expert
Allegedly conspiracies out there, everybody arguing that it was sooner than that and then Sean Payton's lying. But to just learn that it was a situation we didn't even witness or see or. Bo Nix is celebrating doing all the things. And then Sean Payton to walk to the podium back here. We got some bad news. Bo Nicks, he broke his ankle.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He's done for the season. It's like, oh, you're in the. You're in the AFC championship.
Co-host / Football Expert
That. And a part of my brain is like. And I know that it's just not. It's not the reality. It's stupid. But I'm just like, we needed. The Bills just need to be in the AFC championship.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, listen, I think I crossed a lot of people's minds, because where you. Where do you put the Broncos, like, chances to beat the Patriots in this game?
Co-host / Football Expert
Now they got a shot. It's not like the Patriots look. It's not like the Patriots look unbeatable by any means. But, hey, Stidham. Stidham's got a shot to. This is. This is legacy. He's got a shot to make so much money.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He's got Nick Foles potential here. Yeah, Nick Fole, drafted by the Patriots. There was a. They, like, played a game when, like, I think Brady was out for a game, and he, like, had, like, three or four touchdowns. I think it wasn't four. Definitely wasn't four, but three touchdowns in the game, like, kind of diced him up a little bit. And if you think about it, like, the biggest question mark going to the Broncos playoffs was, is the quarterback going to be able to facilitate the ball? Because their defense is complete, their offensive line is incredible. They're good enough on the outside perimeter, and they have two running backs that are pretty great. And now it's like, Bo Nicks is out. Maybe. Same thing happens.
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The odds for the super bowl winner came out this morning on FanDuel. The Seahawks sit at the leading favorite at +1.50. Patriots +2.20. Rams +2.20. And then the Broncos +1300.1300.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Value might be worth a sprinkle, right? Maybe we gotta stay worth a sprinkle. And this Stidham guy, he played a. He was a baler. He was a Bear. Was he also an Auburn Tiger? He was also an Auburn. So this. He got himself a little taste of the nil transfer area back before it was cool, before the bags were flying. This kid was just transferring for the love of the game. Like this. He's just a mercenary for hire. Patriots. Now he's at the Broncos. He's sits behind Bo. Nick's ultimate pro. Yeah, I'm kind of getting on board because I haven't jumped on the bandwagon of the Broncos all year and now kind of Feels like crazy. I know, I know. There's just. To me, there was teams where my heart's lied a little bit differently.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
The Bills were my number one this year, followed closely by the Patriots. I wanted to see the Chargers do well. I was kind of on board with you when it came to the Chiefs. I'll tell you who I really fell in love with. Oh, it came to an abrupt end, but I kind of fell in love with the Bears.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, absolutely. I thought you were gonna say the Jaguars. The sneaky Jacksonville.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, that's. I think that's my Titans brain of the fact. Yeah. Okay. Good for them. It's like, hey, good for them. But then as soon as they're out, they're like, yeah, good, you know?
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. What kind of shot do you think the Broncos have against the Patriots?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Buddy, the more. The more I'm kind of just talking about without looking into Stidham. Stidham, Stidham, Stidham. I don't want to disrespect the young man. I don't hate it. Like Drake Mace put the ball on the ground multiple times. I think he did it four times or five times. And this last game against the Texans, completely different. I mean, still two elite defenses. But that pass rush is absolutely insane. And you loses two of those, you.
Co-host / Football Expert
See what a pass rush like a defense like that can do to Drake May. I'm not saying the Broncos have the same elite type of pass rushers that the Texans do, but it's still a defense that is going to be able to get after Drake.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Right, Right. And like they go into the wild card game against the Jaguars, there's a handful of throws, deep passes, that we've all kind of like dubbed Drake May as the new best thrower of the deep pass in the NFL. As the. As the regular season has gone on hitting like over 70%. Has a couple. Against the Jaguars, you're like, all right, nerves. I expect that to be different.
Co-host / Football Expert
Hit one later in the game though.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Ms. Austin Hooper Big time on one that's like, oh my God and a Penny Henry later in the game, same route. But then you go to this game and it's like, okay, he's under pressure quite a bit, but he is getting the ball out fast. He's being very decisive whether to run with it, go to his first two reads and then realizing we don't got that kind of time. But there's multiple throws downfield that he is missing. Getting one to K Sean Booty at the end. Beautiful catch by Booty. By the way, maybe round of applause for him. That was absolutely incredible.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, that was a, that was big time play.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
But all that to be said, it's like, I think this game's a lot. I don't know what are the odds right now, but I think the game is a lot closer than we're kind of expecting to be. When you hear, hey, this team that's going to the AFC championship, they're missing their starting quarterback because of how the positive they are.
Co-host / Football Expert
The positive is they get to host it so they'll be at home in Denver. And again, the, the, the defense that the Broncos do have, like you watch the, the Patriots Texan game. Like I tweeted it yesterday, like I couldn't take a piss without a turnover happening. Yeah. It's like I'm sitting there trying to squeeze one off here and that Charles, like, oh, another fumble. And you go out there, the way these teams are putting the ball, turning the ball over, the way that the Texans were able to get after Drake. May I see like the Broncos should be able to do something similar. And it's like if you're the Broncos Stidham, that offense, you could only need about 17 points to win.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Maybe, maybe. But I mean, I mean, Josh, what they put 30 up on him with nobody at receiver. With James Cook who had multiple fumbles or not multiple, but a fumble prone running back throughout the season and had one in the game. Josh Allen had multiple. But that's still put up 30 points.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, Josh Allen and that Bill's offense, even though they did have all those turnovers. But I'm just talking like again, looking at what the Patriots offense did again, an elite defense like the Texans, like the, the Broncos should be able to suffocate them a lot more than they were able to the Buffalo Bills.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I wonder if I want to see the weather report in Denver as opposed to New England because a lot of things that I've been seeing is like when I think about cold weather games as an offensive lineman, I'm thinking opportunity. These guys are going to be slower, they're going to be more cold than I am. The hits hurt more. But you're like, you just, it feels like football to you. Like everyone's kind of slowed down. It's equalized for you a little bit to where I feel like as an offensive lineman I have the advantage putting into perspective of these quarterbacks, their hands, their bare hands are out the whole time. They don't feel their hands. You see a lot more balls on the ground. The Weather. Which one is this? Denver. This is Denver. So 4129. Sunny outside. It's a little bit different. New England, I'm assuming we're having overcast. We're in the teens. Right. Probably. So I just wonder if that would play a factor at all and actually help Drake may out with holding the ball a little bit better with the deep passes. All those things. Yeah. Because you see with CJ Stroud as well, like that ball is slipping out of his hands in New England and kind of just gives you a tip of the cap to Tom Brady being like this dude operated in this weather.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
If that is as big of a factor as I've now kind of like viewed it, because it is. It's going to be it. I think this game is going to be so much more interesting than people think. Look at that.
Co-host / Football Expert
Jared Stidham hasn't thrown a pass in two seasons.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Loving.
Co-host / Football Expert
In his career he's thrown eight touchdowns and has had eight interceptions.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Clean slate, dude.
Co-host / Football Expert
That was Will like we said earlier, value plus 1300 Super Bowl. The optimistic part of me is again, even though he hasn't thrown a pass in a couple seasons, the way it feels like Sean Payton, the way that they operate in house offensively with breaking down situations, what to do with the football. Here's what we're going to do in this situation. Sitting behind Bo Nicks, hearing all the conversations, partaking in all the conversations. You got to assume he's going to be ready to go to some extent. It's just going to be getting the rust off being out there in a, in a real game. Yeah. But it doesn't seem like they're going to have to like dumb down anything. You know what I mean?
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Do you think it hurts him that Josh McDaniels is the one who traded for him for the Raiders, so knows him very well. He, he started sent him over Derek Carr in Las Vegas when he was the head coach. You think that hurts him a little, that he kind of knows all his weaknesses?
Co-host / Football Expert
He probably the, the hurting him is just walking in and be like, hey, this ain't going to be no cakewalk. Stidden. Boy, this. This kid can sling the rock a little bit.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. This is going to be the classic. You get your hands on him a couple of times, you can get a little nervous. I'm happy he'll probably have a couple quirks like that. But it's like then you got to do it.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. Variable right now as we were talking, he is de recruiting the high of The New England Patriots, whatever, whatever image they might have in their mind that they're going to go and walk in and win this game. You ain't going to just show up and win this game.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Can't just show up and win. He can't do it. Can we talk about the catch? That wasn't a catch. That ended up being an interception on Cooks deep in the game. Overtime. Bills go first. They go three and out. What if they don't cross the 50? They end up punting. Bills, josh on methodically, kind of get on the field, get around that 50 yard line, throw a deep shot to Cook. Switch. If he makes that catch, this game's essentially over. Right. You get Prater, you. You trot Prater out there, you kick it, you win, you're in the AFC Championship and it doesn't take place. Do we think it was a catch or do we think it was for sure an interception?
Co-host / Football Expert
I think it was for sure an interception.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Does anybody else in the back say, no, that's a catch? Because it seems like the hot topic that's taking place.
Co-host / Football Expert
Well, it was an interception.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
I mean, I don't want to, like, sit here and argue, but, like, I feel like I thought it was a catch just because. What is a catch? We're still in 20, 26. We don't really know. The fact we're still debating it is kind of crazy.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
My thought would be the moment he hits the ground, he's down, and then they rolled and the other guy got the ball. The slow mo makes it tough. So it's like, it's not something I'm a team.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. People going frame by frame. It's like that was such a bang bang playing a bang bang moment to where you look at the Devonte Adams one, which is something that's similar, but devonte's like, his feet are on the ground and he's like moving a step as he's going down to the ground to where you see he's caught the ball. Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He's holding. He clearly has possession while his knee touches. And he's touched by the defender.
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He caught it and, like, made one or two steps before he got tackled.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. And he's got, like a couple guys on him as he's going to the ground. This one's just like it. He's aerial. He's in the air, hitting the ground, everything going on, and the dude just comes up with the ball. Like, I feel like that was the refs. I. I agree that they have struggled at times and Made some bad calls. That second passing, the. The pass interference calls at the end of the game.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, we gotta talk about.
Co-host / Football Expert
First one felt a little ticky tacky, but okay, they got a pass interference. It seems like the Broncos are going to win the game. But the second one I thought was bullshit. So I. I understand the outcry and everybody being pissed off with how the referees are calling some of these games, but that call in particular with the interception, I do believe that it was an interception.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. I don't know if I'm too off base in this, but when I look at the playoffs and it's win or go home type of situation, guys are chasing their dreams, especially in this game with a Josh Allen. And Sean Payton might be the. The only head coach of all time to win two multiple Super Bowls for two different teams. If you're a referee, it's got to be extremely egregious. Like balls in the air, defender tackles the guy to the ground. All right, we have to throw on this. We have to throw the flag. But anything else, that's like ticky tacky, hand grabbing. Maybe he's a little draped over. I think we should always edge on the side of. Let the boys play. Let them. Let them play the game. Unless it's so over the top. Think about a couple years ago with the Eagles and the Chiefs. The holding penalty they called, that clearly was a holding penalty. That's when I'm like, all right, you gotta call that. I hate that the refs are kind of thrusting themselves within the storyline. What happened? What are you looking back and forth for?
Co-host / Sports Analyst
That was a terrible call. Are you kidding me?
Co-host / Football Expert
In that Super Bowl, I thought it was ticky tack. I think that's what he's saying.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Oh, I thought he said.
Co-host / Football Expert
I think that's what he's gonna get to say.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
No, Taylor, I'm saying it was a good call. Oh, my.
Co-host / Football Expert
Oh, no. That's ticky tack.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
That's ticky in the jerseys. Way a yard apart.
Co-host / Football Expert
Give the Eagles that Super Bowl. That was ticky tack. Ticky tacky.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I see who I'm talking now. Yeah, yeah. I see the two, huh? Birds fan, Chiefs hater. They're. Now they're finding love to me. I look at that, I'm like, yeah, dude, he did. He wrapped his arm around him. He pulled the jersey. It is what it is.
Co-host / Football Expert
Sticky tag.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
We get in that. We get in a game like this and we're throwing bombs downfield. Unless the guy's tackling them. Because there was one. I think it Was Spencer Brown that had like a short corner, kind of like tugs the guy a little bit. Josh gets the ball off. I think it was actually on the plate of cook. It might have been a different play, but that's one of me. It's like, let him play. That's our. Listen, we're kind of in the mode of we got to let these. These gentlemen sort it out between the gridiron and not a lot of the zebras to really dive into this whole thing. That's my thought process in this. I was happy to the exact point.
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Miami that they did not throw a flag for PI.
Co-host / Football Expert
That. That moment right there, there was a massive outcry that that was pass interference. I do believe that that was pass interference.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
With. You know, just in the one would just love to see another play. Let's see if Ole Miss can get it done. But everybody's exploding over that not being a pass interference call. And that just happened last weekend. Then you get into these situations and you're seeing why they're, you know, they're throwing flags for these passer appearance. You can call them ticky tack, whatever. So I. The pendulum just swings every which way. Correction. Everybody just sees the. The zebra stripes. They just want consistency.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
So they want consistency.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
So you're looking at the semifinals for the national championship in Arizona. And you think the NFL referees were influenced by that?
Co-host / Football Expert
No. No. Okay. I'm saying, I'm saying the way. I'm saying the way everybody's human mind is working to where they are so bought into this should have been a pass interference guy. I can't believe it wasn't passion for. It's hey, let him play. Let him play. Then you got to kind of buy into that. Then if you're. If you're watching your team get called against something that seems a lot more ticky tack, you're like, well, why aren't they. Why are they calling this if they're not out there calling that? You know what I'm saying?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. I think we keep the laundry in our pockets. Yeah. Unless it's so over the top. It's like we have to do something about this.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Because if you're. Was it Trudevius White walks up to the referee, yells in his face. Kind of. Honestly, to me it was like a Kobe basketball moment for that referee that kind of just sat there plain faced and he takes the helmet those on the ground. He just quietly takes like two steps and just tosses the flag in here. Gives him another penalty. I was like, this ref kind of just body bagged White a little bit. Kind of body bagged him a little bit.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, he can't be slamming, can't be.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Slamming your helmet on the ground. You're getting a fine 2. You're gonna be headed off to Cancun. It's. It's a heartbreaking situation. I feel terrible for the Bills because I was really in the camp of, hey, we get to go to the parade. This is the, this is the perfect playoff scenario for Josh Allen and get through without having Lamar or Mahomes or Burrow Burrow in the playoffs. This would have been amazing to see him. To see not only Josh Allen, but the Bills to finally get it all, like finally figure it out and get it done.
Co-host / Football Expert
What do you make of everybody kind of putting the target on Josh Allen for? He just can't get it done. He's the reason that the Bills lost this game. Putting it kind of all on him because again, you get to this point to where you are in the playoffs without, you know, Burrow, Mahomes, Lamar, Jackson, and you just feel all the commentating going on to where they've dialed in and are going after Josh Allen for this loss.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, I think people who are comparing Josh Allen to CJ Stroud right now of like, oh, you praise Josh Allen for how well he did, but C.J. stroud had a similarly bad game. To me is insane. Like, you're not here, you're not in the divisional round without Josh Allen. Josh Allen didn't play particularly well in this game. He missed multiple throws, he had multiple turnovers. He was loose with the ball. He wasn't. He didn't keep it up here. But it's that kind of savvy backyard football ness that has gotten Josh Allen to the place he's at. I think the noise is a lot louder. I think it's not. I don't think it matters how loud it is to the public. I think you can see in the press conferences, I saw a clip that someone put out of like 20, 19, 20, 21, 2020, like Josh Allen in these heartbreaking last minute drives where he like gets, you know, defeated by the Mahomes and the Burroughs and the, and the Lamars and it's. You see him handle the press conference, he's like, yeah, it's really heartbreaking. We'll get in the offseason, we'll do whatever. And every single season it's more and more sad to the point where we get to this 20, 25, 20, 26 playoffs. And he's in tears, being like, I've let my teammates down. And then it cuts right over to Dion Dawkins, who hears him make that comment. He gets choked up. He starts crying about it. And a multitude of guys being like, dude, this guy's putting it all on his shoulders. It's not on him. It's not on him.
Co-host / Football Expert
You just, you, as, as a player, watching all of those post game, like, interviews, you just understand as a player, like how you're able to. You witness how close this team is with each other and you know at the end of the year when it is all over, it's going to be a completely new team because changes get made. The game is the game.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
There's no new head coach.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. New head coach now. McDermott getting fired.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Guest / Sports Commentator
What do you guys make of that? I know you guys are going into that, but.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, yeah, but it's not like it's going to be this momentum thing that goes into the next year. You know that this is kind of a bow is on this season. I think what sucks, too, is when you, when you look at the CJ Stroud, Josh Allen comparison and these two, like, heartbreaking style, shitty losses is. There's never like a thought in my mind that Josh Allen is getting some type of yips or folding under pressure. I agree. Or this. He's just, he's. He's like a gamer. He's an elite quarterback who had a tough game and obviously you see the way he's reacting after the game, takes it, wears his emotions on his sleeve, understands that he missed out on a huge opportunity to. Whereas, like, when I'm watching C.J. stroud, I'm. I'm getting into the, the last couple of drives or the last drive of that first half where he's just missing these incomplete passes, he's missing guys. And you just kind of see the look on his. It's like, oh, man, this moment feels like it's on top of him. I just, I never get that sense with Josh Allen to where it's like, oh, this quarterback's in the playoffs, he's going to lose at some point. It's more of just. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to like, fully articulate it other than like, the dude is a baller, the dude's a gamer. It sucks that he goes down and loses or he lost this game, but he is the entire. He is the biggest reason this team is even at that point, because again, they were a Six seed going into. Going into the Broncos, the one seed.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. I agree with what you're saying as far as, like, C.J. stroud and Josh Allen feel very different to me, you look at Josh Allen, it's like without Josh, the Bills don't make the playoffs. They're not in contention to even win a Super Bowl. C.J. stroud and the season that he's had, coupled with the defense that they have, that has equalized and kept the Unders alive and every fanduel Betters dream. When they watch the Houston Texans step on the field, it's like if CJ Just took care of the football. We're talking about the Texans probably playing in the AFC Championship.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, that's.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
That. That's the difference is CJ Was. And I. This is this. This sounds like way more critical than it should be, but he is more of the reason why they lost as opposed to Josh Allen. He was the reason he. Like, there's reasons why they lost because of some of his play, but they would not be in the game if Josh Allen wasn't playing in the game. Does that make sense?
Co-host / Sports Analyst
The Texans were three. No. This year without C.J.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Stroud starting right. And. And.
Co-host / Football Expert
Oh, wow.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. You get Davis. Like, was it Davis Mills? Davis Mills, like, he. He played really well. I'm a fan of CJ Stroud. I'm a fan of, like, how much he loves the game, the way he operates. I think this is a perfect year for him. We'll get into that in our Jim Beam segment. But, like, I think this is a year where this is. You have all the delusion and the hatred in your mind to motivate you in this off season.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
How you can be like, it's me against the world. Nobody believes me. Even some of my teammates don't believe in me. But I'm still going to go do X, Y and Z. Yeah. I do have a good stat that.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
I think would make Bills fans very.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Happy, make Josh Allen very happy.
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Main Host / Lead Analyst
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Co-host / Sports Analyst
Things are looking up for Joshua.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Dad's strength.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, that dad strength, that extra little dad power that he's gonna have. And to, like, even the. When it goes to. Oh, everybody's so hard. Gets so hard on Lamar Jackson when Lamar loses a playoff game. To me, it's like when Lamar gets in the playoffs. There. There are those games in the, in the playo where it just seems like he's playing out of character. Whereas Josh, like, yeah, you can't have those turnovers. But again, it's like, to your point, he's the reason they're in the game and even competing there at the very end. Whereas on the Texans one, you're in the game because that defense is so elite. Like, you know, New England could have ran away with that one.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. Like, Josh Allen has created enough evidence for us to fall back on. Hey, like, we know you're gonna make those mistakes, but at the same time, like, like you're the reason why. Because you play this way is the reason why we always have the opportunity.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
To essentially be a Super bowl contender. And I just think going to the, the McDermott topic of conversation, like, I don't know how much I love it. I don't, I don't know if I like it at all, to be totally honest. I think if you're the ownership of the Bills, it's more on you from an ownership standpoint because who's the GM for the, the Eagles again? Rosenberg? Howie Roseman? If Howie Roseman has Josh Allen, how aggressive is he going to be in. In the like, acquiring talent to assemble around him? Probably more aggressive. Like, you see the talent that he's established on the Philadelphia Eagles.
Co-host / Football Expert
Keon Coleman's probably not on the team, right.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Keon Coleman had a touchdown yesterday, but he's been, he was inactive, what, like five or six games this year. HS healthy scratch. And that's just, to me, it's like, is Sean McDermott the issue? Who's like the CEO, defensive minded guy? Because you have Joe Brady, who's a proven oc, who's, who's a head coaching candidate. A lot of people. But like, if you look at the roster other than the past defense, they've got a good pass defense, they've got a great left tackle and a fast running back. Like, you don't have pieces around you where it's like, Josh, we're giving you every opportunity to win right now. Josh. Josh has only a finite amount of years to go win these Super Bowls. You have to be extremely aggressive, max out your cap, go get the best players you possibly can so you can go win a Super Bowl. Because you're getting to the divisional rounds in the, in the AFC championships with Josh Allen. Imagine if you put a few pieces around him that's like these guys not only help your team, but elevate your star player as well, who's arguably the best player in the NFL. Am I landing a plane here at all and saying that? Because when it comes to McDermott's like, I understand, but I'm not watching the game with his management, his clock manager or anything like that, thinking, oh, he's not handling the pressure of the situation, of what he's supposed to do the correct way or incorrect way. I'm watching it like, it really seems like this is a team that's being lifted and Josh Allen is dragging a team along with him. And it's, it sounds like I'm disrespecting players. I'm not. I'm just saying a player of that caliber, you need players with that caliber as well. Go make big swings in the trades to go get a true wide receiver. One guys that might be a little upset with the situation there. The first person that comes to mind is Justin Jefferson. Like you look at a Justin Jefferson, the season he's had, it's like the first year he didn't have a thousand yards. J.J. mcCarthy, it's yet to be seen whether he can be the guy. Like, what is your situation next year? I'm sure Justin Jefferson's agent getting is getting a call relaying that information to him and being like, I would love to play with Josh Allen. I know I'm going to get the ball. I'm going to have 10 targets a game. And if you get that now you have a wide receiver, one that you have to now defensively scheme for, which is going to allow the Shakira and the Colemans to have more one on ones, more open space. Whether they're a lead or not is irrelevant because you've leveled the playing field with just adding one additional.
Co-host / Football Expert
Right.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Because your offensive line is good enough. Yeah, you're. I think, I think Brown and Dawkins are great tackles. They're awesome in the middle. I'm not as familiar with, but you have kind of everything you need. And so getting McDermott out of there, you're just now adding a new wrinkle to your offseason that you don't need to add when you could go in and get people.
Co-host / Football Expert
Right. Right. It's just having, having other pieces because right now when you game playing against the Buffalo Bills, it's all about Josh Allen. Josh Allen. It's not the defense, it's not the guys around him. Like, obviously there's a level of respect because Jame Cook is a stud. They have those three tight end, those, those, those two and three tight end sets that they utilize and build a, a good Offensive gameplay, playing around, but the target is always Josh Allen. So if you have other guys, other guys around them to where they're winning because of other people outside of Josh Allen, it's like every time they win, it's because Josh Allen is having some incredible football game, Right?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. And then you look at the Broncos, man, you just heartbroken for them too. Heartbroken for the boy Bo Nicks.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Who you think, what gets the bill's job?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
So you bring up another point right now.
Co-host / Football Expert
If I'm a coach who has signed with the team, so if I'm a hardball signing with the Giants, who's it? Stefanski with the Falcons. Right now I'm trying to pull a college football portal move on everybody.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, exactly.
Co-host / Football Expert
You're like, hey, okay, how, How.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Let me dip out of here.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. How wet is the ink? Because right now, anybody who's made any progress with any team, hey, Titans are dialed in on these top three candidates. What is it like, Nagy. Who else?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Naggy. D.C. for the Packers. And Salah.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, Salah. I know Brian Flores is getting. He's getting a second interview with the Steelers. Every. Every coach on the market right now is pushing pause and telling their agent, hey, until the Bills say I have zero shot, get me. Try to get me in a room with the Buffalo Bills to become their next.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And if you're the Bills, like, do you just elevate internally? Like, Joe Brady is a massive head coaching candidate that people have wanted?
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Do you just say, okay, this is our guy now, you know, but then to me, it turns into, so why we get rid of McDermott? Because you had the O.C. like, if Joe Brady was like, I'm going to leave this year to a head coaching job. I understand the, you know, addition by subtraction kind of method that takes place with Joe. Joe Brady, but if. If that happens, it's like, dude, you. We had all the pieces.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
As of about five minutes ago, the Bills promoted Brandon being their GM on top of his current role to president of football operation. So they're saying he's going to lead the entire shirt search, so it's going to go down on him.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Friend of the show.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Friend of the show.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Get it done. Yeah, yeah, he'll get it done.
Co-host / Football Expert
I wonder, like, right now in my brain, I'm like, wondering who he has, like, relationships with in the past. Who could have this fast track to becoming the head coach.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
It's wor. I think it's worth trying to reach out.
Co-host / Football Expert
That's where you want to Go.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
One person you reach out to immediately. Mike Tomlin. No.
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Main Host / Lead Analyst
Do you reach out to my. If you're the Bills, you got to reach out to Mike Tomlin.
Guest / Sports Commentator
I think he said that he wants to, like, take a year off. He's, like, not expected to be coaching next year, granted.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Everyone's got a plan.
Guest / Sports Commentator
There's a number for everybody, so. But I truly do feel like he kind of wants to take a break after being with the Steelers for 20 some years.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Did you see the Mike Tomlin meme from the weekend he was at his daughter's gymnastics event?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
She.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
I think she is a gymnast for Georgia. And there's a picture of him, and it looks like he's not tired. It's like Mike Tomlin finally got a full night's rest for the first time. That was awesome.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I'm sure there's a piece of. That feels very fulfilled.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
You have to trade for Mike Tomlin, by the way. Yeah. Because technically, the.
Co-host / Football Expert
The Steelers. Oh, that's right.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
I mean, Buffalo would have to give up something.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
No. Tom Brady's already a minority owner in the Raiders. Is that not a massive conflict of interest?
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, yeah, he would. He would. Yeah. If anybody could figure it out, it'd be Tom. But, yeah, it seems like there's this. They're focused on figuring out lead the.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Raiders, like Bill Belichick to the. To the Bills, because how many jobs.
Co-host / Football Expert
Are open right now? You got the Raiders, you got the Cardinals, you got the Titans.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Six, seven.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Steelers, Steelers, Ravens.
Co-host / Football Expert
Ravens.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Bills.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Cleveland.
Co-host / Football Expert
Bills. Cleveland.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Titans, Raiders. Miami.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. Miami.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. That's another reason. All. For everything. You just listed all these head coaching. Yeah. You guys, Titans are screwed. We're screwed in a big way. Because now everyone's like, now turn their attention. This is the meme of the guy holding hands with the girl looking back at the other girl. Like, that's what's happening with the Bills. But all the head coaching vacancies that are taking place coupled with. There's like three or four names. If you're the Bills, like, why make this move now?
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. Because it does not feel like a hot coaching carousel.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Right. Like a Ben Johnson out there, by the way.
Co-host / Football Expert
Ben Johnson. That's what I mean. It's like, I wonder, like, what new head coaches we're going to see. Because even former ones don't you see a day ball. Has he signed yet? No, he.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He interviewed for the Eagles OC Shefty's tweet.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Dude, it made me so mad. It said Brian Dayball has interviewed for.
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Main Host / Lead Analyst
Also interviewed for Titans head coaching job.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
I was like, that means that Eagles OC job is more attractive than.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, we're tight.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, it might be Daniel. Does he get another shot as a head coach or is he going to go be an OC somewhere for a year? It's going to be interesting to see like what head coaches come into this new. Coming to these new jobs. Do what the Seahawks defensive coordinator who's.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Calling the plays there is that. That's what I want to know. Because McDaniel, I feel like.
Co-host / Football Expert
I feel like at Seattle. Yeah, it's Kubiak. Kubiak is the offensive coordinator.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Guest / Sports Commentator
I think McDonald is.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I think McDonald's is calling the play. They live in that world that LaFleur lives in where you kind of check two boxes by checking one.
Co-host / Football Expert
And McDermott was like a defensive minded guy because I'm also thinking like, do you get like a defensive minded head coach for the Buffalo Bills?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I think you do.
Co-host / Football Expert
Joe Brady is staying.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
If Joe Brady stays. Yes, If Joe Brady stays, you go defense.
Guest / Sports Commentator
I think Mike. I think Mike McDaniel wouldn't be bad here in Tennessee. I think he was handcuffed a little bit with his talented quarterback in Miami. And I think Cam Ward, like, he has shown flashes.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. And that does seem like what's coming out of Miami because I was watching, I want to say it was Darren Waller interviewing with Manziel. Kind of breaking down the brain of Mike McDaniel and how everything's going to go like in game, some of the adjustments he makes in game. And it seems like players just talk highly of Coach McDaniel.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. Which is very interesting because we were sitting here or we were told a lot of ways, like, he's not an alpha in the room. People don't really like him, though. He's losing the locker room.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
They pop off five of six.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Losing a job. Mike McDaniels wouldn't be a bad pick for the Titans.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
What about him as oc? I'm Matt Malone. I'm giving him the credit for this. This. But Robert Sala is the head coach. Mike McDaniel's OC. That would be.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. Now you're operating massive. Now you are now operating.
Guest / Sports Commentator
That would make too much sense.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Too much sense. And I feel like because of. There's Sherm. Just put it up. There's 10 head coach vacancies, essentially almost a third of the entire NFL, including the Bills. You're not going to be able to take two top head coaching candidates. Make one in OC and make one.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, we'll get to ask Jeff Simmons who he, who he'd like to see.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
That's true.
Co-host / Football Expert
He comes on the bus, see a little peak ski.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Because I still think Arthur Smith for the Titans is a, is a massive dub.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. Yeah, he'd be, he's. He's in a tough spot. It's not like he had the most successful year with the Steelers. And then the resume he does have as a head coach is going to be the Falcons. Because I agree with you. It's like we, we've been around Art like this friend of the show like he, Art's a beast. Very good player, friendly coach. I'm sure he's learned a lot from his first in, in Atlanta as a head coach, but had kind of a. Had a, felt like a tough year with the Steelers because all the injuries that they had offensively and just not a whole lot of weapons and a whole lot of pieces. It's just going to be hard for him to, I feel like sell himself over some of these head coaching candidates that are in there. But I do feel like he's on that tier with all the head coaches on the, on the board right now.
Guest / Sports Commentator
What about the, what about the DC from la? I think Don Shula.
Co-host / Football Expert
I know Shulu's been in. He's been in a few conversations.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Yeah, he's. I think he's had like a couple interviews. I don't know where, but he seems like he would be the real deal.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I got a fun stat on Arthur Smith. So these are all the quarterbacks he's had, whether being an OC or a head coach. Their win percentage without Arthur Smith coaching them is 36.11%. That's Tannehill, Matt Ryan, Marcus Mariota, Desmond Ritter, Justin Fields, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers. With Arthur Smith, the seasons he had Arthur Smith, that number jumps up to 55.24%. So a 20 swing. Almost a 20 swing. And then since he's left them, they dropped down to 42%.
Co-host / Football Expert
It's a good set.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
It's a good stat.
Co-host / Football Expert
It's a good stat. All I, all I heard was 20 increase Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers games without him.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Arthur Smith's impact on seven quarterbacks win loss record and starts Sens. Tana Hill start and on October 20, 2019. So this is since 2019. So when he took over for Ryan Tannehill, the game after we played the Broncos in 2019, 2018, whatever that was, that is the percentages that take place got A bunch more too, but you know, we gotta.
Co-host / Football Expert
I like the thought of Arthur Smith too. Just because of the, the history he has in the Titans organization. Like he cut his teeth in here, climb the ladder here.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He understands. Yeah. How the ownership typically works, how the city works, the fan base. He understands more. I got two Titans fans in the back that have been very quiet during it all, though. I'd love to hear what they have to say.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
I don't want Arthur Smith. I also think that our organization is trash. I don't think anyone understands them. I, I just don't think that there's enough of credible things he's done since he left the Falcons, since he's been with the Steelers. That makes me want other. There's other people I'd want ahead of him, but I don't personally want him. I think he had his chance as a head coach with the Falcons and it didn't pan out. He's back as an OC. If you want to come and be our OC with Asala or Mike McDaniel, sure, I'll talk about that. But I don't personally want him as our head coach. I don't think it's, it's the right time for the Titans organization. So that's where I sit. But I know that you know, he's a friend of the show. I'm not trying to dog him as.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
A person, but you like bigger names out there.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Here's another stat. Arthur Smith is the only offensive coordinator in modern NFL history to elevate seven different running backs to a thousand yards from scrimmage in a seven year span. Derrick Henry, he'll. He went from. Let me look at this real quick. 1540 yards. Derek Henry. The next year, 2100 yards. Cordell Patterson, 1100 yards. Tyler Algor. Algier. Thank you. He had 17. 1100 yards. Bijan Robinson, 1400. Naja Harris, 1300. Jalen Warren, 1200. And Kenneth Gainwell, 1023.
Co-host / Football Expert
He knows how to run the football.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Knows how to run the football. Knows how to run the football.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Hey, I'll take Arthur Smith as the OC of the Eagles if he doesn't get a head coach job. Sounds like a great coach to me.
Co-host / Football Expert
I would assume our art would be like a sought after OC like in this carousel. But it seems like he wants a second shot as a head coach. It's tough too to hold the, the Falcons stint against him because of the. Just the situation with. Yeah. Mariota Ritter.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
Like not a whole lot of pieces. Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Go ahead show them what you got.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Will Compton Taylor 1 I want to.
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Co-host / Football Expert
Good accountability. Hand up.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Good job. Still a fun stat. Let's see what else we got here.
Co-host / Football Expert
All right, so we hit on Broncos Patriots or we hit on Broncos Bills. Felt like we hit on Patriots Texans.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, we can go to the NFC in a second. Let's let's quickly talk about a taste of the offseason real quick.
Co-host / Football Expert
We want to taste the off season. Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
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Co-host / Football Expert
We want to pour one out.
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We'Re gonna pour one out for them. It's time to taste of the off season brought to you by Jim Beam. Because when your team gives you lemons, you make Jim Beam and lemonade. Listen, if you're a Houston Texans fan out there, and I know I'm a Titans guy speaking to you right now, look at your defense. All your pieces are still there for the next year. Daniel Hunter, Will Anderson, Stingley in the back. All Shair is shy.
Co-host / Football Expert
You're coming back.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Allegedly. Let's just say, hey, it's not okay. Went out for the boys right now. It can be difficult when you look on the offensive side of the ball. Nico Collins gets hurt. C.J. stroud has what, six interceptions or six turnovers and six quarters at 1.5 in.
Co-host / Football Expert
The last two games, interceptions.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And your heart is probably hurting, being like, is C.J. stroud the guy? Right. Incredible first year, sophomore slump. Third year, they won a lot. They're undefeated. When he wasn't. Junior slump, junior slump. Here's what you have to go is.
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C.J.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Stroud is a true competitor.
Co-host / Football Expert
All right.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I hate to say it. He did a great job when he was at Ohio State. True competitor. Now you have a guy with all the talent in the world who's a touch passer type of guy who could put a nice little loft on the ball, laser in there when he needs to. He is now going to the offseason with the kill everybody mentality. He's going to go into that thing of people don't believe in me. The fans don't, the coaching staff doesn't, the players don't, the ownership doesn't. Everybody is against me. Which is the best way an athlete gets better in the offseason is when he believes that no one believes in him. Him. So I think from a Houston Texan standpoint, you guys overachieved this year and next year with a pissed off CJ Stroud. Sky's the limit. Sky's the limit for you guys.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Something to think about.
Co-host / Football Expert
Something to think about.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Texans did not play. Like, Joe Mixon didn't play at all this year. He's a stud.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Guest / Sports Commentator
They also did not play without Tank Dell.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Also a stud.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Let's talk about the Seattle Seahawks. Absolutely.
Co-host / Football Expert
Do we also taste the off season? I don't want to put. I don't want to put any bad juju.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
You. Okay, go ahead.
Co-host / Football Expert
But taste of the off season. Pour one out for Bo Nicks and the Broncos. Yeah, we don't want to touch offseason and Broncos yet because they're still in the season.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And the line, it's like a four and a half. I saw Sherman pull that up. Like, that's not. That's not a bad line. Not a bad line. It's like Rams, Rams, Bears with three and a half. That's one point more.
Co-host / Football Expert
Pour one out for the emotion you're feeling with Bo Nicks, but the optimism. You got a shot, right?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
You pour one out. You take your gym beam, your lemonade, you mix together and you're pissed off about the idea of Bo Nicks not being there. But halfway through that delicious drink, you think to yourself, we still got a shot. And then you're. You're watching Stidham highlights being like, opportunity. That's all this is that you put on some Baylor film.
Co-host / Football Expert
You just cracked the code.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
A nice gym beam and lemonade and Stidham highlights to where now you're hitting the boys up and you're like. Like, fellas, everybody's sleeping on us.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
You got you guys being all negative in the group chat and you just send the link. Be like, talk to me after you watch this. Boom. Kind of nice because I kind of like stid him. I have watched no film. I've watched zero film on him. Saw a clip. Saw a clip. Handsome.
Co-host / Football Expert
Saw a photo of him.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I mean that he's real. I don't want to bring Nebraska into this, but I watched the UNLV quarterback. I saw one clip of him. I'm thinking, these guys, they got the vibes back. Yeah, they got the vibes back. Technically, they got a starting quarterback to replace their backup quarterback. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right.
Co-host / Football Expert
Anthony Castellano.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Castellanos Calandra. Calandria. Get him a cannoli. Sit him up there, put him next to Anthony Soprano. We're good. And you have, dude, your quarterback last year as a backup at Oregon. Now you got this kid who's got the juice. Yeah, he's got the juice. You know what he's got? He's already got Jim Beam and lemonade. He's not giving you a lemon in a season. Yeah, he's already got that Seattle seahawks and the 49ers. Brock Purdy got to give him a round of applause. Maybe a moment of silence after that. I don't know, dude. Kittle. Heartbreak hotel. What do you got, Will?
Co-host / Football Expert
What about pouring one out for the Chicago Bears?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Let's pour out for the Chicago Bears.
Co-host / Football Expert
And a lot of optimism going into.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Next year because you're like, hey, this. This Caleb Williams kid. We went from kind of being like, we don't. We're not. We're not a fan of him. Ben Johnson and this kids aren't getting along. There's a lot of hatred taking place in camp early in the season. Wild card game. Caleb Williams is wearing his high school football jersey walking in the game.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Kids hitting the Jordan symbol against the Packers. Yeah. Fourth and eight, running backwards, yipping in the air. Perfect throw. Yeah. So sick.
Co-host / Football Expert
I don't see how, like, if you're a fan of football and love watching the NFL, like, if you're not. Just like, if you're a Rams fan, you obviously want your team to win, but everybody else, I don't know how you don't get a little giddy seeing the Chicago Bears Take the field in the fourth quarter. Like, I feel like you, you sit there, you see them, you're like, man, are the Bears going to do it again? Are they going to do it again?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I thought they were going to do it again. They had all the momentum in the world.
Co-host / Football Expert
They did.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And then DJ Moore decided, let's take this one off.
Co-host / Football Expert
This is what pisses me off about.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Tell me what pisses you off, Greg.
Co-host / Football Expert
Not coming on this show today. Oh, this is pet peeve. You're like Ben Johnson. This is this aggressive coach. Go forward on fourth down. We're going to win. Aggressive. We're going to win. We're going to play the way the identity that got us here at all times. And then when you score at the end of the game, like, why not go for two?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Even.
Co-host / Football Expert
Even when they won earlier in this, like earlier in the season, like a month before that, they got in a similar situation. They kicked the extra point to tie it up. They go into OT and beat the team. But again, it's like, why aren't they going for two when you can go and just win the game right? Or try to win the game right there in regulation based on this, this aggressive style of coaching. Like, we're going to go forward on fourth down. We're going to do all these things. Because if you look at him being conservative, kicking the extra point going into overtime, I'm also sitting back. Why not take the points throughout the game? Because then you're you, you're up 19, 17. Yeah, because Santos hit. Santos hit a 48 yarder easy. And there were. There were moments where, where again, Caleb Williams, it was either the first drive or second drive. He throws an interception on fourth down. When they turn it over, turn it over on downs. They went for it on fourth down. He kind of sails it. But that intercepts was Donald. Caleb Williams, he had him just dropping back normal in the pocket. This dude's got to be. Again, you got to have a gun to his head when he's rolling out. That's when he makes plays. You can't just have him sit in the pocket, pat his feet and try to deliver an accurate ball. Yeah, so that one Sales and then the. The other one, I would say they. Well, it was just turnover on downs. Right. They just failed to convert.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
There were two for five.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, they failed to convert a two. One happened to be an interception. But if you kick those field goals and you in your brain, they make them extra points or field goals. That's six points right there. You're Kicking a field goal at the end of the game instead of trying to go for it to get a touchdown.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I love the thought of it being the divisional round against the Rams. You go down after that crazy touchdown and there's what, 35 seconds on the clock, 25 seconds, whatever it was. And Ben Johnson having the balls to sit there and go, you know what, we're going for two and we're going to finish the game right now. We're going to know the result of the game right after this as opposed to going to overtime.
Co-host / Football Expert
That seems to be his identity in every other situation.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Dan Campbell, Woody have, bro. Playoffs are so different. Like it feels different, right? Like I'm watching the game last night, sitting back, being like, oh my God. Like I'm feeling the pressure of this game and I'm laying in bed shirtless.
Co-host / Football Expert
Just I think Campbell. Yeah, I think Campbell go. I think Campbell.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Get a couple more loose season. Just put them on my lap. Like this is crazy, huh? I feel like feeling it.
Guest / Sports Commentator
I feel like if Caleb Williams was like actually operating like pinpointing the balls, not just being able to stand in the pocket and like he'll sail one every once in a while. I feel like Ben Johnson has more confidence in him, but he's so. He's literally 50, 50 on his last two games. It's like you don't know.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
But okay. Gun to the head move that Will just talked about. 2 point conversion end of the game. Like that is. What are you gonna do? This is. He's gonna look around. There's no one gonna be there. He's gonna scramble around, he's gonna end up on the 25 yard line and then coverage is gonna break down. Play call. Is this because when Caleb Williams has his feet set, ball up high and tight, steps into it, clean pocket, that ball's any completion. Pass incomplete. Pass as an interception. When Caleb Williams feels the pressure of 285 pound men coming down on him, that's when the boy's at his best. Are you?
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, let me run backwards. Let me run backwards 20 yards before I throw this one up and then.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Reset up and dude, when he's running the ball, he, he didn't, he didn't do any drills at the combine. He didn't run a 40.
Guest / Sports Commentator
He's fast as.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
It's kind of like when Lamar Jackson didn't do the combine because in his brain he was like, they're going to try to move me to a skill position. I kind of feel like that with Caleb Williams, bro. When he is running. He's running at a different speed than the defensive lineman as he's running out of the pocket. And then he's like, oh, I can't throw the ball downfield. I'm gonna have to run for this first down. The gear he hits is incredible.
Guest / Sports Commentator
I think he has the most amount of plays. I think over 20 miles an hour. I don't know if that's through everybody or just from quarterbacks, but even still.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
It is so impressive to watch. And if he could just figure out basic quarterback play. Do you know what I'm saying? I like all the things that the kids are doing right now in the playgrounds where they're running up and people are saying my home's like, ruin the game because these kids are just doing this. He's got that down pat. He's got all that down pat. Yeah. If he could figure out a step up in the pocket, hit the hips and just throw it.
Co-host / Football Expert
His arm is unreal.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Incredible, dude.
Co-host / Football Expert
And the play call too, for Coach Johnson at the end of the game is just you. You talk into Caleb Williams headset and you just say, hey, call your play.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Right.
Co-host / Football Expert
Do whatever you want to do.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, I'm going to call this play for you right now, but do whatever. I'll tell you what. Here's how Ben Johnson can learn from this season to his next season as a head coach in the NFL. Every game going into the season, there needs to be like an anonymous letter at his desk, like threatening his family or some sort of attack that's going to take place if he doesn't win the game. Like, it's got to be that dramatic because it seems like, like the more pressure you put on Caleb Williams, the better he is.
Co-host / Football Expert
That's how that, I mean, that's been in the spot. The situations that they were in all year. Again, it's still. I think about. I've thought about this too much. I'm like, why are you not going for it on that last, on that last touchdown, like going for two.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, I thought about it then, but then even the pressure in my brain was like, oh, that's too much.
Co-host / Football Expert
I know, but bro, think about again there, even if it's like, yeah, Dan Campbell probably goes by Ben Johnson's is OC when this stuff has happened. Obviously they're still great aggressive this year without Ben Johnson. But you get you. You play this aggressive style and then all of a sudden when you, you have a chance to just win the game, you go out right there on your sword. If you have to, because I, it's like I'm scrolling through X last night and I see Schrager talking about it. I humbly disagree with the sentiment from the halftime show. Ben Johnson's been aggressive all season on fourth down. Part of the Bears identity and what they are about in this weather, A field goal attempt is not a sure thing either. Be you. Be what got you here. And to me it's like, like, go for two. Go for two.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, you sold me on it.
Co-host / Football Expert
And how many times are we going to see a message like this at the end of every. In every postseason where somebody's just being overly aggressive? Like, when are those teams just going to win the Super Bowl? Yeah, because I feel like we get those every year now with the analytics and going for it and being aggressive on fourth down. It always ends. The season always ends with some failed attempt on fourth down, not taking the points. And it's like, hey, disagree. They need to, they need to be who they are. Be what got them there all season long. Right. When are those teams going to start winning the Super Bowl?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Well, the most conservative team this weekend is. Still has an opportunity to win the super bowl, and that's the Rams, third and seven right before the two minute warning, running the ball.
Co-host / Football Expert
Tough.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
You tweeted about it clump this morning. I forgot to dab him up. He gets in my face about not dabbing up. But the second thing he says to me is, Sean McVeigh is just not going to throw the ball. Right there. You got devonte Adams, you got Puka Nukua.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, but you, you just, you knew going into the game, first series, when they showed McVay on TV and he's got those finger, fingerless gloves on, I'm like, McVeigh, you can't be doing that. You can't be doing that. Yeah, you got the beanie on. Look, I get it. It's cold.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
It's cold.
Co-host / Football Expert
But when you, when you, when you look across the field and see Ben Johnson and just, he's got, you know, he's got the, the sweatshirt on. He's got the stuff to stay warm up top when he's bare hands and just a hat on, you're getting alpha right there. I knew it was going to be a tough day for them offensively. Right when I saw McVeigh and he's holding the play call sheet and he's got his finger sticking out of those like, like those gloves. It seems like they could transition to mittens, but you can't.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, you kind of Pop them over the top. I know what you're saying.
Co-host / Football Expert
He learned for sure.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. Classic 90s burglar gloves.
Co-host / Football Expert
I'll have to shoot him a message. Hey, we can't be having this next week. You got to tape. You got to tape your fingers.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
White tape.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Look nice. Yeah. That play, that third and seven pissed me off seeing that. It's like, dude, what are we. What are we doing here? The whole year, you. You've thrown the ball. You have the. You have the MVP of the league. You have Puka Nukua. Who's what? The best wide receiver. We can say the best wide receiver this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Devonte Adams can route up anybody in the entire world. You can run it.
Co-host / Football Expert
I couldn't believe Devonte didn't have a catch all game until late in that fourth quarter.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Luka only had like 40 yards. I fucking bet on him.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah, that Bears defense really showed up.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Overtime to McVeigh those last two plays. Second and third down. They threw an outside deep ball to a tight end on the right sideline. And then a slot fade to the tight end. Didn't target. Didn't target Puka or devonte Adams. And then what pissed me off the most about McVeigh. 13 seconds left in regulation. 2 timeouts. Takes a knee, goes into overtime. The last time a team had 13 seconds and two timeouts to tie the game or take the lead was Kansas City Chiefs against the Bills. And they tied it and then beat Josh Allen in overtime. Didn't even try to win the game in regulation.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
You're saying Sean McVeigh's got a little soft.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
I think the cold weather got to him for sure. Those little fingerless gloves or whatever he got. Like, you could tell the cold weather. Sean, he's not. He's a good looking dude. He ain't made for the cold weather.
Co-host / Football Expert
So he is a good looking dude. The outfit he had on is one where he looks. He's like, I look cute today.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
He put that on. He went up to one of his assistant coaches and goes, what do you think?
Co-host / Football Expert
And I. That's where. That's the accountability to have.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
Allowing him to walk out.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
So what Buster with the boys are saying is Sean McVeigh has too many yes men in his building. Not enough grit is what you guys are saying.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Are you saying that or you. Or is Clump saying that Sean McVeigh's bitch made.
Co-host / Football Expert
No, I'm not. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Guest / Sports Commentator
That's kind of what I just saw.
Co-host / Football Expert
A stat come out, too. McVEIGH he turns 40 this weekend, but he is. He's the only coach. Was it like 10 plus wins in the postseason which doubles anybody else before the age of 40?
Co-host / Sports Analyst
McVeigh not made, but cold weather got to him yesterday.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Well, McVeigh's head up to Seattle next weekend. How do we feel about that.
Co-host / Football Expert
Tough game. It's going to be tough to win in Seattle. The way that defense is playing, the way Walker's running the football. Sam Darnold, silence in the critics.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
Going out there balling out.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
That is the biggest storyline to come out of that game. Because the 49ers were dead. Yeah, but it was. Hey, can Sam Darnold not just be a good irregular season quarterback? Can he go in the playoffs and get himself a win?
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. The optimism that the Niners had going into this game is that if they score first and put that pressure on Sam Darnold, he won't be able to get it done.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And then. And then they scored 17 points in the first quarter.
Co-host / Football Expert
Opening kickoff, Rashid Shahid.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
Co-host / Football Expert
Best acquisition during the season in the NFL.
Guest / Sports Commentator
That play. Yeah, that play was like the fifth loudest play of all time in the NFL.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Think about the juice taking place, man, in that building. Because that building is loud. It is so hard to play there. It shook that apartment building that the.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Person was filming in that viral clip.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Structurally, that's. That's terrifying.
Co-host / Football Expert
What a great year for the NFC West. The rivalry's going on. Having another divisional game for the NFC Championship. Having that game against the Niners arrival.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And it was in front of our faces the whole time doing, doing the, the futures episode we did on the locker room. We all. I don't think any of us really thought about it until like we were in there talking about the NFC West. We realized, oh, this is the best division.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
People aren't talking about this division enough.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
So, yeah, I think, I think the Seattle Seahawks are headed to the Super Bowl.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Could you imagine that being your apartment view?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
That'd be sick.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, that would be awesome. It would be awesome.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Seattle's a dope ass city too. It's a fun city.
Co-host / Football Expert
The two games we've seen with Rams in Seattle, they've both been. They've both been bangers.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Last time Seattle and Rams played, Clay Matthews hit a 15 league parlay.
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Guest / Sports Commentator
Something to think about.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Something to think about. So whatever Clay comes with, because his pick, I think the first game, the. He bet the under on the Bills Broncos game over hit. So that's even with the line moved what, seven or Eight points.
Co-host / Football Expert
So we need him to come.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Plays got to come with some heat this week on the locker room.
Co-host / Football Expert
We need him to come with a 15 leg. We need to tell them, hey, you gotta. You gotta build a 15 leg parlay for the locker room.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. Need it. Gotta have it like Clay. Are you gonna live up to the name or. You got the name now you're just gonna live off your past successes. That's the question. Is he washed? Is Clay washed?
Co-host / Football Expert
Oh, no.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Clay.
Co-host / Football Expert
Recommend the gloves to McVeigh. Oh, I could see Clay being a fingerless glove guy.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
La Cat, man, that's tough for Clay, man. 49ers pouring out for them as well.
Co-host / Football Expert
Pour one out for the night.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Injured again.
Guest / Sports Commentator
Did you see it?
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Love to give you some optimism.
Co-host / Football Expert
I feel like they were just. They were not. It's gonna sound like I'm on them, but they were kind of like a walking corpse the whole time. Like, you just couldn't kill them. Seattle finally did. I think they were just a living dead, just conquering every game they stepped into.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. It just shows how Shanahan. How good of a coach he is. Yes.
Co-host / Football Expert
100.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Because, buddy, it. This was the inevitably going to happen. But seeing them operate throughout the season with the injuries.
Co-host / Football Expert
Mac Jones crushing it, it was an incredible weekend. That was the only game where I'm just like, second half. I kind of just. Yeah, I'm like. I was moving on to doing something.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. I have really not a whole lot of intention of watching that game because I just knew it was going to happen. Still hit the first half.
Guest / Sports Commentator
I saw on Twitter that players are starting to bring up the fact of the electrical substation.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, they're agents. It's like hitting up the organization, gaining traction.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I mean, turn on the list.
Guest / Sports Commentator
The doctor that came out going on, the doctor that came out with that first, like, article about it pulled our video from the locker room of Delaney talking about how it was a thing back when he was there. So, like, shout out us.
Co-host / Football Expert
Shout out Delaney. Shout out Boston.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Shout out us. Yeah, man. Good weekend of football.
Co-host / Football Expert
Who going around? Who you guys? Who's your super bowl pick? Who you think's gonna be in the Super Bowl?
Guest / Sports Commentator
Seahawks, Patriots, and I think think Seahawks win.
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Co-host / Sports Analyst
I'm gonna go Broncos upset the Patriots.
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Co-host / Sports Analyst
Rams. Rams win the Super Bowl. Matt Stafford wins MVP and Super Bowl.
Co-host / Football Expert
I back that matchup, too. Everybody off Rams and Broncos.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
People will be like, we're not watching. Numbers will be lower than ever. I'll watch Seahawks and the Patriots and.
Co-host / Football Expert
I think the Seahawks get it done.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And if the Seahawks do make the.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Super bowl, they should wear their throwback uniform because it's awesome.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Seahawks.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
That's a take that needs to get traction. They should wear those full time. Those are clean. Those are arguably the best uniforms in football. Teams need to wear their throwbacks in the Super Bowl. Seahawks Patriots got the Seahawks. Would love to see Would hate for my mental health to see the Patriots win, but would love to see it for variable. But I do think the Seahawks will win it.
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Broncos. Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones. Nikki Manwari holding it down on the Seattle defense. Maybe Nikki Manwari gets mvp. Maybe first rookie ever. Oh, yeah, I got Seahawks. What if it goes Seahawks? Patriots, Patriots on the goal line.
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Last play.
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Last play. Drake May throws the ball. Seattle picks it off. Even worry picks it off. Just same situation.
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Same exact situation. You. Who do you got? You got the Seahawks winning.
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It.
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Yeah, I got Seattle. Seattle winning.
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I'm gonna go Patriots. Seattle. And I got the Patriots winning. I like the Patriots. I like the pressure. I like Raves. Daddy raves getting his first super bowl as a head coach. Yeah.
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Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
And the Titans. And the Titans.
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Search. Come on, man.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Finalizing their head coaching search is crazy.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah, it brings up a good point, too.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
We're looking for people for sure.
Co-host / Football Expert
Does Braves have to cut off his piece if they win?
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100%. 100% like that is. We're calling Ellatros.
Co-host / Football Expert
Does he fulfill his destiny?
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Yeah, if.
Co-host / Football Expert
If. When they win this AFC championship game. If they win this AFC championship game. Game. I do think he needs to answer the question and say, yeah, I'm willing to cut my piece off to win The Super Bowl.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Do we go to super bowl media days when Mike Vrabel takes the podium and ask him that question?
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A billion percent.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Have to.
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Have to show up with some scissors.
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Right. But little tiny scissors. I've come to fulfill my brave destiny. What we should do is if the Patriots make it, we should get like a gold pair of scissors, like in a stand that he could put in his office and a little plaque. Amen.
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What's the plaque say?
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Peaceless since 2026. I don't know.
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Willing to do whatever it takes. We just have it written in a.
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Plaque with that little Willing to do whatever it takes. I think that would be a gift that Braves would love forever.
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Yeah, quick random one that was. That's been going around on the Internet, which this is separate of the playoffs. But what team does Khalil Mack belong to? Raiders, Bears or chargers? He played four seasons with all of them. He had over 35 sacks for each of those teams. He's had a bunch of total tackles, a bunch of TFLs and a bunch of quarterback hits. But four seasons with each team, every single team he produced for.
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That's a great.
Co-host / Football Expert
Who gets to play.
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It's your talk.
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Could be.
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He drafted the Raiders.
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Like all the high peak of everything, it feels like Raiders.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Yeah.
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40 sacks with the Raiders, 36 with the Bears, 36 and a half with the Chargers. That's so many. That is nuts, man.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
But he's been on the Raiders for eight years.
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40, 68 TFL.
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He was on the Raiders for eight years. Four years. Four years. Four years for all those teams.
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Did you.
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No, no, no. They. They traded Max. So they shows you how badly the Raiders fell. Well, it's a clear space to bring you in.
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Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know the answer. That's a great question.
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I did have a. If we're wrapping up, I did have.
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A fun little tear talk that gets Yalls personal insight on being on the sideline.
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All right. At Hawks daddy. Hashtag tear talk. Every time. Every time I go to an NFL game, I catch myself watching the sidelines. Is it really just watching the last series and making adjustment adjustments or is there more than what the average fan sees? Funny or tense moments, differences of being a rookie versus a veteran, Routines, secrets. Great question. Big question. Loaded question.
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Yeah. As far as adjustments go, I feel like you're like three series in before. Like the offensive staff comes up to you because, okay, this is the defense. They've tried, they've done they're trying to take this away. We're going to move to X, Y and Z in the run game.
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Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
As we're going to try in the past game.
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Very intense. Making adjustments on the sideline. And then once that moment's over, you get some funny moments.
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Yeah. Sitting there making fun of a guy who maybe got beat in a play.
Co-host / Football Expert
Maybe making fun of yourself.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah.
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Yeah. How big he's gonna show up. Oh, God. I. I know. I already know.
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It's films will be tough on Monday and we're already. We're only 10 minutes into the first quarter.
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Yeah.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
How big a lead did.
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Do you guys need personally before you.
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Started making jokes or were you okay making jokes down?
Co-host / Football Expert
It could be a tie ball game.
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Yeah. On the line, like the last play of the game and there's like a timeout. Somebody calls a time at Kodak timeout. You're joking around a little bit. Yeah. Got to keep it loose.
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Yeah.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. I don't envy that situation, though, being on the sideline. Yeah.
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A rookie versus vet. Like, as a rookie, like, it's just quiet. Keep your head down.
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Yeah. Rookie, you just like, you don't even really know what the game plan is. You're kind of just doing what they call it. As you get older, you start to understand the chess moves that are kind of being put in front of everybody. But as a rookie, you're just like, I hope we win.
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That's what's even worry like runs his mouth so much right after the Seahawks Niners game, he just tweets out trash. Golly. Hey, tonight's the game. National championship. No, Miami. Indiana.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
You. Who you want? You. You're going Indiana to win. Miami to cover still.
Co-host / Football Expert
Yeah. My bet will probably be Miami to cover. Is it still eight and a half?
Co-host / Sports Analyst
Speaking of half, the, like, adjustments on the sideline, say the other team was able to, like, know what your adjustments were going to be. Would that impact the game, you think?
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Say that again.
Co-host / Sports Analyst
No, I was just asking a question.
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A billion percent.
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Yeah. If they know what you're doing.
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Just asking.
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What's the angle of that question.
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Indiana's probably going to win big against Miami. That's my. That's my.
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Listen, if you want to go down the tinfoil hat game of Indiana cheating like crystal ball has gone to. He's gone back to caveman times of paper and pencil.
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That's awesome.
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That has been an email sent to.
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Me, you got to think, too. If that's. If that's like, a real thing, like, Crystal Ball is probably doing everything he can to where they're not in a situation like that.
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And if Criswell's a head coach, get out the whiteboard rumor. Like, yeah, boys, we're just going over this. We'll give you a binder with all the plays.
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The whiteboard would be sick on the sideline.
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Break every iPad.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Yeah. See you later. Don't even bring them on.
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Let me see here. Let me. Let me pull a fandom.
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Taylor.
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I did have.
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Because I might do. Because I know in Tennessee, you can do, like, totals of rushing yards, pass yards, total yards. Like, I might do a little parlay with Indiana Moneyline and then put a little something together.
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Make sure to hit the group chat. I had a fun little tear talking. This is Sergeant Scuba 22. So let me take a wild guess at what Willie C. Is thinking. And Notre Dame would be both of these teams.
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Is Steven spot on. That's for sure. Going to be a tweet I just throw out there later tonight.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Notre Dame's not beaten either. Lost to one of them already. Yeah, exactly.
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Would have beat him the second time.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
I don't think so. I mean, going to the playoffs, we're like, is Notre Dame a better team than Miami right now? Clearly. No Miami. Just turn it on in a hurry. Hurricane. Is a hurricane coming in Miami tonight? Let us know in the comments what you think. He is nuts. All right, boys. We feel good about it. Everyone's happy.
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I think he's looking for something.
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I'm looking. I'm. I'm trying. I'm building a parlay right now.
Main Host / Lead Analyst
Will's moved on. He's over the NFL recap as well. We hit it. We hit it all.
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Okay. Anything we missed? Do you guys think. Trying to run through every situation.
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Miss y' all over the weekend.
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I miss you guys over the week.
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I get in the new house this week.
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Well, hey, let's get in the new house this week. Try to. I last. Yesterday morning, I texted Will. I was like, what are the chances you and Charl want to come over and play Catan today? And you'd hit me with the. We're moving a couple stuff in the new house. I knew it was over from that moment, and it was already an uphill battle, but we got to get around it.
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Oh, for sure. We're. We're both down for catan. We love some catan.
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I seem to get the game more than anything. I need reps.
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I need reps and even Risk. Like if we were to play Risk. I have Game of Thrones version of Risk.
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Episode: NFL Divisional Round Recap: Seahawks Look Unbeatable, Rams Survive + Can Broncos Win Without Bo Nix?
Date: January 19, 2026
Hosts: Will Compton & Taylor Lewan (plus recurring guests/co-hosts)
This episode of Bussin’ With The Boys dives deep into NFL Divisional Round action. Will Compton and Taylor Lewan recap all four playoff games, debate key storylines, and look ahead at the Conference Championships. The episode features candid player insights, strong opinions, and locker room banter—with a big focus on Bo Nix’s injury, Josh Allen’s heartbreak, wild referee calls, and the unstoppable-looking Seahawks.
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Bo Nix, Denver's rookie QB sensation, broke his ankle at the end of the game—a bombshell for AFC Championship hopes.
Rumors & Conspiracies: Twitter “doctors” claim he played hurt (“Allegedly. Conspiracies out there, arguing it was sooner and Sean Payton’s lying...”).
Heartbreak over missing Nix: “It sucks that Bo Nix is not in the AFC Championship.”
Can Jared Stidham pull a Nick Foles?
Vegas Odds: Seahawks (+150), Patriots (+220), Rams (+220), Broncos the long shot at +1300 ([10:03]).
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For the full episode experience—complete with inside jokes, deep-dives into matchups, and sideline stories—listen to “Bussin’ With The Boys: NFL Divisional Round Recap.”