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Will Compton
Welcome to another episode of the Locker Room. I'm your host, Will Compton. I have my boy here, Taylor Lawan. He will be hosting with us as well. We also have Clay Matthews, Delaney Walker, nowhere to be seen for this episode. He went 2 and 4 last week. He's had an abysmal year. He wanted to get off, get some fresh air. We honestly don't know where he is. All right, for the slate this week, week 12, we got Steelers and Bears, Vikings and Packers, Eagles and Cowboys, Sunday Night Football, Bucks and Rams. Bucks and Rams this weekend, buddy. Monday Night football. Panthers and 49ers have been looking pretty good.
Taylor Lawan
They run the ball well.
Will Compton
And the Colts and the Chiefs.
Taylor Lawan
Does that one excite you? Yeah.
Will Compton
All right, let's get over here to the standings before we get into the show. Standings last week, buddy. Good job. Taylor, 4 and 2. He's 34 and 32 on the year. Your boy, Willie C, 2 and 4. Clay Matthews, 3 and 3. Delaney Walker, 2 and 4. Let's have a great show today. If you're for the boys, you're for the locker room. You're for the banter. Make sure you are subscribed. Like comment throughout the episode. Let's have a lot of fun. Let's have a lot of fun.
Taylor Lawan
Let's have fun today.
Will Compton
Get into it.
Clay Matthews
This is an I heart podcast.
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Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line.
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But first, There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
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Taylor Lawan
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Will Compton
No Delaney, man.
Clay Matthews
And he's MIA or what do we.
Taylor Lawan
We don't know where he is. Called the police. They said he's got to be missing for 24 hours before we can actually put something in.
Clay Matthews
Okay.
Taylor Lawan
So we're gonna. We're in that process right now. It's like hour six.
Clay Matthews
We lost some diversity on the show. Is there. We didn't think about bringing a guest in or we.
Taylor Lawan
I think there was conversations that took place.
Will Compton
Yeah, there were conversations.
Clay Matthews
Okay.
Will Compton
There were conversations.
Taylor Lawan
You'd have been sick about the person we brought in, though.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, bro.
Taylor Lawan
You would have been threatened.
Will Compton
I was hoping.
Taylor Lawan
Oh, my God.
Will Compton
We got this one in here.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah. Linebacker. If he came in, just know we.
Will Compton
Would have ran a tag team on you.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, well, Eiffel Tower.
Will Compton
Yeah, we would have been Eiffel Tower in your ass.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, I'm sitting there with the camcorder, just watching.
Clay Matthews
I don't. I don't follow. But you don't follow. Follow, like why? Who. Who's this. Who's this lady you're talking about?
Will Compton
You'll see one day.
Taylor Lawan
You'll see one day this individual will come. And when they come, it'll be on you. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
I don't think I'll. I don't think I want to be here today.
Taylor Lawan
Do you got any Gifts or anything? Let me lock into place real quick. Hold on.
Clay Matthews
Do I have any gifts? Is this what you needed though? You look kind of down, dog.
Taylor Lawan
I am. Thank you for being aware of my situation.
Clay Matthews
Yes. I'm sorry for what you're going through. It seems like a lot.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
I'm here for you just for the hour that we film and then you gotta go.
Taylor Lawan
He's gotta get home. No doubt about it.
Will Compton
You got anything going on this time of year? You just, you just.
Clay Matthews
We just. I just had our property bush hog and then I drove around and there was two downed trees. So I took out my, my steel 660. Just massive chainsaw, 32 inch blade on it. Just was cutting through it like butter.
Will Compton
Are you like shirtless when you're doing this?
Clay Matthews
No, I don't want to get poison ivy on me, but I'm just grinding out there.
Will Compton
Are you a poison ivy guy?
Clay Matthews
Like, oh, yeah, I get it bad. Well, I wouldn't say I get it bad. I get it. And inevitably, if you do the work the hard guy, work the strong guy work that I do, like you're just going to get a little bit on your forearms sometimes when you're mowing around it, you know, the spray in the air gets right around here. I know you guys don't mow your lawn, but like, that is pretty bad. Weed whacking too. Weed eating. Like that'll get you up here as well.
Will Compton
Yeah, dude, I used to get into some poison ivy.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
I'm talking.
Taylor Lawan
You used to play in that?
Will Compton
Yeah, I used to plan I'd be butt naked in front of a fan.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Pink calamine lotion all over my body.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Waking up, can't open my eyes.
Clay Matthews
Have you ever had to get a prednisone shot because it's so bad? Let me give you a story. When I first came out here. So we bought this property several years ago and there's a vine hanging from the tree and I spent some time outdoors. But you know, okay, if it leaves a three, let it be big vine. I'm just over here trying to pull it down out of the tree. Unbeknownst to me. It's a poison ivy vine. Dude, I had it so, so bad. It was coming in on the palms of my hand, all over my knuckles and whatnot. I had to get a shot in my buttocks. Prednisone first one.
Will Compton
Is it a prednisone shot in the butt?
Clay Matthews
USC days, I think I did get tore all once for my shoulder at usc. I broke the. Broke the broke. The tip. Just. The tip broke off.
Will Compton
Ac.
Clay Matthews
Well, yeah. Well, I mean, it was the clavicle or whatever.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Will Compton
Collarbone, something up there. One of them bones.
Taylor Lawan
That's anatomy.
Will Compton
One of them bones. Up top.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Hey, did you guys. I'm just curious. You guys get, like, special treatment or, like, how. How were your. How were your doctors in college? Like, because here's what I'm getting at. When I went to sc, like, you know, I was a walk on and whatnot. And you just don't get as a walk on. You know, you're kind of on the bottom of the totem pole. And I know you're Tylenol or something. You were, like, a big deal. And obviously you were as curious because, like, when I went to the rams in year 11, they took a. I got. I have a torn labor in my left shoulder. Like, we just want to, you know, compare it to your right. In my right. I had hurt my AC joint. It's just grade one. You're good. You know, head back out there. Never got an X ray. Never got an image. Dude, there was just chips of bone everywhere that had, like, recalcified that they didn't take a picture of back in the day. And then also, I had. I broke my. My L4 metacarpal. And when it healed, they just kind of threw it in a cast. I continued to play with it. It healed like this. And then I had to have surgery to kind of shave it down. So just, you know, a little. Little medical malpractice. I was just wondering if you guys.
Taylor Lawan
USC gave some medical. Medical.
Clay Matthews
They didn't give medical malpacts. I'm just saying, as a walk on, you're not like, top of the list. Like, hey, you know, Mr. Compton, come right in here. I was. I was taking the bus to. To the hospital down there in la, is all I'm saying. It was just different times.
Will Compton
Maybe the. Maybe the docs might be thinking something different with, like, getting us healthier. Healthier than a walk on. But as far as, like, in my brain, I never felt like. It wasn't until the NFL you realize you have some. Like, you're a guy, you get to ask for whatever you want. In college, you're just kind of like, you know, head down. They're saying it's a sprained ankle. So I guess it's a sprained ankle or, hey, you're not gonna practice. Hey, we'll tape it up. And you're kind of like, all right, I guess I have to practice today. Whereas when you get in the NFL and you get some years underneath. You're like, hey, I'm kind of not feeling. Yeah, I'm not feeling well, I need to. Or they actually take care of you.
Clay Matthews
That's what I'm saying. Because they're invested in you.
Will Compton
We're gonna hold you out in college. Dame. You guys are gonna hold me out in college.
Clay Matthews
You're one of like a hundred plus people on the team. I shared a number. Do you guys have to share numbers in the NFL? In the NFL.
Will Compton
I shared a number my rookie year. First Alfred Morris, but then.
Clay Matthews
No, no, but you switched though, obviously, once.
Will Compton
Once I got active.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor Lawan
But I'm saying like week 17.
Will Compton
Week 17, year one, baby.
Clay Matthews
In college.
Taylor Lawan
Ollie got your number.
Clay Matthews
Week 17 in college we had, you know, the walk ons. Always had to have double numbers. So I was 47 plus all my shoes. They write 47 plus my tags, 47 plus. But you know, that made me who I am. Yeah, just a dog, you know, having to go through all that. But I just, you know, grid and spit. Just dealing with a couple ailments. So I just wanted to ask and see if that was your guys experience in college. No.
Taylor Lawan
Paul Schmidt, Lenny and Philly at Michigan. They were always great to me. Those are, those are the trainers.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I don't, I don't even know the trainers.
Taylor Lawan
They were always great. Well, I wanted to say their names because I respect them so much. I know they watch the show. They were awesome. I never got injured in college. The only time I got hurt was I dislocated my elbow in spring ball and it was an open practice. There happened to be an elbow doctor there. So my hand was like my palm was facing the other way.
Clay Matthews
It didn't just sublux. Was it your left or your right?
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, it snapped like this bone went over here. Like it flipped.
Clay Matthews
Was it just a ligament?
Taylor Lawan
Ucl, so there was no ligaments torn, it just dislocated. Doctor comes in, they do like a floral on it. And a floral is like an X ray that you can like, you press a button and it takes the X ray and you can kind of move the bone around to kind of see where everything's at. And yeah, elbow doctor specialist is there. They bring him in. He like grabs my hand and then puts his elbow right at my elbow and puts it back in. He's like, yeah, we'll get MRI on that and see if there's anything torn or broken. Go get an mri. Nothing torn. And so remarkable other than like a Couple of like low ankle sprains. I never really had anything in college.
Will Compton
He like, he's talking about a grade one AC and a jam finger.
Taylor Lawan
Like that age.
Will Compton
That's what I kind of heard from you. And you said in college. Yeah, like, I had four major surgeries in college.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I know I'm sitting in a wheelchair. You sound soft.
Will Compton
Broken foot. There's a pain in this foot. Ankle surgery.
Clay Matthews
Sports are just like, not athletic enough to. You just get a hold of it.
Will Compton
Yeah, you kind of get some ceiling limitations. Second team all Big Ten. Still find a way.
Taylor Lawan
You revved the engine too hard, bro. Those rpms are gonna cause a couple issues.
Clay Matthews
You were only second team. I was second team. Second team. Pack 10 at the time. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, I was a walk on. How are you gonna let me be second team? Pac 10? And you were like that guy.
Will Compton
Yeah, but it worked. Like, when did you get drafted?
Clay Matthews
First.
Will Compton
First round.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
So what were your accolades Your senior year?
Clay Matthews
3 and a half, 4 and a half sacks.
Will Compton
Your accolades? We're not talking. You want to tell everybody my first.
Clay Matthews
Round pick in my career, I had five and a half. I had five and a half or six and a half sacks in four years.
Taylor Lawan
And you got picked in the first round.
Will Compton
Genetics.
Taylor Lawan
No.
Clay Matthews
Name, name, name, name.
Taylor Lawan
Right, exactly.
Clay Matthews
And did that name get me? Rookie Pro bowl, second year, Super Bowl?
Taylor Lawan
Probably helped.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, all right.
Taylor Lawan
Probably hell, rookie Pro Bowl.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. 10 sacks as a rookie. Me and Iraqpo.
Taylor Lawan
Okay.
Will Compton
We still got you revved up from last week, huh?
Taylor Lawan
But hey, but 10 sacks is a rookie.
Clay Matthews
I didn't even look at the comments. If your name.
Will Compton
If your name was Will Compton, if.
Taylor Lawan
Your name was Will Compton, you're not making the Pro Bowl.
Will Compton
Your rookie, he ain't getting drafted.
Clay Matthews
No, no, because you didn't get active till weeks.
Taylor Lawan
Five and a half sex your entire career.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Sc. Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
And your biggest accolade was second team all Pac 10.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
So what was it your senior year when you were making that run? When you get on the magazine and everything else?
Clay Matthews
Well, the reality was we were a very good team. We had an outstanding defense and I was like the hot girl, the new hot girl. Like, you know, coming in like this.
Will Compton
Raymond Luga. There's Brian Cushing. But hang on.
Clay Matthews
Ray and Kush were studs. You knew what you were getting. And then with me, it's like I started showing flashes. Like I would just show up on camera, whether it was the few sacks I had, tfls, forced fumbles like I was just a try hard white guy. So that, that stuck out. And then I also had a certain level of athleticism.
Will Compton
Yeah. Get the long arms, got the nice ass.
Clay Matthews
So.
Taylor Lawan
So did you. Did you know you were gonna go first round like when you sent the letter in and they tell you.
Clay Matthews
Well, no, I didn't. I didn't have to send the letter because I was five years there at sc, so I had to.
Taylor Lawan
Okay, so while you're going through the combine process.
Clay Matthews
So I figured just from talking with AJ scout Cheetah, you name, that there was a real possibility I would go 10 through 15 in 2009. Denver, I think Josh McDaniels was the coach or just going to be the coach there. They ran a 3, 4 with, I think Dumerville was there on one side, but they picked Robert Ayers out of Tennessee and Noshon Moreno, I believe. And then around the Houston Texans, they actually picked Cushing. At the time, I think that was like 15 to 17, I believe, maybe earlier. And then I figured 20 through 25, it was. The Falcons were running a 3 4. They picked Pariah Jerry out of Ole Miss, I believe. And then 26 was on the clock. New England Patriots. Who. Bill Belichick was the coach of the Cleveland Browns. And my dad played for the Cleveland Browns, so he knew, you know, what my dad was about. He knew what the family was about. They were getting old. I forget who was on the. Who was playing on the edge, but they were getting older and they were going to go younger. And that's when Green Bay traded back up and took me. So what number did you get? If I didn't, I went 26. If I didn't go first, it was anywhere from second to third. Wow.
Taylor Lawan
So you really had no idea day one?
Clay Matthews
No. No idea. I didn't have any problems or anything.
Taylor Lawan
The odds are actually against you to go to the top 32.
Clay Matthews
I wouldn't say they were against me, but I definitely didn't think Green Bay, Green bay had the ninth overall pick. Like, I'm, I'm probably not going top 10. I wasn't even thinking like that. That was BJ Raji. And then when they dropped, when they, they traded up, they called me. It was a 920 number. My agent told me, whoever calls, like, tell them, like, yeah, people are calling you and hey, we're thinking about trading up and coming to get you. I was like, all right, cool. All right, we're going to do it right now. I was like, all right. And then it flashed on the screen and the rest was history.
Taylor Lawan
What was that? What was it emotionally like for you? You just go hug your dad, like, thank you.
Clay Matthews
It was. It was. It was cool because I did it at home. I didn't go to New York. I don't even know if I was invited. Had muscle milk all around and everything.
Will Compton
Yeah, you did.
Taylor Lawan
Hell, yeah.
Clay Matthews
And. Oh. And then my dad goes, oh, you got to give a speech. I was like, all right, cool. And then I just started breaking down because I had all my close family and friends, the ones who believed in me from the get go, the ones who were there, you know, no one who just showed up on the scene like the agents and all that. So it was special. It was cool.
Taylor Lawan
That's awesome.
Will Compton
It's a good story, man.
Taylor Lawan
That fires me up. Five and a half sacks her entire career.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
Second team Pac 12. Who's first team?
Clay Matthews
Kush. Kush and Ray. And then there was. There was three.
Will Compton
So were you in the linebacker category?
Clay Matthews
Yes.
Will Compton
Yeah.
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Clay Matthews
Accolades. Yes. I was a linebacker. I think Kaluka and myself were second team. Ray and Kush were first. Him. And there was like, maybe it was Zach Follett from Cal. He was first. Cal actually had, like, three stud linebackers at the time. I think they finished first and second as well. They had a decent team that year. It was a good little class.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Good little class.
Taylor Lawan
Nice.
Will Compton
Good little class.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Appreciate, you know, revisiting history and whatnot. You kind of getting to know me a little bit.
Taylor Lawan
It's nice to learn about you, man. Absolutely, bro.
Clay Matthews
Who should we get to know about this week, though?
Will Compton
Are you talking about the games?
Clay Matthews
Talking about the games, yeah.
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Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
You know where you're going?
Will Compton
I'm going to go rock.
Taylor Lawan
Okay.
Will Compton
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Taylor Lawan
8 and 6.
Will Compton
I would have felt bad. Like you were in a wheelchair. I would have felt bad. No, I just got to tell you.
Taylor Lawan
What, That's a classic. I think George Kittle talked about that on our podcast, how he's like, you tell people what they're going, it gets in their mind so much that they go the opposite. And you still do what you said you were going to do.
Will Compton
I was literally thinking, I'm going to throw rock.
Taylor Lawan
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Will Compton
I'll tell you what.
Taylor Lawan
Bears okay, that's great. Let's introduce the game first.
Will Compton
Zaskany I was just giving a team. I wasn't like gonna start talking about the game.
Taylor Lawan
Steele the Bears. The Bears are favored minus two and a half the total points in that game is 44 and a half points. You like the Bears?
Will Compton
I like the Bears. I'm just excited that, you know, they're seven and three. The city's on fire. The city's backing them. Caleb Williams is fourth quarter wins. I'm just excited for the Bears. And to me it's, they have to win this week. They have to win because their next six at Philly, they still got the packers. Twice at San Francisco, they still got to play the Lions. Like they have to win this week.
Taylor Lawan
Gotta get this one.
Will Compton
They gotta get this one this week. And I'm like kind of rooting for him. You know what I mean?
Taylor Lawan
No, no, no.
Will Compton
You see Ben Johnson, you see the speeches after the game.
Clay Matthews
It's good for football when an organization like Chicago has some success. It's good for the rivalries is what I'm saying. But I, I'm sorry to cut you off there, but when they won and all of a sudden it said seven and three, I had to look at my TV again, first in the NFC north, because I think it's a foregone conclusion that, hey, it's either the Lions or the packers who are going to win. And then the Lions and Packers keep dropping games, but all the while the Bears win in their last seven of eight. And for someone like me, like, I haven't watched them since week one when they lost on Sunday or Monday Night Football to the Vikings, they got drubbed by the Lions. And then the last game I saw was against Commanders, in which case, you know, you're just like, it was like a rainy game. You thought nothing of it. But they deserve it, though. I mean, Caleb, Ben Johnson has been everything that you could have hoped for and asked for out of, out of a head coach. Top five in offense. Second ranked rushing attack. Caleb Williams has cut his sacks more than in half. He doesn't turn the ball over and they play mistake free penalty free offense. Their defense has some issues, but they're opportunistic. They create turnovers. Right.
Will Compton
And still kind of bottom 10.
Clay Matthews
Which is why I think it's impressive after 11 weeks or whatever week we're on that they're in first place. I don't think they're going hold on to it, but it is, it is impressive of what he's been able to do in just one year.
Will Compton
Can you imagine now going off of the. How they progressed over the last three. They've averaged 30 points per game over the last three. 430 total yards over the last three. Number two in rushing, number one in the league over the last three games now, they played the Bengals, Giants and Vikings. So this be a big game for them against the Steelers. But could you imagine if the Bears win the North? The Bears still suck. Clip that Clay Matthews had on draft night. Just going into a montage.
Taylor Lawan
God, that Bears.
Will Compton
Oh, Chicago Bears got this letter here.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, Shut up, bitch.
Will Compton
They're still sunk in there.
Clay Matthews
Let's wait till the end of the year. Okay. I gave them their praise, but they still got to back it up. But could you imagine that'd be great for them.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, I think. I love.
Clay Matthews
It was a great moment for me. It was a great moment for Green Bay. It was a great moment for packers fans all over the world.
Will Compton
It was great.
Taylor Lawan
It was really good.
Clay Matthews
But I need the Packers. We're going to talk about them in a minute. I need them to get their identity right.
Taylor Lawan
They got to figure something out.
Clay Matthews
They got to figure something out.
Taylor Lawan
They got to figure something out. I'm going the Bears minus two and a half here. They need to have it. I mean, you gave the stats in the last three games. I mean, Caleb didn't play exceptionally well against the Vikings last week. But I said this on bus with the boys, like, he might be the most elusive quarterback in the NFL right now. I know people want to lean towards Lamar Jackson. He's got, like, a soft tish issue. At least he seems like he has a soft tish. He had it early in the year. I don't think he's fully gotten back to that. But Caleb Williams, you have defenders draped over him multiple times a game, and he has this ability to get out of it, extend plays. He's very athletic, but I think he's more athletic than he's getting credit for his ability to push the ball down the field. Moore and Odunze, like, those guys are doing the thing, wide receiver things, the wide receiver things, like, they're catching the ball and, like, running with it. That's kind of cool. And then Loveland's really come on in the last few weeks, too. They've been utilizing him quite a bit. And the run game, man, they're very. They're a very balanced attack to where their first drive, you see, like, okay, that's Ben Johnson. That's him calling plays, scripting their top 15 plays, and then kind of sputter out. And then you see what happens in the fourth. They have a level of consistency now on the offensive side of the ball that's like, yeah, they could hold on to this. I mean, the Back half of their schedule is tough, but if they get this one and the packers and the Lions keep, like, fumbling one or two here and there, like, they could easily end up with the NFC North. So I'm gonna take the Bears minus two and a half.
Will Compton
Yeah, I like Bears.
Clay Matthews
I like Bears minus two and a half.
Will Compton
Yeah, Caleb does, bro. Like, he had one where they, you know, it was like a play action pass and rusher was coming off the edge, and right when he turns around, the rusher's like, right there in his face and he flips his hips and just zips it out. His ability is exceptional. Yeah, and I love that he stays with the deep ball, too. Like, he might get into situations or throws a pick or misses on a couple deep, but he stays with attempting the deep ball. Like, he doesn't shy away from the fray.
Taylor Lawan
I know you look at guys like Jalen Hurts, who's like, so risk adverse, and he never even the 50, 50 balls. He doesn't put those up. And then you see Caleb Williams and he's like, fuck it. I'm just gonna rip it around. He plays backyard football in, like, a really fun way where it's becoming more and more enjoyable to watch. I think a lot of things off the field stuff was like, turning off a lot of, like, football fans. But seeing the way he's operating the middle part of the season, man, Danny O.
Will Compton
Has a fun set for Caleb, too. 80 QBR using play action. 3rd highest in the NFL. Almost 800 yards from under center. 4th most in the NFL. Bears love to get under center. Daniel loves under center football.
Clay Matthews
I think for as much as we give, we anoint Ben Johnson, which he is as this amazing play designer. You know, these creative route concepts at the heart of it. He wants to run the ball. He wants to be a physical team. We saw that in Detroit and I think that's why they're that, you know, like you had just mentioned the play action. The under center is having so much success because of the run game here, so I think they stick with that identity. Offense is looking great. They just need to shore up that defense if they want to contend in the end.
Will Compton
Big game for him. All right, next game. We got.
Delaney Walker
Delaney still is still not rocking with Caleb.
Odoo Ad Voice
Okay.
Will Compton
Okay. Oh, we do have Delaney's picks. Yeah, we have. You don't know where he is, but we do have Delaney's picks.
Delaney Walker
We don't know where he is. We have his picks back here. Delaney's still not rocking with Caleb Williams. He's going Steelers plus two and a half.
Will Compton
That's great for us. That's great for us.
Clay Matthews
Love it. Love it.
Taylor Lawan
Thank you, Delaney.
Will Compton
Thank you, Delaney.
Taylor Lawan
That's a lock. That one feels good.
Will Compton
Oh, yeah. So, Derek, I know you're a Pittsburgh Steelers guy. We got Vikings.
Taylor Lawan
Hey, real quick, last thing. Aaron Rodgers with the left wrist. Like, I would love nothing more than to see him come out with a club and still sling.
Clay Matthews
He'll be out there.
Taylor Lawan
How sick would that be? Defender comes just kind of. That would be unreal.
Will Compton
Steelers Minnesota at Green Bay packers are favored by six and a half. The over under on this game is 41 and a half. What are we going to get from your pack this week, Clay?
Clay Matthews
My packers, they're. They. They're having an identity crisis right now. We got to figure out who they are, what they want to be about. I talked about Ben Johnson wanted to run the ball. I know Matt LaFleur is about that as well. They have not had the success that I'm sure they would have liked. Josh Jacobs, is he playing this week? Man, I just. The receivers had a ton of Drops, bro. 4 Romeo Dobbs had some horrible ones. I did make up for it later in the game, but, man, for as much flack as Jordan love catches, I thought he played well yesterday or however many days this past weekend. I thought he made some really good throws when it mattered, when it counted. They look like to me at first he's just throwing the ball up, but then I'm not sure who it was. But on that third and 10, when they're at the middle of the field, four minutes left, he caught. Williams caught it, and then he threw that. That beautiful pass to Christian Watson in the back of the end zone, which, you know, remarkable passes because I know it's. Listen, you're following in the footsteps of Favre Rodgers, and they give you a bunch of money. They bring in Micah like, hey, now's the time to get over the hump. But I thought he played well. The defense has been kind of keeping them in games. Yesterday they couldn't get off the field. They were struggling in man coverage. They had some opportunities to create some interceptions, more than the one in which they sealed the game on, which was great. Yeah, some miscommunication between the wide receiver and Jameis, but, you know, once again, you're playing the Giants without, you know, Jackson dart. James comes in there. James is fun to watch, though. I like, I was having so much fun watching and thinking, like, he's going to do this. He's going to pull it off, but packers got to figure it out. I think that was a big win. Never apologize for any wins in this league. I got them. I know you guys are going to hate this because. What's the spread on this game right here?
Will Compton
Six and a half.
Taylor Lawan
Packers are.
Clay Matthews
I'm taking the packers money line here.
Taylor Lawan
Nope.
Clay Matthews
Yep. You're not going to bully me out of this one.
Taylor Lawan
There's no bullying. Let me. Okay, let me explain it to you.
Clay Matthews
I'm taking the packers money line. I think this is a close game. Give me the packers money line.
Taylor Lawan
Okay, so let me just. By taking packers money line.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
You're putting your odds in a horrible situation if you think it's going to be a close game by saying, I'll take Vikings.
Clay Matthews
I understand how it works.
Will Compton
I'm minus six and a half.
Clay Matthews
I understand now. I understand how it works.
Taylor Lawan
Vikings are dogs. So take the Vikings plus six and a half.
Clay Matthews
Hey, I parlayed all six of my picks, okay? Just so that way I wouldn't have to deal with this from you. I already put money on it. Okay. Hey. Plus 1400. 1489.
Will Compton
And these are all money Olympics put.
Clay Matthews
250 down for a $4,000 payoff. No, I got. I got. I got three money lines in there.
Will Compton
That's a parlay.
Clay Matthews
That's a parlay.
Will Compton
We just picking this game. All right, Just so. So for the viewer at home, Clay's got this game being close. He's taking the packers to win.
Clay Matthews
He's taking.
Will Compton
He's taking the Vikings to cover.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
No, I ain't saying that because I don't want you guys.
Will Compton
That is how it works, but that is just. That's just the natural reality.
Clay Matthews
I understand, but I don't. Why would Fanduel give me the option to pick the money line if I have to pick the Vikings covering here?
Taylor Lawan
Fanduel gives you the option. This show is. Hey, we're picking.
Clay Matthews
Did Fanduel call in telling you what to think? Is that what's happening right now?
Will Compton
Clay standing on heavy business with this money six and a half money line.
Taylor Lawan
The problem is he didn't know what business he's in.
Clay Matthews
The business is the winning business. All right?
Taylor Lawan
You're looking by your standings, which I understand, and if we call it.
Clay Matthews
Oh, so you're scared. No, I'm just curious.
Taylor Lawan
Okay, so why don't you wheel over here? 49ers or minus 70. It's the Panthers. I'll take Niners money line.
Clay Matthews
Perfect. I got that, too.
Taylor Lawan
Rams, I'll take. I'll take money line. Six and a half.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, absolutely.
Taylor Lawan
Game of the week. Dude.
Clay Matthews
Dude, under. Game of the week. Under.
Taylor Lawan
Okay, chill. It doesn't make sense when you do that for the show.
Will Compton
Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. He's standing on business. Ten toes down right now.
Taylor Lawan
He's taking the Vikings plus six and a half. False for the standings.
Clay Matthews
False. No, false. Don't put that down. How are you going to invite me on the show and tell me what I got to pick? You did this with the Ravens and you bullied me out of my pick and I lost.
Taylor Lawan
The Ravens were dogs. Oh. Oh, no, no, no.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, it was Ravens, Vikings. I go, I think it's gonna be a close game. Give me the Ravens money line. Because it was like three and a half and you're like, nope, you gotta go with the. And the Ravens end up going by seven or eight.
Taylor Lawan
Clay, 10.
Will Compton
Yeah, so you should have stayed. You should have stayed.
Clay Matthews
Money line. I should have stayed. Ravens money line. Yep.
Will Compton
Now, hang on. How bad did they win?
Clay Matthews
They won by like seven or eight. They. They.
Will Compton
So Raven's covered.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
So you should have taken Ravens by.
Will Compton
Should have taken the Ravens.
Clay Matthews
Whatever it was. I. But I thought it was going to be close.
Taylor Lawan
Clay, by taking the Vikings plus six and a half and you taking the Packers. Listen, take the packers money line. I'm giving you six and a half more points. So if the Packers. Let's say they lose to the Vikings and they lose by three points.
Ryan Seacrest (Ad Voice)
Sure.
Clay Matthews
You're right. I would have won. I would have covered. But you're not. This is a divisional game.
Taylor Lawan
But you didn't cover this.
Clay Matthews
This is a divisional game. This is a Vikings team for us, poorly as they're playing, especially the quarterback play. They are still in close games because they've got a good team. They got a good defense in Flore. So I don't know. Is it okay to say I don't know on the show?
Taylor Lawan
Perfectly fine.
Will Compton
Because I look at these the way you would, like, say it is like, I honestly don't know how this game's gonna go. I think it's gonna be close. I got the packers winning, but I have the Vikings covering because.
Clay Matthews
No, no. But I have the packers winning. Give me the money.
Taylor Lawan
Can someone look up if Gruinard is playing?
Clay Matthews
I do like Grenad. I. I don't get like, I. Why are you guys so. Like, why can't I pick it, buddy.
Taylor Lawan
What we're telling you is I'm basically giving you more points as well. If you think the Vikings are going to Win this game. But it's close. I'm giving you also, if the Vikings end up winning this game, you're safe.
Clay Matthews
Okay, so how about this? Let me. Let me find out the hard way. If the Vikings win and they win close, I'll be like, oh, shit, I should have taken the points.
Taylor Lawan
When you start taking big favorites in money line, your odds, there's no losing.
Will Compton
The hard way in this situation. For you, the losing the hard way is just the Vikings win, okay? And you're like, all right, I lost my pound.
Clay Matthews
Hey, next show, I want. I want to come in here and you tell me why I was wrong. But if I'm right and they win, and even if the odds are more impressive, then tell me I lost out on a few. A few shekels here or there, okay?
Taylor Lawan
If the packers win this game by.
Clay Matthews
Three points, I didn't get to where I was by having people tell me to do something else. Hey, Clay, you shouldn't walk on. Maybe you should go to a junior college. Hey, Clay, maybe you should go be an auto mechanic.
Will Compton
About walk on. Yeah.
Odoo Ad Voice
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Maybe you should go to a different college.
Taylor Lawan
Listen, I'm gonna have to assume that the way you're coming at me is based off of you and Will's conversation last week. I'm telling you, if you take packers money line, you might as well take Vikings plus six and a half.
Will Compton
Taylor, you know what this is?
Taylor Lawan
It's the same thing, but your odds are better.
Will Compton
You know what this is? This is a pass rusher brain making a bet.
Taylor Lawan
You know what? Maybe Will was right. You never really wore a green dot, did you?
Will Compton
Who's taking the money line? Right here. Heavy favorite, but he's standing on business, so you got to respect it. He's got his hand in the dirt right now.
Taylor Lawan
For the standings. For the standings. For the standings. Will.
Clay Matthews
Oh, I didn't know there was an asterisk saying no money lines if it's one. Oh, so now we're going to make up rules now?
Taylor Lawan
Doug, we're talking about a touchdown favorite.
Will Compton
Can I tell you something?
Taylor Lawan
We're talking about a touchdown favorite.
Will Compton
You're right about Jordan. Luffy balled last week. Without the drop balls. Without the drop balls. The adjusted completion rate is 86%. And again, that game's a completely different ballgame against the Giants. Dobbs, he had three big drops. Three big drops. You guys, you want to throw another one in? I'm more. I'm more. I'm taking packers minus six and a half just because I believe they're going to get rolling. Like, they looked good. We just had drop balls in the process of playing against the New York Giants. So I like the packers here. I love the packers here. I love packers minus six and a half.
Clay Matthews
So what if the packers win by four?
Will Compton
Then I lose my bet. Correct. I lose the hard way of being like, I should have doubted Flores of keeping this game close. It should have been packed.
Clay Matthews
Listen, you just got to make a decision one way or the other. I feel like this might be a close game. I understand where you're coming from. You're going to spot me, you know, six. I. I get it. I get what you're saying, but I made my decision, and I'm locking it in. Okay.
Taylor Lawan
Okay.
Clay Matthews
Who you texting? Huh?
Taylor Lawan
I'm just looking at my. I'm hoping my doctor texts me and says, you're septic. You have to go to the hospital right now. So I don't deal with this conversation anymore. I'm hoping my.
Delaney Walker
I hope the game's gonna be close. How many points do you think the Packer do win by?
Clay Matthews
I could see a universe where they win by 17. I could also see where they win by three. Or one, for that matter. Let's just say the packers win. The packers win. Money line. If this is a gambling show, that's why I put all six of them together. Okay? So I give you good odds so you can.
Will Compton
You.
Clay Matthews
You consumers can be like, wow, Clay, great picks.
Taylor Lawan
When the packers win by three.
Clay Matthews
I'll still win. I'll still win.
Taylor Lawan
You'll still win. This is a gambling show. We have standings because of it. Where we're picking.
Clay Matthews
Do they tune in to just. They don't tune in to listen to our takes.
Will Compton
Are you kidding me? No, they tune into this right here. That's why I love it.
Clay Matthews
Exactly. In that game, they fade everything we say.
Delaney Walker
All right, 44 and a half.
Taylor Lawan
No, 41.
Clay Matthews
I gotta stop. Over, under, over, under, over, under.
Delaney Walker
41 and a half.
Clay Matthews
No, that. Because you're gonna get me on record, and I. I haven't. I haven't done enough research.
Taylor Lawan
Like, he's in a deposition right now. Swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Hope you got. What's your final score prediction?
Clay Matthews
Packers with the dub.
Will Compton
Packers with the dub.
Clay Matthews
Where's my cheese head?
Taylor Lawan
I think Bernard, he had the shoulder injury. I don't know if he's. There hasn't been anything. Yeah, it's. It's Tuesday when we're filming this. If Bernard plays, I like. I Like Vikings plus six and a half right here. The biggest threat to the packers success is the way the offensive line is playing right now. And when Jordan Love is under duress, he is a completely different quarterback than when he has a clean pocket. Garnard plays, you pay him $75 million to rush the passer. I'm playing against him at Houston. He's a hell of a pass rusher. If he does not play, I'll take the packers minus six and a half if he does play. I like this game. Staying close. I like the Vikings defense keeping the packers in check. Dude, say what you want about J.J. mcCarthy and he has not played well, but there's been a Just say what.
Will Compton
You want about breakdown in the trenches.
Taylor Lawan
There's been a handful. There's been a handful of throws that he's made. I'm impressed by that. He's like putting the ball exactly. Needs to be receivers breaking out of his route and the ball is already in the air. There's been a few of those. Is he ready? Is he ready to be a certain corporate efl? Probably not. But you see flashes where you're like, oh, okay, okay, I like this.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
What. What are we filling this for?
Will Compton
I just wanted to get you up close. I want to get it like you breaking down a game. Just in the wheelchair. From my angle, you're right.
Clay Matthews
Especially. Hey, especially on that last drive. Get him a ramp.
Taylor Lawan
Get him an.
Ryan Seacrest (Ad Voice)
Please.
Clay Matthews
He can't get down.
Will Compton
Whatever, dude. You going to be like buddy, old buddy and Breaking Bad, where he's just hitting a little ding in the bell.
Taylor Lawan
And we light back in. Yeah, I'll take the Vikings plus six and a half if Granard plays. If he doesn't play, I'll take the Vikings or the packers.
Will Compton
Six and a half.
Taylor Lawan
All right.
Clay Matthews
Hey, how do you think. I'm just asking a curiosity, Michigan guy, if you can remove your emotion. How do you think the Viking season moves forward from here does?
Taylor Lawan
I think it stays exactly the way it is.
Clay Matthews
Just highs and lows.
Taylor Lawan
They win a couple, they're not going to be wildly competitive this year. I think their defense keeps them in games. But if you're Kevin o', Connell, who's the quarterback whisperer, like, you got to have this kid in there and you've got to throw through these yips because he does have some boneheaded moves. There's multiple times where, you know, the rush vacates the middle. He runs through. He's right. That line of scrimmage, like, oh, you have a lot of Room right here to go. Get yourself 6, 7, 8 yards where you can get a first down. Instead, let's throw it into double coverage. Like, there's a lot of decisions. It's moving too fast for him right now. The way to fix that is continue to play, continue to work with him, get through the entire year. I think he's going to show he's going to be better as a year goes.
Will Compton
The obstacle is the way.
Taylor Lawan
The obstacle is the way.
Delaney Walker
I don't know how you guys feel about it. Delaney's minus. Packers minus six and a half.
Will Compton
Love it.
Taylor Lawan
I feel. Yeah, I like Vikings.
Clay Matthews
He's picking the Packers. The win. I love it.
Taylor Lawan
Packers, six and a half.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah. Can we just. So I know I'm not taking crazy pills and I know I'm, like, on a whole pharmacy worth of pills right now, am I?
Delaney Walker
No, you're good. We have it written down.
Taylor Lawan
Okay?
Delaney Walker
We're on the same page.
Clay Matthews
What does that mean?
Taylor Lawan
It means buddy line.
Will Compton
It means you cooked right there. We got. We got. We got.
Taylor Lawan
This guy's the worst.
Will Compton
We got Philly at Dallas. Eagles favorite in this game by three and a half. The money line, if you take the Eagles, is minus 174. The over under on this game is 47 and a half.
Ryan Seacrest (Ad Voice)
I like.
Clay Matthews
I like the under on this, boys. It was 49 and a half when I took my notes. It's now down to what, 47 and a half. Yeah, but I'm gonna stick with it because you can't move me off my picks, brother.
Will Compton
So can't move you up. Your picks go in the app. You can still move the line to minus 49 and a half and take the under.
Clay Matthews
You have to show me.
Will Compton
I'll show you. Okay, but I'm saying you can stand on your 49 and a half.
Taylor Lawan
All points.
Clay Matthews
Oh, well, I'll stop. I'm going to stand on 47 and a half.
Will Compton
Okay.
Mitch (Flag Football Champion)
Yeah.
Will Compton
Yeah. For the show. For the show.
Taylor Lawan
For the show.
Clay Matthews
Because it's a gambling show.
Taylor Lawan
For the show. I'm gonna do all points. I'm gonna take the under at 64 and a half. Make sure that reflects my record, please.
Clay Matthews
I think I hurt my feelings, brother. When I come out next week and I hit this and I hit this parlay.
Taylor Lawan
Shut up, dude.
Will Compton
What you did, like, that's kind of.
Taylor Lawan
Shut up.
Will Compton
Will a 100 under?
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, I'll do under 100.
Clay Matthews
Okay. Your odds are gonna suck.
Taylor Lawan
Bet your hits don't matter. I'll polo seven of them. Go ahead, Clay. So you're taking the under 47 and a half.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I like it.
Taylor Lawan
Why is that? Cowboys average 42 and 42 points at home.
Clay Matthews
What about the Eagles defense?
Will Compton
He loves the Eagles defense.
Clay Matthews
I do.
Will Compton
I love the Eagles defense. The average off our Eagles offense is average.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, they're below average.
Clay Matthews
They're horrible right now. They have no pass game. I mean A.J. brown, his little thinly veiled, you know, comments. He didn't even, he doesn't even hide him anymore. He, he doesn't care anymore. Their run game because of injuries. Saquon has not been what he was last year. He's still a stud. Lane Johnson, Liz Frank. Is that what I'm hearing? I don't know if he's going to play. Surgery.
Taylor Lawan
That sucks.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
Six weeks.
Clay Matthews
Okay. So I. And they're a very, as you talked about early, very risk adverse offense. I think they're going to want to keep this game close. I think they're going to rely heavily on their defense. I think the defense needs to keep me in this game with how well Dallas has been playing well, as well as they played this past week. Even if it was the Raiders. But I, I like the under on this one. I just don't think the Eagles are going to put it out there that much to score many points. And I think their defense is going to limit the Cowboys and that's despite the Cowboys coming off arguably their best game of the season. It was fun to watch. George Pickens going to be first or second team all pro. CD Lamb continues to do what he does. Does what he do. Javonte Williams rushes for like 100 and Quinn and Williams, you, you team him up with Kenny Clark in the middle. Their defense looked like I said, I know it's the Raiders.
Taylor Lawan
The Raiders.
Clay Matthews
The Raiders. I understand. But they looked good. They were having fun. They're going to have some confidence. They are playing at home. But it is a short week. It's a divisional game. I think it's going to be closer. I think it'll be close. Just like the week one.
Will Compton
Big game too.
Clay Matthews
24:20. That was the under. I know. It's a different game. I like the under here. I can see it going either way, though.
Taylor Lawan
If you were to pick a team, who would you pick? This is not going to reflect your record.
Clay Matthews
I pick the Eagles.
Taylor Lawan
You pick the Eagles. You would pick the Eagles money line.
Will Compton
He got the Eagles winning.
Clay Matthews
I would. I pick. Yeah, I picked the Eagles money line. But the thing is. Nope.
Will Compton
Yeah, he's taking the under 47 and a half.
Clay Matthews
There you go.
Will Compton
Hey, how about George Pickens? That incomplete. That incomplete pass they caught in the end zone?
Clay Matthews
Oh, the one. Yeah.
Will Compton
He's real, bro.
Delaney Walker
He doesn't ever look like he's trying, bro.
Will Compton
For real. I like the Cowboys. I like the Cowboys here.
Clay Matthews
Has anything come out on why the wide receiver 1 and 2 were sitting on the bench at the beginning this meeting? Lack of effort, Maybe just Red Rock.
Taylor Lawan
They watched Tunnel of Chaos so many times on YouTube.
Will Compton
Just boys being boys, man.
Delaney Walker
In Vegas.
Will Compton
Yeah, they were out in Vegas.
Taylor Lawan
And that's like Schottenheimer. He's like, hey, you're not gonna play the first series. The first quarter. He's. He's setting the tone culturally. Hey, we're not gonna allow this when we're in Vegas. But he's got to be smiling to himself when he sees them both go off.
Clay Matthews
Oh, we gave him a big hug at the end of the day.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Will Compton
Very hug. You know, that'll be a tale that's told when they're retired. Yeah, yeah. Like Vegas. We went to Vegas. We went hard. As hard as. Went off.
Taylor Lawan
Went off.
Will Compton
Yeah, I like the Cowboys.
Delaney Walker
Here will is 1 and 7 picking against the Eagles.
Will Compton
Yeah. Note for all the viewers, I'm 1 and 7 picking against the Cowboys. I love the Cowboys. I love the Cowboys.
Clay Matthews
Is there a button this.
Will Compton
No, there's no. But there's no. I would say because there is no wind in Dallas's stadium. Like, that was a windy game. Lions would have blown out the Eagles last week had there been no wins. And you talk about Dallas's defense with Williams and Kenny Clark, even the second level, like, bringing in Logan Wilson. I'm not saying Logan Wilson is this massive lift for that defense, but they got overshone back, which he's been injured for a while. They have, like, this four linebacker rotation going on. You could tell that Logan Wilson's there. It's probably going to be his job, but they brought him in to battle out or have. Have Kenneth Murray compete to keep his starting job. Mike, like, every series, they rotated. Logan Wilson would start off the first two series, then Murray took the next two series, Then they were going one for one every series. And to me, I could see on film the way it's elevated their play as far as communication across the board. Like these boys now communicate. And you got Malik Hooker back. And the other safety, number six, who returned from injury after being out for a month. You just see all the communication going on. You can tell that there's a. A competition happening in the linebacker Room with the Logan Wilson trade and overshone coming back and just the additions with Williams and Kenny Clark again being able to disrupt the pocket from the inside out. I like Dallas here. I'm going to ride the wave with them having a massive win against the Raiders and looking good doing it. Yes, it was the Raiders, but I'm buying in on Dallas right now.
Taylor Lawan
Doctor texted me blood work was abnormal. Listen, Eagles, I've ran into the issue of the Cowboys. I've fallen in love. It's a whole spiel.
Clay Matthews
Did he just leave it at abnormal? Like, no follow?
Taylor Lawan
No, no, he gave a whole thing. But that's not what the show's about.
Clay Matthews
It's about your clarity.
Taylor Lawan
They're not saying, hey, we know there's an infection. Like, hey, there's a couple things that we saw that were spiked up we need to go look at. So maybe come in and we'll check it out. All good. I appreciate your love and concern. I think so.
Will Compton
Hey, is it actually good?
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
What's it? I. I'm not concerned about my health. I'm not. I did not think it's the reaction again. I love the fact you guys care about me.
Clay Matthews
If a doctor calls me, you have abnormal blood work and there's a couple.
Will Compton
Levels that are high that we need to go look at. Like, yeah, of course.
Clay Matthews
This is what happened to Alex Singleton. You got testicular cancer, I hope.
Taylor Lawan
Now I'm worried. I do.
Clay Matthews
Is that what was high?
Taylor Lawan
No, my. Text him back, do I have testicular cancer?
Clay Matthews
I hope not.
Taylor Lawan
Listen, let's finish the show, right? We'll be all right.
Clay Matthews
We'll talk after.
Taylor Lawan
We'll talk after. The viewers, the viewer, I know they'll be fine. Guys, I'm gonna be all right. I do think I'm gonna. If I was truly concerned about my actual well being, I would roll my ass out of here. I would be like, derek, we gotta go.
Will Compton
But at the same time, I'd respect you trying to get your final picks out.
Clay Matthews
Listen, I'm sorry.
Will Compton
We don't want to make a light of this. We're guys. We don't know what to do.
Taylor Lawan
Right?
Clay Matthews
We're uncomfortable.
Taylor Lawan
We laugh. I thought we were gonna laugh about it. And yeah, there's there' for some concern. But it's going to be all right.
Clay Matthews
At the end of the day, we'll have an edit after this when you come back healthy and then we'll laugh.
Taylor Lawan
You guys can make fun and that'll be great. I've fallen into the cowboy situation before where you fall in love. You're like, this is this team. If their defense can just be average, they're contenders. Look how well the offensive plays. Then they go to the Denver Broncos. They haven't won there since 1996. I'm like, this is it. This is when we get done. The Broncos absolutely donkey stuff. I love how CD Lamb and George Pickens have really found themselves in wide receiver 1a, 1b. And they're playing very well and they are a much different team at home than they are away. But the acquisition of Phillips, Jalen Carter, is that the. Is that he was the individual that spit on allegedly at week one Thursday Night Football Allegedly spit on him. Allegedly. Dak spit first. That's neither here nor there. I. With those two defensive players playing in this game game, the pressure that they're going to get on the Cowboys, there's not going to be a run game to be had. I like the Eagles in this game. I like them minus three and a half. I think the Eagles defense too. Was it even a Dory Jackson? He played well last week.
Will Compton
Yeah, he did.
Clay Matthews
Nicobe Dean next to Vaughn in the middle.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
So I like flying sideline to sideline.
Will Compton
They have an awesome defense.
Clay Matthews
Mitchell. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Delaney Eagles minus three and a half.
Clay Matthews
Y' all want to jump on the under 47 and a half.
Will Compton
I got the Cowboys.
Taylor Lawan
No, I'll stay there. I mean, Delaney UC gets a couple wins a week.
Will Compton
Sunday Night Football Bucks go out to LA to play the Rams. Rams favorite in this game, minus six and a half. The over under on this game, 49 and a half.
Clay Matthews
How about that Bucks Bills game last week? That was electric.
Taylor Lawan
It was electric. I really like the Bucs plus six and a half. I think that. I think Matthew Stafford. Those two wide receivers have been incredible. Their run game's been really good too. At 11 personnel and 13 personnel.
Clay Matthews
They've been.
Taylor Lawan
They've been really effective and their defense has played extremely well. They had four interceptions last week. But something about the Bucks, man, they're starting to get to that back against the wall, fight or flight type of mentality. They really, I mean, they fought their ass up against the Bills. Josh Allen had himself an MVP type of day. I see them turning it around here. I see the Rams money line winning this game. But I also like to think that the Bucs keep it a little closer than people think. So I'll be going with the Bucs and Baker Mayfield in this game.
Will Compton
I agree with you too. Like Bucs schedule this year. They've had to play at Seattle Travel out to Seattle, at Detroit, travel up to Buffalo, out to la. I like the Bucks here. They don't got to worry about Josh Allen. They're going to be able to score points. Rams defensively, great defense, awesome defensive line. And I just when I'm scanning through all the quarterbacks that they play with. C.J. stroud, Cam Ward, Jalen Hurts, Mack Jones, Ravens backup Trevor Lawrence out in London, the Saints and then Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold threw four picks. Seattle was still in position to win that game with a game winning field goal. I like the Bucs here again, back against the wall, fight or flight mentality. And Baker Mayfield going out there, potentially getting a win, but definitely taking the plus six and a half.
Clay Matthews
I like, I'm a fan of the Bucs. I love Baker Mayfield, what he's been able to do despite all the injuries and especially on his feet. He makes it fun. He makes the Buccaneers fun to watch. But I feel like the Rams are just playing at a level right now that is just too surgical. Matthew Stafford, in the last seven games now, 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions. I believe zero sacks, zero interceptions. Devonte only had one reception, was for a touchdown. Puka's doing his thing. Kyren Williams went off. I just feel like they're playing at 11, especially on defense with those four interceptions where it's going to be hard. They're in LA, it's going to be hard for them to keep up with that. I think the Bucks are going to score points here, but I think the Rams win this game by how?
Taylor Lawan
Lunch.
Will Compton
Yeah. So what are you taking here?
Clay Matthews
Do it. Give me the money line. Give me the Rams money line.
Taylor Lawan
Hell yeah. What do you think the score will be?
Clay Matthews
I could see it being close, but I could also see them winning by 20. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Will Compton
That's a good point.
Clay Matthews
Hey, just a fan of ball over here. Like, I just want to see like Baker just slang it. I want to see Stafford do his thing, take the points.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Over and so. But I also see the Rams have a really good defense and you know the Bucks, they held James Cook in check so they can.
Taylor Lawan
I think the Bucks have a better defense than people make them out to be.
Clay Matthews
They do.
Will Compton
And again they're not worrying about Josh Allen. Like Stafford's a monster, but again just the ability on the ground.
Taylor Lawan
I think he's a little more loose than people give him credit for, but.
Will Compton
I don't think he's above. I don't think he's net positive in his.
Clay Matthews
In his yards Take any sacks last week?
Taylor Lawan
Yeah. To me, it's all about extending place for him. Like he's a play behind a lot of scrimmage guy, you know, you haven't seen him.
Will Compton
May slip out a one and get it out.
Taylor Lawan
2016, when he's with the Lions against the Titans and he trucked a couple.
Delaney Walker
Of boys, Delaney is Rams minus six and a half.
Taylor Lawan
So you and Delaney are the same.
Clay Matthews
We're picking the Rams to win. That's right.
Will Compton
They're picking the Rams to win.
Taylor Lawan
I hope. You know what? Give me the Vikings plus six and a half regardless of if Gurnard plays. And I hope the Vikings win and the Bucs win so you can just learn this lesson the hard way.
Will Compton
I thought she was really about to do something right there.
Taylor Lawan
No.
Will Compton
Give me the Vikings plus six and a half.
Taylor Lawan
No. That's ego. Win the battle. And if Ryan Holiday's taught me anything, ego's the enemy.
Will Compton
But if Vikings lose by four, you're both going to win. All right. Monday Night Football panthers at the 49ers. 49ers favored by seven. The over under on this game is 48 and a half.
Taylor Lawan
Where the 49ers struggle from a defense standpoint is with elite quarterback play. From a passing standpoint, they don't really necessarily have to worry about the Panthers, but they worry about a stopping dowdle on the run game. They do a great job running between the tackles and mixing it up in the perimeter. Brock Purdy coming back last week. He looked amazing. I'm going to take the 49ers -7 here. I know it's a big line. Carolina is traveling across the country. They are a hit and miss type of team, but they've, you know, I'm very impressed and I think everybody who's a Carolina Panthers fan should be very optimistic about their future and where they're at. That being said, I think the 49ers are getting healthier and healthier and they're getting better as the season's going. I like the 49ers here. Minus 7.
Will Compton
I don't know where I'm going.
Taylor Lawan
I hate that the game's -7.
Clay Matthews
49Ers money line, bro. As much as I was. Yeah, I'm parlaying all six together. It gives me good odds. Just a just like next level moves asterisk.
Taylor Lawan
Falling asleep.
Will Compton
Next level move.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, like, you guys are like stalking. Like, I need you to lose your. Like, FanDuel needs you to lose your money. And I'm over here.
Will Compton
No, I Do parlay.
Clay Matthews
I'm trying to spit out winning parlays.
Will Compton
All weekend long, but I'm just trying to get show. You pick, you know, the best game. Six games.
Taylor Lawan
We don't pick every single game here. We're talking about the show. And then you go and you put out your picks on the Internet.
Clay Matthews
But you see right here, like on your card, your card, it has the spread, the money line, and the over, under. So if you didn't want me to pick that, why would you put it on for the last 12 weeks?
Will Compton
That's a great question for Jared.
Taylor Lawan
Okay, we'll change that next week.
Clay Matthews
Please don't change them. Well, when I hit on all three of these money lines, you'll be like, damn, Clay was on to something.
Taylor Lawan
Who's that, Charles? That Charl.
Will Compton
What's up, sweetheart? What do you got?
Clay Matthews
Just one drink.
Will Compton
Latte. This a. This a midday latte.
Taylor Lawan
You've been.
Will Compton
You've been coming in here with my entire team in this building and one latte out. Hey, thank you, sweetheart.
Delaney Walker
Yep.
Taylor Lawan
All right, Charl, go ahead and bring the latte to Will.
Will Compton
T's in a wheelchair. T's in a wheelchair. Would have loved to have seen some flowers in a balloon that says, get well soon.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, no doubt. I'm not going to bring a latte. If anything, I'd like to just see a latte you can have.
Clay Matthews
Maybe. That is for you, Charlie.
Taylor Lawan
You're not going to bring it. You're not going to bring it to Will?
Will Compton
She's under pressure right now.
Taylor Lawan
Looks good. Hey, it looks. Charl. Looks really good.
Will Compton
Give me the kiss you would have given me, man.
Taylor Lawan
Sherman about it.
Will Compton
He did. He thought Will be pissed.
Taylor Lawan
Come on. Hey, Joe, do you think Charlie would have kissed him in the cheek? You think Charl would have kissed him on the cheek?
Clay Matthews
Thank you.
Taylor Lawan
Have a great day. Coffee looks delicious.
Clay Matthews
Thanks.
Taylor Lawan
I might not be here, unfortunately.
Will Compton
Let's not joke.
Clay Matthews
Don't say that. Don't say that.
Taylor Lawan
You know what? You know what? I do hope.
Will Compton
Take a drink of this just in case.
Taylor Lawan
No, no, no.
Will Compton
Got a nice little sweet.
Taylor Lawan
You don't want this infection, brother.
Clay Matthews
I don't know if it's Maybe it's just. Maybe it's just high white blood stuff cells or something. Just like. Just a little.
Taylor Lawan
Isn't that bad?
Clay Matthews
No, because that could mean you have just like a. You know. Yeah, exactly.
Mitch (Flag Football Champion)
A virus.
Clay Matthews
There is a dark.
Taylor Lawan
There's the dark humor part of me that thinks to myself, like, if I. This, let's say the worst case and I do die. Charo Rainey. She's at my funeral. You're weeping, and everyone's going through, like, what's the last thing you said to him? And she's like, I wish I just got him that call.
Will Compton
Her last thing was, sorry, Taylor.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, yeah.
Will Compton
And we have this clip to live forever.
Taylor Lawan
If. If I die in the next seven days, you guys do this show.
Clay Matthews
Just keep it going.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, but. But I don't want you to be like, oh, we lost Taylor. We're sad. Like, just do it as if I was.
Clay Matthews
I'm just like, can we bring in funny stuff? Like, I'll probably bring in one of my Halloween gravestones.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, yeah, but don't. But, like, just pretend like I never actually died.
Will Compton
We'll have to leave just an empty wheelchair up here.
Taylor Lawan
Taylor's out of town this week.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
Coming back. He's at a farm right now.
Mitch (Flag Football Champion)
Accident.
Clay Matthews
Get leather passenger.
Will Compton
Get him stuffed like a bear.
Clay Matthews
You seen Osmosis Jones?
Delaney Walker
Nobody heard Clay say, rest in pieces, bro.
Taylor Lawan
Underrated movie.
Clay Matthews
So good.
Will Compton
Bill Murray.
Taylor Lawan
Yes, bro.
Clay Matthews
Who is the. Who is the chick from snl? Molly Shannon. Pops on her lip or something.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, but they're in the school, right?
Clay Matthews
They're in the school. Yeah.
Will Compton
They're in the school.
Taylor Lawan
They're in the school. Yeah, but he.
Clay Matthews
He almost doesn't come through, but then they. He took antibiotics.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Went inside Heale tomorrow.
Taylor Lawan
He's about to die, bro.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, he had a. What virus was that? Did they ever.
Taylor Lawan
I don't know if they ever really said, have you seen that? Osmosis Jones?
Clay Matthews
No cartoon. Oh, you need to watch with your kids.
Will Compton
The virus show I'm thinking of right now is. It's.
Clay Matthews
Oh, yeah. That virus is kind of mean.
Will Compton
Platypus Pluribus.
Taylor Lawan
Hey, I finished Mobland, by the way. Season one of Mobland.
Clay Matthews
Oh, yeah.
Taylor Lawan
I'd like to break it down with you a little bit. I like to break it down a little bit after the show.
Clay Matthews
Panthers 49ers.
Taylor Lawan
Hey.
Clay Matthews
Hey. I will say this about Bryce Young. He didn't look like himself most of the time. You say that when somebody sucks, but this guy looked incredible out there. He hit every throw, threw for damn near 500 yards. Every arm angle was moving in the pocket. I was really impressed with him. Like you had mentioned earlier, Rico Dowdle has just really come on. Going to earn himself a payday, hopefully this offseason. McMillan's playing incredibly well. Leggette had some big catches. What is their record right now? I mean, they're obviously playing.
Will Compton
Are they six and four.
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Delaney Walker
I mean, they're playing better record than.
Will Compton
The Chiefs for the better record than the Chiefs.
Clay Matthews
That's wild. They're playing incredibly well. But I know on last episode show I'm like, hey, you kind of got a roll with Mac Jones with how well he's playing. But I mean, it's a good. I'm not in the locker room, I don't talk with Kiddo and McCaffrey, you know what I'm saying? Because I thought that was pretty telling when they got up at the mic and spent. Spent a few minutes talking about his leadership, how to come off seven games of not playing and command the offense, make those throws like that one to Kittle, like, I think that's pretty telling. And that's also telling in the organization when some of us give Brock a hard time, you know, when they give him that contract, you know, give him a hard time when Mack was coming in and he maybe hasn't lived up to expectations quite yet, but he looks incredible there. I think the 49ers are getting healthy, at least on offense, and if Salah can continue to do enough on defense, I think they got a real chance to make that wild card seed in the NFC.
Will Compton
I'll take Panthers plus seven.
Taylor Lawan
Panthers plus seven. 49ers money line. 49ers minus seven. Watch the Niners win by six.
Delaney Walker
Dude, Delaney is taking 49ers minus seven.
Will Compton
Nice.
Clay Matthews
He can't bet against the Niners.
Taylor Lawan
No. Yeah. Delaney had that same conversation we had with him two years ago.
Clay Matthews
Did he. So what. What ended up happening? You guys just bullied him to where he can't do money lines anymore.
Taylor Lawan
This is like, hey, this is how we do the show. It's not bullying.
Will Compton
He's talking about, I get my people units and we're like, you're not getting them. You're not like winning them any 500. Honestly, tailing Delaney are these massive favorites money lines outside of a parlay. Like, say they just pick one game and they're doing a money line. So it's minus what, minus 300.
Clay Matthews
So I.
Will Compton
And you bet $10 you're only going to win three. Like you're, you're trying to like earn your bet back that you put in the sports book.
Clay Matthews
I recognize all that and that's why I parlayed all six together. So does that make it okay for this week? Can I do that, boys?
Taylor Lawan
So if your parlay loses, then you're owing.
Will Compton
That's true.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm doing great. Mrs. Well, then you guys got to parlay your six. We don't gotta do.
Taylor Lawan
We're picking the lot.
Clay Matthews
We're picking. I don't have to do. Are you trying to bully them, Clay?
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Taylor Lawan
Trying to bully us?
Clay Matthews
Just wondering.
Will Compton
So if you parlay him.
Taylor Lawan
Five and a half. Sex is a first round.
Will Compton
One leg misses, you lose the parlay. Talk to him, Demon. That boy. Hey.
Delaney Walker
So you're either. You're either six zero or always.
Taylor Lawan
Six and zero or always.
Clay Matthews
All my picks are gonna hit. Of course it would go 60 because I hit all six picks.
Taylor Lawan
Tell him, Mitch. So we'll go off your parlay.
Clay Matthews
I'm feeling Clay.
Delaney Walker
If you want that to be the case, your record up there will be 0. 6 or 6 0.
Clay Matthews
Oh, I didn't know you were running the show over here.
Delaney Walker
I'm back here on the sticks, aren't I?
Taylor Lawan
Don't be bullying Clay. Don't be bullying our guys.
Clay Matthews
I do feel attacked.
Taylor Lawan
Don't be bullying our guys. Our boys right now.
Will Compton
I don't.
Clay Matthews
Hey, I don't even care about the records anymore, okay?
Odoo Ad Voice
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Taylor Lawan
You obviously do.
Clay Matthews
I'm my principal now. Spell that for me. Which principal? How do you spell that?
Taylor Lawan
Principal.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. P. Is it P A L or P L, E? Because I was first team, all academic.
Will Compton
You had to wait to see if he could even spell one of them.
Clay Matthews
Oh, wow. You know what? Spell Principle.
Taylor Lawan
Pr.
Will Compton
Spell Principle.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, the handicap. Kid, you're literally coming. You're a bully, dude. You're a bully. You know what, dude? I'm not.
Delaney Walker
Spell it.
Clay Matthews
Is it prince of pal.
Will Compton
From the beginning, spell it.
Taylor Lawan
Shut up. Let me do it. Prince. P, r, I, n, c, e, R, I, P, R, I, N, C. Prince.
Clay Matthews
No, I had to get my pal vers.
Taylor Lawan
P, L, E, A, A P, E, L. Weighing on.
Will Compton
What was your last four there?
Taylor Lawan
A P, E, L. Principle.
Clay Matthews
Principle.
Will Compton
Oh, buddy, that was way off. That was way off.
Taylor Lawan
Really?
Will Compton
Even when he gave you the multiple choice on two songs?
Taylor Lawan
Well, he started saying letters and shit. I'm like. How many vowels are we gonna say? I'm over here high, and y' all gonna do this to me right now?
Clay Matthews
Here's a good way to think about this. And hopefully I'm correct. Principal. If it ends in P, A, A, P, A, L. Your pal is like a principal in the office.
Will Compton
Like principal, principal of the school.
Clay Matthews
Like pal. He's your pal. He's like your friend. Principle. P, L, E is like. Like what you believe in, what you stand on. So I'm standing on this Principle.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but you still gotta spell it.
Clay Matthews
Ple.
Taylor Lawan
I'm not having fun right now, okay? I'm already in pain.
Clay Matthews
I'm sorry.
Taylor Lawan
So you're. All your picks are parlayed. If you missed one, you're 0 and 6.
Clay Matthews
If you die. Yeah, how are you gonna know that I hit on all these.
Taylor Lawan
Oh, buddy, I'll haunt your ass. You think I'm not gonna come down and fuck around with the boys a little bit?
Clay Matthews
But if I. Damn.
Taylor Lawan
If I die, I'll be around. I'll be around. Come hang out a bit.
Clay Matthews
That'd be sick.
Taylor Lawan
That would be dope, huh? You would be the flicker, the lights and stuff.
Delaney Walker
You'd be the most fun ghost.
Taylor Lawan
Mitch, you told me a vegetable earlier this week. And you may come back.
Clay Matthews
Mfg. Most fun ghost.
Taylor Lawan
Most fun ghost.
Will Compton
Dude.
Clay Matthews
Hey, what's the most fun game of the week, though?
Taylor Lawan
Are you talking about the True Classic game of the week?
Clay Matthews
True Classic.
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Let's get to the game of the week.
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Colts out at Arrowhead facing the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs are favored by three and a half here over under on this game.
Taylor Lawan
49 and a half Colts on a buy last week.
Clay Matthews
Give me the under.
Taylor Lawan
Clay literally has a an exact like you have an exact parallel of like Delaney. The first year we did the show with him, he was probably the best.
Clay Matthews
And he still is the best.
Will Compton
He gets units. That's units.
Taylor Lawan
Delaney just had a different way of going about it, but you guys have still ended on the same thing. Like we're towards the end of the year. It's not going your way necessarily in the record category. You're like fuck it dude, I don't need to explain myself. Under. Yeah, so you got the under Delaney.
Delaney Walker
I did finish with the best record.
Clay Matthews
The first year we did this so.
Taylor Lawan
Well you started taking money lines.
Clay Matthews
Well, what's wrong with that? Do we want, do we want winners on this show or do we want losers?
Will Compton
But oh, we were close.
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Clay Matthews
What do we got a comedy club here? Everybody in the back needs to be fined a little bit, okay. For chirping a little too much.
Taylor Lawan
I'll tell you what, what if there's anybody out of line here, You've been out of line today.
Will Compton
Oh, here, here's. Here's what I would like to propose you.
Taylor Lawan
By the way. You did this.
Will Compton
How did I do this?
Taylor Lawan
How did he do the fire? Like he started. You're like, I love it. This is what we love with the show.
Will Compton
Cuz he started staying on business cooking right now.
Taylor Lawan
And when I see, when I see.
Will Compton
Passion like that, I got to help him out. I also said at the same time, it's pass rusher brain. It's kind of a different. You gotta. Here's my proposal, bro.
Clay Matthews
I'm middle linebacker brain.
Will Compton
You ain't no middle linebacker.
Clay Matthews
What are you talking about?
Will Compton
Here's my proposal.
Taylor Lawan
A linebacker bring.
Will Compton
You have. Did you pick.
Clay Matthews
Can we do this?
Will Compton
Did you pick any games?
Clay Matthews
Can we do this? I will, I will entertain what you guys are saying. And let's, let's just have two categories. Doing the. Doing the. The spread and doing the money line and let's just see which one comes out on top and then we can go through each one. You can tell me, well, my. What's better or not.
Will Compton
I feel you. Well, my proposal is going to be is the money line games that you took with the favorites. Those get parlayed but if you drop a leg that entire parlay, those are all losses because you did pick a couple unders. I'm not saying you have to go six leg parlay. They all have to hit.
Clay Matthews
You're talking about the money lines that I pick.
Will Compton
But the ones where you picture it up were. I think it was just totals, right? Or did you take one that was.
Clay Matthews
I think I did three.
Will Compton
Oh, Bears minus two and a half.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
So Bears minus two and a half and then your two over under games, those are all be separate picks. But your three money lines are favorite picks. Those have to be parlayed. So if you lose one, you go 0.
Mitch (Flag Football Champion)
3.
Will Compton
If you obviously win, it's already 3.
Taylor Lawan
I don't like it. I wish you Would have.
Will Compton
That's my proposal to you.
Taylor Lawan
He needs to go six, zero or zero and six.
Delaney Walker
He has.
Will Compton
He picked three games that were. He picked three games that were. He can go six lines with three.
Delaney Walker
And three or oh, and six.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, that's fine if that makes you guys happy. I don't know why you guys are so.
Taylor Lawan
He gets to take his largely favorited money line lines and have those three picks, and if those.
Will Compton
But it's a parlay. Those odds will be plus odds. Those will be plus odds. And you. You don't. You don't have to. If anything else, like, you don't have. You can say it's got to be whatever you think. I'm just saying, like, that's. That's what I would propose to Clay. So if he hits like, and you're out here talking, I would back you up.
Clay Matthews
Do we feel good about that? You don't?
Taylor Lawan
No.
Clay Matthews
Well, what do you. What do you want for me?
Taylor Lawan
Prefer me to pick the lines? I would love to pick the line lines.
Clay Matthews
I knew I liked you more.
Taylor Lawan
See, here you go again. This is why you're turning him into a monster. You're turning him into a monster.
Will Compton
This is the Clay.
Taylor Lawan
This is the moment. This is just like, oh, yeah, this is the Clay we love right now. Three, four weeks from now, we're going to be like, why the is Clay like this?
Will Compton
I'm going to look back on this.
Taylor Lawan
And I'm going to be like, bro, this is cuz of you.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
And you've already seen him getting a little ornery. He's getting a little wild. I can't believe Charlie didn't bring me a latte. She knows I work here.
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Taylor Lawan
She knows I work here.
Clay Matthews
Here. What do you get, though? You get whole milk or you get some, like.
Will Compton
No, I get whole milk.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, but whole milk.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
All right, good.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Come on, now.
Taylor Lawan
Whole milk is bad for gout.
Clay Matthews
You gotta lay. I don't think milk.
Taylor Lawan
I like the Colts coming off a buy here.
Will Compton
He's on a. You know what diet he's on right now.
Clay Matthews
What's that?
Will Compton
Tell him, Taylor.
Taylor Lawan
Bro, why you got. See, this is the problem, man. You gotta be my boy and like.
Will Compton
Hey, I'm your boy.
Clay Matthews
You want a vegan diet.
Taylor Lawan
Listen, Listen.
Will Compton
To the end of the earth, truthfully. But busting balls truthfully, when there have.
Taylor Lawan
Been times to have my back, you really don't.
Will Compton
What about right there?
Taylor Lawan
Relatively, consistently. Relatively consistently root against my team?
Will Compton
When did I root against you?
Taylor Lawan
You laugh at me when I'm laying on the couch.
Will Compton
But that's. That's what, that's what the. But that's what the boys. You come in, you see the guy, he's got his leg up.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
Doctor called too.
Clay Matthews
Did he call him on the show?
Taylor Lawan
No.
Clay Matthews
Do it. Hey, this is live tv.
Taylor Lawan
I'm going to take the Colts here. I like them coming off of the bye. I'm going to take them plus three and a half. I know they're at Kansas City. Kansas City is in a situation now where they have to win. If they do not win this game, they are done. Like they're out of the playoff hunt. But something about the Colts man, Daniel Jones, we've talked about Daniel Jones and how he's in this world of like, is he really a great quarterback or is he just in a situation where he's having a good year and then with the rushing attack that they're able to have. I like the Colts a lot in this situation. I'm gonna take the Colts plus three and a half.
Will Compton
I'm with you. This is Colts money line. For me though, this is nail in the coffin. Chiefs are done after this week. It's gonna be because of Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor.
Clay Matthews
I agree with you on the Chiefs in regard to. This is not the same old Chiefs. I think I've lost every time I've picked them this year. They have all the speed, they've gotten all their tools back, but their team has not corrected itself. Mahomes missing some throws. There's no run game. Pacheco's hurt now. Kelsey looked really good last week, but they're just not the same. I think they have to sustain drives. This is where I'm getting at with my, with my under. The Colts I think are phenomenal, but I can see either team winning. If you're saying, hey, the Chiefs going back to Arrowhead backs up against the wall. If they're thinking about making that seven seed Colts coming off a buy, I think it, you know, you could just, just flip a coin here. I'm not even sure what these odds are, but I had to look down. I just think they're going to rely on drives rather than quick scoring. I think this is going to be an under game. I'm not sure who's going to win.
Will Compton
And to you, to your point with Travis Kelce, it's like when you look at the way the Broncos beat them, they're challenging them to run the football because they can't run the football very well. And they did a good Job of taking away Rasheed Rice. Like, you got sauce Garrett. Like, it's going to open up a little bit for Travis Kelsey and everything else. But if you just challenge a team to run the football and take away their best weapon in Rasheed Rice, like the formula is kind of out there to beat the Chiefs, especially, you got the offense. Like the Colts offense is way better than. Is operating way better than Broncos offense right now.
Clay Matthews
I think they're just. Yeah, I mean, I agree with all that, but I think they're just struggling. They have no run game. They're just relying on Mahomes to just air it out there with all these four two guys. But the reality is it's like, all right, there's no. No threat inside. Like, we're just going to take away what you do best and force you to be one dimensional and they just cannot score enough points.
Will Compton
Yeah. Yeah, agreed. Colts money line. Colts plus two and a half.
Clay Matthews
Taken under 49 and a half plus.
Will Compton
Three and a half under. You're under.
Delaney Walker
The one you're taking is Colts plus three and a half.
Will Compton
What is Delaney got?
Delaney Walker
Delaney has the Colts plus three and a half.
Will Compton
Good pick, Delaney. Good pick.
Taylor Lawan
It's a good strong put. Bet the boys parlay Jackson, Smith and Jigba against the Titans. Guys, you guys having a record year. I hate that it's against my old team, but that's what the show is, man. Trying to win people money. And I think I feel good about that one.
Clay Matthews
I think we. We all know with certainty who Delaney's going with.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah. Jonathan Taylor. Okay.
Will Compton
JSN Jonathan Taylor. I'm going to go. CMC Christian McCaffrey, bring him back. Christian McCaffrey, bring him BACK.
Clay Matthews
Give me Kyron Williams. Five touchdowns in the last five games. He's rolling right now. Even though the Bucks have a good run defense, I see him picking up another one.
Will Compton
Yeah, this is a good parlay right here.
Taylor Lawan
From the three he gets one in. Yeah, I like that.
Will Compton
This is a good parlay right here.
Taylor Lawan
I like this one.
Will Compton
Yeah, I feel good about this one a lot.
Taylor Lawan
Final bite segment.
Will Compton
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Clay Matthews
The Crispy Chicken.
Will Compton
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Taylor Lawan
About the final bite. We're going to give a bold prediction, a hot take storyline flying under the radar. And this is gonna give fans one thing to keep in mind before finishing their week and tuning into kickoff. Will, what's your final bite by McDonald's?
Will Compton
I would say my final bite as you're dipping those McCrispy strips in the Buffalo zesty sauce.
Taylor Lawan
Dipping in denim.
Will Compton
Dipping in denim. If you're in Kansas City Chiefs kingdom, that fan base needs to start thinking about what life looks like. Not in the playoffs. Cause I think the Colts win and I think the playoff hopes for the Kansas City chief continue to dwindle to where they will not be there in the postseason.
Clay Matthews
It's my turn.
Taylor Lawan
You can go if you want.
Clay Matthews
Okay. Yeah. My final bite is that the USC Trojans upset the Oregon Ducks at Austin Stadium. They finish with a big win over the UCLA Bruins and represent Southern California in the College Football Playoff. And we'll figure it out from there.
Taylor Lawan
Yeah, but we'll get there.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, let's just get to Oregon.
Taylor Lawan
Right? There's different categories of. They already make the playoffs.
Will Compton
It's a big game this weekend.
Taylor Lawan
Massive.
Will Compton
Both teams got to have it.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
Hey, I took USC plus nine and a half.
Clay Matthews
You didn't take the money line, though.
Taylor Lawan
No, I think Oregon's going to win that game.
Clay Matthews
Am I supposed to be like.
Taylor Lawan
No, I'm saying I took USC plus nine and a half, so I'm almost with you.
Will Compton
Yeah, he's riding with you because he's got USC plus nine and a half.
Clay Matthews
No, I understand. But like he's still picking him to lose, so how could he be riding.
Taylor Lawan
With you if USC wins this game, we win.
Clay Matthews
You should pick the SC money line. Line.
Will Compton
He could have easily went. He could have easily went Oregon money line, which covers the basis of SC plus nine and a half. But he's like, I believe in sc. Yeah, they can win this game, but I'm also going to take.
Clay Matthews
I believe they will not buy a lot. Like, they're still losers.
Will Compton
But he sees the game. He sees Oregon winning. He sees USC covering.
Clay Matthews
Okay. Not sure how you're supposed to feel about that, but I thanked. Okay.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
Fun show.
Delaney Walker
Delaney's final bite. Delaney's final bite is that I go back to back Mitch goes back to back in flight championship tonight.
Taylor Lawan
Oh, that was my final bite.
Will Compton
Oh, my fault. Yeah. Yeah.
Taylor Lawan
My final bite is Mitch goes back to back in his flag football championship.
Mitch (Flag Football Champion)
Tonight.
Clay Matthews
How did Delaney know what you were gonna say?
Taylor Lawan
I don't know. It's crazy that Delaney would try to take that from me. I haven't even spoke to Delaney. No one knows where he is. Yeah, feels good. Hell of a show. Had fun.
Will Compton
Let's figure it out.
Clay Matthews
Call the. Call the doctor.
Taylor Lawan
I mean, I'll call when you guys got to go, though.
Will Compton
Big hugs, Tiny kisses.
Taylor Lawan
Big hugs, tiny kisses.
Will Compton
We'll see you next week.
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Clay Matthews
This is an iHeart podcast.
Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan
Guest: Clay Matthews
Special (Absent): Delaney Walker
This episode dives deep into NFL Week 12 picks and analysis, with a heavy dose of banter among Will, Taylor, and Clay. The crew breaks down the week’s marquee matchups, debates betting strategies, and delivers hot takes—while mixing in hilarious personal stories, friendly ribbing, and signature “locker room” energy. The main themes include: making sense of playoff races, team identities, and the ever-present struggle of picking winners against the spread—plus a running comedic thread about the missing-in-action Delaney Walker.
“Called the police. They said he’s got to be missing for 24 hours before we can actually put something in.” – Taylor (04:00)
“I broke the tip...just the tip broke off. AC.” – Clay (07:09)
“In my career, I had five and a half or six and a half sacks in four years...and you got picked in the first round.” – Will (11:41) “Name, name, name, name.” – Taylor on genetics, re: the Matthews legacy (12:02)
(Central runtime: Picks interspersed from 19:30 onward; highlights for each game below.)
“They have to win this week…next six; at Philly, Packers twice, at 49ers, Lions…” – Will (20:08)
“It’s good for football when Chicago has success.” – Clay (20:20)
“Their pass game is horrible right now…no run game…risk averse offense.” – Clay (40:05)
“I’m buying in on Dallas right now.” – Will (44:27)
“This is Colts money line for me… Chiefs are done after this week” – Will (71:02)
“If I die in the next seven days, you guys do this show and just pretend like I never actually died.” – Taylor (55:22)
“If you’re in Chiefs Kingdom, that fan base needs to start thinking about life not in the playoffs… the playoff hopes… will not be there in the postseason.” – Will (77:04)
“USC Trojans upset Oregon Ducks at Austin Stadium…represent Southern California in the College Football Playoff.” – Clay (77:23)
“This is a pass rusher brain making a bet.” – Will (32:45)
“No one knows where he is. Yeah, feels good. Hell of a show. Had fun.” – Taylor (78:52)
| Game | Will | Taylor | Clay* | Delaney | |--------------------------|----------------|--------------------|-----------------|---------------| | Bears vs. Steelers | Bears -2.5 | Bears -2.5 | Bears -2.5 | Steelers +2.5 | | Vikings vs. Packers | Packers -6.5 | Vikings +6.5 | Packers ML† | Packers -6.5 | | Eagles vs. Cowboys | Cowboys | Eagles -3.5 | Under 47.5 | Eagles -3.5 | | Bucs vs. Rams | Bucs +6.5 | Bucs +6.5 | Rams -6.5† | Rams -6.5 | | Panthers vs. 49ers | Panthers +7 | 49ers -7 | 49ers ML† | 49ers -7 | | Colts vs. Chiefs | Colts ML/+3.5 | Colts +3.5 | Under 49.5 | Colts +3.5 |
**Clay’s moneylines must be parlayed per show agreement.
This episode is classic Bussin’ With The Boys: football-focused but unfiltered, packed with sharp observations on team arcs, playoff races, and betting—but always with a side of goofiness and brotherly roasting. The hosts’ “for the boys” approach shines, making even the betting quarrels and off-topic rambles part of what fans crave.
Missing Delaney, “pass rusher brain” logic, and bold playoff takes—this one’s for the true football (and Bussin’) fans.