NFL Week 18 Picks: Who Wins AFC North & NFC South? + Delanie Walker Paints Nails Like Caleb Williams

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys – NFL Week 18 Picks: Who Wins AFC North & NFC South? + Delanie Walker Paints Nails Like Caleb Williams

Date: December 31, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan (as “Terror Lawan”), Clay Matthews, Delanie Walker
Theme: Breaking down Week 18 NFL matchups and playoff ramifications, with plenty of locker room banter and a hilarious live “nail painting bet” payoff.

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Episode Overview

This week’s episode is a classic Bussin’ With The Boys blend of sharp NFL analysis, playful trash talk, and behind-the-scenes NFL stories. With the regular season finale upon us, Will, Taylor, Clay, and Delanie tackle the biggest playoff-clinching scenarios, including the crowded NFC South and AFC North, while Delanie pays off a bet by getting his nails painted live – “Caleb Williams style.” The show features rapid-fire pick ’em opinions, a running performance incentive contract discussion, and plenty of memorable locker-room insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Week 18 Games with Playoff Implications

(Panthers vs. Buccaneers, Seahawks vs. 49ers, Lions vs. Bears, Chargers vs. Broncos, Ravens vs. Steelers, Commanders vs. Eagles)

• NFC South Decider: Panthers at Buccaneers

  • [11:00] All four agree the Bucs have lost “the juice,” citing locker room meltdowns and late-season struggles. Panthers’ defense and run game get the nod.
    • Delaney: “Panthers money line... the optimism, the life in the building, that old playoff vibe.” (14:11)
    • Will: “The Buccaneers look like they ready to go on a vacation.” (15:21)
    • Clay: “I just think there’s gonna be changes coming down there [in Tampa].” (12:13)

• NFC’s #1 Seed: Seahawks at 49ers

  • [17:01] Breakdown of explosive 49ers offense under Shanahan but with defensive injury concerns.
    • Clay: “I’m taking the coward’s pick—just go over 49.5 and hope for a good game.” (18:15)
    • Will: “It's a classic rival, but I’m taking the under.” (18:39)
    • Terror Lawan: “Seattle this year? 7-1 on the road, 5-1 ATS as away favorites. That’s enough for me to lean Seattle.” (20:45)

• Lions at Bears

  • [25:22] Discussion of Lions’ collapse and Bears’ surprising form.
    • Will: “I am getting my nails painted because the Bears are playing great football and they’re going to the playoffs.” (26:09)
    • Clay: “Lions lost to a third-string QB last week... they need to look in the mirror. Give me the Bears minus 2.5.” (27:14)
    • Terror Lawan: “Dan Campbell and the culture, Jared Goff’s the type to bounce back. I can actually see them winning this game.” (31:40)

• Commanders at Eagles

  • [33:48] Eagles expected to handle business, but second-half scoring droughts noted.
    • Clay: “Commanders have lost 10 of their last 11, playing their third QB. I still like the Eagles, talent disparity’s just too much.” (36:46)
    • Will: “Eagles second half—man, they don’t do a lot on offense. Going under.” (38:14)
    • Highlight stat: “Jalen Hurts is the first QB since 1978 to go 0-7 in the second half twice in a season.” (39:02)

• Chargers at Broncos (AFC #1 Seed in Play)

  • [45:09] Broncos are double-digit favorites as the Chargers rest key starters; consensus leans toward the under.
    • Will: “I’m taking the under. These boys ain’t playing nobody on the Chargers.” (48:09)
    • Clay: “Broncos money line, tease the under. Eleven and a half is wild.” (49:48)

• Ravens at Steelers (AFC North Title Game / True Classic Game of the Week)

  • [56:39] High stakes, winner-take-all tension – analysis delves into injuries, Derrick Henry’s monster day, and defensive fatigue.
    • Will: “Steelers losing a big piece at receiver, and I just gotta go under. I’m shook, not really focused 'cause my nails are getting done.” (57:02, 58:26)
    • Terror Lawan: “With the Steelers’ lack of power on offense, to me, this is clear Ravens -3.5.” (60:20)
    • Delaney: “If the Ravens win, they’re playing the Texans… yeah, give me the Ravens. Wait, I’ll take the Steelers.” (61:59)

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2. Notable Show Moments

A. Delanie’s Painted Nails Bet – Full Caleb Williams Style

• Will and Clay surprise Delanie with a local Nashville nail artist (“Heather”) painting his nails live for the episode – complete with glitter and a “Daddy Bear” design.
  • Quote:
    • Clay: “Your word is as good as gold. That’s like the gospel… brought in a local Nashville nail tech, dare I say artist.” (07:16, 07:36)
    • Delaney: “It’s actually sick as hell though. I can bust these.” (47:04)
    • Will: “I’m not going to remove them until they start chipping.” (78:40)
    • Group reaction: Hysterical banter about how men are supposed to look at their nails (46:34), tough guy “Daddy Bear” nails, and what designs are “sus.”
• Heather’s Husband, “Friend of the Show,” makes a cameo. Delaney picks left hand first (“West Hollywood style,” jokes Taylor).

B. Locker Room Contract Stories & NFL Incentives

• The crew gets into the weeds about NFL player incentives, performance bonuses, and contract quirks.
  • Clay: “Did you guys ever lose any incentives… did you have any in your contract you didn’t make?” (63:27)
  • Will (about Pro Bowl): “If you’re an alternate and a guy drops out… you go in, you’re a Pro Bowler!” (65:07)
  • Delaney: “My agent would be like, ‘What you think?’ I’d say, ‘70 catches.’ He’s like, ‘You get that every year, go higher!’” (70:16)
  • *Clay’s tale of losing $250k in L.A. over a disputed sack with Aaron Donald (73:08).
  • Saquon Barkley, Tony Pollard, Keenan Allen, and others’ Week 18 incentive targets highlighted (77:13).

C. Classic Quotes & Banter

• On the Panthers/Bucs playoff “juice”:
  • Terror Lawan: “When you’ve lost and things haven’t gone your way for four, five weeks, that’s when you kind of crumble. We’re gonna make the playoffs—but at what cost?” (14:28)
• On the Bears/Lions:
  • Will: “I am getting my nails painted because the Bears are playing great football and they’re going to the playoffs. Bears, Bears, Bears.” (26:09)
  • Clay: “Those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it.” (27:14)
• On the live nail painting:
  • Delaney: “I’m so uncomfortable right now.” (10:41)
  • Will: “It don’t even look like my hand, it look like a girl’s hand… Put lotion on it, brother.” (33:32)
• On incentives:
  • Terror Lawan: “It must be so fun and so much anxiety for them—‘I need to get this’.” (69:17)
  • Clay (about his missing sack): “Aaron Donald reported the sack we shared… they gave it all to him and I lost $250k.” (73:08)
• On performance bonuses and roster politics:
  • Will: “Cats used to live for those player bonuses. When I first got [in the league]… guys would have incentives, I was jealous. Never had one in my contract.” (68:36, 69:17)

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3. Timestamps for Key Segments

• Panthers vs. Buccaneers, NFC South: [11:00 – 15:30]
• Seahawks vs. 49ers, NFC #1 Seed: [17:01 – 22:23]
• Bears vs. Lions, playoff hopes: [25:09 – 33:17]
• Commanders vs. Eagles, seeding storylines: [33:48 – 42:26]
• Chargers vs. Broncos, AFC #1 Seed: [45:09 – 53:28]
• Ravens vs. Steelers, AFC North decider & incentives talk: [56:39 – 77:13]
• Live nail-painting bit, start to finish: [07:16, 47:04, 78:40, 79:04]
• NFL incentive talk and contract stories: [63:27 – 77:13]

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4. Tone and Style

The episode delivers classic Bussin’ With The Boys energy – comedic, slightly irreverent, and unfiltered, but always informed and filled with authentic insight. There’s constant self-deprecation, lively debate, and stories only NFL veterans can tell. The camaraderie is unmistakable, especially during the nail-bet payoff and bonus-contract confessions.

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5. Summary Table: Hosts’ Main Picks

| Game | Will Compton | Taylor Lewan | Clay Matthews | Delanie Walker | |-----------------------|-------------------------|------------------------|---------------------------|--------------------------| | Panthers at Buccaneers| Under | Panthers (+3) | Panthers (ML) | Panthers (ML) | | Seahawks at 49ers | Under | Seattle (+1.5) | Over 49.5 | Under | | Lions at Bears | Bears (Under) | Lions | Bears (-2.5) | Bears (-2.5) | | Commanders at Eagles | Under | Eagles (ML) | Eagles (-6.5) | Under | | Chargers at Broncos | Under | Chargers (+11.5) | Broncos (ML, tease under) | Under | | Ravens at Steelers | Under | Ravens (-3.5) | Ravens (-3.5) | Steelers |

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6. For the Listeners

If you missed this episode, you’ll feel like you were right in the studio, cackling as the boys needle each other over bets, relive Pro Bowl snubs, and give betting leans for every playoff-deciding NFL matchup. The mix of strategic insight and personality means even casual football fans will eat this one up—especially for the stories only ex-NFLers can tell and the sight of Delanie flexing his “Daddy Bear” glitter nails.

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Final Word:
Week 18, wild scenarios, locker room memories, painted nails—a classic Bussin’ ride. As always: Big hugs, tiny kisses. See you in the Playoffs.

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Transcript

[Terror Lawan]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the locker room NFL Edition with Klay Matthews, Will Compton, Delaney Walker and myself, Terror Lawan. Week 18. A lot of people think Hayes in the barn at this point. Not so fast, my friends. Panthers and Buccaneers taking place. The winner of this game will win the NFC South. Seahawks and 49ers both in the playoffs. The winner of that game will get the number one seed. Lions, Bears, don't worry about that. Chargers, Broncos, Broncos win this game, they get the 1 seed in the AFC. And then at the bottom, ignore that one right there. We'll talk about. But don't worry about it. Raven Steelers, winner of that game, NFC north championship. My futures prediction was Steelers to win the North. We'll see what happened on the show. Let's go to the standings for a second. Everybody and their mother, 3 and 4. I'm sitting up one game ahead of Delaney, which is incredible, by the way. I know we talked about it last week. That's amazing. Followed by Clay and then will you see bring up the rear like we know he likes to do. Hey, we have a great show for you guys today. Subscribe Comment Please help us out. Big hugs, tiny cases. Let's have a hell of a show.

[Will Compton]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coke. Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

No.

[Clay Matthews]

A delicious bowl of grapes? Yes. Yes, that. An afternoon stroll. Sorry, no.

[Will Compton]

A burrito bowl?

[Clay Matthews]

Happily, yes. A day of sunshine? No. A box of fine wines? Yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details.

[Delaney Walker]

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[Terror Lawan]

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[Delaney Walker]

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[Terror Lawan]

Profit boost Token Delaney, stay with me here. This is one you have to whip a crystal ball out for. Do you see a big bounce back from Steelers? Do you see the Ravens fight through the trade rumors and put up big numbers in back to back weeks? However you see it playing out, make sure you head to FanDuel Sportsbook to cook up your parlay. And don't forget to drop the profit boost token.

[Delaney Walker]

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[Clay Matthews]

Hey, welcome back.

[Delaney Walker]

Thanks.

[Will Compton]

Yeah man. Welcome back buddy.

[Delaney Walker]

You were very.

[Terror Lawan]

You were missed.

[Delaney Walker]

I was in the trenches last week boys. I was in the trenches last week.

[Terror Lawan]

Do you want to give a quick breakdown about that? Like overall, everyone's back.

[Delaney Walker]

Overall, everybody's back. Last week was Christmas week so not a lot of help and ru popped a 104 fever. She had it until Tuesday night, kind of went away. Fever came back Wednesday, went back up, took her and Scotty to the pediatrician on Christmas Eve morning because Scotty was also running a 103, 104. Charl was running a 102. They all got the flu, went to the pediatrician, Ru got her ears checked. She ended up catching any ear infections from the flu. Her fever was back up. Friday was the first kind of normal day of like a normal routine. But we embraced Christmas as much as Possible family canceled, planes to come in. But we made it work. We built some gingerbread houses, we opened up some presents, we had some fun. Lot of chaos, lot of turmoil.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

But we made it out alive.

[Terror Lawan]

You hit me with the gingerbread house, saying, keep the vibes alive. And that fired me up.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

And also, Charlo, your wife had a birthday this weekend as well.

[Delaney Walker]

Yes, she had a birthday.

[Terror Lawan]

So all that coupled into one, and it's like we can look at Will Compton. Feel bad for Will Compton, but getting on the other side of this, that scoreboard is crazy right now. You got yourself a few days where you can lean back and be like, sweet. Remember that, you know? Remember?

[Delaney Walker]

She still made the lasagna for Christmas Day while 6. So I still gotta. Yeah, she was grinding. I would kind of remember the scoreboard. We're kind of getting it. She would get in a grind mode.

[Terror Lawan]

A little lopsided for a second.

[Delaney Walker]

You can take it easy.

[Terror Lawan]

I like that.

[Delaney Walker]

But we're back. It was good to come into the shop this week.

[Will Compton]

Yes, indeed.

[Terror Lawan]

I noticed you came in nails still.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. What's going on? We get two of the biggest Bears hater all season long.

[Will Compton]

You know, three of the biggest Bears. I have never hated on the Bears.

[Delaney Walker]

You've been against the Bears all year.

[Will Compton]

No, I have not. No, I have not. I've been so much.

[Terror Lawan]

You said, if the Bears make the.

[Will Compton]

Playoffs, I was, look, I was like, yo, the Bears.

[Delaney Walker]

Let's be honest. I'm the Bears even come close if they make the playoffs, I'll pay my cause. I know it's not going to be my.

[Terror Lawan]

They have a 12.5%.

[Will Compton]

Let's get this right, everyone out there. Honestly, I didn't hear what he said. When he first said it, I didn't hear what he said. And then he was just like, if the Bears make it to the playoffs, would you paint your nails? And I'm like, of course. Thinking that I'm with the Bears.

[Terror Lawan]

Do we need to go back and watch that? We had a full conversation. I said, would you get Caleb on your fingers? Nah, I ain't doing that.

[Will Compton]

Don't believe everything you see. Most of that stuff is AI. But.

[Terror Lawan]

I had a conversation with the Cub.

[Clay Matthews]

Peter.

[Will Compton]

No, I mean, they were me sitting in the seats, but the words coming out of my mouth may have been AI.

[Delaney Walker]

So are you saying that you did not say you'd paint your nails?

[Will Compton]

No, I said, I will paint my nails.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, but you said you didn't know what I said.

[Will Compton]

When the hell I didn't know what you. I didn't know. You said if they. I didn't know you was saying I was taking them against them. Going against them. I thought I was for them.

[Terror Lawan]

Watching you get through that sentence, I realize you don't remember.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, hey. Regardless, Delaney, you're a man of your word. I am.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. You went 6 and 0. Your word is as good. Good as gold. Okay. It's like the gospel. And so I just went ahead and took the initiative to bring in a local Nashville nail tech, dare I say artist, who's going to be painting your nails the entire episode. So, Heather, if you don't mind coming on out.

[Will Compton]

Y' all lying.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, y' all lying.

[Delaney Walker]

So, hey, we gotta get the ones painted.

[Clay Matthews]

What hand would you like to start with? Your left or your right? The left.

[Terror Lawan]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

Heather, you don't mind switching?

[Will Compton]

Do you need anything?

[Clay Matthews]

Yes, just a. A chair.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And maybe some water.

[Terror Lawan]

Something cozy, too.

[Will Compton]

Yo, y'.

[Delaney Walker]

All.

[Will Compton]

Y' all joking, son.

[Terror Lawan]

I don't know what is the bitch you do.

[Will Compton]

He set me up. He set me up, cuz I'm like. He like, dude, you see, it's getting a lot of trend right now. And I'm like, yeah, I'mma paint him for the. I'm gonna get him painted. He's like, no, don't do that.

[Delaney Walker]

You gotta.

[Will Compton]

He said, I'm gonna do it after the show.

[Terror Lawan]

Oh, he set you up. He set me up.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, that is.

[Terror Lawan]

Do you do, like, designs? Like, what's your special.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, just waiting.

[Will Compton]

Oh, you already know.

[Clay Matthews]

No, listen, hey, real quick, real quick.

[Delaney Walker]

Do you have any suggestions?

[Clay Matthews]

I reached out to Heather a few days ago. I was looking for a local nail artist, you know, not just a tech who could do colors, but an artist. And I found Heather here. Impressive designs. Reached out. She thought it was a little odd, so I had to have clump jump in.

[Delaney Walker]

That's good.

[Terror Lawan]

You gotta make sure.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, but she. Her husband who's here. Friend of the show.

[Will Compton]

Friend of the show.

[Delaney Walker]

Brand of the show.

[Terror Lawan]

Is he. Where's he at?

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

You want to come on real.

[Clay Matthews]

Quick, introduce yourself.

[Delaney Walker]

Behind the scenes moment?

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

So she. Hey. Heather was fired up. She immediately began practicing Caleb's number heart, you know, bear down, daddy bear. So we're just going to leave it up to her to have free as an artist. We don't want to restrict her creative ability. We're just gonna let her do her thing for the show. In about 45 minutes to an hour, you'll be ready to go. You'll be looking Pretty.

[Terror Lawan]

And I'm not gonna tell Heather this. I'm just gonna tell you this, but I love to be as West Hollywood as possible, if you know what I mean.

[Clay Matthews]

Heather Sparkles, glitter.

[Terror Lawan]

I mean, I'm not gonna tell. That's my personal preference.

[Will Compton]

I'm dead right now. I'm not even gonna lie. Guys, they got me.

[Terror Lawan]

The meal has been got.

[Will Compton]

I am. God, I'm dead.

[Terror Lawan]

And then. Heather, whenever you're ready, feel free. Just move around. If you need us to move this while we're talking, we'll do whatever you need. This is your show today.

[Will Compton]

Damn, that's a good thing. I wasn't expecting that.

[Terror Lawan]

What a time, Delaney.

[Will Compton]

The whole time you were waiting on.

[Terror Lawan]

The other side, she was over there.

[Will Compton]

I saw them come up.

[Delaney Walker]

Really?

[Will Compton]

I saw them go upstairs. And I'm like, who the hell was that? But I didn't. I didn't question it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm just thinking, he's just doing your thing.

[Will Compton]

I'm just doing my thing, you know?

[Delaney Walker]

Then you walk in the building.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. Yeah. She got the Titans. She got the Titan sweater, I see.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, the benti.

[Terror Lawan]

Sure did. I pulled it out. Yeah. Did you have an 82 Titans jersey back in the day?

[Will Compton]

No.

[Terror Lawan]

Mike's parents did, but it was a.

[Will Compton]

Little too big, so I just found this sweater. That's awesome.

[Terror Lawan]

I love it.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm so uncomfortable right now.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, that's awesome. So how's it feel to see one of your heroes like this right now? Let's get into the games, huh?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, let's get in the games.

[Clay Matthews]

This is great.

[Terror Lawan]

We got the. The Panthers and the Buccaneers. The Panthers are playing at the buccaneers. They played two weeks ago. The winner of this game wins the NFC South. The Bucks are favored by three points, minus three. The total in that game is 44 and a half. Would you like to start, Mule? You got chat GPT up there.

[Will Compton]

I'm gonna let y' all go, man.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm, like, flustered.

[Will Compton]

I'm flustered.

[Terror Lawan]

I'll go. This. This, to me, is Panthers. This is Panthers. And it's just. It's really sad to see, because I know we sat there in September, we're like, baker Mayfield, he's having an MVP caliber. Look at all the comebacks he's had in the fourth quarter. I think he had four in the first, like, seven weeks of comeback winning drives. And just. It's got to be. He reminds me of what we kind of talked about with Ty Simpson in Alabama. Baker Mayfield seems like a guy that's. He's playing through a lot of injuries right now, whether they're disclosed or not. But he's fighting through it. You give him a lot of, a lot of love for that. It breaks my heart. But the Panthers, and they got a, you lean on defense and run game in these, in these situations and the Panthers have that edge over them. So I'll be taking the Panthers.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm rolling with you here. I think, I think the juice is gone in Tampa. You look at Todd Bowles and the expletive laden post game tirade after the Falcons, you know, the 14 point. They had the 14 point lead. They didn't bounce back from that. And like, and the way they're kind.

[Delaney Walker]

Of cussing at each other on the way into the locker room.

[Terror Lawan]

Mike Evans yelling 3rd and 14.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you just, I, you know, I just, I don't think either team really wants to win it. But as you said with Carolina, I mean, they held the Seahawks for three points in the first half. So their defense does show up at times. I think the talent disparity in the second half really showed itself. But you know, Bryce Young, I read These stats off 14 completions for 54 yards, for 2.3 yards per attempt, whereas Dowdle was running for 4.9 yards per attempt here. So it's, it's shown that the way they're going to win is running the ball, playing defense. He had a nice interception, I forget in the end zone on Darnold there, but I give him the plus three, the Panthers a plus three here. I just think the juice is gone in Tampa and I think there's going to be some changes coming down there. But I mean, shoot, even if the Bucks win, the Falcons muddied it up last night. Excuse me, they muddied it up by winning because there could potentially be a three way tie where the Bucks win and the Falcons beat the Saints. Carolina still goes to the playoffs. So you got to think that's, that's, that's weighing on.

[Delaney Walker]

You got to play the odds.

[Clay Matthews]

What odds are those?

[Delaney Walker]

The odds.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

So that's a couple situations where Panthers are in. Yeah, yeah. The odds.

[Terror Lawan]

So there's more odds. The Panthers make it in.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm just wondering why we're not going money line boys, why we're not getting the Moneyline Matthews on this one.

[Terror Lawan]

Moneyline Panthers.

[Delaney Walker]

I like, I like Moneyline Panthers. I like Moneyline Panthers.

[Clay Matthews]

I like to steal my flow.

[Delaney Walker]

Well, I know. That's why I was kind of waiting.

[Clay Matthews]

Let's do it. Money. Hey, Panthers. Money line.

[Delaney Walker]

I Like it, yeah, I'm rolling Panthers money line. I see it more as, like, Panthers fighting for the opportunity to playoff. Like the optimism, the life that they still have in the building, like, they kind of trade off games, losing one, winning one. The old Redskins were in that situation back in 2015 where the whole, you like that game happens with Kirk cousins. We were 2 and 4 at the time. End up beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and kind of going on this. Win every other game.

[Clay Matthews]

Gotta harden it up.

[Delaney Walker]

Win every other game. But you're fighting for that chance to get into the playoffs. Where I feel like the Buccaneers kind of have. They haven't played to their level of the expectation throughout the season. So them going into this game, the winning end game, I like the Panthers because again, defense, run game and everything else. So I'm going to go Panthers money line.

[Terror Lawan]

And, you know, the conversation with the Bucs in that locker room, in that team meeting room is, guys, regardless of how things have gone the last four or five weeks, like, we're still in a position to, like, make it to the playoffs, win the division. And I understand that vibe. But also there's a lot of. You get in the locker room if things start to not go their way earlier in the game. It's when you've lost and things have not gone your way the last four or five weeks, that's when you kind of crumble. And it's like, you know, we're gonna make it to the playoffs, but at what cost?

[Delaney Walker]

Like what one extra from which teams?

[Terror Lawan]

For the. For the Buccaneers. The Panthers have a little more juice, a little more rolling. I'm playing into. I like the Panthers. I'll still be taking a plus three, but that's just a hedge bet. I think they're gonna win out. Right.

[Delaney Walker]

Just a.

[Terror Lawan]

But for the sake of standings. I see my name with a one next to it and I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to lose that. Yeah, it's a nice little baby. I got there. Because at one point and at one point. But now you know, yeah, who you got.

[Will Compton]

You know that everything you guys said is pretty much spot on. The Buccaneers is a team that's dwindling. They don't know what they want to do. Do they want to win a game and go to the playoffs, or are they ready to go on a vacation? Looks like they ready to go on a vacation. The Panthers are a team that is fighting, showing that they can. They can keep up, put points on the board. But the defense that Defense right there is the reason why they are so successful. And with that being said, I am taking the under. Under total of. What is that? 44 and a half. I'm taking it under.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't think.

[Will Compton]

Oh, my God.

[Terror Lawan]

Don't even look at it.

[Clay Matthews]

It's just a base.

[Terror Lawan]

Don't even look at it.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, just wait till the end.

[Delaney Walker]

It's a primer.

[Terror Lawan]

She moving too.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Under, under, under, under.

[Delaney Walker]

I do like that pick.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, boys, do we have any worries about. I just feel like the Panthers have a little case of the yips when it comes to big moments.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Or winning back to back games.

[Clay Matthews]

Winning back to back games. I'm just, I'm a little worried, you know, because Tampa does at times look incredible. Baker forcing a few passes. But I'm rolling with the. The Panthers based on their defense and their run game. But I'm just. I. I think it's like we started out here. I don't think either team. I think it's probably gonna be a one and done for either of these teams.

[Will Compton]

Oh, in the playoffs.

[Delaney Walker]

It's 2015 Washington, bro. I'm telling you.

[Will Compton]

Well, it depends who they play in.

[Clay Matthews]

The wild card game. Oh, I forgot.

[Will Compton]

My bad, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

You know what I'm saying? My bad. I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. One and done. That was the Clay Matthews year. That was the year we went into the playoffs and you single handedly won that game.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, thanks, bro.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, they kind of diffused you there for a second. I'm agreeing with you. He's like, all right.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

All right, then your four tackles won the game.

[Clay Matthews]

One and a half sacks, force fumble.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Four tackles. Don't do that.

[Terror Lawan]

So we got the Seahawks.

[Clay Matthews]

Stop it.

[Terror Lawan]

We got the Seahawks at the 49ers this game. Whoever wins this game will have the 1 seed in the NFC.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Incredible to see with Shanahan, the 49ers, the defense and the injuries that they've had. The Seahawks are favorite at one and a half. Total points in that game is 49 and a half points.

[Clay Matthews]

William.

[Delaney Walker]

Pass.

[Terror Lawan]

Got it. Clay.

[Clay Matthews]

My first reaction after without breaking all this down is watching the 49ers versus the Bears. I don't think. Well, Ben Johnson. But there's another better offensive play caller than Shanahan right now. I mean, their offense is absolutely rolling. They've got holes on defense. Obviously missing Fred Warner, Bosa, you know, Bear, it was just back and forth. It was. I was telling Taylor it's a. It's a nf. It's a casual NFL fans dream. Just back and forth points. Comes down to four points left in the game. But Seattle, I think they're second in the league right now in points per game. Yeah. Allowing the fewest points per game at 17.3.

[Delaney Walker]

Man.

[Clay Matthews]

I just. If the 49 and the Seahawks have been starting slow as of late, especially in the first half, I could see a game where the 49ers get, you know, a 14 point lead early and then the Seahawks are coming back. But I don't feel comfortable one way or one way or the other. So I'm going to take the cowards pick here and just go over 49 and a half and just hope for a good game.

[Terror Lawan]

Fun offensive game.

[Will Compton]

You got to look at this. This is a classic rival. Two teams who hate each other. The 49ers versus the Seahawks. It's going to be a showdown, but I think it's going to be a low scoring game. It's going to come down to execution and coaching. I am taking the under on this game.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm rocking with Delaney. I thought everything you were saying he was going to go under.

[Clay Matthews]

I just feel like the 49ers offense is going to put up at least 24 points and the Seahawks are going to be right there with them. I just don't think that the 49ers have a defense to combat Darnold. That run game Buddy had, was it Charbonnet two touchdowns last week. I just. I think it's going to be a high scoring affair. I don't know who wins. This should be a fun game. I like the over here but I. I completely understand.

[Delaney Walker]

You feel shootout. You feel a shootout.

[Clay Matthews]

I mean I don't know if like a 28, 24 games a shootout maybe. It is depending on your definition of it. I just think. I don't think it's gonna be like the 49ers Bears game.

[Terror Lawan]

Does it.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Terror Lawan]

Does it change your guys thought process at all knowing that the 49ers in the last three games have scored 37 or more points.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. But against the Seahawks delay this experience.

[Delaney Walker]

And playing for the 1 seed.

[Terror Lawan]

Playing for the 1 seed.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, but this isn't Pete Carroll. This isn't 49ers last in the league in sacks. These are new coaches.

[Will Compton]

You right. But that's what you got atmosphere though. That same atmosphere. Everyone knows what's on the line. They talking about we may not put a lot of points on the board. It's gonna be a greedy game. Whoever want it the most is gonna come out on top.

[Terror Lawan]

They saying that, you know, San Francisco's not that loud.

[Will Compton]

No, they not.

[Terror Lawan]

Well.

[Delaney Walker]

Well, it's gonna be a big game.

[Will Compton]

You got Trent over there.

[Clay Matthews]

Wait, hold on.

[Terror Lawan]

It's not that long.

[Clay Matthews]

Is Trent even playing this week? It's a short week. I think that you didn't really see.

[Will Compton]

Well then that should even help our case. If Trent don't play that offense. Is they down a big piece?

[Clay Matthews]

Talking myself out of there. Hey, but you know who's coming back? Allegedly. Kittle.

[Will Compton]

I heard that. I heard that.

[Terror Lawan]

Allegedly.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, it's going to be a dog fight.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, it's going to be a dog fight.

[Delaney Walker]

Here's a stat for the one Cs for the one seed.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, for the one seed.

[Terror Lawan]

Give me a nugget. Okay. Seattle this year they're 7:1 on the road. 7 and 1. They're 5 and 1 against the spread as away favorites. That's enough for me to lean towards Seattle, especially with this small spread here. And Sam Donald, he hasn't been himself the last couple of weeks. Brock Purdy, since he's been back has been incredible. All that. Mac Jones, should he be a starter that is completely getting solid. He's still going to catch himself a bag at the end of this year.

[Will Compton]

No, he got one more.

[Clay Matthews]

He signed a two year.

[Terror Lawan]

Someone's going to give up a two. Oh, I could see. I could see it. Desperate. Desperate teams need a quarterback who knows. Dante Moore. Does he come in? Does he go to the draft? Does he stay for one more year? People are looking at this quarterback draft class. It's not that strong. What if we get somebody that we know can play in the NFL? I can definitely see somebody giving up a two. But I'll go Seattle.

[Will Compton]

Smart.

[Terror Lawan]

I'll go Seattle.

[Will Compton]

I like Seattle too.

[Terror Lawan]

Which is going against my original pick.

[Delaney Walker]

I picked the 1720 was the first game.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Teams that know each other well.

[Terror Lawan]

CMC.

[Delaney Walker]

142 yards and know each other well. Clay. I know.

[Clay Matthews]

I just. I just think they're at a different point. Was. Was. Was Mack playing at that time? Like who? I just. The first. I gotta stick with it. I just gotta roll with it.

[Will Compton]

It was Brock the first game.

[Clay Matthews]

I just gotta roll with it. Okay.

[Delaney Walker]

And it's like we're in playoff football mode with this game.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, we wouldn't. Hey. Last between the Bears and the 49ers was playoff football. And it was just.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, but not like this week. Not like week 18. This is for the 1 seed, which means offense. This is from the Niners to go for.

[Clay Matthews]

Shanahan's just drawing up everything in the dirt. And you saw who. No, that was the Bears. I keep going back to the Bears with the hook and ladder. We got two teams running it.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

All right.

[Terror Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

What a matchup. We got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit chant. Echo drum beat. Everybody showing school pride. Game like this. Yeah. It calls for an ice cold Coca Cola.

[Clay Matthews]

Ah.

[Will Compton]

Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Terror Lawan]

One in three people untreated, just don't wake up. I may be the one in three.

[Clay Matthews]

It feels as if someone removed all.

[Will Compton]

My skin down to the muscle and.

[Clay Matthews]

Covered me in a wool blanket.

[Will Compton]

All you want to do is find the magic wand that's going to take all of this away. We just couldn't find it. She was screaming uncontrollably like she was in pain.

[Clay Matthews]

It was very, very clear that something was going wrong.

[Will Compton]

How do you fight an unknown enemy?

[Terror Lawan]

And I was walking back and I lost my vision. I did not know what was going on.

[Will Compton]

Nothing like that had ever happened to me before. Searching for clues while the clock ticks.

[Clay Matthews]

Doctors gave her a timeline of.

[Will Compton]

We don't think you'll have passed your 25th birthday. And the stakes couldn't be higher. I am not going to be okay.

[Delaney Walker]

If we're too late to help Rosie.

[Will Compton]

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[Delaney Walker]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Delaney Walker]

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[Terror Lawan]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Delaney Walker]

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[Terror Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

I'm just saying.

[Terror Lawan]

So where you at?

[Delaney Walker]

Are you going over?

[Clay Matthews]

I'll just give me the over.

[Delaney Walker]

He's going over. He's going over.

[Terror Lawan]

Over.

[Delaney Walker]

Under Seattle.

[Terror Lawan]

Okay. All right. Lions at Bears.

[Clay Matthews]

Your boy Caleb you already know at.

[Terror Lawan]

Bears minus two and a half total points in that game, 49 and a half points.

[Delaney Walker]

Delaney, you guys gonna take some flesh out of him.

[Will Compton]

You gotta look at it. I don't know what it is about December, January, football. You got the good teams playing to the bad teams level. I don't understand that. Who, what team are we going to get? What Lions team are we going to get? Are we going to get the Lions? That could come out with a high power offense. Put points on the board at any, any given time. Are we going to get the lines we saw with Jared Goff just turning the ball?

[Delaney Walker]

Was it five, six, turnover.

[Will Compton]

I mean that is crazy. And we know how well the Bears are with take with the takeaways, how good the defense is playing. Caleb is playing some good football right now. At the end of the day I am getting my nails painted because of the Bears are playing a great, some great football and they're going to the playoffs. So I'm going to stick with this.

[Clay Matthews]

Got to.

[Will Compton]

Bears. Bears. Bears. But I'm taking it under.

[Clay Matthews]

Way.

[Terror Lawan]

Say I'm sorry to the Bears fans.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I, I think this is a no brainer here. I think the Bears have a lot to play for here as the, the number two seed sets up a rematch with the packers who they're obviously very familiar with at the seven seed which I'm just, I'm loving, I'm loving the suck. Hey, we'll find. Hey, we'll find out.

[Terror Lawan]

Trump said it.

[Clay Matthews]

It's got to be true. Then I'm. Hey, don't, don't shoot the messenger, okay? I was just reading, reading the message here, but they split it. They split this. You weren't here last week. Little rehash 2010, the year we won the Super Bowl. We split this the, the regular season series one apiece. We had to go back to Soldier Field to beat them on our way to the super bowl and we all know how that ended. Beautiful diamonds on my finger now, but so I'm Just saying those, those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

[Delaney Walker]

That's a bar.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

It's actually like Teddy Roosevelt or somebody. No, I think for the Bears. No, I mean it's a no brainer. I mean The Lions lost 23 to 10, facing a third string quarterback who threw for three. Three net passing yards, nine for 16 for 51 yards. Like it's over. You're not making the playoffs. They need to look in the mirror or look at themselves. They have too much firepower between Gibbs and Goff and I mean, you name it up and down the board and they're playing at Soldier Field. I'm not sure what the weather's going to be, but we know the team plays better. The Lions play better in a dome. They're going outside. Bears have more to play for. Give me the Bears at minus two and a half cover. And I think this is the no brainer of the week.

[Delaney Walker]

You think the Lions are kind of laying down?

[Will Compton]

Of course.

[Delaney Walker]

But I'm saying you really think like Dan Campbell that that locker room, those boys aren't going to go out. Those guys aren't going to go out. I feel you.

[Clay Matthews]

Last week did you think they were the playoff for the Vikings.

[Will Compton]

That was for the.

[Clay Matthews]

That was.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Much bigger implications, bigger states.

[Terror Lawan]

If you're, if you're going, I'm already going.

[Clay Matthews]

But you won't be alone lines.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't think I'm going Lions.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm going Lions.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm just more so asking the question, are we really talking ourselves? I get that they played a bad game last week, but we think we're just, they're just going to pack it in and give up and go to Soldier Field being like, I can't wait till this game's over.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Because I think they upstairs like we need a new quarterback.

[Clay Matthews]

Brother. They were 14 and 2 last year. Of course they're packing.

[Terror Lawan]

No, that's what the fan, the fan base was calling for Jared.

[Clay Matthews]

God.

[Terror Lawan]

Last year they put the Houston Texans in Houston and Jared had a similar game. He played terrible.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And he lit it up. I get it. But how many times have we felt like. I felt like golf is the reason why the Lions are not making it to the playoffs. Let's just be honest.

[Clay Matthews]

I think he's up and down, up and down. I think the pocket's clean. I think, you know, he can deliver any pass though. For 300 yards you acted like Jared.

[Delaney Walker]

Goff is a scrub.

[Will Compton]

I'm not saying he a scrub, but.

[Clay Matthews]

I'd Rather have Stafford so they should trade him back.

[Will Compton]

Nah, I ain't say that. I'm just saying they sick.

[Delaney Walker]

I'd rather have Drake maybe.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Drake May mvp, dude.

[Delaney Walker]

I think so.

[Clay Matthews]

Or do you think they give it to Stafford just because he's old head?

[Delaney Walker]

So I feel like, I feel like the stock for Drake May has went up because of that primetime game. And like there were, you know, comments coming back at me in the reply saying like you, he shouldn't be defined by this one game, yada yada, which I don't disagree with. I'm just saying this late in the year on prime time where everybody's watching and voting is about to take place. Everything else and you throw three picks and Drake May's out there throwing five touchdowns. I don't care against which NFL team it is. Like that's gonna play. Yeah, it's an NFL team like that's gonna play a part in the voting. And it's like New England's got Miami this week. We're assuming they're gonna take care of Miami. Of course they go off on a win and it's gonna be Drake Mays.

[Will Compton]

He leading for sure. Drake May is minus 390 right now to win MVP.

[Delaney Walker]

So he jumped up to him. Where's Stafford at?

[Terror Lawan]

Plus 280.

[Delaney Walker]

Stafford's plus 280 in FanDuel and Drake Mays minus 320 that last game. 390 the last game. And they were just. Yeah, they were just neck and neck.

[Will Compton]

Last game just changed that whole shift, that whole little.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, no, I think, I think there's an argument for both. And you're right, one quarterback shouldn't be defined by one game. However, if it's a primetime game, you're at the end of the year. Recency bias clearly takes place when it comes to this voting. Like you got to finish stronger than you start.

[Clay Matthews]

True.

[Terror Lawan]

And that game, which is shitty because I think Matthew Stafford, I mean he doesn't have one yet, right?

[Delaney Walker]

No, he doesn't have one. And he's playing arguably his best year he's had, which is Harvard.

[Terror Lawan]

And even if you look at their stats, like with the three picks was it that Matthew Stafford had last night? Yeah, three picks. He now has the same amount of interceptions as Drake May and 12 more touchdowns, 300 more yards, something like that.

[Delaney Walker]

Something out there.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm just throwing.

[Will Compton]

Sometimes you got to look at who's catching that ball though too. You got Puka. Puka is puka. Catch a five yard route and turn it into 80 so that that turns his stats Stafford stats into even crazier numbers.

[Clay Matthews]

In the red zone.

[Will Compton]

Devonte in the red zone. Now look at the Patriots. They didn't get Stefan to what week? I. I don't know.

[Terror Lawan]

I don't know Exactly.

[Will Compton]

Maybe week six.

[Clay Matthews]

But is he a true wide receiver one at this point in his career.

[Terror Lawan]

Right. Coming off 20 ACL. He's older. The casual fan is not going to name the wide the wide receivers that are on the field for the Patriots. But the casual fan can for the Rams.

[Will Compton]

For the Rams all day.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. That's a great argument for the Patriots and Drake May. Anyway, I'm taking the lines.

[Clay Matthews]

Whoa, oh.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm taking the Lions shook that one up. I like I know the Bears are playing for more. Lions are playing for nothing. They shit the bed when they were supposed to make the had a chance to make the playoffs last week. You gave the stats about the other quarterback. Listen, Dan Campbell and the culture Jared Goff type of guy he is. Friend of the show, sits there. He seems like a guy that's water off his back. Anytime he has a bad game. He knows he's let the team down. This he's going to come full force this game. And I can actually see them winning this game and it's only two and a half points. So I'll take that money line.

[Delaney Walker]

I thought I was taking crazy pills for a second, but Stavon Diggs has been on the squad the whole year.

[Clay Matthews]

No, I meant as far as injury coming back from.

[Terror Lawan]

No, I think he played the whole injury.

[Clay Matthews]

Did he play week one?

[Will Compton]

No, he did not play week one.

[Terror Lawan]

He was out of practice today.

[Clay Matthews]

He was coming back from I believe.

[Will Compton]

It'S word in ACL last year. Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't. He didn't play week one.

[Clay Matthews]

Big breakout game was against. Was it the Bills? Yeah, against the Bills. That was like week two or three.

[Delaney Walker]

When they lost to the Raiders on September 7th. He had six receptions for 57 yards.

[Will Compton]

He was out there.

[Clay Matthews]

That was week one.

[Will Compton]

Really?

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, I remember him playing right.

[Delaney Walker]

Played all of September.

[Will Compton]

Oh, damn. He was.

[Delaney Walker]

He had a breakout game against the Bills where he had 10.

[Will Compton]

Okay, I thought he. I just said I thought he didn't play.

[Terror Lawan]

They had the craziest thing. You were just saying. We were just kind of having a sidebar about us. Isn't it insane the Patriots lost to the Raiders.

[Will Compton]

I know.

[Terror Lawan]

And like. Like at that point in time we're like the Raiders.

[Will Compton]

We thought the Raiders gonna be all right.

[Terror Lawan]

Carroll, Chip Kelly they're gonna get it done.

[Delaney Walker]

Nope, I'm gonna take the Bears. I'm gonna take the Bears. I didn't get my pick out there, but I'm gonna go Bears to cover.

[Terror Lawan]

All right, next game is the Commanders and the Eagles. Eagles varied by six and a half points. Total in that game is 41 and a half.

[Clay Matthews]

Looks good.

[Terror Lawan]

Don't look at it. Don't look at it. Have you coming up naturally.

[Delaney Walker]

It looks good.

[Will Compton]

It don't even look like my fit hand. Like, every time I look at it, it look like a girl's hand.

[Clay Matthews]

Put lotion on it, brother.

[Will Compton]

Huh? It just looked like a girl's hand. I don't even know.

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, yeah, Commander's Eagles.

[Terror Lawan]

I mean, you're a big Eagles guy. Will, what are you thinking?

[Will Compton]

Are the Eagles going.

[Delaney Walker]

I like commanders with the points.

[Clay Matthews]

Eagles are still in play for their seeding between two and three. The Bears are what? Do we know what time these games are between the Bears and the Eagles as far as Is there any implications? Oh, so they're both playing.

[Will Compton]

We both are playing it.

[Delaney Walker]

Am I seeing this right? Does this one feel like an Eagles moneyline game?

[Will Compton]

So if the Bears win, they get.

[Terror Lawan]

The two Eagles need to win and lose.

[Clay Matthews]

What am I looking at?

[Delaney Walker]

It's just Eagles money line. They're favored by six and a half.

[Clay Matthews]

Here's what I'm going to say.

[Delaney Walker]

Talk to us.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, they're six and a half. Last time I checked, they were seven and a half.

[Will Compton]

I thought it was seven and a half, too.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, okay. Oh, I like that. I even wrote moved to six and a half. So me and fanduel, they need to employ me. Okay. Hey, real quick. I threw an 11 legger out this weekend and this guy shit's on it.

[Will Compton]

I threw it out, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

You. When you win, you win. That's you won plus 3.99.

[Clay Matthews]

He goes, awful lot of work for 3.99.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm like.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, no, you're right. The point of gambling is to lose. My bad.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm just picturing you sitting there scrubbing all these games and putting together winners. Like, didn't you win a 15 Legger the week before?

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, since you've been out of the office, Clay's been going crazy. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, I did come up short last night.

[Will Compton]

Exactly.

[Terror Lawan]

Because I was telling.

[Clay Matthews]

I was telling as I was telling Mitch, the only person who lost more than me was Matthew Stafford last night. Okay, so we just let that one go. That was an anomaly. We get back on the horse.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

But I just picture him going through just all these situations to pick two plus receptions. Like these massive double digit leg parlays and they come out +399.

[Terror Lawan]

It's like you could probably, you know, delete a couple of those legs and still have the same odds is what will.

[Clay Matthews]

No, I check it. I check it.

[Terror Lawan]

Maybe I get this one out of here.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I got, I got, I got another one. JSN to record a 10 yard reception. Yeah, I'm gonna, that's gonna move me up to 2. 2 points.

[Delaney Walker]

But you're winning. That's what. Whether I see Stafford over 50 yards passing or not. That's. Aside from.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, who do you guys got? Eagles Commanders money line.

[Delaney Walker]

I was, I was kind of asking for some advice. I was asking for some advice.

[Terror Lawan]

What's your advice?

[Clay Matthews]

My advice is I go with the Eagles here.

[Terror Lawan]

Eagles.

[Clay Matthews]

What Eagles? I gotta. Eagles minus six and a half. I think this game's gonna be closer, but not remember, if you remember, the Eagles went for two points. Just two. Just a week ago or two weeks ago. Whenever, whenever it was that they put. Dan Quinn was on the field looking around saying, hey, we're playing again. So they love nothing more than to play spoiler at least. And maybe.

[Delaney Walker]

And there's a fight at the end.

[Clay Matthews]

Of the game, but that's what I'm saying. So there was something going on. But the Commanders have lost 10 of their last 11 games. They're playing with their third string quarterback. I think just the talent disparity between these two teams is too much. I know it's a divisional game. We talk about divisional games being close, but in the Eagles look phenomenal in the first half against the Bills, both offensively and defensively. But then you look at these. I mean this is what we've talked about all year with the Eagles. You look at the second half numbers. 17 total yards, they had it five times. Five possessions in the second half on offense, four, three and outs. One time they got a first down for 13 yards total. That, I mean it's just.

[Delaney Walker]

They've done that twice this year. It's second half, under 20 yards.

[Clay Matthews]

But I still think the Eagles, they take care of this game. I think it's going to be closer. I wouldn't be surprised if they win by four. But for the show's sake.

[Terror Lawan]

No, no. We've clearly thrown that out the window.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I like to play a little bit. I don't want to get people too upset, you know what I'm saying?

[Terror Lawan]

We've told that joke enough to where I literally said to you, oh, you.

[Clay Matthews]

Did my bad last week, give me the Eagles money line.

[Terror Lawan]

Right. Last week is exactly.

[Delaney Walker]

We got with Delaney under divisional game.

[Will Compton]

It's divisional game. Like he said. Everything he said, the second half, they will not score. I mean, they don't put points. I mean, they don't do a lot on offense. I think it's going to be a low scoring game, so I'm going to keep it under. I just feel like all these games are going to be low scoring just is what it is, you know, Give.

[Delaney Walker]

It to the bank.

[Terror Lawan]

It is what it is.

[Clay Matthews]

It is what it is. Under 41.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I can't move. You know I'm a hand person when I talk. Yeah, you're kind of making my designs wobble.

[Delaney Walker]

Sorry. He wants to just look at the camera.

[Terror Lawan]

Can't be shot with a mule. Hey, is that stat? The stat? You said that last one last bar.

[Delaney Walker]

Which one now?

[Terror Lawan]

The bottom. The last.

[Will Compton]

The last.

[Delaney Walker]

The very bottom.

[Clay Matthews]

Delaney. Why don't we get stacked?

[Will Compton]

I know we used to.

[Terror Lawan]

You didn't say that, Seth.

[Clay Matthews]

They wanted them to look better.

[Delaney Walker]

017.

[Terror Lawan]

This is just.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

This is. Jalen Hurts is the first quarterback since 1978 to go07 in the second half or worse in multiple games.

[Clay Matthews]

He said that to me.

[Terror Lawan]

That's what Will sent you?

[Delaney Walker]

There was a few that were full. Stat is the 2025 Eagles are the first team since the 1987 Patriots to win multiple games in a season in which they did not complete a pass.

[Terror Lawan]

In the second half.

[Will Compton]

What?

[Delaney Walker]

And it was Jalen Hurts. Twice this year.

[Will Compton]

He went 0 for 7. That is twice insane.

[Terror Lawan]

That's what you're getting with the Eagles, man.

[Will Compton]

He's going around here.

[Terror Lawan]

I feel great about the money line.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, I do, too.

[Terror Lawan]

I feel really good about the money line.

[Clay Matthews]

The only thing that gives me pause is divisional game. And with what happened last time, Dan Quinn getting the boys ready, they. There's gonna be a little extra motivation because, like, hey, 15 yard penalty here and there.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. I just think I look at the Commanders way differently. Look at the Lions. Like, the Commanders have just kind of been gone the whole year, like expectations. As soon as September ended, everyone kind of forgot about them, moved on. And with the Lions, I feel like that culture is still intact, even week 18.

[Delaney Walker]

But Queen's a culture guy, too.

[Terror Lawan]

No doubt. No doubt. I just. It just. It feels. This is just a personal feeling.

[Delaney Walker]

It just feels like I just. Yeah. I'm just. My thought is I just don't see either of these teams, even though they know their year's over, like week 18, all of a sudden they're just going to. They're just showing up and rolling out like, hey, let's get this game over with. Yeah, you're going out for one last.

[Terror Lawan]

You love to talk about Super Bowls. No one know. No one knows. Week 18 means nothing more than me and Delaney. And we still play hard. Yeah, the team still plays hard.

[Delaney Walker]

But that's where you get the speeches. Not for the name. If you got to play for something, play back there.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. That's when you flip the script on everybody. Yeah. That can't talk is now completed.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Look around.

[Delaney Walker]

The top roster is going to look different.

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

I might not be here next year. That's when you know, oh, boys, we gotta put a resume out for this next dog coming.

[Clay Matthews]

Is there a world, though, where the Eagles rest their starters? Cuz Sirianni, after the game, he. I think somebody had asked him, do you rest your starters? And he's, ah, it's a little too early for that. But the fact he didn't put it down. And with the Bears, who are they playing again? You just talked about.

[Will Compton]

Dude, is there a world where they were.

[Clay Matthews]

If it's not going their way, do they rest them? What's the difference between a 2 and a 3? 2 is going to play the Packers. 3 is going to play either the Rams or 49ers.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, so that would be.

[Delaney Walker]

It'd be. Loser of Niners, Seattle.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, right.

[Terror Lawan]

The three seed.

[Will Compton]

They'll be the three.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, they'll be the three seed.

[Will Compton]

So I'm saying out of the 49ers.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm saying the five seed is going to be the loser of Niners in Seattle.

[Will Compton]

And that's Clump.

[Delaney Walker]

Clump.

[Will Compton]

You're.

[Delaney Walker]

You're, you're the Philly guy.

[Will Compton]

That's a tough game.

[Clay Matthews]

You think Philly's up there?

[Delaney Walker]

Have you seen any more outside of the press?

[Terror Lawan]

I haven't seen anything in that. I'm surprised, though, Will Compton didn't smirk.

[Will Compton]

And say that the Eagles will be better if they didn't play Jaylen Herz.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm so.

[Delaney Walker]

I am surprised that that was. I'm sitting there waiting and be like, Tanner McKee's still going to sling the rock around.

[Will Compton]

I think the Eagles backups would still beat the Commanders.

[Clay Matthews]

I think they'd still come.

[Will Compton]

I don't think they rest them, though.

[Terror Lawan]

I think if Jalen Hurst doesn't play first round of the playoffs. You're saying, who do you play?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I feel that.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, that made sense, right?

[Delaney Walker]

How about too when Siri was coming up the tunnel, Be like, I ain't talking anymore. Then he looks over at AJ and AJ's like, yeah, man. And Tyriani kind of like keeps walking and realizes the lock.

[Clay Matthews]

You gotta turn back.

[Will Compton]

What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody showing that school pride. A game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. Adding ice cold, cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Terror Lawan]

One in three people untreated just don't wake up.

[Clay Matthews]

I may be the one in three. It feels as if someone removed all my skin down to the muscle and covered me in a wool blanket.

[Will Compton]

All you want to do is is find the magic wand that's going to take all of this away. We just couldn't find it.

[Clay Matthews]

She was screaming uncontrollably like she was in pain. It was very, very clear that something was going wrong.

[Will Compton]

How do you fight an unknown enemy?

[Terror Lawan]

And I was walking back and I lost my vision. I did not know what was going on.

[Will Compton]

Nothing like that had ever happened to me before. Searching for clues while the clock ticks. Doctors gave her a timeline of. We don't think you'll live past your 25th birthday. And the stakes couldn't be higher. I am not going to be okay.

[Delaney Walker]

If we're too late to help Rosie.

[Will Compton]

She's a mission. We have to get it done in time. For Rosie, I'm Lauren Bragg Pacheco, host of Symptomatic, a medical mystery podcast. Listen to all new episodes wherever you get the stories that matter to you. The 2026 Chevy Equinox is more than an SUV. It's your Sunday tailgate and your parking lot snack bar.

[Clay Matthews]

Your lucky jersey, your chairs and your.

[Will Compton]

Big cooler fit perfectly in your even bigger cargo space. And when it's go time, your 11.3-inch.

[Delaney Walker]

Diagonal touchscreen's got the playbook, the playlist.

[Terror Lawan]

And the tech to stay a step ahead.

[Clay Matthews]

It's more than an suv.

[Delaney Walker]

It's Your Equinox Chevrolet together.

[Will Compton]

Let's drive.

[Terror Lawan]

All right. Chargers at Broncos. Broncos are favored by 11 1/2 points here. Total points in this game is 36 1/2.

[Delaney Walker]

They favor because Justin Herbert's not playing their favorite quarterbacks.

[Will Compton]

They sitting everybody.

[Terror Lawan]

Chargers are sitting everybody.

[Delaney Walker]

Everyone.

[Clay Matthews]

Herbert was the only one keeping them in these games, being Superman out there without him.

[Terror Lawan]

Defense solid, too.

[Will Compton]

They got.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, they are solid, but if they're resting them as well.

[Will Compton]

They got the old Buddy, though, for 49ers quarterback, right? What's his name?

[Clay Matthews]

Kaepernick?

[Will Compton]

Lance. Trey Lance. I wouldn't be trying to get. I wouldn't be surprised if Jim Harbaugh went. Got.

[Terror Lawan]

You know, when. When Philip Riverside.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, hey, we crazy.

[Terror Lawan]

That household had to be pissed.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, we need to get Heather to. To Delaney's right hand now.

[Terror Lawan]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Do we need a little help?

[Terror Lawan]

Can we have Sonny move this stool?

[Clay Matthews]

How we looking?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's us.

[Terror Lawan]

Let me see. Let me get.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey. How dare you?

[Will Compton]

No, he was blowing my hands.

[Clay Matthews]

Feel upset.

[Will Compton]

He was blowing my hands. I'm like, yo, that's.

[Terror Lawan]

Come here.

[Clay Matthews]

Save it. Save it for the reveal.

[Will Compton]

Hey, that's how you got to do it.

[Terror Lawan]

That is insane.

[Will Compton]

You do an incredible job.

[Terror Lawan]

Oh, my God. Nuts.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, polish.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, just hit it with that.

[Clay Matthews]

I know.

[Will Compton]

Hit it with.

[Clay Matthews]

Gross.

[Will Compton]

Somebody watch. How do males look at their nails? How do. How do males.

[Clay Matthews]

This.

[Terror Lawan]

Now you go, no, like this. Then you see something. You see a closer look at that. Then you hit it with that.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, like this.

[Will Compton]

So which one is Sus? This or this?

[Terror Lawan]

This.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I was showing you.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, dad, you show them like this. Listen, you do whatever you want on this show. We support.

[Clay Matthews]

Friends are the allies of the show.

[Delaney Walker]

Yo, I like it.

[Clay Matthews]

It's friends.

[Terror Lawan]

You do it, then it.

[Will Compton]

It's actually sick as hell, though. I'll be honest. I can bust these.

[Terror Lawan]

I show you that middle finger, Daddy Bear.

[Will Compton]

I didn't see which one was which.

[Terror Lawan]

I suggested it in the last podcast.

[Will Compton]

One of y' all suggested it, and that's where I got the idea for Daddy Bear.

[Clay Matthews]

She went back. She went back, watched it.

[Delaney Walker]

This is Heather.

[Clay Matthews]

Heather, friend of the show.

[Delaney Walker]

That's incredible.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, you should have seen. She just looked over at her husband with the biggest smile. That was the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Will Compton]

I am dead right now.

[Terror Lawan]

You're not dead, dude, you just found the new you. Look at the way you're scrolling on your phone.

[Will Compton]

I can't be crazy. How am I supposed to scroll.

[Terror Lawan]

He's like, I'm dead right now. I'm dead.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, I'm dying today.

[Will Compton]

It's got oil.

[Terror Lawan]

Just. Hey, just take the under with this game and we'll move on. All right. Bears, your favorite. That's 11 and a half. Total points in the game is 36 and a half points.

[Will Compton]

Delaney.

[Clay Matthews]

We're back to the Broncos.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah. I'm taking under.

[Terror Lawan]

Taking the under 36.

[Will Compton]

I'm taking. Wait, did the line move?

[Delaney Walker]

36 and a half. What was that?

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah. No, I'm taking an under. No, these boys ain't playing nobody on the Chargers. I'm taking an under.

[Terror Lawan]

I can take the ball rock with that. 36 and a half.

[Delaney Walker]

I know I'm. And if the spread 2 is like 11 and a half. If, say the Broncos are just up 20 to 3 at halftime, like they're going to be getting the Broncos backups geared up, ready to go.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Just running.

[Delaney Walker]

Finish the game off.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. Then you have twos on twos. There should be more scoring taking place.

[Will Compton]

I don't think so.

[Delaney Walker]

I think it'll be uglier.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And you know, the Broncos is a second half team. I feel like they're going to start off slow. A lot of points, not no points. Going to really be getting put on the board in the second half. That's when they step up, put a few points on the board, but it's still going to be under.

[Terror Lawan]

I think the Broncos will be up in the first half. I think they will. I think they really start to let the foot off the gas like behalf. Start to mitigate reps. And then I see a backdoor covering happen with the Chargers. Some sneaky bullshit. Seven points at the end of the game. And for that reason, I'll take the Chargers plus eleven and a half.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, club, you can get on the FanDuel app, see what the first half number is.

[Clay Matthews]

This is what I was thinking, too.

[Delaney Walker]

Yay.

[Clay Matthews]

Start a first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter. Put that in a parlay.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Might not have it yet.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too early.

[Will Compton]

We.

[Delaney Walker]

That's when the. That's when they keep an eye on.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

That's one to keep an eye on big time.

[Terror Lawan]

So. All right. Where you going?

[Delaney Walker]

I'm going to go show these numbers that we got under. This seems like a prime.

[Will Compton]

It's a prime.

[Delaney Walker]

This seems like a prime. Delaney Walker, Clay Matthews, Broncos money line.

[Terror Lawan]

This is an Iowa number.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. This money.

[Will Compton]

It does, cuz. You see how bro.

[Clay Matthews]

My. This eleven and a half. Is wild. Like maybe minus six and a half.

[Will Compton]

Eleven and a half is right.

[Clay Matthews]

That's what I'm saying.

[Will Compton]

That's scary. I don't like those numbers.

[Clay Matthews]

But you see, he. He.

[Will Compton]

He wants us to jump on text.

[Clay Matthews]

He put it out on. That's a lot of work for 3.99. We're just about winning.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's it.

[Delaney Walker]

That, that right there, Broncos money line, that minus 820. That's something that lives in a Clay Matthews parlay.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes. It's just about nine other bets. And that just juices the odds right there because, you know, that's the closest thing to a guarantee.

[Will Compton]

I just think that stuff scares me because they sitting in the locker room and the reporters is like, how y' all feeling? You know, the Chargers ain't playing no one. And all y' all got about to go out there and play. You know, they in their head like, shit, we shouldn't be playing either. You know what I'm saying? You be getting that.

[Delaney Walker]

Cats get that.

[Will Compton]

They say they won't, but it happens.

[Clay Matthews]

They have to win this to keep the one seed. Denver.

[Terror Lawan]

Yes.

[Delaney Walker]

You're saying the backups don't care to play either.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

The Patriots starters.

[Terror Lawan]

Patriots beat Miami. Denver loses.

[Clay Matthews]

The Chargers, too.

[Will Compton]

Are y' all sitting out the Chargers? Sending all day people out. They say we in the playoffs. We don't care about getting a better seed. We in. We gonna win. We gonna get in and win.

[Delaney Walker]

But Broncos got to make sure they win because they win. They got the one seed.

[Will Compton]

They got the one seed. Yeah, but sometimes that buy hurts you too, though.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, but they're not thinking like that. Rest is great.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. You want the ones I'm all, You know, I was old. I'm old, right? I'm like, I don't want to buy. I want to keep going because if I take that buy.

[Delaney Walker]

So you want to lose the game if you're the Broncos?

[Will Compton]

I mean, I wouldn't. I never go out to lose, but yeah, I'll be whispering it. Hey, we should lose.

[Delaney Walker]

He said, I'm old. We don't need to buy a week.

[Terror Lawan]

Man, that is hilarious.

[Will Compton]

How to keep these legs fresh.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, maybe a simple little two leg parlay here. Broncos money line with the under.

[Clay Matthews]

That under, man.

[Terror Lawan]

The 36 and a half.

[Clay Matthews]

Kind of what I would do.

[Delaney Walker]

I know, but that's like a challenge.

[Clay Matthews]

I would do Broncos money line.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm with you. I heard.

[Clay Matthews]

I do Broncos money line. I tease that over, under to the 42 and a half and give me the under and then I'm taking first. First quarter, second quarter, third and fourth.

[Will Compton]

Broncos just Money line. No, no, the lead and a half right now.

[Clay Matthews]

Because they know I'm on to them, brother. They gotta wait.

[Terror Lawan]

They gotta hope I forget. Hope I forget.

[Will Compton]

I'm just saying.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

Actually, I tell you what. The Lions put me out this week. I had a. I had a juicy little three leg money line on Christmas day. The Eagles and the. Was it who. Who played the first game? Dallas.

[Will Compton]

Dallas.

[Clay Matthews]

Minus two and a half. I think they won by seven.

[Will Compton]

Seven I had.

[Clay Matthews]

Let's just fast forward to the last game. Minus six and a half, Eagles won or whomever won by seven. I'm just saying, I. I lost.

[Terror Lawan]

Trying to walk me through that. Sounds like you got hoes. We don't know how, but we. Sounds like you got.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

By the Lions when you're explaining that new Knives out movie. That's how I'm thinking it goes.

[Clay Matthews]

There's too many games.

[Terror Lawan]

You see the thing here is I got wolf ass four. But I lost.

[Delaney Walker]

The Eagles man screwed me. I know.

[Will Compton]

They played the Bills.

[Delaney Walker]

The Lions screwed the Eagles at last.

[Clay Matthews]

So many bets going out. So many. I'm sorry, the parlay.

[Will Compton]

William said Denver Moneyline in the under 36 and a half is plus 123. We go.

[Terror Lawan]

Okay. That's a nice little deal.

[Will Compton]

That's actually.

[Clay Matthews]

You want to do the halfs too? First half, second half.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm down to do that once those things come out for sure.

[Clay Matthews]

I like that.

[Terror Lawan]

So, hey, I'll jump before the show.

[Delaney Walker]

I'll do a little, you know, I'll take Uncle's money line. Under 36 and a half, plus 126.

[Terror Lawan]

123.

[Delaney Walker]

123.

[Terror Lawan]

That's nice. I wonder how the viewer follows this show.

[Delaney Walker]

They probably just.

[Will Compton]

They just be pausing. They go back, go back like, okay, I got it now. Be just saying anything.

[Delaney Walker]

Delaney out there talking about he whispered losing games a week.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, I can't bid on the Bronx.

[Delaney Walker]

As he's getting his nails painted. I'll be whispering to shit. This True Classic game of the week is brought to us by True Classic. We got the new Curve Pima shirts that are in the store right now. Find True Classic at Amazon and Costco, Sam's Club and Target nationwide or online at trueclassic.com Bussin' look good, feel good, play good. Let's get to the True Classic game of the week.

[Will Compton]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Terror Lawan]

All.

[Will Compton]

This is that classic 8VCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echoing drum beat Everybody showing that school pride. A game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just, just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Terror Lawan]

One in three people untreated just don't wake up. I may be the one in three.

[Clay Matthews]

It feels as if someone removed all my skin down to the muscle and covered me in a wool blanket.

[Will Compton]

All you want to do is find the magic wand that's going to take all of this away. We just couldn't find it.

[Clay Matthews]

She was screaming uncontrollably like she was in pain.

[Terror Lawan]

It was very, very clear that something was going wrong.

[Will Compton]

How do you fight an unknown enemy?

[Terror Lawan]

And I was walking back and I lost my vision. I did not know it was going to.

[Will Compton]

Nothing like that had ever happened to me before. Searching for clues while the clock ticks.

[Clay Matthews]

Doctors gave her a timeline of.

[Will Compton]

We don't think you'll have passed your 25th birthday. And the stakes couldn't be higher. I am not going to be okay.

[Delaney Walker]

If we're too late to help Rosie.

[Will Compton]

She's a mission. We have to get it done in time. For Rosie, I'm Lauren Bragg Pacheco, host of Symptomatic a medical mystery podcast. Listen to all new episodes wherever you get the stories that matter to you. The 2026 Chevy Equinox is more than an SUV. It's your Sunday tailgate and your parking.

[Delaney Walker]

Lot snack bar, your lucky jersey, your.

[Clay Matthews]

Chairs and your big cooler fit perfectly.

[Will Compton]

In your even bigger cargo space. And when it's go time, your 11.3-inch.

[Delaney Walker]

Diagonal touchscreen's got the playbook, the playlist.

[Terror Lawan]

And the tech to stay a step ahead.

[Clay Matthews]

It's more than an suv.

[Delaney Walker]

It's your Equinox Chevrolet.

[Will Compton]

Together, let's drive.

[Terror Lawan]

All right. True classic game of the week. Every Sunday's got games and one fits just right. This is the true classic game of the week. This is for the NFC North, AFC North. Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers. The winning in Ravens are favored minus three and a half. Total points in that game is 41 and a half under.

[Will Compton]

Oh, I'm sorry, guys. I was looking at her doing My nails.

[Delaney Walker]

This is winning in. This is a playoff game.

[Will Compton]

This is winning in. And I am going with the under, actually, to be honest with you. Great call, man. The Baltimore Ravens, those dudes, man, they hurt me last week. Obviously, I'm not thinking. Derrick Henry is about to have the game that he had four touchdowns. Four touchdowns.

[Delaney Walker]

We have over 200 yards.

[Will Compton]

Over 200 yards.

[Delaney Walker]

Fed him the rock like 30 sometimes.

[Will Compton]

I think he the first running back in NFL. NFL history to score four times in a game. Correct?

[Terror Lawan]

No.

[Clay Matthews]

No.

[Will Compton]

You sure?

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, I don't have to look.

[Will Compton]

I think he is. There's definitely been running backs that have scored four times in a game. Jamal Charles with the Christmas shoes, right? Yeah, yeah, that's right. No, I'm tripping, but yeah. Derrick Henry, beast. I didn't think he was going. They was going to give him the ball the way he did. He went out there, showed up the Steelers. Now, now with the Steelers, you gotta look at they losing a big piece receiver done for the season. Thank God he's still gonna get his guaranteed money. Thank you, Steelers, for doing that for my boy. So this game, I don't know, this is a game where I feel like either team can win this game. It's a flip of a coin. It's three.

[Delaney Walker]

What?

[Will Compton]

Three and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just gonna go under, man. I ain't gonna cap. I'm not really focused because.

[Clay Matthews]

Just shook.

[Will Compton]

I'm shook.

[Terror Lawan]

I appreciate you being honest.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Delaney. Delaney took all of the Unders. That Parlay together is plus 46.68 $10 to win. 466 dollars.

[Delaney Walker]

There you go. That's a mule right there.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I like that. If I wasn't getting my nails done, I'd be really excited about that.

[Terror Lawan]

But you're not sedated, you're just getting your nails done.

[Delaney Walker]

It just.

[Will Compton]

I don't know.

[Terror Lawan]

He's like coming out of anesthesia.

[Delaney Walker]

I am with you. Like this game to me is confusing just because it's like the Bears, they go on this three game win streak. They lose to the Browns last week. To the Browns, Ravens, they just put up over 40 points. And Derek Henry, like they're feeding him like the way you would assume that they were going to be feeding them all year. I know Huntley's in and I have no clue who's going to win this game.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, DK's, he has a second game suspension, correct?

[Will Compton]

Yes, correct.

[Terror Lawan]

So he's out.

[Will Compton]

He's out.

[Clay Matthews]

Darnell Washington breaks his reliable the whole Year.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, he's out.

[Clay Matthews]

And what's his name? Jalen Warren had 12 carries for 64 yards. They wanted to continue to pass it the whole game than they did. Just keep feeding him the rock, I think. I'm sorry, whoever I just toes I stepped on. But I think if you're going off your laugh your last game and you see the way the Ravens play in the momentum they have realizing, hey, if the Browns win, we got a chance. And now they get that opportunity to play the Steelers who are reeling just scoring six points against the Pounds. Now A Rod said, hey, they'll find a way. They always rise to the occasion. I know he will, but is there enough pieces on that team? I don't think T.J. watts going to be playing again. I just.

[Delaney Walker]

If you know A Rod's going to rise to the occasion, then he's going to rise to the occasion.

[Terror Lawan]

He can't do it all.

[Clay Matthews]

He can't do it all offensively.

[Delaney Walker]

If he is rising to the occasion.

[Will Compton]

He'S going to make.

[Delaney Walker]

Make something happen on offense. Can the Steelers defense stop Derek Henry in the run game?

[Will Compton]

No, no, not right now. With the way it looked all year.

[Terror Lawan]

We'Ve been talking about Derrick Henry and how they need to feed him the Rock more. He had the three fumbles in the first three games of the year. They kind of benched him for a minute or he was splitting carries like 60, 40, not him.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Now they go to these gotta have it moments. They give him the rock 36 times. Like they're going to do the same thing.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

And the more times you give him the ball, the more successful he's going to be with the Steelers lack of power on their offense. To me, this is a clear Ravens minus three and a half.

[Delaney Walker]

But this is it. If you're the Steelers, the money you got there on defense, they had a.

[Clay Matthews]

Chance last week to seal it. That was it.

[Delaney Walker]

But again, this is. This is. No matter what, this is it.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Delaney Walker]

This is for real it.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, for real it.

[Delaney Walker]

Like everybody was like, just in case.

[Clay Matthews]

We got to fall back, right?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Like two of them have a shot, they still have a shot. I'm not saying that was playing into them losing last week, but I'm saying we don't know if this Aaron Rodgers last season they brought him in here to go to the playoffs and go.

[Clay Matthews]

After the Super Bowl.

[Delaney Walker]

They're in the spot to make that happen. You get DK Metcalf back next week, when you go into the playoffs, who.

[Clay Matthews]

Would they be playing? So Whoever wins this game, who are they playing as the third?

[Will Compton]

Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Tbd.

[Delaney Walker]

I mean, they're going to be one and done right now. Right now where it's slotted, they'd be playing the Texans.

[Terror Lawan]

Done. Oh, give me the Ravens.

[Will Compton]

Looking for was Derek Henry's the first.

[Delaney Walker]

Running back to score four touchdowns for two different teams. Oh, first running back to score four touchdowns for two different teams.

[Will Compton]

Two different teams.

[Delaney Walker]

So you was on to something.

[Will Compton]

I was something. Yeah, you was on something.

[Terror Lawan]

You were on to something. I'll take the Ravens.

[Clay Matthews]

I like the Ravens. Should we see who Delaney picks?

[Delaney Walker]

Okay, I'll go Steelers. I'll go Steelers.

[Terror Lawan]

That's got to make you feel better. Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

For sure. Right?

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Because if we bet the same that, I ain't doing it no more.

[Terror Lawan]

I'm with you.

[Will Compton]

All right.

[Terror Lawan]

Bet the boys parlay. I will be taking CMC versus the Seahawks.

[Will Compton]

Derrick Henry. Y' all already know what time it is.

[Delaney Walker]

Jsn, Seattle.

[Terror Lawan]

Wow.

[Clay Matthews]

Give me Rico Dowdle against the Buccaneers.

[Terror Lawan]

All of his play.

[Will Compton]

Rico right there.

[Clay Matthews]

They got a lean on him.

[Will Compton]

They have.

[Clay Matthews]

The Bucks haven't stopped anybody in the last 10 weeks.

[Will Compton]

You know he going to get the ball. Rico getting the ball.

[Clay Matthews]

I thought he was gonna get the ball last week.

[Will Compton]

I know. That was crazy.

[Clay Matthews]

So now they gotta. They gotta recognize.

[Delaney Walker]

I think he was 7 yards and.

[Terror Lawan]

One touchdown for 1.25.

[Will Compton]

He's getting it. They gonna make sure he get it.

[Terror Lawan]

Week 18 is the most fun.

[Will Compton]

Oh no. He a cheapskate.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh my God.

[Will Compton]

He a cheap.

[Clay Matthews]

He a cheapskate cuz he a bomber type.

[Will Compton]

Like he will tell them not to give him the ball.

[Delaney Walker]

Get in there by the goal line.

[Will Compton]

Take out recall, Take him out.

[Clay Matthews]

Put in Chuba.

[Will Compton]

Yup. He would do that. I mean if. Yeah. If he get it and take it to the crib. You can't do nothing about it.

[Delaney Walker]

In the red zone though.

[Terror Lawan]

You might be right.

[Will Compton]

He may take him out. In the red zone.

[Delaney Walker]

Take him out. That's. That's Varsity Blues.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah, he.

[Will Compton]

He'd rather not pay you.

[Clay Matthews]

They'll do it again next year. Hey, did you guys lose? Hey, real quick. Did you guys lose any incentives. Did you have any incentives in your contract that you didn't make or. I gotta.

[Will Compton]

I. Well, I had a 35000 dress up clause.

[Clay Matthews]

So if you dressed up, you hit your incentive. Yeah, I had that too. That was. It was a 46 man game day.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Active.

[Clay Matthews]

They'd have. Let's just say it was like 500k. They'd split it over the 16 games. You just get paid. But I'm talking, like, incentive. Like, hey, if you don't give up. X amount of sacks, if you get 100 plus tackles. Oh, yeah, 10 touchdowns.

[Will Compton]

Well, see, the Titans would do. You got to be like, top five, top ten and receiving. Like, I had the whole. The receiver pretty much the. We had to be top 10 and receiving the whole squad, not just me. I had to have. I always got the catches, so I had to have, like, over 70 catches. I always got. That was easy.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. How much money was that, though? Like 250.

[Will Compton]

250. Then a thousand. The thousand was 475. And then, oh, Pro bowl was 50,000.

[Delaney Walker]

But you.

[Clay Matthews]

That.

[Terror Lawan]

You get that for making the Pro Bowl. Everybody gets that.

[Will Compton]

No, you get incentives for your team.

[Clay Matthews]

If you make the Pro bowl in your contract. The Titans may have put that in his contract.

[Will Compton]

In my contract program where he makes.

[Clay Matthews]

It, he gets an extra 50k. He does get paid for winning or not winning.

[Will Compton]

So.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, were you on your rookie contract when you were making it?

[Terror Lawan]

Both.

[Clay Matthews]

Once you started rolling, they're like, we ain't putting that in there. That's just easy money.

[Will Compton]

So I didn't go one year. And then they put it in sim. Like, if you go. Cause Jerrell came to me, he was like, oh, let's not be alternates. We should have been.

[Terror Lawan]

I. I was literally right next to y' all for that conversation. I'm thinking to myself, that's so dumb, because it's like, if you have a chance to make a Pro bowl as an alternate and usually your first year balling out, you don't make it. You don't make it because they give it to somebody. But the next year, if you have a similar year, you'd go again. But to me, it's like, at the end of the day, like, if you're an alternate and a guy drops out and you can go in, he says you're a Pro Bowl.

[Clay Matthews]

Did he not go?

[Will Compton]

We didn't.

[Terror Lawan]

They didn't go, brother.

[Clay Matthews]

My first year, Lance. It was Lance Briggs, DeMarcus Ware, and Brian Arakpo.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And Lance Briggs backed out and not 2009 Pro Bowl.

[Will Compton]

Well, I didn't. To be fair, I didn't take the alternate. I was mad, too. Jarrell's mad. If you look at that year, we both.

[Delaney Walker]

We.

[Will Compton]

Every tight end that went, I have more catches, more yards, they have more touchdowns.

[Terror Lawan]

This is 2015, right?

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

I have more.

[Terror Lawan]

That's because we were 3 and 13.

[Will Compton]

My pride.

[Delaney Walker]

Your pride out of you could have been a four time Pro Bowl.

[Terror Lawan]

I know. I'm sitting there. It was my. It was my second year and I really. Delaney was ball. They were our two best players on the team and they're talking about not going to Pro Bowl. I'm thinking to my. I'm like not saying a word. I'm thinking these gotta go.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Like yeah, we should have win.

[Terror Lawan]

Right?

[Will Compton]

That was your first one.

[Terror Lawan]

Like even Jell's first one too.

[Delaney Walker]

All the Taylor, all the hall of Fame nominees you're going to have and it's going to be three time Pro Bowler test four. I know you was mad they didn't pick you first.

[Will Compton]

I know. But then the next year I. They picked my ass because they. We made us think about it.

[Terror Lawan]

Well, no.

[Will Compton]

And then you had a good year.

[Delaney Walker]

So you're on everybody's radar.

[Terror Lawan]

You had a great season the next year. But we also went from three and 13 after being two and 14 and then went nine and seven. Eight guys made the Pro Bowl.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, eight guys that next year Rack was in there.

[Terror Lawan]

It was UB Rack. Brett Kern.

[Will Compton]

Brett Kern. Jerrell. Casey Jarell.

[Terror Lawan]

Casey DeMarco Murray.

[Will Compton]

DeMarco Murray. Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

We had like a little squad.

[Will Compton]

We had a squad.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

It was nice to answer your question though. No, no incentives.

[Terror Lawan]

No, I never had.

[Clay Matthews]

I lost.

[Delaney Walker]

Mine was like, hey, you might be able to make the team next year.

[Terror Lawan]

Year.

[Delaney Walker]

My a. The performance bonus checks though because like you guys would have like the incentives in your contract. So your performance number like super low at the end of the year. It'd be super low.

[Terror Lawan]

It's also like years in and your contract size. So if your contract size is bigger and you play lower, like if you and I both play 30,000 snaps, your number is going to be way higher. As if you're. Unless your contract is. If your contract is.

[Clay Matthews]

So if Will was making league minimum and he played, let's just say like 99.

[Delaney Walker]

My rookie contract when I would. When I got to play, dude, I was fired. I was number one or two on the team in performance bonus.

[Will Compton]

What was your performance bonus?

[Delaney Walker]

It was over four. Damn.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that was one of the top. Right.

[Delaney Walker]

And I was like.

[Terror Lawan]

I had the most ever made was.

[Delaney Walker]

Like 69 of the start my first year when I only played. I was activated that last game of the season and I just played special teams. So I had like, I don't know, five or six plays. I had like in the teens performance bonus and I was so fired the Fuck up. Like, yo, I got, like 15 grand just to go in there for six plays just to hit a couple punt sets. And I'm like, hey, what's his performance bonus? They're like, oh, you know, guys who don't have the bigger contracts or you're on a rookie deal or minimum, whatever it is. Like, anytime you're on the field, you'll get much more of the percentage of the bucket that the NFLPA has set aside from performance bonus. When I started, like, my performance bonus was, I was like, oh, that's when I went and got the. The truck in cash. I was like, oh, I'm getting me a truck now. This Hyundai Sonata.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Hey, no. Cats used to live for those player bonuses. When I first got.

[Terror Lawan]

I remember when we would do, like, a victory formation. I would have, like, like, young cats, like rookies, be like, hey, let me go in for rookie. I'm like, what?

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, yeah, field goal. Hey, Clay, you gotta. I gotta go. Get me right on this performance.

[Terror Lawan]

I think to myself, this is insane.

[Delaney Walker]

You just be out there, just in your linebacker sash, look up, see the extra point go in.

[Will Compton]

That's why I jog off the field.

[Delaney Walker]

Be like, boom, Performance.

[Will Compton]

That's why I never went in on victory. I was never in on victory. Watch it. I always put all the tight ends in. I'm like. I used. I told them, like, hey, all the tight ends going on victory, let them get plays. We didn't do it all a lot, but when we did, they got in.

[Terror Lawan]

I used to get so high, like, when people would have incentives in the contract, I. I was kind of jealous. I never had one incentive in my contract other than the classic, like, OTAS workout, just for showing up. Yeah, but when guys would have like a. Like, we get, like, 16, 17, 18 weeks, and guys would have, like, I need, like, this many catches or whatever. I'm like, man, it must be so fun and, like, so much anxiety for them. Yeah, I need to get this because.

[Will Compton]

You be thinking about it, like.

[Delaney Walker]

But would you want a incentive for, like, an old lineman? I would assume what the incentive would be like, hey, don't give up three sacks or something like that.

[Terror Lawan]

You're just gonna be living in your.

[Delaney Walker]

Head the whole year.

[Terror Lawan]

Because you can argue. You can argue sacks, like, cover. You think that's covered sack or like, hey, this guy touched him first. There's a lot of, like, argumentative stuff. Yeah, it would be like, weight, percentage of snaps, starts.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

So that would kind of be like your basic.

[Will Compton]

What are, like, run game, top If y'.

[Delaney Walker]

All.

[Will Compton]

The run game was, like, in the top five, top ten, I would think.

[Terror Lawan]

I. I just don't remember there ever being, like, team stats.

[Will Compton]

Did you ever read it and just know that you had a incentive?

[Terror Lawan]

I had great agents that walked me through the whole thing.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Terror Lawan]

We sat there and I was like.

[Will Compton]

See my agent be like, hey, they put this in there for catches. They put this in here for what you think? And I'm like, catches? Let's do 70. He like, they ain't gonna do 70. You been getting 70 every year. You gotta go up a little bit. I'm like, fuck it, 80. He like, you sure?

[Terror Lawan]

I'm like, see, if I was you, I would put some. A crazy number up there and with a big dollar sign.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, but I gotta be. I gotta think about how our team was and how we were throwing the ball at the time. And then when AJ Came, I started thinking, like, okay, AJ May take reps away from me in the passing game. So I moved it down even more because I was coming off the injury, too. And I had to say all I had to do was make it to eight games, and I couldn't even do that. I was going to get a bonus because they had an eight game for me. Because after coming from.

[Delaney Walker]

Broken leg.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, broken leg. And I made it to five. Like, fuck, they was right.

[Terror Lawan]

You know what Alex thought was super sneaky is, like, guys like Ben Jones, who, like the last three years I played with him, like, every camp, he would come in at some point. Camp, like, just re signed.

[Will Compton]

I know.

[Terror Lawan]

And he'd make, like an extra couple million bucks just, like, under the radar.

[Will Compton]

Well.

[Delaney Walker]

Cause he.

[Will Compton]

He was the one of the best centers in the game. Like, let's just be honest. Our team got better when Ben came. I'm gonna just be honest.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And every year, a center will, like, become the highest paid. And he'd be.

[Clay Matthews]

He.

[Will Compton]

He'd be like, I don't want to be the highest paid, but I need to be close.

[Terror Lawan]

Right? He was always, like, just out of the top five.

[Will Compton]

Just at the top five. They would do that every year because they like, yo, you better. Definitely, you better.

[Terror Lawan]

It was like a great old school.

[Delaney Walker]

Your cousin. Yeah. Jake.

[Clay Matthews]

Jake. Yeah. I don't know how much he's making. He's making a lot, though.

[Terror Lawan]

He's making a lot.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

But kind of staying out of this fear of.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. He's probably, what, five to ten somewhere in there.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Out of the sphere.

[Clay Matthews]

Stay under the radar.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Once you start getting the top three?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's.

[Terror Lawan]

He was top three in 2018.

[Clay Matthews]

I think he made a Pro bowl right around then.

[Terror Lawan]

No, that was his contract year.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. When you. When you, like Taylor, you the number one dog. You gotta perform at a high level.

[Terror Lawan]

Are they o. Yo, catch a little knee. Am I good? You're a solid catch knee again. Like, it's over. Come out back, big dog.

[Will Compton]

When you leading, the eyes are on your ass.

[Clay Matthews]

I know.

[Terror Lawan]

It's nice, dude.

[Will Compton]

It's nice for a while.

[Terror Lawan]

That is great. Until the wings melt. You're plumbing towards Earth, being like, at least I got to get up here. Yeah, plumb it. Good show.

[Delaney Walker]

Great show.

[Clay Matthews]

How we looking? Are we looking?

[Will Compton]

We almost done. Almost done.

[Clay Matthews]

We need to keep this going.

[Will Compton]

Y' all still got to do the reads.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. What was your incentive story?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I was just gonna let it ride. No, so. So my last. My last year in la, like, incentives go to old heads. Like me, I. And 19. When I was playing for the Rams, it was a sacking center. So if I got. If I got eight and a half sacks. If I got, like, three sacks, it was 256 sacks. It was 500.

[Will Compton]

Eight and a half.

[Clay Matthews]

It was 750.

[Will Compton]

Damn.

[Clay Matthews]

And I finished the season at eight sacks, and I actually had eight and a half. And Aaron Donald reported the sack we shared together for against. It was like, for a safety against the Steelers. So they gave it all to him, and I lost 250.50k.

[Will Compton]

No talk to him about that.

[Clay Matthews]

But I. I heard him talk about it, like, on one of his podcasts, where he's like, I came in on Monday. I was like, yo, bro, they took my sack away. And everyone was like, oh, man, that's.

[Will Compton]

That's messed up.

[Terror Lawan]

He gave to you what club did to Delaney.

[Will Compton]

Like, hey, I'm in there telling everybody I'm a painter to him after the show. I'm like, yeah, I'm paying them after the show.

[Clay Matthews]

AD was getting 20 sacks a year. I'm like, you couldn't hook your boy up with. So I lost 250k. And then the organization wouldn't give it to me either.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's the Rams.

[Clay Matthews]

We were talk. Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

You know, Clay went into that office, too, mad as hell when he said the organization didn't give it either, brother. You know, Clay was in there, or.

[Terror Lawan]

At the very least, bitching with his wife. Bitching. Wants the kids go to sleep for weeks on end. She's thinking, all right, we've talked.

[Clay Matthews]

No, but you had talked about stressing for It. So we were playing Kyler Murray in week 17 at home. I got a rough in the. It was fourth quarter. I was stressing for that sack to get that money. I got a rough in the passer penalty on the final drive. I was like, we didn't make the playoffs, and I didn't get my money.

[Terror Lawan]

Do you have a playoff bonus other than the one that everyone gets? Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

If you were to win.

[Will Compton]

Yes.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. It would be like 250 for playoffs, 500 for NFL.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you had it, bro.

[Terror Lawan]

No, you. Dude, that is. You have to negotiate your contract.

[Clay Matthews]

Forget all that. But when I'm on the. When I'm on my way out, you're.

[Terror Lawan]

On the way out.

[Clay Matthews]

It was like, hey, how can we get you some money?

[Will Compton]

But yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. And then so after the season, I. I was feeling good. I'm like, I come back, do this again. Hey, Clay, it's Coach McVeigh. We're going to have to let you and girly go. I was like, oh, all right. Bet, Covid.

[Delaney Walker]

Don't you.

[Terror Lawan]

He's finally getting over the sack thing. Walks into the kitchen. His wife's like, what now? And it's just McVeigh.

[Will Compton]

Do you think it's because the older you get, they try to get you to play a little harder? So they put this in and say, because I feel like they.

[Clay Matthews]

They're not going to offer you as much money. So they, like.

[Will Compton]

They try to appeal to you, like.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, how can you earn that money back? But they. If they. They're not. They don't have to pay you if you don't hit it.

[Will Compton]

If you don't hit it.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And they don't have to pay you. But if not, it just. It's just a little incentive. Just a little incentive.

[Will Compton]

No. Yeah. I kind of was feeling a certain way because in the beginning of my last year against the Browns, I went nuts. Got two touchdowns, had, like, eight catches. And then I'm like, okay, I'm about to hit my stride. And then every week, let's play. Let's play less, play less. I'm like, damn, I'm getting like, 20 snaps a game. What the fuck going on? You know? And then they told me, well, we just trying to get John U.

[Terror Lawan]

Going.

[Will Compton]

We don't want you to get hurt. You know, I seen John was going off, too. John was going off. Then I wasn't dressing up. I'm like, 35,000 gone.

[Delaney Walker]

Healthy scratch.

[Will Compton]

Healthy scratch. And then I go tell. I told Arthur, like, yo, I'm pissed. I'm in me not talking. They asking me questions. I don't say no. I'm just looking. Me know. He like, what's wrong, man? They ain't like you to be like this while, you know, in front of everybody. I said, man, y' all costing me money. He like, what you mean? I said, when I don't suit up, I don't get my money. He like, why you didn't tell me that? If you would have told me that, I would have never not told them not to dress you. I'm like, why the fuck I'm not dressing anyway, like.

[Delaney Walker]

Cause we.

[Will Compton]

It's hard run week, you know, we don't want you to put a lot of pressure on your legs and stuff like that.

[Terror Lawan]

Yeah. Always serve it up as something for you.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I'm like, man, hell no. Just suit my ass up. And then I fucked up. Remember? I suited up one game, did two plays, and got hurt.

[Clay Matthews]

This is why we kept you.

[Delaney Walker]

We don't want you to hear that. No, suit my ass up.

[Will Compton]

You got suit up two plays.

[Terror Lawan]

Garrett just said this in the group chat. Saquon Barkley needs 87 total yards for $250,000. Sam Darnold needs three passing touchdowns for 500,000. And he also needs 150 passing yards for another 500,000.

[Will Compton]

God damn.

[Terror Lawan]

Tony Pollard needs 66 rush yards for 250,000. Two TDs for 200,000. Keenan Allen needs six catches for $750,000.

[Clay Matthews]

Damn.

[Terror Lawan]

Nine receiving yards for an additional 250,000. And two TDs for another two hundred and fifty. So Keenan Allen's looking at possible.

[Clay Matthews]

Was it Keenan Allen last year who they went to, like, who got all these bonuses? They went to him in week 17.

[Will Compton]

Oh, they went. They kept going to him.

[Terror Lawan]

Was that Mike Evans?

[Clay Matthews]

They did go to Mike Evans. I think it was Keenan Allen, too. It was Keenan Allen.

[Will Compton]

Keenan Allen.

[Clay Matthews]

You have to check that up. It was Keenan Allen as well, but Mike Evans got in week 17 as well. I was fired up for him at home.

[Terror Lawan]

The whole team lost their mind because.

[Will Compton]

He got his catch and then he got off the field. I remember that.

[Delaney Walker]

Just one catch.

[Will Compton]

That little slap. Yeah. Yeah. He just like, I'm done.

[Terror Lawan]

Stefan Diggs, he needs eight catches for 500, 000. We already talked about Rico.

[Clay Matthews]

Thank you.

[Terror Lawan]

Dawson Knox, one TD for 100,000, seven receiving yards.

[Will Compton]

Thank you so much.

[Terror Lawan]

The hunter Henry needs five catches for 250.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, boys.

[Terror Lawan]

Done. Still holding it that way. Yeah. What do you think? Well, let me take a peek.

[Delaney Walker]

We got Daddy Bear, bear, bear down. Caleb with a heart. Number 18.

[Terror Lawan]

That is beautiful, man.

[Delaney Walker]

That's great.

[Terror Lawan]

You kind of mess with it a little bit, don't you?

[Will Compton]

It looks good, man. I'm not going to remove them until they start chipping.

[Delaney Walker]

He's gonna be. I gotta go get my nails done.

[Terror Lawan]

Hey, you're the best. Thank you.

[Delaney Walker]

Thank you, Heather.

[Terror Lawan]

Thank you, Heather.

[Will Compton]

Thank God I ain't gotta go nowhere but home.

[Clay Matthews]

I was like, oh, keep me still.

[Will Compton]

All right.

[Delaney Walker]

Hell of a show.

[Terror Lawan]

Thank you guys. Please subscribe and leave comments. Big hugs, tiny kisses. We'll see in the playoffs.

[Will Compton]

All right. You can find me on Instagram at heathernicknails. That's Heather N I K K Nails. And I'm also at Miramir Hair Salon in Rivergate. Awesome.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Terror Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Terror Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Delaney Walker]

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[Terror Lawan]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Terror Lawan]

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