NFL Week 18 Reaction: Playoff Preview + MVP Debate: Drake Maye Vs. Matthew Stafford | Bussin’

Summary

Bussin' With The Boys – NFL Week 18 Reaction, Playoff Preview & MVP Debate

Podcast: Bussin’ With The Boys
Episode: NFL Week 18 Reaction: Playoff Preview + MVP Debate: Drake Maye Vs. Matthew Stafford
Date: January 5, 2026
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan, and guests

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers an energetic, passionate breakdown of NFL Week 18, sets the stage for the playoffs, and dives deep into the league’s current MVP race—Drake Maye vs. Matthew Stafford. The boys analyze the state and momentum of playoff teams, discuss key games and players, debate the “momentum” theory, and give their takes on controversial NFL awards and records. Along the way, they mix serious analysis with their signature banter and plenty of memorable moments.

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Key Discussion Points

1. NFL Week 18 Reactions: Surprises & Standouts

• Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Ravens ([03:03])
  • Debate over which team deserved to win; hosts felt the "lesser" Steelers might be a quick out (“one and done”).
  • Quote: “Does anybody disagree that we feel like the Steelers are probably going to be one and done?” – Host 1 (04:06)
• Steelers Playoff Outlook ([04:19])
  • Texans matchup preview: mixed opinions, with Host 1 feeling Houston’s defense poses major problems.
  • Texans’ defense praised: “I personally feel like Texans have too much at all three levels defensively for the. For Pittsburgh to get a whole lot going, possibly not cross the 50.” – Host 1 (05:35)
• Aaron Rodgers Discussion ([04:32])
  • Quick aside admiring Rodgers’s “magic” but acknowledging tough times ahead against strong defenses.

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2. Playoff Previews: Team-by-Team Momentum Rankings

NFC Momentum Rankings ([17:54] – [32:28])

• Seattle Seahawks: Unanimously considered top momentum team in the NFC.

  • “Seattle’s got all the momentum. Chicago’s got momentum.” – Host 2 (28:23)

• Ladder of teams from highest to lowest: Seattle, Rams, Bears, 49ers, Eagles, Green Bay, Carolina.

  • Philly & San Francisco: Both scrutinized for injuries, recent losses, and pressure; dialogue around whether Eagles are “just going to flip the switch” in the playoffs ([24:24]).
  • Philly’s tough crowd and pressure: “How tight are the Philadelphia Eagles, their fans, their stadium, that city?” – Host 1 (23:47)

• Memorable exchange:

  • Host 2: “Are we all of a sudden just going to believe that the offense is going to come alive just because now we’re in playoff mode? No.” (24:24)

AFC Momentum Rankings ([36:02] – [38:57])

• Will’s picks for most momentum:
  7. Pittsburgh
  6. Chargers
  5. Bills
  4. Houston
  3. Denver
  2. Jacksonville

  1. New England Patriots

• Jaguars get special mention for the culture giving Trevor Lawrence a grill as a “massive” momentum play ([39:33])

• Patriots praised: “I think the team that’s going to represent the AFC is going to be between the Jacksonville Jaguars and the New England Patriots, period.” – Host 2 (39:19)

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3. Debates, Deep Dives, & Memorable Moments

NFC Hosting Rules ([48:01])

• Critical look at sub-.500 division winners (like Panthers) hosting 12–win teams.
  • “Should a team that goes below .500 be able to host a playoff game?” – Host 1 (48:05)
  • General agreement: time to consider reseeding by record.

Bears-Packers Playoff Potential ([29:14] – [32:20])

• Anticipation for the fanbase reaction if Bears beat Green Bay.
  • Quote: “I would almost just sit back with some popcorn to just watch it kind of go down.” – Host 2 (29:28)

Mike Vrabel vs. Jim Harbaugh – "Who Wins the Fight?" ([07:57] – [09:48])

• Playful debate over which current coach would win a real fight—full of inside jokes and personal experience.
  • “The fight would last at least 12 hours. Yeah. Because there’s no way Harbaugh’s giving up.” – Host 2 (08:03)

NFL MVP Debate: Drake Maye vs. Matthew Stafford ([67:02] - [74:19])

• Intense breakdown of each candidate’s merits.
  • Host 2: “Drake Maye is the most valuable player in the NFL and especially for his team.” (70:29)
  • Host 1: “But the 15 more touchdowns is where I just [lean Stafford]… If you throw both the stat sheets up... you’re gonna pick Stafford every single time.” (73:28)
  • Statistical deep-dive from Host 2, pointing to Maye’s historic efficiency and turnaround for New England.
• Lighthearted MMA comparison:
  • Host 1: “Drake Maye’s bodying old man Stafford.”
  • Host 2: “He’s got like that Superman element, he can do everything.” (73:17)

Miles Garrett Sack Record ([61:26] – [63:58])

• Heated defense of Garrett’s new single-season sacks record as “monumental,” especially since the Browns rarely play with a lead.
  • “Possibly the greatest rusher that we will ever see.” – Host 2 (61:37)
  • “He’s an alien. He’s got a pipe on him, too.” – Hosts (62:14)

Tear Talk Segments & Listener Q&A ([50:04] – [66:53])

• Raiders: Should they draft a QB or build depth with more picks? Consensus: QB is essential if the right guy is there ([50:42])
• “Clean take” and “dirty take” banter sprinkled throughout; praised for audience engagement.

Playing "Meaningless" Games ([58:51])

• Personal anecdotes about the difficulty, or lack thereof, of playing late-season games with no playoff stakes. Ultimately, it's about “putting good stuff on tape” for next year.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Philly crowd pressure:
  “They're not greasing up the polls, they're greasing up Sirianni.” – Host 1 (24:03)

• On the moment Drake Maye became MVP-worthy:
  “There’s only been three quarterbacks all-time to lead the NFL in yards per attempt and completion percentage: Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, and now it’s Drake Maye.” – Host 2 (70:07)

• On the playoff "momentum" myth:
  “What stalls momentum? Time. That’s what I’m saying.” – Host 1 (13:51)

• On the Raiders’ QB draft strategy:
  “If you could have a great team, if you don’t have a quarterback, you’re going nowhere.” – Host 1 (53:07)

• On watching the Bears possibly upset Green Bay:
  “I would almost just sit back with some popcorn to just watch it kind of go down.” – Host 2 (29:28)

• On the timeless appeal of fiction books:
  “You just get like a little movie in your head. You just lock in.” – Host 4 (57:18)

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Special Segments

Jim Beam “Taste of the Offseason” ([75:02])

• Pouring one out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, reflecting on Baker Mayfield’s storybook season and Levante David’s illustrious but underappreciated career as a possible future Hall of Famer.

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Closing Thoughts

• The show ended with hope and humor for several franchise fan bases and a passionate case for Levante David’s Hall of Fame credentials.
• Next episode preview: Utah’s Kyle Whittingham and Kevin Byard will join the show.

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Episode Takeaways

• The playoff field is as wide open as it’s been, with the Seahawks and Patriots described as high-momentum dark horses.
• MVP race will come down to narrative vs. stat sheet (Maye’s impact vs. Stafford’s numbers).
• The “momentum” conversation remains both a running joke and a real analytical lens for the boys.
• Miles Garrett’s new sack record should be celebrated—regardless of the extra game.
• Raiders fans: QB above all, but your roster needs everything.
• Levante David deserves way more Hall of Fame hype.

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For fans of high-energy, genuine NFL talk, sharp opinions, and inside-the-league perspective—this episode is a playoff primer must-listen.

Transcript

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[Host 2]

Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This is our football weekend recap. The playoffs are set. I'm sure we will talk about all the teams have to all the teams that have momentum.

[Host 1]

We'll sprinkle because there is the locker room that takes place every Thursday morning.

[Host 2]

Wednesday. Thursday morning.

[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

NFL crazy game last night with the Steelers and the Ravens. I know and I think the the worst team loss, the lesser team lost that game.

[Host 2]

The lesser team, the lesser team, the right team won that game.

[Host 1]

You're right. I put you know what? Flip that. The lesser team won that game. I believe that and I think that just because I think if you were looking at both these teams and how they're all they're built, I believe the Ravens had a better chance to make a stronger push in the playoffs and the Steelers would. Obviously they were losing DK Metcalf. They didn't have DK Metcalf. They'll get him back for the playoffs. So that might be a big turnaround for them. But just the inconsistencies, obviously the Ravens have had that, but they started to establish more of a run game. Lamar Jackson, I thought looked really good coming out. He had some really nice touches on some pass wearing the rib cage set up. He looked good, a little more mobile, a little more healthy. So I just felt the Ravens could win this game. They had a better chance for us to be like, okay, I think they're going to make a bigger push. But going into these playoffs, Steelers could be a one and done for the boys right there. And I don't, I'm not hating. They have a great squad. They made the playoffs clearly. But does anybody disagree that we feel like the Steelers are probably going to be one and done?

[Host 2]

Feels like a one and done.

[Host 1]

It feels like a one undone. It's a tune up. Who they play, who they, who they getting dialed in with, team they're going to lose to.

[Host 3]

All right, I Thought you had the team.

[Host 1]

We know ball. Yeah. They play the Texans. You don't.

[Host 2]

So was I wrong?

[Host 1]

No. No.

[Host 3]

I'll take the Steelers over the Texans.

[Host 2]

You'll take Sealers over Texas.

[Host 3]

Aaron Rodgers showed that magic last night. Again, like he had the ball. It was. It was vintage. Aaron Rodgers drives down the field, ties the game or takes.

[Host 2]

He has those moments for sure. But that Texans defense, now, as long as you delete the memory of them just playing the Colts because Riley Leonard.

[Host 3]

Went off on that defense, I think it's a good game for the Steelers. I like the Steelers. C.J. stroud sometimes has some stinkers, too, so.

[Host 1]

I see. I'm not worried. Like, I think that first off, I don't know what the total in that game is. I'm already taking the under in that game. But, you know, Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter on the. On the edge. It's going to be very, very stressful for Aaron Rodgers to sit there in the pocket and be able to throw the ball. It'll remind me a lot of, like the Browns, how they played the Browns. Was it last week, two weeks ago, when they, when they were playing, they were more focused on getting away from that pass rush as they were trying to win that game.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Could be stressful for Stroud, too, though.

[Host 2]

Highsmith was going crazy last night.

[Host 1]

I've been telling you boys.

[Host 2]

Have I not told you boys Walt was coming alive.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Had that pick there, that nice pick that just fit in the old bread basket.

[Host 1]

Yeah. No, I like. I like.

[Host 2]

I personally feel like Texans have too much at all three levels defensively for the. For Pittsburgh to get a whole lot.

[Host 1]

Going, possibly not cross the 50. That's the kind of defense we might.

[Host 2]

Be looking at, a game like that at Aaron Rodgers. Hope you'd heard that.

[Host 1]

Listen, a huge fan of Aaron. Huge fan of Aaron.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Love. Love the kiss blowing by Tomlin.

[Host 1]

Love all of that. I just. Friend of the show. I just feel like this is. This is where the buck stops and it stops here.

[Host 2]

I'm more so excited to see. To kind of watch the Jersey Jerry's of the world, the Pittsburgh fans, the content that's going to come from this game, especially if they do lose.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 2]

You see who's the comedian that does the Raven? Stavi. Stavi, baby getting in the shower. He said fire them all. Let's get Joe Flacco in there. Yeah. GM Maybe the court.

[Host 1]

He's always. He always has nice little things after the Ravens lose.

[Host 2]

Something about that Joe Flacco said shouldn't Aaron Rodgers be in a dark room trying to figure out if he's not gay or not.

[Host 1]

Did.

[Host 2]

He is.

[Host 1]

He is extremely funny with those things. One dude, one game that I'm really looking forward to is Patriots and the Chargers.

[Host 2]

Patriots, man.

[Host 1]

I don't know. Jesse Minters defense, he always keeps quarterbacks at like a QBR of like in the 60s. Right. He has a way of neutralizing offenses. And I just feel like Herbert. There's got to be a time that Herbert gets a playoff game. The. The not winning playoff games off of his back.

[Host 2]

Right. The talent that everybody talks about it being.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Arguably in the top five. Always in the top ten. But if. If he's going to get over that hump. Like this is a step. Yeah, this is clearly a step. You have to get a playoff game under your belt to start. Not being labeled as more of like the Lamar Jackson Field. That box you kind of get put in.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And the Patriots, they don't have like a outstanding pass rush. So you don't worry about the tackles being hurt there.

[Host 2]

Jim injury.

[Host 3]

No, no, no, no.

[Host 1]

You got one. You got one rusher. You got one rusher. That's great. But you can, you can neutralize one rusher, no problem. But you got. You need help. You need game stunts. Blitz is coming. I just think about a Jim Harbaugh who's praying for snowfall. He's the only coach that lives in California. He's the only person lives in California going to somewhere. But I hope to God it's freezing outside. That's the type of cat that they're looking forward to playing. You know, run the ball a little bit.

[Host 2]

You talk about Harbaugh.

[Host 1]

Yeah, listen, I mean Mike Vrabel, Mike Rabel, stud.

[Host 3]

They might fight at midfield.

[Host 1]

Do you think they could. Do you think. Who do you think would win that fight?

[Host 2]

It would. I'll tell you this. The fight would last at least 12 hours. Yeah. Because there's no way Harbaugh's giving up.

[Host 1]

He's not like Vrabel clearly has his.

[Host 2]

Life in 10 minutes. Under 10 minutes.

[Host 1]

Hey, that ain't Braver's body. That's AI.

[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

And also I don't know if we have the clip we're gonna post in the YouTube of me. I filmed him one time in the Titans weight room punching bag a couple times. Not a lot of power.

[Host 2]

That's him just working on.

[Host 1]

Not a lot of power when he's throwing them.

[Host 2]

Endurance. Yeah. He's pacing. He's pacing.

[Host 1]

He acts like it. I'm sure Vrael's a guy that acts like he's got seven brothers, but it's.

[Host 2]

Really an only child. Mike, we're just joking around over here.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he's Vince Vaughn's brothers in four Christmases when they go in the Phoenix or whatever their names, they're pinned to the ground. Google me. Yeah, that's raves. This is it right here. You tell me that's knocking out Jim Har.

[Host 2]

He's just working out right there. He's just working out right there.

[Host 1]

Hey, do me a favor. Dust off your knees a little bit and talk a little ball, huh?

[Host 2]

I am, bro.

[Host 1]

We know is going to see this.

[Host 2]

I'm Letting you know VRA would end this man in under 10 minutes. Will, would you beat Vrael in a fight? Yeah, no question. He's too old.

[Host 1]

Even with the length.

[Host 2]

Yeah, he's too feeble. You know what I mean? Even with your length, I'd get on the inside. You ever seen Mike Tyson?

[Host 1]

I seen Mike Tyson. Douglas, I know you're not either of those cats.

[Host 2]

Mike Tyson, Buster Douglas.

[Host 1]

No disrespect.

[Host 2]

Douglas did win that fight.

[Host 3]

Are you picking Vrabel, Coach, you played for over Jim Harbaugh.

[Host 2]

Yeah. In a fight, who are you picking out? A Harbaugh.

[Host 1]

So hard to say, man. It's so hard to say because when I look at Vrabel's punches, not a lot of power behind that. I can see Harbaugh hitting a Homer Simpson type of fight where he just keeps taking on the chin over and over again until Vrabel tires himself out and falls down and then hardballs on top of them.

[Host 3]

Who would you rather play for?

[Host 1]

Oh, vapes. I played for rapes, rather.

[Host 2]

Taylor's not picking braves because brave. Brave daddy's Taylor. That's all that is.

[Host 1]

Hey, we're in the same group chat.

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[Host 2]

You know, I'll. I'll embrace it. I'm picking my guy braves in a fight against Harbaugh.

[Host 3]

Against that.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

You're picking that to lose, right?

[Host 2]

Say hide and seek, bro.

[Host 1]

What the does that mean?

[Host 2]

It means a Harbaugh is like the goat at hide and seek since he hid for in the his little house. There's like that story where he hid for what, eight hours where he's like, laying down the chairs under the table.

[Host 1]

Yeah, listen, probably in a fight, you give the edge of Rabel, but something about them Chargers against. Against the page. Everyone's hating on the Patriots. Their schedule was easy. A Whole bunch of stuff. I don't know who I'm taking this game. I actually started this conversation with.

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[Host 1]

This is one of the games I'm most excited for because I think it's going to be a little, little bit of fight.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Jesse. Men's defense can neutralize a great offense. They've done it all season long.

[Host 2]

So it's kind of like another one. When you talk about Justin Herbert too, like another guy going into the playoffs. Can he get it done? Is Sammy D. Sammy D with the Seattle Seahawks because Seattle with home field advantage. I tweeted out good luck to anybody that you know is going into Seattle that's going to try and beat this team. Because I think Seattle, he's got the path. Like to me they are a Super bowl pick of mine.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That defense they beat, they beat cats up. I just like to see Sammy D elevate a little bit. I feel like he's kind of like dwindled down the last four or five weeks of the season. I like to see him, you know, push the ball downfield a little bit more.

[Host 2]

It'll come alive with JSN. Look, there's only been one other quarterback with back to back 14 win seasons, right? I think there was like Tom Brady.

[Host 1]

For two different teams. I think your stat is two different teams.

[Host 2]

Two different teams.

[Host 1]

One quarterback, two quarterbacks, him and Tom Brady.

[Host 4]

I think there's five or six quarterbacks ever to ever have back to back 13 win seasons.

[Host 1]

Sammy D did it. I'm a big Sammy D believer.

[Host 2]

Friend of the show, friend of the show.

[Host 1]

Friend of the show and Seattle, bro. Like that environment is going to be.

[Host 2]

Nuts because the noise all week on the Internet is going to be like Sammy D. This where he's going to crumble, right? That's where Seattle, they have a bye week so they'll get to rest. They're going to, they're going to play the winner of. Who is. It's Tampa.

[Host 1]

Tampa's out.

[Host 2]

They got the, they got the, they.

[Host 1]

Got the wish with the playoffs.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Throw up. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Oh, they're gonna play the Rams.

[Host 2]

No. Yeah. Not Tampa. Nfc, South Carolina and the Rams.

[Host 1]

Then you got third showdown in, in Seattle.

[Host 4]

I feel like that would be a good matchup for Seattle because the last two times. Well, they beat them the last time they played and then the first time they played they should have won on like a game winning field goal or something.

[Host 1]

Seattle they played was that crazy overtime game, right? Yeah, that was the 15 leg Clay Matthews parlay the money. The Moneyline Matthews, parlay that hit. I like it. I like Seattle at home. Let. Let me ask you this.

[Host 2]

Seattle at home. Seattle with that defense and Sam Darnold, JSN in the playoffs and the way.

[Host 1]

They'Ve been able to run the ball as of late.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, Running the ball.

[Host 1]

Running the ball in defense. That's. Greg Olson talks about. Hey, that's what really matters when you get to the playoffs.

[Host 2]

And everybody's talked about Vrabel, Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson, but also Mike McDaniel his second year with Seattle. Mike. Mike McDonald his second year with Seattle.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he's.

[Host 2]

I mean, he is. He's a stud. You got Kubiak as the oc.

[Host 1]

Here's my fear, and I feel like I got a taste of it in 21 when we were the ones he'd had to buy. You see it in these college. In the college rankings, when you see, like, I think it's not. Or one in nine teams that have had a buy. Yeah, that's what the. That's what it is in college, which is completely different. College and NFL are two totally different things. But do the Seattle kids and men. Dude, does Seattle slow down a little bit coming. They come out a little rusty having a buy. That's what I worry about. It's completely different. It is completely different.

[Host 2]

I think Seattle. Seattle's got all the momentum in the nfc. For me, they're the momentum, number one.

[Host 1]

What stalls momentum? Time. That's what I'm saying. That's what makes me a little nervous about the momentum.

[Host 2]

By the way, Greg. Greg didn't even mention momentum yesterday on the broadcast.

[Host 1]

I know. And when you hit that group chat, I was like, I didn't listen. I had. I had the game up, but I wasn't listening to them. So I was like, yeah, I hope he hit it. And then Dave Lawan hit me up, and he's like, ever since you guys have had Greg on, I love listening to his commentary because I feel like he's still talking to you guys. Like, he's fun to listen to now. And I was like, has he brought up momentum? And then Dave just went radio silent on me. So I assumed probably not.

[Host 2]

I listened to. So Patriots came out, they scored in what, three plays? And I texted Greg in our group chat. I was like, when if the Patriots score, they go up 7 0, you talk about. You let Joe know it's all you gave him. I gave him.

[Host 1]

All he had to do was read what you wrote.

[Host 2]

And he hearted it.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So I'm thinking it's gotta come.

[Host 1]

Oh, here it goes.

[Host 2]

I kind of waited after they scored. Then I'm like, okay, maybe you know, they're in the broadcast booth, they're going to commercial soon. Maybe he wants time to talk about this. So then I'm listening for when they come out, kick the ball off and never came. He never talked about momentum. Yeah, like hey, losing to the Buffalo Bills was the best thing to happen to this Patriot team. It sparked a momentum that is going to be tough to beat going into the playoffs. And you see it right now flowing through the New England Patriots.

[Host 1]

See, I love that the Patriots play this week. I love that for them because of the momentum. If they had a buy, what happens? I don't know. Well, the Vrabel was undefeated until Patriots his first time with the Patriots. They had a buy. What happened? They lose. So now with them going, if they can get over the Chargers hump the Jesse Mentor hump.

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[Host 1]

Horrible tough guy hump.

[Host 2]

Who do you got? Let's. Let's stick in the nfc. Okay, who is you? How would you label these guys or rank these guys with most momentum going in the nfc?

[Host 1]

Most momentum. You give it to Seattle. Can I. Do you mind if I rank them?

[Host 2]

Yeah. Looking for one through seven.

[Host 1]

I'll go. It's tough because there's Seattle, big drop. Then I'll go. The Rams.

[Host 3]

And Taylor. Are we talking strictly.

[Host 1]

I'm talking strictly momentum. This is just momentum talk for the sake of the show. I'll go look at. Okay, Seattle, big drop, Rams. I'll probably put the Bears in there right after that.

[Host 2]

Bears just lost. The Lions. Maybe they lost a little more.

[Host 1]

I know that's what was kind of hanging me up a little bit. Carolina, their bottom. I would go San Fran. They just got Green Bay, Philly. Yeah, but listen.

[Host 2]

Lost to Seattle.

[Host 1]

To Seattle. And up until that point, I think Brock Purdy and that offense, that offense was scoring like 32.5 points per game. Maybe even more than that. Their defense is showing a big way. The biggest thing that worries me about the 49ers, the pass rush. We don't got a whole lot of it. Quarterbacks kind of sit up there, keep that thing high and tight a little bit. Yeah, they can bake a pizza a little bit because there's not. Unless you're, you know, solace putting in different type of blitzes. Eagles, no momentum. I don't know what to think of the Eagles. Man. I like there's a piece of me that kind of loves like Hey, I love the fact that they lose, but, like, they do have the best roster in the NFL. So what happens? Like, do they all of a sudden just turn it on? I don't see it. I think the 49ers is a good matchup for the Eagles early, though, if. If you're not getting Ricky Pearsall, if you're not getting Trent Williams back. I know. I know George played. I don't know about his health. Juwan Jennings. I see in Fred Warner's talking about making a playoff push if he can get to an NFC championship. He could possibly be back by then, but I just don't know if they have the horses on defense. And just like Greg talks about, when you kind of weed out these weak teams and you're sitting with your 16 best right here, what, like, you're going to get exposed because you have good coaching now, you have good defenses, good offenses playing each other, and now the numbers of injuries kind of wear down on you a little bit. That's what worries me for the Niners.

[Host 2]

Yeah. But I feel like that's been their story all season long. The night.

[Host 1]

Yes.

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Last five years.

[Host 1]

This year. Yeah, bro. Yes.

[Host 2]

And this year, sitting in the spot there. So if I could. If I could rank him, I would say I'll start with 7. Carolina Panthers. No momentum going into the play.

[Host 1]

0.

[Host 2]

0 momentum. 6. I would say the Green Bay packers right now, which is tough. That was. That was who I. That was who I picked on for the Super Bowl.

[Host 1]

But that's how these viewers know you're an unbiased cat, and that's beautiful. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Very.

[Host 2]

I'm extremely unbiased. Yeah. So six. Green Bay packers, number five. I'm going to go with the Eagles. Not a lot of momentum going into the playoffs.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Jalen Hurts doesn't scream momentum. That office doesn't scream momentum. They do have an elite defense. They do get a home game against San Fran. But I think San Fran's got a different type of momentum going into the playoffs the Eagles won't see coming.

[Host 3]

What kind of momentum is it on which.

[Host 2]

Which team?

[Host 3]

The San Fran. The different.

[Host 2]

So San Fran, the. The. The year that they've had going 12 and 5 in the hardest division in football, the momentum that they've created all season long, and to lose to the best team in the NFL 13 to 3, the Seattle Seahawks, this can be framed as a momentum of. This is the best thing to happen to us going into the playoffs, similar to knowing we're going to get cats coming back. So I like San Fran going, what's up?

[Host 4]

Do you think there's anything else that goes into it? This is like a rematch of the NFC championship game from a couple years ago when Brock Purdy hurt his elbow.

[Host 2]

I think it goes into it for the guys that were on that roster just a little bit. That's like One of the 10 things that play a factor. This is a small factor.

[Host 1]

That's. That's you have a big meeting and then, oh, by the way, remember that game we played when Brock Purdy got hurt?

[Host 2]

This is Shanahan knowing I'm always in this spot. They say I can't win the big one. Time to prove these wrong. I keep seeing the graphic go up that when he's down seven plus points in the fourth quarter, he's like one in 30. Fact check me on that graphic. But I think it's something around that lane to when he's down, he can't come back and rally the boys back.

[Host 1]

That's a. I know. This is college NFL. That's a James Franklin kind of stat right there. Yeah, that's a James.

[Host 2]

Tough one to look at on the phone.

[Host 1]

The more you're talking about San Fran, the more I love San Fran against the Eagles.

[Host 2]

And everybody's using the fodder of Kittle saying he was rooting for the Cardinals, that he doesn't want to play the Eagles.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That can be the farthest thing from the truth.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 2]

The way I saw it is he would rather just play in a warmer weather environment.

[Host 1]

No doubt. I think everybody could.

[Host 2]

Yeah, everybody would love.

[Host 1]

Everybody would like that. Yeah, everybody would love to have.

[Host 2]

But we really.

[Host 1]

Humidity 75, no bugs every single day. Not Jim Harbaugh, but that's what. That's where. Maybe Jim Harbaugh beats Rabel's ass. Right. Maybe there's an ass beating taking place in New England. I don't know that yet. Check in for the locker room.

[Host 2]

But are we really going to question George Kittle's toughness?

[Host 1]

Never.

[Host 2]

Iowa making a comment.

[Host 1]

He's an Iowa.

[Host 2]

Everybody's like, look, he wants to. He wants to avoid the Philadelphia Eagles. He don't give a shit about the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Host 1]

He just wants to play ball.

[Host 2]

Thinking about weather. Yeah, he does just want to play some ball.

[Host 1]

Can I put one thing in the back of your head when it comes to Eagles preseason? I mean, they won the Super Bowl. Preseason was like, this is the team that's going to repeat for sure.

[Host 2]

Best roster.

[Host 1]

Best roster. They're going to keep firing along. Look at their Wide receiver unit, Jalen Hurts Top 5 Quarterback, Super Bowl MVP, Super Bowl, Saquon Barkley. Look at the year. He said he's just going to keep the momentum going, going this year. Now we've gotten through the whole entire season. People are like, hey, they, they really haven't exceeded, they haven't met our expectations. They're actually well below who is the hardest fan base to please in the entire NFL.

[Host 2]

Oh, it's got to be Philly.

[Host 1]

Got to be Philly, right? So let me ask you this. We go into halftime and San Francisco is up by three points. How tight are the Philadelphia Eagles that their fans, their stadium, that city?

[Host 2]

If Niners are up, you don't want to know.

[Host 1]

Right?

[Host 2]

The same every week.

[Host 1]

They're going to get. They're not greasing up the polls, they're greasing up Sirianni. They're, they're greasing up Sirianni on that. He's hell of a coach.

[Host 2]

It's a 60 minute game and Philly's got the squad. Like if the Niners are up by three at halftime, like there's no celebrating. Like if you're rooting for the Ners, there's no celebrating taking place because this Eagles team can whoop teams in the.

[Host 1]

Second half, no doubt.

[Host 2]

My concern is like, are we all of a sudden just going to believe that the offense is going to come alive just because now we're in playoff mode? No, it was the same story last year with the Chiefs. They won all these one score games. They end up going to the playoffs and getting super bowl and getting murdered by the Philadelphia Eagles. It's like all of a sudden, is this offense going to come alive and just win the whole thing? Yeah, I'm, I'm not buying that. I'm thinking the Niners are going to take down Philly at Philly in their backyard.

[Host 4]

If the Eagles lose this game, like Philly fans will be calling for.

[Host 2]

Sirianni said, oh, 100.

[Host 1]

They call for Sirianni's head.

[Host 2]

That's Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, that's a regular Tuesday.

[Host 1]

That's this afternoon. That's what I'm saying though. They, they go, they go in down three and a half. You're, the fans are booing, things are tight and it's not like they've done it before. We see the Rams game, how they came back. They had 20, Rams had 28 points at the end of the first half. They had 20 points at the end of the, of the game. Two block field goals. They have a Bunch of things that take place so they have the ability to come back. But when it is the playoffs and they haven't met the standard, they should be at their well below the standard. The fans know it. They're booing you as you're going into your tunnel to have your halftime adjustments. Does it feel different as opposed to, hey, it's week 13. Whether this works out or not, we're probably going to be fine now. It's a do or die situation. They've been there before, so you have to give them the edge there. But something about the tightness in Philly right now just feels a little bit different to me. Feels a little bit different.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Even though they've. They've found ways to win, I don't see them as this team finds a way to win with the play calling that they've had all year long with Jalen Hurts at quarterback. Like, I just, I'm not buying into that stock. I think Philly's going to be let down. That's just. Again, Jeremy, I know you're our Philly fan.

[Host 4]

One and done.

[Host 3]

One and done. That's crazy. No, I don't even have to come get you. It's just every year in the playoffs, everyone doubts the Eagles. Hungry dogs run faster. They put the dog masks on. They run through everybody. It's a home game in Philly. The last time they were there, Brock Purdy got hurt, but he got hurt by getting sacked because the Eagles got pressure on him. It's not like it was.

[Host 2]

Hang on, hang on. What was the quotation?

[Host 3]

Well, it's not, it's not a legit got hurt.

[Host 1]

He legit got hurt.

[Host 3]

But what you're saying is, is like he got hurt by getting hit from an Eagle.

[Host 1]

Are you slandering Brock Purdy on this?

[Host 3]

No, no. What I'm saying is the Eagles defense is amazing and they're going to do the same thing.

[Host 2]

They are.

[Host 3]

They're going to hit him off.

[Host 2]

Defense is amazing.

[Host 1]

I'll say this, if Trent Williams does not play this game, I could definitely see the Eagles winning this game. Another under game, but man, if Trump does play, I feel a whole lot better.

[Host 3]

Oh, no. I think, I think the Eagles are gonna win, beat, beat the 49ers. I think they'll make a run. I don't know what I want to do yet. I want to make a bet with Will about the Eagles winning the super bowl, but I don't know what it's going to be yet. We can do it off.

[Host 2]

Eagles aren't Going to win the Super Bowl.

[Host 3]

I have to think of something. Eagles are winning the Super Bowl.

[Host 2]

Eagles.

[Host 3]

Eagles are built. Wait, what'd you say about Kyle Shanahan? Can't win the big game, whatever it is. Nick Sirianni wins in the playoffs. They might have lost a Super bowl, but they made it again with a team that wasn't even that good.

[Host 1]

So I hate to take something out of JP's bag, but I feel like if Eagles don't win the super bowl, you need to have a shaved face for the entire year.

[Host 2]

No, no, no.

[Host 1]

Not for the 26. First of all, if you want to.

[Host 2]

Get in on the bet, then fine, but you have. You have to pay.

[Host 1]

I'm just saying. I'm looking at that beard. I know how much you love it.

[Host 3]

That looks horrible. That was.

[Host 1]

What do you mean? Dude, the months.

[Host 3]

Look, that was a rough. A rough few weeks, but we got.

[Host 2]

We'll make a bet.

[Host 3]

We'll think of something. Eagles are winning the super bowl clump.

[Host 2]

I'm telling you, the Eagles will be one and done this weekend.

[Host 3]

I can't wait for this clip.

[Host 1]

Well, that is.

[Host 3]

This clip's gonna go crazy.

[Host 2]

I might make.

[Host 3]

I might make sure Philly fans get an edit. This is gonna be good right now.

[Host 1]

On camera. Yeah.

[Host 2]

What do we want to make? Oh, I haven't thought of anything. I almost feel bad that he's wanting. Okay. I need to finish my momentum.

[Host 1]

I love that. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Locker room.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Where were you?

[Host 2]

You're like my momentum list.

[Host 1]

I think our momentum list is exact same right now. Correct.

[Host 2]

So, yeah. Carolina. Green Bay.

[Host 1]

Philly.

[Host 2]

Philly. Chicago. San Francisco Rams, Seattle.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

And Seattle's got all the momentum. Chicago's got momentum. I. I do hate that they lost to the Lions. I hate that they slipped one up there and lost to the Lions.

[Host 1]

That was. You know what? That. That is another perfect example of what you just said of, like, this could be the best thing to happen to us. We got cocky. You know, Caleb Williams threw for the most yards in Bears history. I feel like, look at us, we're doing this.

[Host 2]

But I also feel like Chicago hasn't been a team that's ever felt comfortable in any week that they went into, which is a good. Which is a good thing to have a good chip on your shoulder.

[Host 1]

And this is clearly a week that we felt they felt comfortable. Clay Matthews is Green Bay packers guy. He said this is the bed of the week. The bed of the week is the Lions are going to destroy or so the Bears are going to destroy the Lions.

[Host 2]

I know. And I should have listened to my gut on thinking, do we really think a Dan Campbell team's not going to come in?

[Host 1]

That's what I said.

[Host 2]

Did you end up picking?

[Host 1]

I picked. I took the line.

[Host 2]

I can't even remember what I picked.

[Host 1]

I know. It's so hard once you like, once the days moves on. You're like, what happened?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It's just part of life, part of cte, brother. Hold on. I want to know about Green Bay and Bears. Where does your heart lie right now?

[Host 2]

On the game this week.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And you don't. This is not this. You're not held to anything here. I just want your feeling.

[Host 2]

The Green Bay, Chicago matchup. I'm more of just a fan watching this game because of the potential of Chicago taking down Green Bay and the fan base, being able to just go after Green Bay because Green Bay has owned him decade after decade, year after year. Clay Matthews standing up there on draft night, I was on national television, be like, this team's not going to make the playoffs. Like all the fodder that this fan base has if they get a win this weekend against their rival, against their division rival, I would almost just sit back with some popcorn to just watch it kind of go down.

[Host 1]

Yeah. So who do you got? So just your. As a fan watching, as a fan, who do you give the edge to right now? Vers.

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[Host 1]

You want me to go first?

[Host 2]

I know. LaFleur versus Johnson. I don't know. My pick will probably my pick. I still need time to pick.

[Host 1]

Raiders fire Pete Carroll. That makes sense.

[Host 2]

I think I heard that was. I think that was coming out a little bit yesterday that they were parting ways.

[Host 1]

That's been out for a week or two. Titans, they've been talking about this. Talked about one and done.

[Host 3]

Brian Flores will be the next head coach of the Raiders.

[Host 2]

I. I think I've been seeing those.

[Host 1]

Book it.

[Host 2]

I've been seeing those floating around.

[Host 1]

Whoever is the next head coach of the Raiders, good luck to them. But if that coach is also one or two years and done, we start evaluating the ownership. I mean, the owner. I. I think.

[Host 2]

I think it's already there.

[Host 1]

But, yeah, I think Tom needs to figure it out.

[Host 3]

Brady's involved now.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2]

I was gonna say Tom Brady's getting involved. I've been hearing the. The rumors of Flores.

[Host 3]

Flores, head coach, Brian Dable, the office.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Bringing Dable in. They're gonna do something. The Raiders are in hell. They have to go for the fan base. They got a sick. They got A sick number one pick. Fan base.

[Host 3]

They have the number one pick.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Since was last time the number one pick, jamarcus Russell. That's right. That is correct. That is correct. Sher hit me back with the playoff setup.

[Host 2]

So Green Bay, Chicago.

[Host 1]

I lean towards Chicago right now. I do. I think with the. With Michael Parsons being out, I just think Caleb Williams, he's got. He's got juice, he's got pizzazz. I'm feeling his momentum. I'm feeling the momentum. What's that? I don't know. And I. And I've seen a couple of things, and this is ridiculous, but, like, people are like, who should we. Who should be the starting quarterback regardless of health? Malik or Jordan Love, which I think is nuts. Yeah, that's nuts.

[Host 2]

But Malik Willis has bald.

[Host 1]

Anytime he is bald, him and Mac Jones are going to be the two. The teams that don't get the quarterback they want in the draft. Those are. The two guys are gonna get a little bag, a little trade ski and a bag ski. But I like the momentum with the Bears. I like the momentum of the Bears a lot. I think it's going to be a hell of a game. It's gonna be fun. It's probably one of the most fun games to watch this coming week.

[Host 2]

Post game is gonna be nuts, bro. It's gonna come down to what I feel like the theme is for Green Bay. It's going to come down to that fourth quarter. There's going to be a moment where Green Bay has to go for it. They don't convert, and it's over.

[Host 1]

Oh, so you got the Bears. They're gonna need it out. It's just.

[Host 2]

I can see it going strictly.

[Host 1]

Strictly momentum right now. Strictly momentum.

[Host 2]

Strictly momentum.

[Host 1]

Strictly momentum. I'm just talking Bears, Rams, Carolina. We all know where that's going to go. I think that would be insane. Rank your momentum.

[Host 2]

A massive upset if Carolina happens to sneak the Rams. They did. They are sneaky.

[Host 1]

Who?

[Host 4]

Carolina.

[Host 2]

Dude.

[Host 1]

No, no, no. They were sneaky. They're out of the bushes now. It's over.

[Host 4]

If. If Carolina can run the ball, if.

[Host 1]

Rico down, they're no longer sneaky. They're out of the bushes. They. They were on the prowl. They did their thing. They got the Gazelle. Everyone's like, well, there he is. He's no longer sneaky.

[Host 4]

If they can run the ball. If you establish like.

[Host 1]

Like, probably like, establish the run, play great defense, take care of the football. I. I'm with you. Rams. Rams. Momentum in seventh place in the AFC Pittsburgh Steelers taking a quick break from.

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[Host 1]

Lenovo nicotine is an addictive chemical let's get back to this episode. Please subscribe. Next I'll give the momentum to Let Me Go Chargers. I'm going to go Chargers on the momentum front, but that's that's an easy switch up. That's an easy at any moment you kind of just went at any moment.

[Host 2]

I just fully flipped by what you were saying earlier with Harbaugh.

[Host 1]

Then I'm going to go Denver. I'll take Houston, Buffalo and Jacksonville is my number one momentum team right now.

[Host 2]

The sneaky Jacksonville buddy.

[Host 1]

Let's give Will Compton a round of applause. He's been calling it since October.

[Host 2]

I do. I love the way Jacksonville's been playing.

[Host 3]

Jacksonville's still in the bushes.

[Host 1]

Jacksonville sneaky. They're still in the bushes. They're 12 and 4. Still took their record last year. Flipped it, huh?

[Host 4]

They're in the playoffs.

[Host 2]

Oh, they people still got in the bushes.

[Host 1]

They're in the bushes, people.

[Host 2]

Jacksonville Jaguars. I'll tell you be like, oh wow, they made it in the playoffs. That's crazy.

[Host 1]

I'll look, I'll look it up. You do your momentum. But I'm gonna figure out what the line is on this Chargers but how to open up.

[Host 2]

So my momentum is going to start off with at number seven, the Pittsburgh Steelers. I feel like they don't have a lot of momentum going into the playoffs. Number six, I'm going to say the LA Chargers. My number five with momentum is going to be the Buffalo Bills. Not a lot of momentum. A lot of the storyline is going to be like, hey, this is the year Josh Allen has to get it done. I don't see the Buffalo Bills having a lot of momentum. Having the team capable of getting to the super bowl. Four on my momentum list is going to be Houston. I feel like I saw a couple things over the weekend Again, the Riley Leonard being able to score on them defensively, I do think that defense is the best defense. That's the defense you don't want to play in the playoffs. Are they going to, you know, build offensively to win games throughout the playoffs? So I have Houston at number four. My number three momentum team is going to be Denver. The Denver Broncos is a kind of a question mark on Denver right now.

[Host 1]

What's the question mark?

[Host 2]

The question mark is.

[Host 1]

Can they do it? Question mark is, do they have the momentum?

[Host 2]

My question mark with Denver, because I've loved Bo Nixon. This Denver football team loved him. But do they actually have what it takes to win as the 1 seed? Because where I see. Where I see it's going to happen is Houston's going to win their game against Pittsburgh. Then Denver is going to have to host Houston and Houston. Now I know I have Houston at 4 and Denver at 3. As far as momentum goes, that 3 slot for Denver is because they have the bi week, so they get to sit on a little bit of momentum. Houston will be creating some taking down Pittsburgh and running an elite game. Defensively, they're going to be going into Denver with probably the better defense, even though Denver has had. They have the most sacks throughout the. Throughout the league.

[Host 1]

Yeah. There's something about Houston and Denver. I think Denver statistically is better from a defense standpoint, but who would you rather see? And they're both terrifying. I think you'd rather see Denver over Houston.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Houston feels like they have gladiators across the board defensively.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And my number two team with momentum is the Jacksonville Jaguars. And my number one team with momentum is the New England Patriots.

[Host 1]

Wow.

[Host 2]

Yeah. I think the team that's going to represent the AFC is going to be between the Jacksonville Jaguars and the New England Patriots periods.

[Host 1]

Well, now, hold on, hold on. This is just momentum we're just talking about. So right now it's just. These are the momentum vibes.

[Host 2]

We have momentum vibes.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Because I don't know if you saw the biggest momentum swing for Jacksonville going into the playoffs. And it's. It's gonna. It's going viral right now on social media. But I don't think people understand how big of momentum of a momentum play this is. But the culture gifted Trevor Lawrence a grill in the locker room after the game, and that is massive.

[Host 1]

I don't know whether to do a moment of silence or to clap for that. Because Trevor Lawrence being able to be gifted a grill from the culture, like you just said, that's Everything. That's something you pray for as a team, as a quiet football player.

[Host 2]

The team's got your back. City's got your back. Here you go, bro. Dude, Trevor Lawrence, this is it for him. This is the year that he gets to decide. Is he the person who everybody thought he was since he was in high school? Yeah, you always hear about it. Trevor Lawrence, he has a premier arm but not premier decision making. He has premier intangibles. Does he have premier leadership? This is the playoffs where Trevor Lawrence can set the tone for his destiny. Right. Because he hopefully he can live up to it for his sake. Even though we know the MVP is down to two with Drake, May and Stafford. Like the way Trevor has been playing in the back half of the year, bro, he is balling right now. Them winning or losing fully rides on him.

[Host 1]

And listen, the, the game's a pickup. It's one and a half. Bills are favored one and a half in Jacksonville this weekend.

[Host 2]

Is Liam Cohen in the coach of the year? Needs to be. He's in the conversation. He's not going to win. It's not going to be great.

[Host 1]

He's far. He's farther away. I think he's like it wasn't this last week we looked at it. He was like five or six. Like he was down there a little bit in the plus 4 digit mark. Let me just talk about. Listen, we, I, I think Jacksonville, it'd be awesome to see them represent. I know AFC south, the whole thing. But to see them have the flip they did from 4 and 12 to 124 is impressive. Should give the two massive Tennessee Titan fans in here a lot of hope and optimism for a coach to come in and flip your script as well going into next year. This is, this is a Kurt Signetti type of situation.

[Host 2]

We're looking at the Jags to represent the AFC over your former coach Vrabel and your former lover Jim Harbaugh.

[Host 1]

Talk to him. G. Now listen, I said it'd be great to see him Patriots. How many times have we seen him in the Super Bowl? Quite a bit. Chargers would be awesome to see.

[Host 3]

But after what you did to them.

[Host 1]

Do what? Own them for nine. Arguably not arguably. I'm going to say 10. Soon 10 years. Own the Jacksonville put an end to it. Yeah, it was Saxonville. They had zero against us. Like I get it. We went off on them. Derek Henry, 99 yards, 236 on the ground like that. That's the kind of day we have.

[Host 2]

You can respect what they're doing.

[Host 1]

I Can respect what Liam Combs doing, what the culture is doing. Trevor Lawrence, the trials, tribulations, High school, doesn't really lose, goes to Clemson, multiple national championships, doesn't lose. I think he had, like, what, four losses in high school and college, comes here, gets hung, gets his ass humbled. People are saying, this guy's got one more year before we got to figure out if we're gonna go get a quarterback in the draft. Now we see him flip it. There's nothing but respect on that. Nothing but respecting the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm not concerned about the Jags, G. I did what I had my time against them, you know, Now I'm just sitting back watching, and it's respectable to see. Yeah, but the Bills, man, you take.

[Host 3]

It to the grave.

[Host 1]

Something about the Bills in the playoffs not having Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. Something about his ability to go and run through these cats. It's real. The most momentum ability that any of these teams has is Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills.

[Host 3]

Is there a certain kind of momentum that comes from people sleeping on the Bills? Like, would that cause momentum?

[Host 1]

Yeah, I absolutely could. But that's all rumbling. That's in the ground. That's an earthquake. You start to feel, so what's going on here? And then, you know, tectonic planes just tapped each other a little bit. Now Josh Allen and the Bills are coming. That's what takes place. I don't know. I'm not a Dragon Ball Z guy. I'm sure JP could say that, but this feels like a Super Saiyan type of thing. Getting the balls like this feels like Josh Allen might be him. Josh Allen might be my team this year. Actually, he might be Goku.

[Host 2]

Who do you think?

[Host 1]

I might. You know what? I picked the Bills in the beginning of the year, and the more I'm talking about, the more I'm looking at this slate, I'm like, Josh Allen could just go super. What's called Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan on all these Cats.

[Host 3]

And Goku is a great comparison.

[Host 1]

Okay. I love that I found my way there, because I don't know about Dragon Ball Z, but I could see. I could see the Bills taking it this year. So defensive back end, bottom five wide, receiving group. Take it. I could see him. Go ahead.

[Host 2]

I was going to ask. Yeah. Bills play Jacksonville.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So Denver as the 1 seed. They will host the lowest seed that comes out of the wild card weekend. Is Denver going to be hosting the Buffalo Bills next week? Are they going to be hosting the Chargers? You Were kind of saying the Chargers.

[Host 1]

I don't know. I'll. To me. I think I got. I. I think I've talked myself into the Bills without looking into a whole lot.

[Host 2]

You're taking them over Jacksonville.

[Host 1]

I. I think I've talked myself into it. We had to wait to the locker room. We gotta wait to the locker room. But I will say, keep your eye on that seven seed. Keep your eye on that seven.

[Host 2]

I got.

[Host 1]

I'm gonna look into it a whole lot more. No, Pittsburgh's four.

[Host 2]

Pittsburgh's four. Because since they won the division.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

The seventh seed is the Chargers.

[Host 3]

I was going off of your rankings.

[Host 2]

Keep your eye on the sixth seed.

[Host 1]

Nope. Keep your eye on the seven seed, the Chargers. Yes. Because I. And you asked the question was, who is Denver gonna host? I kind of got the Bills winning. I don't know who I have between the Chargers and the Patriots right now. So that's where I'm like, keep your. On that seven seed. I'll let you know later.

[Host 3]

Tune in on Thursday.

[Host 1]

Tune in on Thursday.

[Host 4]

It feels like you have more bias with the hardball led Chargers than you do the variable led, buddy.

[Host 1]

To be honest, I'm not. I'm not biased at all right now. I'm just sitting here.

[Host 4]

You just actually like the Chargers team or.

[Host 1]

I actually. I actually think their defense is really good. I think Justin Herbert has a lot of pressure on him, but a lot of opportunity as well. He is a great quarterback. I could see the Chargers getting something going, especially the way they match up defenses on offenses. Like, I brought up the Patriots. Like, they don't have a pass rush that can get to Herbert over and over and over again because they do have tackles that are hurt. So they have to simulate all the pressures, which puts you in a zone coverage which adds a lot of holes. And Justin Herbert's a guy that can break. Break it up quite a bit. So that's why I sit there. I'm like, I love the Patriots. I hope Variable gets himself a Super Bowl. I just look at the Chargers, I'm like, that's a tough matchup for both teams going to this game. But bias, like the way you were talking about the Bears and the Packers, I'm kind of just excited to watch these teams play. And then hopefully we get to the super bowl and it's two teams we haven't seen in forever, two different logos. That's really what I want more than anything.

[Host 3]

Broncos will be figured out.

[Host 2]

Go to the. Go over to the NFC side. Who do you see Seattle hosting next week.

[Host 1]

Buddy. It's the same thing. Keep your eye on that seven seed because I think the 49ers, where I've talked myself into right now, 49ers with the Eagles, but I mean the Packers.

[Host 2]

I know. I don't know what to make of.

[Host 1]

So hard. So hard to see because this is. This is. Other than the. The Panthers. No disrespect to the Panthers, Darren Bates, those boys up there, they've. They've had a year I think nobody really saw coming even having a chance to make it into the playoffs. But other than them, it's really like whoever's on that day and that's what makes these playoffs so fun, is it's like the Seahawks to me are the best team in the NFL. The Seahawks can fall to any of these teams besides Panthers. They can fall to any of them. That's what, that's what I'm looking at.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Stacked playoffs and it's fun and people been on the nfc. Nfc. But it's like the AFC too, dude.

[Host 2]

I feel like the AFC is coming alive.

[Host 1]

It's coming alive and it's. We got momentum out the ass right now. Every team's got momentum except for the Eagles. But it seems like they don't give a about momentum.

[Host 3]

Real quick note. And I know we're in the NFL, we're not in college, but you noticed how we just had a full conversation about the NFL playoffs and never once we questioned the structure of it. Just wanted to put that out there.

[Host 1]

I do have something to say about the NFL playoffs. I do.

[Host 3]

Oh, more momentum. Clean take.

[Host 1]

This is just a thought. This is a thought. It might be a clean take. Might be a clean take. Should a team that goes below.500 be able to host a playoff game?

[Host 2]

No. I do like the proposal. I forget what team was about to do.

[Host 1]

And The Panthers are 8, 9 and they're hosting the 12 and 5 Rams.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Yes. Because they won their division. That's how they have set up.

[Host 1]

I. I know how. I know how your division. If you want to know how I'm fully aware of the. The process. I'm just saying, like, do we maybe need to look into that? Do we like, do we really want.

[Host 4]

I don't hate it.

[Host 1]

Eight, nine team hosting a 12 and five team.

[Host 4]

I mean, I mean, I don't hate it. It's just some. Because there used to be years where it was like the NFC least. Like sometimes there's bad years for certain divisions and stuff like that.

[Host 1]

That's a fair point. It's a fair point. I don't think it's broken. It's just something I wanted to bring up and it seems like I know where it stands. Majority against me. I feel good about that.

[Host 2]

I don't see the best teams in the playoffs.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah, I see. I think the Panthers should still be in the playoffs because they won their division. The. My question is the hosting. Hosting a home.

[Host 2]

Yeah. I don't have like a strong opinion on like, hey, it has to be this way. But I would rather see like the Rams should be hosting the Panthers this weekend. Like you're going by overall record as far as who's. How the seating goes.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Momentum.

[Host 3]

I don't hate that idea too because then week 18 games would be more important. Teams would be playing for like home field. Some teams bench their starters knowing that they're not going to win their division and stuff like that. Like they're set in their seed.

[Host 2]

So if they could. Yeah. Knowing they're already slotted.

[Host 3]

So you could be right.

[Host 2]

You actually.

[Host 3]

You're onto something. You're kind of swaying me now that I think about it.

[Host 1]

Eagles could have the two. See, but they said other starters. So that's your team.

[Host 3]

That is. That's true. That is. Yes.

[Host 1]

It's gonna be so interesting to see what the Eagles do because there's a world where they just slow walk their way to the super bowl and just draw drug, drag everybody into the depths and just be like, this is where we live. Welcome. They even talk slow. They're the sloth of the NFL.

[Host 2]

But anyway, let's get into some tear talk.

[Host 1]

Grab some tear talk.

[Host 2]

Grab some tear talk. Fans chiming in. You want a chance to be featured on the show? Just hashtag tear talk with whatever your thought could be NFL playoffs MVP who's going to win. Getting something off your chest. Venting a little bit. Just hashtag tear talk for a chance to be featured on the episode. But this first one comes from Lorenzo. Big underscore papa underscore zo on X Raiders fan sadly. Do you take a QB number one or do you trade the pick for more picks? Build up the O line and other needs Also shout out Mitch Carsley needs some recaps or flag Hashtag tear talk at bus and at sherms shout out Lorenzo.

[Host 1]

I think the clear answer here is you need to take quarterback. I think you need to take quarterback in the situation.

[Host 2]

It's so tough with the Raiders, man. I feel like they have like there's just so many holes. Like that's not the whole draft and everything else is like not my game. But my very first thought is like why not trade back and get more draft capital so you can try?

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[Host 2]

And build out a roster. And also I think dealing Max Crosby, no doubt.

[Host 1]

Okay, so two teams that have a lot of holes. Our Tennessee Titans have a lot of holes all over the place. But they have a quarterback. So now you can go and fill those hole. Fill those holes. The Raiders, unless they're willing to spend a whole bunch of money, next year is going to be another rebuild year for them. As well get the quarterback. If you see this quarterback in this draft, you take them, eat it, and try to draft as well as possible while grabbing people in free agency. That's where if you could have a great team. If you don't have a quarterback, you're going nowhere.

[Host 4]

You just said Mac Jones, Malik Willis. Those are two hot names on the great.

[Host 1]

That's a great point. To my point. Bringing back my point. I like that.

[Host 4]

I think you sign.

[Host 1]

That's a clean take. That's a clean take by Mitch Carsley.

[Host 4]

I feel like you sign one of them and like Mac Jones, they're both still very, very young, but like they have. They got rid of their best receiver in Jacoby Myers, sent him to Jacksonville. Their only receiving threat is Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer. Like, you need an outside guy. I feel like they need an outside wide receiver receiver. They just drafted a running back in Ash and Genti. I don't know if they want to get rid of Max Crosby because he's their only thing on defense. Granted, you'd get a lot more for him, but, like, I think you need to sign one of those two and then just like have a stupid amount of money to, like, spend in the off season.

[Host 1]

I haven't reached out to Max, but it definitely feels outside looking in that there's some. There's some anger taking place between the team and him.

[Host 2]

There's been friction going on around through headlines and graphics and how he left the facility.

[Host 1]

Basketball hoops wanted to play. Yeah, clean take.

[Host 2]

Clean take.

[Host 1]

We're just trying to be clean about our takes right now.

[Host 2]

Yeah, clean take.

[Host 1]

But yeah, I like. I like that. I like getting a guy, but I also like drafting a guy, developing a guy. Who's. Who are you bringing as your coaching staff? Is it Flores and Dable? Like, if those are the two cats you're bringing in, that would be awesome.

[Host 2]

Maybe go get James Winston.

[Host 3]

What about a trade for Joe Burrow?

[Host 1]

A trade for Joe Burrow would be massive. That's. You throw everything out the window.

[Host 4]

I think that would be like a. You think that would be a player for.

[Host 1]

That's a great take. It's a clean take by Jeremy Klump.

[Host 4]

You think it'd be Joe Burrow for Max Crosby? Like, you think it would just be.

[Host 1]

That's not. That's not a one for one. Like Max is. He's a defense player of the year caliber player. But we're talking about Joe Burrow. Like, Joe Burrow is a franchise.

[Host 4]

What do you think you need on top of that.

[Host 1]

You want to keep Max if you can. And I think you, if you had the opportunity and you're the Raiders, I wouldn't be like, give him your draft. We'll take Joe Burrow. We'll go spend money in free agency. Now you're looking at a team that's like, yeah, we might be making the playoffs here. What's up? Spill.

[Host 2]

I'm just. I always get nervous with these.

[Host 1]

Dude, I'm with you every time I.

[Host 2]

Grab them because you don't got a straw. It'll leak on you.

[Host 1]

It'll leak. It'll drip.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Pet peeve of mine, dude.

[Host 3]

Dirty tape.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Dirty take. Yep. Yep.

[Host 3]

Yeah, we got another tear talk for you guys.

[Host 2]

Joe Hollister @Joe Hollister 37 on X. Hashtag tear talk. How hard is it to play a game you know, means nothing. Don't know if you guys ever went through it, but that's always interesting to me. New Year's resolution was to read more. I know, Willie. One shelf is off to a hot start.

[Host 1]

Oh yeah? You reading?

[Host 2]

I read a couple books I'm in the middle of. So two books. I've joined the 40 plus Caucasian women year old to read the let them theory. I know it's a hot one for the older women. And then Terminal List. Terminal List. I'm on page 124 of Terminal List right now.

[Host 1]

The first one.

[Host 2]

The first book.

[Host 1]

I'm reading that too. Dave got me that for Christmas.

[Host 2]

Jack Carr. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sent me an entire box with the entire series.

[Host 1]

No.

[Host 2]

So there's like what, ten books?

[Host 1]

Yeah, first.

[Host 2]

My first fiction one I've ever read.

[Host 1]

Jack Carr did not send me. Dave Lawan got me those books and I'm like on page 56 or something like that. Terminal List.

[Host 4]

This is your first fiction book ever.

[Host 2]

I'm sure I read one when I was Harry Potter. I was legit. I'm sure I read for like a book report or something in school. But as far as being an adult and reading, I've. I've always went into non fiction personal development stuff like that. I've never read fiction books.

[Host 4]

They're fun, dude.

[Host 2]

And I've always kind of like laughed at people who do because my wife is a massive fiction reader.

[Host 4]

They're fun. Like you just get like a little movie in your head. You just lock in like it is.

[Host 2]

That's what's fun about reading Terminal is because I've. You guys know I've rocked the. The series on Amazon prime, which I highly recommend. But getting to read it now I think I am seeing the light on the book being better than the, than.

[Host 1]

The movie, you know, everybody, you're becoming that guy.

[Host 2]

I just, I'm enjoying it because I know what happens. And there's a lot more details in the book that you don't see in the TV series.

[Host 1]

I will say this, the terminal list in the beginning when the guys gets assassinated in the car. But chapter one. Yeah, let's buddy like three pages in just goes haywire in a hurry.

[Host 2]

And the thing with fiction books too is I feel like chapters are shorter because they got like 80 chapters.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 4]

Makes it easier to like, to like, like.

[Host 1]

Yeah, because I feel like, I feel like. I don't know if it's a guy thing, but like you're like, I'll read a chapter a night, but when that chapter's three pages, you're like, I'm kind of doing something the way I read. That's 25 minutes.

[Host 4]

How I'll read. It's like, I'll see. Like, all right, how far, how many chapters can I read in like 20 pages? All right, four. Oh, bet like that's.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 4]

I think like the non fiction books, like a chapter's like 35 pages. Like.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And getting to tell your boys.

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[Host 3]

I read 14 chapters last night and little did they know that was 28 pages or you know.

[Host 1]

Right, right, bro, this terminalist book. I think the first chapter was no joke, like four pages. Yeah, it was like one flip, two flip, next chapter.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 4]

So how hard is it to play?

[Host 1]

No, no, it's chapter one. I saw it.

[Host 2]

Because how hard is it playing a game you know, means nothing?

[Host 1]

Have you ever been in that situation?

[Host 2]

Yeah, a couple times. For me it was never, it was never hard to plan a game that that meant nothing because I always had to think of it as you're playing for the next season, you're playing for the next staff, or if that staff is going to be there, you're trying to play, get as build as much equity as you can with that current staff and put good stuff on tape.

[Host 1]

For me, I've only been in that situation like one or two times and we were playing the Saints. Week 16 is when there's 16 games, or my week 16 or 17, there was one more game after this, but because it was an NFC opponent, the game, this game really didn't matter to make the playoffs. It was Houston or whoever the next week that really mattered. So going into the game, I think Derek only played like a half. AJ Only played A little bit. And I played the entire game and that second half was very difficult for me to play because I was like, well, I can't come out because you, you.

[Host 2]

The playoffs were already.

[Host 1]

The playoffs weren't started yet. But we were in a position where hey, the this nfc, this we're AFC team playing the nfc. The way these things, if we win or lose this game, it has zero effect on whether or not we make the playoffs. The thing that makes the mo like matters the most is this last AFC south game we're going to play.

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[Host 1]

So these guys played like a half and then they took them out and then I was still playing. That second half was difficult.

[Host 2]

So it felt more like a preseason.

[Host 1]

Game for you felt more like a preseason game. But it mattered and it was. We were in December. It mattered for everybody. Watching it counts. You're in regular games. So that. That was more difficult for me. Preseason is hard to play in. But games that don't matter. No, no. It's not really that hard to play in.

[Host 3]

Momentum going into next year is very important with those.

[Host 1]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

It's all about momentum.

[Host 2]

Momentum going into next year. What do you mean?

[Host 3]

But hey, it might not mean anything but as far as momentum goes going into next year, it means everything. We're building on our momentum. That's just my take.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Host 3]

It might not be a clean one.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 2]

That's the cleanest.

[Host 3]

Not the cleanest.

[Host 1]

Not the cleanest. This one comes from Steven at Sergeant. Is that Sergeant? Sgt Sergeant Scuba22. Hashtag tear talk. Are we serious about MG breaking the sack record? Might be the softest thing I have ever seen since Charman came out with toilet paper. I also think NFL records are out of control. Little parentheses, the first left handed 27 year old to make five catches for 25 plus yards while jacking off.

[Host 3]

Clean tank.

[Host 1]

Dude, I don't know what the hate is for Miles Garrett. Not getting the sacred. That's nuts, dude.

[Host 2]

Miles Garrett breaking the sack record. And I get. I love Strahan being like I got it in 16 games. He got in 17 games.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 2]

But again, Miles Garrett generate generational pass rusher. Possibly the greatest when his time is up. Possibly the greatest rusher that we will ever see. The fact that he got this record on the Browns who are never playing, they're always playing from behind. So teams are always running the ball in the second half. He's the entire game plan when offenses are going out there and scheming against him offensively. Dude, he is a stud.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's monumental.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

What Miles Garrett was able to accomplish and you brushed over it. If you're in a team that never plays with a lead, it is impossible to beat the sack record. That's exactly what he did.

[Host 2]

He's an alien.

[Host 1]

He's an alien.

[Host 2]

He's got a pipe on him, too.

[Host 1]

Pipe. Clean dog. Yeah. That's a clean tank. That's a clean take. So, yeah, Miles Garrett, his record. Listen, brother, I think that's unbelievable.

[Host 2]

What's charming soft about Miles Gary going crazy about Miles Garrett's.

[Host 4]

I guess they kind of thought it was. It's a baller like Joe Burrow, I guess, kind of like fell. I don't know if that's kind of.

[Host 1]

How that's a real sack he got around the tackle.

[Host 4]

I think that's what might be the kind of like, how Brett Favre did the same thing for Strahan. Like, I feel like they're trying to avoid. Equate it that way. I think I'm. I'm all on board that this is an unreal record.

[Host 1]

Yeah. The far Strahan thing, I can definitely get behind Far kind of waddling off to the right and falling down and straight touching him. I can get behind that conspiracy theory. Nothing about this to me was, yeah, him not earning that sack record 17 games. I get it. But let's not forget that, like, two games prior that he had no sacks. Like, he had the opportunity in, like, early December to beat the sack record being one game away from doing it.

[Host 3]

People were big mad about them stopping the game, too. I don't know if you guys have.

[Host 1]

A T. Yeah, I saw. I saw Jamar Chase and the head coach.

[Host 3]

What's his name? Something Taylor. Zach Taylor was super mad about it, too. He didn't think they should have stopped.

[Host 1]

The game for him breaking a record.

[Host 2]

So didn't Zach Taylor just get fired?

[Host 3]

I don't think so, no.

[Host 2]

I think they're keeping him.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Yeah, they were talking about.

[Host 2]

That's what leads me to think that Joe B's not going anywhere.

[Host 3]

What do you guys think, though? Stopping a game for a big record being broken.

[Host 1]

Good for LeBron.

[Host 2]

I mean, I see both sides.

[Host 1]

I see both sides. If you're going to do that, you're the referees and you just tell the coaches, hey, if he does get the sack record, we're going to. We're going to stop the game. Because I think that's what they're most mad about is they didn't say anything, but clearly, yeah, it should have been a penalty Whatever it was, can't give him the penalty. But that is something that should be celebrated.

[Host 3]

Bengals should decline the penalty.

[Host 2]

Obviously. It's a game. All the rules are the same. Like, you want to see him the same. And, you know, treat them equal everything else. But if that game meant something, I could understand Coach Taylor's sentiment on the whole thing. But the fact that that game meant nothing, like Miles Garrett getting the sack record, then.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's the. That's the old. That's like, besides Bengals fans and Browns fans. That's why the casual fan tunes into that game is to see if Miles Garrett gets sacker. We were texting about bets right before the noon slate hit, and I was like, this is the bet. And it was miles Garrett over 0.75 sacks, so he had to get one full sack. And I was like, this is as.

[Host 3]

As far as stopping it. Like, did they fully stop it and, like, do a ISO camera shot on him and, like, center half the.

[Host 1]

The team came on the field, they're celebrating. He's dapping guys up.

[Host 2]

They ran. They ran a ceremony, baby. Like a mini ceremony.

[Host 3]

Okay. I was at the Cowboys Thanksgiving game where that DB broke the pick six record.

[Host 1]

Duron Leonard. Is that what you said?

[Host 3]

Bland. But all they did was just, like, ISO him on the sideline and announced it over the intercom.

[Host 2]

That's usually what happens. That's probably, you know. Yeah. Again, I get. I get the sentiment Coach Taylor's talking about.

[Host 3]

All.

[Host 2]

The only reason I don't necessarily care is because that game meant absolutely nothing.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Where you got to be, coach.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Right. Yeah. Like you're going to Cancun after this.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Run the ball.

[Host 2]

Let's get out of here.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I got the last tier 20 last year. Talk comes from Connor at ZCG 2015. Hashtag tear talk. Which would be a bigger fu to the Titans organization? Rabel AJ Brown Super bowl or Henry AJ Brown Super Bowl PS 2026 New Year's resolution is to grow my brand. Gridiron Gilly with followers, likes and engagement. Well, shout out good iron Gilly. Shout out chasing a dream. That's what we want out here. Henry A.J. brown Super bowl will not be happening this year. Can't do it. Ravens didn't make the playoffs, so I guess the bigger FU would be the variable. AJ AJ Brown Super Bowl.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Variable success in general is always got. Yeah. I feel like it kind of keeps Titans fans up a little bit.

[Host 1]

Every win that variable gets is an FU to the Titans organization, which is tough. Yeah.

[Host 2]

The success that that team has had. Which. What?

[Host 1]

Jack just over here pointing at me like, go ahead, say something.

[Host 3]

I'm like, yeah, it'd be. It'd be variable, obvious. In my opinion, it'd be rainbow. That was more even just seeing one of these individuals get a Super Bowl. We've already seen AJ Win a Super bowl and be in a Super bowl.

[Host 1]

If Rabel's in it.

[Host 3]

Especially after the current state of the Titans and how things transpired two years ago. Yeah, I'd be happy for him though. I'm not gonna sit here and like cry or milk. It's like, good job, Braves. Come back on the bus, talk about it.

[Host 1]

Come back on the bus and talk about. Chop your piece off like a man. Yeah, be a man. Follow. Be a man of your word. Yeah, gotta have it. Gotta have it.

[Host 2]

What? On the, on the subject of Rabel, New England Patriots, does anybody have strong opinions on the MVP with Stafford and Drake May?

[Host 1]

I. I think after this weekend, last week, Drake May this week, it's now Matthew Stafford.

[Host 2]

Just swing the pendulum.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I mean, I'm swinging like fandom sportsbook right now. You see how they went. I think Drake May was the clear front runner.

[Host 2]

Minus 300 something odds last week.

[Host 1]

Yes. And then it was everybody else. Now it's. I think Drake May was plus 140 and then Matthew Stafford was minus 175. I understand it like this is when the race is so tight between two individuals. Whoever has a better game, it's going to flip. And Matthew Stafford was at four, four touchdowns.

[Host 2]

When I think he had four yesterday.

[Host 1]

Four yesterday.

[Host 2]

It's like, yeah, he just has significantly more touchdowns than Drake made this year.

[Host 1]

Like, that's more. That's where it's. That's where it's getting out of hand. Because the argument for Drake May is look what he's doing with his receiving core that he has. And I think that is a hell of an argument. What's that? And it's year two. All that, that's like Stafford, I think his stats have gone above and beyond where you now need to look at it. Be like, okay, yeah, Stafford's the guy. Now they both Rams lose and the Patriots win or vice versa. I think that has a massive implications this week is everything.

[Host 2]

What worried me for Drake May was when I saw that Tyler schuck has more 300 yard passing games than Drake may, which is like one or two. And I'm like, if you're going to have. And Drake May definitely deserves like the mvp, he's Played phenomenal. But I feel like to get the MVP you have to have those games.

[Host 3]

Where it's like five touchdowns, 400 yards.

[Host 2]

You just light up the stat sheet. But yeah, but he's also like north of 70% of his offense like Drake May, both of them. Stafford and Drake may have had incredible seasons and when I think of the mvp it's like who is the most valuable player in the NFL and also like on your team. Like to me it's arguable that like Matt Stafford, as awesome as he is, Puka Nukua is arguably the best player on the Rams team. They all you also got Devonte Adams, Kyron Williams, an offensive minded McVEIGH and that's not me trying to pull away from what Stafford has done. I just think if you took Stafford on that team and obviously had, you need to have a competent quarterback because Stafford is a badass on the Los Angeles Rams. But that team's still going to be good like you. You remove Drake May from the New England Patriots. They're going to be the New England Patriots that everybody predicted before the season. Not one network. Nobody had the Patriots winning the AFC East. Nobody had the Patriots. They were going to maybe compete for second. Some lists I saw third. But nobody expected the Patriots to be any good. Everybody across the board had the Rams going to the playoffs and the Rams are in the playoffs. Stafford has had an incredible season and he's always been a really good quarterback. Drake made of me it's like again them going what'd they go last year? 4 and 13. The turnaround that they've had and how they've exceeded everybody's expectation. I want to say the sportsbook had them at over under was what, seven and a half, eight and a half wins on the year but not making the playoffs. The way that this team is played, the way Drake May has played. And again all these predictions about New England not being very good this year was also when the preseason they predicted them to have a weak schedule.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

So they've, they've just, they've murdered that. And there's only been three quarterbacks all time to lead the NFL in yards per attempt and completion percentage. That was Kurt Warner, it was Tom Brady and now it's Drake Matt. And again I, I, you can get into the weeds and the numbers on all of it. There's arguments for both sides. I just think Drake May is the most valuable player in the NFL and especially for his team.

[Host 1]

Everything you said I agree with. But the stats is the part where it starts to separate for me it's 15 more touchdowns and I think less interceptions. Correct. Same amount of interceptions. Yeah, that, that's, that's where I sit back. I'm like, yeah, okay, I agree, you're right. No, but the whole argument of like a week, a week NFL schedule, it's like bro, it's the NFL. Yeah, like everyone's good. That pisses me off. If it's college, I completely understand the college thing where it hurts.

[Host 2]

It too is getting to play the jets twice and they had zero interceptions. All like. But even a lot of, a lot.

[Host 1]

Of, a lot of people had to.

[Host 2]

Play over the Patriots coming out of the division this year.

[Host 1]

And Matthew Stafford played in the hardest division in all of NFL this year.

[Host 2]

And again Stafford Rams got third in their division and again they still made the playoffs. But the, the Patriots like every, everybody, it was the Bills and Josh Allen, everybody, us included like ever we kind of predicted that oh Patriots could probably compete for second place but everybody saw it as a very much.

[Host 1]

This is Josh, this is Josh Allen. The Bills, this is their year to win the super bowl.

[Host 2]

Right? And they're now sitting there, they were fighting for the one seed the last week of the season, but they're sitting there with the two seed. They what, what was their overall record? 14 and three. Yeah, I mean they've exceeded everything. And you talk about numbers and again when you get in the weeds it's like stats Stafford had again had an unreal year. But I took a screenshot of one off of next gen stats. But Drake may pass a rating by situation. Overall he's first with 112.9 QB rating. 20 plus deep balls. 20 plus CR deep balls. He's first under pressure, he's first on the road. He's first when trailing. He's first inside the pocket. He's first outside the numbers. Throwing outside the numbers. He's second past the sticks. He's first verse zone coverage. He's first verse under pressure versus blitz. He's first sub package is first on straight drop backs. He's first tight windows, he's second on first downs, he's first outdoors. He's first. Two high safeties, he's fourth. And on third and fourth down, he's fourth. People are getting so into the weeds on all this stuff. But Drake may is unbelievable.

[Host 1]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. It just to me it's that one number because all the arguments I can make sense both ways and I think Drake may means more to his team than Matthew Staffords means to his team because I think The. The Rams have a better football team, top to bottom.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Stefan Diggs, Matt Collins. Hunter Henry is a dog, but Hunter Parkinson's.

[Host 1]

But Booty, like, booty's catching deep.

[Host 2]

Like, to me, it's very similar to the Josh Allen situation in Buffalo.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That screenshot, too, was from. It was a tweet posted by NFL research researcher. NFL underscore researcher. Just to give.

[Host 1]

Just to give, give, give some flowers.

[Host 2]

That's unreal.

[Host 1]

Unreal, unreal. But the 15 more touchdowns is where I just.

[Host 2]

And who'd went in the octagon?

[Host 1]

Drake May's bodying old man Stafford.

[Host 2]

Yeah, like, throwing people hanging on him, escaping the pocket. Like, the dude has got, like that. He's a Highland Park. He's just got like that Superman element to where he can do everything.

[Host 1]

I'm with you, dude. Everything you said makes a whole lot of sense. The only thing I just keep hanging my hat on is like, the MVP is coming up and you throw both the stat sheets up and like, player A versus player B, and it's like you don't see the players. You're gonna pick Stafford every single time. And that's what sucks because I. I do think Drake May. What he's been able to do. When we went to their training camp this year and we looked around at the talent level, being in locker rooms like that, we're like, oh, this is the team that's going to compete for second place. Like, they don't have necessarily the roster to be successful. Yeah, yeah. Kudos to them. Like, we're rooting for Vrabel. We're rooting for the big turnaround.

[Host 2]

It'll be a lot of gritty wins this season.

[Host 1]

No one saw this coming. And that's. I mean, that's clearly McDaniels Rabel culture. Everything that's taken place has been a huge help, but nothing. None of this truly happens without Drake. Man. What he's been able to do this year could be.

[Host 3]

Could be Drake May wins mvp. Matt Stafford wins offensive player of the year.

[Host 2]

It's gonna. What sucks, too, is there's been some cats that have unbelievable years, like Christian McCaffrey. JSN.

[Host 1]

Yep.

[Host 2]

I'm sure Miles Gary else. But the defense, they'll never win.

[Host 1]

But I'm saying. But I'm. I'm. Dude, he beat a record like this. Massive record. I. I think there should be some sort of, like, consideration for mvp.

[Host 2]

No, he should be in New York.

[Host 1]

Stick with me.

[Host 2]

Not on the Browns.

[Host 1]

We got a wrap.

[Host 2]

Not on the Brown.

[Host 1]

Let me know in the comments. Does, hey, does Miles Garrett deserve. Deserve some sort of consideration for MVP, bro? All time sack. That's been held for 20 years.

[Host 2]

That's not a clean 20 plus.

[Host 1]

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Can I just walk you through the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for just a moment?

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Early in the season, Baker Mayfield was kind of an MVP front runner for a little bit. He had four, count him, four last drive comebacks to win games. Early in the season, I think four of the last six games, injuries started to take place. Mike Evans catch himself a soft tish issue. Who's the running back? Bucky Irving. He catches himself an injury. He's out for the big meat and potatoes of the season. Baker Mayfield. You see, right before the bye week, he's got a shoulder issue going on as he. He's playing the Houston game, he falls on his knee. He can tell he's in a lot of pain, but some guy standing over him and he won't let that happen. So he stands up and get. Gets in the guy's face, comes back and wins that game. Boys, they had everything right in front of them, and now they're in Cancun. So our hearts, our souls, our prayers and our thoughts go out to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Could have been something special this year.

[Host 2]

Another sad thing about the Tampa Bay Buffalo. Tell me it could have been Levante David's last game on the football field. Levante David, one time Pro Bowler, which is crazy. One time first team All Pro, which is insane. Two time second team all pro crazy. Somebody that won't have those prime highlighted accolades when he gets five years removed and he comes into the hall of Fame conversation. But he will go down as the most underrated player in NFL defensive history. Can I read something?

[Host 1]

Read some.

[Host 2]

I took some notes.

[Host 1]

Please put some music behind this.

[Host 2]

As far as Bucks all time leader, he leads in force fumbles with 33. Derek Brooks is second with 25 fumble recoveries. Levante David has 20. Ronde Barber, somebody that we all know was second on the all time list with 11 tackles for loss. 177. The next closest guy was Gerald McCoy with 79. When you look at Levante David, he's had 35 career takeaways. That's in company with two guys, Ray Lewis and Brian Erlacher. 40 plus sacks. It's 35 career takeaways and 40 plus sacks. Only three guys have ever done that. Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacher and Levante Davis.

[Host 1]

David.

[Host 2]

He's one of two players with 1500 tackles, 40 sacks and 10 interceptions. One of four players with 40 plus sacks, 34 fumbles and 10 interceptions. I read the Pro bowl first team, all pro, second team, most underrated defensive player of all time.

[Host 1]

Wrote that twice in college.

[Host 2]

Two time all American, Big ten linebacker of the year. He's the Big 12 newcomer year because he only played two years and it's like number five top time or all time in leading tackles behind like Barrett Rood. Think I. I think he's second to Barrett Rude who play all four years. But Levante David will have a strong case and he will be argued because if he never gets in, this will be something that everybody argues for. The rest of time is on if Levante David should be in the hall of Fame.

[Host 1]

Every stat you had about him and the people that were either in front of him or right behind him. All hall of Famers.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And you didn't even bring up his greatest accolade, which was 26 tackles against the Michigan Wolverines in 2012. 26.

[Host 2]

Everybody in this room had half the heart that Levante David did. We would have beat that Michigan Wolverines team. Boys, talking about Levante.

[Host 1]

We have a very special guest about to come on the show in a span of less than a minute. So we are going to jump off.

[Host 2]

Can I just say this one again?

[Host 1]

Go ahead.

[Host 2]

One of two players with 1500 tackles, 40 sacks and 10 interceptions. The only other guy is Ray Lewis. Gold jacket. I had to say that again.

[Host 1]

Ray Lewis.

[Host 2]

Ray Lewis, bro. 35 career takeaways and 40 plus sacks. Only three guys have ever done it. Brian Erlacher, Ray Lewis and Levante David.

[Host 1]

No, you're absolutely right.

[Host 2]

Come on, man.

[Host 1]

He should be a hall of Famer. Should be a Hall of Famer.

[Host 2]

I wonder if he's going to play another year or not.

[Host 3]

Can I add one one thing on the Bucks so they're fans. You know, it was a rough end of the year, but they can savor knowing that they have Baker Mayfield. Still. Next year he'll be back. They got some good pieces. They might lose a future hall of Famer, but the Bucks do have a good roster, deep wide receiver room. Bucks fans should feel happy. 89 won the division this year, so they got a chance next year. You know. You know you got a chance.

[Host 2]

You always got a chance in the nfc.

[Host 1]

I'll tell you what, the Saints are going to be better next year. Saints are going to be a better squad next year. Falcons will see who their next head coach is anyway. Anywho.

[Host 2]

Anywho, we gotta go busting with the boys tomorrow.

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