NFL Week 7 Recap + Will Compton Reacts To Nebraska Loss & Marcus Freeman On Notre Dame’s Win vs USC

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys

Episode: NFL Week 7 Recap + Will Compton Reacts To Nebraska Loss & Marcus Freeman On Notre Dame’s Win vs USC
Release Date: October 20, 2025

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Overview

This jam-packed episode brings together former NFL players Will Compton and Taylor Lewan, plus the Bussin' With The Boys crew, to break down NFL Week 7 and major college football action. There's heated banter about top teams, candid discussion of heartbreaks (notably Will's Nebraska suffering), and a fantastic interview with Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman reflecting on their big win over USC. The Boys blend football analysis, fantasy takes, personal fandom drama, and frequent (hilarious) digressions for an unfiltered, fan-driven perspective on the pigskin weekend.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. NFL Week 7: Standouts, Coaching Races, and Game Reactions

Detroit Lions' Dominance & Same Game Parlays

• Heavy consensus on the Lions' strong run and the excitement around FanDuel's SGP options.
  • (03:09) "Heavy on the Lions. And I, I, I, you know my, I'm sorry about the Falcons." – Jack

49ers & Kyle Shanahan's Genius

• Discussion on how injuries haven't slowed the Niners, crediting Shanahan’s adaptability.
  • (04:25) Taylor: "Kyle Shanahan needs to be coach of the year. And I don't think it's, it's really close at this point..."
  • (05:57) Jack: "...he’s as creative as anybody on winning games a certain way, especially when they are absolutely counted out."

RBs Bijan Robinson vs Christian McCaffrey

• High praise for CMC—his high usage, resurgence, and versatility, plus the mentorship of Bijan.
  • (07:12) Taylor: "...the one thing that has stayed kind of true is Christian McCaffrey in the backfield, and he has taken on a heavy load..."

Coach of the Year Debate

• Shanahan, Todd Bowles, and Shane Steichen discussed as frontrunners.
  • Taylor credits Shanahan for offensive ingenuity, even with a depleted roster.

Colts’ Surge—From “Overrated” to “Contenders”

• The crew turns around on Indy, acknowledging their offensive creativity, physicality, and special teams spark from Amir Abdullah.
  • (11:11) Jack: "Eva, they are not overrated. I was wrong and I am sincerely so sorry."

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2. Quarterback & Coaching Storylines

QB Performances and Pressure

• Justin Herbert singled out for impressive stats amid adversity.
• Jalen Hurts praised for composure and A.J. Brown for big plays.

Titans’ Coaching Future: Jon Gruden, Arthur Smith, and the Wish List

• Lively debate on whether Gruden’s style fits and speculation about emerging and recycled coaching candidates.
  • (14:30) Taylor: "Titans fans in the back. How do we feel about that? Jon Gruden, is that your guy?"
• Arthur Smith and his journey from OC to head coach and back are dissected, with Taylor arguing that “failure teaches the best lessons.”

Steelers Defense Woes

• Despite big names and payroll, recurring issues with busted coverages and inconsistent play.
  • (23:48) Jack: "They need more of that defense right now. They are ass..."

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3. Personal Fandom Highs & Lows

Nebraska Meltdown: Will Compton’s Therapy Session

• Will wears his Husker heartbreak openly, describing overeating post-loss, feeling the pressure of expectations, and the pain of constant close defeats.
  • (86:06) Jack/Will: "I’ve ate ice cream four days in a row. I’m still healing... now we go to work."
• Banter with Taylor over whether he’s being “patted on the head,” pushing into an honest dialogue about what it means to support each other as friends and fans.

Fandom Identity Crisis: Clump’s College Allegiance

• Lighthearted but pointed ridicule for a colleague who flip-flops between Penn State, Tennessee, Vandy, and then Florida.
  • (41:05) Jack: "The Florida post in our group chat was wild to me because I’m like, bro, why didn’t you commit to Vanderbilt like you said you were going to?"
• Clump ultimately pledges to the Gators, but skepticism and mockery abound.
  • (42:23) Jack: "I would like to officially commit to the University of Florida. I will be a Florida Gators fan from here on out."

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4. College Football: Key Recaps & Analysis

Notre Dame's Big Win Over USC: Marcus Freeman Interview

• Coach Freeman discusses the blueprint for slowing down USC, the makings of a “bloody” win, and the defensive improvements ND has made (03:33 – 18:00).
  • (113:04) Marcus Freeman: "We said we had to make this one a bloody one... and our guys did a good job."
• In-depth on QB CJ Carr’s rapid progress and why owning mistakes fuels growth.
  • (116:27) Marcus Freeman: "He has this trait, competitiveness, leadership that very few people have."
• On being linked to coaching search rumors and the realities of leading Notre Dame amid college football’s shifting landscape.

Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, and Others

• Georgia’s second-half adjustments highlighted as “unmatched.”
• Alabama’s “infection” at wide receiver (germ) a point of amusement and awe.
• Michigan praised for a resilient win over Washington—Taylor’s vibrant retelling of taking his daughter to the game is a show highlight (80:33 and onward).

The Emotional Toll of Rivalry

• Tennessee-Bama stream discussed: Hosts debate how much "real" emotion to show on camera when their teams are playing. Some feel pressure as professionals, struggling to balance spectacle and authentic fandom.

South Carolina & “Cocktober”

• Grim acceptance that fighting for a bowl berth is “making a bowl game great again” (77:34) — nostalgia for old-school fandom before playoff-or-bust thinking.

Other College Notes

• BYU’s challenging backloaded schedule, possible Big 12 chaos.
• SEC and Big 12 positioning analyzed—with intrigue over Missouri, Vanderbilt, and A&M.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On coaching through adversity:
  “Be grateful for the pain...I’ve learned the most personally, and I think our team and our program has, through the losses, through the pain.”
  — Marcus Freeman, (121:44)

• On “Girl Dads” as better coaches:
  “Arguably the best coaches are all girl dads.”
  — Will, (08:56)

• On fan heartbreak:
  "There’s moments, wounds heal but scars don’t. The scar is there"
  — Hector, (95:06)

• On Colts turnaround:
  “The question now becomes, are the Colts contenders?”
  — Taylor, (11:49)

• “I think my favorite series of that game was the four minute drill...that took place to ice the game.”
  — Taylor on Eagles-Vikings, (31:32)

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Show Highlights

• Will Compton’s Nebraska Therapy:
  The most emotionally raw segment, Will describes coping with the Huskers’ loss with honesty and frustration, prompting reflection on how sports affect mood, identity, and relationships within the show.
• The Fandom Identity Arc:
  Clump’s saga of switching allegiances serves as both comic relief and a subtle dig at “bandwagon” fans, reinforcing how much the Boys value old-school, stick-with-it loyalty.
• Marcus Freeman Interview:
  Candid, insightful, and humble, Freeman eloquently details his personal and programmatic growth, shares how to get a team up after adversity, and invites the Boys to visit South Bend.

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Timestamps by Topic

• NFL Week 7 Reactions & Coach Talk: 03:09 – 09:07
• Colts’ status & Special Teams: 09:07 – 13:13
• QB/Coach Carousel (Titans, Gruden, Smith): 14:15 – 16:24
• Steelers Defense/Bengals-Jets Talk: 22:31 – 27:30
• Cowboys/Eagles/Playoff Chase: 33:06 – 35:12
• Clump’s Fandom/Cultural Riffing: 38:09 – 47:30
• Nebraska Meltdown Therapy: 86:06 – 96:40
• Marcus Freeman Interview: 111:32 – 133:07

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Tone & Style

Lighthearted and boisterous, the show moves between sharp football insight and uninhibited banter. The Boys wear their fandom on their sleeves—emotionally raw, confident, and always ready to call each other out for flip-flopping allegiances or bad takes. There’s deep respect for players and coaches, as seen in the thoughtful interview with Marcus Freeman, but never a lack of humor or willingness to stir up friendly controversy.

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Final Thoughts

Whether you're seeking NFL strategy, fantasy football nuggets, therapy for your fan heartbreak, or a masterclass in managing a major college program, this episode keeps the stakes high and the laughs rolling. The blend of gridiron analysis and personal storytelling offers something for die-hards and casuals alike—and the Marcus Freeman interview delivers rare, thoughtful coach perspective on leadership, perseverance, and gratitude in the face of adversity.

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Notable Closing Note:

• If you want to see passion, stick around for the next Florida-Tennessee stream—it’s about to get personal.

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Transcript

[Taylor]

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[Taylor]

Hey hey.

[Jack]

Heavy on the Lions.

[Taylor]

Heavy on the line.

[Jack]

Heavy on the Lions. And I, I, I, you know my, I'm sorry about the Falcons.

[Taylor]

Yeah that you. Hey, you know what happened exactly what we talked about with the penetrating defense.

[Jack]

I didn't get to watch it. I can't wait to watch it.

[Taylor]

The guy that will off to watch the entire film but the game itself, defensive line pressure. Because when you're going side to side as an offensive lineman and there's a 43 like you have to be super tight with your, your landmarks when you're running off the ball. It didn't look like they ran as much like Wanda and these outside zone 11 like they were in 11 a lot but it seemed like they're more or less like split zone type thing. And then that linebacker that took over for Fred Warner took it personal, did his best Fred Warner impression, took it personal, was literally out there like the grim reaper, stalking, stalking, stalking, firing in.

[Jack]

There which that fires me up. Dude. I even saw him in a post game presser saying he did hear all the noise. He felt a certain way about it. He showed up.

[Will]

I mean the backer that for the Falcons that you were hype on last week played pretty well.

[Jack]

Again, he's a good player.

[Matt Malone]

He had a pick, had a sack.

[Jack]

Yeah, dude, he's a good player. Kaden's a good player.

[Taylor]

No, they, it just goes like Kyle Shanahan needs to be coach of the year. And I don't think it's, it's really close at this point. Like there's nobody in the league doing more or less. He's got injuries all over the place. He's, he's missing both of his defensive stars and leaders. He's missing essentially everybody on his offensive side of the ball, other than cmc, they just got back George Kittle, but like starting quarterbacks out, he just paid $270 million. You're missing multiple wide receivers. Juwan Jennings played, but it's like it doesn't matter who is there. Kyle Shanahan and his office that he is running. They can literally be anybody in the NFL.

[Garrett]

Currently only third in the coach of the year.

[Taylor]

Who's. Who's above him?

[Jack]

Todd Bowles. I mean, if they win tonight, like what they've been doing with all the injuries, they've. Look at Coach Variable, see Ivan doing.

[Taylor]

Second at plus 350.

[Jack]

Shane Steichen, the Colts plus 125.

[Taylor]

That's another great one as well. Another great one. I just think like when I look at Todd Bowles and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, my brain doesn't go to coaching it very well. Should or could. It goes to Baker Mayfield is having an incredible year and he is literally putting this team on his shoulders to elevate his team. And I look at the 49ers, I guess it's when your quarterback goes out and it's like, who are you going to be? Shanahan has adapted his offense in a way that I don't see really any other coach doing. Variable I like as well, but it's like, yeah, Drake May's got a lot of confidence and he's playing with like a lesser talented team than the rest of the league. But I still give Kyle Shanahan like the nod at this point.

[Jack]

I don't think you're wrong in saying that just because he even said it in his presser after the game. But you have to win a certain way if you're the Niners and it's got to be a collective with special teams, defense, offense, the game plan. If you're going to control the ball or whatever, whatever the keys are, you need all three phases to be in sync. And so it is. It's like it's a tip of the captain because he's been like he's been. He's been. He's has been as creative as anybody on winning games a certain way, especially when they are absolutely counted out.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Versus the teams that they're playing with. The Rams, Falcons, like, yeah, he's been balling.

[Taylor]

And it's also the. A lot of credit needs to be given to CMC as well. Christian McCaffrey last year, he had both of those Cavs going on there. People, a lot of people like just logic would sit there and go okay. This is probably the beginning of the end of the Christian McCaffrey. We used to see him before, but since these injuries have taken place, the one thing that has stayed kind of True is Christian McCaffrey in the backfield, and he has taken on a heavy load, like, in the backfield, catching the ball, screens.

[Jack]

He was the best player on the field yesterday. People talk about Bijan Robinson. I want to say it was set on espn, but the. This is. This is the Saquon Barkley of this year. Yeah, like, this is somebody who's MVP caliber. Everything else, it's like CMC was the best player on the field.

[Taylor]

The best player on the field by far. I mean, you can't take. Bijan still had himself. You see what. Oh, he's a. Bijan is to that offense. But that offense is at full capacity. They have their starting offensive line. They have their wide receivers and everything, and Bijan just happens to be so good. It's like, regardless of all these weapons we have, whether it's Pitts or London or whoever, we got this guy that we can put into motion and, you know, keep him off the ball four or five yards and just throw it over to him on the sideline and have two guys block kind of, and have him make three guys miss and get seven yards.

[Will]

They were talking about that during the broadcast of the game last night, that in the offseason, Bijan hit up CMC just to pick his brain. They worked out together, but really to focus on that route, running, like, as a receiver. And so it was cool to see them compare the two. And then CMC still kind of, like, edge them out a little bit of like, I got this.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Mr. Miyagi still has some juice in the tank there a little bit. When it came to Bijan Robinson, Christian.

[Hector]

McCaffrey is number six in the NFL in receiving yards and number 11 in rushing yards.

[Jack]

That is.

[Taylor]

Yeah, he's having. He's having a vintage Christian McCaffrey year right now. No one's talking about it. No one's really talking. No one's really talking about the 49ers with a 5 and 1, right? 5 and 2? Yeah. Excuse me. They're 5. They're 5 and 2. I mean, they lost the first game of the year against Seattle. That's when all the injuries really took place. That game. You lose, like, five or six guys. But Shanahan and I go back to that Thursday night football game against the Rams where you have, like, offensive genius versus offensive genius. And that to Me is when I was like, this is. This needs to be coach of the year. And that really started to, like, kind of fumigate in my brain a little bit because it's what they're doing over there in San Francisco is. Is special.

[Jack]

Yeah. Kyle Shanahan's daughter escorting him off the field. We have one from Zobo Fo show tear talk. Does being a girl dad make someone a better coach? Absolutely.

[Taylor]

No question about it.

[Jack]

Proofs in the pudding right now.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

Arguably the best coaches are all girl dads.

[Jack]

Arguably.

[Taylor]

Arguably. Saving girl.

[Jack]

Having girls push you into coaching.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

[Jack]

Dude. I can't. Honestly, it's. Colts are good. Yeah, It. I'm beside myself on thinking people that might be calling them overrated. You're seeing the media a lot last week.

[Hector]

Who would do that? They clearly haven't watched.

[Jack]

And, you know they haven't watched them. They haven't watched.

[Taylor]

You know what I hate? You know what I hate? I hate that for you.

[Jack]

Yes. We're not gonna throw nobody. No, we're not. We're not.

[Taylor]

We're not gonna do anything other than that. But just know. And I want the public to know that. I hate it for you. I hate it for you. And it might not be the context of what you're thinking of right now, because it is true. Dude, the Colts, Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor, that offensive line. You even see Quinton Nelson having himself a little juice in LA yesterday. He's coming off the field, he's doing a little spin, getting the crowd hyped up for all the Colts fans that are actually there. But, buddy, they don't miss right now. Their play action incredible under center. Amazing. Jonathan Taylor can find a hole even when there's not a hole. Good news is there's always a hole because that offensive line is playing an elite level. And then that defensive line, who have been kind of quiet for the whole year, they get themselves in the mix. They start putting pressures on Justin Herbert. Yeah, there's been a lot of guys that have been injured. Both tackles are. I think they're on the, like, 18th and 19th tackle at this point. But the Colts took advantage of a situation. They. They saw where the injuries were and they took advantage of that and they put pressures on those bookends, and it really paid off for them. Really paid off for them. My LA Chargers pick is not looking good right now. I like to go on record saying if there were no injuries or lied, if we turn that off, I think it'd be looking pretty good right now.

[Hector]

Herbert. Herbert is number one in passing yards.

[Taylor]

In the NFL right now, which is insane. He's never want to pass.

[Jack]

Yeah, threw a bad pick in the end zone yesterday. Yeah, they're trying to get one in that two minute drill right before half.

[Taylor]

Yeah, he threw a bad pick in the end zone, but he is under. I think I'd like to see what his pressure rate is, how many times he's pressured because I don't think there's. I know there's not another quarterback that's taken more hits than him this year and he's still fighting off defensive linemen like a man and ripping it over there every single time he can. Yeah, it is very impressive.

[Jack]

We have a tear talk here from Eva unit. Underscore on on X. Hashtag tear talk. You know where this is going to go. You said the Colts were overrated at 5 and 1. Are the Colts still overrated at 6 and 1? Eva, they are not overrated. I was wrong and I am sincerely so sorry. I am. I'm glad you said that. Like, I'm glad you said that. We're not going to sit here and say that they're there. You know, I was forced into a situation.

[Taylor]

We're not going to say that.

[Jack]

Not going to say anything. Not going to say anything. But I was wrong. I am sorry. I will do my best to make this right. On national television this Thursday on Get up in the Morning.

[Taylor]

I think the question now becomes, are the Colts contenders? Like, is a team we can look at and be like, this is a team that can actually win a Super bowl this year.

[Matt Malone]

That offense is insane, dude.

[Taylor]

Their offense is, yes, we can definitely take that. Their offense is absolutely incredible. Their defense, like, they, they don't get a whole lot of pressure, but they're very much bend, don't break. And they put. They do a great job of scheming up the other, other offenses. They're very sticky in the back end of coverages. Their linebackers are flying around right now and even though from a defensive line standpoint they're not getting a lot of pressure, they are holding the gaps to where when there's really no run lanes between the two tackles. Like, they are playing very, very good football. I don't know very much about the special teams and all that, but they're a team that you look at special.

[Jack]

Teams, let me tell you. Amir Abdullah. Yeah, Amir Abdullah in what year? 11, 10, 11. Yeah, bro. And he's got himself. I think he's got him. The first game I saw that I'm like, oh, Amir's on the Colts now. Yeah, he was scoring a touchdown like in the third or fourth quarter. But also he had a massive kick return yesterday to where I'm just smile on my face again. This motherfucker ageless, still doing it. Still chip on his shoulder. Doesn't matter what role he's in. Nothing. The dude balls, man. So yeah, there, there's a, there's an update for this.

[Taylor]

So the Colts are contenders.

[Jack]

Special teams are nice.

[Taylor]

Special teams are nice. I like that. I mean they, they seem like they're going to be the team to win the south right now.

[Jack]

They, they are. They are playing really well. And Tyler Warren, I saw a clip of him going around blocking too. Some porn.

[Taylor]

Something about football porn. Man, tight ends that can do it all for you. Tight ends still one of the more underrated positions in all of the NFL's.

[Matt Malone]

Got some white boys that can. Like alec Pierce, number 14. Yeah, for whatever reason, he's just good for a 30 yard bomb every. Every week.

[Jack]

Yeah, every week with old Danny Dimes. Or there's. He's starting to get the nickname Danny Discount.

[Matt Malone]

I'm pretty sure it was just Indiana Jones.

[Jack]

No, Indiana Jones.

[Taylor]

Yeah, Indiana Jones. I'll tell you what, it's about to be Indiana Payday. Because that dude is going to get broke the fuck off after this season. Hasn't he already been broke off before? I think he signed a Honda for the Giants.

[Jack]

He got a big one with the Giants.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, no, he got one with the Giants and then yeah, he's, you know, else got broke off twice for two to two different teams. Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannehill.

[Jack]

Yeah, he did.

[Taylor]

Took his team to the AFC championship.

[Jack]

He did. We have a, a tear talk here. Switch up the, the teams. The conversation. You heard it here first. Jon Gruden will be the Titans next head coach. Hashtag tear talk from Hector. Hectoring71.

[Taylor]

Hectoring71 boys. Titans fans in the back. How do we feel about that? Jon Gruden, is that your guy?

[Garrett]

I. I don't think it'll happen. It'd be obviously fun. Electric for Nashville. I feel like someone on this bus said it, but they was you talking about how like he would not integrate well with most players. Like he would lock in with. Someone was saying how like you think he's going to be like a great fit for it. But the X's and O's, he's like kind of an like if you don't get his scheme and play like he kind of, you Got to be all in or all out. I don't know how much truth there is in that. I would love to see Gruden Nashville give us a nice little bump, but the odds of it happening I don't think are very likely.

[Jack]

Yeah, but do you have a list yet, Jack?

[Garrett]

I've said on Twitter, I mean Joe Brady would be a fun one. One, but at the same time it scares me to bring in an OC that has zero experience as a head coach the same way we just did with Callahan. So I don't think that would be the move. There's obviously the McCarthy's and. And Kingsberry's of the world kind of floating around there. So I don't know. I mean, you guys just talked with Marcus Freeman. Y' all were kind of like sprinkling that in there. I don't know.

[Jack]

I'm just hearing that Marcus Freeman is now getting an NFL job. Conversations.

[Taylor]

Yeah. I mean, and then who said that before we got in the bus that the tight. He was mentioned with the titans?

[Jack]

Just somebody.

[Taylor]

J.P. said it. J.P. just. Do you throw that out there?

[Jack]

No. I mean, no. He's seeing.

[Hector]

Dude, I literally saw it on Twitter.

[Taylor]

Okay. The thing that Joe Brady thing kind of makes me nervous if that is the path of the Titans want to go down because I think they want to get an offensive minded head coach. It's probably the smartest thing to do with the first overall pick. But Joe Brady, friend, future friend of the show, great guy already friend of the show already already friend of the show.

[Jack]

That's the gear. Bought the gear.

[Taylor]

Bought the gear. He's about it. He is the OC for the reigning MVP and he's got a guy in Josh Allen that's like pretty incredible. Josh Allen can do things that I don't know if it's yet to be seen whether or not Cam Ward can do those things. Yeah, that makes me. That makes me a little more nervous about that.

[Jack]

I think that's certainly something that could go against him is that he's been operating with Josh Allen, but he still has one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL with James Cook and the way that they mix it up. But you're right, it's. But again, I still think Cam Ward is a bona fide QB in the end.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I mean he. Dude, the. We can get into the Patriots Titans. Since we're already on the subject. That first half was extremely competitive, extremely awesome. First quarter was like holy quarter.

[Jack]

We was up, baby.

[Taylor]

Flipping the script.

[Garrett]

First quarter.

[Jack]

How was it when Brave came into.

[Garrett]

The stadium, there wasn't like a whole like welcome back Mike Vrabel. And I was there pretty early. I usually go to like one of my friend's family's tailgate and post Tennessee Bama loss. I truly didn't want to be around anyone. So I got in the stadium, I think with like 38 minutes left on the running clock. And I'm just sitting in my seat just kind of watching the guys warm up, doing that whole dance. But there wasn't like a whole like boo variable or like big cheers. The big thing was I've been in many games in Nissan Stadium over the course of my life and seen many away teams take over. I truly don't think that there was a bigger takeover than there was yesterday with the Patriots fans. Whether it's because like the Patriots had such a massive run and you know, in the Brady and Belichick era because they just have fans in every market or if it's because people want to support Vrabel, you know what I mean?

[Jack]

Do you feel like they're, they're fans out there that might have just put on the Patriot gear for the day?

[Garrett]

I think there are fans that like claim to be a Patriots fan, but like last year they weren't speaking up for the Patriots, you know what I mean? Like, like now, now that they're five and two, they're flying the flag. I mean, and I, I forget like those, they're, they're pricks. So many people were so mean to me. I was literally in the bathroom peeing, waiting for a urinal open up. And a guy looks back and goes, so like, how bad is it being a Titans fan? And I, it's some like 22 year old kid in a Patriots jersey. I was like, well, you're here. And I'm like, in my head I'm like, just don't do this. Like just piss and get out. And he's p like two away from me and I'm done. But I see him go and I'm like, I'm going to just hold my dick for a sec and let him scatter out. I kind of do one of those glances over. He's waiting. He's not washing his hands, he's waiting. And I'm like, oh, he wants to say some other stuff. So the Titans like how every NFL one is, there's two entrances, there's an entrance and exit. I go out the entrance to try and avoid him. He hawks me down and silver lining, he's like, hey man, you work for busting, don't you? He's like, dude, I appreciate what y' all do so much. He's like, my Tuesday mornings, my whole routine revolves around your own show. And, like, it was a full 180. And he's like, hey, sorry for, like, bringing up, like, the fan base. He's like, I've lived in Nashville for three years now. And I was like. I was like, all good, bro. Like, we had, like, a good combo and it was nice. So other than him, pretty much, he.

[Jack]

Saw the reaction he got. He's like, oh, man.

[Taylor]

I mean, really fumble that. Because he saw, oh, that's corner this. Try to poke you a little bit.

[Garrett]

Like, going into half, we immediately get a fumble and they score, and then they get another score it. And so I'm just sitting there. I'm like, hey, man, like, kick a dude while he's down. Sure.

[Jack]

He might be thinking he might get some banter from you, like, hey, how bad is it being a Titans fan? You're like, oh. But then he realized, like, oh, they're. They're crumbled. No, I need to not.

[Garrett]

I was about to get pissed off. Like, I wasn't drinking and stuff, so I was supposed to be like a sober. Just, like, stirring, like, off dude.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Garrett]

But he ended up being a really nice guy.

[Taylor]

Tell somebody to go themselves.

[Garrett]

Shout out Brendan.

[Marcus Freeman]

He.

[Garrett]

He ended up being a cool guy. But, yeah, it's a tough day. Nashville always is. It was just a tough weekend as a Tennessee.

[Jack]

It was.

[Taylor]

It was a tough weekend for Jackson.

[Garrett]

I was happy that last night, I end up. I. I kind of. I was watching the Sunday night game and I ended up just like, carving pumpkins, which was a nice. Kind of just reset. I need to just get away from sports, just, like, get grounded and. And then watch some gratitude.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Just try and remember the smell the flowers for a second.

[Garrett]

So I don't know who's going to be the next coach. If it's John Gruden, you would hear zero complaints from me. It would be electric. I just don't know if Jon Gruden's gonna come back into the NFL again.

[Taylor]

A guy that I love for it. Arthur Smith.

[Garrett]

Yeah. I think also, you know, you see what he did when he's OC Goes to be Atlanta's and then he goes to Pittsburgh and now he's OC and it's like, does he make.

[Taylor]

That's why I like it because, like.

[Garrett]

Him going back to be.

[Taylor]

I like him becoming. Going back to coach. Very rarely do you see not very rarely, but a lot of times you see a guy being a coordinator, he goes, becomes a head coach. It doesn't work, but they learn a bunch of lessons through that process. They go back to being oc, establish and show that they are still very good at their job, become a head coach again, and then they can put the correct pieces around them to help them where they failed before. And I think Arthur, knowing the franchise, understanding it's a very unique franchise, right. The, the medium market is pretty bad. You're not having like, you're not going to have all the resources in the world. But he's lived, he's been through it, and he's worked through from like essentially a GA position all the way to coordinator then leaving. So I think you need a guy to understand the type of franchise you're walking into. And that's why I think Arthur's a great fit for it because he has the Atlanta experience to be like, hey, these, this is where I went wrong and this is where I can get better. And when he was in Atlanta, he really didn't have a quarterback. Yeah, now he's. Now he has a place to have a quarterback. If you look at the Steelers game, Steelers versus the Bengals obviously didn't go the Steelers way. We talked about the way the Atlanta Falcons run 11 personnel wide zone. There's not a team in the league that's running 12, 13 personnel wide zone better than the other Pittsburgh Steelers. They are running the plays. We would run would be 19, which would be your 12 personnel, your quattros, your Zaps, your Zorros, all of those are kind of the same play with a little extra something on it. Every single little extra motion or something. He does an amazing job of calling those plays and knowing the rotation and when to get in and out of those plays. I'm very impressed with his play calling right now. Very impressed with what's going on and utilizing like the pieces he has at the Steelers right now.

[Jack]

You need this combo to be like a slow burn. You don't want him to be peaking right now. You want the Steelers. You want the Steelers to right the ship. Right the ship, take over this division because it's still their division to lose. Tough loss against the Bengals defense, man, it's nuts. We actually. Here, here's a tear talk right here from Jag JPE J08. Tear Talk is a Steelers defense actually ass. It's like, I don't want to say that because they have a lot of.

[Taylor]

Dudes, a lot of names for sure.

[Jack]

A Lot of names, a lot of dudes. Like, you got Highsmith, you got Watt, you got Hayward, you got Cole Holcomb, Patrick Queen, Jalen Ramsey, you got all these guys. It's the highest paid defense in the league. But as it stands right now, it's like, bro, they need more of that defense right now. They are ass like they. They're going to have to compliment that offense well because the offense can move the ball. Aaron Rodgers out there slinging that rock run game is, is. Is very well. That massive ass tight end.

[Taylor]

Yeah, Washington, Darnell Washington. Hey, he's tipping The Toledo's at 320 right now. I heard. Really 320 pounds.

[Jack]

Dude, that is a monster of a human being out there.

[Taylor]

And also they run extra tackles. So they have six offensive linemen in the game with him.

[Jack]

They need more of that defense.

[Taylor]

They need more.

[Jack]

Can't drop that game against the Bengals. Hats off to Joe Flacco.

[Taylor]

And it's a safe. When you, when you watch the, the Seahawks game they had a few weeks ago and we were kind of going over when they're in man coverage and they have the two safeties and one safety, supposed to knock off one and kind of stay with the receiver. And there was a guy in the back of the end zone that ended up catching a touchdown. And these same problems are happening again. It's not guys being bad at football. It's just blatant miscommunications that are taking place in this defense to where it's like, yeah, you have talent, all the names you just said are good football players. But there's something going on, especially in the back end of that defense where they are just not on the same page because there are guys wide open. The fact that you have Jamar Chase said, was it a league record or personal record? His personal record targeted and receptions in a game, buddy, you get through the second quarter of that game, you go and make at the very minimum halftime and go, hey, let's just take away this guy. And he was running free on multiple occasions times where you're just like, bro, how the is he still open? You see in the TV copy, but you also see it when you break down the film. It's like this dude. Guys think other dudes are coming in to take over and they're bailing in a certain other areas of the defense. And either this guy's bailing too soon or this guy's not coming over. But this guy, he has five, six yards of space in between when he's catching the Football. And it's just like that is one of the best players in the NFL and you have a 42 year old quarterback who is throwing the ball probably as good as he ever has. Like 2016.

[Jack]

I just see how much fun that really both of them are having at that age. It's like the WD40 was out Thursday Night Football. They're slinging the rock that over what they have over 600 yards.

[Matt Malone]

Just under 600.

[Taylor]

Just under 600. I would disagree. I would disagree that they're both having fun. I mean, how many times did it go over to Aaron Rodgers just chewing somebody's ass out, right?

[Jack]

No doubt, no doubt. But when a play is made, oh, hey. And then the boy, the tackle that jumped on him after the touchdown, oh my God.

[Taylor]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Garrett]

He had injured him, right?

[Jack]

And people are like, yo, he knows that.

[Taylor]

He's like, I'm one. I'm a gust of win away, wind away.

[Jack]

People are like, Aaron's being too much. He's like, no, bro, you have to get up and be like, dog, I'm old. Like, what are you doing?

[Will]

If it was offensive player jumping on.

[Taylor]

Him, dude, it's like going up to an old dog and be like, hey, hey. It's like that dog's gonna yelp eventually. Like, you need to leave the dog alone.

[Jack]

It's if in real time Taylor did this. If Taylor did this to me now, I would be just like, I'd be just so mad. Like, bro, you know my.

[Taylor]

I'm pretty sure that's happened in the last three weeks. But no, no doubt. Like. And this cat, 77, which, by the way, he played a great football game against the Bengals, even though the be password sucks. I would 100% be this guy to Aaron Rodgers and get chewed out. I get so juiced up after a play, I'm like a dog wagging a snail.

[Jack]

Hey, how we doing?

[Taylor]

He's like, get the off me. What are you doing? Just knocks him over.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Aaron Rodgers is a cat. Don't pet him.

[Taylor]

Don't pet him. Like, when he wants food, he'll weed between your legs for a second. Other than that, leave him alone. He hits his Mario. He's excited. Look at this, bro. Oh, my. And he finishes the tackle too, which is just crazy. Just crazy. But then you got Joe Flacco on the other side. Who knows? He's just on borrowed time. Like, Aaron Rodgers, smarter than everybody else. Professor at mit. Somebody said that in the stream last week. He's a guy that's like, he knows he could probably still win a Super bowl, but Joe Flacco is like borrowed time. Don't care. I'm gonna sling it. He's got these weapons on the perimeter now. He's like, fuck it. Let's see what happens out here.

[Jack]

I think Joe knows he can still be nasty and elite. Not like I'm here with a massive chip on my shoulder. I love all his perspective to where he's like, all of his family's there. Like, they understand the moment. He's still in. But Joe Flacco, can I. If the defense for the Steelers, they do not get halfway better, like, decent. That north is going to get interesting because Joe can get the ball out fast. His timing is really good. They have weapons on the outside. Ravens are still sitting there with the Ravens. One in five.

[Taylor]

One in five.

[Jack]

There's still, like, Lamar Jackson back. It is the Steelers division to lose. But if they. If the Ravens just start to get spicy. Browns are done. Browns ain't making it.

[Matt Malone]

Browns won last week.

[Jack]

I know, but they.

[Taylor]

They're done, dude.

[Jack]

They're.

[Taylor]

I'm telling you, they beat the Miami Dolphins.

[Jack]

It's gonna. It's gonna. It's gonna be interesting between those three teams with the Bengals, the Ravens, and the Steelers.

[Taylor]

Yeah, the Miami Dolphins, dude, they. I mean, they're all pulling up to the game with handicap stickers on their rearview mirror. Like, that team is done.

[Jack]

They did win.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Yeah, they won. Their defense got like 20 points in fantasy. It was crazy. Adam. Adam.

[Hector]

Joe the best Joe on the Bengals.

[Taylor]

Oh, is there a quarterback controversy taking place in Cincinnati right now?

[Hector]

One of them can get the ball out. The other one maybe holds on to it a little bit too long.

[Jack]

Maybe a spot for Spencer Rattler to get up there.

[Hector]

I say all this to say, forget about Rattler's three interception game. He could fit in great.

[Taylor]

Dude. How are we feeling about everybody but Clump? How are we feeling about the Philadelphia Eagles right now?

[Jack]

I have to watch the game. I didn't watch the game. I'm sitting there kind of, like, pissed off following it on the ESPN app, because that was another game that I loved. Vikings beating the Eagles. And now I'm coming out of it.

[Taylor]

Goes, beat the Vikings.

[Jack]

All right. Yeah, Well, I had, like. I'm thinking, this is great. This is a game I love. Vikings beating the Eagles, and then they come out of it. See, A.J. brown's getting touchdowns. Jalen hurts like, a perfect pass rate. The most bizarre, like, head spin zone that I'm in. I like, I have to watch the tape before. I have an opinion. But it just seems like they handled business. It seems like the Eagles handled business. The. The conversations that took place a couple weeks ago, they didn't come to fruition until this past weekend against the Vikings. Maybe the Eagles are back.

[Garrett]

I don't know.

[Will]

Jalen was on fire.

[Taylor]

Jalen was on fire. Jalen still.

[Jack]

And again, Saquon didn't really have 3.1 yards basic football liability for me right now.

[Matt Malone]

I'm pissed.

[Taylor]

Shout out Saquon though, because somebody was saying this in the pre pro meeting. Club was saying this where Saquon, they asked Saquon Barkley about him having an off day and he's like our quarterback just had a perfect password. Like why are you even talking to me about this? Like we won.

[Jack]

Damn.

[Taylor]

Like that's a guy right there.

[Jack]

But it seems like they won in such a way offensively to where every conversation that was boiling and starting to crack the surface and everything else like the fall was going to happen seems like they played and won in a certain way to where they just shut everybody up.

[Taylor]

So here's, here's, here's my takeaways. Yeah, here's my takeaways from that game. I think Jalen Hurts played a very good game. There's still throws that he had kind of weird what Orlovsky was talking about. He has throws right in front of him but he's waiting so long to pull a trigger because of the risk aversion. But a lot of these plays that he was able to get A.J. brown on his touchdown, it was has a couple reads, breaks out of the pocket, extends the play a little bit and then sees AJ and puts it in the perfect spot. Devontae Smith, multiple plays in the middle of the field, wide open, nobody else around him. So yeah, Jalen Hurts played a great game. My favorite series of that game was the four minute drill that took place to ice the game because Carson Wentz, he 100% was pressing. You could see that he was trying to beat the Eagles. It was a very personal game and it's obviously he had his role with the Eagles. He ends up getting, you know, Nick Foles takes over, he goes somewhere else. But people forget that Carson wins. Was on the Chiefs last year when the Chiefs lost Super bowl to the Eagles. So this is more personal and personal. He's pressing the ball down the field. But the four minute drill, they go, they run the ball a couple times. They have very little success to where you're thinking, oh shit, the Vikings are going to Be able to come back and maybe Carson Wentz has the series.

[Jack]

Like in highlights they were talking about. I think I caught a moment of that game. They're talking about just missed ops that the Vikings had missed up.

[Taylor]

Well, they had a pick six. They had what he throw two picks.

[Matt Malone]

In the game, but he also the field goal. They couldn't score in the red zone, right?

[Taylor]

They couldn't score in the red zone. Defense, from a cornerback standpoint, they stood up pretty well. But that four minute drill, they run the ball once, it doesn't go their way. I think they get one, maybe two yards. The next play they run the classic as classic gets AJ Brown slant. Jalen hurts, throws it behind him to where it's like, what a horrible missed throw. And now stops the clock. And you're like, I did.

[Jack]

I saw that highlight.

[Taylor]

So you're sitting there like, yeah, this is when you're thinking, oh my God, the Vikings are about to take over and Carson Wentz is going to will his team into a W right here. Then the next play, AJ Brown slant go and the corner bites on the slant, which all of us would. But it was an incredible play. Call goes, AJ Gets it and that's the end of the game.

[Jack]

That's. When I was young, I saw that last part.

[Taylor]

It was right there, man. You're like, I still have question marks with the Eagles though. Like the offensive line is still not. They're not blocking very well. They. What I did notice though is they played the game from more under center, so they're like kind of hearing the noise and adapting to the noise a little bit and hearing Drew Brees talk about being under center and how that must changes everything, like, really makes me think, okay, this needs to be an under center team more often than not. So it's. It'll be interesting. That whole division is kind of wild too, because you look at the Cowboys commanders, everyone thought that game was going to be really close, bro.

[Jack]

Cowboys. I can't wait to watch that one.

[Taylor]

Dude, their defense, way more, man. Way more disguise. Like, it was like. I'm thinking to myself, like, you think.

[Jack]

He'S watching Willie boy?

[Taylor]

I think Hebrew flu is watching Willie boy on Thursdays. And he's like, oh, this is this team like, because I mean, they put up 44 points, bro. They put up 44 points as an offense. And the question mark that we had about George Pickens, is he going to be okay with CD Saw that he.

[Jack]

Had a lot of reception.

[Taylor]

It was amazing. And it was. Pickens was making catches it's like, oh, I see why people say he's the most talented wide receiver in the world. Like, little to no separation catching the ball. Dak Prescott's putting it right in the bucket at times. Yes, bro. Yeah, bro. He was running like this. Boop. And it was.

[Jack]

I saw sick. I saw a post on X2, and I'm honestly, I'm kind of about it. Do whatever you can. The picks figure out a way to get Max Crosby or Trey Hendrickson. Not Hendrickson, Jeffrey Simmons.

[Taylor]

Okay, so I saw a tweet the other day.

[Jack]

I did. I saw that. And like, you know, it's obviously on exit. Somebody, like, trying to play a game, whatever else. But I am thinking like, yeah, bro, go get somebody on that defensive line and go all in to win the super bowl this year because they have the offense to do it.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

What are they, three, three and one?

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, three.

[Taylor]

Three and one right now. And I'm not. I'm not buying the Eagles. I love the Giants moxie and energy.

[Jack]

Giants got something happening.

[Taylor]

They got. They got something happening right now. I don't think they're going to be contenders this year, but I do what they think. What I think happened is Dable has saved his job.

[Jack]

Yeah. Because you're you.

[Matt Malone]

You.

[Jack]

No matter how the year goes, I think Dable's got to stay there.

[Taylor]

Yeah, he's got to stay there because you can't run into a situation you're like with the Titans where you go and draft quarterback, you have an offensive guy, it doesn't work out. Now, who are you going to get? Now was he the guy, Was he not the guy at that whole thing, that song and dance? Dable. They don't have Malik neighbors. And bro, they are still against that Denver Broncos defense, moving the ball. Not only get like getting chunk plays, but like sustaining drives. Take like, it was very, very impressive watching.

[Jack]

And Jackson's got it.

[Taylor]

He's got it, bro.

[Jack]

Jackson's got it. He's going to continue to get better. Even Sean Payton, after the game, he's talking about how he was talking to maybe the GM of the Giants and you know, he's like, I was hoping you guys were going to hold on to him. Pass way past our game and stuff. But just getting the tip of the cap from somebody like Sean Payton as.

[Taylor]

Well, like Jackson dart Russell Wilson taking a crazy stray right there.

[Jack]

I did see one. I did see one tear talk earlier. I think Clump's name was in it.

[Hector]

As you're looking for it. Is Zach the best quarterback right now.

[Jack]

Oh, here we go.

[Taylor]

I mean, yeah, I think so.

[Jack]

I mean, there's gotta be. The argument's definitely there because it goes.

[Taylor]

Where does your. What is your brain go? It goes to Matt Stafford. It goes Baker Mayfield. It was a Patrick Mahomes, Drake May.

[Jack]

I think Drake May's in the cut.

[Garrett]

Not.

[Jack]

Not like best in the league. But Drake is starting to ascend in.

[Taylor]

This is over 30 yards passes over 30 yards. Drake May is throwing at 75% right now. Sammy D. Sammy D. Like, it's a. This is. This is a great year for quarterbacks.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Danny Dimes out there.

[Jack]

Here's the tear talk. This is from underscore, Jack McPherson. This is from Jack, not a burner. Thank you for tapping into the tear talk. Jack is clump, the biggest fraud at the office. Hashtag tear talk.

[Garrett]

And the only answer is yes. And so to give a little context, you'll have your time.

[Taylor]

I promise.

[Garrett]

Klump before the season was like, dude, the him and his hey, it's Ryan.

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[Garrett]

Rush Stanley relocated here from pa. He was like, we're gonna be Tennessee fans. Like we're joining. And then all year long, he's been teetering and he's here and he's there. And then two weeks ago he said on our live stream that he was going to do a verbal commitment to his fandom for the rest of his life and he's college football, college football. He's wearing a Tennessee hat. When he made this statement last week. He comes into the stream last week again, doesn't stand on, on the word. You see me wearing this Alabama jersey. I honor my commitments and my bets. Clump says he's gonna make a commitment there. Doesn't do it at halftime. He sends a pre or a written notes app after Tennessee lose to Bama saying that he will be joining the Florida Gators in their living in Tennessee. He's going to choose one of our biggest rivals and I just don't know this point if it's just a bit, if it's all for the fun and, and stuff but me and Clump are co fantasy managers and I told him before this I go just know my heart is no longer with this team for the rest of the year. Oh I, I, I don't.

[Jack]

Jack said everybody's on the block.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah, it's a fire sale.

[Garrett]

Throw us some trades, whatever you want, I'll consider it.

[Jack]

But, but also going into that. So you know last week whenever we were having that little dust up at the shop on what real fandom is. Yeah Malone being all these conversations are taking place, there's arguing going on and I was aware of Klump saying he was going to commit this weekend to his college football team and at the time he's kind of asking my thoughts. Hey, how would you like I kind of want to be a Vanderbilt Commodores. Like we, my kids, like we're all here. They're going to grow up, we're going to be in Nashville. Like I think it'd be fun. Would you respect me as like a Vanderbilt? I was like bro, I think you'd be in the caterpillar stage. But it wouldn't be like oh you're a die hard Vandy fan. It's going to take a couple of years. Everything else. But if you know the roster inside and out and that's how you want to do it with your fam now that you're here in Nashville and your kids are going to grow up Bandy fans and all that, I'm thinking yeah bro, you can for sure.

[Garrett]

I would have respected him taking Vandy a hundred times more than him taking Florida because it makes sense.

[Jack]

The Florida one came out of nowhere. Even when, even, even when the argument started happening kind of after the stream.

[Garrett]

Here, and he's like, oh, it's going to be a new era. And it's the first time the vaults play Florida on the back end of the season. So he knows that they're clump claims that he didn't know Tennessee and Florida were rivals, but I guarantee he knows that we play them in three weeks.

[Jack]

That I would, I would buy that because again, that the Florida thing came out of nowhere. When he, when we were talking last week, I was like, oh, he's wanting to know if it's cool if he becomes a Vandy fan. I'm like, dude, absolutely. Like, no one's going to say, like, you're Die Hard right out of the gate, but if you're here and you're investing, go to a couple games in.

[Garrett]

Proximity, it's the closest school, they're doing well. Like, you get a little flack from it being like, oh, they're finally good. They're, you know, whatever.

[Jack]

Yeah, people are going to say bandwagon, but it's like, as long as you're staying a Vanderbilt guy and your kids are here and you're like wanting to take them to games, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'd. I'd respect that. Like, you're not going to be in those. You're not going to be in the Die Hards yet, but it's going to take a couple of years, but absolutely. I think that's a good move.

[Hector]

He's never taken his kid to a Florida game.

[Jack]

The Florida post in our group chat was wild to me because I'm like, bro, why didn't you commit to Vanderbilt like you said you were going to? Because they just had a massive win against lsu. Like, it would have been perfect for him.

[Taylor]

And.

[Garrett]

And then earlier in the shop, he tried to, like, double back and he's like, well, dud. It was just a verbal commitment. And I go, you literally wrote a presser on your commitment. Quite literally the opposite.

[Jack]

You know, he's a high school football recruiting sicko.

[Garrett]

Yeah. And he.

[Jack]

I'm any of it on camera, please respect my decision.

[Garrett]

And so you can.

[Taylor]

So funny. After all that, I went on my phone and texted Jack a bunch of texts about trades. Came back to it, you guys were still shitting on him. And he just goes, respect my decision. Company have to say, give any players to Taylor. All I have to say is focus.

[Jack]

On who the next head coach of our football team is going to be moving forward. Billy Napier, thank you for everything. You've done for Florida, but we are focused on. We are focused on the next head.

[Taylor]

Coach at the university.

[Jack]

So you're. You're officially a Florida Gator.

[Will]

Who do you want?

[Jack]

Who do I want as the next head coach of the Florida Gators? Time out. Are you officially a Florida Gator? I would like to officially commit to the University of Florida. I will be a Florida Gators fan from here on out. I will live and die for the Florida Gators.

[Taylor]

This reminds me of that kid. I don't know if he like committed to Georgia and his wife. His mom was all about Alabama. Yeah, she like gets him a. Walks away. This has got that energy written all over it. Clump kick kick kid. Oh, is she.

[Jack]

Obviously they played Tennessee in a few weeks, but is this like a. It's on fire. Buy low. Get in while the chaos is happening.

[Taylor]

What.

[Jack]

What's the thought process behind this?

[Will]

Yes.

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Jack]

No, I am kind of like I don't understand why not Vandy?

[Taylor]

My.

[Jack]

My college football fandom obviously we all know has been kind weird thing. But when I was no longer a Penn State fan, I did actually like, like Florida Gators with Tim Tebow and stuff.

[Taylor]

So there's like some everybody like Jack like perspective.

[Jack]

I'm answering the question. I'm answering the question. You got something right here locally.

[Taylor]

Can I be honest? If you are clump, why buy Vandy stock high? Because after this year you lose Diego Pavia. Maybe people are talking about Clark Lee. He might be the man for a lot of these big jobs coming up right now. Could be the next Florida. It might be a. It might be a good op for you to go find a talented football team that's in the dumpster right now. And so then spins on a couple of years. You said they'd be like, I've been on the Florida Gators since they fired Billy Napier and this is a long move. We are kind of see it working for him right now.

[Jack]

The fact that me typing out a notes on. On an iPhone is led to this is a major win already as a Florida Gators fan, I am already one and oh, you're.

[Taylor]

As a Florida Gators.

[Garrett]

Oh, you're not sick of chaos commitment after the game.

[Jack]

My thought on I'm saying this is the game. Kids are here. Like you can clearly go to games throughout the year and have like fun.

[Taylor]

Club doesn't care about his kids club cares about everybody in the office quietly hating him. That's what club cares about. But having something that dangle over them.

[Jack]

In about five years when his son is just asking dad, why are we Florida Gator fans? And he's just breaking down this entire process.

[Taylor]

So funny. You know what's up? You know what's up is that Tennessee Florida game is going to be a nail biter.

[Garrett]

It is. And we historically in the swamp, we struggle. And so I, I'm not even gonna get down that. I just want Clump to know in 15 years, when JJ goes to college and Clump has to pay $90,000 for him to go to Florida, I'm gonna be sitting there smoking a cigar, drinking a cup of coffee, going, I told you so.

[Jack]

That would be funny. That would be ironic.

[Taylor]

The irony would be great. That would be. But at that point, you're 15 years in three now. Yeah. Two, three natties deep. Who knows? JJ has. Well, I mean, he has a ball shirt. Yeah. I mean, J.J. wants to be a.

[Garrett]

Volunteer Tennessee fan whenever he wants. I, I hate that his dad, literally.

[Taylor]

You would be less mad if he's like, I'm gonna take Vanderbilt.

[Garrett]

Yeah. Because by proximity it makes sense. It's like I can't be upset that like the team that plays 10 minutes from where we're recording right now, he wants to be a fan of. They're doing well. We have guys who've worked at the shop who are active players, friends of the show. It all makes sense. It feels very personal. It feels very clump rage, baby. And I'm falling for it every which way. And that's okay. But that's because I have true fandom with the balls.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Garrett]

I don't have this ticky tacky. I was a Penn State fan once. They sucked. I'm gonna be Tennessee.

[Taylor]

Sucked. For the record, I think there was other things that happened. Go ahead. Clark did like Joe Paul.

[Jack]

I hated Joe Paul.

[Taylor]

Because you loved him.

[Jack]

That's when you started to fall off the Penn State bandwagon.

[Taylor]

Right.

[Jack]

When all this the was coming out. Pennsylvania. There's some weird people. It's like a cult at Penn State.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

[Jack]

I don't want to get down this rabbit hole. Right. But that sounds like just for people that are listening that are coming on to this, you know, what's all this going on with Clump and Jack and everything else? Like your fandom with Penn State didn't happen because of what's happening this year when, when the, the Penn State sanctions.

[Taylor]

And stuff started coming on, I've became.

[Jack]

A Penn State hater. The opposite.

[Taylor]

Okay, hey, can we just. Let's move on. We had another tear talk Here, we're gonna. We'll just do a different subject. Dude, this one comes from. This one comes from. Jeremy Clump at Nutty X Professor. Jj, will Tennessee miss the College Football Playoff? Now, hashtag tear talk.

[Hector]

Who said that?

[Taylor]

Jeremy Clump at Nutty X Professor, will Tennessee miss the college football. All right, all right, all right. I will go on record and say.

[Jack]

Yes, the Tennessee Vols will miss the College Football Playoff because they will lose to the Florida Gators this year.

[Garrett]

I have nothing to say.

[Jack]

Jack. Again, massive opportunity. Anytime JJ's coming to the shop. This is a vulnerable. This a vulnerable kid right now. You can groom him to be a Tennessee. I want it to be known. I'm not gonna. I'm not going to make JJ a Florida Gators fan if he wants to be a Tennessee fan. I think that's all awesome because we live here. Or Vandy fan, for what it's worth.

[Garrett]

The whole reason you did this shtick is so that your kids could be fans growing up.

[Jack]

I.

[Taylor]

Listen. If you. If you're a football fan, one of the main reasons to have children is to instill the same brainwash into them. So if you're going to be a Florida Gator fan, you need to take them to Gainesville, go pet some alligators and show them what it's like to be a Florida fan. Get on Yelp, get on Reddit, figure out all the things to do there. Yep. And get JJ's ass to be a Florida Gator fan.

[Jack]

Telling you, this is an expensive team.

[Matt Malone]

To be a fan of.

[Jack]

I think it's. I think it would be awesome if JJ was a Tennessee fan. Like, JJ is going to be prime one day to where he's going to be in his dad's face talking about how shitty Florida is when Tennessee wins.

[Taylor]

Yeah. As a dad who's recently brainwashed his youngest child, like, it's a great feeling when your kids start to come to the. Come to your side. My oldest now, she was almost rooting for Washington because of the Huskies. She's all. She's infatuated with those damn mascots. Yeah, we do. Yeah. Put it down. Let's. Let's see. I think that's a valid question, though.

[Garrett]

We've got Kentucky this week. We're set on Kentucky. That's what matters. Then we have Oklahoma, then we have Florida, then we have New Mexico State, and then we end with Vandy. Obviously, Vandy. Vandy's got lucky.

[Taylor]

He's not New Mexico. That's a good ball club.

[Garrett]

Yeah. Vandy's got Some games coming up as well. Oklahoma at home is big for us. I think we, we can handle that. Florida obviously is scary, but also Florida is not great this year and now they have this horrible juju surrounding their team. That is Jeremy Klum. So honestly, I've never felt better in my Life. So, yeah, 10 and 2. We go to the playoffs, we watch Florida cry at home, and JJ can come hang with me.

[Taylor]

This is, this is the greatest thing about long form media is we got to sit here and watch you think through that entire thought and get to your conclusion. If this was like Sports center, you'd have to say, I feel very good about Florida. Yeah, we gotta go to break. That was nice.

[Matt Malone]

Speaking of the balls, I think we have one more tear talk up on the screen.

[Jack]

Oh, Matt Malone.

[Taylor]

This is not a tear talk. This is hashtag full send. Wrong show, man. Vol's lost, but I'm still hitting the bar. That's called dedication.

[Jack]

Well, we're not gonna waste any time on Matt Malone and his family.

[Garrett]

Hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick up for my boy. This is some AI generated Sherm bullshit. I know what Matt Malone did and I'm gonna stick up because Matt actually brought some juice to the stream and he's creeping. No, it's not real. So I gotta stick up for my boy, Matt Malone. He did not go out after the game. I wouldn't blame him if he did, you know, but hey, Sherm, you're a.

[Taylor]

Fucking problem with this AI thing like you. You're going to be. You're part of the issue in the world when it comes to AI.

[Jack]

I didn't see anything.

[Taylor]

You just told Mitch to his face it was real.

[Matt Malone]

I literally, I literally looked at Sherm and like, is that real? And he's like, yeah.

[Garrett]

I would literally sit him down, like privately and be like, hey, dude, we're a couple mistakes away from having a real conversation.

[Taylor]

Dude. Every week Matt Malone catches something.

[Garrett]

Matt held his.

[Taylor]

He did, he did.

[Garrett]

He. He made a baby step towards being a psycho. He's still not. He's very far away. But he is making the, the proper steps to go to full cycle.

[Taylor]

I don't think Matt took a step towards being like a, a legitimate psycho fan. I think he just. Big brother, he wanted to and that's happy.

[Garrett]

All you got to do is convince.

[Jack]

Big brother he's a hunting. He's a hunting dog right now. He's a puppy. He's in the cage watching the adults go and chase the birds. He's learning how this is going to work, right?

[Garrett]

It's one day at a time.

[Jack]

One day.

[Taylor]

Reading a book about that right now. Jack Hanning at Jack underscore Hanning. If I jump off Gay street, is it actually okay? If I jump off the Gay street bridge in Knoxville, will I die? Hashtag tear talk, hashtag football.

[Marcus Freeman]

That is.

[Garrett]

That's.

[Taylor]

That is real.

[Jack]

We got to talk about other teams, other games going on. There's a lot happening before we jump.

[Taylor]

Into the college football world, which kind of feels very fitting right now. Do we want to talk about any more? NFL.

[Hector]

That's all I was going to say. We kind of stopped in the middle of our.

[Taylor]

We did.

[Jack]

We did.

[Taylor]

Coop Comstock, he hit me on the side right before we walked out here. Said we've lost six games as Arizona Cardinals fan. Six games by a total of 13 points. Cardinals are sneaky. They got that best three and nine team vibe that Will Compton had a couple years ago. Don't sleep on the Cardinals.

[Garrett]

And Call of Duty's about to come.

[Taylor]

Out Call of Duty week. So, yeah, Kobe, Jacoby Brissette seemed like the offense functioned a little bit better with him in the game, which is good. If Jacoby Brissette plays more, gives Kyler Murray more time to play on Call of Duty. So that place, London, Will and I are both on the. You were on the Jags, correct?

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Well, okay.

[Jack]

It wasn't a favorite of mine. That's a game in London. Rams are still spicy. They had Puka out.

[Taylor]

Yeah, they had Puka.

[Jack]

I'm thinking Jags might have a bounce back game. Like they're learning how to win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that one got sideways.

[Taylor]

I mean. Yeah. Insane day for Stafford. It actually turns out being a good thing in my opinion, that the Rams have Puka Naku out because now Devonte Adams and Matthew Stafford can kind of figure each other out what each other likes. And it's back shoulder throws. It's hitting them right out of brakes. It's timing, timing, timing. When it comes to Vonte Adams, three touchdowns. Good thing for the Jags, though. Very sloppy football. Anytime they got in the red zone, it didn't go the way they wanted. Turnover on downs multiple times, but they outgained the Rams and they own the time of possession. So those things you can look at and be like, hey, boys, gotta build 20 to 20. We're looking pretty damn good right now. It's just a matter of getting that 20 to the end zone, so.

[Jack]

But 357 is an absolute asshole.

[Taylor]

That's a Schlacking right there.

[Jack]

Another ass whooping.

[Taylor]

Seven sacks again. 14 sacks given up in two football games.

[Hector]

Oh, that's got to be a record that.

[Taylor]

I think the Titans did worse. I think we gave up 11 against the Ravens. 2018. Yeah, 23.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Three.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Jack]

Another ass whooping, too. Chiefs. Absolutely, dummy. The Raiders.

[Taylor]

Are the best team in the NFL. They're the best team in the NFL right now.

[Matt Malone]

Now that. Now that we got Rashid Rice back and like, we.

[Taylor]

I go ahead.

[Matt Malone]

I can say we if I'm not die hard.

[Taylor]

You're right.

[Matt Malone]

It should have been a lot that Rashid Rice scored this week. I don't know why we overthink that. Overthought that.

[Taylor]

Yeah. And Andy Reid's like, essentially like, yeah, he's coming back. He's gonn big workload this week. And we're like jsn, because I'm sitting here on Monday when we're shooting this and if anybody who follows the locker room is listening to the show, like, we have four anytime touchdown picks by me, Will Delaney and Clay. Three have hit. The one we're waiting on is tonight with JSN and the Seahawks, and I'm the one that took.

[Jack]

JSN's a great pick.

[Taylor]

It's a great pick. But you sit there and it's like, it could. It's a great pick. However, it would have been nice to have Rashid rising be kind of like done. Hey, that thing hit, we didn't even need Monday night.

[Will]

What do they play the weight for Monday night? For the last leg is.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Are you talking about Seattle? They play the Texans.

[Hector]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Which I think will be a good game.

[Taylor]

That's a teddy for sure. I mean, it's a good pass.

[Jack]

Texas defense is nice, but, dude, Seattle's.

[Taylor]

Offensive line is pretty good, too. Bears beat the Saints. I mean, Bears not so great in the second half. Ran the ball really well. Defense played really well. Two, it gets benched against the Dolphins. That's a. That's a fire. Dude. If McDaniels hasn't been fired while we're doing this right now, it's ticking time bomb. Am I right?

[Jack]

I think so, yeah.

[Hector]

They're keeping them in.

[Taylor]

Rap Report reported they're keeping him. They're not firing him right now. Okay, great. Good for everybody in the afc.

[Jack]

Either way, it's bad there.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Either way, it's bad.

[Taylor]

Jets remain winless. Jets are going to go in 16 per Hawk. Panthers fall 13 to 6 at home. Yeah, I don't know what to make of the Panthers. Same thing as the Falcons.

[Hector]

Or wait, the Panthers won?

[Jack]

Oh yeah, Panthers.

[Hector]

I mean the most insane thing the Panthers did.

[Taylor]

Jets lose to the Panthers. Sorry, I read that incorrectly.

[Hector]

Most insane thing the Panthers did was try and split carries with Chuba Hubbard and Rico Dowdle.

[Matt Malone]

So pissed.

[Hector]

It was unreal. And then finally the second half, they went to him and he. Rico went off. But it's like Rico is the third leading rusher in the NFL and when Chuba comes back, they try to give him. They split the carries and it's like you're just putting water on your hot hands.

[Jack]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Malone]

Even with splitting carries, Rico still ended up with like 79, 80 yards and he still had 30 yards. He still ended up with like 120 all purpose yards.

[Jack]

Right. You gotta, yeah, you gotta continue to go with the hot hand. I mean Panthers are sneaky stacking a few wins now.

[Taylor]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack]

With three in a row, I believe.

[Will]

Four and three.

[Taylor]

They are.

[Garrett]

They said Bryce Young's out eight weeks too.

[Jack]

Oh, really?

[Hector]

Back week eight.

[Taylor]

Well, was it.

[Will]

I think I read it wrong.

[Garrett]

So then what you'd be coming back like next week.

[Will]

They have, he's not playing this week and then maybe they have a buy so. Yeah, maybe that's right.

[Jack]

Yo, it is insane too, that division. Jets and Dolphins like two of the worst teams we've ever seen.

[Taylor]

Ever.

[Hector]

Bells are chilling.

[Jack]

Bills are chilling.

[Taylor]

Patriots don't. Don't sleep on the Titans don't sleep on.

[Jack]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess so. I guess you are right with that one.

[Taylor]

Yeah, the jets are.

[Jack]

I'm just thinking both of these teams in that like they're both in that division. There's some bad teams this year, man.

[Hector]

Horrible teams and great quarterbacks.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hector]

The theme of the year.

[Taylor]

I. I know there's the last. I'll say. Drake May impresses me so much, man.

[Hector]

He really is a nice ball.

[Taylor]

I think he threw for 90 in this game against the Titans. He broke a Tom Brady record.

[Matt Malone]

Set the set the Patriots franchise record with completed completion completion percentage percentage in a game with like 91%.

[Will]

Brady's best was 88.5.

[Garrett]

I think they said is Drake made.

[Taylor]

Better than Tom Brady in the stadium.

[Garrett]

When he took that hit to the head. If you saw that where he fell back. Yeah, they took him out. Josh Jobs comes in for two plays and then when Drake May came out, dude, the place erupted. You would have thought that the Titans scored if you were outside the stadium. It was so loud.

[Taylor]

They're cheering for him.

[Garrett]

He's a gamer. And you as A someone who just received an ass beating from him. A lot of respect to him. It's fun to watch him.

[Taylor]

Friend of the show.

[Garrett]

And I love just like him and his family with all of his brothers, like, just meatheads and like, big. Just like. Yeah, gotta love it.

[Taylor]

Yeah. When he hit the back of his head, you know, he went. That blue T was like, I saw my shoulder. My shoulder. Yeah, he's out. He was that boy for a second. All right, let's pull the band aid off. Let's get into college football. Very fun week in college football. Very fun week. Louisville upsets Miami. Carson back through four interceptions in that game. Well, what do you make of Miami? I think. Are they going to. Are they going to win the acc?

[Jack]

Yeah, I think they. I think they still win the acc. Georgia Tech's looking tough.

[Taylor]

Virginia.

[Jack]

Yeah, Virginia. But I see it being between Georgia Tech and Miami still. Look, they lost to Louisville is not a bad football team. Like, I was watching some of that game, too, too. They got some guys, man, and they came to. I mean, they showed up Friday night, came to whoop Miami's ass. They obviously took care of business. But Louisville is sneaky, tough. But I still. I think. I think Miami will bounce back. Tough loss for him, though.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I mean, they. All the conversations. Conversations that everybody was having about essentially Indiana, Ohio State, and it was Miami in that tier. Go and drop a game.

[Hector]

Carson backs post game, though. Idiot.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I didn't see it. Fill me in.

[Jack]

He's just talking about. Because he had what he had four interceptions, and he's kind of talking about each one and. And, you know, talking about it like throwing some other guys under the bus. Not like specifically throwing them under the bus, but talking about the plays and ways to where it's miscommunication. We didn't run the right route. Yada, yada, yada. It wasn't just him. You know, as a quarterback, you got to just stand up there and say.

[Taylor]

It'S on me no matter what, and then get it internally and be like, you can't be. Run the wrong route. Route.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Like, but you want. You want to walk into the locker room and show your guys that you had their back in front of the public, but inside, like, I have to hold you accountable.

[Jack]

Yeah. And that's what you did.

[Hector]

What he said, he said if. If he runs the right. Right route, it's not a pick. And it's like, dude, yeah.

[Jack]

Why would you say that?

[Hector]

People are already like, you're a type of player that everybody is Looking for just one reason to hate.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Hector]

And you just gave them that reason.

[Jack]

Because everybody else that night, it was like, carson Beck. Here's a Carson Beck game, right? Like he's gonna. He's gonna show you he's gonna have these types of games in the season. Carson Beck is still Carson Becky. And then to go out and have a presser like that, that does not. Does not look good, does not help. I still think Miami's really good.

[Taylor]

They just not.

[Jack]

Sometimes you can have an off night.

[Taylor]

You can have an off night, you.

[Jack]

Can have a bad night.

[Taylor]

Let's. Let's skip that next one. Let's talk about Georgia versus Ole Miss. Probably the most exciting game to watch all year. I mean, we talked about in the locker room with Josh Pate. It's like, how does that first quarter look? That's going to tell you how the Dogs are going to do in this game. I think it was 10 to 7 after the first quarter. Am I correct in saying that? Yeah. 10 to 7, dogs open it up. Yeah. Because I didn't get to watch the whole game. I was. I was flying back. But I got to see the end of that game. And they put up the drive chart for Ole Miss and it's touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Three and out. And I remember it's like. It's like Super Troopers when they're shooting the. The cup, the bulletproof cup. He's like, well, what about that show? He's like, ah, don't worry about that one. That's what I'm thinking to myself is like, oh, Ole Miss, they had that little blip on the radar, but that's nothing. George's defense is all of a sudden decided to take over the game. Take over the game. And Gunner Stockton, legit ball player. I don't know if he's an NFL guy.

[Jack]

I'm not.

[Taylor]

I'm not savvy enough to know about quarterbacks and all that. I'll leave that to the professionals. But buddy, from a college football standpoint, dogs don't care about your feelings. It seems like everyone's always like, yeah, you know, like, who knows? Who are they, Kirby? Like, are they really going to be a team this year? And it's like they're a team. They're going to be in the playoff again. They're going to be terrifying for anybody who plays them from here on out. It's just. Is what it is.

[Jack]

Yeah. Big game to Gunner Stockton. Just the offense like again, 43 to 35, showing up in a shootout against Lane Kiffin and that Ole Miss team, it was fun to watch. They're just going back and forth. There's so many points in that game. I know in the locker room I took Georgia to cover, but when I went into that game and going on fanduel that day, I just went and took the over because I'm like, I just don't know how this game's going to go. Like, I think Ole Miss is a good football team. You know, it's like, they're showing against Wazoo last week. It's like, yeah, they're probably all on deck for this Georgia game coming up. So I just ended up taking the over and the over hit in like the first half or beginning of the third quarter. It was just points after points after points. It was crazy.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Will]

Kirby's second half adjustment is just unmatched.

[Matt Malone]

He's.

[Will]

It's unmatched.

[Taylor]

It really is.

[Will]

Ole Miss was up, like, two scores. Should have been a comfortable ride through the rest of the game. And here come the dogs.

[Taylor]

Here come the dogs. And it's weird because you.

[Will]

I mean, you brought up the Gunner Stockton thing, and you watch it and you're like, how are his numbers?

[Taylor]

Like that.

[Will]

It doesn't make any sense. But then he's a gamer, bro.

[Taylor]

Right?

[Will]

Like, I still am sitting here like, is he good?

[Taylor]

He's good, but he.

[Will]

Yeah, I mean, he's good.

[Hector]

Could be like, has that ability.

[Taylor]

Yeah. He's a guy that can live in Athens for the rest of his life if everything goes his way this year. And it's like, oh, what have you been up to? He's like, this, man. You're 45. Yeah, man, it.

[Hector]

I'm player personnel.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Got a cushy job, nice apartment. Things are good.

[Jack]

I. I do want the show to flow well, but I just do have a question. Why did you want to skip the Nebraska game?

[Taylor]

Because I knew we were going to take a lot of time on that, and I was like, well, let's make sure and hit.

[Jack]

Okay?

[Taylor]

Let's. Let's hit these games.

[Jack]

I just want the people to know, like, I know I need to face the noise, you know? No, no, we're not trying to do.

[Taylor]

Nebraska. Okay? I just. I want to give Nebraska it's time because I know guys have questions. I have questions. And so wanted to kind of ride that one in there. We talked about Alabama, Tennessee a little bit. No pick 6 at the end of the half, buddy. Like, that was ball game right there.

[Will]

That was big.

[Taylor]

That was ball game.

[Garrett]

I mean, stupidest Offensive play call you could have ever done.

[Taylor]

And then the safety. Yeah, that's. I mean, that's nine points right there that you guys just can't afford to give the Alabama Crimson Tide. It's just. Just. Who's. Who's the. What do they call them? The disease. The infection.

[Will]

Come again?

[Taylor]

You that wide receiver.

[Will]

Oh, germ.

[Taylor]

Germ. What? No, but what do they. I think they call him the infection. Right. Yeah. That's a germ. Yeah, sure.

[Will]

That's first I've heard it.

[Taylor]

Really? I would look that up because I feel like. I think I've heard that multiple times. That guy is so impressive. He's a ball player. Got that AJ Brown build in him too. Like it's not. It's. But he runs like Debo.

[Will]

Yeah, he's nice. But even nicer is Ty Simpson.

[Jack]

He's playing some good ball.

[Will]

On fire.

[Taylor]

Got that thing up there.

[Will]

Uses his legs when he needs it.

[Taylor]

Alabama Cribs of Ties September 27, 20:05pm the infection.

[Will]

The infection from the Alabama football account. All right, we did.

[Jack]

Tennessee lost. That's why Jackie Boy's back there paying his dad season all Alabama gear. We did stream that game. I wish there was more anger and more passion during that stream, too.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I will just say when they were making plays, I needed the Garrett that I've seen when he watches Alabama football games. And I get it. He's being respectful. It's probably very hard. You're sitting there with your best friend. We knew we wanted. Hey, this dream. We get all eyes on teams that we have more than one fan on and we get to kind of watch from afar. These guys be in the same room. And I want to see the passion that we know that they have. Cheering, yelling, whatever it is. I'm not saying that we need to fake it, but I know that there's stuff in there.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

That they left on the field that they didn't put out.

[Taylor]

The argument you're making right now is essentially this stream kind of was faked because it wasn't authentic to how everybody was truly feeling in the moment.

[Jack]

There was like too much just respect.

[Taylor]

There's.

[Jack]

There's personal buy in and personal equity with these guys. But when I'm sitting there and I'm trying to ask questions and I'm like, hey, Chef, I know Jack's beaten down.

[Will]

And I think I answered every question you asked.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, yeah. But I'm. What I'm saying is like just that you. I was sitting there when it was Oregon, Penn State, Going on. And you're kind of watching the Bama Georgia game, and I'm seeing some stuff that, like, I want that going on in front of them, and I know it, like, opens a wound and everything else. And when I was sitting there and I ended up asking Chef the question of how you feeling right now with the game coming on? Because we're kind of sitting there in silence a little bit, and he just didn't have an answer. I didn't want to do to do it to Jackie Boy. I kind of pick shots every now and then. He'll look back, and I know when it gets going to more like Nebraska and everything else, I'm like, okay. I know Jack's worked up. I don't want him to think I'm doing that just to continue to, like, hey, Jackie boy, how you feeling about this one? Because I know where that that line gets. I wanted to ask Chef. Chef didn't have anything to say.

[Taylor]

Didn't even speak.

[Jack]

I'm thinking, guys, where's. Where's. I need some anger. I need some. I think I need to know how you're really feeling in this moment.

[Taylor]

There needs to be a sign on, like, the stream room doors. Kind of like football. Hey, leave it on the field.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Like, if you get a fight with your boy at practice, when you go in the locker room and tell, you dap up. My bad, my bad. You move on. We didn't have a sign that's like, content, doesn't care about your feelings. Be authentic. That needs to be the sign.

[Will]

We'll get on that.

[Jack]

Matt's doing his best. He's put on the pads.

[Taylor]

That did a great job.

[Matt Malone]

That was the most emotional one.

[Taylor]

Fun. That was more for vibes than he was, like, truly caring about the game. That was.

[Jack]

But the way Bama was winning, I know G had so much more.

[Matt Malone]

Chef, there is a video of you on Twitter being an absolute psycho.

[Taylor]

Right?

[Jack]

Where is that at? I'm like, yeah.

[Matt Malone]

And he's like, you know, I just didn't want to let it out, you know?

[Will]

Well, I mean.

[Matt Malone]

I'm like, saying, chef, this is extreme team. Like, you need to be doing this. And he's like, ah, you know, anything I said, would have wanted to say, I can't say on camera. It's like, no, you can't. Like, we're doing.

[Jack]

This is a low risk environment. I feel like of all the content we do, I feel like streaming is our lowest risk.

[Garrett]

Speaking for sure. I texted him that night. I also. I wanted to text the group Be like, yo, sorry. Didn't bring the best content, perspective, energy there, but there were so many mistakes. It's like, that was our most authentic ball self. Like, it's very hard for us to just, like, sit there while we're getting our ass beat, we're making horrible play calls, and then also just, like, be monkeys in a cage. Like, I know that we could have been more. But, like, that's what you guys are asking us to be, like. To shell out, like, our. Our fandom. To, like, be, like, screaming at Garrett. Garrett and I have a very mutual respect for our fandom. It's hard for me and him to get at it because we know how much like, it could seriously endanger our friendship if we took it that level, and we just don't. Garrett has been in Neyland before when Alabama has lost and is the most gracious loser. And Unfortunately, I've had 16 years in a row where we watched Alabama just destroy our lives. I hated. I hated that's how it went down. It felt like this stream sucked because of Chef and I. And I'll take full, like, accountability for that.

[Taylor]

That.

[Garrett]

It's just, like, I hated the environment. I. I know that work comes first, and I told you this before, and I was like, I never in a million years wanted to stream that game because I get so. Just, like, in my head, like, I'd be doing that at my house or, like, with my friend, just, like, silent, raging in my head. It's. I don't know. It's so hard emotionally to, like, try and understand that, like, hey, you know, Tennessee is one thing, but, like, this is your job. You get health insurance, and you're paid for this. But I. Tennessee fandom.

[Taylor]

Jack, I understand what you're saying. Here's where. Here's what I've kind of realized is we look at the leadership in the room, and I think it comes to you and me in those situations of poking the bear and stoking the fire.

[Jack]

I mean, I. I ain't taking accountability.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Yeah. I think. I think we need to stream the Florida Tennessee game after what's transpired on this bus.

[Jack]

See, that one would be a lot better.

[Taylor]

Yeah, that. I think that. Is that maybe the move, and it's really on whoever doesn't have you in the game, too. People got to know we're gonna poke the bear a little bit. We're gonna. We're gonna get it. If it flip the other way, we'd have to come at you, G. Vibe. That's just kind of how it has to be from now on because we know it's in there. There.

[Will]

It's. I think. I think from my point of view during the stream was you don't gotta play this. It's obviously you want to be locked in. And it is that there is always that fear, especially with this game of like, it's not over until it's over. And so even with the pick six happens. And I did punch the Kevin's fridge, so I think I showed my emotion there. Maybe I should have tackled it all the way to the ground for you guys.

[Matt Malone]

But.

[Will]

But there is that sense of. And I said it in the locker room. Stay focused and finish the job. And that was my pure vibe the entire time. I stood up and cheered.

[Taylor]

It's not like, yeah, you're on the team.

[Jack]

You gotta. Until this. That clock hits zero. I'm strapped up. I feel you.

[Will]

I'm locked in.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I got it.

[Will]

It's no talking in between plays.

[Hector]

Yeah.

[Will]

Line up for the next snap.

[Taylor]

Tentatively, we'll be streaming the Florida Tennessee game. Okay.

[Matt Malone]

State.

[Taylor]

Arizona State. They upset Texas Tech. My thoughts on that game. Didn't see a whole lot of it. I know Sam Levitt had a hell of a game. He threw for like 360 yards. I think that's a blip for Texas Tech. I think they're going to turn around. They're going to mow down the rest of the rest of the competition. There's a chance they see Arizona State in the Big 12 championship.

[Will]

I agree.

[Jack]

Kind of have to. BYU undefeated right now.

[Taylor]

BYU's undefeated, but they play. I believe they still play Texas Tech and a couple other ones as well. Like, they have a very backloaded schedule to where it's like BYU beat Utah, which is one of the parts of the backlog schedule.

[Matt Malone]

But shout out to Holy war. Those unis were sick.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Red and blue across the board, man.

[Will]

Oldest time.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Pull up that BYU schedule because it is. They got a nasty little thing coming up. Let's see. They got Iowa State. You never, never count out Rocco Becht and Matt Campbell. Then you got Texas Tech, two roads. TCU. Yeah. Cincinnati.

[Matt Malone]

TCU is a good ball club.

[Taylor]

TCU's a blue ball club. And then UCF right there. So. So I don't know what's going to happen. Byu. I know that ASU have kind of put themselves in. Can you throw up ASU schedule? Just real quick, we'll move on to the next game. Because the kind of. The conversation I think Josh Pay talked about on his show Last night he was breaking down like, there's a chance we see both these teams again in the Big 12 championship. Because ASU, let's see, they got Houston, Iowa State. At Iowa State, West Virginia, Colorado, Arizona.

[Matt Malone]

Like they have us easier.

[Taylor]

Yeah, they have a much easier back half schedule. You could see them sneaking back into that Big 12 championship yet again.

[Jack]

Still at Iowa State.

[Taylor]

Iowa State. That's a scary one. That's a scary one. Texas Tech, they're playing Oklahoma State. Poor Coop. Kansas State. Poor Will. Byu, us, UCF in West Virginia. So all winnable games. I see Texas Tech mopping.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

From here on.

[Jack]

What's Cincinnati scale schedule.

[Matt Malone]

I think they have a pretty cakewalk, too.

[Taylor]

I mean, they gotta play byu, right? Was that the one we just saw?

[Matt Malone]

They have to play Tech, too.

[Taylor]

Let's see, Cincinnati's got Baylor, Utah, Arizona, BYU at home, though.

[Jack]

And ICCU.

[Taylor]

Yeah, that's not super easy. B12, man.

[Jack]

Wide open. Interesting wide open.

[Taylor]

World we're kind of sitting in right now at the Big 12.

[Will]

Could have picked a Big 12 team.

[Jack]

You go back.

[Taylor]

Let's see. Georgia Tech. Yeah, listen. Georgia Tech beat Duke. I have no idea why Duke is favored in some of these games. They were favored early in the year. It's Illinois that was easy pickings. And then they're favored against Tech. It's just crazy. It's just crazy. Like, what do we. What is the sport book seeing? Sport books? What is FanDuel seeing that we're not seeing when it comes to Duke? Because clearly we're seeing the field a little bit better.

[Hector]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Manny D. Manny Diaz, he needs to cut his hair. He needs to switch up the juju for that team. Yeah, I'm seeing it going on. This is just probably where it starts.

[Jack]

This is. This is where it starts right here. We gotta buzz the head.

[Taylor]

We talked. We talked to Marcus Freeman about the win against usc.

[Jack]

I do think it's crazy. I saw the AP poll come out. I think it's wild that USC is not ranked anymore. Fell all the way out. They fell out.

[Will]

And LSU is still ranked.

[Jack]

Yeah, LSU is still ranked.

[Taylor]

Yeah. They dropped a bunch of USC. Yeah. Michigan's now like 25, which is. I like it because it's my school, but I'm also like, if you're to pull USC, right.

[Jack]

If you're gonna keep Michigan at 25, like USC, like, we. We should be 24. Whether it's 24, 23, it doesn't matter. Like, I think it's crazy that they fell out because there are Two losses. What? Illinois, who's now ranked, which is good, but their two losses being at Illinois and at Notre Dame. Notre Dame, one of the best teams. You know, climbing up to be one of the best teams in the country again. Again.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I did think it was crazy that USC kind of fell out of the top 25 because I still think USC is a good football team.

[Taylor]

Great football team. Yeah. Really good football team.

[Jack]

Tough to win at South Bend, especially Elements.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

The rain, all that Jeremiah love was.

[Hector]

Destined to go off.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Let's talk about cocktober. Someone in the pre production meeting said, is it Cocktober or South Carolina? Just asked if somebody did do that on the bus that's sitting on the bus right now. Now is the time to come clean. Oh, wow.

[Jack]

That was me, the Florida Gators fan.

[Taylor]

I did write that fan. For 24 hours, you already giving Gator fans a bad name.

[Jack]

I have to defend this though. JP and I, we have talked before the season started and he was talking about South Carolina, all this stuff. And I think I said many times I. I think South Carolina is really going to let you down this year. And now the real question is, will they even make a bowl game? I think that is a fair question to ask.

[Taylor]

It's a fair question.

[Jack]

How many wins will South Carolina end the season with? I think we should go around and find out what everyone thinks. What's their schedule? Can you pull it up? Sure.

[Hector]

Alabama this week. We got Ole Miss the next week and then we have A and M and then we play Coastal Carolina and Clemson.

[Matt Malone]

What's your record?

[Hector]

Right now we're 3 and 4, so 8 and 4.

[Jack]

And who are the next three opponents?

[Hector]

Bama, Ole Miss, A and M, Coastal and then Clemson.

[Jack]

I think you get the last two.

[Taylor]

At Ole Miss and at A on the road.

[Jack]

I don't think you need a bowl game. You beat Clemson.

[Hector]

There you go. We're throwing it back to the old days.

[Jack]

Trust me.

[Taylor]

Season saved with the Clemson win.

[Jack]

Exactly. I am hoping for an upset in one of these next three. Would love to see it.

[Garrett]

It's just sneak an Ole Miss win. Just start trying to ruin seasons.

[Taylor]

Yeah, the next Florida head coach, they all quit on him.

[Garrett]

Now you get one of those three. I think y' all get coastal and I feel like y' all just dog Clemson like all were born to do.

[Hector]

This is the sneak.

[Jack]

Alabama this week at home.

[Hector]

The issue is we have. We have five linemen out. Hope me maybe some of them come back. But we're missing five O linemen. Dylan Stewart got hurt last week. Oh, linebacker got hurt. Well, you're missing your whole starting O line.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Hector]

Because the left tackle, he got hurt this past week.

[Jack]

And Dylan Stewart.

[Hector]

And Dylan Stewart, you're pretty depleted. And the number one frustration from Gamecock fans is offensive play calling. Because it's like, you see all of these teams with similar talent just moving the ball all the time. You see Diego Pavia run nuts on everyone. It's like, you cannot tell me.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Hector]

That Lenora Sellers cannot do what Diego Pavia is doing. So that's the frustrating part. But I was telling Taylor before, I was like, this truly is. Maybe this is the year to make making a bowl game great again. Because growing up, this reminds me of all my seasons in elementary school. We would go into the Clemson game pretty much at five wins. It's like, we beat Clemson, we're in the bowl game, and we win that bowl game, it's up next season. And the bowl game had so much weight to it at the lunchroom table, you're fighting for it. Like in elementary school. I don't think we ever beat Clemson, but there was always a chance. But it's just like that. We're throwing it back. This is a.05 fandom year year where we're fighting for that bowl game.

[Taylor]

Yeah, dude.

[Hector]

And I'm here for the fight every week.

[Taylor]

Every week here for the fight.

[Hector]

I'll be at the Alabama game. G. May or may not be there, but I'm going do whatever I can.

[Jack]

To will this team to victory.

[Hector]

Yeah. Yeah. They want to know with me there this year, but if they gave me the opportunity, I would speak to every single player individually if I needed to.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Start getting them de.

[Taylor]

Just line them up outside of an office. You're just in there, right? Sit down real quick.

[Hector]

I'm willing to do whatever I. Whatever I can.

[Jack]

Sticking to the sec. We got a college game day in the fall. Don't lie. Tour at Missouri, at Vanderbilt this weekend.

[Taylor]

Big game, massive game.

[Matt Malone]

We gotta go. For those that are in town.

[Jack]

Yeah. For the guys that are in town, that'd be a fun game to go to, dude. Like the OT between Mizzou and Auburn. And seeing that, seeing the ball player, seeing Mizzou's guy just talking to Auburn and then go and get a sack and a tackle for loss. I loved it, bro.

[Hector]

He was on fire.

[Jack]

On fire. On fire.

[Hector]

That's gonna. I have no idea who's gonna win that one.

[Jack]

I don't either. I don't either. Because Mizzou's tough. Vanderbilt's tough.

[Will]

I think they're gonna do game day on Broadway.

[Jack]

You know, McAfee will have that place just an electric factory.

[Will]

It's gonna be nuts.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it'll be interesting. I if, if Vanderbilt beats Missouri, it's going to have to become Kaden McConnell. Vanderbilt Hate Week for me that last week in November, all that ball stuff on. Be terrified about what my wallet's going to look like if them boys pull that off.

[Jack]

Whoever wins, it's their one losses to Bama.

[Hector]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Their one loss is to Bama. God, right now Bama looks like the best. I won't say the best team in the sec. Gotta still give credit to Texas A M. They're still undefeated right now and taking care of business. But Bama looks really good. It's like them and A M are the. The front runners. Yeah, A M is nice.

[Taylor]

How about Georgia, man, I feel them making us.

[Jack]

Georgia's there but they're just on, you.

[Taylor]

Know, they lost, you say four, four ranked wins in a row. Four ranked wins in a row.

[Will]

For four ranked wins in a row. Two on the road. Road.

[Marcus Freeman]

Florida State.

[Hector]

Wait till they play an unranked team.

[Jack]

Wait till they play. Can they keep that, can they keep that going against an unranked South Carolina?

[Taylor]

Damn.

[Jack]

Yeah. SEC. I love where the SEC's at with the Big 12. SEC like it's going to get fun.

[Will]

We have, you know, beginning of the season. You looked at our schedule, we had Tennessee, South Carolina. I think it goes Oklahoma, LSU and then Auburn. And now unfortunately like LSU isn't very good. Oklahoma's wishy washy LSU been on.

[Jack]

They. They are frauds, man.

[Will]

We'll see how we can finish it out.

[Taylor]

I think you're gonna like what you see at the end of the year, buddy.

[Jack]

Dive into what it's a big ten ball.

[Taylor]

Yeah, we top big ten ball. I'll quickly go. I took my daughter to the Michigan Washington game. I was very nervous about this game because Washington's one loss came to Ohio State who is seems like the most complete team in all. It's called college football right now. And I mean Washington comes back against Maryland, I think it was like 24 unanswered points in the fourth quarter. When they're in Maryland, the quarterbacks elite. The running back is awesome that they have that wide receiver Boston. So I'm like they have a lot of offensive firepower and after watching them versus usc, watching Michigan versus USC the week before, I'm wondering what we're going to see. Justice Hayes, I see him on Friday, he's doing, he's put a little something on his like shoulder pads. I'm like, hey, we going this week? Is it? We're going to find out today. It's Friday. It's Friday afternoon. He ends up not playing that game. So I was very nervous. Our defense, that was it. That dude. We the 15 quarterback Williams, the quarterback for Washington, he's throwing one interception all year. He threw three against Michigan. Seven. Seven. We leave a lot of points off the board. We have a fourth and one. Wouldn't you know it drop took place and then we missed it. We missed a field goal. So the, there's a lot of points and we're almost in the red zone or in field goal position on that fourth and one second half. I mean, Bryce Underwood, five for five on one drive, 64 yards. I was showing JP a bunch of highlights when I got back during that stream. She was juicing me up.

[Jack]

That was his best game.

[Taylor]

That was his best game. Like he, he made some throws. I was just like, I still am like, like recovering from last year. We couldn't throw the ball at all. Anytime there's a completion, I'm like, oh, just getting a little chubby. You're sitting there like this guy's unbelievable. It's like a check down. I'm like, we got him, we got one. But he had a couple. Both tight ends are out. Our starting tight end and our second string tight end was out. Our third string tight end who's a junior has like six catches for 86 yards. Bryce is threading the needle. That Marsh kid, the one handed catch like. And then Marshall, the backup running back has 136 yards. Like it was one of those games you like watch. You're like, this is an offensive, this is an offense that, that you play like this. You can beat anybody. That defense, like, we're getting home with four. We're not blitzing every single play. It's sparingly, it's tasteful, they're disguising. And it was like you walk away from that game and it's like do that every week. Yeah, do that every week. As low as vibes were were after the usc you were. I'm thinking to myself, you know, maybe I don't know about Washington, I don't know about Maryland, I don't know about some of these schools. I feel good about. Ohio State is always.

[Jack]

But conversations were starting to come up, up about Michigan.

[Taylor]

Yeah. And, and Shiron Moore. And now it's like, keep me on the roller coaster. Keep me on the roller coaster because I'm feeling as high as I possibly could be.

[Jack]

And there was a. I don't know his name, but it's like, I want to say he was a backup quarterback last year for Michigan, and he was on some show or podcast talking about the culture, and it's a lot of finger pointing and you're kind of seeing it come to fruition.

[Taylor]

I saw a tweet about that. You know, you were talking about that. Hell, it seems like Sharon's lost a locker. Locker room.

[Jack]

Lost a lot. When did I say somebody?

[Taylor]

It was Saturday night when I. When I got back from the game and there was a conversation. I don't know, it might not been you, but somebody was like, yeah, I'm good. I'm glad you guys had that game because I saw reports that, like, Sharon's lost the locker room.

[Jack]

I think it was coming from that. That backup queue that was on the team last year. Oh, it was a club, was it?

[Taylor]

Club?

[Jack]

No, no, it wasn't Orgy. It wasn't Orgy.

[Taylor]

Yeah, him.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you. There's a reason why you left, buddy. That's not. It's not for everybody when it comes to the Maze and Blue. So. So it was for me, a game just to watch. And like. Like, wow. That was a really.

[Jack]

It was from that. It was from that account too. What. What was that account that posted that? They're posting stuff on Reddit or something like that.

[Taylor]

Clayton Safy.

[Jack]

Yeah, but what was the account? That's sharing it, cuz that's where I also saw the video.

[Taylor]

Intrinsic.

[Jack]

Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of. That's like an Illuminati.

[Hector]

Same account. I was seeing the market.

[Jack]

That dude right there.

[Taylor]

Who's this? Cat. Cat.

[Hector]

Go up.

[Jack]

Go up. Jack Tuttle.

[Taylor]

Damn, Jack.

[Hector]

Damn Tuttle.

[Jack]

I know, bro. One year out.

[Hector]

King Tut, little Tut, talking crazy.

[Taylor]

Where's he playing now?

[Jack]

He said former Michigan quarterback Jack Tuttle admits enterprise players are pointing fingers at coaches and arguing with one another. He even admits that it happened last year under Shiron Moore.

[Taylor]

Hashtag noticing, hashtag ever. Yeah, really easy to sit in the zoom with a collared shirt on and say mean, nasty things about a program you can't affect.

[Jack]

That's a tough look. One year out.

[Taylor]

That is a tough look.

[Hector]

Yeah, that's bitterness.

[Taylor]

That's a tough look.

[Jack]

But just like, you got boys on the squad, like, what are you doing? Yeah.

[Hector]

What are you hoping to get from that?

[Jack]

Right.

[Taylor]

Yeah, exactly. Like. Yeah. You know, all the guys that are on that football team, besides the freshman, anyway, regardless. Yeah.

[Jack]

It's like, like those are still all your teammates.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Regardless of how things have gone for Michigan this year, these guys are. They're living, eating and breathing it every single day. We're like, this is. This is. They're so zoomed into it. They believe in. They're going to win every single game by 50 points. But you know what? We need guys like Tuttle. We need them because now, right now, it's little brother week. We've opened up at 13 1/2 point favorites versus Michigan State. Big statement game. Texas Toronto said this is a game. You're up by 21. You go for two. Two. This is one of those games.

[Hector]

It's time to cover.

[Taylor]

Time to cover.

[Jack]

Yeah, time to cover. Time to be great.

[Taylor]

Hey, covered this week, so that was nice. But overall, man, I was like a very uplifting Saturday. Awesome to have Willow there. It was a great time. You ready?

[Jack]

Yeah. Look, all eyes on Northwestern. That was a bad game. That was a bad game against Minnesota. Hats off to Minnesota. They had an incredible. I'll obviously do the coach speak game plan, but they shoved it. They rode the boats up our asses in that second half. It was tough. I'm still healing from it. I started Friday morning. I weighed myself. I was 217. I got on the scale last night after the weekend was over. I'm 225. I've added eight pounds. I've ate ice cream four days in a row. I'm currently still healing. But now we go to work. Now it's Monday. Now it's time to work.

[Will]

Work.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Because the world doesn't give a dude all the noise that was happening last week. It sucks because people can be like, oh, this was definitely a distraction. Everything people are going to, you know, the world's going to be as loud as ever around Nebraska. And we played a bad game. JP Was talking like, why can't we look like some of these offenses going around? I just see some of these quarterbacks who have, you know, some who have enough time to throw the ball around. I'm thinking, why can't our offensive line do that? But I'm not going to get in that just negativity mentality. Because no matter what, you have to go back to work this week. You just, you have to. I, you know, we're playing Northwestern. We need to beat their ass because again, I know that that game was tough. You see Dylan after the game Just taking all the accountability. Look, it starts with me. That was a tough game and just all the players feeling pissed off about it. You know, that sucked because they went in before that week started saying, hey, we want to wear the all whites. We know we kind of have the curse or we have a bad record. I want to say Raola and the boys, they went in, hey, we want to wear the all whites. Heights got all the noise going on with Coach Rule throughout that entire week and they wanted to right or wrong and felt like this culture everybody talks about how the feeling around this team, it's just a different vibe, it's a different mentality. We were three and one in one score games going into that game against Minnesota and we had a very bad showing. And part of me, it's that, that, that, that little bit creeps in of being 5 and 2 and you're at that midway point. Is it, you know, hopefully like this is like all hands on deck. You got to get this bad taste out of your mouth and put an ass whooping on Northwestern because if not it's like, fuck, man. Is this about, you know, are we just going to be iffy throughout the rest of the season? I don't think we will. I think we have a good football team. We have to figure it out at the line of scrimmage. We can't let teams run the football as well as Minnesota is doing in that second half against us. And so it's just, it's just one of those ones like I'm there with J.P. i'm going to find every which way I can, turn over every stone. And will this team the victory this weekend against Northwestern because it's got to be an asshole. This is a massive mass. How are you going to respond after a game like that for Nebraska?

[Taylor]

Is this game home or away?

[Jack]

I believe it's home.

[Taylor]

Is there a chance that will come? Oh, you have to go to Sleepy Hollow this weekend.

[Jack]

Yeah, I gotta go.

[Taylor]

This is a perfect game for Will Compton. Take a solo mission. Maybe just take Rue and go to Lincoln and just be boots on the ground.

[Jack]

Go to a game like that. That's where she would see a different version of her old man. You know what I mean?

[Hector]

But this is, this is Monday. Is this what I call Mirror Monday? And this is what I hope is going on in South Carolina locker room and I hope it's going on in Nebraska's locker room. When you show up and you go to put your pads on, you open up your locker. I want the coaches to Put a mirror in there so every single player can look themselves in the eye and say, am I who I say I am and am I becoming who I'm supposed to be?

[Jack]

I love that.

[Hector]

If you can't answer that question, get out of the locker room. I just came up with that off top.

[Jack]

Did you realize get my piss hot, young man?

[Taylor]

Hell yeah.

[Jack]

Mere Monday. Mere Monday, bro. I'm with you because that, oh stuff I went into halftime and again, it's like you see all the, you know, the SA people love to talk about and post about the negativity going on, but I'm like, all right. At the end of the day, we had to. We put ourselves in touch with situations, whether it was sacks or penalties. When we got into scoring position, took three points instead of seven, they did pop one long run on us. So I'm, I'm thinking to myself, they popped one play on us at seven to six, dude, I wish we were up. That was 14, seven. Absolutely. But it's like, let's come out of the second half and let's go to work. And dude, Minnesota, just one play at a time, bro. We got one where Archie, Archie Wilson puts it on the one yard line, Eckler's fired up, we pin him back on the one yard line, and they go like 15, 17 plays, 99 yards, bro. And even when we could get on the field and it was fourth and short and they go for it and we get a defensive pass interference and you're just like, man. And then slowly but surely, I just started to have that feeling. I'm like, boys, we're running out of time here, here. Like, we got to start making some hay. And it just didn't happen. Hey, and by the way, that that linebacker for Minnesota who had that a gap blitz on my boy, my boy Emmett Johnson, Emmett didn't shy away from it. It just didn't go his way in that a gap.

[Taylor]

And that's when you pull up and be like, as a coach, you show Emmett Johnson that and be like, I know you don't want to see this clip, but you got to take a lot of pride. And you putting your face in that, you're out. The guys come with a head full of steam.

[Jack]

Buddy's got a neck roll, weighs you.

[Taylor]

He's got a neck roll on no fair dodge and right down the middle.

[Jack]

And listen, we got to find a way to have it.

[Taylor]

Is that a linebacker play that I'm sure you dreamed about, and I'm sure a lot of linebackers dream about. Yeah, but, like, everyone gets.

[Jack]

That's one play I watch, and I'm like, a nice rush by old boy.

[Taylor]

Right? Even. Even while you're in mental health.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

Date. Listen, I was with Friday night with Dave. While the game's taking place, I'm putting Willow to sleep. I come back out, Dave's like, two and a half, three rum and Diet Coke. Steel deep. And he. I taught him on the film. I was, like, secretly filming him, and he's like, we gotta text Will. I'm like, dave, I'm telling you right now, this is not the time. And I started to film because I was gonna tweet a little video of Dave. Minnesota, he's a Minnesota alumni, talking about, you know, if nobody's ever watched football before, they'd be like, what's the big deal with this? All of this white and red team, like, saying all these things. I have the video, and I'm like, you got. I'm like, I literally. I literally thought about. About you, and I was like, I can't do this to Will right now.

[Jack]

But it's your dad doing it to where it's kind of. It's funny. And I'm like, I'm wanting to get Dave Lewan after that, but because Dave was.

[Taylor]

Dave was talking crazy, you know? Like, he's talking about Minnesota. I'm thinking, my. You guys haven't been good ever. What are you talking about?

[Jack]

They were good that night. I, I.

[Taylor]

That number zero, that defensive end, he's good, man. Now, that's a good defensive end for Minnesota.

[Jack]

I highly doubt any team in America beats Minnesota on Friday night. That Friday night, they looked good. They looked good, E. Even when they're getting coverage sacks, like, they did a great job taking away basically everything we wanted to do. Hats off to him. Hats off to PJ Fleck, Hats off to the Minnesota Gophers. I was talking a little before that game started.

[Taylor]

You.

[Jack]

You pushed it down my throat, and you guys know where my house is. Like, I thought about going and laying on the railroad tracks after the game.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Hector]

I now understand the purchase more.

[Taylor]

Yeah. I mean, Will, like he said, if we lose, like, text me, make sure I'm good. If I don't, respond, like, come to my house. I'm in Ann Arbor. I send you a text. Thoughts and prayers are with the Compton family. I love you. No response. I wake up Saturday morning, I'm thinking, is he gone? Is he with us still?

[Jack]

I took that as you patted me.

[Taylor]

On the head at some point. Listen, Will, hold on. At some point, dude, you've got to realize, if it's not Michigan, Nebraska, I am rooting for you in Nebraska. At some point, that's got to change in your head a little bit. Because I'm not patting you on the head.

[Jack]

It can't.

[Taylor]

Why?

[Jack]

I don't know. The same reason that when I did my video, same reason, same reason I did my video. And I'm like, I should be happy with the life that I have, but I'm not. Like, there's something that's just in my brain that it just. I don't think I'll go that way.

[Taylor]

Way. Can I. Is there anything I can do for you to realize and for the Nebraska players who watch this, who, like, basically called me a piece of shit before the Michigan Nebraska game, not realizing I, I played football there, like, what can I do for you as your friend to where you know that I'm on your side? Is it not to talk to you at all about Nebraska other than on the show? Is it, you know, I, I, I, I don't know.

[Jack]

If I had that answer, I would have tried to communicate.

[Taylor]

Is it possibly the competition taking place right now? I'm, like, truly trying to look at you in the eyes and say, hey, buddy. Yeah, I'm rooting for you guys. Like, there's some fun things we have to do in the show, like Matt Rule to Penn State. Like, I gotta bring that up, because that is the show we have. He's your friend. I'm your friend.

[Jack]

I know he is, but he's like.

[Taylor]

I'm not patting you on the head. I'm not Dave Portnoy.

[Jack]

You patted me on that.

[Taylor]

I know there's times earlier today, I'm like, that play we're talking about Kade McConnell. I'm like, that play that took place with 49. It's like, that's a good football player. Like, what are you doing? Well, I gotta do this.

[Jack]

You did have to bring that out of nowhere for zero reason, because it's football porn.

[Taylor]

The subject was football porn. I was like, it's similar to. And I'm not even trying to. But that' similar play. You just said, that's a great football play.

[Jack]

Yeah, but at that moment, you took out a pocket knife and slipped it in me. You know what I'm saying?

[Hector]

Wounds that happen over the course of, like being a Nebraska fan, a South Carolina fan, that it's like, wounds heal but scars don't. Like, the scar is there.

[Taylor]

And I get.

[Jack]

I tell you what, you are on.

[Taylor]

A roll Right now. I get it.

[Hector]

That's what it is.

[Taylor]

I get it. And I felt that when the whole Nebraska, Michigan thing took place this year. And then when you. You picked Nebraska and your. Your meaning was, hey, I'm gonna go roll with the home team. I know a piece of you were still thinking about South Carolina, Tennessee from a couple years ago when I sat there and took Tennessee. I know that.

[Hector]

No, it has nothing to do with your decisions.

[Taylor]

I understand. I understand.

[Hector]

Yeah.

[Jack]

There's just moments you. Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

Because my school.

[Hector]

No, I'm saying you're not doing anything wrong. It has nothing to do with you.

[Jack]

You.

[Hector]

It's all. It's all here. It's all internal. It's all of the battles that we've been through.

[Taylor]

Right, the battles you've been through. I'm over here with my sword and my shield saying, guys, I'm with you. Hey, cocktop.

[Jack]

But we're like, it's too late. I already have too many guns.

[Taylor]

And I'm saying, that's what therapy's for. That's what therapy. I can help both y', all, but.

[Jack]

To go to therapy, the other person also has to want to go to therapy. I don't want to go to therapy.

[Taylor]

Right.

[Hector]

I want to win.

[Taylor]

So you want to sit there in every single fall from here on out? You want. When I talk about Nebraska, like, man, I wish you guys got done. You're like, you fucking piece of shit. Pat me on the head again. It's like, no, bro, I'm literally thinking about you Friday night. Or I put my child asleep. I'm thinking to myself, I hope my best friend's okay.

[Jack]

I know, but there's things that you've said and done that just you can't take back.

[Taylor]

Similar to, I can't wait for Michigan to fall. Like, you know, I'm preying on your guys downfall. I heard all the. You said all those things.

[Jack]

I think I said that one time. You said it one again. I was bleeding. I was knife. I was bleeding and I was still holding the knife. You, no matter what you go to it say we go seven and five. You're going to be. Hey, beginning of the. I was saying, you guys should be happy about this.

[Taylor]

That is right there, right there. That right there. To me, I'm still saying, like, listen, that it. We're showing growth.

[Jack]

But if you're asking, you're saying there's.

[Taylor]

You're the most unrealistic fan.

[Hector]

No, no, you're digging.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

I'm not digging. I'm telling the Truth.

[Jack]

You're not wanting to listen to me. You're not wanting to listen to J.P. okay?

[Taylor]

If you're talking about digging, it's because you're in the same position. I'm telling you guys, hey, if you go better, have a better record from last year. That's called getting better as a program. Program.

[Jack]

So here's. Here's what's happening in those moments. You're asking how you can support me, and then you're also making your own decisions on how you think you're supporting me. I'm not responding the way you want to. I'm trying to tell you, hey, here's how you support me. But you continue to do that where you pat me on the head.

[Taylor]

I'm not patting you on the head, Will.

[Jack]

But you are, because I'm trying to.

[Taylor]

Tell you, no, I'm not. That's your. That's your mental. I'm literally saying, hey, if you have a better record than the year before, then your team's gotten better. Yes or no? Is that fact?

[Jack]

No.

[Taylor]

No. Yes.

[Jack]

No.

[Taylor]

Yes.

[Jack]

But also, as you say that, that is fine that you sit in that chair and you say that, but don't come asking me how can I support you when I'm trying to help you and you don't want to take it.

[Taylor]

How do I support you right now?

[Jack]

I. It's. It's done. We're done. We ain't going to therapy. We ain't. We ain't mending this.

[Taylor]

Give up on our football family.

[Jack]

I'm gonna. One time, it's like, hey, I love you. The. I'm thinking about the comps of the night, and I'm just gonna look and I'll be like, that dog or done, dude.

[Taylor]

I can't sit there. It's like. It's like you're sitting there and you're like, 10 and 2, 11 and 1. Big 10 championship playoffs.

[Jack]

Listen. Listen to me. Can we not Now I get it. We just had a bad outing, right? But what, like the rest of our resume right now? We're sitting in 5 and 10, too. You can't sit here and tell me that I shouldn't expect us.

[Taylor]

Let me stop. Let me stop you, because USC is.

[Jack]

Going to be a tough game.

[Taylor]

Let me stop you, though. I agree with everything you're saying. I agree with that. Every game you have on your schedule is winnable. USC is the one you kind of put aside. You're like, I don't know about that one. I am with you. I think you guys can literally win out. 10 and 2 is still right in front of you. I agree. When we sat in the beginning of the year, your team has gotten better and I said 7 and 5. You guys have gotten better. That's okay to say. I'm sitting here now in the middle of October, late October, even saying, will, you guys can win out and I believe you can. Now listen to the words. Don't think about what I could possibly. Okay, I'm saying the Nebraska Cornhuskers absolutely can go 10 and 2 without a doubt. Okay, okay, full stop. End of sentence. There's no patting on the head. USC is going to be tough. Penn State, Yeah, I always had your number. But I ain't a ball club that should be able to hang out with Dylan Raola. They don't got pass rushers that's going to get nine sacks in a game. You guys can win that game. I'm with you. He's your friend 100%. He's your friend 100%. What time is it?

[Jack]

Heart rate's at 102. So if I don't believe it's going to happen, but if we were happen to be 7 and 5, right, and I'm pissed off about Nebraska, you ain't going to sit there and say that's a positive year. You're going to understand that we should be pissed off about being 7 and 5.

[Taylor]

Okay, let me finish everything I'm about to say before you speak. The beginning of the year. I 100% believe 7 and 5 is you guys have gotten better. And that is just the reality. The product I've seen from the Nebraska Cornhuskers at this point. What is the date today? October.

[Jack]

October 20th, 10:20.

[Taylor]

Okay. If you guys end up 7 5, it's a failure of a season at this point because you guys have put a great product in the field. Your running back is leading the Big Ten in rushing. Even the though the guy that was in first place didn't play last week, your defense is a lot better. Raola is a great quarterback. And if you can scheme up some things from a protection standpoint, if you go 7 and 5, that is a failure of a season. Absolutely. 10 and 2 needs to be the. Look, at worst 9 and 3. There's no room for error at this point. There's no room for error. Now you can speak.

[Jack]

No, no, you're on the right track. Listen, I was waiting for any.

[Taylor]

No, there's nothing.

[Jack]

I was waiting for any butt in there. And I was going to be like, stop here.

[Taylor]

Exactly. And the intensity in your eyes, buddy. Usc. I can't sit here looking in the eyes and be like, you're for sure going to win that game.

[Jack]

Look, there's things I need to see as well, because I do think USC is a tough football team.

[Taylor]

Right? But you guys got ucla. They got UCLA down the stretch. You got Northwestern this week, who just won 190 versus Purdue. Do you guys need to body bag Northwestern? You guys can body bag Northwestern. Iowa. Yeah. They've had your number for, what, the last 10 years? Yeah, they're eight and two in the last 10 years. Nine and one. This is the year we're flipping the script. Yeah.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

This is the year we're flipping the script. I am truly with you. So if the unthinkable happens in one of these games and I send you a text that says, I'm thinking about you, you know that it's coming from a place of empathy and love, has nothing to do with patting you on the head. That. Pats on the head happen when Michigan's on the schedule. Michigan's no longer on the schedule. That game's gone. It's done. It's over with. It's in the past. I'm with you in the Huskers.

[Jack]

No, I hear you. I. Now. I. I can't promise nothing on how I receive.

[Taylor]

You're much more in this where I am sitting. Sitting a couple rooms away right now, and I can hear the noise, but I'm not involved in the noise because it's not my team. At the end of the day, if anything happens, I'll be there to support, and I'll. It's kind of like one of those things. I'll go to you. I'll see your emotional state, and I'll be like, this is where he wants to be. We can sit in silence with each other for a little bit. There's no. There's no more of that. We can get, like, Matt ruled Penn State. That's a real thing we got to worry about as Nebraska fans.

[Jack]

Taylor on that.

[Hector]

Appreciate y', all, too.

[Jack]

I was ready right before you said that to say, progress, buddy.

[Taylor]

No, no, that. But that's. That's also just real. Like, we have to have real conversations as well.

[Hector]

No, it's still there.

[Jack]

No, it is crazy. You stabbed me again right after being.

[Taylor]

Truly. Guys. It's just that. That. That's a fear we have. We have to sit there and look at. But you want the pressure to get loud. You want the noise to get loud, Great. I'm not.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

It's part of the show where we have to talk about Nebraska. That's one of the things happening in Nebraska, right?

[Hector]

Billy Napier to Nebraska is what the. That one.

[Jack]

That was.

[Taylor]

That was insane. What's insane is you going to a different gambling site and quote tweeting it.

[Jack]

I just. You gotta, you gotta call that out. Another funny thing was Publix was on it.

[Hector]

I saw that. Maybe want a pub sub.

[Taylor]

All right.

[Jack]

A fun show.

[Taylor]

We feel better.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah. Fun show. Marcus Freeman coming up. If you guys are watching right now, make sure you are subscribed to the channel. Leave comments throughout. We love you. We appreciate you. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Enjoy. Marcus Freeman.

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[Jack]

Coach Freeman here, he's got to have some more context. Taylor is notorious for not having a vehicle asking for rides home. He knew that he wasn't going to have a ride home. And it was honestly the finish up of your guys's game against USC. And he waited until it was basically like 10:40 to start asking for rides home when he knew that everybody was going to be up in arms because he's out of the way to take home. And I'm thinking, bro, you're a grown man. You have the Uber app. Like, you should just be, you should just be asked for an Uber because then when you say no, he likes like guilt you or tries to make.

[Taylor]

You feel bad for saying a little crazy.

[Jack]

And so I'm saying no, bro, like that you, you got to take an Uber home in that situation. You knew this was going to happen. If you would have asked me, like if you were coming in and it's like, hey, the Taylon's going to drop me off. I'm flying in from the Michigan game. Like, would you mind giving me a ride home after the stream? I'm positive that if you're asking me that, I would have been like, yeah, I can get you. But if you wait until the last thing and then he's like walking to me, he's like, hey, Will. And I'm like, what's up, bro? He's like, can I get this ride home? And I'm like, no, bro, I'm not giving you a ride home.

[Taylor]

That's fair. Actually, the way he just spelled it out. You don't even need to answer that question. Marcus, let's get into it, huh?

[Marcus Freeman]

Shall we?

[Jack]

Yeah, dude.

[Taylor]

First off, we're going to give you another round of applause because that was an incredible win. A lot of people, the nation after the way USC played against my beloved Michigan Wolverines, people were like, hey, we know USC's nine and a half point dogs against Notre Dame, but we could see them beating them.

[Jack]

Them.

[Taylor]

You guys rushed for over 300 yards in that game after going 02 to start the season. Like, talk about this game plan, rain, everything. Like you guys took it, the adversity and you just kept motoring through. Talk to me about that.

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, I think going into it, you knew how talented of a team they were. Like, this is a talented football team. Obviously you saw what they did with Michigan the week before, but we knew we were going to have to run the ball. Like that was non negotiable. We were going to have to run the ball. We knew there was going to be some weather and our guys up front, blocked, protected, did a really good job and we were able to have some explosive gains. And then defensively we were going to have to do two things. We're going to have to stop the run and make them one dimensional because they've been able to throw and pass the ball for over 200 yards a game. And then we knew we were going to have to stop. Number six, he is one of the best wide receivers in the country. And so we had a plan to do those things. They got yards, but we didn't let them consistently run the ball on us. And we stopped number six from beating us. And, you know, our guys battled, man. We said we had to make this one a bloody one. That's what we said going to the game. We're gonna have to make this one a fight, and they're gonna fight, but we're gonna have to continue to throw punches. And our guys did a good job.

[Jack]

Coach Freeman, you are. You are a defensive mind. Talk about how your defense has gotten better throughout the season. Obviously, you play a couple tough games at the top with Texas A and M and Miami and the playoff. Like, all the speak of, you know, these are clearly Miami or Miami and Texas AM are. Are good football teams. Clearly, they're toward the top. They're both in the top 10. So you can sit there and talk about, you know, hey, we give up this many points, but it's against quality teams. But as a defensive mind yourself, when you're actually in the defensive rooms and you're challenging your defense to get better, how have you seen that progress throughout the season? Because you guys have been very opportunistic, especially in the second half these last few games, getting as many interceptions as you guys have. Talk about how you guys have kind of challenged the defense, not seeing the game. Hey, yes, they are a good football team. They put up, you know, whatever Miami and Texas A and bowl score. But you guys know in house, like, we are a better football team than what we're showing.

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah. I think that's the most important thing, as you just stated, is you have to own the performance. Right. And that if we make excuses and we say, here's what. There's two trains of thought. You could say, okay, we lost the first game by three, lost the second game by one. Or you could say, no, we were 0 and 2 and we had to improve defensively. And our guys owned it, which I knew they would. They owned it. Our coaches owned it. And when you own it now, you can really have the capacity to understand there's answers, there's things we have to do to get better. But if we never own it and we start passing blame, then there's no capacity to understand we got to get better. And so that's what they did. We had to coach better. We had a couple young guys in new spots that had to improve. And part of that improvement takes experience. But we had to continue to create clarity amongst what we're asking our guys to do. And then they've been out Being able to go out there and play with some velocity that it takes takes to improve on defense.

[Taylor]

Talk to me about the growth of C.J. carr. He makes his first start against the University of Miami. You see flashes of like, oh, this kid can be very special if he is, he starts as a starting quarterback going 0 2, and he seemed to be a guy that now is someone you can actually lean on when it comes to an offensive game plan standpoint. Talk about CJ Carr and how ridiculous it was that the University of Michigan didn't offer him because his dad, his grandfather, was Lori Carr.

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah. I mean, you go back to, even when we recruited him, for a kid that grew up in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and, you know, has his last name and the legacy for him to choose to go to Notre Dame, it tells you a lot about who he is. He is a unbelievable talented quarterback, but he has this trait, competitiveness, leadership that very few people have. And, and we probably put restraints around him the first half of game one, and then at halftime we said, okay, we got to let him run this offense and be the quarterback and let him let it fly with the ball. And now you've seen the growth, right? His ability to really see what defenses are doing, put our offense in the right position, run checks, pass checks, protections. He has got a high ceiling and he is truly elevating with, with urgency is what, what I like to tell him. Like, you're getting better fast and the challenge is continuously doing that.

[Jack]

Right.

[Marcus Freeman]

How do I continuously find ways to improve? But there's a lot of confidence in this program when you have CJ Carr as your quarterback.

[Jack]

Yeah, it honestly has been impressive. Hopefully he's not listening to this, so he doesn't believe all the rat poison out there. But to, to that point of the first game, it's like, I, I remember I was favoring Notre Dame in the game, thinking it's going to be trenches, it's going to be run game, defense is going. But when you watch that game, it's like a couple takeaways that I had. It's like, yo, this CJ Carr kid is honestly nice. Like, Miami did a good job shutting down the run and just seeing how the offensive line, defensive line, how that game played out. I remember walking away being like, yo, I think this C.J. carr kid's going to be a dude. Because, correct me if I'm wrong, he was in basically a QB competition all the way up until the opener. I mean, did you know that you were going to have that out of him? Because you Talked about game plan at first. Hey, first half we kind of restricted him a little bit. It's like, hey, we're going to, we're going to need to open him up or know. You, you, what are the things like the it factor that you were seeing that you knew you were probably going to get with him when you did take the training wheels off?

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, I think as I look at the fall camp and it was a great battle.

[Jack]

Right.

[Marcus Freeman]

Kenny Menchie is our backup quarterback. That's ultra talented. And what you never saw one of the two quarterbacks do is just leave the other one. Right. And just say, this is my position and I'm going to just be the guy.

[Taylor]

And.

[Marcus Freeman]

And each of them had a really good day. Bad day, good day. And you know, I think at times he's such a competitor when I talk about C.J. that he, he was competing with Kenny instead of competing with himself. And finally when we made that decision to say, okay, hey, CJ's going to be the guy, you kind of saw this weight lifted off of his shoulders and now he could truly focus on being the quarterback, not worrying about a competition. And, and now you could let him utilize his skill sets that he has. And so I think with any first time starter, you want to be cautious on how much you put on his plate versus a good defense like Miami. But I remember at halftime we just had that conversation, say, hey, let him make the calls, let him make the checks and let him throw it if he feels like it's there and hand it off if we need to get the ball to J. Love or Jadarian, like, give, give him the ball. But I knew we had to, to put more on his plate and let him lead and let him go.

[Taylor]

I want to talk about the man, Marcus Freeman for a second. You go to the university, the Ohio State University. You are hired internally after Brian Kelly leaves two years ago. We were actually at the game Notre Dame and Ohio State, where I believe you guys had 10 men on the field. Ryan Day, he's yelling at a fake Lou Holtz. He's not yelling at a fake Lou Holtz. A whole bunch of things are going on. And then fast forward to a year later, you're playing in the national championship against, against your alma mater. For you, emotionally, what is it like when you see the Ohio State University and they're on the opposing sideline as a guy who used to play there?

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, I think the first time, the first time I actually played Ohio State, I was defense coordinator at Cincinnati and that was Unique going into Ohio Stadium. First time I've been back and probably since I played or actually the year I ga'd there. And then, my friend, first true game as the head coach here in 2022, we played at Ohio State, and that probably was personally emotional. You're looking or. I mean, it's different. This is your first real game. I coached the head coach of the bowl game, but this is the first game of the 22 season, and you still don't know what you know. But then we play them again the following year at Notre Dame, and then we play them last year in the national championship, and then all of a sudden it becomes an opponent, right? It becomes. There's not a. Of Ohio State, former players, like, okay, how do I lead this team that I'm in charge of leading to win a game versus a really talented team? And so I think the experience of the first two times I played Ohio State as a coordinator and as a head coach helped me understand, like, this isn't personal. This is nothing to do with where I went to school. This is personal for me to make sure I lead this team, to be as well prepared for this opponent as I can.

[Jack]

You know, too, like, he was a player. So you can only imagine going up against your own monitor, like, the first two times, it's probably insanely personal. Like, you know, hey, I'm gonna get these boys, right?

[Taylor]

We all have. We all have that moment in our careers where it's like the main character syndrome kind of takes over a little bit. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna get these guys.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And everyone knows I'm gonna get, like.

[Jack]

If I'm walking into Husker Stadium. Yeah. Like, I'm one. Okay. I'm not their guy. Let me show them why. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Why? They should have made me their guy at one point. No, that's true.

[Jack]

Coach, man, I've been a big fan of yours for a long time. And it goes back to that. That video when you got introduced as the head coach, as somebody who absolutely loved my strength and conditioning coach, James Dobson at Nebraska, and being a defensive guy myself and love seeing defensive minds like ass head coaches, like, seeing that reaction from the players, that moment to where you were the guy. It's just. It's an energy that. It's just like, you don't know unless you're just in there and, you know, so from that moment, I've always rooted for you. You take me to win. Now that you have three years of experience, what do you feel like you've learned as the head coach of a program like Notre Dame, especially from that moment to where even though BK left, it seemed like every player and everybody in that building was so damn fired up that you were going to be the Face and you were going to be the guy leading the Irish.

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah. I mean, that's a moment that, you know, obviously means a lot to me, I'll cherish forever. But I think now, looking at this thing three years later, as you said, the. Probably the thing I didn't know at that point, that experience has taught me is, is be grateful for the pain, man. Like, nobody wants to lose. Nobody envisions losing. But I've learned my the most personally, and I think our team and our program has through the losses, through the pain. And I always tell our players, man, be grateful for the pain. We hate losing. Losing is terrible. But at the end of the day, be grateful for that pain because that's where you do your most growth. And it's a reminder that the struggle, the struggle has to occur to have success. And pain of losing helps with that. The pain of what you have to do to prepare each week, like our Tuesdays and Wednesdays have to be home hard and you have to be uncomfortable because that's the only way to get better. It's the only way to. To grow. And so I think that's the one thing I wish I would. That guy right there in 2021 would have known, like, you're going to have losses, and your first two games you're for. Actually, your first three games as a head coach are going to lose, but that's going to help you grow more than anything else. And so that's. That's the thing I continue to remind myself is now we can't keep losing. Right? You can't continuously lose to grow right now, we have to understand with success, how do we continue to intentionally do things that are uncomfortable, that help us grow because we can't continue to lose, to say that's the only way that we're going to grow. Right. You have to be uncomfortable. And those are the things you learn through experience.

[Taylor]

With the new age of college football, it's so unique with the nil stuff going on. The playoff is now 12. It was four. If you're looking at. At Notre Dame, you're an independent school. From a basketball standpoint, you're playing in the acc, and then you lose these first two games, and it kind of seems like, hey, if they go 10 and 2, the logo is going to get them in. They'll probably be able to bounce it over a couple of people. Do you see a place where Notre Dame can find themselves in a Big Ten or in a ACC eventually to where if those, you know, stumble happens early in the season, you'll have the resume. Well, I have no doubt you guys will make the playoff if you win out. But you. There's no question mark of a resume if you go in, you know, go 10 and two.

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah. I mean, the future of college athletics are always uncertain. Right. And with private equity, with what's going to happen with these conferences, you know, if there's a time that Notre Dame has to join a conference to ensure they can have the same opportunities to make the playoffs as everybody else, then, then I'm sure our administration will do it. Currently, the administration and myself and all of us feel confident that if we win the games we're supposed to win, we take care of the business we're supposed to take care of, then we have just as good, good of a chance to make the playoffs as anybody else. And so we're in as. We're as well positioned right now as anybody, we feel. But we can never put our program at a disadvantage for postseason play because we're not in a conference. And if that's ever the case, I'm sure we'll. We'll join a conference.

[Jack]

How do you personally compartmentalize. Like, I feel like you're. Your name starting to come up in conversations. You were the successor. Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. Brian Kelly, there's talks about him at lsu. Your name is starting to come into the fold with some of these big jobs. Obviously you're currently at a big job. How, how do you personally compartmentalize and how do you also, if that noise does get loud, like, how is there. How are the conversations taking place, like, with your team or if you're feeling like a feeling of vibe, it's like, how are you handling that with, with your football team?

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, I think probably as I look at it this year compared to last year, maybe the impossible thing would be to say, oh, no, I'm not interested. I got a great job. And. And yeah. Is that the case? Yes. But, you know, when I do hear a little bit of the noise and I try to control the things I hear, but you're, you're. People know how to text you or say certain things. It. It's a reminder of the gratitude that I have to have for the position this program's in. For the position I have, like, that's what I reflect on Is that, man, first of all, you. Your name wouldn't be mentioned if your program wasn't doing really good things. And the reason why we're doing really good things is because everybody in the program.

[Taylor]

Program.

[Jack]

Right.

[Marcus Freeman]

It's not one person.

[Matt Malone]

Right.

[Marcus Freeman]

I always tell our guys, like, outside of this building, they're. They're always going to point the finger at one person when you have success and one person when you have failure. And it's usually the head coach or quarterbacks. Right? And so I know the reality is it takes us all, it takes every person in this program to have success. And so when you have that mentality, you understand, like, there's a gratitude to the program that I'm. That I'm involved in and I'm a part of.

[Taylor]

Of.

[Marcus Freeman]

But also the opportunity I have to be the head coach here, right in this position that I hold. And so that's. Every time I hear something like that, I just remind myself of the gratitude that I have to be in this position for sure.

[Jack]

I love that.

[Taylor]

That is absolutely beautiful. Let's talk about that Texas A and M game. Last play of the game. It's very clear that the left guard held right. We can all. We all agree on that at this point. Very clear that you guys probably should have walked away with that one when obviously just talking to you for a short time, we've had. You seem like a guy that's going to compartmentalize. You're probably going to get in a. Go into a closet, scream real quick, come back.

[Jack]

You know, you've been a player. You can't let the refs decide.

[Taylor]

The refs decide the football game. What does. Are we sending that in the next week to the commissioner and be like, hey, buddy, we got to make this right somewhere, one way or another. What we got to do here, like, what is. How does that take place for you as a head coach after the game?

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, you. There's plays every week you send in that you send to the acc, the head of ACC officials, and you say, hey, do you agree or disagree with this call? Now, that game, I think we had SEC officials, if I'm not mistaken. So the ACC probably would agree with a lot of things we say, oh, yeah, those are SEC officials. We agreed they shouldn't have called it or should have called it. But that's just really just to get clarification on why a referee called something what they called or is that the right call or not? But I never, ever would allow our program to use that as a reason why we Lost the game.

[Taylor]

You know that, like, fair enough.

[Marcus Freeman]

So many plays within a game that we have to execute that. That play wasn't the only reason we lost a game. It was. It was a accumulation of many plays. But I just don't ever want our guys to make excuses, you know, we gotta own, we gotta own the results, man. And that result was because we didn't play well enough consistently.

[Jack]

Yeah, right.

[Marcus Freeman]

We played well parts of that game, but not enough.

[Jack]

This isn't for you to comment on, but I just personally, whenever the line was six and a half and whenever you guys missed the extra point, I just knew. I'm like, all right, something bad's about to happen here. I had Notre Dame, like, he missed the, the extra point thing happened.

[Taylor]

I'm like, oh, I think we all had Notre Dame in that game. Yeah, something. Something that you can comment on because we're not going to put you in a spin zone to go around a sports gambling question. Dude, when I was at Michigan, every second or third game of the year, it'd be Notre Dame. And it was such a beautiful rivalry. And after I left, you know, I don't know how many years since we have played. Can we, can we talk to some VAD at Notre Dame? Do I have to go talk to Mitchell? We got to get that rivalry back in check. It's such, it's such a beautiful helmet game. Same architect made both stadiums. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's almost a religious experience. Would you be for Michigan, Notre Dame again?

[Marcus Freeman]

Oh, huge proponent. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I remember growing up watching Michigan play Notre Dame.

[Matt Malone]

Right.

[Marcus Freeman]

And that is such a great rivalry. And you talk about two iconic programs. I would love to see that happen in the future. And I don't know if there's discussions. I don't know if it's on our future schedule. It might be.

[Jack]

Be.

[Marcus Freeman]

I think actually now that you said that, Taylor, like, I think it is on our schedule in like 20, 30 or something like that.

[Jack]

Alive. Yeah, yeah, we.

[Marcus Freeman]

That we have to get that back. Back going.

[Taylor]

That'd be awesome. Because if you guys are going to play the Miami's, the A and M's, like, if you're going to schedule big games, it's like, why not schedule a big game with. With some history behind it. It would be awesome.

[Marcus Freeman]

Absolutely.

[Jack]

Coach. I want to have some fun. So what are some fun things that you do with the guys in the hard, monotonous parts of. Again, if I think back to the video where I'm fired up for you, it's like, guys don't get juice like that. You know, as a player, too. Like, when you have a coach that you just ride for, they do something that makes. That makes the game fun or the hard times fun. Maybe it's. It's dances or something before a team meeting. Like, what are things that Coach Freeman does with this team to have fun or keep them on their toes? They're like, they think this is going to be a barn burner today, but I'm going to pull this out on them.

[Marcus Freeman]

One of the things is just. It just popped in my head because we're going to have a team meeting here in about five minutes. And so. And so I usually show Wise Men plays, right? I always say, you know, we'll take plays from other teams, other games, that we have to be wise men. We have to learn from the mistakes of others. But every so often, there's plays or examples of us, our own guys, probably not being wise men.

[Jack]

And, you know, the boys are on them, too.

[Taylor]

Yeah, something pull from an Instagram story or something like that?

[Marcus Freeman]

Yeah, well, we got one. I didn't know this. So I get a call from my wife last night, and she said, yeah, the boys, we have three kids 12 and three boys, 12 and under. And she said they were doing something where they were thrusting the floor. And I'm like, what are you talking about? She said, I went up to the boys, said, what are you guys doing? They said, this is the J Love celebration. She said, what? Oh, that's totally inappropriate. And so I had the clip sent to me because I didn't even know this happened. And he. There he was celebrating. There he was in the end zone. So I'm gonna make sure that gets into our Wise Men plays today.

[Jack]

Oh, I love that. Yeah, that is awesome.

[Taylor]

You need to play that clip and then just have a still photo of your kids and be like, this is who you're affected. We need to handle this business out here, all right? It takes a village to raise kids.

[Jack]

You know, he's just gonna sit there with the click or two, just rewinding it over and over. All the boys are laughing.

[Taylor]

Don't say nothing. Just let them laugh and then let them get real quiet. Yeah, Coach, we know you got to go to your teammate. We really appreciate you coming on the show. We got to get you on the seat one day, or maybe we come out of Notre Dame. I don't know. This relationship rolling in a big way. Appreciate you. Give a round of applause for Marcus Freeman.

[Jack]

Thank you.

[Taylor]

Coach.

[Marcus Freeman]

Appreciate you guys, man. Appreciate you here in South Bend.

[Taylor]

We'll be there. We will come.

[Jack]

Good luck the rest of the the way.

[Marcus Freeman]

Thanks, brother. Appreciate you guys.

[Jack]

Yes, sir.

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