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Gentlemen, welcome to the first episode of the locker room of this season. We are going over the NFL. 32 teams gone through free agency, gone through the draft process, have worked OTAs and worked in camps, all with the hopes and dreams of hosting that Lombardi trophy. Now, today, for the entire year, you have four gentlemen sitting in these chairs. 12 collective pro bowls between the four of us, and a very special free agency acquisition that Buster the boys took on this year. As always, you have myself, Taylor Lawan. You have Delaney Walker, AKA the Mule and Willie C, AKA Will Compton. But the free agent acquisition, the one, the only, Klay Matthews. The bun, the heart and soul of the packers defense. For the longest time, he is sitting with us every single week. Do me a favor, look me in the eyes. We're subscribing, we're unsubscribing, we're resubscribing. Doesn't hurt you at all. It doesn't cost you a thing. But it allows us to keep, keep keeping this thing free, keeping it fun and keeping it nice. Also, do me a favor and comment. All you gotta do is comment. Put a pumpkin spooktober's right around the corner. Do whatever you gotta do. We've got your previews, we got your futures. Today is the day of the rest of our lives and a beautiful 2025 season. Big hugs, tiny kisses. Let's get the foreign ladies. Gentlemen, the locker room is presented by FanDuel Sportsbook, America's number one sportsbook. Before we get into things, we just want to remind you guys that gambling is for entertainment and FanDuel always has your back with tons of responsible gambling tools to make sure your your play is fun and stress free. Check out FanDuel.com RG or the responsible gaming section in the app to learn more about stay in control of your game.
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Will Compton
Boys, we got the squad back together for real all year long. Got Clay Matthews.
Delaney Walker
Yes, sir.
Will Compton
Yeah, had to bargain with him. He wanted a new house.
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Clay Matthews
Private jets.
Will Compton
Private jets.
Taylor Lewan
Fine wine.
Clay Matthews
Great. Jesus. Once Portnoy opened his mouth, you damn right I came back.
Taylor Lewan
That's fair.
Will Compton
Hey, but, but listen, we had to recruit. We had to. We had to host him on in home visits at my house, at Taylor's house. We had to roll out.
Taylor Lewan
Well, had a fake tattoo that said Matthews on his shoulder. Like this is how much I'm buying.
Will Compton
I was showing him my special team game trophies like, hey, this is what we collect when you join the boys.
Taylor Lewan
This is what we collect.
Delaney Walker
A special team.
Will Compton
You come and do a winning program.
Clay Matthews
No, I appreciate it. In all seriousness though, I am excited. I'm fired up. You think of guys like Sam Darnold to the Seahawks, Geno Smith to the Raiders, but Clay Matthews to the boys biggest off season free agent acquisition. So that being said, we got an open locker here, so I brought a few, you know, a few items of mine just to, you know, just to fill the locker out. Okay, hold on. So. So, you know, I come to work so I got the helmet, you know.
Taylor Lewan
That's a real one.
Delaney Walker
That's a real one.
Will Compton
Hey, that's when he was dumb you never, never will.
Clay Matthews
We were cool. Hey, I got the. You know, the custom cleats. Yeah. Ball. We got the name tag. Cool stuff, cool stuff. But it's not just about me. It's about the boys, too. And I'm thinking about you guys. Will, I know you're a big fan of these guys. You're kind of a deviant, too. You talk about your escapades when you're by yourself. So I brought you a little alone material. It's the 2009 Band of Brothers Sports Illustrated with your boys, Cushing and Mauga. I know you're huge fan.
Taylor Lewan
I'm six to midnight right now.
Will Compton
The only. Like, I am very appreciative of this, but knowing that you're Clay Matthews and you're on this, I do feel like I should have all three signatures.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
That would truly make my young 2004 self.
Clay Matthews
No, we can do that.
Taylor Lewan
Classic President I know gets a present. He's like, but I would also like this.
Will Compton
My birthday is September 19th. It's coming up.
Taylor Lewan
Just so you hit. Just hand it back to him. Be like, hey, thank you very much.
Delaney Walker
Take this out. The trophy case is so crisp.
Clay Matthews
Oh, you know, my mom bought like. She went to Barnes and nobles, bought 20. I was going through. Through the boxes. Delaney. I know it's tough working with Will and Taylor every day. Sometimes you might need a drink. So I got you a Clay Matthews.
Delaney Walker
Oh, yeah.
Clay Matthews
Brought to you. We got Bud Light. Hey, but. But always drink responsibly. We understand that, but let's say you skip breakfast, but you need a few beers on the job.
Delaney Walker
Hey, Lucy's.
Clay Matthews
Lucy's are a thing of the past. Okay? But you know what's in. Hey, 2010 wheaties. Fuel. The sugar in here is greater than any nicotine pouch will give you. All right? So that's. That's. That's yours over there. Okay? Hey, Taylor reached out to me this off season. She said, hey, I'm really worried about Taylor. He's gone all the time. He's playing grab ass with Dana. Hey, this is what she said.
Delaney Walker
I wouldn't lie.
Taylor Lewan
This is what she said.
Clay Matthews
You know, when the girls are upset, they're sad, okay? They cry themselves to sleep. So I got them a plush doll that they can sleep with at home so they don't have to be scared anymore. Okay?
Taylor Lewan
God bless.
Will Compton
That is now speaking.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, you might.
Will Compton
It's not over today.
Taylor Lewan
It's not over.
Clay Matthews
Oh, speaking of girls, you know, girl, dad here Will. You know, I know you're a busy man. Too. And I just want your girls to grow up and just look at what a real linebacker looks like. And that's a hundred piece Clay Matthews puzzle right here. So we're gonna have a lot of questions for you, you know, so. Yeah, I just. I'm just bringing gifts, you know, it's gonna do.
Taylor Lewan
It's 100 pieces. Any more than that?
Clay Matthews
Okay, so we're going back to the USC days. Right here. Number 47. You see that Rose bowl patch? So I just add a little bit of color. But this was the 2007 Rose bowl game. Any idea who played the Trojans in this game?
Will Compton
Illinois.
Clay Matthews
The Michigan Wolverines. Hey, who won?
Will Compton
That was 08.
Delaney Walker
They lost.
Clay Matthews
Cushing, defensive MVP. Dwayne Jarrett, offensive MVP, both from Jersey. This will look great in the locker right there. Sorry, it's just part of the show.
Taylor Lewan
Part of the show.
Clay Matthews
I also.
Will Compton
Sherm or anybody with anybody want to build out the locker. Hey, I don't want to rip the cord.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, get Sherm.
Delaney Walker
Get one more.
Will Compton
Oh, he's got more.
Clay Matthews
Last thing. Last thing. I don't want to make this all about me. I'm about the boys. This is why I brought this up. Okay? Now this. I needed a jersey. You know, we got Delaney's jerseys and you boys, but. So this is 2015 NFC wild card victory. Captain Pats right here. Authentic. Any ideas who the packers beat this game?
Will Compton
I'm going to guess The San Francisco 49ers.
Clay Matthews
No, the Redskins.
Delaney Walker
The Redskins. Oh, the commander.
Taylor Lewan
It was in the game.
Delaney Walker
Wait, what?
Clay Matthews
Willie was.
Delaney Walker
No more.
Clay Matthews
And so thank you for bringing me in. These are all random. I didn't think about these at all. I just kind of picked stuff out and, you know.
Will Compton
No, that's an awesome jersey. You had four tackles in that game. As the middle linebacker, I bet.
Clay Matthews
How many sacks? One and a half. That's like half of four tackles.
Delaney Walker
You had. Ten.
Will Compton
Ten, though.
Taylor Lewan
Ten, buddy. You got me leaking early.
Delaney Walker
That was awesome.
Taylor Lewan
Who played that game? I'm going to guess the Niners. You played in that game?
Clay Matthews
No, that was you?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Hey. What an introduction. We're bringing it to show absolutely incredible.
Delaney Walker
That was incredible.
Taylor Lewan
You've heard Alvier's man more prepared for this show than Clay Matthews, per Jeremy Clump. Boys, we got a hell of a slate. That was AFC picks, NFC picks, champions, MVPs. We're building together parlays. It's going to be an amazing year.
Will Compton
Not to bring it back to Clay, but Clay did win a Super Bowl. And since in the theme of we're picking a Super bowl champion, we'll probably be talking about the Eagles a lot. What is the mentality of winning the super bowl and having big expectations going into the next year?
Clay Matthews
Well, I can speak from experience as you know, obviously winning the Super bowl in 2010, you know, we were the sixth seed and we got hot. That's how it is. It's just the hottest team at the end of the year. We weren't the best team, but we were the hottest team. Went on to win 2011. Rolls around, start off like gangbusters. Be the Saints, we go 151 all the way first round. By then we play the, the Giants in the divisional round. They have like the 27th ranked defense. We fall flat on our face. They. They got out there a rod in our offense. Who are those boys on the. Who were those pass rushers back in the day? OC Minora, Justin Tuck, Justin Tucker.
Will Compton
Strahan. Strahan.
Clay Matthews
I don't think Strahan was after the Super Bowl.
Will Compton
Is that it? Was that, Is that when. Is that when the Giants were like the bottom seed?
Clay Matthews
No, that's. I think they won it that year. That was when they beat that giant.
Delaney Walker
They beat us. They beat the 49. Well, beat the Patriots.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Right. The undefeated Patriots.
Delaney Walker
Right. Because we played them.
Clay Matthews
We played them next.
Delaney Walker
They whooped us and then beat the Patriots. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
So xpect you're the Super Bowl.
Delaney Walker
We lost the Super Bowl.
Taylor Lewan
He was in the super bowl with the lights.
Delaney Walker
2012.
Taylor Lewan
And they ran him back.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. 2012. Super Bowl. Baltimore versus San Francisco 49ers.
Will Compton
What year was that?
Delaney Walker
2012.
Will Compton
You also played the packers that year in the playoffs, didn't?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, we.
Will Compton
Wasn't there a tackle that you broke like a big time tackle against one on?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah, definitely I broke one on you. 2000.
Will Compton
2012.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Big.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
That's all right.
Delaney Walker
We.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, it's the NFL. We all get got play. We all get got.
Clay Matthews
No, I don't think it was any that was beating us. I think it was more Kaepernick.
Delaney Walker
It was Kaepernick. No, definitely. I had just a little role in that game. Cap did that all takes a team. Yeah. It takes a team though. You can't be great by yourself.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Thoughts of players of Kaepernick.
Will Compton
I know he's still trying to be.
Taylor Lewan
Self so we'll see how that works out for him.
Will Compton
Very selfless.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. You know, I was just a team player, special teams all around type of guy.
Taylor Lewan
What number were you rocking? 46.
Will Compton
46.
Clay Matthews
Delaney what's wild is how you were like the blocking title.
Delaney Walker
I was.
Clay Matthews
Vernon was the receiving. The receiving. And you always ran 12 personnel. And I was either matched up. And I always knew when I was going against Delaney, like I had to. You know what I'm saying? I strap up a little bit, but Vernon wasn't really interested. He was getting the receiving yards. But then you go to Tennessee and.
Delaney Walker
They switched the role. Yeah. Because we had Craig Stevenson. So Craig was the blocker. When I got in, I knew I couldn't out block him. That dude was.
Taylor Lewan
He was basically an offensive lineman.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
260 pound offensive lineman.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Ox. So they was like, look, you not gonna. He's gonna block. You won't probably be in. And no run plays. I'm like, okay, I'm fine with that.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Let's go.
Taylor Lewan
Quick story about Delaney, man. When I first got there, he would always be walking around the backfield, not doing reps, but just talking. Talking about how y'. All. Y' all ass at blocking. I can block anybody. I'm thinking, this motherfucker, he just catches it. Like, he's a great football player, obviously. And I literally, I think like one day I went and watched some film. Like one of the coaches had like your special teams and you're blocking. I'm like, where the fuck is this? Like, why isn't he blocking? But you were also getting triple cover.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, but they wouldn't.
Taylor Lewan
We had zero threats.
Delaney Walker
I mean, and he got paid.
Will Compton
He didn't have to do the.
Taylor Lewan
He got paid. They're like, you don't worry about the blocking.
Delaney Walker
But it was like, we don't want him in the game blocking. Cause the first year I got there, I almost got hurt blocking. Somebody like ran up on me and I twist my ankle. And they was like, you the best player we got. You are never going back in there.
Taylor Lewan
There was.
Delaney Walker
There works.
Taylor Lewan
Not the lame. There was not the lame. They said that in front of team meeting. Delaney's the only player we have here. You're not blocking anymore.
Delaney Walker
I mean, you know, you know, they said 82's in.
Will Compton
Bird. Bird.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
And then you still couldn't stop me.
Will Compton
What, are we going to do this every time?
Delaney Walker
I'm just saying, everybody understands.
Will Compton
Like, we played each other one time and you had what, 15 yards total in that game? We beat you. Willie C. Covered you. Blanket coverage.
Delaney Walker
Okay. What? Kendall Wright.
Will Compton
I want to see the headlines.
Delaney Walker
What? Kendall, right?
Will Compton
Have Compton & Co. Locks down Delaney Walker.
Delaney Walker
Compton and Co. And co. There you go. And company. Yeah, it took Three.
Taylor Lewan
That's a headline from Bontaire, Missouri newspaper for sure. In high school for sure. Boys, let's get to some future picks. Should we start in the AFC East? Yeah, yeah, let's just start. We can start wherever we want.
Will Compton
Yeah, we can start wherever we want.
Taylor Lewan
It's a lot. I like the Bills, obviously. I think the Bills here. At some point in Josh Allen's career, he has to get over the hump of Patrick Mahomes and these other quarterbacks and make it to the next step. We will talk about the super bowl in a little bit. Going to Rochester, watching the Bills, seeing how they operated, watching Josh Allen from every single arm angle. Like I think he missed two throws the entire day and one of them was a drop. He's got the moxies, got the bravado, he's got the attitude. You get some additions like Joey Bosa back on, you kind of switch him and Von Miller out. Truck comes in there. Only concern I have for the Bills is Elijah Moore. You get him Fortress, former second round pick. He goes. They're talking about how excited they are about Elijah Moore. This guy is going to be the weapon, the speed that they need at the Bills. Now there's a couple articles that came out, I believe it was yesterday, that Elijah Moore is having a tough, tough camp. He might be a cut candidate and might not even make the 53 man roster. Insert the possibility of Gabe Davis. His best years were at the Bills. I got opportunity to talk to him. We're at UFC hanging out with Dana White and he popped by. He's like, I think I'm going with the Bills. I think that's what's going to happen for me. If he's able to go there. I think Josh Allen has all the tools. And they repeat again. AFC East.
Will Compton
I feel like the only question mark is the wide receiver room. Yeah, it's. You got Coleman, Josh Palmer. Josh Palmer and who?
Clay Matthews
Khalil Shakur?
Will Compton
Yes, Shakir. I think that's really the only question mark because I got the Bills taking the East 2. I do think the Patriots have a little dark horse shot. I think they make it interesting, obviously variable. It's a new regime, everything else. But I think Drake may in his second year. I think they got a lot of weapons. I think they're healthy right now. We were talking, we were out there at Patriot training camp. They feel good about everything but you know, like Rabel, they're going to have some good culture wins in the first year. They could be a dark horse shot because they don't have too tough of a schedule. When looking at all 32 teams, very easy. But that would be my only thing against the Bills is what is their receiver room gonna. How is the receiver room gonna produce with Josh Allen? He is. I mean, Josh Allen's a superhero.
Taylor Lewan
But another. If we're staying on the. The. The category of like, what had the Bills up against him, it's their passing defense. Last year wasn't.
Will Compton
But they were very unhealthy.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
Very injured. It's kind of been that way the last couple years.
Taylor Lewan
Matt Milano, he's coming back from a leg injury. You bring Joey Boston, he's a new shot of Michael coming from the Chargers. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
It's like you're hoping that they. That the defense understands what's at stake. When you have a guy like Josh Allen with the opportunity to win a Super bowl. Every single year, it's the Bills play the Chiefs in the regular season. Whoever wins that game, lose in the playoffs. And Josh Allen has always kind of won that regular season game and lost in that playoff game.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
So it's time for them to make that step. I do like the Patriots maybe taking second in there, making it a little bit interesting with the Bills. I think when it comes to just the talent of both teams, the Bills have that more cover than the Patriots. From a game plan standpoint, from a keys to victory. We've been in that locker room. We understand that Ravens have those guys dialed in every single time. I just don't think they're there from a personnel standpoint just yet.
Delaney Walker
Well, that's why. So I'm going with the Patriots. And it's funny you say the personnel.
Will Compton
You go with Patriots to win the division.
Delaney Walker
The division. I am taking the Patriots to win the division. Like you said, a dark horse. I feel like those guys is going to step up, especially with Mike Vrabel. Again, we all know Mike Vrabel. We know how fast he can turn a program around, just with his mindset of the defensive mindset, the culture he brings, the leadership that he brings. He played the game. He understand. He know how to take care of the players, the older players, give them time off, rest them so they ready to go in the game. But I'm going to talk about them not having the pieces. Well, they have a lot of cap flexibility. That's the big thing right now. You know how Vrabel likes to go and find players that he can use during the season. And if they have cap room, we can bring in anybody. The sky's the limit but they helping them all helping them out. Drake may out by bringing in an all pro receiver and Stephon Diggs, that's going to help him out being a safety blanket, throwing him the ball, getting him going. They also have a young running back that's going to be crisp. What's his name?
Taylor Lewan
Travion Henderson.
Delaney Walker
Henderson.
Taylor Lewan
Oh State buddy. His some of the clips you've seen coming out of camp is crazy.
Will Compton
Dusting him in the red zone one on ones nuking even in team reps like you can see just in the red zone periods not going to put too much out there but he's going to be a weapon out of the.
Delaney Walker
He is going to be a way and you know variable likes to run the ball. We all know that. Get the get us going by running the ball and then we'll do some play action get some guys down the field. But again they do have an easy schedule. I feel like the Patriots can sneak in there and take the division.
Taylor Lewan
Listen, you talk, you talk about the salary cap but it's like that salary cap's already kind of done for this year. Stefan Diggs is an all pro player. He's a guy that we all look at. He's got the name recognition but he's coming off of an ACL and he's had a couple of tough years since he's left the Bills a couple of years ago. Then you got the fourth overall pick, Campbell, who's playing left tackle for them. He's got the people hate on the shorter arms and all that. I think everyone's happy with what he is. He's a gritty, tough nosed guy that's going to battle it out week in and week out. You're not going to have to worry from an injury standpoint from him and toughness. But it's like there's always going to be the learning curve. You're going to come across these aliens week in and week out and being a rookie starter left tackle, there's going to be some growing pains that they're going to have to dean plan for to make sure that he's taken care of when you get into those late October, November, December games. So there's a lot of things working against them. Their coaching staff's outstanding. They have players. I just think the Bills have a little more grasp on the east, especially for this year. What do you got Clay?
Clay Matthews
I mean I'm just deferring to you guys. Haven't gone to camp, haven't been with Raybone, understand the pages but I think what you're saying, Taylor, is. I think they're just, you know, the cream of the crop right now. Like last five, you know, AFC East, Bills ran it. I think they're going to do it again. I think with Josh Allen at the helm, you know, like you had said, Bosa coming in, switching him with Vaughn, like, I just think they're too good. I don't think anybody else in that division presents a problem. Patriots on their way up, obviously, but I just think this year, 20, 25. Yeah, until. Until you tell me otherwise. Yeah, it's the Bills.
Taylor Lewan
And none of us are even mentioned the Dolphins either.
Will Compton
I think they're the most disappointing throughout the off season. Yeah, when McDaniels comes in, I want to say the excitement was there because he's coming from this regime of that young tree out there of Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur. Like, they've all worked together. He's bringing this over to Miami. That first year they had, a lot of the creativity is on offense. He is super creative. He's going to continue to be creative. He's got a lot of weapons. He's got a lot of aliens. But you just see on the outside looking in all the internal stuff that's kind of went on, the separation with Tua, the stuff in the media with Tua and Tyree, kill them publicly talking about it, players being vocal about practice to the reporters, to where now the reporters are asking McDaniels. And it's not like he's got a stature in laying the law down of what practice is going to be like. Hey, this is our culture. Everything else, he kind of just kind of rolls with the punches. I just. I don't know if a respect meter has gone down there again. I'm not in the weeds that much. I just see what comes across my timeline, and I feel like that's been what's been disappointing with the Miami Dolphins because it felt like, especially a couple years ago, they were a team that could compete or be on the rise. With the creativity of McDaniels coming in, it feels like I think the Dolphins are going to be last in division. I think Aaron Glenn is going to bring some culture, wins and establish something with the Jets. I don't think the jets are going to be, you know, the number two team in the AFC in the AFC east, but I think Aaron Glenn and the staff he brought over with them from Detroit, I think they're going to be a little surprised because they have a. They have a great. They have Players on defense, they got some weapons on offense, but that's kind of how I see the. The AFC East.
Taylor Lewan
I was, I was hanging in there with you until you said the jets being above the Dolphins. I think McDaniels is just. He's too creative on the offensive side of the ball. You still have two. You still have Tyreek Hill. You're missing your entire secondary from the years prior. Getting Jalen Ramsey, guys getting injured. Jalen Ramsey goes to the Steelers. But like, the jets are a franchise and they have a. They have an amazing fan base. However, I'm officially in a Show me. Don't tell me. Because every single time they have a new coaching staff come in with this regime from this, this team that won a bunch, they had a great culture. They're going to steal the culture. It just never shows up. And so, like, I need to see something before I say something.
Delaney Walker
The only thing with Miami scares me is Tua, man, if Tua is not healthy, if he gets hurt, take another concussion. We saw what the Dolphins can do. Without him, they can't win a game. So without him, they're in trouble. So if this man take a hit on his noggin again, he. What are.
Will Compton
Where are they? But also, it's like talking about how important culture is. Like, if you're going to be a team known that a team that's known for creativity and strategy. I'm not going to say like being cute, but McDaniel's like, if a strategy or something doesn't work one week. And this is the feeling you get of the players and how they. The respect meter with the head coach or what goes on in the media when everything kind of goes to shit or doesn't go well one week, that affects the rest of the season. Whereas you're going to have. You were talking to it earlier, like Vrabel turning around an organization and his leadership and everything else. And like diving into that. There's a team meeting that happens every morning to where Vrabel paints you keys of success in offense, defense and special teams and paints you a picture of how you're going to win the football game. Paint you a picture through practice reps. Paint you a picture through your opponent and who they've played against. This is why this is a team key. This is why you have to affect the pocket. This is why you got to get Lamar Jackson thrown outside the pocket, get him thrown sideways outside the numbers. We can't have these hashes open in the middle. He paints you such a vision. And again I only know what, how players have spoken about Aaron Glenn and how he was at Detroit, on how they spoke about him at Detroit. I feel like culture being established is a massive thing and I feel like where Miami's at, it's just going to take one bad week for it to kind of just go, kind of go south.
Taylor Lewan
You talk about being cute and all that. Kansas City Chiefs are like, they are. They can be cute when it's short, short yardage type of situations where you think obviously you're going to run, they'll get cute. Slash a guy, he goes out the backfield, you just dink it over to him real quick and they get the first down. They've created evidence that when they get into situations, they're able to come through. McDaniels has not created the evidence of being cute. Pays off consistently. I think Andy Reid, that's the difference between andy Reid and McDaniels, aside from super Bowls winning, all that stuff. But yeah, the cuteness works. But you have to create consistent evidence for players to fully buy in all the time on it. So I agree with you on that point. We'll end up this episode real quick to bring you Form Energy. Form Energy delivers a best in class taste with natural flavors and zero sugar. Form Energy has natural caffeinated, derived from green tea. Form comes in a variety of flavors. Talking about screaming freedom. That's Rocket pop inspired. Yeah. Grape Smash, Blue Blitz, Orange Fury. Perfect for those who love to put in the work. Form Energy. We do the work. When your boys are here studying for these things, what do we do? Crack the top of a Form Energy. Slow that thing down. We're wired, we're moving X's and O's, I's and W's. We're like computers out there. We do the work. Form Energy. Back to this episode.
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Clay Matthews
Is that your segue to the AFC west though, with the Chiefs, or you want to.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. AFC West. Like when we're sitting in the AFC West. It's like one of my favorite divisions to kind of look at.
Will Compton
Broncos. Oh, yeah, Chargers.
Delaney Walker
I'm going Broncos.
Clay Matthews
I got the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs much like the bill. Okay, here's what I. Here's what I got, though. I got the Broncos and Chargers making the playoffs, too. I got three teams out of the AFC west making the playoffs.
Will Compton
You don't think. You don't think. You think the Raiders get left behind?
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's go. But I don't want. I don't want to.
Will Compton
I don't want your boys out there now.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, no, Pete's out there and he's gonna Chip Kelly.
Will Compton
O.C.
Clay Matthews
You'Re right.
Will Compton
Geno Smith Middle fingers coming out of the. Coming out of the top.
Clay Matthews
Raider nation is back. Raider nation is back. But it's the first year. Okay, it's the first year. But here's what I'm saying. Like, the Chiefs are the Chiefs. Like, there's no reason to bet against them at this point. Like, who have they lost? Who are they? Lo? I know they're getting long in the tooth with Kelsey, but, like, as long.
Delaney Walker
It'S Josh, the receiving corps is a suspect.
Clay Matthews
But who was Buddy who got hurt? Who's coming?
Will Compton
I mean, they are.
Delaney Walker
So you got Rice going to be suspended for four games. Hollywood Brown, he stays injured. But Pacheco, Pacheco, that's the run game. Jamie Worthy is the only right now. The only threat they have right now. Let's be honest, for the Chiefs. Yeah, but he'll force suspension, though.
Taylor Lewan
He's got a lot of.
Clay Matthews
7, 800.
Delaney Walker
Well, Kelsey always gonna be true. Kelsey gonna always be the truth. We know that.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Will Compton
Noah. Noah. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Noah Gray is a beast. Beast can play the slot, play outside. Don't look like a tight end when he's out there running routes. You want that. But again, you still need receivers. I get it. They got Xavier. He can take the top off. But you're going to need those guys when they double team in either Kelsey or Xavier, you're going to need those guys to get open.
Clay Matthews
I just don't see the Broncos or the Chargers. I see them both being like a 9, 10 win team. And I see the Chiefs back up there 11 or 12. I think it'll be close. I think obviously with Harbaugh down there in LA and then, you know, the Broncos and Buddy from Oregon. What's his name? Yeah, Bo. Nick's playing well. I think they'll all take that next step. But I still think they're chasing the Chiefs. I think they close the gap that much more. But the Chiefs are the Chiefs.
Taylor Lewan
You can't disagree with the Chiefs division.
Delaney Walker
We got 15, they got 15.
Taylor Lewan
It's more fun to look at the AFC west and be like, we got Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, Andy Reid and Sean Payne all in the same division. All of them have quarterbacks like people want to hate on Geno Smith. Geno Smith is a dog. Mitch, the other day, put a little stat up. I don't know if you have a microphone. I don't know it right now, but if you got something. Do you have. What's that stat?
Delaney Walker
It was like the last two or three years, he's led the league in completion percentage. And then like two years ago, he led the league in passing yards. Who did?
Taylor Lewan
Geno Smith.
Delaney Walker
Oh, yeah. Geno Smith.
Taylor Lewan
Hell of a coach. You can attest to that. What does Pete Carroll love? He loves a strong run game. He got Ashen Genti in the run game. You go to the top.
Will Compton
Do they have the offensive line?
Taylor Lewan
You look at Harbaugh and you're like, he's doing Rich Eisen show. Sitting there, being like, I've had. Having dreams, affirmations. I've done ayahuasca in the desert saying, I've got to get Justin Herbert to the hall of Fame. How do you do that? By winning Super Bowls. Unique culture guy. And people are buying in. In year two, you look at the. Just the culture for Jesse Minter from a defensive coordinator standpoint. He took them from a below average defense to a top 10 defense in the NFL last year. That's going to be big time. Bo Nix, ultimate pro. Sean Payton, Peanut butter and jelly. They're feeling each other. Mile High Stadium, very difficult place to play. And also like the Chiefs didn't have any big acquisitions during the, during the free agency process. Like the Chargers went and got Micah Becton, who no one's really talking about, won a Super bowl last year with the Eagles. Like, was playing tackle, realized he's not as light footed as he should be. Goes in and goes into guard and it starts playing. Was it. Who's a. Who's an online coach? Stalwart stall.
Delaney Walker
Is he getting moved back to go tackle?
Taylor Lewan
No, no, no. Because you got two great. You got Rashawn Slater.
Clay Matthews
Slater's out.
Delaney Walker
He's out.
Taylor Lewan
Broke his leg.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, he broke his leg.
Taylor Lewan
So I think you keep beckoning. You gotta keep him in that phone booth. Listen to me. Keep him in the phone booth area. Also shout out Rashawn Slater getting broke off 100 plus.
Delaney Walker
I know. And then get hurt.
Taylor Lewan
It's a fun division to look at.
Clay Matthews
It happens.
Taylor Lewan
It's a fun division to look at. I like the Chargers, but I also like the Chiefs, but I also like the Raiders. I also like. It's like, it's fun. It's fun.
Delaney Walker
It's tough.
Clay Matthews
You talk about like, no free agent acquisitions, though. That was the same approach we took in Green Bay, though. We always draft and develop. Like, why? You don't need to change something that's not broken right now. Three Super Bowls in a row. Yeah. You come up short to an amazing Philly team. I mean, yeah. Like the sexy thing to do is go in and bring these free agents, but They've got the squad, they've got the team, they've got the coach.
Will Compton
Like how many one score games did they win last year through?
Clay Matthews
Well, that show. You can either say that.
Taylor Lewan
Like this, like a little ticky tacky things like you can't rely on that. I'm. Dude, I'm with you. Like, am I going to be surprised when and if the Chiefs win the division again? No, no. But it's like, how exciting is the AFC West? And he lost Joe Tuni, by the way, Michael, Nicole Hardman, DeAndre Hopkins was in there for a couple Ravens. So it's fun. Fun. It's fun, dude. AFC North.
Will Compton
That's a fun one.
Delaney Walker
That's gonna be tough.
Clay Matthews
I got the Ravens. I got the Ravens. I think the Bengals. Hey, you just gotta go with what it is. I'm saying the AFC is not difficult if you miss on the afc.
Will Compton
Chiefs, Ravens.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Bills, Ravens. Chiefs.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, every.
Delaney Walker
Every tie team.
Clay Matthews
I'm about winning. I'm about to stacking dubs. All right, you guys, to the nfc. Having played the NFC my entire career, I feel good about that. You all AFC boys talking about Vrabel and the notes he puts on the. On the whiteboard and whatnot. Like, I don't care. I want to know who's going to win. All right. And that's going to be the Ravens.
Will Compton
All the best.
Taylor Lewan
Hey, we got another Delaney on the squad, too. I'm going to take these favorites. I'm going to take a money line.
Clay Matthews
I got the Bengals making the playoff as well. It's a wild card. I think they get off to a slow start as well. They don't have an offensive line to block for Joe Burrow. Defense. I think you think of the chemistry of the Bengals, you see what's going on with Trey Hendrickson. They don't want to invest in their guys. It's been like that since Carson. Even before. Before him. It's just. I don't think it's a locker room that is. There's not a lot of synergy or cohesiveness. And then, like I said, I'm not in there. I'm just. I'm just, you know, seeing what I'm seeing here. Yeah. And I think, you know, with Burrow back there, he's capable of throwing, you know, 5,000 yards, but at the end of the day, I don't think their defense holds up. I think they lose some of these games. And I think the Ravens with Lamar Jackson are just, you know, that team in afc. I think they. They win afc.
Will Compton
Jones, Bateman.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
King, the O line. D line.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, D line.
Taylor Lewan
Got a great left. Ronnie Stanley. Like, they. I mean, they had a tough time gelling earlier in the years. They really figured themselves out.
Delaney Walker
They got, they brought.
Taylor Lewan
There's a reason why they're -155.
Delaney Walker
Mike Green, rusher.
Taylor Lewan
That's a squad, right?
Delaney Walker
Jair Alexander.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah, they got a Jair Alexander. They got a squad.
Delaney Walker
They got a squad.
Taylor Lewan
I want to sit there and raise a flag for the Bengals. So much like, I love Joe Burrow so bad. Quarterback. Like, he deserves 22 guys on all three sides of the ball, like, playing as well and as hard as he is. But the defense for me is where I have to stay away at. Trey Hendrickson, he's trying to figure it out. He's mad disgruntled. Their first round draft pick almost went back to A and M. They have a whole back and forth. It's like they didn't necessarily get better on the defensive side of the ball. And then like, Joe Burrow was essentially like Cam Ward in Miami last year. He's like, he's got to drop 40 just to win a game.
Delaney Walker
Just to win the game.
Taylor Lewan
So it's like, yeah, it's fun to watch. And I mean, Chase is unbelievable. Like, they have a great offense. They paid everybody, too. But I feel like the Steelers.
Clay Matthews
I was gonna say add an A rod to the mix.
Taylor Lewan
I feel like Steelers are in the best possible position you can be in, man. Like when Aaron Rodgers went to the jets, it's like, the jets are back. They're gonna do X, Y and Z. Obviously what happened happened at the Jets. Now no one's talking about Aaron Rodgers. Like, that new car smell has kind of worn off. Has he lost it? Is he. Is he done? Is he just doing getting a paycheck? Can he not walk away from the game? I feel like that's exactly where Aaron Rodgers wants to be. The OC Arthur Smith, he does a good job of handling unique relationships. Who does the best job? The head coach, Mike Tomlin does an amazing job. I love the addition of DK Metcalf. I love John F. Smith, who I think is a wildly underrated tight end.
Will Compton
Back with Arthur Smith.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. So right now the Steelers are sitting in a spot where it's like no one's talking about them. And that's exactly where they need to be. I mean, they paid T.J. watt, you know, the entire bank. He's the highest non paid quarterback of all time.
Will Compton
Leadership with Hayward.
Taylor Lewan
Leadership with Hayward. Highsmith.
Delaney Walker
He want to get high.
Taylor Lewan
Smith is a guy that I swear to God is not talked about enough. He had a groin last year and an ankle last year. He missed like six or seven games. Still recorded six sacks. Like, that's a guy. When he's fully healthy, you got to watch out for him, too. But that allows TJ to eat more, allows Cam to eat more like you. I think the Steelers are going to surprise a lot of people. I'm taking them.
Clay Matthews
Jalen, too. You talked about him coming up from Miami, like, you had him at cornerback or, you know, however they want to get creative with him.
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Will Compton
I think right now they have a lot on the depth chart for nickel.
Delaney Walker
Nickel. Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Which means, like, I just feel like he's still got.
Delaney Walker
He's gonna be a beast covering that tight end.
Taylor Lewan
The attitude.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I tell you what, we got to get corners away from the loose sleeve jerseys, though. I don't, I don't subscribe to that.
Delaney Walker
Tighten it up. I like when they have loose jersey.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Get off.
Taylor Lewan
I don't know why that became cool. Why'd you do it?
Delaney Walker
It just, I don't know.
Taylor Lewan
I got, I got the Steelers.
Delaney Walker
The only thing scared me with that is Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers. I just, I, I, I know art.
Clay Matthews
We have, I know Art that if.
Delaney Walker
They, when it start going wrong, they gonna be butting heads. And I told y', all, but I told you about Aaron Rodgers. It's gonna go wrong with.
Taylor Lewan
It doesn't go go wrong.
Delaney Walker
It's gonna go wrong with Aaron Rodgers straight up.
Will Compton
You think so?
Clay Matthews
Oh, no, I, I think, I think it's.
Will Compton
Let's keep it a buck. You know him?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, no, I know a Rod.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, listen, let's zoom in here.
Clay Matthews
Oh, like What, a year? 20 year. 21 for him right now. Like, great coaches, they understand their players, what they're capable of doing. Aaron can do everything. And if that means, you know, he's got his checks out there, like, I can't see speak to, you know, when he's behind center and he's doing what he does out there. But, like, his football intelligence is greater than probably any coach out there because he has seen it. He's been through it. He sat behind Favre. He's now moved around a few franchises. Like, I think he's just that guy. And he wants everybody on deck, everybody on the same page. Hopefully that's the case with his receivers. I know from watching the jets last year, it was just, it was dysfunctional, just not from an organizational standpoint. Perhaps it Was. But it was just watching it on game day, not, you know, understanding what they're running, the passes.
Will Compton
So there were moments, though, last year, like, it's not like he.
Clay Matthews
No, absolutely. If you look at his stats, you think. You think he was terrible. You look at his stats, I don't know what they are off the top of my head, but, like.
Will Compton
Like upper 3000.
Clay Matthews
Upper 3000s. Yeah. And. But I think, like. Like you had mentioned Mike Tomlin as the head coach. You know, that defense, phenomenal offensive acquisitions. I think they're primed to be a, you know, a dark horse in this game.
Will Compton
I got Aaron Rodgers throwing for over 4,000 this year.
Delaney Walker
That's crazy.
Taylor Lewan
I like that.
Delaney Walker
And I like that because, you know, Arthur Smith don't go deep a lot. He likes to run.
Taylor Lewan
Arthur. Dude, eventually, Arthur Smith's got to adapt or die. Like, you gotta.
Will Compton
I got Aaron Rodgers throwing.
Clay Matthews
Who's been his quarterback.
Delaney Walker
Who's been his quarterback with us. We. Ryan Tannehill, Marcus Mariota, not Aaron. I know, but it's the point of. Is Aaron still. Is he still going to have that ability to get the ball down the field? I don't think they owe lines.
Will Compton
Never had a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers.
Delaney Walker
I know, but they ain't never. Also, the old line is not as strong as y' all saying it is, so. And Aaron Rodgers can't play behind a weak old line because he's not about to be running all over the field. That's not him. He's too old to do that. He won't do that. I'm telling you right now. That's what. That's where I feel like the upside is going to come down. Just like what you said. He feel like he's so smart. He's smarter than offensive coordinator. That shit get that rubs people the wrong way. When you in the meeting room when your quarterback is like, oh, well, nah, we should do it together.
Will Compton
You don't think they haven't been building the synergy since Aaron Rodgers walked in the door?
Delaney Walker
I mean, he gonna. Arthur gonna play his role just, you know, to make. To make him please him until he don't have to. That's just what I feel. I just feel.
Will Compton
Here's why I like the Steelers in this division.
Delaney Walker
I don't.
Will Compton
And I like the. I like the. The Ravens have the best team. Ravens are going to be the hardest to beat.
Taylor Lewan
Right.
Will Compton
Obviously would not be surprised if they win the division. I would love to see Burrow just throw for 4,500. I'm close to picking that on FanDuel right now. Joe Burrow throwing for over 4,500.
Delaney Walker
I would rather do that one than Aaron Rodgers.
Will Compton
But here's why I like, here's why I like the Steelers coming out on this division. Because when you look at the schedule between the Ravens and the Steelers, I'll just rattle these off. Ravens got to play. They open up at Buffalo, they host Detroit, they play at Kansas City, they're playing Houston, the Rams, you got Minnesota, you got obviously their in division games. You got New England, you got Green Bay. They're playing a lot of playoff teams that were in the playoffs last year. And when you go to the Steelers, you're not seeing any of those teams like they go at New York, the Jets, they play Seattle, they play New England, they play Minnesota, they play the Browns or obviously the teams in their division, the Colts, Green Bay, the Bears, they don't have, they don't have a.
Delaney Walker
Lot of first five games.
Will Compton
They don't have a lot of like ex playoff teams that they have to play. Similar to.
Delaney Walker
How many Ravens do you think they win out of the first five? How many are you giving them out of the first five?
Will Compton
So they got their first four is the Jets, Seattle, New England, Minnesota. And then they have a bye week in the Browns. If they're dropping any games. I see them dropping New England, New England or Minnesota.
Taylor Lewan
But also Minnesota's got a new quarterback, J.J. mcCarthy.
Will Compton
I mean, yeah, Minnesota I think is a year away. They're hosting Minnesota.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, yeah.
Will Compton
Well, they're not hosting. It's 8:30am so that tells me it's overseas.
Delaney Walker
Oh yeah.
Taylor Lewan
But hosting.
Will Compton
But those first four, you know how you break it down too, like as a player. Obviously there's more games now, but one of 16. One of 16 games. It's like a quarter at a time. Your first four years. Yeah, first four, you open up with the Jets, Seattle, New England, Minnesota, you get three of them. They're in a great spot.
Delaney Walker
They go Jets. They playing the jets at the Jets.
Will Compton
Yeah, they're going to New York.
Delaney Walker
I really think the jets going to turn around this year. We'll see.
Will Compton
And then the Ravens in their first four, you got Buffalo, the Browns, the Lions, Kansas City.
Delaney Walker
I like it.
Will Compton
Well, yeah, it's great for football, it's great for fans. Electric year. But I'm saying that's a juggernaut.
Delaney Walker
That's a jug. That's a, that's a purely based on.
Will Compton
Schedule and teams they have to play. Ravens feel like they're playing everybody from the Playoffs last year, John Blake. Pittsburgh feels like they're not. They're not playing any of those things outside of their division. That's been the playoffs.
Taylor Lewan
AFC South, Texans, Texas.
Will Compton
It's heartbreaking Texas.
Delaney Walker
I mean, the Titans got to show me something. I just couldn't decide on picking the Titan.
Taylor Lewan
Also, there's a helicopter going by right now in the locker room. Onward, Texans.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
What do you guys think about the stuff that just went down with the Colts?
Delaney Walker
I mean, I believe that was going to happen. The man couldn't pick up a regular blitz on a cover two rotation.
Clay Matthews
Anthony Richardson.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, Anthony Richardson. He couldn't pick up that blitz. It was a. It showed cover 2, but they rotate to a cover 3. Brung only like a Sam Dog or something like that. And he didn't see it. Breaks his pinky. You don't want to put a quarterback out there. He's a liability. You have to make that decision. You have to. Dan Jones, all he can do is lose the position and Richardson goes back in and gets his job back. That's literally where we're sitting at with that decision.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. And it's, you know, that was his second year. Last year start. Was he.
Will Compton
He's in year three.
Clay Matthews
Okay.
Will Compton
I mean, he's only played 15 games total because he's got a lot of injury, like a lot of injuries. He gets injured.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. Well, you think of like the Trey lance situation, the 49ers, when they, you know, they benched him, so to speak. And I know because of injuries as well, but it takes a lot. You almost commend the team for ripping the band aid off and admitting the mistake of drafting him. So, you know, it's. It's tough, you know, to kind of see that situation. But you look at, like you said, all the off field stuff too, like, like, you know, coming out of the game, pulling yourself out when you're tired. We got a hip hop rap career on the side, too. Like, you need everybody bottom in. And I think Daniel Jones gives him a better chance. But a better chance to do what? It's not win the division.
Will Compton
People are going after the Colts, too, because it's like they're seeing it as the Colts organization. You KNEW he was 21 years old, you knew he was young. You knew he was going to be a project. You got to give him reps. You have to give him time. And I think all of us from, like, with experience playing in the league, like this game has a small window for everybody, not just the players, the staff, front office people there's probably people sitting in that front office saying like, yeah, we gave up on them. Like this person's saying it right. There's probably people being like, we should have done this a while back because you have the injury. He hasn't been available. Your best ability is availability in the NFL. He hasn't been available because of injuries. Is he showing promise and progress on the promise side? He flashes, he makes incredible plays. But as far as consistency, doing the little things, hitting guys out in the flat, picking up Simple Day 1 Install blitzes in preseason. Preseason, it's like how long of a lease are you going to give them before the staff or people in the front office start feeling tight? We're not going to have a long time here if we don't make a decision.
Taylor Lewan
They're essentially preserving themselves or like we got to.
Will Compton
Yeah, hey, we have to admit that we kind of fucked this up. Daniel Jones, I only know based on one interview that happened in the locker room where they were interviewing one of the players and they talk about how much command that Daniel Jones has. They talk about his intangible stuff. He just seems to understand and know the offense. They did the same thing last year when they threw what, Flacco in there when they ended up pulling the plug on Anthony Richardson because they're like, hey, we're just going to start Flacco. Dude pulls himself out of the game for being too tired, gets called out. Like, I'm not surprised. I feel like it was bound to happen. Especially again, not being on the inside. It's the promise and making progress. And apparently he hasn't made the progress or he hasn't had the intentionality of being in the room. Maybe he shows up early, but maybe it's not carrying over to the. From practice field to the games and it's just like, what the fuck else can we do here? For the highest of highs when he does have them, but the inconsistencies and the floor he has right now, it's almost like they had to make the switch to Daniel Jones.
Taylor Lewan
Anthony Richardson, he only knows this answer, but it's like, how much effort and work are you putting into the day in and day out processes of being able to be an NFL quarterback. He's the only one that knows that answer. For them to make this decision at this point right now, for Daniel Jones to be the starting quarterback, it's got to be a. Daniel Jones is just above and beyond right now and the self preservation of the upper office. Jim Merce, he's gone now like Ownership, there's a whole, there's a lot of changes.
Will Compton
DJ Might be operating right now in that building.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, he, he might be. The people I feel bad for are like Quentin Nelson. Yeah. He's sitting in the locker room. He, he was asked after practice the other day, you know, are you frustrated because you're not having a quarterback in there year in and year out, when you have a kind of a revolving door of who your guy is going to be? And as politely, and we all know Quinton Nelson, how good of a guy he is off the field, as politely as he possibly could, said yes, it's very frustrating to not have that cohesiveness, that consistency of having somebody back there that you can build a rapport with week in and week out, year in and year out. So it's like it's hurting them. They've got to find their guy. Is DJ the guy? I don't know. But if Anthony Richardson is not the guy, it's like sometimes you got to just make a clean cut. Now the good news for Anthony Richardson, Bryce Young, he was benched last year, comes back, he kind of re sparked and reignited like, okay, maybe we do have something here. He got a little kick in the ass. Baker Mayfield is the first overall pick for the Cleveland Browns. He starts bouncing over the place, kind of resurrects his career when he has a two day notice with the Rams, comes by and has a game winning drive. Now he's found a home and $100 million contract at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So there's still hope for him. There's got to be a level of maturity that takes place, an understanding of your process, how your mind works and the best way for you to get from Sunday to Sunday with the answers to the test. He's got to figure that out. No one else can do it for him. Sucks for him. You just kind of hope that they kind of right the ship. What hurts me more than anything is picking the Texans.
Delaney Walker
I mean, Daniel Jones, like few years ago he was an elite quarterback. They gave him a deal. We thought he was going to be a stud. And he came out and he pretty much shit the bed.
Will Compton
Well, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of evidence and a resume there that, you know, they're running through like five different offensive line rotations. They're working, he's working with the threes. There's not a lot of weapons. Yeah, he had Malik neighbors last year and stuff, but he hasn't necessarily had a roster to work with the Colts do have some talent on the roster, so it will be interesting to see it. And also at the beginning, when they brought Daniel Jones in, I. They. The Colts are saying, like, this is a. This is a. This is an open competition.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will Compton
His job isn't Anthony Richardson's. It's not, you know, obviously Daniel Jones, but again, everything that's went down over the last couple years, especially last year, like how you saw the Colts operate with Anthony Richardson after he tapped out, after they put in Joe Flacco, they used a few different quarterbacks. It was open competition. It seemed like Daniel Jones won the job outright.
Delaney Walker
Do anyone know if Daniel Jones did the. Did the Colts take it, pick up his contract, or did they give him a new contract and when he.
Taylor Lewan
I think he cleared waivers.
Delaney Walker
He cleared waivers.
Will Compton
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I really don't.
Will Compton
They got him at a good price.
Delaney Walker
Okay, then that's cool. Because if he have the. If they took that contract over, he needs to start. He signed for one year, 14 million. One year, 14 million.
Will Compton
So they paid him some money. They paid him to come in and compete.
Taylor Lewan
What's that?
Clay Matthews
Do they have any money for future. I mean. I know.
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Clay Matthews
I mean, unless they just tank this next year and get, you know, top five pick, which could very well be.
Taylor Lewan
The case, you got a lot of quarterbacks in the option.
Delaney Walker
That could be the case.
Will Compton
Yeah, I'm trying to tank.
Taylor Lewan
Should we hit nfc?
Will Compton
We are getting a little, I will say, very excited about Camborn. The Tennessee Titans.
Taylor Lewan
Very excited.
Delaney Walker
We are very excited for the Titans.
Taylor Lewan
I think the X you need to hold the expectation there, win six, seven games. I think you need to be proud. As a Tennessee Titan fan, I want.
Will Compton
To see a lot of this, make.
Taylor Lewan
Sure the kid, he's got the attitude like he's in first one in, last one out mentality. Coaches got to make him get out of the building. Like he's got all the stuff. I just don't think he has the pieces right now. Yeah, I don't think his pieces right now.
Delaney Walker
Who do y' all have the winning? The AFC outright. Ravens.
Taylor Lewan
Ravens. The Ravens and the GM may or may not have given me a reason to back them whole bunch.
Delaney Walker
I just, man, they said we can.
Will Compton
Put them through the table if they win.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, we, we need to go to the parade.
Delaney Walker
I'm all Bills. If they, if they win, you can slam them through the table.
Clay Matthews
The Super Bowl.
Will Compton
Yeah, Super Bowl.
Taylor Lewan
We get to be at the. At the parade.
Delaney Walker
Oh, at the Super Bowl.
Taylor Lewan
So. Yeah. So did.
Will Compton
Did the parade the week after the Super Bowl.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I know.
Taylor Lewan
So Bean, essentially, he bribed us, Bribed me into. I'm picking the bus.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, yeah, that's. That's what's up.
Will Compton
I'll go Bills. I think it's up in the air, bro.
Taylor Lewan
It is. I mean, it's a. I mean, everybody. It's all. You never know what's gonna happen. Injuries happen. But like, parade.
Will Compton
Yeah. Right now, where I sit, reserve the right to change my mind all throughout the year. But right now I'm going Bills.
Delaney Walker
Who is the Bills most afraid of, though, right now? Who would you say if the Bills should be?
Taylor Lewan
Chiefs. Chiefs?
Delaney Walker
Broncos.
Will Compton
What?
Taylor Lewan
What?
Will Compton
Why the Broncos? I mean, the village in the Bills, the villain in their story is the Chief.
Delaney Walker
I know. I trust me. But I feel like the Chiefs ain't gonna be as good as they were.
Will Compton
No, I agree with you, but you're saying who should.
Clay Matthews
I thought you said Ravens. Are we.
Delaney Walker
Oh, I'm taking the Ravens.
Clay Matthews
Oh, you just.
Delaney Walker
I'm just. I'm just asking a question.
Taylor Lewan
You just threw another AFC west team. Like, what about the Broncos?
Will Compton
They said, what about the Raiders?
Taylor Lewan
I'm taking the Ravens, but, yeah, I got the Bills. Ravens, Ravens, Bills, Bills.
Will Compton
Yeah, that's where we're at.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Safe.
Taylor Lewan
Nfc. Go ahead, Will.
Will Compton
NFC South. I got the Bucs.
Taylor Lewan
Bucks. Bucs.
Clay Matthews
I think they're battling at about 9, 10 wins with the Falcons, but I think, you know, the Bucs pull it out.
Delaney Walker
Wait, you said with the Falcons?
Clay Matthews
With the Falcons. With Pennix. Yup.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think, I think you're right.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
I think Baker Mayfield, I love his story. I love his attitude.
Clay Matthews
Mike Evans.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, Mike Evans.
Will Compton
There are some question marks with Godwin and.
Delaney Walker
Well, he just signed 66 million dollar contract. So he coming back.
Will Compton
Okay.
Clay Matthews
Injury or what?
Will Compton
Yeah, they're talking about, like, injury. Yeah, yeah. The health of him right now. And Tristan.
Taylor Lewan
Tristan Wurfs. Yeah, Tristan Wurfs. They did it. I mean, free agency. They got Hassan Reddick who was like.
Delaney Walker
Did he sit out the entire time he set out?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, set out for the whole year, but was electric. They get rid of Shaq Barrett. Shaq's a little older, longer in the tooth, as you like to say. I think it's a good trade off. I just don't See the Falcons taking a big step. I think they care. The Panthers are going to be with. The Panthers are going to be. I think, you know, they might get a little bit better this year than the Saints. We still don't know who the starting quarterback's going to be. I know JP Hubby somewhere saying it's got to be a rattler. And Kellen Moore, new head coach. But like, it's the Bucs. It's the Bucs division to lose.
Clay Matthews
Yep.
Will Compton
Remind me he's a stud and I hate that I'm forgetting his name right now. Remind me of the running back. Oh, with the Bucks.
Delaney Walker
Oh, oh.
Will Compton
Bucky Irving.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Irving.
Will Compton
Tampa Bay can run the football team. You talk about Baker, Mayfield, Evans, Godwin, all those, all the weapons he has. They. Bucky Irving, they can run the football.
Taylor Lewan
Right.
Will Compton
I. I like the Bucks.
Taylor Lewan
Being their new oc. Like, you got to make sure that him and Baker mesh. He was obviously the offensive passing coordinator last year. He's just walked into a new role of calling the plays now. Hopefully they keep the thinking same thing going. And Mike Evans, buddy, he just Benjamin Button.
Clay Matthews
Guaranteed 11.
Will Compton
I like the Bucs championship for an NFC championship.
Taylor Lewan
Do you?
Will Compton
I like them competing. I don't know if I got them right now, but I'm saying I like.
Taylor Lewan
Them winning the division.
Will Compton
They are competing well, but I'm talking about making a run. I'm not talking like Bucks. You know, they get in, they're probably not going to go far.
Taylor Lewan
Right.
Will Compton
I'm talking about. I think they can be a team in the nfc.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. And a nail biter in the divisional game, possibly making it to the championship game.
Delaney Walker
I mean, they division is weak, so they should be fine.
Taylor Lewan
Let's get to the NFC North. Clay, this is your world.
Clay Matthews
Here's my world right here.
Taylor Lewan
Are you going to be a homer?
Clay Matthews
Homer all the way. Packers plus 230.
Delaney Walker
You wanted me to.
Clay Matthews
You wanted me to mix it up. The easy decision like you're getting on me for is the Lions. Right. But I'm worried about the Lions and losing Aaron, Glenn Johnson. Yeah. Going. Going to Chicago and then, you know, with Sam Darnold leaving And you got J.J. mcCarthy talking about this, not knowing what he's brought. So I think the packers get up early in the season. I'm not saying they're the best team by the end of the year, but I think it's gonna. I think that's gonna be the deepest division, the NFC north, the black and blue division. I got the packers and Lions making the playoff packers winning it a game. Maybe they're tied, but they got the half game lead. Whatever it is. I think Jordan love Josh Jacobs. The receivers kind of, you know, their, their availability. We talk about, you know, they're constantly hurt. Jordan love just three years.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
The first round.
Taylor Lewan
That's true.
Clay Matthews
I forgot about that.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, buddy, how could you forget?
Clay Matthews
I was, we were there.
Delaney Walker
You.
Taylor Lewan
You stole the show.
Clay Matthews
Thank you. But you, you know, run game. I think it's the packers year. I think it's, it's. They win the NFC North. I think the Lions just, they don't put it together. You hear some of this talk coming out of training camp, you know, some inconsistencies on offense. Not sure about the defense, but the Vikings, I'm not all in on them. I think the packers eat this one out.
Will Compton
You haven't even mentioned the Bears.
Clay Matthews
The Bears look good on their one drive. But I know, bro, it's preseason season. Like, I don't even care about. I watched Shador play the Eagles or whoever it was in week one.
Delaney Walker
I'm like, I'm done.
Will Compton
We're falling.
Clay Matthews
I'm done for the Browns. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But that's it. I haven't watched any preseason.
Taylor Lewan
It'll be interesting with Ben Johnson, the new.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, well, he looked up on him.
Taylor Lewan
People were saying, not a leader of men. It was, it was a weird shot at him.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
But then Caleb Williams, unique personality, easy to take the step. Because last year it's like, what are we doing?
Clay Matthews
He's got all the talent.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Too many question marks with Bears. Too many question marks with Minnesota for you to sit and like really plant a flag.
Clay Matthews
And the packers, you know, I know they were what, one in four, one in five divisional games last year, losing to the Bears, losing to the Vikings twice and the Lions twice. But I think they get over on them this year. They continue playing well with the AFC opponents. They have the other nfc, they also finished. Did they finish second or third in there in the NFC north, which means they are going to play that Tier 3 of the NFC right there, which allows them for an easier schedule. So I think just by. If you're playing the odds, I think they finished first.
Taylor Lewan
You, you can definitely sell me on all those points. And I know the Lions, they lost, lost a few guys. Frank Ragnow, Kevin Zeitler. The thing for me is it's culture, culture, culture. And it's like, you watch Netflix quarterback, you watch the quarterback. You watch the way they approach every single week. Dan Campbell, the way he is in Press conferences, the way you go to their training camps and you see that they are truly about bringing this brand up to what they need to be, which is super bowl champions. I, I've bought so much stock in them and I love the idea of. My God, I'm forgetting his name. But he went to Michigan too. Aiden Hutchinson.
Delaney Walker
Aiden.
Taylor Lewan
Was electric. He was playing a defensive player of the year mentality. He had the stat sheet for it. Gets the tib fib. Getting a sack sucks. You see the. He's just working in silence. Every once in a while you'll get on Twitter, you'll get on the burn. You'll see a little clippy of him just hit the corner catching.
Clay Matthews
Is he back? Oh, he doesn't want to say.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Piece of you is like, if this dude comes back and they have that type of rush. I think that's what they were missing last year to get over the hump.
Clay Matthews
Oh, I've seen some. The Internet speak some of these videos in one of his one on ones. He looks good.
Delaney Walker
No, I was just about to say.
Clay Matthews
That I was so hot because that's the type of injury, you know, and he's, he's about to get paid. You know, he's this guy and it's just a freak accident. He just leg whipped, you know, or he leg whip someone, breaks tib fib like you said. But now to see him come back, I'm just happy on a personal level for him that I hope he gets back to where he was at. He's showing it. He's ready to continue what he's doing and get paid for it.
Taylor Lewan
Good thing about a tib fib when you're young too. It's not like a ligament type of thing. You can just, hey, put a metal plate in that. We got iron man now. Like you kind of. As long as you can get over it mentally. A lot of times you go back to the same.
Clay Matthews
See I see that big black pad on his pasty legs like mine. It worries me. But then he dips under and I go, yeah, he's there.
Taylor Lewan
He's kind of got it. He's got the attitude and he's, he's a great leader too. Once he's out, you're not losing him from a stat standpoint. But it's like, like getting a rising tide to lift all boats. Like he brought that defense to a whole new level. So I like the Lions. I'm going to plant my flags, the Lions. But I would not be surprised with the Packers.
Delaney Walker
Hey, I'm Saying with the Lions, I mean they just still got too many threats on the outside. Amrah laporta, you got Jameson Williamson, two.
Will Compton
Headed monster in the back.
Delaney Walker
Come on. Jamar Gibbs, like great offensive line, great offensive line. It's just you did lose a couple on the off. You did.
Taylor Lewan
You got two great tackles. Graham Glasgow is one of the more underrated guards in the entire league. You got to fix that problem with Frank Ragnall. I know he dealt with some injuries early like, like last year a lot which probably led to him retiring a little bit early. You fix that Zeitler being gone. Like you got three core guys in there that are going to uplift that. I think they're going to hold the standard. Yeah, I like them a lot. I like them a lot.
Will Compton
I'm in line with Clay. I think the Lions make the playoffs. I think the packers edge them out. I think there's being in the locker room. I think you're in no better spot to where you have the roster. You have a good defense, you have the pieces on offense. You need Jordan Love to stay healthy. We know he's light skinned now. Them soft. Tish can jump up on him and he can be out for a game.
Clay Matthews
Well, he just had surgery on his left thumb. He tore, tore a ligament in it. So now he's getting light. You know, we're a couple weeks away from week one. Like, oh man, you need to start.
Delaney Walker
Fast and y' all back up. I mean your backup is okay, but who's that?
Clay Matthews
I don't even know who that is.
Delaney Walker
Malik Willis. Malik Willis.
Will Compton
They can win with them.
Delaney Walker
They can win with them and they.
Will Compton
Can run the football again. They, you know, you got Jordan Love, but they can run the football. They have good run defense. They return all of these pieces and when the focus in the building, the urgency can be tailored around winning your division because they stumbled in the division last year even though they still made the playoffs and everything else. But when you can bring the focus in the building to we have to win our division, I think it brings a sense of urgency with the talent you have on that roster. I think they edge out the Lions and that's why I like the packers in the coming out of the North.
Taylor Lewan
I like it. NFC west, interesting division. At the end of the day, I'm leaning towards the 49ers. You want to kind of look at the rams and Sean McVay. But then there's all these reports, stuff coming out about Stafford. He's got a back issue. He is older.
Will Compton
Do we know how bad it is though, or bad enough. He can just, he can just do it.
Taylor Lewan
I mean, he's tough as. He is tough as.
Will Compton
And you're talking about a Madden, Devonte Adams, Puka Nukua.
Taylor Lewan
I, I, I'm with you.
Will Compton
I'm Kyron Williams.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, just got paid.
Will Compton
They were nice last year. That young defense, that defensive line, they were all like, first, second year. First, second year guys. Yeah, they are animals, bro. They're going to be good. Rams are going to be tough.
Clay Matthews
They're made to win the Super Bowl. They're made to win the West. I just, I'm just a little worried and I think you talk about Salah coming back to the 49ers, obviously that's like sexy for the defense and whatnot. McCaffrey, you know, getting healthy again, it's, it's once again, it's one of those ones where it's hard to bet against them. If they can get back to their winning ways once again and they stay healthy, finishing third in their division, they're going to have an easier schedule. Let's hope Stafford comes back. But I see, I didn't pick them, but I got the Seahawks as Seahawks and Rams as playoff team.
Delaney Walker
That's what I'm talking about.
Clay Matthews
Great defense. Run the ball, don't turn it over. 10 wins last year. 10 and 7 last year. Same as the Texans. Same as a bunch of the other other teams. Geno Smith, whatever he did out there last year, I know he's not there anymore. But now you bring in Sam Darnold.
Delaney Walker
But you got Sam Darnold, who's the young buck?
Clay Matthews
They have. But yeah, they got Sam Darnold.
Will Compton
What was the name?
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, what's his name?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah.
Delaney Walker
And so, and Zach, how you say from ucla?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah. They do a great job.
Taylor Lewan
Hell yeah.
Clay Matthews
I'm just saying they run the ball, don't turn it over, play great defense. I could see they're getting in the playoffs.
Taylor Lewan
Great environment.
Clay Matthews
They could be playing with the 49ers.
Delaney Walker
And the Rams with the offensive coordinator, Kubernet. Kubak. Kubak, Kubak, Kubak.
Clay Matthews
Couple ends and there come silent.
Delaney Walker
They also just signed Cooper Cup.
Clay Matthews
I was with Coop in 2019 and.
Delaney Walker
You was doubting that bet. You was doubting that bet. I'm telling you, I still got the Niners.
Clay Matthews
I got Niners, but I got Rams, Seahawks making the playoffs. I think I just think, you know.
Will Compton
You know, give me all of them except the Cardinals.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, there you go. We're actually expanding the playoff this year and we're taking them all. Yeah, I got the Niners, dude. I know they lost a lot of guys. Yeah, they lost a lot of guys in free agency. Debo, Samuel Hargrave. They lost a lot of people on their defense. But you still got culture. Brock Bowers, Brock Bowers, Brock Purdy, CMC Fred Warner, Trent Williams, George Kittle. Like you have the nucleus of culture in your locker room. You know, everyone's getting older. The sense of urgency is there because of the failure of last year. This is the year that they have to do something. Because I don't know if there's another year you get to sit with that group again.
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Taylor Lewan
Say they have an opportunity to do something. They gotta stay healthy. They're not very deep, but if they can do those things and stay healthy, which is borderline impossible, I think they're contenders.
Delaney Walker
I'm actually, I'm excited to see them. I'm excited to see them play, man. I got to do a golf tournament with them and I was hanging with Matt Drew Jones, man, he was actually. And I, you know, I said some stuff about Matt Jones when he played for the Patriots, but after hanging out with that dude, he is, he's solid. I hope he get a shot to go out there and ball out and make some plays. Like just being truthful, called him a bum buster.
Taylor Lewan
I like him.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, he is real. He a real dude, bro. I fuck with him. He's a real dude. For real, for real.
Taylor Lewan
I feel you, you know, get off the nfc.
Will Compton
I didn't make my pick.
Taylor Lewan
Delete your pick.
Clay Matthews
I'm sorry.
Will Compton
I'm just going to go ahead and rock with the boys, San Francisco. And I'm just going to go ahead and say the insurance policy. Would not be surprised if the Rams and you low key. Kind of talked me into the Seahawks a little bit. This is going to be a fun division, too, because it's like devonte Adams. Look again. It's all health. Yeah, it's all health between the Rams and also the Niners because we did the same song and dance last year with the Niners. The window's closing. This is the time you do it with this group of guys. They have them back around this year. Last year they showed us they couldn't all stay on the field at the same time. I'm going to rock with them because we're tight in. We're tight together. I'm rocking with the Niners, but also to me, it's going to be the Rams or the Niners. If Stafford's healthy, I think they have a hell of a squad. I think that young defense is going to be nasty. Stafford is a dog he's tough as shit. He's got Devonte Adams, he's got Puka Nukua, Kyron Williams. McVeigh is a brainiac. You also got the same thing with Shanahan. I'll go ahead and give the nod to the Niners, but they're right there. It's 1A, 1B for me.
Taylor Lewan
That clip of Sean McVay putting up Devonte Adams in front of the team, showing his routes, and he's the only guy that, like, leaves the packers, kind of goes to the Raiders, gets a little more quiet, goes to the jets, gets a little more quiet. But everyone's still, like, still a top five wide receiver.
Delaney Walker
I mean, his route, him, he still can run routes. I mean, you see it on film. He's just not getting the ball thrown to him. But he clearly open.
Taylor Lewan
Usually wide receivers, when they get quiet, statistically, everyone's kind of like, ah, move on. Yeah, with devonte Adams, everyone's like, no, no, no, he's still him.
Will Compton
I'm going Rams. I'm going Rams.
Delaney Walker
Did you see the meme, though?
Taylor Lewan
I didn't mean to do that, George. I'm sorry.
Delaney Walker
They had a meme of him, like, you know, have you ever been to, like, a dryer, cleaners, Dry and cleaner shop, and how they come out on the rack, like to get your clothes. They had Stafford coming out on the rack, getting ready to play in the game. Like, this is the first season opener. You see him coming out on the rack, drop his ass on the field.
Taylor Lewan
Cloudy. Hopefully his back's all right.
Delaney Walker
Nah. Yeah, he should be all right. Give him some fucking NFC East.
Taylor Lewan
NFC's good, Willy. Your division, your world.
Will Compton
I think it's the Eagles. I think it's the Eagles. Until, like, if the Commanders are gonna compete, the Commanders are going to compete in the East. They have to get better on defense. They're the only, you know, you look at, you know, 10, 10 of the best, like nine of the top 10 run defenses, all those teams made the playoffs. The only alien, the only outlier of a bottom run defense was Washington. That made the playoffs and they made an exciting run. But I think if they're going to push to win that division, because I think they got the ability on offense. I think Jay Daniels is going to have a hell of a year potentially being MVP talks early in the year and carrying it all the way through, I think he's that much of a stud. But if they're going to close the gap and being the guys in the east, it's going to be on defense. I know they've made it a focus on run defense, the mentality on defense. I know they let Jonathan Allen go. They got some different guys on the defensive line, but that's where, that's where Washington can gain ground. But I do have the Eagles. To me, it's like as long as that team's put together, they have, have aliens everywhere. And I don't see him slowing down unless something happens. And it would start at the quarterback position. Let something happens with Jalen hurts and there's moments where he misses receivers and there's a little drama that starts to happen. Other than that, I don't see the Eagles slowing down.
Delaney Walker
I mean they do do some added on defense. They added Von Miller, so hopefully he can.
Will Compton
Right.
Taylor Lewan
But this is Von Miller 20, 25. He had six sacks last year in 12 games. Like he, I think like, he's still a guy.
Delaney Walker
You have to look, you still gotta.
Taylor Lewan
Watch out for like.
Will Compton
But again, we're talking 15, 27. We're talking in the past game, like if, if Washington's going to get better, it has to be the run defense.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, yeah.
Will Compton
And Von's not a guy you're bringing in.
Delaney Walker
No, no. Hell no.
Taylor Lewan
The commander strike me as like a, in a, in a very unique way. Like the way the Bengals draft Joe Burrow and the next year, like you got to get a tackle, you got to do this. Like we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna double down on just getting more weapons. And then they end up going to the super bowl that year. The thing that takes me away from the Eagles is just history. Like the last time NFC east won the back to back titles. Yeah. Was 2004. Yeah. And so every year it's been somebody else. It's always just kind of switched. Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, and also it's just been a revolving door of who the champion is going to be. I love the addition of Larry Tunsil. I love the addition of Debo Samuel. I think Jayn Daniels. Yeah, it's him. I think because of history, I think the Eagles are absolute juggernauts. They're going to make the playoffs. I think having fun, having a good time, seeing how exciting they could be making it to the NFC championship last year. I'm going to go with the Commanders. It's a fun division to watch.
Will Compton
Fun.
Delaney Walker
But you know, if you look at the talks and what people saying, you know, second year quarterbacks usually coming in, they have a downspout because people start to figure them out, learn a Statistics know what they like to do. I'm scared that he, he has a drop off this year. That's the only. Daniels have a drop off. That's the only part I'm scared.
Clay Matthews
That's. That's what I'm thinking. I'm saying it's, it's. Philadelphia is, you know, obviously Washington last year, like they, they made the playoffs in that incredible run. But ultimately, I think Jayden Daniels takes a step back and that doesn't mean he's not exciting. He showed in this preseason game. You know, he had some scramble for a touchdown. Like he's going to make electric plays. I just don't know if, like, if that was an anomaly last year. But like you said, now we figure out how to guard him, how to contain him, make him pass, whatever it may be. I think it's.
Will Compton
But then he can throw the rock.
Delaney Walker
He can throw.
Will Compton
But there's a comparable in the league. It's Lamar Jackson. I mean, Jayden Daniels had, you know, all those past yards. He had over 800 rushing yards. Like he can sling the rock.
Delaney Walker
He also got hurt, too. He also got hurt. He also got hurt running the ball. And they had a Marcus Mariota that could come in and almost simulate the same thing he was doing. But do they have that background?
Taylor Lewan
Marcus dominated at that point.
Delaney Walker
Dominated. That's what I'm saying. So he will get hurt because like you said, he does like to run the ball. He likes to take chances. He put the team on his back and his catastrophical plays was 16%. That's really high. Catastrophical, however you say it was very.
Taylor Lewan
Keep that in the back.
Clay Matthews
Spanish baby.
Taylor Lewan
Catastrophical.
Delaney Walker
It was high. It was 16% because he threw a lot of interceptions or took a lot of sacks. I mean, he didn't have a lot of intercepts. He had four. But he took a lot of sacks when he should have threw the ball away. These are things he need to learn. Learn from or it's gonna hurt him in the long run.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, yeah.
Will Compton
Having the awareness I got him in the playoffs.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Will Compton
I just think it's a.
Taylor Lewan
The talent.
Will Compton
I'm with you how deep the Eagles are on defense, on offense. They got everything.
Delaney Walker
Everything.
Taylor Lewan
When we went to their camp, every, every position group, you looked at like, oh, I know he was on the team.
Delaney Walker
I don't know. This guy's on the team. He don't even play because there's so many good football over there.
Taylor Lewan
They really, they really have a stack squad. They really have a stack squad out there.
Will Compton
Bunch of crazy.
Taylor Lewan
I Want to get excited about the commanders. I want to same. So I'm kind of just talking myself into the. Into them over the Eagles, but. And also 2004. Last time anybody went back to back it was the Eagles.
Delaney Walker
But.
Taylor Lewan
So who we have running the nfc?
Clay Matthews
I got the Eagles.
Delaney Walker
Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, Eagles.
Will Compton
I don't know, man.
Taylor Lewan
All right, give me the Lions. For the same reasons I said, culture, culture, culture. Gotta have it.
Will Compton
Will I like the packers or the Rams?
Clay Matthews
So you switched back to the. To the Rams right after you picked the.
Will Compton
I don't even know who I gave that what I gave the team. Just sitting here talking ball with all y'.
Delaney Walker
All.
Taylor Lewan
These guys are probably just like, Will's changed five.
Will Compton
Hey, who did I have as my NFC winner?
Taylor Lewan
You had the Lions as the NFC winner.
Delaney Walker
What he just say?
Clay Matthews
He get talked into it?
Will Compton
I had the Rams or I had the Lions. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
Clay Matthews
Packers like it. Go pack, go. Go pack.
Taylor Lewan
Go pack, go.
Will Compton
Who you take?
Clay Matthews
I got the Eagles. I got the Eagles.
Taylor Lewan
MVP brought to you by True Classic. True Classic MVPs. My MVP, Josh Allen. See him in. See him practice. I picked them to win the AFC to win their division. And spoiler alert, I'm picking them to win the Super Bowl. Your boy's gonna be at the parade. I'm be diving through tables, pouring mustard on myself. It's all even the back of the hard work of Josh Allen. Go to practice, see him miss two passes. He goes and shakes will and ice hands like an absolute jackass. And you can just tell he's relaxed. He's cool, calm and confident. He's doubling down on the MVP this year.
Delaney Walker
I'm taking Jalen Hurts to win NFL mvp. I think they got the best team in football, and it don't just take one player. It takes a team for a player to get an mvp. And that's what's gonna happen with the Eagles, baby.
Will Compton
My mvp, Joe Burrow.
Clay Matthews
Joe Burrow. Just. That's it.
Will Compton
Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow.
Clay Matthews
I got Lamar Jackson. I think, you know, you look at last year, what he's. He should have won it last year. He should have. Boulder fatigue. Give it to Josh Allen. I don't see him slowing down at all, especially with Derrick Henry there.
Taylor Lewan
Also Joe Brady, the OC for the Bills. Like, we get to. We get to camp, and he's like, I should have wore my boys hat. Like, he's. He's like ingrained in the culture of busting with the boys, but instead of talking ball to us. He's like, you gotta get Josh in a dick joke. No one gets him. You gotta get him. So you got an OC that's bought in to what Josh Allen is bought.
Will Compton
Into very rare for and then went back to back.
Delaney Walker
He's spinning y'.
Taylor Lewan
All.
Delaney Walker
He's spinning it on y' all motherfuckers.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, he. Well, he got.
Delaney Walker
He didn't get y'.
Will Compton
All. This is what he got. His mind says will super bowl pick was the Lions. But.
Clay Matthews
I got the Ravens. I got Lamar winning the mvp. I got him winning the super bowl mvp, and I got the Baltimore Ravens.
Delaney Walker
I'm following suit with Clay.
Clay Matthews
Super bowl whatever. Winner. What super bowl? Are we on?
Delaney Walker
40S?
Taylor Lewan
No.
Delaney Walker
50? 53, 4.
Clay Matthews
What is that? L. Something like that. Liv live. No, live was last year. Right?
Taylor Lewan
Liv was last year.
Clay Matthews
So this has to be lv.
Delaney Walker
Damn.
Taylor Lewan
I kind of just agree with you, too.
Clay Matthews
That's 59. Take away from the X. That was 59.
Delaney Walker
Alex is 60. It's 60.
Clay Matthews
Super Bowl LX.
Delaney Walker
It could be. It's the 100.
Will Compton
Yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Super Bowl 50.
Delaney Walker
It's 60. It's the 160.
Will Compton
Give me the Bills.
Clay Matthews
Wow.
Taylor Lewan
Give me the Bills.
Delaney Walker
Oh, God.
Taylor Lewan
Bills over Lions.
Clay Matthews
Ravens over Eagles.
Delaney Walker
Ravens, man.
Will Compton
Bills over Packers.
Delaney Walker
Ravens over Eagles. That's exactly.
Clay Matthews
I got Ravens over Texas, Dolphins.
Taylor Lewan
He went rogue on all of us.
Will Compton
And I like the Ravens pick.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, Ravens are solid.
Will Compton
None of us did this game.
Delaney Walker
No one said the Chiefs because you know the Chiefs. I mean, don't say that.
Taylor Lewan
This is the perfect year for Chiefs to go on rampage mode after what happened.
Delaney Walker
I know. Last year.
Taylor Lewan
Perfect year for them to go nuts.
Will Compton
They ain't got it.
Delaney Walker
I don't think they got it.
Clay Matthews
Running out of steam.
Taylor Lewan
You believe that?
Clay Matthews
All those expectations, right?
Taylor Lewan
But we're going to be sitting here a year from now and be like, the Chiefs earn this reboot again a year from now.
Delaney Walker
I mean, it's gonna shit on all our bets if that happens.
Taylor Lewan
They're here again. They did it again.
Delaney Walker
That's gonna. That's gonna really. I don't think it's gonna happen this year.
Clay Matthews
I was. Hey, I was hoping to hit my futures player milestone clump. I don't even care what you gotta say. Hey, we gotta a super cool.
Delaney Walker
All right.
Clay Matthews
Hey, hey. Derrick Henry. 10 plus rushing touchdowns. Minus 600. Conservative. Yes. You could go for 12 plus at minus 270, but I'm gonna go at 10 plus. Last time, Derrick Henry didn't hit 10 plus rushing touchdowns. 20, 17 year makes you think. Who was blocking for him that year? You feel me?
Taylor Lewan
Who was blocking for him that year? Us.
Clay Matthews
And what happened? I didn't even know that. That's my bad boy.
Will Compton
No, that's minus 600 is crazy. I thought we were having a little frustrated.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, that.
Will Compton
Minus.
Clay Matthews
All right, go plus.
Delaney Walker
All right.
Will Compton
I went Aaron Rodgers. 4,000 plus. Plus 370.
Delaney Walker
I see where you at. I see where you at. Okay. I see where you at. I didn't know we was doing it like that.
Clay Matthews
That though, adding four of them together.
Delaney Walker
Going dumb.
Will Compton
Yeah, I was trying to go dumb.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. He go dumb.
Clay Matthews
I'm trying to win.
Taylor Lewan
A lot of times you just go parlays and you put together and you.
Delaney Walker
Put it, and it adds that you don't have.
Will Compton
I'm with you.
Taylor Lewan
I love it. DK Metcalf, Aaron Rod. Nobody talking about him. I love it. I'm with it. 4000.
Delaney Walker
I got Jamar Gibbs.
Clay Matthews
Jamar Gibbs.
Delaney Walker
What?
Clay Matthews
Rushing yards.
Delaney Walker
Rushing yard. Thousand plus rushing yards. Minus 220.
Clay Matthews
What'd he do last year?
Delaney Walker
He was just shy of that. 922 or something like that.
Clay Matthews
Get over the hump this year.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. I got Ceedee Lamb. Over a thousand. A thousand yards. You get George Pickens. People thought he was a distraction. The Steelers. Listen, you want to live in the world of distractions, go to the Cowboys. You got him and Ceedee sitting there. Dak Prescott, they get themselves in a lot of situations where they're behind a little bit. Dak, say what you want about him, throws for a billion yards every single year. CD Is always his. Go to target. You get CE Lam. A thousand yards. He's an absolute stud. I got him.
Delaney Walker
He never had a thousand yards yet.
Taylor Lewan
CD no, no, no. He's at over a thousand. I'm saying he's a stud. Oh, he's gonna knock that apart. He's minus 220 in that.
Delaney Walker
Oh, yeah.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. That's a minus 220.
Will Compton
Aaron Rodgers was three yards away from 3, 900 yards last year, so.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Hey. And that was. Yeah. Now he's got some.
Delaney Walker
I don't know. Look, I don't. I don't know, though, with them Stillers, though.
Clay Matthews
I want to go 12.
Will Compton
I'm telling you.
Clay Matthews
I want to go 12 plus. You know. What was that?
Taylor Lewan
I'm sorry. I was trying to get Delaney to go next when you were talking. I was talking about 2017.
Clay Matthews
2017 was the last time Derek Henry did not score 10 touchdowns.
Taylor Lewan
He was. He was splitting reps with Dion no, that was 2016. Next year.
Delaney Walker
Lewis.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah, Dion Lewis.
Will Compton
He actually was 2018.
Delaney Walker
No, it wasn't. No.
Taylor Lewan
2018.
Clay Matthews
He went off 2017. I look because I go, what? He must have got 17 starter was Demarco Murray. Like when you look at the official. Yeah, it was DeMarco Murray. I'm not sure you know how.
Taylor Lewan
That's when DeMarco. I think he got hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Compton
Because.
Delaney Walker
But Dion Lewis would come in on goal line.
Taylor Lewan
That's when Eddie George came out and was like, Derrick Henry needs to stop.
Will Compton
Acting like that's 2018.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Like he's. Because he don't want to do goal line.
Taylor Lewan
That was going into 2018.
Delaney Walker
He wouldn't go on. He went like. He'll run goal line straight into people backs. So then they'll put short one Deion Lewis. Deion Lewis saying. And he would score the touchdowns in the goal line.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Once Derek became. Figured out how to be Derek in the league. It's over.
Delaney Walker
It was over with.
Taylor Lewan
Yeah. Love to sit here and take a bunch of credit for that, but.
Delaney Walker
So those. Those four legs together. Derek Henry, 12 plus touchdowns. Jameer Gibbs, 1,000 yards. CD Lamb, 1,000 yards. Aaron Rodgers, 4,000 yards. Plus 1024. I mean that. That 1024.
Taylor Lewan
Exactly where you want to be.
Delaney Walker
That's where you want to be.
Taylor Lewan
Exactly where you want to be.
Delaney Walker
That is fucking crazy.
Taylor Lewan
Plus what?
Clay Matthews
Plus 10, 24. $10 to win $102.
Will Compton
There you go.
Taylor Lewan
Put a thousand responsibly.
Clay Matthews
Over a thousand to win 10 responsibly.
Taylor Lewan
There's no guarantees of gambling. However, you gotta feel good about this.
Clay Matthews
Closest thing to it.
Taylor Lewan
You gotta sit down, you gotta look at your odds. Be like a lot of opportunity here. Why not take advantage, Clay? Why not? What are you guys playing?
Will Compton
No, we just talk. We go big upset because.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, no, me and him just having our.
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With Clay Matthews, Delanie Walker, Will Compton & Taylor Lewan
Episode Date: August 21, 2025
The Boys—Taylor Lewan, Will Compton, and Delanie Walker—welcome former Packers star Clay Matthews as a full-time addition for their 2025 NFL season predictions. In this lively, locker-room style roundtable, the crew dives deep into division-by-division forecasts, shares personal team stories and rivalry banter, and makes bold picks for MVP and Super Bowl champion. The tone is rowdy and fun, blending sharp NFL insights with trash talk and player experiences.
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This episode is a snapshot of friends talking ball at the highest level—equal parts astute NFL analysis and hilarious player trash talk. The addition of Clay Matthews adds both gravitas and playful energy, and the hosts’ own NFL experience grounds the group’s sometimes wild speculation. If you love real locker room debate, deep-dive division previews, and bold, passionate NFL futures, this episode delivers.
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