Russell Wilson On Sean Payton Fallout, Pete Carroll Relationship & His Hall of Fame Career | Bussin'

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys – Episode 370:

Russell Wilson On Sean Payton Fallout, Pete Carroll Relationship & His Hall of Fame Career
Date: March 3, 2026
Guests: Russell Wilson
Hosts: Will Compton, Matt Rogers (with co-host Clay Matthews)

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Episode Overview

This episode features a special interview with NFL quarterback Russell Wilson, examining his eventful career—including recent challenges with the Denver Broncos and his relationship with head coach Sean Payton—as well as reflections on legacy, adversity, and transitions both in and out of football. The Boys set the scene with their trademark banter, dig into NFL headlines, relive combine memories, and ultimately deliver an honest, insightful conversation with Wilson as he looks back and ahead in his storied career.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Russell Wilson Interview (Starts ~[110:20])

Career & Drive

• Russell Wilson's Unique NFL Stat Line: Only QB with 40,000 passing and 5,000 rushing yards; 3 straight years of 100+ passer rating and 30+ TDs ([111:20])
• Mindset: Describes career as a "14-round heavyweight fight," winning 11 rounds and losing the last few, but determined to “win rounds 15 and 16” ([115:14])
• Quote:

  "I never want to die empty. If I die, I want to die having used everything I have for everyone." – Russell Wilson ([113:49])

Legacy & Longevity

• Wants to play until at least age 40, if his passion and body allow.

  "I've always had the vision of getting to 40 at least. It's about the journey, being obsessed with the process—not just the results." ([115:53])

• Draws inspiration from late-career wins by John Elway, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady ([116:24])

Adversity and Media

• On Sean Payton and Broncos Fallout: Candid about public criticism:

  “Sometimes you get fatigued of people talking about you... especially when I’m not even on your own team anymore. For me, there’s a point where you have to stop being quiet.” ([120:27])

• Learning From Turbulence:

  “When you’re up here for so long, you don’t always realize all the nuances... Highs and lows, but you just keep climbing.” ([122:19], [124:33])

• Taking the high road: Focuses on loving teammates, commitment to the game, and not being defined by others’ perspectives ([122:58], [125:40])

The Business of Football

• On Denver Benchings and Contract Guarantees:

  Wilson explains team tried to get him to waive injury guarantees to avoid paying if he got hurt—which he refused, on principle for all NFL players ([130:42]) “I’m not going to set a bad precedent for NFL players.”

• Challenge of Leading While Uncertain: He had no idea if he’d be benched week to week, still tried to lead “like himself,” e.g. game-winning TD against Buffalo ([132:10])
• Supporting Others:

  “I don’t have any jealousy in my heart. That’s not how I function. Go shine, bro.” ([133:57])

Team Room Dynamics

• On New Environments: Wilson discusses different cultures—Seattle, Broncos, Steelers, and a brief move to New York—and how he's always focused on relationships and work ethic ([122:59], [136:10])
• QB Room in New York:

  “Personalities are amazing… energy always high, but the work ethic’s top notch every day.” ([136:10])

On Media Candor and Perception

• New York Media vs. Previous Teams:

  “I’m used to a lot of noise, positive or negative. I have a rule: I don't watch ESPN during the season.” ([137:17], [137:56])

• Emphasis on Compartmentalization: Being ‘neutral’ is key—don’t get too high or too low ([138:12])
• The "Let's Ride" and Subway Ad Meme: Explains he wasn’t even on social media at the time, so he missed the viral wave until after the season ([161:44])

Relationship with Pete Carroll

• Shared Energy and Unity:

  “Head coach and QB have to be on the same page… the relationship is everything.” ([144:19])

• Story: Pete Carroll’s annual “visualization on the piano” for the team—having courage as you get higher up ([142:48])

Super Bowl Perspective

• On Not Returning to the Big Game:

  “We always think we’ll be back, but it takes relentless hard work. Some greats never get there.” ([145:12])

• Roots Optimism in Elway, Peyton late-career wins as inspiration for a possible comeback. ([146:21])

Gratitude and Vulnerability

• Most Candid Moment:

  “If I could do anything, I’d sit with my dad again.” ([164:02]) — both heartfelt and rare from Wilson

• Will’s reaction: Ties in his own loss of his mother and the emotional weight these answers carry for athletes ([164:33])

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2. NFL Locker Room & Combine Memories ([02:29]–[54:08])

• Clay Matthews joins the Boys, reminiscing about grilling, moving, and spring break kid activities before digging into football bonds.
• NFL Combine Memories: Matthews and Will debate their testing numbers—leading to a live call with Nebraska’s strength coach about Will’s disputed 4.54 forty time ([17:12]–[20:41]).
• “The bench press is so overrated” – Matthews ([22:20]), noting explosiveness and game film matter more.
• Discussion of linebacker prospects, rivalry stories, and going undrafted. Will shares free agency moments and stories of “playing with house money.” ([27:00]–[36:09])
• Locker room culture: Clay:

  “There’s always competition—even with your closest friends. That’s how you get better.” ([23:35])

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3. Modern NFL Money, NIL, and Changing Game ([68:07]–[74:08])

• Salary Cap Inflation: Players reflect on exploding salary cap and the ‘minimum’ now being $840K ([68:12]–[68:26])
• On OBJ’s viral comment that “$150 million isn’t enough to last”:

  “That’s Cap… It’s hard to run through that.” – Will Compton / Clay Matthews ([69:08])

• NIL Era: Debating the impact of NIL and transfer freedom on athlete resilience, identity, and motivation.

  “It’s tough to raise kids with means… How do you keep them hungry?” – Clay Matthews ([74:29])

• Reflection on being a walk-on/free agent forming character.

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4. Life After the NFL & Podcasting Journey ([146:32]–[151:39])

• Russell Wilson flips the script:

  “What’s the journey been like for you guys transitioning from football to this?” ([146:32])

• Will Compton: Jumping into podcasting due to fear of the unknown after football; importance of leveraging curiosity and brand during your playing career ([147:35])
• Taylor Lewan: The fear of peer perception—being one of the first active players to start this kind of media, Vrabel’s reaction, and needing to earn trust ([151:15])
• Key Advice from Will:

  “Jump when you can afford to drown.”
  “Don’t wait—do it while you’re playing, when you have clout.” ([149:37])

• Russell’s Take:

  “NFL means Not For Long… They tell you, ‘focus only on football.’ But if you don’t build, you’re behind.” ([149:41])

• All agree: Media, video games, business—athletes are humans with outside interests, and the game moves on when you’re done.

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5. Locker Room & Life Banter, Notable Moments

• Best Audible/Play Calls: Will’s example of using “Folsom” as a screen indicator after watching TV copy ([89:49])
• Grilling & Garage Projects: Extended, lighthearted banter about grilling, tool sets, and DIY garage hacks, with Clay coaching Will on “being a man’s man” ([08:07], [49:36])
• Stadium Pulse: Times off the field when ex-players get those “game day” nerves—raising kids, grilling for friends ([82:47])
• AI in Youth Sports: Laugh about parents using AI to fake highlight tapes for recruiting ([76:32])
• Toughest Tackles: Marshawn Lynch and Browns’ RBs are cited as hardest to bring down ([55:16])
• Would Will make a UFL roster now?

  “All I need is three weeks.” ([96:31])

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6. Memorable Quotes & Unfiltered Personality

• Russell Wilson:

  “The greater your great, the more they’re going to hate.” ([124:33])
  “If you really love it, if it’s unconditional, it can’t be taken. And nobody can take my love for the game.” ([135:05])
  “I’ll bet on myself every day because of my work ethic and mentality. You can’t make me waver.” ([162:17])

• Will Compton:

  "Jump when you can afford to drown...don't wait until after the game ends." ([149:37])

• Clay Matthews:

  “It’s tough. I don’t know. It is tough being a parent.” ([74:37]) “Bench press is so overrated—unless you’re a lineman, too many reps just means you’re a stiff.” ([22:20])

• On life after football:

  “The logo wants you to sacrifice for it, but the moment you’re done, it’s not laying with you at night or holding your hand.” – Will Compton ([149:54])

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Notable & Emotional Moments

• Russell’s Candidness on Sean Payton & Media:

  “I got the same amount of rings as you got, meaning Sean [Payton]… So if you want to take shots, just don’t disrespect me.” ([121:03])

• Emotional Peak:

  “If I could do anything, I’d sit with my dad again.” – Russell Wilson ([164:04])
  Will shares a connection about recently losing his mom—both showing rare vulnerability.

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Key Timestamps

• Russell Wilson Interview Begins: [110:20]
• Wins/Losses as a “Heavyweight Fight” Bar: [115:14]
• Fallout with Sean Payton & Broncos’ Business Side: [120:27], [130:42]
• On His “Office” & Narrative Control: [122:19]
• Relationships, Teammates, Locker Room: [122:58], [135:33]
• Candid Reflection on “Let’s Ride” Social Media: [161:44]
• Legacy, Love of the Game, Philosophy: [125:40], [135:05]
• Pete Carroll “Stand On The Piano” Story: [142:48]
• Super Bowl Reflection: [145:12]
• Advice/Transition to Podcasting & Life After Ball: [146:32]–[151:39]
• Most Emotional Moment (Dad): [164:02]

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Tone & Style

Bussin’ with the Boys brings a casual, locker room feel—there’s relentless ball-busting, playful rivalry, and extended riffing on food, houses, locker-room comedy, and “man skills.” But the tone quickly shifts to sincere and vulnerable as Russell Wilson opens up, especially about adversity, public perception, legacy, and love for the game. The Boys mix humor with honest self-reflection, making for a genuinely human conversation well beyond the box score.

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Final Thoughts

This episode stands out as an exceptionally candid and wide-ranging conversation:
Russell Wilson addresses adversity, reputation battles, and leadership in ways rarely seen from NFL QBs. The Boys pull back the curtain on the NFL’s business side, mental battles, and the challenge of transitioning to life and new ventures after football. The emotional core—Wilson’s vulnerability talking about his late father, and the hosts opening up about their own family losses—offers listeners a powerful reminder of the humanity of elite athletes.

Whether you’re a die-hard NFL fan, curious about athlete psychology, or just love great banter, this episode delivers insights, entertainment, and inspiration in equal measure.

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Transcript

[Will Compton]

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[Russell Wilson]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Russell Wilson]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Russell Wilson]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Russell Wilson]

And finally, what if your wifi was like the smartest wifi?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, it's.

[Matt Rogers]

That is so smart.

[Russell Wilson]

It makes everything work better together. Bottom line, Xfinity is smart and reliable. You deserve the peace of mind of having WI fi that's got your back. Xfinity. Imagine that.

[Will Compton]

All right, we're good.

[Russell Wilson]

Be like busing with the boys,

[Matt Rogers]

hanging

[Russell Wilson]

with the fe

[Clay Matthews]

Betting on a game

[Russell Wilson]

no woman's gonna tell us what to do. And I've been over here

[Clay Matthews]

just drinking

[Russell Wilson]

beer and making that noise, baby. I'm hanging with the fellas, busing with the boys, bro.

[Will Compton]

Welcome to another episode of Bustin with the Boys. This is episode 370. If you are listening to me right now, whether it's on audio, whether you're watching my face, and you love camaraderie, you love hanging with the fellas. You love hanging with the ladies. We love the ladies. All. Everybody on the bus. We love the ladies. You love some good jokes, some banter, talking headlines, NFL. We're going to be talking NFL. NFL Combine. The world series of baseball classics is this weekend. We have a very special interview with Russell Wilson. He joins us on the bus, but we love bringing the locker room to life through content, through conversations, through all of that. Today is also a very special day. Outside of the Russell Wilson interview, we have on a different co host, Taylor Lawan. Our boy is up in the great white North. He's north of the wall right now, so he is on vacation, sitting in his seat. You know him. You love him. You know his Green Bay Packer lore, You know his USC zest. Everybody give it up for Clay Matthews.

[Clay Matthews]

Thanks, boys.

[Will Compton]

Hey.

[Clay Matthews]

Feels right.

[Will Compton]

Feels right, doesn't it? You like the seat?

[Clay Matthews]

Feels good. I'm not in the guest seat. I've moved up a little bit. I appreciate it, appreciate the invite. But I knew when you reached out late two nights ago, you needed one thing. You needed me, and that's it. These boys, Taylor and Will, do not reach out to me unless they're angry.

[Will Compton]

Don't bullshit.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, dude, we don't have a gu. You want. Yeah, and I always come through.

[Will Compton]

When do I hear from you? When you need me?

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, no, you just got.

[Will Compton]

You just got done moving. Hey, what? What? Who did you use? Do you get a discount?

[Clay Matthews]

I know. I didn't ask about this. I didn't ask about.

[Will Compton]

You think if I name drop Willie C. Like. Okay, relax, bro. We're not that.

[Clay Matthews]

No, I'm not. Yet some of my memorabilia is going to be missing. And I'll know why. Yeah, because of who I hired. They'll do a great job.

[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

Renown. Let me bustle with the boys.

[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

I do.

[Will Compton]

You love the fight game.

[Clay Matthews]

I do.

[Will Compton]

You love the fight game so much. You, You, You're. You watch it every weekend. It doesn't have to be a main event or a pay per view.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I, I was a little bit like when Theo was known as the guy who watches the early prelims.

[Will Compton]

I'm like, buddy, this should be me.

[Clay Matthews]

I've been doing this since 19.

[Will Compton]

And you do it for real. Like, this isn't. There's no, there's no theatrical element or, like, no expectation. When Steel gets seen on once, does he have to be in? And every time, like, you're like, no, this is. I know.

[Clay Matthews]

I texted you. I said, hey, if you need some sport. Ufc, Mexico's on tonight. Moreno versus Kavanaugh.

[Will Compton]

You did?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you did.

[Will Compton]

But I've, I've dropped a couple parlays when I blindly ride with.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, I don't. Yeah, well, hey, that, that. You saw the balance, it's at zero right now. We'll wait until next. Next football season.

[Will Compton]

But you, you, you like to, you like to bet during the fight?

[Clay Matthews]

I do. I'm a. I'm alive, live better.

[Will Compton]

You're alive better. What you can do on FanDuel. Do you have thoughts on Holloway? Oliveira?

[Clay Matthews]

I'm giving it much thought, but I think it's gonna be a great fight. I think, man, Holloway is just look remarkable since he's moved up weight classes. I think I, I would like to see Holloway on the ground with Oliveira. I want to see them two roll just because Oliveira is an absolute stud, you know, with his jiu jitsu. But I know they get on the

[Will Compton]

ground, it's going to be Oliveira, right?

[Clay Matthews]

Well, I mean, you would say, yes. He's, he's got the, you know, he's, he's, he's dominant. Probably the most submissions, you know something. Yeah, he's got it. But like, Holloway, like, they want to see him trading bang. And that's what Oliveira has said. He's like, I'm stand with him. I'm get hurt, but I'm gonna keep coming.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Didn't Work with him when he fought Ilia, but we'll see.

[Will Compton]

Should be a good fight, jp. You got it. You got a dog in the fight on this one?

[JP]

Not really. I think I. I align with Clay. I also. I mean, Charles, he's still. He's, like, older in the weight class, but he's just been in the UFC for so long, so it feels like he's older than he actually is.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[JP]

And I kind of wonder when he's going to be done. I know he loves the game, but I would love to see if he went out on a win over Max Holloway and then left the gloves, because he's not really going to get a title again.

[Clay Matthews]

I'd have to. I'd have to look at the. The class he's fighting in, because I know that. What is he. Was he 170?

[JP]

He's lightweight. 155.

[Will Compton]

You're supposed to be the UFC guy right now.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, the weight classes are all over the place, brother. What's flyweight, welterweight, middleweight? I get you light heavyweight and heavyweight, but, yeah, it's. It's tough to keep up with those.

[Will Compton]

All right, so Oliveira.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Or give me Holloway. I'm taking.

[JP]

Give me Oliveira.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

Holloway by ko.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[JP]

Oliveira by submission.

[Clay Matthews]

The black.

[Will Compton]

I'm just doing.

[Clay Matthews]

You're giving.

[Will Compton]

You're giving game to the Moneyline fans out there. The money line, Matthew. Fans.

[Clay Matthews]

But, hey, maybe wait till the. Wait till, you know, that first round's underway so we can see how it goes.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

You'd hate for him to get him on the ground. You know those odds. Start shifting live. Live odds.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Another question for you. Let's get immersive on some Clay. Matthews, since you're co hosting busting with the boys today, what you been up to since the locker room, man? Man, I just.

[Clay Matthews]

You know, that ice storm we had was real. Been doing a lot of cleanup.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Got two chainsaws. Chainsaws? Shout out Steel. They want to hook me up with another one. No free shoutouts unless you give me another one. But, yeah, I've been doing a lot of cleanup. We're also moving as we talked. Homes we bought our home and when we moved out here five years ago, pretty much sight unseen. That's how the market was in 2021.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

All cash offer. Way over asking price. We got in beautiful neighborhood love kind of where we're at out in the middle of it. Takes like 25 minutes to get to the 65s, but we've, you know, finally found a home purchased It. My wife's been renovating it for over a year now, so we're ready to move in.

[Russell Wilson]

And.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, it's been a little difficult, you know, because I'm. I'm just my personality type. I don't trust people with my stuff. So whether it's, you know, my firearms, my tools, my memorabilia, I've been moving up.

[Will Compton]

And your wheel of cheese.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, no, I left that for you boys. That was a gift. You still have it though, right?

[Will Compton]

Something like that. I. I think, yeah, we might have donated it.

[Clay Matthews]

Is that why the mice were coming into the.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we got. We got freaking mouses now. We got m.

[Clay Matthews]

You had mice before I was here? No, bro, this place always stunk. I'm glad you cleaned it up, though.

[Will Compton]

The wheel of cheese didn't help?

[Clay Matthews]

No, it didn't help, but it was a gift.

[Will Compton]

You were supposed to bring in tools so we could eat it, and you never brought in tools.

[Clay Matthews]

You're right, I did say that. But that was an opportunity for you to come save the day. So now, just like when you reach out, actually, you know what? You always do reach out to me to see it save the day. That's why I'm here sitting down. So I should have brought that. Anyways, getting back to your question. Moving. Okay. We got the kids. Spring break coming up, poetry night at the kids school.

[Will Compton]

Nice.

[Clay Matthews]

My daughter wrote about basketball. Helped her with that rhyme a little bit, but. Yeah, man, just trying to be a good father and husband. Seem to be failing at both, but trying my hardest, you know? Really trying my hardest.

[Will Compton]

Do you. Do you miss the boys? Are you pumped to be in today?

[Clay Matthews]

Damn, fired up.

[Will Compton]

I think we were all a little juiced.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Clay Matthews, like, when I walked in

[Will Compton]

the door, standing ovation.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

A lot to talk about. There's a lot to talk about.

[Clay Matthews]

Why? Yeah, I texted you guys. What do you guys talk about? What do we do on the pod? The locker room? Like, I've never. I've never done a podcast, you know, Like, I mean, I sat there and been a guest. But when we do the locker room, we talk about, you know, we give our bad takes, right?

[Will Compton]

We talk about one thing. We talk about ball.

[Clay Matthews]

We talk about ball. But here, it's like I said, send me last week's episode, the interview you had with Bryce Harper. And, man, y' all just talk about for the first, like, 50 minutes. And I go, all right, let's hit the headlines.

[Will Compton]

What happened over the weekend? You see what happened in Iran? Joking. We're Joe. We like to have fun on the bus. We like to have fun on the bus.

[Clay Matthews]

I saw the Supreme Leader's dead. Is that what we're talking about?

[JP]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

We got guess. Oh, sorry. Shut up and dribble. Nah, you're right. You're right.

[Will Compton]

Steel.

[Clay Matthews]

Wait. What's up? What do you want to say?

[Will Compton]

The flames were high this weekend on my grill. I grilled for the first time.

[Clay Matthews]

Did you?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Are you a gas grill? Do you use charcoal? Are you a pellet?

[Will Compton]

Gas now. Because it came with the house. But I had a beautiful. What. What was it? Because JP kind of hooked it up.

[Clay Matthews]

Traeger.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

With pit boss.

[Will Compton]

Pit boss.

[Clay Matthews]

Yep.

[Will Compton]

I had this. What is that? It's got the little pellets in there. It's where you can kind of smoke and.

[Clay Matthews]

Or grill.

[Will Compton]

It smells so good.

[Clay Matthews]

Hickory.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. But right now, grill and gas grill.

[JP]

Well, we didn't get an after photo, which makes me wonder.

[Clay Matthews]

Is this. Is this you? This is what you.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Look at that marbling. You saw that?

[Clay Matthews]

Bare bones, but you come out.

[Will Compton]

No free shout outs to bare bones Butcher rate that.

[JP]

Me just uncooked Clay. You think he picked a good, good cut?

[Clay Matthews]

I mean, it looks good. Real fatty. Good marbling. It definitely isn't Kirkland. Knowing. Knowing you, I'm sure it's organic. You know what I'm saying? Oh, my bad.

[Will Compton]

I sent that photo to Clump too. He's like, that's a steak.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, It's a good looking steak.

[Will Compton]

That's. That's what you get a gift for. Yeah. Bone in ribeye.

[Clay Matthews]

Would you. What do you. How do you like your state? You go to a restaurant?

[Will Compton]

Rare.

[Clay Matthews]

Nice.

[Will Compton]

Medium rare.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. What do you. What do you. What do you season it with?

[Will Compton]

I actually used. Again, no free shout outs to our boy. But cuso. I used one of his seasonings.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm more of a salt, pepper and just butter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Love a good butter.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Maybe put some rosemary on. I didn't get in the. I didn't get in the weeds like that over the weekend.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

First grill of the season. First grill of the year.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But it was beautiful outside.

[JP]

Wait, hang on.

[Will Compton]

What?

[JP]

How did it turn out?

[Will Compton]

It turned out great. Even the next day we had leftovers because we did sausages, bratwurst steaks, grilled up some veggies.

[JP]

Let's go. We. We just didn't get the after photo. So I was wondering, did it. Did it turn.

[Will Compton]

I didn't take an after photo and like, stuff got moving. It was good. I. I swear to God. Swear To God. Hey, I swear, boys, I swear, we're

[Clay Matthews]

still waiting on those ribs that you said you promised us three years ago.

[Russell Wilson]

Damn.

[Will Compton]

Well, I gave the ribs. The ribs didn't deliver. Ribs didn't deliver. I do.

[Clay Matthews]

I do this, like, pork ribs or beef ribs?

[Will Compton]

Pork.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

I do like a nice, fat beef rib, though. But for this story, there were pork ribs, an apple jalapeno, smoked ribs.

[Clay Matthews]

Do you do like.

[Will Compton]

I overcooked them a little bit.

[Clay Matthews]

You do like a base of like you. You rub it in mustard. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Get the fingers in there.

[Clay Matthews]

So when I drop the skin, I

[Will Compton]

always struggle tearing off that. What is the membrane?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you got to get a paper towel. We'll get a paper towel and.

[Will Compton]

Or I use my fingers, and they slip the whole time.

[Clay Matthews]

You got to get a nice filet knife. Is this you?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Looks a little sloppy, but can't judge a book by its cover.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you got to taste them.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Gotta get your teeth in them, but yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

2020 Covid ribs right there.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

You weren't having anybody over. You probably ate those all yourself.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

You still playing ball at that time? I mean, obviously, that was your offseason, but 2020.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I was still in the league. Yeah, I was still in the league. I was still getting it in finesse in the off season. Show up mercenary during the year.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Get the credited year bounce. Hold them hostage for the next contract.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Will we need you. Need you for minimum. Hey, can't do without no signing bonus,

[Clay Matthews]

you know, at least 5K.

[Will Compton]

You know what I'm saying?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Big money. Oh. So where were we? Where were we? Not that topic.

[JP]

If y' all talking about football and he wants to laugh.

[Will Compton]

I actually. I have a. I have a Kevin's Natural Foods clean take for this week.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

I have a Kevin's Natural Foods clean take this week.

[JP]

Are you sure it's clean?

[Will Compton]

This one might. This.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm staring.

[Will Compton]

This one's not a Kevin's Natural Food clean take. This is just.

[Clay Matthews]

Put that disclaimer out.

[Will Compton]

Put that disclaimer out. This is not a Kevin's Natural Food.

[Clay Matthews]

A clean take.

[Will Compton]

Whatever. This is an observation.

[Clay Matthews]

This is a.

[Will Compton]

It's a Willie C. Shout out. It's a shout out. No free shout out. I don't mind when you're going to. And you catch a little rippage when you. When you're pushing.

[Clay Matthews]

Wait, Rippage?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, like there might be a little. Might be a little blood in the toilet, brother.

[Clay Matthews]

What are we talking about here?

[Russell Wilson]

Like.

[Clay Matthews]

Like you're talking about our fresh take. I'm. I'm assuming you got. No, this is a combines coming up.

[Will Compton]

This isn't a fresh take. This isn't a clean take.

[Clay Matthews]

This is a dirty take.

[Will Compton]

My Kevin's natural food, by the way. I know that we're just passing by that one. I don't mind a little struggle when you're going to. Is anybody. Why though?

[Clay Matthews]

You like the a. Probably like the feeling.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Oh, I don't mind it, but it's kind of. You kind of like the challenge.

[JP]

Like when you. When you pull that piece of toilet paper away and you see the first blood. What's going through your head?

[Clay Matthews]

Are you still wiping?

[Will Compton]

This might be a little too much. I don't mind a challenge, but when it gets to where it could be a hernia or hemorrhoid.

[Clay Matthews]

Right.

[Will Compton]

Not a her.

[JP]

Matt, you want to speak on that?

[Will Compton]

Have any. Y' all had a hemorrhoid before?

[JP]

Matt has.

[Will Compton]

It's not good. It's not fun.

[Clay Matthews]

Did you have to get it removed or just you had to calm down all that play back there? Yeah, Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I had to put some cream up there and just eventually.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I mean, but that's not. That's not for the. That's not the same.

[Clay Matthews]

That's not.

[Will Compton]

That's not a. Kevin's not sure. Just a hemorrhoid take for the betterment. I. Yeah, I'm saying it's not. Okay.

[Matt Rogers]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

If we're going to do.

[Clay Matthews]

If we're going to go.

[Russell Wilson]

Keep going with Shout out. No free shout out. I do. I do have one.

[Clay Matthews]

I.

[Russell Wilson]

My shadow. No free shout out to my dad. He is retiring this week.

[Will Compton]

Nice.

[Clay Matthews]

Shout out, Dan.

[Russell Wilson]

Shout out bad. You deserve it.

[Clay Matthews]

Go to Florida and just off and don't do anything for a long time.

[Russell Wilson]

Y love.

[Will Compton]

Let's go. Shut up. Papa Carsley.

[Russell Wilson]

Damn. You've met him.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I know. He's a homie. I've texted him happy birthday on his birthday. Yeah. We got a good relationship. My Kevin's not your food. Clean take is. Will Compton is a better tester than Clay Matthews in.

[Clay Matthews]

In what?

[Will Compton]

Tester? Combine.

[Clay Matthews]

You were even invited to the combine. How can you have better numbers than me?

[Will Compton]

Pro day.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, Pro day. When you can just fabricate your numbers.

[Will Compton]

You can't fabricate your. Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

Why did you.

[Will Compton]

Why did you fabricate better numbers?

[Clay Matthews]

Because I was. I had all 32 eyes on me from 32 organizations. NFL Network. No, you did. Yeah. We did not know 2010 when sue came out. Did people start caring about Nebraska 2000.

[Will Compton]

I was, I was post. I was post, Sue. Post post 2010.

[Clay Matthews]

The next two who was. What year, what year did you come out?

[Will Compton]

Defensive MVP 2012.

[Clay Matthews]

What? The Blue Bonnet Bowl, Nebraska. Ye. Of Nebraska.

[Will Compton]

Yeah,

[Clay Matthews]

brother. I went on.

[Will Compton]

Time out. Time out. Time. Are you trying to discredit that?

[Clay Matthews]

What? All of it.

[Will Compton]

You're trying to say that's fluff.

[Clay Matthews]

Your 454 is fluff.

[Will Compton]

No, it's not.

[Clay Matthews]

So I, I asked these boys last night, I said, hey, what are we going to talk about? Like we're going to talk about the combine. They're like, yo, check out this PDF just so you can run down what current affairs that we might talk about. And I see. All right, they're comparing Clay and Will's numbers. I go 454 like you were scooting. If it was 45 4, I couldn't validate that anywhere. There's one clip online of Nebraska where the clock starts like a half a second after you leave. After you leave. Like it's not official.

[Will Compton]

I, I see you're watching tape.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I, I was because I was like, hey, if you ran a 454, I'll give it to you. Who you calling? You dad. Hey, dad.

[Will Compton]

Head strength coach at Nebraska.

[Clay Matthews]

Of course he's going to lie for you.

[Will Compton]

He's not going to lie. This is a man of honor and integrity.

[Clay Matthews]

How would he remember he hadn't picked

[JP]

up the last three times?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. All right, good.

[Will Compton]

Oh, here he is. He picked up here live. All right, Coach Dobson, you're, you're on busting with the boys. But we have a question for you because everybody fast at your pro day. I know they're all coming after me. They're saying, clay, I got Clay Matthew sitting on the bus. He's like, I can't validate your 40 time anywhere. So I picked up my phone and I called you let these people know what I ran on pro day.

[Russell Wilson]

Well, going into it, you didn't do hardly all sub maximal stuff because you

[Will Compton]

had that hernia deal. So we didn't even know what you

[Clay Matthews]

were going to be able to do at all. Especially the Pro Agility 3 calling that kind of deal.

[Will Compton]

But I remember right, electronic 4 5. It's honestly all we needed.

[Russell Wilson]

I can't remember exactly what it was, but I know you're 10 I think was a one five one.

[Clay Matthews]

That'll be phenomenal.

[Will Compton]

It was 149.

[Clay Matthews]

151.9 was me.

[Will Compton]

151 is what he's singing about because that's what. Hang on, the. That's what hung on the wall.

[Clay Matthews]

For the record, 151 is elite.

[Russell Wilson]

No, he was good. He was good. Good acceleration, but yeah, I mean it legit.

[Will Compton]

No. 4, 5, 4, 5 low. Whatever the hell it was.

[Clay Matthews]

I can't remember, was it 4, 5, 4 or something? Hey, slow it down. The clock doesn't even.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that's the lore.

[Clay Matthews]

See what I'm talking about? Go back. The clock doesn't even start.

[Will Compton]

So I think somebody just put that clock there, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

But it stops. Look at this. It stops that. You're already in a full sprint. It's 0.06. Like every hundredth of a second matters.

[Will Compton]

Dob, I appreciate you because we're all having like a nice silly goose time. We love the bus balls. We're laughing at what you could be saying, but I love how you're carrying this with such professionalism and you remember it. And you're. You're a no nonsense guy. So I appreciate you delivering that news for him. I'm not gonna lie about it. It doesn't be absolutely no good. And it.

[Russell Wilson]

And I'll be honest with you, it surprised the out of me too. Just being honest.

[Will Compton]

You're the man. I love you. I'll call you on my way home.

[Clay Matthews]

All right, brother.

[Will Compton]

Take care. Hey, I love you.

[Clay Matthews]

He's not gonna say. Did you hear that?

[Will Compton]

Hey, that's a strength coach right there. He sounded like that's.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that's solid though. Like, I gotta. If you can run in the four fives. So at my pro day, I ran in the four fives as well too. Hand time. But I don't know if that's electric. Yeah. Hand time.

[Will Compton]

No, he. He was saying electronic. There were some that popped up. 4 5, 4, 5 1. On the handheld when I ran at

[Clay Matthews]

the combine, it was like 4 5, 4, 4, 5, 6. And then when the electronics like 4 6, I was like, golly. Like that just jumped back quite considerably. But the 10 yard split is what I've always said. Like, that's my get off my acceleration. My burst is always what separated me.

[Will Compton]

And that's the bread and butter, especially

[Clay Matthews]

as a pass rusher. And I was second in the entire combine to Percy Harvin, who had a 148. 10 yards. No, no. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

What was your size? What were your measurables?

[Clay Matthews]

I was 246. 3 and 5 8. 240.

[Will Compton]

It's a specimen.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know. I didn't really care about that stuff

[Will Compton]

you got to get the combine.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, right here. The immeasurables. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

What was your. Bring up the numbers again. What was your pro agility?

[Clay Matthews]

I did well in the. The agilities. Oh, 20.

[Will Compton]

You only got 23 reps on 225.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, I mean, how many. How many did you only get, though?

[Will Compton]

If you wanted to beat me, you would have to get 24.

[Clay Matthews]

You probably weren't even locking out your elbows. Like I said, I had the coaches on it.

[Will Compton]

I. I will say I have shorter arms.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay, well, that's all right, though. Like, the bench press is so overrated. Now, I know you. This is a whole gimmick you're doing right now. But, like, if I can speak candidly, like, the bench press, like, as long as you don't the bed and like, eight to 10 reps, like, you get. You get 18, 20, 25. And then I think there's also something to be said. Unless you're a lime. If you're like a linebacker cranking out 35 reps, like, you might be a stiff.

[Will Compton]

That might be. That's too.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that's too much.

[Will Compton]

Too much for.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Backer. Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Clay Matthews]

And then what else? What else?

[Russell Wilson]

Bunnies.

[Will Compton]

Bunnies. I did notice that broad over 10.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

35 vert.

[Clay Matthews]

I think I was number. It was so Aaron Curry out of Wake Forest dominated the combine. He went number three or four overall to Seattle.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he was a top ten.

[Clay Matthews]

Top ten. Yeah, he was a stud. He was like, there was no chasing him. We had a great class of outside linebackers, like Larry English, Cushing me. I think they even threw in a buddy from Tennessee, Ayers. Robert Ayers. Yeah, there's. There was a Tennessee dn. Might have been Robert Ayers. Anyway, it was. It was a good class of outside linebackers. I think I might have went fourth or fifth.

[Will Compton]

Was any part of. Like, were you in Kush? Like, were you guys secretly just competing?

[Clay Matthews]

Like, we were always competing. I told that when we sat down, like, we're still. Like, he's. He's one of my best good friends. But, like, when we. Like, we were always competing, like, who would get drafted first, who would get the most tackles, who get the most coverage? Just for me, like, he was doing that since he came out of. He was that guy coming out of high school. I wasn't. Like, I kind of came up towards my last year. I played the first game we played Virginia had a great game. Like, okay, this is a guy late, you know, might sneak in the Draft, fifth to seventh rounder. A couple more games. Oh, he might be a third rounder. And then I really benefited from the combine, which I know is going on right now. The pro day just, you know, just flashing. I was like the new girl, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey, you've been with your girl for four years. You know what she could bring. But you see that one over there with the long blonde hair? You're like, yeah, I need to trade up for this one.

[Will Compton]

Long arms bun.

[Clay Matthews]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I had I. Good. Explosive ability. Explosive. Explosives.

[Will Compton]

Would you say the combine helped you out a lot? I know there's always, you know, you know, you know, players and everybody just in the football universe, there's always a question of, does the combine matter that much?

[Clay Matthews]

Listen, I think your game film is truly what matters, especially if you're a starter. And but for me, I think it definitely helped out because I only started 10 games, I think eight in my last year. So to go out there and kind of, you know, put those numbers down that were. I think I was, you know, top five and a lot of them. It helped me out in any interview process, I'm sure, you know, getting. Getting to know somebody, see kind of how they're cut the cloth they come from and then position drills as well, just seeing how smooth somebody is. So, yeah, I definitely think it helped me out. I met with. Man, I was. I was. I met with almost every team out there in Indianapolis.

[Will Compton]

How nervous were you going in?

[Clay Matthews]

I wasn't. I had so much like, listen, you got to understand, I mean, you. You kind of know this. I know you got recruited out, you know, out of high school, but I was a walk on. I was like a nobody. So now all of a sudden, they're like, yo, Clay, Ron Rivera from the San Diego Chargers, defensive coordinator wants to holler at you. You know, the Saints, the, the this, the that. I don't even think I met with the packers just because they had the ninth overall pick, but, like, I had a blast doing it, too. Plus, it was cool. Just that fraternity, just being from a football family. Everybody either knew my uncle or dad or this and that. So, you know, it was. I really enjoyed it.

[Will Compton]

You felt like you're playing with house money.

[Clay Matthews]

I mean, I felt good. I felt confident.

[Will Compton]

That's awesome.

[Clay Matthews]

I felt comfortable.

[Will Compton]

I was a nervous wreck on pro day.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I mean, I was nervous, but, like, you know, I don't know, you know how it is. You're always nervous. You always got butterflies do what you do. I mean, you. You were that guy. You were Nebraska mvp.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. That is facts. That's facts.

[Clay Matthews]

That guy.

[Will Compton]

It is.

[Clay Matthews]

I was just special teams mvp. Oh. This was training before I learned how to run on my toes. That's probably why I hit a 467.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. But the hair was still looking good.

[Will Compton]

I was so Lee.

[Clay Matthews]

What am I, 21 and now I'm 39. You know what I'm saying?

[Will Compton]

Dude, I was that cap. I was so tight. I was so tight when I didn't get invited to the combine.

[Clay Matthews]

You should have been.

[Will Compton]

I was so tight, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

You probably should have gone for me. You know what I'm saying?

[Will Compton]

Well, I still went undrafted.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, but maybe you could have got a few extra.

[Will Compton]

If I would have got. Maybe if I would have been part of the combine group. Like, the number of guys.

[Clay Matthews]

What teams. What teams wanted you after, like, post draft. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Like the free agency or.

[Clay Matthews]

Did anyone talk to you before, like, your agent saying, hey, if you don't get drafted, we'd love to have you, dude.

[Will Compton]

So the San Diego Chargers call the second day early. Just talking about being interested. Not, like, drafting me or anything like that, but in my brain, I'm like, oh, shit. Chargers might get me in one of these picks. This is day two. They end up drafted Manti Tao. That. For that. That the top of the second day because Teo has fallen to the beginning of the second round.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And then throughout the process, it was Washington called Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Chicago Bears. Those were the teams that were kind of like, reaching out, especially, like, toward the end of the draft.

[Clay Matthews]

How'd you. How'd you end up going to the Redskins? Did they offer the most money? Did you felt like.

[Will Compton]

My agent called me and said, you're going to be a Washington Redskin. Once the draft got over, like, he called me and told me, hey, here are the teams that are interested. I was very much like, man, it would be sick to go to Tampa. I was even telling him it'd be cool to go to Tampa because Levante is there playing with Levante again. And then he called me back within five minutes, like, congratulations, you're going to be a Washington redskins.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, dope.

[Will Compton]

$5,000 signing bonus. The others are 2500. So we took the Washington.

[Clay Matthews]

Do you.

[Will Compton]

Do you money, man?

[Clay Matthews]

Do you wish in hindsight of those teams, like, and we're just playing the game now, like, maybe if you went to Chicago, you could have been one of those monsters of the midway. You went to Tampa Maybe you could have played off, you know? Yeah. Like, do you wish or, like, it is what it is?

[Will Compton]

I do wish I would have got to play with Levante again. I think that.

[Clay Matthews]

Did he go to Nebraska?

[Will Compton]

Levante? Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. So I didn't know that he was a juco cat.

[Will Compton]

He came for two years, and after his two years, he's, like, in the top three in tackles of all time in Nebraska within two years of playing.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, dude.

[Will Compton]

I mean, he's. He's still doing. He's a monster.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he's a monster.

[Will Compton]

But that would have been sick to play with him. Chicago would have just been cool just because of, like, a vicinity, like, not going too far away because Nebraska was, like, seven, eight hours away from home, which was nice. And then, like, going on the coast, like, I was nervous about that just because. Completely new territory, new environment. But, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't. Obviously, I love the career that I had, but if I. If I got to choose, it would have been like Tampa Bay just because of Levante. Playing with Levante again.

[Clay Matthews]

I thought you went there just because they were called the Redskins. And just knowing how much of a racist he is, he was like, yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Oh, we're joking. We like to bust balls on the pod.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, joking.

[Will Compton]

No, man.

[Unknown Guest]

I got a question. What portion of the combine would the average American struggle the most with?

[Will Compton]

Like, the average American?

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, just like your most middle of the road athletic American. Just the most average guy out there. What portion of the combine are they struggling with the most? Where are they going to really have the wall they got to climb over?

[Clay Matthews]

Well, I would say bench. There's probably a handful that probably couldn't even do 225.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I would say naturally get buried.

[Will Compton]

Look like. Oh, boy. Did you see that clip going viral?

[Clay Matthews]

No, dude.

[Will Compton]

Who took off? What was it, 425 or 405?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Took it off the rack and it just collapsed his wrist. Is that what happened?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

If you go look at it, you'll see his wrist snap and then that, like, snaps that. But the bar slips out of him. You can see them bend backwards, and it falls straight on his sternum.

[Will Compton]

Do we know if the kid's okay?

[Unknown Guest]

I think so, but.

[Clay Matthews]

But who cares? It's viral. So, like, you know, they. You cut. You just. Whenever people get hurt, you just cut the video and you're like. And you get a good laugh.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, but, bro. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

That's how the Internet works, right? Sure.

[Will Compton]

No doubt, no doubt. Like, we had our fun, but part of me is Like, I wonder how he turned out. Like, that bar damn near caved into his spine, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm also getting to the point in, like, life where why are you doing so much weight? Like, you never need to do that much weight on the bench press, but

[Will Compton]

this is a high schooler.

[Clay Matthews]

Even more so, like, you know.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he's trying to be you, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

I understand.

[Will Compton]

Because of how driven you were, trying to put weight on the bar.

[Clay Matthews]

There's a fine line between pushing yourself and just doing too much. But maybe he's, I mean, when you got that. No, he's wrists are good. He just lost, he just lost control.

[Will Compton]

He's good. He's good.

[Clay Matthews]

He didn't have proper, proper spot it off, big guy.

[Unknown Guest]

Who, who's at fault more here, though? The guy's ego thinking he could do 425 or his not properly spotting him.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

On the side of the, on the front of the.

[Clay Matthews]

Even when you're there, like, to, you know, to catch it like that, I feel like that's darn near.

[Will Compton]

You wouldn't have caught it, but you'd have still been there to help absorb a little bit. Because, you know when you're maxing out, when you're, when you got the, when you're going after it, you got, yeah, you got three spotters there.

[Russell Wilson]

I feel like that's tough, though, because

[Will Compton]

when you are maxing it, you're like, don't touch it. Let me get it myself.

[Russell Wilson]

You know what I mean?

[Will Compton]

But he wasn't even in that. Like, it just, it was a free fall. That's why I feel like you're not ready as a spotter, though. Like, when he takes it off, you're expecting him to at least get it down and struggle. You're not expecting that thing to just crush. But you're still, you're still around, right?

[Russell Wilson]

You're right.

[Will Compton]

Could have helped a little. Yeah, but, man, hope he's, hope he's okay.

[Clay Matthews]

That's a broken rib or four.

[Will Compton]

Oh, it's broken. Something shattered his sternum. Had to. Yeah, Lungs, right.

[Unknown Guest]

Had it.

[Will Compton]

Like, that's £400 free falling. Like, there was no eccentric or anything.

[Russell Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[Will Compton]

It just dropped on him. It just dropped on him. What up?

[Clay Matthews]

I was just going to say we go. You go back to these numbers. So you, you, you're flying on the 40.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I, I, I was a white boy with motion.

[Clay Matthews]

How, how did that translate to the NFL game? Were you. I was first one down on kickoff.

[Will Compton]

I was great. But no, no, no, no. I was A flow backer on kickoff. That's why. No, no, that's why I said clean. Take better tester than Clay Matthews.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know. I still have better. Better numbers.

[Will Compton]

Clay Matthews. Like, let's just call a spade a spade. My 45 wasn't translating at all times on the football field. I can. I'm an old dog. It's. I'm 36. It's over. I just got a Dexa last week. I'm 27. Body fat. Over 600 grams of visceral fat. Like, I got some work to do.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah, don't worry. I sat down and pulled my belts up.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I hate these pants. These are those pants where I got the. I got the smallest bowls. Like, I don't got nothing. I got a small Peter. Fat dude.

[Clay Matthews]

But I'll call, lose some weight. You'll be looking like, who's that? See, I just started a Night in the Seven Kingdoms at the beginning of episode two. Golly. Got living up to their reputation, just showing dong all the time right out

[Will Compton]

of the gate, just right.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm like, whoa. I was in bed with my wife. Turned it a little bit. That's not real, baby.

[Will Compton]

Are you into this?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

That's too much, right?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But, yeah, my. My 4 5, I wasn't running a 4. 5 speed on kickoff, flying down. Now, I was head hunting, but I was a flowbacker, so you'd have the faster cats I'd sit at for you. Yeah, yeah. If I was at the L4, you'd need the 3 to be the guy that kind of goes in front of me, and I'd stack him.

[Clay Matthews]

I was at L4. I think I was like, L4, L3.

[Will Compton]

See, then I'd be the five. If you're a four and you were humming faster than me, I'd be a five and be like, you're the. You go see. You go see ball, get ball. And I'm flowing off. I'm kind of reading.

[Clay Matthews]

See, that's what I loved about the inside backer, too. Having played, you know, on the D line, so to speak. Like, understanding how my 03 and 5 tech worked. I'm like, just go be decisive. I'll be deciding enough athlete where I'm gonna read off. You don't worry about, you know, saying, that's why guys like A.D. i mean, now they're Aaron Donald, incredibly gifted to do what they do, but just, you know, being decisive. If they're hitting back doors, even J.J. watt, like, just be decisive.

[Will Compton]

Right? Right.

[Matt Rogers]

Just make a Move.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Let you hunt. And the minute I see whatever the block is, I'm trying to scrape off that dude's ass.

[Clay Matthews]

Ball, hit ball.

[JP]

It's a shame we never got to see that in the league, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Both of us together.

[Will Compton]

Oh, me and Clay. Yeah.

[JP]

Imagine him and the other three.

[Clay Matthews]

So 2019, who were you with? Because I was a free agent after the 18 season.

[Will Compton]

The Raiders.

[Clay Matthews]

I should have signed with the Raiders 2000.

[JP]

Y' all would have been nice on the Raiders.

[Clay Matthews]

Damn. We probably won, like, three or four games, dude.

[Will Compton]

Us in the silver and black, number one. Their unis go so hard.

[Clay Matthews]

They do.

[Will Compton]

But you with the flow going and.

[Russell Wilson]

What do you mean three to four games?

[Unknown Guest]

Can you leave them?

[JP]

The playoffs plus three to four games?

[Russell Wilson]

What happened? 19 would only want three or four games with the Raiders, Then you lead them to the playoffs and you're.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we were. We were at a synchronous.

[Clay Matthews]

What year was that? When Carr, until he broke his ankle, like, they were rolling. The Raiders were rolling.

[Will Compton]

That was before me.

[Clay Matthews]

That was before.

[Will Compton]

Okay, but this one right here, this was 2021, I believe. When I got there, it was sink or swim. Like, that's when they fired Gruden and they needed somebody to come in and help right the ship and get us to the playoffs.

[Clay Matthews]

That was you?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Couple double teams on kickoff return. Kor just eating up dope.

[Clay Matthews]

Look at that.

[Will Compton]

It was fun, though. That.

[JP]

That was a year mentoring Max Crosby.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, mentoring Max Crosby, absolutely. That was a year, too, because JP And a couple of the boys came out to Vegas, and that was one where I was like, that year, because that was the last year I played. That was one where I was like, I am playing with house money. That was one where I was like, I just loved playing and being around everybody because I knew that this was it.

[Clay Matthews]

Right? That was so 19 was your last year.

[Will Compton]

2021.

[Clay Matthews]

Sorry, 2021. Yeah, that's what I meant.

[Will Compton]

I got cut twice in one week on that year.

[Russell Wilson]

Damn.

[Will Compton]

Got cut. There's a snow. There was like a snowstorm in Nashville, so my flight got delayed so I couldn't fly out that day. Next morning, I wake up to go ahead to my flight. Versace is on the phone. He's like, hey, are you still in town? I was like, yeah. He's like, somebody popped for Covid. He's like, would you want to. He's like, now, look, we are. We gave you this week's pay. Like, they did. They did right by me. They gave me this week's pay they waited to cut me on Wednesday, so that way I got the week. You'd essentially be playing for free. But would you want to play? And I was like, hell yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Will Compton]

It was the winning get in game against the Chargers.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, you got to.

[Will Compton]

And then right after we beat the Chargers, it was, hey, if I had control of the roster, you'd still be with us in the playoffs.

[Clay Matthews]

Is that Versace? Is that who just left the Packers? He was the packers special teams coordinator.

[Will Compton]

Did he leave the Packers?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Dang.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Was there any reason why I just say he was just taking a leave? Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Was his like not one of the coach anymore?

[Clay Matthews]

Well, the packers special teams have been.

[Will Compton]

They've been tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as results go and everything else. Versace is a goon, bro. Yeah, he's a beast, man. He's a. He's a leader.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

He's a leader. He's a good one. He's a good one. But yeah, Versace was the interim head coach and then after that year because when they fired Gruden, that was when they were having like a solid year. We ended up winning a lot of games on the back half to where he was up for the head coaching job. And then that, that' they went and got McDaniels.

[Clay Matthews]

Right.

[Will Compton]

Then when McDaniels gets fired in the middle of the year, then they hired Al Pierce.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, Antonio Pierce.

[Will Compton]

Antonio Pierce. Because they're in another situation of do we hire the interim head coach. They just won the back half of the year. Not to make this a big Raiders podcast. Who are they taking the first overall? Fernando Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza. But some, that, yeah, some, some, some Las Vegas Raiders lore right there.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, well you'll for. You got a brick, right? Don't you get a brick if you play for the Raiders?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, dude, they're alumni. Their alumni club, whatever. They're the best in the league. They still send me stuff on Christmas on my birthday.

[Clay Matthews]

Dude, I'm boys with Donald Penn. I haven't seen him in a while because we used to train in California. Tackle play for Tampa and then the Raiders. But yeah, he's always. It seems like he's more of a Raider and I don't know how long he played with the. With the two teams than he is a buck. But I always see he's got like a brick that he posts and he's always going to like Raiders alumni.

[Will Compton]

If you played on the squad, you have a brick at their new stadium video.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, even, even when they hired the new Coach, you had like Charles White, I think. Was it Charles White or Charles Woodson? Man, I'm forgetting. I'm disgracing myself to usc. But all, all those great Raiders. There's like three great Raiders that were behind how we long behind their new

[Will Compton]

coach that they hire because their fan base is incredible. Their organization as far as like their alumni association taking care of guys. Like they're communicating with guys essentially all year round. They're the only ones that kind of. Out of the three teams I played for that follow up and do.

[Clay Matthews]

So when you retired, who did you retire? Who. What organization did you retire as a Raider?

[Will Compton]

I just retired a man of the NFL. You know what I mean?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Just journeyman.

[Clay Matthews]

Journeyman.

[JP]

You still got a one day waiting for you when you want to make a decision.

[Will Compton]

Whoever wants to sign me for a one day contract. Yeah, I'm up for. I'm up for grabs. But I'm a man of the. I'm a man of the shield.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You know what I mean?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yes, I do.

[Clay Matthews]

Protect the shield. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

At all costs. What other. Other storylines I felt like was coming out of the combine? Coach Glenn. Aaron. Glenn falling asleep. Did you see him get caught? To me I'm like, you know, that's a, that's a. You're there for.

[Clay Matthews]

Listen, yeah, we, we. This all happened when we were sitting in meetings too and coach was talking. It's just, it's a bad look when you're on camera, especially with everything that's coming out of that organization in light of recent years. Like, it's not a good look, but the reality is like, I don't think anybody really cares. Although I will say they do have the second overall pick and they're watching like pass rushers, like maybe just, you

[Will Compton]

know, fall asleep just knowing that a. Coach Glenn, the microscope is on you at all times.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Gotta be prepared.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Because his reaction was fun. It was fun to.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he played kind of tripped out.

[Will Compton]

Oh, I'm on tv. Let's see if the camera's still on me. Oh, camera's still on me. Let's dial it in.

[Clay Matthews]

I bet you the cameraman was a Patriots fan. That's. That's what I'm thinking. Like, he's got him. He's like, cut the camera 4. Oh, look at this.

[Will Compton]

This flow right here. What's this young man's name? I know he's out of Iowa.

[Clay Matthews]

The one with the red hair. Mullet.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Unbelievable.

[Will Compton]

Do we know his name?

[Russell Wilson]

I forget his name,

[Clay Matthews]

but don't know his name?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah.

[JP]

Dude, have you ever seen that? Have you guys ever seen that one coach? He coaches up, like, middle school and high school alignment, and he just tears into these kids, like, get your hips moving.

[Russell Wilson]

Like.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah.

[JP]

And, bro, these kids are horrible. And all I could picture watching that video was that guy's voice underneath it. You gotta know.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I'm sure I've seen. I'm sure I've seen that stuff.

[Unknown Guest]

Jennings Dunker is his name.

[Will Compton]

Jennings Dunker.

[Unknown Guest]

What a name.

[Will Compton]

What a name. On that mop alone, you'll get some kind of deal. I mean. Yeah, Head and Shoulders.

[Clay Matthews]

That was Troy.

[Russell Wilson]

Oh.

[Will Compton]

Oh. Which one were you?

[Clay Matthews]

I was Suave. Oh, I just. So, so, so Head and Shoulders was.

[Will Compton]

So we bring. Am I bringing a beef right now?

[Clay Matthews]

No, no, no. Well, beef between the two parent companies, between Unilever and Proctor and Gamble. Okay, so, like, so they own a number. No, I remember, like, it's just you're either. You're either in bed with one or the other. And eventually I got back in good graces with Procter and Gamble. Okay, yeah. Because if you're like a Unilever guy or Procter and Gamble, how quickly did you get a deal with this shower company? With the shower company, I think heading into, I want to say, going in my second year, like after my rookie year, because there was a dope like, you know, you have to be an NFL paid sponsor endorser in order to, you know, show the. Show the, you know, the packers logo or whatever it is. But we had just won the super bowl and it was. It was from Suave and it was like a full page. I'm gonna say, like, New York Times says, congratulations, you know, Clay Matthews, you are head and shoulders above the rest. And it was me just like flexing on. On like, big. Yeah. With big suave bottles and stuff. They got a cease and desist. But, hey, it's over. Heading Shoulders above the rest.

[Will Compton]

Move already been made.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Damage was done. Yeah, man, that's awesome. I could see him getting, like. It's crazy to me. Some of the kids that go, like, into the league already having something that's like defining them because that dude's clearly. It's his hair. Like, he know and he knows it.

[Clay Matthews]

It's awesome. Yeah. Now we had. We have muscle. I had muscle milk, too. Muscle milk. I had it everywhere. There was a Bible, There was muscle milk. I had my walk on T shirt before Michael Chandler, you know, I had to. Had to walk on. But we got some good money out of that and they're good USC people.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[JP]

Milk Matthews.

[Clay Matthews]

So, yeah, you see this, like, right here, like, Muscle Milk. Like, they're not a league sponsor, so you kind of have to, you know, like, you can't make it look too much like the Packers.

[Will Compton]

Right. Just the colors, default colors. Give me strength to blitz faster to stop the pass.

[Clay Matthews]

Muscle Milk.

[Will Compton]

I love that, dude.

[Clay Matthews]

I love Muscle Milk. You just shout out Muscle Milk. Always free shout outs for life. They got it. They got something new coming out.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, Shoot him the clips. Just want, you guys know, working for you.

[Clay Matthews]

That was a great shoot right there. Sang Bill Withers right there while filming that. Oh, that's that for. That might have been for Muscle Milk.

[Will Compton]

You. You ever feel like you got you. What's up?

[JP]

Solid photo.

[Will Compton]

You ever feel like you got caught up too much in the fame?

[Clay Matthews]

No, I think I maximized it. I think right when I came in is when they started getting athletes. Athletes were, were, or moving into that. That realm, whatever you want to call it doing. But it was mainly like Power Balance, Nike, Muscle Milk, you know, stuff like that. But pioneer watching Movie star. Movie star.

[Will Compton]

That's what I'm saying. When you did the movie, the Magic Mike movie. That's.

[Clay Matthews]

I wish I did Magic Mike, brother. That's a great movie. The first one, Magic Mike was what

[JP]

they offered you, Will.

[Will Compton]

That's right. You get confused.

[Clay Matthews]

Channing Tatum, Pitch Perfect.

[Will Compton]

Like, when you did Pitch Perfect, were you kind of.

[Clay Matthews]

See, I. But I wouldn't even claim him for that. That I have. I have already spoken on this. I don't want to repeat myself about how it came to be. But the offensive lineman for the packers were like the biggest Pitch Perfect fans. And I might have seen it, might not have. I was like, oh, cool. It's like this fun acapella movie. And then they were like, dming Elizabeth Banks, who I think her husband, or maybe her produce the movie. And somehow her husband was a fan and they wanted us in the second one, and so they sent a script. I'm like, no way. This is real. The David Bach tiara. He was the one spearheading it. And next thing you know, we're down in some Shreveport, maybe in Louisiana for like three days, recording and filming. It was a lot of fun. It was cool. It's just a different world. Like, we went to the premiere, we all slouched down in our seats because we were so embarrassed. Like, singing Bootylicious. But I love it. I have more people come to me now and be like, I saw you In Pitch Perfect. And they do. Like, I saw you win a Super Bowl. They don't care about that anymore. This, hey, Hollywood lives on forever.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[JP]

Is there anything you said no to that you wish you would have said yes to?

[Clay Matthews]

Looking back now, the one thing that I've noticed though is like, even with the show is like, I always tried to be aware of my brand. Like, what? And I do think authenticity sells. This is why, like, Gronkowski and Marshawn lynch, they are who they are, but. But they sell. I think I like y', all, you know, like aura. What is it, Ro or stuff? Like, you'd be like, the row.

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, there's some stuff where you'd be like, I can't do that. But it's like, you know, there was nothing I really said no to. Maybe, maybe there was, but maybe it never got to me.

[Will Compton]

But, you know, there's something you were trying to get, but you didn't get.

[Clay Matthews]

I wanted to be head and shoulders, like, opposite with Troy, but then it was like they went to Odell after. Like, I thought it would be perfect, like, because he had the black hair, I had the blonde hair. You know, I thought, I thought it was just, it was easy marketing. But no, I don't, I don't think so. What you're wearing right now, Carhartt. Carhartt sent me some stuff. They. They've been good to me. They sent me some stuff. Yeah.

[JP]

I only work with Riley Green.

[Clay Matthews]

I gotta be a music singer. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And hey, I'm pop and just a sex pistol dude. He's such a good looking dude like that. That just is what it is.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, but can he operate a chainsaw?

[JP]

Oh, probably.

[Russell Wilson]

Oh, yeah.

[JP]

He's sponsored by cat.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, can he fell it. Damn cat. Yeah, that's what I want. Like, I'm in the phase of that of my life now where if, like, I could get a tractor, shout out John Deere, Kubota, you know anyone else

[Will Compton]

that's watching, you know? No. Riley Green's a man's man. You might be thinking he could he be too much of a pretty boy to swing a chainsaw? Like, that's it. That's a.

[JP]

He was doing construction before he got famous.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, I was watching you in Hawaii, like, do cannonballs. And I'm over there chopping up. I'm chopping up firewood in the backyard, you know. So, like, you talk about a man's man. I'm just like, I feel like, you know, I tell my wife she's lucky, you know, What I'm saying, I remind her all the time. She married a man.

[Will Compton]

I did the same thing yesterday when I got done putting that wall mount up in the garage, brother.

[Clay Matthews]

I told my wife, lucky, you can't use those anchors. Those anchors will not hold. Those little plastic anchors you tap. I'm telling you right now, that's trash.

[Will Compton]

That's what. That's what the instructions told me to do.

[Clay Matthews]

Charm, did you get this man a stud finder? I did. Okay.

[Will Compton]

I got one in my new little toolkit too that the builder gave me. It's a two. Willie, one shelf. Congrats on your house and your first tool set.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay. You got to find the studs first. You always want to anchor into some studs. Okay. The drywall will not hold number one,

[Will Compton]

but the stud is the board.

[Clay Matthews]

The board. You were talking about the thick. Like, I couldn't even understand what you were talking.

[Will Compton]

When you're sitting, studs are the two

[Clay Matthews]

by fours in the wall. They go up and down, vertical.

[Will Compton]

Listen, when you're building and you're going through and you're trying to find it by hitting, and then you feel the.

[Clay Matthews]

That's a stud.

[Will Compton]

That's a stud.

[Clay Matthews]

But you should probably. Well, right. That's why you got to get the stud finder. Because sometimes it could be electrical in there.

[Will Compton]

You don't see some comments about some electrical and then somebody else's body back. This ain't happening in Nashville. This ain't no northeast.

[Clay Matthews]

I saw you body bag a grandma in the first comment. She had a seven year old.

[Will Compton]

She had to get it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, well, I mean, she knew how to hang a shelf.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Did you have a level. Did you have a leveler?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you gotta have a good, like a. Like a magnetic one where I'll put it on and it'll like magnetize to the.

[Clay Matthews]

Do you have different. But you gotta have different sizes too, depending on the length of, you know, 48 inches, 72. Get you a small one magnetized.

[Will Compton]

You talking about a leveler?

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, I love it.

[Will Compton]

I just put one on each. On each one of the little bubble

[Clay Matthews]

ones they give you the one that

[Will Compton]

came in my tool set. Milwaukee.

[Clay Matthews]

Great city.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Out of Wisconsin.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I got the power drills, I got the. The ruler, the tape measure. It looked the leveler.

[Clay Matthews]

I just worry with the wear and tear of you picking up and putting the shovel on and whatever, the broom you have, that over time it's going to get a little loose.

[Will Compton]

Now why is that? Because that's what came in the box.

[Clay Matthews]

It doesn't matter what came in the box. You've got to know how to affix this tool holder to the wall. It's part of being a man's man.

[Will Compton]

Okay, I'm down. Listen, I'm down to say I haven't been a man's man throughout the course of my life and I'm learning to be a man's man. But you gotta. Instead of talking down to me and discrediting the work that I just put in on that garage. Because it's stuff's hanging right now and it's hanging fine. But what are you talking about? Like when I put in them little plastic things, it's the drywall. Go straight through. Like, okay, the screw's not going to go on right here. I need something to fit it. What do I put in?

[Clay Matthews]

Okay, get a better anchor. One that like, I wouldn't know the terminology for right now. One that kind of flays in the back and pulls up against the drywall that holds 50 to 75 pounds. Maybe they got a 75 to 100. Just a little bit more wear and tear a little stronger. So that way your bolt's going to be a little stronger. So you're a little longer, a little stronger.

[Will Compton]

I don't know what, what Sherm's doing.

[Clay Matthews]

I'll do it.

[Will Compton]

So you're giving me game within the game. Hey, whatever comes, whatever, like little tools or whatever comes with the set. Don't use that. I need to get my own.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes.

[Will Compton]

Go down to Ace Hardware. No, free shout out to Ace Hardware and get my own. Like anchors that would go in.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I. I'm not a big fan of the, of the, the plastic ones you put in the wall. Like the ones that you, you know, you drill 5, 8 inch hole, you kind of tap in the plastic. They just, they either go all the way through. You end up strip in the plastic because you're tightening it too tight or you can't get it tight enough.

[Will Compton]

But you're giving me game right now. I didn't know that. There's other.

[Clay Matthews]

I wish you would come to me and ask for help.

[Will Compton]

Well, that's why I asked the Internet, sometimes you gotta, you gotta show the failure in front of them.

[Clay Matthews]

You.

[Will Compton]

I can be the butt of the joke. They can all laugh at me. Oh, screws, nails. I didn't know what I was talking about. But that's. Next time. The next time I will. If it's something serious. I'm thinking I'm hanging out this little wall mount.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I can figure this out. All these little packages of screws.

[Clay Matthews]

Experience is the best teacher. So I'm glad you took it upon yourself to do it.

[Will Compton]

Now let me ask you this.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes, sir.

[Will Compton]

When it is a stud.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

The thick part. You don't need nothing.

[Clay Matthews]

Nothing.

[Will Compton]

That's where you just go the screw right through it.

[Clay Matthews]

Now, if you're doing. If you're doing. If you're hanging something really heavy, you got to get some blocking in between those two by fours.

[Will Compton]

Okay?

[Clay Matthews]

So horizontal. Don't just say things, all right? Okay.

[Will Compton]

Don't.

[Clay Matthews]

He said don't. Just. Hey, put some blocking in there. Right? We take our garage organization seriously.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Nothing worse than a garage where stuff's just sitting in the corner. I want the walls on the. Wait till you get the bikes on the ceilings.

[Will Compton]

That is what I'm looking into next. Now, I don't have a lot of bikes. I just got ruse bike. But I do want to hang it because I hate seeing the clutter all around the garage.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, you know what I bought is. I just bought a. Like a bike stand. You know, like ones you'd have at the school.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

We got a few children at the house. Like, we just put mom and dad's bikes and the three Gotcha just in that. It just keeps it a little tidier than putting it on the ceiling because then you're always gonna have to get it down.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. Send us a picture of your garage. We'll put it up.

[Clay Matthews]

We're moving right now, but I could.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we need a picture of Clay Matthews.

[Clay Matthews]

Garage is your. Did you get the ground fixed? Like, you can't just have bare concrete, right?

[Will Compton]

Oh, I got the. What. What is it?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that. Well, is it called epoxy or Epoxy?

[Will Compton]

That's. Yeah. Hypoxia.

[Clay Matthews]

Hypoxia. Hypoxia. Like a Mount Everest. Yeah. E. With the E. Epoxy.

[Will Compton]

I got some epoxy. You talk about the flooring, right?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Looks good.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Throw a little chip on it because

[Will Compton]

Sora Nex is coming in later this month. I'll have the rubber down on one side, but we'll get the.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm gonna talk to you with Sorenex. Okay?

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

My wife says. I got. I got the. The. The dumbbells. They're just. They're sticking out too far. I got 5 to 105 pound increment. She wants a vertical, you know, to. Because the space a little tight in the gym right now.

[Will Compton]

She doesn't like how It's.

[Clay Matthews]

It's too. It's taking up too much. Too much of a footprint.

[Will Compton]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

So I need sore next to come through. Help the kid out.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, we can get that worked on. Yeah, get that work.

[Clay Matthews]

I'd hate to go to Rogue, you know, and get something.

[Will Compton]

No, can't do Rogue. No Rogue.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm just saying, like, I'd hate to do that.

[Will Compton]

No, no Rogue.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

Communists do Rogue. You want a full blooded Americans.

[Clay Matthews]

So many shout outs. I love this. You guys just sit here and say what you like, and then they'll just come to you and just give you stuff. This is great. This is the whole point of having a podcast.

[Will Compton]

But, yeah, I was gonna say this is podcast thing. Like, we just. We sit around and.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Like, we got a phenomenal Russell Wilson interview coming up that I'm sure whoever's

[Clay Matthews]

tapped in, like, since I wasn't a part of it, can I. I know the viewers have to wait. I don't want to. How to go. What are we talking about? His entire career, getting there as like a third rounder, beating out Matt Flynn, who they gave a bunch of money to. We didn't play the Super Bowl. We only throw in the pass.

[Will Compton]

Yep. We only had 45 minutes with him, but I walked away from that interview having a new perspective and appreciate. Yeah. Yeah. Respect for Russell Wilson. Not that I didn't have any, but he even called us on. He's like, I know you guys have talked on me.

[Unknown Guest]

Clay, how long in this interview of 45 minutes do you think it took Will Compton to bring up that he picked off Russell Wilson? How many minutes in, do you think?

[Clay Matthews]

And there's a 45 minute. I mean, probably three and a half to five minutes on the nose.

[Will Compton]

Three and a half.

[Unknown Guest]

It was. I think it was three minutes in. In my time, because I had three minutes.

[Will Compton]

I told him, I said, you're one of my three.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that's what. You're just one of my three.

[Russell Wilson]

And then Russ is like, cool, I juked you out or something.

[Will Compton]

He said something.

[Clay Matthews]

He.

[Will Compton]

He tripped. Yeah, he tried saying he, like, juked me or something like that, but maybe, who knows?

[JP]

And in the clip, I just. I made it. And then it just kind of goes into some of your highlights against the. Against the Seahawks, and you have this nice tackle on beast mode that not a lot of people are talking about.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey.

[JP]

Hey. You found.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[JP]

You found that left foot. Clipped his ankle down. Nobody else got him.

[Will Compton]

They just.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know what the script is, but who for the Show. But who? I love having this conversation. Who was the most difficult running back for you to tackle? Because you talked about beast mode.

[Will Compton]

It was look, look, look up. Running back for the Browns in2015 or 16. No, no, no. Crowell.

[Unknown Guest]

You're really gonna sit here and not say Melvin Gordon.

[JP]

He didn't put his hands on him.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I couldn't get my hands on Mel Gordon. No. But I would. But I would say, like, as far as, like, feeling was cruel and Chubb, the dudes from the Browns. Three trunks he has for legs. You felt it as you're, like, slipping down the tackle.

[Clay Matthews]

We played. I mean, obviously, playing the NFC north, like Adrian Peterson, I say, was by far the best back I've ever played against. You do it all. They didn't really pass to him out of the backfield, but, like, he could. He could hit the perimeter. You know, he. He could be patient. And then getting him. He'll run you over. Hurdle you was incredible. But money Marshall, I'm sure, because you face AP too.

[Will Compton]

Like, in his heyday, I. I never. You fortunately, never had to go against it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he was a dog. But Marshawn. Marshawn, he was tough to bring down.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, Marshawn was tough.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. You catch him in the hole, and he was just shoot already. And then you try and get him down. He just wouldn't go down. He was just. He's probably the most difficult for me to get down. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But the couple I remember just, like, falling down and, like, just remembering the feeling. It was like Cruell and Nick Chubb.

[Clay Matthews]

Interesting. What about quarterbacks to sack? Which one was your most difficult?

[Will Compton]

I mean, I only had one. Sam Bradford.

[JP]

Who'd you get closer to?

[Clay Matthews]

That was your sack. Sam Bradford.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, that was my one sag.

[Clay Matthews]

He didn't even move, that man.

[Will Compton]

No, not. I hit the dab and everything. Big play is a massive celebration. Who did I get close to? I don't know. None of them. I always hated being, like, a free runner because I always felt like they could just. They could, like, make a move.

[Clay Matthews]

I. I don't.

[Will Compton]

Do you know what I'm talking about? They kind of know that you're coming.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, I'll tell you what.

[Will Compton]

Like, not get tackled.

[Clay Matthews]

No.

[Will Compton]

Hey, but it's like. But when you're getting coached on it, it's like, oh, take away the upfield, or you got to approach him this way. And it's just like, bro, what makes

[Clay Matthews]

you a great tackler in the box? Especially on quarterbacks, pass rushers, breaking down. You Know, taking away their upfield. There's a. There's a technique to. To tackling quarterbacks and not just, you know, selling out and missing lowering your, you know, pad level. Like, you actually want to grab them. Almost like a lion takes down its prey. You want to, like, jump on their back and bring them down.

[Russell Wilson]

But.

[Clay Matthews]

But I hated open field tackles because I. My whole life was pass rushing. So you're in this little box, everything's quick, twitch. You're. You know, you're trying to grab people. You're working off fights, and then you're open field, and you're like this.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Because then when you get off a block, you're. You're relatively close to the quarterback.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, shoot your shot. You're like, nah, you got to break down. Then you get embarrassed, and you're like, where's my help at?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Or you break down too much, and your feet stop and. Yeah, they're pausing the footage right there. Y. I feel you, bro. Who's your hardest. Who's your hardest quarterback?

[Clay Matthews]

To sack all the Big B. Big Ben wore such a baggy jersey that if you could hold on to it, you could get him down. But probably Cam Cam or, like, Cam Cam was tough. I missed, like, a few sacks on him.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he.

[Clay Matthews]

He was just so big.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I mean, just a stud of an athlete.

[Clay Matthews]

Just shrugged. I got out. I got after Mike Vic a few times. Oh, no, not like a neck. No, there was.

[Will Compton]

That's awesome.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I mean, Mike still might.

[Clay Matthews]

Mike Vick, he. And forgive me, because, like I said, I know I was a guest, but in week one in 2010, we were playing the Philadelphia Eagles in their Kelly green uniform uniforms, and Kevin Cobb was the quarterback, and I. I. You know, I get a sack on him, he hits his head on the turf, and then Mike Vick comes in, and, dude, this guy went off on us like that. That set up Mike Vick to get his payday and to be the starting quarterback. We ended up seeing him in the playoffs. So I got one sack on him then, and I got another sack on him in the playoffs. But just chasing him was a nightmare. I mean, he was. And I grew up watching this guy. You know what I'm saying? It was like this. I was. I sacked him one time. What's up, Mike Vic, you know, I try to help him up and what? Same with Brett Favre. I mean, he wasn't obviously the athlete, but I was always helping him out. Yeah, I just. I had a level of respect and appreciation for a lot of the guys.

[Will Compton]

Did you play Madden growing up?

[Clay Matthews]

I was a 2k guy. A Dreamcast, a game cast.

[Will Compton]

2k was nice once upon a time.

[Clay Matthews]

Got the reference.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, 2k was nice once upon a time, but I'm remembering. What was it? Madden 04 when Vic was just Chico'd. Yeah, Nasty.

[JP]

He inspired a whole generation of young sports fans.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, he did.

[Clay Matthews]

To. Yes, Clay. Sorry, just saying that, man. No, he was. Yeah, he was always very complimentary. Quiet but just a stud back there.

[JP]

Yeah, I don't think it's talked enough. Like the fact that he was able to just be away from the league for two years and then come back and bring a team to the playoffs.

[Will Compton]

Like that's insane. That's the first.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, I just. I just saw something where he still has the fastest 40 time of all quarterbacks.

[Will Compton]

Really?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I think there was a quarterback who ran the fastest over the weekend. Oh yeah, but they were mentioned like Mike Vic ran. I'm making it up. 4, 3, 9, something crazy like that, which is wild.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, there was a cat that ran

[Clay Matthews]

in Arkansas, ran a four three right, four three, seven.

[Russell Wilson]

He's huge.

[JP]

He got number one like on out of the combine and all positions they were talking about.

[Will Compton]

Teams are. We're probably going to come up to him and start talking about receiver like he should obviously. Shut it.

[Clay Matthews]

Raiders will take him number one to the Jets. Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Did you play against Vic in like that first game back where he threw

[Clay Matthews]

it 90 yards to Desean?

[Will Compton]

No, I was on P squad. I remember watching it because that was the first iteration of Chip Kelly's offense coming into the league and they whooped us and you thought damn, the spread might just take the league by storm and obviously it got figured out and everything else. But I remember that first game, that bomb that Vic threw to desean Jackson and just the no huddle and everything. Like the boys were in a blender.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Fletcher out there in his last year, just a blender. D' Angelo Hall.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Good times, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Great times.

[Will Compton]

Shout out the P squad. What other headlines were coming out of the. Coming out of the combine, you see our boy Diego Pavia hit the backflip.

[Clay Matthews]

I did see that.

[Will Compton]

And come out with an unbelievable quote.

[Clay Matthews]

Did he shoot up? What was his quote? I'm sorry?

[Will Compton]

His quote was that his. Your frontal.

[Unknown Guest]

Your frontal lobe doesn't develop to your 25 and he just turned 24 so he has 360 days to get basically on track.

[Clay Matthews]

That's great. Yeah, that's called upside when we draft somebody. Upside. You look at his game type tape and his upside.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Are we thinking where. Where is he? Where's he being projected?

[Will Compton]

I don't know.

[Clay Matthews]

I.

[Will Compton]

My personal thought is I feel like he'll be like six, seven round guy, maybe undrafted free agent.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I don't know what the boards have him as. Where'd Stetson Bennett get drafted? I feel like that's a good.

[Clay Matthews]

He's with the Rams, Right. Never talk about Stetson, but he walked away for like a year. He had some, like, mental health stuff going on.

[Russell Wilson]

Going on?

[Clay Matthews]

Well, he's got Johnny Manzel mentoring him, so.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, but it's. It's the. The. The frontal cortex is not fully developed, so maybe once that gets developed, it'll be some. I like to picture him and Johnny Manzel like them. Johnny mentoring him. Like they're just in a room playing like Rockham Sockum Robots or something.

[JP]

It's like a Theo von podcast.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[JP]

Just every day for him and Manzel.

[Clay Matthews]

Johnny was electric, man. So my cousin, electric. My cousin Jake, who stood with the Falcons, he was on that team. And my cousin Mike, for that matter, they were like left tackle, left guard and. Or maybe Luke Joker, whatever. I'm going down there. But, man, I used to. Yeah, I would tune in to watch them, and I remember that was it the Alabama game where they were up like 28, three early. Then it was like they came back and it was back and forth. I mean, it was electric. It was a. It's a great game to go back and watch.

[Will Compton]

Johnny Manziel was such a stud, man. And for Diego to talk about Johnny being a mentor, hopefully there's just more. There's other people that he's getting advice from as well. Not to like on Johnny. I'm just saying when you look at the. What happened with Johnny, and if Diego's saying, like, I'm essentially like a Johnny Manziel coming out of college in this way, I would ultimately be. My advice would be like, dude, be cautious about that.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, I choose to think. Think optimistically and positively about, you know, because Johnny, I think he's done a lot of interviews, podcasting lately, where he has, I think, been honest about his time in Cleveland and. And kind of what went down. And, you know, he wish he would have done things differently, which actually could be very beneficial to Diego based on perceived or actual, you know, transgressions. Whether it's inter. Whether it's the, you know, interview process, whether it's the Heisman, whether it's the club, like, you know.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, no, you're right in process because he taught. He was vulnerable with us on, on this show. Show. And again, fan of Johnny Menzel. I'm just saying, if you're a young cat coming out, getting mentoring and everything else, like, I would just say, especially if you look at Johnny Manziel too, like, over the last year, there's been a couple things that comes out about him where he's like, on, you know, going and partying, benders, like, all the stuff that essentially Diego kind of, you know, gravitates towards when it comes to off the field stuff that comes out with Diego. I'm just saying be careful. Be careful.

[Clay Matthews]

Careful. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Because everything matters. You know, going through the draft process and all this team, all the teams, they have you under a microscope and everything that you do matters.

[Clay Matthews]

Did you do any other workouts for teams or, like, did anyone come out? Like, how does I. Since you weren't invited? I know for us it was like, you go to the combine, there might be a few teams, especially with the, you know, we had all these linebackers coming out of USC and just players in general, like, you know, Tampa came out, the Redskins came. Yeah. Did you.

[Will Compton]

The Bengals came. The Bengals came and, like, had me on the whiteboard, did stuff like that. Watch film. The pagers came, did stuff on the whiteboard, watch film. But I never did. I didn't do, like, workouts for a team.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay.

[Will Compton]

They never, they never came after. And then I took one pre draft visit, which was to the Cincinnati Bengals. They did like a psychology test, personality.

[Clay Matthews]

How was it you didn't want to go there?

[Will Compton]

It was like, dude, there's facilities were dog. And then I see all the report card stuff coming out with teams and I see that they're still kind of just dog. And the Cincinnati Bengals have been dog for the longest time.

[Clay Matthews]

How about the report? Have you guys talked about the report cards?

[Will Compton]

Have not. Have not. I see that they're trying to do away with them with. I think. Which I think is. It's like, hey, this is, this is feedback that the players are giving, that the players are giving teams in every area.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. The owners just don't want to be criticized. But when you're like the Miami Dolphins or the Minnesota Vikings, you know, you're like, hell, yeah, we got a good. We run this thing operationally the right way. And it's, you know, their players and whomever else votes on it, they talk about, about that. But there's a reason why, you know, the organizations at the bottom or ones you looked at, I I want to say maybe it was the jets. Like one of them, one of these organizations, they like, went up from bottom to like top five or something. Oh, it was the Commanders. Yeah, it was the commanders. Yeah, they went. They went up. New ownership. They probably took that feedback.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Dude, if you're an organization and you want to win, like you are obsessed with figuring out ways to win, then you want any feedback you can get from the, the, from, from the players, from the organization, from the personnel, whatever it is you want that feedback, no matter how much. It's like, okay, we can take this for a grain of salt, but ultimately just look at it from the big picture perspective, like zooming out and be like, hey, it seems like we can get better in these areas. Yeah, but you know, they wanna. Yeah, it's like, bottom line, they don't want to be criticized.

[Clay Matthews]

Litigate.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, it could be a boys club happening where guys have jobs because of X, Y and Z.

[Clay Matthews]

Criticized. Yeah, yeah, they like to be. They like to buy islands. You know what I'm saying? And yachts. Islands and yachts and like other big airplanes. Yeah, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Files.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Distracted.

[Will Compton]

So I get distracted. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Good show.

[Will Compton]

I got a shout out. Great show. Great show. Great show.

[Clay Matthews]

And with that salary cap bumping up, how much did it go up again? 42 mil.

[Will Compton]

What are guys even like?

[Clay Matthews]

It's insane.

[Will Compton]

I mean, I see all the big contracts.

[JP]

What's.

[Will Compton]

What's the minimum at now in the NFL?

[Clay Matthews]

When I got to the league, it was like 3, 325.

[Will Compton]

My first year was like 420.

[Clay Matthews]

It's got. Is it over a million now?

[Will Compton]

Oh, my God. Minimum base salary for rookies, 840.

[Clay Matthews]

That's. That's okay with inflation.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, but that's awesome.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, is awesome.

[JP]

Well, you talk what odell said, like, 150 mil. 100 mil is not enough to last.

[Will Compton]

You do what?

[Clay Matthews]

What's up?

[Will Compton]

Hang on, hang on, hang on. He was doing. Odell said $100 million is not enough

[JP]

to last on the pivot. And he's not saying that he is broke, but he kind of breaks down. He's like, man, 150 mil. Like, people don't realize how fast it can go if you don't take care of it. You know, wipe out half for taxes. You buy mom a house.

[Will Compton]

House.

[JP]

You got people depending on you. Like, it's really. Not really. Not that much. And it took heat on the Internet, as it should. But yeah, it was a. It was a wild statement.

[Will Compton]

Odell Beckham Jr says 150 million is enough to live on. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's. Obviously, that's. That's Cap. That's.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, how do you want to live?

[Will Compton]

Sure. You could. You can. Yes, you can easily.

[Clay Matthews]

That might not be enough.

[Will Compton]

You can easily, I guess.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Burn $350 million.

[Clay Matthews]

I like OBJ. I know what he's saying.

[Will Compton]

I like OBJ too.

[Clay Matthews]

Saying you flying private everywhere. You're vacation and you're doing first class this and that, security, buying stuff like. Yeah, you will tear through. That's how you hear these stories all the time of people going broke. It's just not taking care of your money.

[Will Compton]

Not thinking long term.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Because. What. How old were you when you got out? I was 33.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I was 31. Well, yeah, 31, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. I've been unemployed ever since. Yeah, it's tough Will hired you. I guess. You kind of did.

[Will Compton]

There you go.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, thanks, brother. Appreciate it.

[Will Compton]

150, though. That's.

[Clay Matthews]

Nah, that's a lot of money.

[Will Compton]

That. That's. That's hard to run through.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm just amazed at the salary cap. Like, I hate to play these games, but you think about, like, all right, when my dad played in the league, you had X amount of dollars. And even when I played early in my career, like, the salary cap went up nominally. You know, it went up just like a few million dollars to where like a. A salary would go up a hundred thousand dollars to be the next highest paid. Now we're going up 4, 5, 6 million dollars in between the new. The next highest paid. You look, we talked about this. You look at the pass rushers. I think Max Crosby was the first to sign this past offseason at 40 million. Micah Parsons, right before the season started. 47 million. 7 million dollar gap. That's in just a couple months, which was unheard. I mean, 7 million to. Would have taken 15, 20 years to do that based. But I mean, that's just. It's. It just shows you how much the game has grown and how big the NFL is and sales and whatnot. International.

[Will Compton]

It's just crazy in my brain that the minimum's like double.

[Clay Matthews]

So now you're thinking, if you would have played in today's age, you have double your money. Yeah, we could get that double decker bus.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we get that double marketplace baked bread in college, too. Now that.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't have got any. You probably would have got.

[Will Compton]

I would have got some money.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I got some. Your senior year, Clay.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. You what are you talking about, man?

[Clay Matthews]

No, not my senior year.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you would have.

[Clay Matthews]

I was playing, but there were some big dogs.

[Will Compton]

No, you, you. There would have been big dogs to where you're like, damn, I should be.

[Clay Matthews]

I would have gotten the crumbs.

[Will Compton]

You didn't got a couple hundred thousand dollars.

[Clay Matthews]

No way.

[Will Compton]

I promise, bro. The stuff, the stuff that I hear about these, I'm talking like, you know how it's like skills, semi and then the line, the old lineman D line, like semi positions like tight ends, linebackers, like guys who are on like the two deep are getting like several hundred thousand dollars. Which. That's. Yeah, that's awesome.

[Clay Matthews]

I just think it's interesting when I have these conversations with parents about like nil versus like, you know, I mean I'm like for me just you know, being a walk on even to you to a certain extent, you know, being a free agent, like it has helped develop who you are because you had to grind, you had to go for it. You could. There was no easy way out. And it's like, everybody can transfer. Now you're going to chase the biggest dollar. Like, where does the resiliency come in? I'm, I'm curious if there's a way to quantify that metric of like, you know, how the transferring and taking the money and like versus that. How does that affect the athlete? How does that affect the person, the mental. It's really tough to quantify that is all I'm saying.

[Will Compton]

Let's just say your boys, they're obsessed with playing football and they got it when they get to high school, you're legitimately going to think like the thought process, I feel like now in high school is how do you leverage yourself, whether it's the school or the team that you're on, whatever it is, things that you do on social media or off the field to where you leverage as much nil money as you can before you even get to the school.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, you're right. And they have those, those bulletin boards in the NFL locker, maybe even high school or college saying the percentage of, you know, boys who play high school ball, who go on to college, D1 who play in the NFL, it always gets, you know,.01%. So like, yeah, you got to go get your money now because that's going to give you a leg up when it's time to get a real job, work a 9 to 5 if you don't make it to the NFL or college or whatever it is. So that's, that's going to Be tough. Like, let's say your girls. I'll just, I'm going to put this, you know, they're. They're playing basketball. And who's rolling in the women's?

[JP]

South Carolina.

[Will Compton]

South Carolina.

[Clay Matthews]

Let's just say South Carolina and Nebraska. Nebraska. Well, I'm gonna remove your.

[Will Compton]

Okay, I was gonna say Nebraska. Women's volleyball.

[Clay Matthews]

Right. Okay. And like, you know, hey, we want to give a million dollars to this or we want to give you like two to go to this school. Like, that's tough right there because you're thinking like, that's life changing money.

[Will Compton]

I know.

[Clay Matthews]

But at the same token, like, it's got to be tough because if you have a school, like, hey, we want to. I'm making up schools. I don't mean to diminish anything. Like, hey, Alabama's gonna pay you 5 million for your boy to go here, but 8 million to go to University of Maine or something like that. You're like, all right, well, you know, that's a lot of money. But we're also thinking big picture here, getting to the next level.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know. It's tough.

[Will Compton]

The way I always managed my money, too. It's like, you just, you like my hope for. Let's just say it's Rue, and Rue is in that spot. My hope would be that, like, if I could find ways to get the paranoia inside of her as this money's coming in.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You know what I mean?

[Clay Matthews]

It's tough.

[Will Compton]

I thought about so long term, that's like, no, I'm telling you, this is not how it works.

[Clay Matthews]

I talk about that with my wife all the time. Like, you know, raising kids when you have the means is difficult.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Clay Matthews]

Because they're comfortable. So how do you push them to get out of their comfort zone? It's not like you're going to send them to a different school or you're going to take away this and that. Like, we drive a nice car, you know, they go to a nice school. Like, you have devices. It's. It's tough. It is tough being a parent.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, dude.

[Clay Matthews]

But especially when you, you know, I feel like for me, going off to SC when I was a walk on, like, that took me from Silver Spoon to like, oh, this is how it works. And like, I'm not allowed to quit. I'm not allowed to come home and, you know, like, you, you had to. You had to figure it out.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Take something like that. But guess we'll just cross that bridge when we get there. I know dude, dude, until then, we'll keep dominating this flag football.

[Will Compton]

Speaking of, with usc, we were talking about the. The combine. Was it Malachi? Malachi. Lemon.

[Russell Wilson]

Maai.

[Clay Matthews]

Maai.

[Will Compton]

Makai. Lemon.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Maai. Lemon.

[Clay Matthews]

Dog.

[Will Compton]

Little sweet and low.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know, bro. That's just gangster right there, you know what I'm saying? Just letting know I'm about to put the.

[Will Compton]

I'm about to put the league on

[Clay Matthews]

those Jettis, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, bro, he's going top 10.

[Will Compton]

I feel you. I feel you.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that's SC boy right there. Like, he's gonna do his thing.

[Will Compton]

That. That SC zest.

[Clay Matthews]

Zest or not, bro. Yay. We got some killers over there in sc, too.

[Will Compton]

He's a dog.

[Clay Matthews]

He'll get it one day.

[JP]

Yeah, when the clip comes out.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, when the clip comes out.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Now I'm trying to figure it out.

[JP]

They got some killers at usc, man. They got dogs there.

[Clay Matthews]

Allegedly.

[Russell Wilson]

Allegedly.

[Clay Matthews]

Allegedly.

[Will Compton]

You talking about O.J.

[Clay Matthews]

I. I, like. I love Sanchez, too, but I gotta. You know what I'm saying? That's my dog. Hey, that's a clay base.

[Will Compton]

His opinion. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Let's say how this.

[Will Compton]

You feel like you'll get caught up in doing AI for your. For your boys with their highlight tapes,

[Clay Matthews]

brother, that was wild. So one of you guys posted that, and you're like, which one of these is AI? And so I'm watching. I think there's one. There's one clip where the end zone right here. Like, I'm like, I've never heard of the fan. Like, that's got to be AI. And then all of them were fake.

[Will Compton]

I didn't know that the whole. All the clips were fake. I thought it was like, you know, dude who throws the ball, like, it's just the. The football in the air. That's AI.

[Clay Matthews]

Some of the tackles. I'm like, that looks fake.

[Will Compton]

Terrible.

[Clay Matthews]

Then I was just like. And what's great is, like, the tape is grainy, so you can kind of get away with it a little bit. Like, if I would have had this, I might have gotten a scholarship back in the day, you know, Snuck in a couple AI clips.

[Will Compton]

I mean, like, all the.

[Clay Matthews]

That's remarkable.

[Will Compton]

All the coaches are gonna. There's gonna be the relationships with the high school coach. They're gonna know if it's real or fake. Now, I could see. You know what? I could see Lane Kiffin grab and knowing he's grabbing an AI video and be like, I need this kid. Gotta get this kid. To lsu. Just kind of trolling everybody.

[JP]

Then dabo falls for it.

[Clay Matthews]

Offers the kid more money, brings him to Clemson, brings him in. He's a bum. Gets mad at Lane. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

That stuff is nuts, though.

[Clay Matthews]

The whole.

[Will Compton]

The AI world itself is. Is crazy. I think I saw Brad Pitt and Christian Bale fighting.

[Clay Matthews]

Was it Tom Cruise?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. Brad Pitt, Cruise, like, fighting on this.

[Clay Matthews]

How long until they're making movies? Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise. I don't know. Shia LaBeouf wins. Well, you say. I heard Shia LaBeouf.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Shiloh. Fighting famous actors.

[Clay Matthews]

We didn't know.

[Will Compton]

Hey, Shiloh.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, leave my man alone, all right? He's just out there chilling Mardi Gras on Bourbon Street. Like, I didn't want. He didn't want to get groped. You know what I'm saying?

[Will Compton]

He watched that stuff scares me.

[Clay Matthews]

You know, the. For you tab. It kind of knows me. My algorithm.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Fire. It was great interview.

[Will Compton]

The Shia LaBeouf. The clips are so funny.

[Clay Matthews]

What would you say to Jesus? Nothing.

[Will Compton]

I kiss it. I kiss his feet. He said, what are you talking about? Knowing the Bible, he's like, what does it say? He's like, nah, whatever that is. Like, I, you know, I'm that. I guess I'm that.

[Clay Matthews]

He does have great motivational. Just do it. When you go back and watch it now, you're like, hey, it makes sense.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, just do it. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

What's this right here?

[Will Compton]

This is our social producer Matt Malone, getting punked. Who is Beer league.

[Clay Matthews]

Which one are you in?

[Will Compton]

This was last night, 10pm wow.

[Clay Matthews]

Is that you, number 19?

[Will Compton]

No, I'm doing the purple helmet. I'm 10. I thought he was 77 in the light blue. This guy coming in, that's Taylor Juan right there.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't even see you, Matt. Are you on the side?

[Will Compton]

That's the dude who gets beat up. Oh, what? I didn't get beat up. I got jumped by three dudes.

[Clay Matthews]

Bro, take your skate off and cut someone. Come on, bro.

[Will Compton]

Okay, That's a nice. So my push in the back because your boy was cross checked in the face. So then I. It was kind of scumbag of me. I cross checked him in the back, but I was just pissed. We were down 30 in the playoffs, third period.

[Clay Matthews]

That's him. That. That's you skating up and checking him?

[Will Compton]

Yeah. And then I get jumped by three of those dudes, and that was kind of a scummy move to just.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Go right into his.

[Russell Wilson]

But he did it.

[Will Compton]

He did it to his Face. My boy's face. So, like, whatever. But yeah, it was scummy. I actually texted. I texted one of the guys and apologized, but hey, God, he got pretty heated. Our playoff game. Beer league. Yeah, that's why I said that. You know, that's not me because I was actually friendly with the guys all game. I was like, we're getting steamrolled. It is what it is.

[Clay Matthews]

Problem with today's athletes, they want to be friends in social media and whatnot. Like, that's the. This is why the Ben Johnson, Matt La Flor thing's perfect. Yeah, Segue boys. You know what I'm saying? Great. Segue like Ben Johnson. Like, we're not supposed to be friends. M floor has no idea what's happening right now.

[Matt Rogers]

I guess.

[Russell Wilson]

Hey, what is my name?

[Clay Matthews]

I guess we're in a beef, but. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I guess we're in a beef. I got kicked out. You got kicked out of the game? Yeah, I got kicked out of the game. Actually, I'm going to check right now if I got my suspension beat up. One of my boys got suspended there before. Yeah, no, no suspension of now. But I'll be checking the email. Mitch lifted, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

Mitch, it was a great. You brought your hips into it. And then he stood on business. That little. That buddy didn't want any. I saw it. No, he.

[Russell Wilson]

He thought he wanted some smoke, but then I had.

[Clay Matthews]

I was like, I'm about it.

[Russell Wilson]

About it.

[Clay Matthews]

You lowered your shoulder on him about it. He lowered his shoulder into me. We didn't see that on the film, though. So you can. If you slow it down, you're able to see it. It gotta control good form. Shackle, too.

[Will Compton]

That's what I'm saying.

[Russell Wilson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Will Compton]

Interm sports is like, that's all we got now. Yeah, that's all we have.

[Clay Matthews]

So we all we got. Look, watch this.

[Will Compton]

Watch this.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know. Mitch, he just was running straight, put his shoulder down.

[Will Compton]

Flag. This flag football he's got to do is pull the flag, but hey, that's

[Unknown Guest]

different weight classes, too. Mitch shouldn't be punching down like that.

[Russell Wilson]

Dang.

[Will Compton]

The form tackle coming out of his play over.

[Clay Matthews]

No, he put his shoulder into me like I was waiting for him to make a move.

[Will Compton]

Did he put his shoulder into you? I think he just kind of leaned forward.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he just leaned forward. Okay. Clay, your son plays flag. Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

You know how it works when you're. When you're trying to like, make a move at, like coming up to somebody you're gonna go side to side. He just tries to go through me.

[Clay Matthews]

Let me see this. Slow mo. He didn't lower his shoulder, but he was just. He covered. He covered the ball up. Like you're getting, like you're putting the shoulder down. I mean, listen, I can see it both ways. I hope your suspension got reduced to like a, you know, like this was

[Russell Wilson]

like three or four months ago. I only got suspended for a game.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, I was hoping for a half, but game. She seems a bit egregious.

[Will Compton]

But let's get into some tear talk. You want to get featured on the show? Comments. YouTube comments. I found some. I. A couple good. I had a couple good laughs from last week's episode with Patrick Willis that I'll read. But let's do some, some tear talk with the Internet. Which one, which one do we want to hit here? Okay. This one is from AT UFC Batman. This is Dom Box Steeler Hatfield. Hashtag tear talk. When is the time you've experienced Stadium Pulse, whether on the field or in day to day life?

[Russell Wilson]

That's a good question.

[Will Compton]

I was experiencing it last night with Rue Stadium Pulse. Like we're talking big moment. I was thinking more where I had to keep my composure because she dropped the crowns all over the floor sitting the hallway help pick them up. Then she wanted to do the band aid by herself. She gets out the band aid box. All the band aids fall over the floor. This is all right before within a five minute span. And so I'm having to keep my composure. But I guess I wouldn't call that like Stadium Pulse.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, real. So I'm sorry, I. I understand the reference, but Stadium Pulse, is that like when you're flustered or is that when we've experienced that actually playing like flustered

[Will Compton]

flustered in a big moment?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[JP]

I'm in the workroom with my dad. He's asking me to hand him tools when I'm six years old. I don't know what tools they are.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[JP]

And I know whatever I hand him next could be the end of my. Of my weekend.

[Clay Matthews]

That's just an example that actually happened because it sounds like we got to talk about this.

[JP]

We did see a hilarious meme the other day. It's like when your dad says to come outside and this is what's in the driveway and it's just a truck bed full of mulch.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh.

[Unknown Guest]

I. I've never experienced this personally, but I know we've got a handful of guys that are married on this bus. I can imagine if y' all Chose the route where you have to ask your future wife's father for your hand in marriage. That's got to be high stadium.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. I'm trying to think of, like, the last of couple, couple weeks if I felt like a stadium pulse moment. Yeah. Every day I'm feeling some type of stress, raising kids.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you feel it every day. That cortisol level. You go see your doctor for that annual. Hey, blood pressure is a little higher. You're like, buddy, you've got no idea.

[JP]

Maybe waking up late, missing ballet. You wake up.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, stadium post. That was last weekend. Immediate stadium pulse. How are we going to handle this situation? We failed at getting her to ballet class. Now I'm talking to her. She's bummed that she didn't go to ballet class. She wants the ballet buns. She wants to do a class. We get the ballet bun going. That's a stadium pulse in itself. Trying to get the ballet ballet bun right. Watching YouTube videos and then setting up the living room. Throw her on a ballet class, stadium post back down to zero. Or honestly, watching Rue. She wants to climb something bigger, taller, like a. Like one of the walls at the playground. There's like a stadium pulse of me watching her doing it because I'm nervous. Like, man, do I need to be right there. But you don't want to be a helicopter parent. You need to kind of let her fail on her own. I kind of don't want. If she does fall, I think she's going to fall. Like, do I need to be close? I need to remain back and let her learn on her own.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Stadium pulse.

[Russell Wilson]

Stud finder.

[Will Compton]

Oh.

[Clay Matthews]

All of a sudden, you. You drill into some conduit, power goes out. Does the yak turn on or not?

[Will Compton]

The ganner. Yeah, Stadium post to get the gannerak going.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, we got to get you a cola. We gotta get you a cola. Wisconsin made. Isn't that right, Matt? I mean, you have to pay for it, but, like, yeah, I could hook you up. Yeah. But hey, you ever been to. You guys. You've ever been to Kohler, Wisconsin? Great little town, close to Whistling Straits. Whistling Straits, Black Wolf Run. You stay at the American Club down there.

[Will Compton]

You've been to Whistling Trades Clay?

[Clay Matthews]

I mean, I've seen it, but, like, I'm not a big golfer.

[Will Compton]

We had breakfast there right before the.

[Clay Matthews]

What was beautiful.

[Will Compton]

What was that golf tournament with. What's America versus Europe?

[Clay Matthews]

It's.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, right before the Ryder Cups. They had it set up. Beautiful.

[Russell Wilson]

It is beautiful.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

When we were In Wisconsin. And we wanted to celebrate. We'd be out there for OTAs. We wanted to celebrate Mother's Day or whatnot. We drive on down through Sheboygan, you know, and Oshkosh over there, too. Oshkosh. Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Wait, your boy? Yeah. Your Boygan's dad down there? Yeah. Do a little fishing on the bagel.

[Will Compton]

Beautiful.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, man.

[Will Compton]

Is that the American Club?

[Clay Matthews]

That's the American Club right there.

[Will Compton]

Looks like a good club.

[Clay Matthews]

It used to be an old carriage house, and they converted it over. People are great.

[Will Compton]

Stadium pulse. Your first grill of the season with some ribeyes.

[Unknown Guest]

Really just grilling for a group of people.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

Especially if you got some, like, new guys coming over and they're like, don't

[Matt Rogers]

worry, I got you.

[Unknown Guest]

We got some extra stakes. And then all of a sudden, this guy, he's talking about medium rare. He's talking about season. You go, oh, this guy knows this thing around.

[Clay Matthews]

You're just gonna get what you get. Yeah. You're like, cut on the out, cut on the inside. It's a little bit more rare than on the outside. That's how it goes. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Stadium pulse. Like, you know, your wife isn't gonna be in the mood, but, you know, you're going for it anyway.

[Clay Matthews]

I get shut down quick. I don't know. I mean, there's. I'm just used to failure there.

[Will Compton]

But when, you know. But when. But when, you know, you're not accepting failure, Whatever strategy you're coming up with. I feel like stadium pulse.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. You're waiting for me to say something like, oh, I don't know. I'm just always smooth. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's always. I always got a resolution. Next one.

[Will Compton]

Hashtag tear talk from Devin Grover. What are the best audible play calls that you've heard? For instance, Omaha or Ric Flair.

[Clay Matthews]

Like that. A quarterback.

[Will Compton]

I said, knowing that a quarterback. The first time hearing that they do salt and pepper. If it was me and Mason Foster out there, white and black, or Erlacher, Briggs, Butkus or another guy, it was.

[Clay Matthews]

It wasn't until later in my career, probably. You probably got a benefit from this. But the centers had to put a mic on, so that way, you know, the. The viewer at home can hear the experience a little bit more. But that's what would give away the Omahas, the salt, pepper, whatever it is. So we would come in on Wednesday or whatever it was before meetings start, we would listen to the TV copy, and we put together, you know, hey, this. If they call this. It's this if they call this. But obviously they're self scout. I'm sure they change it week to week, but just little things to tap into. So.

[Will Compton]

Yes, I thought you were saying there's a mic straight on, like the center wore a mic. Because you're talking about TV copy. Yeah, like you're hearing the inside of like the, the cockpit.

[Clay Matthews]

I think the centers do have to wear a mic. I'm not, I'm not 100 certain.

[Will Compton]

Wouldn't that be like the camera up above?

[Clay Matthews]

It's those things that you see when they're holding those. No, because this is so much better from. I don't know.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you're right on.

[Clay Matthews]

Because I heard. I remember a rod talking about Aaron Rodgers talking about that, saying like, he hated that because naturally if you're scouting your opponent, you listen to the TV copy as well as, like, you know, look at the signs, you know that they're giving receivers or, you know, they've switching size and the middle of the play.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, bro. Because TV copy does help. Yeah, dude, I'll, I'll give you. I'll give you one.

[Clay Matthews]

Here, give me something.

[Will Compton]

2015, Washington at Chicago. We needed to keep them out of field goal range or they were around field goal range, but chances of them making it was very slim. We had to get off the field. On third down, we called a zero. Pressure mugged up double A gaff. So we're. We're bringing the house at zero. And Cutler makes a check at the line of scrimmage. Folsom, Folsom. Folsom. And right there from knowing TV copy. Jailbreak. Break, screen.

[Clay Matthews]

Prison. It's gotta be.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, Folsom was there left, so. All right, Folsom was there left in prison was their word for the right side. But we had just went over prison because we didn't hear what Folsom would be. But coaches are sitting there giving you tips like it could be Folsom came up in it. And so once you were at Folsom, we were just. I'm screaming, screen, screen, screen. Dudes don't even rush. They just attack the side, get the tackle. Worth celebrating. They missed the field goal or they might have tried to attempt it. We win the fucking game because of you.

[Clay Matthews]

You should have been MVP that game.

[Will Compton]

Jason Hatcher comes up to me because he played with the Cowboys for like nine, ten years before he came to Washington. And he would always tell me he'd be around me during practice. It'd be like, what would Shawn Lee do? So WWS SLD is what he'd always say. And he's like. He comes over the silent grass. He's like, that's what I'm talking about. That's what Sean Lee would do in that situation. Because Sean Lee, I mean, he was

[Clay Matthews]

speaking a great line. I mean, he just kind of. He had some injuries, right?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Back concussions.

[Will Compton]

Concussions. Hamstring. He was.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. When I was playing, he was always in the middle, Roman.

[Will Compton]

But, man, when he was on the field and he was playing, that dude put his face in the fan.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I see.

[Will Compton]

I had all the concussions that he did have. Dude was a. He wrecked shop.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I loved watching.

[Clay Matthews]

I mean, Dallas back in the day. Tony Romo, DeMarcus Ware, they had another, like, a three technique or a five. Big as hell.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

You'd have to say his name, but. Well, they were rolling. They were, right. Yeah. They had a team when Wade Phillips was coaching them.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. They ran that Tampa, too, where they'd pirate the three technique.

[Clay Matthews]

I just love watching demarcus Smith's pass rusher.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, he was a freak, too. His long ass arms.

[Clay Matthews]

And he had the neck roll on, too. Always. Like, he'd get on the field, he'd get paralyzed. Taken off the field and come back the next week and rip off three sacks.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know how he does it free. That's what happened. They took him off on a stretcher. I swear, he's back the next week, 21 sacks. I'm like, good grief.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

God.

[Will Compton]

What was Aaron's cadence?

[Clay Matthews]

What did he say? What was his hit? You gotta go. You gotta go on that Instagram where. Buddy. Buddy. Oh, he's got it down pat. Rogers Realm.

[Will Compton]

I thought in 2015 he was doing Windy's.

[Clay Matthews]

Didn't he use Wendy's dog? You know what I'm saying right now? I just know I knew his cadence on when he was gonna go on two or even three. Okay. All right, we.

[Will Compton]

We got another tear talk here from some dude named.

[Clay Matthews]

Good thing I didn't bite. Just like you.

[Will Compton]

If I became president, I'd eliminate daylight savings time. What's the first thing the boys would change if they were president? Tear talk. You guys got anything off the top?

[Clay Matthews]

Daylight savings is. You know why they used to do this, right? I think I'm correct. Crops, right? Yeah, for the crop. Like, it used to be extra time during the day.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

To, you know, harvest your crops, I believe. Fact check me. But. But now it's just like there's studies that show, like, you know, mental health and whatnot, when you have to wake up an hour earlier, whatever it is, just kind of throws you off a little bit.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we prioritize and we prioritize mental

[Clay Matthews]

health, probably crops at this point of our worlds. You know what I'm saying? What would I change, huh? You think you just open all the borders. I'm just trying to get, like, the juices flowing to get you talking. Just bring. Yeah, I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying, like, where do you think, like, build a northern wall? Like, I'm just, like, just staying.

[Will Compton]

Like, after Game of Thrones comes out. I do think you need to. You need to call something the wall, like, north of the wall and make Canada. Canada is now known as the White Walkers. You start having fun. You know what I mean?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Like, who cares? You're in there for four years, you're out. Like, someone's gonna.

[Will Compton]

If we're gonna make a move strategically, like, it's gonna be a. A live broadcast, you would probably. And. And the whole monitor is just gonna be a risk board.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

You know what I mean?

[Clay Matthews]

Do you think he would change the commanders back to the Redskins?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Httr. Eliminate celery from all menus. I take celery out, it's a waste of time. Celery is a waste of time.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, take. What about you, Clay, bro? I got no takes today. This is why I'm a better guest than I am a host.

[JP]

Maybe like, gas price, flat fee for gas. Stop all this.

[Will Compton]

Stop all the nonsense.

[JP]

Right? Just pick a number.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, you sound like you say a

[Will Compton]

lot of things people would just love.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you just want everything equal. Like, let's put a cap on earnings

[JP]

and yeah, for gas is the same health care, probably.

[Clay Matthews]

It's like a socialist society we live in.

[Will Compton]

Now you go back to segregating schools.

[JP]

Is that what you want, Clay?

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, one of us made up the all white squad, and one of us loves inclusion.

[Will Compton]

I honestly, I forgot to do the 20, 25 good candidates.

[JP]

Now that safety.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, yeah.

[Will Compton]

Which is funny. A lot of good milk in this rookie class coming up. A lot of good milk.

[Clay Matthews]

A lot of cream. The cream rises to the top. Always.

[Will Compton]

That's all somebody who wasn't golic seeing. Like, I see the. The exciting whites are multiplying after the. It was at the Oregon safety. Ran a. Ran a great time.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he. Is he projected to get drafted high just because he ran fast or what?

[Will Compton]

No clue. No clue. There's one Area I, I like. Hard for me to keep up with. It's just the new rookies that come in every year.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Where guys are rated, it's like you might know. It's. You know that Fernando Mendoza.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. I've got. Outside of him, I have no idea.

[Will Compton]

Like on the FanDuel app, he's minus 23 odds to get drafted first overall.

[Clay Matthews]

We should probably take that then.

[Will Compton]

But also, what if there's a plus odds guy out there where you take

[Clay Matthews]

a little shot because jets, jets might give up six first round picks.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, they could. They needed, they need to change something after Aaron Glenn fell asleep. Like change the narrative.

[Will Compton]

The jets are back.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, we are back.

[Will Compton]

Aaron Glenn made this move. Tear talk from Snore Snore. Jeff underscore. Jeff underscore irons on X. Tear talk given Will Compton Self admitted 25. Now it's 27. Body fat and physical state. Could he make a UFL roster in his current, current condition?

[Clay Matthews]

With how much time training?

[Will Compton]

All I need is three weeks.

[Clay Matthews]

Three weeks. Tighten up those, tighten up the ligaments, the muscles.

[Will Compton]

Essentially run the Tom Brady talking to Shaq clip. Like I would beat ass right now in the ufl, honestly, if I'm being transparent. No, there's. It's over, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Bro, you can't have that mindset.

[Will Compton]

I don't have that mindset. For real. It's just more of, just a reality.

[Clay Matthews]

No, like, I wouldn't always bet on yourself.

[Will Compton]

You're right. I would need a month.

[Clay Matthews]

This is what people said about you when you were free. You're, you're, I bet you your agent at the time was like, buddy, it's over. You're like, no, I'm going to be a free agent.

[JP]

What level could you play at tomorrow?

[Will Compton]

Middle school. Easy. High school. Yeah. You think you give a full game of high school, high school one side of the ball?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

You think you could run flag right now with me?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I, I, I've seen some footage of your flag.

[Clay Matthews]

Like it's, I'm trying to get you to play.

[Russell Wilson]

You just don't want to.

[Will Compton]

I gotta. Listen, there's gonna be injuries. 100 there's going to be an injury. So. But yeah, I think I could play. I think I could play high school ball one side of the ball all game and be productive and be productive.

[Russell Wilson]

Set it up.

[Will Compton]

What kind of stats? Depends on the side of the ball.

[Clay Matthews]

You playing backer put you at running back?

[Will Compton]

I play running back. I wouldn't be as productive in the

[Clay Matthews]

running Backs, you'd run for over 200, though.

[Will Compton]

You put me at receiver, I think I'd get you some.

[Clay Matthews]

You're playing that team from Baylor down in Down. Chattanooga, though. All those French Canadians.

[Will Compton]

That'd be easy.

[Clay Matthews]

I think they want state. Right? You boys know probably a little bit

[Will Compton]

better, but linebacker, you get five down in front of me. Just free roaming out there on the second level. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Come on.

[Clay Matthews]

What if a big tackle comes down on you, though? You don't see them.

[Will Compton]

They might. I mean, they'll get some blocks on me. There's no question about it. But I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get mine.

[Clay Matthews]

Yay. We. Ouch.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I could be out there. Would you play some U40 men football? No. Those guys want it more than me, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Bro, you ought to do that for your vlog. Boston needs to put together the U40 team just for a game. Just for a game. All stars. How old are you? 39.

[Will Compton]

Would you join? So funny.

[JP]

Like everybody in Nashville.

[Will Compton]

Delaney, Randall Cobb.

[Clay Matthews]

I just. I need to guarantee I don't get hurt though, right? I could just see Achilles going and just be honest.

[Will Compton]

That's the thing, though. It ain't. It ain't. It ain't guaranteed we're truly playing.

[Clay Matthews]

Can we get some big. Can we get some, like, Saudi sponsors out here? Like, big money, you know, like Tom Brady got.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Whoever wants to sponsor, we'll take on some branding. We'll wear all the brands on the jersey.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You won't even see the numbers or the last names. They'll say Kevin on the back. Everyone's name.

[Matt Rogers]

Ken.

[Clay Matthews]

Kevin.

[Russell Wilson]

That's a clean take.

[Will Compton]

That's a clean take.

[Clay Matthews]

It only took me an hour, but I got there. Yeah, Bro, look at this. Look at that face mask. Looking like Prime Ray Lewis.

[Will Compton]

Dude. The 40U. We should. If you're. If you're with it, talk Taylor into it.

[Clay Matthews]

I could do pass rusher. Yeah, I could do that.

[Will Compton]

We get Taylor being disruptive on the D line.

[Unknown Guest]

I don't think you'll ever get Taylor to do it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you don't think so?

[Unknown Guest]

I think his injuries are different than the injuries you all have had. And he will not go back to getting another ACL fixed.

[JP]

Lump almost blew by him. Is that true in San Fran?

[Will Compton]

That's true. Columb did almost kind of had him in the building for a moment.

[Clay Matthews]

Probably would have been a dog at three technique with that body you got, like, think about it. How tall are you?

[Will Compton]

5 10. 5 10.

[Clay Matthews]

Aaron Donald Price. 510. How and how much?

[Matt Rogers]

Allegedly.

[Will Compton]

Allegedly. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know.

[Will Compton]

We'll.

[Clay Matthews]

We'll. 275. Number 99 for the Rams.

[Will Compton]

I could do it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you could do it.

[Russell Wilson]

I still got it.

[Will Compton]

Get a bunch of the guys who've just been on the bus but don't play anymore.

[Matt Rogers]

Call it.

[Will Compton]

Patrick Willis. Get his feet taped one more time just for the boys. Imagine the team you line up against, just all these NFL ex. NFL players.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, we couldn't lose, though.

[Will Compton]

We would. Hey, we wouldn't lose on the.

[Clay Matthews]

No. Honestly, who's our quarterback, though?

[Will Compton]

We would need to find. We could find a queue. Oh, yeah. Mitch could. Kurt. Ben. Kurt. Yeah.

[JP]

Use Dime Lab balls.

[Will Compton]

There's Dime Lab balls.

[Russell Wilson]

I could be wide receiver.

[JP]

There's nothing better than the clip of that guy dressing up as the scout and showing up to U40 and walking up to one of the dudes and being like, hey, man, how would you feel about being a member of the Arizona Cardinals? And the guy's like, man, it's a dream.

[Clay Matthews]

For real.

[JP]

He's like, all right, we'll be in touch.

[Will Compton]

I'm like, that is so messed up. There's a couple comments from last week's episode. The Real Jet double zero. Patrick Willis looks like he could be Delaney's father. I thought was hilarious. Diddy Walker made. Made an appearance. 49ers parties with Diddy Walker must have been. Must have been insane. Did you hear the story with Justin Smith? Yes, and Joe Staley.

[Clay Matthews]

Bro. Justin Smith was a bro. Like, I forever. I mean, you know, we had some good battles with them, but that defense, they had Justin Smith, Alden Smith. I mean, they run that te game, but. But Justin Smith. I mean, I know we're talking about the story right here. I'm focusing on his play, but. Yeah, that's wild. And then he talked about. Got a little. Little legal. Legal trouble afterwards. It was. It was number 49, right? No, not Ray McDonald. I'm sorry. Bruce Miller. Bruce Pullback. Yeah, he was a stud, Frank.

[Will Compton]

Patrick Willis's.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes, he was hot. But listening to them talking about just like, find the biggest dude in the yard and imagine that bro. Like, Joe Staley was that guy too. Like, you know, he was that left tackle, perennial pro Bowler.

[Will Compton]

Well, what are you doing? Justin Smith shows up and headbutts you and breaks your nose, man, you gotta bro, like, and then burn your furniture. And that's a. That's a. That's a big specimen.

[Clay Matthews]

That's one where you're like, shout out Ashley Furniture. 50 off for the boys. You know, like, hey, you gotta go get some new ones. But, yeah, that's. I don't know, man. Like, that's tough. Like, you got to go out on your shield. I'm sorry. Hey,

[Will Compton]

hey. Gotta go out on your shield.

[Clay Matthews]

But that's, you know, that's tough. I. I don't know. What. You just gotta go out swinging. Even if you die, come back on your shield.

[Will Compton]

I don't know if you live at all.

[Clay Matthews]

You're not gonna cowboy there in front of the boys.

[Will Compton]

If he headbutts you and shatters your nose and you're laying on the ground.

[Clay Matthews]

Okay, well, good point. At that point, it's over, and you're like, thank God All I gotta do is get my nose fixed. Hey.

[Will Compton]

Then he starts burning my furniture. I think I'll just still play. Like, I'm knocked out. He's like, oh, he's throwing my couch in the fire. Yeah, like his will.

[Clay Matthews]

That's like.

[Will Compton]

Who was that?

[Clay Matthews]

NFL show or not the NFL, that football show on espn, Game changers back in the day, Pros versus Joe's. Oh, no, it got canceled after what? It was like, guys were doing blow at halftime. The NFL canceled it because it was like, yo, you can't do this. But this was straight up what. It was like.

[Will Compton]

Like piss test and stuff.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes.

[Will Compton]

What was that called?

[Clay Matthews]

I think it was game change. Was it Game changers?

[Will Compton]

Maybe. When Delaney said he was a dude that was kind of scary to be around when he got some alcohol in his system. You know those white boys. So once he said that, it's like, yeah, yeah. Though going out of your shield sounds good. But this. This is a different breed of a human being. Playmakers.

[Clay Matthews]

Playmakers. Phenomenal.

[Will Compton]

Oh, yeah, because they went. They went out in the parking lot and played a game.

[Clay Matthews]

What?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, like a dude who got approached. It was a quarterback got approached, like, in the club, and they're like, let's go run it right now. And they went. They went out. Yeah. In Playmakers. They went out, like, in the parking lot. Anyone that has not seen that, Playmakers is great.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Playmakers. You got anything else, boys?

[Russell Wilson]

Good.

[Clay Matthews]

A wrap.

[Will Compton]

Design contest. What do people need to know about the design contest? We have one week left. Yes.

[Russell Wilson]

Yes, sir.

[Will Compton]

What? What's the info? One week left to do what? Purchasing the winner. Whoever gets the most wins. Gotcha.

[Russell Wilson]

You.

[Will Compton]

So, week left of the design contest, all the merch. They're up on the site right now. Go buy your favorite one. Support the designer who made them. We're picking the winner next week. Good intro. Fun intro. It's good seeing you.

[Clay Matthews]

It's good seeing you too.

[Will Compton]

I have. I've missed you.

[Clay Matthews]

Thank you.

[Will Compton]

I've missed your scent.

[Clay Matthews]

I do shower before every show. I try to come kept.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I can tell. Do you do when you comb.

[Clay Matthews]

No call. Never comb my hair. So my daughter's always like, so how

[Will Compton]

does it get so sleek, perfectly.

[Clay Matthews]

These fingers.

[Will Compton]

You just use your fingers. Do you use a brush to get the.

[Clay Matthews]

No, I just said no brush.

[Will Compton]

No to get the wispies.

[Clay Matthews]

Any product? Yeah, product. There you go. I use. No, I just use. I just use my fingers. I got a redken leave in something. Something that kind of gets it smooth. Trying to get too greasy looking. Then if I got. If I got to be somewhere where you don't want the wispies by the end of the day, you have to hairspray. Hey, you put a little bit of GRE in there, a little bit of Castrol to. To grease it down. A little bit of gel. I'm not sure which gel I use, but yeah, keep it nice and slicked. All right.

[Will Compton]

Appreciate that, man. Appreciate your time on the bus, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm looking out here. Matt's got a good head of hair right there.

[Will Compton]

I usually. I usually have long hair.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm keeping it short right now, but nice job. I am not shocked.

[Will Compton]

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[Matt Rogers]

me when He's Ready Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Bustle with the Boys. We are at the Super Bowl. Now let me just put things into perspective for you guys for a little bit. There's a lot of gentlemen out here, extremely talented men who have taken the world by storm on the gridiron on and off the field tour here doing a bunch of things for super bowl week. We've been trying to track this man down all week long. He's staying in the same hotel this day. He's actually staying on the same floor as us.

[Will Compton]

That was his mistake.

[Matt Rogers]

That was his mistake. He's now calling being like, just so you guys know the buster boys are.

[Will Compton]

He felt like every time, right? I don't know if he felt like this, but I'm thinking in my head he probably felt like every time he saw us. Like, hey, we were trying to work something out. Like, hey, it's. We'd love to have you on. We love to have you on.

[Matt Rogers]

Graduate of North Carolina state. Also got your graduate degree at Wisconsin. Third round pick for the Seattle Seahawks.

[Russell Wilson]

Third round pick. Yep.

[Matt Rogers]

Third round pick for the Seattle seahawks. 10 time pro bowler, arguably the greatest dual threat quarterback of all time. Super bowl champion Will Compton. What are you reading right there?

[Will Compton]

I'm just, I'm looking over these career stats because what year did you just. Just finished?

[Clay Matthews]

14.

[Russell Wilson]

14.

[Will Compton]

Which is nuts to think about. But as I see this like from a bird's eye view, it's like 46,921 passing yards. Like when I see. What is it? He is the lone quarterback in NFL history to accumulate 40,000 passing yards and 5,000 rushing yards for his career. Additionally, Wilson joined Peyton Manning from 2012 to 2014 as the only quarterback in NFL history with 30 plus passing touchdowns and 100 plus passer rating in three consecutive seasons. That was 18 through 20 for you, that is.

[Matt Rogers]

And also we had all those stats along and then since his rookie year when nobody even knew the man on Tuesdays, every Tuesday he's going to visit children in the hospital. So we're talking about all around general good guy. Let's give a round of applause for the one, the only, Russell Wilson. Is it exhausting, dude?

[Russell Wilson]

Good to be on bus.

[Clay Matthews]

Is it exhausting?

[Russell Wilson]

Which part? You guys hounding me down, chasing me down.

[Matt Rogers]

We were at Fanduel last night and they're doing, hey, we got Rob Gronkowski, Super Bowl, Russell Wilson list. Also busting with the boys is here and then players list. Like where do you find the time? What's your schedule like?

[Russell Wilson]

Well, first of all, it's. It's crazy. First of all, be on the show with you fellas. You know, I'm excited to be on here with you guys. I wish we were on the bus right now, but we're here.

[Will Compton]

I know, bro.

[Russell Wilson]

But no, I'm super grateful to be on here with you guys. I've admired Yalls, both Yalls careers. I compete against both of you guys too.

[Will Compton]

Hey, you're one of my three just. Yeah, hey listen, one of my three interceptions out there. I didn't wanna.

[Russell Wilson]

I probably juked you along the way, but. But no, man, I'm just grateful to be on here. You guys, you guys are doing a great job. But no, going back to your original question, man, how do I find the time? I think just being organized, you know, really trying to be authentic to the things I love. You know, obviously, I think obviously talking ball is something that I absolutely love to do and being on here with you guys and talking life and all other stuff that goes along with it. But yeah, I just try to be organized as possible. I got a good team around me too, that helps and just put things together and make sure I'm ready to go.

[Will Compton]

The balance has got to be difficult at times because again like you, you have businesses, you have found a foundation like the children's hospital going every Tuesday. The 14 year career had and the stats I just rattled off, you're also a father. Like it has got to be challenging at times to have the balance, have the organization because your wife's a superstar as well. Like do you ever. Are you guys ever able sitting back or when you're in bed about to fall asleep like yo, our life is the gratitude that you have.

[Russell Wilson]

I think life is all about gratitude. I think that, you know, there's challenges along the way just like everybody else's life. We all don't have it perfect or anything like that and I think just having a heart full of gratitude and joy in the midst of storms and. And things like that, and just also knowing, like, there's always better days ahead. You know, it's like when I feet hit the ground, I just want to hit the ground running. Morning. And, you know, it's like, to me, it's funny because, like, when I go to sleep, I don't sleep much. Like, I sleep about five hours a night maybe, but when I. When I do, I'm gone because I feel like I've exhausted myself all day using all my gas in my. In the car, you know what I mean? And just. You refill it, you know, and just go again. And I think, to me, I always said, I never want to die empty. You know, I want to. I want to die. If I die, I want to die empty. Meaning I've used everything that I have, dad, you know, for everyone and everyone else and everything that I want to accomplish. And so, you know, I feel like I'm. I'm still growing, I'm still learning every day. And just being a dad is awesome, too. And then, you know, having kids and just, you know, seeing them grow up is crazy. You got four of them running around 11, 8, 5 and 2. And so there's. There's their challenges, too, on top of that.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

And then you're. You're also. I think you're trying to be the best in the world at what you do. And it was funny because I was talking to somebody the other day about, you know, my career, and I feel like, you know, I've been in a, you know, a heavyweight fight, meaning it's been. It's been 14 rounds.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Right.

[Russell Wilson]

You know, and I feel like I've won 11 of them, and I feel like I've lost maybe the last couple, but it doesn't mean I won't win 15 and 16. And so that's kind of been my mentality.

[Matt Rogers]

So kind of a bar.

[Will Compton]

That is kind of a bar. The old school heavyweight. The rounds would go up to what, 15? What is left in the tank for Russell Wilson? Because again, you look back on some of these career statistics. Like, you, obviously, we played nine. Getting to watch you. You whooped our ass. I remember when your first year at Wisconsin or your. Was that your only year at Wisconsin?

[Russell Wilson]

Only year at Wisconsin.

[Will Compton]

You whooped when Nebraska came to town. But getting to kind of like watch your career unfold and being now more of an observer and you talking about losing the last couple rounds, like, how much longer do you want to play this game?

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, I want to play a few more years, for sure. I think for me, you know, I've always had the vision of getting to 40 at least. You know, I think, you know, the game is different, you know, quarterbacks, if we get hit, it's not, you know, we get hit hard, but it's. There's certain rules. I mean, back in the day when I started, bro.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. You just get blood back.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah. So the game, I feel like, allows you to, you know, live a little longer, I guess. You know, I feel healthy, I feel great. But I think more than anything else is, do you love the game? Do you love studying? Do you love the passion for it all? Do you love the process? Do you love the practice?

[Clay Matthews]

Do you love.

[Russell Wilson]

Everybody loves the winning part of it, but it's the process. There's a journey that you got to be obsessed with. And that part I'm obsessed with. It's the being around the fellows in the locker room and all that too. You know, it's. That's the part I still absolutely love and enjoy. So for me, you know, you know, I think about certain guys. I think about guys like Elway, I think about guys even Peyton Manning himself and, you know, different guys that I've been around and witnessed or whatever it may be, and. And, you know, they. Some of them didn't win to the end. You know, I think about Elway's career, you know, winning at the end of his career. I think about Peyton winning again at the end of his career. You know, those moments are, you know, special moments. Even Tom himself, who obviously played a 45, you know, has been the greatest example for anybody at this position or anybody in our. In our game. You know, he won, I don't, four in the last seven or something crazy like that. So, you know, why. Why think anything else, you know, And I think it's about being around the right people, the right time, you know, all the glue coming together. You've seen that with Sam Darnold. You know, obviously we're here at the super bowl, but you're seeing that with Sam Darnold. You know, his situation for four or five years wasn't what he wanted it to be, right? Yeah. And you see it with Baker Mayfield, a guy who I love watching play and compete, you know, and just goes from Baker, goes from Cleveland to Carolina. It doesn't work there. And then he gets a shot in LA with Sean McVeigh on a Thursday night game, has a great game the next, you know, a couple Games next, you know, he's sitting in Tampa Bay, you know, and doing his thing, I think. Sam Darnold, same thing.

[Clay Matthews]

And.

[Russell Wilson]

And so just. It just takes the right place at the right time. I know that, as you mentioned, the resume is one thing, but it's about the moment right now and how do I use all that experience for something good?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, you talked about Sam and they were talking about his scouting report as he was coming out. And one thing, like an intangible that he had is that he's unfazed by failure. Well, it does not affect him at all, which is something that I think every quarterback should be able to have. You brought up the rounds, right? 14 rounds. You've won 11 of them in the last couple of years. We've had a little bit of jumping around Broncos, the situation, which I'm going to read the tweet because, buddy, I'll be honest with you, that's fucking awesome.

[Clay Matthews]

What tweet?

[Will Compton]

What tweet?

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, I'll read the tweet. I'll read the tweet right now, actually, because I Do your teams feel like, okay, we're going to bring this up right now, but, yeah, we are. This is the tweet that you put out.

[Will Compton]

It is

[Matt Rogers]

classless, but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting 15 plus years later through the media now. Now a lot of people, and I know PR is probably sitting back to like, okay, it's not necessarily the vision we want to get off, but, dude,

[Will Compton]

maybe they tweeted it. Maybe they did

[Matt Rogers]

the human, the human element of that and every guy, because everybody who works nine to five jobs, drives trucks, blue collar lifestyle, they sit down on a Sunday and they watch these heroes on TV and they put them at this higher in life thing and then they see all the, the charity you do, how much you give back, what you and your wife both did, both do together and your foundations, everything like that. It's like, oh, this guy is so up here. It's so hard to me to even visualize that we're even in the same, like, class. And to put a tweet like that is like very humanizing towards, like. Yeah, we all are affected by decisions that are made off the camera, off of the field. And that's like a. It's a humanizing element that when I saw that tweet, I'm like, dude, this is badass.

[Will Compton]

In that Russell Wilson bites back.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, that Russell Wilson bites back. Because you do.

[Clay Matthews]

You.

[Matt Rogers]

You run. You're a very classy Individual, you're very well spoken guy, you're well dressed. You come in, you shake everybody's hand. You see all my boys, you're shaking their, their hands, and it's like, this dude, this dude's operating at a high level. But then you see that tweet, and it's like, okay, this dude, he. He sees it all. Like, he's seeing a 360. Yeah, a full 360. So I don't even know where I was going with that. Oh, yeah, the three. The three rounds. You look at those three rounds and how the operation of all that has gone, like, where do you think you could have handled some things better? Where do you think you did a good job in some of those spots? Because a lot of times, the success you have early in your career, people want to, like, if people are really good, like Jordan, Kobe, all these people, like, you get used to people being great, and then when they're not or something happens, it's like so quick to point the finger. So in those, in these last three rounds, like, how do you think you could have done a better job? And where do you think you've handed yourself? Greatness, adversity?

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, I think there's always a maturation processing. First of all, going back to the tweet, like, I don't say much. I never, hardly ever say anything. I think there's a time and place. Place, but sometimes you get fatigued of. Of people talking about you. You just. Like you mentioned, we're all human, you know, but it's one thing for people that maybe aren't in the field or aren't, you know, you know, people say bots or whatever, talking like, I don't. I don't worry about that, stuff like that. But to me, but to me, when you've been in the ring or you've been, you know, on the same side of this and that, and I got the same amount of rings as you got, meaning Sean, right?

[Clay Matthews]

Like, yeah. And I.

[Russell Wilson]

And listen, I got a lot of respect for him as a play call or this and that, but to take a shot, I don't, I don't like, you know, I don't think it's necessary, you know, I mean, especially when I'm not even on your own team anymore. So for me, there's a point in time where you have to. I've realized I've stayed quiet for so long. There's a. There's a time and place where I'm not right. And so I think that, you know, for me, I know who I am as a competitor, as a warrior, as a champion, too. And, you know, I've beaten Sean, too. You know, like, we've been on the same place and same thing. And so it's not a matter of disrespect. Just don't disrespect me. That's my big thought. So going back to what I could have done better along the way, man, I think that, you know, one, you always want to win more games. Yeah, it's all about winning. Like, at the end of the day, nobody cares about anything else but winning, no matter how you do it. I think that you also. You also reflect back on, you know, the process of, you know, like, little things that maybe you don't. Like when you're up here for so long, you don't really realize all the. All the nuances that go around. Meaning, for example, like, I had my own office in Seattle all the time, but it was because I was always watching film. It wasn't a negative thing in Seattle.

[Clay Matthews]

Right.

[Russell Wilson]

You go to somewhere else, and maybe somebody thinks it's. Well, that's strange. That's weird.

[Clay Matthews]

But.

[Russell Wilson]

But they gave me the office. They said, hey, we want to have everything you had in Seattle. I didn't ask for it. They said it. So, like, those things happen. But when you reflect back, I mean, okay, well, when I do it again, okay, I don't need that. It's not something I need necessarily. We can figure that out. Like those little things that people said, I had my own parking spot. I didn't have my own parking spot. I just got there early and parked in the same first three, four, five spots. So, like, those little things that you realize that happens, you understand that that's like. You can't ever be affected by that. And so that's why I've never really changed, you know, my thought process in terms of those things. I think the one thing I've done consistently well is I always try to love my teammates. I always love the game. I love practice.

[Matt Rogers]

I love.

[Russell Wilson]

And so for me, like, you know, going to Pittsburgh was a great experience for me because the players love ball. You know, the guys love ball. It was cool guys like Cam Hayward, TJ Watt, guys like that. I love being around, you know, and. And, you know, to be able to mentor a guy like George Pickens and be around him and seeing all the things he's been able to do, you know, and playing with him and, you know, being around guys like DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, like, the Love of the game. Bobby Wagner, guy who just won man of the year. Those are my boys for life. You know, guys like Cliff Averill, who, who, you know, like, played on the defensive side, but we've been forever close, you know, for a long time. Guys like Charlie Martin, guys like Jimmy Graham, like one of my favorite teammates. Yeah, we only played a couple years together, but, man, we, you know, we had a bunch of fun scoring touchdowns in the end zone, but we're forever locked in, like, literally talk to them all the time, you know, and quite a bit. So Robert Turpin, who was my roommate, like, those are memories and things that you never let go. You would never change anything for, you know, and people can question plays this, that why did this happen? But then the day I've given my all to the game, and when you give your all, you got nothing to. You have nothing to apologize for, you know, like certain points in your life that, like, I got nothing to apologize for except for giving my all. You rather like me, you love me, you hate me, whatever it is. It's like you. You just. I'll love you fully even if you don't love me. That's your choice. But in the day, like, I'm gonna give my all to the game because that's what the game deserves. And so that's how I always viewed it. And so I think it's. I got. I got more teammates that I'm closer to than not. I got more people than we hit up and talk to all the time. And those things I never regret. So I think that, like, the higher you get, there's always noise, you know, My old pastor used to say when I was in, I was going through a tough time. My dad was on his deathbed. I was in Raleigh, North Carolina, North Carolina State. And there was a lot going on. I was playing great in football, but there's a lot of other stuff going on in the world and my world or whatever, and it's just challenging. My dad on his deathbed bed, I just remember the pastor saying one day to me, he said, remember, as you continue to rise, the greater your great, the more they're going to hate. The greater your great, the more they're going to hate. And I just. I've funnily always believed that, like, that's part of. That's part of trying to go to mountaintop. And sometimes you fall, and people like watching a fall. And sometimes you got everybody who leaves you down in the valley, but you just keep climbing and you want to have be around the people that allow you to keep climbing. You want to be around the people that sometimes, you know what, you don't have any more strength, but they keep pushing you up. And it's like those are the people that I want to be around because I'm going to do the same for them. And I think that's, that's kind of been my thought process.

[Will Compton]

When you earlier, when you talk about you love the process, you love ball, you love showing up. And again over 14 years, I'd imagine, especially over the last few, that there's been years where that process and that love and that joy has been challenged. What years have those been for you? Because again, you've also been in a lot of different seats now. You've been the guy that's won the Super Bowl. You know, we were obviously at Fanduel last night joking about, you know, you was joking back, joking back and forth, the gronk on the slant route and everything else to where you've lost a Super Bowl. You're kind of in this dynasty ish realm where you got all these great players together. Oh, we'll get back to the next time to where you've been the second contract, third contract guy at the same spot and maybe I'll be a Circle Hawk forever. You've been a this team Denver is trading everything to get acquire you in like a fourth round pick to where you are now the pinnacle of the football stories and headlines. To where you're at Denver at Denver expected to bring a Super Bowl. You go to where you're like a mercenary guy for a year with the Pittsburgh Steelers and you're a starting quarterback on that roster. You've went through this year to where you got bench and got to be a backup and a mentor to young cats like Jackson Dart. So you've been in so many different seats. How has like your joy and love for the process been challenging at times when you reflect back on really the back half of your career?

[Russell Wilson]

Well, first of all, I'm gonna have you write the back side of my book one day. No, man, I think isn't that nuts though?

[Will Compton]

Like, you've been in so many different journey.

[Russell Wilson]

I think it's been a challenging one. But I didn't ask for it to be easy. You know, I didn't ask for it to be something simple. I think that the big part of it is, is that man, like I go back to Seattle, like 10amazing electric years, you know, just everything just, you know, was electric and the things we were able to do early in my career and also, you know, from 2015 to 2021. 2020 in particular, like I broke my finger in 21. I felt like I was at the top of my game and broke my finger unfortunately. But like just those years were just dominant too, you know. So like I felt like, you know, just that was an amazing part of my life that will forever be a part of my life and my. Part of my journey and part of my story, historical part of it. And then the, the history of being in Denver, like it was challenging. I tore my lad. I was playing, you know, on it with, you know, I tore 80, 90 of my lat on my right side trying to throw. But it was hard, bro. It was like I was about every throw. But like, you know, I'm a competitor. I'm old school school. I believe that the quarterback's supposed to be on the field no matter what the circumstances are. You know, I gotta go. There's no other. I didn't come this, you know, come here, just not go compete. And the unfortunate part is we lost like nine games by like five, six points or less.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

You know, which, like in Seattle, we always want them.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

But I think that was like, you know, a challenging piece of just figuring that out. But okay, you go through that first year and it is what it is. And then here comes Sean P. I'm super excited about that. Like, we're having candle night, candle lit dinners and watching film together. Red zone this, that and the other. Just sitting there like in his office.

[Matt Rogers]

Office.

[Russell Wilson]

Like everything's going, everything's going great and everything else. And all of a sudden, you know, I'm. I think I'm second in AFC or second NFL and touchdown passes. But our record's not very good. We've been challenged along the way and I think we got beat by like Miami 70 to 20, something like that. It was, it was just. Oh, tricky situation. And. And then, and then forgot about this.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah. But then, you know, like, Vance Joseph does an amazing job. I remember we played in Chicago, we were down 287 at halftime. And I remember the halftime is why are we always losing? You know, I said, man, you guys are tired of losing. Quit talking like we're losing. I quit acting like we're losing. We gotta. Yeah. And so that shift and then all of a sudden like I remember Vance Joseph and I actually talk and I going up to him, I said, man, don't forget who you are. This is at halftime. After that I went up to him and just, I just remember you know, talking to him one on one on the sideline right before the half, I said, we're gonna win this damn game.

[Will Compton]

Game.

[Russell Wilson]

Like, we're gonna win this game. And all of a sudden, like I said, vance, just be you, man. You're one of the hardest guys I've ever gone. And sure enough, like, and it wasn't because of me, it was because of Vance and the defense. But I'm talking about just in those moments, moments of communication, like, and just, I just remember, like, us coming back and winning that game, and all of a sudden we got on a hot streak, we started winning a bunch of games. We beat Green Bay, we go, we beat Kansas City, and beating Kansas City in, you know, I don't know, eight years, something crazy like that. And then, and you know, also we had beat Minnesota, we beat a bunch of teams along the way, and like, we felt like we were like one of the hotter teams in football. And I felt like I was like, you know, like, I'm me again, fully, you know, and there's a tricky situation where they, you know, they may want to make a business decision and say, we're going to bench you for the rest of your last nine games if you don't change your injury guarantee. I'm like, wait, what? I'm going to. I'm in the Halloween party, you know, so that was challenge. That was probably the most challenging piece because internally I knew what was going on. From the business standpoint, I didn't. It was kind of bs, to be honest with you. But, like, I'm dealing with that, but also still trying to be a leader and still trying to be in the moment without letting anybody know. And I just remember going to Buffalo, I didn't know if I was going to play that following week against Buffalo, Buffalo Bills. And I remember going to that, like,

[Will Compton]

just for context, too, on the business decision when they make the change. It's like if you were still in the field and you were to get hurt, they would have to over you.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, but that was part of the deal that we did. You know, that's everybody's dealing injury guarantee. But if I, if I said yes and they remove the injury guarantee, now all of a sudden, you know, I get injured in the following week. I don't make that. And, but the bigger issue is not just myself, but the rest of the NFL. If, if I do it, it's going to happen for everybody else. They're going to make everybody else do it right. And change any. So I'm not going to Set a bad precedent for NFL players. Yeah, right.

[Will Compton]

So.

[Clay Matthews]

So.

[Russell Wilson]

So anyways, I'm like, listen, like, I'm gonna figure out it's bye weekend. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to. Be able to play the following week. They're gonna let me play or not. So, anyways, my point is, is, like, I remember playing Monday Night Football. They said, okay, you're gonna play this game. Like, am I gonna play the next ones? Like, we don't know.

[Will Compton]

And this is where you're cut. They're cut. You guys are going back and forth on this injury guarantee thing.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah. So, like, I'm not.

[Matt Rogers]

Is your agent calling you and telling you this, or are they coming up to you in the facility and being

[Russell Wilson]

like, hey, this on the field is by week. So I'm. I'm la. But the thing is, is that I don't know if I'm gonna play the Monday Night Football.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, right.

[Russell Wilson]

The following week, playing Buffalo. And we've got on a hot stream, we've started to beat these teams. Like, wait, what do you mean? Like, I'm gonna play? And so all the way up to that following Monday, I didn't know coming up to the Monday Night Football. And so, like, that game in particular, that whole week, I just had to go, like, almost cold internally to know that I gotta be. I gotta be my desk, no matter what. Then that's always the week. But, like, this time, like, there's no. No, there's no other option here.

[Clay Matthews]

Right?

[Russell Wilson]

So I remember making a double spin move, going to the back corner to Cortland Sutton, fourth down, he makes a crazy catch. And I just remember, I don't really ever talk, you know, And I'm like. I remember coming to the sideline. I was like, you must not know me. And I'm like, I'm looking all this emotion, the energy and the juice and like.

[Will Compton]

Like, who are you talking. Whatever.

[Russell Wilson]

I'm walking up and down and they're reviewing the play. I already know what to say.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm like, this.

[Russell Wilson]

I'm, like, looking like it's a touchdown. Like, I know it. Courtney got his feet in. They're like, is it a touchdown? Is it not? You know, it's not. Like, that's a touchdown. And there's really only one person I'm talking to in that moment, you know? Yeah, really? And so for me, it was like, that's a touchdown. And that was my mentality, like, to flip on, like, you know, and so. But you know what's crazy is Is that like, I, the, the people, the players, the, the bowls, Cortland, Sutton, guys like Javante Williams, different guys I've been around, Tim Patrick, man, I wouldn't trade any of that because of the relationships. The people that I got to be close with and listen and listen. They, they, they obviously have Bo now who's done amazing job. Like, I, I actually texted Bo post the game that he got hurt and they're like, then it went in and, you know, stayed in touch with him a little bit and just like, I, I don't have any jealousy in my heart. That's not my, how, my. How I function. It's like, man, like, man, go shine, bro. Like this, that and the other. And I think a big part of it is when you give to others is always returned back to you. And I've always learned that. So, like, I think that, like, even though I had a. I felt like I threw 26 touchdowns, eight interceptions that year, I still had two games left to play. They benched me in the final. I knew it was, that was it.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

And so like, okay, now what I want to do now where am I going to go? And to go to Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin, to go there with guys like Cam Hayward and TJ Watt, like I mentioned earlier, and be around that organization and that, like, old school football. Like, they're obsessed with ball and that fan base and the towels. Like, it was one of my coolest experiences and it. And even though it didn't, you know, it was only a year there, it was one of my best experiences in the relationships I have there. Then going to New York and, you know, playing there and I got to, you know, be around a great organization there that's, you know, been, you know, world class. I think what's, what, what's been amazing about that is, is like, it was humbling. I just threw 453 touchdowns against the Cowboys the following week. I benched after the third game. And it's like, okay, this is different. But, but to be able to respond and react to that and still say, you know, I still have a C on my chest, I still gotta lead, I still gotta love, I still gotta push, I still gotta. So, like, nothing's taken away. Nothing's taken the love of the game away from me and nobody can. Because if you really love it, if it's unconditional, it can't be taken. And so I've been tested. And that's what part of overcoming is all about.

[Will Compton]

Right?

[Russell Wilson]

We all have challenges in our own personal Lives. We have challenges, things that we've gone through physically. Injuries, you know, I, like, I battled through injuries and playing through stuff. And that's just what the job recalls calls for, as we all know, and sitting here. And so sometimes those years may be not your best, but once you, once you catch, like, once you hit fire again, it's like it's electric again. And so that's just, that's just, you know, finding that, that, that, that, that gas again, that light again, and doing that all over again.

[Matt Rogers]

How was, how was the relationship or how was the room in general? And in New York with you, Jackson Darwish, I'm sure you had the other creatine Caucasian, Cam Scatter Boo, scampering around somewhere.

[Will Compton]

You got banging his head against the wall outside.

[Russell Wilson]

Creatine what?

[Matt Rogers]

The creatine Caucasians. We've actually. That's our next. We, we started that.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

So, yeah, dude.

[Matt Rogers]

I mean, they, you see Jackson, the way he's playing, kid refuses to slide. Cam Scatter will be on a beeline. He'll see somebody like, I'll hit him instead. And then, you know, know Jameis Winston, who anytime he's in the public light, it's like, it's must see tv. Like, what is that room?

[Russell Wilson]

Like, you know, what's amazing about the room is it's the personalities are amazing. It's. We're always up here, energy is always high. But I think what was amazing about the room is our work ethic. Like, our work ethic was top notch every day. There was no like, slacking of let's be ready to go, let's be ready to work, you know, and, and I think we set the bar high, you know, and doing that every day, I try to set the bar high. I think Jameson does a good job of that as well. And, and Jackson, you know, too, he's a great competitor, you know, and obviously shows that on the field, how he plays. And so it was always fun. It was always, you know, a joy even, even in the midst of the storms and the tough stuff. Like, I mean, we're there early in the morning, it's 5, 5:30, you know, early in the morning, getting our workouts in and then staying consistent with that all the way to, you know, late in the season and, and, and being there till 8:30 at night, watching film still all together, you know, with the boys, you know, film filming. With the boys filming. But we, you know, those things are. The love of the game never changes. And I think, like I said, it's unconditional you.

[Will Compton]

How much different is the New York media compared to the other spots you've been?

[Russell Wilson]

I don't know, man. I'm used to a lot of media. I don't know. I've been, I've been, you know. You know, I think in Seattle, you. We were, we were, we were so freaking good. There was so much media always around, so I was used to it, you know, it was what it was, I think, you know, and Pittsburgh was similar too. You know, Pittsburgh has a lot of media in a great way. And I think obviously being in New York, there's no city like New York City in the world. And so to me it was, you know, it didn't really change anything for me. I've been used to a lot of noise, positively or negatively, whatever. It's. I have a rule like, I don't watch ESPN during the season. I've always been that way.

[Will Compton]

Not on Thursdays. Get up with us on get up.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Might see us on the screen in the facility.

[Russell Wilson]

Literally, like, if I'm like walk through the training room locker room, it's like espn. I'll like peek. But that's always been me since my rookie year. But that's during the season, you know, and like just keeping your head focused,

[Matt Rogers]

that's a, it's very good to limit distractions because I mean, I remember playing and then that dreaded search bar on the Twitter.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, you go and type your type

[Russell Wilson]

in quotations through success. Success though too. It's like, you know, like I said, it's been, you know, 10, 11 rounds of high level ball, you know, the highest level. And that can get you too, you know, that can. So like in, especially in the midst of a season. So how do you stay focused on just in the moment? And you know, I think one of the, one of the gifts that God's given me one is discernment. I think the two is just simply the ability to compartmentalize, you know, the ability to, you know, take one thing and be in that moment and be where my feet are and then to be in the next moment, be where that is. And, and, and sometimes you got to combine the two, but sometimes you just leave that and do that really well and try to do this and try to overcome this and try to figure out how to do that well and, and do this and be in that and be in a vulnerable state and that goes challenging and that's hard to do well. And then everything over here is going great. And then like, so how do you measure that and, and How I've learned how to do that is just be in the moment where you are and then just letting it flow and just being in that. And so I. You know, I always talk about being neutral, not being too high, not being too low, just being right here and knowing that whatever sucks right now is probably going to turn to good, and whatever's good may not be great one day. And you just could be like, okay, well, that's going to turn back to being great again. And just. You just balance that and you understand that. And ultimately it's about the people you're around, you know, and we can be around good people and be that love you and care and. And this and that. And knowing that they know that you're. You're. You're not perfect either. And you're flawed and you have tough stuff and you got life, and at the same time, you got big dreams and goals. And as long as those people are in line with trying to make those things happen, I think that's. That's what you really get addicted to. And love.

[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Matt Rogers]

Clay Matthews has been a big part of our, our season this year. And he talks about Pete Carroll and the energy of those team meetings. Guys taking their shirts off, basketball competitions like, what? Give me some Pete Carolore. Like, was he all on that 24, 7? Was he unlimited?

[Russell Wilson]

You know, he has a. He has this thing he does every year where, you know, probably a game, we're like six or seven. He's getting on a piano. Piano and climbing on top of a piano. And he's like, stand on top of here. And he's like, stand a little bit higher. And he's like, look down. And he does this visualization of like, okay, if your feet on the ground, right? This is a little thing he does. But if your feet are on the ground, right, Are you nervous? If you look down, you're not nervous, right? You go up another foot, you look down, you're not nervous. And he shows a picture of this guy sleeping on top of a bridge, like in New York City building these skyscrapers. And the guys are like, don't have anything really much. And they're like. Like they're probably have like a. A thing of alcohol in their hand. They're falling asleep and they're sitting. Laying asleep on the skyscraper in the middle of the afternoon. He's like, do you think those guys are scared? He's like, as you go higher, right, and this piece of wood that's, you know, three feet wide, when it was on the ground, it wasn't scary, Right. When you get higher and higher, higher, and you look down, it makes you a little nervous, right? But it's the same piece of wood. And so, like, you always, like. I always love that visualization because as you go higher, right, and you're in the same fundamental space, but sometimes you look down, it's like. And you're on the highest point of your life. You know, sometimes that gets a little effing nervous.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

You look down like, okay, well, what if I fall from here?

[Clay Matthews]

You know?

[Russell Wilson]

You can't think that way. Yeah, those guys aren't thinking that way. They're, you know, building those skyscrapers, and if you want to build them, you got to go up there and climb and not be nervous.

[Will Compton]

Right.

[Matt Rogers]

No harness.

[Russell Wilson]

And so, like, those little moments, I. I remember, I think that he was always the same.

[Clay Matthews]

Me.

[Russell Wilson]

Me and Pete were always on the same wavelength. I think one of the things that we always did really extremely well was I think the head coach and quarterback relationship has got to be on the same page. It's got to be the dynamic relationship of that is everything. It moves. The needle, it moves. When you can be on the same page to the media, we can be on the same page on the field, we can be on the same page in the locker room, being the same page, you know, off the field, in the community, this and that and that relationship with the same page, with the addiction to the game, that's when magic happens. And I think I was fortunate to be around Pete and, you know, and I'm looking for that next relationship to do that with, but I think that's. That's something that was really special.

[Will Compton]

Did you ever think when you're having all those years in Seattle, you win the Super Bowl, super bowl, early the 2015 year, happens where you lose. Did you ever think, like, hey, we'll be back here at some point, and that's been the last time you've been at a Super Bowl?

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, I think we all. I think we always think that, you know, we always think that we're always going to be back. But I think it's not just about necessarily being back. It's just about being in the moments as you continue to go. Like, the only way we got there was through hard work every day and the love for the game and some of the all Time greats have never been to a Super Bowl.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Like I think about the guys myself.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. You know,

[Russell Wilson]

but I think when you think about like the all time greats and what they do.

[Will Compton]

Oh, and two in the first round.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

You know, sometimes Will loved his joke,

[Russell Wilson]

but you know, it's. Sometimes we get to the, you know, we never get there. And I've been fortunate to be able to get there twice and know how to get there. And I think, you know, like I said earlier, at the very top of this earlier on is like guys like John Elway that I've always loved watching, you know, when I was young and different guys who along the way when they've, you know, watching the highlights or whatever it may be, you know, a guy who won at the end, you know, a guy like Peyton Manning who I've always admired and played against and competed against this and that, like, you know, he won in the end, you know, and like, why not win some at the end?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

So that's kind of right there, right?

[Matt Rogers]

The end of your story. The way you always saw it happening. How's. I lost my train of thought.

[Will Compton]

Will I have another one? What do you feel?

[Russell Wilson]

Question for you guys? Go ahead.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

What's the journey been like for you guys transitioning from football to this? Obviously you guys have built this crazy, you know, business with this and everything else and all the viewership and everything else. Like what was the challenge and journey in that for you guys each individually? Obviously you know, you world class and what you've done. So going from being world class on football. And I, I don't, I'm joking, but I'm also being serious, like being like,

[Matt Rogers]

think about it, right?

[Russell Wilson]

There's only 1600, roughly a little bit more than that, NFL guys a year. You know, when you think about that, right. Like you're world class. There's 8.5 billion people in the world and we get to do, get to, you know, sack a quarterback every once on, or intercept the ball or whatever it may be. But like my point is that like when you think about all the things you guys have been accomplished throughout your lives, careers, football and what football meant, I think just, you know, the transition from that. What was the, what was the one thing that you guys did extremely well to make that like jump to what you guys are doing now, I would

[Will Compton]

say jump when you can afford to drown. I want to say the biggest hurdle was probably fear for myself. I'll speak for myself. But when I was in what was at the sixth or, gosh dang it, sixth or seventh year. It's just the fear of knowing, like, what am I going to do when this is over with for me? Because I had five awesome years in Washington, loved playing there, and I signed with Tennessee on like a one year smaller deal. And that year they also drafted Rashawn Evans, a inside backer in the first round. So you kind of like know what time it is and in my spot a lot then I never root for injury, but if I'm going to get film, if I'm going to get on the field, you kind of need things to happen to where I have an opportunity to be out there. And so that didn't happen. So I was a backup and a special teams guy that entire year. I knew I was going to go into the market as a minimum signed contract veteran, which is fine. But part of me was like it was starting to set in. Like I could be. I'm on the back nine. Like, I don't know when this is going to end. Like, I might have one more, more year left. I might need the perfect situation. And I dabble with the idea. Like, I remember writing in my journal in Washington, like, I love to have a podcast with 1 million downloads was the first, was the first iteration where I started writing about the podcast and then kind of getting around the boys bringing it up. Like Taylor, Logan, Ryan, we just saw him this week, But Derrick Morgan, when I would bring it up, they'd be like, hey, yeah, you should do. You should do it. I talked Taylor into doing it, but I would say for me it was just that fear of the knowing, like, I don't want to wait until after the game ends. Because my, like joke when I'm where they're like, what advice would you give to guys for when they're playing football? Or maybe after football, be like, man, dive into your curiosities while you're playing because your jokes are funny, you're better looking and you can shake more hands. Like when you are wearing the shield on you and don't wait because then when you wait and it's on the other side, like, you know, you see the guys where. And I'm not saying it's across the board, but just the, the vibe of when you're out of the league and trying to get something going, it's just a different, it's a different, different feel for when you're trying to get something started versus when you have the momentum, when you are pulling.

[Clay Matthews]

It's really good.

[Russell Wilson]

It's great advice too. For guys.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

So always say, the NFL is not for long.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

They tell you, well, just focus on football. But at the same time, you know, the lifetime span of a guy's 200.83 years. So if you don't, you don't focus on building and grafting, but also staying focused, and I think the ability to be disciplined in that.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, man. And so that just that whole mentality of, like, man, I've really been curious to do this. Taylor's on board with doing it. Like, I would hate to get to where I'm like, I regretted that we didn't start a podcast, or I didn't start a podcast because it's like, do I go into coaching? Like, what things am I interested in doing? And so I feel like at that moment, I was like, all right, if we start this podcast now, you're making. You're taking something and you're kind of making more about yourself. Because we know growing, you know, playing football, we've identified it our entire lives since, like, first or second grade. It's always sacrifice for the logo. And you see, when guys retire, it's like the logo wants you to sacrifice for it while you're playing, but the moment you're done, it's not like they're there laying with you at night and holding your hand to the next thing. So I'm like, all right, if I play myself out of the league by having this podcast, jump when you can afford your round, so be it. Like, let's just. Let's try it. And fortunately, I get to play a few more extra years. I felt like I was playing with house money because I just found, like, the love I had for the game when I was a little kid, because it's so business oriented. Like, when you're in the league. League, especially when you taste and you feel the teeth for the first time, when you're, like, riding high and then a team doesn't resign, resign you. Or there's just all the ego involved where you're like, okay, this isn't what I thought it would be at times. And so, yeah, that's what I would say was. Would be the hardest part of the biggest thing is getting over the mental hurdle of that fear of, like, all right, like, let's do it. Yeah, let's figure out. Let's see if this works.

[Matt Rogers]

It's so interesting hearing you say your perspective, because we were, like, Will and I were in totally different. Different parts of our career when this podcast started. Like, Will was thinking, like, oh, I'm almost done. And I was always a guy that was like, all eggs in one basket. If that doesn't work out, I'm sure I'll find something. So when it was like, NFLPAs coming in, hey, by the way, you guys can do all these things and make sure you network. I was like, dude, that, like, I'm playing football, I am the guy that's going to just be the best I can at this and it's all going to work out. So when Will comes to the, to the Titans from the Redskins, I just signed my, my contract to be the highest paid player or highest paid tackle.

[Will Compton]

He was Mr. Unlimited.

[Matt Rogers]

So I, I, I meet my boy. We like obviously have like a great friendship, like from the start. And when he comes to me with this idea, my first thought wasn't, I gotta figure out what's next. It was, it was still fear, but the fear was like, I wonder what people, my peers are going to think about this.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Rogers]

Because it's so different. Because now there's so many podcasts that players do, active NFL players, basketball players all over the place are doing this. But at the time, I don't think I, I'm sure someone did, but no one was doing this before that. So it was like a fear of like, okay, I'm going to go.

[Clay Matthews]

Especially in football.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, especially in football. Yes.

[Matt Rogers]

And all the things, like, we're all brainwashed in the idea that, like, when you play football, like, it's a team sport and if you make it about yourself at all, like, you're cheating the game and you're cheating your brothers. And by me stepping out, out and be doing this podcast, it was like, am I kind of like, am I the boys over? I kind of felt like in the

[Will Compton]

media can take any bite that you have and turn it into whatever they want to.

[Matt Rogers]

And dude, the first podcast we did was with Delaney Walker and he talked about getting an IV with too much air in it that the Titans gave him and he couldn't play a game. It was a preseason game. He thought he was going to die. So the next day I go into practice or whenever it came out, I go into Ota's practice and we in the training staff's looking at me like I killed somebody in their family. And I'm like, I was, what's, what's this all about? Going to a team meeting. And Vrabel pulls up that clip and lets it just play. And I'm sitting there in this thing like, this is the biggest mistake I could have possibly made. Is doing this. And Rebel's just like, hey, if you guys want to have cute little media platforms, go ahead, but just know that the media is going to take anything you say and it's going to twist it against you. So that was probably the first year and a half.

[Russell Wilson]

So how do you respond to that part of it? With that? Because, you know, like I, you know, when you. When you. Like you said, when you got the bag, like yourself or there was.

[Matt Rogers]

There was definitely a level of security. Yeah, there was definitely a level security. But you know what it is like when you're high paid, like, you're. There's an expected leadership.

[Russell Wilson]

That's what I mean. There. There becomes like a. Like you said, it comes more challenging because the higher you go, there's. There's a different level of fear.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah, right.

[Russell Wilson]

Because it's. You look down and it's like you said earlier, like, you're on that skyscraper.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

You mean your highest paid left tackle or whatever.

[Matt Rogers]

And just use your. Your skyscraper analogy. Like, I'm building the skyscraper in football and I got my boy over here being like, let's build this over here. So I've essentially jump off that to go to this and jump back and forth, hoping, like, everything kind of works out.

[Will Compton]

So Taylor calls me right after the meeting and tells me I'm not this my year, my one year had finished. I'm a free agent at this time. But I'm like, oh, shit. Variables. Piss. Like, I'm feeling like I'm still fearing the. The fear of God that Variable can bring to you at times. And it's. We're just like, essentially, we got to be careful, even though we do want to do this.

[Matt Rogers]

So we get like 10 episodes in and Vrabel is like, okay, I'll come do your little podcast. I'll do it. And then that's where we had the viral clip of him saying he'd cut his piece off for a Super Bowl. And when he had that, it was like that Vrabel coming on was obviously massive for our brand, but it was also massive for like, me knowing that, like, okay, like by him coming on, he's essentially co signing. Like, it's okay that you're doing.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Giving us like a verification that.

[Matt Rogers]

And I know, I know you got to get out of here, but there's like, there's a whole world of. Of during the season. Like, I. I don't want to go. Let's say I have a bad football game and then I'm on Monday being like, guys, welcome in to bus roll the boys bowl and it's like, oh, this guy doesn't care about football.

[Russell Wilson]

When really that's the complete opposite.

[Matt Rogers]

It's a complete opposite. Like I care like my extracurricular outside like guys are playing video games, they're investing in real estate, they're doing all these other things. Mine's just where you can see exactly what I'm doing and when I'm doing it and. But it's hard to portray that to the public.

[Russell Wilson]

That's a really good point because like I think like you said, you live that that scribe skyscraper level becomes everybody. There's a, there's a microscope on everything you do. And then as you mentioned, like some guys obsession may be video games and that's fine. Like they play 2K all day.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, right.

[Russell Wilson]

Like meanwhile you may be like for me, like I like business. Like that's my big thing. So I want to create real business, real relationships. But also because it's what I was trained to do when I was young. My dad used to always say, hey, create a business. We'd be in the car, I'd be eight years old, hey, what's your business idea? Create this, do that. And that was something that was important to me in the relationship I had with my dad, my mom and, and what I wanted to do, you know, so it was always, I was always using my imagination in a different way. Another person may use their imagination by, by drawing whatever they give some guys that like love art, whatever it may be. And so like we're still human, we're still, you know, we still have liked interest, you know, outside the game. And like I said earlier, you know, NFL stands for not for long. So when you go with that rookie symposium, the first day the guy walks on stage and he's like, your first day. I'll never forget it. He walks on stages. What does the NFL stand for? Like National Football League is like, no. And I'm like huh? Like he's like, not for long. He says, start thinking about plan B. Now that's when you're a rookie.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

But then when you have success, nobody wants you to think about plan B.

[Matt Rogers]

Isn't that crazy?

[Russell Wilson]

Which is interesting.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

So like there's this dynamic of the fear of okay, well hopefully I make it. I was a third round pick, third string quarterback coming into training camp. I'm zoned in, focused this and that. But then at the same time I have this love for business. I was handing out business cards at NC State, I had no business.

[Will Compton]

I love That I need a business

[Russell Wilson]

card and I was handing it out to people just so I could get their emails. Man, nice to meet you. And I just did that on my own creative thought because I wanted to have relationships and emails and numbers and people that I could stay in touch with when. When the game was over. Right, right. But I was doing that, that wasn't new. I was doing that was a freshman in college. And so like I also remember too, being a freshman in college at NC State and I always had my shirt tucked in. I used to get made fun of for it. And I never Forget. I remember J.R. sweezy being like, bro, I appreciate you. I was like, huh? He was like, man, are you always consistent. You always had your shirt and he would always tuck his shirt in. But like, it was funny because that small little detail you get made fun of because you're trying to be professional and try to be focused. When I'm inside the white lines, when I'm inside the weight room, when I'm inside the building, when I'm. That's what I do. Okay? Now somebody else, they do the same thing, but they may want to do something else that their love is there. May love, like I said earlier, maybe video games. Mine was playing college baseball, mine was doing whatever. And so like we all these love and passion, but also too, from a, sometimes even from a fan base standpoint or a humanizing standpoint, people judge you because, oh, he doesn't love the game. But you're not there at 4:45 in the morning when I'm getting treatment or

[Matt Rogers]

will tell you about my obsessive nature with football.

[Russell Wilson]

You're not there when it's hard and you're getting treatment till one o' clock in the morning because you got to be able to play for the next week. That's the everyday piece of us, right? To be successful, to be one of the, the 1600 and however many players there is. Right. And so I just think that that's, it's a, it's an interesting dynamic. And I think obviously what you guys have created, I was curious like what you guys created, the timing of what you did and the success that you guys have had. And obviously seeing that with guys like Pat McAfee, seeing what you guys have done and that's, you know, I think the opportunity to come on the show with you guys, you know, and just be on a show. I know you guys have talked a little about me along the way

[Clay Matthews]

walk

[Will Compton]

before because you talked about watching, you talked about watching a billion hours of film. When you flew, I think, to Denver, is that what it was?

[Matt Rogers]

It was like 80,000 hours of film.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I think he said he watched every game.

[Russell Wilson]

80,000, bro.

[Will Compton]

Come on.

[Russell Wilson]

I don't know if I said, I don't know if I said 80,000, but I watched every game.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was joking about the 80,000.

[Russell Wilson]

He came off.

[Will Compton]

I've watched every bit of film, and I'm thinking, come on, man.

[Matt Rogers]

Hey, I will say this, Russ. We have talked a little bit. Yeah, we've used some jaw sets. But it's big of you to come on and hang out, because when I

[Russell Wilson]

saw you guys in the hallway in the elevator, you're like, hey, would you, would you come on the show? I was like, yeah, you guys, like, he's not coming on the show. I'm busting with the boys. Come on, man. But no, I, I think that, man. I just think that. No, I'm grateful. I. Listen, I, I, I know. I, I, I. When you, Like I said, when you play in the, in the National Football League, you get to do what I've been fortunate to be able to do with amazing teammates, amazing people, amazing organizations and stuff. And you, you sometimes you have the crown on your head and all that. Everybody wants to shoot at you. That's. That's just part of it, you know, but the crown is heavy. But at the same time, you know, I've also been to the tough place in the Valley and knowing that obstacle, too, and climbing out of that, like I said, being pushed up sometimes and, you know, having some help and, like, to me, you know, I, I've always known there's going to be critics, and there's always gonna be stuff, and there's always gonna be jokes and there's all. And you gotta have thick skin, man, like, at the end of the day, man, I, I get the ball in my hands, I get to do it again. And, like, all I want to do is win another ring hopefully, too. And, you know, like, for me, it's just, like, that's just what I love. And, and if I don't get to do it, you know, win another super bowl again, like, you know what, Like, I know that I gave my all every day, and nobody I've ever played with can say that Russell Wilson and didn't give us all, like, period. And whether you love me, hate me, don't like me, I don't care. It doesn't matter. I, I love the game probably more than anybody else and how I go about it. And so for me, it's just being focused on the next moment, you know, being gratitude. And that's with all the success. And that's also. Same. Same thought. If you had a little tough time, a little failure along the way, and is it really failure? I just think it's lessons along the way and. And so, man, like, it's been good to be on busing with the boys, and it's good. Good to, you know, have a little fun on here and.

[Matt Rogers]

Official friend of the show.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, official friend of the show. What do you. What do you see now? What's the feeling in your body when you watch the. The dangerous Subway sandwich commercial?

[Russell Wilson]

The funny thing is that commercial was out for a little bit, and it wasn't anything. You know, like, the funny thing is, is that, like, that commercial was out I don't know how long. Probably several months. Months, you know, maybe even a year

[Will Compton]

before it started to just go, which

[Russell Wilson]

I didn't have social media at the time. So, like, my first year in Denmark, I'm playing this torn line, like I said, and I wasn't even seeing this stuff. So, like, I never seen the let's ride.

[Will Compton]

Was you seen the less.

[Russell Wilson]

No, but I was saying, let's ride, but I wasn't seen on social media. I wasn't on social media for, like, 90 of the year, 80 of the year. So I wasn't seeing that part of it. So what's funny is, is that, like, I got to the end of the season, the season's over, this and that, like, probably two weeks later after the season, you know, whatever. I'm like, by myself, and I think C's with me or whatever, and I'm like, I, like, download Twitter again, whatever, and I, like, see all this stuff, and I'm like, oh, that's what people were saying.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

All right. And so, like, what's just crazy because, like, you just see just, you know what, like, you know, you got to be able to just be like, whatever, like. And I think part of it is, is that I've been fortunate, like I said, I've been very, very blessed to be around so many great teammates, so many great people, so many great coaches and things, too, along the way in organizations. But, you know, go back to my time in Seattle and we've, you know, been up here, and then it doesn't go that way. It's like, aha. Got, you know, it's like, that's okay. I'm going to show up again. And I think that part of it, like I said, 16 round fight 10. 11 of them have been great. Okay, maybe the past couple haven't been as great as I want them to be, but doesn't mean I won't win. 15 and 16, and I'll bet on myself every day just because of the work ethic and the mentality. And you can't make me waver. Like I said, my love for the game is unconditional. It's unconditional, and that doesn't change. And so we'll strap it up. The whistle will blow again, and we'll go and we'll see what happens.

[Will Compton]

Do you see? Do you understand why it's hard to do 30 minutes? Tough. It's tough to do 30 minutes.

[Russell Wilson]

We got. We got the heat, we got the content.

[Matt Rogers]

Asking the Bud Light question.

[Will Compton]

Bud Light question. You know how people do anything, Anything, anybody. People would do anything for an ice cold Bud Light. What would Russell Wilson do anything for?

[Matt Rogers]

Can't say. Family.

[Clay Matthews]

What?

[Russell Wilson]

Wait, so who would I do anything for? What would I do?

[Will Compton]

It can be anything. What would you do anything for?

[Clay Matthews]

For.

[Matt Rogers]

Can't say. Kids.

[Russell Wilson]

Anything for, like, anything. Like anything, bro would do anything for. I don't know, man. I think I would say I would do anything to. To sit with my dad again. My dad is no longer living, like,

[Will Compton]

two in a row. Yeah, go ahead.

[Clay Matthews]

Huh?

[Will Compton]

Go. Keep going.

[Russell Wilson]

Like, to me, that would be, like, the one thing that I would do anything for. Like, for. For my. My. My kids foresee, but my kids. To see my dad again, to see, like, they never saw him, but to see him, like, but for me to sit down and talk to him again, you know, like, to go through the great moments, but also go talk about the tough moments. I know he's been watching them all from. From up above. But, like, what was your perspective that. What would you do different? What would you tell me? Like, what would you pat me on the back and say, you did great.

[Will Compton]

Great.

[Russell Wilson]

You know, like. Like that to me would be like, the one thing that if I had anything to ask for again, would be

[Matt Rogers]

that Bo Jackson said something very. He said his mom. And it's just the minute both of you said it, it's like you kind of want to cry.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Because I lost my mom a couple years ago. So when Bo came out of left field, because he had a big pause when he said, and he's like, sit with my mom again. And you saying it about your dad, like, knowing your story about, you know, when that happened. Yeah. I love the answer.

[Russell Wilson]

Yeah, man. We all go through stuff.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Russell Wilson]

Life is challenging, but it's about the people we're around. It's about the people that have influenced us. It's the pep of the people that also hurt us along the way that we gotta just like forgive too. And like, you know, and like, that was a lesson. Maybe God gave us that tough stuff. So that way we can also improve for somebody else down the road and all the things that we go through, right? And it's like, man, like, I just wish I could be with my dad again. There's a great Luther Vandross song, like, with my Father. And he said, like, if I could spend time with my father again, whatever. So, like, I think about that song all the time, you know? But yeah, so that, that would be the one thing that's beautiful, man.

[Matt Rogers]

We, hey, we really appreciate you taking the time.

[Russell Wilson]

I appreciate you guys having official, official

[Matt Rogers]

friend of the show, Russell Wilson. God, yeah. Got him in Nashville now. His team's like, he'll never come on again. He's been an hour, so we'll get you out of here, man. Thank you very much.

[Will Compton]

Appreciate a while. Sorry.

[Russell Wilson]

Appreciate you guys.

[Matt Rogers]

Big hugs.

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