Super Bowl LX Recap: Sam Darnold, Seahawks Dominate Patriots + Pats Future w/ Vrabel & Drake Maye

Summary

Bussin’ With The Boys – Super Bowl LX Recap

Episode: Super Bowl LX Recap: Sam Darnold, Seahawks Dominate Patriots + Pats Future w/ Vrabel & Drake Maye
Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts & Regulars: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan
Guests/Panelists: Clay Matthews, Delaney Walker, Menelik Lumumba, Isaac (and others)

Overview

This episode dives deep into the Super Bowl LX matchup between the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots, focusing on the Seahawks’ dominant win, Sam Darnold’s steadiness, the Patriots’ tough night, and what it all means for New England’s future with Mike Vrabel and Drake Maye. The Boys and their guests mix football analysis with personal stories, plenty of laughs, philosophical digressions, and a candid, locker room-style tone.

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Super Bowl LX: Game Recap & Analysis

Key Takeaways

• The Seahawks dominated the Patriots, 26-19, in what most panelists described as a “snooze fest” due to its defensive, low-action nature (04:53).
• Seattle’s defense was the story, consistently pressuring Drake Maye and stifling New England’s offense (04:32, 05:01, 09:18).
• Both teams played conservatively, especially with field goals over riskier scoring attempts (09:49, 09:56).
• Sam Darnold managed the game without mistakes, while Kenneth Walker’s running was pivotal (04:53, 29:25, 29:50).

[04:53] Delaney Walker

“The defense was incredibly dominant. Exotic blitzes, also got there with four... Drake May seemed like he was a little lost. The offensive line had a tough time protecting; receivers weren't getting separation.”

[05:01] Clay Matthews

“Let’s just call a spade a spade. The super bowl was a snooze fest... the sicko in you appreciates an ass beating schematically, but in this older age, I want to see some exciting football.”

[09:18] Menelik Lumumba

“Just three and out, after three and out, man, it sucked. But I mean, there was a piece of hope in me when Drake threw that touchdown... Then... he threw that insane pick.”

Game Flow & Turning Points

• First Half: Stale, defensive, and low-scoring. Both teams hesitant; nerves and Super Bowl pressure a theme (10:20, 10:51).
• Second Half: Seahawks pull away methodically. Patriots try to mount a comeback, but Maye throws a critical interception (08:26), ending their chances.
• Seattle’s Gameplan: Run the ball, minimize mistakes, lean on defense.
• New England’s Struggles: Conservative play-calling, vanilla run game, little help for Maye, who was pressured into big mistakes (26:46).

[06:58] Isaac

“From Seattle’s point of view: Sam Donald, don’t turn the ball over. Don’t make mistakes. Kenneth Walker, run the ball, run the clock out, let our defense win the game.”

[10:20] Delaney Walker

“Both teams were playing so conservative at points in the game where it's like, now you open it up… but once you get into the second quarter, it’s like okay, now you’re playing.”

[08:26] Clay Matthews

“Start of that series where he missed Austin Hooper... then the next play, throws into triple coverage... then throws that pick. It’s just like, son of a man...”

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Player & Coach Perspectives

Seattle Seahawks

• Sam Darnold: Solid and steady; “not going to let this moment get too big” (20:53).
• Kenneth Walker: Dominant running performance, patience compared to Le’Veon Bell (29:50, 30:16).
• Defense & Gameplan: Aggressive but balanced, with smart blitz packages (notably Witherspoon’s breakout) (27:52).

[29:50] Delaney Walker

“So big bro, he had that Leon Bell type of patience... he's like, but there was one... hits a small little area and gets 7 or 8 yards... very impressive.”

[27:52] Isaac

“The biggest difference… was… Seahawks defensively... simulated pressures… not allowing Patriots to run when they were in too high early and downs... forced Drake into that interception. They sacked him six times... that was the difference maker.”

New England Patriots

• Drake Maye: Rookie QB overwhelmed by Seattle’s defense and bright lights, struggled with protection and pressure (04:32, 26:54).
• Game Preparation: Possible distraction from a Super Bowl media circus; speculation about gameplan install timing (14:00).
• Mike Vrabel: Praised as a culture-builder and motivator who got more out of the roster than expected (62:09).

[63:14] Isaac

“Like, New England… I think they kind of overachieved this.”

[64:35] Delaney Walker

“As much criticism as he's done… and he deserves some of the criticism, the kid… played what, 20 games. He's gonna be a stud.”

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Super Bowl Atmosphere: Media, Halftime, and Off-Field Energy

The Hype vs. Reality

• Many guests recall their first Super Bowl nerves and how distractions—from media to fan obligations—can affect prep (13:38).
• Some felt the pageantry and photo shoots were over the top, especially Seattle’s “styled up” players vs. the Patriots’ business attire (16:10).

[16:10] Delaney Walker

“It was weird that they had SNL cutaway type of things… showing guys doing little photo shoots before the game.”

Halftime Show & Broadcast

• Mixed, humorous reactions to the Bad Bunny/Ricky Martin show. Some didn’t recognize songs, others admired the spectacle (35:35, 35:38, 36:34).
• Critical of the negative media takes, jokes about watching alternative halftime acts (e.g., Kid Rock’s stream) (33:28, 33:43, 35:46).
• Good-natured debate about whether halftime choice should be “kid friendly,” rock, rap, or country—a running joke about what halftime is “for the people” (39:10, 41:47, 42:24).

[35:38] Delaney Walker

“Listen, I didn’t understand a word in the whole halftime show but I thought it was kind of solid... I’m thinking, he’s gotta be saying something cool right now.”

[41:47] Clay Matthews

“ZZ Top. Sharp Dressed Man. Just open it up.”

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Super Bowl City: Impressions of San Francisco

Food, City, and Clean-Up

• Discussion about best Mexican food (Nashville vs. California), in-jokes about language barriers being a sign of authenticity (50:47).
• Observations about San Francisco being unusually clean during Super Bowl week, with speculation that homeless populations were relocated (52:27 through 54:58).
• Guests marvel at visiting Alcatraz, comparing infamous escapes and referencing “The Rock” movie (55:05, 57:04, 58:16).

[54:58] Menelik Lumumba

“In L.A., they fence them up... If you go to skid row, it’s a fence that blocks that whole freeway area... it’s Danger Zone.”

[55:57] Delaney Walker

“You think about those little green balls, dude? Rolling, dude. That’s how I want to view my Alcatraz. Not the way 34-year-old Taylor did…”

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Patriots’ Future, Free Agency & Roster Talk

• Optimism for New England’s future, crediting Vrabel’s leadership, cap space, and Maye’s growth (62:09, 63:14, 64:35).
• Questions about whether they'll keep Will Campbell at left tackle, need WR help, and their free agency approach.
• Seahawks praised for a roster built to last (rookie contracts at key positions, cap room for re-signing stars like Kenneth Walker) (31:01).
• Short preview of AFC, Titans as possible up-and-comers, roster needs, and trade speculation (65:09).

[64:35] Delaney Walker

"As much criticism as he's done... the kid... played what, 20 games. He's gonna be a stud."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Game Quality:
  • “Let’s just call a spade a spade. The super bowl was a snooze fest.” – Clay Matthews (05:01)
  • “It didn’t feel like the most important game of the year at one point.” – Delaney Walker (07:18)
• On Super Bowl Preparation:
  • “When you’re young in your career, you’re like, oh, man, it’s whatever. The next 15-1, we’re gonna be back again.” – Isaac (11:41)
• On Kenneth Walker:
  • “He had that Le’Veon Bell type of patience in the back... it was very impressive.” – Delaney Walker (29:50)
• On Halftime Show & Culture:
  • “Listen, I didn’t understand a word in the whole halftime show but I thought it was kind of solid.” – Delaney Walker (35:38)
  • “ZZ Top. Sharp Dress Man. Just open it up.” – Clay Matthews (41:47)
• On Patriots’ Roster:
  • “New England… I think they kind of overachieved this.” – Isaac (63:14)

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Quick Reference: Timestamps for Key Segments

• Super Bowl LX Recap starts: [04:32]
• Analysis of Seattle’s Defensive Dominance: [07:00–10:20], [27:52]
• Drake Maye’s Tough Performance: [08:26], [26:54]
• Super Bowl Atmosphere/Media Week: [13:38–16:10]
• Halftime Show/Pop Culture Discussion: [33:28–41:47]
• San Francisco Impressions & Alcatraz: [52:27–58:16]
• Roster Outlook and NFL Free Agency Talk: [62:09–66:43]

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Tone & Style

The Boys keep it casual, uncensored, and lighthearted—mixing high-level football IQ with barbershop banter. Humor, inside jokes, and a focus on the personalities behind the game are always present.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is an unfiltered, laugh-out-loud, sometimes tangential but always insightful recap of the Super Bowl LX experience, full of player perspective, smart football talk, and genuine appreciation for locker-room bonds. Whether you’re deeply invested in the X’s and O’s or just love the irreverent side of football culture, this episode captures the post-Super Bowl zeitgeist—with just enough optimism for next season.

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[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And it was exactly how the public saw it. You talk to a lot of people about, hey, like the Sharps are big on Seattle. It's on Seattle, it's on the over. That's where all the money was. Seattle and the over. Did the over end up hitting?

[Menelik Lumumba]

No, it didn't.

[Delaney Walker]

I thought it was like a 45. It wasn't 45.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It was 44 and a half or something like that, right?

[Unidentified Guest]

It was 45, but it wasn't the final score. 1926.

[Delaney Walker]

Then that doesn't count. That doesn't add up. You're right. Doesn't add up.

[Clay Matthews]

But it was, you know, you do the math.

[Delaney Walker]

You do the math. If you carry the one.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And you move it around, that doesn't hit 45. So that's on me for that. But dude, the defense was incredibly dominant. Exotic blitzes also got there with Ford. Drake May, he seemed like he was a little lost. The offensive line had a tough time protecting receivers weren't getting separation. JSN's even out for a quarter. And buddy Kenneth Walker, man, crushed it.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Crushed.

[Delaney Walker]

So how do we feel, boys?

[Clay Matthews]

Let's just call spade a spade. The super bowl was a snooze fest.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah, it was a snooze fest.

[Clay Matthews]

It was boring. Like the sicko in you appreciates, you know, an ass beating or schematically when, you know, as a defensive guy too, Clay, it's like when you see defenses getting home with four, like, oh, man, you know, cover checks, whatever it is, just get after. Like, I appreciate that, but, you know, in this older age, like, I want to see some exciting football.

[Isaac]

You want to see football.

[Clay Matthews]

And I, I, I caught myself because I was on Seattle the whole time. But we had the week there, we had the interview with Variable. Like we're around more Patriots. Like, I started to fall in love with the story. I started to fall in love with the idea, you know what, maybe they can do it. I was hopeful that they did, that they could do it. I bet against them still.

[Delaney Walker]

But you put yourself in a win.

[Clay Matthews]

Win situation, then when it happened, you're just like, yeah, it was always going to be this way. It was always going to be this way. I'm mad at Bo Nicks, I'm mad Josh Allen couldn't, couldn't get it done in Denver. And then I'm mad at Bo Knicks for getting hurt at the end of that game. Yeah, not saying that they would have.

[Isaac]

Beat him, but it would have been more exciting.

[Clay Matthews]

It would have been more exciting.

[Isaac]

Yeah, yeah. No, I just want, I just want good ball. You know, my mother in law said, who do you want? I'm like, well, I like the underdog story of the Patriots. Like we all think Seattle in their defense. You want to see Sam Darnold. I'm like, I just want a good game at halftime. I remember texting you, just being like this. This is a snooze fest. I was just walking around upset. I didn't even watch the fourth quarter, I don't think. But it was just, it's exactly what we all envisioned. And even more so, it reminded me of that 49ers Seahawks game, the two times they played, specifically the week, 16, 17, whatever it was, where Don't. From Seattle's point of view. Sam Donald, don't turn the ball over. Don't make mistakes. Kenneth Walker, run the ball, run the clock out, Let our defense win the game. And yeah, the sicko. And you was like, this is great defense. Like, let's not be confused or let's not be, let's not misinterpret this. This was a dominant souls defense. But like, you know, you want to see both quarterbacks duel it out for 300 like we saw in the Rams. Delaney, you talked about the Rams Seahawks game in the NFC Championship game. Like that is what we want to see in the Super Bowl. And for all, for all intents and purposes, that was the Super Bowl.

[Clay Matthews]

The winner that games, they felt like you sitting there watching at home when that fourth quarter hit and it was pretty much out of reach. It just felt like any old average weekday.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That's what it felt.

[Clay Matthews]

Or you watch a Thursday night game that's. Or any game that's like over where you're just like, all right, let's start getting ready for bed.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, that sucks. Because yeah, you want the super bowl to be great. And they had like a wide view where they had like end zone to end zone and kind of showed the crowd a little bit. And you see guys walking around and just. It didn't feel like the most important game of the year at one point because it was so out of reach. But there was, I mean, you guys talking about wanting good ball. You get to like the part where Drake May goes down the field, throws a dot to Collins in the, in the back of the end zone or in the front of the end zone, you're like, okay, we got a little something. Then they go like four and out.

[Clay Matthews]

And because Delaney started saying this, he started, thank you.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically like, I'm the champion.

[Clay Matthews]

And then once the pages scored, I'm like, oh, something's about that.

[Delaney Walker]

The Patriots get the ball back and they start dicing up and you're like, oh, let's fucking. They're actually about to turn this into a game because as much as Seattle was dominant, they were just kicking threes the whole time. So they had, you know, three possessions with points and it was still a two score game. Like it was nothing. And literally I look at the group chat and I see your text says, what is Drake May doing? I'm like, fuck. Something about to happen. Sure enough, the next play, Drake May just sails one in the middle of the field. I'm like, what the fuck? What are we doing here?

[Clay Matthews]

That one wasn't even the pick. It was the start of that series where he missed Austin Hooper. Oh, wide open. Hooper got right behind the defense. Missed him on the overthrow. Then the next play he throws into like triple coverage. Could have been picked off. Then he went on that scramble.

[Delaney Walker]

Sick though, in triple coverage.

[Clay Matthews]

Then he takes off run on third down. And we're trying to figure out if we're. If. If I'm behind, if I'm ahead. Clumps like, oh, you're. You're lying or something about. About lying. And maybe then the pick happens, and then I'm like, okay, you know what I'm talking about. You thought. Did you think I was trying to cover up?

[Delaney Walker]

I thought you were trying to cover.

[Unidentified Guest]

Up to help me because I didn't see the pick yet.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, got you that. You blew the.

[Unidentified Guest]

The play.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Wow.

[Unidentified Guest]

You were talking about three throws before when he threw it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. And then he throws that pick. It's just like, son of a man. There. There's a long period of time where I want to say Collinsworth came on and said that they hadn't had a first down since, like, the first quarter.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Yes. And it was just three and out. After three and out, man, it's. It sucked. But, I mean, there was a piece of hope in me when. When Drake threw that touchdown and all that was happening before he threw that insane pick, I was like, oh, we're about to have a game. Yeah. Like, a game that's so terrible, but ends up the last, like, 15 minutes is unbelievable. And it wasn't. There was, like, three minutes of like, all right, here we go. We got a little something here. And. And then.

[Clay Matthews]

And it felt like, too, like, Seattle, even when they were taking threes, like, they were almost just playing like, all right, we're in range here.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah. Just right.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, it'd be like, what, third and five or third and six, and they'd run the football.

[Delaney Walker]

It's almost as if.

[Clay Matthews]

Just play for three.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, we're gonna beat this team. Like, this offense isn't gonna move on us. Right.

[Delaney Walker]

It's almost as if they watched the Patriots Bronco game and they're just like, yeah, we'll just take points when they give it to us.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yep.

[Delaney Walker]

And instead of, like, trying to press and get seven or get six, like, let's just take three and let this game come to us in all 60 minutes.

[Clay Matthews]

I want to say, even New England, it felt like, wasn't playing aggressive. They ran the ball on a third and five and just kind of played for field position for. Versus, like, trying to get in. Trying to get in some kind of scoring range.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Collinsworth is bringing that up. Like, both teams were playing so conservative at points in the game where it's like, now you open it up. Like, I understand that the first couple of series on both sides, like, the nerves have to be insane. I mean, you two both know what it's like walking into a Super bowl and how everyone's buttholes are super tight, but once you get into, like, the second quarter, it's like, okay, now you're playing, you should have, like, all the nerves off of you and understand, like, okay, this is just a game. Let's try to.

[Clay Matthews]

Is it like that? Like, when you hit, you know, that first quarter, when you guys are experiencing the super bowl for the first time.

[Isaac]

What year were you in? Because, like, I've always said this. I was only in year two. So in 2009, my rookie year, that's when a Rod started getting hot. We lost that 51 to 49 overtime thriller to the Arizona Cardinals. And so for me, even though the season ended, I was like, thank goodness. You know, you talk about how long that season is, and then the next year, we were kind of underdogs, a 6C. And so I didn't like the Super Bowl. To me, in my second year, like, you don't. You would hope, you know, Drake would have that same. That same mindset, which is like, don't make it bigger than it is. So that's kind of how I approached it. And I think I played Lou, still talking. Talking my stuff out there, like, having fun, and, you know, our defense showed up. But I. I think if I was in year 10 or whatever, it was like, you know, you might be a little tense in the first quarter, like you had mentioned. I'm not sure about you, Dylan.

[Clay Matthews]

I was the only shot.

[Isaac]

Well, you just. I mean, you just realize the magnitude of the game. Like, I think about it now, like, the losses really, like the NFC Championship game against the Seahawks. Like, we beat the Patriots earlier that year. Granted, it was at Lambeau, but that's a Rod versus Tom Brady in the super bowl. And that super bowl still gave us that. The interception on the goal line. But you think of, like, anybody can win one super bowl, like, what about two times? You know, you start thinking like that and, like, what. What type of plays would you have made and what does that mean for your legacy? Like, you start playing those games. But, yo, when you're young in your career, you're like, oh, man, it's whatever. Like, you know, the next 15 and one, you know, we're gonna be back again.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, Yeah, I was. I was in year seven. So that was like, you come out, you. You like, am I ever gonna get here again? I gotta win this game. So you kind of playing with that.

[Isaac]

What the stats here. You got a nice little picture with you.

[Delaney Walker]

That's a nice little picture.

[Isaac]

29 right there. That's.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I forget his name. He was one of those big DBs. No, he was good.

[Delaney Walker]

Lenny doesn't like to learn people's names.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He was good.

[Isaac]

Unless they earn it, right?

[Delaney Walker]

Unless they earn it. Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But no, I was. I'll be honest, I was nervous as hell until to the second half. I think the second half, that's when we came back out and was just like, we done this before we been here. All the guys kind of chilled out after that. But I think being a seven year vet, going in and going to the super bowl, you not really knowing if you're going to have that opportunity to go back. I mean that it's like you got to win because I don't know when I'm coming back and I never went back, obviously.

[Isaac]

But yeah, you signed with the Titans, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[Delaney Walker]

We had a chance. We had a chance. National show. Yeah, you did. We had a chance. We had a chance for Delaney, for you. This when you were in the super bowl playing, what was that week like? And then because you go every year to the super bowl, you're there in San Francisco. Like I'm thinking about it as a guy that's never been there, but watching like opening night, all the media taking place, how it's like a true event for seven days. And I can only imagine how I would be sitting in a hotel room like you. Anytime you get on social media, you realize everybody and anybody in your world is talking about this. Was it like that when you played?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Has it been like everybody's in the city?

[Menelik Lumumba]

I mean, I mean I feel like it was like that. But the magnitude obviously is way better because social media.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Podcasts, you got everybody in there. But I say I wasn't a. As a big. As a star back then. So when you that star, you. You really getting pulled here, here, here. Like you gotta do interviews, you gotta.

[Delaney Walker]

Go meet these people.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You gotta do this. So Drake being young and being a star in him the runner up to mvp, like, I feel like he was being tugged to do a lot of things and. And it almost probably took him away from football a little bit because you there, you know, you get there early. They like, hey, we got a lot of appearances.

[Delaney Walker]

You're Drake.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You got to stop at hospitals, you got to kiss babies, you got to take pictures, you got to do all.

[Delaney Walker]

These interviews and do all the things.

[Menelik Lumumba]

And it's probably like, damn, I made it second year. And everybody tell him how good he is. And sometimes you put that, put football on the back burner because, you know, practice is not as hard.

[Isaac]

Watch. I, I, I, I, I'm gonna cut you off here. But like I read, I thought this was interesting that the Patriots did not install their game plan until they got to San Francisco. So here's what we did in in Green Bay is we spent that first week putting in the install. We treated it. You know, hey, you'd have Tuesday off. We treated it the same Wednesday, you know, Wednesday, shells Thursday, full pads Friday. And then you travel out there maybe Saturday. So the next week, all the you, you were ready to go, but you had another week of preparation. I, and obviously I'm saying this in hindsight now, like, and Josh McDaniels has coached in a number of Super Bowls where even if they've lost Brady Stone for 500 yards, I don't, you know, you look at the result and what you saw. Like, with all the distractions out there, would they have changed things up or.

[Clay Matthews]

The different perspective of maybe football's not on the back burner. Like, football is sitting at the forefront of your mind. And when you're trying to study and do all the ball, but you're also thinking about all the oblig going to have to do. You know what I mean? Like, all right, I got to get all my studying in. I only have like an hour and a half right now before I got to do this or do that to where it kind of just pulls away. That. That's the part that kind of, like, pulls at you because you can't be fully focused on the task at hand.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. How much entertainment is too much entertainment? Like, when we're watching the super bowl last night, every time they would go to or from a commercial break, it'd be like solo shots of, like, Lawrence, like, in, like. And I'm thinking, when did they do this? Yeah. I said to myself, like, okay, we're doing a photo. We're doing a photo shoot for this. Yeah. If someone was like, taylor, Super bowl, we have to do a photo shoot. Even my attention horness would be like, I don't need to. This is. That's ridiculous. I just take a photo. Like, you saw Harold Landry.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Did you see it all? Everybody's in, like, nice outfits or what. They, they're, like, styled up. And then Harold just in, like, the zip up, like, whatever the team gave him. Like, Harold's doing it, right? Yeah. Harold understood the process here. I just thought it was weird that they had Like SNL cutaway type of things where they're, like, showing guys, like, doing the little.

[Isaac]

Yeah, it looked like the Seattle Boys, like, they got dressed up. They looked like Cooper's down on a knee, like new kids on the block. Like, Kenneth Walker's got his glasses. It looked like the Patriots were buttoned up. Like you had said. They had the zip up and whatnot. Like, that was their media day attire. But you kind of get caught up in it all, too, when you go through it, like. And you know, when you're playing, too, you almost feel like you don't have a voice until you're older. You kind of just go with the flow because you don't want to be abrasive. So there's a bit of that. And, I mean, who knows? I actually like that. I know that was.

[Delaney Walker]

That was hard.

[Menelik Lumumba]

If they would have won, it would have just really stayed.

[Isaac]

And the Warriors. I'm blanking on Buddy's name. I just know Matt Collins. I just know he's always barefoot, but, yeah, he scored a touchdown right in.

[Delaney Walker]

Front of the show.

[Unidentified Guest]

Did either of you have a booth at the super bowl for opening night? Your own individual booth?

[Delaney Walker]

You had one.

[Unidentified Guest]

What's that like?

[Delaney Walker]

Man, you know what? I didn't.

[Menelik Lumumba]

One.

[Isaac]

You got were loaded with talent. You think about, like, your super bowl team. I mean, I kind of understand. And to be honest, like we've talked about, you were always playing second fiddle to Vernon Davis. Was he still on the team at the time?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, yeah.

[Isaac]

Yeah. So, like. But they. I mean, everybody. And that was Cap and Frank Gore Smith, like, Bro, you're 49ers.

[Delaney Walker]

I love.

[Isaac]

Like, in hindsight, when you think of those matchups, those were good matchups defensively. Alden Smith with his long ass.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Justice Smith, Smith, Ray McDonald, all the mob.

[Clay Matthews]

Brooks Deshaun Goldstein.

[Isaac]

Hey, so. So, Isaac, what really happened at halftime when they shut the lights off? Because I know San Francisco, you got the electrical substation now. A lot of conspiracy theories floating around. What happened?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, we.

[Isaac]

Back in the game.

[Menelik Lumumba]

We had talked about it on the bus. We had Patrick Willis. I don't know if that.

[Delaney Walker]

Coming out soon.

[Clay Matthews]

It hasn't aired yet.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Well, never mind.

[Clay Matthews]

Delino, break it down and say, look at the dudes in the suit come up right before the lights.

[Menelik Lumumba]

All you got to do is look at the guys that are suits, and you see how it's like shadow. The lights are not even all off. How is the.

[Isaac]

How are the auxiliary lights? You know, Call generator. You know what I'm saying? Just in case there's an emergency.

[Menelik Lumumba]

So the generators don't kick on all the lights. Just.

[Isaac]

They would need a big generator.

[Clay Matthews]

Fat ass. Generator.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Well, big ass Generac. Yeah, Big ass.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Well, no, I think it was. I think it was turned off on purpose.

[Isaac]

On purpose. The game was getting too out of hand.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It was getting out too out of hand and they needed to slow the game down.

[Isaac]

Yeah, it worked.

[Menelik Lumumba]

And I feel like even with the. Like, even. I know it's subtle, but these streakers. The games was getting out of hand. The streaker comes out, slows the game down. Patriots score a touchdown. Keep it 100. Look, think about it. That's how it's like. They do things like that.

[Isaac]

To slow you. Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

To slow the game. I'm telling you.

[Isaac]

Yeah, it's.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It definitely is something about it. I don't know.

[Delaney Walker]

You know, they do such a good job of like. I didn't even know the streaker happened. I was on Twitter and then I end up seeing the streaker. Yeah, but I want to see that on TV now.

[Menelik Lumumba]

They. They. Yeah, they won't do it.

[Delaney Walker]

You see all these things down, like these different gambling apps where you can like gamble on like regular, like everyday stuff. People will bet on a streaker. Like, they'll bet on a streaker and then they'll be the one that streaks and get paid.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, that's what he was doing.

[Isaac]

Or does it sound his bad?

[Menelik Lumumba]

He's streaking. Hey. Because he vetted. He betted on it.

[Delaney Walker]

Zooming on his back with Delaney Hall.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It's something at his.

[Delaney Walker]

Sherman. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Isaac]

Enhance, enhance, enhance. Oh, man.

[Delaney Walker]

As a social media trained flex.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Trained. I don't know.

[Delaney Walker]

I mean, Buddy is. Buddy is rocked up.

[Clay Matthews]

He is. He's got a nice back.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Hey. But when he saw. When he saw a Patriot coming after he saw, he said, was it the.

[Delaney Walker]

Kicker or something like that?

[Menelik Lumumba]

It was 18 a receiver, I think.

[Isaac]

Bro. He. Outside of. Who is it? Christian Gonzalez. He's probably the only one who played defense. Actually, the defense was.

[Clay Matthews]

I'll tell you what, though, early in.

[Menelik Lumumba]

The game, what does. I want to say that if it means something crazy, it's a cryptocurrency. Okay.

[Isaac]

All right. I've never been.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

But I thought, though, based on the first couple series, I was like, Sammy D. Might throw himself a pick at some point, brother. Because Patriots.

[Delaney Walker]

And he.

[Clay Matthews]

He was still slinging it.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

To me, in my mind, he's like, all right, I'm not gonna let this moment get too big. Like, I'm Just gonna cut it loose.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He was cutting it.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. There was one of the linebacker, it was so tight and they went and stabbed his pocket. Everything, bro. Right over his feet.

[Clay Matthews]

When the Titan caught him.

[Isaac]

This is early.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. He has a Barnum. Yeah, Barnum, Michigan, man.

[Unidentified Guest]

Barner.

[Delaney Walker]

Barner, Barnum, Michigan State.

[Clay Matthews]

Clump hit on that first touchdown. Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

That was Porter who shouted out first, though.

[Julian Edelman]

He.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Wait, you called that one?

[Unidentified Guest]

No, Porter did. One of our social contractors. He was like, I have a weird feeling that Barner is going to score the first touchdown.

[Delaney Walker]

So come with us. It's weird. It happened in the second half.

[Clay Matthews]

I know. And then. What do you say? I can't believe it. This Barner touchdown. First touchdown still alive because there hadn't been scored.

[Unidentified Guest]

It was like minutes after that text too.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. I thought the Patriots game plan was real basic too. Like, they didn't. Every time I felt that way when.

[Clay Matthews]

You watched the play, like when we were sitting there breaking down and watching kind of the playoff film, I was like, man, their running game is just duo and one back, maybe a couple zones, and then they get into two back and try to run the ball. And I'm thinking in my head, like, there's no way this team is just going to be able to run the football in Seattle.

[Delaney Walker]

Right? Not a whole lot of motions. And like, when Henderson was in, it was, hey, let's try to get to the perimeter every single time with Pitch Concepts Tackle pulling out to the perimeter.

[Julian Edelman]

This is Julian Edelman from Games With Names. Now let's get into the serious stuff. We're talking football food, specifically Daisy French onion dip.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That is serious.

[Julian Edelman]

Gotta try these delicious new dips from Daisy. These are so delicious. They're like homemade dips made with real herb and spices and other ingredients you'll find in your kitchen. Also made with some Daisy sour cream. Daisy sour cream is a long standing staple for Taco Tuesday.

[Isaac]

You know what I do when I get my street burrito? I get the squirt Daisy. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And every bite. I know you.

[Delaney Walker]

I know you.

[Julian Edelman]

I'm a huge sour cream guy. I love sour cream. So I think burritos can't live without sour cream.

[Clay Matthews]

I completely agree with that.

[Julian Edelman]

They also have Daisy ranch diploma. I love ranch. I love it with crackers, wings, plain potato chip, the ones with the little crinkles, maybe some bell peppers. So get out there and give Daisy French onion dip a try. You will not regret it.

[Clay Matthews]

The postseason is upon us, and there's really nothing like it. But the postseason can be stressful, crushing losses, wild upsets, your unhinged six game parlay falling apart at the literal last second. Things can get rough and it can leave you feeling a little sour. But you got to look at the bright side. Once your team is out and headed to decompress, you can finally relax. Now you can actually enjoy the postseason with all of the heart palpitations. That's why we're partnering with Jim Beam. We want to help you turn that lemon of a loss into delicious, tasty Jim Beam and lemonade because it's really the perfect bevy for the offseason. It's refreshing, it's got the perfect sweetness and a little bit of tang on your tongue. Best paired with stress free watching when your team is out. So gather the boys and grab some Jim Beam and lemonade to make the rest of the postseason just a little bit sweeter. Refresh your season with Jim Beam and lemonade best enjoyed together. Please drink responsibly. Jim Beam Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey 40% alcohol by volume 2025 James B. Beam Distilling Company Clermont, Kentucky.

[Taylor Lawan]

I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow and I have brought it here to iHeart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugats company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls.

[Delaney Walker]

I love you guys show.

[Clay Matthews]

It's one of my favorites.

[Taylor Lawan]

A lot of interaction, guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugots Co. And Stugots Co. Live. So listen to Stegots Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugats Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Clay Matthews]

Welcome to the A Building. I'm Hans Charles.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr have both been assassinated and Black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protest broke out on an unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia.

[Delaney Walker]

At Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College.

[Clay Matthews]

The students had their own protest.

[Delaney Walker]

It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.

[Menelik Lumumba]

To be in what we really thought was a revolution.

[Clay Matthews]

I mean, people were dying 1960, 1968.

[Isaac]

The murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.

[Menelik Lumumba]

This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind.

[Clay Matthews]

Listen to the A building on the.

[Delaney Walker]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And then with Ramondre, it's like, yeah, duo, duo, inside zone. Let's just try to beat him up. And it's like, then the passing game was, hey, let's. Let's drop back and just see what happens. Let's have, like, route concepts. Like, there was no, like, getting. Getting Drake to use his legs. Like, let's roll him out. Hit a Lamar. Like a Randall type thing. Yeah, you fake the handoff. You keep rolling. So he has that. That run option in front of him, but also a flow of, like, wide receivers coming over the top as you just kind of sit there. Like, you kind of just put. It looked like day one install.

[Clay Matthews]

And then that's why I felt like Drake was kind of feeling the pressure because there would also still be guys that he could have hit before he takes the sack.

[Menelik Lumumba]

No.

[Delaney Walker]

And it breaks my heart, too, because, like, they were like, Collinsworth and them who are calling the game were so ready to come out Will Kimball. And to be, like, fair to them, Will did not play good by any means. Like, it wasn't like he had, like, a great game. And, you know, people were just talking like, he played not bad. He played bad, but there were a lot of plays that fingers are getting pointed at him. And I'm like, well, that's not necessarily his fault. One specifically was the bull rush that took place early in the game. Guard hits him and hits him off of Will. Drake starts rolling out to the right because there's pressure on the right side. Ends up ending up in a sack. And they're like, Will Campbell got bullied on that plan. I'm like, well, not really, but they just. There's a couple times, too. Drake's, like, sitting there in the pocket. He's got a clean pocket for seconds, for seconds. And the guards getting just, like, dying a slow death to the point where, like, you look at the guard be like, buddy, that's get ready. You can't really do anything more than that. And then he gets a sack over the top of the guard.

[Menelik Lumumba]

They just showed it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

First sack. I think it was his first career sack. That guy get in there and just bull rushes him.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

I think the biggest difference Maker in this game is like what we saw, we talked about with the Patriots doing, you know, single back. They never had two backs in the backfield. They never brought in or they did bring in six I think one time to block and they hit booty on like a 20 plus yard reception. But you look at the Seahawks and what they did bring in. Witherspoon especially like he hadn't blitzed all year and then he comes out and blitzes like six times more than he had all year. Could have had MVP if they would have counted that interception to Nuosu. Yeah as a sack caused fumble for a touchdown. But I mean that's the biggest difference. I thought we, I think we all understood like hey Seattle roster wise has a better team. But as far as the simulated pressures they had, not allowing the Patriots to run when they were in too high early and downs like it, they just, I think they made the, those, those two weeks because you never know what's going to happen. I think that's what why we all had hoped that the Patriots would find a way to do something but it seemed more of the same. And to be honest, they struggled through the playoffs. We all, we talked about strength of schedules. Now I know they played three of the top five defenses and then played the number six ranked defense. But it was more the same where Seattle defensively speaking found a way to take advantage of at least the left side of the line. But it seemed like it wasn't like.

[Clay Matthews]

But Seattle also just has a great offense as well.

[Isaac]

Like yeah, they didn't have to do anything different. They just ran the ball, don't turn it over, kick field goals and allow your defense. But the defense forced Drake into that interception. They sacked him six times, they got pressure on him, you know, however many times I think that was the, the difference maker then. But I mean it was like, like you mentioned earlier, it was fun to watch from a defensive standpoint but outside.

[Delaney Walker]

Of that like dude, them running Kenneth Walker, like the only time they really got into trouble is when they're like all right, let's try a pass here. Like if it is would have kept running Kenneth, buddy, it would have been even more of a blow up than it actually was.

[Clay Matthews]

He was dominating.

[Isaac]

He was going into a con. I don't know if they can franchise him. I'm not sure. Maybe he was a second round pick. But going into a contract year winning that super bowl mvp like he turned it up.

[Delaney Walker]

So big bro, he had that Leon Bell type of patience in the back. You kind of sit There he's like. But there was one.

[Clay Matthews]

It was just kind of sits Pat's feet and boom.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Because there was one. They were in like a duo type of play. You can see it from the side and it looks like it's all hemmed up. Linebackers are in there. It's like, oh, this is going nowhere. And he just sit in the. Sit in the backfield sitting. And then hits a small little area and gets 7 or 8 yards. He. It was very impressive.

[Isaac]

Charbonnet going down. I mean, you never want to see anybody get hurt. But that was the best thing for him too. And I know obviously we talked about this on one of the shows. Kenneth Walker, how he was running early in the year. But I mean. Yeah. I mean he took advantage of his opportunity. And if Seattle. I mean you look at the rosters too. It's strict segue in here. But you look at Seattle like they're loaded. Like you got your quarterback for another two years, you lock up your running back. They drafted well on the offensive line with Zable. Am I getting that Gray's able.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

Defensively with those DBs, you know, even worry. DeMarcus Lawrence and Williams, you know, they're getting older. They're getting long in the tooth. But like brother, they should be the number one team next year. If not the Rams, like it's gonna be 1A, 1B.

[Clay Matthews]

And on top of all that, they're like, they might be five or six in cap space. Are they top five in caps?

[Isaac]

Is JSN songs rookie deal.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Jason's at a rookie deal. Sam Darnold, like, I think it's weird to say only 100 million as opposed to some of these quarterbacks are getting, you know, half a bill.

[Isaac]

But rookie contract, running back. Yep.

[Clay Matthews]

Squad that they got guys coming back and having that much money to also spend.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

His deals up.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah. I don't think he goes even back money like.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. But it's not like a destination.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Who gonna break? Yeah, I mean that's.

[Clay Matthews]

You think Seattle. Like Seattle's gonna want to take a hometown discount.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Like.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yes, they are.

[Isaac]

But I think as a running guy, how much do. How much does did Derek Henry got re up last year? What's he making? Eleven million.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Thirteen. Right.

[Isaac]

That's nothing.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

I think because we always talk about running backs and tight ends. As much as they come contribute to the offense, they don't make, you know, as much as pass rushers, quarterbacks, you know, comparatively, whatever the word would be where, you know, they're making 50, 60 million dollars. Like a running back who can run for. Should have been 170 if not for the holding call. 150 should have broke Terrell Davis's super bowl record. But nonetheless, like, 12 million is nothing. I mean, I hate to, you know, but cap. And the cap's going up every year, probably another 10 million, you know, it's. So you think they're standing?

[Menelik Lumumba]

I think he gonna test the market just to see where he should stand.

[Isaac]

Well, you should get offers, but March.

[Delaney Walker]

Before the new year opens up because.

[Unidentified Guest]

The NFL salary cap has increased by almost 100 million since 2022.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, because of gambling. That's why I do. Because of Taylor Swift and because of these gambling protocols.

[Isaac]

Games out in Australia, Germany, Ireland and whatnot. You see The Rams and 49ers are playing in Australia next year.

[Delaney Walker]

No.

[Clay Matthews]

How much is that, bro?

[Delaney Walker]

You hate that.

[Clay Matthews]

Think about it, dude. They're right there in Cali. Like, you got a division rival. Like, how far away are you guys from each other?

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

No, no, I'm sorry. Well, you know Seattle. Yeah, something like that. But either way, now you gotta fly. 12 and a half hours.

[Clay Matthews]

You go playing Australia, man, the way.

[Delaney Walker]

You'Re saying it, I'm with you right now.

[Isaac]

You're going off.

[Unidentified Guest]

How'd you feel about the halftime show? While you're on this topic right here.

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, yeah, this. So Clump doesn't have a mic, but he just asked Will about the halftime show.

[Clay Matthews]

Rue wanted to watch. I sent her to a room. You ain't watching this. I'm trying to raise an American.

[Delaney Walker]

You didn't like. Hey, Bad Bunny is American.

[Clay Matthews]

No, he ain't. He don't love us.

[Isaac]

I love how you lean into it all the time. That's why you're so great, Will.

[Clay Matthews]

And then I told Russ I would come down here. Sweetheart, I got something else on for you. She comes down, we got Kid Rock playing.

[Isaac]

Listen to this Alex Jones podcast real quick.

[Clay Matthews]

Diving in the Epstein files over here. Yeah, keep watching Kid Rock.

[Delaney Walker]

Keep watching. You believe this? Look at this room.

[Menelik Lumumba]

How was you able to. What did that come on? The Kid Rock halftime.

[Delaney Walker]

I think it was at halftime.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah. Where at?

[Clay Matthews]

You had to go to, like. I don't even know a different.

[Isaac]

The White House lawn.

[Menelik Lumumba]

The White House lawn.

[Isaac]

I don't know where it was.

[FanDuel Announcer]

YouTube.

[Unidentified Guest]

Just on YouTube. 5 million people live watching or something.

[Clay Matthews]

I saw getting killed.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, I did, too. Yeah, I was. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And again, I was just getting that from my. My ex timeline, but it seemed like everybody was killing the. The viewership.

[Unidentified Guest]

Did it. You watched it?

[Menelik Lumumba]

No.

[Delaney Walker]

That is funny.

[Clay Matthews]

We had. Honestly, we had. We had told Rue, like, production, now that we have the power back on and everything else. Like, we were gonna get the hot tub up and going. So during halftime, we went out and just got the hot tub. But it wasn't for, like, a protest.

[Delaney Walker]

It's all good.

[Clay Matthews]

I told myself, this is. I let my family go and do that. Like, I'm going to join you guys. And internally, I was like, this is me protesting.

[Delaney Walker]

What you.

[Isaac]

Hey, what'd you think of the show, though?

[Clay Matthews]

In all honesty, when I. I don't. I didn't see it. I didn't see any of it.

[Isaac]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

We were just out. We were out in the hot tub.

[Isaac]

I feel like you didn't hang out. You didn't miss much. I don't think there was any contro. Anything controversial about it. I think aside from the song that starts with the violin. Like, I was like, okay, I've heard that song. Like, I had no idea what was going on, but it was filmed in such a way. We talk. Talked about this before the show started. Like, it was. It was cool in that regard, but I felt like a music video. Yeah. I felt like you were there. Like, it was not like the fisheye lens, but, like, I don't know, the way it was filmed. It just didn't look like it was from behind a camera. So it was kind of cool in that regard, but. And then you saw. We talk about Ricky Martin. Looks good, man. He looks good out there.

[Delaney Walker]

Listen, I didn't understand a word.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

In the whole halftime show, but I thought it was kind of solid. I thought he kind of went off a little bit. I'm thinking. I'm like, he's got to be saying something cool right now.

[Menelik Lumumba]

What I did.

[Delaney Walker]

And I love how the. All the plants were people, but they had the plants walking out in the bushes where people falls through the house. Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That was crazy.

[Delaney Walker]

It cuts to him, like, getting up. I'm like, dude, this dude.

[Menelik Lumumba]

And, you know, it was like. It was supposed to be like the 1970s when he fell through. That's why everything changed. It was like the 1970s. Then he walked back out, right into 20, 20, 26. Like, that was supposed to be, like, the message behind it, because I'll use my AirPods and put it on a translation so I can pretty much understand everything.

[Delaney Walker]

We're living different levels.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I mean, you know, he was saying that, you know, they be. They got.

[Delaney Walker]

He was saying that, you Know, dude, when he, when he like fell through the house, I'm like me and Taylor talking a little bit. I'm like, yo, this is like entertaining. I don't know what's going on, but it's, it's solid. Like I don't ever so mad about immediately cuts the two guys grinding at you.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I know.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh.

[Menelik Lumumba]

By the truck.

[Delaney Walker]

What the we doing here? I saw that you're turning to that guy. It's like, I don't know man. Like.

[Taylor Lawan]

But why?

[Menelik Lumumba]

What was that? They was by the truck. I said what was that?

[Delaney Walker]

Right? That was quick little flash.

[Isaac]

Hey, Northern California. Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

[Delaney Walker]

That part right there. I thought that was sick.

[Isaac]

You know it's just a cutaway though, right?

[Unidentified Guest]

Yeah, that part's pretty recorded.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, what? Oh yeah. Oh, okay. I was wondering.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm glad you said that cuz I was about to ask. Oh, that happen.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, that really was a cutaway.

[Isaac]

Yeah, 100%.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I could like.

[Delaney Walker]

I thought, I thought that was. I thought that was incredible camera work. Amazing acting. Cuz. Dude, bad. You see all the celebrities walking by like hey, you excited for the bad bunny? Like no, like people just being like outwardly angry about bad bunny. People forget about how great he was in Happy Gilmore too. Like you don't want to give credit for that.

[Menelik Lumumba]

No.

[Clay Matthews]

What was he, what was he doing in Happy Gilmore?

[Delaney Walker]

He was a caddy.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He was the caddy the whole time.

[Isaac]

You seen Happy Gilmore too? You support yourself.

[Unidentified Guest]

Yes.

[Delaney Walker]

Look, that's him.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, he worked at the Red. He took him from the restaurant.

[Delaney Walker]

He was good. He was good in the movie. Have you not seen the movie?

[Clay Matthews]

I've seen it. I've seen it, but I've kind of forgotten.

[Isaac]

You know that lets you all use. You are.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm thinking there's no way that you've forgotten.

[Clay Matthews]

Remember I didn't watch it the opening night.

[Delaney Walker]

That's okay.

[Clay Matthews]

So when we were talking about on the pod the next week, I hadn't watched it yet. I remember like they played some, you know, but you modern video game type golf at the end for the win.

[Menelik Lumumba]

They loved him until he got the super bowl halftime show. That's how it's just I have like, you know, Donald Trump, they love Donald Trump till he became the president. President. So I mean you got a message.

[Isaac]

From Donald Trump, he sent the cheese graters.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Until he became the president. That's how they loved him until he had the super bowl halftime show.

[Clay Matthews]

How do you guys feel about him sitting down there and God bless America didn't love that.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I didn't see it.

[Delaney Walker]

Didn't love that. That was a clip. It was a clip that showed, like, Bad Buddy was sitting there while they're singing. I don't think it was God Bless America. Was it the national anthem?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Was this real? It was.

[Unidentified Guest]

Was godless.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But was it real?

[Isaac]

Hey, I'll tell you what.

[Delaney Walker]

I mean, my kids. I mean, my kids stand up for the whole thing.

[Clay Matthews]

The one photo I saw, I don't know if, like, that was him. It was the X.

[Isaac]

You saw it on X and it's got to be true.

[Clay Matthews]

I was looking for some rage out there.

[Menelik Lumumba]

So is this supposed to be get mad about anything? That's not him.

[Isaac]

No, that's him at a baseball game, though.

[Clay Matthews]

That a. Even. That a. That ain't the super bowl, man.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I know what I'm saying.

[Delaney Walker]

That don't even look says Yankees in the photo.

[Clay Matthews]

Do that Look.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Look like him to you?

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

That's the game, though, that you set for God Bless America. Was that the Yankees?

[Delaney Walker]

No.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I know y' all over here just be. I'm like, yo, I didn't see that.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, hey, he didn't sing Take Me.

[Isaac]

Out to the Ball Game in the six. That's anti American right there.

[Menelik Lumumba]

How can we tell that?

[Delaney Walker]

I did see the same thing you did. I'm like, why. Why not just stand up?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. And then when I saw, too, they're like, oh, the entire show was in Spanish, blah, blah. I was like, it should be English.

[Isaac]

Lots of clips.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, lots of clips.

[Clay Matthews]

Jake Paul told me not to watch this and go watch Kid Rock. I'm gonna go watch it in the hot tub.

[Delaney Walker]

Fuming.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

So then you. You must have loved last year's Kendrick Lamar super bowl then if you.

[Delaney Walker]

If.

[Isaac]

If you enjoyed Bad Bunny this year, Right? Tell me about last year's.

[Clay Matthews]

Is that when he was doing the. He did the Drake song?

[Isaac]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I mean, that was good.

[Isaac]

Are you with.

[Delaney Walker]

I mean, that was.

[Isaac]

What, gang? Oh, gas. Are you. Are you Drake or Kendrick?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Kendrick, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Kendrick.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It was all Drake. That's before the beef.

[Isaac]

You all Drake. Yeah, I think.

[Delaney Walker]

I think majority. Majority of the country was all drink before the beef.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And then Kendrick came out of nowhere, like, Wait a minor. Hold on.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, hold on.

[Delaney Walker]

This guy. Hey, what we talking about?

[Menelik Lumumba]

What are we talking about?

[Delaney Walker]

Up.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, last name Compton. You know, I'm supporting.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, right.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. That went hard, too.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

But watching it with kids, hey, year before usher, Lil John, 2004, senior year in high school, that was A good one, I think.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I think they changing the dynamic of it because you. You got to think about. Yeah, prior Super Bowls. It's like kid friendly artists that plays that, you know, Everyone knows their music. White, black, Asian, masculine. You know, Kendrick Lamar. I don't know how many people knew his music. Couple of white folks.

[Delaney Walker]

Couple of white folks. Last name Compton.

[Clay Matthews]

I knew it.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Do you know his music?

[Delaney Walker]

Did I know his music before?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

If you. You would have put out one of his popular songs. I know this.

[Clay Matthews]

I've heard this before. That ain't even him.

[Menelik Lumumba]

What did he say?

[Clay Matthews]

That's America.

[Isaac]

He goes, this is America.

[Clay Matthews]

Gambino. Like, that's Bambino.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, that song came out, like, 10 years ago, and, like, last year or two years ago, I'm like, have you guys heard this song? This is America. Song like, this kind of goes, oh.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That was your first time here?

[Delaney Walker]

I think it was like Jack and Gary. Like. Yeah, that's been out for half a decade. Yeah. Clay, if you could have one. One band artist be the halftime show at the super bowl, what would it be for you? What would sing to Clay Matthews the most?

[Clay Matthews]

ZZ Top.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, wow.

[Clay Matthews]

Sharp dress, man. Just open it up. Yeah. Take your time, Clay.

[Isaac]

Yeah, no, I mean, I'd like to be prepared, you know? Thanks, Producer clump over here.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You got. Don't.

[Isaac]

Don't hit me with questions. Unbelievable.

[Delaney Walker]

I texted. I text a couple of times. Like, I'm gonna ask about the halftime show, so make sure everybody knows.

[Clay Matthews]

Make sure it's on the preview.

[Isaac]

Yeah, yeah, put me on the spot. No, I don't know. I think something for the. Like, I'm at the age now where like.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, you, Clay Matthews.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. What does Clay Matthews want to listen to?

[Isaac]

I don't listen to a whole lot of radio, to be honest with you.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay.

[Isaac]

Like, in the car. But I don't even know, like, who are some hot, hot, hot.

[Delaney Walker]

Like, no, no, no. I don't know who hot is. What does Clay, like, listen to?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, it's like, if you could pick the half.

[Isaac]

Oh, you know, it would be really good if you got a bunch of country music stars together. Like, if you were able to get a bunch of, like, old and new country stars up there. Like, because I think country has, you know, that along with pop, has really taken over. So if you get, like, Morgan Wallen and Thomas Red.

[Clay Matthews]

He's just right. He running the Jelly roll playbook right now.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Which I do. I think that would be gas. Yeah.

[Isaac]

100. Because I feel like I Would appeal.

[Delaney Walker]

That's a Nashville.

[Clay Matthews]

After the.

[Isaac]

After the Grammys, I disagreed. Like, they've got. Like, it's not just countries and country anymore. There's a lot of pop.

[Delaney Walker]

I agree.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I agree.

[Isaac]

Like, it could transcend just being a Southern genre of music. So that. That's what I would like to listen to.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I'm gonna say 50 Cent, he did do it.

[Isaac]

He did it in LA with Snoop and all that.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He came.

[Taylor Lawan]

He came out.

[Isaac]

He was upside down.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He was gas. He was a guest.

[Delaney Walker]

That went hard, though.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But give him his own long super bowl and see what he. He'll have, I'll promise you.

[Isaac]

In New York then. Can't be anywhere else.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He'll be. Because he.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, that's right. Because he was talking about him looking like a dollar instead of 50 cents.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, he came out. We were at Oklahoma, Alabama, and he came out in the fourth quarter like, holy. He kind of went off, too. Kind of went off.

[Clay Matthews]

Did you see his doordash commercial?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, yeah. Oh, that was hilarious.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't think they had it on TV, like, on. On the Internet, on social. DoorDash had an ad with 50 Cent. He was.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, he killed it.

[Isaac]

Great job.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, Roll.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He cooking. You know who he cooking?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah, dude, it was Diddy. So, you know, he's like, oh, they got some combs. And then who else it was? It was Diddy. No, I don't think it was Jay Z. And then at the end, he took it.

[Delaney Walker]

He took out the.

[Clay Matthews]

He's like, four years, 50 months. Who's counting?

[Delaney Walker]

Who count?

[Menelik Lumumba]

It's this star life.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, dude.

[Delaney Walker]

We were. When we were watching the game, obviously my kids are in it, but not really in it. Like, they want, like. They're excited about, like, hosting a Super bowl party when it was really just my family plus the neighborhood girl. Yeah. But they, like, want to have snacks. So, like, between one break, I'm like, hey, let's watch the commercials. And you guys tell me what they're trying to sell us. The first commercial to pop up once I said that was that Lace commercial.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, let's all. Let's all watch this one. And he hands you the keys. I'm watching the commercial. I'm tearing up. Taylor and I are, like, sitting there, like, crying. I'm like, so, what are they trying to sell?

[Clay Matthews]

He's like, what do you say? I think I'm retiring. I didn't think this is it. She's like, one last one. Yeah, that's right.

[Delaney Walker]

It shows them being a Kid.

[Isaac]

Oh, I'm. I'm with you guys in, like, the Chevy ad. Like that Chevy ad from a couple months ago. I think was. Was done really well. But there's a part of me when I see LAYS is putting it on, and I'm like, come on.

[Clay Matthews]

Toyota did another one that was, like.

[Isaac]

Family oriented, but, like, I saw it.

[Clay Matthews]

And it was families.

[Isaac]

Well, it's funny because, like, my son and I, we. We planted some. Some bulbs, man. What type of. What are those flowers that come out early?

[Delaney Walker]

Bulbs?

[Isaac]

Well, the bulbs are.

[Delaney Walker]

No, they're like.

[Isaac]

They're like, not white.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't know. Is it 300 bulbs getting planted?

[Isaac]

Yeah, we planted 3,000. My son and I. And I saw the commercial.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he just dunked on your end.

[Isaac]

Well, hey.

[Delaney Walker]

How crazy is that? Just now?

[Isaac]

But that commercial reminded me of my son because I thought of, you know, the father and daughter. Hey, you know, Clay, we. We got to go check on our two. I'm blanking on the flowers right now. It's up.

[Delaney Walker]

But you did 3,000.

[Isaac]

What's the first. What are the first ones?

[Clay Matthews]

Snow Drop.

[Isaac]

Snow Drop. No, like. Oh, man, not the actual name. Like, the.

[Clay Matthews]

Either way. But you're saying you. That wasn't. I. I always like that. That family marketing, because I feel like it just. It ties your heart. You're going to remember the Lays commercial.

[Isaac]

Trying to get you to buy junk. You right, is what I'm saying. You got to see past it.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

That's all they're trying to do.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, you're right.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

That's like, I'm with you.

[Isaac]

They could have put Marlboro on and you'd been like, damn, what a great commercial.

[Clay Matthews]

We're kind of the middlemen, because we might see it and be like, oh, we ain't messing with Lays. But if we talk about the Lays commercial and everybody. Yeah, like, everybody, they might want to.

[Isaac]

Buy legs because they make great commercials, but meanwhile, they're eating canola oil.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Huh.

[Unidentified Guest]

What do you think of the Budweiser commercial?

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, Budweiser. Anheuser Busch back.

[Isaac]

Hey, why is it beer. Why is it beer companies always have the best commercials? What is it about them?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Because they go, they. They.

[Delaney Walker]

You know why? Fastballs, Fastballs, fastballs. But even the former people want to go and do some crazy. Like this right here, this commercial.

[FanDuel Announcer]

Every.

[Delaney Walker]

Every American's like, yeah, but even the.

[Isaac]

Farmer at the end, like, just the dust is in my eye because he's supposed to be a hard ass when he sees the eagle and that.

[Delaney Walker]

Like, they just Coming together.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

They just always find the ways they look being a baby.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Clyde, I know. That was crazy running over there.

[Isaac]

I'd probably say that was a. I enjoyed that commercial.

[Menelik Lumumba]

No, it was a good one.

[Delaney Walker]

That was number one to you.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Give. As you sat back, you're like, all right. That makes up for the halftime show. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

They had for me.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I'm in the country. That's all my neighbors right there.

[Delaney Walker]

So. Country halftime show. ZZ Top 50 Cent. Yeah. If anybody's wondering, Blink 182 would be Blink 182.

[Isaac]

Are they getting back together? Not angels and airwaves or.

[Delaney Walker]

No, they've been together.

[Isaac]

Okay. See, that's right.

[Delaney Walker]

They did a whole tour last year, man. Yeah, whole tour came with the whole album.

[Clay Matthews]

Florida Georgia Line comes back and gets in on the. The halftime show. You're talking about.

[Delaney Walker]

Florida Georgia Line comes back. They need to call bus with the boys and say, thank you. You. That's what they need to do.

[Isaac]

Y. Put them on the map.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

Are they from the bay?

[Unidentified Guest]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

See the clip from the FanDuel party.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I was there when they were, like.

[Delaney Walker]

Going off about Trump when he was.

[Unidentified Guest]

Like, the president or the president of the Epstein files has the floor during holiday.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I was there.

[Delaney Walker]

President of the ep.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, you were at the Fando party.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Dude, how party it was?

[Clay Matthews]

They did it up, bro. It was.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Y. I'm shocked. Y' all didn't go.

[Delaney Walker]

We did.

[Clay Matthews]

We did. We. We did the whole blue carpet thing at the beginning, but I had to take a red eye back packed, and we had to hit another one and show face at. So we had to kind of like, structure it out to where we couldn't, like, stay the whole time.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

We went.

[Delaney Walker]

We went back and they started. They were. Dude, they sounded so good. Hey.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, so you went back and listened.

[Delaney Walker]

Yo. Yeah, they were awesome. They were awesome. We walk up, they have this little, like, a VIP tent thing or whatever, this little area, like the stage on the side, and we walk up, and some guy in a suit's like, man, I. I. Taylor Lawan, right? I was like, yeah. He's like, I have somebody that wants to meet you. We walk over, Gavin Newsom.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Wow. The.

[Delaney Walker]

He's like, hey, man, what it is? I thought you did well on the Sean Ryan podcast. Thought you did well there for a little bit. He was talking about doing a. Hey, I want to come on your show. Want to do this? Yes.

[Isaac]

But you're a maga. You're a maga.

[Taylor Lawan]

Podcast.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. You obviously didn't see my Twitter this past week, man.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. You shook his hand.

[Delaney Walker]

Can I be honest? A firm hand spit in there. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I want to come on. You should come on our show. Yeah, we'll figure it out. Absolutely. Scurry it off from the corner. Went to all the boys like, hey, yo, the craziest just happened to me, getting out there, getting groomed. Yeah.

[Isaac]

Did you get his number, though, at least?

[Delaney Walker]

No number. Firm handshake. I'll say. Firm handshake. Look me in the eyes. Yeah.

[Isaac]

Did he pull you in, though?

[Delaney Walker]

No, he didn't. He didn't. I was ready, though. I had the lat set the base. I'm like, good to meet you, man. Just in case you tried to body my ass. Body me for a second. You was hanging out there, handsome man.

[Clay Matthews]

People were coming after you for the Jeffree star.

[Delaney Walker]

Damn. What's that about?

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know, man.

[Delaney Walker]

Well, why would you. Can't be me.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Who posted that? Who reposted it?

[Delaney Walker]

The world. I had, like, 12 million impressions.

[Isaac]

Disappointed in your. Your Mexican food take in Nashville.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't think there's anything to be disappointed about that.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It ain't touching California.

[Isaac]

I mean, there's a big.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, I agree.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Nashville. Like, it's not Nashville's fault. Like, out west, there's just Mexicans. Here, people are from, like, Ecuador and Argentina and these other.

[Isaac]

And they're not as great as.

[Delaney Walker]

Way farther as.

[Clay Matthews]

We have a Hispanic following, bro.

[Isaac]

Yeah. Hey, watch out. The Hispanic community, especially in East Nashville.

[Menelik Lumumba]

They there.

[Isaac]

I eat dinner out there sometimes. They say, what's up with your boy? And I was like, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Clay Matthews]

Clay, do you think there you can find some good Mexican food in Nashville?

[Isaac]

How you do Vatos Locos?

[Menelik Lumumba]

I got a spot for y'.

[Delaney Walker]

All.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I got a spot, but it's.

[Delaney Walker]

It's Cali taco.

[Menelik Lumumba]

No, it's a. It's lost.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

By green.

[Delaney Walker]

By. In Green Hills Mall area.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Well, no, mine's is in Dixon.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, but I've been to that one as well.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Mall to Dixon?

[Delaney Walker]

No, no, the Green Hills Mall one.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That you're talking about coming to the one in Dixon. They can't speak no English.

[Delaney Walker]

That's what you want.

[Clay Matthews]

That's what you want.

[Delaney Walker]

That's what you want.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I'm saying bust down.

[Delaney Walker]

But if you go, like.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, the.

[Delaney Walker]

The barrier of entry to say, hey, this is good Mexican food is extremely low. But it's not like there's, like, good, like, the Mexican food Is just good in general.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

The ingredients. You go out West. That's great. Mexican.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, it's on a whole nother level.

[Delaney Walker]

Whole nother level.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. The west has better Mexican. Mexican food.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. And that's just.

[Clay Matthews]

But you can find some good Mexican food in Nashville.

[Delaney Walker]

For Nashville, sure.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You can say it like that.

[Delaney Walker]

Wait, clear on a call right now. What are you doing?

[Isaac]

I'm Talking to the Mrs. Yeah, we're on a show. Oh, we're on a show. I'll text you.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey. But, like, yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I thought he was.

[Isaac]

I just missed her.

[Menelik Lumumba]

All right, wait, so was this the breakfast burrito?

[Delaney Walker]

That's the. That actually. That was fire, too.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It was fire.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, we went to the Takaria, which is like, I guess an award winning burrito.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And it was fire.

[Isaac]

Yes.

[Delaney Walker]

It was awesome. This was good, too. This was. Yeah. Good quality, like. Yeah, you can kind of find it anywhere. Mexican food.

[Clay Matthews]

Cafe.

[Delaney Walker]

Cafe, yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But did y' all go to the. The deli bros. Wait, no.

[Delaney Walker]

That's where the boys went. Those boys went there?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Fire.

[Clay Matthews]

It was fire.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Fire.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Did you get the 49er?

[Isaac]

I got the Mick.

[Menelik Lumumba]

The Mick, but Jack got the 49er. Oh, my God.

[FanDuel Announcer]

Fire.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Fire.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I waited in line for like an hour.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. I love sandwiches, bro.

[Isaac]

What'd you guys think of San Francisco other than the.

[Menelik Lumumba]

The. It was Mexican food. It was. No homeless people. Really? They cleaned that up.

[Isaac]

They cleaned them up.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, Little pockets. But, like, anywhere we would go, they'd be like, hey, the city's actually really nice and clean.

[Clay Matthews]

And everybody that loved it would be.

[Delaney Walker]

Like, just wait, come back in a week.

[Clay Matthews]

I see everybody coming on saying, like, oh, he just. Your boy Gavin cleaned it up.

[Unidentified Guest]

It was very clean. It was awesome.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I enjoy. I enjoyed the week out there. Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Well, you probably went near Folsom and stuff, though, like, because Jack took y' all to the hood, to the deli. But so y'.

[Delaney Walker]

All. Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

When you. So you went to Folsom, near that area over there is where all the smokers and stuff is at.

[Unidentified Guest]

Some leaners.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, they lean they bodies. They can't pick their bodies up. It's just bent over.

[Delaney Walker]

It's crazy. Those little kid toys. You press the bottom, the thing will kind of flop down, but their legs will stay. Yeah, it was. Some of these people out here dangling. Had the craziest balance I've ever seen in my life.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Insane.

[Delaney Walker]

And they were slumped, huh? Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That lane right there.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. But, dude, the couple of cats that I saw were like, Hands were touching.

[Menelik Lumumba]

The ground even more.

[Clay Matthews]

More so. Ad when they talk about, like, cleaning it up, like, what happens, they just kind of, like, forcefully. They're like, hey, go somewhere.

[Menelik Lumumba]

They bust them out. But then they put.

[Clay Matthews]

What is that?

[Isaac]

Incentivize them.

[Delaney Walker]

They get the homeless. Like, hey, come here. We have something for you.

[Clay Matthews]

Like what?

[Delaney Walker]

And they put them on a bus.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

They literally drive them out of town.

[Unidentified Guest]

Free food, free drink. Just get on this bus and we'll take you somewhere.

[Delaney Walker]

Right.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Also, too, with.

[Clay Matthews]

That's how they get. That's how they get them to a different area.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Well, also, people of San Francisco are like, hey, well, if you can do this, like, why aren't we doing this all the time?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Because they're gonna come right back. They'll come right back. Also you. What y' all don't know is they fence them in another area and just let them stay over there.

[Isaac]

Like, sound like you're treating zombies or something.

[Delaney Walker]

Legit, dude. That.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Like that.

[Delaney Walker]

You see that a couple times.

[Isaac]

So they're.

[Menelik Lumumba]

This is actually what sounds.

[Delaney Walker]

They're not tying their shoes like that.

[Clay Matthews]

They're the spots that we were at. It'll look like that most of the time.

[Menelik Lumumba]

They'll just be sitting there panhandling, tweaked out because they. You, man, bro, do you think homeless people not gonna be out during the super bowl trying to panhandle? This is the most people they gonna see. They had those boys. I. I don't know where they put them at, but people were saying they got them fenced up somewhere.

[Delaney Walker]

You talking about fenced up is crazy.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah. I'm telling you, bro, them in there in la, they fence them up. If you go to skid row, it's a fence that blocked that whole freeway area. And they all live in there. You go in there, it's Danger Zone.

[Delaney Walker]

That is crazy. You know, that is nuts. Hey, we went to Alcatraz, though.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I know. I saw.

[Delaney Walker]

So much fun.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, you went with the Pro Bowlers.

[Delaney Walker]

No, we went with a bus with a boys crew.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I know, but I know the problem.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Isaac]

You guys play Call of Duty at all? Like, that. All that did was remind me of Rebirth Island. I was like, man, it's so.

[Delaney Walker]

Brought that up a couple times.

[Clay Matthews]

Clump brought it up, and people were kind of questioning him, and he was like, I'm telling you, this is a mess. Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

Like that yard. And I. I'm like, is this Rebirth Island?

[Isaac]

Yeah. Loosely. Loosely based.

[Delaney Walker]

It's badass. It was awesome. But you. Then you said, at the end of the thing, the tour, they start talking about how, like, the. The prisons now are way more like intense and dangerous. I want my Alcatraz. I want to feel like Alcatraz is like the most all time dangerous prison. Kind of sound like a bunch of boys hanging out was. Yeah, it kind of seemed like, oh, you just trying to get away from the world.

[Clay Matthews]

It was.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I mean, some of the most notorious going on.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, it was probably.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I mean, but the mafia ran it, so it probably was as smooth as it can be because you probably couldn't do.

[Delaney Walker]

You said the mafia ran Alcatraz.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Most of the. The. Most of the mafia was in there.

[Delaney Walker]

Prisoners. Okay, yeah, yeah. That makes more sense.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But I think they're saying it's dangerous because you couldn't escape.

[Isaac]

You.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I mean, one person did escape. They don't know if he ever made it, but.

[Delaney Walker]

Because three.

[Isaac]

Three guys in how many years?

[Delaney Walker]

What's that?

[Isaac]

I'm sorry. Well, I'm sure they probably told you if you took a tour, like, how many people escaped and how many. Like, how many people escaped Alcatraz?

[Delaney Walker]

There's three. There's. So there's one famous story of three guys who use spoons to, like, carve out some of the cement blocks and they went like, in the. The walls up and over and then got on a raft. These three guys. The raft was found, but these three guys were never found.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Was the raft found on shore or just floating in the water?

[Delaney Walker]

I don't know about that. They didn't go into detail about that, but they say that these guys. It probably drowned. Sharks, the whole thing.

[Clay Matthews]

Sharks.

[Delaney Walker]

Because, you know, growing up, that's why.

[Clay Matthews]

They dug out with those wooden spoons.

[Delaney Walker]

Ain't no way. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Y' all saw.

[Delaney Walker]

Because then Clump started bringing up all the conspiracy theories and they were actually helped out of there. It's. It's.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, I think they were helped out of there.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

The spoon theories on Twitter now they, like, you can't scratch through those walls most.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the way they had them all kind of set up with the masks and everything, like in the cell, the way it was. It's. Is pretty badass. Play a little baseball.

[Menelik Lumumba]

So they had total attempts. 14.

[Delaney Walker]

There was a moment, though, Clay, we. We, like walk down these stairs that are super steep, and we look out, like, look at this view. Why would you want to leave? Yeah, they had gardens, dudes hanging out, just playing cards.

[FanDuel Announcer]

Why?

[Menelik Lumumba]

They say they shut it down.

[Delaney Walker]

They. Yeah, deteriorating. But there was something else Someone brought up something about, like something was going on, the way they were treated. Like they left a guy in solitary confinement for too long or that solitary confinement was crazy. Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest]

They would just throw a pen to keep themselves busy because it was just so. It was pitch dark.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Pitch back.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. It was interesting. It was. Yeah. It's badass. If you've seen the Rock with Sean Connery.

[Isaac]

Yeah, yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

What a movie. You think about those little green balls, dude? Rolling, dude. That, that's how I want to view my Alcatraz. Not the way 34 year old Taylor did. Like, oh, this is just a hangout place.

[Menelik Lumumba]

And how many people did it hold at the time? How many inmates could.

[Delaney Walker]

I was kind of small.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That's what I'm saying.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Because it was like the notorious of notorious, right? Yeah. Killers.

[Unidentified Guest]

There are people there for like tax fraud.

[Delaney Walker]

I mean, but that, that, that wasn't tax fraud. Al Capone. Al Capone was like a top mafia guy in Chicago and they couldn't peg him for anything, but they got him for tax fraud and that's why they sent to Alcatraz.

[Unidentified Guest]

I saw some other people that said.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Like, he was a killer.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Alcatraz was like what they call a maximum security plus or like whatever. It was like this was like the top of the top. The worst of the worst. Now there's like 30. We have like 30 prisons like that now. Yeah. All over the place. Because you finish the tour and they have this big screen that like shows the different areas that have like maximum security.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And it talks about how, like these ones are way more intense than Alcatraz ever was. And that's where I was like, like, man, I want my, I mean, all my Alcatraz to be scary.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Think about it. I mean, prisons now. These cats can make knives out of a plastic fork.

[Delaney Walker]

Those little, those little balls, man. How scared were you when you're watching that the first time?

[Clay Matthews]

You don't remember the movie?

[Menelik Lumumba]

I don't remember the movie, but I, I. You didn't watch that.

[Isaac]

You got to watch it.

[Delaney Walker]

I watch one of those little balls start bouncing. That's a great film. That's a great film.

[Taylor Lawan]

Prime.

[Isaac]

Nick Cage, too.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, yeah, for the face.

[Delaney Walker]

So Sean Connery, but yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Dude.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, man.

[Delaney Walker]

Alcatraz ripped. What else did we do?

[Clay Matthews]

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[Unidentified Guest]

You know, we should talk about though. Mike Van.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, man. Damn. I you know.

[Delaney Walker]

Season taste of the off season provided by Jim B. Man heart goes out to New England patriots Drake May. But mostly more than anybody, Mike Vrabel sat down with the boys at 6am on Tuesday. Talked about cut off half lever six just maybe the best sound bite we've ever had with busting with the boys.

[Clay Matthews]

It's a rare prime Mike Vrabel form. Like his personality.

[Isaac]

You got him to loosen up a bit. Not that he's overly tight, but he's a coach now, you know, you can't. You can't act the same. It was, it was a good interview.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Well, damn. No, he does, though.

[Clay Matthews]

But even also, even followed up talking about being proud of us and like sending us a clip like this. The most authentic.

[Delaney Walker]

This is the most authentic version of us. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

It just feels like it's fully just developed over the last decade of knowing.

[Delaney Walker]

Right.

[Clay Matthews]

The last several years.

[Delaney Walker]

Like having a. Like a moment of reflection in his hotel room.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Thinking about the friendships he's had and took the time to text us.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

Well, I, I obviously think that's. That's awesome for you guys, but I think that also lends to the fact of what. Fact of why he's such a great coach, too. Yeah, I, I don't really know him all that well. We played around the same time. But just hearing the relationship that he has with you guys and, and the way he talks to the media, like, he just. He feels like he's just present. He's there. Like he's a great leader of men. And, and honestly, like, you know, looking in hindsight, because we talk about Seattle's roster, like, like New England's. I think they kind of overachieved this.

[Delaney Walker]

Oh. Oh, absolutely.

[Isaac]

And like, I don't. You know, you look at Drake may only being in year two, maybe, you.

[Clay Matthews]

Know, would they say on the broadcast, like 30 first year players on the.

[Isaac]

Roster, but it just felt like 31st.

[Clay Matthews]

Year or 30 something.

[Delaney Walker]

Because they're also top five in cap space as well. Right.

[Isaac]

They're going to need some. I mean, you talk about Campbell like, are we. Are we. Are the Patriots going to keep him out there? Left tackle? Do you move him in? Do you add some help? You might need another wide receiver defensively. I mean, us. You know, like, I. I just think there's a lot of holes there.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

I think they're probably still the front runner in the afc. You really think East?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, these.

[Delaney Walker]

But. Yeah, but you got the Bills, man. But Joe Brady, head coach now, but.

[Clay Matthews]

Going 17 out of four and four. Super bowl runner up first year after two years of three and 14.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, my God.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Three or four and 13. Four and four. Whatever the.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, whatever it is.

[Clay Matthews]

Whatever it is. They won four games previously.

[Delaney Walker]

You're right. Like, Will Cable do You keep him in a left, you get a tackle in there. But also, dude, think about your rookie season and hitting the rookie wall in like mid to late November. And you're gonna keep playing over. And you played, you played three top five defenses. The number six, like as much, much criticism as he's done. And he deserves some of the criticism, the kid. I mean, he played what, 20 games.

[Clay Matthews]

He's gonna be a stud.

[Delaney Walker]

He's gonna be a stud, man. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

When I felt worse, the worst for him is that false start when he was kind of rocking.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And then the end comes and still bulls him and pushes him on his back.

[Delaney Walker]

I was like, we've all been there, man. Yeah, it's a terrible feeling. A terrible feeling. But yeah. Pouring out for the New England.

[Clay Matthews]

A lot of optimism though. You got variable.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, he got very well.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It ain't easy to go back though. You know, you. Like you said you can, you can get, you can win.

[Isaac]

Like who Dan Campbell when they lost the NFC championship game a few years ago in our only chance.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

Name him back since.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

I'll tell you what, you a sleeper in the afc. You brought him up earlier in this podcast. Tennessee Titans sleeper this year.

[Isaac]

Let's just get to like six, seven wins. I, I really like their coaching staff.

[Delaney Walker]

I love great coaching staff.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Great coaches, great coaches.

[Isaac]

Who'd they bring in outside of solid? There was another obviously D. Sorry.

[Clay Matthews]

And Gus Bradley's their dc.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Gus Bradley.

[Isaac]

Hey, they made all the right moves this off season. Find out if Cam Moore is that guy.

[Delaney Walker]

Cam's that guy around.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Can we get somebody to help him?

[Delaney Walker]

Can you get the offensive line to play better because you have the talent on it. Picks like this year we have the fourth overall pick.

[Isaac]

Trade back for two ones. What are we thinking here? Yeah, put your GM cap on.

[Delaney Walker]

I think it just depends on number one.

[Isaac]

Yeah. Well, we look like you could probably bring Kenneth Walker.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You don't want Kenneth Walker fourth pick in.

[Delaney Walker]

They could probably bring Spears.

[Isaac]

They can bring in Derrick Henry.

[Menelik Lumumba]

35 pick Johnny Smith.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, wait.

[Menelik Lumumba]

We got five, two, five round picks.

[Isaac]

Rams got two first round picks with that trade to Atlanta. Was it.

[Delaney Walker]

And being chic, the Rams do.

[Unidentified Guest]

Man.

[Clay Matthews]

Rams have two first rounders.

[Isaac]

They have two they made.

[Delaney Walker]

They'll trade that. They'll get a nice player.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Somebody good.

[Isaac]

Check out, check out the Rams real quick.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I want to see we eight players should help. We should be able to get some from some good out of eight players.

[Isaac]

Are they going to contribute though?

[Menelik Lumumba]

We'll see how this. We'll see how this GM do it Do a. Do this year on picking guys who can actually play and team.

[Clay Matthews]

How are the packers going to do, bro? Did you see Michael Parsons and Miles Garrett sitting down doing like a.

[Delaney Walker]

They did Miles Garrett botting Michael Parsons.

[Clay Matthews]

Miles Garrett was cooking.

[Isaac]

No.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

What. Well, first off, I'll answer your question, but what would they cook them? And what were.

[Clay Matthews]

They were. I mean, they were obviously having, like, a band back and forth, and Miles Garrett was just on his A game with comebacks to.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Defensive player of the years. How long it took you, like, supposed to be us in the super bowl this year. And Miles Gary's like, man, we wasn't healthy. You were fully healthy when we beat you. He was just giving it back to him, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

Killing him.

[Isaac]

No, I mean, listen.

[Delaney Walker]

Being like, hey, y'.

[FanDuel Announcer]

All.

[Delaney Walker]

And he's like, y'. All. Like, I'm more than one. Damn.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That's what he was saying.

[Delaney Walker]

He didn't say one of one, but, like, the. The way. The way the Clips were going, it seemed like Micah was trying to press Miles, be like, I'm the best defensive end.

[Clay Matthews]

He's like, your light is dimming. He's like, just because your light is getting bright. I'm not sure whatsoever.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, that, by the way, is a bar.

[Isaac]

No, I. I think. I think Miles Garrett is a better pass rusher. I think Micah Parsons is a better athlete and probably a bet like a more impactful defense.

[Delaney Walker]

So.

[Isaac]

Yes, because you think of more impactful.

[Delaney Walker]

That's. That's the. One of the craziest things you've said as a.

[Isaac]

As a pass rusher. Like, you just.

[Delaney Walker]

You're.

[Isaac]

You're to one side of the field. You look at Miles gary, he got 23 sacks. Incredible. Like, you know, it's going to shitty.

[Delaney Walker]

Team who is always losing.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Isaac]

Okay. I'm not diminishing what he did.

[Delaney Walker]

Sounds like you are.

[Isaac]

I'm not. But what I'm saying is, like, he's on one side. Like, Mike is moving all around, you know, as far as production, I want 23 sacks over 11 or whatever Micah finished with. Might have had, like, 14, 15. But, like, the fact you can move. Move them around, make him a spinner. I think it. It helps everybody else around there, not just the DBs. From a sack pressure standpoint. That's all.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Don't he always go against the left tackle, Miles Gary?

[Delaney Walker]

No, he'll move around. He'll go. And he'll go in that rover set where he goes in the guards going the right time.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That's all I say.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes. I'm just saying, like, 23 sacks on the Browns where, like, every team is running the ball in the second half.

[Isaac]

I agree. I'm not diminishing that.

[Delaney Walker]

18 by week 13.

[Isaac]

Time defensive player of the year.

[Clay Matthews]

He's like, brother, he brought those trophies in and gave him.

[Isaac]

He'll probably break the all time. Well, shoot. What's.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, what's.

[Isaac]

What are his sacks at right now? He's got. He's got to get to 199 to be the number at least. Tie Reggie White? No, not Reggie White.

[Unidentified Guest]

Mar.

[Isaac]

Nope.

[Delaney Walker]

Clay Matthews.

[Isaac]

No, I had to play for another 11 years. He's got 100. He needs to get to 199. And he's in. What year is this?

[Delaney Walker]

Eight or something.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He already got 125.

[Isaac]

That's insane.

[Delaney Walker]

That's insane. Yeah. And, dude, I mean, I get what you're saying. Like, I'm not taking anything away from Micah Parsons and how incredible he is because he's a great player. But you. If you're looking at people you don't want to go against, that's the number one person you do not want to go against.

[Isaac]

Bruce Smith. 199. Is it 200 and somebody has 199. Right. Okay. And then it drops off to. I think Kevin Green and Julius Peppers are tied at like 1 61.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He might not get close.

[Isaac]

The drop off, like, top five. Then you just. You hope to crack a hundred, and if you get to 100, you're like.

[Menelik Lumumba]

That made you 125 already.

[Delaney Walker]

103.

[Clay Matthews]

Insane.

[Isaac]

No, I. Wow. Regular season, I 91 and a half. Postseason, I got 11.

[Clay Matthews]

So you got 100 sacks?

[Menelik Lumumba]

No.

[Isaac]

Yes, I do. I like the sacks.

[Clay Matthews]

But like, in your career, you got. You eclipsed 100.

[Isaac]

But like, a lot of times, like, for instance, if they're going to say Bruce Smith or Julius Peppers have X amount of sacks, they will not count postseason at all.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But how do we count? But now with the new era, they do.

[Isaac]

You'll see, like, including the playoffs, they'll use it just to. To say they.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, but now we. What? They added two more games, though. So how.

[Isaac]

It doesn't matter. Back in the day, they used to have 15 games before they went to 16. So, like, we'll forever be beaten. You know, Today's generation will be beating.

[Delaney Walker]

17 because he was there for what, three games?

[Clay Matthews]

It's a game.

[Isaac]

There's no bigger. But why does. Why is the MVP voted on at the end of the regular season. Then they got it right this year based on what happened in the postseason. But like if they would have watched that, I think run away by Stafford.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I feel like that was right what's happening right now.

[Delaney Walker]

But that was huge.

[Isaac]

No quarterback. No.

[Menelik Lumumba]

No quarterback. Should have got it.

[Isaac]

Who should have got it then?

[Menelik Lumumba]

Puka.

[Isaac]

But he didn't win offensive player of the Year. JSN did.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I mean, JSN should have got it then.

[Delaney Walker]

All right, that's all the time we have today.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I don't think Savage should have got it.

[Clay Matthews]

You don't think Stafford should get the mvp?

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, hey, Delaney, why that's the craziest thing you've ever said on this.

[Isaac]

Because. Let him elaborate.

[Menelik Lumumba]

No, it's just.

[Isaac]

Because you tell my man to wait.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You got poker. You throwing two. You throwing a screen of puka. He turning into 80 yards. You throw him a two yard slang.

[Isaac]

Turning into shots to Sydney Sweeney too.

[Menelik Lumumba]

So, I mean, it's by doing all the work and they get the accolades when he was really the key factor. If they didn't have Puka, she wouldn't have had his.

[Clay Matthews]

We make him look good.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I'm a skill player. We make.

[Clay Matthews]

You ain't no Puka. Nakua.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I was puking Nakua for the Titans. Yes, I was.

[Isaac]

And 1600 yards.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I was.

[Delaney Walker]

Different position.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I plan tight end. I'm triple team every time. Yeah, you look.

[Clay Matthews]

You saying you ain't even a Higby.

[Menelik Lumumba]

You have all these people who did.

[Isaac]

They knew.

[Menelik Lumumba]

We don't even have to cover these guys. Cover 80. Cover 82 and still getting.

[Delaney Walker]

Have you seen. Have you seen the comments in the locker room?

[Isaac]

Hey, you might not be Puka, but you were the champion this year on the locker room.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I am the champ. I am the champions. I am the champ.

[Clay Matthews]

I think too what we're failing to understand. Zooming out. Your comeback.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Best comeback.

[Clay Matthews]

One of the greatest comebacks you've seen in the history of sports.

[Delaney Walker]

History of gambling. For sure.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Last place to what week?

[Clay Matthews]

Like. Like a bad last place.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah, I mean, y'.

[Isaac]

All.

[Delaney Walker]

The lady might be mathematically eliminated. Close to. I think you might have said that on the show.

[Clay Matthews]

Taylor was doing his thing. And I just remember in my head like I'm laughing with it and also thinking like, yeah, that's a bad. He's. He's out of it.

[Menelik Lumumba]

And I'm sitting there like.

[Clay Matthews]

Or he's had a terrible year, you know, Terrible year. Especially because you had what, the 13th, number 13 gambler Nashville.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah. And his name is Delaney Walker.

[Isaac]

You took his spot.

[Menelik Lumumba]

He's like, so.

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Come on.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, locker room. Next year's gonna be awesome. Yeah, we're. Switch it up. We'll do units. We'll do a whole. We'll do. We'll do a big.

[Menelik Lumumba]

If we do units, it's really about to be over.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah. Especially when you start doing crazy lines.

[Menelik Lumumba]

I can't wait.

[Delaney Walker]

What? What?

[Isaac]

The money part of it.

[Menelik Lumumba]

It's part of it, right?

[Delaney Walker]

Rams playing the Panthers.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Oh, no, no. We gonna pick.

[Isaac]

We not.

[Menelik Lumumba]

But we gonna let Clump pick the game still.

[Clay Matthews]

It's just units. It's units.

[Delaney Walker]

Units.

[Clay Matthews]

Whatever. You take a big time favorite go money line, like, and you win a few bucks, that's tacking onto your unit.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And whoever's got the unit.

[Isaac]

Biggest unit.

[Clay Matthews]

The biggest unit at the end of.

[Isaac]

The biggest winner, too.

[Unidentified Guest]

It's like when you put a bet in, it says $10 to win. Whatever. So we'll know. We'll just track this.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, we'll need FanDuel to track. Help us track everything.

[Delaney Walker]

It'll be.

[Unidentified Guest]

It'll be easy.

[Delaney Walker]

It'll be difficult, though, because some of the bets we do on the locker room, we also do more bets outside the locker room as well.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Well, you should only be allowed to whatever your card.

[Unidentified Guest]

Lock room is what we'll track.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[Unidentified Guest]

You can change them. We can edit the card. We'll. We'll work on it.

[Isaac]

We've only got six months to get it right.

[Unidentified Guest]

Does that mean you're back?

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, yeah.

[Isaac]

Hey.

[Delaney Walker]

That'S a verbal commit. That's a verbal commit right there. Clay's a man of his word, too. That's the thing. Like this nil thing that goes on with kids can commit and not commit. Like, Clay would never do that. He's a. He's a real man.

[Isaac]

You hear a holdouts, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in my. I'm in the fr. You guys are franchising me so I can withhold services until you. You know what I'm saying? I want that.

[Clay Matthews]

We're putting the franchise tag on you so that way we can negotiate with.

[Isaac]

You, and then you have a little pressure. I can and withhold my services.

[Delaney Walker]

Clay Matthews finding the loophole. Hey, that's all we got for the recap, guys. Big hug, san. Hey, big round of applause for Delaney Walker, the king of the lock room. We will see you guys. This is the last recap of the year.

[Clay Matthews]

Last recap.

[FanDuel Announcer]

Oh, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

We got to get a. We got to get a paintball they said we got to get just outdoor stuff set up.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Let's do it.

[Clay Matthews]

Crew right here.

[Menelik Lumumba]

Let's do it. Let's do it. All right.

[Delaney Walker]

Big hugs, tiny kisses.

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