Week 11 NFL Picks: Are The Eagles In Trouble? Chiefs vs Broncos & Is Seahawks-Rams Game Of The Year?

Summary

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Bussin' With The Boys: Week 11 NFL Picks – Are The Eagles In Trouble? Chiefs vs Broncos & Is Seahawks-Rams Game Of The Year?

Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Clay Matthews, Delaney Walker (+ Jack)
Episode Theme: Week 11 NFL preview and picks, with deep dives into top matchups, team culture, betting trends, and inside player perspectives

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Episode Overview

This week, the Bussin’ With The Boys squad (Clay Matthews, Delaney Walker, Will Compton, and Jack) deliver their signature blend of former player insight, humor, locker room energy, and elite banter as they break down Week 11's most intriguing NFL matchups.

The guys debate if the Eagles are in real trouble, dissect Lions-Eagles and Seahawks-Rams as possible season-defining showdowns, and analyze the Chiefs-Broncos AFC West clash. The conversation weaves through player injuries, locker room vibes, offensive/defensive schemes, key player performances, and bold bets for both casual and hardcore fans.

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Standings & Opening Banter

• Clay is hurting but soldiering on: “Yes. I'm in a boot. Was I in the hospital last night till 3am because my foot hurt so bad? Yes. Is this gout? No. Did this come because of gout? Most likely.” (00:03)
• Delaney leads the standings at 5–1 last week. Clay: “If he does this three weeks in a row, he'll be above .500.” (00:38)
• Will and Clay remain even, with Clay bemoaning his 1–5 record and injuries.
• The crew debates the brutal grind of the NFL and the self-medication cycle following injuries, with Clay getting real about painkillers: “I just hate the fact that I'm taking pills. Cause I already. I just hate that.” (10:44)

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Key Games & Picks

1. Chargers at Jaguars (21:02)

• Spread: Chargers –2.5 | O/U: 43.5
• Delaney: Takes the over, noting the Chargers’ offensive tempo and Jags' shaky defense: “I just think the Jaguars right now...they just a team that don't know how to win yet.” (24:54)
• Clay: On the Chargers, highlights Herbert’s rapid release and success vs. blitz teams. Chargers' resurgence is attributed to coaching: “I think Chargers culture, Harbaugh, really starts to get into gear.” (22:26)
• Will: Also takes Chargers, noting Herbert leading despite adversity, “They're four and one in their last five…He’s doing the most with as least amount as possible.” (23:23)
• Jack: Follows the group, emphasizing coaching and Herbert’s ability to win ugly.

Notable Moment:
Delaney pokes at his own newfound hot streak: “Switching up goes one to five. Last week, he's changed the whole game.” (21:10)

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2. Buccaneers at Bills (26:32)

• Spread: Bills –5.5 | O/U: 47.5
• Clay: Bills, but cautiously: “This is a show me game for the Bills…Josh Allen, who's the reigning MVP, has not had the season he's wanted to have.” (29:13)
• Delaney: Takes Bills, expects a ground-heavy offense via James Cook: “The way they got in trouble last week against New England was the big plays...I think this is a game where...they're going to rely heavily on the run game...” (29:13)
• Will: Bucks +5.5! Leans on Baker Mayfield’s resilience under pressure; expects a close game and likes the matchup with Bills’ shaky run defense: “I like Baker Mayfield under pressure...If Buffalo does win, it'll be five and a half or less.” (33:39)
• Jack: Waffles but eventually sides with the Bills. Admits he’s splitting from Will’s picks to try catching up in the standings.

Notable Stats:
Delaney: “Since 2023, the Bills are 9 and 0 at the 1pm slot at home including playoffs, undefeated.” (31:58)

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3. Chiefs at Broncos (38:01)

• Spread: Chiefs –3.5 | O/U: 44.5
• Will: Broncos! Points to their defense and Vance Joseph’s track record: “Chiefs favored...You know where I'm going. It's Broncos.” (38:01)
• Delaney: Picks Chiefs, but cautions that Denver’s elite defense keeps them dangerous: “But there's a real problem in Denver right now, and it's the quarterback play.” (38:51)
  Adds a wild stat: “Mahomes 8 and 1 when he’s sacked three or more times in a game.” (40:51)
• Jack: Chiefs. Sees Broncos’ record as “sus”: “8 and 2. It’s a sus 8 and 2.” (41:50)
• Clay: Chiefs and leans under, citing Broncos' struggles with turnovers and penalties: “The Broncos also...are the most penalized offense in the entire NFL. And so they're shooting themselves in the foot more than one. And if anybody knows about foot pain right now, it is me.” (44:35)

Memorable exchange:
Will: “You're a Chiefs Dick Rider though. Taylor, who you got in this game?” (42:27)

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4. Lions at Eagles – Sunday Night Football (47:04)

• Spread: Eagles –2.5 | O/U: 46.5
• Big storyline: Dan Campbell takes over as Lions’ play-caller.
• Clay: Likes the Lions, sees the transition as cultural and strategic: “Dan Campbell calling plays. I like the Lions here.” (48:44)
• Delaney: Also picks Lions, criticizing Eagles’ inconsistency and the conservative approach: “They do enough to win the game. They're almost hoping their defense makes a play. But I like the Lions in this one.” (48:44)
• Jack: Backs Detroit, describes the Eagles locker room drama: “I think they have some in house situations going on, like the mom and daddy fighting and the kids can't tell nobody.” (51:31)

Notable Quotes:
Clay: “The Lions, it's. Dude, this is culture to me.” (51:31)
Delaney: “If they can get this lead and force the Eagles to try and come out of their shell, their conservative approach, it's going to be difficult for them.” (49:53)

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5. Cowboys at Raiders (62:14)

• Spread: Cowboys –3.5
• Entire crew: Cowboys. Raiders get roasted: “Cowboys have an abysmal defense, but they have way more firepower on offense.” (65:18)
• Delaney: Raiders “blow it up” after this year? Mocks the team’s poor trades and lack of direction, especially Geno Smith deal.

Side story: Maxx Crosby and Aqib Talib’s podcast beef (64:04)

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6. Seahawks at Rams – Game of the Week (68:33)

• Spread: Rams –3 | O/U: 48.5
• Clay: Initially leans Rams due to better ball security: “The Seahawks are just giving it away more. The Rams take care of the football better.” (71:36)
• Delaney: Picks Seattle, touts Sam Darnold’s mobility as key: “I think the advantage lies in his mobility because when you have a good pass rush...mobile quarterback against a great pass rush.” (71:49)
• Jack: Seattle as well.
• Will: On the fence, loves both rosters and wants “just an amazing game”: “You can start talking about the Lions being one of the best teams in the NFC. They already are...But to me, we're getting to watch the two best teams in the NFC right now play this weekend.” (74:27)
• Debate about MVP implications for Stafford and others.
• Playful coin flip attempt and emotional hedging over the outcome.

Memorable dialogue:
“It’s like looking in the mirror right now.” – Jack (69:20)
“Let me just bet on hope then.” – Clay (72:03)
“My hope is one of these teams is playing in the Super Bowl this year.” – Clay (74:32)

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Notable Locker-Room Banter & Storylines

• Clay’s injury & pain management: Open discussion about playing through pain, hospital trips, and medication.
• Player perspectives: Tangents on defensive and offensive line play, Fitzpatrick vs. Stafford, duo running schemes, and being a special teams warrior.
• Team Culture: Persistent theme—Lions’ rise credited to culture, while Eagles’ struggles are attributed to “in-house issues” and locker-room murkiness.
• Podcast & media beefs: Maxx Crosby vs. Aqib Talib, banter about podcasters stirring up drama.
• Betting records & strategies: Recap of last week’s picks, discussion of profit boosts, and jokes about betting with or against each other.
• MVP Race talk: Stafford, Drake May, and Jonathan Taylor all discussed as candidates with “next game could change everything” energy.

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Final Hot Takes ("Final Bite" Segment) (81:10)

• Clay: “Whoever wins between the Seahawks and the Rams will be the NFC representative in the Super Bowl this year.” (81:10)
• Jack: “Daniel Jones winning MVP.” (81:24)
• Delaney: “Tyler Warren is going to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.” (81:48)
• Quarterback controversy in San Francisco? Debates over whether the 49ers will stick with Mac Jones or go back to Brock Purdy once healthy. “You got to protect him who you've invested in.” – Delaney (84:10)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Standings, injury update, banter: 00:02 – 11:58
• Chargers at Jaguars: 21:02 – 25:07
• Buccaneers at Bills: 26:32 – 35:27
• Chiefs at Broncos: 38:01 – 47:02
• Lions at Eagles: 47:04 – 56:45
• Locker-room/Special teams/life stories: 56:45 – 62:14
• Cowboys at Raiders: 62:14 – 66:04
• Seahawks at Rams (Game of the Week): 68:33 – 78:34
• Final Hot Takes (Final Bite): 81:10 – 85:01

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Most Memorable Quotes

“I think the Lions have more firepower on offense. I think if they can get this lead and force the Eagles to try and come out of their shell…it’s going to be difficult for them.”
— Delaney Walker on Eagles-Lions (49:53)

“The Broncos also...are the most penalized offense in the entire NFL. And if anybody knows about foot pain right now, it is me.”
— Clay Matthews, multi-layered wit (44:35)

“I think they have some in house situations going on, like the mom and daddy fighting and the kids can't tell nobody.”
— Jack on the Eagles’ locker room (51:31)

“Whoever wins between the Seahawks and the Rams will be the NFC representative in the super bowl this year.”
— Clay Matthews, Final Bite (81:10)

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Tone & Vibe

• Locker-room authentic: Equal parts insightful, irreverent, and unfiltered. Jokes fly, egos get checked, stories get real.
• Banter-driven analysis: Mixes gambling and on-field breakdowns with love/hate for various teams, players, and even each other.
• Player perspective: Discussions on injuries, culture, and X’s and O’s from guys who lived it.

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In Summary

This episode is a must-listen for fans wanting both laughs and legit football analysis. The Boys spin out strong picks, hype up Detroit and Seattle, sound alarms for Philly, and bring culture, history, and humor to every NFL talking point.

Bottom line: If Week 11’s games are as entertaining as this pod, it’s going to be a hell of a Sunday.

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Transcript

[Clay Matthews]

Good afternoon, good evening, good morning, whatever it is when you're watching this show. Welcome to the locker room with myself, Clay Matthews, Delaney Walker, Will Compton. Let's get it out of the way. Yes. I'm in a boot. Was I in the hospital last night till 3am because my foot hurt so bad? Yes. Is this gout? No. Did this come because of gout? Most likely. People are saying torn ligaments in the foot. What's he going to do? He's going to keep operating. And that's what we're doing exactly for you today. Today we got Chargers at Jags, Bucks at Bills, Chiefs at Broncos, Sunday Night Football, lions and Eagles. A.J.

[Delaney Walker]

Brown.

[Clay Matthews]

He's out there streaming. He's talking. He's miserable. We'll find out how good the team's gonna do or not good. Cowboys versus the Raiders.

[Delaney Walker]

Fun fact.

[Clay Matthews]

No one really cares about that game. And then a true classic game of the week. Seahawks at Rams. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a regular season game than I am this one. Let's get over to the standings. Delaney Walker, 5 and 1. Absolutely incredible. If he does this three weeks in a row, he'll be above.500. I was 3 and 3. Will Compton is also 3 and 3. And then sweet little LA Clay couldn't get it done, man. Couldn't get it done. One in five. He's now 28 and 32. As a season slowly is coming to an end, he's got to write the ship a little bit. The two mainstays stay at 500. Let's have a hell of a show today, boys. Let's fight through the pain. Let's fight through the urge to be nasty in the comments. Don't be nasty in the comments about my foot. Do not make fun of me having gout and being 34 years old. But do me a favor and you're watching the show and you haven't. Please subscribe. Rate 5 stars. Let's have a hell of a show.

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

Dude, congratulations. 5 and 1.

[Jack]

You know, I told Jack earlier, man, I missed on the joke, but I didn't miss on my bets and you know, shout out to those guys for showing up and showing out. You know what I mean?

[Will Compton]

You tried telling all of us.

[Jack]

I tried telling y', all, you know what I mean? It is what it is, you know, y' all have your opinion, I have my opinion. That's what it's all about. You know, it's just fun.

[Will Compton]

But can you watching that clip of the joke? Yeah, you had to.

[Jack]

I had him. I watched it about five times.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, you watching the film. That's good.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I was watching it like right.

[Jack]

Ah, he said it right there. He said it right the first time I said it, he said it and I missed. I. I was thinking I wanted him to say another word than what he said.

[Clay Matthews]

He is me, by the way, for those who didn't watch last week, Taylor.

[Delaney Walker]

Yep.

[Jack]

And then, you know, as I was going, people, I'm reading the comments, they like, yo, you missed.

[Clay Matthews]

You missed like you had them. I'm like most washed guy in the show.

[Jack]

Damn. You know? Yeah, yeah. And now I'm taking a lot of heat for it. But you know, it is what it is.

[Clay Matthews]

Just.

[Will Compton]

Cause you missed on the moment, the preparation that went into just that moment, that was right there for you.

[Odoo Advertiser]

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[Will Compton]

Wide open in the end zone. You prepared for that joke. First, second, third down, red zone, two minute, all four quarters and you had it. You had it laid up for you.

[Clay Matthews]

Up 10, 10 points in the fourth quarter. Just couldn't close.

[Jack]

I couldn't close.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know.

[Jack]

I got nervous, man. I don't know why. Hey, that happens.

[Clay Matthews]

A dick joke, like when you first start going into it, it's a little nerve wracking.

[Jack]

It's nerve wracking.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Jack]

I don't know why I got nervous. I clammed up. Hands got all moist.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah. Palms are sweaty, Knees weak. Would you rather go 5 and 1 or let that dick joke land?

[Jack]

Mm, that's a tough one because I'm doing bad right now in my Right.

[Clay Matthews]

And unfortunately you have to have that.

[Jack]

Week again and the next week and the next week. So I'm gonna take the. For the sake of the show, I'm gonna take the bats. I wish. I'd rather have five and one than land that. That joke.

[Clay Matthews]

And it was pointed out last week for the first time, like, if you fade Delaney, you're. You're obviously very profitable this year.

[Jack]

No, I mean, he been saying that for the last three weeks. And I like when he say that. So make sure you say it this.

[Will Compton]

Week, because not anymore. This November, December football. This is where the mule comes alive.

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[Jack]

You know, this is. I'm. I'm fully conditioned. I'm the better team most of the time, you know, So I.

[Delaney Walker]

This is fine.

[Jack]

Well, this is where I come in and play.

[Clay Matthews]

I'll tell you what. You're a team that's out of the playoffs or your playoff hopes are dwindling, but you just. You guys don't fight. You got good culture.

[Will Compton]

Fuck that.

[Clay Matthews]

You got good culture. You're The Jets. Dude, you just won two in a row and it's like, oh, nobody's doing that there.

[Jack]

No, no, I'm more like the Chiefs.

[Clay Matthews]

Well, no, that's not true.

[Jack]

Yeah, I'm more like the Chiefs.

[Will Compton]

They're, they're, they're shaky right now. They're about 500 on the scene. What are they, 5 and 4 and this is.

[Delaney Walker]

They're ascending. Right?

[Clay Matthews]

He's 25 and 35.

[Jack]

Well, we not talking about that exact.

[FanDuel Announcer]

Like.

[Jack]

Hey, how about this?

[Will Compton]

You're an idiot.

[Clay Matthews]

You're the Ravens before the buy.

[Jack]

Okay, I'll take that, I'll take that, I'll take that. I'm the Raven. Yeah. Good look good?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Roster stacked. Yeah, yeah, no, I'll take that a couple times.

[Clay Matthews]

But now you're back, baby boy.

[Will Compton]

Hey, we're in the locker room right now, fellas. We're in the locker room. Our boy coming in here with crutches.

[Delaney Walker]

With the boot, a high bow. Is this a season ender or just four weeks ir?

[Clay Matthews]

I'm here, aren't I? We're fighting, aren't we? Yeah. I was in the hospital last night. Self induced. Drove myself.

[Delaney Walker]

Did you?

[Clay Matthews]

Drove my wife. We're laying in bed, I go, I hate that I'm doing this, but I think I have to go to the hospital. I'm not going to. I need an answer about something that's going on because I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. So I crushed my. Well, I actually, I had one crutch that was like.

[Jack]

Leftover crutch?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, leftover crutch. And I must have been 6, 4 back then because this. I had to lean into this boy to get it done. Drive, get in the car, gas lights on. I don't know if I'm making. So I gotta stop and get gas, get to the hospital. They were awesome. A lot of busing fans there. Some dude came into my X ray, very professional. Comes back later, he's like, hey, I hate to do this dude.

[Delaney Walker]

Can you sign your X ray?

[Clay Matthews]

Your imaging selfie of me and him. I'm laying in the bed, like telling.

[Jack]

Everybody I hate him.

[Delaney Walker]

One of those.

[Clay Matthews]

I got that. Just the hospital background on us, dude. Everyone was cool, but I was just. I've been in hell, dude. It's been the last 14 days. I've just been in hell. And I just miss being able to walk and being like, look at me go. You know, similar to like my, my kids, watching them walk for the first time, it's like, wow. I Feel like I'm relearning how to walk, and it's just not getting better.

[Delaney Walker]

So what are you. What are you on right now?

[Clay Matthews]

What am I on right now?

[Delaney Walker]

What are you on right now?

[Clay Matthews]

I'm on trying to get better.

[Jack]

No, you mean what type of, like, Toradol?

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, no Toradol for me right now. I do have a prescription. Here's the problem, bro, is with the gout, I ended up doing a steroid pack, the Medrol dose pack. I end up doing, like, some uric acid pill. And I, like, I'm not an antibiotics guy. I try to stay away from that stuff as much, much as possible. I get in so much pain. I hate the Tramadol train where I'm like, I'm taking two of them boys. I'm, you know, I'm like, it's kind of nice, but I know my brain is like a super addictive personality. And I'm like, I've been in these rocky waters before. A little bit. Football season, you roll an ankle or something, they're just injecting you with everything. I'm sitting on the couch, 34, retired, feeling this way. And I'm sitting there and, like, I look at the nurse like, hey, do you want anything for pain? I'm like, yeah, I do. She's like, do you want Percocets or Vicodin? I'm like, no, give me the Tramadol. That's my go to low dose. And I just hate the fact that I'm taking pills. Cause I already. I just hate that.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, man, there's. You're on the mend. You gotta get better.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm not on the mend, dude. I'm on rock bottom. That's what I am.

[Jack]

Life's hell right now, let's be honest. Do you think Four Squares has something to do with the injury?

[Will Compton]

Oh.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, bro, that's a good point. Yeah.

[Jack]

Cause it got real competitive.

[Clay Matthews]

It got real competitive. And that was when my foot was really starting to feel better, too. Cause that was Thursday. Friday was actually sore after Monday night, dude, I went to go feed my goats, and as I'm walking back, like, I hit like, a rock, like, the side of my foot. I, like, feel pain the outside. Like, bro, that feels weird, but, like, it'll go away. That's. That's a residual from the gout yesterday afternoon. All of a sudden, like, by the time I got done putting my kids to sleep, I was crawling on the handrail and going down the stairs. Geez. Like, in, like, getting into Bed. Just like, I hope to God I can get this thing in a position to not hurt so I can just go to sleep. So anyway, boys. Yeah, I'm in hell. Am I here? Am I 3 and 3 yet again? Am I 500 on the year?

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yes.

[Clay Matthews]

If there was a game tomorrow, could I play? You bet your ass. I'll definitely bet your ass.

[Will Compton]

I don't know, buddy. You're like a full mortal now. We all are.

[Clay Matthews]

No, no doubt. But hypothetically speaking, yeah, I think if I'm a football player still, I'm thinking of myself in the training room right now, and it's like, can you play? It's like, yeah, numb it up. Yeah, let's go see what we can do.

[Jack]

Yeah, you're good.

[Clay Matthews]

Extra tight tape, like, go through it.

[Jack]

100Ccs of Toradol. You'll be all right.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, yeah, Toradol's a mainstay. But enough about me, dude. One in five.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, well, first off, I got bullied out of my Ravens pick. You wouldn't let me just pick the Ravens money line, so. I should have been 2 and 4.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, I didn't know you let other men make your decisions.

[Delaney Walker]

It won't happen again. It won't.

[Jack]

But you. So you gonna take the favorite money line, you saying no?

[Delaney Walker]

I'm just saying I wanted Ravens money line lies. You can't do that. You gotta take me. Whoever they were playing, I don't even know, they made me take them.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, yeah, for the show. But I'm trying to take a favorite money line. You can't do that.

[Delaney Walker]

Why not? Because if FanDuel offers it, I can take it.

[Will Compton]

So what you end up taking last.

[Delaney Walker]

Week, who they play? Ravens.

[Jack]

Ravens. Vikings.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And because you like. You like. I like the Raven. I like the Ravens right there.

[Will Compton]

So just take the points.

[Clay Matthews]

Right.

[Delaney Walker]

But I thought it was going to be like 27, 24.

[Clay Matthews]

So he took Ravens.

[Delaney Walker]

It was three and a half.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, hey, you got. If that's your thought process, you should take the Vikings.

[Will Compton]

No. Yeah, because it.

[Jack]

Yeah, it was five and a half.

[Delaney Walker]

Three. I think it was three and a half. And I said Viking or so Ravens went by three. Told you. Bunch of bullies. But it was a rough week. Hey, the packers disappointed in their showing. What's going on? A lot of questions to be answered out there.

[Jack]

They not a good away team, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

They played at home like it was a prime time home game.

[Clay Matthews]

They just lost two in a row at home, bro.

[Jack]

They.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, they lost two.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Two.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, I'm this dude Went five and one last week.

[Delaney Walker]

Doesn't even know that they played at.

[Will Compton]

Home with that look, dude, they not game.

[Jack]

I know.

[Delaney Walker]

Bro, there's a. But I'm telling you, there's. It's a lot of tight, you know, a lot of tight BH's out there in Green Bay is all I'm saying. Jordan Love has been a little shaky. The offensive play calling defenses look great. You hold Cleveland to 13, you hold even the Carolina game, 16, 16. And now you hold the Eagles to 10. Like, come on, we gotta score. When we used to, when I was there in Green Bay, we used to put our defensive coordinator Dom Capers, hey, we need to force three turnovers, we need three sacks, hold them to 17 points or less. If your offense isn't coming through and scoring at least you know, if your defense is holding them for less than 17 and your offense is not scoring more than that, I mean that's just. They have too many playmakers. Too many. I don't know, man. It's frustrating to watch. That was an ugly game to watch. So I mean, I think this Lions game that we're going to talk about versus the Eagles will be real telling in that NSC North. But I think the packers got to quit letting these games slip away. They've had real opportunities to put this thing away. And if they would have lost to Dallas too, if they didn't tie that, I mean it's looking ugly, especially in light of this Micah trade which we were all so high on. At least I was before the season. Now Cowboys, Jerry Jones up there sitting in his suite talking, thinking he might have got the best of this trade.

[Clay Matthews]

Cowboys put themselves in a horrible situation with the who'd they trade for?

[Delaney Walker]

Quinn Williams situation. They did not give away their 2026 first round pick. They gave away a 2027. So you're telling me you got Kenny Clark, Quinn and Williams and they got two first rounds next year in a, in a quarterback. They got their quarterback. So everybody's going to go off to quarterbacks. Who knows where Dallas is going to be. But there's pass rush. They're going to have a first round pass rusher, two dogs on the inside. And as you see, every great defense has two interior D linemen who are absolute studs.

[Will Compton]

You saw the Eagles, Logan Wilson, they got Logan Wilson.

[Delaney Walker]

Logan Wilson, who was just playing on the Bengals super bowl team not too long ago fell out of favor. But yes, they are not competitive this year. But if you're looking at it money ball wise, it's Looking good for the Cowboys as far as that trade is concerned.

[Clay Matthews]

That's, that's the thing I'm looking at though, is the money. Because we had this conversation last week and Scheft brought this up.

[Will Compton]

The cap stuff is a little cap.

[Clay Matthews]

Stuff, which is, which is definitely above my pay grade. But it sounds like bringing Quinn Williams in, he is a $20 million cap hit next year. They're already like $76 million over the cap. George Pickens is in a contract year himself. You make that trade for him, how are you going to keep him in the building and have him and Ceedee Lamb, which is two number one wide receivers, then you have two first round draft picks coming in which are, you know, $40 million guys or whatever it is. So, like, from a cap standpoint, making it work seems like they put themselves in a very hard position now. Cowboys are very like, you know, from a financial standpoint. They're, they're, they're a liquidity rich franchise. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Which they'll have to redo that.

[Clay Matthews]

They'll redo a whole bunch of things in order to keep George Pickens. But it's like there's a lot of money now, a lot of money going out according to Williams trade taking place.

[Jack]

I think they restructured that. Give them a lot of money up front so you can have a lower.

[Will Compton]

Salary cap, push the cap back a few years.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, well, yeah, you're just pushing. You're kicking the can down the road for an issue later.

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[Clay Matthews]

But yeah, I mean, you want to win. NFL is not for long.

[Jack]

Not for long.

[Clay Matthews]

It's like, you gotta win now.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Win now.

[Jack]

Got to.

[Clay Matthews]

Before we get into the games. Like, a lot of people talking about Clay Matthews. We want to know more about Clay.

[Delaney Walker]

They are.

[Clay Matthews]

What a great guy. I love his personality. He's chirping the boys. What a great addition to the locker room.

[Delaney Walker]

Thanks, guys.

[Clay Matthews]

We know you're a big cinema guy. What kind of music is Clay Matthews into? What kind of music were you listening to as a kid? Genre? Like, I just want to know a little something for the viewer.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't really listen to a whole lot of music. Like, I put, like, if I'm mowing the lawn, busting with the boys. If I'm mowing the lawn, like, I put on just country, like either 90s country or today's country. But honestly, like, if my kids are in the car, I'll put on Taylor Swift. If my daughter is in the car, and then I'll put on Disturbed like Imagine Dragons. If My boys are in the car.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, you like imagine dragons.

[Delaney Walker]

Go ahead, chime me.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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[Jack]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Delaney Walker]

I love.

[Clay Matthews]

We got the Chargers at the Jags. The Chargers are favored minus two and a half. Great fucking job, dude. Way to sniff that out. Way too sniff that out. That's outstanding. Total points in that game is 43 and a half points. Clay, you got the hot hand right now. Who are you taking this game?

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, man. Open up the notebook, brother. I'm taking the over. Oh, I'm mixing it up. This is the first over under. I'm taking the over here.

[Clay Matthews]

Listen, switching up goes one to five. Last week, he's changed the whole game.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't know what got into me to think that just because the Steelers travel well, just because there's no home fans at SoFi, that that and a rod's return to LA, that that would put him over the top. I drank the Kool Aid after. The Steelers played incredibly well on defense against the Colts. They were terrible. They were terrible. And Herbert, listen, I think we can all agree that when it's all right, all Joe, when he's not in the lineup, they are a different team. But Herbert just continues to find a way Harbaugh, the way they're playing the game. And I think the thing Herbert did incredibly well was in that game, that was his fastest time to throw to negate the pass rush of the Steelers, like 2.21 or something crazy.

[Will Compton]

Still got pressured 30 times.

[Delaney Walker]

He did get pressured.

[Clay Matthews]

He did get sacked quarterback in the entire field.

[Delaney Walker]

But you couple that with a. With a defense that is. That's playing better, and they really only have two superstar name recognition guys on the team in Khalil Mack and Derwin James. But, man, you just got to put all the faith in Harbaugh and Herbert. And who are they playing? They're playing the Jags, who are coming off an epic collapse. Like, give me the over on this. But I really like the Chargers winning this game.

[Clay Matthews]

Chargers are favored. So does the rest of the world. So does the FanDuel sportsbook app. I like. I like the Chargers in this game. I think the Joel. Joel is the reason why I kind of Steered away from the Chargers last week. Their record with or without him. It's pretty telling, especially with that pass rush coming alive the week before with the Steelers. Obviously that didn't happen. Him getting the ball extremely quick. The Jaguars have given up 15 passing touchdowns when they blitz. The quarterback Justin Herbert thrives against the blitz. His scrambling yards. He's got more scrambling yards than any other quarterback. He's the only quarterback to eclipse over 300 yards. So I like the Jags. Sorry. I like the Chargers traveling here. I think the Travis Hunter, right. Everyone's so excited about watching this kid play offense and defense. He just had season ending surgery. Jags feel like a team that's kind of wilting away. Seem like competitive, a sneaky, fun team to watch. But at this point I think this is where the Chargers culture Harbaugh really starts to get into gear. So I like the Chargers here, minus.

[Delaney Walker]

Two and a half.

[Will Compton]

I'm going Chargers. I like the Chargers. They're four and one in their last five. You know, even though they have the injuries going on, we've all talked about Herbert. He's doing the most with as least amount as possible. They did have three drops in that game against the Steelers. It's like I hate seeing the boy lad Baconkey have a drop. But they are going against the Jags. The Jags are like the most drop football team in the NFL. I hate, you know, I know the traveling doesn't play in as much in the NFL but I like the Chargers here. I'm going Chargers minus two and a half, going to five and one in their last six. Being a true contender in the afc, keeping their name up front. So I'm going Chargers minus three or minus two and a half.

[Jack]

Yeah, I mean I'm a follow suit. Everything y' all said is good, great points. But we do have to remember Greg Roman is offensive coordinator and they put a lot of trust in Greg Roman on running that offense. Yes, Jim Harbaugh is that mastermind of getting guys to go out there and play as hard as they possibly can. But Greg Roman finds ways to put dudes in spots to make plays. And then long as you got Justin Herbert, that's putting the team on his back and just going out there and that's being careless because when I say careless, he doesn't care about getting hurt because all he want to do is catch those W's and that's what he's been doing. They also in converting third downs, the Chargers is ranked second. If you look at the Jaguars, they pretty Much last in everything. Penalties, they last in points allowed, they last in. I just think the Jaguars right now is just a team. They have some good talent on the team, but they just a team that don't know how to win yet.

[Will Compton]

The Chargers dominate on third down both sides of the ball always. Yeah.

[Jack]

So I just think the Chargers have this one go out there, play great football, don't play today level and they can win this game.

[Will Compton]

Vdol what happened with our bet the boys parlay last year?

[Clay Matthews]

Everything first off, hand up, obviously that's on me. Like you guys all hit, hit, hit, hit. I sat there, Jalen hurts. He's playing against the team that was at the front line of taking away the tush push. This is a game to me in my brain that you are starting the game first and 10 and you're motioning into a tush push just to send a message there was going to be a time in which they got to, you know the, the five yard line or the seven yard line, first and goal and tush push, tush twist all the way in. I like I had this visualization in my head. It was like I was on peyote sitting in the middle of the desert. Like I saw all these things happen. That game, the Monday night game and the last Thursday night game. Bro, it's like it's painful to watch and I wish I could give you a reason or have an explanation for my actions. That was my thought process didn't work out and I love the I let the boys down. I let the boys down. Oh, you'll see my bet the boys parlay. I'm taking the Monday night football game again for this exact reason to hopefully you3 hit and I have to sit there alone on Monday waving the flag for the locker room NFL edition and get it all done. So I appreciate you bringing that up because I did need to address what was going on. People saying his foot and his brain aren't working.

[Jack]

That's a for sure right there.

[Clay Matthews]

No guarantees.

[Will Compton]

Buccaneers, Buccaneers heading up to Buffalo. Buffalo favored in this game by five and a half over under on this game is 47 and a half wild line. Wild line. After getting their ass beat by the Miami Dolphins.

[Jack]

Yeah, this is wild.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. All right, I'll go. Here's what I'm thinking here, ma'.

[Jack]

Am.

[Clay Matthews]

Both of these teams are considered contender teams when everyone for the Buccaneers, when they're healthy, the Bills early in the year, they're obviously the high favorite on the FanDuel Sportsbook app to win the AFC east, one team has more of a sense of urgency than the other. The Bucks are living in a division that they have. Hey, they're pretty comfortable. Hey, let's get guys healthy. Middle of December, we'll start to, you know, get ready for the playoffs. We're going to win our division. They kind of feel like they have that when it comes to the Bills, bro, you turn on that film in the Miami game and like, yeah, they have to do a better job. James Cook has got to do a better job taking care of the football. Josh Allen has to do has to essentially play better as well. I mean, he had a fumble, he had an interception in the end zone in that game. To me, it's like, I think about Dan Orlofs, his conversation about always being under center. Always being under center. They are 51% under under center. It just doesn't feel as consistent as the percentage says it is because the first half of that game they were under center. I think it was like eight times. And six of those times they, they won that play, which is 4 yards or better. A couple of those were explosive play action pass plays. They have a tendency to get away from the run game. And I think if you're watching this, if you're Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator for the Bills, and you're watching what can we do better? Because when they send the shotgun offset back and they let the receivers just go and you know, run routes like the receivers are plastered all over the back end of that defense, the Miami's defense was all over them where Josh, he's kind of running around where you're thinking probably similar to what you were talking about that Week 1 about the Eagles and the Cowboys, that there's no way Jalen Harts is just running. Someone has to be open. When you watch the wide view of that film, these receivers, there's really no room between them and the defender. So something's got to change there. I believe the sense of urgency and the obvious of, hey, if we protect the football, we're in a much better position to win this game. I'm going to take the Bills here. This is a, this is a show me game for the Bills. They're at home. Josh Allen, who's the reigning mvp, has not had the season he's wanted to have. He has. He catches himself in times of like trying to be the MVP as opposed to allowing things to come to him. Bucks are a little hurt right now. I can. It's a scary pick, but I'm going to stick with the stick with the Bills, I picked them early in the year. I'm going to continue to do that until this game. If they prove me wrong in this game, I'll have to jump off the bandwagon.

[Delaney Walker]

I like the Bills. I like the Bills. Listen, I'm all in on the Buccaneers. I love watching Baker. I love the way he plays. I love his resurgence. Ever since he's gone down to Tampa and even with all the injuries they've had down there, what he's been able to do with Emeka Buka, who I've put in that offensive rookie of the year class, as well as Tez Johnson, seventh rounder out of Oregon, he's looked great. And like I said, they're still missing all these guys, so they're still clicking on offense, putting up, you know, 20 plus points. But the, the way they got in trouble last week against New England was the big plays. They've been elite and stopping the run in New England. Ramondre. Or was it Trayvon? Trayvon. Trayvon has like two runs of 55 yards plus for touchdowns. They also give up that huge pass with amazing pass by Drake May to the rookie out of Washington State. Forget his name as well. But they, they, they beat him on the big plays right there. Now Tampa is 6 and 1. In games they've given up, they have not given up 125 yards. And two games they've given up more than 125 yards. They're 02. James Cook, second leading rusher in the league right now with Josh Allen, who can make, who has over 300 yards rushing as well, like making plays. They're going up to the Northeast. I think this is a game where you had mentioned Buffalo is struggling in the past game. They're going to rely heavily on the run game. And I think they just grind this one out by just giving it to James Cook. Josh Allen making plays, taking, not turning the ball over, being smart and just winning this one in a fast game. Give me the Bills.

[Will Compton]

You following suit, Delaney?

[Jack]

Man, you know, man, it's.

[Will Compton]

This has been.

[Jack]

I was on the Bills. I'm not saying I'm not on the Bills right now, but I was on the Bills. But you know, Baker is a dog, right? And everything Taylor said, like I'm gonna feed off of that. Like, I feel like they're trying to get Josh Allen.

[Clay Matthews]

You're in a hot hand right now. You should feed off of you.

[Jack]

No, I'm just saying like what you said, like him getting in shotgun when they're better off, when he's under center. It's like they want Josh Allen to get mvp. Like they're trying to push him to have mvp. Him always running with the ball. Him rolling out the pocket, making throws like. I feel like sometimes that's what I see with the. With the Bills, man. But again, you said the running game. If they do run the ball, they would be great because the buccaneers is ranked 30 right now and run defense. So if the Bills just stick with the run game, they'll win this game.

[Clay Matthews]

Do they win this game by more than five points?

[Jack]

Buccaneers. It's Buccaneers.

[Delaney Walker]

Delaney. Can I try and Can I try. You know, I got my nugget. I got my nugget.

[Jack]

Give a nugget.

[Will Compton]

Just give him a nugget. You don't have to eat it.

[Delaney Walker]

Since 20. Excuse me, I was spitting. Since 20. 23, the bills are 9 and oh. At the 1pm slot at home. Including the playoffs, undefeated. 1 o'. Clock.

[Clay Matthews]

That's a good night.

[Will Compton]

That's a good night.

[Delaney Walker]

12Pm Central.

[Jack]

Buccaneers. That didn't change nothing.

[Will Compton]

All right, Will, I'm taking Buccaneers plus five and a half.

[Jack]

I'm going Bills.

[Will Compton]

There we go.

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[Jack]

I'm going Bills. I'm not.

[Will Compton]

I'll be the only one that sits in the pocket.

[Jack]

Yeah, I'm not going suit with Will.

[Clay Matthews]

But Buddy, that's not a bad pick.

[Jack]

I know. It is a great pick, but.

[Delaney Walker]

Delaney, he can't do that. That's one.

[Jack]

He got a better record than me. Yes, but when Will. I can't side with Will.

[Clay Matthews]

Buddy, why are you. Will and I have the exact same record. Not only this week, but on the entire year.

[Jack]

It's the. It's. Look, it's the fall, man. It's the third quarter. Cuz I'm all separated. Totally different. I'm separating from you guys.

[Delaney Walker]

Yup.

[Jack]

I'm gonna separate from him first.

[Clay Matthews]

Right. Separate from us. Separate from. Two of us are on the bell, then you.

[Delaney Walker]

We'll talk later. Let's see if I can bounce back.

[Jack]

But y' all too. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna separate myself from Will Compton first. So if he go Buccaneers, I'm taking the Bills. If he go Bills, I'm going Buccaneers.

[Will Compton]

I'm taking the Bills plus five and a half. I love that stat. That's a. I'm going buck.

[Clay Matthews]

No, no, no. He meant to say Bucks.

[Delaney Walker]

No, no, he's saying Bills.

[Will Compton]

No, no, my fault. Bucks plus. I am going Bucks plus five and a half. Did I say Bills? Yeah, my fault.

[Clay Matthews]

Sorry. They both start with B's.

[Will Compton]

Yeah, yeah. Love that stat, by the way. Nine and. Oh, that's a. That's a gritty. That's a nice nugget that I'm glad you picked up. Tampa Bay struggles running the football, but I think you can run the football on anybody. It's the Buffalo Bills. They're just their second level. I'm just not. I don't know. When you see what Miami did to him, when you see what Atlanta did to them, if Tampa Bay is going to get a run game going, it would be this game. And I just like Baker Mayfield under pressure. Buffalo's really good at defending the pass, but again, just guys getting open late. I think there's going to be a one score game. If Buffalo does win, I think it's going to be less than five and a half points. I like it being a tight game, but the Bucs are kind of just. They got to have some of these games down the stretch now with the way the NFC shaking out nfc, I like NFC better than the afc, so I'm going Bucs traveling up to Buffalo, putting the Bills through a table. If Buffalo does win, it'll be five and a half or less. Give me the Bucks plus five and a half.

[Jack]

I like it.

[Clay Matthews]

You're taking the Bucks weakness versus the Bills weakness and saying the Bucks weakness trumps yeah.

[Will Compton]

Yes, yes.

[Clay Matthews]

Because you're right like that. The front seven of the Bills is tough. And Miami, like we're so used to them with their motions and gimmicks and gadgets. The way they run their offense. Like that Bills game was under center. 12 personnel downhill runs.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

And then every once in a while hitting a perimeter run game like it was. They came out of the game, they started the game under center, they ended the game under center. And it was a completely different Miami Dolphin team and they just road graded their way to a win.

[Will Compton]

And I like the Bucks defense. I know they're kind of middle of the pack and.

[Clay Matthews]

But they're good. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

The whole stat led by Levante David.

[Clay Matthews]

When you get to that like 13 to 19, it's like that's just a good defense. Like it's good. The one's a little more opportunistic than the other. It's very separated by very marginal numbers. But like. Yeah, you get in that middle of that, it's like. Yeah, that's just. They're. There's good.

[Will Compton]

They're good.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I think they're good enough. I still like the Bills though.

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[Will Compton]

Big one this weekend.

[Delaney Walker]

Who we got?

[Will Compton]

Chiefs going out to Denver. The Altitude. Chiefs favored in this game, three and a half points over under on this game, 44 and a half points. You know where I'm going. It's Broncos. Written all over it after that abysmal performance on Thursday night is Broncos boys Vance Joseph against the Chiefs, too. He's kind of been the Chiefs kryptonite a little bit. Everybody kind of talking this the most fraudulent team in the afc. They took a step back against the Raiders. Offensively, just the penalties, everything else. Something about Bo Nicks, something about Bo Nix that. I'm still gonna stay on Broncos.

[Delaney Walker]

Listen, the only stat that matters in this league is wins and losses, and they are leading the AFC West.

[Will Compton]

Talk to Em Glay.

[Delaney Walker]

But there's a real problem in Denver right now, and it's the quarterback play. It's the Bo Knicks quarterback play.

[Clay Matthews]

He's the turn of the show.

[Delaney Walker]

We ain't saying maybe not after this. Hey, he's just regressed in damn near every statistical category. Passer rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt, his own fans booing him at the stadium. Last week against the Raiders, the lowly Raiders, they managed just 220 yards, 5 for 15 on third down, and punted seven times. I think the defense is the only thing keeping them in the game right now.

[Will Compton]

And the defense is damn good.

[Delaney Walker]

They are very good, especially with Dre Greenlaw and Hafonga. Like, it's. They're fun to watch.

[Will Compton]

Alex Singleton, Prayers up.

[Jack]

They don't even.

[Will Compton]

Prayers up.

[Delaney Walker]

Testicular cancer.

[Clay Matthews]

They caught the cot, though.

[Delaney Walker]

That's what I'm saying. They caught it. Not like he caught it.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he got it. They caught it.

[Delaney Walker]

I like that.

[Will Compton]

Defeated it.

[Delaney Walker]

Defeated. Yeah. No, I mean. But I just think it gives me cause for concern because you're right, they are. They're eight and two. They're. They're playing well on defense, but I just don't have a lot of faith in them. But, I mean, you know, I like the Chiefs. I've been on the cheats. Even though they're five and four. Four and five. Whatever it is, I like them. I'm with fanduel here. I like. I like them. Just give me the cheese. Hey, listen, there's. There's not a quarterback who can make more out of nothing than Patrick Mahomes. And if we're talking about Bonito and this pass rush of Broncos coming after. So I wouldn't just. Yeah, coming after him. Mahomes 8 and 1 when he sacked at least three times. Normally it's the other way. You're 1 and 8. That just lets you know he's a dog when they're coming after.

[Will Compton]

Mahomes is a bad man.

[Delaney Walker]

So I just. I like the Chiefs right here. I think there's some real concern in Denver right now.

[Clay Matthews]

Is that a real stat?

[Delaney Walker]

It's a real stat. Mahomes 8 and 1 when he sacked three or more times in a game.

[Clay Matthews]

Damn super bowl against Tampa Bay. I feel like he was sacked a shitload and he lost. Maybe that.

[Jack]

I mean, he was against Tom Brady. You can't compare that. Tom Brady.

[Will Compton]

That ain't in the stat. That ain't in the data.

[Jack]

It ain't in the data.

[Clay Matthews]

There's a little star by says excludes Tom Brady.

[Jack]

I mean, it's Tom Brady.

[Will Compton]

You know, it could be a stat excluding the playoffs.

[Clay Matthews]

Chiefs. Delaney, where you at?

[Jack]

I mean, I'm going Chiefs, man. I feel like the Chiefs is back. They are back.

[Delaney Walker]

They just lost though.

[Jack]

I don't care about that.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay.

[Clay Matthews]

Lost them by.

[Jack]

Look at these dudes are back. They got the receivers out there. Kelsey looking good. I ain't seeing, you know, him dropping passes. He making those plays getting open. You know, he's an old man. He's still out there making shit happen. I love seeing tight ends do they job. I feel like the Broncos right now, they about to fall apart, man. It's over for them.

[Will Compton]

Fall apart.

[Jack]

They about to fall apart.

[Will Compton]

8 and 2, bro.

[Jack]

8 and 2. It's a sus 8 and 2.

[Will Compton]

It ain't the last week. I see the. The cause for sus concern.

[Jack]

Will, have you seen who the Broncos have beaten this year? 18.

[Delaney Walker]

Read, read the scores. Two of those games. All those games by like three points.

[Jack]

Yeah, it's sus, bro. Like, you know, you. You kind of play way better against the Chiefs. The Chiefs gonna show up. Yes, we know what happened last week, but the Chiefs were will show up against the Broncos two weeks ago. Right? The Chiefs will show up against the Broncos because they play today competition. I don't know why this is a thing, but most teams do. They will play today competition. They will beat the Broncos.

[Will Compton]

You're a Chiefs Dick Rider though. Taylor, who you got in this game?

[Clay Matthews]

I'm going to take the Chiefs as well, I think. Yeah, I think the Broncos, they are the best defense in the NFL. If it's not statistically turn on the film. You watch it, you see guys flying around. It's pretty incredible. Chiefs are probably one or two notches behind that. When I watch both these defenses matching up against the offenses, you have to give the edge to the Chiefs. Broncos start slow. They pick it up a little bit in the second half. Bo Nix, yeah, he needs to play better. He does have happy feet in the pocket. He's not extremely decisive when he throws, but guy's a gamer. Say what you want. Like they're eight, they're eight and two. So you have to give a little. You have a. Not give a little bit of a nod to him in that sense. The Raiders game really turned me off to the, to the Broncos, but I look at the Chiefs and how they negate a pass rush or pressure, and that is utilizing their pass game as an extension of the run game. It's quick. Get the ball very fast, use the perimeter, quick hitches with Kelsey and Rice. And then just when you got everybody kind of stuck in that box a little bit, you got Thornton down there, Xavier Worthy. The Broncos are a good football team. There's, there's, there's no doubt about it. You can't go 8 and 2 in the NFL and be looked at any other way. I just think the Chiefs have a higher sense of urgency. This is an AFC west opponent that they have like, largely had massive success again against since Patrick Mahomes has been in the league. I can see this game being. I don't even know what the total in the game, whatever it is, I can see it absolutely being an under game because of both these defenses, but I'm thinking spags as Chiefs defense versus the Broncos offense. And I see a shutout happening in the. For at least the first half of that game. And I have to assume there's going to be 12 scores by the Chiefs. And I think by that time you get to the second half, it's too far. The Chiefs have pulled away too far for the Broncos to come back and win that. The Broncos also, like, they shoot themselves in the foot from a, from a play standpoint in the first half offensively. But they're also the most penalized offense in the entire NFL. And so they're shooting themselves in the foot more than one. And if anybody knows about foot pain right now, it is me.

[Jack]

I mean, I ain't gonna lie. Broncos is a second half team. So that's the only scary part with the Broncos.

[Delaney Walker]

That's when Bo's playing free, when he's not so nervous or. I don't know. It just seems like he's just not on the same page with his receiver. He doesn't even trust his receivers. He doesn't trust himself. Too quick to escape the pocket in the second half. You're right. It's like, just go do your thing like him back in college. You know, just make something happen. But yeah, we'll see if it's too much to overcome.

[Jack]

Two stats. Andy Reid, 22 and four off of a buy. Mahomes is 13 and one in his career against the Broncos.

[Will Compton]

You might be on some of the under.

[Jack]

Yeah, that under 44 and a half.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I like the under. I like the under for the sake of picks and all that. I know I took an over last week that didn't hit, but I'll go Chiefs. We'll go Chiefs in this one.

[Will Compton]

For the sake of record, I will go under.

[Jack]

Oh, you ain't thinking of Broncos.

[Will Compton]

I'm thinking of a couple different things here. Broncos defense is elite. Broncos defense. You know, if Chiefs win, I could see it being, you know, like, like 21, 15. Something weird.

[Clay Matthews]

Something weird.

[Will Compton]

But defense is elite. They will do a good job as well as they can against the Chiefs. And also, Broncos have not had a bye week yet.

[Jack]

Oh, shit.

[Will Compton]

So a little depletion. Their bye week is next week.

[Jack]

Oh, they already thinking about it. You know how that goes.

[Delaney Walker]

Coach says if you get a dub, you don't even have to come in on Monday.

[Jack]

If you will be thinking about it, though, you know how you be thinking about it and you play bad.

[Clay Matthews]

No, you're thinking about like we got, bro. You have to win before you're by.

[Jack]

You have to. Cat's always win.

[Will Compton]

Practice can become hell, but still often struggling. Continue to struggle. Broncos defense. No bye week yet. Under.

[Clay Matthews]

Under 44 and a half on that one.

[Jack]

So y' all flipping, y'. All.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm gonna go under as well. I, I, I wouldn't. And maybe you guys are all good with it. I kind of want to go Chiefs plus the under. Not parlay, but soloed.

[Delaney Walker]

Can. Can we get two wins for that? No, I'd like to boost my record.

[Will Compton]

Well, it's only a one bet that you're putting.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, no, it's probably fair we don't do that because in these, these records.

[Jack]

Yeah, it'll get all up.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, so I'll just take the under because I do think that's a, that's a under.

[Will Compton]

Under.

[Clay Matthews]

Over.

[Jack]

I'm not touching.

[Clay Matthews]

No, this is good. We're all we have three different table here.

[Jack]

I'm not gonna touch it.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, you're. You're Chiefs.

[Jack]

I'm gonna take the chief. I. I like everything y' all said. It's. But I'm. I'm just stay. I'm gonna stick with my.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm gonna stick with my.

[Will Compton]

Detroit and Philadelphia Sunday Night football. Eagles favorite at home. Two and a half points over under on this game, 46 and a half.

[Delaney Walker]

What's the biggest news coming out of Detroit?

[Clay Matthews]

Dan Campbell taking over play calling.

[Delaney Walker]

Is that a big deal?

[Jack]

Yes, it got. Why he's not a play caller.

[Clay Matthews]

He is a play calling.

[Will Compton]

He even said he was putting Ben Johnson on game.

[Jack]

I mean last week he did. But is he a normal play caller though?

[Clay Matthews]

No, because he's had Ben Johnson in the past. He elevated John Morton through but still.

[Will Compton]

He helped mentor Ben Johnson.

[Delaney Walker]

Right.

[Clay Matthews]

I think I look at the Eagles and that game versus the Packers. I mean the Eagles defense played well, but there's a lot of throws out there for Jordan. Love that he missed in that game. That makes me look at Dan Campbell, Jared Goff or it's like you're going to see those. Like Jared Goff is great at being on the center, running the play action, throwing with timing and with accuracy. Dan Campbell, there's a clip of him in the last game they played. He calls a play and he sees the defense come out and he like starts fist pumping and that next play is a touchdown. Like that's the kind of energy, someone who's seeing the field clearly from a crystal ball standpoint. Eagles have been so weird to me. Like their consistency, like they're winning, but it's like it's so fragile where they're at from a culture standpoint. AJ Brown playing the game, yelling about a bunch of things that Klumper told me about before the show even started. I love, I love culture picks. I love the transition of Dan Campbell calling plays. I like the Lions here.

[Delaney Walker]

Jameson Williams getting his first hundred yard receiving game. John Moore and I talked about he had failed him. I just, I mean, I don't know if it's because they were playing the Commanders last week. It seemed like there was no drop off, you know. And I know some of their wins and some of their losses were pretty lackluster and the catalyst was obviously that Vikings game. But I mean we'll kind of wait and see. But. And the same goes with the Eagles. We talk about this every week. You know, A.J. brown, he's not involved in the offense the entire game. They Throw him the random fourth down at the end of the game. Just doesn't make much sense to me. They play it conservative. They don't. They just, they do enough to win the game. They're almost hoping their defense makes a play. But I like the Lions in this one. I know they're at the link, but yeah, I like the lines. I got nothing. I mean, I'll tell you one thing I did like though. I really like that you, you touched on this, the Eagles defense, the Jalen Phillips. Here's what I want to say is a pass rusher, I know he didn't have a sack, but every play that I watched him rush, the passer, which this is, I think is a lost art, collapsing the pocket, you can do that from the interior. But Jalen did such a great job every play, just taking his quarterback, walking him back into Jordan Love. Because so often now you look at pass rush, they want to run 12, 15 yards around the horn. All these mobile quarterbacks escape. I was just really impressed with him, just from a pass rusher standpoint, watching him. And then Jalex Hunt, which is on the other side, he's in his second year, he had some great rushes, but we had talked earlier in the show about a dominant two interior D lineman with Carter and Davis. I mean, their defense is great, but you're right, I think the Lions just have more firepower on offense. I think if they can get this lead and force the Eagles to try and come out of their shell, their conservative approach, it's going to be difficult for them.

[Clay Matthews]

And also Lane Johnson too, being, being hurt coming back for the last drive. Like Lane has underperformed this year from his play. Like he's a 99 in Madden. Like the really only thing you can do is kind of job off a little bit. He's still in those 90s. But when you're taking, when you're that injured and you have to come out for a majority of a game only to come back to finish a game off, it preaches to his toughness. But weeks and weeks are going by. We've got groins, we've got ankles, we've got knees, got a whole bunch of stuff going on. Like the Eagles offensive line is already not playing great. And then couple that with your best player being more and more injured week in and week out, Lions are going to put a lot of pressure. It's going to force Eagles to do something they don't like doing, which is get out of the conservative box. Like you just said, AJ's pissed off. I think it's, it's clouding the, the play calling's judgment. You watch the four minute drive, the Eagles have like trying to throw a bomb to AJ at the end of the game when it's that tight, it's like in your hands to run the clock out. Like, I don't understand that. I don't understand that move at all. The Lions, it's. Dude, this is culture to me. This is culture. Yeah.

[Jack]

I mean, you can see it through the Eagles eyes, man. Really? I love, I like everything about the Eagles, but I think they have some in house situations going on, like the mom and daddy fighting and the kids can't tell nobody. You know what I'm saying?

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, he's got a black eye, but she fell down the stairs.

[Jack]

Yeah, like just making up excuses to the media and it's really. It ain't. It don't look good.

[Clay Matthews]

Kids just quietly eating at the dinner table. All you hear is just utensils hitting the tensiles.

[Jack]

It's scary. You know what I mean? You don't know what to say. You can't speak out. You don't want to tell the truth. I don't like that. I hate being on the table.

[Clay Matthews]

We hate domestic violence on this show. On the show, we do not condone domestic violence. Ryan. I told you before, I'll say it again, I don't condone domestic violence.

[Jack]

And the Lions, if you look at the Lions, they're a team that believe in each other, trust each other, care about each other and want to win as a unit. And that's what football is all about, is winning as a unit, playing for that dude next to you. And that's what the lion does, the Lions do. And they got a great coach. The coach, like you said, he taking over play calling, did a great job. He sees the field, he played the game. He knows how to catch passes, he knows how to find coverages because he did it. He did it for a very long time. So with that being said, I picked the Lions to beat the Eagles. Sorry, Klump. You know, I don't like going against the Eagles, but I feel like the Lions right now are going to be the better team.

[Will Compton]

How about the handlebars? Oh, no club back there. He back there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I agree.

[Will Compton]

The best bet of the week is Lions money line in Philadelphia. We didn't get to see this game last year during the regular season at all. We unfortunately didn't get to see it in the playoffs because the Commanders upset the Lions, which again, it's like if you wanted to see two physical super teams go at it, it was the Lions and Eagles. We're getting that this year. It's going to be awesome. I just think the Lions, they just have too much offensively, even schematically. Like I'll paint the, I'll try and paint just a picture that puts a defense like in a tizzy. Imagine 21 personnel and it's split backfield so you have a tight end and receiver to the left, you got one receiver to the right and before the snap you have the weak side running back start to motion out and flare out to that left side to that passing strength. Now imagine play action inside zone and then it's like you might be looking at rpo, you might be looking at hitting the back out in the flat, but then a wide delay comes around on the sideline and they hit you in the fringe area. And they're doing this through a balanced running attack with duo outside zone, inside zone. There's a different flavor every week and across the board you look at their percentages, a very balanced attack running the football. With Detroit, you look at the Eagles when they're breaking down defensively because I think they'll be able to make Jalen uncomfortable when they are going to have to throw the ball this game. But even as they get their run game going, you look at where they've had success with Saquon in that running game in the last couple weeks and if you look at their film on the first, what, seven games of the year, six games of the year, their least amount of runs that they did, they were a big time outside zone team or inside, they were a big time zone team. Now they've gotten into more man and duo and a lot of their duos. If you watch their tape, it's coming into that. Whether they're in 12, 13 or 22 personnel, it's coming out of a three by one look. When they're running duo, then they have a couple play action when it's a two back look but when it's one back they're either motioning AJ over, they're going from a 13 personnel three by one look and motioning the receiver over or the tight end, they're still running duo. Like there's going to be some tendency things that the Lions can now prepare for. Now that the Eagles have had a little bit of success running the football. I just think the Eagles won't be able to play from behind and for that like I love Lions money line this week against Philly brother.

[Delaney Walker]

How much did you like playing against the duo when you were inside backer? I felt. I loved it.

[Will Compton]

I loved it more too. When you had like, when you had like two gappers in front of you and you can manipulate the double team and then fall back to your gap.

[Delaney Walker]

I would just hit it so fast that my. The D line would just come off. I mean, they'd have the. Whoever it was guard. They'd have to come off so fast and that it just freed up my interior D line.

[Will Compton]

You couldn't. You couldn't figure out the schematics. Like, for you, it was just, hey, Clay, just go running. Just go running, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

I was two time Pro bowl, second team all pro inside linebacker.

[Will Compton]

You had to play inside. Like, if anybody taught you on two gapping, you're like, nah, I'll tell you why. Hey, just tell A.J. to go.

[Delaney Walker]

I'll tell you why. Because I played the D line. I played all those positions so I knew what was gonna happen.

[Will Compton]

He played the edge.

[Delaney Walker]

So you were out there.

[Will Compton]

Played the edge. Go put your knuckles in the ground and go try to tackle the quarterback.

[Delaney Walker]

Go back and watch the film. I played everywhere on that D line. They lined me up. You see Micah running around. I was the first white boy to be doing that.

[Will Compton]

And I see Micah, too, rushing up field and giving up a run game on the edge. Cause he's thinking about his settings. I bet you don't like that too.

[Delaney Walker]

I didn't lump myself in there like that. When I said I appreciate Jalen Phillips, that was me. Because I was pushing him back into the quarterback. Oh, you never sacked this game. Well, guess what? Pocket integrity, lane integrity. You know what I'm saying?

[Will Compton]

Jalen Phillips is out there teaching you something. You could still be out there playing, watching my film.

[Delaney Walker]

That's all I know. Hey, Cobra strike. Right down the middle, hands inside, waiting for the quarterback to pick something. And then he recumbers the fumble. Good for him. Yeah. Anyways, brother.

[Will Compton]

But love the duo. Love the duo. Love attacking the duo.

[Delaney Walker]

Just so fast.

[Will Compton]

But if you.

[Jack]

Yeah, if you. We knew that you did that, though. They going fast. They gonna be like, I can't help you. I gotta go. Cause they know Clay is hitting that.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, absolutely. So you either had A gap or B gap, bro. Playing inside linebacker was easy.

[Will Compton]

No.

[Delaney Walker]

Yes, it was. You see a pulling ball, you gotta run.

[Will Compton]

You gotta drop back and pass. You gotta communicate. You could never. Were you ever a green dot guy?

[Delaney Walker]

Yes.

[Will Compton]

You could never call plays out there.

[Delaney Walker]

Let me go get my two. Who was calling the plays in the 2015 NFC wild card game that beat your Redskins. Me on the mic, green dot.

[Will Compton]

Who was the guy that played next to you?

[Delaney Walker]

Sam Barrington.

[Will Compton]

Sam Barrington was probably helping you out the entire time.

[Delaney Walker]

Bullshit.

[Will Compton]

Like, hey, I'm gonna tell you the play. Make sure to relate to the shit. You ain't making no checks neither. Damn, you don't even know what a check is.

[Jack]

What happened to Sam, man.

[Delaney Walker]

He just doing his thing. He posts about South Florida when they're doing top 25.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. Yeah. You guys good?

[Will Compton]

Yeah, we're solid.

[Delaney Walker]

Good. Just a couple linebacker talk.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

For the record, I would. I hated when linebackers would just hit the hole like that. I'd much rather guy manipulated them.

[Jack]

Yeah, sit there. I'll wear the hell to sit there.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, sit there.

[Will Compton]

Sit there.

[Clay Matthews]

Yes, yes. It's like, all right, watch this double team, man.

[Delaney Walker]

Cook you guys where we at?

[Jack]

Because if you hit it, it's a double team. If he hit that shit, it's no double team like you. If you hit it, it's no double team. It's man up and then you put the guard or the tackle in a bad situation.

[Delaney Walker]

I get on his edge too. And because. Because I made a career out of turning the corner, I turned that B gap. Adrian Peterson in The Backville, Minnesota, three yard TFL.

[Clay Matthews]

How many TFLs you have, buddy?

[Delaney Walker]

Not enough.

[Clay Matthews]

A lot. A lot.

[Will Compton]

Not that many.

[Clay Matthews]

How many tackles do you have in your career?

[Will Compton]

It's like over.

[Jack]

Will had six tackle for losses in his career. You looked that up fast. Oh, you had it up already.

[Delaney Walker]

I didn't ask. I didn't ask how many I have. We don't have to hurt his feelings. It's okay.

[Will Compton]

He on the edge. He on the edge.

[Jack]

He right.

[Will Compton]

He's the guy I'm running and hitting the gap and he gets freed up.

[Jack]

You right, you right.

[Delaney Walker]

Hall of Fame finalist. You know what I'm saying? Wait, sorry, nominee, Not a finalist. Nominee.

[Jack]

Nominee. No, we didn't make it to the finalist.

[Delaney Walker]

That's all right. We got next year. We got next year, bro.

[Clay Matthews]

You'll get there, cuz. Your name though, right?

[Delaney Walker]

Silver spoon. You know I will. We know that game.

[Clay Matthews]

We know that game. Take a jacket, man. Imagine if you had Will Compton's brain, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

I would have never laugh.

[Will Compton]

Still be out there playing, bro.

[Delaney Walker]

I wouldn't even got my fifth year. They would have. I wasn't even a part of that. They. They would have. They would have got you.

[Will Compton]

You'd rather have my genetics then?

[Delaney Walker]

Is that what Hell no.

[Will Compton]

That's what I'm saying. You'd rather have the neck up ability. You look stupid right now.

[Delaney Walker]

Because I don't want to be like you.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, he doesn't realize that because he didn't have your brain.

[Will Compton]

Exactly. He don't even know. Put the knuckles in the ground. Rush the passer.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, bro. I never put my hand in the dirt. I was too cerebral. I had to look around for guys like Delaney trying to crack.

[Jack]

He never put his hand in either.

[Will Compton]

Oh, is there going to be a chipper on this play?

[Delaney Walker]

Did they. Did they tell you what that word means at Nebraska? For sure, dummy.

[Jack]

Hey, cuz was a standup in a sprinter stance.

[Delaney Walker]

Hell yeah.

[Jack]

Every time.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

I'll tell you this, Clay Matthews never got a sack on me. Never even got a press on me in the NFL. True.

[Will Compton]

He gave you the welcome to the NFL moment, though.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, that was cute.

[Delaney Walker]

That was preseason else.

[Clay Matthews]

Preseason, like he was just. He was just funing around. And I was also in the. The title. Just fooling around. He was just having a little fun, getting ready for the season. And I'm over there. Dick is spinning. Have no idea what's going on.

[Jack]

Rookie season, especially tight end for being a bully. You on the island by yourself.

[FanDuel Announcer]

Awful.

[Clay Matthews]

And your leg, this foot. There's a leg right here. You go out like this. Right there. There's three dudes, no pause, coming in your face.

[Delaney Walker]

What's that?

[Jack]

Take the.

[Clay Matthews]

You.

[Will Compton]

You die.

[Jack]

Die slow. You die. What they say die slow, right?

[Will Compton]

Die slow death. Die slow death.

[Clay Matthews]

You never had to play special teams, did you?

[Delaney Walker]

I did. In fact, my rookie year, I was on kickoff return and punt. I had. We were playing the Bears week one, Sunday Night Football. They were in safe. So I had Julius Peppers on this side and I think was Israel Adonijay.

[Jack]

Oh, yeah, he was huge, too.

[Delaney Walker]

I got a holding call on him. Capanos, our punter, had a beautiful punt, so we had to bring it back. Then he punted out of the end zone. Very next week, we play the. We play the Bengals. I get a holding call on kickoff return. Man, they took me off. Next week, though. Two sacks. Never had to play special teams. I like these sacks.

[Clay Matthews]

Those two weeks, though, you were in hell, huh? Special teams meetings.

[Delaney Walker]

I was just a third down, just running on the field for 20 plays a game. Not doing much. But once I got those two sacks, I was like, there's a lot more.

[Clay Matthews]

What a life that is. You'd only have to play 20 snaps in the game.

[Delaney Walker]

No, it's not a first round pick like you want to be starting.

[Jack]

Yeah, first round.

[Will Compton]

He was like. He was like Carol Landry Harold's rookie year. Just absolutely hated being put meetings. Hated.

[Delaney Walker]

So good at specialties.

[Will Compton]

No, I know. I was. I was going to say, don't let him get.

[Clay Matthews]

Two examples.

[Delaney Walker]

Three time special teams player of the year at usc. Never been done before.

[Will Compton]

Don't been down my. Don't be down my dog on teams. Walk on. Walk on. He had to earn his stripes on teams.

[Delaney Walker]

10 minutes from Scottsdale. Talking about you're from some small town where. What game are we at?

[Clay Matthews]

30 minutes. 30 minutes from Scottsdale.

[Delaney Walker]

Maybe a bike ride.

[Jack]

We just went to taking shots at each other.

[Clay Matthews]

We're at the Cowboys in the Raiders.

[Jack]

Cowboys versus Cowboys versus Raiders.

[Clay Matthews]

Cowboys at Raiders. Who cares? Cowboys are minus three and a half.

[Delaney Walker]

I've got no notes on the Cowboys.

[Clay Matthews]

That's. Hey, you don't gotta have notes. You want to know a Note? They score 42 points per game at home. They score 24 away. Raiders are bad though. So Cowboys.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, do you think the Raiders blow it up after this year? I mean, I still can't get the fact that they traded a third for Geno. Like they pursued him. Seattle just fleeced.

[Jack]

But that was Pete, though, you know?

[Delaney Walker]

No, no, I'm just saying in general. Like, obviously they had Spy Tech. Was he there? Was this his first year there or was he there? Who? Spy Tech. The. The gm. Right, Spy Tech.

[Jack]

No, he'd been there for last year. Well, he was there last year. He hired.

[Delaney Walker]

Am I wrong about this?

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay, so he's new. You know, they bring in Pete, Chip Kelly. I just feel like there's a lot of things not working you talk about. Pete is lamenting about the offense after it. Genti, because he was a 6 overall pick, maybe is not living up to expectations.

[Will Compton]

Even though Genti too. You see him on that pick.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And then the effort after the fact. I'm trying to get buddy down.

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, I missed that. But it's.

[Will Compton]

And Gino kind of getting after players. It's like, you don't play that.

[Clay Matthews]

Yelling at dudes, limping. Bad body language in the Broncos game. Just out there, he looked like me dragging his foot around. Dude just in school.

[Will Compton]

He got that OG walk too.

[Jack]

Yeah, he. Dude. Cause even when he got hurt and went back in the game, instead of just letting Cuzzo go out there and take that serious, he went back out there, didn't do nothing. Just pretty much went three and out real quick. I'm like, you should just set your ass in the tent and just see if old buddy can go out there and give us some energy. You know what I'm saying?

[Clay Matthews]

They're all disheveled right now. And then Max Crosby yelling at Akib to leave.

[Delaney Walker]

I know.

[Clay Matthews]

Keep to leave. Yelling at Max Crosby, what happened?

[Delaney Walker]

Oh, I missed this.

[Will Compton]

What happened on the Rush.

[Clay Matthews]

Akib Talib was some podcast. It was like. He's like, max Crosby, what are you doing? But he never stopped to run in his life. And Max, like, addressed it, like, to the camera, like, we can watch film. Like, you obviously don't watch film. Because I, like, pride myself in, like, stopping the run and getting to the pass rusher, like.

[Will Compton]

So there's like, podcast beef.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, podcast beef. Yeah. But I do think. I think Max handled it really well.

[Jack]

It's just. I feel like he was trying to get at it. You know, you try to get under people's skin. That's the new thing with podcasters. You come on someone's show and you'd be like, don't talk about this. They'd be like, yeah, I'm talking about this. It's gonna be at the end of the show, but I'm gonna throw it out there.

[Clay Matthews]

I feel like that's a. Keep his personality, though. Chain snatching.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Louder.

[Delaney Walker]

Individual.

[Jack]

That's him.

[Clay Matthews]

Loves, like, stirring the pot or he shot himself. And then Crosby is addressing something somebody said about him.

[Jack]

He shot himself. Yeah. Tale. I'm sure you're not thinking of Plax Kilberry.

[Delaney Walker]

No. This was Talib as well, right?

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Jack]

He shot himself or he got shot.

[Clay Matthews]

Himself in the leg.

[Jack]

Yeah, yeah.

[Odoo Advertiser]

I'm not.

[Jack]

I. I know I'm still in the hood scenarios.

[Clay Matthews]

You still keep up.

[Jack]

I still keep up.

[Will Compton]

You still keep up.

[Clay Matthews]

But anyway, to me, this game is like, you put the film on. Cowboys have an abysmal defense, but they have way more firepower and offense.

[Will Compton]

I was gonna say we get to kind of see some of these new toys now after their bye week.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. And I just think that the Raiders, there's nothing can hang their hat on from a. From an offensive standpoint. They give away the ball more than anybody, if not, like, top three in the entire league. Dax playing. Playing really well. I like the Cowboys.

[Jack]

Raiders also traded Jacoby Myers, too.

[Delaney Walker]

Their best receiver.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

Brock Bowers is their only playmaker on.

[Clay Matthews]

Offense in front of the show.

[Jack]

The only guy.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

And are they going to actually slow down the Cowboys offense?

[Delaney Walker]

No, they.

[Will Compton]

I mean, I like Cowboys minus three and a half here, too.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Jack]

Cowboys is going to win this game. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

All right. Cowboys, cowboys, cowboys, cowboys.

[Will Compton]

Across the board.

[Clay Matthews]

This game.

[Jack]

This is a good game.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Clay Matthews]

Classic game of the week Every Sunday's got games but only one fits just right. This is the true classic game of the week. Seattle Seahawks at the Los Angeles Los Angeles rams Sam Darnold versus Matthew Stafford Rams are favored at minus three. Just minus three. No halves there. Total points is 48 and a half. Be honest boys, I don't know where to go with this. Here's two great defenses.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Two great quarterbacks. One one wide receiver is on pace to break the all time yards like Puka, Devontae, Kyron.

[Delaney Walker]

Kyron's running well.

[Jack]

I mean if you look at they stats and statistics and ranks, they like.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, they're all right there.

[Delaney Walker]

Right.

[Clay Matthews]

They're all like 16, 17.

[Jack]

Yeah. It's like looking in the mirror right now.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

I love. I don't even care what happens. I just want to watch two really good football teams.

[Clay Matthews]

Exactly.

[Will Compton]

I want to see if the Seattle defense is going to be like you talk about McDonald versus McVeigh here. The Seattle defense, are they going to stay alive? Are they going to be real? Is this defense for real against the Rams in that offense? Is the Rams D line going to get after cme D in that passing attack?

[Jack]

Ain't the coaches built from the same cloth though?

[Will Compton]

Are you talking about. Are you talking about like McDonald and McVeigh?

[Jack]

Yeah, they built from the same cloth. Right.

[Clay Matthews]

They one's a defensive coach, one's an offensive coach.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. I don't think they're part of like the same tree. Like they're on the same tree.

[Clay Matthews]

Don't keep from Ravens.

[Delaney Walker]

Baltimore. Baltimore D Cor I don't spent the.

[Clay Matthews]

Year in Michigan but I mean the.

[Will Compton]

Tree'S so big now. You never know. You never know what I mean it's an old guy. LaFleur, McVeigh, Shannon, they all from the same.

[Jack]

That's what I was thinking. Like they all.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Here's here's, here's one stat that has me lean. Rams Seahawks have committed the second most giveaways in the NFL 616 and I think this game with two high powered offenses and two very equal defenses, it's going to come down to who takes care of football the most. Sam Bradford has how many touchdowns in three games.

[Delaney Walker]

Sam Bradford's retired but Sam.

[Clay Matthews]

Sorry.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, sorry. Sam Bradford made a lot of money.

[Clay Matthews]

I don't know why I said I sacked his ass.

[Delaney Walker]

Did you?

[Will Compton]

One sack of my career. Sam Bradford, let's go.

[Clay Matthews]

That's why I brought that up. Matthew Stafford, how many touchdowns do you have?

[Jack]

I thought you asked about Sam.

[Will Compton]

He has 13 in the last three.

[Clay Matthews]

It has. How many takeaways? Zero.

[Delaney Walker]

Last six games, 20 touchdowns, zero picks, bro.

[Will Compton]

He is front running.

[Clay Matthews]

But there's a piece of me that wants Sammy D to win this one because I want, like, there's still like, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, everyone's like, hey, they're playing real well, but wins it in. Sam Darnold, at the end of the year with the Vikings, he kind of started to sputter off a little bit. They lose the lines. They lose the first round of the playoffs. What was thinking? I would love for Sam Donald to, like, get this signature win and outdo a guy like Matthew Stafford. The only stat I can really put hang my hat on is the. Is the giveaways. And the Seahawks are just giving it away more. The Rams take care of the football better. Both opportunistic defenses.

[Delaney Walker]

So I'm sorry, did you say. Did you say you're taking the Rams?

[Clay Matthews]

I am going to take the Rams.

[Delaney Walker]

All right. I think Sam Darnold does get it done. I think the advantage lies in his mobility because when you have a good.

[Clay Matthews]

Pass rush, kind of move it around them.

[Jack]

No, when you.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, yes.

[Delaney Walker]

I mean, kinda. Yeah, when you say kinda, that's enough.

[Will Compton]

To, like, for his age.

[Clay Matthews]

For his age. He's extending plays.

[Delaney Walker]

Okay, here's okay. But I'm giving the advantage to the mobile quarterback against a great pass rush. I think Sam Darnold's got that ability. And I'm also given the advantage to Seattle's DBs. JP who's that out of South Carolina?

[Jack]

Nicky Manwari.

[Delaney Walker]

They got Barry, bbs, Witherspoon. I'm giving them like, I think staff are still going to cut him up, but I'm giving them the advantage and the mobile quarterback. But I wouldn't be surprised if it goes either way. Give me Seattle, dude.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm gonna take Seattle. I'm gonna take Seattle.

[Jack]

I mean.

[Clay Matthews]

I'm sitting there and you're like, I'm talking about how I love Sam Donald to get the signature win. You're like, I would love it too. And then I'm just like, yeah, let me just bet on hope then. Let me just emotionally sit here and be like, Sam Donald.

[Will Compton]

I will. Hawkeyes, Oregon Ducks. Bend emotion, heart, logic. Like you're saying, let me bet on Hope.

[Clay Matthews]

But I look at this and it's like, flip a coin, dude. Who's going to win this game?

[Jack]

Who's going to win this game?

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

So if I am in a flip a coin situation, like, why not play with emotion? Then, you know I'm going to flip that coin. It's going to be heads or tails. Either way, I'm going to win or lose. I might as well win or lose while betting on Sam Donald to get over the hump. And people be like, oh, it's not just a good year. This is a good quarterback who has resurrected his entire career after going to the school of Kevin o' Connell and is now, like, part of a team that truly can win a Super Bowl. And this is that win.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

So give me hope.

[Jack]

Y' all got a coin?

[Will Compton]

Can we get a coin? We had a coin.

[Delaney Walker]

Destiny.

[Jack]

Oh, don't worry about it. It's all right.

[Will Compton]

You want to flip something?

[Jack]

I was going to flip for this game. That was a good point.

[Clay Matthews]

You know what I'm saying?

[Will Compton]

We can't flip that.

[Jack]

We can't flip. We can't flip that. We can't flip that.

[Will Compton]

Aiden, we got a football in here. We got a ball in here.

[Jack]

Nah, don't worry about that.

[Delaney Walker]

Don't worry about it.

[Will Compton]

If you get a football, you go, laces or spaces.

[Delaney Walker]

Look, 12 employees and nobody's going to understood that.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, I never understood laces or spaces.

[Jack]

Oh, Siri.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, ask Siri.

[Jack]

We can't flip that on the show. Cause you can flip it behind you.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, go grab. Go grab a Lucy can on the bus.

[Jack]

Yeah, Lucy. There you go.

[Clay Matthews]

Do you know where you're going? Are you gonna stick with the coin flip?

[Will Compton]

I'm gonna stick with the coin flip. I love both these things. Yeah, these are the two, you know, once, like, the. If the Lions, like, handle big business. If Lions handle big business in Philly, like, you know, you can start talking about the Lions being one of the best teams in the fc. They already are.

[Jack]

Yeah.

[Will Compton]

But to me, we're getting to watch the two best teams in the NFC right now play this weekend. And I like. I like both of them.

[Clay Matthews]

My hope is one of these teams is playing in the super bowl this year.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Like, that's also an emotional thing because, like, the Lions can catch fire. The Eagles should figure out their emotional issues and get it done. The Buccaneers can get healthy and all of a sudden, you know, set the world on fire, which, that would be exciting, too, for Baker Mayfield. But these two teams. I'm watching And I'm just loving the storyline. I love that Matthew Stafford's back was hurt. He didn't play a lick in camp and he's just dicing everybody up. Sam, Donald, they give him $100 million and everyone's kind of like, easy. But dude, his ball placement is incredible. His decision making, his mobility is just enough. JSM would love to watch him break the record.

[Jack]

Of course.

[Delaney Walker]

So it's like, bro, what are the MVP implications of this game? Is it still too early? Because I think if.

[Will Compton]

If Stafford balls out.

[Delaney Walker]

I think if Stafford. If Stafford balls out, I think he's a clear front runner over Drake. Maybe. Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

They are currently tied as of today.

[Will Compton]

Hey, I see what you're saying.

[Jack]

Because that don't matter what they say on there, though.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, it does.

[Jack]

No, it does.

[Delaney Walker]

To the show. It matters. But yeah, I get you.

[Jack]

No, no, I mean like betting, yes, you can bet on it. But that's the opinion that those dudes may win, right? Mvp, we never know.

[Will Compton]

I think Stafford's all. He's just kind of quietly in the conversation. So to where it's like, you look at the odds, he's tied for leading where I think, I feel like universally in the conversation around it, he's always been the gu that's like the third wheel to everybody else. Like, he's quietly been in this conversation. And you're right. If he balls out because he only has two picks on the year. I know the last however many games you said 20 and 0. Like, he's only thrown two interceptions all year and the dude is balling out there in la. So you're right. I just think, like, it's going to be hard to keep Drake May out of it if they become this one seed in the afc. With Vrabel, it should have been like a rebuild year. But if Drake may continues along this path, he's been balling as well.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, I'm with you. I still think it's too early. You know, all these MVPs are decided in like the last.

[Clay Matthews]

They change every week.

[Jack]

They do, but these are.

[Clay Matthews]

There needs to be more of a competition revolving around Jonathan Taylor as well.

[Jack]

It does.

[Clay Matthews]

That's my little nugget. He should be in that conversation, especially.

[Delaney Walker]

After that London game. No, sorry, Jeremy.

[Clay Matthews]

Just like the pace he's on right now. Flip the Lucy King.

[Jack]

No, I know. Third in the Seattle. Hey, you want to go to Seattle? Here, Rams here.

[Clay Matthews]

Good.

[Will Compton]

Yeah. Seattle. Yeah. Seattle could be the Breakers. Okay, Seattle's the Breakers. Bottom of the can is Rams.

[Delaney Walker]

Rams.

[Will Compton]

Bob and the Cane's Rams. I'm going. My gut was kind of leaning Ramsay at home.

[Delaney Walker]

We got Seahawks. Hey, hey.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I do like that it's split. I would have not liked if it was all of us. Like, to me, this is. Hey, whoever wins, boys it, like, hopefully we get, like, an amazing game.

[Will Compton]

Hey, let's get an amazing game.

[Clay Matthews]

Let's get amazing.

[Jack]

Amazing game, man.

[Delaney Walker]

Amazing.

[Will Compton]

Yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

Shout out. Amazing game. Yeah.

[Delaney Walker]

And the.

[Clay Matthews]

Also you talk about me.

[Jack]

Bay, wait, in the What?

[Clay Matthews]

At home. 49ers game Thursday.

[Jack]

Over.

[Clay Matthews]

Defenses are too good.

[Will Compton]

We can't bet the over turnover inside the.

[Jack]

We're not going to take that part. Like, just because that's a fun game. You want the over in this kind.

[Delaney Walker]

Of battle like that. You would.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

[Jack]

You would.

[Clay Matthews]

Should we all just take the over as well in the hopes of a fun game?

[Delaney Walker]

I will be.

[Jack]

Is that something you just root for.

[Ryan Seacrest]

A good game.

[Delaney Walker]

On a good game?

[Clay Matthews]

He's a great numbers guy. I got to think about, like, bet the bus. Like, you were always really, like, kind of spot on with.

[Jack]

The Rams scored 42 points last week.

[Delaney Walker]

So did the Seahawks.

[Jack]

Seahawks did, too.

[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, but who they play.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, but the Seahawks. Offensively, the Seahawks weren't that great last week.

[Delaney Walker]

They didn't have. No, they were great in the first half. I think they scored 35 points. They sucked.

[Clay Matthews]

Second half. Yeah.

[Will Compton]

Game was already in the bag.

[Jack]

You could tell by the play caller. And I'm like, what are y' all doing?

[Will Compton]

35 and a half.

[Jack]

Like, come on, don't let me down.

[Clay Matthews]

And.

[Jack]

Strip.

[Clay Matthews]

Sack. Fumble. The fumble. Pickup six, two players.

[Jack]

I mean, I'm.

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[Delaney Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Matthews]

No, no. Knight was the one who caused fumble twice. Lawrence was the one that got the six twice. Yeah, great show.

[Jack]

No, no, we gotta bet the boys. Bet the boys. Parlay.

[Clay Matthews]

Hey, Mitch, we'll. We'll do the show.

[Delaney Walker]

You're not up here.

[Clay Matthews]

We'll let you know when it's over.

[Will Compton]

He said, great show.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, this is a great show.

[Delaney Walker]

Who we got?

[Clay Matthews]

We were talking, and I just see them in the back, like.

[Will Compton]

Woody Marks against the Titans. Running back for the Texans.

[Delaney Walker]

What college did he go to?

[Will Compton]

South Carolina, Southern Carolina?

[Clay Matthews]

Usc.

[Delaney Walker]

Usc.

[Will Compton]

There we go. Usc.

[Jack]

He been going nuts.

[Delaney Walker]

He's been playing well.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, it's a.

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He.

[Clay Matthews]

He's. That's a Titan shot.

[Delaney Walker]

What?

[Jack]

What?

[Clay Matthews]

Woody Marks. They're playing the Titans. That's. That's a. That's the reason why you look at this paint, you're like, yeah, all right. I can see that.

[Jack]

I mean, I. Yeah, I mean, I saw that too. I just was asking, was Woody going nuts?

[Delaney Walker]

Give me Ashton Genty. He's got three touchdowns in the last four games playing the Cowboys. I look for him to keep it up.

[Jack]

Josh Jacobs, man. Gotta go. Josh Jacobs. Yes. He do not get a lot of yards, but the man gets in the.

[Delaney Walker]

End zone six in a row.

[Jack]

Six in a row. That's all that matters.

[Clay Matthews]

Javante Williams against the Raiders.

[Jack]

I like it.

[Clay Matthews]

Monday Night Football.

[Delaney Walker]

O. Oh, you got me.

[Clay Matthews]

And I'm. I'm praying that you guys is hit so I can get to sit in the same batter's box as I did last week and just be right for you guys this time.

[Delaney Walker]

You and Clay are both on Monday night.

[Jack]

Yeah, it's two Monday nights.

[Delaney Walker]

Do you want me to take who's got Jonathan Taylor or what? What's who play?

[Jack]

They playing each other?

[Clay Matthews]

I got a foot. What's your. Dude, my foot hurts.

[Delaney Walker]

Jonathan Taylor's.

[Clay Matthews]

Oh, she's on by who?

[Delaney Walker]

Was she right? Nah, I like my pick. Genti.

[Jack]

You know, if Jonathan Taylor was playing, I gave him up one week I would have took him, but.

[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

My bold take will be whoever wins between the Seahawks and the Rams will be the NFC representative in the super bowl this year.

[Delaney Walker]

I like it.

[Will Compton]

Nice.

[Jack]

It don't have to be a bold take though, right?

[Delaney Walker]

It could be a McDonald's take.

[Will Compton]

It could be anything. Could be a toss, you know?

[Jack]

Well, my McDonald's hot take is Daniel Jones winning MVP.

[Clay Matthews]

That's pretty bold.

[Delaney Walker]

Not so hot.

[Jack]

That is very. That's a hot take.

[Delaney Walker]

That's spicy.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah. It doesn't have to be bold. Right here's my hot take. Doesn't have to be right. I don't have to say something crazy right now. Let me say the craziest thing possible.

[Jack]

Not crazy, brother.

[Delaney Walker]

My hot take is that is Tyler Warren who's going to win offensive rookie of the year in this. In this last game. He had a fourth and two where he snatched out of defender's hands. And then he had a beautiful seven route right in his fingertips. Sold me on him. I know I was high on Emeka Abuka, but it's kind of cooled off for me, even though he's playing incredibly well. But Tyler Warren, stud shout out Big ten guys.

[Clay Matthews]

I like that dude.

[Jack]

He's a beast.

[Clay Matthews]

Yeah, I like that. Currently plus 600.

[Delaney Walker]

Clay put. Put a thousand on for me.

[Jack]

What is that?

[Clay Matthews]

Jones is 13 plus 6,000.

[Jack]

I'm taking that. Y' all don't miss with quarterbacks. Y' all know that.

[Clay Matthews]

That is true.

[Jack]

I don't miss with.

[Delaney Walker]

Hey, do they roll with Mac Jones the rest of the year?

[Jack]

Huh?

[Delaney Walker]

Do they wrote to the 49ers roll with Mac Jones the rest of you?

[Jack]

Well, they go. So they gonna let Brock get his opportunity. If he don't win, they gonna put him back. Mac back in watch.

[Delaney Walker]

And then it's. Oh, no, because I think you're gonna. I think he rolled.

[Jack]

It is gonna happen.

[Delaney Walker]

They're gonna let Mack roll the rest of the year.

[Clay Matthews]

I think so too. Get Purdy's toe right. It's a weird injury.

[Jack]

Oh, you so. Oh, you saying that, Mac. Even if Mac. I mean, if Purdy get healthy, he won't play.

[Will Compton]

That's what you said, Clay saying QB controversy as we speak right now.

[Jack]

Oh, okay. Okay. I like that tape.

[Delaney Walker]

No, I'm not saying. I'm not saying that. I'm saying with Purdy's injury and not knowing how healthy he is, I think you roll with the hot hand that is Mac Jones. Because even though they lost whoever it was like, he. They're still playing well.

[Will Compton]

So Brock Purdy's healthy, you're saying continue to roll with Mac Jones.

[Delaney Walker]

Listen, everything that's coming out right now, but the good news is, in order to avoid this controversy is like his toes not right. And it sounds like if he does go back in there, he's going to re injure it. So I'm just saying you just keep rolling with this and just, just play it as it's kind of like J.J. mcCarthy and Carson Wentz. You didn't know when he was going to be able to come back until Carson went to her story like, all right, roll, roll McCarthy back out there. You got to kind of go with the hot hand, but you can hide behind the fact that your starter is hurt.

[Will Compton]

So you're saying even if Brock Purdy's healthy, we're going to continue to say that his toes.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't know. Not there yet. I'm just saying. That's why I was asking.

[Will Compton]

There's a quarterback controversy.

[Delaney Walker]

I'm just saying go with the hot hand. There's no controversy there.

[Will Compton]

But there would be a controversial controversy because of the money that they get him help.

[Clay Matthews]

One hand's got league minimum, the other hand's got $270 million.

[Will Compton]

That's what I'm saying.

[Delaney Walker]

That's what I'm saying. You got to protect him who you've invested in.

[Will Compton]

But you're saying we can't let this QB controversy get out. We just got to say Brock's going to remain.

[Delaney Walker]

I don't think it's a controversy yet.

[Jack]

It will be if he's healthy. He's not playing.

[Delaney Walker]

That's why they're going to keep putting out his toes. Not right.

[Clay Matthews]

So hence quarterback.

[Will Compton]

Matt Stafford has another four touchdown game against the second Seahawks.

[Delaney Walker]

He was always. He was already the first quarterback. Four passes to have three consecutive games in NFL history with four touchdowns. He's gonna do it again.

[Will Compton]

That's what I got.

[Jack]

That's, that's, that's a big one. It's a bold tape. I like it.

[Will Compton]

Some. While you're dipping in that buffalo zesty sauce.

[Clay Matthews]

While you're dipping in denim.

[Will Compton]

Dipping in denim. Great show, boys.

[Jack]

Great show.

[Clay Matthews]

You good?

[Delaney Walker]

Amazing show.

[Will Compton]

All right, big hugs, tiny kisses. We will see you next week.

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[Jack]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Delaney Walker]

All.

[Jack]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo, drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note, just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

Was bloody, complex and profoundly consequential.

[Clay Matthews]

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[Will Compton]

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[Clay Matthews]

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