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Clay Matthews
Welcome to another episode of the Locker Room. We are happy you're here. If you are not subscribed to the channel, all the boys ask, simply hit the subscribe button. If you're listening on audio, make sure you're following us on those audio channels. We have a massive week of NFL football coming up. Before we get there, here are the Week 5 standings, the records from last week, the records for the season total going on right now. Delaney. We'll get some answers from Delaney because he's been to the top of the mountain, apparently. For the NFL slate this week, we got Dallas at Carolina, Seattle, Jacksonville, Detroit at Kansas City, Buffalo and Atlanta, Chicago and Washington, San Francisco at Tampa Bay. Boys and ball camaraderie. The Locker Room. We are here. Let's have a show.
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Jacob Goldstein
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Clay Matthews
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Clay Matthews
Now the next question we have Delaney Walker.
Jacob Goldstein
What up? I've been at the top. I've been at the bottom. Now I'm at the top. My shoes are glues.
Delaney Walker
Looky here, man. This is football. You know what I'm saying? If I gotta tell you how football works, then you in the wrong sport. Shit happens every Sunday. It's ups and downs, you know what I mean? You never know what's gonna happen. And I've been picking the best teams possible, but they've been going out there. Coaching has let me down. Oh, it's been coaching. Okay.
Clay Matthews
It's been coaching.
Delaney Walker
It's been coaching key plays, right? They're not calling, not going for twos, missing field goals when they should just run the ball in the end zone. Man, let's.
Jacob Goldstein
Let's do this.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Just get seven instead of three.
Delaney Walker
So you get it.
Clay Matthews
Yes.
Jacob Goldstein
So look, score more points than the other team.
Delaney Walker
Look, it looks bad right now, right?
Jacob Goldstein
It looks really bad.
Delaney Walker
It looks bad. But if y' all watch the show prior years, y' all know I never fall short of being a champion.
Jacob Goldstein
All right, here's what worries me for you.
Clay Matthews
Great speech. Any given Sunday, Monday afternoon, we.
Jacob Goldstein
I sat there and I was talking to the boys. You were 05 before the Chiefs Jaguars game. And I thought to myself, the best thing for Delaney is for the Chiefs to win. Because if you go to 06, that's rock bottom. You can only go up from there. Nah, you're a guy that's got to hit rock bottom before he gets back up to the top.
Delaney Walker
No. One in five. I've been there.
Jacob Goldstein
I need you at your base camp.
Delaney Walker
Listen, one in five. I've been there before and still went to the playoffs.
Clay Matthews
Positive news. You fade Delaney, you're up.
Jacob Goldstein
True.
Clay Matthews
You fade Delaney, you were five and one.
Jacob Goldstein
That's a good.
Clay Matthews
That's a good. There's different ways.
Delaney Walker
That's what I'm saying. Y' all should go against every bet I choose so y' all can fade me.
Clay Matthews
I'm just talking about. There's commenters out there. Delaney don't know what he's talking about. Great.
Delaney Walker
They never say that out there about me. That comes from Willie Will mouth.
Clay Matthews
All my burners. Yeah, my burners.
Delaney Walker
They don't talk about the mule like that. They know the mule gonna get that.
Jacob Goldstein
Where's the 18th best gambler in Nashville?
Delaney Walker
You know, man, he got arrested, man.
Jacob Goldstein
No shit. What happened?
Delaney Walker
Feds ran up.
Jacob Goldstein
Oh, my God.
Delaney Walker
I can't speak on it.
Jacob Goldstein
That's what happened this past week.
Delaney Walker
I don't know when he got. I can't speak on it.
Clay Matthews
Right, yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
It's still an ongoing case.
Delaney Walker
But, you see, my man got locked up and you saw everything start going down.
Jacob Goldstein
So where do you go now? Do you have the 17th to the 19th best gambler?
Delaney Walker
You know, I've been making calls, man, you know, trying to reach out to some plugs and see which guys I can trust. You know what I mean? Make sure they ain't running no illegal.
Jacob Goldstein
Right?
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Can't have that.
Delaney Walker
Can't have that.
Jacob Goldstein
We do everything by the book here.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, we do everything by the book.
Jacob Goldstein
No doubt.
Clay Matthews
Can we talk about the biggest headline coming out of the weekend?
Jacob Goldstein
Go ahead.
Clay Matthews
How'd the championship game go? Flag football.
Will
Clay Matthews boys. We. We lost.
Jacob Goldstein
Oh, no.
Delaney Walker
Did you make it to the championship?
Will
Yeah, we made it. Hey, so you lost. Hey, Thursday we had an incredible practice. Incredible. Felt so good. We went in there Saturday in the semis, spanked them. It was a. We played a team we had played earlier in the season. We only won 27, 20. Coaches made some adjustments, players showed up, huge stops on defense. Everyone played. Felt great going into the championship. Championship get there a little early. This other team, we split the series one and one. Really well coached team. We're up by six with 12 seconds left. All we got to do is pull the flag. Clock's going to run out. Coach's son, he runs it in. We miss about seven flags. They score. So it's tied up. We give up the extra point as well. And they pretty much hit a walk off, you know, extra points to win the game. So we lost by one point.
Clay Matthews
Parents storm the field.
Will
Parents, you know, they're happy when they beat me because, you know, we, we've kind of been having some success. No doubt about it, you know what I'm saying? But man, I'll tell you the worst part. So just little kids going by, hitting the gritty on me and stuff. So after the game too, like, you know, this is probably the first year where I feel like the kids are at the age, the kindergarten level, six years. But it's true where we play to win and the kids understand, like you put in the work, like, you know, there's a payoff. And so they were so distraught after the game. I get down on. I was just telling Mitch I got down on a need to talk to him. Bro, I start getting emotional in front of them. I start tearing up and stuff. And like people like, oh, it's just kid. I'm like, bro, it means so much to them and it meant something to me. I was pissed that we lost, but I started getting emotional and man, we just came up short. But we'll be back next year. Hey. But hey, the worst part though, not everyone got to play in the championship game. Judgment call. I made a decision that we're going to go get it my email right now. I'm dealing with a lot of moms out there who want my head. So not only did we lose, I got to deal with that. I got to look at my son, he's looking at me just rolling his eyes like I didn't do enough.
Delaney Walker
Well, he didn't play him.
Will
Oh, yeah, no, my.
Clay Matthews
You know, his son made a judgment.
Jacob Goldstein
Call and said, oh, the game is in this thing the whole time.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, the game was tight. He needed all of his best.
Delaney Walker
I thought it was rules, though. I thought it was rules that everyone had to play.
Will
Everyone has to step on the field. Not everyone has rule. And I listen, I probably could have managed expectations better. I know at the beginning of the year, the first thing I said is, you know, when you bring everybody up like, hey, we're here to have fun. We're here to. I say we're here to win. And how we win. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna be attentive. We're going to practice, we're gonna work hard. But I think, you know, some parents on top of the. The loss and seeing. And as a parent, I understand, you know, some of these kids didn't play. So now I'm kind of taking my lumps as well, not only with the loss, but with parents fan base calling.
Clay Matthews
For a coaching change.
Will
Public enemy number. They ain't calling for a coaching change because they know, hey, we're on the up and up. But, you know, we might. We might have to.
Delaney Walker
You know, they paid. They pay, right?
Will
Well, yeah, they pay to play.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will
So pay to play.
Delaney Walker
I want my kid to play.
Will
They pay. They pay for many. I mean, you know, we. We put our kids in sports for many reasons, to develop them to grow, and they absolutely get that. But we're talking the championship game. I'm going for it. I'm trying to win for the team. Do you know what I'm saying? So, like, so I'm curious if I can ask you guys, do we feel good if we play everybody but we get our asses kicked, or do we try and go for it, try and win, be unapologetically competitive, and we. And we fall short, but not everybody plays.
Clay Matthews
So I'm going for the dub.
Delaney Walker
But did you tell the parents this? See, that should have been a meeting you should have had with the parents and baby.
Will
But how many cases? Key.
Delaney Walker
It's key.
Jacob Goldstein
I agree.
Will
That's what I'm saying. Perhaps I could have managed expectations better. But, you know, at the beginning of the year when I said, hey, this is. This is what we're doing, and. And, you know, we were a good enough team to where we had some close games, we had some big wins, everybody plays Even if some play more than others. But in the championship game, it was back and forth all game, and there was just. There was no time for that. So, I mean, I. Like I said, I apologize to these parents because from a. From a, you know, a parent's perspective, I understand where they're coming from, but I hope they understand where I'm coming from, and then we can agree to disagree on what's the right age to go for. What's the right age to teach the kids. It's about winning. We're not in this to participate. This is a meritocracy. That's how I teach my kid. No, I'm telling you, that's how I write. And he's all about it. He lives it. I was wearing a Packer sweatshirt this morning. He's like, I'm going to play in the NFL. Let's go. So it's okay. It's okay that you finish second. You know, it's okay if we participate. So, you know, I get. I can be a lot in that regard, but I don't think there's a right or wrong answer.
Clay Matthews
It's just.
Will
I'm having to take my lumps right now.
Delaney Walker
But I see where you come from, because how we grew up, you didn't have to play those kids that we didn't consider maybe the most talented kids on the field, right? We didn't have to play them. They was like, yeah, they knew.
Will
They.
Delaney Walker
They knew, like, long as we win, I could say I was champ. Like, they didn't care. But nowadays, this new generation, they like my kid. I don't care how sorry my kid is, he need to be in the game. You know what I mean? Even though you're going to cost us a championship.
Will
But listen, the reality is, like, I got them in all these players as much as possible. But I do understand when you're coming over the sideline after every touchdown or defensive stop, whatever it may be, and they're, you know, their parents are like.
Jacob Goldstein
Just wait your turn.
Will
Just keep cheering. Like, I get it. From a parent's perspective, I get it. I completely understand. But all bets are off in the championship. We're going for it. We're trying to win this thing. Everybody's in. And we all got amazing NFL coaching, you know, expertise. I'm just saying it's the rally of it. Like these other. Their parents volunteering. And I'm out there up till midnight creating new plays, missing Thursday streams because, hey, the kids got to put together a new game.
Jacob Goldstein
Thursday extremes. Yeah, we were okay with it because you were going for a championship, but.
Will
Since I didn't.
Jacob Goldstein
We'Re a results based program.
Clay Matthews
And look, also, it's like, you know, yeah, you're paying for your kids to play, but you're paying for growth. Is your young man, is he a better young man after the season? Sometimes the growth, it ain't a straight line.
Jacob Goldstein
You're never a straight line.
Will
And this is why you're going to be told no. They're all hitting me.
Jacob Goldstein
Peaks and valleys.
Will
They're all hitting me that they're disappointed that, you know, their son or daughter didn't get to play because of, you know, development should be more important. Well, we're developing. In practice, we're developing. You may not be getting all the game reps, but shoot, when I was a kid, my dad didn't play me, like if I wasn't deserving of playing. So I know people are going to go, oh, you're too cutthroat. They're just kindergarteners. But tell me then, when the right age is to where we start playing to win and we invest in it and we're not just out there to have participation trophies.
Delaney Walker
I mean, I played tackle football at.
Will
8 years old here. I.
Delaney Walker
They was like, you not good enough. Simple on the side. I mean, not me.
Will
But.
Jacob Goldstein
Don'T worry, Delaney, two, two things. I think we're going to just coach the result. Obviously, you just tell the parents before, listen, this is the championship game. Not everybody. And bring up all the parents, good parents and the bad.
Will
Can I interject real quick?
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah.
Will
When we played the semifinal game, I had the same mentality. My dogs are going to go, we're going to go get this. We, we played very well, scored, you know, 40 points, they scored 20. I was able to get all my kids in there. So it's not like these kids didn't play the entire year. Like, they got, they got playing time, just not as much. It's just the championship game. I think you add a loss on top of a group mentality because there's about four kids who didn't play and then it, you know, it's, it falls, it falls back on me. So I'm sorry to cut you off.
Jacob Goldstein
No, I mean, I would just tell the parents, listen, championship game, we don't know how the score is going to go.
Will
You're right.
Jacob Goldstein
Push come to shove. Push come to shove. Like I had a. We got to go to win the game.
Will
Manager.
Jacob Goldstein
Because of it.
Will
Yes.
Jacob Goldstein
The next thing, just hearing your story, that I would maybe just Keep on your radar a little bit. Your kid loses his championship. A couple of days later, you're in the packers show and he's talking about playing the NFL. That's a perfect opportunity to go Friday night lights on and pull out your super bowl ring. Listen, you got to put in work now, get you one of these type of vibes.
Will
Well, it's baseball season now, so, like, we're switching over. We're already into baseball.
Jacob Goldstein
We're already into baseball.
Will
We've been in baseball. So we're just going to keep going.
Clay Matthews
You know, as four meatheads, we could challenge ourselves, like, do. Are we. Are we talking about this? Are we. Is our ego getting the way of some 6 year olds playing?
Will
Listen, you're absolutely right. My wife reminds me, like, hey, reminder, this isn't about you. This is about the kids. So, yes, of course I have to deal with that, you know, but the reality is, like, my ego wants to win, but I also want to bestow that competitive nature upon my son. That doesn't make him a bad person. That's the problem nowadays. If you go for it, if you want to be great, you know, you guys want, you know, if we want to be great, everybody looks at you like, there's something wrong with you. What's wrong with you? There's nothing wrong with me. I'm just trying to be great and I want these kids to be great. And you know what? To the contrary, I had dads text me being like, this is the most amazing experience. I really love what you're doing. The amount of time and effort you're pouring into our kids. They're growing and developing so much. So I know there's validation there. It's just, I think this is the crossroads where we decide, you know, as a parent, when you sign your kid up, what do you want for them? And there's nothing wrong. If you want to go out there and participate and have a good time and we use this as a play time, then that's great. If we're out there to try and win and maybe play time's not going to be fair, but everybody's going to. You know, practice is going to be tough and there's going to be expectations. I think now is that kind of. At least for me, that split in the road, you got to set the precedence, Clay.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, I thought I did.
Delaney Walker
I couldn't be a kid.
Will
But it's wild, though, to me, that'd be so fun. You'll be. I just want to put a bow on this. It's wild to me, though, that I invest so much time and just kindergarten. Kindergarten flag football. And I feel like everybody's at my throat. I'm like, there's nobody who cares more about your kids than me. I'm literally on the verge of tears talking to your kids, you know, like, that should tell you how much I care that they came up short. We came up short. We're in this together. So. Anyways, tough weekend? Tough weekend. Hey, for the Panther Cubs, you wear.
Clay Matthews
Your heart on your sleeve.
Will
I do. The Panther Cubs. We're moving up to the Panthers next year. We're dropping the Cubs.
Jacob Goldstein
Got to. Yeah.
Delaney Walker
He ain't gonna play tackle.
Will
He's young right now. He's six. You ain't gotta play tackle until we gotta protect that.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like, you got to play at 8 years old. I think my first tackle year was 10. But, you know, it's different. Obviously, it's different. We gotta. We got enough data. Yeah.
Will
Football, you have to develop.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. You get the skills. Teach you not to be scared. You can juke people. Yeah. No, that's understandable. Yeah.
Will
I get it.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Hey, well, we're.
Will
You got any songs?
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
The jets first. Well, yeah.
Clay Matthews
Let's talk about the Jets.
Will
Jets.
Jacob Goldstein
So, Fanduel, correct me if I'm wrong, club fanduel has a tab that says, when is the Jets. When are the jets going to get their first win? That's what I'm hearing right now. Okay. And we have the schedule right here. This is the jets upcoming schedule. They play the Broncos this week. They're not going to win that game.
Clay Matthews
No.
Jacob Goldstein
Then they play the Panthers. Possible.
Delaney Walker
Possibles.
Jacob Goldstein
Possible.
Delaney Walker
Possible.
Jacob Goldstein
Browns. Possible.
Will
Wait.
Clay Matthews
And with this, too, the Fun thing on FanDuel is every game it's a different set of odds. So if you're looking at Broncos this week, it's plus 300. The Panthers, the Nest next week, plus 120. And then the odds just start getting bigger because, you know, they're. It's an O for team.
Jacob Goldstein
It's an zero for team. Yeah. Brown. After. After their bye week in week nine, they got Browns, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins, Jags, Saints, Patriots, Bills.
Delaney Walker
Oh, my gosh.
Jacob Goldstein
And I have myself a little paper popper. Stat, courtesy of Ryan Nolan. Let's see here.
Will
Where you want our bet? Is that what we're asking?
Clay Matthews
When do we think the jets are going to win this season?
Will
Before yesterday's trade for Joe Flacco, I would have said the jets would have beat the Bengals. But now that they've Got a quarterback who will just air it out to get his garage. I don't think they get it done. And then the Browns defense is nasty. Nasty. Going up against Flacco again. Patriots playing better than ever. Ravens are going to have Lamar Jackson back. Falcons are hot and cold.
Delaney Walker
I'm going Panthers. Fuck that. Week seven Panthers.
Clay Matthews
They plus 120. I'm taking. I'm going Ravens plus 6500.
Delaney Walker
You think they gonna beat the Ravens?
Clay Matthews
I mean, not really, but if I'm going through this, they can kind of.
Delaney Walker
You know, Ravens, they suspect.
Clay Matthews
They are suspect.
Jacob Goldstein
Ravens are suspect. But by week 12, if they're healthy, they're gonna be in panic mode, making up for this first part of the.
Will
Season, we gotta win everything.
Jacob Goldstein
The sense of urgency. I love the odds.
Clay Matthews
Ravens.
Jacob Goldstein
I love the odds.
Clay Matthews
Ravens.
Will
I'm going with week 14 versus the Dolphins. What are those odds?
Clay Matthews
Week 14 gets the Dolphins plus 4,500.
Delaney Walker
God damn.
Will
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Dolphins. Dolphins. That's a good pick.
Delaney Walker
They're going to go 0 and 13.
Will
Up until that point.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. That's crazy.
Delaney Walker
I'm taking the.
Will
You just asked me when they were going to win. You didn't ask me to predict them going 0 and 13.
Jacob Goldstein
I gave you the schedule.
Will
Dolphins.
Jacob Goldstein
Which.
Clay Matthews
Which one are you taking?
Delaney Walker
I'm taking the Panthers.
Clay Matthews
Panthers. Taylor, which one are you taking? Let's get into some games.
Jacob Goldstein
Let me do. What's week 18? Bills odds.
Clay Matthews
What? Plus 30,000.
Jacob Goldstein
I'll do that.
Will
I'll do that one. Bills will be resting their starters.
Jacob Goldstein
I like that one.
Clay Matthews
God.
Jacob Goldstein
Okay. Hey, stat here for you.
Clay Matthews
Oh, that's smart.
Jacob Goldstein
Aaron Glenn, right?
Delaney Walker
That's fucking smart.
Will
Head coach of the.
Delaney Walker
I didn't think about it.
Jacob Goldstein
Big defensive guy, big defensive mind. The 2025 jets are the first team since 1950 to start 05 and have zero takeaway in each of their five games.
Will
God damn.
Jacob Goldstein
They've also given up 7 4th most giveaways in the NFL.
Clay Matthews
Not good.
Jacob Goldstein
Not good. This Michelob Ultra, you got this fun little thing going on. You know about it because you're three and. Oh. Against me right now. And that. That grinds my gears, but it's essentially playing for an Ultra.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. You asking for another opportunity?
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, I'm asking another opportunity. I want it to be this fun little competition. I see you got the Ultra right there. If you want to show the camera after I beat this ass, I'll be holding that Ultra in my hand on three.
Clay Matthews
One, two, three, shoot.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah. See ya. Hand that thing back.
Doug
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
You thought I wouldn't do it twice.
Clay Matthews
Three and one Superior is worth playing for.
Jacob Goldstein
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Clay Matthews
All right, Delaney was just talking about we got the Panthers this week. We got Cowboys Dallas going to Carolina. The odds on this game, Cowboys minus three and a half the over under on this game and a half.
Jacob Goldstein
Go ahead, Will.
Clay Matthews
I kind of like the Panthers.
Will
Oh, whoa.
Clay Matthews
I kind of like the Panthers.
Will
Whoa.
Delaney Walker
How hot the Cowboys looking right now.
Jacob Goldstein
Panthers did Panthers look good versus Miami? Yeah, looked really, really good. Miami, their defense held them to 14 yards on 13 design runs. I feel that they stepped in behind the line of scrimmage six out of 13 of those runs. So if you run defense standpoint, which I know, it's Miami, yeah, we're showing a little heart. Yeah, Panther's a lot of times too, are down a lot and then end up coming back.
Clay Matthews
Right. They were down like you. You're in second quarter, they're down 17 nothing. They end up rattling back. They're down 17, 13 in the fourth quarter. Bryce has got Bryce Young now. He's got a live arm. Like he's solid.
Delaney Walker
He's solid, he's solid.
Clay Matthews
And they have a solid run game. Obviously. Like to me it's, it's. I have written down here, Dallas defense equals bad.
Delaney Walker
No, they defense right now, give up plays. Defense, give up plays.
Will
You say Bryce Young is solid. Like obviously had that horrible fumble in the first half where you're right out of his hands. He had the interception. He's averaging under 200 yards a game passing. And if you take away that 300 yard, you know, game versus the Cardinals, that where he did play well, you know, he's averaging about 150 yards. They've their run game. Rico Dowdle comes out of nowhere and rushes for over 200 yards. That's what kept him in the game yesterday. I don't. You're right. Cowboys defense, dead last, their worst. But the way Dak Prescott is playing right now, the belief I have in him to go out and overcome missing three linemen, not really having, you know, I mean Javante Williams did have, you know, 100 yard game, wide receiver, one out. Give me the boys. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Clay Matthews
I do like Dallas. I just like this spot for Carolina. They're two and oh, at home again, like them coming back. I feel like, you know, I'm not saying it's going to spark them into going in winning mode, but they kind of have the confidence. And when I watch Bryce Young, yeah, he doesn't have all the greatest stats in the world, but the dude plays confident. He plays, he makes decisions quick. Yeah, he plays hard. He gets himself out of some sticky situations. He's got a live arm and I just like, I just like the Panthers here.
Jacob Goldstein
I don't disagree that the Cowboys have an extremely bad defense. Their last game against the jets being, being the jets, they record a 50.9% pressure rate. It's the best that the Cowboys have had all season long. And you think, oh, the jets, the jets, the jets. Well, week one, they played the Steelers against a team that has $179 million in their defense and they put up a lot of points against them. So to see the Cowboys defense at the very least be like, oh, that was good, makes me feel a whole lot better because Dak Prescott is playing an MVP caliber right now, even without CD Lamb. George Pickens has really picked it up. He's a someone has pulled George Pickens into a room and said, hey, by the way, you can make $30 million a year if you just try hard this season. And you can be that guy that just has massive, like, was it contract years and then kind of fizzles and then contract year and does his thing. I like the Cowboys minus three and a half year. It's at the Panthers. I don't see that being a big home field advantage. The Panthers kind of know they're dead over there in Charlotte.
Will
Give me Cowboys minus three and a half as well.
Jacob Goldstein
Cowboys minus three and a half.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I mean, I. I got to go. Cowboys.
Jacob Goldstein
Give me Panthers plus three and a half.
Delaney Walker
No, I'm taking Cowboys. Honestly, I think that I. It's crazy when you say that because it kind of sway me towards the Panthers too, because I think this is going to be a two point game, to be honest with you, because the Cowboys defense is terrible.
Jacob Goldstein
So take the Panthers.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, if it's two points, Cowboys going on the road again to the east Coast.
Will
Charlotte's not a hard spot to play.
Delaney Walker
No, it's not.
Clay Matthews
It's not a hard spot to play.
Delaney Walker
It's actually nice to play in Charlotte.
Jacob Goldstein
It's nice. We got mop there.
Will
How about I say when? They were rolling with cam and it was tough.
Jacob Goldstein
They ain't got cam, though.
Delaney Walker
I know they do. They don't have cam.
Will
Okay, so we go.
Delaney Walker
I'm gonna take the Panthers.
Clay Matthews
Fuck. All right, game number two, we got Seattle traveling out to Jacksonville against the Jaguars. Jaguars are favored by one and a half year over under on this game. 46 and a half, fellas of Jaguars boys. Jaguars tell you about these Jaguars.
Will
You know which Jaguars look good if it weren't for a bad pass call against Travis Hunter against the Cincinnati Bengals with a healthy burrow.
Delaney Walker
Oh, they'd be undefeated.
Will
Jacksonville's 50 right now. Right. I said last week they're not a good team. They got good players. Maybe that's still true after watching this game. But they find a way to win and I think there's something to be said for that. Whatever Liam Cohen's got going on down there, it's working. There's a belief, the Trevor Lawrence experience, you can guarantee he's going to. He's going to make amazing plays. He's also going to give the ball over once or twice, as you saw on the interception on the goal line. But give him credit for that last throw to Brian Thomas Jr. On the side. On the sideline right there. Bring him down. And even on that play he scores on, falls down twice. Looks goofy, bro.
Clay Matthews
How about Chris Jones? He makes that play, he would have made it. Yeah, he keeps that from happening.
Jacob Goldstein
He said there are so many things that. Twice that play for the Chiefs that were just very unchief. Like even from the kickoff.
Will
Oh, yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Balls up in the 40. They get a sack and they still allow them. They have this like these gaping wide holes in zone. They get a pass interference that puts them on the two yard line.
Delaney Walker
No, it's just, it's not them.
Jacob Goldstein
Very unchief like. Yeah, very unchief like. But Trevor Lawrence, in that last two minute drive, he had a couple of throws that were like. That's special. Yeah, a couple of special throws. Yeah.
Clay Matthews
That's why I like Seattle here.
Jacob Goldstein
You like Seattle? I like Seattle here too.
Clay Matthews
I think Jaguars are a good football team again, I've said all year, best kept secret in the afc. Your boy has said that.
Jacob Goldstein
Secrets out, though.
Clay Matthews
Secrets out though. Secret is out. But what we're. Jaguars, like, they have a very solid run game. Seattle's very good defensively against the run. They're going to get some key guys back on defense this week. Sammy D. You know I love me some Sammy D. After having that tough loss against a very good Tampa Bay Buccaneer team. It will be. The only thing that makes me nervous is they're traveling, going all the way across the country to Jacksonville. But I like Seattle. I like Seattle in this spot. I like them getting a bounce back game.
Jacob Goldstein
I feel like the travel across the country thing doesn't apply as much to the NFL as we were just shooting our college football.
Clay Matthews
True, but corner to corner. Corner to corner's a lot of corner.
Delaney Walker
You get one of the big boy.
Jacob Goldstein
Planes, the lay down kids like you're. You're living five and a half hour.
Delaney Walker
You gotta get that.
Jacob Goldstein
Oh.
Will
Hey, well, check out this stat though.
Clay Matthews
Let's give it a say.
Will
Hey, Seahawks.
Delaney Walker
All right, buddy.
Will
Nine and one on the road, two and ten at home. So I know you're worried about them traveling. Oh, we can't focus. All right.
Clay Matthews
I couldn't focus.
Will
Okay. I'm sorry. Seahawks, 9 and 1 on the road. 2 and 10 at home. Going on the road. I know you like the Seahawks. I'm just helping you. I know Delaney likes to switch his picks. Seahawks. Sammy D. Playing elite Jackson, Smith and Jigba. It's the year of the Ohio State receivers. Him. And it's that.
Jacob Goldstein
It's that every single year, every single year, Ohio State receivers just. Well, at least one of them goes.
Delaney Walker
Off at least one.
Will
Yeah, we mentioned all. I don't know. I don't. Their defense, Seattle's defense, they only had one hit, one sack on Baker last week. I picked the Bucs. Only one here to pick the Bucs. They came through because Seattle's defense let them down. That's all the quotes that are coming out of Seattle right now is how they need to find a way. Next man up. I think they're too injury plagued. I don't think they're going to be able to hang with Jacksonville. In Jacksonville after this big win last week. Give me the Jags.
Jacob Goldstein
Seattle's got six defensive players with double digit pressures this year. I mean that's, that's impressive. Sam Darnold passes over 10 yards. He's at a 71% completion rating. He's 32 for 45, 700 yards and six touchdowns. Jack Smith. Smith and Jigba, he's what, second in the NFL in both and deep receiving yards. They can, they can throw the ball over the yard. Sam Darnold is playing unbelievable right now. When you watch a Cardinal game a couple weeks ago, that Thursday night game, he. There's a couple balls that aren't, they weren't caught, but they're put in a spot where it's a drop for the receiver. They are perfectly placed footballs. I like a get back game for Seattle. I like it.
Clay Matthews
Seattle, Seattle, Jacksonville, Seattle.
Delaney Walker
I already, I had Seattle this whole.
Will
Time, y' all know, stand alone.
Jacob Goldstein
Just like last week with the Bucks. Standalone.
Clay Matthews
That's who I got with us. I know he going with us. All right, here we go. Here's one for you. Yeah, you, you're. You're cold right now. So we literally said if we fade.
Jacob Goldstein
You, we're going to be all right.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, they should switch all picks. Whatever I pick, y' all should go opposite Detroit.
Clay Matthews
Going to Kansas City. Kansas City is favored in this game -2 and a half against arguably the best team in the NFL right now.
Jacob Goldstein
They are the best team.
Clay Matthews
The Detroit Lions. Over, under on this game, 52 and a half. Delaney will start with you.
Delaney Walker
Well, like I was just saying, they averaging 34 points a game. The Lions, they, you know, in the beginning I was off the Lions. I didn't know what to think about the Lions, you know, but they stepped it up. I think the offensive coordinator just really got with golf and they just said what plays you like to run? Let's do these. Let's get them going. Let's get these boys running. Going against the Chiefs we saw last week the Chiefs play the Jags, good game, but look like those boys is giving up. I don't feel like they the same Chiefs, right?
Will
Maybe not. Maybe not.
Delaney Walker
And the Lions right now, they on fire, man. I, I just, I'm not going to go against the Lions today, so I'm going to take the Lions. I hope y' all guys take the Chiefs so y' all can fade me and we can keep it moving.
Will
No, I'm, I'm, I'm with you, Delaney. I mean, they, they scored at least 34 points every game since week one. We had a ton of questions. Packers defense obviously playing incredibly well, but it seems at this point the Lions are the class of the nfc, if not the NFL. They're just rolling so much momentum. Love. This was the first time I listened to Dan Campbell is postgame presser in the locker room. And I just find myself becoming a bigger and bigger fan of him. It's like it's. You just want to play for him. I want to say Detroit is now on defense too, leading the league, maybe second in sacks behind the Broncos, but they're getting after it. Really like what they're doing there. Three turnovers this last game. Trying to think, Sam, man, I got too many notes here. I'm skip them all, but I like them. But I also think the Chiefs, despite their loss this last week, played incredibly well, incredibly well on offense. I think that was the most comfortable Patrick Mahomes has looked in some time. He had confidence with his receivers. You obviously saw with Xavier Worthy coming back, what they can do. They need to get a running game. You know, Pat has to lead them every game in Russian, but they look good. Unfortunately, I think the Lions are just too much for them. So give me the Lions this game. But I do think I'm still. I'm like an ex girlfriend with the Chiefs. I'm not going to leave them alone. I think there's still a wild card team. If not, who else in that division? I mean, they got a chance to win the division.
Jacob Goldstein
With the Chargers dropping another one coming, coming alive.
Clay Matthews
Compton Color Broncos are coming alive.
Jacob Goldstein
Coming alive in a big way.
Will
Give me Lions.
Jacob Goldstein
And the Chargers are starting to hurt themselves a little bit. They got too many injuries going on.
Clay Matthews
Way too many.
Jacob Goldstein
You brought up the defense. Aiden Hutchinson is the only player in the NFL with seven pressures and at least one sack in three separate games this year. The Jaguars as good as Patrick Mahomes looked about moving the ball down the field in that game. The Jaguars doesn't have that kind of pressure rate. They don't have an individual that can do those types of things. Look at John Morton, the OC for the Lions after week one against the packers, everyone's like, maybe the Lions are dead. This is the issue when you hire internally. Turns out all that is wrong, that you said whatever. 38 points a game, 34.1, 34.5 points per game. I love Amon Ross, Saint Brown. I love both of their running backs. Jared Goff is throwing it all over the. All over the yard. He does a great job in play action. And their play action does so well because their run game is so well. They. They have more answers and more abilities to win this game than the Chiefs do. So I'm going to take the Lions.
Clay Matthews
I'm going to go Chiefs. I think it's very obvious. I think it's. This makes no sense that the Chiefs are favored minus two and a half. It makes absolutely no sense.
Jacob Goldstein
You're right.
Clay Matthews
And every Chiefs kind of beating themselves last week, something we haven't seen. They're. What they're. They're 2 and 3 right now at home. It's. I have no clue because I'm with you guys on the Lions. I think the Lions are playing really good football. I think they're just. They're back to being the Dan Campbell Lions. Like again. It's like week one. There's really no preseason. That could have been what happened against the packers, but they're on fire right now. I think it is so obvious to go alliance here. So for those reasons, I'm taking the Chiefs. I'm taking the Chiefs minus two and a half. I do. I feel comfortable about. No, absolutely not.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, it sounds like.
Clay Matthews
But to me it's like Vegas is up to something that we all clearly don't know about. Is there a possibility or are we going to get the Chiefs? We going to get the referees? There's no way this team goes two and four at home after a bad loss like that. You're looking, you're looking at all the film, the Chris Jones stuff, everything that they did to beat themselves. I think this is a great spot for them to just come alive against the Detroit Lions. So I'm, I'm taking the Chiefs.
Delaney Walker
According to Fanduel, the reason the Chiefs.
Will
Are favored is the Lions injuries in their secondary and the Chiefs were small favorites on the look ahead. And then the Lions injury pushed the spread to two and a half. So they must have a very injured back end. Terry and Arnold.
Clay Matthews
But still, the way this Lions Offense is out.
Jacob Goldstein
You know how you fix a bad secondary? Great pass rush.
Will
If you can't score, she's got a great pass rush.
Delaney Walker
The Lions is gonna put points on the board. I don't care how riddled the defense is.
Clay Matthews
Trust me. Hey, bro, I just said all that. I'm with you. I don't know, but I'm taking the chance.
Delaney Walker
I get you. For Vegas to say the Chiefs are favored, what do they know? We don't know.
Jacob Goldstein
They also had the Chiefs favorite against the Jags.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, they should have won that game.
Jacob Goldstein
What do we know that they don't?
Delaney Walker
They should have won that game. You know, we can blame it on one player. You know, maybe.
Jacob Goldstein
Maybe we're understanding the board a little more clearly than Fanduel is right now. Friends of the show, partners of the show.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, well, we all. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
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Clay Matthews
Love them.
Jacob Goldstein
And we love the opportunity for this right here.
Delaney Walker
Thank you, Fanduel.
Jacob Goldstein
Lions.
Will
Lions.
Delaney Walker
Lions. Hey, Clump. Don't fuck this one up. Lions.
Clay Matthews
He. Clump gave you the Lions.
Delaney Walker
He. I don't know what he been doing.
Jacob Goldstein
Delaney doing.
Clay Matthews
He just clunking them. Late text from Delaney. Hey, who you liking this game?
Jacob Goldstein
Has that happened, Clump? I get one text every week from Dulaney Walker.
Will
Jonathan Taylor. Hey, he hit three times over last one.
Delaney Walker
I'm not gonna give up on this dude. He's probably.
Jacob Goldstein
There's nothing to give up on. He's making you right every single day.
Delaney Walker
That's what I'm saying. He must be the best back right now.
Clay Matthews
He's learning with two plus on him.
Jacob Goldstein
He should have.
Delaney Walker
I know someone said it, too. I should take the two. I'm like, nah, that's too much.
Jacob Goldstein
Take the two this week.
Delaney Walker
Nah, nah. Well, hold on. Let's hit one.
Jacob Goldstein
Let's hit one.
Delaney Walker
He made. No, I ain't gonna do it.
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Clay Matthews
Let's do Buffalo in Atlanta. Bills are favored in this game, minus four and a half. Falcons are the dogs at home. Over under on this game is 49 and a half.
Delaney Walker
Get back on track for the Bills.
Jacob Goldstein
It feels that way, doesn't it? But the Falcons are, like, sneaky. You don't watch a whole lot of their games, but then you see the box score and it's like, oh, shit, they're dominating this team. Oh, shit, they're losing this team. It's like they're passing Bijon Robinson. He's incredible.
Will
They're just hot and cold, man.
Delaney Walker
They're not consistent.
Will
We talked about that Minnesota Falcons game early in the season. I know J.J. mcCarthy was still playing, perhaps injured, whatever it may be, but it's like, like.
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Clay Matthews
Egg against the Panthers.
Will
100%. But like Bijan, you know, one of the best running backs in the league. Pitts, Drake, London, Jake Matthews at left tackle. You know what I'm saying? Like, they just got dogs up and down the board. And listen, the Matthews Group techs, they got on me that game. So I just want to say, you know, Jake, I love you, but I'm going with the Bills. You know what I'm saying I'm going with the Bills. They're just too hot. They're too up and down. I know they're down in Atlanta. But listen, if we want to talk about the Bills and their loss, I think that's less about the Bills. I think it's more about New England, which can be a topic association. But the two areas of concern for the Bills, I would say, are their defense, which is below average run defense. And then if we really want to look strength of schedule. Let's look at Week one. They beat, you know, the world beaters, the Ravens, but everybody's been scoring on the Ravens. They beat a bad jets team, which obviously, like you said, what isn't that bad maybe. Are they. Are they not.
Jacob Goldstein
They looked good against the Steelers.
Ryan Seacrest (advertiser)
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Jacob Goldstein
They are that bad.
Clay Matthews
They did weirdly look good against Steelers.
Will
But then they have for at least two to three quarters have, you know, a tight game versus the Dolphins and the Saints. And then they play a team, a divisional game that's on the. On the rise and they end up giving that one away. I know they turn the ball over three times. So all I'm just putting. There's always doubt that creeps in when there's a loss or things don't go your way. I still think if the Lions are the class of the nfc, then Buffalo is the class of the afc. All I'm putting it out there is just saying, like, watch out. But I like this get back on track game.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, the defense is the biggest concern for the Bills, especially with B John Robinson. I think he recorded 28 missed tackles. He's got the fifth most in the NFL. Like, he's.
Clay Matthews
Bro, he's good, man.
Will
He's good.
Clay Matthews
Bills Milano, get this boy to the ground.
Jacob Goldstein
When he was on the show during our spring tour last year.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Two years ago, whatever. He was talking about how when he has the ball in his hands, the game like slows down for him. And then you watch the film and you're like, oh, he's telling the truth. Everything just seems way slower for him than anybody else. But we were on the phone with Josh Allen yesterday and we gave him a hypothetical, said, hey, this team from Northeast is going down the south and they happen to be favored by a four and a half away. Like, would you take that team? He thought I was talking about Michigan, usc. I wasn't. He didn't know that I'm taking the Bills.
Clay Matthews
He said hypothetically. Sure.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. They didn't even give it down.
Clay Matthews
It wasn't absolutely.
Will
Did Josh Bet on the game too.
Jacob Goldstein
No, he didn't bet on the game. That's illegal.
Will
Oh, sorry.
Jacob Goldstein
That's illegal.
Will
Okay.
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Jacob Goldstein
That's a rainy MVP you're talking about there. A man holds himself to a high standard. Farmer.
Clay Matthews
I like the Bills too. What scares me in this is they're going to win by four points. They're going to win by three points.
Jacob Goldstein
I know.
Will
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Like Bills are going to win this game.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, they are.
Clay Matthews
But yeah, I'm taking the Bills.
Jacob Goldstein
There's so many ways to suffocate your own offense. Like James Cook, he's like three in the NFL yards after contact. Like he's really. Well, you're.
Clay Matthews
You're right. But again Atlanta's defense, even though they let Panthers hang 30 on them, one of the best pass defenses in the league.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, well, the Bill's offensive. Bill's offensive line is. They have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL, 22.3%. Like the Bills offensive line is playing great.
Delaney Walker
Really well.
Jacob Goldstein
Like Dion Dawkins Brown on the other side. Like they are protecting Josh a lot of the times and I think like very happy for the Patriots. Drake May had a great game against underwhelming defense. But like the Bills, those three turnovers giving the ball away that many times, like you're going to put yourself in precarious situations all.
Delaney Walker
I mean I think the Patriots really showed out just because they got they star receiver back. He made a lot of key plays. If it wasn't for him, we would have been seeing the same old Patriots. Obviously that sparked the Patriots and then Mike Vrabel is like the guy who can beat the Bills. Like every time we play the Bills we beat them when we have.
Clay Matthews
Not every time, but yeah.
Delaney Walker
Okay.
Clay Matthews
There's always a form. There's. There's always the formula that. That's there. U execute the. The team, the team goals. What are the team keys? Defense, offense, all that stuff. Like brave is Brave is on point. They're rolling right now. It's a very dangerous dude.
Delaney Walker
They getting going. It took them a long time. It took them a while but now they starting to go a couple games. So look, I don't think the Falcons have. I don't think the Falcons have a Mike Brable. So I this game could be close but I feel like the Bills is going to put some points out on the board. They where they score 30 a game they ranked third and scoring.
Clay Matthews
You like the Falcons though, right?
Delaney Walker
No, I think that. I just think that the Bills is gonna show up and show out.
Clay Matthews
Yeah. So we're all in the Bills.
Will
All right. So the Falcons are gonna win.
Jacob Goldstein
I hate that.
Clay Matthews
I do, too. But hey, how do you feel? You got your. One of your favorite quarterbacks. Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears going out to Washington this week.
Delaney Walker
Wait, who's starting quarterback for the Commanders? Commanders.
Clay Matthews
Jaden.
Delaney Walker
Oh, he. He back.
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Clay Matthews
Had a great game last week.
Jacob Goldstein
He played great last week.
Clay Matthews
Commanders are favorites.
Delaney Walker
Commanders.
Clay Matthews
Commanders are favorites. Four and a half over under on this game. 49 and a half. What's Delaney Walker scene in this game with Caleb Williams? Ben Johnson, are you back?
Will
Are you back on the Caleb Williams?
Jacob Goldstein
Oh, yeah, you were.
Clay Matthews
He never got off.
Will
You were painting your nails with him.
Delaney Walker
I told y' all I wasn't messing with my dog for a while. Wow.
Will
But I'm still not messing with cuz.
Delaney Walker
Oh, this week they got the Commanders B. Like in dc. Stop, dude.
Jacob Goldstein
You're making me second guess all my.
Delaney Walker
Stop playing with me, y'. All. They got the commanders in D.C. oh, come on.
Will
Was Jay.
Delaney Walker
They got a strong pass game. They got a well balanced run game. And even with they boy going out, my dog stepped in there. McNichols and went nuts for the Commanders. Like, come on. I'm not going against Marcus McNichols. None of those boys dog take. Give me the Commanders right now.
Will
Just for the audience and me. Is McNichols. Is that Mariota?
Delaney Walker
Huh?
Clay Matthews
No, I thought he was going to say Mario too. My dog, Jeremy McNichols is. He has. Each time he gets an opportunity, he goes in.
Delaney Walker
Get it.
Clay Matthews
Somebody help me out with. Is it the last name of the starting running.
Jacob Goldstein
Crosby Merritt.
Clay Matthews
Bill Crosby Merritt.
Delaney Walker
CROs Merritt.
Clay Matthews
He had a coming out party against the Chargers. They look good, man. They look good against LA.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
That's who you thought McNichols was.
Delaney Walker
No, I did not. McNichols is number 26, son. What are you talking about?
Will
Well, I didn't know who he was, so. That's my dog.
Delaney Walker
Like, he stayed with me when he was here.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, Yeah, I do. I like Commanders too. Good run defense.
Delaney Walker
Well, balance.
Clay Matthews
This is a much better defense than they were last year. Well balanced offense. Jayden Daniels kind of had a coming out party or just showing that he's getting back on track, making that progress. Coming off. Coming off of last year, he looked healthy. Healthy. But yeah, I like the Commanders here. You're in dc, baby.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, you're in DC And I'll tell you exactly how this game's gonna go. The first drive for the for the Bears are going to go down and they're going to score.
Clay Matthews
Absolutely.
Will
That's going to happen.
Jacob Goldstein
Oh are the Bears really that and commanders might go put up three after that. Then it's going to be stalled after stall out after stall out because the commanders what they do great which is Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams? Yeah. Caleb Williams is like Achilles heel. Deal is they disguise coverage 20% of the time on drop back situations. And that's been like the big knock on Caleb is like when the it's not a clean look for him. Can he dissect defenses? The commanders do that the third most in the NFL disguising defenses. I think the first drive is going to be exactly. We've always seen from the Bears and then after that it's commanders. It's Jaden Daniels, you know, fastest player to a thousand yards rushing in NFL history. Did it in 20 games. Like he continues that streak of just getting more rushing yards, extending plays. I think it's Terry McCollum back. McLaurin questionable. Don't know yet. Doesn't matter. We still got Debo.
Delaney Walker
Let me Debo. Yeah. Oh my God.
Will
I mean the catch didn't really matter at the end but like he over 100 yards receiving last week.
Jacob Goldstein
But I think I'm on some special teams too.
Will
Daniel's hurt when he played the packers because that was my last memory of him. Just kind of nothing. I know he got hurt but like, like watching him yesterday versus you know, a couple weeks ago he didn't look like he was rookie year Jaden. But then watching him yesterday just move around the pocket letting his receivers become uncovered like it changed my thought process of him who I was going to go for in this game. And if he plays like that, which I don't see why not if he's healthy. He had a knee brace on. But yeah, still like I like the commanders.
Clay Matthews
Let's not forget too. This was a Hail Mary game last year. Oh, there's somebody celebrating a little too much. The game came down the last play of the game, bro. About that.
Will
The Bears were winning that game too.
Clay Matthews
The Bears were winning that game. The Bears were. They were the Bears. The same kind of team. We're thinking about coming in here. You got Ben Johnson's the head coach now. Makes a little bit of a difference. But yeah. And that was also at Washington.
Delaney Walker
So didn't they score on that play?
Clay Matthews
Yeah, Washington did. To win the game. Yeah. And it was his guy catch the ball.
Jacob Goldstein
That's so fun. Totally forgot about that. That's a good pull. I'll take command.
Clay Matthews
Still riding Commanders. But just to put this isn't going to be some some wall. You know this that's in an easy game.
Jacob Goldstein
That's a great note to fall back on next week. If the Bears win, you can be like, but I did say this.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, I told us. Yeah, put it out there. It is a little risky.
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Massachusetts Classic Game of the Week Every Sunday's got games, but only one fits just right. Delaney this is the true Classic Game of the week. It's a San Francisco 40 49ers. Is it Mac Jones.
Will
It's Matt, baby. I hope it's Mac.
Clay Matthews
Mac Jones in Tampa Bay.
Delaney Walker
Give me Mac.
Clay Matthews
Buccaneers only favored by three over under on this game. 47 and a half.
Will
Hold on, bro. Over. Over. MVP. Baker Mayfield. You want Mac Jones.
Delaney Walker
Man, that's my dog.
Will
You went golfing with him once.
Clay Matthews
My guy.
Will
He's your dog.
Jacob Goldstein
Three game winning drives. Did you not see my last second field goal in Seattle?
Delaney Walker
Did you see my dog out there dicing him up, Getting hit.
Will
Throwing up.
Delaney Walker
Up.
Jacob Goldstein
He was dry.
Clay Matthews
Heav dry.
Will
Getting a massage on the sideline. Checking cats.
Clay Matthews
Checking cats.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. You see me like no to get my dog.
Jacob Goldstein
That CMC.31 touches in that game.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Will
Damn.
Jacob Goldstein
Outmanned, outgunned, bro.
Will
What a great game by the 49ers. Jones like CMC staying in front of the sticks. Like, man, the ran the whole time. I'm just thinking Rams coming back, Rams coming back. And the 49ers did just enough off to get that win.
Jacob Goldstein
That punch out at the end of.
Clay Matthews
The game.
Delaney Walker
Like crazy.
Will
I just wish that Michigan cat would just start holding on to the ball a little bit more catching.
Jacob Goldstein
It'll be all right.
Clay Matthews
We got drops.
Jacob Goldstein
Drops are plagued all over Michigan right now. We got drops everywhere.
Will
Drop this game this weekend, too.
Clay Matthews
Oh, you sound pretty confident.
Will
No, I don't know what you mean.
Jacob Goldstein
It's your team. You want to make a bet I.
Will
Ain'T shaving my head. Yeah, at the Coliseum.
Jacob Goldstein
USC's favorite two and a half. Coliseum sold out.
Clay Matthews
You're welcome. Yeah.
Will
92,000.
Jacob Goldstein
92,000. Sold out. About 72 thousands. Amazing blue.
Clay Matthews
Of course, it's going since Lincoln rallies got there. USC 18 and two at home. They've been getting us five and one.
Will
At the bye weeks. This is what this is. This is his Caleb Williams Heisman game right here against the Wolverines. You got to make it. Y' all gotta make a bet.
Clay Matthews
Gotta make a bet.
Will
Make a bet.
Clay Matthews
There we go. We got give you.
Delaney Walker
If I went to this, if I went to the S, I would have.
Jacob Goldstein
On a show right now.
Delaney Walker
That's easy, man.
Jacob Goldstein
I'm not good on the fly. You want to do a money.
Will
I came back to the show, all right? I need that cash. You want to do a money bet.
Jacob Goldstein
Or you want to do just a fun bet?
Will
Throw something out there.
Delaney Walker
No, don't let him throw nothing.
Will
No, I'm not shaving my head.
Jacob Goldstein
I already got one scout looking for another one.
Delaney Walker
Don't let him tell. Don't let him tell you what.
Clay Matthews
It's kind of nice no, brother.
Will
N. Hey, you know what's nice? When New York and LA call and say we need you for an appearance, and I go, yes, ma', am. I'll be there.
Jacob Goldstein
And I know why they won't call you without.
Will
Yeah, they'll still call you, brother.
Delaney Walker
Didn't they put a ball cap on?
Clay Matthews
Just a bald head.
Will
OBJ had the little. You know what I'm saying? Had the little dye in the front. Troy Palomalu had the black curly hair. It's the mountain anonymous.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, he did.
Will
That's soft.
Delaney Walker
That sucks.
Clay Matthews
That's.
Will
That's guacing the hair.
Jacob Goldstein
Just dye your hair.
Delaney Walker
No, no, no. How big is your front. Your gr. Your front yard?
Will
I. I mean, it's big.
Jacob Goldstein
He's got a lot of land like you.
Will
Oh.
Clay Matthews
So what you think? What you thinking?
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah.
Delaney Walker
If you lose and you got a nice yard, too, one of y' all gotta spray either the Michigan logo on your front yard or the USC logo on your front yard.
Will
But that means I gotta go. Can we talk? Can we talk about this?
Jacob Goldstein
People gonna see that I never come before.
Will
Who he's doing money.
Delaney Walker
His.
Will
I don't know, bro. You're the one this fan. Duel money, all right? I'm just hanging on with my. My pension and retirement.
Jacob Goldstein
Get the out of here.
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Will
What? What? What's wrong?
Delaney Walker
A Speedo next stream. That's wrong.
Will
Tighten up, brother.
Delaney Walker
That's.
Will
Wow.
Jacob Goldstein
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Will
Think is a. Is a proper bet. All right, let's just do a gentleman bet. Whatever you want that to be talking about. Well, I don't know.
Clay Matthews
Here, I'll throw something out there. 50 grand.
Delaney Walker
That's a gentleman mat.
Will
No, brother, I like sc. But, like, I ain't throwing 50 on there. That's fine.
Jacob Goldstein
No, 10,000.
Will
That's crazy. Is that two peanuts for you?
Jacob Goldstein
Well, I'm just thinking we got to make this fun for the viewer.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
That's why I need something. I need something that, like 10,000 of you is not nothing. I need something that you care about.
Will
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Delaney Walker
The hairstyle say he get the coach one year, he get to coach one game.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, Let me think about it.
Will
Let's think about it.
Jacob Goldstein
Let me think.
Will
Let's think about it. Okay.
Jacob Goldstein
Because I'm down to do whatever you want to do.
Will
All right, guys, so I'm not a. You know, I'm not a big gambler.
Clay Matthews
Oh, sorry.
Will
Fanduel.
Clay Matthews
Oh, we were talking about. We were in the middle of talking about 49ers bucks. Yeah, bucks. Because it went to receiver or dropping balls or something like that.
Delaney Walker
I don't know where it went.
Clay Matthews
We were talking Mac Jones, the game plan that Shannon had.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah, yeah. Incredible gameplay.
Clay Matthews
Incredible.
Jacob Goldstein
Really neutralized that pass rush.
Will
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Did an amazing job.
Will
He did do a good job.
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah. Bourne, is it Bourne, the receiver. Kendrick Bourne. Over 100 yards receiving. He's on the Patriots CMC.
Will
No, he's not. No, no. He was on the Patriots.
Clay Matthews
Coach, listen, I know that the Niners are riding high right now. They should be. It's a good ball club. But this is. This is the Tampa Bay.
Will
This is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Tampa Baker Mayfield. Mayfield calling his shot, talking to the fan up in the stands. And he said, I told you. As he runs back in. Yeah, well, I love Tampa Baker. And that's why they're going to get this done.
Jacob Goldstein
Was pulling his pants up a few times.
Delaney Walker
No, but he got up.
Will
Hanging out.
Delaney Walker
Yeah, I mean, he was taking a beat.
Jacob Goldstein
Body ball.
Delaney Walker
He was taking a beat still. They were still tossing it out there.
Jacob Goldstein
No doubt. I know you played.
Clay Matthews
He's played awesome. They played awesome.
Delaney Walker
I'm not going. I'm going.
Clay Matthews
But if you. If you're not talking about the Lions, you're talking about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the nfc.
Delaney Walker
I'm not.
Will
Who you talking about? Here we go.
Jacob Goldstein
Top five.
Will
Top five nfc.
Jacob Goldstein
Talking about the Bears.
Delaney Walker
The Bears.
Jacob Goldstein
What about Green Bay? Green Bay? Kind of.
Clay Matthews
Oh, Green Bay.
Will
Green Bay.
Delaney Walker
Green Bay. Is it when they play at home.
Jacob Goldstein
As your prison gambler said.
Delaney Walker
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Give me Baker Mayfield.
Will
Baker Mayfield, Buccaneers.
Clay Matthews
And you got the Niners.
Delaney Walker
Of course I got them.
Clay Matthews
Just making sure, just for the viewers.
Jacob Goldstein
Right here, we're gonna put a good spot. Let's get in a great spot. I bet the boys parlay anytime touchdowns this week. I got J.K. dobbins.
Clay Matthews
You, Daniel and old.
Will
Yeah, I got. Give me George Pickett six weeks ago, but I got you.
Jacob Goldstein
You took the Panthers.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, yeah, I did say Panthers are going to shut them out.
Jacob Goldstein
I know. I'm just.
Clay Matthews
Give me George Pickens.
Will
Speaking of the packers, give me Josh Jacobs vs. Cincinnati. The Joe Flacco led Cincinnati Bengals. Is he starting this week?
Jacob Goldstein
What? Delaney's just over here dancing to something in his head right now.
Will
Delaney knows who's your pick. Delaney, guaranteed.
Clay Matthews
Taylor, let's go. I do have a question.
Delaney Walker
Oh.
Will
Oh, boy.
Jacob Goldstein
We need to go back and see when this guy's gone off and see how the picks go.
Delaney Walker
Who's talking he with that?
Clay Matthews
Why do you pick we'll just. We'll take a second, all right?
Delaney Walker
Yeah, let's take a second.
Clay Matthews
Why do you pick Jonathan Taylor every week?
Delaney Walker
I mean, when I used to pick the Great White Hope, y' all was on that, too. But it hit, right?
Will
Sure.
Clay Matthews
I'm just asking you.
Will
Just playing the odds.
Clay Matthews
I'm just looking.
Delaney Walker
I'm gonna ride my dog until he let me down, Right? That's what I do. His name is Jonathan Taylor.
Will
He did a couple, but he let you down, too.
Delaney Walker
We're gonna say his name. No, he did.
Clay Matthews
Yeah, he did.
Will
The other cat who got the holding, bad coaching.
Jacob Goldstein
His name is Robert Paulson. What movie is that from, Will?
Delaney Walker
He don't know Robert Paulson. Yeah, man.
Jacob Goldstein
You know, what's the first rule?
Clay Matthews
Oh, Fight Club.
Delaney Walker
There you go.
Clay Matthews
I've seen that movie.
Jacob Goldstein
Have you?
Clay Matthews
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
And Animal House.
Clay Matthews
Oh, yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Come on. Yeah.
Will
Where'd they shoot Animal House at that?
Jacob Goldstein
Huh?
Will
Where they shoot Animal House? There you go.
Jacob Goldstein
Come on.
Delaney Walker
Yeah. Jonathan Taylor.
Clay Matthews
Jonathan Taylor. J.K. dobbins. George Pickens.
Will
Josh Jacobs.
Jacob Goldstein
Hell of a show.
Clay Matthews
That's your bet.
Jacob Goldstein
The boys figure out what we're gonna do for this bet.
Delaney Walker
I'm gonna switch it up next week.
Will
Hey, dude, how do we do? Last week on the bet, you just.
Jacob Goldstein
Said you're gonna ride him.
Delaney Walker
He got a bye week.
Jacob Goldstein
Jonathan Taylor hit, and then Marty Hampton did not score. And Amon Ra did not score. Damn.
Will
Amon Ra had eight receptions for eight yards.
Delaney Walker
So if they follow the direction, I'm gonna sell a book on how to.
Will
Make picks, how to make money.
Clay Matthews
Just take the favorite to score.
Jacob Goldstein
Touchdown.
Clay Matthews
12 and 18.
Delaney Walker
That again, is clump.
Jacob Goldstein
Hell of a show.
Clay Matthews
Hell of a show. Big clumps, Tiny kisses.
Jacob Goldstein
Stream this Thursday. Yes, streaming this Thursday. Clay Matthews will have a shaved head on Monday.
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This is an I Heart podcast.
Date: October 9, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Taylor Lewan, Clay Matthews, Delaney Walker, Jacob Goldstein
This episode of "Bussin' With The Boys" dives into the NFL Week 5 slate, covering betting insights, game previews, tough coaching decisions in youth football, and spirited debates on breakout teams and players. The crew, which features former NFL players, brings firsthand knowledge, humor, and honesty as they analyze match-ups, highlight upsets, and offer bold predictions against the betting lines. Listeners also get a peek into Will Compton’s passionate philosophy as a youth football coach.
(07:09 - 17:32)
“Bro, it means so much to them and it meant something to me. I was pissed that we lost, but I started getting emotional and man, we just came up short. But we'll be back next year.” (08:01)
"Nowadays, this new generation, they like my kid. I don't care how sorry my kid is, he need to be in the game. You know what I mean? Even though you're going to cost us a championship." (12:20)
(18:08 - 20:13)
(23:15 - 26:46)
(27:04 - 31:37)
(31:56 - 37:08)
(40:37 - 45:42)
(45:47 - 50:20)
(52:19 - 58:57)
(59:02 - 61:46)
Will on youth sports:
"If you want to go out there and participate and have a good time and we use this as a play time, then that's great. If we're out there to try and win and maybe play time's not going to be fair ... that's the split in the road." (16:40)
On Vegas odds:
"It makes absolutely no sense that the Chiefs are favored minus two and a half. For those reasons, I’m taking the Chiefs." – Clay (35:22)
On the Lions’ rise:
"They scored at least 34 points every game since week one… the Lions are the class of the NFC, if not the NFL." – Will (32:56)
On the Jets' futility:
"The 2025 Jets are the first team since 1950 to start 05 and have zero takeaway in each of their five games." – Jacob (20:41)
On Bears vs. Commanders:
"The Commanders disguise coverage 20% of the time... that's been the big knock on Caleb is like, when it's not a clean look for him, can he dissect defenses?” – Jacob (48:06)
| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|------------------| | Youth flag football coaching | 07:09 – 17:32 | | Jets' first win discussion | 18:08 – 20:13 | | Cowboys vs Panthers debate | 23:15 – 26:46 | | Seahawks vs Jaguars | 27:04 – 31:37 | | Lions vs Chiefs | 31:56 – 37:08 | | Bills vs Falcons | 40:37 – 45:42 | | Bears vs Commanders (Jayden vs Caleb) | 45:47 – 50:20 | | 49ers vs Buccaneers | 52:19 – 58:57 | | Parlay touchdown picks & end banter | 59:02 – 61:46 |
True to Bussin' With The Boys tradition, the episode is packed with irreverence, banter, and real locker room camaraderie. Decisions are dissected football-head style—stat-driven but never stuffy—peppered with one-liners and friendly trash talk. The panel isn't afraid to call each other's hot takes or celebrate (and clown) their betting picks in equal measure.
Summary by: Bussin’ With The Boys Podcast Summarizer Team
For: Listeners looking for the playbook and the vibes.