Will Compton Teases Scottzilla’s First Steps & The Boys Discuss Using The Women’s Restroom | For The Dads

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bussin' With The Boys

Episode: Will Compton Teases Scottzilla’s First Steps & The Boys Discuss Using The Women’s Restroom | For The Dads
Date: October 15, 2025
Hosts: Will Compton, Sherm, Derek

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Overview of the Episode

This episode of "Bussin' With The Boys: For The Dads" is a classic hangout with hosts Will Compton and Sherm as they riff on fatherhood, share listener shoutouts, tackle the conundrum of using public restrooms as dads with daughters, and dig deep into the lessons of attitude and effort in both parenting and life. It's a supportive, humorous, and honest conversation aimed at dads, parents, and anyone seeking practical advice with a dose of camaraderie and humility.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Shoutout & Community Connection

[03:27–05:02]

• The episode begins with Sherm reading a heartfelt shoutout from Jay Paul, who wrote in about her husband John—a dedicated listener and first-time dad whose birthday is coming up.
• The boys give John a warm on-air birthday shoutout and praise him for fostering a supportive dad community.
  • “Happy birthday, bro… Thank you for supporting the pod. Thank you for being a big fan. Thank you for getting your wife on board and what a sweetheart your wife is.” — Will [03:27]
  • The guys riff on the idea of capturing John’s reaction to the shoutout for future episodes, showing appreciation for community engagement and the impact their podcast has on families.

2. The Dad Dilemma: Taking Daughters to Public Restrooms

[05:06–09:37]

• Sherm introduces a video clip featuring a “girl dad” discussing the universal challenge dads face: when out in public and your young daughter needs to use the restroom.
• The featured “girl dad” offers practical advice:
  • Always politely ask a woman nearby for help if you need to take your daughter into the women’s restroom.
  • Stand at the door, explain the situation, and block the entry if necessary.
  • The key: Be polite and respectful; most women are understanding and want to help.
  • “If you’re polite and respectful, from one girl dad to another… just trying to help you guys out.” — Girl Dad [06:29]
  • He emphasizes safety, cleanliness, and modeling respectful behavior for kids.
• Will and Sherm break down their own approaches:
  • Will: “It’s more of like, hey, she’s gotta go to the bathroom. I gotta go potty, too. She just goes with me. Just go in a stall, get her all hooked up.” [08:17]
  • Sherm notes the confusion of gendered restrooms at that age and the normalization of kids with parents in public restrooms.
• They recognize how common this scenario is for dads and the anxiety or confusion that comes with it, providing real-world solutions for fellow fathers.

3. The Weekly Lesson: Attitude & Effort

[09:46–16:59]

• Will delivers a moving monologue about the two things you can always control: attitude and effort (a mantra from his college strength coach, James Dobson).
• Key messages include:
  • “Attitude sets your emotional temperature of your home. If you walk through the door frustrated, distracted, or short tempered, it is felt in the home without any words being said.” — Will [11:00]
  • Your mood as a parent is contagious; being intentional about your emotional state shapes the home environment.
  • Effort is not about perfection, but about presence and intention—showing up and engaging with your family even when tired or stressed.
  • “Effort doesn’t mean perfection. It means presence… your kids won’t remember a word you say. They will understand what you model to them before you say anything.” — Will [15:32]
  • Will relates these concepts back to lessons learned on the football field, drawing a parallel between being a good teammate and being present and effective at home.
  • Both hosts stress that these lessons cross over from sports/work life into family life: leadership, discipline, holding up responsibilities, and improving performance as a dad or partner.

4. The Power of Modeling Good Habits & Self-Improvement

[16:59–23:45]

• The boys dig into the challenge of applying hard-won professional lessons at home.
  • Sherm: “Any organized team… anything where like a group of people are coming together for a common goal… you have to hold up your responsibilities. If you don’t, it’s going to cause others to misfire and misstep.” [18:27]
  • Will: “Every philosophy… that motivates me or keeps me disciplined—am I doing those same things at home in the role that I have at home?” [19:05]
• Derek and Sherm jump in to affirm Will’s leadership and fairness, noting that the same intentionality he brings to work inspires them to do their best and that it motivates employees (and by extension, families) to “fight for that, too.” [23:08]
• They conclude that how you show up every day, even in small ways, shapes your legacy at work and at home.

5. Embracing Mistakes, Moving Forward & Small Victories

[23:45–34:08]

• Will emphasizes listening to and learning from mentors and great people throughout life, being “a sponge” even when it wasn’t the cool thing to do.
• Sherm connects with Will’s story about being undrafted in the NFL and not letting setbacks or others’ doubt define his attitude or trajectory.
  • “You will mess up, you will not be perfect. But it’s just being able to learn from that loss… let’s move forward and have a good attitude to attack whatever this next thing is.” — Sherm [31:21]
• Will and Sherm talk about “goldfish memory” (short-term memory)—the importance of letting go of setbacks in parenting and starting fresh each day.
• Sherm shares a deeply personal story about facing depression, not leaving bed for two weeks, and the transformative power of “small wins,” like just showering and getting dressed to start the turnaround.
  • “When you wake up, shower and put a nice outfit on… you get that small victory, whatever that is, and you can change it, dude.” — Sherm [32:06]
• The episode ends with Will joking about his daughter making the bed better than him and praising her effort, reminding dads to notice and affirm these small moments of growth.
  • “Yo, I love your effort. Love your effort, kid.” — Will [34:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On setting the home’s emotional tone:
  • “Your attitude sets your emotional temperature of your home.” — Will [11:00]
• On modeling effort for kids:
  • “It’s not about how hard you work for your family. It’s about how intentionally you show up with them.” — Will [13:52]
• On letting go of failures:
  • “Goldfish memory. I think that’s important… with the attitude and effort is like you will mess up… [but] just being able to learn from that loss. Hey, let’s move forward.” — Sherm [31:02]
• On the struggle of being overlooked and powering through:
  • “When I didn’t get invited to the combine, that was a hard moment… but no matter what, the sun is going to rise tomorrow. And you gotta put your feet on the ground and it’s like, what attitude and effort are you going to have about the day?” — Will [29:52]
• On the powerful impact of small victories:
  • “When you wake up, shower and put a nice outfit on… you get that small victory, whatever that is, and you can change it, dude.” — Sherm [32:06]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Listener shoutout & John’s birthday: 03:27–05:02
• Public restroom dilemma & advice for dads: 05:06–09:37
• The lesson of the week – Attitude & effort: 09:46–16:59
• Sports lessons applied to fatherhood: 16:59–23:45
• Failure, growth, and embracing mistakes: 23:45–34:08

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode is personal, humorous, and grounded in vulnerability. The hosts aren’t afraid to make fun of themselves, admit mistakes, or dig into real challenges. At its core, the message is universal: the best thing you can give your family isn’t perfection—it’s presence, attitude, and effort. The conversation is infused with practical wisdom, supportive banter, and lived experience—making it valuable for anyone navigating the journey of parenthood or self-improvement.

Transcript

[Will]

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[Sherm]

I I have a fun one that or go ahead Derek I was just gonna say there was the comment that I had shown you if you want to read that while the lesson is pulled up. Yes I just don't want you to forget it is a shout out for something that is is coming up. Nothing crazy but just wanted to throw that out there. The J. Paul Instagram I believe so is a birthday in that one and that's just the only reason I asked it. Yes okay this comes from Jay Paul on Instagram. Hey Will and Sherman, I'm reaching out to crack a cold one for my husband. He is a huge fan of for the dad's podcast and he got me hooked on it as well since we road trip a lot and love to listen to you guys along with our nine month old son. My husband John has called in before and he Also recently sent you guys a letter with a few gifts inside which I believe is the one that we got with the patches. And John, if that was you, thank you so much for your letter. Sent a letter inside to show his appreciation for the community that you all have built for dads. It truly is something special. My husband John's birthday is coming up on October 18th and I know it would mean the world to him to be featured on your podcast or even just a shout out. John is a first time dad and I couldn't be more thankful for such a hands on partner and role model for our son to have. I already ordered a for the dad's pen and pendant for him for his birthday. Shout out for our son to have or sorry for his birthday so he can proudly hang it up in his man cave AKA our garage. But I know it would be so special for him if you wouldn't mind shouting him out. Thanks for your time and all that you do for the dads, John.

[Will]

Happy birthday bro.

[Sherm]

Happy birthday.

[Will]

Happy birthday. Thank you for supporting the pod. Thank you for being a big fan. Thank you for getting your wife on board and what a sweetheart your wife is. Yeah.

[Sherm]

What MT6 sicko.

[Will]

Yeah, forgetting the. You know, he's sitting there embarrassed right now.

[Sherm]

Honey, why'd you.

[Will]

Come on, babe.

[Sherm]

What are you doing? John, we love you, dude. And honestly, if that was John's letter that I'm thinking of with the patches in it. Wrote such a heartfelt letter. I still have the envelope on my desk because I want to write back. So I do have your return address if that's you, John. Yeah, I can't wait to send you a letter back.

[Will]

If mom and wife. You could just take out the phone right now and give us his reaction. We could put at the end of next week's episode.

[Sherm]

We could put it at the end of next week's episode. Yeah, we could play it right now. And then we just got done watching that video of John's reaction.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Sherm]

How would she have known? Yeah, next week drop and she's gonna see it and be excited. So the right now thing only plays. Yes, I've been. Sorry I was saying like we clipped us referencing that and then played it in the credits of that future. Oh yeah, yeah.

[Will]

You are meta brain meta Clip that because I'm thinking we could let her know. Yo, we're covering this moment on the pod. They can be tuned into the pod because they.

[Sherm]

This pod will come out on the 15th. His birthday is on the 18th so it's gonna work. Out kind of perfect.

[Will]

Meta brain.

[Sherm]

Clip that.

[Will]

Meta brain pt.

[Sherm]

6 clip that.

[Will]

You got a quote, topic or lesson, my friend?

[Sherm]

Yeah, I have a really quick one. This one actually accompanies a video and we can make this into a clip. It's like, very cool video. Basically this dad breaking down being a dad out in the wild with your.

[Will]

Girl.

[Sherm]

Your daughter who needs to go to the bathroom. And basically, how to. How to. How do us as men go about our daughter needing to go to the bathroom in the wild? Do they go to the men's room? Do they go to the women's room? This guy breaks it down beautifully.

[Girl Dad]

So as a girl dad, I'd like to answer this one because I've been there a thousand times myself before now, over the years, when my daughter was little, before she was too young to use the restroom herself, anytime we were out in a public setting and my daughter needed to use the restroom, the I would always take her to the women's restroom. Now, in doing so, I also understood that not every woman wants to open up the women's restroom to find a big old scary man like myself staring back at them. So here's a couple things I did to make sure that that didn't happen and also that my daughter got to use the restroom. So what I would do, if possible, is I would try and find a woman near the women's restroom and politely say, excuse me, my little daughter needs to use the restroom. I need to go in with her. Would you be kind enough to watch the door so another woman doesn't open up the door to find me and get scared or nervous or uncomfortable? I never, never, in the thousands of times I did that, never had a woman say no to that request. It was always met with, oh, yes, of course, absolutely no problem. Yes, I'd be happy to watch the door for you and your daughter to go in. Always got met with a yes. I always asked politely. Never had a problem with it. If there were no women around that I could ask. What I do is I take my daughter in, I prop the door open with my foot, and while she was using the restroom, I'd stand in the doorway blocking so that nobody could see in. But also, at the same time, if a woman happened to approach the restroom, I'd say, I'm so sorry, I've got my little daughter in here. Could you give us just a moment? Once again, always greeted with a yes. No problem. Happy to do that. Thank you for letting me know. I never got told no to these requests because. And this Is just my opinion, but I'm guessing every single woman out there understood that I was just trying to be a good dad, getting my daughter in to use the restroom that she needed. And I wanted her to use the women's restroom because it is safer and cleaner. Gentlemen, if you were out and you have young daughters, take them into the women's restroom. We all know it's cleaner. And you're probably never going to find a woman that has a problem with you being in there. If you do one of the things that I told you and if you're polite and respectful from one girl dad to another. Just trying to help you guys out. I hope this might help somebody. Anyways, you guys let me know what you think about this in the comment section. Like, and share this video. I'd appreciate it. Dedicated after that.

[Will]

Oh, the daughter.

[Sherm]

Oh, I think he said like five. Like four or five.

[Will]

This rude. Just goes in the men's room with me. Yeah. I take her in a stall, which.

[Sherm]

That'S another option that he talks about.

[Will]

I keep them eyes down.

[Sherm]

Yeah, yeah.

[Will]

I was kidding. She's three.

[Sherm]

Don't talk to nobody.

[Will]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sherm]

We're doing our business.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Sherm]

Which I did. I wanted to ask you, like, what your approach was, too.

[Will]

It's. Yeah, it's more of like, hey, she's got to go to the bathroom. I got to go potty, too. She just goes with me. Just go in a stall, get her all hooked up.

[Sherm]

I feel like she's young enough too, where she literally does not know the difference, I'm assuming.

[Will]

Well, she'll know that, you know, why can't you go in. In the mommy's restroom that has a boy. Yeah, yeah, that's a boy. You got boys restrooms. You got girls restrooms. And you. That. I can only go in this one, so you got to come with that.

[Sherm]

That's it. That's just how it goes.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Sherm]

But a question that I've asked myself plenty of times. I was like, what do you do in that situation? That's. That's interesting.

[Will]

It's like a initial thought, I guess, when it first happens, but then you just don't really. Once it happens the first time, you don't really think about it because you're thinking like, you know, it's your. It's your little one. Any. Like, we haven't been in, like, I guess where if we're at, like, a. A game or something like that, and it's very public and crowded. We've been in a situation like that so every bathroom we've kind of went into, it's, you know, whether adults are in there or whatever it is like you. You know how you're used to seeing kiddos come in with their parents?

[Sherm]

Oh, for sure.

[Will]

So just go in, hit the stall, rip it, rip it. But you need. You need to go pooper, pee, pee.

[Sherm]

Pee or poo poo. Yeah, but. Yeah, that was. That was my lesson of the week.

[Will]

Love that. Because a lot of young dads are that maybe think about they don't have their kid yet. They could be wondering that. That could be a question on their mind.

[Sherm]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will]

Love that. Mine is. So we had the one last week with the anchors and sales. And I think one thing that just people, parents, whatever, in general, there's always a lot of pressures in the world. And something that I learned, I was very grateful to learn that I felt like stuck with me when I was in college, like, are you good, bro?

[Sherm]

My contact came out.

[Will]

I thought that was tears. That came out. Pop it back in. When you came down and I saw that, I felt like it was tears. I'm like, all right.

[Sherm]

Oh, you go.

[Will]

But something I learned as I was on the football team. We have my favorite one. One of my favorite because there's a couple out there. But my guy, he's like. He ended up. He's. He still. We're very close to this day. But James Dobson, he was our strength coach. It's something he always said that resonated with. With me. I'm sure a lot of guys on the team, but it's like no matter what is happening, you can always control two things in life. And it's your attitude and effort. And this was a mantra his at all times. I felt like it's something that really stuck with me. And after it's like the. The anchors and sales and having some of these philosophies, like getting back to the. Getting to the foundational thing that it's like you feel like you get pulled in all these different directions. And a lot of things affect you through the day. Whether you're running late to something, you have a bad day at work, you have a lot of whatever your stressors are in the world. The two things that you can always control is your attitude and effort. And how can we relate this to a family atmosphere or parenthood, fatherhood, whatever the case may be. And attitude. Attitude sets your emotional temperature of your home. So just like again, when you think about attitude and effort, your attitude, no matter what, you can always choose what kind of attitude you're going to have, Whether it's a pissy one, any negative attitude you ever had, I bet you can go back to that moment. If you could have anticipated that moment, you think to yourself, I could have handled this situation or had a better attitude walking through the door at home. Yeah. Your attitude sets your emotional temperature of your home. If you walk through the door frustrated, distracted, or short tempered, it is felt in the home without any words being said. Think back when we're all young kiddos or when we're all growing up, if mom or dad or somebody's got a bad attitude or even a buddy, if you feel that bad attitude without anything being said. A lot of the times it's like, oh, dad's coming home. He's kind of seems like he had a bad day at work. Yeah. Like, we all know that feeling as kids growing up. If you walk in grounded and present people, it feels safe. When you walk in, it's like Sherm's a great example. I feel like when Sherm always comes to the door, no matter what's going on with our boy, it always. You always just feel like you're in a fun environment. Because I feel Sherm always walks in. With the right attitude, you could have a lot of stuff going on. But I feel like your attitude. I always enjoy being around you because you're like, I've told you before, I always feel like I'm in a good mood when I'm around you. Yeah.

[Sherm]

Yeah. Appreciate that, by the way. Thank you.

[Will]

Yeah. Attitude isn't about pretending everything's great. It's about choosing how you respond when it's not great. So when work is heavy, attitude decides whether you bring that weight home or leave it at the door. When your kid spills their drink for the third time and you get a little frustrated, you're getting a little pissed off, Kiddo won't go to sleep. When you're trying to rock her to sleep for a nap and she's got her shoes on and you're starting to get really flustered, attitude decides if you correct them or connect with them. Um, when life tests your patience, attitude decides whether you react or you lead. And as a dad, your attitude becomes the model your kids copy before they ever listen to what you say. The second one being effort. So again, the two things you can always control at all times, especially if you were conscious of this, is your attitude and effort. Effort is intention in motion. It's not about how hard you work for your family. It's about how intentionally you show up with them. So effort as a dad looks like, you know, choosing to get down on the floor and play even when you're tired. I'm guilty of this. I'll be sitting there like, it's like I'm wanting to take a load off. Long day, whatever it is. Yeah. And I might feel mom in the kitchen or upstairs with Rue, and I got Scotty, and it looks like she's wanting to play a little bit. I just think to myself, I just need to roll off the couch and get on the ground and start doing the crawl with her. Whatever it is, Whatever gets her excited.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

Or choosing to play. Like, again, if I'm wanting to watch the game or if it's after dinner. And again, I'm just like, oh, I just want to, like, lay on the couch. And Rue hits me with, hey, you want to play chase? And I just think in my mind, ok, Huh? I need to get my ass up and I need to play chase. Unless the back. Unless the back's in a bad spot. Hey, sweetheart, Daddy's back's in a bad spot. But again, this. We're talking about effort, listening when your wife fully talks to you, not just hearing them. Guilty, Guilty, sweetheart, I know you're listening. Guilty as charged. The comment of, I don't know why I waste my breath sometimes because you never hear me because I'm the. What guy was that, sweetheart? Or I'm just not paying attention, and then I finally just hear the comment, I don't even know why I try talking to you sometimes. You know, I'm making up whatever excuse it is, sweetheart.

[Sherm]

You hear the juicy part of the story, you go, wait, wait, who's. Who was saying this?

[Will]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I am enemy number one with that.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

But fully listen when your wife talks, not just hearing, taking the time to explain instead of snapping in frustration. We've all been in those moments where something gets said and we're just. We want them to feel our frustration that we might not want to get into a conversation or might not want to get into a moment when it's like, sit there, be present. Not about being strong. It's about reconnecting, finding that connection, getting back in the pocket, showing that effort that you're not just wanting to push it off with frustration or whatever you might be projecting from whatever attitude you had. Making the space for. Making space for family moments. Even when the schedule is packed. You're talking about the routine stuff earlier. Like yesterday. We're sitting there, I'm like, okay, gotta Go do a stream, gotta do stuff. But if you find the space and you find the time, like making the effort to, yeah, let's get out of the house, let's go to the park, let's go have a family meal, like, let's go do something as a family. Or maybe it's you and your wife, whatever it is, like, when that space happens and you know that space is there, being, like, prioritizing it and doing it, even though you might feel this packed schedule or stress circulating around you, it's like, how can you pull yourself out of that? How can you check your attitude and how can you put forth effort? Effort doesn't mean perfection. It means presence. We've, we've, that's something we've loved on this episode since the beginning, that it's presence, not perfection in fatherhood. Because we up all the time, we're going to continue to mess up all the time. But it's how you show up in the next moment, how you show up in the next day. Because again, your kids won't remember a word you say. They'll, they'll, they will understand what you model to them before you say anything to them in the lesson and all of that. You can't control everything in your family's life, but you can control the spirit. You bring in, the consistency that you show up with. If you keep a strong attitude, you teach your kids how to handle it when life is unfair. If you keep steady effort, you teach them that love is built through showing up, not just talking about it. And in the end, your legacy as a dad won't be defined by what you achieved. It'll be defined by how you carried yourself and how you made your family feel.

[Sherm]

Yeah, dude.

[Will]

So there we go. That's, that's the lesson. That's the topic of the week.

[Sherm]

It's a really, really good one.

[Will]

The attitude and effort one, like a few in the world of that I've just like learned or gravitated towards or things that have always stuck with me in sports is attitude and effort. There's this four quadrant, like belief, potential, action, results thing that's always stuck with me. There is the nobody cares, work harder and nobody's coming to save you. Yep. And so the challenge that I've had with myself, especially in fatherhood or parenthood, and even for this brain wanting to come with like a lesson or topic or something like that, is I'm trying to pull from the footballisms that I've learned. It's like, all right, how do we gear this towards like parenthood. So that's kind of been my, it's been like my homework or challenge, like when trying to come with, with lessons or topics. Because I feel like all of it is carryover, all of its crossover. Right. Like everything they tell you, what you learn, like when you're growing up playing sports, sports are the best teacher for life. So it's like how do you bring all the, the sports methods? That is what I know.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

And how am I carrying it? You know, when I went from football to the branding and podcasting, the business side of everything, how do I bring that into whether it's the locker room on the bus, how do I bring that into my personality? How do I bring that into being a leader and manager for the squad?

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

How do I bring that into fatherhood? How do I bring that into being a husband? Because it all, everything tests you along the way.

[Sherm]

Any organized team and that could be like academic decathlon type stuff or like doing a school play. Anything where like a group of people are coming together for a common goal. You have to hold up your responsibilities. If you don't, it's going to cause others to misfire and misstep. And I, I couldn't agree more. It's all applicable to work performance, family performance, friend performance. Like how are you performing in your life?

[Will]

Yeah.

[Sherm]

Are you showing up for all these things?

[Will]

Especially when you're an ambitious, an ambitious person as well. Like you really for ambitious, career minded person and you want to do really good work. We, a lot of us will do anything pot. We try to figure out everything possible to be a really good teammate. If you're in a leadership role, be a really good leader. And a lot of the stuff in the back end that's kind of in the back seat can be the family stuff at times. And where I've like, you know, had a couple, like, aha. Or think, okay, how can I marry it to this? Like the family time and everything else is operating the same way at home. Like, am I being like the way I am around my team, the way I am at work, the way I am in my career, I am in my ambitions. Every philosophy, philosophy or thing that I kind of tie to that motivates me or keeps me disciplined. Am I doing those same things at home in the role that I have at home? If I'm in a leadership role, everything that I feel like I'm doing, whether it's for a team, for the shop, am I being the same guy? Am I being that dad at home? So Yeah, I was kind of going to where I was like, oh, I. That would be. Where's the bow tie on that one? Man, My brain kind of just stopped.

[Sherm]

But it's like to throw a bow tie, I guess on how I apply it to my life. We always joke about, like, Charo being like, yo, you have this dad podcast. You can put up a shelf. Like, I asked myself that a lot. There are a lot of times around the house where I'm like, dude, you got this podcast where you're like. Or you got people writing in the comments these life stories and about how great this podcast is, blah, blah. And you can't get up. I know you hear Scarlett crying and Jill's having to do that by herself.

[Will]

In those examples, the Willy 1 shelf where that came about and in the scarlet one that you're talking about too, it's like, if I just think of the two things that you can sit there and talk about controlling, because you can't control outcomes. You can't control a lot of things external that other people have control on. But if I think about attitude and effort, it's like such a poor piss. Such a piss poor attitude and effort in that moment. If I think of it in a team environment, it's like if I have these big goals of like hitting PRs in the weight room or doing X, Y and Z on the football field, that's essentially a teammate coming up. Hey, you have these goals and you're not living up to these goals right now. The brain's doing it again.

[Sherm]

And bow tie.

[Will]

Bow tie. There you go.

[Sherm]

That was a good point.

[Will]

Yeah. Hey, you're not living up to these goals right now. Bow tie.

[Sherm]

Bow tie. No, but you, you did paint a good picture. I don't know what kind of bookend or bookmark you're looking forward to. Sum it all up. I think you summed it up.

[Will]

It might just be the moment where I stop and then there's just a second or two of silence where it's like sometimes somebody else might come in and go off. Then I'm like, okay, finish it up. Yeah, get the.

[Derek]

The walk off music for like a award show. They're the wrap up music.

[Sherm]

No, no, no, no. You know, again, they're playing me off. They're playing me off.

[Derek]

I thought you wrapped it pretty well. I don't even know if you need to put a bow tie on it.

[Will]

Well, it's more of like the pocket of space comes in and maybe that's when just the John Cena music.

[Sherm]

Oh, My God.

[Derek]

I feel like if Will does all that, he's. Be great at home because you're a good boss. And I mean that. I'm not. You know, he signs my checks. But I really do mean that you're a badass boss and, like, the way that you operate and stuff, it's like the most fair, just genuine. Like, once you succeed, kind of, you know, feeling like working for Will and Taylor, too. So if you apply at the home, like, I feel like that's a hell of a way to approach it.

[Will]

Yeah.

[Sherm]

It's the intentionality, too, that you bring. I've said that before to you of, like, you come into this office with intention every single day and just seeing that. I've always been an employee that wants to, like, do a good job and press and press and press. But it really is fun when you come in and it's like, oh, the guy that's the shot caller is also kind of, you know, in the weeds mowing the yard, too. Like, the.

[Derek]

Never feels above.

[Sherm]

Yeah, never.

[Derek]

Like, you don't feel you're. I've never felt like I'm talked down to. On which is like, at the end of the day, like, you. You make the decisions. But it. I will say from an employee side, like, you want to. Like, you want to do good. That kind of stuff motivates you. Like, hey, this guy has your back at all times, wants you to do good, and you want to fight for that, too. Like, so it's a great.

[Sherm]

Agreed. You know, and with that intentionality, applying it to the home life, like, the kids are going to see that.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Will]

If I was meal. Thanks, boys. There's like. Honestly, it's like, that's rat poison. That's rat poison. You live for the cheers. You die by the booze.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Will]

But I feel. I feel like in this, with the platform that we have, too, like, getting to go through topics, lessons, call it advice, whatever you want to call it. I feel like this is a fun platform to kind of get thoughts that I've had kind of jotted down and journaled or on paper, because I. I genuinely feel like I've gotten to learn from so many great people that were stuff that they say, like, I'll be the kid when. Or if you're the person up there trying to give lessons or trying to do things and say you're in a leadership role and you're just wondering if people out there like taking it. You know what I mean? Or, hey, is this sticking? And I just know, like, I was A young, I was a young cat or a young athlete in every room that I was in. If, if there was a coach that I admire, like getting to listen to get taught from coach Bo Pelini, James Dobson, like my mom and dad, like, I've been around so many great people to where that stuff really resonates with me. And when I thought about being ambitious and successful, I think to myself, like when I listen to whether it was Tony Robbins videos or any of those videos on motivation or success or ambition, I was the guy who consumed a lot of that stuff when I was young and I would try and put stuff into practice. And when things like worked or paid off, it's like I'm trying to remember these things. Like when I get to the, the next level or the next thing, especially in football again, it's like being undrafted, you're very salty and slighted about it. But if you take a lot of these things that have been taught to you and you can just remove the noise and try to focus on the day to day stuff or the habits or the things that I'm going to still challenge myself to versus getting down on myself and think like, oh man, they don't think I'm good or that I belong in the league, maybe they're right. Or I get a little, the whole attitude and effort thing, or if I take a lot of these philosophies and it's like, okay, how can I pull myself out of my own emotion? Because you're just a mo ever. We're all emotional just constantly if a result doesn't go our way, right? And when those things started to work out or pay off and it's like, man, I need to remember this stuff somehow for whenever I become a starter or when I'm gonna be start when I'm, whenever I'm a starter, how do I become a pro bowler? It was never that. But then, okay, you don't get the result that you want. But how do you take the same things that have always helped me get there through listening to these people and being like, man, they're right about this, like, I need to. How do I box this in or hone it in? And no matter what happens after football, how do I carry the same approach over to X, Y and Z, to the things that you guys are talking about and stuff at home? It's, it's a constant. I feel like I'm constantly trying to learn and, and think about those things. So I've been very, I've been just fortunate being around a Lot of people that, you know, I guess hats off to me for being a sponge, but I was always. I've always been a very curious individual.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

And how is it like, man, I want to be where that person is. How do I. Even if my boys might be doing inside jokes on why we doing this dumb meeting or this dumb. You know, all those. You know, all those groups that have this seems uncool to want to listen and, you know, take something away from it.

[Sherm]

Yo, yo, Will cares about this. He's trying. What an idiot.

[Will]

Yeah, boy, you trying way too hard, man. Like, that ain't the cool thing to do. Yeah. But I was always like, kind of, I guess like that kid. Like, if. Again, if Bo Pelini was telling you something, I'm thinking, man, I want to be a head coach one day.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

In college football or the NFL. Like, I need to listen to everything all these coaches say to one day hopefully be where they are.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

So again, very trying to receive the compliment. Also very grateful. Been around a lot of great people.

[Sherm]

Yeah. Yes. And shout out. I do have one extra thought, but also shout out your boy James Dobson. He's the AD at Oklahoma for player performance.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Performance.

[Sherm]

That's kind of cool. Yeah.

[Will]

Dobson is the man, bro. Legitimately another father figure in my life. I bust his balls. He was at Vandy. He was like the head athletic guy. Like over all of athletic performance left to go take a 2 job on the strength training for Oklahoma because he's kind of. The thought was he'd be the successor at Oklahoma because he was a one. He's been the guy. He's been the head strength coach. He was my head strength coach at Nebraska. Very hard on, like, tough guy. Very hard on. He loves you hard. The guy's guy. But taught you a lot of good analogies and theories about life that kind of got you showing up even when times are very hard. Like being in a. Being in a world to where, yo, this is football.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

Like, it's gonna be hard. That's the whole point. Nobody feels good at this point in the season. He would always have great storytelling ways, but a constant was always attitude and effort. And he was the head guy at Vandy after Nebraska to when I was on the. When I was on Tennessee. I got to train over at Vandy and still be in his life around him. He's actually the one of the first guys where I'm like sitting, you know, I'd work out and then I'd go bus balls. We'd be in the office hanging out and everything else, talking about the old days and what's going on at Vandy. And he was one of the first guys like, hey, I'm starting a podcast like, it's a bus. So he was there when I'd have to print out documents to get signed, use his printer. But Dobson is like, shout out. James Dobson. He's a, He's a legend.

[Sherm]

Shout out. And to put a bow on your lesson. And you said something that I really loved about the saltiness of being a walk on or not a walk on. A undrafted free agent. I love what you said of like, pulling yourself out of the emotion of like, wanting to prove people wrong, like, pulling yourself out of, like, whatever kind of angst or anger or sadness that maybe that causes. Because that was huge for, for me of like, like going the way that I did career wise and kind of a lot of people being like, why the heck is he going into video production? Why? And me kind of getting this, like, jaded spirit of, oh, I'm gonna show them, I'm gonna prove them wrong. I'm gonna do that. And once I pulled myself out of that and was just able to enjoy, fully gratiate, ingratiate into like video production and chase after it and work hard and put forth the effort, have a good attitude, but enjoy what I was doing as well, that's when I started, like, really finding success.

[Will]

Yeah. Because you're right, it is tough, man. Like, when I didn't get invited to the combine, that was a hard moment. Like, again, because then you, like, you're searching your name on the Internet and you see rankings and it's like, man, I'm just feeding into this thing that's honestly not good for me.

[Sherm]

Yeah.

[Will]

And no matter what, the sun is going to rise tomorrow and you got to put your feet on the ground and it's like, what attitude and effort are you going to have about the day? And are you going to be glued to your vision and are you going to be glued to the disciplines and the routine and what you're eating and all these things you're going to do, or are you just going to kind of feel sorry for yourself? Kind of shy away? Come back, man. Maybe they are right.

[Sherm]

But yeah, bro, because I'll do that. Even with parenting, sometimes I'll be like, like, God, I did so bad that last morning, like, whatever I didn't do, or like, yeah, I was being lazy or blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, in my head, I was being such a bad dad. And it's like, well, here's an opportunity where I won't be a bad dad where I'll, you know, I'll change my attitude and was it called the memory? Have a short memory.

[Will]

Goldfish memory.

[Sherm]

Goldfish memory. I think that's important as well with the attitude and effort is like you will mess up, you will not be perfect. But it's just being able to learn from that loss. Hey, let's move forward and let's have a good attitude to attack whatever this next thing is.

[Will]

And no. Yeah, that's a great point. And no one too. Like, let's just say in this hypothetical you have a laundry list of, of a bad resume.

[Sherm]

Oh. As I do.

[Will]

And knowing. But yeah, yeah, yeah. But let's say like something to where you don't feel, you don't feel like a whole lot of self worth because you know it in the back your mind like, man, I've been a X. Yeah. For a good amount of time. The, the power you. You truly have to. Tomorrow there's going to be another opportunity and it can change. You can change it like that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Will]

Yeah. If you're truly sick and tired of being sick and tired. Yeah. That to me is power, bro. That, that's. Yeah.

[Sherm]

It is as easy as when I was like going through a really tough period in my life. That therapist that I would see in Fort Worth, the man dude, he felt more like a dad than like a therapist. He may I. There was a point in my life, I don't know if I've shared this with you where I didn't get out of bed for like a, a stretch of like two weeks. I didn't get out of bed and my mom had to like come over to the house I was living at and like basically was like, you need to go therapy, blah blah, blah. And the therapist, very first thing he said is he was like, when you wake up, shower and put a nice outfit on and what else can't. Can't you do? If you go clean yourself up and put some nice clothes on, why not get out of the house? Why not go have a good day? Why not go do like you. You get that small victory, whatever that is and you can change it, dude. And it's like, I'm a loser. I've been laying in bed for two weeks straight and you know, I, I don't know what I want to do with my life and blah blah, blah. And well, hey, I showered and I put clothes on today, so I guess I'm not gonna get back in bed with all these clothes on. I guess I'm gonna have to go, you know, do this. So. I like that mentality.

[Will]

Yeah. Make your bed.

[Sherm]

Make your bed.

[Will]

Small wins, bro.

[Sherm]

Jill's sitting there going, tell them. Tell them, Will.

[Will]

Tell them, Will. Try to be on my ass. Hey, I thought we said the rule is, last one to get out of the bed makes the best. We don't. You know, you're right.

[Sherm]

Hey, you right, babe.

[Will]

Rue up here making the bed. We're up there making our own bed, bro.

[Sherm]

Making us look bad.

[Will]

Making us look bad, dad. Come upstairs, sweetheart. I gotta fish back. Come upstairs. All right, close your eyes. I'm walking in. Okay, look, and I open. She got a perfectly made bed, stuffed animals in place, massive smile on her face. I'm like, good job. All right, let's go downstairs. You better eat your chicken sausage. But I'll look at it, you know, you put my hand out for a high five and like, yo, I love your effort. Love your effort, kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sherm]

But.

[Will]

All right, Got a roll.

[Sherm]

Gotta roll.

[Will]

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[Derek]

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[Will]

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[Sherm]

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