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Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Welcome back to another episode of Inside the bus. I'm Jack McPherson. Joined here with me is Cooper Comstock and JP Hovey. We also have two special guests for us current Michigan Wolverine football players. Go ahead and introduce yourself boys.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I'M Zach Marshall. I'm a tight end from San Diego. Been on the Michigan team for three years now. Freshman year was the natty year. So, yeah. Excited to be here.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
National champion. How do you. Before we really get into it, do you think that was a fraudulent national championship?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I was about to say. I was about to say a lot of haters in this building, by the way.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The craziest part is like, think about it. We had to go on the road to Penn State without Harbaugh. You want to talk about overcoming adversity,
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
but did you all Biff Poggio at that time, or was he that.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
It was. It was Sharon.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, was it shout out to shout out Rome?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
It was. It was Sharon was.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
And we'll get.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
We'll get to him too, so don't worry. I' kidding. Also, before we get too far into this legendary 47 jerseys, you guys know we always try and shout out some honorable athletes who rep the number. The episodes correlated with 47 was a tough one.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
47 was tough. We had to do some research.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I had to do some research. We landed on John Lynch, Tampa bay buccaneer at 47.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Chris Cooley, Redskins legend.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
And that might have been really it.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Bear Bach Meyer. I wouldn't call him a legend, but we're kind of bottom. Bottom of the barrel, first of 47s. Our fellow Clay.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Clay Matthew.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yes. Clay Matthews. In college. In College was 47 at Southern Cal. So that. But we gotta let the other one introduce.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yes. Go ahead, Trey.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
My name is Trey Pierce. I play D tackle, University of Michigan from Chicago, Illinois. Happy to be here.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Heck, yeah. Where'd you say you were from, Zach?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
San Diego. Oh, San Diego.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I love me and JP Love San Diego. I mean, I don't think we're in some, like, quiet minority group saying, we love San Diego.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I like it, too.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
It's one of the best places ever. But we've both recently been there not too long ago. Great food, great atmosphere. But I think what I want to ask right off the bat, because we got an offensive defensive guy. What's the superior side of the line?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Has to be offense. I mean, we know what's going on. Like, I will say their reaction has to be better than ours, but the fact that, like, we. We get to just go out there, play full speed and get after it, like, offense has to be better.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
All right, Trey, if you have any grit, any love for contact, any violence in your heart, if you. If you are basically, if you're a dog, you play defense. That's just A fact. I think everybody knows that. I think everybody kind of. You watch the game, you're like, oh, yeah. You kind of have to be a nut job to do that. You got to be like, gotta have some shit to you to do that one. So I mean, offense, they. They make plays, they may score touchdowns, but if you got. You got any. Any violence in you, any. Any need for contact, you need to play defense, you gotta. I don't even understand, like, how. This is a question.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Do you have any win. You can always win on offense.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Championships.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I was gonna follow up with that, but you didn't really win a single
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
game by scoring more points than the other team.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
There's definitely been games out there where there's only been defensive points scored. I obviously couldn't name it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Probably Iowa.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, maybe that's Iowa football.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Iowa. Didn't they score more points?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That's like Iowa Nebraska.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Every year they were like, yeah, I
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
think like 50 of their points were scored by the defense like 2 years ago. Remember when that OC was like the. The kid of the head coach? Yeah.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
One time they. One time they beat a FCS team like 10 to 7 and they had like two field goals and like two safeties.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Crazy.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
They didn't score a touchdown.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
They had 10 points, and that's 10 points.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That's 10 points you can score anyway.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
No, you got to love it. You got to love just the. The team camaraderie completely mixed with like, fuck you, motherfucker. We're better than you in practice. We're going to motherfuck you. I like that stuff. Tell me a little bit about Kyle Whittingham. You guys have spent some time with him now. I've heard some rumors that back in the day and still now he could throw up some weight and he was a physical guy. Just give me, like, first impression you guys have had with coach Whittingham.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
First impressions. He's a intense guy, focus guy, and like, he's more like. He's more jacked than you think. Like, you know, like. Like not to be. No pause. He's pretty. He's. He's. He's a rocked up gut. Pause. He's. He's solid guy. Like, he's pretty solid guy.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. I mean, if you look back in the day, he. Does anyone remember what number he wear wore?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Whittingham.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Can somebody. Can you peep that? Can somebody check if he was 47? 47.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
That's his story.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That might be historic because he. I think he might have been 47. And wore a cowboy like a full neck roll. I mean that's great.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
He looks like he's defense, right?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
He's a great dude. Linebacker.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I mean, what's it feel like playing under a coach who's defensive minded as an offensive guy, is there like, is there any kind of like where he seems like he favors the defense a little more or is it more like the OC is like you guys are
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
more back Run it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's really funny. 44. Okay. Dang.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Still a good number though.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's a great number. Four fours shout out Max Bredesen. Cap. That's cap. But you were saying defensive minded. I mean you get to the end of the practice with an offensive minded coach and if the defense has a really good day and the offense has a decent day, dude, he is mfing you like going at you. Meanwhile, a defensive minded coach is like, wow, that was a really competitive game. Like a really competitive day. Like I feel like offensive minded coaches really care about like the offense scoring points and say you like only score once or twice. They will get on you crazy. Like worst practice we've ever had. Meanwhile, like a defensive coach is like, yeah, great, great stops by everyone. A little back and forth. Meanwhile, yeah, like, like I said, the offense, the defense does terrible. It's like, man, that was a great practice, right? Like everything was firing on all cylinders and then the defensive coordinator pulls him aside. It's like, oh man, that sucked.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I will say this though, like as a defensive guy, when the offense is having a bad practice, practice does feel like it sucks. Like it feels like we're in this. We're in the same side of the field the whole practice. It's like, oh, like it. I would say that the impact feels worse when the offense is worse. When the defense is worse, it's like, oh, we're firing, right?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, dude, our offense is cooking, man. We're going to put up points, the defense is going to do their job, but we're going to put up points like that.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
So. But then the offense is going not going good. It's like, that's like, yeah, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look like it's muddy football.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
So like, I mean, what's the message after the spring game when there's no points? Yeah, when it's a very low scoring
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
game, you know, I mean, hey, yellow team, Maze team one. Macey. That's all I gotta say.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I know crazy stat about spring games. I'm over four.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Damn.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Four years.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Four spring games. Zero for four. Blue team, blue team, maze team, blue team. Hopefully that's. That's a plan. But, like, three.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
For three spring games, never lost.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Undefeated. We asked if they were both committed or were y' all both recruited by John? JP Wants to know if y' all were both recruited by Jim Harbaugh and what was it like and what was it like for his in home visit for y'? All?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
You got a good home visit.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It was cool. It was pretty chill compared to some of those other stories. The only thing I remember about it Harbaugh is like, so he came in, we're eating birria tacos, and I guess they never had beeria tacos, but he was also, like. He had his dip. So I'm eating my birria taco, and I'm looking over his dip, like, bottle, and I just, like. It was, like, Loki ruining it for me because I was thinking about it was the same color as the birria, but.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, like, the consummate.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, but it was great. I committed on my. I committed on my home visit, so that was fun. Like, vibes were good. Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
How was he. How was he with the family and stuff?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
He's great with the family.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I feel like he feel like he's
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
a good family guy.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
He's just himself a bottle of dip spit. I feel like he's checking every other dude.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I've been through that. I have an uncle who does that, and it would ruin my appetite. You just like, I'm like 10 years old. We're on family vacation. Just sets out there. I'm like, oh, what is that?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
You sure?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. It's like, no. My. My. Mine was funny. We were watching Bucks Saints either on a Thursday or Monday. I'm trying to remember if it was a Thursday or Monday, but it was, like, an off. It was a weird day. We family brought in some paella from, like, a really nice Spanish restaurant. Like, fantastic. Him, Grant Newsome, and Matt Weiss were the three guys that came. Yeah. To my. My house visit. I don't know if you guys know a lot about that whole situation about Weiss.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, we all got to get into it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
We don't. But I'm just like, yeah, but those three show up after we finish dinner. Coach Harbaugh goes instantly to the couch. Is there. There's a game on tonight, right? You guys got a recliner? Oh, you got a recliner. Feet up.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Is he Shoes on in the house?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Shoes on. Shoes on in the house. Feet up. Diet coke, sweet tea. And then I think he had a dip, like a spit. A spit too. So we had three, three things right here. He's like, I'm a good football coach, but you know what I'm really good at watching ball. I love it. I've always been a good football coach, man. This is where I belong right here. And he's full, reclined, watches the entire game, doesn't leave my house.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
The impression is killing me.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Is that recliner typically in that house, does it belong to one particular person?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like my mom, where he, where he sat?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
See, because like, I feel like if I be in the house and they said like, my pops share something, I'm like, oh, man, I don't. This might.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
See. See, luckily my dad sat right next to him. I, I'm a fan. There's. So there's the, there were two recliners and then there's like a, like a three person seat over here. And I just, I, I sprawl across that thing, but so I'm sprawled across that thing. They're sitting right here. Other coaches are out there, you know, chatting with my mom and trying to like, you know, sell, sell me on Michigan. Sure, I'm already committed at this point, but they still gonna make sure, you know. But dude, he was at my house, I want to say, until like 11pm
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Once, to the end of the game, he had to watch the end of the game.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
And then he was like, ah, you know, I'll just, I'll just go down to Coronado. I got a house down there. I got a house. So he's. Yeah, I guess he's got a place over there, like in San Diego.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
He used to coach at San Diego.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, yeah, that's when he, that's when he bought his house. And he was like, yeah, you know what? I just, I'll just go over to my house, you guys. Hey, you guys go to the airport, I'll go to my house.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
This impression is like spot on.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Is it?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
My buddy, his name's Austin Winfrey. He was on the strength staff in 2020-2022, I believe. I don't know if he would have been there with y', all, but there for the festival, I cannot remember.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That's when I showed up.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, it might have been right at the end, but he, he would always tell me hilarious, horrible stories about him showing up, you know, 5am and he's working out in his khakis and he said, and I don't know if he was just trying to pull one on me, but I believe him when he says it, that after workout one day he got in the cold tubs, full khakis, full polo on, and then gets out and then, like, proceeds to go through his day. And I'm like, there's. They're like, there's no way.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
The feeling of wet pants on is one thing. Like, I know. I know horrible can be a psycho, I'm sure, like a good psycho, but I don't think anyone's psychotic enough to do that, but maybe he is that guy. I don't know if y' all have any of those. How long was harbor with you guys until he was gone? One year.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
For me, it was like 18 months. So the. The season and spring, but for you, it was just the season?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, I got there in the summer. He was gone by, like. So after that, he left. So like, probably six, seven months of January.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, something like that.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Something like that. Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
No, that's cool. I mean, to. To get to be under such a legendary. It's got to be something you'll talk about forever. I mean, just, like, the funny impressions and him putting the feet up on the couch and spitting dip in your home.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I want to know. And we don't have to get into it if it's whatever, but, like, when he. I don't know the extent of, like, y' all knew him looking at the NFL, like, when he took that job, like, what was Yalls thought press, like, process about, like, your future at Michigan.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Were you able to go to the meeting? I had class. I had a one o' clock class. So you were. You were at the meeting. So we all get, like, told, hey, show up at, like, what was it, 1:30 or something like that, Right?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, let me get the Twitter notifications. Like, walking up to the meeting. We're getting that Twitter for notifications.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, yeah. Harbaugh took the Chargers job. My bad. We got the, like, my bad. We got the notification, like, right before the meeting, like, oh, how about take the Chargers job? And we're walking into the meeting, so we're like, oh, I guess we know what the meeting's about. Like, and then we go in there, he's like, yeah, took the Chargers job. He told us he was excited to coach Herbert.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That's such a funny thing. That's such a funny thing to say in the media.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I met him. He's like, six. Six chalk man. I like that guy. What are we doing, dude? You're leaving your whole team and you're out here, man. I'm really excited to coach Justin Herbert.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
He really does. You're good, dude. That's so funny. You know, the vibes are high after winning a Natty. It's just like Jim's still riding it.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Are we still going? Like, are we?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, no, we're so. He's taking. He's just taking a call. We're still going.
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Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I understand the decision. I mean, that's what. I really never would fault a coach for going to the NFL. Like, come on. Like, that's what we're. That's what we're trying to do.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Especially when he got, like, so close to a Super bowl when he was there. Like, he was good in the NFL before he was at Michigan.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Also, just the quality of life in the NFL versus college as. As a coach, like, being able to actually have time.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Oh, probably even more so.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, nowadays, it's more money for less work.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's more money for less work. They don't have to do the recruiting. Like, think about that. The coaches aren't selling you on the recruiting.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
He doesn't have to deal with nil anymore either. Well, he got out of.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, that's called a collective bargaining agreement. So, you know, everyone gets paid exactly what they are. Are told.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, but the GM hands. But NFL is way better as a coach. Like, you can go to the NFL. Like, come on. It's like just player. If you can go to the NFL, you go to the NFL.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
So I mean, yeah, I feel like you can't fault him for that. How long? I forget the timeline. So, like, I guess y' all technically had, like, I know you hired within, but you had a, like a coaching search for a little bit. Like, did they, like, update y' all about, like, because, like, y' all are kind of, like, suspended and, like, kind of in flux. So, like, what Did y' all know about, like your next head coach after that?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Which one? After Jim or after.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
After Jim? After Jim.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I mean, we kind of. We. We were pretty clued in. They were like, we're going to make sure that we check everything, right? The athletic director came in, he was like, we're going to try to make sure we check all, you know, what is it? Cross all your T's, dot all your I's, like, make sure that everything was ready. But we knew it was going to coach more.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
So, yeah, they. I think at that point they were like really focused on like keeping the roster together. We had like a lot of guys from the Natty year who had another year left. Like, like all that whole 22 class got drafted. First, second, third round. So, I mean, they were really just trying to keep a lot of guys there. So they were like. I mean, they made the pick through surround. So, yeah, they're just trying to keep us out all there. They come to school.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I feel like if you're like a Mason Graham or like Kenneth Grant or Colson, like, if you're like going in the first round and you just want a Natty, like, why would you leave? Like, did you have one more year? Like, go play. Like, why would you leave?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Money.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Money.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
But, like, but like, I don't know how much they were making. Actually, I was gonna say they probably.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
They had to retain people, you know what I mean?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
People have to be retained 100.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
And the craziest part is like, that was. I mean, I guess after that was like the first year of like, people really getting good contracts or even kind of starting the contract thing. I mean, if you could have been a freshman in2024, that would have been the best time, like, to be a freshman. I mean, those guys are still riding the coattails of just getting paid. Crazy.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah. Welcome to college football. Do you guys. If, if. If y' all couldn't hear? J.P. he said he's asking what their welcome to college football moment is.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I have a good one. Do you have a good one?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I don't have a good one, but you can. You can go first.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Mine. Mine's in a practice.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Which Trey was giving the moment.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. No, he doesn't. Tre showed up on the first day and just started little, like, little boying everyone. So, you know, he was. He was 315 pounds, just yoked and running straight through all of our senior guards faces. No, I'm just kidding. But for me, it was in a. We had this drill called Beat Ohio and this linebacker that plays at Georgia State, his name's Jaden Hood. You remember Jay Hood? Hood. And he would take the soul out of people. Like, pause, pause. But he would just hit you so hard. There's no pause. Yeah, no pause. Jaden Hood hits so incredibly hard and always leads with the crown of his helmet. Like, just that guy. Half the time, 90 of the time isn't gonna make the play, but he's gonna hurt the person that he. He hits. It's great. It's fantastic. And we. I had a. I basically had, like, insert inside zone on him. And I was 17 years old, 208 pounds, on my third day. Cali boy, man bun and everything, dude.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I remember the man, but.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, we don't have to bring that back, but put up a reference pick, bro. I insert through that hole, and I'm standing just like this as Jaden Hood just runs flat through my face.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
My helmet ends up tripping up our running back. Like, it's the worst play ever. Like, I'm not giving you all the film for that. I think I tried to delete it from the Exos, you know, database. It's somewhere someone has that film, and they're probably gonna bring it up in, like, my NFL, you know? They have everything. They have everything, dude.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. They know everything. I'll say my welcome to college for a moment was like. Honestly, I didn't get, like, crazy. I probably, like, against Iowa, Big Ten, I was, like, on punt return, and I was, like, trying to break the shield up. I'm running, so I'm running as hard as I can. It's a shield. Some, like, savvy, like, guy on the shield, he just, like, gets me right here under my helmet, hits me in my, like, my jaw. He, like, fractured my jaw. Oh, yeah. I didn't. I couldn't eat normally for, like, it was, like, a little. It wasn't too bad. I don't have. I didn't need surgery or anything.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Seems like one of the worst injuries,
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
eating from a tube that.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That Kanye.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Wire jaw.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Just using a blender. Everything all right. On the opposite of that question, what was the moment where you were like, all right, I'm here to stay. Like, I'm. I'm making plays, like, where you were like, you're screaming up at the Big house. Like, this is my city. Like, y' all got a moment like that. It doesn't have to be at the big house, but you know what I'm saying, Yelling back to Michigan, you know,
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
it's bad because we lost this game. And it. I didn't do. I didn't. I had a good game. I didn't play that much my sophomore year, you know, they. That sophomore year, you know, we had KG and Mason Graham, like, so I wasn't playing like a bunch. But we played Oregon at the Big House. They put me in for like four plays and I made, like, two tackles. I had like a tackle for loss and that. I was like, all right. Yeah, I could play this game. Like they had the starter still in. So I was like, all right. I could play it here and going
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
off the sideline too. Everyone's smacking your helmet. It's gotta be a good feeling.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
And I had, like, messed up earlier in the game. I had, like, messed up bad. Like, if you watch the game, you know, like, I. I had a penalty that was pretty bad. And then, like, so I went back in there and I made those plays. I was like, all right, all right. I feel a little bit better.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
But I kind of have two. One on, like, special teams where I was like, okay, I can actually, like, participate in this, and then one in, like, actual game. The obvious one is against Washington, right? Like, first, like, real start, first play of the game. I'm in second play. You know what I mean? Like, the whole entire game, I was. I was. I was the one. And then going for 5, 72 and a TUD, like, winning that game because it was kind of an important game. Like, a lot. Exactly. A lot of people were like, you lose, we lose that game. It's like, it's. The rails are off there. Like, wasn't gonna. I wasn't gonna let that happen. Especially with that being like, my first real start. So that was very important. Like, a real moment of like, yeah, I can. That was when I went from being like, I could be a contributor to being the guy versus first play of the 20. Would that be 25 or 24? 25 season play, Fresno State.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The opening kick return, I just sprint. I'm. I was one of the shield guys last year. Like, full wedge, shield, run through it, like, back up to the 10 yard line and just sprint at some crazy linebacker at the five position. And I got a pancake on the opening kickoff. And I was like, all right, I can do this. That was. That was kind of my moment was Washington at Washington. Washington was home this year. Last year it was away and we lost that game. I don't want to talk about it.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Shout out. Shout out. Jack Tuttle.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Dude, it wasn't that loud.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It Was beautiful, though.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It was gorgeous.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The drive up, we're driving on like that bridge and we see like the boats in the water. I'm like, wow, this place is. I could move to Seattle. Like that was. It's beautiful.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That stadium does seem sick. That actually leads. I wanted to ask, besides the big house, this might be a two parter. Well, the first one is like favorite stadium you played at. That's not Michigan. And then the other one is, besides Michigan State and Ohio State, who do you all hate the most in the Big Ten conference? Rival type, huh?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Stadium wise? Like Washington's fire. Like Washington. That's the best stadium I've seen. I think because I haven't been to like, I've been to Happy Valley, that the stadium is like, it's allowed, but it's so ugly. Like, it's so ugly.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
A bunch of concrete and then.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, but like Washington, that stadium is beautiful, man. Like Seattle's a beautiful city.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Like, in general, if the second part's going to get you all in trouble, bulletin board material, you don't have to answer it.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Rivalry outside of them.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Well, I'll answer the stadium because I'll give you more time to think about who.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Who.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
We cannot ruffle feathers, Worth, because I already went onto the podcast and said Michigan State sucks. So. I know, I mean, like, I was a little fired up. I, I went a little aggressive. I was, I was just happy to be here, guys.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
But don't, don't, don't backtrack.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I'm not backtracking.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Apologize for the Michigan State rival.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
But like, yeah, I was, I was fired up. Now as far as stadium, Washington's the most pretty. But like as far as coolest vibe just kind of being there, it might be like Nebraska or Illinois.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Nebraska.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
You guys are beating them by three touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, all the juices out of that place.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
They almost got it.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
They were there.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
They were there for the good.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
They were in it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The balloons were cool.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Balloons is one of the coolest things in college football.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like that whole best. I've also heard that Iowa was really cool. Did you. You went to Iowa, right? Oh, no, we've never been.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
We never. I haven't. Our four years, we haven't had. We haven't been at Iowa yet. No, we go to Oregon.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
We go to Oregon this year. We go to Austin.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That'll be cool.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Austin will be fun. And then as far as like people that we just like. I guess I'd have to put it at like someone that I thought was going to offer me and didn't. So like it's more like personal.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Would be either SC or ucla. Like both of them, they're supposed to like offer me and then like neither of them offered me in their backyard in my back the home state. And I was like super excited, super pumped to talk to both of them.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
And then who would you rather gone to besides UCLA or usc of those two. Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It would have really came down to a lot of factors like how much playtime I would get, how much money they're giving you. Yeah. A little bread never hurts, huh?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
No, that's fair. I like that because I feel like you're not giving too much bullets and bullet like that everybody has that.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Everybody has that. That's like a good one to.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
For sure you want to represent your. Your state, your. I guess it's not my city but it was my parents city. You know what I mean? Like la LA is important to me. That's where my family's from.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
But now I'm out here in Ann Arbor and I have zero regrets.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Zero.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Outside of the football culture in Ann Arbor. What. What's your favorite aspect of that town?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The restaurants.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's a bad boy answer. But I. I've been. Hey, me and my like me and my like some of the other D lineman we've been going to some restaurants like exploring Ann Arbor like that side
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
because you got money now, huh?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. No. No. Yeah man. We went from 300amonth, man. Explore them. Explore like you know like dude, our
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
first year here we made 300amonth.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. In the dorms.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
300amonth. That was. That was basically how like college football was before. Before everything like the. The thing went up a little bit. But yeah. 300amonth to now these crazy nil contracts. Like what the heck.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
JP asked if there's any fun first purchases.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
So yeah, my. I bought a. Bought a car. I was driving the Honda CR V. My parents Honda CRV. Now I bought a BMW X5M competition.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. Hey.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
No the CRVs, bro. Oh my God. It feels like a downgrade. Especially getting gas like CRV Phillip. $30 mileage.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I guess it's. I guess mine would probably be the car too. Like I. I bought a Maserati.
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Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Dang.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
And that's not your most expensive purchase. I don't know.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I do. I own the house, but that's with my family. So fair. My family and I kind of went halfsies on a house. They. They stay up here during the the fall with me. So. Get home cooked meals.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Heck yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
They get to come to every single one of my games. The Maserati was for Maserati.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Marv mentioned.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Well, hey, who. Who's got the. On Yalls team? Who's got the most expensive car? Is it Bryce Underwood? He's got that Lambo, doesn't he?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Or he.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
They were taking photos. Yeah, him and Marsh were taking photos.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That was. That was during the trap. That was them traveling. So I don't know.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Most expensive car, I think who has.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, let's just go Biff. Biff drives the rules.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
He's not on the team.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
But like Biff. Biff used to pull up to the.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Biff doesn't seem like.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Biff seems to pull up his role.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I thought he was gonna be like a beat up truck.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Nah, he drives a colon in Biff
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
is a flexer, bro. Like shout out. Biff is a bro. I don't know if I'm about to say this, but he like, you know the spirit of ecstasy on the top. He would keep it unlocked. So the spirit of ecstasy never went down.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. Never went down.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That is so funny.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's so. It was a beautiful car. The player with the most expensive car. I don't know, man. There's guys with multiple cars though.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
They got some. Some nice house.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
I can't imagine the parking lots these days at really prominent like college football programs. The parking lot's just got to be millions of dollars.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's probably just like souped up trucks and hellcats. That's about all. Like those are the two things. You got your. Your big old lineman driving those souped up trucks. Crazy Silverados ZL like with the. With the big old Corvette motors in them. And then you got. Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Very scat packs.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The hell you know what?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Super Durangos, man.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
We got so many 40 linemen had
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
durangos
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
that say it says Michigan. More like a rich again.
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Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
My guess is cern. That's a good guess.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, okay. Do I get one guess?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, get a guess.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Okay. I don't know.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I know exactly who it is. I'm gonna let y' all guess. No, no, you're gonna let. You guys.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It ain't Jared, so then it's got to be Jack.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Jack's right there. He could be talking about other things.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
That's fair.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That's fair.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
My guess, honestly, that would have been my guess, too.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Really? I feel like this got Derek written all over it.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Honestly.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It was Derek.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, that's a. That's a Derek side quest.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
That is. All right. So you did say kind of backtracking UCLA or USC would have been an awesome school if you got offer. What is one school in the nation that if you. If you're not giving any shade in Michigan that you'd love to go play for today?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Wait, also, I also still want to know who Trey doesn't like besides Michigan State and Ohio State.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I don't want to let him get away with that.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I was gonna. I was thinking, like. Like, who gave me, like, the most trouble, Who I felt like were, like, the grittiest, like, like, push after the play type guys. And this might be underrated. And they're underrated O line, like Northwestern. They're an underrated.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
A lot of cheap shot in people. Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. They were physical, and then they would go through the whistle and, like, we were in Wrigley Field. That. Oh, yeah, Wrigley Field. We played at Wrigley Field. That was beautiful. I'm a Chicago guy.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That's pretty cool to be. To be able to play at Wrigley.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, that was pretty.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That's not like a bad bowl game.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I like.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
25 people in the stands, too. So, like, everything they did felt personal. I was like. They weren't even. They weren't big shit talkers, but, like, they were physical and they, like, you could feel them. Like, after the game, I was like, ah, these guys were.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Dude, talking about that Northwestern game. There's a terrible clip of me landing on my head. Do you remember that? Dude, I got flipped. If you pulled it up, sports reposted it. Yes. It was bad. And it was like, man, I'm gonna sit my dumb ass down. That's the cat. Like the. The sound behind it. And I'm like, really? Come on, man. I like, I. I, like, got like a. Like a hip pointer and my whole back, like, spazzed up it was bad.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, I do remember this.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Oh, Sports posted. Reposted that or like posted it on their. On their main page.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That one looked crazy. I'm.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
You did I. But now you were saying who. Who would he go play for?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah. Right now, today, as of May. What is it 6th. Who if you could leave Michigan and we're not saying you want to leave Michigan, but who would you go play for today in 2026 in college football world? No nil money on the.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, can I. Can I just say.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
You can say a coach.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. It would be my old tight ends coach Steve Kasula. Wherever he ends up. Like, I would love to play with him if it's NFL college. Like an amazing. He's an amazing person. Whether I can coach side by side with him. Like, he's one of those people. Like, I would. I fall on the sword for. Like, love that guy. He's made me who I am today.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Love it.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Where's he at?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, Texas right now.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
It's not a bad place for 10
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
or in IO money.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, that sounds.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Or NFL future helm. That's a pretty good school.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I was just factored in like nil. Like city. Like they're good at football right now. Like I got. I got a. One of my boys down there. Like I would say Miami. Like Miami seems kind of fun, right?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
You just got to visit Miami. And if I was lucky to even play college football at Yalls level, Miami would be an awesome place to go. The workouts in the summer, you gotta earn your spot in Miami, but man, that is one program they got building back up to a historic level. Mario Crystal too is just an absolute dog feel like him.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
And no non.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Maybe have a.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Some similarity crossovers in the Venn diagram. But yeah, Miami's a good answer and so is Texas.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
So what.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
What NFL team do y' all feel
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
like has for you Defense most fun defense to be a part of and then for you most fun offense to be a part of. Do you think the audience heard that?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Do you have an answer? Okay, go first.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I'm D lineman right now, bro. The te crazy. They have fun over there. Like. Yeah. Will Anderson, man, they just got. They got some guys down there. They got.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Is Hunter there?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, that's a great combo interior guys are awesome.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, they just drafted Kaden McDonald from Ohio State. They're gonna be. Yeah, I mean, bro, they're gonna be good. They're. It seemed fun to like that defense seems fun to play in. In general there.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
So.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, I mean you guys are about to have him on, on bus in here pretty soon. But the Sean McVeigh offense, the way they use their tight ends, like the way they use hybrid receiver, tight ends, like all of it, right? Like, I could go in line, I could line up, go crack, crack block, do all of it. So being an offense similar to that, I'm not saying Rams, you have to drive, but I would love it. I love it.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
He just wants two free wins. He just wants two free wins against the Cardinals.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, two free wins against the Cards. I want to beat the Niners every single, every single year.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That too. Yeah.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That'd be great. Dude. George Kittle is still my favorite favorite player, period. Like, favorite player in the NFL. It's George Kittle, sick friend of our show.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
He's been on his body, George, which I assume George Kittle listens every week, but he still owes us a game worn jersey that he said. And he actually went to the extent to he DM me on Twitter and was like, hey, send me the address for this jersey. And I sent it to him.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Still haven't gotten.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
He's a busy guy. You know, he.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
And he lost in transit. Lost in transit.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
It could have been. And that's what I'm hoping because we consider George a close friend of ours. We ran into him at the Super Bowl. He's always been great to us, a kind man. So we're, we're. We're not at the point where it's gun to the head, but we are loading the gun. So it is okay. Outside of football, if you guys weren't playing, what, what would life be like for y'? All? Like, what do you want to do if, if you guys weren't like trending for the NFL?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
You'd also add like, what are you doing in school?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, that too.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. For me.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Student first.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The, the. I was always going to play like college sports of some sort, whether it was going to be rugby or football. So I guess I would probably be doing rugby at like an IV or something like that. But as far as just academically, if football was taken away from me now, I would still go into like football operations stuff on, on the business side of it, whether it's agency, whether that's starting and recruiting and working my way up to being either like a GM or something of that nature would be like kind of my dream, dream situation. I want to help, like put together like a union for NCAA players. Like, things like that. That's, that's what I'm really, really into, like building that, like Business community around myself.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, major in communications right now, so I think maybe something to do with that, like. But man, that's a, that's a great question. Hopefully. I mean, I think I'd still be playing a sport. I'd probably be playing baseball, but who knows?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
You're going to the league, bro.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Don't even worry about it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I mean, you're going to the league.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That's the goal.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
We want to ask internship questions. What y' all actually hear when we intern, when we ask questions from the last interns. Remember when they all came? Yeah, when we had the, the thing that was for the, the like summer interns.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, those were the non sport athletes.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I don't think, I don't think the Michigan interns last year came on here. I don't even think we had started.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
No, we, I don't think we had. I think we started like a month after.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Right?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, Nico and Bryce.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Bryce left and then we started the show Grinders.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, I can't remember really all those questions we asked the guys who most of them now currently work here were pretty much like gotcha journalism questions.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I mean we could ask like what, like what's. I mean, it's only Wednesday.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, I mean I was recording. Let me give you guys a little compliment, like not to dig on Nico
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Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
what's the other dude's name? Not to take on those guys. And they did an awesome job. We had a great time, you guys being like very prominent, you know, Michigan football players. It's cool to see you guys jumping to learn things and seeing y' all at desks the last couple days and like really trying to evolve, involve yourselves in the work process because like, at the end of the day, y' all necessarily wouldn't have to. The same reason we just asked that question. You're like, man, I'm going to the league. You didn't say that. We said that, you know, and. And we believe that. But it's cool to see you guys jump in the mix and, like, really be eager to learn. And I know everyone here appreciates that. So, again, kudos to y'.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
All.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
And it's already been dope, and we're only halfway through the week, but I feel like, what's yalls first thoughts on this work? Because it's been an interesting week. No matter what we have, it's been a weird week in general for what's going on.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
And you can also add, like, favorite part so far. Even though, like, we said it's Wednesday, we got half the week to go.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The fact that we just called a team meeting and sent Matt Malone to the other side of the freaking country, dude, we just sent him to go get a car. Now he's currently eating a 72 ounce steak.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Yeah, I think he's live.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
He's live right now, dude, he's live eating a 72 ounce.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I think they were. They were trying to get WI Fi at the restaurant to go live.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
They're not live yet.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
The fact that I got to actually make, like, the edit for it and, like, the fact that you guys actually posted that, right? A guy who's like, yeah, I've done a little bit of photo editing because I've done, like, tick tock and crap like that or like, make my own posters for. For camps and stuff. But, like, you guys actually, y'. All. Y' all got a lot more followers than me, let's just put it that way. And y' all just posted that. That was great. Like, I'm. I'm pumped. Like, the fact that you guys give us kind of a little creative liberty to just play around. I know you got to make clips that got posted.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, shout out Jared, he pretty much walked me through everything. I never used Premiere before. So, like, I think my favorite part of this is just, like, being around the guys. Like, you have an amazing, like, culture here.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, I'm downstairs and, like, it's all jokes. It doesn't feel like. I feel like, dang. Like, it doesn't feel like work. Like, it doesn't feel like I'm at school, like, trying to grind out, like, projects. It feels like, pretty cool. It's like, oh, team meeting. We're about to go play foursquare. Like, that's. That's. That's, like. That's super chill. Like, I think that's my favorite. Like, My favorite, like, thing here, I guess, is saying, like, it doesn't have to. I don't have to go, like, work in an office if I'm not playing football and just, like, hate my life. Like. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much. That's the thing I got from it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Another thing I want to add, like, kind of. Kind of on that jokes. Jokes thing. You guys making a show up in suits or maybe that was just, like, show up in suits.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
No, that's what happened last year.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Year we did. Yeah, the intern showed up in suits last year. We'll just show y'. All.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Big dude. It's so. And then, like, Derek walking up here being like. Or he didn't walk up here, but, like, I'm over there grinding out something. He's like, hey, Coop, you got him doing something? Nah, man, we. We just finished. All right, come on, you. You coming with me. Dude, I thought. I thought I was. I thought I was gonna put to work. Thought you were finally gonna start being put to work. Yeah, I'll just play Madden. Like, it was freaking awesome. I'm sorry. Ncaa. I don't know if we. Do y' all have rights to Madden? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the fact is. And then I, you know, handed him the game because I was. I could have. I could have rinsed him. I was. I was up. I was up 7. Just. Just.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
All right.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
They were doing a. They were doing a bus and bowl. Natty in there.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Busting bowl national championship.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Who's the better Madden player or NCAA
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
player between y' all two?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Can we probably. Zach, can we. Can we get on?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I don't have the game. I don't even have.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
How you not have the game?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I give. I give the code to my brother, and then I don't. I. I have a PS5, but it's, like, in my closet right now.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
He working your brother?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I'm bad. I was gonna say, is he your brother in the game, too? Well, now he will be. Yeah, he will be.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Y.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Is he really. Is he younger than you?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, he's two years younger than me.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
But, I mean, like, are you hard on him? Are you, like, trying to, like, coach him up in the right ways? Are you kind of like him in public and then in private, like, hey, man, we gotta tighten these things up.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Nah, nah, that's not our relationship. I just tell him the truth. Like, I mean, I don't Lie to him. I'll just be like. He'll be like, yeah. Am I like, am I slow right now? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, he's not. There's nothing. Like, he'll tell me the truth too. Like, if he's like, bro, like, you look ridiculous right now. I was like, I'm like, okay, I gotta trust him, you know, for sure. Like, we've always had that relationship where we could, like, tell each other the truth and like. Yeah. So he. Right now, it's just like a big adjustment because he's coming from Western Illinois. He transferred in. Like, he's just. He's a grinder, though. He's. He's. His work ethic is crazy.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
So what was it like when you found out your brother's coming to play ball with you?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I was, I was. That was. My life's complete, you know, it was like, my parents, they don't have to go, like, choose between going to his Western Illinois games.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
It's like, no disrespect to Western Illinois. It's like, you know, the game at the big house might be a little more important.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
You know, it's like, we don't. We love our sons now.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
It's two birds, one stone now, right?
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Which is awesome.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. My parents, they don't even see. I don't think they see. Even saw it like that, but they probably did.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
They're probably loving, great parents where. If I had kids, you know, hey, you better be D1. You better be a starter. You better be doing it.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
If your brother's D1 and you're not, I'm going to your brother. That's a crazy take.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Crazy.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah, that's. That's not unheard of, though.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
No, not at all.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I mean, but yeah, it's been great having them there. Like, shout out, shout out. Chris, we don't. He. Bro. They put the freshmen in. Or like in the transfers, they put them in a nice ass apartments. Yeah. But it's expensive, so I'm not living out there. Like, I'm not living on campus.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
But we've been going 42 minutes.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Pretty easy. Yeah. Pretty on the dot. We do need to get tapped into this live stream for Matt. Do we have any other questions before we kind of start wrapping things up?
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I don't know.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I'm not the question guy normally.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I got a question for you guys.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
All right.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Oh, let's go.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Like, if you weren't working for busing, what would you be doing right now?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Probably playing the league. You Know,
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I feel like.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Jp, do you want a mic? Because I feel like you. Here, I'll walk this one.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Well, I mean, JP, I think JP's got the most followers of all of us, so.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
JP on Twitter does.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
I think if I was completely removed from busing and like doing work with brands and everything, I'd probably be a teacher.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I love working with kids or like,
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
maybe a, like a camp direct, like a summer camp director. And like, yeah, I just, I get so much joy out of working with kids, trying to help, you know, like mold them into good, good people going forward and. Or I would love to.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
I do my own podcast on the side, which I would love for it to, to blow up, but. Yeah, that's.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That'd probably be my answer.
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Okay.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
JP would be an all star teacher. And if you've known JP for five minutes, you know, immediately he would fit that mold so quickly.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
But what subject? That's the real question. I know I would probably like a, like a college course on like entrepreneurship. Oh, so like an entrepreneurship class? Yeah, that's. That's actually fire.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
That's actually fire, I think. You want to go? You want me to go?
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
You know what yours is?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah. I would say, like, probably if I wasn't at bus and I would be doing graphic design, my goal, like when I started graphic design was to be like a pro baseball football team or like a high level, like college, like basketball, football, like in their creative team, whatever, like that. But I would say if I wasn't doing graphics, like, period, I'd probably still be like in the family business doing like mortgage loans back in Texas. And I do love Texas. It was hard to leave Texas, so I would definitely still be back home, like dfw because, like, sometimes I get fomo. I know my, my family, like my brother and dad probably get FOMO for stuff that I'm doing, but sometimes they're like, like they're going golfing today. I'm like, like, I'm not, I'm not back there. Can't hang with them. So I'll probably be back home doing the, Doing the family stuff.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
That's real. I like a, A realistic option. My dad, I did like door to door sales and a couple different sales jobs. Like, realistically, probably like a sales job. I know I'd be good at it, make good money. I wouldn't necessarily love it, but an unrealistic one that I could. I would. My soul would be rich, but my pockets would be broke. Would be like ocean photography. My brother lives out in Hawaii. And there was a moment before I started working here where I wanted to go and move out there and like, basically film all kinds of, like, action sports stuff on water and mainly surfing stuff because I love swimming and I'm not a good surfer, but I am a good swimmer. So being able to just like, be on the water and capture that and just kind of probably build like, a following around that, because there's not, like, you don't just, like, apply to be, like, an ocean photographer. It's not like jobs jumping out. But I guess, yeah, that'd be my like, two kind of what ifs, you know, a realistic one, and then somewhere where I'm out the beach, just hanging out, putting on too much sunscreen. So, yeah, I think that's where we're at.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
That's awesome.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Or the league, so.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Or the league.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Just. Yeah, go to the league.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
My league dreams ended early.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Me too.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Early.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Early.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
He. He said. JP said he chose not to.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Chose not to.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Yeah. It was a choice, you know, Dude.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Well, you guys actually killed this interview.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Great answers. And I know that some Michigan Die Hards are going to flood into our mentions, which will be awesome for us and for y'. All. Kind of get more of a, you know, just some. Some good conversation flow out there, and you guys are great at what you're doing. We appreciate the work y' all are putting in. It's been dope having y'.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
All.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Thank you. We appreciate you guys just kind of leading us having. Having. Having a good time out here playing sports. Square getting.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
We got to play right after this. We haven't played today yet.
Zach Marshall (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
Dude. Yalls both.
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah. So far, like, 100 horrible things happen in football. Hopefully they don't
Trey Pierce (Michigan Wolverine Football Player)
appreciate you. Thank. Thanks. Thanks for this, like, it's a crazy opportunity. Appreciate you guys.
Jack McPherson (Podcast Host)
Dude, we're excited to come up to Michigan again the fall, have some actual friends there and, you know, just to see you guys dominate. So best of luck in the future. Stoked for this week, Coop, you want to close this out?
Cooper Comstock (Podcast Co-host)
Thank you guys so much for watching episode 47, the Clay Matthews USC episode, the Chris Cooley episode. I forgot the other one. One. But thank Lynch. John Lynch, Fort Downer's legend. Anyways, y', all, y' all tune in next week to episode 48. Thank you.
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Release Date: May 8, 2026
Guests: Zach Marshall (Michigan Football Tight End), Trey Pierce (Michigan Defensive Tackle)
Hosts: Jack McPherson, Cooper Comstock, JP Hovey
This episode of "Inside The Bus" features an in-depth and candid conversation with Michigan Wolverine football standouts Zach Marshall and Trey Pierce. The dialogue covers their recruiting stories (especially encounters with Jim Harbaugh), “welcome to college football” moments, the transition into Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) money, best and worst stadiums, college rivals, and what life might look like after football.
The vibe is light-hearted and full of playful trash talk, but listeners will also hear authentic insights about the changing landscape of college football, life in Ann Arbor, and how these athletes think about their futures on and off the field.
(02:31–04:12)
"The craziest part is like, think about it. We had to go on the road to Penn State without Harbaugh. You want to talk about overcoming adversity." — Zach Marshall (03:08)
(04:30–05:33)
"If you have any grit, any love for contact, any violence in your heart... you play defense. That's just A fact." — Trey Pierce (04:58)
(06:16–09:11)
"A defensive minded coach is like, wow, that was a really competitive game... Offensive minded coaches really care about the offense scoring points." — Zach Marshall (07:48–08:44)
(10:05–13:36)
"He’s like, I’m a good football coach, but you know what I’m really good at? Watching ball." — Zach Marshall (12:00)
(14:17–15:58, 19:48–21:20)
(31:02–32:10)
(22:24–27:51)
"First real start, first play of the game... and then going for 5, 72 and a TUD, like, winning that game... That’s when I went from being a contributor to being the guy." — Zach Marshall (26:17)
(27:58–29:44)
(30:45–31:33)
(38:07–42:29)
(43:27–44:42)
(47:37–51:08)
Zach on NIL changes:
"Our first year here we made $300 a month. Now these crazy NIL contracts. Like what the heck." (31:11)
Trey on Harbaugh’s authenticity:
"He's great with the family... He's just himself, a bottle of dip spit." (10:42; 10:45)
On Northwestern's O-Line:
"They weren’t big shit talkers, but, like, they were physical and you could feel them. After the game, I was like, ah, these guys were." — Trey (38:59)
On Ann Arbor living:
"Zero regrets." — Zach (30:41)
This episode provides an authentic, often hilarious, and surprisingly insightful glimpse behind the scenes of a top college football program in 2026. From the business of NIL to coaching transitions and dreams beyond football, Trey Pierce and Zach Marshall deliver quick wit, real perspective, and plenty of camaraderie. Listeners get a mix of laughs, nostalgia, and practical wisdom for anyone curious about college football’s evolving realities.