On this episode of the California Now Podcast, host Josh Meyers experiences the ultimate celebration of pop culture with actor-director-podcaster Kevin Smith and comic book creator, writer, and podcast host Marc Bernardin.

The two longtime Comic-Con veterans share memories from their earliest trips to San Diego Comic-Con and reflect on how the event has transformed from a niche gathering of comic-book fans into a global entertainment phenomenon. They also revisit some of the convention’s most unforgettable moments, including Smith’s experience inside the Star Wars: The Force Awakens and Avengers Hall H presentations, and Bernardin’s memory of the surprise screening of the first trailer for 300. “It went over so well they played it three times in the room,” Bernardin recalls.

Smith and Bernardin discuss the thrill of hunting for collectibles, original artwork, and rare comic books on the convention floor, as well as the creativity and spectacle of cosplay. Bernardin even shares a story about a certain celebrity roaming the convention undercover in costume.

For fans without a badge, the pair share tips on how to enjoy the Comic-Con atmosphere outside of the convention halls, at events ranging from elaborate pop-ups to immersive brand activations and fan experiences that take over downtown San Diego each year. They also swap stories about some of the most impressive off-site events they’ve encountered throughout their years at Comic-Con.

Beyond Comic-Con, Smith and Bernardin highlight some of their favorite places to visit in San Diego, along with beloved California destinations that appeal to travelers and pop-culture enthusiasts alike. From coastal escapes to can’t-miss nerd-culture landmarks, they share the California experiences that keep them coming back.